#event-general
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oh ok
I wanna make my own Aegislash/Roserade
thatd be pretty cool
I want a body fusion to win
sword time
you say that but I'm making a spear
The masked swordsflower?
smol
the block game?
Ima run through the pokedex later and see what neurons fire into action
aright ill do the same
Might end up just doing a teenage mutant ninja squirtle
I'm just gonna make mine float in the air like Aegislash to make it look more menacing LOL
imma pull somthing out of the Books of monster hunter
cause thats the logical route here
intensifies
I have a idea for this generated sprite
its going to be Mutch Bigger
like Titan sized
its going to have wepons under it
its going to be great
showsprite aegislash/galvantula
Hey @teal grove please go to #ask-a-bot or Aegide's calculator (https://aegide.github.io/) to avoid spamming this channel!
🚎
I love pikmin
I was playing that game recently
Nice, I still need to complete the Pikmin 251 game
Only if they make them not reuse the same assets so often, I think the caves get kinda stale after a while
What is that?
Neat, I haven’t played any hacks yet
I was considering Pikmin 1 remade in Pikmin 2
Oh yeah, you mean like the pikmin² hack that still isn't out yet
basically by hand... frame. by. frame 
Poured my heart and soul into this one, lads. Every scene drawn by hand. Hope you enjoy :)
I stand on the shoulders of giants. Here are some incredible videos that this video learns from:
AdamCYounis' Sub-pixel animation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs1Gp61yafQ
MortMort's Animation planning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmNLPtIsMxI
Saul...

screw it. gonna make procedurally generated animation.
No hand drawn animation anymore. Only math
math is for losers. everyone knows randomly guessing is the superior method
That’s a lot of work for something that’s gonna end up static in game

somehow reminds me of a Digimon already haha
I'm going to be honest, I have no freaking clue what to do
aegislash/klinklang
oh i wanna do some literal swordfish if i have the time
Y'know what? Sure, sounds interesting
1 entry down 2 more to go
can i use only mons that're in IF for the aegislash contest 
yeah

funny sword
3 entries Max oy vey
Contest Stuff
heyo person who just checked the pins of this chat, heres some contest stuff
forms to suggest your contest ideas:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdLiAcHLUFHVcP77pvgT6K5patSi93tkoRTJkCQGnk7T9ITZA/viewform
if you want to host your own sponsored contest contact any sprite manager! preferebly @plucky arch or @stiff valley, they'll help you through it all
please dont talk about voting happening in #contest-polls before the said poll has ended (rule 7)
our funny system for polls:
Day 1: Preliminaries: 1st sprite of each bracket goes to Semis, 2nd and 3rd ones go to Quarters, a phase of four brackets.
Day 2: Quarters: 1st, 2nd and 3rd sprite of each bracket go to Semis.
Day 3: Semis: 1st and 2nd go to Finals ((semis should be split into two brackets if required by the amount of entries))
Day 4: Finals: 1st, 2nd and 3rd sprites go to the Podium
oh and lastly look at nubert just below this message
methinks me already has fusions ready for this contest 
yeah i have mega gallade and meg gardevoir + gallade 
I believe sprites that have been made and submitted already are not able to be used for contests
i didnt submit them so 
they cant be more than one week old lol
copy, paste, save as = brand new file
= banned from contests
Man, Aegislash is the one mon where I would have even prefered Klinklang 🥲
xDDD
just git good

skill issue
I know 
I have done an aegislash head b4 but I want to try a body, that could be fun
this is making my life more difficult than it needs to be 
Ig this is a good chance to get Qwil/Aegislash done
should've studied the blade
Conceptually aeg body is much easier ye
time to make a christmas themed sword
candy cane
does aeg/weavile sound good 😭
Speaking of contests, @teal grove can I use your klinklang base please?
kinda glad i got a save with the completed dex, easy way to look at every IF pokemon
There's also a .rar File in #1051343819314053160 with them all
sure
The file in resources makes it easy for me
I HAVE AN IDEA
keep it to yourself
no i want your opinion on it >:)
alright, dm's
its currently in the making :petipixsmirk:
This is a tough one
ive found a fair few that havent been done and are (potentially) unlikely candidates to be chosen
just thinking of what to do with em is tough
just make em yellow and give em a sword
I just gave the sword a fish to eat
I have a random question... contests are open for everyone, right? Not limited to a specific role? :s
open to all yes
That is correct
But your entries gotta be pixel art, in the gen 5 style
So your are limited to a 96x96 canvas
Alright, thank you. Sadly I have an idea for this one, but it happens at the worst possible time slot that could ever happen for me haha.
Sure. Like if it would be a fusion for IF.
>Sadly

But well maybe I'll find some time and if not, I at least will be blown away by all the entries that'll happen. ^-^
I kinda dont want to post my contest sprite to spritework as it ruins the surprise but also I suck at making sprite so if I dont get feedback its gonna have some issues
I know the feeling
has the 'mon for the contest been picked?
Yeah
As shown by the message in #event-announcements
i'm not seeing where it states what the poll winner was, or am i dumb
that's for secret spriter
scroll up in #event-announcements
winner is aegislash
where does it say that???
the most recent message in #event-announcements
that... doesn't state what the poll result was
you on mobile or pc?
close and reopen discord
thank you for being patient with me, i was so confused why there wasn't anything listed anywhere
yeah, that message isn't showing on pc, so weird...
I need an idea for reuniclus aegislash 
wonder if it's because i don't have a role, weird
you just need to restart discord
im kinda stuck and I want to ask for opinions
surprised aegislash/aggron isn't a thing yet
i know what i'm doing now
things that break your heart: aegislash/joltik is steel/electric (the one that looks like a bug), joltik/aegislash is bug/ghost (the one that has to look like a sword)
swap the sproots when you play
actually, aggron i'll do for a different fusion
i'm thinking...
mayan sunbird ceremonial blade (hooh/aegislash)
Joltik and Galvantula really really should have their type swapped
whispers #game-suggestions
This has been brought up a billion times already I think 😅
Reverse of the one I did back in lé day 
Yes, but not with the new system, it'll be like a whole new idea
Taking the opportunity for this contest to make a fusion for an existing aegislash head that I think I can make better 
Same here lol
LESGO
can't wait for the finals for the sv contest 
Yuh
there should be a contest like secret santa but instead everyone who enters is given a completely random sprite to sprite (perhaps with whoevers running it rerolling if the sprite already exists) 🤔
maybe out in july when winter is far away 😂
secret route completion
part of the point of it was to get your request completed so theres no need to remove that
that literally exists lol
they didn't specify pokemon somebodies gonna be spriting a shoe/sephiroth or something 😛
oh hell yea (sorry ive only been here for a few months)
you've been here longer than I have
Ironically enough we literally just had it
Oh did I ?
Fucking finally, 20 days of voting
Good work Gamr
Ty
And that on top of the time before that
Glad it's over
gods work
Because truth be told
This series in particular
Was a nightmare
I'll being absolutely truthful when I say this
Never
THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS OVER A MONTH AGO
well at least looking an comparing all that stuff was fun :S
to manage it probably not... xD
Usually there’s a loser's bracket too but
Mostly because of the illustrations
Like, ah yes
Illustrations in a place where spritework go brrr
WTF do I do with those 😀
well with just with sprites only at least the amount of days the votes took would have been cut by half
I'm still salty ab me losing to a particular someone I wasn't even meant to loose to
But whatever
The outcome wouldve def been different if there was a loser's bracket too, but gamr has suffered enough
The last few rounds had so many entries that only won by one or two votes
We should make someone else suffer too 
Nice A/A @vagrant thorn
I like it
If i had like
A chance for the Klinklang shit
I would've made Klinklang Magikarp
And try making it look genuinely cool
You guys can't discuss entries and entrants like this for ongoing comps
Doesn't matter
It's ok
I think there's a sprite of like, klink/magikarp or something that's a submarine
That one was cool
Oh nice
Ig another pokemon with Magikarp ig
Maybe Rayquayquay
Idk lmao
Maybe Deoxys
If your previous magikarps are an indication, I imagine you could pull them off nicely
I've just been revamping all the older gen poses I like. haven't used all of them yet though
IT WAS THAT LONG AGO?
Yeah
Boi, it was long
Too long
Oh sorry
Deleted message, I will better talk about it before voting ends
AFTER
It is early in the morning, brain not working
@crude cedar It doesn't have anything to do with the theme but... i got the same magikarp plushie as your picture
let me be salty in peace please 
"Meant to" is a very curious choice of expression. 
They lost to Nonya
Nonya business
Well there goes the joke 
it most likely is since blaq is a mod 
ahhh I Sorry
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#memetemplate
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Have I died and woken up somewhere where people are speaking a different language? Or am I just a moron? 😅
Don't answer that. 
dang i was gonna answer it
what will happen if i answer 
You are a very smart individual, friend person
you are british
i just saw british tell me who's british 
Blaquaza
KHEKJRHGUWKJLKIU
Blaquaza is british 😥 ?
is it a new mental illness that i love the british 
as is said in the bibble
judge a person not by who they is but by where they from
Always have been
Show me.
HAH
Scout is now in crippling debt :(
Ahyeh if he stayed British the NHS would have payed for it
At least now he doesn’t have an economic recession due to 12 years of tory rule 
Just an economic recession due to other factors
That is what we in the business call "straight fax"
You seem oddly well-educated on British politics for a Belgian, is our broken political system that infamous? 😭
Trying to straddle the Rule 5 line a little.
It takes one to know one ig 
It was also funny seeing boris saying "brexit will make everything better" and then seeing everything almost immediately go to shit
"We did not vote for this"
- people that voted for brexit
I mean they were massively lied to and some of them did it for... let's just say unethical reasons, so I can understand why they feel hoodwinked. Some super left-wing people voted for it to, but for the exact opposite reasons as the ones the government used to form the basis of their strategy. I was too young to vote by like a year and a bit, and yet my future's getting deeply affected by it. 😢
People vote to make a change in what they think will get them a better future. However, it is unethical of a government party to lie about it to the public, to tell them voting on them will get the people what they want. Surprisingly, a lot of people enjoy following blindly more than checking their sources
It really is 
And also TLDR news makes very enjoyable videos about it 
Trying to do an animation for this
Would anyone here be able to give me feedback on my drawing please
Where is it?
That’s not a drawing, also #is-my-sprite-ready is where you ask for more help
So how do we submit our entries?
Just name it like how we submit sprites?
What if it's an animation though?
They all have to be sprites so yeah
Same thing
I’m aware, I asked for help there and got none
God the shield for aegislash is such a fucking nightmare to draw 
I see, thank you
Yup
I did a little hack though
look how people named their's in the drive
I just drew the circle, and then in another layer, I just add in the details all in one go
Got it o7
Yeah, that’s gonna happen
So even animated ones should be named like this?
Let’s make a deal I’ll put the ask for help in the correct channel and in exchange you give me advise
Yeah
Roserade?
Yeah
Dudes
Ooh thats cool
There’s channels for this
Yes
Thanks
Y’all I need some advice 
What do you need?
Yup
That's what I was basing it off
Do that but with unown for sword and shield
Oh I didn’t notice lol
Dude read it LOL
Most recent spritework post
Oh ok
Sorry if I’m interrupting uh,, I was wondering if I could get a rating on this? It was for the contest and I want to know how good it really is
This doesn’t break the “don’t talk about stuff during voting” rule I hope
Just want feedback,,
Well voting on it is already done
you can post it in #1057806135379382302 for feedback
Brambleghast...
It was never put into the bracket 💀
Tangrowth?
Yes
WOO
Wait it wasn't?
Do the mods choose who gets to be in the bracket?
I guess there are only so many slots
No
If it was uploaded to the drive folder in time it was on the contest polls

??
Here
I don’t mind it being missed at all, but since the contest is almost over I thought it’d be appropriate to just ask how it would be placed in your eyes
If it’s good or not
I feel like it wouldn’t place as high but still curious
If someone says it's good you'll feel bad it missed its chance in the contest and if someone says it's bad you'll just feel bad as well 
Personally i like it
Noooo I’m fine! I told you i don’t mind
well i cant say where it would be placed but its an interesting combo! i think itd look better w a diff accent , the light purple doesnt pop as much as i wish it did. but besides that its a solid design, nice job on the vines
I’ll take note of the colors next time, ty:)
i think an earthy red would go well but it might be too close to the brown u used already
Hm
im kinda spitballing
keep it up tho i look forward to any future concepts/sprites u make
Eeee tysm~
My process for fusions usually is the same for how just about any Pokémon look like
“What does it eat/how”
“What does it represent”
“How do the colors help it live”
“Who would it be friends with”
Bramblgrowth is Medusa and has thorns to keep anyone away, else it stares them in the eyes and applies a curse
my personal work fusions tend to be a mash of the concepts between the pokemon
Could u give an example? :0
thats so many questions, all i do is mash everything together and ask myself "Do I like it"
Probably top 5 for me, at least as a gut feeling
Really like the combo and how it was executed a lot
i could show off some old designs i havent done my own designs in a while
Pls do :0
I feel as if the discussion of fusion creation process is essential ^^
i can hardly remember what these are fusions of but i go about it a different way when working on contest stuff
Ooh
What is the blue and green fluffy frog supposed to be a fusion of? I assume it’s part Froakie?
they honestly look more like new pokemon than fusions- i try to make the combination more obvious w sprite stuff
i think it was whimsicott?
Ooo
the balloon dog looks so good
All of your drawings r so cute!
thanks i think it was mr mime and porygon 2 inspired??
I made fusion years ago when I was still in elementary school
Stopped for a long loooooong time and joined this place just this month to join the contest and see if I still got it
I could probably find one of my old fusions back then as well if you want to see it too
i guess the lava thing is camerupt and nidorino
i should get back into making fusions for myself these were fun
yup! thats just a regional form like the oddish and sandslash
Doing art to please oneself rather than to please the masses is good! Keep doing it!
Hey Prince, what's this cloud supposed to be?
Can't think of anything back at the day besides Swablu xD
Water type maybe?
new challenge, guess prince's fusions
I see a starmie shape
the face is probably an important part
It really looks like a Water Droplet
the face looks more like cosmoem but sure cosmog makes sense
Unsure what the other half is
Regional Cosmog
That's my guess
am i the only one seeing a cryogonal shape?
O, I see it now
i cant remember what it is-
lmaoo
LOL
i just know its like. based on a konpeito and 2 cute pokemon
I love konpeito candies!
it was a friends request and i wanna say it was like. part togetic?
At the local korean mart they have popeye-brand sweet noodles and had konpeito inside- ayo?
Togetic?
genuinely cant remember what the 2nd is a combo of but i know the first one is part crustle
That’s so creative!
man. the problem here is that i came here for advice on aegislash body fusion concepts but now i wanna draw more random fusions
It is hard to know exactly what they are made of but they are all so pretty ^^
i think that was my goal at the time which seems to have worked bc even im confused by what the inspos were
Like don’t get me wrong they’re beautiful
Just need a bit more clarity
The crustle fusion would look a bit more like crustle if the head was sticking out of the dirt in the same place that the base pokemon’s head is
ok sorry to like. steer us away from this but i wanted to know what would be cooler for a rapidash/aegislash fusion- a thin foil-like blade or a drillhorn-like sword
Hm
yeah fair. i think my goal w these old designs was to make new pokemon combining the ideas/elements of the pokemon instead of making proper fusions-
Can you elaborate
are you doing an aegislash-is-the-base fusion or a the-base-is-now-made-of-aegislash fusion
Mine is the latter ^^
i know theres already a few sword in stone fusions but i wanna do one like it w a parasect body
maybe not a stone but a rotting tree stump
I'm making Unown spell out Sword and Shield
oh thats really clever i like that
I plan to try and get a full evo line.. but we'll see if time allows it.. I've got ideas, oh do I have ideas.
i just spent so long making a sprite for the contest and all of them look so good, i post mine in spritework 2 for feedback before i decide if i should submit it or not
OK
I want to make a sprite so bad, cuz ther is so many cool sprites popping up, but I can’t think of much
Omg!! First place! Congrats to you too!! What a nice thing to Wake up to!
And congrats for the third place for the illustrations!
Which sprite?
Ceruledge/arcanine
You posted like- 3
?
The sponsored sv contest lol the vote finally ended
Oh ok
The submission aren't even done for the aegislash contest 😆
OH SHIT
It looks nice
One small issue
You stole his main shtick

Lol yeah 
Hey @chilly void congratulations on winning!
For the last sprite I'll make for this aegislash contest, by hell I'm making it into a Klingklang
Biblically accurate sword :)

GG everyone in the SV contest
A bit disappointed i didnt reach podium, but a worthy sacrifice to see all the other pieces in their proper positions
So, only just began spriting and already won 60 bucks with it? Youve got great potential
I love the sprite style + have been drawing for years
So I could manage to do my sprites out of my own imagination without limiting to edits
There were great edits, ngl, just saying that for those abilities I had more posibilities
That and I read the whole tutorial
My personal favorite was robo santa
... is it okay to talk about it now, right? As the contest ended
yeah
EXCUSE ME WHAT
WHICH ONES
WHICH ENTRIES WERE YOURS
I loved ||Tatsmewgiri||, I was rooting for that one and the tengu. 😄
WHAT
AYO?
Omgggg i was so stressed out by how close it was LMAO
GG
I loved that one
Lemme be completely transparent with how i made it;
LMAOOOOO
I wish…
That looks so funny to me
I wonder if anyone else does fusions like that
mostly proud of the legs' shading and perspective and shit, everything else is a little whatever
dropped out in the first polls LMAO
lmao my worst sprite in this comp made it the farthest
ig just unlucky polls for me
one of my faves died round 1 as it got matched up vs the animated chandelure one
F
Its a little funny how day 1’s drawings were all tinkaton fusions vs something else
Wondering how it wouldve turned out with a loser's bracket as usual
we would've found out in another 2 months lol
alternative outcome, gamr dies and the polls are never finished
This conversation is stressing me out because I don't know what to do about enforcing spoilers. 
oh god sorry I forgor
Spoil tag images and mentions of Gen IX Pokémon, please. Make my life easier.
implying people that come here dont check #sponsored-polls-old
You can still tag names, though. 😉
because discord are incompetent
Because that would be censorship in the most literal sense im gyessing
Tho deletion of messages is also a thing
How doe
Like i understand “oh no we cant be silenced”
But spoiled images can always be clicked on to be seen after
message deletion/banning is more literal censorship than anything yeah
Im referencing the earliest version of censorship
Here, gimme a sec
This is how ww1 letters to family were censored by the higher ups
yeah you can't click those to uncensor them
Basically #pokemon-winds-waves rn
get dunked on gear man
I will gear grind your balls
If you post relief emoji rn
dead emoji
AYO#
WHAT THE FUCK
I always did image Gear Grind to be one of the most violent-looking move animations (hypothetically) but come onnn
you have like an infinite supply of simpsons gifs for every occasion
finished my second entry
oh right you can have multiple entries
I'm too lazy for that
I wish I could work fast
Man im gonna get fucked
I only have my concept for the aegis contest,, and im hardly a good spriter!
I dont have enough time to finish all my stuff
Family gatherings are like
It's new year, there was christmas, my sis and my grandma were born around this time
All those parties and no time to sprite
Sprite:
Shiny decidueye/floragato
Mega mawile/farigiraf
Drawing:
Iron moth/Lunala
Midnight lycanroc/Great tusks
The first 3 madebit to the end
Made it*
About the competition entrys, does it necessarily need to be the same size as the base sprite, or is it ok to send a bigger sprite size entry? Like: You use a magnemite base sprite to your sprite but you make your sprite bigger
As long as it fits on the 96x96 canvas it doesn't matter
It fits
Sooo...
Congrats :)
The ultimate winner
Waaaait so you won 1st place, 2nd place, AND 3rd place?
1 2 3 is still 1 2 3
So that means
75 + 50 + 50 + 25 = ...
Did you just win 200 dollars?
You got 2nd in the moopsten right?
So, i have to dm the contest planner (or the contest manager, idk) to deliver the entry, right?
🤔 wait
no, you post it in the drive link in #event-announcements
No no, I won 3rd in moopsten choice
The mawile!
And the money was redistributed
Das a lot of muns!! You can pay for cooleg
Any amount of USD is impressive to earn when one uses a currency that is less than 1 USD~
1 USD is 55 in my place haha
Haha thanks
now you can pay rent
I think will make some gifts for my guild
On Neopets
If someone knows the game lol
I do know it ^^
(Send username ewe)
I dont play it much anymore~
I rlly wanna know why you decided to join this competition~ gotta learn from the best!
Pls tell me 🥺
I wanted... to get noticed by Moopsten
:0
Thankies! ^^
I had two motivations
1: Gaining EXP
2: money
EXP is a metaphor for basically “learning from this experience” lol
Sure have gained a lot :0 do you feel like you’ve learned from this comp
I just wanna sprite fusions again, haven't done it in years
Saw the opportunity here and was like SURE
I joined because I got to use non-IF mons. And money, I love money
And then I didn't sprite anything and just drew illustrations instead LOL
I draw and love sprites
Granted I am more used to digital art than Pixel art so I had more comfort in illustrating
So I joined this community to do fully customized mons
:D freedom!
should have made it transparent or drawn a background as well....
Im unsure if backgrounds made a difference in the contest
I was told “you dont need to add a background” and then i see all these fusions with really nice backgrounds
🤩
Yeah but looking at everyone with transparent backgrounds and I'm here with my white squared entries LOL
I liked them! :)
I added background to my drawing because I feel are strange without background
At least for myself
Thanks Swad xD
I always add a little miscelanous background
My ||palamewtwo|| originally had a background but then i decided not to
Do we still have to use the spoiler thing? 2 weeks from the release already happened
Just asking, as I see people still use it
whine
I personally think its.. weird
Leaks were all over
Its past Christmas
People who are in a server about playing the (mainline) game (and a hack of it), especially after a big contest involving SV Pokémon…
It’d be really hard to not be spoiled by this point.
Yeah Blaq. You got an appropriate Simpsons gif for this situation? I'm sure you do.
FUCKING BRUH
I believe after the new year we can unspoil (I think)
wasn't neopets tied to scientology
Scientologist?
a typo of lots
Is the contest till 2 February?
februari? damn thats a nice long time 
I mean January 
My brain ded
I don't think neopets has been bought by celebrities?
I mean, no player of the site speaks of it
Scientology is basically pseudo-science but with religious dogma
Antivaxxers, healing crystals, shit like that combined with the structure of a church
Oooooh....
Then maybe
I think neopets has gonne through 3 owners
Being the second Nickelodeon
How many contests have not had their deadline extended?
the majority
YO, so many people are working on submissions, its insane
I havent even showed my submissions to anyone yet
two are basically done while I barely started the third
for some reason, im making a custom sprite, just for the contest lmao, ill let it exist for others too
I don't know why I read 5 days as one month 
so what we have until Jan 4th right?
I think so?
Alright, I've contacted moopsten
For a similar reason, I can't make podiums of this contest 
Not perfect my any means, and very much not animated but I guess it's something 
Half of these are made by the same person, wild
:D
Maaaaayyyybe we make it so people only have one entry next time? Just a thought
I mean like all of these are amazing and if you spent the time to make a fuck ton of good art then yeah you deserve it
We had a 5 entry limit this time
3
It used to be three
I didn’t participate in this one so I don’t have any opinion on how far I got
If one person has 3 good pieces that make it to the end, that is a true showing of their skill
congratulations on winning!
If one person has 5 pieces that all place well on the same podium thats overkill
But they also deserve the money technically
I’m also thinking about the really talented people who don’t have any time on their hands and only have time for one piece, but get beat out by somebody making like 5 different animated sprites
With 3 you can also fill the podium
Yes thats what i said
3 whole drawings made it through tough battles
If all of them fill the podium thats a very well-deserved win
5 is a lot. Having 3 of those 5 win feels.. too beeg
I’m gonna be completely honest I don’t get why animations are allowed in general contests
THIS
They aren’t animated in game
Whats wrong with them though-
Animations just have an advantage overall
They take so much time to make
They’re cool but they undermine talent for time
I've been thinking about this recently. When an animation wins, yes it's well-deserved, and most likely took a lot of effort, but it creates a huge gap between people who can and can't make them
People who could make animations don’t because they don’t have time for one reason or another
We shouldn’t be penalizing people for having no time on their hands
Separate animated competitions would be the way to go imo
This, and make the time limit longer too
Basically within the contest have two winners, one animated bracket and one normal bracket
This SV contest was disorganized as is with two separate brackets!
Forgotten entries and late voting and our contest manager being overwhelmed asf!
I feel like it isn’t fair to people who can’t animate but if it’s banned it’s also unfair to people who are super talented at animation
Saying that one person being able to make good animations and one person not being able is just because of time is waaaay too oversimplified
Animation is a time commitment imo
Making a good sprite is as well
it takes a lot of knowledge too
If every competition is won by an animated sprite it makes people who can’t animate feel like they can’t win
Animation is skill too.. i have been able to animate stuff just as quickly as spriting it
But people who make good sprites are at a disadvantage because “arm of sprite go up”
The thing you can argue here is that an animation is a different medium that is above the scope of what we do. That is a valid argument
Time is just an excuse imo
Yeah in game none of the animations exist
I don’t think time is the biggest excuse, yeah it is though it is a real issue a lot of people have
But talent definitely plays a role
Yeah I agree with that, on that note if you have the ability to make an amazing animation you deserve it
Listen, either animations are genuinely on a different level from still sprites, or we're all malding and inhaling copium 
But making an average sprite that is animated well might be faster than making an excellent non-animated sprite
You just cant call it a time issue, thats way too simplified
They are on a different level
This is true, I am really simplifying it
It’s pretty telling because pretty much every contest winner recently has been a gif
Contest winners win because of their skill
I am on that copium for sure because I can’t animate for shit
Bad animations exist
I'm living proof of that 
Still would get second in a general competition tho
This
Also I'm pretty sure that there's a program that you can rotate sprites on
Aseprite
Bet
I’ll literally submit a badly animated entry this contest
I’ll make it bad on purpose
Bad animations don’t take as long
This conversation is getting pretty hot tbh
???
It’s not really a yes or no answer
I've been making gifs with GIMP and with piskel
Both of them work, though gimp is definetly not made for it 
Yeah I’m salty I can’t make animations (even if I can, I don’t put in the work to make them high quality, and in the end I feel like I make my sprites worse due to animating)
I tried making a gif with piskel and it was a nightmare
I mean its a fair argument, I think the point of contests is to make good sprites for the game but when making things that cant even be put into the game gets rewarded it doesnt make much sense
The rewards are just a role so its doesnt really matter though
I don't really see it that way because I think that if animations were banned, the same people would still win with the same (or even more polished) sprites, but I can definetly see why you see it that way too
I think the argument of time is not as relevant,,, especially since this is the winter vacation,,, skill matters most
But I can understand wanting to separate it for sponsored contests
Time is definitely relevant people are busy
It takes me a bit more time to animate badly than well; I would not be motivated
I disagree but it definitely depends on the competition
Busy WHEN?
Uh over break?
We’re always busy by your logic then!
I had homework university applications family obligations and irl activities over break
ive been to busy to make any sprites at all; people should thus only be allowed to submit blank canvases too so its an even playing field 
Strawman
Problem solved
all submissions are now just the name of the fusions
Animation takes far longer than a normal sprite is my point
Most of the year is “busy time” for anyone
If one considers winter break to be busy time… then it doesn’t matter what time is to a contest; find time to work and use skills to make good art
Auto generated submissions only
My sprite is Kyogre give me role pls
joke* 
A sprite can literally take between 5 minutes and 2 weeks to make
My bad I’ll just find the nonexistent time in my schedule
If you have no time then there is no time to do contests
Gtg I’ll talk later
Fleeing~
If you have no time then just don’t compete 
I had maybe 2 hours over the last three days to draw
Obviously
I agree
I age
NO WAY YOU AGE TOO???
I have stuff irl that’s also going on you know
Yes
I’m happy to talk to you tomorrow when I have more time
Then don’t do the contests if you have no time
Idk I just feel like its a sprite contest not an animation contest
I don’t care enough anymore to get a worse headache
theres no need to get mad yall, chill
TLDR: I suck at art and I’m salty that people are better than me
I’m not mad ~
I’m more or less disappointed in myself now
these are competitions we do for fun where we win a slightly darker blue names 
me want slightly darker blue name
This is why I feel so bad about this argument
I myself feel upset that I can’t animate as good as the best…
Means nothing but I still get pissed when people do things better than me
I also have no self eestem
plz dont make it everyone elses problem
Want to talk about it in dms?
Nah
I would understand ~
honestly in contests i kinda, ignore animations
like i just every sprite based on if it were a still image, but thats just how i vote!
Impossible
just cause any sprite is gonna look better if it moves, im here for the concepts
those juicy ideas
if animations bring in a new concept you bet im including it but usually, its just the still image
in any case; suggestion'd
I don't aim to win in contests, judges are naturally going to have bias and most people voting are going to see animation and immediately vote it if it's animated well. It's best to see contests as a means to improve your skills, or create more sprites for the game.
Well now we can just let the vote take care of it
oh yeah no same i fully accept the fact i will not be winning any contest i enter into, but eh it doesnt rly matter to me
as long as im having fun making the sprite!
it forces me to work in a specific way
I can understand the frustration when it comes to sponsored contests you can win money, I felt demotivated when I saw art was permitted too but eh.. still tried.
for example i never woudve willingly made an aegislash sprite and now ive made 2
Man I feel like I’m the complete opposite, every sprite I make has to accomplish a certain goal
Whether it’s winning a contest or filling a sheet
I only usually want to win contests so I can use the prize money to get away from domestic issues
But I am still a proud defender of the animation medium; I’m tired of people at the Oscars calling it a children’s medium! It’s hard work!!
I need to motivate myself to work on my second sprite[for this contest] and if I do so I can actually get the spriter role.. but my brain is drawing blanks.
I would never make anything if it wasn’t for a certain end goal that helps somebody or something in some way
i consider my role here to be "making sure we dont have autogens, and once theyre done letting the more talented people do mine better" yknow?
I could understand getting annoyed if you put all your effort into a sprite only for a more talented person to pretty much overwrite you immediately.
My role is “I have no time on my hands and I want to feel like I have contributed to something greater than myself”
But then I realize that mindset is superficial and I mean nothing to anybody on the internet lmao
cause originally I wanted to work on glaceon/glaceon but I saw someone else trying their hardest on it and just let them have it.
And then now it’s less about the art and more about how sad I am
Ok ima go cool off
That's not contest related though. [the glaceon thing]
Thankfully we got an extended deadline so maybe I can get some ideas for my second sprite before it ends..
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I think animations should be allowed because in the end, contests are there to give people motivation to make amazing art. And not allowing animations just loweres the level of amazingness that is possible.
It is also not fair to say that you have to animate a sprite to win. Your chances increase for sure, but going above and beyond on a non-animated sprite also increases your chances, so that doesnt really count for me
And I mean... I myself are the perfect example on that you can win a contest even without animating or being an absolute spriting genuis. If you really really wanna win a contest to get a funky blue name tag, making an animation should not be your highest priority. Your highest priority should be to become a regular in contests and to improve with every entry you do. Animating it is like step 2 or 3 or something. And that is why I'm against banning them 
weve already talked about this in the contest manager chat
whoa
like 3 days ago 🚎
WHOA
What’s the verdict?
fuck
groupchat*
lol
you cant have access to everything kiwi 
y'all will see it with the next comp
So it sounds like debating is useless since they already came to a decision
verdict: no more still sprites ever only animations
only fully fledged animated shows allowed
adds blinking animation there we go boys
there will be a restriction against animations to say the least
^^
Buy some apples!
lmao alright
Its a phrase that sounds as satisfying as touching the corners of a pixel art
I’m not high and you all know touching a plastic Minecraft sword feels great
i disagree, those things hurt
have you ever accidentally stabbed yourself with a lego minecraft sword?

Umm
I could give my personal experience
Animation can take long, YES, it definetely takes longer than doing a regular sprite, though knowing how to do it right is another thing
And so on, if someone has the time and talent in their hands to do so, go ahead
There will be always someone who will have less time or won't be able to participate for x reason
Besides, talent is not only born with, you train it, I have been drawing for years and animating for a couple
Should we be able to submit less entries? I believe than 3 is enough for future competitions
Should there be a separate category for animation? Unfortunately, there is not enough people who animate here to have enough entries for a regular contest
(Could someone tipe anything? I want to make a separate statement)
(Oh nevermind)
On the other hand...
If someone wants some animation tips, my chat is always open ^^
If no one wants a lot of animation tips, my chat is never open
The SV contest is finally officially over. What a ride
part of the reason for contest is getting a much new sprites for the game as posible we dont 1 one person to flood the contest with super low effort sprites but we do want as many good sprites per person as posible
well also it can make it really unapproachable for peopleif they figure the amazing established rtists will just have a dozen spritesor somethin
Btw, I hope this doesn't sound too greedy but, how will the winners of the SV contest receive their prizes? Do they get a DM asking for their PayPal account?
I guess Moopsten contacts you

You are not required to answer that question
Doesn’t naspyta deserve newest contest champion now?
might be different for sponsored contests
Guess I'll never win a contest since I really don't want to learn animation 
True
rip

Let's be real, I was never gonna win a contest anyways 
I have also been in that position
Entering almost every contest thinking at one point I would win
Yes
How foolish I was 
Only 4 people are allowed to win a contest : katten , husk , Arinna and another random person
TRUE
we need a rookie contest
Only people who have been spriters for less than a year can enter
Oh no wait that includes Husk 
People who have made less than 100 sprites
Me
Imagine being so bad at spriting you need your own bad spriting contest
(literally Me ong)
That also includes me 
FUCK
Ok uh how about a contest for people that never won a contest
That doesn't include you
Im gonna try to win this contest without animation
Mission impossible
Katten please stop entering contests 
It's katten's sprites that made me wanna win one
Still 
And i only animated klinklang/garchomp because scrapi said he'd only recognize that klinklang is a good pokemon for fusions if it won a contest
And i really wanted that
Guess you were filled with determination after all 
Ayyy
Undertale references never get old
but then I can't join :p
I only made 7 
My skills lay in making many decent sprites. But not epic ones :p
My skill is in making mediocre sprites that can't even go into if
what if I made an IF that could go in a sprite 
yeah it mightve quite possibly been me that started this animation shit LMAO
woopsie
literally been done a million times before but ok 🚎
Yeah, the deoxys one was what made me think of animating
the thing with animations is that it takes a lot of effort to do them, uh, correctly
for example if you have a sprite move wayy to slow itll look clunky and weird
though sometimes people might just be voting for the animation for the fact its an animation lmaoo
And still gets 2nd place
No offense to anyone who participated in the last contest but there’s no way klinklang/latios is only 2 votes better than metagross/salamence
you know if we really wanted people to not make animations we could just make it a rule that all animations have to be in the gen v style
4 common cycles one rare
Nothing's stopping you from doing that as a contest manager 👀
yeah thas not what were doing tho 
Or just have some contests not allow animation the same way some dont allow collabs
lol ye
next one wont have animations
Sounds good
Oh sweet the contest is 2 days longer




