pokemon-winds-waves

[errant parrot]

Shiny Paris

Latias

[charred sage]

nice, nice, let me see what I have

[errant parrot]

Look at how fast it is

Can you help me finish my Pokédex

[charred sage]

what mons do you need?

[errant parrot]

THATS SO FUNNY

pull it back out

That’s crazy

[charred sage]

all 3 of these are also from different games

(uxie from B2/W2, azelf from OR/AS, mesprit from sword/shield)

[errant parrot]

Wow

I want kyreum black

I need kyruem

[charred sage]

interesting to know you can use kyu- OH RIGHT I forgot rofl

so anyway what do you need for the dex?

[errant parrot]

Lilligant

[charred sage]

I don't have one on hand but I can probably just grab a petilil and sun stone it

[errant parrot]

I hav a sun stone

[charred sage]

I thiiiink a shiny minor just exploded on me rip

at least I have another shiny minor already from gen 7 so I'm not too choked up but

[rustic shell]

is that fish new?

[indigo mango]

Not new. Actually pretty old

It's one of the Movie Pokemon from Black and White

[west smelt]

Hello does anyone want to trade in pokemon scarlet or violet? I just want a feucoco im willing to trade my torchic or dartrix

[indigo mango]

Look up pokemon violet trading codes. It's codes set up by a ytber to trade specific pokemon to get a specific mon. In the starter code it's usually starter for starter

[west smelt]

oh okay thank you!

[west smelt]

but what is the youtuber name though?

[indigo mango]

Don't remember doesn't matter either tho just looking that up should get you stuff. The codes are also on the PokemonScarletVioletTrading reddit

[errant parrot]

Anyone wanna make a union circle

[charred sage]

I can't now but I can tonight

[errant parrot]

Does anyone wanna do a challenge

[charred sage]

well that was a mela fight fore sure in the randomlocke

only one screenshot, you can probably guess what happened.

[calm sun]

What is that

[indigo mango]

It's from this convo where it was referenced in the Pokemon Violet DLC

[indigo mango]

And as said in the message itself. It's a Movie Pokemon from Black and White

[pseudo nest]

Heres another

[indigo mango]

Well i doubt they ever gonna reference that one

[indigo mango]

Mela in School Mode is kinda cute

Brat

[charred sage]

whelp

got 900+ duraludon tarnish while shiny hunting rofl

got two shinies so I can have one arch and one eviolite dural

[charred sage]

gotta love when you just catch a random deerling because a BBQ quest told you to and it has the Rare mark

[rustic shell]

is she the typical rich spoiled "famous" school girl?

and i use "" on famous bc its not true XD

[charred sage]

not quite, mostly because Ortega already fills that niche

[indigo mango]

its Mela

[rustic shell]

Tf she's changed

[indigo mango]

lul

[indigo mango]

man wanted Lunala in a Moon Ball but getting them is all luck based

so i just didnt and threw one Luxury Ball and it got caught

[sand bough]

Gang…

Do the snacks worth legendary Pokémon respawn if you accidentally faint them

Gang

Help

[indigo mango]

Just save before a legendary how is that so hard

[charred sage]

not sure? I can check when I get home

[sand bough]

You have to save😭😭

But do they respawn

Oh they do respawn

[odd cave]

Drip is truly illegal in the academy

[calm sun]

Who hasth ping me

[indigo mango]

Oh that's nice how long is the respawn time

[mystic pumice]

Had a dream where I found a Guide where you can access a secret Hot Spring of the Navi Squad Base ||if you win all of the Atticus Auctions.||

[errant parrot]

Who wants to make a union circle(vc required)

[uncut rain]

Who Can change me lever pokémon in violet

Miraidon and Misdreavus Swalot

Pls

[peak siren]

Can I get 2 ppls help for the sceptile raid?

[vast loom]

I got the game Completed!

[peak siren]

Still seeking ppl to help with the sceptile raid

[charred sage]

I can help once I get things set up at home in about an hour

[charred sage]

@peak siren if you're still here then I can hop on

I'll be bringing a G-weezing with clear smog so if you have an offense mon that'd help

[odd cave]

God damn i keep forgetting about it

Will it appear next weekend as well?

[errant parrot]

Who wants to do a challenge vc required and 2 or 4 people

[errant parrot]

Anyone

[fallen jungle]

anyone willing to trade miraidon with me? I messed up and ended up trading my extra koraidon away so I can't do a code trade anymore and miraidon is literally the only pokemon left to complete the pokedex, I give it back right away

[charred sage]

I can check at 8 to see if I have the miradon or not but I'm also scarlet so I can't grab another if I don't have it.

[fallen jungle]

okay

like I said I'm gonna give it back right away

[charred sage]

@fallen jungle just checked, I do have a miraidon

so I'm up to do the dex-trade whenever you're available

[fallen jungle]

do you mind doing it via pokemon home?

[charred sage]

don't have access to home atm

wait nvm. I don't think we can finish the dex in there though, we'll have to trade in scarlet proper

[fallen jungle]

okay hold on

okay it's gonna be a link trde right?

[charred sage]

yep!

gimmie a sec to get online

alright, online

7628 4517 is the code

[fallen jungle]

ok

aw shit is not gonna work....

[charred sage]

?

[fallen jungle]

I forgot any online connection is a paid priviledge on the switch 🤦‍♀️

[charred sage]

wait hang on isn't home connection online-required too?

[fallen jungle]

yes but I trade pokemon via the phone app then transfer them to scarlet

[charred sage]

strange

...I think I know what I can do

let me see if the alt file I finished the nuzlocke on still has the koraidon available

I can catch that, put that up for a miradon, then trade you that

[fallen jungle]

wouldn't be easier if I add you as a friend in pokemon home and then trade any pokemon for your miraidon then send back?

[charred sage]

I mean step 1's done I caught the second koraidon

we can add tho

[fallen jungle]

okay what's your friend code?

[charred sage]

trying to find that one sec

WVJQUFFGASRJ

[fallen jungle]

it says the code is incorrect?

you know what lemme send mine

VCVPWZVJFYNE

[charred sage]

there we go that worked

(I mixed up the W and V at the start oops)

[fallen jungle]

ooooooh

[charred sage]

I also got the miradon in the middle of that so that's also done

[fallen jungle]

okay friend request confirmed

[charred sage]

aight, starting the request

[fallen jungle]

gonna send you a shiny

[charred sage]

aight

so I'm assuming I'll hold onto this while you transfer into scarlet

[fallen jungle]

okay ready to send Miraidon back

[charred sage]

aight

[fallen jungle]

thank you so much for the help ^^

[charred sage]

you're welcome

[sick narwhal]

master ball for colour coordination💯

[reef canyon]

Also, how did you get extra masterballs?!

[lavish jacinth]

You get one at the end of each dlc

Also if I wanted to, I could transfer Pokémon over with a master ball as a held item

[lavish jacinth]

It’s also M for Mudkip

[sick narwhal]

frr

[sick narwhal]

you can also get them at the item printer (also in the dlc)

yes, theyre renewable

[rustic shell]

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i wanted one :(/

[naive axle]

Anyone with Violet wanting to do some trades? I'm trying to finish filling out my dex, and it's all just Violet exclusives now

[indigo mango]

https://www.dexerto.com/pokemon/pokemon-scarlet-violet-trade-codes-1997432/

[naive axle]

Thanks!

[errant parrot]

Anyone wanna make a union circle

[naive axle]

I'm down if you still wanna do it

[errant parrot]

I have a challenge

Do you have vc

[naive axle]

Yeah

[errant parrot]

Hi

Does anyone wanna join this challenge in Pokémon scarlet and violet with me and @naive axle

[mystic pumice]

Misirlou by Dick Dale makes this Raid Easier with friends

[errant parrot]

Union circle?

[timber crown]

Oh wow I thought I was gonna miss the event cuz im on 10 day vacation. I did bring my switch with ACNH but i forgor to bring my other games lol

Glad to see I can hunt for 23 (including gender differences) shiny pokemon

[charred sage]

meanwhile me just gunning for white tatsugiri

also seven star donbozo with unaware looks like uuuuh

might this finaly be time for the cursed tickle leafeon strat to shine

[indigo mango]

i have alot of games on my switch which isnt that great, always having space issues, wish i boought more of them in physical cards

[green marlin]

What does union circle do

[runic hill]

anyone have a shiny pikachu yet from the event i having no luck once so ever!

[runic hill]

nvm i found one finally!

[runic hill]

Can we put trade request here?

[indigo mango]

i mean if you wanna ask about some trades sure,

can also give you this

https://www.dexerto.com/pokemon/pokemon-scarlet-violet-trade-codes-1997432/

[runic hill]

That might for I need 10-11 pokemon to complete my Dec...

[errant parrot]

I have an idea for a challenge

[runic hill]

What your idea? I am cerious now lol

[errant parrot]

We have colors red orange yellow green blue and purple then we find Pokémon of that color then we battle

[runic hill]

Oooo that does sound fun

I would join but I not good at battles tbh

[north apex]

Let's do it why not

[tall pewter]

Who wants to play and help me with my pokedex all 3, and also js hang out on pokemon

If so just dm me

And add me

Link code for online is N2KGKD

[valid estuary]

Check this out

What should I name it?

[spark temple]

:o does anyone own the Scarlet Version? I need some Pokemon from there and a very Special Tauros as a Shiny

[viscid adder]

Iron Maiden

or Scissorhands

[slim hound]

sure, which ones do yer need?

[spark temple]

There are some that can only be obtained in Scarlet +this one rare Variant of a Tauros

I wanna complete a shiny dex with all of them. The Tauros would be difficult for me since i had to find someone else who would shiny hunt it on Scarlet :'o

[slim hound]

ohh
shiny hunt it-
sorry
dont have that much time
i originally thought you needed the casual non-shiny ones for dex-
sorry :'(

hope you'll be able to find someone tho!!

[spark temple]

Its okay if you only trade the non shiny variants with me. I can shiny breed them myself. That one Tauros tho would be a difficult task

[slim hound]

oh yeah, i could get you that

[spark temple]

That's really nice of you :3

[slim hound]

also sorry it'll take a while
i cant really find any spawns

[slim hound]

got the thing
what is your pokemon home friend code? (so i can send the blaze breed tauros to you)

mine is
KRPGLLCEHLVD

[acoustic igloo]

Them

[spark temple]

I will add you

[slim hound]

kk

[indigo mango]

chocolade and custard

[next estuary]

I LOVE YOU pokemon

[quiet frost]

Hello~ Does anyone know the best way to progress through the game while not being over/underleveled for most stuff including the dlc? I'll be buying scarvio in the next week or so I'm quite curious

[charred sage]

like general tips or a spoilerless level guide?

since the levels in scarvio can get very loopy if you don't take a specificly strange path

[sick narwhal]

Only things that are revealed in the img are the map and faces of the leaders - its just the order of which you should tackle them

And the dlc scales to your level

Not sure if the main game scales to your completion of the dlc tho

[olive panther]

It does not, to my knowledge.

[quiet frost]

are there suggestions for what level to take on each gym/titan? I was planning on doing some gyms around 1-3 maybe first then Teal Mask since I heard they scale up to around level 30 and then leaving Indigo Disk for Post-Game

[sick narwhal]

idk

[charred sage]

I can make a quick spoiler-free level guide when I get home

[quiet frost]

I'd appreciate that a lot thanks!

[safe hull]

ngl pokemon Home would help out a lot wit this
particularly mobile version

tossing out a violet exclusive in return for a scarlet exclusive is very effective

[spark temple]

I got that Tauros now. I need to see how to get a shiny Variant of it

[safe hull]

Ab

[charred sage]

online raids can also sometimes have exclusives too. I know that's how I got my water tauros

[sick narwhal]

masuda method it

foreign ditto + tauros in a picnic

you need an egg power dish iirc

[spark temple]

I can only get the Violet Variant out of this trick but the Scarlet one will be impossible :'o

[sick narwhal]

Huh, really??

[slim hound]

hey uhh
just asking for the shiny odds for the event shiny mass outbreaks (shiny charm+ no shiny charm all 60 pokemon killed)

[slim hound]

tysm

[timber crown]

Tatsugiri knows no self damaging moves right

[safe hull]

well it learns memento at 34 but ive never seen a single tatsugiri use it

[indigo mango]

really?

most of them use it for me

[sick narwhal]

Imprison chandelure can stop it

[safe hull]

makes sense

[sick narwhal]

Just make sure the chandelure also has memento

Ofc others work as well, they just need both moves

[charred sage]

I think it's something that's only on one of a specific level?

also I'd imagine that taunt can also stop it but you'd have to re-apply it every time taunt ran out

[timber crown]

Wooo i found a curly form shiny tatsugiri

2 more shines

Shiny droopy form caught

Stretchy one has been caught aswell

Also these

yesterday and the day before that

[rustic shell]

Sushi

[indigo mango]

Well yes that's what they are

Even have a piece of rice on there body

[viscid adder]

the tatsugiri shinies are by far the most creative shinies I had ever seen in the entire game

I mean, basing the shinies off of different sushi types? peak.

so peak.

[timber crown]

First one is just fish and gravy

😀

fr

[viscid adder]

it's actually based on eel nigiri

which has this more baked top

actually, tatsugiri and dondozo are just peak

[timber crown]

pokemon are peak

[viscid adder]

peak in various ways

[indigo mango]

Should have evolved into Dondozo

[timber crown]

Wanna name another pokemon ( check #other-pokemon-games )

[viscid adder]

Ah silverr
the one with the hot takes

[indigo mango]

How

[timber crown]

But its a good take tbh

[tawdry flame]

its tongue turns into a sushi board?

[viscid adder]

yep!
that's because its based off a sushi chef

[indigo mango]

Same body type and both related to sushi

[viscid adder]

but then its gimmick will be useless!

[indigo mango]

It would have just been changed

[timber crown]

❌

U could leave an unevolved tatsugiri

[indigo mango]

I dunno how it's so hard for people to understand changes. If I say it would be better like this then it would also be changed to work that way. Same with the stats

[timber crown]

Look at this beautiful video

[viscid adder]

yeah, only problem.
it aint a fish

it's a dragon

[timber crown]

FALSE dragon

[viscid adder]

tatsugiri is supposed to be the brains while dondozo is the brawn

[timber crown]

false usually also means fake

[viscid adder]

it's a title for a titan pokemon.
Not an indicator of what it actually is

[timber crown]

bu-but you

[viscid adder]

Also, False Dragon could indicate that it was using Dondozo as the "dragon"

[timber crown]

Isnt dondozo also called the false dragon titan

[viscid adder]

yes

because Dondozo is not a dragon

[timber crown]

but u say tatsugiri is a dragon because it is called the same as dondozo...

[viscid adder]

Dondozo is a water type that just so happens to have a dragon type move

[charred sage]

I'm glad there's an actual image for context because I first thought tatsugiri was based on something far worse when the game first came out

[timber crown]

what

[viscid adder]

no

[charred sage]

||parasitic tongue louses|| (cw: gross wildlife)

but yea I figured out otherwise quickly thankfully

[viscid adder]

dondozo is the false dragon titan because dondozo is initially thought to be the titan, when it was actually the small tatsugiri

[timber crown]

....wasnt it VERY obvious???

Its (something that looks like) a fish
On white(rice)

[viscid adder]

the rice is actually its little throat sack

[timber crown]

shut up

bye

[charred sage]

also shoutouts to my randomlocke that gave me a giri with storm drain

[viscid adder]

well that was rude

not you

pokemon knowalot

[charred sage]

yea I know that's in a battle animation but I forget which

[timber crown]

no need to be a nerdy person about everything

👍

[viscid adder]

actually it's not!

[timber crown]

thats the ability of dondozo

Not the pokemon tatsugiri

[viscid adder]

uhhh no

[charred sage]

also yea I do like this lil detail even if it means I still need to get the other two kinds

[viscid adder]

it is not

That's tatsugiri's ability

Dondozo does not have Commander

[timber crown]

fine

[timber crown]

It is tatsugiris ability

Not tatsugiri the pokemon

[charred sage]

LOL

actually

[charred sage]

is the current tier 7 dozo the first tier 7 raid that doesn't have its hidden ability?

(aside from iron bundle which doesn't have one go begin with)

[viscid adder]

hang on a mo

YEP

[charred sage]

legit thought unaware was dozo's HA rofl

[viscid adder]

for the first time ever, we have a 7 star mon that doesn't have its hidden ability

[charred sage]

makes sense since unaware is pretty big while water veil is uuuh

[viscid adder]

yeah water veil is hyper specific
unaware is more broad and more dangerous

[charred sage]

actually another dozo fun fact:

discounting alt forms, dondozo is the third tallest (longest?) pokemon we have behind wailord and etern

[viscid adder]

That is a true statement

Especially considering that Wels catfish (the species of fish that Dondozo is based on) are really chonky boys

the actual largest wels catfish isn't as large as Dondozo, but still

[indigo mango]

Why you replying to my comment about people not getting that stuff would obviously be changed by not getting that stuff would be changed

Besides there is no fish type so yes due to what its based on it is a fish pokemon

[viscid adder]

But its mostly a dragon that looks like a weak little fish

It's dragon type first.

not water type first

also, I had never seen a pokemon that evolved to becoming a single type

and no, mega evolutions do not count

also, the reason why I replied to you is because you don't get the concept behind dondozo and tatsugiri

its based on the brains and brawn duo

and subverts the expectation involving a sushi chef and the sushi he prepares

plus, dondozo has order up, a signature move that is based on the kind of tatsugiri that is controlling him

plus, the stat spread makes zero sense if it was an evo.

like, a weak special attacker trading for a bulky offense?

no matter how you change it, it makes zero sense

this argument is just as stupid as the "oh! dunsparce should evolve into drampa" argument.

If you are going to give dondozo a pre-evo, you make it a sushi chef novice. You don't make it the pokemon that's a dragon type first and a water type second.

Just because they are related to sushi and fish doesn't mean that they should evolve into one another

I rest my case.

[indigo mango]

Again ignoring everything I said. Which is that they obviously be changed to work as evolutions

I am talking specifically only design wise

Dondozo works as its evo rather then both being without one

[indigo mango]

Sushi becoming a Sushi Chef

Def works

[prime moss]

tatsugiri and dondozo are designed as a thematic pair the way zangoose and seviper or plusle and minun or volbeat and illumise are, just weirder. one's a sushi mafia boss dragon/parasitic tongue-replacing isopod, one's a sushi chef catfish/mafia muscle guy that could be mistaken for a dragon. if one evolved into the other it'd ruin the point. that said, a novice sushi chef dondozo prevo and a sushi roll tatsugiri evo would both be adorable /late

[tacit raven]

I don't remember seeing anything about Tatsugiri being parasitic. If anything, it's more symbiotic with Dondozo, especially with the stat buff it gets just from the Tatsugiri.

[charred sage]

late but obligatory "you say that but archduraludon exists"

[charred sage]

yea that was me assuming after I saw it early on, I corrected myself quickly

[charred sage]

see also: luvdisc and alomomola being two different concepts that ended up at a very similar point visually

[viscid adder]

plus, I kinda see them as a great example of real life convergent evolution

[prime moss]

it's not, but it's based a little bit on an isopod that replaces a fish's tongue

[karmic escarp]

Bellossom

[viscid adder]

https://tenor.com/view/clap-slow-clap-congratulations-you-won-well-done-gif-17650882150931687505

[inland prawn]

man scarlet and violet event pokemon are kinda lame

its just 7 star raid pokemon

gimmie some mythical pokemon

i never got this dumb dmb

[viscid adder]

gonna be honest... you are right

now that the dlc is out, there really is no need to get those evos that have their hidden abilities

we can just farm ability patches and slap them on that way

The seven star thing works better when there is a rare ass pokemon that needs to be captured

Like Walking Wake and Iron Leaves

[inland prawn]

I miss when they gave Pokémon moves that they normally can’t have

Or just yah know some legendaries or mythical would be nice too

[viscid adder]

Considering that they have a couple of mythicals in the game data... I say that they should implement it.

Meloetta can't be the only mythical here that can be caught and named

...plus its rare to find the OG guys when it is littered with shinies

[inland prawn]

Are there other mythical besides that peach

[viscid adder]

I had to ASK a dude if I can have a regular Jirachi

[inland prawn]

Or is it just previous mythical

[viscid adder]

...actually, I find it kinda interesting that celebi is not on the list.

...

Could that pokemon be vital to Pokemon Legends: ZA's plot?

[inland prawn]

I doubt it

Tho it would be nice for mythicals to be actually apart of games instead of just gifts

[viscid adder]

I mean, if Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde are MIA, and they are in ZA, then Celebi has to be too!

[inland prawn]

Well I guess the peach was apart of sv so I guess they are doin better

More stuff like that pls

i need that stupid little Zarude complete my national dex

[viscid adder]

Those furfrou stocks are gonna plummet lol

in pokemon home, I mean

[inland prawn]

lmao

well ur gonna get ur favorite fashionable doggy next year

in ZA

mega Furfrou in fact

[inland prawn]

everyone was too busy looking at all the black and white hints lol

which admittedly was alot

[tawdry flame]

I honesty forgot that keldeo was available in Gen 9

[timber crown]

Anyone wanna go into a union circle to do BBQs? I want to unlock the legendaries

[charred sage]

I can later today in about 8 hours from now, but not right now

[inner bay]

i got an antique form sinistea outbreak

so i spent like an hour and a half hunting for a shiny in it

and i finally got it

[errant parrot]

First person to reply to me gets a free legendary of their choice

Pretty cool bot shiny

[indigo mango]

meh its a website one tho, i always trade those away again

wel first i take any item its got

usually they have abbility patches

[charred sage]

I always just release those

[viscid adder]

I get the items and then just yeet them

Ability Patches and Master Balls are valuable thingies

[tacit raven]

Same

They're a great source of rare items, but not much else

[tall pewter]

Does anyone here have a let's go game

[timber crown]

Oh sorry that I didn't see this

Could you possibly ping me next time? I don't always check this channel and when I don't get pinged I assume no one replied👍
..and then I check the next day I see someone replied but no ping...

[vague crane]

i have lets go pikachu

[mild pagoda]

Welcome to this totally new channel to discuss the upcoming Legends ZA game. Please keep all spoilers in this channel.

[mild pagoda]

create channel, immediately sees spoilers

[plucky escarp]

to be fair, you made it so non-mods couldnt chat here 😛

[plucky escarp]

and apparently i cant fix it, so over to you

[plucky escarp]

[mild pagoda]

My bad lol

[hardy cypress]

YOO

[opal gull]

mega tyrantrum when

[tame wraith]

Im so glad Hawlucha got a mega

[hardy cypress]

||who like the new megas!||

[jade ocean]

Are leaks allowed here or only spoilers

[opal gull]

dk but if you do discuss leaks please please spoiler tag

gotten spoiled on both reveals so far smh

[little nacelle]

tbf both spoils were GF's fault

first mentioning Mega Victreebel in the description of its reveal video BEFORE IT EVEN PREMIERED

and then doing the machamp vs hawlucha short...

and right after, uploading a "Behind the Pokemon: Hawlucha"

hmmm surely the special attention to hawlucha and NOT machamp would mean machamp gets the mega

[cloud shale]

the Machamp/Hawlucha battle was awesome obv but also that animation looked great kudos to whoever worked on it

[hardy cypress]

tbh if you dont want spoiler just avoid watching your fav pokemon youtubers after z-a release

i argee the trailer was amazing!

[cloud shale]

I don’t want spoilers but also I don’t have a switch so I guess I’ll just live with it 🤷

[hardy cypress]

ohh any plans on getting a switch?

[odd moat]

So I assume mega hawlucha ain't getting added to the dex until after ZA releases because I'm working on a sprite rn

[cloud shale]

nah that’s not in my budget

1. what’s really the point of a switch now that the switch 2 exists
2. bro im not paying that much nice try nintendo

[hardy cypress]

i have switch 2 bcs i mainly play pokemon, hardcore fan of the games

[drowsy veldt]

||I'm spoiling it. A 10 year old beats up local bad team.||

[daring finch]

Wrong

So wrong

Wow

Its actually about ||cheese||

[opal gull]

we dont have megas in this game to begin with

[odd moat]

I know but a lot of the self fusions are ''megas'' no?

[opal gull]

thats added when people make em

[odd moat]

So charizard x charizard because mega charizard, or is not everything on the infinite dex ingame

[opal gull]

theres nothing to add gameside

it's just a sprite appearance

it doesnt change stats

[molten pine]

M Hawlucha is so ugly

[odd moat]

I know but I was wondering because I made a mega hawlucha sprite, but if that's still spoiler territory I doubt it'll get added

[opal gull]

theres already victreebell ones

[odd moat]

Oh in that case lmao

[meager lynx]

Mega Hawlucha looks rad ngl

[warm knot]

Is it just me or are these new megas kind of lame

Maybe I just hate new things but I don't really like these new megas

[meager lynx]

It’s just you

I love them all

[warm knot]

This is very sad

Thankfully I wasn't gonna play legends za anyway

[meager lynx]

Dragonite’s majestic, a really good Hermes reference
Victreebell is fucking hilarious
And Hawlucha is literally Rey Mysterio

10/10 designs

[cloud shale]

Dragonite is lame, Victreebel is a matter of taste, and Hawlucha is in contention for best mega of all time

[warm knot]

Is Hawlucha eally that good? It just feels kind of basic

[meager lynx]

Personally I think of the three, Hawlucha is the weakest

[warm knot]

Like it's not bad by any means but it feels kind of boring

Victreebel is kind of ugly but its grown on me, and Dragonite just feels kind of lazy

Well there's still more megas to be added so we'll see

[cloud shale]

dude he’s got dope gold emblems and he’s swole

[warm knot]

I just hope they keep some secrets for when the game comes out

[warm knot]

You're right, I didn't really notice the gold sparkle until just now

[cloud shale]

I guess I am partially just super hyped because we have a legit gen 6 mega (sorry Diancie you only count for like half of one)

[warm knot]

It's growing on me

[meager lynx]

Dragonite is awesome, idk what y’all are talking about

[warm knot]

I don't like the ear wings they don't work on Dragonite like they do on Dragonair

[meager lynx]

It’s a really good Hermes reference, the head wings are imposing and the gem in the tail looks dope

[cloud shale]

it’s a) I already don’t like Dragonite all that much and b) the ear wings are just such a mid way of tying back into Dragonair

it just doesn’t work for me

[meager lynx]

Maybe it’s just me thinking on it as fusion material, but it is dope

I fused it with mega Camerupt the other day and I loved them

[storm bone]

yay

[warm knot]

Wow sprite artists are fast wtf

I feel like a neat way to make it seem more like Dragonair was maybe making the tail or body much longer and snake-like

But I don't know how good that would really look

[meager lynx]

The tail is way longer tho

[cloud shale]

yeah I think as fusion material there’s big potential for mega dnite but as a standalone it just does not work for me

[warm knot]

Oh I didn't notice

I guess I understand pokemon designers now and why they don't often make new evolutions/forms, it's hard to come up with a satisfying new idea for an existing pokemon

[cloud shale]

coming up with a satisfying idea for Dragonite is easy

step 1: make it blue
step 2: profit

[meager lynx]

The head wings and semi wings on shoulders and ankles are a reference to Hermes, Greek speed god, which makes sense for Dragonite, specially considering that Hermes’ staff had two snakes, so the only thing that could have improved the reference was for it to have two tails, but that would have been overdesing at that point

[meager lynx]

Making it blue was so basic tho

[cloud shale]

ok but it looks so much better

[meager lynx]

Nah, would be a really big design regression

[cloud shale]

I don’t know how fan artists are this fast but seriously this is so cool

[meager lynx]

It’s based of a myth that says that when a sea snake achieves 100 years old, a pearl would fall from the sky, and if it catches it, it’ll transform into a dragon

Making it blue would make that idea weaker

[meager lynx]

I honestly don’t like it, looks like a Dragonair/Dragonite fusion

[warm knot]

I think the shiny Mega Dragonite is blue

[spare roost]

imagine if it was pink to furthur showcase its relation to dragonair

or it'll just follow dragonite and be puke green

[novel atlas]

Imo mega hawlucha fucks immensely

Like, I think mega dragonite is fine, but the victreebel and hawlucha rock

[meager lynx]

Personally, even tho I really like mega Hawlucha, I have a problem with the color palette

The green contrasts too much with the gold, and feels like if it just put a chest plate and a mask

BUT

If the wings were black instead of green

That would be rad

Turning the color palette into Black, White, Gold and Red would have work perfectly

[shrewd hearth]

Hey hero in 5 seconds can U please ping me here I need to test smth

[meager lynx]

@shrewd hearth sure

[shrewd hearth]

Thx I was trying to find this channel on mobile

[meager lynx]

Anyways, I still love the design, it just could have used an improved palette

It’s literally just Rey Mysterio and I love that

[radiant otter]

mega hawlucha looks so good man

one of my favorite pokemon of all time getting a mega🙏🙏

[novel atlas]

I bet the shiny will be insane

[meager lynx]

Definitely

[fickle birch]

Agreed, it should have removed the green and orange. 😅

[meager lynx]

Yea

It still looks dope tho

[fickle birch]

For sure, and I bet its animations will give it a lot of personality. Even regular Hawlucha's walking one was great in the trailer. 🙂

[meager lynx]

Yeeeees

Can’t wait to do Mega Camerupt/Mega Hawlucha and the reverse

[cloud shale]

just try being colorblind

that’ll fix it

[raven condor]

Don’t mind me, just passing through

[raven condor]

WAIT A SECOND

https://tenor.com/view/disguise-hawlucha-pokemon-wrestler-gif-25733623

IT WAS IN FRONT OF US ALL ALONG

[raven condor]

[indigo mango]

can we move this chat under hoenn it looks so weird under off topic

anyway, i kinda hate how you can barely see much difference in the game with hawlucha, the artwork shows that the mega is much bulkier and thiccer but you cant much tell in the game

[indigo mango]

that was something i immediatly was like "why is it covered in piss now"...BUT seeing the gameplay its not as bad, the mask looks so much betetr without all the sparkling gold

def better looking without the sparkles

[meager lynx]

Hawlucha is now a pissman confirmed

[light agate]

I just want to know what’s with the feather loincloth.

Rest of the design is peak though.

[spare roost]

pen15

[rustic rapids]

after a bit of looking at it

yeah I LOVE mega dragonite

RAHHHH

[minor bear]

the fact i havent seen one of these hit spritework yet is astonishing

[rustic rapids]

I would even go to say

[minor bear]

unless i missed a post

[rustic rapids]

anyone who says it isn't good

never liked dragonite

I JUST WANNA PET IT ASDNGKJANSDJKNASDG

[rustic rapids]

I saw one in another server lol

[rustic rapids]

the only thing I don't like about it is the weird pure green wings

[plucky escarp]

heres hoping it gets the gengar treatment and gets a whole new shiny colour when mega'd

[rustic rapids]

PINK PINK PLEASE PLEASE

THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT COULD MAKE IT BETTER

It might become my favorite mega ngl

[odd moat]

I finished one but I saw smtn about needing to make 3 sprites before you can submit stuff, or is that only for the spriter role?

[minor bear]

you can post in spritework without it you just cant post to gallery

great job btw your shapes are nice

[odd moat]

Thanks, I tried modifying a regular hawlucha sprite at first but I decided to do it from scratch since mega hawlucha is a lot more uhh, triangular?

I dunno how to describe it, man's swole

[odd moat]

Btw do I need to give to file a special name? didn't see a pin on how to format your posts in spritework

Maybe I just lack reading comprehension but I didn't see it 🙇‍♂️

[indigo mango]

im assuming sicne its a mega you are gonna make it a double fusion, so just create a post inm spriteworks called like Hawlucha/Hawlucha (456.456)

[indigo mango]

and if you are asking how to name the image itself then name it 456.456

[odd moat]

Ah ok thanks

[indigo mango]

oh sicne you havent posted it yet, since its a new mega its a spoiler so make sure to spoiler the sprite

[odd moat]

Just in time, thanks

It says I have half pixels but I made sure every pixel is 3x3, how does it register what's a half pixel or not, I'm confused

[indigo mango]

no idea, could try the tutorial mode or ask in the chat thats at the top of the spritework

thats where you get to the chat

[odd moat]

Thanks, also I figured it out, it needs to be aligned to a specific grid which mine weren't

[hazy knot]

oh nice , new channel

here's sprite i made for mega ||victreebel||

which it doesnt have to be spoilered obviously but still

[odd moat]

I love it it's so cute

[lyric stratus]

For me mega lucha is the weakest of the 3 new ones

[hushed ibex]

imagine if sandslash got a mega so I could make cool fusions with it and all other megas

[hazy knot]

I feel like other than mega victreebel being the best pokemon to ever exist, dragonite and hawlucha are pretty even. love them both and did have an idea for a fusion between the two but unfortunately i don’t have enough skill for a mega drago

[hushed ibex]

mega hawlucha is so friggin peak

https://tenor.com/view/hawlucha-pokémon-pokémon-legends-z-a-lumiose-city-kalos-gif-15886381934412581732

[hazy knot]

true, the aura is insane was first introduced to it through this channel and thought it was fake or something

[hushed ibex]

I really liked the animation they released with it

so much aura and the one time hawlucha & its trainer are cute

[hazy knot]

i always liked hawlucha but the mega is perfect for it imo

[hushed ibex]

yess

hawlucha is a peak fusion mon and generally a lil guy

[meager lynx]

Oh yea Mega Hawlucha is peak

[hushed ibex]

hero you just like watching half naked fighting men pics

[hazy knot]

can’t wait for the hawlucha/camerupt sprite

[hushed ibex]

please game freak give sandslash a mega that would be so nice of you💔

mega sandsalsh and it just turns into a spike ball

[hazy knot]

they probably wont give it one but that would be cool

i say that because of the alolan form

obviously they might but theyre probably doing gen 1 mons with nothing, and gen 5 and 6 mons

[hushed ibex]

uhh give alolan form a mega

[hazy knot]

two mega for the price of two mega

[hushed ibex]

mega sandslash and it's just kantonian and alolan ones mushed together

[hazy knot]

paradox form

[main hearth]

Honestly no matter how nice howlucha is and boring dragonites is to me

Victreebel is layers of awesome as a mega imo
Its goofy and friendly looking
Horrifying biological implications
And its reveal was awesome

[hazy knot]

true

[meager lynx]

Wdym? Thats literally Mega Hawlucha

It’s called Rey Mysterio

One of the most famous luchadores

[meager lynx]

Galarian Slowbro tho

[hazy knot]

yeah but i feel like this is different, wasn’t saying it was impossible or anything

[meager lynx]

I don’t get why people don’t like mega Dragonite

Is dope

It’s literally Hermes the mega

[hazy knot]

I love all of the megas so far, and i agree. can’t compete with my goat victreebel but it’s a solid mega with a great concept

[meager lynx]

And it’s really good fusion material

Just look how good mega material they are

[hazy knot]

that color palette on the victreebel head is gorgeous

[meager lynx]

And yea Hawlucha is now top of the list, aside from Glalie cause I already did one and need to do the reverse

[meager lynx]

I edited it a bit if irc

But yea it’s like 90% still yours

[hazy knot]

I’m sure the original was also gorgeous

[meager lynx]

Just changed a bit the browns and added an orange, and the purples

[hushed ibex]

it only got wings on its head which terastalization was already doing..
just a very plain design for a mega

[hazy knot]

it’s also got the pearl on the tail and the extra feathers, I don’t see how most other megas are too different. I mean Zard X just changes colors and breathes fire

[hushed ibex]

bro middle school me was so impressed by charizard

[meager lynx]

The tail is longer, got a pearl in there, got fake wings on the shoulders and heels

And the belly pattern helps sell the speedy idea

[hazy knot]

just realized I said Z

[arctic pendant]

My problem with dragonite is he is a more western cartoon dragon coming from a line of very eastern dragons. And I really wish the mega played off of that cultural dynamic and leaned into one of those archetypes more. Like what would a dragon that started eastern, went western, then returned to an eastern style look like?

[meager lynx]

It’s based on Hermes and the design represents it really well

[hazy knot]

I can see how that would’ve been cool

I just think it’s good as is though personally

[meager lynx]

Head wings and longer tail also gives it a really unique silhouette

[arctic pendant]

True!

[hushed ibex]

(I didn't even noticed that something was wrong)

[meager lynx]

I think it’s mostly cause of the legend it is based off, a sea snake than when living 100 years old can evolve into a dragon if catching a pearl that felt from the sky, so the changes from eastern dragon to western dragon was made to make it different enough

[hazy knot]

that’s probably because you already know zard z will be a thing in legends z-a

[arctic pendant]

I did hear you or someone say that before, which is really cool.

[forest egret]

I like him. I think yeah he's got the Rey Mysterio mask, and also a little bit of Ultimo Dragon in him with the mantle on his shoulders

[main hearth]

Knowing mega howlucha is designed on and referencing more then one actual famous luchadore might actually put it higher to me for mega designs

[hushed ibex]

nah it's because I forgot what letters mega charizard even got and knew which one you was talking about by the description 😭

[hazy knot]

uh huh

[hushed ibex]

bro what they evn gotta do for charizard Z

or mewtwo Z

mega zygarde🤤

[hazy knot]

pink bug/flying type

duh

another thing they could do is cut off the wings and sell it as “giving it charmander features”

[lime void]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-how-about-no-austin-powers-gif-17640212

[hazy knot]

you wouldnt get it

[lime void]

I get that Charizard has already received way too much special attention

[warm knot]

mega mewtwo z

[hazy knot]

you wouldnt get it

[sacred harbor]

Have you seen the leak 😭 it looks so goofy I hope it’s fake

[forest egret]

I agree. I don't think its green contrasts in a bad way, but I would've liked to see black wings. I also think that I would've liked if the ridges on his mask were longer

[hushed ibex]

Nah haven't seen the leaks

[forest egret]

Spoiler that

[meager lynx]

Delete that

[sacred harbor]

Mmmmmmmmmm mb

[meager lynx]

Leaks need to be spoilered and you need to say it’s a leak

[hushed ibex]

I got 0.0001 seconds of mega zygarde

[sacred harbor]

Leak

[hazy knot]

mega zygarde with a ||nuclear bomb|| isnt real it cant hurt you

[forest egret]

Shitty ass edit with my finger but if he was like this it would've been perfect

[hazy knot]

ok but that is fire

plus color reduction

[sacred harbor]

I lowkey like the green outline tho if it was more consistent

[forest egret]

(Perfect to me, some people might prefer his green)

[forest egret]

Green on the tips could be nice

[hazy knot]

i like the green but black is better imo. also you shouldnt keep the green on the outline unless its added to some other part of the design imo, its kinda a pokemon thing to not have unnecessary colors

on megas its fine but yeah

[sacred harbor]

Well ya shinys just change colors not adding new patterns but I’m just saying the green red black combo goes hard

[hazy knot]

i wasnt talking about shinies

[hushed ibex]

uhh no I think that would be peak design

[hazy knot]

and i agree, just it would be a bit complicated if the wings were black with only green on the outline

[hazy knot]

NO WAY. ITS PEAM

[forest egret]

Damn charizard z leak

[sacred harbor]

Mb thought that mega was a guess on the shiny of mega halucha

[hazy knot]

i wouldnt mind if mega hawlucha kept shiny hawlucha colors for the most part, it has a pretty cool shiny. i have one in pokemon violet

[sacred harbor]

Are you guys gonna look at the new starter megas/region forms before picking them or just pick and then be surprised

[hushed ibex]

we're all picking chikorita💔

[hazy knot]

i would much rather be surprised but i plan on being a common visitor to this server and others, so not possible

[sacred harbor]

Hella naw

[hazy knot]

im probably gonna pick whatever pin i get from that thing

even though i really want emboar

[sacred harbor]

Ima pick totadile prob unless it’s new form or gimmick thing is ah

[sacred harbor]

1/3 you get the pin trust you got this

Also won’t it be in the wild anyway, I didn’t play legends arceues but I thought you could 100% it offline basically

[hazy knot]

im pretty sure im gonna want mega victreebel in my team, and i might want hawlucha too. not sure how megas are gonna work but ill probably just alternate between megas

[sacred harbor]

Ya idk from watching like vids it seems it’s like a meter instead of you can just do it whenever

[hazy knot]

yeah i saw that part

[sacred harbor]

Wondering if because of that if you won’t have to hold the megastone as the held item or if your able to do it multiple times per battle because it’s timed

[warm knot]

Is this the leaked mega?

It kind of looks like ||A big robot being lifted by a blimp||

evangelion style

[tepid flame]

Oh hey this is a channel now

[warm knot]

Indeed

[tawdry flame]

a MEGA new channel of course

[warm knot]

Guilty as charged

[little dove]

Its giving rayquaza on the legs which tickles my neuron passageways

[warm knot]

What about it gives rayquaza

[little dove]

The legs

The hexagons in a chain that resemble rays ringed markings

[warm knot]

Oh yeah I guess so

I think it looks like a ||big scary robot being airdropped and that looks cool||

[little dove]

Yeah def that too

[fickle birch]

This would make it 11/10 for me. 😄

[meager lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-turn-mr-fantastic-and-thing-mr-fantastic-2015-fantastic-four-2015-miles-teller-gif-14989446712125729322

[leaden summit]

[boreal turtle]

goomornin

new channal

[warm knot]

goon mornin

[hushed ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-vro-blue-heart-seal-gif-6746946467893389225

[azure ridge]

just here to love dump all the new megas to maintain balance ❤️

[hushed ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-rain-world-police-vulture-gif-27507580

[azure ridge]

you know what the funny part is?

[hushed ibex]

Whar

[azure ridge]

deviantart is actually being NICER to the new megas

than discord

[hushed ibex]

bro deviant art is nice to anything that they can draw v*re and feet of

[hazy knot]

haters never win

[azure ridge]

deviantart is a cesspool of hate is what im getting at, and if even THEY like the new megas, thats saying something

[hazy knot]

pretty stacked line-up so far. weakest is dragonite imo but that one has a fun concept and all

[azure ridge]

angel ❤️

[hazy knot]

mega hawlucha except idek what im doing anymore

might try the beartic strategy

[hushed ibex]

Have yall heard about a game called pokemon infinite fusion

it's pretty cool

[hazy knot]

whats that

[hushed ibex]

there is uhh a pokemon named fusion

[azure ridge]

lol

[hushed ibex]

and there is infinite of them

[azure ridge]

i dunno... i heard stuff 😉

[odd kernel]

would be better to show an actual gameplay fight between them

[forest egret]

They released in-game footage of it at the end of the reveal

[hushed ibex]

You not gonna believe it

https://youtu.be/Xt4ccSMw870?si=Wm6ezkrDj3fz7zm-

[tepid flame]

Oh I didn't know the release date until now

[odd kernel]

they did? i havent watched since the first announcement

[tepid flame]

2 months from now is pretty crazy

[hushed ibex]

Yes, I linked it

[odd kernel]

yes i noticed

the animation makes more sense now, gameplay "real time battle" looks worse and less fluid than Palworld

[tepid flame]

Don't worry gabe I'm sure Switch 2 will flop anyday now when that game releases

[forest egret]

Dude's stanced up in the animation

[tepid flame]

Chat is this farming aura

[forest egret]

Aura farmer vs aura farmer

[forest egret]

Does pokemon not have a precident of making non-game animations for their teasers

It's not like that's unusual for games in general

[tepid flame]

I'm remembering the Witcher 4 trailer

None of the things in that trailer are real game footage lol

[forest egret]

To be honest, I think he just said all that so he could segue into saying the game looks like shit

I would've just said it outright

[azure ridge]

Good ol Pokemon fans, claim to love Pokemon, then turn around and call it worse than literal AI slop. Gotta love it all

[forest egret]

I mean I'm not that interested in the game myself

I wanna see new pokemon and I don't gotta buy/play the games to do that so I'm all good on skipping

I can just look at hawlucha from afar

[tepid flame]

@forest egret Nooooo you mean this guy no way 😱

[azure ridge]

sigh just gotta wait a few months, then it'll die down... just gotta hack it

[tepid flame]

I'm just excited to see if the leak that so far has gone 3 for 3 is in fact legit

[forest egret]

You can call nintendo games bad without making yourself also kinda look like an idiot yeah? "This game looks like shit" vs pretending to not know what a teaser is and all that

[azure ridge]

they came around to raging bolt, theyll do the same here

[forest egret]

I also like the 3 mega designs they've shown

[tepid flame]

I'm not into Mega Victreebel

It veers a bit too

I don't wanna really say it but its reminiscent of an outdated stereotype

Not directly but yknow

[forest egret]

Victreebel is ok. He looks a little better when he opens his mouth

[azure ridge]

i dunno i think thats a reach tbh

i like his goofy face

[tepid flame]

That's why I said reminiscent

[forest egret]

I like how he bounces around

[tepid flame]

But you see it a lot in old Japanese media back then

Especially the old comics from Tezuka lol

[tepid flame]

I like the other two a lot though

Mega Dragonite especially is very inspired

"But it's just two wings on his head!" yes he doesnt need more

[azure ridge]

exactlt

he is angel

[tepid flame]

And no fellas turning it into a bigger Dragonair is not based

[azure ridge]

coughPFQcough

[tepid flame]

Why is my boy so lanky Q what have you done to him

They givin him anorexia, this cannot stand

[azure ridge]

and thats just the tip of the PFQ doing crappy things iceberg

the mods are...shall we say... not ok on that site

like former members made a TUMBLR BLOG

as a side note i dont condone tumblr blogs dedicated to making fun of people, specially with such...outdated language

i think this is actually one of those ESH cases tbh, just for diff reasons

but back on topic: Z-A! Gonna kiss the mega dragonite ❤️

[odd kernel]

so i have either a fan or a stalker now?

great

you can find better takes from me

[tepid flame]

No I just read #off-topic and found out you said it while you're here lol

[odd kernel]

i said that almost 7 hours before posting here

[tepid flame]

Yeah I didn't open the channel until then

[storm tinsel]

I just don't like mega dragonite because the mega traits don't feel as incorporated into the overall design. It's the one that feels the most like they just slapped a few features on and that was that. I really like the idea behind it, dragonite with feathery wings and dragonair orbs sounds super cool but the final design doesn't look like they gave it their all. (I don't want Dragonite to be skinny though, that wouldn't look right, and it definitely doesn't look right in the sprite you showed)

That being said if anyone likes mega Dragonite that's fine ofcourse, it just doesn't feel like it reached its full potential for me.

[forest egret]

I like how Mega Dragonite looks but I'll say this - the one in the anime looks a lot better than the model

[storm tinsel]

We see it in the anime already?

[storm tinsel]

Aw

[bleak idol]

wow i hate these dragonite sounds 😅

[storm tinsel]

Yeah that looks a lot better

[forest egret]

Me too

[bleak idol]

it looks very cute in the last shot, and the animation here definitely shows some versatility in the design

[forest egret]

ZA's renders I'm not uh, fond of. They're not bad but they're much worse than the 2D artwork we normally get

And I hope this isn't what they're just gonna do from now on for future games

[olive panther]

I'm sure we'll still see the artwork versions, possibly on release, possibly before.

[forest egret]

That'd be nice

[bleak idol]

i really hope so too. it gives designs a lot of character, especially since they aren't willing to invest in animations that do that. i still want the cartoony style of exaggerated posing they went for back in stadium :/

[storm tinsel]

The 2D artworks do look a lot better

That'd be nice

[tepid flame]

I'm pretty sure Dragonite noises have never been dubbed right

I'd have said "well Dragonite prob sounds a lot better dubbed"

[fickle birch]

And even then, the Gen IX 2D artwork is markedly worse than the previous generations' ones. A bunch of them literally trace over the models. 🙁

A bunch of them also had weirdly stylised diagonal shading. 😅

Toedscruel and Baxcalibur have the worst official art of any Pokémon by far. 😢

But then you've also got Mega Dragonite's render, with the perspective of the wings being way off. 😮

[forest egret]

Ye. I mentioned this in another server this morning but the fact they did this last gen, and now they're using 3d models for this game, makes me kinda wonder if they're trying to phase out illustrations

[fickle birch]

We'll at least always have Dream World art (they use that for merchandising, like the custom lattes in the Pokémon Cafe were using Dream World art), but I think Sugimori-style art might be on the out, yeah. 😢

Sugimori himself is certainly out. 🙁

[odd moat]

Gen 9 just feels really inconsistent with their illustrations, some mons like cyclizar have art that wouldn't look out of place with Sugimori's gen 3/4 stuff, some mons like greavard look more like the alolan renders and then there's baxcalibur who just looks... ass

There's also just no personality going on in his render

[tepid flame]

Yeah these literally trace over the models that's why

Like just taken straight from the 3D models in the game and turned into a drawing with the littlest amount of changes

[fickle birch]

I know. 😂

[tepid flame]

It really sucks cuz like

[fickle birch]

Toedscruel specifically even looks faux 3D because of it. 🙁

[tepid flame]

There's still a good amount of official pokemon art in the game that is very life-like and unique and very much reminiscent of DS-era renders

[odd moat]

gen 9 would've looked better if all of the mons were rendered like that ingame

[tepid flame]

Look at this goofball

[storm tinsel]

Aw that sucks

[fickle birch]

For sure, some kind of shading effect to mimic it (maybe with some increased saturation) would be great. 😄

[fickle birch]

It's so inconsistent now. 😅

[storm tinsel]

Cetoddle's illustration is adorable

[tepid flame]

Like clearly they can get to it

It is not a great sign to me that official illustration's qualities fell off like this

[fickle birch]

For Toedscruel specifically, even the game's code still refers to it as a Gyarados variant, so I think its bad art is specifically because it was created quite late into development. 😮

[tepid flame]

On top of-yeah I was gonna mention that

There was some clear dev corner cutting happening more than we knew

[fickle birch]

There's no excuse for Baxcalibur, though. Such a lame Pokémon design could have been elevated by good art. 😢

[odd moat]

The lack of saturation and bold outlines are the worst offenders imo, at least the gen 6-8 mons still had outlines

[tepid flame]

That there is a scrapped Gyarados variant that's still kept at the code tells me there's so many things in the game that there's just no time to do dev time on

[odd moat]

My boy at least got some solid art

[fickle birch]

Yeah, I mean it has to be apparent based on gameplay, visuals and performance that SV (like all Gen VIII games, including Legends even) was rushed. Hopefully, Z-A is able to address some of that because it's been a while since we got a new Pokémon game at this point. 🙂

[odd moat]

It just feels weird that even the illustrations have taken a hit, they're such an iconic part of the franchise, be it Sugimori's or turner's

[tepid flame]

Like it's a very sad indicator cuz like normally these games would immediately snuff out some scrapped code/plans in the code and we would not know anything until months later in a deep datamine or smth

[odd moat]

So for a region to not even have 1 cohesive style is so blech

[forest egret]

And indeed he is

[fickle birch]

Is it possible that whoever's replaced Turner just doesn't really care about them? 😮

[odd moat]

Would be a shame if true

[arctic pendant]

Holy shit that ability is broken

Wait

No actually probably not

Still kinda crazy tho

[storm tinsel]

It is broken but not when compared to every other broken card in the TCG

Have gotten beaten up to a pulp from decks with that card though

[azure ridge]

The gen 9 haters are back...

[azure ridge]

keeping the Z-A channel on Z-A... I personally think it really is going to be a beautiful and good game. I know I risk being ridiculed for liking something gasp but I wanna see how cool this gets

[jade ocean]

Smogon players' first reaction to seeing Gholdengo:

[hushed ibex]

Bro not the ribombee😭😭

[tawdry flame]

2 hours of ||mega hawlucha|| in chat

[fickle birch]

RIBOMBEE MENTION?

[indigo mango]

i myself dont see the issue, is it the pose?

[fickle birch]

They're traced directly over the 3D models. 🙁

[indigo mango]

i mean same design

but if we just mean the pose, for Baxcalibur i can see it since its probably in refrence to mecha godzilla

[fickle birch]

The official art's supposed to be more dynamic than just tracing over a model... 🙁

[indigo mango]

dude just cant pose

[warm knot]

Maybe it's just that Baxcalibur is ugly

[indigo mango]

i like his design, used him in my playthrough

his middle form is dogshit tho

[fickle birch]

That's the only one of the line I like. 😂

[fickle birch]

I mean it is, absolutely, but the TCG shows that it can at least do some cool poses. 😅

[lime void]

Mega Ribombee when?

[spare roost]

Baxcalibur is awkward, Frigibax is much more fun

[warm knot]

It's just so plain

Like it feels like nothing's happening with its design

[bleak idol]

definitely, and there's decades of good poses for Godzilla they could have borrowed since it's a jokey reference Pokémon and they didn't bother to use one.

or just have gone with the punchline and shown off their physics defying leap

[tepid flame]

https://bogleech.com/pokemon/mainart

I think this guy puts it better than probably a lot of us could lol

[forest egret]

I love Bogleech

[jade ocean]

I got their point but ngl I do NOT know what they're on about with the Lokix and Baxcalibur tangent at the end, Lokix just doesn't share anything in common with Scizor apart from being bipedal, priority abusing bugs and there's like 50 million Godzilla Pokemon so I doubt it was just Gamefreak running out of time and going "Fuck it, another godzilla" they're just milking this shit DRY

And it's been dry ages ago

Seriously stop making fucking Godzilla Pokemon already Gamefreak

Baxcalibur would've been so much cooler if it WASN'T trying to be Godzilla

(And failing)

Tbh I don't really hate Baxcalibur in a vacuum but what I hate is what it could've been compared to the final product

[tepid flame]

I think they're still talking about the official art quality difference

[jade ocean]

Ah fair enough

Yeah no the poses for Scizor, Ttar and Tentacruel are much more dynamic that's true

I'm used to people tryna say stuff is a ripoff of what it isn't lmao

In that case yeah no I think they're making a good point on the art likely being traced from the models

Lokix especially could've had a really good pose

But I refuse to believe Baxcalibur would be made any better by one because Bax is kinda just mid af

And tbh the biggest letdown for me in the SV roster

[tepid flame]

Idk have you seen the TCG artworks for Lokix and Baxcalibur

They understood how to make it cool

[forest egret]

Yeah it's pretty noticeable that a lot of the gen 9 dudes are just doing the same pose they do in-game, or standing in a stiff upright neutral position

[jade ocean]

Bax, cool?

Impossible

[forest egret]

I like to think so

[jade ocean]

Tbh still isn't doing it for me

I just don't like Bax's design nearly as much as the other Pseudos

As I said earlier I think it's a letdown

And could've been so much better if they weren't committing to it being Godzilla

[forest egret]

I agree. I don't hate him but it's not as good as most of the other psuedos

[tepid flame]

You can't deny the dynamism here makes it a lot more cooler

Like yeah it's not gonna look cool when the official art render is just 🧍‍♂️

[forest egret]

I still don't really like Goodra though sorry

[jade ocean]

Can't say if I'd have Dnite or Bax at the bottom of my pseudos list

[tepid flame]

I never minded Goodra but after reading Bogleech's reviews ngl I'm kinda with him

Sliggoo gave it so much opportunity to be a little weirder with it but we just got anime face for the final evo instead

[forest egret]

You notice that weird shading/lighting/whatever that gen's pokemon have

It's not really an issue but it's interesting how often it shows up on them

The faint strokes that go across it diagonally like that, I think a few of them have that

[jade ocean]

Hey wait why is that anyways

I assumed it was tracing the model

But it doesn't seem consistent among them

Unless I'm blind

Which tbf is a possibility

[forest egret]

I just assume it's a texture thing

That the artist is trying to imply the skin is hardened, since it seems to show up with scaled and bug pokemon in that gen

[jade ocean]

Like ngl considering how on most aspects I rate Gen 9's roster far above average Bax is just a massive letdown when it's arguably my least favourite Pseudo Legendary

[forest egret]

The bogleech review where he calls Frigibax "Treecko's ingrown toenail" sticks with me

[jade ocean]

Baxcamidur

[forest egret]

https://tenor.com/view/frigibax-pokemon-gif-433743575843971904

[jade ocean]

Except midur somewhat sounds like midir and that's a disrespect

So what is it? Midcalibur?

[forest egret]

Darkeater Midir as a Pokemon that'd be cool

[jade ocean]

I dont think it's a terrible Pokemon as a whole

Just very very disappointing, especially when compared to other Pseudo Legendaries

And heck even other Gen 9 Pokemon in general

[storm tinsel]

I do wish Goodra was more snail/slug like, like the rest of the line. Goodra doesn't have as much charm as them but I still appreciate it as a cute and squishy dragon.

Goomy is peak creature to me for some reason even though it's mostly a blob, lol.

[forest egret]

I like Goomy and Sliggoo

[storm tinsel]

Goomy and Sliggoo are awesome

[forest egret]

https://tenor.com/view/goomy-goomy-treat-gif-27082433

[tepid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/sliggoo-pokemon-sliggoo-sliggoo-uses-dragon-breath-pokemon-sliggoo-uses-dragon-breath-gif-25333928

Yknow it says a lot that I was trying to search Goomy/Sliggoo gif

And I got twerking Goodra as the first result

I'm getting to understand it more now

[storm tinsel]

Yeah that pokemon gets a lot of weird art, sorry you had to find out this way anshzjajsnai

[jade ocean]

I dont wanna kink shame people and all but like really? A big slimy monster that could easily kill you without even intending to, whose prevo is known to have corrosive sludge?

I feel like that's a stupid idea

But that's just me

[storm tinsel]

I'm ace so I don't personally know what the thought process is in any of this but there are indeed people really into monsters that could easily kill them

[jade ocean]

Fair

Anyways to steer away from the awkward topic, what do y'all think the next Mega revealed is gonna be?

Doesn't matter if you don't know the leaks

Just give your guess

[forest egret]

The starters maybe

[jade ocean]

Idk if the ZA starters would get megas or regional forms but whatever they get I doubt will be revealed before the game drops

The Kalos starters I feel will definitely get Megas

Idk if they'd get revealed before the game releases though

If the Kalos starters don't get Megas I will crash out

[storm tinsel]

Yeah I don't think they'd get revealed til the game drops since just normal final evos for starters aren't revealed until then

[jade ocean]

I can't really give a fully unbiased take on what I think is next since I have seen the leaks and I believe them to be true

So yeah :/

[forest egret]

Mega Charizard Z

He's coming

[jade ocean]

Where is Mega Zard A then?

[forest egret]

We need the whole alphabet

[storm tinsel]

I've seen them too, ||I think it would be funny if Starmie was revealed next just so I can see Starmie with long legs||

[jade ocean]

Mega Zard F

F, as we know, stands for Fairy

[forest egret]

Mega Zard L

[storm tinsel]

Please no

[jade ocean]

Fire/Fairy Charizard where it's broken as shit

[forest egret]

Fire/Stellar Charizo

[jade ocean]

Stellar actually is the Poison type

Defensively I mean

There's a little fun fact for y'all

[storm tinsel]

Didn't play Scarlet/Violet, stellar is poison?

Like it's weak to ground and psychic or?