#event-general
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aromatisse hate is so forced 😔 i fuckign love it
ummm what about
even more as a fusion material

can these two still remain koffing and weezing though?
wdym? they look like koffing and weezing to me
Oh yea her too
I think i forgor her on the team girlboss roster smh
She was absent on picture day
that’s my queen
they use the plague doctor motif and i'm concerned they might get confused for aromatisse heads 
hopefully the colors and yellow smoke will be enough
multiple different mons should be able to use the same motif, there aren’t really many aromatisse features
leavanny is not a girlboss, apparently 
She was also absent on picture day 😔
Even after figuring out that the top right is clampearl, I'm still confused
I’m down for Aromatisse
I love how shes just this little creature, big jim henson vibes but also very girlypop
Also pure fairy
We need fairy heads bad
mandibuzz was also absent for picture day 😔
ah, so you're voting comfey 
i do think there's tons of potential for floriography
also flower crown alts would be cute
just a kangaskhan ma teaching her baby how to weave flower crowns
You can also play w other objects as the flowers too if its the body
Sort of like klefki
I think our fate is sealed tho
Its real goat hours incoming
satanx2.66
This is true
gordo why is there no 4th place in the trainer card results
it's 1-2-3 and then 5
for the podium? it's the top three, then the top of each team
ah okay
since it was Emerald, Ruby, Ruby, the topmost Sapphire placement was next announced
Oh hey that one’s mine
Yknow I was originally disappointed by my result with this, but thats actually really entertaining now that I think about it
you say that like it's a bad thing
oh, it's an anime reference? i thought Rockruff was parting the Red Sea
imagine not immediately getting the NGE reference 
so many people getting tripped up by resolution! 
finally someone who recognizes where the trainer avatar will be and adjusts their composition accordingly 
(it is kinda funny how many people just. put the 'mon right where the trainer will go)
get nommed on
huh wonder who that could be 
also my only input about the contest is that somebody should ban me from using the blur tool in asesprite so i don't shoot myself in the foot when it comes to actually ranking well next time
I wasn't aware that Gastrodon was a girlboss aifnuianiufhaiuf
so many judges didn't like the gradients
someone needs to make a "how to make gradients specifically for pixel art"
i think there's one already in resources, but i think people might have assumed more colors were acceptable because of the bigger canvas 🤔
Yeah I wouldn't know what the rules are on the trainer cards for that
Tbf, I see where they're coming from with it kind of losing that pixel art feel to it at a certain point, I just wouldn't know where exactly the line would be before that feeling is lost.
Oh wait I just realized the cacnea card has a gradient
The winning one, not the zombie one 
It seems they used a TON of dithering to get a pixel-arty gradient?
like how this one is a good gradient vs others
How many colors was that gradient?
i did read some judge comments suggesting to use dithering to get a gradient effect, so yeah
looks like 5 colors?
alright that's cute
I'll keep this in mind for the future. Friendship with blur tool is over. Dithering is my new best friend.
Diagonal team magma
a little surprised no one commented on this being zygarde's pattern, but w/e
So then maybe 2-5 colors is a safe bet for gradient backgrounds
Now I must sleep so I can officially kickstart my friendship with dithering tomorrow. Gnight and gday y'all, and I appreciate the results commentary, @signal nexus
I feel like a lot of the patterns or more abstract shapes don't often get identified as what they are
which is why i was curious about no one commenting
makes me wonder if the judges got the reference
it's 5 colors
my gard family entry used 3
pls make pixel art gradient tutorial 
Still so pretty 
someone shouldve put in a entry that had nothing to do with pokemon because that wasnt listed in the rules
Imagine someone just putting in pixel art of some random real guy, like, "Here is my trainer card of Bob"
where the april contest man
i should submit to it and say the rule I'm breaking is being late
Thats probably 1 of my ocs
I name them all bob
pidove propaganda
PIGON
Adorable 
borb
Interesting... I wonder why? 
Even without the pixels likely ruining the illusion, I can say right now that would not be a working magic eye 😛
-# Is it a retorical question? 
Somewhat. If the individual themselves sees it they are welcome to answer, but otherwise yes it's basically rhetorical.
@rough kindle 👀
Apparently in this event earning points caused some dramas but I don’t remember any happening during the anniversary when we still had points and a reward for the first place. So it made me wonder and I think the big difference that caused a lot of problems is the fact that they were different teams
my other entry was mushroom_party and if I had gotten the time to do the rest of my entries they would have all been mushroom_something else
also mushroom_stary_night felt like a mouth full + stargazing in connection to our alien baby Shiinotic has some wistful vibe imo
Like E.T. call home
Excuse me, but how is your name so pretty??
show pigeons:
~~doesn't mean i don't immediately try to treat it as one
~~
looks like the Newest Contest Champion role?
I don't think it's supposed to be a Magic Eye
It's a different optical illusion
It's the rotating snakes optical illusion
(Spoilered for eyestrain)
I can attest that the seviper card do work on me at least 
yeah worked on me too haha
Got silksong!
The competition of team blue, team red and team green is still going on?
All events are done we're just waiting ever so not patiently for the results
K
Yep we are all extremely patient and not begging for results at all 
Eelektross propaganda
They got the glow and a cute lil dance
I don't think the awkward teenage phase is good propaganda lol
another middle evo to get ignored
Isn't that all pokemon with a middle evo

except braixen
and Pikachu
im trying my best but theres so many and i burn out 
Also honestly usually i like middle evos more because they retain being cute and don't go full grrr cool strong mon or whatever
I'M SORRY I PROMISE IT WASN'T ABOUT YOU LUXIO 
Here’s your (starting today) daily Jerry propaganda
jerry
oh god now I want to make a graph showing the disparity in sprites for middle evos vs their first and third stages
some of them definitely dont have that issue as much like dusclops
you and the other pocket monsters ditch Jerry when it looks away
Sliggoo I know is neglected even though i like them a lot more than Goodra
Rip cute dragon snail teen
ok its 10 levels
not as bad as I remembered
still compared to other pseudos the middle evo doesn't get much play
Sliggoo propaganda
Also this scene where it's trying to look menacing or determined but looks like it is point five seconds from throwing up because of the squiggle mouth and is struggling to keep it in
mood
charjabug?
fine 😔
was-once-a-final-stage-itis
Goober
We could have more rock and roll themed sprites if simisage gets in
I see rotom and whirliped 
And other car lookin mons Im forgetting
OHKO!

unless that's Bullet Seed, no it's not
anyway, the name is roggenrolla. it's already rock-and-roll themed
i can't believe i'm seeing sincere monkey propaganda
only in english
Ernesto really wants the monkeys
i've said it before, but i legit thought the line was supposed to be music themed because of the name and because roggenrolla looks kinda like a speaker
So does other staff helpers and a staff member or 2
It's popular among us ppl
i think the name's a pretty close approximation of the japanese but there's absolutely no music influence in japanese name
japanese has way more onomatopeia than we do
[rock noises]
Here's my image for woobat
This is less of propaganda and more of a warning that they are breaking in whether you like it or not 
no blood allowed
Do I still need to worry about money bribes for Espurr. Time-sensitive question.
we don't even know who's voting
Okay thank god, got time to take a loan out.
They haven't murdered... Yet
I imagine it wouldn't change the odds of you running into a battle in a cave and more the odds of seeing a bat when you do get in a battle, although I don't know how this stuff is programmed
wait, are these supposed to be like piloswine eyebrows? i thought they were just fluff
like these guys
Yeah
no wonder i thought woobat had no eyes. i've literally just been treating it as an eyeless ball of fluff
🤔 so if i'm reading it right - actually more equal than reputation suggests
Is the highest mid-evo pikachu?
with final evos being the most sprited
these are the "middle evo has the most" lines
so absolute and not proportional 🤔
and compared against the members of their respective lines
kinda surprised so much vigoroth, but i think there's a guy pokefanning it, so 🤔
another visualiztion
do you have the proportional stats?
so less by
about 50-100 sprites?
help me undertand what you mean
heres the silly scatter plot with the weirdos highlighted
Who are the four outliers?
these
Oh wait it’s a few messages above nvm
prolly these guys
#event-general message
something like
okay, dragonair has 732 sprites to dragonite's 711, but those are very similar numbers
whereas pikachu has 150 more sprites than raichu does
or, hang on
<dbl>?
i might be misinterpreting the math
dont worry about that its just a header for the type of variable
Im cooking something
ah, okay
i wasn't sure if you were evaluating squares or smth
like a least-squares analysis or smth
though that'd probably be named <sqr> and not <dbl>
Wow so much love for dragonair i love to see it
Ok, here's the lines with the most extreme differences in evo line sprite counts
I also decided to separate out the split evo lines better
i need to make more luxos
Math is so wild to me like they really just decided to start counting shit one day
And then here's the corrected middle weirdos chart, now that split evos arent added together
we need more middle evo rushes
instead of duskull lets do a dusclops rush for halloween
now we can more clearly see that wurmple is only middle evo dominant because of @storm remnant
lol@trapinch
anyway that was fun, I guess. Dont ask to see my code
@naive summit how do u feel about a middle evo halloween rush
even better - the just decided to turn lines into squares and counting the lack of things and taking ratios of shit
look at this mofo
and this mofo
Duskull had its time in the spotlight
Time for Dusclops 
we got mummies!
dusclops really isn't doing bad
mummy 
366/193 compared to dusknoir 307/257
What other 3-stage ghosts or darks do we have?
oh nice
yeah, but vibrava isn't spoopy
uhhhhhh
Vibrava is the best of the line 
crazy take
I think the whole line is awesome actually
Trapinch has a special place in my heart for being a silly goober though
~~Invalid take
You must choose
~~
Took too long to type
we must choose George?
haunter, lampent, doublade, zweilous
That’s my emote for intimidation
and dusclops
i guess lampent?
tbh Id much rather see a rush for one of the new pokemon. some of these counts are DIRE
i guess duosion if we want creepy things in jars
Lampent seems scary because a lot of people will undershade/overshade the metal/fire
older 'mons are are likely to have successful rushes and not risk low-effort completionist slop
yeah true
perfect for Halloween, then 
actually so real, lampent and chandelure palettes are insane
i think dusclops is a perfect rush choice for halloween
team shinx line where are you at
i thought there was a team shinx
here, probably 
Not our fault that GameFreak didn't give a single shit when shading Lampent and Chandelure 
if there is a team shinx i haven't seen it
there should be a bunch of middle evo centered events for october
make october middle evo month
if anything it should be nevomber [sic]
[sick]
I have plans for the rush this year already
but sounds neat
darn
[sick] [sic]
can we know which pokemon 
no 
maybe if we rush it ahead of time we'll be able to get midtober
midtober.....
maybe Howls doesn't even know because it's whatever will get voted in 
not my current plan but wouldn't be the first time my plans get usurped by new mons
love when that happens
ripperoni
anyway, i at least know if MudKipster wins, they don't want their pick to be used in a rush so they can pokefan it at a leisurely pace
ill win
I wanna say at most I'd imagine there being a contest, as is tradition, but don't take that as official bc I know nothing of what's planned lmao
mergemidmay
I'm too tired to spell
Secret Spriter
i don't even know if MergeMay even ended
uh
officially
I dont either tbh
I think I forgot to say anything and just closed the thread
just like littlecup
MergeMayfly but the opposite
and April Fools
I've got it
Ik there’s been no MergeMay collage
oh right! 🫰
were you here for the announcement of LC?
instead of March Madness we have March Midness
new announcement or the og contest
No mergemay collage?
Fair enough ig
i swear someone told me there was a cash prize offered but i wasn't there so i don't know
and wanted to check with someone who was
need to go to collage college
like $20, right?
I think little cup originally had cash prizes but idk if that ever happened lmao
ah
we were chatting yesterday about if spriters get paid and the legal banhammer we'd get if that were to happen
cash prizes? in this economy?
Cash prize and unlimited entries, what could go wrong 
this was my entry : >
what was the argument against getting legalhammered for offering money for pokemon stuff?
We’ll have to host our own unofficial sequel little cup at some point
Middle Cup
middle cup
Middle cup 

make it a cash prize with unlimited entries 
./;;;;;;/>
the prize is we ban you
i think this means my cat wants fish or smth
you meaning the winner or you meaning luxio specifically?
Why not both
both is good
Bye Luxio 🫡
the prize is we force Kiwi to return and host it
and judge it
What like. With time travel
yeah
the cash prizes is the proceeds we get from the patent for time travel
Are we talking about LC? 
LC when
the cash prize is the friends we made along the way 
no we're talking about the potential sequel: Middle Cup
mid cup first
(their life insurance)
I want my at least 15 dollars smh
oh
thanks for reminding me
We're inventing time travel all just for a fangame? Damn
ye
I will put in 100 sliggoos
its never been done before
I want a job
the surprise is the cash prize is all monopoly money
The contest doesn’t end until all the middle evos have more sprites than the first/last stages
host it
Once I have a job, and win tons of money, and be rich, I might make Mid Cup real
oh is the mergemay collage still nonexistent 
it’s funny keep it that way the longer you leave it it’ll be mergeapril and then mergemay again
Who wants to fo a bank robbery to make mid cup real! 
(for legal reasons this is a joke)
y'all can do mini-events, you know
terastralization cup!!
woohoo terapagos
Garde and Macho cups
Thirst Cups
legit
and Fusion Day came in with the metal chair
I really miss hosting the sfx awards smh
you mean pinchurchin?
Tbh if you run it again you could probably re-run the same categories
It’s been long enough
You could also run the texture awards 
It’s hard for me to have a consistent routine rn
Totally, I miss Pix tho 

Where did they go 
last we heard from them was 'dealing with life stuff' in january
hope they're doin okay
Yea
I have to remind you again today
In case you forgot
Just to gently look at them
I guess you could also aggressively look at them 
False information because you don't have 2 Gastrodon's 
I also don't have Shellos in there
I'm just condensing it for niceness
Pink gastro matches more
This expresses my feelings at the moment:
Just be patient
We yearn for slugs
Atleast if we win you do get the mon ya want 
For once I don't have a weird choice of pokemon 
Not entirely true, eelektross or a random pick from members who said nothing could happen 
I also like eelektross
Last new mon vote my top picks were Gastrodon and Sawsbuck
Gastrodon is absolutely not this small, but imagine if it was
Aww
Though, here I am, outside of Sapphire chat
Perhaps my time would be better spent on a certain special trio
Not opposed to gastrodon but didn't frog say something about both gastrodon forms being seperate slots
All teams should consider
That the elemonkeys are not actually a bad choice
Tis unfortunate but I'll figure out how to make each form stand out
We've got some material to work with
I just don't like monkeys 😔
I don't like real monkeys
But I like fictional cartoon monkeys
Jangamo-o keeps haunting me 
maybe i'll make a cute jang and make that my pfp
I have a problem where I can't upload gifs from my computer to discord anymore :(
It just doesn't work
Won't load
Gets stuck at processing
I can give you the psd file
And someone who can open those can export it from their image editing software as a gif
Is that the photoshop format?
But I can't get my laptop to load gifs to discord anymore 
Yeah
It's compatible with a few different programs since photoshop is so widespread
Don't have photoshop but I could theoretically open it in one of my art programs
I'm also eeping though, so if someone else gets to it before I awaken go for it sjsusjiaoa
I could also give you guys the individual frames
If you flip through these the right way, he turns 
where can i download the game for the delta ios app?
Not here
How did you get to this channel?
Have you tried reading everything in #downloads?
Listen
These people made it to the stage during movie night
The question is not how
Logic does not apply here
Yeah, during one of the Movie Night events, someone came into the chat in The Stage and asked where to download the game 
joltik fusion
is that wormadam??
we need wormadam and furfrou for wormfrou
Dog
yeah

all we need is to add two more pokemon lines that arent on anyone's radar
busilisk confirmed for pif?????????? 
heliolisk would be a cool mon tho
shame its part normal type
Errm normal types are awesome so I see no issue here
what would you do if they added a normal capybara pokemon
Ghost immunity's pretty great
can't wait for ghost type scrappy next gen
It’s frankly astonishing they haven’t
I can't wait for the inexplicable third ability that allows normal to hit ghost types next gen
Ability called Skeptic. The normal type doesn’t believe in the supernatural
theres just a lot of normal types already
need to fill out some of the types that are lacking
it's on a great dane based pokemon wearing an ascot
Counterpoint: I like them
The prevo is way smaller and gets scrappy
Now we’re talking
i know we've gotten like seven dogs in the past two gens but can we get more
i want a shepherd dog of some sort
YES
BUIZEL
What can I say ay
Likely if we get a German region
houndeutsch
@cinder stag design a German shepherd pokemon for us thanks 
i dont like dogs :/
But you just complimented a dog in sp discussion 
Are german shepherds even popular in germany
I guess the name implies they're from near Alsace
Apparently Alsatian is kind of a Freedom Fries type thing

On a completely different topic, if there are any people who have both an interest in showdown battles and spriting my event still needs two volunteer gym leaders! (Looking for 4th and 8th positions.)
You have to sprite your team that you'll battle with (previously sprites made by you are valid) and non-PIF is allowed!

The palette is awesome, and all the floaties possibilities!
agreed i love buizel
erm Technically, We only have 62.72% of all Normal types available, so realistically being Normal type is a positive 🤓
To those interested in the IF Sprite-lock, we're getting started!
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1148785825178460241
you do see em around
they're decently popular? but not like super popular either? i mean nowadays you can get every dog under the sun soo ppl go for all kinds of things ig
Fair
Yay 
Thank you
Maybe if I download this, it will work
I can upload gifs I saved before it stopped working
NOPE 
I just can't upload new gifs
Oh well
Everybody please enjoy "pansageinthemicrowave.gif"
maybe if it was melting
The stage is still open
👀
GamR, should I plan on creating a collage in the future for the non-if sprites I've made?
because I've been thinking about making one for a while
should I open the stage, just for the lols 
And with that announcement out....
I'll be within The Stage for questions
Because oh boy
I believe there to be... something coming 
chaos of course
congragulations @edgy skiff
Congrats, aromatisse pls
congrats @edgy skiff
I'm saying it so that it stays in
no acess ;-;
I think you mean #team-sapphire-new-pokemon-vote 
Me when I accidentally invalidated the contests 
gg 
pick crustle trust me 
completely unbiased opinion
You better choose a good Pokémon 
Can't even if they wanted
You should pick the monkeys for your effort /s
now that team sapphire went from last place to first place, how would the team agree on voting in 1 pokemon?
Aromatisse is also fluffy and somewhat batlike
I forget what the sapphire pool is
i thought their choice was independent from the team structure?
look guys
I don't remember
oh yeah, p sure the main winner can pick from any pool
only team sapphire can see that, so congrats!
Ok yeah nvm I retract my statement
Oops
Still
Am in https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1148785825178460241 if y'all have any questions
Smh y'all tell gordo to wait when I come home trust 
so true
great event every one lets never do bonus pokemon ever again
TRUE
~~again like splatfest, the interim winning team won by a land slide
~~

I gotta get spritedex completionist stat before the announcement is made
Well yeah. You’re Team Emerald
PLEASE PICK THE ELEMENTAL MONKEYS
no, we can see it
Oh cool
oh let me screenshot
im very sad ah well
I can’t read forwarded messages on mobile because of my potato phone! 
Nah it's good
Yeah
Dang
Mudkipster contributed over 33% of the points to Sapphire
unsurprising
honestly i don't know how to feel about this, nothing against mudkipster they're a chill person and this was just the way the event was, they did what they had to in order to win but like damn it definitely encourages churning out simpler sprites in competitions like this when it can win the entire thing
like tons of other people(myself included) ended up making way simpler sprites to try and keep up with everyone else
yeah at this point I think it's fair if they pick the pokemon no contest 
but i think yelling at team ruby about the plusle/minun "spam" is a little funny in hindsight now
I'll be honest I didn't want to single-handedly make Sapphire win 
I just wanted the most individual points and my anxieties took me way further than I knew I could go
fair enough
It got to a point of like.. sunk cost fallacy
This is an issue I'm fixing for next year
Where if I didn't win it would've felt terrible
next year?
Fusion Day is yearly
And that kinda resulted in.. uh.. making 33% of sapphire's points 😅
yeah but we're doing teams again next year?
Teams? Probably not
But I can use this point script
And I have an idea for somethin' cool next year....
Something that encourages the whole community to work together
i actually really liked the team structure
I still have to get the framework done, and pitch it like
Atleast half a year in advance
But it'll be good
Better than this year and all that's come before it
It will be
... I don't have an alluding pun yet... not at the theming yet....
But think of one for me! 
The only problem with team structure is that it inherently leads to competition toxicity. No fault of the managers, it's just what happens. Things get misinterpreted and go sour from there
true, but i liked having a group of people that i could easily get feedback and support from as opposed to usually being on your own with contests and stuff
That was really nice yeah
Maybe we could have teams next year but the teams aren't against eachother, just focusing on something different to get progress for everyone?
we should need points but as a community goal then it's separated teams
I feel like winning competitions was a little lacklustre as well, like you could be the team winning a contest but because more people put stuff forward from another team the people that came 3rd could just win double the points 
Did love the event though this was my first fusion day it rocked 
yeah it was my first as well, had a lot of fun, got a bit burnt out and this ending might have soured it a little but i made a lot of sprites i'm happy with and helped other people out so it was pretty solid
Just cap the amount of points any ONE person can generate and teams would prob be perfect
I finally have a unique contest role

Yeah thats what their doing next year
There's a chat channel discussing changes next year if you wanna listen
guys next year the points are exactly the same and we get a new pokemon every 3000 points, definitely can't go wrong
Teams are cool, but not "two years in a row cool"
I have a much more interesting idea already
You'll see
Guys please simipour simisage and simisear have only been catchable in 3 mainline games
Its okay ill run team based recurring events that dont amount to anything so noone can get mad 
Teams will be back in pif sinnoh, planned for 2056
All teams get a Pokemon from their lists if we vote simipour
No it will ne pif alolah by then, there will be a plot to fuse the islands
I’ve come to bring you non-sapphire people more Jerry propaganda
Wishiwashi is cool guys go vote them 
Anyway Sapphire vote in wishiwashi or araquanid
Crab 
I’m on mobile so I don’t have my propaganda on hand
And pidove! Pls vote in pidove!
time for my propaganda 
Dear jesus please let someone pick aromatisse amen 🙏
squirl 
Nope, sorry 
I was speaking to the Lord actually
And I said no 
if were actually encouraged to share event feedback. a quality > quantity event will always be less like. be very burnoutty and based on peoples availability and mental health states. when i say bonus point pokemon should not be done in the same way again i mean it
shout out to mudkipster but grinding out quick easy fusions shouldnt be the most effective way to succeed
anyways i have nothing to gaslight people into voting alas
uh. consider the sloog
Hello all
yeah its sort of like. i love the camaraderie of our team but also i think dealing with other people from other teams being kind of mean about things and the competition salt is just. eh
please vote gastrodon i dont get to vote but
I agree
Guys have you ever considered voting for wishiwashi?
100%
ifs so upsetting for someone like me who struggles with fatigue and literally can never win an event like this
im not saying anything but i can say it sucks that its just completely beyond my capabilities
The other teams can't vote right now
only sapphire gets to vote so
wishiwashi but you're not forced to take schooling... or mjst be stuck as a 125 bst fusion fodder
For now 
sucks that coding wise, its the baby form first and then schooling makes you 600 bst
Emerald and Ruby get to vote later :D
*(for something from the sapphire pool)
But honestly I agree with the quality over quantity part as making tons of simple fusions with the same base and recoloring/reusing them for different fusions is kind of...idk how to describe it without sounding a bit rude
Paya maybe said it preemptively in our chat
if it was minior where you were the big guy, and then schoooling turns you into baby form after reaching 1/4th hp
Yeah, that bst is going to make me do a run with the actual lowest possible bst mon if it gets in

Source 
Paya
Are we confirmed?
Wait what the fu-
So there will be extra mons!
announcements also did say for emerald-ruby to hold their horses
also solo form is 175 bst, not 125
but also this is the lowest possible stats
If Sapphire votes in accelgor or escavalier, I promise to vote in the counterpart line
Ngl I would probably have an easier time beating the game with this than solo sunkern
If one gets in we already get both
imagine, you expect the top vote of sapphire to get in, only for it to be a top 10 go next poll, that makes the 10th rank mon enter the game due to ruby/emerald vote
Ye we're not bullshitting actually, Gordo and Paya have confirmed that Ruby and Emerald will get to combined vote for a Sapphire mon
I also said it - and confirmed it
several times
We confirmed on that, too?
I mean, should people take a base sprite, finish it, recolor it/barely make any changes for the other Pokémon and leave it as is without accounting for silhouette recognizability?
Oh wait so there aren’t new lines, it’s just than the other teams will get to vote on the final Mon from the top sapphire choices (?)
Well look at it on the sapph vote list
i read that wrong
Karrablast AND Shelmet
And Escavalier AND Accelgor
i did not see the comma
It's said that this whole time
we vote for a seperate mon from team sapphire
okay but guys hear me out
I might’ve confused it with heatmor and Durant, then. Mb
we get the burmy line in 
I wonder how much different the vote could be from just sapphire compared to the other teams
i think the proceeds are, sapphire gets a week to vote, and then once their top choice is locked, the remaining ones get voted in
so if sapphire vote gives it to Dragalge, it is removed from teh choices and then the poll is released to emerald/ruby
and then we vote in drampa for double dragons 
Drampa!
I'm glad Emerald and Ruby got to have a vote in the end, everyone worked so hard.
I agree. I'm really glad there's at least something ❤️
now that we know 2 lines are being added from sapphire, you could do the funny thing and add a line from ruby/emerald's lineup. On the otherhand im super stoked Swoobat is coming
-# three 
yee, its 3 if you choose swoobat 
Smh my head no carracosta + archeops 
sad that clangerous soul is a gen 8 move,
else Simple Swoobat/Kommo-o with clangerous soul would be hype
wtf they gave kommo a signature move in gen 8 
swampert signature when
sometimes i wonder how the past starters would look if they were made today
Rip muddy water
Probs more humanoid lol
sad that no munna or crustle but i shouldnt have gotten my hopes up lol
rip blaze kick and leaf blade while you’re there 
dude if muddy water was made today it would have a guaranteed chance of accuracy drop

It could always still get buffed
Aren't the pledge moves multitype when combined or am I crazy? (Or is that just flying press or something)
90 bp water type move with 85 accuracy for some reason
Why would i ever want to teach my swampert muddy water when surf and waterfall are free
Surf hits all pokemon vs muddy only hitting opponents, clearly OP
Ignore dazzling gleam

it is due to Kommo-o's gen 7 signature, Kommo-Z to not be able to transfer to newer games
So, I'll give my opinion about the event and it might be a bit salty.
The event idea in itself was nice, the three team for three different pool of potential addition made it interesting.
Sadly, I think that there were too much "quantity over quality" aspects.
For exemple, the "+16 for each 5 entries per team" for the trainer card made it somehow look like they wanted a quantity of entries and not quality.
The sprite = bonus point is the worst of all imo because how can 1 person get 33% of the point of their team alone?? It's just robbing all the fun of the event because no matter what other do, they could never catch up.
Some events were badly judged imo. I feel like the guidelines vs judging of the trainer card contest were opposite.
So to summ'up, good idea, bad execution, I'd give it a 11.5/20.
note for the team that planned this : you did a good job but you didn't anticipated all the details.
Gen 6 has one iirc
from has confirmed voting the monkey gets all 3
same goes to burmy
and with how he does dexes, thats 5 slots
7 if he makes the burmy forms unique
Yeah but the monkeys are pretty boring body wise and head wise they’re pretty average, burmy and wormadam will be a nightmare for recognisability with the bodies
though i can see him doing burmy like he does pumpkaboo
im sorry 
why does everything get a bundle except for carracosta and archeops 
With shelmet and karrablast we get 4 unique Pokémon with very recognisable heads and bodies
I kind of liked how the dex entries contest did it where each entry mattered and wasn't a waste of time even if it didn't win but still got points for the team according to quality.
I got no points because I forgot the full stop at the end of mine 
when having proper punctualization actually mattered 😭
Oh, and I forgot one thing :
- the reward is nice for the winning team, but there seems to be no reward at all that make a difference between 2nd and 3rd
- the fact that the "consolation reward" is basically just another reward for the winning team
So yeah, good idea bad execution.
if event tier list when
initially the reward for the other teams was nothing
the crossfusion chart was also not properly thought out 
You don't have to, you played by the rules, but yeah, even if you'll be ruby I'll be mad
the halloween scavenger hunt was fun i’m ngl and it’s definitely not because it added slurpuff 
NGL, it's sometime better to have nothing than something you don't like.
I’m content with what happened, and I certainly am happy all teams participated
I dunno I just don’t have any complaints
Well I’m pretty sure most people will like what we pick
Since there’s a decent range of Pokémon and we’re the ones picking
I'm overall still happy my integrity throughout the event. I never purposefully took shortcuts for the sake of points. Like I did my best to wait 24 hours in Spritework threads before posting to gallery, I implemented feedback when it was given, and I purposefully chose not to make plusle versions of my minun sprites because it just felt too easy and unnecessary
the amount of times my feedback for plusle/minum sprites was. "Make more changes to reflect them"
im still curious maybe i missed it in the rules/announcements but are any of the trainer cards or boxes going to be in the game? if so, which ones? any of them, top 50, 20, 10, 3..?
Honestly I’m fairly content with how things went^^
But at the same time I went in solely for Dedenne and already knew it was never gonna happen
yeahh I heard things got. icky with plusle/minun on the other teams 
it was kind of unnecessary tbh
After hearing about that basically reaffirmed my stance of not making Plusles
but watever
I didn’t get any flack because I made my minun sprites wink and I changed the ear direction 
I just.. didn't want to be involved in.. that-
Which they don't really have to, game freak was lazy by doing a copy paste, why shouldn't we?
But I don't want to dive into it again.
Also because all of the arguing had already happened
my main takeaway is that Swoobat is in and for that ima celebrate
One of the few lines in Sapphire that i did like
swoobat is cute but it doesn’t really get any design gears going for me 
Swoobat’s okay, I don’t really see a ton of potential with it, especially when other Pokémon do similar things but a new mon is a new mon and I’m happy that other people got a Pokémon they like
One of the few that I really dislike, might even say that I hate it, but I'll still go with it I guess.
I like woobat cause big ball of floof with small wings and a silly buck tooth
its pretty fun though, Simple/Unaware & gets Stored Power
So basically this event has given Term every reason to not like me 
-# joking ftr
yellow isn’t negative btw i’m down with it i’m just not extremely emotional over it either way lol
@cedar quest
Yes.
Oh no Mudkipster's days are numbered! 
The last we heard from Mudskipter is that he added Swoobat
haven't heard a word since 
I like woobat but not swoobat
Swoobat’s eyes make me feel uncomfortable
I'd say that I like swoobat the same way I like the oricorio
Musharna goated
Which is that I don't
Like it’s a very very blank stare but with the smile it looks a little unsettling
Next fusion day I'd be down to go all in for helping munna and crustle
I don’t think we’re getting new mons next fusion day 
PLEASE I DESIRE MORE GASTROPODS 
our team had a lot of salazzle fans but it was also divided so i feel like crustle wouldbe had a decent shot if we won
goodra is nice and all BUT GASTRODON

who knows where pIF is going to be in a year. we'll see
oh and magcargo is there too i guess
GASTRODON!!!
goodra doesnt really feel like a gastropod to me but thats a me problem
With the ranking system I think crustle could’ve won since salazzle was pretty polarising so it might’ve lost in terms of the average
yeah thats what i was saying
with hoenn released 
Hisuian Goodra tho
gordo nearly deleted the stage on accident apparently
again its a me problem. hisui barely exists in my brain
I feel like Goodra overall should be more snail/slug like
taking into the fact of the results of last year's poll, Salazzle was voted 4th place i think, with Excadrill at 3rd

Totally on board with getting Crustle in
then again, that was an everyone votes poll as opposed to a centralized poll
i really like goodra
i don’t really care for sliggoo or goomy im ngl, honestly if sliggoo didn’t have that stupid eyelash thing it would be peak to me but that’s it lol
It was in the same row as the Permissions
I tried sending this just before the thing was privated 
Which I needed to re-private The Stage
hisuian goodra was awesome i loved it when they made goodra useable for 2 seconds and then archaludon decided to exist
i asked a question up there
Damn
and pinged you
Rules out all my questions
deleting the stage would certainly be one way to send off fusion day
But look at goomy they adorable
oh the PC Box thing right?
Question: Timeline is, Sapphire votes till the 13th, and then on the 14th Ruby/Emerald votes?
@cedar quest
No clue! ||Turns out you weren't supposed to know about that in full yet, oops
||
I'm pretty sure there's a channel in #1110678444896964628?
Since its ranked voting they could theoretically be running parallel and if they both picked the same option you just go to second place for Ruby and emerald
We leaked top secret info and now all of us are wanted
Trainer Cards has here: https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1281689585235267716
im confused. this didnt actually answer what i asked
@cedar quest what's your opinion on the whole event?
Oh I misread
Probably
But I can't answer as to which or how man
y
Because that is
In all fairness both GamR and Paya didn't know it wasn't supposed to be revealed yet lol
Not my decision 
would you consider asking for feedback for future events like this prior to doing them?
i do like the idea that if Ruby/Emerald do vote concurrently, if both teams vote the same 1st place option, 2nd place gets in for the Ruby/Emerald vote
yeah for sure
gives the dev more time to get things mapped out for the Hoenn demo
hundreds of people could have told you a month beforehand that contest points were stupidly low and it'd result in churning out simple sprites, prizehunters needing fast claims was a silly idea for a timed event, etc
I know it's been confirmed it'll be implemented but I 100% support a point cap for individual people for the sprites they make 
Am already working on the framework for next year, and will try and have it all balanced by like - July instead of 2 days before
But gotta say.....
this isn't being rude it just is what it is
I almost had it for how close it was 
seems like there isn't much diversity of views/devil's advocate in event running
But even so for next year.....
It's fine if the points end up a bit high
And you'll understand why that is when we get there....

I liked the raffle thing from year
Most sprites person could’ve been put on that with the contest winners to pick a mon
The funny thing GamR is that when the first point tally was posted, I must've just gotten Team Sapphire up that high to have the teams all be so close
I think we legit would've been so far behind at that point if I was at my original pace
The raffle of Cacturne and the other?
The raffle that gave us meloetta
Wasn't room for it this year, am happy I got what I got
And feedback told me.... people didn't like it surpsingly
So IDK
Maybe
Maybe not
We shall see....
overall I was too busy to participate but aside from the numbers and incentives being fucky, the event as a concept was really well planned and executed
i just hope next year its more [well defined] contest focused
i did play in the showdown stuff which had some issues, but i have a lot of sympathy for trying to shoehorn in an unpopular format on people who don't play it
a few spriters like myself learned the metas and had fun
Not to be rude, but the lack of organisation was one of the things that made me not like the event as much as I thought I'll do.
Nah that's valid
Anyways
to give some small showdown-specific feedback, in future it probably needs to be one/both randbats and PIF OU and nothing else.
Randbats is accessible and simple, PIF OU encourages the POA guys to play. The gimmick tiers were cool, but one issue seemed to be that POA players weren't incentivised to play as it wasn't useful for them to know the tier after the event ended. PIF OU also has some resources for spriters to learn from
Good night, I need to sleep to be in good shape today for my yu-gi-oh small tournament
both tiers are also significantly more balanced than the average discord user probably would expect also
I'm not gonna give thoughts on the spriting beyond what I said initially because
a) those events are way more popular so I'm sure you'll have plenty of quality feedback if you look in the right place
b) i don't want to sound like a critical knowitall when in reality it is much easier to point out flaws than stuff that went well. event organising is very difficult and thankless and it overall seemed like a really fun event on the spriting side
the schedule/calendar in particular was excellent
It was really fun but also really burnt a lot of people out towards the end
Probably because there was no cap on individual sprites
Yeahh-
Which, honestly, is another EXCELLENT reason for there to be a cap on sprite points
I'm saying that without even knowing what you're talking about, it's just obvious
I can understand if people who entered a lot of contests were also a bit burnt but that's more just managing your own workload
People tend to push themselves too far before they realize what their limit is
actually one last thing I want to point out, that rule about only one podium (or your best podium) counting per person was a great rule
Was it? It didn’t really reward the person who came second or third that much if someone above them was on their team, they still got the roles and stuff but if they were entering it to help the team it could feel like they didn’t end up making much of an impact
It was kinda of needed for Anti-Snowball measures within Contests
Oh right-!
Do I get the Event Winner role 
Life if bonus points weren't worth too much
I don't know the exact wording of the rule, but I think it was nice from the perspective of there being several niche contests that only a few top spriters were realistically going to place highly in
Sapphire would've won off of the double podium sweep in Speed Spriter #1 anyways if that rule
Did not exist.
so take with a grain of salt
cmon be cool gordo

Idk if it's GamR's decision?
At least I'd imagine GamR isn't the one who'd give it to me 
it isn't I'm sure I'm just being a dick
but I have no dog in the race and I think you deserve that or the contest champion slowking
Well did you win an event per se or are you just being rewarded for a contribution within a larger event 🤔 honestly I’m not sure what you’d get
what are you voting for sorry to be the 100th person to ask
I’m pretty sure they’re voting swoobat
I mean.
I won the individual points event If you wanna phrase it like that
But also. I mean. I kinda uhm. Did win the event for Sapphire 😅


