pokemon-winds-waves

[ocean vapor]

Gaha I'm sure people do,

[unique karma]

all my shinies come from the most easiest shiny hunting spot T-T

anyone with access to wild zone 3 and a rubber band can easily afk it

[ocean vapor]

Fair

But kids don't usually shiny hunt xD

[unique karma]

well, all the shinies i tried trading around doesn't get accepted

thank you again for the shinies, im really grateful

[ocean vapor]

No problem! :3

[copper sequoia]

@wispy kernel @shrewd jetty (because it’s food related it’s fine )

I have made a meal fit for gods

[shrewd jetty]

Pinging me in the game I haven't played channel, for shame!

[copper sequoia]

Oh shit sorry

[shrewd jetty]

But yeah that does look fucking DELICIOUS

[shrewd jetty]

Dawg it's fine I know I'm late to the party atp.

[copper sequoia]

i’ll shoo you away with a broom now

🧹🧹

[shrewd jetty]

Okay!!!

Baii!!!

[ocean vapor]

Cursed

[vocal charm]

of course pory-z spawns right as my donut energy runs out
and as an alpha, so i have no time to whittle it down

[ocean vapor]

🥀

[forest sable]

I just wanted to ask if it’s possible to trade pokemon holding mega stones

[modest cave]

Considering doing an Isabeau RP run of PLZA
She deserves to be in France

[ocean vapor]

Nope!

[wispy kernel]

scary

[finite totem]

Needs a donut made by Ansha

[forest sable]

Just gotta fill my mega evo dex

[oak panther]

Is anyone able to help me evolve pokemon by trading? I’ve got like 7 that need to evolve

[forest sable]

charm is so good

i got a shiny honedge in 8 minutes

of hunting for it

[oak panther]

Nice

[ocean vapor]

Sure!

[oak panther]

Thank you

[oak panther]

You want the link code the now?

[ocean vapor]

Sure, let me grab my switch rq ^^

[oak panther]

Cool no problem

[ocean vapor]

Ready!

[oak panther]

2546 3178 is the code

[ocean vapor]

Omg sorry I was distracted HEHAJDB

[oak panther]

don’t worry about it lol

Onix is just the last one

Thanks again for the help I really appreciate it

Yeah that’s all thanks

Trade evolutions are literally the worst method in the entire series

[ocean vapor]

No worries! :D

And yeah they suck

[oak panther]

Hold up

[unique karma]

I found a full odds random shiny binacle as i was walking aroud, this is so tuff

[oak panther]

Why hasn’t this changed?

Does the Pokémon need to evolve when I get it?

[unique karma]

i think you might need a pokemon like haunter to get the request completed

[oak panther]

Does the Pokémon need to evolve on my end? Because I just traded all my Pokémon with misinformation bunny, but the Pokemon evolved on their end

[unique karma]

yeah it needs to evolve on your end

so misinformation bunny would be the one to send the pokemon that evolves via link trade

[oak panther]

Balls

At least my Pokédex is complete

[unique karma]

i still need diancie

ill get them later

[oak panther]

Hey dude are you still available? I might need some more help

[ocean vapor]

Hm?

[oak panther]

This is the problem

[oak panther]

I think the Pokemon need to evolve when I receive them

And I don’t think you can cancel trade evos. So if it’s not too much bother, could you catch like 5 pumpkaboo or whatever trade evos and to send to me?

I’ll give you them back after, i figured pumpkaboo was easy.

It’s no problem if you can’t be bothered, it is kinda a lot to ask

[ocean vapor]

Sure ^^

[oak panther]

Thanks you, sorry to be a bother

[ocean vapor]

Ready! And no worries at all xD

Same code?

[oak panther]

Cool, just same code as last time

I think that was the last one

But yeah thanks again, I greatly appreciate the help

[ocean vapor]

Thats all I got for now

No problem! ^^

[oak panther]

Yeah but don’t you want your Allakazam back?

[ocean vapor]

Nah! Keep em xD

[oak panther]

Ok cool, thanks again

[ocean vapor]

Np ^^

[oak panther]

Finally

[unique karma]

im only level 47 T-T

[oak panther]

Do you still have to the 1000 battles?

[unique karma]

ummmm.....

im still having to do 211/500...

im don't like battle zones...

[ocean vapor]

Felt

If you plan on getting the dlc, dont bother xd

[runic peak]

Pog

It's actually not that bad

I can just mash buttons while watching some video

Still kinda annoying

[rancid wraith]

I wonder...
Could you fly away on mega greninja? Like a helicopter?-

[unique karma]

i have the dlc, im fine

[little nacelle]

FINALLY took down

||Rogue tatsugiri||

Couldn't someone have dreamt abt anorith please

HAH

HAHAHHA

[runic peak]

what is mable researching with you doing 1k battles

[robust wren]

Exp yield, move effectiveness, EVs and how those work? Maybe one of those but I think 1000 might be a bit high of a sample size

[runic peak]

Oh that makes sense

[vocal charm]

How many participants continue to attend despite getting trounced by you

[runic peak]

997 ‼️ ‼️ ‼️

I am free

Later I'll get switch online for the link trade missions and complete the dex and then I can finally shiny hunt

https://tenor.com/view/litwick-pokemon-hearts-gif-6160513

[kind quiver]

If you have the dlc you can catch every trade evo but one i think.

[runic peak]

I don't

[kind quiver]

And the dlc has missions which make it easier to get the shiny charm. And easier to hunt some mon as shiny.

[runic peak]

I'm using the free week of switch online now though

[kind quiver]

Like the fossils.

[runic peak]

I'm doing the trades

[kind quiver]

Do the online battles if you are using the free trial. It is pretty easy to rank up the first few ranks to get those mega stones. If you want them.

[runic peak]

Yeah I'm going to

I prepared some mons

I mainly want to get chesnaughtite

i completed the dex yay

also i'm not entirely sure about doing this but i'd like to know if there's somebody that could help me evolve a shiny haunter

i named it TRADE BACK btw

if I end up losing it then oh well that would kinda suck but at least i don't care enough about gengar

the shiny mega is just really cool

[forest sable]

I’m gonna hunt for a shiny gastly

Cuz I alr phased on honedge

[forest sable]

You’d probably fall cuz the star is likely spinning round and round

But if you have great balance, you might be able to

Unless the star is fully water

Then that might be a problem

[rancid wraith]

Aww man

[forest sable]

Greninja is a short king

He’s 4’11

[forest sable]

I had a look a mega greninja Dex entry, the star is made of membrane which would be quite sticky which could allow you stay on top, but if you do end up falling you’d get cut up

Seeing as the star is pretty sharp

[rancid wraith]

Oh

[kind quiver]

Greninja can just carry you and helicopter feet will be above you

[runic peak]

vanilluxe is so fun to used in ranked

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-love-ice-cream-ice-vanilluxe-picmix-gif-14018561317905324571

[coarse drift]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-mania-gif-7626559

[runic peak]

and I didn't know that you could set a battle music, hell yeah i can listen to jacinthe's theme

[coarse drift]

Best theme by far imo, and the best character to depict the mischievous of the Fae, but I still dislike her

Though, I'm wanting to join the Rust Syndicate, so I'm biased

He's a 'bad' guy, but not that bad when it comes down to it

[viscid adder]

I finally got to the Starmie on High side mission and I was laughing my ass off over the sight of my Mega Alpha Starmie standing around with a bunch of other Starmies in a Starmie cult

[forest sable]

I just realised what ur pfp is

I thought it was

[rancid wraith]

BUCKY BARNES BABYYYYY!!!!!!

WINTER SOLDIER!!!!!!!!!!

[left flower]

https://tenor.com/view/winter-solder-ult-bucky-ult-bucky-winter-soldier-marvel-rivals-gif-7485867433641480076

[rancid wraith]

#off-topic time

[runic peak]

Holy shit the shiny charm is broken 😭

I found a shiny litwick after like 10 min of hunting

I love him sm

https://tenor.com/view/litwick-pokemon-hearts-gif-6160513

[viscid adder]

My ass is totally gonna grind to get that wild shiny mareep

[runic peak]

lol

[viscid adder]

Yeah I got a shiny Sandile, Skiddo, and an alpha Mawile, but no shiny mareep

[runic peak]

peak pokemon

imma hunt for falinks now

[robust wren]

Crazy how Gamefreak locked in with the Litwick line having the absolute coolest flame colors as shinies and then proceeded to barely ever change them going forward

[runic peak]

wdym

[charred sage]

thought you said they locked in with the line's HA then changed it since monkind was not ready for that power

(for context, the line's hidden ability in gen 5 was SHADOW TAG, which gen 6 changed to a more sensible infltrator)

[runic peak]

mega chandelure with shadow tag fr 🔥 🔥

I love how the golden parts are like silver in the shiny

They're more noticeable too it looks nice

[runic peak]

bro

I just got a shiny froakie before shiny falinks 😭

the shiny charm is on another level

[runic peak]

the game just gave me a shiny fletchling now

why is falinks taking longer than litwick

i'm actually getting trolled so hard i just got another shiny fletchling 😭

OH

chocolate bois ‼️ ‼️ ‼️

[vocal charm]

i got a chocolate-flavored swirlix today

and 🤔 i also caught a shiny gastly

[runic peak]

i wanna hunt for eevee next

tomorrow though because it's late lol

https://tenor.com/view/happy-shiny-pokemon-umbreon-shiny-umbreon-gif-7467145970951292110

also i'm not entirely sure about what's the best method to hunt for eevee, couldn't really get a good answer online

[finite totem]

Zone 19 I guess

[ocean vapor]

Base game would be on the rooftops, you just run back and forth to respawn the eevee

In dlc, it'd be ||special scans, where you can get en eeveelution special scan 👍 or a large hyperspace, I've run into eevees there all the time (even when they dont fall under the hyperspace's type)||

[forest sable]

ATP it’s normal

Ran into 3 shiny froakie before falinks

And this was before I got charm

[ocean vapor]

Lookin for an armerouge for the dex ^^ we can just touch trade 👍

[forest sable]

Yo Bunny

[ocean vapor]

Hiya

[forest sable]

I just wanted to ask if you were able to help me with smth

[forest sable]

I got a shiny haunter and wanted to evolve it into gengar

So I was wondering if you could help

[ocean vapor]

Sure, lemme open my switch 👍

[forest sable]

K

Thx

Lemme connect to airport wifi

Might take a little

[ocean vapor]

Ready when you are ^^

No worries

[forest sable]

Its take a while

It’s just loading

[ocean vapor]

Take your time x3

[forest sable]

You can do go back to what u were doing while I try figure this internet out

[ocean vapor]

I'm just watching some vids so nws!

[forest sable]

This might have to wait till tmr when I get home, sry for wasting ur time

[ocean vapor]

No worries man, ping me when ya need me!

[forest sable]

Thx

[forest sable]

I got a shiny goomy🥳

I’m never evolving it

[ocean vapor]

Oh slay!!!

[forest sable]

I want a shalpha tho

So ima continue hunting

[little nacelle]

i got a shiny froakie just normally lmao

i was gonna catch a NORMAL barbaracle

then noticed the fella was pale

and like. that greninja ended up staying til the end

fun fact that ariados ended up staying on the team

[finite totem]

and it didnt just escape the moment it seen you

I struggled hard to catch a normal one

[lime void]

That’s why you save beforehand

[gritty sluice]

You know from I've seen this might be the first pokemon game I'll be getting since sun and moon

It looks really fun

[little nacelle]

i had to constantly reset lmao

i think it took me

what

5, 6 tries

[finite totem]

anyways time to catch kyodonquaza trio

[runic peak]

oh I caught the shiny first try 😭

i think it even saw me but idk

[little nacelle]

you know

i think legends ZA is a terrible game

it doesn't have one of the most important pokemon known to man

https://tenor.com/view/armaldo-pokémon-armaldo-anorith-pooemon-anorith-fossil-gif-26752742

[lime void]

It also doesn’t have the best Pokémon

[little nacelle]

Anorith? ❌
Spoink? ✅

WHO IN LUMIOSE DREAMT OF SPOINK

:T

SPOINK IS COOL BUT SPOINK OVER ANORITH??? :((

[runic peak]

It does not have

https://tenor.com/view/shedinja-ghost-bug-pokemon-angel-gif-16165403953754013714

Therefore it's the worst game oat

[lime void]

And it has the Hoenn starter megas behind 2 different pay walls, meanwhile the Kanto starters are in the base game and there’s an Alpha Charizard available through mystery gift because fuck you

[jaunty comet]

There could still be a second dlc with these mons
Let them cook

[finite totem]

hey now you could have had a Mega Pikachu X/Y and Mega Eevee X/Y

and remember, fan service over plot

[runic peak]

https://tenor.com/view/flygon-pokemon-mega-flygon-mega-mega-evolution-gif-11294161806650074048

2026*

[little nacelle]

Legends za general...

how bad are these designs

[runic peak]

that face on the simisage 😭

[little nacelle]

:))

[runic peak]

I love it

[little nacelle]

that shit eating grin is from beta simisage lmao

[runic peak]

Oh lol

[little nacelle]

(as is the tail actually)

simipour probably is the worst of the three because the only notable thing is the hair "knot"

[runic peak]

Mega elemental monkeys are the true megas we need fr

[finite totem]

do anyone not just get elemental monkey and box them?

[unborn pewter]

I like the elemonkeys

[finite totem]

(simipour is a good hm slave tho)

[unborn pewter]

they're silly

[little nacelle]

oh do you want a funny thing

[jade ocean]

I don't think there's a single non-Smogon player who would've wanted Mega Heatran

With that said Mega Heatran is one of the best Megas in the DLC

And also I'm a Smogon player anyways

So like

Massive W for me

[unborn pewter]

I do quite like funny things

[runic peak]

Can't believe a smogon player was in lumiose city and had an intense dream

[unborn pewter]

OH THAT'S A CUTE MEGA LEAVANNY DESIGN

[finite totem]

can legends zed eye even have a competative scene?

[little nacelle]

MEGA GARDEVOIR CALLED...

[little nacelle]

it is one of my best lmao

[jade ocean]

I mean it kinda does?

[little nacelle]

there's also Mega Swoobat :>

[unborn pewter]

hey I've seen this one!!

[jade ocean]

But like really we're just waiting for them to be brought into Champions and/or Gen 10 since ZA competitive is extremely different from either Singles or Doubles

[unborn pewter]

(it's the Swoobat^2 sprite in the PIF Hoenn dex right?)

[little nacelle]

guess who the creator is :3

[unborn pewter]

I don't have to, I figured it's you since you posted it

[little nacelle]

yeah lol

[runic peak]

Mega chandelure and falinks will get broken abilities trust

New meta

[jade ocean]

Shadow Tag Mega Chandelure, trust

[little nacelle]

The promised shadow tag 🙏

[unborn pewter]

Shadow Tag return

[jade ocean]

Mega Gengar's getting banned to AG anyways so by default it's the best trapper in Singles

Because who tf uses Gothitelle or Wobbuffet seriously in Ubers

[finite totem]

wonder what garbage would mega legendaries will get

pressure or airlock

[unborn pewter]

Mega Falinks gets Parental Bond^6

[little nacelle]

the goat...

[unborn pewter]

Slow Start Mega Heatran

[little nacelle]

i might edit the eyes

[jade ocean]

They should give Mega Heatran Earth Eater

Because it'd be funny

[unborn pewter]

no no. Mega Eelektross Earth Eater

[runic peak]

Mega falinks after using close combat 😭

[jade ocean]

I mean it has a big mouth

I'm sure it could eat earth with it

[little nacelle]

how's this?

[finite totem]

new fire -ify ability trust

[jade ocean]

There's not really any ability I'm confident in any new Mega getting

[little nacelle]

NO ONE loved aromatisse :((

[jade ocean]

Apart from y'know

[unborn pewter]

oh DIVA

[jade ocean]

Mega Starmie Huge Power (or a Huge Power Clone)

[little nacelle]

man i sure wonder who else i gave a mega

[unborn pewter]

only complaint is that it should look more plague doctor-esque imo but I fuck with this more drag queen-like look heavily

[runic peak]

They should give mega starmie huge power but keep the same attack stat as za

[unborn pewter]

Cradily

[finite totem]

kabutops?

[little nacelle]

mega armaldo is... a scrabble of a design.

[unborn pewter]

opabinia fossil mon when

...wait

actually

a Mega Armaldo based on the opabinia could go hard

[runic peak]

Oh damn I was expecting eternal bug mega anorith

[little nacelle]

no no

that's eternal claw Mega Anorith 😔

100/255/255/255/255/255

[jade ocean]

Eternaburmy from ER, except it's Anorith

[little nacelle]

bug/steel
Fire eater (immune to fire, +6 attack and speed if hit by fire)

[unborn pewter]

(Z-A spoiler) ||Hyperrogue Mega Duke-Anorith when||

[little nacelle]

Burmy?

[jade ocean]

Elite Redux is a very silly game

[little nacelle]

i actually showed mothim some love

[runic peak]

Mega shedinja

The potential man

[little nacelle]

and there's this lassie too

[runic peak]

Those look cool

[little nacelle]

you can tell i was grasping MAJOR straws for mega wormadam

combining all 3 into one form, making it legible at all, implementing the Expert Belt, and the type items

if you're wondering where the miracle seed is

its on the backsprite

lets put it this way it's also the one with the most lengthy dex entry lmao

When it was first discovered, it was thought to be a Burmy that evolved while wearing multiple cloaks. However, it was a Mega Wormadam. Mega Wormadam seems to have the power to transform its cloak's material into any type it desires, with the power of the two Expert Belts lodged into it. It seems to combine the elements of a Plant, Sandy and Trash cloak, and has somehow found and added a metal coat, a bag of sand and a seed to itself.

it has protean lmao

[little nacelle]

you can. TELL. it was grasping at straws.

[runic peak]

oh btw

i've seen some people suggest abilities for mega falinks that are like that; parental bond the sequel
and like i find it funny but it doesn't really make sense because the mega is all the bois combining to make a single unit

[little nacelle]

yk what

i'll call it

defiant

it's gonna be defiant or justified.

i'm gonna THINK justified because yk

fist of JUSTICE

[runic peak]

oh that's a cool idea

[little nacelle]

remember when i was the first one of us here playing Z-A

[jade ocean]

The funniest one would be Simple

No Retreat being a Double Omniboost sounds so funny

[runic peak]

I just hope mega falinks gets smth cool because falinks is not that good

lmao

[unborn pewter]

fish

[runic peak]

what is contaminating goldeen

[little nacelle]

fsih

[little nacelle]

hmm what is green with red and white feathers

[runic peak]

is it anorith

oh damn i sent the message too late

[unborn pewter]

clearly it's Yanmega

[runic peak]

I kinda forgot that we're in a pokemon fusion server

[little nacelle]

clearly

you do not own a air fryer

[unborn pewter]

clearly you don't own an Anorith fryer

[little nacelle]

bald...

[unborn pewter]

why is this in the Z-A chat now

[little nacelle]

because i am manifesting anorith into Z-A...

[runic peak]

ok yeah we should remain on topic

Anyways

Mega eternal claw anorith

the claws are the ultimate weapon btw

[quiet frost]

PSA about the dlc: DO NOT SELECT TO GIVE UP ON THE RAYQUAZA FIGHT TO PREPARE. it forces you to REMAKE the donut to go back in.

[hidden topaz]

Does anyone want to battle me in Z-A?

Or nah?

[desert current]

The expert belts especially feel so random... Its like they had too many ideas at once and tried to make them all work. 😅

[desert current]

Might make it actually worth using...

As is Falinks feels a little too much like a gimmick. Most of the time its not worth wasting your mega slot on.

Because it usually dies by the time it can set up a single No Retreat, even with the extra Mega stats.

[little nacelle]

that's me :DD

pov
-writer spriter designer mapper everything lmao

[forest sable]

I got my shalpha goomy🥳

I had to sacrifice my sleep

And phased on 1 pidgey, 3 magikarp, 2 goomy, and a chikorita

[quiet frost]

im not even just forced to see mega medicham. im being forced to USE HIM? FOR A SIDE QUEST?

get this thing out of my party fucking immediately

[surreal belfry]

Yea those quest annoyed me and the worst is way at the end

[charred sage]

yea I wasn't counting sidequests but I think "use this X mega show it to me" added 3-4 more mega pops onto my run

[forest sable]

Could someone help me evolve my shiny haunter

I might wait for misinformation bunny

To get online

I don’t wanna ping them in case they’re doing smth

[ocean vapor]

Was I pingied?

[forest sable]

Hiii

Sorry

[ocean vapor]

Nws!

[forest sable]

I was just wondering if u were free rn to help w/ evolving haunter

I got back home

[ocean vapor]

Sure thing ^^

[forest sable]

Thx

[ocean vapor]

Np!

Lemme boot the gamee

[forest sable]

K

code?

[ocean vapor]

Lets do 1100 4949

[forest sable]

K

[forest sable]

Ur fxmboy right

[ocean vapor]

Mhm!

[forest sable]

Thx!

[ocean vapor]

Np!

[quiet frost]

look at my shalpha meowstic isnt she so pretty

[ocean vapor]

Pretty baby

[quiet frost]

my brother finally got his first shalpha a couple days ago and it was a shiny he already had (pidgey)

[runic peak]

can somebody help me evolve a shiny haunter?

[finite totem]

Now all we need for gen 10 is alpha wailmer

[vocal charm]

finally got my pory-z
also machoke's shiny is the incredible hulk

[vocal charm]

imagine hating mega medicham

[quiet frost]

i just dont like medicham in general

i think its an ugly design that fails to convey what its trying to

and its trying to convey like 4 things at once which doesnt help it much

like yeah modern pokemon have complex inspirations but you look at stuff like meowscarada and its like "okay so its conveying a trickster masquerade" or like skeledirge "ok so its a dia de los muertos sugar skull mixed with a dirge and a crocodile" they dont have that many things that are ALL trying to be the focal point at one time

its also a lot of the same issues i have with the machop line. they're TOO human. like not even just humanoid, that is a man.

every time someone says machamp's ugly mug should get a mega a puppy gets fucking shot

[vocal charm]

so you're saying machamp will bullet punch a fidough

[quiet frost]

fidough deserves better

there's multiple gen 1 mons that absolutely deserve megas more than machamp though

[vocal charm]

really? i feel like "warrior mystic" is enough of a trope that it doesn't feel like it's trying to incorporate several things at once

[quiet frost]

i wanna see a mega electrode

[vocal charm]

just big round rotom energy
it's an electrode that already exploded 😌

[quiet frost]

its trying to be a monk, meditation instructor, a hindu god, and a Man at once

and again i just think medicham is really ugly regardless

[vocal charm]

so, three things
since monks, meditation instructors, and hindu gods can also be Men

[quiet frost]

one of very few mons that i genuinely think are poorly designed

[vocal charm]

idk, i don't think medicham incorporates more disparate elements than, say, tropius

tropius is a banana dinosaur that can fly
neither bananas nor sauropods can fly

[quiet frost]

we got

donut lips
weird hat hair
looks like its just wearing clothes

[vocal charm]

at least monks, meditation instructors, and hindu gods all have the mystic theme

[quiet frost]

i just really dont think medicham is a well designed Pokemon

[charred sage]

you can just say "too human" and be fine with that lol

[quiet frost]

sure maybe as a standalone design its okay

but as a pokemon its abysmal dogshit

[vocal charm]

i don't want to imply that you're not entitled to your opinion!
your reasoning for it is just weird to me 😅

[quiet frost]

its just a weird design that doesnt fit cleanly into any group of mons

almost every pokemon can kinda be lumped into a "category"

the only category i can think of for medicham is a category with itself and machamp as "weird man things"

theres only a select few pokemon i actively dislike

[charred sage]

sawk & throh?

[quiet frost]

see but those two feel like their own thing

[vocal charm]

i was about to mention them
also the hitmons

[quiet frost]

and with those two i dont mind them being their own thing

[charred sage]

(tbh "weird man thing" feels like fighting type's general asthetic with a few exceptions)

[quiet frost]

at least they arent unpleasant to look at

[quiet frost]

not really? fighting is still a very diverse type

[charred sage]

mostly ones that lean more into being animals like heracross and mienshao

[vocal charm]

mienfoo and mienshao's bulbapedia pages mention that they were designed that way because most Fighting types are humanoid and some kid i think? wanted more animalian

[quiet frost]

is mankey a weird man thing

i didnt think so

[vocal charm]

yeah, here we are:

According to Ken Sugimori, Mienfoo and its Evolution were created after the game planners requested for Fighting-type Pokémon based on animals, since most pre-existing Fighting-type Pokémon had been humanoid in appearance. Based on this, Mienfoo was designed after an ermine and a user of kung fu.[1] It may also be based on the kamaitachi, a weasel yōkai with sharp claws.

[quiet frost]

ALSO a gen 1 mon right next to machamp btw

i like mienfoo and mienshao tbh i think they're very well put together

[charred sage]

yea some of the gen 5 design stories are somethin

[quiet frost]

fighting type is like. the most diverse type in terms of my opinions on the pokemon. because it goes from "i really like these" (heracross, mienshao, lucario, pangoro) to "go girl give us nothing" (primeape, poliwrath, hariyama) to "ew ew ew ugly"

[charred sage]

such as jellicent's line not being ghost types at first and their designer being quite unhappy over The Usual Ghost Type Lore being applied to them

[quiet frost]

poliwrath is literally the most "this did not have to exist" mon from gen 1 ever

[charred sage]

you say that but lickitung

[quiet frost]

like they couldve stopped at poliwhirl and no one would have noticed

[charred sage]

which I guess is a myth reference and some grossout jokes but still

[quiet frost]

lickitung is... something

i dont actively dislike it but its definitely in the "you go girl give us nothing" category of pokemon for me

[charred sage]

that's probably the main one I can think of from gen 1 tho

[vocal charm]

Frillish and Jellicent were originally pure Water-type. The Ghost type was added to their typing for balancing reasons, with Ken Sugimori noting that the designer for the Frillish line was disappointed that they ended up becoming scary Pokémon.[1]
huh

[charred sage]

since even some of the other bad ones have their intent as "practical joke on the player" like farfetch'd

[quiet frost]

i love frillish sm but jellicent is kind of a nothingburger

[quiet frost]

don't disrespect the fetch'd

[charred sage]

I like the pringles stache and the shiny palette on the male but yea

I mean gameplay wise (outside of gens 6 and 8) I can but visually it's fine

[quiet frost]

out of all the gen 1 mons i would want a mega for lowkey electrode would be the most fun

[vocal charm]

i'll disrespect the galarian fetch'd
i'm trying to do the farfetch'd ambush quest and the Fighting typing is straight up a hindrance here
so i'm gonna have to wait for a regular fetch'd to spawn in a hyperspace pocket

[quiet frost]

like almost every gen 1 mon i would say deserves a mega has gotten one at this point LMAO

[charred sage]

mine would probably be uuuh most of the ones I'm thinking of have another form of some kind

mr. mime would be funny as a counterpart to mr. ryme though

kinda like a banette/dusknoir situation

[quiet frost]

theres a few gen1-ers that i would still like to see a mega for (and especially ones im amazed they HAVENT made megas for) like butterfree, arcanine, ninetales

[charred sage]

I made sure to get a normal farf for that quest at least

[quiet frost]

like butterfree is literally the direct counterpart to beedrill why doesnt it have a mega

[charred sage]

yea if I had a choice of any gen 1 mon it's be ninetales tbh

[vocal charm]

i swear i caught a regular fetch'd but it's not in my box so

[charred sage]

but it already has a regional and then arcanine got one so they're fine right now

[quiet frost]

unfortunately the chances of her getting one at this point are slim due to her getting an alolan form

[vocal charm]

it got gigantamax

[quiet frost]

yeah but thats like nothing for it who's actually using gmax butterfree

[jade ocean]

You don't get it they gave Butterfree a Gmax form which is obviously equal to a Mega so it gets nothing now

[charred sage]

ninetales could do a silly drought -> sun ability gambit but I don't see that being lore friendly sadly

[jade ocean]

Well ay least Gmax Butterfree is one of the like 40% of Gmaxes that are better than Dmax

[quiet frost]

gmax butterfree shouldve just been a mega design

[jade ocean]

And also it looks cool

[lime void]

It’s not equal to a mega, but it shouldn’t get anything else for a while

[charred sage]

I feel like that's most gigantamaxes lol

[vocal charm]

~the designer of Mega Froslass

[jade ocean]

No, most are both not equal to Megas and worse than Dmax

[charred sage]

but then again the only place G-maxes are still even vaguely relevant is GO

[jade ocean]

And also tbh some also kinda just don't look cool

[charred sage]

for designs or gameplay because for the latter fair enough but

[jade ocean]

I'm sorry, Gmax Zard's wings are way too disproportionately small for me to like it

[quiet frost]

i appreciate that gamefreak at least actually gave the gimmick forms to pokemon introduced with said gimmick for swsh though

cant say that about megas

[charred sage]

since gameplay wise the specialized abilities are almost all worse than the more generalized but inherently useful abilities on the normal moves

outside of ones where they had no use for the generalized ones like gengar and garbodor

[vocal charm]

i guess it looks different in-game?

[quiet frost]

the only gen 6 mon with a mega prior to za was diancie and it still wasn't even a thing until oras

[jade ocean]

It might be the angle idk

But like

They're so small

Why is bro even still a Flying type

How is bro flying

Tiny-ass wings

[quiet frost]

lowkey prefer gmax zard's design to mega zard x and im not kidding

[vocal charm]

dragonite

[jade ocean]

The fire wings are cool until you realise how small they are

[jade ocean]

I mean Dnite's not my 2nd least favourite Pseudo for 0 reason

But I still like it

[wild saffron]

Is anyone able to help me evolve my shiny alpha scyther and feebas?

[jade ocean]

Mainly because Dnite is supposed to be goofy

[quiet frost]

i think they wanted to make mega dragonite dragon/fairy but they were scared people would think it was stealing altaria's thunder

[jade ocean]

Gmax Zard is trying to be intimidating

[quiet frost]

whats your least favorite. if its goodra i swear

[jade ocean]

But I can't tale those stupid small wings seriously

[charred sage]

still at work but I can help in about 4-5 hours if nobody else can

[jade ocean]

Baxcalibur, easily

I still would rank it a B tier

But like a low B tier

[charred sage]

tyranitar as least for me, filthy cheater

[quiet frost]

see i dont mind the bax

[jade ocean]

Dnite would be a high B tier

[vocal charm]

they all go heavy on the goofy perspective

[jade ocean]

As would Goodra, Ttar, Hydrei and Mence

Most Pseudos rank at High B

[charred sage]

ok this is off topic but copperajah's just makes me think of a muth from super paper mario for some reason

[vocal charm]

i think the mid-stage is best, tbh
now that i've actually gotten to use one

[hazy knot]

kingler is probably my favorite g-max

[quiet frost]

like yeah hes a nothingburger but at least the burger tastes good yknow

[charred sage]

mid-stage pupitar is hilarious though. strongest cocoon mon

[jade ocean]

There's only 3 Pokemon I view negatively

[charred sage]

(outside of shelgon and maybe char- oh gosh that'd be an awful challenge run)

[jade ocean]

The 2 Mega Latis are both worse in design than the original 2 and less distinguishable from the original 2

[charred sage]

same here for me it's the stretched mons (thwakey, sneaseler, mega starmie to a way lesser extent) charizard, glaceon in some contexts, and smoochum

[quiet frost]

i like the mega latis..........

[jade ocean]

Which stings since Latios was my favourite Pokemon for ages and is still ranked 3rd as of right now

And then there's Fucker Mane

[charred sage]

mr 135/135 with the best offensive type combo in the series go brbrbrb

[vocal charm]

actually on a similar note
i wish the animators had given munna's smoke and froakie's bubbles some cycling animations
they should undulate and roll like a fluid! not ripple like a solid object!

[jade ocean]

Just search up the times I've complained about that to see why I hate it because I can't be bothered to repeat myself again rn

Oh, and a majority of babies, too

[charred sage]

reminds me of torkoal's smoke

[jade ocean]

But that's on principal more than anything else

[charred sage]

I forget what gen they finally fixed just the solid blob with a smoke texture on it

tempted to say 9 but I could be wrong

[jade ocean]

If they're adding worthless piles of trash that add nothing of value to the game and actively take away from their evolutionary line

Then I'm gonna view then as such

[vocal charm]

you have angered the piles of trash

[jade ocean]

See, that's different

[charred sage]

I see them as something that's just not meant for the games so much as the other parts of the franchise, they're just there for consistency with the points where they are relevant (most notably the TGC I think)

[jade ocean]

Trubbish is a worthful (?) pile of trash

Igglybuff is a worthless one

It isn't even a good marketable plushy

[left flower]

.........

[jade ocean]

Mf failed on every front

[charred sage]

Masters EX players right now

[robust wren]

I want Duraludon to get a baby just to see internet arguments on whether or not the line counts as a Pseudo as a result of its existence

[jade ocean]

That would admittedly be hilarious

[left flower]

I beg to differ there is a cute sleeping one!

[jade ocean]

And I don't think you can go further than Archaludon

For evolutions

600 BST, already an amazing Pokemon

[vocal charm]

igglybuff makes great autogens, though

[charred sage]

also my thoughts on trubbish is that it makes a nice solid/liquid/gas trio with grimer and muk

[jade ocean]

Would probably be better as just Jigglypuff

[vocal charm]

don't you mean mastersex /j

[left flower]

😭

mah baby

[jade ocean]

Like you can love it since it's an opinion

With that said my opinion on Igglybuff is very negative

[left flower]

thats fine i just being dramatic

:p

[vocal charm]

i think a baby would be neat, now that i think about it
the design is so gawky and bonkers it'd be neat to see a small guy version of it

[robust wren]

My personal vote for least necessary Pokémon is that stupid babuu form of Terapagos that literally can't even battle cause it immediately transforms into the actually interesting form

That form only exists to sell merch and I refuse to believe otherwise

And Terapagos is already endearing without that form so it's completely unnecessary from that perspective too

[left flower]

I just like the cute lil ball

https://tenor.com/view/寵物小精靈-gif-21342895

[jade ocean]

True, but the thing is for me is that it may not have added anything

But there's nothing it removes

Wigglytuff was in dire need of an evolution and it had that chance ripped away from it by Igglybuff

[charred sage]

"Terapagos Anime Form"

tbh xern has the same thing except there it's just cosmetic

[left flower]

I think part of my okness with it is because stats are not my first thought usually ever with pokemon

[vocal charm]

ah, so you're saying wigglytuff needs a mega
man, what would that even look like
more rabbity?

[left flower]

So maybe thats my bias

[jade ocean]

This is the core issue I have with a majority of babies, they remove pathways for evo lines to be buffed into non-irrelevancy

[charred sage]

makes sense yea, as I said some mons get their best use in non-main series contexts

[vocal charm]

jiggly becomes the first four-stager

[jade ocean]

Though if they provide something of worth like Tyrogue or aren't literally added a generation or a few after their evo I don't mind

[left flower]

Unless they at somepoint break the 3 evo stage

[left flower]

Same braincell

[jade ocean]

I have a similar issues with Megas though to a far lesser extent

Because like they actually serve as a buff by themselves

[left flower]

Megas for the single stages i feel

[vocal charm]

who was it who was very madge that skarmory got a mega instead of an evo?

[left flower]

Since once megas are gone again they aint ver guds

[jade ocean]

It is annoying but I'm not too mad

[robust wren]

With Champions around the corner, Megas at least have a place they can always be used regardless of if Gamefreak wants to make more

[jade ocean]

Since Skarm's already a pretty good Pokemon

Something that does kinda piss me off is Malamar's Mega

Malamar was certainly a mon that needs buffs

[vocal charm]

it looks cool though!

[left flower]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

[jade ocean]

Mega Malamar was NOT it

[robust wren]

I still can't get over how Mega Malamars stats are literally a joke

[left flower]

It was so hyped and yeah it lookks cool

[jade ocean]

It doesn't annoy me enough to knock it down a few placements

[left flower]

But it was very irrelevant

[jade ocean]

But man

Those stats are worse than my self-esteem

[robust wren]

Mega Scovillain is probably the Mon that was screwed over the most by Mega Evolution

[jade ocean]

At least it could probably be the best Sun sweeper if it had Chlorophyll

[vocal charm]

speaking of 'mons that look cool
am i the only one who thinks emboar looks cool?
both ZenMode and RTGame called it ugly

[jade ocean]

... Surely it'll have Chlorophyll right?

[robust wren]

That's a big if

[left flower]

Regular emboar?

[jade ocean]

Gamefreak can't possibly be that dimwitted

Well I say this

But Mega Malamar exists

[left flower]

I think regular emboar is decently designed yea :3

[jade ocean]

And genuinely the only thing that could salvage it is Trick Room on Entry

Which is not happening, ever

Mega Pyroar is also poor in stats but like

[vocal charm]

he looks cool
he's a man-shaped chonkster, but like
"ugly"??

[jade ocean]

I could see it actually being a menace in a tier like RU or NU with Drought

And without it, well

It'll probably still be NU or PU at least

[vocal charm]

just ignoring the stats, the design is cool

[jade ocean]

Can I say the same for Mega Malamar?

[left flower]

I think its how his face looks too wide for me

[jade ocean]

Ehh....

[robust wren]

Hard disagree. To me it just feels like the stereotypical fan design where it just gets spikier. The jalapeño necktie is kinda interesting, but eh

[vocal charm]

the little things, like the pepper seeds becoming horns

[left flower]

I find it hard to be upset with things because i just love pokemon a lot
maybe thats just my autistic hyperfixations making be bias but idk

[vocal charm]

i think it works since it's scovillain, after all
it's a bunch of subtle changes, but the more you notice, the more they build up
tbh, the pepper tie is my least favorite element

[vocal charm]

oh actually that brings me back to my earlier point
make pyroar's mane undulate

[jade ocean]

Tbh same here overall

[charred sage]

late but there's a reason why I joke that a lot of the fire/fighting memes were basically just emboar bashing that brought infernape and (sometimes) blaziken into the crossfire

[jade ocean]

Once again, I only dislike 3 Pokemon on a personal level

[robust wren]

The only Pokémon I personally dislike are the Galar fossils

[vocal charm]

its mane lights up when it's doing an attack
so it's supposed to be fire, not just fire-shaped hair, yeah?
make it undulate like flames

[left flower]

my sillyyy bois..?

[robust wren]

The Pokémon you're actively making suffer by prolonging their existence, yes

[left flower]

no i get ya

I just love the concept/real life inspiration

[vocal charm]

i created fakemon evos that don't "fix" them but make their existence less suffering
make them hold an item + friendship
give my boy arctozolt a scarf, y'know?

[charred sage]

it feels very in line with the series undercurrent of "is this new power really worth it? I didn't think so" that shows up more outside of the games

[left flower]

I love that

[jade ocean]

I like Dracovish

For a very simple reason

[vocal charm]

fishious rend?

[jade ocean]

Funny calc with big number make my brain go yippee!

[left flower]

https://tenor.com/view/dracovish-pokemon-running-gif-19211345

[jade ocean]

Similar reasoning to mons like Chi-Yu or Darm, though I like those 2 outside of funny calc a mega shitload more than Dracovish

Darm is also a lot worse than the other 2 but who cares it 2HKOs mf Alomomola

That's hilarious

[left flower]

I just like silly fish

Give him a water tank thingy and we can be friends >w<

[quiet frost]

didnt even add a single spike on them but sure LMFAO

[vocal charm]

?

[runic peak]

NOOO BREAD DOG

[vocal charm]

i was originally going to say "bullet punch a furfrou" but i figured you needed something puppier

[runic peak]

https://tenor.com/view/fidough-picmix-pokemon-bread-gif-9930132837587746877

[vocal charm]

oh, actually-
i don't want to look up the answer, just want a hint
the Stealthy Shadow quest - the tallest point (or whatever the wording is) has to be Prism Tower, and i noticed that its shadow does move at night
the "circle of red and white" has got to be a pokeball, right? so my thinking was when the tower's shadow hits the pokecenter sign, but i can't figure out the "thrusting your fist into the earth" part
am i on the right track?

[charred sage]

||you are on the right track. look for other pokeball images in that general area though.||

||if you're in the correct spot but the wrong time the game will give you an interactable for it like with the farf quest||

not the actual solution but some hints

[runic peak]

creature

[quiet frost]

i wouldnt classify the seeds as spikes really

[quiet frost]

you lucky bastard /lh

[runic peak]

my 3 fav bois in the game

(or 8? )

[vocal charm]

hi random ass shiny buneary who showed up right as I turned a corner

[fathom fog]

https://tenor.com/view/starmie-mega-starmie-pokemon-mega-pokemon-mega-evolution-gif-5067739399007146196

[ocean vapor]

I've got a shalpha fairy donut, any suggestions on what to hunt with it? :3

Was considering garde/kirlia for a few more of those, could be fun to trade for other stuff

[lime void]

Do you have the hammer gremlin?

[ocean vapor]

Nooo but honestly I prefer normal hammer gremlin

Honestly I hate how diancie looks in za

Her diamonds look fucking dull as shit

:(

Wheres my sparkling diva

[runic peak]

asked this before, can somebody help me evolve a shiny haunter?

[quiet frost]

bold of you to assume that falinks would be a he. that is a butch

[runic peak]

oh I didn't think much when sending that lol

ik that falinks is classified as genderless, prob because the leader and troops are different genders

my 3 fav creatures in the game

[gloomy star]

I kinda quite playing za after I bought the dlc

It got too repetitive

[vocal charm]

only one quest to go. and also getting all the legendaries + armarouge and [sigh] milotic

[quiet frost]

wait how did you get multiple mons out at once for a photo?

[lime void]

You don’t have to be a boy to be a boi

[jade ocean]

OK, so the 40% extra Attack for Medicham, Mawile and presumably Starmie represent Huge/Pure Power

So what does the missing 30 BST represent for Zygod?

What sort of drawback ability is it getting?

Because this is what it's implying, isn't it?

[robust wren]

I just imagined that was Gamefreak taking issue with there being a Pokémon with 808 BST

[jade ocean]

I mean just dump the 30 into Attack or something

It's not like anyone is using 100 Attack on Mega Zygod when you have 216 attack and a bulkier form that can use an item with 100 Attack

[jade ocean]

My current main worry about Mega Zygod is that it looks like a Zygod but it simply isn't

And that may make playing vs it difficult

Because in a vacuum it isn't broken tbh

You don't know if you're getting turned into setup fodder or getting nuked

[charred sage]

kinda like the X/Y thing on the mega charizards?

[jade ocean]

Kinda

Except it's a mindgame of Base Zygod vs Mega Zygod

[runic peak]

Benches let you do that

[quiet frost]

THEY DO??

[runic peak]

it lets out your entire team, kinda wish they would let you do that for the za royale pfp

I think it was with smth about hanging out in the bench idk hollup

yeah it's with hang out with your pokemon

[quiet frost]

im so unobservant i never knew that

[runic peak]

peak

[finite totem]

All you need to do is release your starter and use Bois the Heracross

[runic peak]

is bois the heracross' gender set or can it be female

i don't rember its gender i didn't use it much (sorry 🥲)

[jade ocean]

I thinl Bois is always male

I could be wrong and an idiot though

After all I am pretty stupid

[robust wren]

According to the translation sites I've been to, Bois is French for Wood. Which would be an odd choice for a Heracross nickname if true

[runic peak]

wood huh

yeah i prefer bois -> boys the heracross

[jade ocean]

It can also be "drink"

Heracross does like drinking tree sap according to the pokedex so like

Not the most inaccurate name you could give it

Fun fact: Mega Heracross could lift 3 Primal Groudons

Wait I miscounted

31

I missed a 0

Well, assuming the Pokedex isn't speaking out of its ass like usual

Which it probably is tbf

[robust wren]

Normally I would make fun of Gamefreak and its tendency to pull big numbers out of nowhere, but Hercules Beetles IRL can lift some crazy weights relative to their weight too so

[jade ocean]

I mean if you upscaled an ant to human size it wouldn't be able to lift anywhere near as many times its body weight

So like

With that said it is less nonsensical than some others cough cough Mega ||Heatran||

[rose kindle]

can someone tell me how i managed to find 3 shiny orange flebebe, 2 shiny abra, 2 shiny absol, and a shiny riolu before finding shiny dedenne who im actually hunting for

[robust wren]

RNG is a cruel mistress

[lime void]

The same reason why I found 5 shiny Pinsir and still haven’t found the shiny Scyther I’ve been hunting for:

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-gif-21994457

[rose kindle]

truly cruel

i think the worst is when the spawn for the dedenne is shiny, but its the other pokemon that spawns there, is there any location where its dedenne 100% of the time

[robust wren]

I'm genuinely hoping for a Terminalmontage Mega Evolution Battle Royale 2 with how insane some of the new entries such as that are.

[jade ocean]

Mega Heatran is sent out and the world instantly implodes

The end

I wonder if Mega Rayquaza unironically scales below Mega Ttar

Sonce Base Ttar is already very close to Mega Ray in terms of power

At least from game data

[robust wren]

Ttar is supposed to be indestructible according to the dex, but Mega Excadrill can apparently bore through anything. Wonder how that interaction would go.

[charred sage]

dedenne is at least dual-typed so you can force it by looking for a fairy or electric portal and slapping the opposite donut on

[jade ocean]

The Chicxulub Impact is scaled to Country Level, with the Delta Episode meteor being directly comparable to it

[charred sage]

(so fairy donut in an electric portal and vice-versa)

[rose kindle]

i dont have the dlc yet sadly

[jade ocean]

Which thus puts base Rayquaza below Country Level since it needed to Mega Evolve to destroy it and Mega Rayquaza is at least country level

[charred sage]

ah

there's a few rooftop spots you can use for dedenne in that case

[jade ocean]

The VSBattles wiki considers this as "6B"

Meanwhile Ttar is directly stated to destroy mountains with ease

[robust wren]

Vs battles wiki is nonsense

[jade ocean]

Which wpuld be scaled to "7A"

That said mountains is a lot less than countries

So like

Still not that massive of a difference though

We know Base Rayquaza scales below this

So genuinely Base Rayquaza vs Base Ttar is a tossup

[robust wren]

I distinctly remember Vs Battles Wiki saying Reimu Hakurei was infinitely fast for flying across the Sanzu river, claiming it was infinitely wide. It's not. It's variably wide depending on how sinful the person crossing it is. So don't take anything from that site seriously.

[rose kindle]

yeah for a while i was bench resetting near area 18 which is how i got the abras the flebebe and the absols, there is another dedenne near by with blue flebebe i might try to double hunt at but currently im tping to area 16 and climbing up on the roof top at area 12 beacause that spot has 3 dedenne spots

[jade ocean]

I did try to do my own calcs for Chicxulub

And they did seem to actually be about country level

So they're actually right on that one

Unless I also fucked up the calcs lmao

Mega Rayquaza should actually be at country level based on game data alone

Anyways VsBattles scales it to Universal

Because uhh???

Oh my god you won't believe their reasoning for this

Ok so they say Mega Rayquaza is at bare minimum a Galaxy Buster

And is most likely universal

You know how they came to that conclusion?

So, the Delta Meteor in the manga is a lot more dangerous than in the games

And it straight up destroyed Earth

As in turned it into pieces

And as we all know, planets are the same as universes

Thus, Mega Rayquaza universal

[robust wren]

As I said, VS Battles Wiki just says things

Reminds me of when Death Battle said Kratos was faster than light cause he shielded his eyes with his hand

[jade ocean]

They are actually correct about Chicxulub being country level though

That I will give them

Thus you can accurately scale Game Mega Rayquaza to Country level

And Manga Mega Ray should scale to Planetary which would easily put it ahead of the competition

That said, this means that Pdon and Pogre are below country level

Which is funny with how many people scale them to planetary at bare minimum

I guess their hax scale to planetary? Idk

But clearly they don't help in battle if they're getting whooped by base Rayquaza

[vocal charm]

wait wait the ancient greeks has a paradox like this

[quiet frost]

the unstoppable force vs the immovable object

[runic peak]

ttar after realizing both of excadrill's types are super effective against it:

actually though, to make the dex make sense it could be that excadrill's super effective moves can be enough to faint ttar but not really damage it? like it hurts ttar but without any visible damage? Idk
but then excadrill is supposed to destroy anything so idk this is confusing tf out of me 😭 who wrote these entries

[storm bone]

Let’s go finally got shiny terrakion

[vocal charm]

some kid, ig

[runic peak]

Shoutout to the guy that wrote that lanturn dex entry

[robust wren]

In all fairness, how many people were aware of deep waters being able to absorb that much light? Never would have imagined.

[runic peak]

Anyways can somebody help me evolve a shiny haunter

[lime void]

I suppose I could steal… er, I mean, help you evolve your shiny Haunter

[runic peak]

can you do it now or later?

[lime void]

I can do it right now

[runic peak]

Ight

i'm just gonna do a random code

7357 1310

R u jared?

thanks

[unique karma]

I made mimikyu into a beast trust

[quiet frost]

just got 2 shiny pikachu in the span of like 10 minutes

first one was a result of a lv3 electric sparkling power, and the second randomly showed up in wild zone 3 when i was ev training meloetta

[desert current]

https://youtu.be/UkENNPTPgXY?si=6_sG0pav7ZxjRTgc

[opal gull]

juny always cooks

[forest sable]

is anyone willing to battle me

i’m dying from shiny hunting😭 😭 😭

wildzone 20 is killing me

Oooo

shiny alpha helioptile

not my target

but i’ll still take it

[quiet frost]

i keep getting fucking shiny pansear and it's pissing me off

[quiet frost]

my brother has like 5 shiny pidgey

[finite totem]

I have 2 shiny Pidgey spawned and I have no idea where any of them are

[lime void]

How do you know that they’re Pidgeys if you don’t know where they are?

[edgy palm]

So many characters, so little fan art of the underrated ones...

Need more Griselle

[quiet frost]

genuinely considering making a mega luxray concept thats electric/psychic out of pure spite for people who say he should be dark type

[runic peak]

why is my za updating

i wanted to hunt tynamo smh

[lime void]

I don’t think Psychic fits Luxray well either

[quiet frost]

fits it better than dark

x-ray vision sounds pretty psychic to me

[storm bone]

Meltan is in ZA !? The dlc gave more love to gen 7 mythicals then gen 7. It only took 9 years wow

[lime void]

https://tenor.com/view/why-asking-confused-gif-4593721

[robust wren]

Can Meltan even evolve in ZA, or is that still stuck behind GO?

[runic peak]

Why not

https://tenor.com/view/meltan-pokemon-metal-wow-amazing-gif-10253540131993588738

[runic peak]

Don't have the dlc but yeah it can't

[storm bone]

They did a workaround to give you melmetal

[lime void]

Because it’s a legendary Pokémon (mythicals and legendarys are the exact same thing) that meets literally none of the requirements for being legendary, are just as common as Pidgey and Rattata despite supposedly being legendary, it debuted in a bad game, can only evolve in that bad game (through an extremely annoying evolution method at that), had its main series debut in a bad game, and got a g-max form for absolutely no reason (and was one of only 2 Pokémon introduced between Gen 1 and 8 to get one)

[runic peak]

Yeah that's fair

However ignoring all of that I love melmetal

[lime void]

That’s a lot of stuff to ignore

[runic peak]

yeah ik...

i feel like it was just really badly handled by gamefreak because i love mega hex nut's design

https://tenor.com/view/melmetal-heart-socket-gif-25181869

[storm bone]

Oh melmetal new dex entry is so interesting

[runic peak]

oh i haven't seen that

[storm bone]

It was once worshipped for its aptitude to create iron but it mysteriously revived after 3000 years

[robust wren]

Melmetal being worshipped is yet another slash through one of the only classifications that people have used to justify Mythical Pokémon being distinct from legendary ones, that being that they claim that Mythical Pokémon were Pokémon that weren't as revered as legendaries (as if Arceus didn't already deep six that lol)

[runic peak]

30 dollar dlc bur it's good they made a way to get melmetal completely separate from pokemon go

[storm bone]

Can’t evolve and shiny locked but still good

[runic peak]

This was the perfect moment to make meltan be able to evolve in main series though

[lime void]

Forget about how mysterious its revival was, why did it need reviving in the first place

[storm bone]

Because it stopped being worshipped maybe?

But since it got revived does it means it’s a fossil Pokemon?

[lime void]

Let’s Go was the perfect moment to make Meltan be able to evolve in the main series, but that was too much effort IG

[runic peak]

they could have done smth like having a certain amount meltan in your party and when one of them is a high enough level it evolves and the others disappear so it's like they get combined

and like if one of them is shiny or smth and you choose to evolve that one the melmetal becomes shiny and keeps the nature ivs and other stuff

[lime void]

Isn’t that how it evolves in the anime too

[runic peak]

Like that's how meltan evolves in the lore

[storm bone]

That’s how the cutscene to obtain melmetal goes too

[runic peak]

Yeah what I said makes perfect sense with that entry

There would need to be a way to get more meltan without go to make it separate tho

[lime void]

Yet another instance of the dex blatantly lying

[runic peak]

Like in go to get meltans you need a box to make them spawn so smth like that? like make you able to get a special item to make them spawn

with how the dlc works maybe a meltan donut

[runic peak]

oh well, like you said it's too much effort for gamefreak

this melmetal slander is pissing me off

i am the original bucklin

[velvet forum]

Has the blaziken event started yet

[charred sage]

and they want you to play GO of course

[lime void]

And that right there is the entire problem

[storm bone]

No we still are at sceptile

[robust wren]

Funny thing is even GO players probably don't wanna evolve Meltan considering how much of a colossal pain in the ass it is to do so

[storm bone]

They prob only do if shiny

[robust wren]

I would go so far as to call it the absolute worst evo method in the entire series. Worse than trade evos without friends.

Shiny Melmetal is like a C tier shiny anyway

[lime void]

Nah, trade evos are worse, cause they’re literally impossible, but Melmetal’s a close second

[velvet forum]

I just need my shalpha mega chicken and ill forever be happy

Does anyone have a shalpha baby chicken?

[finite totem]

Anything in GO is a pain in the ass to evolve for most places

[forest sable]

Does someone want to battle 🙃

[charred sage]

yea GO very much depends on location, if you're not in a city or an area with a place with something to do it's basically dead for you

(though meltan's evo is one of the few things that at least only relies on you just having a GPS signal at all, alongside HOME)

[vocal charm]

apparently, to increase berry output without mission farming and to increase mega shard capacity at 9999 instead of 999

according to my friend

[runic peak]

i saw, cool

[ocean vapor]

Neat I can finally get all the stupid tms at once

[forest sable]

I wanna battle someone

I need to test the strength of my sparkly team

[autumn willow]

i bonked into a shiny spinarak i love life

[velvet forum]

Ive bonked into 6 shiny spiniraks

i hate them

[quiet frost]

i hadnt gotten a single shiny spinarak and my brother had 2 so he very kindly gifted me one

he also gave me a shiny gogoat, buneary, and excadrill

[rain silo]

Gotta shiny hunt Dedenne eventually

[storm bone]

wdym we meet lebanne's "ex"

[vocal charm]

ah, we meet lebanne's ex
that's probably causing some confusion 😌

[storm bone]

I love making typos

[finite totem]

When are they going to add Mega Player or Gigantamax Player or Playerium Z or option to Terastal player

I want to beat up some people

And I do have a lot of strong moves. I can kick, punch, headbutt, bounce, surf, dive, throw stuff

[unique karma]

My team

[dense tundra]

this is all from the same dimention , you cant make this crap up

[hasty meadow]

That's crazy.

They really do just be giving shines out like candy.

[forest sable]

Only problem is

Those are the rlly bad tasting candies that no body wants

Because I think everyone has enough shiny skiddos

[hasty meadow]

I don't. I don't got the DLC, so to me it's more like a Hershey's bar.

[forest sable]

I mean if they add that, may as well make it so you can use pokemon moves on trainers

Can’t wait to use light of ruin on youngster Joey

[forest sable]

Where r u hunting

I could fr

Use riolu

For a living Dex

[rose kindle]

The riolu I got on the roof by area 12, hold on I'll grab a map

solid circle is where it is, hollow circle is the path to get there

[unique karma]

HOW DO YOU WIN THE BATTLE WITH THE FUCKASS PIKACHU BATTLE, WHY MUST I GET ONE SHOT BY EVERY DIG 😭😭😭

[quiet frost]

i used a level 100 pikachu with perfect evs because it was funny

[forest sable]

Thanks

I’m tryna turn my shalpha goomy into a competitive pokemon

rn

[ocean vapor]

Just use dig right after he uses dig

Then either protect or some other move like iron tail

[ocean vapor]

In retrospect, ZA is rlly pathetic 😭 calling it an open world is not accurate

In all of lumiose, there are only like 12 interiors </3

The buildings all look the same and you can walk around the entire map in like 10 minutes

Not to mention the place that's supposed to be PARIS is like

Dead

Handful of NPCs sprinkled about walking back and forth that's abt jt

[jade ocean]

To be fair, I'd leave my city too if there were 50 million Wild Pokemon moving into it and forcing obstructive wild zones to be made to try and fail to contain them

[ocean vapor]

I get that but like 😭

And there isn't any sound design to talk abt either

[jade ocean]

Tbf though Lumiose still feels like the 2nd or 3rd most populous city in Pokemon, mainly because these cities aren't very populous

[ocean vapor]

Yeah... Thats the issue

For a game series that is supposed to feel "alive" and "sprawling" theres nothing

Lumiose has the same issue paldea had

It's "big", sure.. But there's nothing to fucking do 😭

Just add some interiors to buildings, make them look even slightly different from each other, like hello you HAVE "DISTRICTS" BUT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JAUNE DISTRICT AND ROUGE DISTRICT IS THE FUCKING MANHOLE COVERS

For 70 dollars you can get an infinitely better open world; botw

Fuck you can buy celest AND hollow knight AND silksong

It is not worth it

Legends arceus had the similar issue with open world with not much to find but at least there was something

Ruins with engravings, graveyards ect

[jade ocean]

I feel like you'd still have money to spare after that, too

[prime trail]

meh
we've known pokemon has been lazy for years
thats probably not going to change anytime soon

[ocean vapor]

Yeah probably

[ocean vapor]

Fair but we rlly need to stop being complacent with it

But people has such bad fomo

(Fear of missing out)

[jade ocean]

I should like get Celeste one day because I've heard so much about it and it also has an amazing soundtrack

[prime trail]

Fair
I just got ZA for megas
Other than that I generally play other games

[robust wren]

This is why we need to support the existence of Palworld and also maybe promote stuff like Casette Beasts as well. More competitive market= less complacency

[ocean vapor]

You def should it made me cry BC it resonated so deeply with my own issues

[jade ocean]

I still don't understand why Pokemon and Palworld are compared so much

[ocean vapor]

Celest is a beautiful game

[prime trail]

oh palworld is definately fun
I play that here and there

[ocean vapor]

Bc pokemon is afraid of palworld

[jade ocean]

The only similarities they have is that you can get fictional creatures

[jade ocean]

Yeah, which means they're stupid too

[ocean vapor]

Also something else I have to mention abt lumiose and how small it is

[prime trail]

cuz "catch creature in round container"
they are vastly dufferent games

[jade ocean]

Because it takes a single second to realise that Palworld plays more like Ark than Pokemon

[ocean vapor]

If we compare it to the open world of botw? Lumiose is abt the size of THE PLATEU.

AND IT IS SO MUCH EMPTIER

POKEMON IS THE HIGHEST GROSSING FRANCHISE EVER

They have no fucking excuses

Time crunch? Hire more fucking people there isn't a lack of devs that wanna work for Nintendo/GF

[jade ocean]

From what I've heard, they have been hiring more people recently

[ocean vapor]

Do what the animation studios do- if someone makes a mod or whatever for ur game and it looks rlly good, HIRE THEM don't just fucking sue them?

[robust wren]

Their excuse is "you're gonna buy it anyway" at this point