Same would be now
#Aviation
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scrapping important artifacts wasn't uncommon
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You would wanna make it disappear
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in the 50's or 60's the Brits scrapped an important preserved warship from the age of sail
like bruh
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Only decades later people realise how much historical value this stuff had
Same with nazi memorabilia
Guns, badges, knives etc
Most defaced or destroyed
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what i don't like is people cleaning the deeps
i know the oil in sunken ships can be dangerous
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Funnily enough the most memorabilia was preserved by Americans
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but they're literal tombs of hundreds of men
The Chinese in particular don't hesitate to raise warship wrecks from the deep to recycle the metals
an entire fleet was clandestinely removed like that
so nowadays coordinates of wrecks are not publicly shared anymore
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Funnily enough the most memorabilia was preserved by Americans
war trophies to them
more of a sign of victory
for most europeans german stuff probably was more synonymous with shame
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Having both a German service sword and pistol was a great deal
Because it meant you either killed a high ranking officer
Or one surrendered to you
Which was also a sign of respect
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every allied soldier and their mothers wanted a luger
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Oh man this is some incredible pictures you've captured. Fantastic frankly
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@mental lantern @fallow drift @vestal hull btw you three know war and plane stuff, how come the Swastika on Luftwaffe planes was on a 45° angle to the normal Luftwaffe
Oh nvm I'm stupid
The normal swastika is at that angle too
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That's the way the nazi's used it
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I always thought it was a square on the infantry soldiers lol
But I guess they all used the diamond shape
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The Swastika is an old symbol that has nothing to do with the nazi's
But they used it
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Wasn't it originally a Jewish symbol or something
I think I recall hearing that somewhere
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finland used it as their roundel up until 1944
and started using it way before the nazis even existed
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Wasn't it originally a Jewish symbol or something
no
it originates from the east i think
buddhism etc
but it's a symbol used everywhere during ancien times
it was also the symbol of an US Army Unit before WW2 lol
oh and the Finnish Air Force Academy still uses it
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finland used it as their roundel up until 1944
Bet that must have led to a tiny bit of friendly fire from the allied forces 💀
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Bet that must have led to a tiny bit of friendly fire from the allied forces 💀
Finland fought alongside Germany
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Oh ew
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because the USSR attacked Finland in the years before WW2
so they had a common ennemy
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oh and the Finnish Air Force Academy still uses it
Surprised Germany hasn't yelled at them to change it lol, or Israel (unless they had)
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finland used it as their roundel up until 1944
?
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Ah
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Mark Felton
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Most wanted Ace pilot
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USN F-14's except they actually look good
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THis plane is definitely very old, much older than any of us realize.
I must say, beyond just being a cool send off to the old bird, it is really cool to see that they used it as an opporunity to show off the KF-21s too.
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The MiG-21's and F-4's have almost completely disappeared within just a few years
The MiG will probably soldier on in some countries for longer
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It will definitely yeah.
It was in service with alot of lesser developed countries who can't afford to retire their only air force.
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hehe, it'll be a while, but probably not far off.
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What appears to be an ex-Slovak MiG-29UB in Ukrainian colours
stripes are the giveaway
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Huh, well they finally got them running it seems
Pretyy cool seeing a mixture of their colors and designs
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Hehe, it's cool to see a F35 with some color thanks to.the colored roundels
I do.hate the low vis roundels
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same
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can't wait to see them flying overhead in a few years
idk if i'll miss the F-16's
They're cool but they never really interested me
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I think I know what this is referencing.
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I like that you can still see the camouflage waves under the red
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I guess they didn't take the previous paint off before applying this new one.
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First Royal Netherlands Air Force F-16 Fighting Falcon (F-16B J-259) in flight over the Netherlands with two F-104's and NF-5E's, June 7th 1979
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It's hard not to love them. SUch pretty planes and always in such cool liveries. Such photos.
Still can't get over thhat Belgium one hehe.
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Still can't get over thhat Belgium one hehe.
ww2 camo on a modern soviet jet works quite well
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thanks
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Manufacturer: Mikoyan
Model: MiG-29
Designation: Fulcrum
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These are some great photos.
This "land anywhere" mod is really useful for photos too.
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Yeah
It's very useful
Doesn't really allow you to taxi though
You have to land where you want to take the shot
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Doesn't really allow you to taxi though
You can role for a bit I think.
Just feather the throttle
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that's not the problem
it's turning
you can't really turn while on the ground
you can make tiny adjustments but not really making a turn
no matter the speed
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you can't really turn while on the ground
Really? Oh yeah you're right you cant. You gotta use the rudders and they don't turn you at all almost.
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Yeah i got it on my ps3
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Oh nice lol
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Yeah i got it on my ps3
You should post screenshots here
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Ah bruh lol
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I got a superslim I can't jailbreak
I got just a standard slim
Removed the top cover
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I try to buy games when I can
But sometimes hacking is the only way
I got Gran Turismo HD Concept like that
It was a free PSN game but it hasn't been available to download in probably over a decade
Or games like CS:GO which were PSN only and never sold in Europe
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Eyyy , rhe iranian blue
So cool looking
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I think it's my fave F-14 scheme
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Glad you like it
I like it best as well
Just looks so cool
I wonder if any skin mods with IRIAF roundels and details have been made for this skin too
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this skin in particular i don't think so
there is a classic desert one with roundels but it's a bit low quality
found an ac6 skin tho
i need that
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Thay looks nice
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there is a classic desert one with roundels but it's a bit low quality
A shame rhem
There may be some
But I'd particularly like one for the blue one
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i want the mig-35 sniper skin with romanian markings =(
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Oh they've not already made a mod for that? Dman that sucks
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I like that alot
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Also I noticed that in the brefing for SP Mission 1, the Alicorn data displayed says it carries MiG-29K's
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Yeah it does state it.
Which does mean that the MiG-29K does eixst in Strangereal.
it's never been playable however.
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Ex-Iranian F-14A on an USN Aircraft Carrier
Same plane in the sky i think
build number 160378
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I don't think that's an Ex-Iranian F-14
i think that's just one of the aggressor squadron planes.
even if it were ex-iranian, how would it be ex-Iranian?
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It's the last Iranian tomcat built
Number 80
that was never shipped to iran due to the revolution
the us held it and apparently it kept the iranian flag on the vertical stabilizers for a while
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the us held it and apparently it kept the iranian flag on the vertical stabilize...
Understood then, I am guessing it's still kept?
Or was it crushed like most F-14As in the hopes that Black market wouldn't get their parts across to Iran.
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That's probably true.
it's not in any of the displays as far as I know.
Best case scenario, it was gutted and put for display and repainted.
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it was repainted into a regular usn grey scheme at some point
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Then it may be one of the F-14s in display.
Wikipedia has their air frame numbers so it would be posible to identify where it's at.
Guess it ain't on display then.
Chances are, it is crushed and or kept in a some random hanger to collect dust.
That particular F-14A would have been a 95-GR, the export model, with fewer features than the standard F-14As
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yeah 160378 isn't listed
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Well hot damn.
It's been completely mothballed
hasn't even got paint anymore.
But at least it exists.
This is the plane we deserved to get, if US weren't bastards.
Business is business.
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well if i were selling something to you and you took some of my family hostage i wouldn't give it to you anymore either
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True, though American lives don't exactly matter in the face of a revolution.
But alas, this is real life.
Iran before and after that even were entirely different countries.
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That's a good picture
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Ukrainian F35 when
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I wonder if they'll be any good.
The air war's slowed down massively as of late.
Not even Russia uses planes that often anymore.
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Damn, Japan got some cra,y liveries @fallow drift @mental lantern
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Yeah they bored af
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Damn, Japan got some cra,y liveries <@211041101421740033> <@383153734873645056>
They've certainly gotten alot of care in.
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Great photos man.
I'll share these with a friend on another server.
He's into these too.
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that's a pretty sick photo.
Love it when Russian planes and NATO planes fly together.
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same
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It is pretty cool frankly
That they fixed it up, just so it's enough to physically be able to run on the ground
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Looks fake
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Probably is
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@mental lantern hiii
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<@383153734873645056> hiii
Gello and sorry for being late
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there was an attempt
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That's pretty sick actually, good job
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thanks
following a tutorial for new minecraft is difficult in 2010 minecraft lol
not enough blocks
and i messed up a bit, it's a bit too short
tutorial in question
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following a tutorial for new minecraft is difficult in 2010 minecraft lol
Yeah I definitely feel you on that
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problem is in 2010 there were so little blocks
no stairs even
so making realistic jets is quite hard
i do want to try some more though
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Yeah i ddefinitely get what you mean, you'll be severely limited
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since it's not actually minecraft but a recreation there is a mode that adds extra blocks
but none that are really useful for my purpose
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huh, I didn't know this isn't minecraft
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it's classicube
basically a copy of minecraft 0.30 from 2010
except it's written in C instead of Java
so you can get like 120fps on any potato
and it runs on anything
computers, phones, retro consoles (Wii, Gamecube,...), old pc's (even on stuff like Windows 95 lol)
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so you can get like 120fps on any potato
it's what Minecraft devs should have done then
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computers, phones, retro consoles (Wii, Gamecube,...), old pc's (even on stuff l...
That's amazing
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well there is Bedrock minecraft which is the main version
and runs on C+ or something like that
Java, the original version, is a secondary version now
but it's the og and what i'm used to
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Oooooh! They actually done it?!
I totally expected the original F-14 to be the only IRIAF F-14 rep we'd get
So wait, does this mean this is under US' tree or does Iran have its own mini tree now?
Ah American then
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no it's in USA tree
as an event vehicle
has typical iriaf weapons though
including r-27's and fucker 90's
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It's really cool to see
R-27s never actually got to be used on the F-14
Iranians couldn't link the missiles to the American radars anyhow
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including r-27's and fucker 90's
Fakoor 90 lol
The game has definitely overestimated the F-14A that we got
Because even the Fakoor 90 isn't that good
Bug hey ill take it as an Iranian I am happy
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Fakoor 90 lol
ik
but dude in the video called them fucker 90's
and i find it hilarious
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Yeah it was pretyy funny to hear him say that
What can be done, Americans always mispronouncing things xd
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you can also get a pfp of a f-14 ace
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Really? Jalil Zandi?
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https://warthunder.com/en/news/9005-event-get-the-iranian-f-14a-iriaf-in-the-persian-tomcat-event-en
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Yaaaay
That's indeed Jalil Zandi
Top scoring F-14 pilot
And one of the 11 Iranian F-14 aces
This is a sick event
Now folks can recreate the Iranian F-4s, F-5s, Mirage F1's and MiG-29s too
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Yup, my favourite as well
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and if you play more you can unlock the f-14am one
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You also get the desert camo one which is great to aee
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which i guess doesn't suit it since it's an old A not an AM but why not
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It's the digital camo one however
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which i guess doesn't suit it since it's an old A not an AM but why not
AM?
Oh right I forgot
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modernized one
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Thankfully we get the option
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How many AM's are there?
Not many
Last I heard there were 2 or 3
It's bene a whole so maybe more have been modernized
It's hard to do it when you have no resources and brain power to modrrnize a barely functional airframe
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i'm guessing they don't get a lot of flight hours
in order to preserve them as much as possible
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You would be correct
Only 2 or 3 air bases have F-14s in all of Iran
Which has like 30 air bases or so
The MiG-29 the current main focus of the IRIAF
As it can carry long range missiles, does have support from Russian technicians and is easier to work on
But In reality , we have no air force
The Su-35s that should have arrived by last year haven't arrived yet either
We are completely screwed
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The Su-35s that should have arrived by last year haven't arrived yet either
i guess russia kinda needs them
considering how many aircraft they're losing
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The aircraft they're supposed to send aren't even their own to be used
They are the cancelled order that Egypt was gonna get and didn't
So not only are we not getting newly made export planes, we're getting 2nd hand export planes that the bastards at Russia won't send anyway
Planes that they have no use of realistically
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@mental lantern you ever seen a tomcat?
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No, sadly I havent
I have seen F-5s and MiG-29s flying overhead
Even once saw a MiG-29 parked on a runway when I was traveling
Tomcats aren't stationed in any of the air bases where I live near of.
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Sadge
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Very sad indeed
I wish to be able to see one up close and or in flight one day
would be a dream come true
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Feels weird to watch a video on an english server where I am watching a video no one else understands
It is indeed rather impressive the fact that Tomcats do still take it up to the skies
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Yesss
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Still can't get over the fact the USAF used the gta san andreas theme song for one pass
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lmfao
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One of my favourites from yesterday
For a smartphone pic i'm quite happy
Also doesn't do the B-17 justice
It's so huge
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Its must have been
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@mental lantern @fallow drift you should get an app called LiveATC on your phones
You can listen to ATC for some countries
As long as it's legally allowed to be streamed
Sadly UK airports can't coz of some stupid outdated law
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Nah I don't see the purpose
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Nah I don't see the purpose
Cool for plane spotting
You get to know where plane is and hear what they're saying
Obviously won't work on military frequencies tho
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Given I spot planes quite regularly
But you don't know what they're chatting about 
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But you don't know what they're chatting about <:theoTrol:765876191714082827>
I usually don't need to know that
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Man this is wicked. Lovely image. F-14 and F-5 together.
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I think it's an F-20 what-if
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I think it's an F-20 what-if
Oh yeah you're right, it does have a singel engine
It'd be more fitting if it were a Saqeuh
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That's absolutely beautiful
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Cats and bugs together
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And tomcats eat hornets
Hehe, yup. For sure
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Tomcat, Hornets and MiG-21's
It's so unusual to see the Fishbeds in that formation
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USN was visiting Croatia
which are/were the last MiG-21 operators in Europe
They're transitionning to Rafale's, idk if they have entirely or not
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They're transitionning to Rafale's, idk if they have entirely or not
They have gotten a few yeah. This is interesting
Wicked photos
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especially Tomcats
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Take my breath away
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Certainly looks weird seeing these planes in one formation
Not to mention how the MiG-29 always manages to having smoke trails in every single picture it is in
Its engines truly were terrible
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Peak soviet engineering
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Hehe
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That's wicker
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Stealthy and fast
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yeah is somebody attacking the pyramids or something
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Not a plane but I just want to say thank you BMW
I still don't forgive you for all the ugly cars you make nowadays
looks so good
especially for a wrap
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It is still incredible to me that this is real
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I still don't forgive you for all the ugly cars you make nowadays
Yeah..
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This'll be fun for you
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These look very cool
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beautiful
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Wow, those aruras
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sexy
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Finished the campaign with 6hp. Stressful af
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Wow, that sky box color is really something
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god damn that's so beautiful
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Yeah especially with the cordium warheads flying overhead
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weary spruce
plen
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I like their liveries, hope the travel was good
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that's beautiful
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anechoic chamber testing
anechoic chambers are rooms designed to stop reflections of either sound or electromagnetic waves and to isolate the aircraft from outside radio signals. the RF absorbers on the walls, floor, and ceiling inside the chamber prevent stray internal RF reflections created for the testing from bouncing back at the aircraft.
the chamber in fort worth is used to characterize and confirm radio frequency interactions and cooperative operation of aircraft avionics.
and the little info tab
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These artificial enviroments that they create for their testings, are always fascinating.
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the amount of testing chambers they have is surreal
the technology behind those places
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Billions of dollars spent on weapons of war, to kill people more humanely.
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As you said, the technology and budget is surreal.
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you can do quite a lot of fun things when you have a near unlimited budget
have worked on project inside a lab that does the same stuff, luckily not when they had it set on freezer mode
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you can do quite a lot of fun things when you have a near unlimited budget
And an unending and tempting goal of total world domination.
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have worked on project inside a lab that does the same stuff, luckily not when t...
Little in the way of things you haven't done.
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doing the same things they do on a smaller scale
and not for weapons
and the lab we used went to like -80
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Impressive feat in your life.
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its cool being inside but the work we had to do there was not special at all
just one of the thousands of companies that use those labs
also a little fun fact about the US marine corps
they used to have "military issued skateboards", not sure if they still have them
i like scrolling through my planes folder and then just seeing this
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Retarded.
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No more
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Now launch!
That's a cool thing to say
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X-36, funky design it was
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It was relatively unstable
But it was useable
Some of the aspects and data about it was said to be used for possble future 6th gen aircraft
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Thanks
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Ahhh, that's understandable
I understand, I have uni myself too
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And playing non-aviation related games
Same, I haven't played AC7 in a long time
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Yesterday was the first time for me since November i think
I literally just did some free flights to take some screenshots lol
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Yeah
Thing is there isn't much else left for me to do in that game
I played the campaign 3 times
I don't feel the need to play it again
I don't like the multiplayer
Imo AC7's best feature is the plane list
And quality of 3d models
So it's a good screenshot simulator
But I'd rather play PW over it tbh
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So it's a good screenshot simulator
That's true, there isn't that much to do after you do eveyrting in the game
Which is fine, the game is fun enough to play several times to get everything
Aside frokm that, yeah though
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I really hope AC8 is better
AC7 is a good game but it is a downgrade compared to previous games
in most aspects
its so simplistic
I hope AC8 will be more like AC6
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I do hope so as wel
AC8 has alot to live up to
AC7's shortcomings can be forgiven considering the shoddy state of development, and the fact that it is clearly a labor of love that almost didn't even get released
But considering how much it has sold now, how much money has been made, how much well known the brand is now
AC8 has alot riding on it
I do hope for it to be a best of all combination of the best features from every previous game
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An-124 over my house
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That's really cool
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Must be noisy
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Not really
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Can't tell cuz my phone wouldn't focus but that's a qatari C-17A
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RTat's really cool
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Big boy triple 7
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These are really cool shots. Every angle covered.
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I saw the mod come out, didn't think it'd become ths popilar. It's just a black MiG-35 to me
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Iran will probably be the last country to operate the Phantom
speaking of Phantoms I should see two Greek F-4E's at an airshow later this year
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Iran will probably be the last country to operate the Phantom
Would not surprise me whatsoever
Our Su-35s aren't coming
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speaking of Phantoms I should see two Greek F-4E's at an airshow later this year
Lucky you, they're cool jets.
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Our Su-35s aren't coming
You're probably better off buying Chinese jets if they're willing to export them
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You're probably better off buying Chinese jets if they're willing to export them
The J-10 is for export, their Flankers likely not as that'd get them in trouble.
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I doubt they give a shit about what russia thinks
IIRC they copied a Su-33 prototype they bought from Ukraine after the fall of the USSR and I doubt they asked for permission
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I doubt they give a shit about what russia thinks
well, they are still somewhat allies.
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IIRC they copied a Su-33 prototype they bought from Ukraine after the fall of th...
That's the thing
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and I wouldn't be surprised if the newest Chinese flankers were superior to the russian ones
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Russia caught wind of that
And told them "Okay, you managed to copy an aircraft you weren't supposed to, but do not under any circumstances export it to anyone. Only use them yourself."
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and I wouldn't be surprised if the newest Chinese flankers were superior to the ...
Don't be surprised indeed, casue they are. They are better, far better.
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well, they are still somewhat allies.
I feel like right now Russia is to China what Italy was to Germany during WW2, as in the dude that wants to fight everyone but can't win shit without the help of his buddy
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Also, just read some news which sheds some light on what happened to our Su-35s
They ended up going to Algeria instead...
I honestly cannot believe this, what a sick joke
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I guess they paid extra cash
and Algeria is closer to Europe so having an ally there is more important to them
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It's just... unbelievable
We had been waiting on these Su-35s for the better part of the last half decade
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At least it gives you more time to enjoy those Tomcats and Phantoms I guess
Also would the deal with Iran include avionics?
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At least it gives you more time to enjoy those Tomcats and Phantoms I guess
They barely function anymore
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I know some export Su-30's were just airframe+engines with no avionics
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We have no air force
I had heard the plan was for Iran to make facilities to put these airframes together domestically
Kind of like how China used to with the J-10A
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Indeed, but guess it ain't happening anymore
We get no planes, under constant threat from Europe and US to recieve more sanctions or have them wage war agasint us
Life's great, everyone hates us like we've killed everyone's mothers or something
It's like we ain't even human
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I don't think anyone seriously wants to attack Iran
not because Iran is scary but because there is no point to it
We busy enough with the US and Russia threatening us
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Even if it's not an actual military operations
We'll get it even worse and get more sanctions
Which is worse than being killed via a war
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And as for why people dislike Iran in the West, it's mostly due to the political situation in Iran and for historical reasons (aka the revolution)
here in Belgium especially Iran is badly seen because of the academic personnel that is/was imprisoned in Iran
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The only real reason is the revolution, which cut US' hand off of iran permenantly
So they pretend to give a shit about "Women's right" or shit
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here in Belgium especially Iran is badly seen because of the academic personnel ...
Yeah I don't blame them for that mindset, being held hostage for over a year
But at this rate, that's so far back in the past, I would rather just die off and live whatever horrid future awaits me
Because clearly, nothing good is ever gonna happen
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Diplomatic protection is a thing, if you don't like a person being on your territory just tell them to leave, dont imprison them in horrible conditions
so it's basically a case of stale-mate
the world has decided Iran is bad
and Iran itself hasn't really tried to improve its image
so nothing is changing
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and Iran itself hasn't really tried to improve its image
Not like it is allowed to anyway
Only way for iran to be "improving' its image, is to just lie down and die
Nobody talks about anything good Iran ever does anyway
So why even bother
US has made it very clear that the point of the talks with Iran is to disarm our military entirely
Which, literally no country on earth would ever accept
Clearly we're not wanted regardless of what we do
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well fuck the US no ones likes them anyway
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Yet somehow Israel's existence is okay despite having more war crimes than anyone in the past 50 years
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well fuck the US no ones likes them anyway
That's the issue, you can't just say fuck you to the US
US is the king of rhe world, they rule over all
They say water is black, everyone will accept it
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Yet somehow Israel's existence is okay despite having more war crimes than anyon...
that's the heritage of the Holocaust, nobody dared to say anything bad about what Israel as a state did/does. Also Israel is one of the US's top clients for weapon purchases, so ofc the US likes them
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US is the king of rhe world, they rule over all
it is starting to change at least here in Europe
people hate the US now and a lot of people try to avoid American companies/products
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that's the heritage of the Holocaust, nobody dared to say anything bad about wha...
This is why we're fucked regardless of what we do. It doesn't matter whether if Iran nukes UK or solves world hunger, we're hated regardless, we're not wanted no matter what
Nobody accepts us, despite having done so little wrong to the world at large
We never even got involved in the 2 world wars
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We never even got involved in the 2 world wars
that's irrelevant, it is the post-revolution Iran that is seen as an ennemy
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people hate the US now and a lot of people try to avoid American companies/produ...
Europe is no better than US, and Europe can never survive without US.
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wasn't it a british colony during the war?
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Yes it was
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that's irrelevant, it is the post-revolution Iran that is seen as an ennemy
And even then we're hated
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Europe is no better than US, and Europe can never survive without US.
it's difficult but we can do it
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It's not like we're innocent, but we'd be hated regardless of what we do
What we did in the past, was nothing compaed to what everyone else did
Compared to what everyone else does
US creates ISIS, Russia creates Taliban, Israel manages active genocide
Yet we're the problem?
If it wasn't for the Ukrainian war, Iran would still be the most sanctioned country on earth
Everything in our coutnry is sanctioned
They'll start sanctioning our part of the atmosphere too if they could
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it's difficult but we can do it
I doubt it, but even if you do, you'll not stop damaging us either
At this rate, I have just come to accept that I am living in a country that God hates
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Then it's a dogfight.
A MiG-21? Against 4th gen fighters?
It's not the plane Mav'. It's the pilot.
I think the pictures are from Dacian Viper exercise in 2015
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*Then it's a dogfight.
A MiG-21? Against 4th gen fighters?
It's not the plane Ma...
In this case, I think it very much is the plane lol
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I think the pictures are from Dacian Viper exercise in 2015
Pretty cool if so, I always like to see these planes in their excerise routines
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These are some great photos
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thanks
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tried to edit one of my shots
the Spitfire XIV in the front looks a little too blue-ish but overall i like it
this is the original
If you're wondering, both aircraft are airworthy
the one on the left is a Spitfire FR XIV based in France and the other one is a Spitfire LF XVIe based in Belgium
I've seen the XVI two times already at airshows, both times flying along an F-16
It also flew above Brussels alongside an F-16 on VE day
Same plane
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Man these pictures are so epic, makes me feel patritotic
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hehe, must say
The MiG-21s used by Romania are really good looking
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wallpaper worthy
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Hell yeah
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Yooo, a very signficiant picture
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Such an unusual idea it was, and more unusual that it actually worked.. to some degree
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With its “near silent” rotors
More cool stuff
Civilian air industry wise boeing isnt that exciting, but as soon as they get a little bit of the defense budget
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Just like how general electric put GAU-17’s on Chevy Suburbans
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They are allgedly gonna make 6th gen jets also tailless
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With the x36 they proved it worked
Sure the plane was a scaled down plane, but they said it wouldnt matter
Stealthy
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But also rather unstable
So definitely room for improvemnet
With modern stability devices they have, shouldn't be an issue
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Well yes you are missing a stabilizer
But mobility wise they didnt have an issue
And that was only the late 90’s version, we are almost 30 years further now
I would just love to see what kind of classified designs they have on planes and helicopters
I remember when the airbus a400 was a brand new prototype i saw it fly
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that's a big dude
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That's the big helicopter
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ye lol
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is that u
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steal it
weary spruce
bet
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Won’t fit in the garage
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damnn
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nice
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that's a big dude
Michael Jordan
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Some great looking photos
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real
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‘83 Cherokee Six
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‘83 Cherokee Six
that's u?
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really cool
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Airshow in a week, practising with the camera on some airliners
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That's rather nice. It's good to get some practice in. Planes fly awayquicly
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Worth noting i'm using a 20 year old 5MP camera
and i'm kinda clueless when it comes to using it properly
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That's mpressive photos for such a system
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Lately i've been getting into planes again
So I can definitely discuss
Also, lovely, a Phantom
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Phantom for life
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@fallow drift You know how you liked the MiG-29 Sniper and its scheme? This mod gives the CFA-44 in AC7 a similar design
Pretty sweet
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That's why I bought that one lol
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Nice. Well done
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https://youtu.be/-VRDrFNMTFA?si=jsokqlL7cPyuGqjN ts make my snake venomous
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"Sorry, we didn't know it was invisible"
Pretty cool idea to mix these together however
Oh by the way A$AP, DCS is bound to be getting a full fidelity MiG-29 Module
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Some edited pictures from the last airshow
Still have a lot to go through
Phone stuff too
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https://imgur.com/2MJ5scy
https://imgur.com/4g4Bc7b
https://imgur.com/LcsJEfY
https://imgur.com/U5GORt4
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nice work
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THanks alot man
I was quite happy with how it turned out
I would like to upload it soon
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BV-347
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what the fuck
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A chinok looking thing with wings? That's unexpected
THe only other helicopter with "wings" That i know of are the Russian ones
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https://imgur.com/IWKdGcE
https://imgur.com/Dq5DYUW
https://imgur.com/LO6vzF6
https://imgur.com/68oRvek
https://imgur.com/fDohNsI
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A chinok looking thing with wings? That's unexpected
The chinook came after this, the BV-347 was really just a testbed
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The chinook came after this, the BV-347 was really just a testbed
Interesting then. A pretty wicked test bed
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Now that's beyond cool
Some of the few Tankers of Iran, and 3 American jets in the same shot
Really cool
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The display I witnessed last month
not my video obviously
Still can't believe I saw a Phantom phlying
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hehe, it's quite a chnce. Glad you got to. Looks great
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Yooo
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Forgot about this thread
I have stuff to post
First time I saw a MiG-21
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ooooh
That's a good look
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Thats a cool photo
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Wind tunnel testing of the “Buran” on top of a an-225 (scale models ofcourse)
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Looks scary
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Still a pretty decent size model
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Insane
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQYx_867ua0
Fuuuuuuuck yes
This is so good to see
This is a good morning to wake up to
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Hell yes
Not a very good trailer imo
Ig it's alright
It just looks so much like AC7
Looking forward though
I will say the trailer reminds me a lot of top gun maverick
And Battlefield 3
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Yeah it seems like that was the intent
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@mental lantern don't you think that Sotoa's roundel looks like Aurelia and Leasath combined?
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<@383153734873645056> don't you think that Sotoa's roundel looks like Aurelia an...
It does look like Aurelia's, and it has Leasath's colors
I doubt it means anything however
Given Sotoa's geography being unrelated to South Osea
I assume it's likely a reference to the country that Sotoa is based on too, that being Iran
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I doubt you're any pre-established character, but more info needs to be revealed first
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God I love project wingman's soundtrack
Hearing kings is not enough
I need it injected in my veins
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Pffft
I was not expecting that
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First time playing this game - kicking some Flanker ass
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still one of my favorite battlefield games, really liked its campaign
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Too quiet in here, wake up
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Eyyy
That's really cool
Two concepts which never came to be
Well, one was a concept
The other was a tech demonstrator
Still, really cool to see the Terminator and Tigershark together
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boeing-sikorsky RAH-66 comanche
part aviation, part maritime
the largest class of submarine, typhoon class
this one was the TK-202
should have never been scrapped
F-117, Operation Desert Storm
i believe the 2nd picture was at King Khalid AirBase
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xb-70 & starfighter had an accident shortly after this pic if any of you remember this
the starfigher was too close and when it lost control it hit the xb-70 and pretty much exploded mid air, xb-70 later on crashed due to losing its stabilisers in the collision
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Still, really cool to see the Terminator and Tigershark together
I think it's just a two seater F-5
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What a disaster
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It's a single engine, look at it
Nah it's got two engines, but the lows resolution kinda hides it
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Hmm, fair enough
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@mental lantern couldn't dm you, but i wanted to say that I hope you're safe with everything going on in Iran these days
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<@383153734873645056> couldn't dm you, but i wanted to say that I hope you're sa...
God have mercy honestly
