other-pokemon-games

[unkempt egret]

gen 3 had to rely on a 10% proc chance

or endure but

[sweet crypt]

Which is why I said if Focus Sash was introduced 1 gen earlier

Also

It wouldn't be viable

[unkempt egret]

either way it's still mostly because of the acronym/meme being picked up by people who's only experience with battling is against CPUs

[sweet crypt]

Because I just remembered a certain rock kaiju that's on like

A vast majority of teams

[unkempt egret]

(imo competitive pokemon's awful no matter what the format)

[sweet crypt]

True, Gamefreak is kinda ass at balancing

Actually, do they even balance?

I kinda doubt it at this point

[devout crag]

so i just played a random team, no wonder it sucked

[unkempt egret]

nintendo in general balances with the idea of "broken things are fun" and in a single player context that usually works

(I know pokemon isn't nintendo themselves but it still fits)

[sweet crypt]

Yeah but why make an official competitive format if you're gonna not balance at all

I mean apart from money and fame

[unkempt egret]

I forget I think someone pushed for it in gen 1's developmet

for the money yea

since originally it was going to be just trading

then again pokemon in general is a franchise that min-maxed all of its stat points into marketing rofl

[devout crag]

yall would it be worth to make a team around sword dance toxic orb toxic heal tera normal/water gliscor

[sweet crypt]

When was the first ever Pokemon VGC event

[sweet crypt]

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 36 Def / 228 SpD
Tera Type: Normal
Careful Nature

• Swords Dance
• Facade
• Knock Off
• Protect

TLDR: Yes

[devout crag]

thx gng

[sweet crypt]

Most definitely

Dragonite getting a Mega despite being this strong is kinda nutty

Ain't it also the best Pseudo Legendary in VGC?

At least currently

[devout crag]

yeah ik my goat is an s- rank menace

[sweet crypt]

The only Pseudo Dragonite is comfortably worse than is Bax

It was worse than Dragapult in Gen 8

[devout crag]

no idea its a long while i dont play competitive

[sweet crypt]

And probably will be worse than it in Gen 10

Since it's mainly better rn because of Tera

[devout crag]

wasnt dragonite trash

[sweet crypt]

It was before it got Multiscale

[devout crag]

oh

[sweet crypt]

That changed everything

[devout crag]

nvm then

i can tell why its op

[sweet crypt]

It wasn't even actually trash

It was just competing with Salamence

Who was mostly just better

Mega Mence, Mega Meta and arguably Mega Ttar are better than Dnite though

Mega Ttar has come a long way from when Gen 6 was new

[devout crag]

didnt salamence just become a better dragonite

[sweet crypt]

Back then people thought of it as just worse than base Ttar

[devout crag]

ig

anyways ima go back to my team making session

[sweet crypt]

Saying it became a better Dragonite is misleading

Since it was made better than Dragonite since Gen 3

And Dnite only became better when Multiscale was given to it

[devout crag]

as far has i know he saw very few tournaments in doubles at least

[sweet crypt]

Mega Mence is better than Dnite though, definitely

Dnite does have Extreme Speed which is good and all

[brisk hedge]

But will it be better than mega Dragonite?

[sweet crypt]

But Mega Salamence has something Dragonite doesn't

ACTUAL FUCKING PHYSICAL FLYING STAB

[sweet crypt]

Who knows?

Mega Dnite's stats, type and ability are currently a complete enigma

I have a sneaking suspicion it's gonna get Aerilate too though

And if it does, yeah no I don't see how Mega Mence contends with the power of Aerilate Extreme Speed

[devout crag]

added a second member after "careful" thinking

[sweet crypt]

You should wear Heavy Duty Boots to troll people into thinking you're Magic Guard

Because that'd be hilarious

[devout crag]

bet

[devout crag]

lowkey thick fat snorlax could come in clutch

in the rare case where i see idk kyurem

[devout crag]

i mean it would be funny

magnezone but speed

[devout crag]

i need a last member

nvm

gonna start first match

[devout crag]

heh ig they didnt expect heatran to have lava plume and earth power

[devout crag]

gng is done

[devout crag]

i made him waste over 30 minutes since he killed heatran in 10 turns

he WANTED his win

[brisk hedge]

Can someone explain to me why Magikarp ONLY LEARNS SPLASH in Legends Arceus

[unkempt egret]

Swept

also no explanations, you take it or you leave it

[sweet crypt]

what is this team

P2, Poliwhirl, Tentacruel, Shroomish and Wartortle is actually deranged

[devout crag]

I have no idea

[unkempt egret]

also 6th slot: none.

that feels like something I'd somehow run in IF for some reason

[sweet crypt]

Bro rolled up with their early game playthrough team on Showdown apparently

My main question is how the hell did you manage to get Magnezone killed here

[digital grail]

Today I'm starting a pokemon Platinum game where i can only use non-IF pokemon! that is the:
Staravia line, Kricketune line, Burmy Line, Combee line, Pachirisu, Floatzel line, Cherrim line, Gastrodon line, Chingling line, Bronzong, Chatot, Hippowdon, Drapion line, Crogunk line, Carnivine, Finneon, Snover line, and the Lake Spirits.

I'm also allowing Chimchar, as I want a fire type available and that's the only real choice.

[brisk hedge]

I mean, if you only want to use non IF mons, there are no options, but if you’re making an exception for a fire type, what’s wrong with Rapidash, Flareon, Houndoom and Magmortar

[digital grail]

ig Houndour and Ponyta are possible actually. Magmorter and Flareon are too late to be accessable, though. Gonna go with Houndour because I like it better

Nvm i misread the houndour location. Only Ponyta is available early 😔

[crude prism]

Does anyone happen to know where i can find a good resource for emulation? I’m super tech illiterate when it comes to that and i want to be as safe as possible for both my laptop and my phone

[noble zealot]

Bro thinks he has a chance

[unkempt egret]

if he has poison jab then maybe, but that's a stretch since azumarill might still tank that.

[sweet crypt]

Idk if I were using Play Shart I would not feel safe ever

90% stands for how often it misses

I swear

At least Focus Blast has the audacity to hit like 50% of the time

And actually do good damage doing so

[noble zealot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1157039681054191668/1404977489918558298/caption.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1157039681054191668/1404976815109308436/caption.gif

[unkempt egret]

...oh right speaking of luck I forgot that rando'ing the types means some of the pokestar films are unwinnable now

thankfully Invaders was still winnable so I can at least unlock stuff

or the ones like full metal cop and giant woman that want you to get blown up are probably unchanged

oh

I love how if you botch GW2 because the drifloon OHKO'ed itself then you can still pivot to the strange ending with the rental grimer

[noble zealot]

I think my favourite film to ruin was Invaders 2.

[unkempt egret]

that's the... ferroseed one right

I think I couldn't ruin that one because ferroseed opens with iron defense and became a water type with poison touch

I did botch 4 in that series tho since I legit forgot how you're supposed to do that one

[noble zealot]

It's the one where you have to knock it out with Zap Cannon

[unkempt egret]

o

ROFL well GW 4's impossible since nosepass no longer has sturdy

it would be possible to survive if the prop used teeter dance -> double slap miss -> teeter dance from there... except nosepass rolled no guard of all abilities so even that won't work

ok nevermind that was possible if I don't hit myself in confusion on turn 3 since I can just endure on the one required turn.

...or get the fully-paralyzed proc on that turn and not have to worry from there since that's the only turn that she does use an attack if you botch the opening line

ROFL

glad to see heracross got dark/ice so I can somehow still use aerial ace in FMC1 and still "lose"

[unkempt egret]

whelp

FMC3 went from not possible since sewaddle no longer had chlorophyll to back to possible since it was now fire typed meaning that the sneasels could just blow their ice shards to weaken it and have the final one just sunny day to failure

[unkempt egret]

WHELP

so turns out for everlasting memories 3 you just need to select blizzard on the turn it faints

had the prop faint to recoil damage from flare blitz and the game still counted it as successful despite blizzard never actually happening

sadly neither frillish nor cyrogonal got the dark type (or flash fire) so I couldn't just fish for the secret ending

[umbral egret]

not SwSh but there is one for ScaVi called Scrambled Scarlet

[narrow pine]

Anyone got any good recommendations for a final team member in standard Violet?

[devout crag]

i forgot quagsire had a ground type and locked my dumbass on thunderbolt😔

was thinking about switching gholdengo with corvinight

[smoky gyro]

Lesson learnt, Alluring Voice confusion goes before Stamina

[devout crag]

oof

[toxic sandal]

Im having trouble with ferns gym. I have torracat and slugma, hoothoot, pachirisu, noibat boxed venonat and delibird

[devout crag]

I WON AGAINST A KYUREM TEAM

strange team

[tawdry pendant]

what fan games should i try out??

[devout crag]

super mariomon

[devout crag]

wait what

[unkempt egret]

Pokemon Viva las Vega is another good romhack if you don't mind those (or fakemon)

[unkempt egret]

bit late but maybe another special attacker? that team actually looks solid at the moment but I have scarlet so I forget how violet's endgame goes

[devout crag]

gng know why this happened?

werent flying types immune to ground moves😔

[unkempt egret]

?

maybe you used roost that turn?

[devout crag]

i dont even have roost on gliscor

i had facade sword dance knock off earthquake

[inland crane]

Is my team good

[devout crag]

yeah def

i just hope u can evolve machop

just dont let gible close to a cube of ice

[brisk hedge]

Both Staraptor and Togekiss are Normal/Flying types, so I would replace one of them later on down the line. Machop’s fighting type is also completely redundant since you have Monferno

[devout crag]

with that logic just trow away togekiss

[sweet crypt]

We're you Terastalised?

[devout crag]

no

[sweet crypt]

Did anything use Trick or Gravity?

[devout crag]

nop

[brisk hedge]

Or Smack down or thousand arrows

[sweet crypt]

Actually if you have the replay it'd be nice to send it here

[devout crag]

let me check

no😔

[brisk hedge]

Maybe it was holding a ring target?

[devout crag]

not sure i used knock off on him

[sweet crypt]

OK wait send replay

[devout crag]

i dont have it😔

[sweet crypt]

Then I can't really confirm much

You may just be misremembering what happened

[devout crag]

maybe it just glitched

[sweet crypt]

Because I do not think you can hack Showdown in this way

[devout crag]

i would have serious memory issues since that happened a few hours ago

i did beat a kyurem team tho

[sweet crypt]

Bro really lost a game where one of their Pokemon can OHKO or 2HKO every Pokemon on their opponent's team

[devout crag]

yeah

[sweet crypt]

They just did not get the reads I guess :/

[devout crag]

he used a fire move on vaporeon

didnt even bait it or anything

[sweet crypt]

what

Was bro tryna predict Corv or something

[devout crag]

he clicked fiery flame or whatever its called

[devout crag]

maybe

[sweet crypt]

Iron Moth also just

Literally learns Energy Ball

[devout crag]

shhhhhhhhhhhh

[sweet crypt]

And Discharge

[devout crag]

he forgot we were playing on 1100 elo the thinking is NOT that deep

[sweet crypt]

With the former being a common move on Iron Moth iirc

[devout crag]

pretty sure he had energy ball too

[devout crag]

notice how i didnt lost a single mon too

[sweet crypt]

Wait actually was Kyurem physical or special?

[devout crag]

i think special

[sweet crypt]

OK yeah no I'm not too sure what happened here for them

[devout crag]

nvm

[sweet crypt]

Yeah that's why I need to ask

[devout crag]

hes both

[sweet crypt]

Kyurem can run Specs or Loaded Dice Ddance

[devout crag]

he was running specs

[sweet crypt]

The former just fucks your team sideways

Because Earth Power cooks Heatran and Magnezone

Freeze Dry cooks Gliscor and Vaporeon

Ice Beam probably 2HKOs Corv and Clef

[devout crag]

heatran is mostly a kill or die

the air ballon is there for obvious reasons

[devout crag]

clef actually tanks them quite well

[sweet crypt]

Ice Beam or Freeze Dry?

[devout crag]

freeze dry

[sweet crypt]

Yeah Ice Beam has a lot more BP than Freeze Dry

Freeze Dry's mainly there since it hits Water super effectively

Ddance Kyurem probably sweeps the full team if it's Tera Ground with the exception of Clefable

[devout crag]

yeah i remember my vaporeon almost dying

clefable unironically sweeped a whole team once

[sweet crypt]

Lmao

[devout crag]

i still dont understand how it happened

maybe he was dumb since he decided to dragon dance dragonite when he was at his last pokemon

what did he hope to do

[sweet crypt]

Reverse sweep

Probably was hoping you were Magic Guard

[devout crag]

twice tho

[devout crag]

heh little does he know

[sweet crypt]

Since it's more common than Unaware by a country mile

[devout crag]

i love the trolling with it

also he swept with this evs

my clef became king von for a moment

[devout crag]

lowkey unaware is better most cases

unless the whole team wants me to go on spikes and stealth rock

like with idk moltres roar spam

[sweet crypt]

Magic Guard is capable of having Leftovers healing while still retaining immunity to hazards

And unlike with HDB, this immunity can't be removed

[devout crag]

fair

[sweet crypt]

(Unless your name is Geezing)

(Base Weezing doesn't exist)

[devout crag]

yeah sh

i found like 2 geezing teams

beated one lost to the other

i was thinking about switching gliscors tera from water to normal

for the juicy immunity mostly

[sweet crypt]

Ngl i feel like laddering SV OU again

But at the same time

SV OU kinda sucks

[devout crag]

yeah kinda

playing that rn

[smoky gyro]

Is life orb that important for Deoxys A?

I wonder why Scarf isn't more popular

Speed is Deoxys A's biggest "problem"

"Problem" in quotations cause it's already pretty damn fast

[devout crag]

i suppose

i dont really know competitive i just restarted

[simple quartz]

Why not come to Gen 3 OU man

The past remains

[sweet crypt]

Because then I wait like 5 minutes for every battle

[noble zealot]

Ah. So I guess Gen 4 OU is out, too?

(Oddly enough, Gen 1 OU seems to be more active compared to the others...)

(Possibly because everyone and their grandma knows which Pokémon are the best in that meta...)

[devout crag]

i suppose cobblemon is accurate to the games?

WAIT THEY CAN FIGHT FOR ME?

the confidence while gemini said it

[unkempt egret]

yea I wonder how they'd handle it in cobble

[devout crag]

well would they just like give me both options

last time i checked galarian weezing wasnt in the game

[brisk hedge]

I believe that there’s a Cubone with a black spot on its skull that can evolve into Alolan Marowak in Cobblemon, so I’d think they’d do something similar with Koffing

(Though the true fault lies with Pokémon for not giving regional variants to the entire evolutionary line)

[devout crag]

yeah skill issue game freak

shouldve give him idk a moustache

[toxic sandal]

How the fuck do i get strong enough for Florina gym in reborn? I have two fires and two flying and decent levels and still cant win against her grass team with sand terrain and sand attacks

[devout crag]

u got ur answer for the 2 fire types

also do u use only damaging moves

nothing like yall i fill the corners

[sweet crypt]

The beginning is realising that Cradily is an absolute fucking monster

And that NFE Fire and Flying types won't be doing too much against it when Sand is up

It is easily the most problematic Pokemon on Florinia's team since it completely counters Fire and Flying types while threatening Ice and Bug with SE damage and Poison can't hit it for SE

Its usually awful stats are a lot less of a laughing matter when you're this early into the game

However, it completely lacks Grass STAB

Making Water and Ground types pretty good against it

Well, at the very least, they hit it for Neutral

While avoiding SE damage

Steel and Fighting will hit Cradily for SE damage straight up

As well as previously mentioned Ice and Bug, with the tradeoff of also taking SE damage

Cradily is also heavily effected by the move Taunt

As it completely shuts down Stockpile and Recover

And prevents it from setting Sandstorm up once it ends

It's especially notable that a lot of her Pokemon use Nature Power as an attack

Nature Power calls upon Sand Tomb, a Ground move, in the Desert Field the battle takes place in

However, Nature Power is technically a Status move

And I'm pretty sure Taunt can disable it

You will also need to watch out for Breloom as it has high Attack along with STAB Mach Punch and Spore

[unkempt egret]

"so all and all pretty par for the course on why I stay away from RPG maker fangames"

[sweet crypt]

Fair enough

I like planning shit out on what to do in battles

But not many do

And by planning shit out

I mean looking at what I'm about to fight precisely 1 second before I'm about to fight it

And then cobble together a shitty team that ends up working regardless

I also kinda didn't have a plan for the early game I just ended up putting together a solid enough team to handle the gym while strategising on the fly

[unkempt egret]

reminds me of Vanilla Vega's first gym where what we assume is the intended strat is "catch a togepi (5% encounter) and trade it for a hoothoot then debuff the shuckle down to -6 attack (since growl has more PP than curse) while taking the neutered rollouts and heling as needed)"

and we're mostly guessing that because it has insomnia and the shuckle has a renamed spore ROFL

[sweet crypt]

Ok it isn't that stupid lmao

[unkempt egret]

(viva las vega thankfully replaces the shuckle with something a lot more standard)

[sweet crypt]

That sounds kinda uhh

Absolutely ridiculous

Tf do you mean Spore Shuckle

In Gym 1 no less

[unkempt egret]

yea it's probably the most infamous moment in Vega since it's the very first gym and you have no other options aside from picking the water starter and overgrinding

[sweet crypt]

That'd be if like

Idk

[unkempt egret]

(or I guess picking the fire starter and really overgrinding since it gains a steel type on evo)

[sweet crypt]

Julia (Reborn 1st gym) rolled up with Ice Beam Jolteon or something

[unkempt egret]

hacks in prior to like 2014/2015 had an annoying running gag of always giving Shuckle to the rock gym leaders, currently it feels like Lileep's taken its place among the ones i've seen

[sweet crypt]

Like no

[unkempt egret]

I forget doesn't drayano's HG/SS hack have like solarbeam swablu on fawkner's team

which is a telegraphed move but still

[sweet crypt]

That feels a lot more fair like

That's a 2 turn move

[split yoke]

Hot take: I think Porygon Z should get speed boost, and Porygon slow start.

[round moss]

….i don’t have any pokeballs yet 😀

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/pixel-trombone-playing-musical-instrument-prank-joke-gif-15407543308447681253

[noble zealot]

Ew, disgusting

[indigo fiber]

Would anyone know where to get a safe, working randomizer for emerald?

[narrow pine]

Late, but I rarely have this issue with Fan Games, Always with rom hacks

[quasi dagger]

universal pokemon randomizer works very well for all games and its customizable

[indigo fiber]

Yo fr? Where can I (safely) download that?

[devout crag]

[devout crag]

u could make them urself i think

[devout crag]

projectpokemon i think

[devout crag]

[unique robin]

Anyone knows a gba emulator that has no ads?

[narrow pine]

mGBA, Bizhawk is a multi purpose one, that new Afterplay seems very promising

[unique robin]

Can I download these on mobile?

[narrow pine]

Afterplay you can

I believe Retroarch has made tyhe jump to mobile as well

https://afterplay.io

This says it can be used on mobile

[simple quartz]

Is John GBA filled with ads

[smoky gyro]

Myboy

Has a free version

The only downside is you dont get savestates so you need to save in game

But it doesnt have ads even the free version

[candid spindle]

chat is OwO a good name for an umbreon

[unkempt egret]

your call

[digital grail]

I'm thinking I should teach Return to my Starly. I don't have anything else that could make good use of it afaik. Hippowdon might be able to use it with higher bulk than the majority of my available Pokemon, but it won't hit as hard.

[inland crane]

Swap w for v if you still didn't named yet

Also is the team smooth?
(The egg is a manaphy egg, the one named egg is a Togetic)

[candid spindle]

yea seems pretty good

[devout crag]

i dont approve the removal of staraptor but seems pretty good so far

is may gonna switch on marshtomp? bets are open

[rustic surge]

You pick torchic? Also, POKÉMON IMPERIUMMMM

[digital grail]

Beat Roark with just a staravia! and also heavy abuse of quick attack and like 4 potions, but a win is a win.

[devout crag]

no i picked chimchar

[devout crag]

too late im fighting may

[quasi dagger]

as someone who picked infernape for their imperium save file also, it really falls off after the 4th gym

or 5th

norman is 5

[flint lagoon]

So I decided to check outbreaks in my Pokemon Scarlet game and randomly checked the Pokemon in my boxes

I got a shiny Tauros in my box that has the Joyful Mark

1 in 2800 chance of getting that kind of mark

[digital grail]

Pachirisu :3

Caught ❤️

[tribal onyx]

Hello hello ! I started playing Pokémon hacks and fangames a few months ago, but so far I’ve only played Pokémon Unbound, Tectonik, IF, and Odyssey. I’m looking for hacks or fangames that combine the polish and completeness of Unbound or Tectonik with the kind of innovation found in Odyssey or IF, whether through fakemon, new regional variants, or significantly altered existing Pokémon.

If anyone has recommendations... !

[devout crag]

shouldnt it be better since he gets close combat as a final evo

[devout crag]

well theres super mariomon if u dont mind the new whole region and the new pokemons its a masterpiece

[tribal onyx]

Ooh

I heard about that one

[devout crag]

yeah its really good also new

[tribal onyx]

Yup yup

I might give it a shot later today. Thanks !

[devout crag]

np

SHINY MAREEP

[devout crag]

SHINY ZIGZAGOON

[unkempt egret]

jolly too

[sweet crypt]

The funny thing about Cobblemon is that it feels like shinies can sometimes be spawning like twice per hour

Which is pretty insane

[devout crag]

randomly found bro

[devout crag]

i found them both in like 10 mins between eachother not a single shiny after

also found my goat

[sweet crypt]

I wanna see who can answer this question, which starters have ever had signature moves, and which still do?

[brisk hedge]

The Hoenn starters, Chesnaught and Greninja, the Alola starters, the Galar starters and the Paldea starters all had signature moves at the time of their release. I believe the only ones that DIDN’T stay signature moves were the moves for the Hoenn starters

[sweet crypt]

Starters that had signature moves: Sceptile (Leaf Blade), Blaziken (Blaze Kick), Swampert (Muddy Water), Emboar (Heat Crash), Chesnaught (Spiky Shield, only in XY), Delphox (Mystical Fire, only in XY), Greninja (Water Shuriken, only in XY), Incineroar (Darkest Lariat), Primarina (Sparkling Aria)
Starters that still have signature moves: Decidueye (Spirit Shackle), Rillaboom (Drum Beating), Cinderace (Pyro Ball), Inteleon (Snipe Shot), Hisuian Decidueye (Triple Arrows), Hisuian Typhlosion (Infernal Parade), Hisuian Samurott ( Secret Sword - Thousand Waves Ceaseless Edge), Meowscarada (Flower Trick), Skeledirge (Torch Song), Quaquaval (Aqua Step)

Let me know if I missed anything

Mystical Fire was only given to Mismagius in ORAS in a similar case to Cacturne and Maractus getting Spiky Shield and Accelgor getting Water Shuriken

Heat Crash was only given to other Pokemon in Gen 8

[brisk hedge]

Ah, I completely forgot about the Hisuian starters. I thought heat crash might have been Emboar’s signature move, but wasn’t 100% sure, so I didn’t list it

[sweet crypt]

If it wasn't for Shellder, Samurott would be listed here too

As it is the only other Pokemon that learnt Razor Shell in Gen 5

Yes, including Cloyster

[devout crag]

huh greeninja is the only one it comes to my mind

[sweet crypt]

The funny thing about Heat Crash is that Groudon got it

And in theory, this is a massive buff to Primal Groudon in NatDex formats

With it being the 2nd heaviest Pokemon

And then it proceeds to barely ever be used ever

Because weight based moves are just absolute dogshit in Ubers no matter your weight

252+ Atk Groudon-Primal Heat Crash (60 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Prism Armor Necrozma-Dusk-Mane in Harsh Sunshine: 253-298 (75.5 - 88.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Me when I can't OHKO 0 bulk NDM with a STAB Sun Boosted attack off of 180 Attack

Because it only has 60 fucking BP

252+ Atk Groudon-Primal Precipice Blades vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Prism Armor Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 337-397 (100.5 - 118.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Precipice Blades for comparison

Like you're better off using FIRE PUNCH

Which I quite honestly don't even know 100% if Groudon has

It certainly doesn't use it

Maybe because it's a terrible move idk

[devout crag]

GAMBLING TIME LETS GO

[unkempt egret]

meanwhile low kick/grass knot in ubers (idk not sure)

[devout crag]

wdym that THIS is my gligar

gligars whole thing is being poisoned

wait no mb

its gliscor

still getting a new one tho

found one with adamant nature

[sweet crypt]

Immunity Gligar Evolves into Poison Heal Gliscor

So you may want to go for one

Immunity is the HA though i think

But given how you just accidentally caught an Immunity Gligar I think you'll be fine

That nature is hot garbage though

[brisk hedge]

Unless the game you’re playing is extremely difficult, getting the perfect nature really doesn’t matter

[sweet crypt]

OK but like

Lowering my 2nd best stat to increase my worst stat sounds like an awful idea

Like actually would piss me off so much

[brisk hedge]

Even still, you really don’t have to worry about that in a casual playthrough

[sweet crypt]

It would piss me off enough for me to worry about it

And if someone is catching a wild Pokemon with a Hidden Ability

Something tells me they're in some sort of difficulty hack

Or hard fangame

[brisk hedge]

That’s why I said “unless the game you’re playing is extremely difficult”

[sweet crypt]

With the context of Immunity on Gligar and an IV viewer I feel like the chance that a good nature is needed is very high

[next bluff]

Are there any good romhacks for Black & White 1 or 2?

[sleek jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-shooting-dont-be-a-menace-funny-lmao-gif-6119299

[unkempt egret]

not sure? I think I only have Drayano's stuff and a small hack that replaces the unova dex with the kanto dex for BW1 lol

I am very gen 3 pilled for romhacks

[simple quartz]

This doesn't fit #off-topic so here it goes

[ornate shadow]

What type should I use in monotype in renegade platinum

[supple creek]

What's the context for this meme

[raven plover]

💀 cannot escape this guy lol

[simple quartz]

Starters are called "first partners" officially but like

They've been called starters for a long time before that term suddenly came up

[unkempt egret]

yea when did they start with that let me check

uh apparently the first use of it was in B2/W2 but it was also referring to alder's volcarona so

apparently gen 6 is when they swapped over since they didn't like that "Starter" implied you'd be getting rid of your starter later

(which if you go into competitive battling prior to gen 8's ability patch you probably are)

(incidentally X/Y also uses "starter" at one point to refer to the kalos trio so yea I think X/Y is where they started the swap and OR/AS was where it was the new norm)

going off bulb a lot of this is because the japanese just don't have a specific term for them since most of the starter-specific promos tend to be the english ones (I'm assuming japan just focuses on Pikachu for everything rofl)

[simple quartz]

That's kind of a grim implication

Is all the Charizard glazing because of non-Japanese fans

[unkempt egret]

I can 100% see that being exactly the case considering how Origins (which was more meant for the west) handled mega charizard X

[simple quartz]

If the Pokemon Z beta/build leak were anything to be believed

They might've even gone all the way to Mega Charmander/Bulbasaur

So a Mega Pikachu would've immediately been in the plans as like the selling factor for buying Pokemon Z

[unkempt egret]

why does that make me think of pocket TGC just "they 100% would have given Rowlet an EX if they knew they could get away with that"

[north vessel]

might be because I'm a gen6 lover, but i love the vibes in the ZA so far, you guys seen the demo too?

like most things BESIDES the fonts they used, ngl they don't feel as futuristic or whatever i assume that they wanted to do

they just look a little ugly

[unkempt egret]

I have not seen the demo yet sorry about that

ok after looking at seribii's vid I can kinda see that yea, compared to the ancient (?) feel that hisuii's had they do look kinda normal

which isn't too surprising since isn't one of the NPC's ||one of the team flare admins from XY but reformed, so the game probably isn't too far off from XY chonologically||

[native trench]

pokemon fandom getting pissed over them being called First Partners instead of starters is why its one of the most made fun of fandoms tbh

still nowhere near the toxicity levels of Lion King fandom but its getting close

[unkempt egret]

I feel like I've hard "nowhere near the toxicity levels of X" with at least 5 other fandoms tho rofl

[native trench]

true. i may be biased based on personal experience

i...HOPE no one in the pokemon fandom has gaslit, then stalked, then hacked to get around a block to get more "fodder" for their hate blog

or formed a cult XD

but i dont dive too deep anymore

[sweet crypt]

It's like people complaining Pseudo Legendaries are officially called like

Powerhouse Pokemon

Or something

Tbf that's for the better since it has the exact same definition as sub-legendaries, which is an official term describing multiple legendaries

And I feel like Gamefreak definitely wants to portray those as stronger than the Pseudos

[native trench]

it really is hilari-sad. "The wiki's official term is different than ours?!? DENOUNCE THE WIKI!!1! 🤪 "

Like okay, sure have fun with that

[simple quartz]

I will say

I never heard that term

I've heard of 'first partner' but never the 'powerhouse' one

Seems like a very rarely used term

[native trench]

i havent either but i like it :3

[simple quartz]

Ehhhh I want it to be more corny/funnier

Call 'em Atomic or Hustler

But I do love it yea

[native trench]

dragonborn XD /j

[simple quartz]

Tyranitar and Metagross:

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[sweet crypt]

Ttar learns Dragon Dance, close enough

[shell oak]

So thats my 2nd shiny female fuecoco…

I’m now 2 for 2

[sweet crypt]

Gambling

[shell oak]

Why can’t my torchics be female? Thats the one with 3 gender differences

[sweet crypt]

It is an official term but tbf it was pnly used once

Being used officially 1 time is probably better than being used officially 0 times though

The figures in question btw

Hoodra was likely not given one because there's a grand total of 0 trainers who use it (to my knowledge)

All of these trainers do use the Pokemon they're shown with, though Grimsley and Iris only use Tyranitar and Salamence in their B2W2 Challenge Mode rematches (and for Grimsley, the Battle Tree in Alola)

Also who tf remembers Ryuki lmao

[quiet patrol]

When is fusion hoenn set to release sorry im new

[past cairn]

It's still in developing from what I remember only upto the first or second gym has been made ready sofar

It's a process

Game development takes ages especially when it's one guy

[spare hare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsHSilysdDg

[simple quartz]

Oh they just turned that boy into Akuma damn

[sweet crypt]

I thought this was the Pokemon CC server until I looked at the usernames

[modern oar]

Torchic has a 12.5% chance to be female I believe.

[simple quartz]

Torchic follows the starters' typical gender diff where they're basically 7:1 in gender ratio

[modern oar]

I know that, I was just saying that it didn't have a high chance to be female.

[sweet crypt]

Did they actually just make the starters be male more often than not specifically because of breeding

I feel like that's the only explanation and even then it's a bit of a stupid one

[modern oar]

I don't know, they just are mostly male.

[spare hare]

They are mostly males because of breeding

[sweet crypt]

Yeah that's a stupid reasoning

[spare hare]

They are rare mons

Abole avarage too

For a normal run at least

[sweet crypt]

I was about to point out how average in performance they are in competitive as a group

But yeah for a normal run most of them are above average

[modern oar]

Eevee has the same gender ratio as the starters, and it's meant to be a rare mon.

[sweet crypt]

most

What's the biggest outlier for starters competitively

There's Incin but he's a bit of a fraud in Singles

There's Hamurott but he's a bit of a fraud in Doubles

Rillaboom?

Yeah, probably Rillaboom

[modern oar]

The official competitive format is doubles.

So I only include doubles when I talk about competitive.

[sweet crypt]

Maybe but if I want to say a Pokemon's good competitively I'd rather say it's a Pokemon good in both Singles and Doubles

I'd value something like Kyogre a lot more than something like uhh

Uhhh

Eternatus

Or something

Actually Kyogre's better in Singles too anyways

So like

Idk

Ho-Oh, yeah, Ho-Oh

Ho-Oh's better than Kyogre in Singles

And I think it's worse in Doubles

I think

Maybe

I mean I don't hear anyone mention Ho-Oh in Doubles

[modern oar]

It just doesn't feel right for me to talk about unofficial formats when talking about competitive.

[sweet crypt]

But I also don't hear Kyogre get mentioned for Doubles in Gen 9, only in older gens

[sweet crypt]

Feels weird to not mention Smogon when it was more popular for like

Many multiple years

Also I mainly play Singles too

[modern oar]

I like official formats more than unofficial ones.

[sweet crypt]

So I actually know what the fuck to say on it

It's also so much easier to find resources for Singles than Doubles

So if I don't know something it's a lot easier to just search it up

[modern oar]

I play doubles a lot more than singles.

[sweet crypt]

I also literally cannot play Doubles on cart

Without breaking laws anyways

Because Nintendo decided it's a good idea to restrict Eshop in multiple regions

Thanks, Nintendo!

Go fuck yourself!

I hate Nintendo

[modern oar]

I have no idea what "on cart" means.

[sweet crypt]

Cartridge

Basically if I want to play Doubles it must be on Showdown

Because Nintendo sucks

So I cant get Nintendo Online

[modern oar]

Doubles was introduced in gen 3 by the way.

[sweet crypt]

If Nintendo shuts Showdown down because of Champions the number of people playing Pokemon competitively will plummet

And this is one of the multiple reasons

They aren't stupid enough to do that though

[modern oar]

They're making an official version of showdown is basically what I'm thinking.

[sweet crypt]

Based from what I've seen and heard of it Champions is Showdown but worse

Like you need to fucking buy Pokemon and EVs and shit???

Bro wtf

Thankfully you buy it with in game currency

[modern oar]

Not with IRL money at least.

[sweet crypt]

But that's still so stupid for reasons I don't think I need to explain

There's also an inaccuracy with the EVing from what we've seen

Though it's pretty minor

(You gain 1 extra stat point more than usual)

[modern oar]

It's just one extra point, nothing much.

[sweet crypt]

Yeah it isn't

I just find it hilarious

But the in game currency thing is atrocious

That's my biggest gripe with Champions

Easily

Because presumably you get this currency from winning

But like

How tf do you win if you're facing people who already spent this currency to boost themselves?

If you don't grind your ass off early you're in for hell

So I sure as hell hope you're playing day 1 if you want to play Champions

[modern oar]

You just have to wait to find out what they'll do, because no one knows what system they're going to use for getting the currency.

[sweet crypt]

Also even if the currency is somewhat tolerable no currency is better than currency always

At least for the context of Showdown and Champions

The currency system is just flawed on a fundamental level

[modern oar]

I really couldn't care less about whether they'll have currency or not, I don't like using showdown, and I want to get into competitive Pokemon.

[sweet crypt]

That said I'm interested on if you can overlap stuff like Megas/Zmoves and Dmax/Tera

You can't overlap Megas with Zmoves obviously

Since both require an item slot

But like

Dynamaxed Megas?

Terastalised Megas?

STAB Tera Z Moves?

How would Tera Blast interact with Z Moves?

Would it just be Breakneck Blitz?

A lot of things to think about for that

[modern oar]

You might also not be able to mix gimmicks.

[sweet crypt]

Yeah, that's what I'm used to

Since I play on Showdown

Best you can do is have a Mega and Z Move on the same team, but not on the same mon

Etc

You can't ever have multiple gimmicks on 1 Pokemon

That's why I'm so interested if Champions will allow you to do so

Because that could have major implications for the NatDex formats on Showdown

And ofc major implications for competitive as a whole

Z Moves are already infamous for immense breaking power

As is a Same Type Tera

Combine them both and I doubt anything short of Ferrothorn on a Resist is surviving a hit

Also, imagine trying to land an Ice Beam on Mega Rayquaza

But then it Tera Flyings

So you hit it for Neutral

And it instantly fucking OHKOs you with Dragon Ascent

Mortifying

[vital bramble]

ythink theyre ever gonna make a trick room extender like the weather and screen extenders

[modern oar]

Fun fact, there is a Terrain Extender item that isn't used much.

[vital bramble]

yeah, I think it'd get more use if electric terrain was used by more than like miraidon lmao

they need to make a move that like, sets terrain and does something else. I don't think anybody ever uses moves that just set terrain

[modern oar]

I used a Terrain move on a team I made, but that's because I didn't have an ability to setup terrain.

[unkempt egret]

yea the cost difference between "manual" and "automatic" when it comes to setting most things up is immense when it comes to pokemon

for a fair bit of the gimmicks that just don't get used a fair bit of them are because they don't have abilities that just throw them up automatically when you enter and the ones that are still used anyway (entry hazards in singles prior to gen 9 when we got some attack setters, screens) are very good to justify it

[smoky gyro]

Wait

Question

Does magic guard ignore passive damage from stuff like magma storm too?

Cause if it does that is literally a stall killer entirely

[desert fox]

There's still 1 way to outstall magic guard users: pp

Eventually they'll kill themselves via Struggle

[smoky gyro]

That takes...a LOT of pp

Unless your stall has pressure

[desert fox]

Passive Pressure doubles pp cost. Spite subtracts 4

There's also grudge but undesired to die

[unkempt egret]

yea recoil is not overwritten when it comes from struggle specifically I believe

I think it's like life orb recoil is overwritten if the move also has a secondary effect?

[desert fox]

It's still probably possible to make a combat last forever via enough regen means, but overall it should prevent that

[unkempt egret]

wait no that's sheer force

[smoky gyro]

Isnt it just overriden period

Life orb

[unkempt egret]

after looking it up yea it ignores all recoil except for struggle specifically

[smoky gyro]

Which makes sense

[unkempt egret]

including the "recoil" damage for Mind Blown, steel beam, and Chloroblast

[smoky gyro]

Ignoring struggle recoil would mean literal infinite turns

[unkempt egret]

like what happened in gen 3 with wobbuffet + lefties

which is both the reason why struggle got changed to 1/4 recoil and probably why the series' main competitive format switched over to doubles from gen 3/4 onwards (well, more wobbuffet in general not the soft lock specifically)

[smoky gyro]

It's practically impossible to set up but I kinda wanna see someone use lefties+aqua ring+ingrain+leech seed healing and just use splash to stall pp

[unkempt egret]

sadly with leech seed the only way to do that is either smeargle or baton pass according to serebii

Corsola can get aqua ring + ingrain though but it's also corsola

[smoky gyro]

Oh yeah I forgot they banned baton pass

[desert fox]

Can also use poison heal

Though breloom unfortunately isn't known for tankiness

[unkempt egret]

sadly G-corsola doesn't get either move

also yea BP is one of those things that becomes "you win and lose battles the moment team preview shows up" and they no like things like that

[smoky gyro]

Skill swap magic bounce into t-spikes into toxic heal+lefties

Make it even MORE impractical

[desert fox]

Do all shedinja fusions have 1 hp?

A sturdy shedinja might work, but I can't think of a good way to make it utterly immortal.

[smoky gyro]

Because you just cant

I've played enough balanced hackmons on showdown to knoe that

[desert fox]

Maybe I can teach it a move for preventing poison and the like, then occasionally use recycle to recover a berry that restores pp

[smoky gyro]

Remember mold breaker

Sunsteel strike and moves like that

Weather (sandstorm)

Entry harzards

[desert fox]

Gastro acid too. Any idea how evasion stacks with tangled feet?

[smoky gyro]

I dont even remember what tangled feet does

[desert fox]

Perhaps the solution is immense evasion+ substitute+ healing

High evasion while confused

[smoky gyro]

Shedinja cant sub tho

[desert fox]

I mean another mon substituting

[smoky gyro]

The existence of abilities like mold breaker and moves like sunsteel strike destroy any shedinja antics you can conjure up

[desert fox]

Looks like tangled feet halves enemy move accuracy. Pretty strong

[smoky gyro]

Theres also wonder guard+air balloon+tera electric

Which is why shedinja isnt in gen 9

[desert fox]

Tera electric?

[smoky gyro]

Yea

Electric only weak to ground
Air balloon makes you immune to ground moves until you get hit
Wonder guard makes you unable to be hit by anything that isnt super effective

[modern oar]

Electric only has one weakness, so tera electric with Air Balloon has no weaknesses.

[smoky gyro]

And then you bring a t-tar in and they die to sandstorm in a turn

Lmao

[unkempt egret]

late but in IF shedinja's 1 HP is tied to wonder guard rather than shedinja itself

in pokerogue though I'm not sure?

[smoky gyro]

I love shedinja but its kinda expected that it's so useless

[unkempt egret]

it's very much a matchup fishing pokemon

[smoky gyro]

I mean even then

Youre sacrificing a slot for shedinja

A mon that is so easily countered

[unkempt egret]

yea usually it's used when you need to deal with something you know won't have the tools to counter it

most famously kyogre who can still possibly dedicate an anti-shedinja moveslot to something like toxic

[smoky gyro]

Is primordial sea and desolate land tied to them being on field or them summoning it?

[unkempt egret]

I think being on the field? I could be wrong on that

[smoky gyro]

Like what happens if you have a primal kyogre, a cloud nine mon (like golduck), and a nmmold breaker mon (like tinkaton)

[unkempt egret]

but usually kyogre wants either a choice item or calm mind so fitting toxic in on there can be tricky

[smoky gyro]

Would you get primordial sea, normal rain, or no rain

[unkempt egret]

I think golduck stops it, but tinkaton does nothing to that interaction

[smoky gyro]

Tinkaton mold breaker in theory stops cloud nine no?

Cause it negates all abilities essentially

[unkempt egret]

no since mold breaker only affects abilities that activate when you're attacking/defending rather than something that's affecting the field

[smoky gyro]

Except calyrex riders for some reason

Huh

[unkempt egret]

you could still negate it for tinkaton specifically by running the utility umbrella though but that's a hilariously niche item

[smoky gyro]

No one uses golduck anyways

Its just an interesting scenario to think about

[unkempt egret]

from what I remember smogon only has two uses of it and both are in some strange format to allow synthesis/morning sun/moonlight to ignore sandstorm and heal normally

[devout crag]

hell nah

[unkempt egret]

https://tenor.com/view/veeunus-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-done-gif-24674884

[devout crag]

im out of here

[unkempt egret]

proper reaction to seeing that in the team preview

[devout crag]

guess mine with a gliscor team

[unkempt egret]

meanwhile I'm still editing my mariomon post and I feel like I'm gonna get crap for one of the minibosses ROFL

[devout crag]

lol

[unkempt egret]

turn 1 just being 3 protects and a fake-out and another turn later on being four protects

[devout crag]

[unkempt egret]

(it's ||one of the later battle school challenges since I want the items from it||)

very much a "oh. so anyway..." moment

[devout crag]

while talking to u im fighting ts guys team btw

[unkempt egret]

o

[devout crag]

i lost😔

what

does he know about annihilape

[unkempt egret]

eviolite rage fist perhaps?

unless you're in ubers in which case I dunno

[devout crag]

nop

2 shotted with moonblast

[devout crag]

im in ou

[unkempt egret]

makes sense since annihilape's banned in OU because of, well, a lot of things rofl

(mostly rage fist but)

[devout crag]

he also has leftovers corvinight

why not rockyhelmet

mueheheh

was looking at a random match

prossodire sent dragapult after his drifbloom got ice beamed

what was he thinking

[devout crag]

ma' am, im a minor

[vital flare]

Is the players age specified in reborn tho😅

[sage moss]

Gen 2 is just a mood to play through.

[sweet crypt]

The player is explicitly an adult in Reborn

[simple oxide]

I built this cool arena to do pvp battles in and then the dynamax mons barely fit

[vale flame]

Guess you need to make an arena like in Sword/Shield.

Also, I listened to the Gen 8 Gym Leader theme earlier. I forgot how much it slapped.

[rugged comet]

Wait till you see dynamax wailord, it's annoying to make an arena for it

[tight granite]

just dont dynamx

[rugged comet]

But seeing Mon go big is funny

like wailord you can barely see properly

[tight granite]

ew i hate that its just square

[covert fiber]

||MEGA TALONFLAME||

OMG

AND ||LINK BATTLES||

i was right again

||MEGA furfrou?||

||welp this was unexpected||

maybe you can ||charge the meter without having a mega pokemon in the party...||

||but its weird how they have C+ moves i feel like they're hiding something||

[sweet crypt]

||Looking closely at the trailer, every Pokemon Battle shown has the mega symbol on the bottom right||

||So unless you think the Elemental Monkeys are getting Megas, this means nothing||

[covert fiber]

i noticed

and i saw ||no mega stone either||

so maybe i was wrong after all

[covert fiber]

did i forget to spoiler this

[sweet crypt]

Nop

It is spoilered

[covert fiber]

k good

damn i was really ||rooting for talonflame||

[sweet crypt]

Anyways I can't wait for ||the npcs to steal my kill and kill me too||

[covert fiber]

oh my god

i cant wait to run the 1's in real time with my school friends

[sweet crypt]

||Ngl Mega Elemental Monkeys would be extremely funny though||

[sweet crypt]

||Empoleon, Dhelmise and Vaporeon confirmed for Unite, former 2 are All Rounders and Vaporeon is a Defender||

||Betting on Jolteon being a Speedster and Flareon being an Attacker when they're added because that seems obvious||

||About as obvious as Vaporeon Defender||

||Tbh all 3 of these roles are pretty easy to see coming for these 3 Pokemon||

[sweet crypt]

Absolute Cinema

Ngl I like this guy's channel because they are not afraid to mock people for having stupid ideas

[split yoke]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/q-tGefnGH3M

[devout crag]

lol

[pliant pawn]

Hypothetically, how difficult would it be to make "evolves upon fainting" a mechanic in a pokemon hack/mod?

I had a weird af idea for a run with essentially a Reincarnation gimmick. Where you can only get up to a team of 6, but when they faint (ie. 'die') they're instead randomly changed into another Pokémon after the battle

[devout crag]

install the mod that changes pokemons sizees

[pliant pawn]

And know that evolutions can be randomised which'd kinda simulate that

[devout crag]

and dynamax a huge wailord

[devout crag]

isnt it like me but in game

[sweet crypt]

No, the player character is directly stated to be an adult by the game iirc

So basically don't treat the player character like you, treat it like a character you control

[devout crag]

[sweet crypt]

Well you can treat it like you if you want and headcanon everything into existence but the game is written around the fact that you're an adult

By that I mean the game will acknowledge the player character as an adult multiple times

Also, Cain
Bottom text

[devout crag]

mh

[dark escarp]

Who has Pokémon Scarlet and violet?

Someone anyone

I need help by finding someone that can play with me in a union Circle in Pokémon Scarlet and violet

I’m gonna start tweaking

[sweet crypt]

I have no online

And I can't get it either unless I want to break a law

[vital flare]

so like host with kris deltarune?

[unkempt egret]

I know Unbound has a "faint = de-evolve" gimmick for one gym so it could be possible

but the de-evolves wear off after that battle so not sure

[vital bramble]

Is there a romhack that's just "HGSS but actually cool"

I love those games but boy are they jank

[noble zealot]

Not me having a dream where there's a shiny Kenny in Cobblemon-

[brisk hedge]

What’s a Kenny?

[split yoke]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/F4TiQ3mSwy4

[split yoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jND2UuhhUA

I guess it's an "other pokemon game."

[unkempt egret]

bleh seems like I'm capped at 3/5 max raids a day as far as points go

did find this at least while I was out

[normal dirge]

I had done the arceus fight on my alt save and realized i never finished my original playthrough

Wee bit of trolling

[unkempt egret]

that reminds me of my last run of scarlet where one of my rando'ed mons was ogrepon

surprsied the game doesn't have dialogue if you do that during the teal mask DLC

[smoky gyro]

I really wonder why they don't just make freeze a sp atk variant of burn

Rather than what it is now

[cloud lark]

That's even how it was made to work in Legends Arceus.

It really should be changed to that

[split yoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX3IjK4pfps

[ebon cipher]

For those playing bdsp, how the heck do you get fossils ? I could get a few skull fossils (i play diamond), but I never find anything else and even with that, skull fossiles aren't so common from my humble experience.

Is the spawn rate of fossils rare or is there something I'm missing ? Do i need to finish the main story to find non Sinnoh prehistoric pokemon ? Is there a way to boost the spawn rate ? I didn't really find much help online sadly.

[dark escarp]

Does anyone here have Pokémon Scarlet or violet?

[dark escarp]

Does anyone have Pokémon scarlet or violet?

[covert fiber]

W

[covert fiber]

It defo would

But it sounds really powerful too

[iron cape]

FINALLY, after several years without, I finally recover my 500h playtime save of pokemon omega ruby !!! Because my cartridge don't work anymore

Maybe a bit too much for a first battle since long time

poor magikarp

[sweet crypt]

Alright, ima guess the moves since like 3 of them are very self explanatory

Eruption is obviously Eruption

Ultralaser has to be Hyper Beam

Seisme is Earthquake, I could see moves like Fissure and Magnitude having similar names but EQ has 10 PP and those 2 do not

Lame Pangeene I'm guessing is Precipice Blades as it has 10 PP, is a Ground move and is Groudon's Signature Move

[iron cape]

and you've all right gg

-# that was not the most difficult

[hard plume]

ooooh
this is sick lookin

[viscid pelican]

http://youtube.com/post/Ugkx70g1IJx7Hx4cUOqDOWHDt01ENvNuZZYK?si=IZ5cLfjzoMtHrmQI

So I have a theory and it'll sound dumb; the hole in the fence was made by a Poison type Eeveelution. The hole is too small for a Mega Victreebell / Scolipede, as many people have been speculating or both in general.
Secondly, the splotches of poison, the Pokémon's body could be made of dripping poison and jumps from puddle to puddle, or spits poison to mark territory.
Third and foremost, in Generation 6, Sylveon doesn't have an Eeveelution that it's super effective or weak against not counting Umbreon. And with "supposedly extinct" creatures being found in the real world, they could do that for a supposedly extinct Eeveelution.

[modern oar]

Hmm, interesting theory.

I would be super excited if that theory was true.

[unkempt egret]

my guess its still that it's a new mega but I can see something smaller

my guess is actually ||roserade|| but not sure since I haven't seen the leaks

[viscid pelican]

Also, the "viewer discretion advised" could be a ploy for something really cute but idk

[noble snow]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9doublesuu-2424430676

I'm a mastermind

[sleek jewel]

Looks so weird

[analog timber]

looks like a certain Gen 9 Pokémon with a Feraligatr head

[sleek jewel]

Skeledirge

[analog timber]

Skelegatr

[sleek jewel]

How did you know the pokemons bost was from gen 9?

[unkempt egret]

probably since it was based off Dirge's artwork

[hard plume]

excellent theory!

[hard plume]

where?

[analog timber]

See BlueEnderFlame's attatchment

[hard plume]

ah ok yeah it's just a feralgatr with a skeledirge body

nvm

for a sec I thought you were talking about the recent teaser

[analog timber]

no

[narrow pine]

[delicate hollow]

Is there a no drayano hg ss hack aka johto ds remake with 493 pokemon all catch able and without high difficulty?

I meant non drayano hack of hg ss

[inland crane]

Don't get too high hopes

Bet just an side animation around a ghost type

Or Zygarde

Marshadow wouldn't be bad

[sage estuary]

welp anyone with Violet that can trade Iron Boulder and Crown for my Gouging Fire and Raging Bolt?
also needing Irone Leaves and Walking Wake as I didnt catch the events ;-; so if anyone has spares it would be welcome, we can see if I have anything u want for them

[unkempt egret]

I don't have a spare of it but I can help with Walking Wake if nobody else can help with more

[sage estuary]

if u dont want it I will gladly take it XD

[unkempt egret]

I'd rather keep it was more doing it for the dex entry touch-trade

[sage estuary]

oky, thats fine too, but I do want it for my home dex so it may take a bit but I'll give it back ;3

[sage moss]

So is that champions game basically going to be a new stadium, battle revolution type of game but they’re going to use it for the competitive scene

[radiant leaf]

More like an official version of showdown I think

[native trench]

oh god not the allfours crusaders again

[unkempt egret]

I somehow read that as "alligator crusaders" ROFL

[noble zealot]

Wut...

[unkempt egret]

wiki vandals in a shellnut

[native trench]

fair, considering the above post was about gator pokemon

lol

[pine ingot]

My young dumbass once thought Luvdisc was a sausage back in Gen 3

[brisk hedge]

You should really look up a picture of a sausage at some point. Cause if you did, you’d really that Luvdisc looks nothing like a sausage

[light coyote]

looks like a bean

[terse pollen]

Definitely more of a bean

[sweet crypt]

Idk looks like an anatomically inaccurate heart to me

[sweet crypt]

I feel like from a competitive Pokemon balancing viewpoint the only order you can give to the generation gimmicks is like Mega>Z Moves>Tera>>Dynamax

[uncut oracle]

i got the minecraft tyranitar

[viscid pelican]

So remember my Eeveelution theory for the upcoming Z-A teaser I wrote? It's now invalid

[digital dagger]

whats wrong with it?

[viscid pelican]

Apparently, the Pokémon Asia YouTube channel has the video as "upcoming" and literally SPOILED what's in the video

I'm not saying what though

[digital dagger]

right. so they told everyone what was happening?

like who made the hole?

[viscid pelican]

Yep, in the description of the video they flat out say what it is

[digital dagger]

were you close at least?

[viscid pelican]

NO

I'd say more, but I don't want to spoil anything, but it's not an Eeveelution

[digital dagger]

man. i was hoping as soon as i read your comments on it

[viscid pelican]

I had a solid theory going at least

[digital dagger]

yeah you did. it had a few holes but it looked good from just a normal persons (me) view

[viscid pelican]

I at least got something out of it technically, but I'm butthurt it's not an Eeveelution

[digital dagger]

same

[viscid pelican]

Oh trust me, people are just as upset in the comments it was leaked

[digital dagger]

yeah. just went through. i couldnt understand one thing they were saying

no idea what made the hole

[unkempt egret]

I was gonna say the name ||probably confirms victreebel especially since I remembered it is in the kalos dex||

mostly since I'm not usually on those routes for ||weepinbel, I'm there for Goomy, Carnivine, and Stunfisk lol||

[native trench]

prepares to defend whatever it is

[west gale]

Mega Victreebell

🤮

[native trench]

Ok it's my new baby now

Also that should be spoiler tagged

[sweet crypt]

(Leaks) ||Mega Victreebel matches what the leaks said it would look like extremely closely, like with Mega Dnite, so this list will likely be all the Megas (with the exception of Zeraora whose appearance was not leaked by the 2nd party that confirmed the others)||

||However, I have a crack theory||

||With all these sources disagreeing on if Mega Zeraora exists, its in some kind of superposition where until the game releases, it simultaneously does and doesn't exist... kinda like schrondinger's cat||

||Mega Zeraora exists and is based on the concept of Schrodinger's Cat.||

[native trench]

Preemptively adopting all of them

Lol

[west gale]

|| https://youtu.be/NyfDz36JkkU?si=IK1wtVWPZOBsE9OT ||

|| https://youtu.be/f79j5pSboEQ?si=ovhinYzRCSJvRl4R ||

[native trench]

Again, spoiler tags I think are needed

[native trench]

Forgot this one

[west gale]

Lmao, completely forgot how to add spoiler to pics 😂

[cold crane]

Dear god wtf is this mega

[sweet crypt]

||Fat fuck mega||

[native trench]

Art 🎨

[sweet crypt]

||Up to you to decide if I meant that in a positive or negative way||

[native trench]

||I shall call him Petey||

[unkempt egret]

someone in another chat commented that ||it looked a bit like a triffid and then started thinking about a possible pokemon game in that direction||

[cold crane]

||i was literally just thinking this||

[native trench]

Or if it's a girl, I'd name her whatever the equivalent name is

[cloud lark]

|| I want everyone to apologize to Mega Dragonite right now because it can always be worse||

[native trench]

As predicted here they come

[cold crane]

I really wanna see ||mega barbaracle|| already

[native trench]

Gonna draw the new mega getting hugs 🤗🤗

[brisk hedge]

My thoughts on the new mega: ||for the love of Arceus, PLEASE give a mega to a Pokémon from literally ANY GENERATION OTHER THAN 1!!!!!!!||

[inland crane]

And especially not Pikachu, Eevee or Slowpoke

Anyways Platimum team after catching Giratina:

[brisk hedge]

They won't give megas to not fully evolved Pokémon. As for their evos, Raichu shouldn't, since it already got an Alola form in Gen 7, I doubt they'd give megas to the eeveelutions, since if you give a mega to one of them, you'd have to give one to all of them, and I don't think they'd want to do that, and I'd be fine with Slowking getting one, since Slowbro already has one, but it's not on the top of my list, especially since it already got a Galarien form in Gen 8

[vital bramble]

||I actually like fat fuck victreebell I think he's whimsical||

[inland crane]

||I want a Persian mega evolution tbh||

[vital bramble]

Centro's already got all the megas

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-how-about-no-austin-powers-gif-17640212

[simple quartz]

||If this leak is certifiable and legit holy cannoli man Typhlosion is snubbed||

Unless they already have ||Mega Typhlosion shown somewhere and I forgor||

[brisk hedge]

||The Meowth line already got 2 regional varients AND a G-max form. Even if it wasn't a Gen 1 Pokémon, it absolutely DOES NOT need anymore special treatment.||

[vague spoke]

|| I think they excluded him because of Hisuian Form ||

|| so that every starter has two form and Charizard ||

[hard plume]

not gonna lie
||he looks like a very happy goober||

[native trench]

I'd like to see some ||Paldea megas||. Or ||Arcanine||

[hard plume]

||big ol goober full of acidic soop||

[native trench]

I won't whine if I don't see them either though :3

Life's too short to be mad at fiction creatures designs

[hard plume]

||Really does exemplify the concept of mega evolution being unlocked when the bond between trainer and pokemon is at its strongest||

||it's full of love!||

[native trench]

Yes!!

[inland crane]

||Can we ever get a mega for a regional form||

[hard plume]

||god he looks adorable||

[hard plume]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-possibly-perhaps-gif-14588906

[native trench]

Heh that'd be cool today

Too*

[hard plume]

||holy shit I know exactly what to nickname him||

[unkempt egret]

I have seen someone complaining but I do 100% agree since their comment was that ||it resembles the old "fat chief of the cannibal tribe" stereotype (not helped by its concept being that it just pukes everywhere)||

[hard plume]

||CAPTAIN FATF-CK||
||named after the nickname of the steeler Ben Roethlisburger given by urinatingtree||

[unkempt egret]

which that might be playing devil's advocate but ||given that japan I assume to be okay with that stuff I can see it||

[modern oar]

||I don't like its design||

[hard plume]

||......that's a stereotype?||

[unkempt egret]

a trope I guess but

[hard plume]

I never heard of it before

[native trench]

I mean I don't see it lol

Didn't mean to send that

[cloud lark]

I personally don't mind ||Megas with a joke element, such as Mega Slowbro.|| My problem with ||Mega Victreebel is that nothing about it was really played for comedy prior to its Mega becoming a water balloon. It was played completely straight and even had some scary elements to it, now it's a punchline.||

[native trench]

Uh oh

[cloud lark]

|| it would be like Sephiroth dying by slipping on a banana peel||

[west gale]

Yea, remembered old cartoons such as popeye using those er... stereotype/tropes

[native trench]

stares in vanilla Jynx

[cloud lark]

Also the Passimian anime episode

[west gale]

Official Mega Victreebell description

|| Its body has swollen as a result of Mega Evolution. Even the leaves on top of its head have grown bigger.

It flaps the leaves on its sides and moves its large body by bouncing around.

It opens its large mouth to let loose a Sludge Bomb. It looks more like a Victreebel when it has deflated.

It has so much acid that even closing its mouth tight isn’t enough to hold it in, so it contains the acid by wrapping its own vines around its throat. ||

|| So it have to become an M or else it keeps on puking stomach acid everywhere huh… I think I’m gonna names it M then ||

[hard plume]

||An M?||

[cloud lark]

|| Genuinely worried that if the leak is true and we do get a Mega Scrafty it will focus less on being a punk and more on LOL ITS PANTS KEEP FALLING DOWN||

[unkempt egret]

||another thing I can 100% see if they're going for a "humor" focus since it feels like japan loves their childish slapstick||

[dull tusk]

have yall seen mega victorybell

[unkempt egret]

||also this is a kids series so it does fit perfectly well||

[simple quartz]

I wasn't gonna mention it but yeah ||it's really giving fat tribe chief stereotype||

Honestly it's exactly why I don't enjoy ||Mega Victreebel|| as much as I should've

[cloud lark]

|| Even without reading that much into it, it's just too goofy for a Pokemon that was previously played straight for me to be okay with. This is the kind of Mega that would fit a goober like Swalot more than Victreebel||

[hard plume]

||ah, ah. but you are mistaken
victreebell has always been goober||

[unkempt egret]

then again ||I have also seen it compared to an asian type of gourd used to house alcohol so it could also be a Jynx situation||

[hard plume]

||The wonderful world of lost in translation||

[unkempt egret]

||where something intended to be a reference to local culture ends up getting far worse interpretations without that reference||

[native trench]

I think it wasn't bad intentioned at all, but you know how they like to fish for reasons to "legitimately" hate on it 🤪

Nah but like if anyone out there actually deserves cyberbullying it's bandwagon haters haha

Or anyone that says "I don't like it so no one else is allowed to"

To be clear "I don't like it" is fine. It's the insinuation that anyone who disagrees is stupid or something

That's the issue

[unkempt egret]

yea no they weren't like that with it

[hard plume]

||this what I was referencing with the nickname btw:||

[native trench]

Yeah I'm still staying off of X lol

[unkempt egret]

I wasn't looking at X/Bluesky that was in another discord

(don't have X twitter anymore and my bluesky is pretty much just down to artists at this point lol)