other-pokemon-games

[sweet crypt]

Why does bro have a -SpD nature lmao

[coarse estuary]

id probs be over cap just because monomaster allows you to go in at champ cap then level over it once in the elite 4

[sweet crypt]

Ok yeah that Dnite is cooked unless you're 0 IVs, -SpA nature

And then you low roll

[coarse estuary]

the only problem is that scizor doesnt get baton pass normally and monomaster doesnt allow breeding

[sweet crypt]

Oh shit it doesn't?

Ok that's problematic

[coarse estuary]

yeah its an egg move

[sweet crypt]

I was referring to banning breeding

Not the egg move

Agility is also only an egg move for Empoleon

[coarse estuary]

yeah monomasters doesnt allow you to breed your pokemon. such as they also ban things like the pokewalker and stuff like that so anyone can attempt it

if you want i can send the full rules

[sweet crypt]

Tailwind can also be used I guess

But it doesn't last long at all

[cursive cosmos]

When he no give snack

[sweet crypt]

And Empoleon itself doesn't learn it so you need to teach it to Scizor or Skarm

In that case probably just Heatproof Bronzong I guess

I guess technically Aggron isn't weak to Fire Blast

But Aggron has a SpDef stat of 60

And a HP stat of 70

Bro is NOT tanking Fire Blast

Bastiodon also isn't weak to Fire Blast but lmfao

[rough oyster]

Isn't there a grass move that sizzlepede can only learn from egg?

[sweet crypt]

Power Whip

[rough oyster]

Yeaaaa

[sweet crypt]

But I think it's TR

Gyarados gets it too

I know that because I've used Power Whip Gyarados a bunch

[rough oyster]

Oh fr gyarados gets power whip?

[sweet crypt]

Lost it in Gen 9 though

So it's only a Gen 8 thing

[rough oyster]

Ahh

[sweet crypt]

Centiscorch doesn't need to worry about that, though!

Because it isn't in Gen 9

[rough oyster]

I like Seviper, tho it's poison, he can learn stuff like Giga Drain, and Agua Tail

[coarse estuary]

oh just thought of another reason why piplup isnt the choice. piplup would lose in sprout tower

[rough oyster]

Oh

Doesn't he learn ice type tho? Or is that not till closer to Empoleon?

[coarse estuary]

you cant get any ice type moves early in any pokemon game unless you start with an ice type

[rough oyster]

Ah gotcha

[sweet crypt]

Ah true

[coarse estuary]

yeah plus i would only have piplup atp anyways since the onix trade i cant do since it would require me to catch an illegal pokemon so onix would be a post gym 1 mon only

[sweet crypt]

You don't get a Metal Coat that early anyways I think

And Onix vs Bellsprout doesn't sound like a particularly good MU either

Considering the whole quad weak to Grass thing

[coarse estuary]

yeah you cant get any metal coats until post whitney

[tight granite]

Pokopia is likle the first time i realize how similar Pawmo and Pawmot really are
i got Pawmo and then later got the Habitat for Pawmot and was like ...but i already have Pawmot? what

[coarse estuary]

pokopia is so cool. i watched a vid earlier today of people playing prophunt in it and it was s fun

[tight granite]

Zorua lets you play prop hunt with them too..i keep forgetting to try it out

[tired vortex]

I am finally replaying pkmn yellow and man I forgot how good it is, but also thank the gods for speedup

[inland crane]

How do I catch this pokemon

[sweet crypt]

You don't

Have fun in the Void!

Anyways we need to stop making joke Abilities called "As Three" parodying Calyrex

That's now how English works

[tired vortex]

I'm also gonna replay crystal but I know that crystal has a notoriously bad level curve which I'm not excited for. Honestly as bad as it is I should really replay let's go Pikachu/Eevee cuz like...they're not THAT bad

[sweet crypt]

Fun fact I only learnt recently: Crystal just

Does not have the Ampharos line???

[tired vortex]

Uhhhh yeah isn't ampharos a gen 4 mon

ITS GEN 2?!

What the hell that's weirrrrrrddddd

[sweet crypt]

Yup

Available in Gold and Silver

But not in Crystal

Because it's a Johto game

Gold and Silver put every single Dark type in the Postgame

With the sole exception of Umbreon

[tired vortex]

That's...weird. Never heard of a pokemon from a generation straight up not being available in the game

[sweet crypt]

Who is competing with 4 other Pokemon

From a Pokemon you can only get via static encounter

And there's a good chance you can't breed for more

[tired vortex]

Seriously???? What is WRONG with gen 2

[sweet crypt]

Because Eevee is far more likely to be male than female

Really, if you want to play a Johto game, HGSS is the best option

[tired vortex]

I'm like...unironically baffled that gen 2 was successful enough for gen 3 to exist

[verbal tundra]

shiny Scoliopede

[sweet crypt]

Because at least you can get these Pokemon earlier, if only in the Johto Safari Zone

[tired vortex]

You're right but like I want to play the ooooold one

[sweet crypt]

And while it doesn't fix the stupid level curve bullshit

It does at least look pretty

[tired vortex]

It does but also I'm like...kinda into the gen 1/2 graphics rn

I might play through all the mainline pokemon games in order

[sweet crypt]

RBY are an interesting set of games

[tired vortex]

They're weird but like...they're good

[sweet crypt]

Because I think they're probably the only Pokemon games that you probably cannot beat without any glitches

[tired vortex]

...what?

[sweet crypt]

On account of how every single stat drop or status infliction on any of your Pokemon is a glitch

[tired vortex]

HUH?

[sweet crypt]

Well not Poison I guess

And I guess not Freeze too

[tired vortex]

Wait elaborate please

[sweet crypt]

Basically, whenever you alter your stats in RBY

The game just

Reapplies the badge boost?

Yeah

[tired vortex]

Whuh

[sweet crypt]

There's also the infamous 1/256 glitch

[tired vortex]

So like if you up your attack your badge boost effects get added again?

[tired vortex]

Wuh

[sweet crypt]

Psychic being immune to Ghost too

But that doesn't matter

[tired vortex]

WHAT

[sweet crypt]

Considering Gengar Lick fails to 3HKO Abra

[tired vortex]

WHAT IS WRONG WITH GEN 1 I DIDNT KNOW ANY OF THIS

[sweet crypt]

Lick is the only Ghost move that is affected by type MUs btw

[tired vortex]

I barely know what the hell badge boosts are

[sweet crypt]

Basically, in older Pokemon games, badges give stat boosts

Not all badges

[tired vortex]

MU?

[sweet crypt]

But some badges

[sweet crypt]

Matchups

[tired vortex]

Right I just don't know which ones or what the boosts are

[sweet crypt]

The 1/256 glitch ntw

Btw

Refers to the fact that every move that has an accuracy stat only has 255/256th of its accuracy

In other words, a 100% accurate move has a 1/256 chance of missing

[tired vortex]

I

Am genuinely baffled

Flabbergasted even

I forgot that these games are held together with hopes and prayers

I guess I know why there's only 1 gen 1 ghost now

[sweet crypt]

Oh also Mega Drain works into Substitute

Believe it or not

This is the glitch

[tired vortex]

Wh

Jeez

[sweet crypt]

Mega Drain isn't supposed to work into Substitute

Pokemon, everybody

[tired vortex]

Jeeeezzz

[sweet crypt]

There's also a bunch of desync glitches with Sleep and Freeze

Speaking of Freeze, this is more of a balancing issue

But guess how likely you are to thaw from Freeze in Gen 1?

[tired vortex]

The most I know is that poison type is basically useless because like all grass types in gen 1 are also poison

[tired vortex]

I'm afraid to

[sweet crypt]

0%

[tired vortex]

FUCKIN HELL

[sweet crypt]

You cannot thaw without items

Unless your opponent hits you with a Fire move

Or Haze for some reason iirc

[tired vortex]

I thought using a fire move also melted ice

[tired vortex]

WUH

[sweet crypt]

Even in later gens, not all Fire moves thaw the user

But in Gen 1, the user cannot thaw by using any Fire move

[muted moat]

dont contact moves in some gens remove the status as well?

[tired vortex]

I'm never complaining about scarlet/violet bugs again (I didn't do it in the first place)

[sweet crypt]

Gen 1's glitches are on a whole different level to any other generation

Heck, RBY has like

[tired vortex]

Also it's so weird that gust is a normal type

[sweet crypt]

20-30 glitch Pokemon?

[tired vortex]

Seriously? I know about like 3

[sweet crypt]

And some have stats that eclipse everything else that the series has seen since

With the sole exception of Eternamax Eternatus, of course

[tired vortex]

There's like a fucked up Bulbasaur, bad egg, and missingno

[sweet crypt]

Neither fucked up Bulbasaur nor Bad Egg exist here

Missingno does

[tired vortex]

WHA

[sweet crypt]

But it has the stats of a piece of garbage

[tired vortex]

I thought I knew things about pokemon

[sweet crypt]

The most impactful glitch in Competitive Pokemon, however, is probably the Hyper Beam KO glitch

Where landing KOs with Hyper Beam prevents the recharge turn

[tired vortex]

There's still gen 1 comp??

[sweet crypt]

Which is honestly pretty fucking sick

[tired vortex]

Ok that one I think I knew about when I was little but when I heard about it I thought it was like always not just gen 1

[tired vortex]

Oh yeah it's sick as fuck

[sweet crypt]

This glitchy mess with tons of poor balancing attracts a decent number of people apparently

And tbf I don't blame them

There's no generation like Gen 1 when it comes to battles

[tired vortex]

I mean it's also still a pretty good game

Despite all the duct tape and bubblegum

[sweet crypt]

There's 2 Pokemon that are present on nearly 100% of OU teams

And that number used to be even higher

2, I mean, not 100%

[tired vortex]

Some of these glitches I'm wondering how they were ever found like uh...the missingno glitch cuz it takes so much setup

[sweet crypt]

And the tier has a pretty set in stone Top 5

The 3 Normal Types Tauros, Snorlax and Chansey, and the 2 Psychic types Exeggutor and Starmie

[tired vortex]

Y'know that makes sense actually

[sweet crypt]

I sure do wonder what the 2 best types in Gen 1 are

[tired vortex]

Those are all pretty tanky

[tired vortex]

Lmaaaao

[sweet crypt]

And of course, the 2 banned Pokemon, Mewtwo and Mew

[tired vortex]

I know psychic is broken as fuck gen 1 but is normal all that crazy?

[sweet crypt]

The former being in contention for being one of the contenders for most broken Pokemon

Y'know, one of 2

Well one of 3

Gen 2 Snorlax is something else

[tired vortex]

Broken as in glitchy or just op

[sweet crypt]

OP

[tired vortex]

Really??

[sweet crypt]

The Top 3 is inarguably Gen 1 Mewtwo, Gen 2 Snorlax and Gen 9 Calyrex Shadow

[tired vortex]

Calyrex is surprising

[sweet crypt]

Gen 2 Snorlax has a 100% usage rate in both OU and Ubers

You can't argue with that

[tired vortex]

Huh, weird, is it just cuz it's tanky?

[sweet crypt]

It is easily the best Pokemon in both tiers

And the one time people tried to ban Snorlax in OU (because 100% usage rate is ridiculous), the tier somehow got worse

[tired vortex]

HAHAHA

I'm so glad I don't do comp

[sweet crypt]

Calyrex Shadow is just a bitch

The singular weakness it has is Yveltal

Yveltal isn't in Gen 9

[tired vortex]

Really? I guess I've never messed with calyrex at all

[sweet crypt]

Chaos ensues

[tired vortex]

Mmmm yveltal...I love gen 6 so much

[sweet crypt]

Sucker Punch I guess is also an issue unless it reads your fucking ass

But none of that matters

Because the defining part of Gen 9 is Terastalisation

[tired vortex]

OH that one

[sweet crypt]

And Calyrex Shadow is easily the strongest abuser

[tired vortex]

Wait wha

[sweet crypt]

Caly-S with Tera is so broken that it literally got banned from Ubers in a singular fucking day

The tier made for broken Pokemon

[tired vortex]

Why's that?

[sweet crypt]

To put it simply, it's faster than everything that isn't trash

[inland crane]

This time got it without encountering missingeverything.

[sweet crypt]

And kills everything as easily

The one time you think you have it cornered, it Terastalises

And you don't have it cornered anymore

[tired vortex]

Huh, that's...weird

Man pokemon is so busted

[sweet crypt]

Gen 9 feels like Gamefreak just

Decided to forget to balance?

Previous gens you could tell they're putting some thought into things

But like

[tired vortex]

I honestly like gen 9 a lot but yeah I agree I mean the game is kinda piss easy

[sweet crypt]

Why did we invite Calyrex Shadow here

We left Yveltal out

And kept Calyrex Shadow

Are we fr

There's only 3 other Pokemon in the history of AG

[tired vortex]

I think it's crazy that you straight up can't have certain pokemon in some generations. Like we have so many pokemon that some just can't even be transferred in

[sweet crypt]

Gen 4 Arceus, Gen 6/7 Mega Rayquaza and Gen 8 Zacian (both forms)

[still relic]

So I figured this would be the place to ask, I'm playing a Cobblemon pack and got two really good choices for my final mon: My team is Gyarados, Houndoom (Favorite mon, not swapping it out), Venusaur, Garchomp, a Shiny Lucario, and the additions I'm thinking are either Magnezone or Mega Skarmory

[sweet crypt]

Calyrex Shadow stands out as easily the stupidest

Calyrex Shadow was additionally extremely stupid in Gen 8

[tired vortex]

Wait there's a mega skarmory

[still relic]

As of ZA maingame, yeah

[sweet crypt]

With the only reason it didn't join Zacian in AG being Yveltal's existence

And even then, Yveltal is severely nerfed by Caly-S

[tired vortex]

Oh and they already added it to cobblemon? Neat

[sweet crypt]

Because Yveltal's best sets don't check Caly-S

[still relic]

you need a side mod that adds the ZA megas, but it has up to the DLC forms.

[sweet crypt]

So Yveltal has to run weaker sets so that teams don't just fall apart in the wake of Calyrex

[tired vortex]

Honestly don't know if I'll ever play ZA or even winds/waves I'm kinda over new pokemon games

[sweet crypt]

Yveltal is the Number 1 Pokemon in the metagame btw

And tbf part of it is probably just because of Calyrex

[tired vortex]

That's weird as fuck competitive is freaky as hell

[tired vortex]

Yaaaaaay I love yveltal

[inland crane]

I am sure Miraidon now is also AG

[sweet crypt]

To put things into perspective on how stupid Calyrex Shadow is

[sweet crypt]

I forgor

But it's probably the least broken of the AG mons?

Actually I could see an argument for it being more broken than Arceus or Mega Ray

Idk

[sweet crypt]

There is a Showdown-Only Metagame

That allows every Pokemon and every mechanic

(Except Dynamax)

[tired vortex]

Ok I have to sleep but yeah idk I probably won't play any of the new pkmn games I might TRY ZA just cuz I love kalos but I feel like pokemon is going downhill

[sweet crypt]

(Fuck Dynamax)

And even then, Calyrex was still the joint most broken Pokemon

[still relic]

S'why I'm playing around on Cobblemon, lol. I think I might take the Mega Skar, just for the "New" factor, and I have most other things pretty much checked by coverage on the rest of the team

[sweet crypt]

Only being joined by 2 Pokemon that literally don't exist

[tired vortex]

Dynamax is lame and I genuinely hate the fuck out of sw/sh

[sweet crypt]

Encore Mega Gengar and Tera Shedinja

[inland crane]

"What if we took Z moves and made it a transformation"

[sweet crypt]

To explain those 2 more briefly, Encore Mega Gengar wins as soon as you use a Status Move if it switches in

[tired vortex]

" and also worse"

[sweet crypt]

And Tera Shedinja is the ultimate guessing game

[tired vortex]

I love z moves

[tired vortex]

Oh baller

[sweet crypt]

With the penalty for a wrong guess being instant loss

So these 2 Pokemon not existing makes sense

What doesn't make sense is that Tera Caly-S exists

[tired vortex]

You can't tera Shedinja?

[sweet crypt]

Shedinja is not in Gen 9

[tired vortex]

Ih

Oh

[sweet crypt]

And thus, you cannot Terastalise it

[tired vortex]

Well damn

That sucks ass

[sweet crypt]

You can't run Encore on Mega Gengar because Mega Gengar was removed in Gen 8

And Gengar only gets Encore in SV

Not even Champions btw, Gengar loses Encore in Champions

Gamefreak knows they can't let Mega Gengar get Encore

[tired vortex]

Ok I must sleep but FUCKING pokemon Nintendo in general is going downhill a lot. I think the best things they've done in recent years is Mario wonder and totk but like that might be it for me

Also legends Arceus is good as fuck

[sweet crypt]

I don't think Competitive being this unbalanced would be an issue

... if VGC didn't exist

VGC is more balanced than Singles

But it's still very messy in terms of balancing

If there's to be an official Competitive format for something, you'd hope it'd be less stupid than Gen 9 VGC is

But alas

At least it isn't Gen 9 Singles?

[sweet crypt]

Gn btw

Anyways from a purely Pokemon design standpoint I definitely think Pokemon has mostly improved

Gen 9 has probably my favourite roster of Pokemon overall

And Gen 7 isn't far behind

[tired vortex]

Gen 9 is SUPER good and so is 7, idk how to feel about ZA yet and well, we will see with wind/waves....the starters feel like gen 1 nostalgia bait ngl anyways gn for real this time

[sweet crypt]

And tbh that's the main reason I'm a Pokemon fan, Pokemon design cool = me likey

Mega Meowstic goes so hard

Please give this Psychic Surge Gamefreak I beg

VGC can go get fucked idc

(I do care)

(But at the same time, it'd be mad funny, and if Rillaboom starts existing again it'll be fine)

[neon folio]

Blissey torture ritual.

[tired vortex]

To be fair I'd be less mad if the switch 2 wasnt dumb as hell

[smoky gyro]

https://youtu.be/jNMWkD5VsZ8?si=n8c49YGTsiv4xhmV

This is interesting

[tired vortex]

What the fuck lmao

Does that mean it's possible to have a seed that gives you all shiny pokemon or smth

[coarse viper]

Ii...how?

[cloud lark]

Finally got around to doing the latest ZA regulation, and my lord the false advertising is real

It presents itself as a means of getting tons of Mega Shards. I got around 300 from it

Which sounds cool until you realize how easily you get that much just by walking around breaking stuff

[noble zealot]

At least it's not Wobbuffet vs. Wobbuffet.

Particularly with Gen 3 mechanics.

[neon folio]

We were training those blissey so we could farm them for exp.

[inland sand]

Gonna wait for ReLumi to come out to make more fakemon but aitsu yugioh as a fakemon

[coarse viper]

Noice

[inland crane]

Guess we would either beg or learn coding on our own for Dechibified (basically makes game NPCs have normal models and allows you to be like any character that appeared in Masters) version of it

Well Adomin8er is here too but didn't send any message

[tired vortex]

I forgot that you can straight up get a level 31 dugtrio in gen 1 in Diglett tunnel...

And the level 16 pigeotto in viridian forest

Are there any other of those rare but high level finds in gen 1? I don't remember any

[woeful cosmos]

wurmple shiny is so tuff

[tired vortex]

That's not the normal shiny what game is that

[rugged comet]

Rejuvenation

[tired vortex]

Huh I'll have to check that out

Is it a rom hack or is it a standalone like PIF

[rugged comet]

standalone, link is here https://www.rebornevo.com/rejuvenation/ not yet finished but has content up to gym 15, and a major update not too far away

[sweet crypt]

Why does Chloroblast work with Rock Head?

Neither Mind Blown nor Steel Beam do

And all 3 do a set 50% of the user's HP in recoil

Chat should I make a Pokemon tierlist for each Pokemon Type?

The tierlist would be skewed compared to the normal tierlist

So that I can more accurately show the difference in opinion between them

[tired vortex]

Oooooh thank you

[sweet crypt]

I'm currently waiting on the next update so that I can pick Quaxly as my starter

I've played Reborn so I think I know what to expect

I've also done a bit of research into obtainability of certain Pokemon and moveset related stuff

[tired vortex]

I forgot how much I like gen 1

Currently playing yellow, got Pikachu, the three starters, a Drowzee, and a cefable because of TM flexibility, might replace it with Snorlax? Idk what Snorlax learns in this gen

[supple basalt]

Pokerogue swapped the starters around as a fucking april fools joke =_=

I have never in all my time playing PR wiped to Cyrus

[unborn granite]

If only they swapped the trainers as well.

[supple basalt]

Trainers didn't change for me lmao Cyrus is still Cyrus

[unborn granite]

I edited my screenshots for this. I said "if only".

[supple basalt]

Oh no they did change trainer sprites (I finally made it progress)

Byron

[lunar pollen]

does anyone have a shiny dragapult they can trade me

[woeful cosmos]

whats that game bnrh

[supple basalt]

Pokerogue

[coarse estuary]

took a quiz and found my top 10 fave pokemon in order. (read left to right top to bottom)

[mighty robin]

why’s bruxish in the top 5

[coarse estuary]

because i like the tooths fish

[dull crow]

thats 12

also I wouldnt call a quiz a pokemon game

[coarse estuary]

oh no. someone who isnt a mod is telling me what i am/am not allowed to post. i should smite my discord account

[dull crow]

or try not being a jerk and just posting in the right place outta consideration to others?

[coarse estuary]

i know this is the right place so im not going to remove it just because you dont know otherwise

[cloud lark]

Apparently Pokémon home is getting updated with ZA support April 2nd, so we might be learning all the Mega abilities soon

[coarse estuary]

i hope you mean pokemon home.

[cloud lark]

Two different names and softwares for what essentially do the same thing, I think it's an understandable mistake

[supple basalt]

Does it contain spoilers? No
Does it contain Pokémon? Yes

So it's fine here

[dull crow]

is it a game?

[supple basalt]

Quizzes can be games

[tired vortex]

I'm close to beating pokemon yellow! I think it might be for the first time? I'm pretty sure I gave up every time I played it before because of the level curve

[supple basalt]

Honestly this channel should more just be Other Pokémon Content

[tired vortex]

Which I now realize isn't actually a huge deal

[supple basalt]

It kinda is since that's a lot of patience 😂 Since it includes no QOL changes

And Pikachu as your starter without it having increased stats like it does in let's go

Is pain

[coarse estuary]

thx for having my back cheeto

[tired vortex]

Well I mean my pokemon are level 38-39 and I just beat Sabrina and koga

[supple basalt]

Ahh

[tired vortex]

And I've barely had to grind other than when I got Charmander Bulbasaur and Squirtle

My team rn is those 3 final evos, Pikachu, clefable, and hypno

[supple basalt]

A solid squad

[tired vortex]

Yuuuup

A little basic but still. Would've used Snorlax but I already gave clefable a bunch of good tms

I might end up doing HeartGold instead of crystal...but idk yet. I mean I'm into the old graphics rn but genuinely crystal is uh...not very good.

Also thank the gods for super speedup

The totally legit Gameboy I'm using has up to like 8x speedup

[sweet crypt]

This is the best channel for this

Because #off-topic is specifically for anything not related to Pokemon

[dull crow]

general exists

[sweet crypt]

While #other-pokemon-games is for anything related to the Pokemon games

Pokemon are related to the Pokemon games

Because the Pokemon games have Pokemon in them

[dull crow]

wouldnt specify games if it meant eveyrthing pokemon related

[tired vortex]

so everything pokemon related is related to the games

Because everything pokemon related comes from the games

[sweet crypt]

I'd say this channel can have anything Pokemon related in it for that reason yeah

[coarse estuary]

you are free to make your own server with your own clarifaitons on the rules but for now you can not get my post removed

[sweet crypt]

Partially because more people would complain if you posted non Pokemon Game Pokemon content in other places

There's complaints either ways

But you can't please everyone

[tired vortex]

Pokemon stuff goes in the pokemon channel, infinite fusion stuff goes in the infinite fusion channel, and upcoming pokemon games go in that respective channel

[woeful cosmos]

i decided to take inspo and do my own top whatever this is, got bored around mightyena and started rushing tho so might be outta place sorta

[woeful cosmos]

makes sense

[dull crow]

bruh I made a basic criticism, my problems more with you're rude as heck response than debate over channel stuff

you act like I tried to get you banned

[supple basalt]

Both of you please drop it

[sweet crypt]

Anyways I don't like that favourite Pokemon picker myself because...

Idk I don't have a reason

[woeful cosmos]

based

[sweet crypt]

I just don't like it as much lmao

[coarse estuary]

already did lol idk why they still yappin bout it

[sweet crypt]

Better than the other favourite Pokemon picker thing

The one that's a big ass graph

[tired vortex]

Ok so what are people's opinions on pokemon crystal

[dull crow]

cause I keep getting pinged about ti?

[tired vortex]

Should I bother playing it or should I skip to hgss

I don't think I've ever actually gotten through a gen 2 game in its entirety

[sweet crypt]

I mean worst case scenario if you aren't enjoying it you can just

Stop playing

[supple basalt]

HGSS is 100% worth it

Silver is better in it

[tired vortex]

I'm gonna play hgss anyways

But like should I skip crystal?

[sweet crypt]

The Johto games in general have some flaws in them that I really can't overlook, HGSS included

[supple basalt]

I wouldn't just to see how much the remake changed it

[sweet crypt]

But you don't need to ask me about it

[tired vortex]

Truuue

[sweet crypt]

Because people have went over their flaws a lot already

[tired vortex]

I mean I've played both games before

Just never fully beaten them

[supple basalt]

I mean do you plan on skipping FRLG?

[tired vortex]

Yes cuz I've played that a billion times lol

[sweet crypt]

I think most people would rather play FRLG than LGPE

[tired vortex]

Ok so

Hot take

I like lgpe

It's not a traditional pokemon game but like...it's still pretty good tbh

[coarse estuary]

yeah thats fair to skip a game after playing it loads of times

[supple basalt]

Yeah fair

[sweet crypt]

Ngl some people in this Discord server treat enjoying LGPE as a warcrime

[tired vortex]

Yeahhhh and I mean I play infinite fusion a lot which is almost the exact same with some key quality of life changes

[supple basalt]

What's lgpe

[sweet crypt]

Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee

[coarse estuary]

the lets go games

[supple basalt]

Oh

[tired vortex]

Seriously? Lolllll I mean it's weird sure but it's a fun play even so

[coarse estuary]

ive also seen people treat using the pokemon you wanna use and not what they want to use as a warcrime

[tired vortex]

Ugh yeah I hate when people insist you use only the strongest pokemans

[sweet crypt]

Not really as much in this server though

[supple basalt]

They're not bad. A bit too easy and not much changed (not to mention the one Pokémon you will probably never get because it's tied to an accessory that's way too expensive)

[tired vortex]

I'm of the belief that there are no weak pokemon, only weak trainers

[sweet crypt]

Usually I keep my responses to "Hey what should I do with this team is it good" as "You're playing a Pokemon game of course it'll work"

[tired vortex]

Yeah but like still, fun play overall

[coarse estuary]

lol the amount of times people in general have told me to release mons or reset my game because a mon or starter i have on the team for MY run that I want to use is wrong is way to high

[supple basalt]

Yeah. Not something I go back to regularly but still not bad

It could be worse

[tired vortex]

Disgustang

[supple basalt]

It could be BDSP

[sweet crypt]

Ngl one thing that annoys me more than that

[tired vortex]

Yeah! I should replay it at some point

[sweet crypt]

Is when people shit on you for using strong Pokemon

That shit pisses me off so fucking much

[tired vortex]

Bdsp...sure is a pokemon game. I don't like gen 4 already very much, so....bdsp sure is a pokemon game.

[sweet crypt]

Ah yes I know I'm playing OU

[tired vortex]

Although my least favorite games are sw/sh

[supple basalt]

I got shit on so hard for using the event Manaphy in my BDSP playthrough

[sweet crypt]

But I can't use any Paradox or Legendary Pokemon

Because something something unfair

Something something bullshit

[coarse estuary]

it reminds me of a server im not in anymore where someone tried to tell me that my casual run HAD to become a nuzlocke because my pokemon were nicknamed and if i didnt turn my run into a nuzlocke they would break my games and consoles so i could never play wrong again

[sweet crypt]

I'm sure fucking Latios is an unfair advantage in Gen 9 OU

[tired vortex]

I....what?! Wait actually huh?????????

[sweet crypt]

It definitely doesn't get instantly obliterated by Kingambit and Ting-Lu

Nope not at all

[tired vortex]

NICKNAMES alone make it a nuzlocke somehow? What???

[supple basalt]

Or the serene grace Jirachi anyone who uses should die apparently

Showdown is next level

😂

[tired vortex]

And not following said nuzlocke tools means....breaking a console??? Some people are so fucking stupid

[sweet crypt]

Ngl Showdown toxicity is entirely from people who will only ever play it once or twice

It's always the low ladder freaks who have 3 games to their name with all of them being losses

Anywhere above that and usually the players will just be silent

[coarse estuary]

yeah they were so uptight about it a mod had to come in and mute them from talking for a week. like no bro was just so i only nickname my mons for nuzlockes pilled that they were like if you nickname your mons it has to be a nuzlocke or you will be punished by my hand

[sweet crypt]

Maybe you'll get a few GLHFs or GGs

But usually they just queue up, play, and then leave once the battle is over

[supple basalt]

I guess I've been cheating nuzlockes this entire time

[tired vortex]

Jeeeeesus fuck. Insane.

I used to only do nicknames in nuzlockes but that got me in the habit of doing nicknames always

[sweet crypt]

Ngl the nicknaming rule to Nuzlockes is probably something I'd struggle with a lot

Because I have 0 creativity

[tired vortex]

It's really only there so you get attached to them they don't need to be creative

Name your Pikachu Dave or smth

[sweet crypt]

If I named them numbers, does that count?

[supple basalt]

JaidenAnimations: Catch the first Pokémon per route then nickname it to setup for emotional trauma

Kinda sums it up

[coarse estuary]

its not even a real rule. its a rule you can apply if you want but not required

[sweet crypt]

My starter will be 1, because it's my first Pokemon

And so on

[tired vortex]

I....I mean if you get attached to said number I guess

[sweet crypt]

It's optimising the gameplay trust

That way I reduce emotional attachment

And can make optimal plays better

[tired vortex]

Yeah I mean it doesn't change the nuzlocke at all but it is fun

[sweet crypt]

This Pidgey will die if it increases my odds of success

[supple basalt]

Nicknaming has always been in the base rules I thought. I've never seen it in optional rules

[supple basalt]

Death Fodder

[tired vortex]

It is base rules but it doesn't technically change anything so you could refuse to nickname in a personal run

YAAAAY DEATH FODDER

[sweet crypt]

As a Competitive player, I'd say I'd have the sacrificing thing down pretty well in a Nuzlocke

[tired vortex]

Lmao

[supple basalt]

Speaking of Nuzlockes.

Do you wanna continue the soullink Rose tomorrow I'm p sure it's night for both of us

[sweet crypt]

I'm not a stranger to having to sacrifice Pokemon to increase my odds

[tired vortex]

Yes it is late uh I have class tomorrow

Can we do Thursday?

[supple basalt]

Yeah that's why I said not tonight haha

[coarse estuary]

tbh the im very stickler on nuzlockes but the only time i get mad at other peoples runs are when people try to get more than 1 mon in a route, give mons more than life, have a way to revive dead mons, reset fights if they misclick or they act like a death doesnt count because they werent paying attention. oh also the people who reset the game until they get the mon they want as their encounter

[supple basalt]

Thursday sounds good

[tired vortex]

Perfect!

I don't like post my nuzlockes personally so like...I fudge the rules a little when the need arises

Well besides our soul link cuz that's more legit

[supple basalt]

Literally everything you said is cheating base rules

[sweet crypt]

I've started Nuzlockes but I usually just forget to complete them lmao

I get sidetracked very easily

I have started a few Soul Links too

Those didn't actually end because I forgot

They ended because I thought it'd be funny to make it a randomiser

[coarse estuary]

exactly. when people do those things and still act like their nuzlocke is legit i will call them out on it. like no becky you cant revive a dead mon with a revive you found in the wild or no becky you cant reset the fight because you clicked scald instead of surf

[sweet crypt]

And the people I partnered up with consistently had to fight Dragon Rage Pokemon early

[tired vortex]

Dragon rage clause exists for a reason

[sweet crypt]

But it's funnier if it doesn't

[sweet crypt]

Does that 10 BP really matter that much

[supple basalt]

Yeah I never play without DR Clause cause I refuse to lose to that BS

[tired vortex]

Yeahhhh

[sweet crypt]

Or did they Burn a Guts Pokemon

[supple basalt]

Scald > Surf

[sweet crypt]

I have won battles against Sonic Boom users in early game though

[supple basalt]

Ngl

[coarse estuary]

depends. like sometimes people need to deal more/less damage on a mon to make a certain thing happen or they accidently made an opponent stronger

[supple basalt]

Sonic Boom is 20 damage. Dragon rage is 40

[sweet crypt]

Ah true, there are very HP specific strats

[sweet crypt]

I'm aware

Sonic Boom is not as much of an issue

[tired vortex]

Oh shit articuno

Should...should I use articuno

[sweet crypt]

And I haven't really had to fight any early Dragon Rage users myself

[sweet crypt]

Randomised movesets or nah?

[tired vortex]

Vanilla pkmn yellow

[coarse estuary]

like i know for me whenever i do usum runs i try to make sure i do just enough so the starter teacher emily has doesnt ever get in the blaze/torrent/overgrow range

[sweet crypt]

I thought you found it in a randomiser because of wording lmao

[tired vortex]

Nah just

Forgot it was here

[sweet crypt]

Makes sense, that shit sounds terrifying to deal with

[coarse estuary]

it is hard early game because at most you only have 3 mons and depending on what starter she has it can be much harder to deal with.

also because if you dont use pinwheel/gift clause you only have 1 mon at that point

[tired vortex]

"you missed the pokemon" fuck off game freak lemme catch the funny bird

[sweet crypt]

Yeah I'm aware

[coarse estuary]

on a similar usum topic my fave challenge run i ever did was when i beat pokemon ultra moon without ever dealing direct damage

[tired vortex]

Thanks to save scumming I caught articuno :3 I might replace hypno...

Yeahhhh cuz clefable has psychic

[pine solstice]

Can someone with legends z-a help me with the trade evolution task

[inland crane]

Y'all got a new dex entry on bulbapedia lol

[inland crane]

this switchdown was close lol

[sweet crypt]

Bro clicked Tera a turn or a few too late

[inland crane]

I used tera thought it will cure the burn and he didn't tera at all 😭

[sweet crypt]

Yeah you're uh

Supposed to Tera before getting burnt

So that you become immune to it

[inland crane]

Well it still helped with double fairy/double ice

[supple basalt]

I am 100% convinced the increased shiny odds is an absolute troll, only increasing the odds on NPC Pokemon

On Pokerogue

[sweet crypt]

It's April Fools

In fact, iirc, increased Trainer Shiny Odds was an effect of last year's April Fools event too

Is the menu theme Bad Romance again btw?

It isn't

But uhh

Did I just hear Megalovania?

[supple basalt]

That's so dumb I have two shiny charms and every shiny I've run into has been an NPC mon

[sweet crypt]

Oh the sprites are shuffled

It's a good thing I can read

[supple basalt]

Yeah lol I was ranting about that not too long ago

[sweet crypt]

This Sentret looking like Ogerpon Hearthflame would be bad if it actually was Ogerpon

Abra is just

Ralts

Basically nothing changed

[supple basalt]

Lol

The most synergy-less squad ever

[sweet crypt]

I like that there's just

Stellar Terapagos in my hatchlist

DELTARUNE MUSIC

Cress looks like Jacinthe and is playing her theme

I am NOT complaining

In fact I'm gonna just stall killing this Panpour

Shroomish

[supple basalt]

Like all the gym leaders look like her

She just hijacked all the gyms

[sweet crypt]

All the UTDR songs I recognised in the April Fool's Trainer Battle Theme

• Ruder Buster
• Don't Forget
• Black Knife
• From Now On
• ASGORE

This is surreal

I do not appreciate this Intimidate Staravia lowering my Delibird's Attack

Uh huh...

[inland crane]

What is best tier to try new niches fr

[sweet crypt]

Wdym by that

[inland crane]

I got some ideas to try on showdown but what tier should I execute them idk

[sweet crypt]

Depends on how good/bad the idea is

[supple basalt]

What makes me giggle about Pumpkaboo being Mega Diancie is Meowscarada became Gourgeist

[sweet crypt]

And which Pokemon you want to use, too

If you want to use like

Vaporeon or something

Then go to NU

Etc

Heracross is a very scary lead wtf Bugsy

Yeah that outspeeds me

And hurts a ton

I still win though

I love Victory Dance

Alright, so far?

Delibird isn't doing too badly

As long as it can just set up Victory Dance, it can sweep

Slowking is in the Icy Cave

Bro told a joke so bad it froze the entire cave

WHY DOES THIS FUCKER HAVE A SKELEDIRGE

Delibird just ate an Explosion somehow

[sweet crypt]

Why is Candice running HA Abomasnow

[supple basalt]

Isn't that infinitely more terrible than her snow warning one XD

[sweet crypt]

Yes

The rival's theme still has Megalovania

And Rayquaza is a Psyduck

I JUST GOT HIT BY GREEDENT STEALING MY BERRIES INTO KARTANA BOSS

WHAT THE FUCK

IT JUST HIT MY ASS WITH A GUILLOTINE

[cinder iron]

I pick up my Switch 2 Tomorrow, Pokopia soon

[sweet crypt]

2 in a row

3 in a row

What the fuckkkkk

I won somehow

[rugged kestrel]

i rolled a legitimate shiny sandshrew in leafgreen

[simple quartz]

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Human_(not_Pokémon)

Guys I think the Pokopians have caught onto us...

[mighty robin]

when are humans gonna get a buff?

15 BST and weak to every type

[cloud lark]

So with Home getting updated with ZA functionality within 24 hours, any last guesses as to some Mega abilities?

[rugged kestrel]

i think they have atleast 200 BST before you give them tools

[mighty robin]

no, go look at the link

[mighty robin]

15 BST

[rugged kestrel]

i disagree

[mighty robin]

it says 15

[small dirge]

1st try shiny mew

[winged lotus]

Woo!

[winged lotus]

I have that same handheld in that same color, also nice catch

[rugged comet]

<@&306953740651462656>

[tired vortex]

I'm at the pokemon yellow elite four :3 I'm severely under leveled :3 but I'm doing ok so far

My guys are like level 43-44 besides my lvl 50 articuno

[swift quiver]

Anyone here wanna help me decide on my rule in my nuzlocke? I have the rule decided but idk if I should work around it via a technicality

[bronze storm]

I just learned that you can use Honey on a Pokémon’s habitat in Pokopia to bring it there!

[bronze storm]

Which game is this?

[small dirge]

cobbleverse modpack on minecraft

[bronze storm]

Ok.

[spare hare]

i log on my pokemon go to see if i had any shiny for champions

i have an lapras is lapras good on vgc

reg h

[mild dirge]

I think mega heatran got the best new sprite out of the new april fools sprites on showdown

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1488193333993144401/1488980633823875203/image0.gif?ex=69cec0c7&is=69cd6f47&hm=a159e45fd1dec91c7c0c465be9d52eee51aa6bb8980ddc7f37abef3b7126ebb7&

also yes its real

[north vessel]

Alolan Muk seems not to be in Champions day 1

:C

at least unconfirmed, by demo and stuff

[swift quiver]

My nuzlocke might end to a wild encounter atp

If I don't catch this I die

PHEW IT USED QUICK ATTACK NOT THUNDER SHOCK

Holy oran berry clutch

[north vessel]

MAWILE ISN'T??? nah bro it's in Z-A and stuff, it has to be

[swift quiver]

Is Absol?

I don't have the dlc, I'm yet to see Mega Absol Z

I just love absol

[north vessel]

yeah i think it's confirmed

all megas likely will be, but surprisingly many still aren't shown it seems

Mawile, the 3 hoenn starters.

also

xdd

[delicate hollow]

Can all Pokemon get taught Return, Frustration and Rest?

Via TMs?

[sweet crypt]

Not confirmed

It could be, but all Megas being in is unconfirmed as of right now

I should know, because a friend of mine made a Showdown server emulating Champions

And every 10 minutes, someone asks "Where's Mega Salamence?"

[sweet crypt]

Rest should still be in this

Since it was never removed

No reason to assume it is

We have no confirmation on if Return or Frustration will be in Champions

Or any other dexited move for that matter

[tired vortex]

I DID IT I BEAT POKEMON YELLOW

And I was extremely underleveled

[tight granite]

gotta say i really dont get why people complained about Torkoal in Pokopia

[tired vortex]

Y'know normally I use pokemon from only the generation I'm playing so like gen 4 with only gen 4 mons but with gen 2 it's still mostly gen 1 mons and im tempted to use Arcanine...

[sweet crypt]

You probably shouldn't restrict yourself to Gen 2 mons only

A large amount of Gen 2 mons are only in Kanto

Which is postgame

And if you're playing Crystal, then some don't exist at all!

[tired vortex]

Yeahhhh I'm playing crystal

[sweet crypt]

(Looking at you, Mareep)

[tight granite]

yikes

[tired vortex]

Haven't even encountered a hoothoot lmao

[sweet crypt]

The Mareep line is literally unobtainable in Crystal

[tired vortex]

Yuuuup

[sweet crypt]

Like what even is the point of this

[tight granite]

trading

[tired vortex]

Idk gen 2 is weird

[sweet crypt]

But why?

[tired vortex]

Technically gen 2 was barely even meant to exist

[tight granite]

if you want it, buy a game with em

[tired vortex]

So yeah I mean I don't even know of any gen 2 fire mons other than slugma which is in kanto

[sweet crypt]

Houndour

Also in Kanto

And Cyndaquil, who's a starter

[tired vortex]

I thought houdour was gen 4

[sweet crypt]

No, it's Gen 2

[tired vortex]

I picked chikoeita

[tight granite]

good

[tired vortex]

Weird...

[sweet crypt]

You probably thought it was Gen 4 because it's only in Kanto

[tired vortex]

Lmao

[sweet crypt]

So you just never encountered it

[tired vortex]

It's also one of the only gen 4 fire mons

Cuz there's like 4

So yeah Arcanine time

[sweet crypt]

That's a bit low

Did you forget Lopunny and Steelix?

[tired vortex]

w u h

Ah yes my favorite fire type

Steelix

[sweet crypt]

I mean, Flint uses them, so clearly they're Fire types

:)

[tired vortex]

LMAAAAO

Gen 4 is fuckin

Cooked

Genuinely, my second least favorite gen

[tight granite]

soooooo

https://klipy.com/gifs/steve-flint-and-steel

[tired vortex]

OMG

[sweet crypt]

A lot of older gens have somewhat bizarre choices when it comes to which Pokemon are available

[tired vortex]

I should be able to get a wooper by ruins of alph tho still right?

[sweet crypt]

THIS! Is a Crafting Table!

[tired vortex]

Ok should I actually watch the Minecraft movie

Because I wrote it off as a shitty meme movie

[sweet crypt]

Iirc it's mostly just the funny meme movie

[tired vortex]

Ok yeah

[sweet crypt]

And doesn't have much behind it apart from the memes

[tired vortex]

Yeahhhhhh

I don't think I'll ever watch it

Anyways yeah Growlithe yaaaay

I'm not supposed to evolve it until like level 32 right? When it learns flamethrowe

[sweet crypt]

I might replay Pokemon Vanguard since it's gotten quite a few major updates since I last played

[tired vortex]

Vanguard?

[sweet crypt]

Fangame

[sweet crypt]

Level 50

[tired vortex]

I feel like I've heard of it

[sweet crypt]

So uhh

[tired vortex]

50?!?!

[sweet crypt]

You may want to consider gambling for the Flamethrower TM instead

[tired vortex]

Atp I'll just get the TM jeez

Well

Idk if I CAN gamble

Roms tend to fuck up the gambling

I mean uh

My totally legit cartridge ™

Like on a hgss "legit cartridge ™" you usually can't gamble unless it's a really good one cuz it crashes the game

[sweet crypt]

Simply get the coins with help from your pal Axel Repay

[tired vortex]

I...don't know how lol

[sweet crypt]

Uhh

Good luck getting to Level 50!

[tired vortex]

Also with speedup on my special Gameboy from Nintendo it looks like the mini Growlithe sprite is shaking its head no vigourously

[tired vortex]

Pain

[sweet crypt]

Isn't that literally the level of Lance's strongest Dragonite?

[tired vortex]

I should be able to at a chester cheat to do it if I can find one?

[tired vortex]

Maybe

In gen 1 it's like 64

[proper holly]

This team was created randomly, even I didn't know what I was doing. What do you guys think?

[tired vortex]

Nice

[tight granite]

i mean it is that

[tired vortex]

Lol

[tight granite]

it def doesnt try to be a good movie

which eh

alot of the movie doesnt even seem like the writers of it ever played the game

[tired vortex]

I mean yeah

It's a cash grab

[sweet crypt]

Why is there such a massive level gap between Swampert and everyone else

[proper holly]

The thing is, I leveled up using ExpShare, which means you have to keep switching between Pokémon, and each one evolves at a specific level.

I focused on improving them first.

I switched Pokémon a few times, and others only appear in places when you're quite far into the story or in the middle.

Pokémon esmerald the version

[tired vortex]

I was gonna try and get a spinarak but turns out the fucking day night cycle is to real time EVEN WITH SPEEDUP

[bronze storm]

How do I get paper in Pokopia? The thing that gives badges is asking for it.

Were you trying to show me how to get paper?

[frank lily]

Did a little more shiny hunting. Just need Virizion and I’m done with Legends ZA for my Shiny Living Dex

[tired vortex]

Angery. I just reset my crystal save so I could get spinarak and wooper, but now I find out that ONLY IN CRYSTAL Growlithe only spawns during the day. And even with speedup the clock is based in real time. Grrrr

[tight granite]

you already said this

did you forget and then find out again

[tired vortex]

I thought I said just about not being able to find wooper now I'mad that after I switched to night I can't find Growlithe :[

[tight granite]

more about rementioning that speedup doesnt change real time

[tired vortex]

Well yeah but like

I'm moreso just complaining haha

[tired vortex]

I figured out how to use my GameShark! Yay!

So now I get to have all my mom's be shiny if I want :3 and I have my lil growly

[upbeat notch]

why she so ibble

[sweet crypt]

Fun fact: Gourgeist is TAKING TOO LONG

[vital flare]

egh pokerouges april fools is still going on

[cloud lark]

Is that a Zoo Pals paper plate?

[sweet crypt]

I got a fucked up idea

It makes 0 sense

But I do want to add difficulty to Pokerogue because it's a bit too easy

They should make Lysandre use Mega Zygarde, given what we know in ZA

I mean yeah Mega Gyara is more accurate

But consider this: It'd be funny

[sweet crypt]

Uh huh...

It's actually playing the Rogue Mega Evolution theme btw

Anyways I'll rank Delibird at B+

If you can get it to use a single Victory Dance, it can actually do pretty fucking good

Only being weak to stuff like Espeed, Sucker Punch or Bullet Punch

As well as plain bad RNG with Focus Bands

Getting Victory Dance off in the first place on the other hand isn't the easiest

[tired vortex]

Mmmm...pokemon crystal :3 yay gameshark

[verbal tundra]

eternatus

[north vessel]

yeah but it'd be weird if not all megas are, why would 95% of them be but not some random others

they likely will be but it's sad not to know yet

[sweet crypt]

It's closer to like, 60%

[north vessel]

wdym, most of them are

[sweet crypt]

Froslass is confirmed but Glalie is not

Though I assume Glalie is in, it's important to note that Prevos do not exist

Glalie and Froslass are technically now completely unrelated

[sweet crypt]

Other exclusions apart from Mawile, Glalie and Salamence are Pidgeot, the Hoenn Starters, Sharpedo, Camerupt, Medicham, Manectric, Banette, Scolipede, Scrafty, Eelektross, Pyroar, Malamar, Barbaracle, Dragalge, Falinks, Chimecho, Staraptor, Golisopod, Baxcalibur and Legendary Megas (as all Legendaries seem to not be in)

So very much a notable chunk of them

Maybe like 30-40%?

Excluding Legendaries/Mythicals, 77 different Pokemon have 1 or more Mega Evolution

Thus, with 24 excluded Megas, approximately 31% of them are not in the game

I excluded Legendaries and Mythicals to be fair as not a single Legendary or Mythical has been confirmed

If we were to include those 10 Megas, these numbers jump up to 87 Pokemon and 34 absentees

(35 excluded Megas since M2 has 2 Megas but I'm using the number of base Pokemon and not Megas)

This is roughly 39%

[cloud lark]

I'm so scared for the potential reveal of the Mega abilities tomorrow morning

If they actually just give Glimmora Levitate I will be very upset

[sweet crypt]

If Mega Meowstic gets Psychic Surge, I'm celebrating

VGC Players probably won't be but who cares

(Jokes aside it would be a bit of a show of Gamefreak's balancing incompetency I feel)

(Considering they're supposed to be balancing around VGC)

[cloud lark]

Seriously, why do people want this ability on Glimmora so bad?
"Oh, it gets rid of Glimmora's biggest weakness!"
And? What defensive merit does Levitate Glimmora have that warrants sacrificing the item slot and Mega?

It's defenses don't even surpass 110

Mega Aggron is a fraud with a defense of 230

[sweet crypt]

It's still pretty good bulk for an offensive mon tbh

Probably guarantees it'll be taking any non-SE hit

And probably even SE priority moves not named Scizor Bullet Punch

[cloud lark]

if you wanna run offensive Glimmora you just use Power Herb Meteor Beam

[sweet crypt]

Or Palafin Jet Punch

Because yeah both of these are confirmed for Champions

Glimmora is already an offensive mon capable of leveraging its bulk at times

Even though it's more used as a suicide lead

And the speed increase is also nice

But yeah somewhat underwhelming Mega

Seriously though for a Suicide Lead Glimmora isn't actually frail at all

It isn't bulky

But it's certainly not frail

[cloud lark]

Mega Glimmora is basically begging for Merciless if it wants to have a reason to exist cause that at least means it can synergize with Toxic Debris and Mortal Spin

Merciless Venoshock with 150 SpA sounds fun

[sweet crypt]

And if you get around the quad Ground weakness, Rock/Poison is actually a strangely good defensive type

Which is probably the rationale for Levitate

Like I just looked at this, its only other weaknesses are Water, Steel and Psychic

So basically, an actually good type, Scizor and irrelevant

Well Scizor and Iron Crown

[cloud lark]

Too bad Mega Glimmora has barely any means of taking advantage of its good defensive type. It gets barely any good stall options beyond its usual poison stuff and Spiky Shield.

[sweet crypt]

Corrosion Toxic Base Glimmora into Mega trust

Jokes aside, yeah Glimmora's bulk and defensive type is only really used to make it harder to take down offensively

While it uses its own offences to try to tear you down

The speed difference is substantial I feel

Since Glimmora's speed can very often feel like it's just a bit too little

It does speedcreep Volcarona

It isn't that major in the grand scheme of things

As Volcarona is a Quiver Dancer

But it does mean Volcarona can't just come in and revenge kill with Psychic

[cloud lark]

Volcarona runs Psychic?

[sweet crypt]

... is Psychic Volcarona really the most relevant Psychic Move user in Champions Singles?

I think it is

[sweet crypt]

Yes

Somehow, Galarian Slowbro and Slowking are confirmed

But not Galarian Slowking

So Galarian Slowking isn't the most relevant confirmed Psychic move user

There's a 100% chance Mega Alakazam will be banned with Nasty Plot in a Smogon context

And Mega Metagross is a bit sketchy as well

Though if it isn't banned it'd definitely be the more relevant Psychic move user

Oh shit right Mega Delphox

Is Volcarona more relevant than Hatterene?

In Singles I mean

Hatt is obviously the bigger threat in Doubles

[vital flare]

Is pokerogue normal yet?

[sweet crypt]

Just checked, nope

[vital flare]

Sigh

[sweet crypt]

Looking at the event in the Discord, it ends in like, 15 hours and 10 minutes

[vital flare]

3 day April fools? Whyyy

Also I need to join that discord

[sweet crypt]

So that people who want to catch the event don't miss it idk

[vital flare]

What's the point since it doesn't have better shiny odds (I think)

[sweet crypt]

Shits and giggles

But also

Maybe you could start a run

Play up until you get the 2 shiny charms

And then wait for the event to end

So that they don't only work on trainer Pokemon?

Am I cooking here? Idk

[vital flare]

Wait you can get free shiny charms on the event?

[sweet crypt]

Yeah but it only works for the trainers I think

[vital flare]

Works for the trainers? How does that even work

[sweet crypt]

Trainer shiny odds in general this event are just fucked up

And it doesn't feel like the shiny charms have any effect on your own wild Pokemon

So that's why I'm theorising maybe they're just not working this event

And you could maybe

Cheese the system by waiting for the event to end

[vital flare]

Ahh

[sweet crypt]

This is all just hypothetical though

[vital flare]

Meh even if I did it until I got the charms my run would probably be killed off a few tens later

[sweet crypt]

Wow you do not have confidence in your runs do you

[vital flare]

Nope even less with the current starter roster on it

Would have more if I had eevee

[sweet crypt]

Your Pokemon are unchanged

The only difference is their sprites

[vital flare]

I know

But I had recently started with a new account so I don't have much pokemon

[sweet crypt]

I see, I see

[coarse viper]

God this event is trippy

I kinda hate it

[inland crane]

Copy'ed Volo's team (and got better movesets/items for them)

Absolutely sucks slow team made me win once and lose forfeit a couple times

[coarse viper]

You are missing the 2 Giratina's

[sweet crypt]

That would force them to play Ubers with 7 unviable Pokemon

Which sounds twisted

[coarse viper]

That's Why Volo technically has 8 xD

[sweet crypt]

7 unviable Pokemon and 1 good one

Gee what a massive difference

I jest but given it's NDUbers

You'll be facing 6 unviable Pokemon anyways

And since you have a greater amount of unviable Pokemon, you are at an advantage

[sweet crypt]

But yeah the only good mon here is Garchomp lmfao it's joever

[inland crane]

Big V does not have advantage of summoning pokemon or out leveling 🥀

[nocturne river]

I made a rom hack for emerald which randomizes the evolutions and evo methods

spoink evolves into rayquaza at level 17 lmao

[coarse viper]

Ah yes, boink Pig becomes Sky God

[rugged kestrel]

have you guys ever played team rocket edition?

genuinely

best rom hack i ever played

[autumn ibex]

Hello guys, I want to ask you something

Why can't I just use the normal Joiplay for android, is it like not optimized or something like that?

When I played other Pokémon games it's kinda corrupted (I can still play the game, the thing is, the sprites are off)

[vital flare]

Emerald or firered either way yes

[dull crow]

ye

[inland crane]

Will Nihil Light be 200 BP or 240 to make up for Mega Evo plus move effect?

[sweet crypt]

100 BP

Because it was nerfed to 100

And I doubt they'll make it make up for the Plus Move Effect

[dry burrow]

Rate this Tier List

[mild dirge]

dumbest strategy ever

[rare isle]

F. Arceus too low

[sweet crypt]

"Dumbest strategy ever" is this not just a Trick Room team in Doubles

[mild dirge]

its a trick room team to support a choice banded guts ursaluna

[sweet crypt]

Ah

That'd do it

Bro is running the Self-Wisp Sableye or some shit

[mild dirge]

yep

sableye uses willo wisp and gets exploded by earthquake

megumi and mahoraga

[sweet crypt]

That's WILD

[inland crane]

trash

[dry burrow]

why

[inland crane]

every game on D tier is easily over DP

maybe not Lets Go games

[dry burrow]

i dont like switch games

[sweet crypt]

I mean

You're not wrong

Maybe

Idk depends I see a lot of argument over DP vs BDSP

Even though the obvious answer is "They're both ass, play Platinum"

I also have very little respect for GSC

And definitely not as much respect for HGSS as most

Because at the end of the day, HGSS doesn't fix GSC's biggest flaws

[cloud lark]

HGSS has way too wonky of a level curve for me to like it as much as some others do

[sweet crypt]

It does look pretty though

[dry burrow]

that's the only bad thing about hgss

[sweet crypt]

I sure do love a large chunk of the Johto Pokemon being locked to the Safari zone or Postgame

Hey, at least they're not all postgame

[cloud lark]

It's a pretty dang big bad thing

[dry burrow]

also another mention is Black and White Postgame level curve is so unbalanced

[sweet crypt]

cough cough GSC

[dry burrow]

because in BW postgame the trainers are lvl 65+ and your pokemon are lvl 50

[sweet crypt]

I sure do love having 0 Dark types in the region that introduced Dark types before beating the Champion

[sweet crypt]

Typically the level curve before the postgame will be taken into consideration a lot more than the postgame level curve

[inland crane]

overshadowed by Kanto.

[sweet crypt]

I do love how all of the "Johto" Pokemon are actually just Kanto Pokemon

Really, it'd be more accurate to call them Gen 2 Pokemon

[dry burrow]

You can catch a larvitar in the safari zone

[sweet crypt]

Mfw the only Dark type before Postgame competes with 4 other Pokemon

[sweet crypt]

I'm more so dissing GSC with this one

Even though Safari Zone Only is still dogshit

It isn't as bad as the only Dark type before Postgame being Umbreon who competes with Vaporeon, Jolteon, Flareon and Espeon

Unless you're playing Crystal I guess