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I have been for a while but I'm slow, busy, and it isn't as engaging as something I could make with my hands
You're using feet to sprite?
no wonder it takes so long, use hands too
"too"???? 
Yeah,feet alone are hard to maneuver
the spheal part is visible but im not sure which dog is the body
I thought rockruff
Rockruff
When I put the squirel like tail thing prolly gonna be more readable
yeah probably cause rigth now it could perfectly be eevee
rockruff for collar
i didn't even see it was woofa when i first glanced at the sprite but also for woofa
I'll probably submit these into the hoenn contest
and uhh maybe make some other ones
does anybody know what the rules are on having multiple sprites for one fusion? I know you can only have 2 sprites of the same design but I've heard that if something is a completely different design but the same fusion its ok
like this
I'm actually unsure
if it's a slight change I think it's up to 2 and it should be recognizable but I do wonder what would be the case for a different fusion...
if 2 spriters create the same one they both would be mains
but if 1 were to make 2 that'd make a bit of a weird situation, although I'm unsure if that's the channel to discuss this.
yeah, it's not like super important at the moment but I was just wondering if anybody knew that for sure. for future reference
maybe taking it to #spriting-discussion could help 
pretty sure different designs are allowed, but you can ask a sprite manager for clarity
Is this in regards to the game or contests?
It’s the same answer for both
You can have a more than 2 of the same fusion if they are undoubtedly different sprites
So I have an idea for an event
Is that something I submit to the pinned form? Cuz it says it's a competition or themed contest, so I'm not sure
if its one that you wanna run then you post it in #1222376526805209201 
Ohh
or one you have the idea of, thats typically where that stuff goes
I thought those had to be officially approved
I'm confused now
basically, you can run any event in mini spriter events
Ahhh
if your event gets popular enough, then you can be given the mime jr role and you get your own thread (e.g. prize hunters, Magikarp Mysteries, theme blitz)
Ohhhh I see
Cool
but ye, talk to the people over in mini events, we aren't that scary 
I love mini events because it makes me feel like an investor getting in on the ground floor 
Lol
it's also nice to be able to help with initial feedback for events
You’ll notice how immediately after the first go both Prize Hunters and Rare Pokémon Guild got their own threads
Rare pokemon guild 
Aka, the RPG
Oh huh
Could’ve sworn it had
Well, it’s slated for one, at least
there were 2 prize hunters before it was a thread 
Alright fine everything I say is wrong! 
Kick me when I’m down, why doncha? 
Thats what im here for 
I do 
🦶 
Can you give me one
Here's my submissions to the hoenn contest, i have high fate in the ||trevenant/crawdaunt|| and ||camerupt/clamperl||, for the other, we'll see x)
nice crab
it's not a crab tho
eh crawfish
oh yeh its a tree
i like how my two camerupt are very different, one is angry little boy, the other is sleeping x)
also, it was a hell to sprite the mini camerupt xD
a week?
all my entries are still placeholders
Oh yeah when does that contest end submissions?
Oh nevermind it just recently got a new announcement to say that
I'll try to get a second one in since I got a new idea I like.
i wanna get one entry replaced but the replacement is just about done
i'm running into the issue of all my hoenn mons being made from custom bases so i can't use them in a comp 
maybe i should try to make some ones with GF bases 
oh yeah i need to submit my other hoenn sprite
theres an hoenn contest
the only hoenn sprites i have are my spheal/mudkip line and my favoritist one i cant even submit to the contest its a collab😢
Unless the the base maker states otherwise, you are allowed to use custom bases in contests by default
ohhh, i thought it was the other way around lol
Same
i'll have to check assets gallery then 
Most bases are ok for contests
maybe you were just used to looking at gasmaskblacky bases 
they are some of the ones i look at the most, that would make sense
All of my bases (except for the Talonflames) are fine in contests 
Sprites with well done wings are really magical
Truly, part of my comment addresses that 
current set of contest entries i would've liked better ones, but i've been taking a bit of a spriting break
if i had a nickel for every time i had a spriting burnout during mergemay id have 2 nickels
which is weird because i didn’t even sprite all of mergemay this year
nice Crawb 
Ghetsis is still keeping their mod hostage.
Dang
I don't know if they still mad at me for saying that I wished an alternate universe version of them had died at the climax of the b2w2 games.
🫂
are we showing off contest entries? 
reuniclus and clamperl and maybe solrock ar ep rolly gonna get replace
todays mergemay sprite might make it in
likely over clamperl
not aiming for a place but just feedback overall. maybe ill do a groudon/camerupt but these are the few i currently have tossing into the ballpit. got 2 other Wip aswell which are probs going to be my 'main' entries
plus ilove seeing amazingly gorgeus sprites next to my smol bois
reminder of the design a hoenn grunt contest https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Nlo2cdu8ExTt7BYnOasvKV4quXciEMFM?usp=drive_link
all the PotW 'mons are already in my spritedex
im making squirtle/weezing and the reverse i think :3
I think if you get more contrast on the volcano it'll look much better
Same 
eugh... drawing squirtle's shell is difficult
perhaps it will be a shelless turtle
You're going to kill it 
Noo pokemon are just... Eh.. faint. Yeah they don't die they just faint
It could be half absol
Nooooo
what if
half is absol
and the other half
is also absol
Huh, I could join, but where drive
its looking like a real bear to judge atm, theres a lot of submissions
we will know who wins in 3 months 
Oh huh I could totally submit the beautifly I did for Prize Hunters 🤔
it is raining like crazy rn, i think im gonna make a castform fusion or somethin
Love the inspo
🤔 so for the Hoenn contest, i have these possible options
hmm, and up to six?
i kinda don't want to enter the delcatty, since i don't think i can bear criticism of it 🤔
rn, i'm thinking the zoroark, the lugia, the dustox, and the camerupt are my best, with maybe throwing in the plusle for lols
I really like the Flygon
🤔 of course, another way of approaching the contest would be not "what are my best works?" but "what works could i appreciate advice on?"
So like, are there no more contest polls?
We still have those, not sure what determines which way they decide to do a contest
But there will definitely be contests in the future that use polls
Contest with polls definitely have a different meta
I just make sprites that fill me with joy the same way regardless
They got squared 
square spheal when
big and flashy sprite meta
Poll contest meta = kaiju and/or SFX meta
or make what the judges hate meta
Judge contest meta = flip a coin
Personally i prefer Judge contests, since i get to see comments and/or feedback with my sprites
This is also my first contest since coming back from hiatus, so with 6 entries, i get 6 times the comments/feedback
I've been meaning to ask, at some point these little badges started popping up on people and I have no idea what they are. Like why does NotToSprote have a big "❤️ ASS" label. What does it mean? What secrets does it hold??? 
they're server tags
it's a nitro feature where level 2(?) servers can have a 4 letter icon show up next to anyone's name if they enable it
it's a fun feature
not only do i get to subtlely plug a server but i get to make cool wordplay with my server name too
like this is such a beautiful name lmao
Oh I see
never been this confident that a sprote of mine will get a high placement in a contestt
although should I lower the snowflakes sfx?
nah i think it's fine
judges when they dont understand the ref ✊ 😔
that mean i support artist
they always ask "is this a reference" but it's not a ref
when people see good design : is this a ref
people can't make good design without ref
i think especially "themed" designs?
I believe when they ask if something is a reference, more often than not, it's because the fusion isn't very clear on the materials used
it lasts for a month and has a very wide range of eligible fusions
yeh
i gotta get a sixth entry in
like, a contest worthy one. I have plenty of options but some are just eh
i was thinking abouta shiftry head maybe i make that
Still haven't decided my 6th entry yet.
The lunatone Kyogre can definitely do well in the contest
Carbink contest had so many entries lmao
I'll have to see which one had more entries
little cup
Removed my Hoenn entries to make less work for the judges

these are my current entries for the hoenn contest
im still really hurt by the one concept craze i managed to get the energy to join having 0 collage results image for either one, it's like it didnt even exist
it makes me feel like my art isnt good enough
Oh sick, glad I haven’t posted my Weezing sprite yet lol
@timid ruin your people need you
which on?
im so sorry
the void one, before the mother one
Omg
I forgot to add the collage image for the second announcement and I'm realizing it now
The first one has all of them tho
what how did i miss the collage omf
I always preferred gen 3 design over gen 6 one
same, outfits just contrasted better
Now u can do your own versión with your favorite part of either and anything else u want! I mean as long as the team are recognizable
I even remember you saying this lol #1279489583393800256 message
in my defense its been a VERY long work week lol
its okay lol
which would you consider a stronger entry for the hoenn contest?
i like the idea on the reuniclus but i have better technicals to showcase on relicanth
i would go relicanth for the technicals, but i personally prefer reuniclus
i prefer relicanth tbh
👍
Relicanth, even though I really like that reuniclus concept 
i mainly did it for the alt 
Haha! Love it, a whole galaxy in a cell
the biggest gummy
wanna know the freaky thing? this thing battles fine
!battle

Casually avoiding square sprite syndrome 
Difine "fine" pls
it has minimal cropping
and its sitting on the field more or less
i have seen people get worse poses on abra or sth 
Same, it’s actually nicely done for something so silly
As team silly I endorse this creature, silly little big guy :3
I love it!
Apparently I was really going through it May 7th, I'm not sure why I named my files like this
Clearly May 7th was a rough one
me
smh Pory cut out the rest of my explanation....
To quote a judges' comment on a similarly small mon....
To me, the most impressive base is one for a mon that is not really known for varied and dynamic angles and that breathes new life and potential into it.
And while there is a couple of problems with the Wingull, it certainly accomplishes that for a mon often than not little remembered outside of Mr. Briney's "Peeko" or constant pestering encounters on the various routes throughout Hoenn. I'd say it's certainly deserving of atleast some recognition
custom base results
congrats to the winners ^w^
these are just spotlights
:O
pls let me win once
Winners is soon™...
Soon....
gulpin mention
||judges hate waifus confirmed||
congrats to the winners!
alright 😮💨 time to see how badly i did
and uh, it was 3 entries pp right?
I am a big believer of large lad
lmao, this is the best i've done in a contest so far
that was almost my 11
Figures that the podium was dominated by Hoenn mons
the head was the biggest drawback to me tbh
blue Hoenn mons, no less
you should stop distracting me so that I may role you 
true, we only like pokemon 
I shall correct the banding on my spheal and finally send them off to asset gallery 
So I have not been here in quite a minute
Anyone want to refresh me on what's been going on lately?
I know something's going on with team rainbow rocket
But that's about all I know
I also know about the hoenn sequel
Team Rocket was present for April and then got routed
Team Rainbow Rocket is over
Oh that ended a while ago
Oh
I put them in the volcano
they kidnapped all the mods and took over their roles
those two lingered because ???
i think they got fused
Cause Hoenn pokemon added 
I don't remember what they called the fused Maxie and archies
So I knew about the hoenn stuff
But what's with all the events?
marchie and arxie
So I was close
More events = more new sprites for new hoenn mons + fun
Gotcha
I really need to catch up with marshtomo
I'm pretty sure by more @supple mulch has beaten my record for most Marshtomp sprays
and now things have slid into MergeMay, so there's a bit of 🤔 possible burnout possible
Yeah lmao
who's spraying what on marshtomp now?
just wait for Pride Rush 
Minior rush for pride next month too
that's the final nail on the coffin
I am very happy to see that seviper and zangoose
i'm just glad we didn't have an easter rush
that would've drowned everyone
which is why July won't have anything
that was by design 
oh thank god
i was thinking some sort of decal like team flags or smth? from ages ago
Anyway, now that almost all of my finals are over, and I'm finally going to be able to go home for the summer, hopefully I'll be able to get back into the mood of making sprites
But I am out of the habit lol
I have several concepts and a couple sprites premade, I just need to not sprite for the next week-ish to have energy for more miniors
I'm going to have to spend like a year regaining my skills
Only to lose interest once again
Mood
Also, can someone explain to me what exactly the sequel is?
I remember a long while ago there was a joke sequel event for the 3DS
i lost motivation after seeing how bad i am in contests
That was a bit of a turn down for me, but it was mostly just because I got busy
And then started an event I couldn't finish
That I'm finally coming back to now
After letting down all the people who might have been somewhat interested
I basically got told I shouldn't have fun spriting my little guys and that turned me off lol
Also I started playing TF2 during class instead of making sprites
Fair enough
And not paying attention during my classes was the prime time for making sprites
we don't know yet beyond what was said in the announcements
What has been said?
you're not bad thou 🙂↕️
literally just this and the following couple announcements, i think #announcements message
i don't get top 3
not even top 10
Anyway, so when are we going to get the rest of generation 4?
Not the name change 😭
I was excited for hoenn, but I REALLY want drapion and buizel
It's not that easy lmao
i feel ya there
hence (if you scroll up a bit) i've been considering what, if any, sprites i should submit to the hoenn contest
such as whether i want to show off something i'm proud of, or offer up something i think would benefit from feedback
@cyan gull Can the Newest Contest Champion role be ranked higher than Zigzagoon/Staff helper role? 
heh, i usually don't even break top half of entries
Also, most important question of all
What contests are still going on that I can make a Sprite for and enter?
I'd say words, but I don't want to take out the anonymity of the judges
I keep seeing these results, but I'm having a hard time finding the announcements for the start of the contests
Spritedoku for sure
but believe me, you're not bad
also #recurring-events
Love this feedback on my sprite XD
Hoenn contest submissions close on Wednesday
Either half needs to be one of the new Hoenn moms
Any fusion that uses one new hoenn pokemon
all my entries are still placeholders
oh right!
one of the feedback i got for one of my entries is that most GameFreak sprites would get 5s
so that's kinda how you should calibrate your expectations
Ok
In other news, I finally started playing Pokemon emerald
As big of a fan I am, I actually haven't played much of the actual games
GameFreak sprites are bad
sure
Yeah they make some questionable decisions like with Luvdisc 
After like a week, I have beaten winona
I’d argue that we just have high standards 
had to dig up the announcement: #event-announcements message
thank Arceus we do
IM GOING TO SCREAM I FORGOT TO ADD THE FUCKING TEETH
Someone actually kill me now send an orbital strike or missile please
for someone liking GF sprites that's just low ass standards
Okay so I don't have time to submit
Noooooooooooooooooo
Or at least I don't have time to make something for it
you would've done so well with the 
I still got one more exam
why just not give him teeth instead of orbital strikes
you made some judges really upset
go pray
By the way what do these labels mean?
If you make a full game, you get the privilege of setting your own standards 
i mean, you can throw something together and treat it as a special feedback session 
Yeah, but I'd rather wait until I have actual free time
don't care that much, they're just the columns within comments
The amount of comments in that column
Very unimportant
Instead of time when I need to be packing and studying
LMAO YOUR ICON
the screecher
Oh okay got it
Congrats Test~
also my standards are "be better than the original, become the original"
my nice shade of teal 😡
Congrats Test!
Though Idk what you won because I can't see the event announcements.
HIIIII PINK 
Hello!!
why? tf
scroll all the way up
#event-announcements
It’s mine now 
Oh, the base contest! Nice!! 
FYI, the Metagross base is free to use in other contests 
champion buff
Time to dock any sprite using it 
The server icon hasn't changed yet, but I'm guessing base contests don't count for that?
did you joined the base contest? hru? 
the orbital strike is for me as the penalty for forgetting

No, I'm too slow at spriting! I am working on a second entry for the Hoenn contest!
- Server for Pokémon Infinite Fusion
- Looks at server picture
- Metagross
but
I... forgot
Peak
didn't it
Your call, big man
i'm the opposite
i specially don't allow my base entries for contests (even they are bad)
@cyan gull já não fechou o trem do Hoenn Contest?
Não.
🤨
I can't see it. 
who tf said it closed wednesday
but if you don't give him his teeth, who will do so? the tooth fairy?
1 month of contest to let it bleed into Mergemay
Congrats base contest winners 
Do it 
The irony will be immaculate
you mf I misread it thinking you said they closed already
I mean, technically, it still counts
He is part iron, as a steel type 
I am curious if this contest made any people discover they now love or hate making bases
I quite like them but they’re harder than fusions imo 
Metagross is one of the first pokemon that created the term of fusion
all Metagross line are just a bunch of the same species fused to each other
totally agree
the judges hate my style so much
Slowbro was the first fusion
it depends on my mood i kind of like making bases cuz i actually have to Think about style here and keep it at least semi accurate to gen 5 
Stop ittttt
they don't, is just that your style doesn't seem to fit always 😔
I don't hate you
I think having a style is antithetical to bases unfortunately
for what it’s worth I like your style but it’s also very recognisable
doubled edged sword
^
I never made a base or a self fusion before. It is something I should explore for sure, but I'm not very easily inspired.
It's like Mr. Ozcraft, who has some of the nicest bases
but they're so stylized, you can tell whatever you fuse with them use them 
Yeah it’s a fun trade off sometimes, don’t need to think up a fusion but also the standards are high because everyone knows what the basic Pokémon is supposed to look like 
and your mistakes translate to other pokemon 
magnemite, tho
had to look that guy up for a second ohhhh the banette base guy
That too 
I'm mostly sad I wanted to try something different and got last for doing so ):
Don't take that as a bad thing, it's a stellar pose and what you did you did cleanly
None of the points are wrong, just still disappointed in me self
This was the contest where being different is a bad thing 
it was a legitimately cool sprite, but it doesn't really function as a base for other fusions (although it looks sick as an in-game encounter)
magnemite ain't fused, they're just glued to each other 
it's like splicing another magnemite 2x 
Doduo comes fused out of the box
true
Magnemite triple self fusion 
I don't recall any of the entries and never know any of the authors
oh man imagine if it were suddenly all throuple self-fusions were a thing
They're likely
magnetized together
OH THE DUCK IS YOURS???
throuple
Whose?
I was aiming the orange
I've never seen these words in this order
yeah, like Big Bird and Bigger Bird
and what Marty McFly has and what the Remix!Champion used to have
they forgot the preposition
*for the orange 🍊
Who's the orange
no no no
Ohh
borage? 
ornange*
Yes, I am the duck man
But i am pivoting to the bug with a jacket guy
Might be both
but have you fused them together yet 
Soon ™️
Status for April Fools Polls: Things are looking better, I will most likely start up polls this weekend on the 23rd.
I’m curious to see how you give this contest some semblance of balance 
i think big canvas sprites will have an advantage
Oh, hi Metagross~
given the varied category elements, the judges will only be rating on a scale of irreverence/10
for example, my entry will be given a rating like veiny flames/10 😌
"But Worm, isn't this getting a public vote?" look i don't make the rules
Testrun I feel like the only good option now is you using your base to win the hoenn contest

I don’t use bases under any circumstance 
Damn 
No event winning base winning event... 
You should use the Metagross and win the Hoenn contest

Wait but isn't contest winning bases not contest is allowed 
Also I wanna do rockruffs for my last 3 entties cause I only did 1
And it gonna lose HORRIBLY
Smacked to the ground BURNT kicked and punched until it's breathing stop 
Not to my knowledge, no
There’s never been a base contest before now
There should be a custom base event frfr
This hurts my brain...
Jokes on you I was already confused and sleep deprived
Is that a new status effect 
I guess having a base be like 5 pixels bigger than the official sprite is now considered “too big” 
wait my barboach went that high
yeah cuz it's peak
Delayed Congrats @sly shuttle @cinder stag @echo barn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well deserved ❤️
nice color in your name, sir!
thank you :3
and congratulations @sly shuttle ! you were overdue for a contest win so i'm glad you finally got it
and @echo barn congratulations too, since you are such a big part of the custom base squad it feels well deserved you get recognition!
First one was the sprite before applying judge feedback, second one is after, is this fella set to go to assets gallery?
Also here thread #1365467225053597796
CONGRATS PODIUMERS 👏
I hope there is another custom base contest at some point in the future
Yeah it was fun 
also although I didn't enter the feedback on these is really good for learning
the gen 5 sprite has 6,981px, yours has 11,183
so in other words yours is about 60% bigger
reason #362 why the judges are anonymous I suppose
There's 361 other reasons? 
I have only 11 of them.
send it!
or roll it
spose i should do a lil touchup too
Oh I just figured out where you find the rankings on the judge sheet, I got 7th! I'm so proud of my silly spheal 

Also congrats Tak! I didn't realize your sprite was the barboach 
thanks
one thing i find strange is they wanted more cast shadows on arceus i thought we were supposed to keep bases more simple
so they are easier to use?
cause i love cast shadow and had to hold myself back D:
oh that arceus I stole the ring from was a contest entry?
ye
nice
i originally made it for the solrock fusion
but then i was like huh why not custom base
cuz i had to render it anyway
and arceus doesnt have that many
I think it's about finding a balance. A lot of judges think that most gamefreak bases aren't actually the best, so we want bases to look nicer - without going overboard. If it sounds contradictory it's probably because it is 
no i get it
everyone has different views too
it's all fine
i just went with some simpler shading in some areas cause i have been told about useability aswell which is fair
and yeah i diss GF bases all the time 
I'm curious, was fitting the canvas taken into account?
I know for fusions some people don't mind them being cut off ingame
and the current yanmega default is cut off by 1px
There is no "default", since the sprite players see is randomized among all 'main' sprites, so the Yanmega u see might not be what others see
There are also many sprites that are kinda cut off because they couldn't fit the whole sprite in, mostly Kaijus specifically, so the sprite might look a little... boxed in
Not sure to be honest, but definitely possible - Since these are custom bases we were a little harsher than usual with some of the comments.
But also we're spriters we don't play the game
so outside of size compared to the base sprite I don't recall any positioning checks
as those are not custom by spriters from here
the most unacceptable thing to me is they hate styles
I tried to impress the judges by texturing like usual contests but they seems not to notice it
ah yeah, I meant the fusiondex one that always appears on top there I know it's different ingame
okay updated mine a lil
OK cool to know thanks. it would be nice to consider especially for a custom base contest as it does limit flying mons a lot if you follow it
...and i immeditaely uploaded the old file lol
@urban siren I like your bases, especially the Lurantis, it's very nice 
but I get ya
🫂
Meh, for judges, i always assume the "safest" option is to follow gen 5 art style.
However in the end it's all a flip of a coin. Since there's several judges, it's hard to cater to all of their tastes.
And if a single judge doesn't like your sprite, it can affect your overall score
I thought they meant the actual size of the sprite itself, not the pixel count
Didn’t think 45x40 would be too big tbh
I just did the pixel count to be objective
Ok
One of my entries into this contest i experimented alot with the cloth texture, to the point i don't think it's considered gen 5 artstyle, so despite it being my favorite entry, i can already see some judges deducting points from it
Not trying to start anything btw, I just wanna make that clear
I'm really curious what gf could have done with bw sprites on current hardware w/o animations
they would have been so good
Same
the animations are good but I can imagine how much dev time they used
Yeah a lot of the gen 5 sprites have worse poses I've noticed
Hot take, but while sprites had "flavor", i much prefer the 3D models.
They are more "static" in their poses, but watching them in a 3D environment was something i always wanted as a kid.
And up till gen 8, they definitely kept improving what they had
I think that's a fair point
I will say I enjoy having them in 3D so I can pet them and play with them in pokemon camp or whatever they decide to call it X gen, but it kinda took them forever to fix up some of the more lack luster models like typhlpsion not having its cool fire most of the time until recently
I think the models could be just as fun and full of life but I really think GameFreak needs more employees or simply more time to make them nice
That's fair, but i can understand why. They had to make custom 3D models, skeletons, animations, etc, for 721 Pokemon
It's an incredibly grueling endeavor, and not something they can take (more) shortcuts than they already did
So i can kinda excuse them making some Pokemon less good looking in 3D than others
Yeah it's definitely a lot on their plate
I like 3d furret
it has a cute rubbing hand animation in battle and lively interactions
~~and ofc furret walk
~~
they needed to hire more people then 🤷♂️
When the transition between 2D sprites and 3D models came to Pokemon, Game Freak created a game where the animations, the colors and shinies were boring and we thought 3D was a bad thing for Pokemon.
Fuck it ! My time has come to show you that 3D has never been a problem for the pokemon games. It was actually possible to create a 3D pokemon gam...
look what one guy can do
GF always has a tight schedule and refuses to get the resources needed to pull it off in that time
so they just release an underbaked game
nah, if GF really cared about pokémon, they never would have went to the 3D style but more to a 2.5D style like Octopath Traveler
I do semi hate the argument of the "hire more people" thing since there's literal proof that just getting more of the right people who can do any lot of things in a short amount of time doesn't add up to a mass company because of how many higher ups and other planning they have to go through for one tiny fix
But its GF, they can really spare the budget and they don't
Pokemon literally is the biggest franchise I believe so I do truly believe that in some way shape or form the games should have better quality in them that they could put in the resources for
Mainly I think something that could help a lot is them having more time to create the games but they're under so much pressure to just keep pumping them out at such a fast pace
These silly creature collecting games mean a lot to me and I want them to have the time and space to flourish but I don't think we'll ever get that sadly
I swore off buying the games until I felt they were at a quality that the price justified again but I think in reality this is me never buying a pokemon game again
yeah i'm not saying to just "apply people to problem" but they could pay for the top devs they wanted if they cared or training or anything
See, I understand drawing a quality vs. price reason for justifying your purchase, but ultimately, as most media, it comes down to enjoyment vs. price, imo
yeah but the quality hinders my enjoyment
cuz you feel the lack of love and care
soulless
I do find it interesting that Pokémon fans keep coming back to be disappointed though, it's the same company behind the same titles making the same decisions
I quit after gen6
and I'm an outspoken gf/nintendo hater these days 
I've enjoyed every pokemon game I've played
I bought pokemon shield knowing it was my last game, I haven't come back because I know the joy I felt from these games won't be there again so it would never be worth it
spriting is better anyway 
Pretty much this for me
Originally didn't want to get SwSh because i thought Gmax looked gimmicky and silly, and i still missed Mega evolutions...
My point is that quality is but a facet of enjoyment, and it isn't necessarily the end all be all (even if I'm in full agreement with you there)
And then i saw one of their ads for their Crown of Tundra expansion, and then i was hooked to get the game
Not sure why they unlisted that ad though, it was an amazing video
I'm okay with the gimmicks rotating, for the most part
Fortunately i managed to find the video via wayback machine and saved it into my channel so i can rewatch it anytime
https://youtu.be/FLpr6QecP3U?si=SvmfhBoLqk7waO9C
I like megas, but I don't think everything should come down to megas
megas were given mostly to mons undeserving of them
Charizard got 2 
Yeah... it's stupid Garchomp, Salamence, and Ttar were given megas
yeah cause hes zard
Rip flygon my boi
And most of the time in tournaments, they never used their megas
Since their regular form + choice item or life orb was better than using a mega form
rip mega aggron THE WALL
Megas served as a pseudo-evolution, which imo most Pokémon don't need, since they can just... Evolve 
yeah mega neverclicked as much with me
terra was a better execution of that fight-only change idea
Me begging GameFreak on my hands and knees for them to give cool forms to pokemon other than charizaed
I liked it for 3 stagers that were using it as a remodel or exacerbation of their original theme
There is an advantage for some mons with Mega evolution though. Mawile for example had Intimidate in its base form, and could Mega evolve to Huge Power
It could also bait the mega evo by switching out, and then coming back in later with another Intimidate
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When Mega Aggron was first revealed I knew what had to be done, and only now did I get a 3DS Capture Mod (If you want one, check out 3dscapture.com). This was way too much fun to make.
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And specifically Pokemon like Absol, who remain better as single stagers
I mean single stage wasn't a good excuse when u could just give them an evolution (e.g. Sneasel, Misdreavous, etc)
The better justification is for 3rd stage mons since there isn't and likely will never be a 4th stage evo
They tried something with Ash-Gren which was interesting, but it didn't click
this would be amazing
Single stage mons have their place in the world, especially something like Absol, which is just designed as fully evolved, basically
I love octopath traveler 2 so much
Gen 5 remakes will bring it home, trust
Only played Octopath 1 and was greatly disappointed...
Despite it having multiple protags, their stories never seem linked at all... it was boring
It was very cookie cutter, but that's what I loved about it
It wasn't reinventing the wheel
That being said, I'm glad they addressed most of the issues in 1 for 2
I didn't play #1 but I read the reviews
#2 is mostly excellent and the stories interlink a little
single stage mons are also important for gameplay purposes, I like them
It's part of why I enjoy the gen 4 evos, they managed to make evos while not trainwrecking the original Pokemon
Speakin of single stage mons, wasn't there a Latias and Latios movie, where they were siblings, and at the end, it was revealed they had baby Latias and Latioses?
I get so confused on the implication of multiple of a legendary pokemon
Not saying there can't be but what is the lore
They're legendary basically because most people don't believe they exist, and anyone that's seen them is taken as crazy 
Rhino vs. Unicorn type of deal
You hear about Pokemon Gamma Emerald?
Someone's using Unreal to transform it into a 2.5D Game
I did see that
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THAT LOOKS AWESOME
Now just imagine if we got this for PIF 2
I mean
If the dev really wanted to they could give out the source code for people to make ROMs outta it
But nah, be too much work
Paragraph time:
I believe the distinction was clearer in the past, where the term Legendary was referred to something described as real, just either unproven or undiscovered. Examples were things like the City of Atlantis, City of Gold, or in the case of animals, Big Foot, Giant Squids, Megalodon, etc
Where as mythical is essentially described or proven as fictional (E.g. Phoenix, Minotaur, Demons, etc)
So in the 1990s, Pokemon used those terms similarly, where Legendary Pokemon are so rare, u only encounter 1 per playthrough, or none at all if u didn't have a guide
As for mythical, u couldn't get them at all except through events, so for most players, they essentially didn't exist
Lorewise it makes sense, Giant Squids were thought to be legends as well until we scientifically encountered them, it's the same for legendary Pokemon
Mythical is... less fitting, but i guess they needed a different word to seperate Legendary mons that were unobtainable
I feel like our little fan project with the thousands of different sprites we have haa too much work already 
Like PIF 
Mythicals are still legends
Yeah, that's why i said specifically "Legendary mons" that were unobtainable
Ah I see, makes sense explained that way
It should be noted there are almost no legendary animals irl as technology continues to improve, and science becomes better at distinguishing biology
We should still have some though, like the Megalodon, where our current technology is unable to explore such depths in the ocean to find traces of such creatures
I love the platypus, silly little guy is like a real life fusion!
For the same reason Lapras wasn't considered a legendary, Pokemon so rare to the point of extinction don't count as Legendaries
We need drampa aswell
What a funny thing to say about a game with a publicly accessible GitHub 
megalodon is absolutely extinct
no idea why some nutjobs went on about that a few years back
that said we ofc dont know all deep sea animals yes
deep sea and insects are the two categories we have the most to discover most likely
if something that big was hiding we'd have found traces ( like we did of the giant squid)
There was a custom base contest?
Same reason some people think the earth is flat probably ¯_(ツ)_/¯
actually the way i read it it started when disney aired a ficitional documentary that wasnt properly disclosed as being fictional
and then the theories went off
:D
Ohhh like those mermaid ones?
it was part of the RR event yeah
Man
Woman
Manwo
you'd think they'd've learned their lesson with lemmings 
ntm? is that you? 
I thought you were talking about lemmings just existing as a real animal for a second and not the myth about them so in my head I was like, "Wait are lemmings not real?!
"
oh rip 😅
yeah i mean the notion of them running off cliffs to their deaths, not their existence
for an opposite, though, that reminds me there are some people who didn't realize narwhals are real 
No? 😂
hey guys I just made a tryhard sprite and will call it ugly
It comes through a wormhole or something and isn't a baby. 😅
since I am ntm ig
I remember there being a latios and latias movie but nothing about Latichildren
thing next to your name checks out
😌
Was referring to the Pokemon Heroes movie, but after doing some checking, it seems the 2 Latios were Latias' father and brother
🤔 What big events are still going on? Hat event, Creative Writing contest, Hoenn event...
Wouldn't it be really funny if the creative writing event has the entire winning story as the server image for a day
What happened to the rule breaker contest results?
not started yet
#event-general message
#event-general message
Weird, i thought for sure it had already concluded. I recall seeing a google drive doc of the comments or something
Nvm, it was a different contest, and the sprite in question i was thinking about was a different fusion with the same head
I know what you were referring to, but I don't remember them saying its relation anywhere. 😮
I heard that they were referred to as siblings in the dub
Never actually watched it though
Idk but I won lopunny despite never having done a lopunny in my life
They have the entire story scroll one word at a time into the server icon
One letter at a time is better
In the dub, this is true- and their father was the previous Soul Dew, before Latios became it. Would have to do research on the original release to see if it's just somethin' in translation
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the npc redesign contest for the grunts is still going you got till the end of the month https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Nlo2cdu8ExTt7BYnOasvKV4quXciEMFM?usp=sharing
Someone give team aqua pirate hats or silly scuba masks please and thankyou 
i think the pirate hat would only go on the admins but in any case why not doing it yourself
But then I have to figure out how to make clothing or people 
People aren't orbs, how do you make those 
you put several orbs together and the conect them
Also is there actually no entries yet in the drive?
i know rigth now only one person said its making entries and that theyll upload them once they have all
I forgot what I submitted to the Mergemay prompt application, but Orb sounds like something I would submit. Sorry to those who don't like it.
I just got a silly idea to add to the drive to encourage people to put in submissions
I will make a silly somewhere between now and the 22nd
Also is it just team aqua grunts right now or both cause the drive when I click on it says aqua
thank u
both im reusing the folder from what was gonna be my usual team vs contest
hey guys, daily reminder of the npc redesign contest we doing the grunts something like this: obviously cant participate in my own contest but i hope this gets the creative juices flowing https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Nlo2cdu8ExTt7BYnOasvKV4quXciEMFM?usp=sharing
I wish to participate but keep putting it off
doesn;t help that I'm still behind on Mergemay
I just don't know what I'd do;;
I understand the reason for needing redesigns but the instructions have been very vague so far so I'm not sure what exactly is wanted in the redesign
and in the end they're gonna use all the sprites and make every single grunt unique
Oh fun
Oh
Yeah
https://imagedelivery.net/ICWTp6FWPGokq8hKKaA1Qg/9db6a46b-d7ba-47a7-928a-17dbd479f100/large and then magma end up bringing the heat proof suits
YES
heat proof scuba gear real?
As long as the team is recognizable u can do whatever
Honestly not a bad idea just add horns and paint it red and it works for team magma... Better than the wool sweater they use in oras
The link being shared is just a folder called "aqua"
Is that right?
Yup nobody have summited yet
Okay cool, just wanted to be sure there wasn't also supposed to be a magma folder
Theres one but that cause i was gonna run my usual team vs contest before coming up with the idea for this one and reusing the folder
Ahhh
Are we expected to submit four of each btw?
oh right the Hoenn contest closes soon
Nope just as many as u want are capable of
Everyone you gotta make clothes for Greg so they can attend the meeting!
is this what i'm supposed to be doibg
Oh my gosh I love it XD
Malxire probably wants the designs over something closer to a trainer body as opposed to my marshmallow guy but it definitely works as a design concept
Not the heat proof suit but I did end up making a silly messy mock up of one of those old diver suits for fun (drew it over an official artwork for one of the aqua trainers)
hope my entries work for the hoenn contest
gonna be a champion fight
Oh I remember seeing the carbink in spritework it's so pretty!
i like all of them fr fr
u did p well
the hoenn contest is gigastacked
Good luck hoenners
Good luck~
I'm going with these contest picks... but there are other cool ones I'm thinking about.
I'm thinking also on these. What are the best 6 overall?
Holy shit, it will take like 4 months to judge probably
Hard too pick, all are great 
Yeah they are close each other
Thinking on Bruxish/Walrein, Whiscash/Wailord, Tropius/Garchomp, Surskit/Aggron for sure. Other two may be the Onix and the Azurill (and Nuzleaf/Swampert too)
These are mine, but i wish i could've done better on the Gorebyss sprite, or make a better entry to replace it
Carbink contest had over 200 entries 
Carbink is just a cool fella
Sableye contest had 235 entries
Sableye+Carbink?
Hmm?
It was like 2 years ago the Sableye contest i think?
now we have 205 entries in hoenn
this will definitely be more
I can submit 105 sprites and this will be a record 
~~u need to submit 2000 sprites
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i think these would be my picks
6 per person 
6 hundred?
LC exists
yes
That is the point 
lc is the lightning rod of contests
anytime someone points sth out "LC has it worse
"
105 sprites isn't about submitting more sprites than any one contest has had. It's about submitting more sprites than any one person has submitted to any one contest
(That being hero and little cup)
Don't ever tell people the ratio of contest entries to judging time, it's the one metric LC can never beat 
i dont know it so i cant tell
Given the fact we don't take years to judge any other contests, I'll let you infer 
yet 
I mean
April fools is already well on its way
anyways whats that?
At this point LC has become the gta 6 meme . It will never finish
the silksong of PIF
@formal river Do we have to sprite these? Someone submitted just a concept, but I was under the impression we had to sprite them
why can i see this as sexy archie/admin face reveal
or like some plot twist that it isn't archie, or it's zinnia
I agree with Tak minus the Surskit/Aggron
The base has way too many anatomy problems to ever win a judged contest
Agree as regards anatomy problems. I used this base on Lotad/Aggron and Surskit/Aggron and made changes during spriting.
Thinking to go with Tropius/Garchomp, Whiscash/Wailord, Bruxish/Walrein, Dustox/Swampert, this Toxapex/Hariyama and one between Crawdaunt and Onix
Thank you for reminding me I still need to do a Hairy Mama
@cyan gull this guy is breaking the rules

I'm glad someone said it 
I'd give my vote for the Hariyama/Metagross over that Aggron. Although that Seviper/Onix looks quite good too
Concept is accepted but sprites get more points
i don't care about points i just don't want them to be naked
Nope we designing the npcs not just the outfit tho the design would likely be adapted to a outfit later( btw theres no guarante that frogman puts the winner in the game this contest is a test run for the idea before we go with named characters)
Ohhhhhhhhh okay
The comment about not wanting them to be naked made me think they were only outfits
nah, it was a joke on this reply XD
if his clothes exploded he'd be naked 

I have way more energy for just designing guys than spriting them so knowing we can just submit concepts is really nice
That goes for basically anything that's clothed, no?
🤔 if you put clothes on your cat and those clothes exploded, would your cat be naked?
oh wait we're slipping back into "which pokemon are naked" territory, aren't we
We do a bit of an evil one
this would be cool as an admin or just an alternate grunt
I dunno, we're wearing skin 
it could work for Tabitha 
one hour left for the hoenn contest 
WAIT WHAT
damn it I got no feedback on one of my sprites
ok I submitted one of my plus minus freaks
I summited a little goober for the funnys
it's over 
it's Hoennover
I made a LOT of concepts for the contest and I obviously am not going to be making them all
I want that Volbeat Rampardos so bad
its yours
ill make a concept thread and put claimed on it
those looks sick 
thanks!
oop almost forgot to show the best one
someone told me this would have been amazing but it has a posing issue so I had to give up on it for now, too much work to readjust the whole thing
ill show you the fixit sketch i was sent
its cuz the tail comes out of the same spot as the back looks like its coming out of
lowering the head by 2 pixels offsets the neck ring from the curved tail behind it
btw guys,
*248 entries
*
248 entries 
despair.png
maybe i should set my goal to top 20
Good thing I removed my entries
I don’t have anything to wait forever for 
noooo you removed your entries? 
you're stealing the judges jobs 
We get paid per fusion judged. Now i'm going to starve
how DARE you /silly
My sprites have honorable mention energy and that’s fine
I feel better about my chances in the hat one 
this contest is so stacked
oh hmm i see yeah thats a bit of work
hat contest got only 10 entries
my biggest disgrace, missing the hat contest
pls don't remove it again
If another hat contest ever opens I'd probably participate
Hats amirite
when hoenn dropped i didnt want to do any contest stuff i just wanted to concept
I got my design in but it's also less of a hat and more of a silly thing
I'd definitely run some more "unconventional" contests
Maybe for fusion day?
Who knows 
i made 1 sprite specifically for the hoenn comp, everything else was just random hoenn mons i'd made 
...yknow maybe i shoulda judged the contest for the thing i know how to do
damn im fucking stupid
I was really excited about spheal and just made spheal bases and in the middle of me doing that a base contest opened up so I went, "May as well." 
i should really branch out and try doing some clothing. creatures are a ton of fun but variety is good too
I’m bad at designing clothes so my hat is a creature 
I have one full outfit in the game and it’s.. fine
im trying to sprite an outfit rn and i HATE OVERWORLDS!!!! I HATE OVERWORLDS!!!!
the creature hats scare me
they are so cute
You know, we might be working on an incentive for designing CC 
when it blends in your hair:
WHY DO I KEEP DESIGNING HARD TO SPRITE OUTFITS!
right, you almost have to plan from the start how clothing will chibify, huh
someone help me make this a reality 
"I heard you were pretty strong, Ash Ketchum, how strong?"
no ref sprites, yall know this
1 lawsuit is more than enough
i actually know 0 about the trainer sprite rules 
@cyan gull Where's Lysander 😤
I killed him

Lies, slander

SAD. Well there’s other villains
Tbf if he succeeded he would've died anyways

He just wanted the world to stay beautiful 
baller move ngl
His motivations are truly inscrutable
completely destroy the world and then prevent yourself from going to jail by not being around to do so 
Lysander is the villain of all time
I just find it funny how even after being recruited into rainbow rocket, he still refuses to fight unless he has two giant buttons that can kill you in his room 
I just subscribe to Lysander being certifiable but so charismatic and intimidating, and so highly functioning due to his intelligence, that no one has actually committed him.
But he's been left alone in his insanity for so much time that his intellect has eroded, leaving only the madness.
Poor Lysandre can't get 1 person to spell his name right 
I was under the impression that the hoenn contest closed on the 24th
why did I think that
oh well, didn't get 6 sprites in.
kthen
when do the voting start and where will it be made?
Oh THAT'S how it's spelled?
This guy was doomed I was not gonna write that
I feel like my Shiftry/Chikorita would have the best chances, but at least one of my fusions was finished in time for the event
Is there a specific channel somewhere for designing trainer outfits? I may make a hat or accessory for fun at some point
I CAN but my stupid phone keeps autocorrecting it so I gave up 
Be warned - it’s a lot of work 
there's also https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1324876611119743087 for info
aw hell i forgot about the hats! 
i think i thought it closed at the end of May
eh, i'll still do my Comfey Flower Crown.
eventually
It’s not a lot, but I’m happy to get two fusions in for the Hoenn contest! Hopefully one of them does well 😄
I just wanna beat my record for average score which is currently 8.5. I don't think it will happen this time because I keep making new technical errors when agonizing over and "fixing" old ones.
One day, a sprite of mine (not collab) will get a 9!
Now I wonder what the lowest average score for a contest winner was.
I tried making a trainer outfit once
got really into making the base sprite. Then I took one look at the overworld sheet and lost all motivation 
wait how
ur sprites are really good how is that your record
i think i have seen one in the low 9 range win, like 9.3 or sth
I don't know my range, cuz contests were judged from 0-5 before my hiatus
Having 6 entries in this contest sounds like a good start to see where i lie
I mostly get 6-8.
Main criticism: fix this one mistake or too ambitious. There's always something to learn from the winning sprites which cleverly balance cleanliness and interesting details, so I gotta take what I can.
the comments i got the most are too stylized or is this a reference
Ye, you've got specific style, but I'm not sure if it's a bad thing. I grew to like seing each person's style in the fusions, even tho it bothered me in game as it was N O T P O K E M O N S T Y L E
Also uuummmw are you guys talking about the hoenn contest? Are the ratings done on the go, or what are the scores you discussed from
I'm looking back on past contests I've entered and wondering if I'll get a better average score for the Hoenn one. If I'm not winning, I would like to know if I'm going in the right direction.
i start without my own style
i got inspired by some spriters with their distinct and cute style, then developed my own
if i get good enough that the technical skills offset the style debuff, this will be a great achievement
If only someone would help me finish this diancie
I have everything, the sprite and the feedback but I just dont have the strength for it
"Will no one rid me of this turbulent diancie?" 
I think you're too hung up on that waifu comment.
You just need to be aware that the judges are as vanilla as they come... most of them at least
So the most important thing to note is whether your fusion conveys both materials used without seeming too farfetch'd, or including unnecessary components that don't belong to either
Ofc that's only when going for events. For regular sprites, do what u want
Well, for regular sprite you're also supposed to follow theses rules 
It's just more "lenient"
For main sprites anyway
This is my personal opinion but I think there are styles that are more emersion breaking and some that are less so. If a sprite looks like it belongs into a final fantasy game because it is 300% rendered to exellence, it is quite emersion breaking to me. If a sprite looks like it walked out of a idk Madoka Magica (insert any distinct anime style, really) it would also be emersion breaking. There are some that are closer to what the pokemon style also is going for so they are less heavily judged in that regard. In the end it is of course also a very subjective matter. One person might not mind while others do.
You also have to remember that we as judges adhere to a guideline, it's a bit backwards to want objective subjectivity or subjective objectivity 
We have to strike a "happy" middle ground
[coughcough] "is this a vulpix?" [clearly has nine tails]
lysanderoth...
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~~+ bruxish is a pain to sprite
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i can try to reduce the extra elements and my style a bit to see if these work 
~~sprite contests are so similar to exams
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🤔 bodies as well?
You can say it, don't be afraid
counting is just as hard as reading
What?
yes
Sorry I can't read
I'm good, isn't we?
Uuuuh 🦔
why wouldn't we
I put it in chat gpt, it says 5
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What
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