event-general

[icy jasper]

At least I had fun making the sprite

[fringe mica]

yep

sad to see it lose to Arceus/Arceus

[fading fiber]

ew genesect, hes the only mon im "missing" in the game (only have a hacked one from a wonder trade)

[fringe mica]

why do you dislike the pokemon because its the only one missing

[fading fiber]

i spit on thee 💦

[fringe mica]

get good at finding it

[fading fiber]

one day! its genesect and meloetta, can u tell i dint play much gen 5

[icy jasper]

Honestly the Arceus/Arceus is badass in my opinion

[fringe mica]

sure but its not made for the contest

if i lose to arceus arceus later in the polls imma die

something tells me ill lose to the kabutops

[fading fiber]

what was urs?

oh the sword! that one is sweet

[fringe mica]

its a calamity sword

[blissful kindle]

Talking about winning sprites is rule 7 be careful

[warped isle]

im rule 7

[slow gyro]

Yea pretty sure this is super rule 7 lol

[fading fiber]

oh i didnt know, mb ill delete!

[near horizon]

Thx for whoever voted for mines.
I hope you aren't sad that they didn't get through the first round.

(26 for Jirasir and 27 for Spirichi)

[fading fiber]

i love pincers void mouth on that!

[umbral sedge]

I hope white names get banned from voting for the next contest

[thick atlas]

thats racist

[umbral sedge]

yes.

[livid tulip]

Based

[fast bough]

My boy didn't pass

[fading fiber]

rip n dip

[quartz locust]

I voted for that one, I loved the mage theme. 😄

I'm not normally an effects guy, but you did a stellar job with the comet. ❤️

[daring mauve]

Thank you! It was my first time trying SFX so I'm really glad it was well received! 😄

[quartz locust]

Did we have the same votes? 😮

Let's not start with the circlejerking just yet. 😦

Super Effective.

[quartz locust]

I think this would have had a really solid chance if it was smaller. It's much too large compared to Umbreon. 😮

[fast bough]

Yeah maybe

[sly gorge]

great minds think alike

[fast bough]

But my similarity 1 gradient

[quartz locust]

Before the whole effects debacle, there was a whole thing called the "Kaiju Meta", which basically meant making Pokémon way larger than their sprites would normally be because bigger sprites got more votes. It kind of led to a sort of counterculture against said sprites. 😅

Which I guess is nice, because we want the sprites to fit in with the BW ones. 😃

[silver merlin]

i made some pretty small sprites with not that much sfx so i expected that outcome LOL

[fast bough]

Ah I'm relatively new here so I didn't know sorry

[quartz locust]

I also voted for your mummy. 😄

[sly gorge]

second one actually looks dope

[quartz locust]

You don't need to apologise, it's all good. 🙂

[sly gorge]

although if I said it reminded me of Sans I'd get beaten to death

[fast bough]

I voted for the darkrai one

[sly gorge]

(blue eye)

[silver merlin]

i have my history with sans related sprites 😭

LOL

thanks guys! yeah im not really in the grindset to win a contest anymore either 🚎

[sly gorge]

for me contests are just a way to show off what I'm capable of, the winning part is mostly an afterthought

[quartz locust]

That's how they should be. 😄

[sly gorge]

yep

I only really care if they get to the gallery or not lol

[fringe mica]

based

hi guys

[sly gorge]

racially motivated

[fringe mica]

i thought you would win with those

because i was voting based on what fits the most as server pfp

and i started voting the jirachi bodies

[silver merlin]

its zero what did you expect

[silver merlin]

oh really, well thank you! but smaller sprites tend to not do that well in contests its just a thing LOL

[sly gorge]

not much lmao

[silver merlin]

LOL

[umbral sedge]

[livid tulip]

Small sprites and unpopular mons are always doomed

Kaiju meta and Gardevoir meta are there as proof

[fringe mica]

i should have made my own genesect/jirachi

looking back

not a lot of genesect in the contest

only 1

purple stands out

[fringe mica]

theres metas in contests 😭

[sly gorge]

I knew I shouldn't have gone with Magneton

[livid tulip]

As long as people vote for external things over the thing we were suppose to evaluate here, yes, metas will exist

[quartz locust]

And let's not go too hard on gatekeeping them.

[fringe mica]

yes merum lets just cry about it in the other server

[silver merlin]

alright boys making your sprite bigger than 40x40 and no sfx at all

[fringe mica]

[silver merlin]

if a pokemon has sfx in its design you remove it

end of discussion

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/909667171146297354.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[sly gorge]

I think gatekeeping metas is a good idea because then people will have to vote on the most creative designs instead of the flashiest ones

[quartz locust]

It is, but we can gatekeep them after the contest, like everyone's been told multiple times now. 🙂

Don't make me start muting people, because if it keeps going then I've got no other choice. 😅

[fringe mica]

if i remove the cancer pentagon sfx does the galaxy aura on the blade count (this is the non contest main so i can talk about this)

because this is based on the calamity sword

galaxia

its prolly still sfx because thats not in the jirachi official sprite

[silver merlin]

yes

[quartz locust]

Yes, or if it doesn't, it's a reference sprite anyway. 😛

[silver merlin]

:3

[fringe mica]

crying emoji

anyway

[fading fiber]

so scrolling thru the past contests, i see the meta is "kaiju" but i think thats a good thing. The bigger the mon, the more room there is to have detail and show skill

(sry tiny mon fans T-T)

[fringe mica]

sure but most of the kaiju is recolored ttars or sumn

[quartz locust]

No, that's not what it means. 😛

It means "I'm going to make an Eevee sprite that's 86x94 pixels". 😅

[fringe mica]

or just use gigantamax eevee sprite

[fading fiber]

k well that seems like a rules issue. Keep mons within a couple pixels of the origional

[quartz locust]

Oddly, that wouldn't be as bad. 😮

[fading fiber]

i almost posted mine too big, i didnt even think of it. It was somone in spritework who pointed it out. Might be nice to have a rule in place

[livid tulip]

Ehhh not really? You can do good and small sprites. It's just matter of skill. If you aren't able to show the design in its accurate sizing, then you aren't doing a good job there.
You don't need bunch of details on Buneary to show a Buneary fusion, for example

[fading fiber]

Just harder to add detail in a smaller mon, so the chanses of it winning r slimer. Its just an observation, not fact

[fringe mica]

yeah just be gdei

if the whitenames are voting whatevers flashy then you did a great job making it flashy and eye catching

food for thought

[livid tulip]

I couldn't care less about winning. I care about doing good sprites. And a Buneary sprite that is double the size than the actual Buneary size won't look good in a game that it's supposed to be a Pokémon fangame

[fading fiber]

thats a whole dif thing. It would be fun to post 2 pols: one for spriters, one for non and see if they differ

[fringe mica]

i should have done that

my entry is for the contest but i removed some sfx to be game compatible

i should have made a genesect jirachi

[sly gorge]

b-b-b-bb-b-b-but giygas effects...

[fringe mica]

for the spriters

genesect doesnt have sfx

[quartz locust]

It's impossible to solidly police other than "heavily reference the size of the original Pokémon", because the size can change depending on things like posing and whatnot as well. 😛

[fringe mica]

unlessu put a ball projectile thats about to be loaded

i wonder if i can start a genesect sfx trend

[quartz locust]

Excuse me, it famously has a cosmic effect, a honey effect, some water, lightning, fire, gas, smoke, cotton, vines and psychic effects.

[quartz locust]

[fading fiber]

sfx
sfx
SFX
SFX!!!!

[quartz locust]

Realistically, if it did have effects, they'd change depending on the Drive. 😅

[fringe mica]

ill pull a hero.drawing with the chandelures and post multiple genesect heads with the loading projectile sfx so ppl think its a new trend

[fringe mica]

ill take that into account

my genesect fusions dont even have sfx its just the drive color being an accent color of the main being purple

purple and yellow is an underrated color combination

and my favorite

[random crypt]

sfx is great when used tastefully, don't @ me

[fading fiber]

agreed. Where r my purrloin fusions at!

[fringe mica]

sfx depends on the execution

👍

agreed

as long as it makes sense and executed right

im gonna avoid talking about my sprite

[umbral sedge]

It is SFX but without the cancer pentagon and such, I think it's a servicable amount

[fringe mica]

[random crypt]

this

I don't think there's a black and white "sfx bad" or "sfx good"

[fading fiber]

thats my least fav part of my sprite... I ran out of time and just place dots around saying they r "stars"

[fringe mica]

it makes sense okay

hi guys

[livid tulip]

And I would say that depends on the Pokémon, because normally it's used as an excuse to not use the original designs you're fusing (ie fill the design with fire effects instead of using something that any of the two fused Pokémon have)

[fringe mica]

yep

[random crypt]

imagine using nuance though /s

[quartz locust]

I tend not to go for effects too often, but I like this sprite of mine because I gave a story to why they were there. 🙂

Feedback doesn't go in this channel, it goes in #1050404143807873157. 🙂

[random crypt]

I love him

[quartz locust]

Oh that was the alt, I made him cry for the main. 😂

[tepid reef]

Nowdays even some of the main sprites aren't accurately sized so...

[livid tulip]

That's an issue of not feedback in the right moment. I resized some of my fusions even after being in the pack when I realized they had the wrong sizing or when someone told me

Precisely I recently asked in sprite-errors to change one due this to make my sprite smaller

And no one asked me to do it, but I did because I know it should be smaller and I failed when I did it first time. And I'll do it with other sprites I know that I must edit, too. In the end it's just of improve your skills and learn how a sprite must be. Lack of design is as problematic as an overdesigned sprite, and sizes are part of the coherency between species and other sprites, so they are also something that spriters must take into account

[tepid reef]

At least the sprites being to big isn't as bad as their proportions being messed up

||Which some of the base sprites also currently have lol||

[livid tulip]

Just to make an example, I'll use this Electivire/Rotom I made time ago. Probably in other case someone would make a incredibly big Rotom body to give it more "details", but are these details so necessary for the design to work? This applies with any small Pokémon that it's upscaled drastically, of course.
Of course I'm not saying they must be 1:1, especially if they insert details which will inevitably increase the size of the design (ie Loppuny ears on an earless Pokémon like Voltorb) but this is where we need to know how to draw the line

[quartz locust]

Honestly, my favourite sprites are those that are small yet detailed, but still in the Pokémon style. 😄

Not necessarily linked to how I'll vote in a contest, it's just a general trend. 🙂

[livid tulip]

Well, to me it's very linked. I could vote a fusion between two of my least favourite Pokémon if that one looks more like a fusion than one between two of my favourites. I try to be as objective as possible based on the main idea of what is intended to be achieved in contests, and I prefer reward people that does the work as it was intended even if it's not for my tastes

That's the same reason I give the benefit of doubt of some Pokémon designs that I feel "meh" the first time I see them

[wooden pine]

I might not understand everything buy why isn't A5 in the next polls ? #contest-polls message

[livid tulip]

#event-announcements message

[wooden pine]

That's the part I was missing thanks

[tepid reef]

I like based fusions the most, those where you can see the spriters certainly knew what they were doing

[uncut flint]

I missed first round of voting whoops

[cloud solstice]

Based? As in they use a base? Or that they have a concept art?

[tepid reef]

Based as in opposite of cringe

[cloud solstice]

Idk how you can tell that 😅

[tepid reef]

It's usually in the technique

[uncut flint]

I too like art that is good and not bad

[livid tulip]

I like the fusions where the spriter did a designer work fusing both designs with the least use of external media or resources possible

[tepid reef]

Yeah!

[livid tulip]

Basically, fusions that function as species, while still looking like the two Pokémon they are intended to be

[tepid reef]

You're so right for that

[uncut flint]

Reference fusions are always just alts anyways

[fringe mica]

me, a genesect spriter:

[fringe mica]

depends

if you can easily tell what 2 pokemon it is it can be main

[fringe mica]

and youre a probopass spriter

[livid tulip]

Not always, sometimes they become main

[tepid reef]

Although for based fusions I meant the execution

Break as many outlines as you want king

[uncut flint]

Oh yea I liked your probopass jirachi, bracket had too much sfx for it to make it tho sadly

[tepid reef]

#sprite-gallery message

[livid tulip]

And even my Miltank fusion that it's on the line of the rest of Miltank fusions here is intended to look as a living being too (more in the line of the artifact/living object Pokémon ones, but living being after all)

[tepid reef]

Myeah, it's not too hard even

They just still need to look like a fusion

[livid tulip]

I don't even know the context of that Pokémon and yes I would think it's not a reference at all but a fusion

But some references are... too much. Or don't look as one of the two Pokémon at all

[uncut flint]

Yea I cant tell that ones a ref at all, whats the reference?

[tepid reef]

Rauru from Zelda: TotK

[livid tulip]

I always use the same example, but if someone does a Crewmate for a Ditto fusion, then it's not a Ditto fusion but a Crewmate fusion

Same with the tons of Porygon fusions that are clearly not Porygon fusions (or the other Pokémon in some cases)

[uncut flint]

Yea some porygon fusions are definintly a bit too creative

Lots of the like pixelly
/virus effect bird or pixelly/virus effect fish and you have to guess which fish pokemon or which bird pokemon its fused with

[livid tulip]

I don't think creative is the word. They just want to make a reference and they do. And of course they need pixel art skills to do them (in some cases) but in the end it's just like doing a fanart, instead of designing something new using your own creativity

And all fusions are fanarts but the difference is that these fanarts are done by fusing concepts of two Pokémon in the same design, while references are fanarts of something else that most times have nothing to do with any of the two fused Pokémon

In other words: it's not the same drawing Pikachu than design Pikachu by yourself

[quartz locust]

References are fine if the sprite's fine on a technical level, we don't need to continue gatekeeping. 😅

[thick atlas]

im old fashioned. for a fusion it should be clear whats head and body pokemon. if thats fine i dont care if its a ref or not

[crisp cargo]

wait so what's the context of this convo to be done in #event-general instead of #spriter-general

[livid tulip]

Because, due to the nature of this channel, it always ends up deviating according to the type of conversation. If you talk a lot about the contest, you end up breaking rule 7 and if you start talking about another topic, you break rule 4

The best thing you can do is not using this channel at all while a contest is ongoing

[quartz locust]

Not really, that's mostly been a you thing recently.

[livid tulip]

No idea then. I was called out in both cases now so I'm not really sure what I should say here then. But I would like to know which messages are allowed and which ones are not in more detail so as not to break any rule in the future

[quartz locust]

Not speaking so directly about swathes of sprites currently being voted on would be a start. 😅

Like yes, you're not talking about a specific sprite, but "I don't like x spriting technique for y reason" still has the potential to influence votes. 😮

Whereas "I'm having a tough time picking because I like all the sprites" is much more vague and difficult to associate with any one sprite/group of sprites. 🙂

[livid tulip]

Would this conversation can be done in #spriter-general ?

Opinions about techniques and all things about spriting, designing and more

[fast delta]

There aren't any channels for that kind of thing!

[cloud solstice]

Time to make one

In #1110678444896964628 x)

Jokes aside maybe #spriter-general-lounge ou #spriter-general ?

[livid tulip]

That's why I asked. If that's the case then I'll move to these channels when we will talk about designing, because I'm really passionate with that theme so I like to talk about designs a lot

[tepid reef]

Peeps seem more willing to talk about spriting here, because of all the topics, coming out of the contests

[cloud solstice]

I agree that it would be nice to have a channel for discussing techniques, it would complement #spriting-guidelines well I think

[fast delta]

It was suggested in discord-suggestions a ways back, I think the vote was split? Got buried anyway.

[livid tulip]

Actually makes sense, considering what are we evaluating. But if that's a problem then I prefer not talk at all until the contest ends to not influence votes

So good luck everyone and see you when the contest ends

[cloud solstice]

See you in a few days 👋

[tepid reef]

The thing about influencing votes seems funny, I really doubt we could do that, because it really is just an personal opinion, which shouldn't really be pressuring anyone to actually vote differently...

Like... what are we

Minecraft Dream or something?

[cloud solstice]

There's that but there was also a bit of dissing on the people bc they did sfx

[stuck hare]

Yeah but we can change people’s opinions, it’s just dependant on how willing people are to to listen, so it’ll probably have an effect on at least someone

[tepid reef]

Maybe in some cases, although I think "dissing" might be an exegguration

It's not really a personal thing too

It's more about the concept

Iirc, I've only seen peeps joking about hero's sfx, because of the last time, where it was against the rules and he wasn't a fan

That's like the worst it got

[cloud solstice]

Yes but there are a lot of participants who used sfx, and like, talking about it in the channel next to it is a bit much imao

For hero's sfx, the debate got out of hand and the thread was locked

[silver solar]

Last time the rules for what was and wasn’t sfx were also being figured out

[quartz locust]

You'd be very, very surprised. We've seen it before, otherwise we wouldn't have a rule about it. 😛

Nobody was speaking about Knuckles in this channel?

[silver solar]

Oops

I thought i was in #spriter-general where he was mentioned

Lemme just copy/paste that

[quartz locust]

Rule 4. 😛

[silver solar]

as if this channel doesn’t go on tangents regularly lol

Tbh i think the no sfx rule was also in a bad contest for that because some Pokémon just really lend themselves to sfx

[vestal silo]

Diglette contest, no dirt allowed

[quartz locust]

Can we talk about this after the contest, please? I've said this like four times now.

[silver solar]

That wasnt about this contest, but also I didn’t backread the last discussions so I apologize for bringing it up again.

[fringe mica]

I have a tough time picking because theyre all sfx /s

[thick atlas]

then dont

[normal oyster]

Canon event

[dawn prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/super-f-fail-failure-me-when-the-noob-gif-25904886

If following rule 7 was a class

[hollow sky]

LOL

[slow gyro]

Lmao

Let’s do a Typhlosion contest but we can’t use fire, so it looks like the 3D model

[ashen sapphire]

that's cursed

[tepid reef]

🐱

[fringe mica]

i would have failed first day

[dull mortar]

contest where you peal the fusion

[slow gyro]

It’ll be super fun to have a Non-If fusion contest

[ashen sapphire]

that'd be a really cool contest idea, I'd probably do glimmora/flygon

[late sequoia]

There would be so many cursed entries using Rellor's face. I made one for April Fool's day that was Rellor/Cetoddle. By far my most cursed sprite

[thin dove]

ah man i'm excited and terrified of the immediate loss into the spriter-general sea the essays will be in there. maybe spriter-general-lounge?

[plush vale]

it's also just liable to have people campaigning for one drawing attention to one, best to have people vote indpendently

[limber venture]

polls soon yaaaay

[hollow sky]

yaaaaay

XDDDD

[dull mortar]

[slow gyro]

Hell yea

[hollow sky]

cant see them

xd

[daring mauve]

Which placements advance?

[limber venture]

Refresh discord

[limber venture]

First of each poll goes to the finals

[uncut shadow]

anonymous where?

[daring mauve]

So sad that the Kecleon didn't make it, that was my fave of the whole bunch 😭

[uncut shadow]

the votes are pblic

[thin dove]

the kecleon was so nice

[daring mauve]

Good luck everyone in the finals!

[thin dove]

so was the entei

[zinc lion]

what is the last fusion of the last poll i do not recognize it

[plush vale]

one of polls is a hard choice hrmm

[thin dove]

and the aggron

[limber venture]

The bot just sucks, I can't do anything about it

[uncut shadow]

oh ok

[thin dove]

last fusion last poll is jirachi/kabutops

[plush vale]

kabutops

[cold bay]

The jirachi ones are all so good omg

[blissful kindle]

Me searching for the Jirachi head on the Jirachi head fusions

https://tenor.com/view/looking-around-what-confused-gif-21065154

[plush vale]

lotta fusions hybridize more, it's not incorrect

[stray condor]

Uh

[hollow sky]

me when rule 7 lasts for more than 10 seconds

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-sorprendido-shaquille-oneal-gif-23222312

[stray condor]

Is being able to see the amount of reactions an error

[ashen sapphire]

I'm glad you liked it, it may not have continued on but it continues on my heart <3

[hollow sky]

pretty damn good

[thin dove]

i loved the blues in this piece, the shading, it was all very nice

SFX on this one are tasteful and not overdone

[ashen sapphire]

the blues were borrowed from gen 3 jirachi

[thin dove]

ooooh

[molten vector]

I loved him so much, I wish he made it to the semis

[dull mortar]

rip pyukumuku, maybe now I'll go to the effort of figuring out how to fix and resubmit sprites to make you better

[hollow sky]

i was out first round without any surprise lol

[dull mortar]

the kecleon's so cute I like how gentle they are

[thin dove]

do you want feedback on that? I thought about a thing or two when i saw that one

[dull mortar]

go for it, I think it could've stood to be more jirachi but at the time I didn't think it'd look good

[thin dove]

when i saw that sprite, my impression was that it was a phenominally done sprite, but it looked more like a regional

[dull mortar]

I can't balance the thought 'do sfx' with 'do a fusion' as it turns out

[thin dove]

i wasn't sure if i would read jirachi out of that if i didn't know beforehand

[blissful kindle]

Good and real Jirachi head, You have my prayers

[ashen sapphire]

also: my wife made it to quarterfinals and I'm really proud of her (she made the pawniard/jirachi with the ninja stars)

[dull mortar]

yeah thats fair! and I agree. I want to go back to it sometime after this and give it More. Might change the color palette to be more like jirachis too since I'm not going to be concerned about standing out from other fusions <:y

congrats to your wife!

[civic mauve]

Looks like both of mine got knocked out this round, but they both got second in their respective brackets so I'll take it ^^

This one was my baby, I thought it turned out pretty well and I'm glad it did as well as it did considering the lack of sfx and the fact that I didn't upscale it from the base sprite

I liked how this one came out too, I'd planned on adding more sfx but couldn't get them to look right so I ended up playing it safe

[dull mortar]

I love entrachi so much

and zekrom is fuckin sick

[wooden root]

I... Mine is in the semis???????

[civic mauve]

I actually posted the base I made for the Zekrom if anyone wants to make their own, it's based on a card tho so I can't claim credit for how cool it looks ^^

[wooden root]

HOW???????????

I was certain I wouldn't make it past the first round, what is happening??????

[cloud solstice]

welp, it's over for mines too
Ho well, my fish barely got in quarters so I knew it wasn't going to cut it

[wooden root]

I absolutely ADORE your Seaking 🥹

[lunar comet]

Keckrachi didn't make it, I cri ;-;

[wooden root]

This lil guy is so cute! And the shading on the clouds is INCREDIBLE

There was a LOT of insanely good competition in the quarters, every sprite in each bracket was amazing!

[livid tulip]

I voted for both in their respective groups. Shame they didn't pass, I think they are perfect fusions

[drifting wave]

ngl I genuinely thought this one was gunna go the distance

[wooden root]

Good luck to everyone in the semis!!

[thin dove]

your reshiram was phenominal! Doing a snout on such a small scale is not easy

[surreal folio]

i voted. can i have a cookie?

[thin dove]

i think the fish was a bit busy though

[fierce flume]

For what it’s worth I loved your fish, made Seaking look good

[cloud pulsar]

of course

[surreal folio]

i didnt make it past the first roundd so gj. 🥲

[tawdry pelican]

Might as well post mine here now that it's out, got a ton of help in my spritework thread which I am really grateful for, and I felt like I learned a lot from the contest, looking foward to the next one

[ashen sapphire]

I really like that one c:

[glad sail]

The problem we’re having is there’s too many high quality sprites, most of them are getting knocked out early

feels bad but it’s the way it has to be

[thorny nimbus]

Here's my sons, now out of the contest

I was glad to make it this far though! Bisharp/Jirachi plus the alt were great ways for me to understand getting a good balance between both fused Pokémon while not obscuring the fusion. Excited for the next one! :D

[coral palm]

I guess I can post mine too

didn't pass the first round

[cloud pulsar]

i got in the same poll as the other mawile

good contest tho

[teal nexus]

Everyone did so much better than the basic blandness mine looks like in comparison

[wooden root]

Awww, what a happy little guy! 🥹

[slow gyro]

Happo

[teal nexus]

Thanks guys, I appreciate the positive feedback

I just don’t have the skill and talent to make more detailed sprites

[slow gyro]

Don’t worry, no one was born knowing everything

Keep practicing and in no time you’ll become as good as you want to

And if you ever need help or advise, don’t hesitate pinging me, I love helping others lol

[thin dove]

i concur with all of the above statements, and will now ping hero.drawing every time i scratch sprite

[grand tusk]

If you don't need it, ping hero anyway, it would be funny

[fading fiber]

hero living up to his name!

[fast bough]

Well my contest ends here

[fringe mica]

gg

yknow come to think of it that gyarados could use a constellation design if ur going full space on it

like the doduo one

was it a doduo

idk

but that one

[timid urchin]

Why were Husks sprite removed from the polls? They were 2nd place in the previous ones

[slow gyro]

My bestie got banned from the server (1 month) and I believe he’s not coming back before that ban ends

Idk if he talked with the mods or something about it

[timid urchin]

Yeah I know but we had sprites from banned spriters in contests as well.

I just talked to husk and he didn't ask for them to be removed

[slow gyro]

Lol then no idea

[fast bough]

I made that gyarados on a rush. I had to go on vacation xd

[fringe mica]

what that

the arceus arceus?

[timid urchin]

no Jirachi/Lanturn and Hyrdeigon/Jirachi

[open hatch]

Didn't you need 1st in last round to advance, though?

[fringe mica]

if ur 2nd u advance in the quarters

[fringe mica]

Oh

rule 8 moment

[molten vector]

The hyreigon/jirachi was mine unless there was another I missed

[open hatch]

No you don't?? Check other polls, you see only the 1st winners of quarters + the previous byes made it to semis

[timid urchin]

I'm not argueing about his ban just about his sprites being removed from the contest

[fringe mica]

maybe what i meant was wrong

i know 1st in the first poll advances to semis

2nd in the first poll advanced to the quarters

[molten vector]

Nevermind it's late and my brain reversed the fusion when I read it, I did the jirachi/hydreigon

[fringe mica]

oh i see

[open hatch]

Hydreigon/jirachi was in the quarters, though

[fringe mica]

the winers of the quarters advance to semis

i see

[summer nebula]

I thought it was 1st and 2nd like family fuse, but yeah, only 1st proceeded this time

[timid urchin]

Yeah no after asking around it's just a change in how the contests work

So no shady business just different contest rules

[tepid reef]

It's just like League of Legends

[misty acorn]

Man I really hoped the Seaking would win

Tons of great entries tho

[hollow sky]

well it's prob the best option, can't blame the spriters to do the best they can to make their entries as cool and complex as they can.
I really don't see how this is a problem but if you think it's a problem then yeah i agree with limiting.

but what do i know i'm new here idk the history of contests lol

No, I disagree with that. It's always nice to have a little reward to the winner so it gives more motivation to people.

[livid tulip]

Better I won't give my opinion about it.

[hollow sky]

a small and basically useless reward doesn't hurt

[livid tulip]

Yes but that's not the point

The point is how it's affecting the reward in the quality of the contest

[hollow sky]

ah you mean it shouldn't NEED a reward for people to come and participate

well that's solved by limiting the contest more as rezza said he would probably do i guess

[livid tulip]

But I cannot say more because I was warned enough times already

[hollow sky]

ah

guess i shouldnt either then lol

[livid tulip]

Yep

[fringe mica]

o hye guys

[odd garnet]

Am I finally going to the finals for the first time?... In a normal contest? <_<

[silver solar]

Oh that was a much easier time voting

So much faster to process which letter i want when there’s only 4 options

[dull mortar]

yeee much less chaos

[quartz locust]

Little Cup contests every time. 😉

Little Cup contests are the best, it's a fact. 😄

[woven kettle]

So

This is contest general

[dull mortar]

next ontest is big cup

[woven kettle]

[quartz locust]

[dull mortar]

🍵

[plucky arch]

the reward for contests in the role

but honestly we dont even need that id say

[silver merlin]

you werent joking? 🚎

[grand tusk]

dang, thats a cutthroat reply to someone's idea

[dawn prairie]

Get trolley bus reacted

[civic mauve]

Trolley Bus? Is the next contest going to be related to the famous philosophical thought experiment somehow?

[fleet crown]

Next contest, all entries must include trolley problem themed sfx.

[civic mauve]

SFX are allowed, but if you use them a Contest manager comes to your house and punches you in the face. If you don't use them they punch someone else. What do you do?

[cloud solstice]

and if you don't participate?

[dawn prairie]

They run over 5 jirachi fans

[slow gyro]

Im waiting for medium cup lol

[dull mortar]

the middest cup

[slow gyro]

Ye

Most mid evos don’t have that many custom sprites lol

[steel vortex]

That's very true, and could be fun! Mid evos don't get much attention (I also tend to forget them oops)

[slow gyro]

Also it’ll be Luxio’s (the spriter) time to shine lol

[steel vortex]

Oh xD

[dull mortar]

I guess I'm not surprised

Luxios cup

[fast delta]

A mid-evo contest could be a lot of fun, but I feel like it'd require some strict rules to keep the entries from getting too intense.

[summer nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-no-one-cares-gif-18925814

[slow gyro]

Im not catching up buddy

What you mean intense?

[tepid reef]

I agree, mid evos could use some love tho

[slow gyro]

Just make it unlimited entries and 100 dollars price for first place

And give a 15 dollars price to the one that makes the most fusions (me)

[fringe mica]

what if the next contest is like a legendary pokemon contest

[tepid reef]

Random controversial opinion in #event-general: I prefer Charmeleon over Charizard actually, it has more character and I think the red makes it cooler

[fringe mica]

didnt they originally make charizard red

idk some problems ig

[tepid reef]

I mean, no wonder, I don't think the red would've really fit Charizard

[fringe mica]

behold the fill tool

myth bust it

[tepid reef]

Just trying to imagine it, it does look off

[sweet nexus]

Does anyone have a suggestion for a program to use to make sprites? I've never made any but I'm trying to fill out a team of custom machamp sprites

[cloud solstice]

check out #spriting-guidelines

[sweet nexus]

Thank you

Why does that channel disappear when I leave it?

[civic mauve]

I mean, isn’t that true of every contest at this point? Or is there something specific to middle evos that I’m missing?

[slow gyro]

Lol same

[civic mauve]

Yeah I’ve noticed that. You can still get there through the Server Guide but it’s kind of a pain

[slow gyro]

Not gonna lie, I just want this contest to be over just so I can put my entry as my pfp

[civic mauve]

I was going to ask which one but they’re both still in the contest right?

[slow gyro]

||Not sure if I’m even allowed to answer that lol ||

[civic mauve]

I think if one of them was out you could say that it’s the one that’s still in the contest, but you probably can’t answer since that isn’t the case

I could be wrong tho. I’m never quite sure where the line is when it comes to rule 7

[fallen hearth]

i keep missing the votes xD lmao. where are we? like how meny are left, i dont even know how to veiw the contest poll xD

[late sequoia]

#contest-polls is the place for the polls and results. They have how long left till they close on them. Once they close you can see the results

Currently there is 4hrs left for the semis, finals afterwards!

[fallen hearth]

after voting does the reaction revert back to one but still counts your vote? lol

[late sequoia]

Yeah that is what makes it annonymous (though it gets overloaded usually at the beginning). You get a DM from the bot saying your vote has been counted, though most people silence it.

[silver solar]

I forgot it dmed lol

Quiet bot

[elfin siren]

Using the Server's 'Channels & Roles' tab underneath server guide can help with that.
There should be a tab called 'Channels' where you have access to all channels able at your role level, you can enable them to be in the categories with the check box :)

[quartz locust]

I think I like all of the Kanto middle evolutions more than the final ones. Wartortle especially. 🙂

Middle forms for starters used to be really nice designs, until they opted for the "awkward teenager" vibe that a lot of them go for now. 😢

[plush vale]

grovyle best middle form

[plush vale]

apparenty wartortle and blastoise were from separate lines originally

[ashen sapphire]

yes

[plush vale]

don't need to leave ping on just to say yes

[quartz locust]

I know, its beta evolution was way cooler than Blastoise. 😢

[quartz locust]

Agreed. 😄

[quartz locust]

This with cannons would be an incredible both Wartortle / Blastoise and Blastoise regional/Paradox form. 🙂

[plush vale]

feels like for the start regionals they aimed for inversions their personalities/what they represented

[civic mauve]

It'd be really cool for a Legends Arceus style game set in the past

[subtle moss]

Water/Flying alt form

[grand tusk]

I think most people think we’re getting a unova legends next

[subtle moss]

that's the safe assumption

I think Johto has a chance too.

[grand tusk]

There might be leaks related to it, not sure

[subtle moss]

Sinnoh and Johto are the regions with the most focus on 'stories from the past' IMO

And, I mean, it has to be set during the time the tower burned down, right?

[grand tusk]

Unova has the whole war and original dragon

[subtle moss]

Hm, I didn;t ennunciate my point right

[quartz locust]

Johto's not been playable for a longer time than Unova, but we're getting sidetracked. 😛

[subtle moss]

With Unova, it's about People and Pokémon.

With Johto, it's about the region

[grand tusk]

That’s cause even devs know gen 2 sucks

[grand tusk]

I didn’t even notice we’re in contest general until you said this

Opened my phone and just started typing

[subtle moss]

Me neither

[quartz locust]

So how about a Hisui-themed contest? 🙂

Boom, saved it. 😛

[grand tusk]

Unova themed

Oooh what if we had a reshiram and zekrom contest

But it’s all fan interpretations for the original dragon

An original dragon contest

[subtle moss]

I would say 'limit it to a single region' but I don't remember how many Unova Pokémon there are

[grand tusk]

A specific fusion contest would be interesting

[subtle moss]

in IF

[grand tusk]

It’s just a roundabout way to finally have the klinklangkontest

[fast delta]

Oh, I just mean intense in terms of presence. Scale, effects, detail, etc. There needs to be a sense of escalation to the final evolution, so I'd just worry a contest built around them might result in sprites that throw off that progression. It's true that'd apply to any contest entry using a middle form, but people don't usually pick them in practice.

[slow gyro]

I was thinking on the same rules than the LC lol

[fast delta]

Yeah, I think just limiting size does a lot!

[thin dove]

wartortle's features make so much sense now

[slow gyro]

My Tentacruel is out
I was really proud of this one

[misty acorn]

Clefable/Tentacruel by hero when? 👀

[slow gyro]

Lmao

[fallen hearth]

Stay proud. This was an amazing sprite and made it quite far. 😉

[misty acorn]

no offense to pengu of course but.... yeah no full offense

[tepid reef]

Damn, I kinda want to comment, but at the same time rule 7 so

Let's say I'm glad

Mostly glad 👀

[wooden root]

Oh hey, I'm out lol

I'm still stunned my sprite made it this far, as it was kinda rushed and I've already come up with several ideas on how to improve it and add more Jirachi-ness to it since the contest started

But thank you to everyone who voted for this big fella! This was my first attempt at sfx and also fusing two Pokemon I've never even considered trying to fuse before, and I've learned a TON from this contest!

[tepid reef]

Oh yeah, I liked this one a lot

It was really creative and execution is clean

[bleak flint]

i loved this one

[slow gyro]

@misty acorn you’re just requesting it cause you know I accept all my requests, right?
Cause if that’s the case, I’ll probably stop accepting every request

[misty acorn]

I know nothing about your request accepting habits, I just know that I just talked to pengu and he knows that his sprite is kinda shit, so now I try to get you to make a funky space squid thingy but in pink

[vale jolt]

Hero i see a dusclops and torterra sprite and im wonderin if youre responsible for them

[thin dove]

oh no, here we go

[bleak flint]

the voting anonimously thing seems to be working for me on my end

[crimson dawn]

lol A1 is missing

[ashen sapphire]

Alrighty, I'm finally out of the running, but: I'm very pleased this made it as far as it did given I didn't use any particle effects.

[limber venture]

You sure?

[stuck hare]

I thought it was best of your group

[misty acorn]

super funky design

[limber venture]

That's an issue with your discord, not the poll

[ashen sapphire]

Aww, thanks! I would have liked for it to go ahead, but I'm biased. Still, I had fun giving it the Hisuian Zoroark mask and using its aesthetic for the tags, wanted to give it mischief kitsune vibes.

[hollow sky]

that's a difficult vote

[fading fiber]

I'm surprised I made it that far! First time making a sprite and I only had 6hrs to make him 🙀 I learned a lot and am def gonna start making ones for the game!

[fading fiber]

I loved urs so much. That and the purple tentacle one, sad they r out

[crimson dawn]

When can we expect all of these guys to be in the sprite pack? (sorry, super new)

[wooden root]

This was your first sprite AND you made it in SIX HOURS????? SAVE SOME TALENT FOR THE REST OF US 🤯 🤯 🤯

[misty acorn]

tru

[fading fiber]

I did cheet a bit. Grabbed a 3d model, posed it, used a pixelation addon and re-coloured it. Hard part were the swirls

[misty acorn]

thats not cheating, that's using your resources well

[hollow sky]

gg, great sprite !

[fading fiber]

U should da seen when I tried to hand draw it first, was so derpy

[hollow sky]

i guess you have some experience with pixel art lol

[shell gale]

that is a clever idea, what addon did you use?

[hollow sky]

btw mine was out first round but it was also my first sprite made in an afternoon, definitely not as good as cozie's one but it's still cool i think lol

[ashen sapphire]

You did really well for doing this, though there are a couple spots that could have benefitted from manually smoothing the lineart after the fact. Still, nice work. I liked that one~

[fading fiber]

Alt tab's Pixel

[shell gale]

thank you

[fading fiber]

U still got to touch it up tho. It just gets the main shapes and shading done

[shell gale]

understood

[wooden root]

I need to check if I still have a decent version of my Tauros that I saved as an .ase so I can go back and modify it much more easily lol

I started my sprite like halfway into the contest, and I couldn't figure out how to add Jirachi's star headpiece while also making it look good, so that's something I wanna go back and play with

[slow gyro]

Where did you got the 3D model??? That could help me a lot

[surreal folio]

Well done to all contest participants. This has been an amazing contest with so many great submissions. I beleive everyone had fun trying out large ammounts of sfx and I hope that all contests in the future will be a banger like this one. Much love.

[glad sail]

Rip, Zerachi is finally knocked out. Shocked it went as far as it did, I’m still not that proud of the effects

Gl to all who remain, and thanks for participating! It’s wild how close semis were

[outer valve]

What is this black magic

I need to know more.

[worthy shuttle]

I’m upset that the Bannette jirachi didn’t get voted man

[stuck hare]

Yeah, the mask was really cool! I also think your sprite just looked really clean, which I personally like a lot :]

[dull mortar]

it was very cute I really liked it!

[fading fiber]

If u just look up "pokemon" 3d model, it's normally the first link but they r all available for free with bones

I think it's sketchfab, but this one guy just uploads all of them. Super helpful

[slow gyro]

Lol fr?

Thanks!!!

[fair citrus]

What do u use to view the 3d models?

I tried to use one for my first sprite but it seems super stressful lol

[fading fiber]

https://sketchfab.com/nguyenlouis32
this guy has a bunch u can download for free. And i use blender to pose them, the files sometimes dont import tho so u gotta do some troubleshooting

its nice for getting proportions right (im bad at that when it comes to drawing)

[fair citrus]

Ah blender

There’s gotta be a decent tutorial bc I’m so confused looking at the ui

[fast delta]

It requires a lot of hotkey use.

There's a box that switches between modes too, like Object, Edit, Pose, etc. Hotkeys will do different things depending on which mode you're in.

[fair citrus]

Ohh interesting

Do you perhaps use 3d models to make ur sprites?

[fast delta]

Not at all, haha.

[fair citrus]

Then what is the magic

What is the secret sauce /j

[fast delta]

lol. I just rely on my drawing experience for whatever medium I'm using.

[fair citrus]

I wish I had that kind of sauce

Atm I’m veryyy intermediate I’d guess

[fast delta]

Just takes time! I believe anyone can learn good draftsmanship.

[fair citrus]

Oh I’m learning it alright

[uncut flint]

Aww the banette one I was rooting for got eliminated

[granite mica]

what is A3 a fusion of?

[civic mauve]

Kabutops I think?

[fading fiber]

dunno if this is rule 7, but the kabutops gives me gen 1 sprite vibes

also what channel r the rules in, im new?

[rough frost]

the channel called "rules"

[fading fiber]

oh its under server guide. Im used to there being a chanel

[rough frost]

all good

[fading fiber]

hehe theres one for server politics. I love the idea of pokemon sprite drama!

[thin dove]

oh god

jesus god no that's a monkey's paw

[fringe mica]

not even close

[odd garnet]

I got 2nd place in the semi-finals

[fringe mica]

what was urs

[odd garnet]

I really had to go against the entry that won against me in the 1st round for the Semis huh? Lol

[fringe mica]

can we talk on the other server

[fringe mica]

damn

u lost to hero twice

[odd garnet]

Yup
Guess that makes me the villain huh? LOL

Kidding

[fringe mica]

villain.drawing

[odd garnet]

Ah well
Consolation prize though
Maybe my sprite will win the main vote due to all this exposure

[fringe mica]

whwts the consolation prize

[odd garnet]

Winning the Main Vote

Lol

[fringe mica]

hmm

[odd garnet]

It's a Jirachi/Spiritomb fusion

[slow gyro]

Lmao

Not gonna lie, I love that fusion

Super cool

[odd garnet]

Thanks xD

[slow gyro]

Lmao ||I hope so, but idk if talking about this is R7||

[odd garnet]

Lol maybe

[thin dove]

nah, you're the rival

[odd garnet]

Being the Rival sucks... Unless your in Digimon

Cause iirc the Rival always gets the main girl hahaha

[thin dove]

you're arguably still one of the strongest people in the setting

bested only by 1 person

[odd garnet]

Nah
In Pokemon
Being the Rival means you lose, not only to the hero, but to the villains as well

Isn't that right? BARRY?

[thin dove]

rivals in pokemon run the gamut

there's at least 2 that have already beaten the League by the time you get there

then there's some that become so discouraged by you constantly trouncing them that they just give up lmao

[slow gyro]

Tbf I need another rival, now that Husk left the server

Lmao should I do a contest to find another rival?

[timid shore]

@limber holly the rayquaza/jirachi is yours, right? i was rooting for it and it's my fav out of the entries!

[cloud solstice]

It was one of my fav, sad to see it didn't make it

[fringe mica]

how did the rayquaza jirachi not w in

legit thought its gonna win

its server pfp worthy

[thin dove]

it would fit the server icon really nicely i do agree

[signal reef]

I really thought it would be a finalist that's a shame

But my fav is still there so I have hope

[timid shore]

i do think the sprite having the least sfx in the batch does impact the votes unfortunately. i tend to vote dynamic posing over sfx tho, and i know not everyone shares that

[fringe mica]

i dont like how im the only white fusion with sfx

[odd garnet]

White Fusion?

[fringe mica]

jirachi head

[thick atlas]

whats the contest gym leader role?

[livid tulip]

Third position

[thick atlas]

wow now i remember 😅 thanks

[stray condor]

That husk what

Did I miss something

[normal oyster]

He got banned or something

[fringe mica]

i wish we could talk about that but thatd be rule 8

[quartz locust]

Pillowshaded. 😛

[odd garnet]

OH COME ON IT'S PILLOWSHADED???

Lol

Guess it's insta alt now

[quartz locust]

Yes. 😂

[quartz locust]

That's not how things work, don't worry. 😛

You ought to fix it, though. 😉

[odd garnet]

Aww man
I was making it look like the Jirachi is made of Space too

[orchid mortar]

Lost at semifinals but im glad i even made it there

[severe trout]

i got out first round 😔

tried to do something unique with electric sfx rather than space, but ah well

though the one that beat me is currently in the finals, so i guess i cant be too disappointed

[severe trout]

i think i had like 10 pixels of black outline where there shouldnt have been black outline which was a big L

[bleak flint]

oof. hey dont worry about it mine only got 2 votes and one of those votes was me

i was also out first round

[limber holly]

Wow, thanks! 😄 Yeah ray/jirachi was mine, along with jirachi/sunflora which got knocked out round 1 hehe. Even though I have a little soft spot for sunflora I'm glad the one that wasnt relying as much on sfx was the one that made it as far as it did out of the two

[livid tulip]

The idea of changing the tags for M-Ray whiskers is quite good, I voted for that fusion in your semifinals group

[severe trout]

i really liked that left one as well, i voted for it

[livid tulip]

Also the idea of making the hat like Rayquaza tails. It's really neat combo as fusion

[cloud solstice]

I really liked both, they look so serene/peaceful

[primal maple]

I especially loved the Rayquaza/Jirachi sprite. I really hoped it would win

[cloud pulsar]

seaslux again with some amazing sprites
i really like this ones

[civic mauve]

I really loved both of them as well! The Rayquaza has such a fun design and a really dynamic pose while the Sunflora is very sweet (and I think the sfx are quite well done, they really add to it imo)

[limber holly]

Thank you sm everyone I'm really happy with what I managed to achieve with these sprites

[limber holly]

For what it's worth, this contest did help me notice some areas where I could improve too! Theres a bunch of entries that have made really good use of dynamic angles and perspective, and I think that's something I could work on. When I come up with a fusion I usually just sprite over the first sketch where I've figured out the design, which tends to mean the pose and angles end up relatively straightforward. I tried to break out of that a bit with rayquaza but I think there's room for improvement there as well.

[crisp cargo]

I was one of the least voted on for both sprites lol

[thin dove]

what do you mean?

[fringe mica]

Y husk ban

[fringe mica]

you should have won but u lost

ray jirachi is server pfp worthy

[twin otter]

not to be that guy but is LC still happening or is it dead?

[fringe mica]

Crap

[plucky arch]

the bot used to run LC is kinda dead rn

so we cant get the results, so its at a halt rn

and due the the regular bot not being fully anonymous, with money at stake, we would heavily prefer the one that stays anonymous

[wooden root]

I’m genuinely curious, what exactly is the situation with the LC contest?? I wasn’t in this server when it was a thing, but I keep hearing about it

All I know is that it was a contest and something happened with the bot for it

[late sequoia]

It was a special contest that occured during the huge influx of new members to the server. These contests never use to be big, so the contest manager allowed infinite amount of entries per person. In the end we ended up with over 2k entries, we had a couple spriters put in over a hundred by themselves. The first set of polls was self elimination down to two entries each that used the bot we used for the latest contest as having those results be fully anonymous wasn't as big of a deal. Then the two entries per contestant were slotted into 1 v 1 brackets with other entries. This round of voting used a different bot that apparently couldn't handle the quantities of votes we were sending it. It's been unresponsive since then and while the contest managers reached out to the bots creator, they hadn't heard anything back. So it basically ground to a halt until the bot is fixed.

[wooden root]

Oh yikes

[sly gorge]

2k entries sounds terrifying

[fringe mica]

yikers

[silver solar]

I didn’t hit 100 entries but i did hit a lot lol

But, i think i also burned myself out

[civic mauve]

How long did people have to create entries for it? I don’t think I’ve even made 100 sprites total yet ^^;

[rough frost]

IIRC a month

[silver solar]

Basically a month yeah

I believe the end date got a tiny extension at the end

[late sequoia]

Yeah. I did a solid 20 sprites for it.

[silver solar]

I think i was around 80

[slow gyro]

I won the most sprites made for LC price

[silver solar]

It was close

Not with me, but with the person who didn’t realize the sprites had to be put in the drive until near the end

[slow gyro]

Yea, someone uploaded 116 sprites at once to the folder and got really close to me, so I had to make even more lol

[silver solar]

I do wish i made a few more, only because there was room in my polls

[twin otter]

In the beginning of the contest I was all in on making the most sprites, around my 20 sprite mark I hadnt found anyone with more than 2 or 3 more sprites then me... then I saw it, a file named "hero.drawing" it was so innocent but when I opened it up I experienced horror beyond my imagination. from that moment on I knew my goal was unreachable

[slow gyro]

Lmao

[silver solar]

My goal was to make a bunch of sprites that sparked inspiration after I checked what was valid for sneasel, shinx, and vulpix.

[slow gyro]

I have to say that, of all the sprites I’ve done so far, the Piplup/NidoranM I made for LC is by far my worse sprite yet lol

[silver solar]

I didn’t get all the ones i planned to done. But i got most of em. I also did a few baby x baby fusions just because of the choice award

And i did one random fusion because i felt like it

I think that one actually is one of my 2

[timid shore]

i contributed an even dozen, and then mergemay and color by fusion happened in the months after it. lc is the start of me becoming way more active spriting-wise lol

[silver solar]

I was gonna do mergemay but i think i just burned myself out too much

[slow gyro]

LC was so fun we should do another one

[dull mortar]

mergemay was so much (fun and also tire)

[tepid reef]

True

[timid shore]

no yeah i am feeling burnt out plus my attentions are elsewhere nowadays

[tepid reef]

Daily sprites were something

[timid shore]

i think im a little demotivated ngl

[tepid reef]

Most of my sprites actually come from Mergemay so

It was good motivation

[silver solar]

Most of mine are from lc

I used the possibility of getting money as a motivator even tho i don’t really care if i win or not

[slow gyro]

1/5 of all my sprites were LC lol

And I started spriting December last year

Kuchau

[silver solar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/737765817474744350/1100998381112938556/Collage.png

Add maybe 2 more sprites here and everything outside the box is from lc

[blissful kindle]

SPHEAL

[cloud solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/tess-spheal-gif-22641311

spheal isn't in the game

[silver solar]

Yeah, those are joke alts. Seel/voltorb line is fully joke alted for what you should get if you just evolve

The original was already there, i just decided to continue the joke

[dull mortar]

same I think, I've def slowed down quite a bit at least

I only get like. prompted things done now with the royale and contests

[south escarp]

Is that the lesbian flag in your pfp?

[fading fiber]

4min!!

[civic mauve]

Wow it was close

[rough frost]

[civic mauve]

It’s the asexual flag iirc

But yeah, looks like it was decided by 3 votes

Also it seems like the top 3 were all Jirachi bodies so that’s fun

[fleet crown]

Their's is the asexual flag. Mine is the lesbian flag.

[fleet crown]

I must admit I'm a little confused about the popularity of A2, no offense to the spriter.

[thin dove]

A2 is creative as fuck

rotom fusions go hard

[cloud solstice]

I'd say bc it's well done and very different from the others

[dawn prairie]

Inventive idea yeah
Also i like how the papers looked

[cloud solstice]

Is there a final vote or is this it?

[summer nebula]

it's joever

[thick jolt]

shiiit congrats volcarona!!

volc and kabutops we’re definitely my to win fusions

[limber venture]

Yeah, it's done

[summer nebula]

Merum is typing
dis gon' be good

[limber venture]

Just writing some stuff up

[dawn prairie]

Now no one can stop us from having the exact same argument again

[limber venture]

I can't believe the new MK trailer didn't drop before the contest finished

Fuck you ed boon

[rough frost]

Neato I can share my favorites

[thick jolt]

i loved the bottom right one also^

but that kabutops was just expertly done

absolutely awesome fusion

[woven kettle]

hi guys

[thin dove]

i loved Legs

i hope Legs gets the Silly award

[cloud solstice]

Congrats on winning 2nd place !

[rough frost]

it surprises me, I hope it isn't too contentious a placement

[south escarp]

Curse you, DINKLEBERG!!

[slow gyro]

Lmao my overuse of sfx got third place

Second third place

Maybe one day I’ll win a contest lol

[grizzled yew]

i voted for legs i genuinely liked it lol

[slow gyro]

Congrats to the first and second place! It was a really fun contest

And congrats to all participants on the final round too

[wooden root]

Congrats to everyone who entered the contest! Everyone's entries were phenomenal!

[livid tulip]

Congratulations to the winner. My second favourite sprite on finals, only behind Jirachi/Kabutops. I feel the design itself could still work 100% even with the correct sizing and without the use of SFX, and that's the oversizing and the SFX the things that made me not vote with that one, but still I think that was a really solid fusion design and this is what I want to see in a fusion design contest. So that's it, congrats

[slow gyro]

||Next contest when? ||

[rough frost]

agreed, bit too big (said by a person with a sprite that takes the entire canvas )

[summer nebula]

i think rezza's gonna need a lot of alcohol to be ready for the next one

[civic mauve]

The Rotom and Kabutops were both high on my list of favorites, but the winner was quite cute w/ a fun design so I can’t complain ^^

The other two were a bit heavy on sfx for my taste, though I quite liked the Honedge’s base design. I was mostly rooting against @slow gyro at this point (sorry!)

And it’s not that I disliked the Giritina, I think I would’ve been fine w/ it if the sfx was just smaller

[slow gyro]

I made an alt without the space sfx, but the black hole and the spikes were part of the main design lol

And yea no worries I understand that that sprite specifically it’s on a weird place about the sfx lol

I like integrating them into the sprite

Like, design wise

Like Typhlosion’s flames

[versed ridge]

I only have like

[civic mauve]

I actually would’ve loved a version where the sfx was just 50% smaller. I thought it was really fun conceptually but it just took up too much of the sprite for me

[versed ridge]

1 sprite that uses some form of sfx

🥹

Im not creative so most of my sprites dont include any sfx

[summer nebula]

my brain is too small to do complex SFX
(so i just go for overly-detailed stuff instead)

[slow gyro]

That doesn’t mean your not creative, it’s just your style lol

[versed ridge]

Same

[versed ridge]

But the thing is I WANT to add sfx

I just dont know what or how

[wooden root]

I've never tried sfx before, so I used this contest as an excuse to try it out lol

[slow gyro]

Then you should practice them! I’ll be glad to help you if you ever need some help :))

[versed ridge]

Pretty much all but 1 or 2 of my fusions dont include any actual sfx

[summer nebula]

neither of my entries had SFX - had an original 2nd entry that had it, but didn't enter it because I wasn't happy with it (and also because it barely resembled jirachi)

[slow gyro]

My first sprites were mostly fire mons, so I started practicing

And I ended up mastering most of sfx

[versed ridge]

Its not actually making them thats the main issue
I just dont know what effects to add in general

[slow gyro]

But I still have issues with water lol

[versed ridge]

I only have a sprite with fire fx

[wooden root]

I also wanted to get my idea for a Taurus Tauros out there so that someone more talented than me could make a better version LOL

[versed ridge]

I need help with ideas !

[slow gyro]

Tbh I just think on what kind of sfx I want to use and then I search for a fusion that could use them

[rough frost]

nobody's more confused than me

[versed ridge]

I guess its a problem with my methodology then

(Since all my sprites are references to something and I refuse to do anything else)

[slow gyro]

Lol

[late sequoia]

I think you did a great job on that sprite and don't think it could be improved much! Don't sell yourself short

[versed ridge]

If the reference doesnt include sfx then idk what i would add

[dawn prairie]

sfx shaped like the reference

[versed ridge]

Unless it’s a pretty obvious addition like with Golia

[versed ridge]

I would post the emote it references but i dont have nitro

[wooden root]

Wth that's so nice, thank you 😭 😭 😭

I do have some ideas to improve it, but I think I'm gonna hold off on updating it for a bit, since this contest has me feeling a little Jirachi-d out LOL

[livid tulip]

Oh hey that's me

Lmao

[stiff valley]

Common Merum W

[summer nebula]

hey look there I am

[versed ridge]

Wdym Vigoroth/Slaking

[green plume]

What’s the point of the poll if that’s not how the winner are decided?

[limber venture]

Reading comprehension, people

Very important

[green plume]

Oops

Mb

: )

[stiff valley]

Highly recommend reading

[green plume]

I saw now

[versed ridge]

Vigoroth slaking

[thin dove]

the one time i make a little tiny star and it takes me out of the running for a different podium orz

[stiff valley]

tfw the rotom didn't win

[thin dove]

well at least i was able to make something this time

[rough frost]

gotta rep the machine

[blissful kindle]

Entei/Jirachi is my absolute favorite, so I'm disapointed by the results but I knew it since it got out

[fleet crown]

What even is it? A lottery machine?

[grim patrol]

Congrats to the winners! I really do love that Volcarona/Jirachi.

[civic mauve]

A fortune teller I think?

[wooden root]

Okay, so who made the Jirachi/Staryu?? I am desperate to know, because I love that little guy so much

[languid pine]

Something like that, it's like a fortune machine

[late sequoia]

One of those fortune teller machines you see at fairs/amusement parks

[sly hatch]

one of those- yeah

I made this lil guy

[languid pine]

I'm happy that Jirachi/Giratina won but I'm amazed that people loved the big red box

[ashen sapphire]

I was really rooting for Kabutops for first, but there were a ton of really cool sprites in this~

[vestal lagoon]

I'm really sad my personal favorites didn't win but there were so many good ones

[vestal lagoon]

Jirachi leads to so many cool things

[limber venture]

Shoutout to hero placing third again so I don't have to update his roles

[plush vale]

I liked the sword too, lotta great ones this time

[civic mauve]

Yeah, I figured it wouldn't win w/o sfx, but I just couldn't figure out any to add that didn't look superfluous

[slow gyro]

Lmao

Next contest I’ll win

[stiff valley]

Common Red Haering W

your ideas never miss

[limber venture]

Yeah, if Jirachi/Kabutops wasn't a choice, that rotom was. I loved the concept

[plush vale]

vigroroth/slaking alt when 😛

[versed ridge]

I wish i was as creative as you lot

🥹

[rough frost]

tomorrow (read: 3 months)

[versed ridge]

Or that i could just let go of my self-imposed restriction

But i cant

[blissful kindle]

In my heart you didn't need sfx to win

[vestal lagoon]

Yeah I mean the sparkles were cool

[languid pine]

The Jirachi/Honedge one looked cool, would have been interesting to see how that would have evolved

[vestal lagoon]

But the jirachi empoleon was my favorite

[limber venture]

Getting that rotom/jirachi to actually be readable is nothing short of a miracle, so great job on that one

[vestal lagoon]

I might be biased by empoleon being my favorite pokemon though

[civic mauve]

New Icon!

[winged plaza]

Congrats to everyone who contributed to the contest!! You all did amazing!!

[limber venture]

I hope to god I'm not hosting the next contest

[vestal lagoon]

Lol

[wooden root]

Go take a VERY long break, Rezza! You definitely earned it!

[thin dove]

if you're seriously the only person doing contests, i can try helping out?

[fleet crown]

I think I saw this thing in a movie like, 25 years ago. Just the faintest tinge of recognition.

[rough frost]

Tom Hank's Big, probably

[vestal lagoon]

Must've been a pretty big movie

[limber venture]

I'm not

[stiff valley]

I'm already hosting LC
wdym LC is dead

[limber venture]

Mael gets infinite free passes as long as the bot isn't working

[stiff valley]

[fleet crown]

🤔 I think you might actually be correct. That movie name also sparks tiny recognition.

[stiff valley]

tbf i should get infinite free passes forever since no one wanted to do LC

[late sequoia]

About that bot (sorry I found myself investigating it) is there a reason we are using the beta version of it vs the normal EasyPoll bot?

[limber venture]

I wish so hard there wasn't any money involved so we could just write it off

[stiff valley]

omw to ask kiwi again to just nuke the "winner" prize

[limber venture]

I think it's more a case now that mael can't even close the current polls? We could switch off the beta in the future but the current polls are just there forever

We were using it before because it has better anonymity btw

[stiff valley]

yeah i can't close the polls LOL

[late sequoia]

Gotcha

[stiff valley]

and dev isn't answering

[limber venture]

It allows the dropdown menus, which the regular non-beta bot doesn't, and those are properly anonymous.

[rough frost]

the glass dome is to mimic Jirachi's protective sphere, and the electricity is based on a very particular fortune teller machine at Marvin's Marvelous Mechanical Museum

[stiff valley]

That was 12 days ago

[supple magnet]

I got barely any votes this contest but now that I am more skilled at spriting, I am very excited for the next contest

[strange obsidian]

are these held every month?

[hollow sky]

gg all !

[stiff valley]

they're held every random amount of time lol

[woven kettle]

dont forget to replace the newest contest champion icon

[heady sage]

Are all the entries going to make it into the game?

[plush vale]

everything does

[left pike]

Damn, Votom/Jirachi lost by 3 votes

[grand tusk]

Votom is my favorite pokemon

did you know it's backwards for motov

[late relic]

woo sfx

[dawn prairie]

Actually it's vigoroth spelled backwards

[tepid reef]

Pretty much same, although kind of sad how the Kabutops didn't get top 3 even

Simply, it's design is pretty sick and the execution compliments that

[grand tusk]

you're right, i feel dumb now, thanks for correction

[hollow sky]

even i voted for it for how insane the execution was. so complex ngl

[hollow sky]

I'm beginning to understand why people dislike sfx in contests

[civic mauve]

Yeah sfx can be pretty neat but it sucks how it's basically mandatory rn. I hope it doesn't get banned altogether tho. I'm still a fan of my idea of having a separate category for sprites without SFX since that seems like the best of both worlds, but I don't know how hard it'd be to implement ^^;

[blissful kindle]

Should have been the clear winner out of the final 5

[livid tulip]

I doubt it could be implemented for the sole reason some Pokémon have natural SFX (smoke, fire etc in their own design) so you could probably never put them correctly.

Banned or not in the next contest, which is true about this one (and Deoxys) is that people abuses too much of sfx even when they don't exist in any of the two fused designs, and prioritize these sfx over the design and are being trump cards since time ago

[thin dove]

my 2 cents is that an overuse of SFX can make a sprite look nice but not a game sprite

i legitimately cannot see some of these designs acting in a normal pokemon battle

[civic mauve]

I think whoever’s hosting the contest could decide what counts as special effects vs normal effects

I don’t think it would result in a Family Fuse situation since sprites w/ sfx would still be allowed, so folks wouldn’t need to redo or trash their sprites

[rough talon]

while i think all of these drawings that made it to the top 3 and generally in the finals were really cool, i do feel like there's an issue with composition and posing that stems from sfx. kabutops jirachi was fucking awesome because it had a really strong concept and very lovely execution. its posing perfectly conveyed everything it wanted to imo. i don't think any other is bad per se because of this, but just as a casual observer this is something i noticed

[vestal lagoon]

Yeah its definetly a hard topic

[late sequoia]

Yeah I get that. Good SFX looks great on its own, specially compared to others. But when it comes to in game, you don't really see sfx used much in official sprites unless they are part of animation or deeply ingrained in its design like Ghastly, Koffin, or Hippowdon.

and I guess because of those the argument is why not give some to others

[rough talon]

maybe im just blind and have eye problems as well, but i much prefer a lot of more tamer sprites colorwise unless it's necessary to convey the idea that you're putting out

[vestal lagoon]

Definetly why this one was my favorite out of all because the cosmic sfx area blends in well with the design and feels like a natural part of it

Not too big not too bright

Just a small cherry on top of an already nice sprite

[late sequoia]

Yeah Jirachi/Tauros I think is another good example of the SFX amplifying the design without being too extra. The starry mane flows nicely out of the form, where as my luster purge on Latios/Jirachi doesn't fit the Pokemon aesthetic as much.

[tepid reef]

Honestly, I envy your confidence

[plucky arch]

YOOOOOOOOOO CONGRATS @broken trail

[slow gyro]

It’s not exactly confidence, but I want everyone to be their best, so I’ll act confident so everyone is

[rough talon]

weird thing but i cant enjoy most art as i have hypersensitivity to brighter/more saturated colors

[plucky arch]

your fusion was my #2 choice congrats !

[rough talon]

i do gotta say tho, congrats to those who won

pretty slick work

[vestal lagoon]

Yeah still a ton of good sprites this contest

[robust dagger]

I think I did alright

[vestal lagoon]

I definetly had a hard time picking in the early rounds

[plucky arch]

this contest was jam packed with a ton of good fusions

[robust dagger]

it's Jirachi after all

I find it funny how there were Three Dodrios in there alongside my doduo

[fringe mica]

RAHHH

gggssss

my boi made it to the finals

first contest lol

thank god the vending machine didnt win

not sure how thatd fit the server pfp

good sprite just not that readable

atleast we have a fire server pfp

Literally

the very least i made it to top 5 for my first ever contest

[fringe mica]

breh i started with genesect a no sfx pokemon and then i suddenly got good at sfx

[fringe mica]

i would have made ark of the cosmos for that but i made that for palkia

[versed ridge]

Its a fortune teller machine and it was my vote

🥹

[fringe mica]

ow

well those r not a thing here so i was unfamiliar

pretty creative doe

[misty acorn]

Congrats to lè winners!
My favorites were the Seaking and the Kabutops

[thick atlas]

congrats to the winners

[fringe mica]

congrats guys

my favorite is the rayquaza one

surprised it didnt win

[silver merlin]

LOL the difference between the spotlight and podium is really funny

[naive summit]

I'm late but really solid podium, grats to the winners. Also really cool that first place won by only 3 votes. Seeing the votes get close is pretty fun

[urban slate]

beautiful new fusion icon

[fringe mica]

whats the difference

Oh

i didnt see the no sfx spotlight

[cloud solstice]

sfx spotlight when?

[drifting wave]

see: the actual contest results

[livid tulip]

Basically they would look like this

[drifting wave]

More like Wartortle used Water Gun

[versed ridge]

Peak

[livid tulip]

But yeah, that's one of the main reasons of why I criticize the overuse of SFX. These sprites simply don't work for a game, even if they are well done. The second reason is that many people keep their efforts in SFX that doesn't exist in the og designs and make a recolor for the Pokémon design. Some sprites could easily change their "fusion" by changing the colors (like changing some fusions the blue clouds by purple clouds and the yellow/white for orange/blue and call them Deoxys fusions) or basically you don't remember features of the fusion design except their SFX when you stopped looking at them

Not denying these SFX can be very well done, but we must remember that the SFX in games are the moves that the Pokémon is using in battle

[drifting wave]

I really thought the Kabutops/Jirachi looked good enough to be in the game, maybe a gen 2 legendary that runs away. But I also don't think it's an SFX sprite, idk