other-pokemon-games

[unkempt egret]

also I found the other photo club one I was thinking of

[raven bison]

I was thinking to play this that's mariomon right, I'm thinking to play pokemon evolved first.

[unkempt egret]

I still need to finish evolved and yep

[raven bison]

How do you get more than one pokemon? Let me try it again later if I go there. That's funny.

[unkempt egret]

also between that and another hack playing kanto without the IF changes feels a bit strange lol

[unkempt egret]

that is still one pokemon, those are just the prop diglett stickers they give you at one point I recall

[raven bison]

True.

[raven bison]

Ahh that's why I'm confused, ok thanks.

[unkempt egret]

also I'm glad 1.4 in mariomon kept the thing where ||shy guy|| gives no EVs at all

makes midgame/lategame EV training more consistent if slower

[raven bison]

I'm going to use Pikachu this run, I never get the chance to use pikachu signature z move. Damn Pikachu have 3 different signature z move depending on which pikachu.

[unkempt egret]

I could see that. one of my runs of a really old hack is using a light ball pikachu and it's doing alright.

...though I still need to fix an incorrect script causing a softlock at some point today

[raven bison]

Normal, Kalos Pikachu, & Pikachu with a hat have different kind of signature move.

[raven bison]

I don't play it yet, I'll make sure to keep that in mind when I play. That's cool.

[unkempt egret]

yea that's (thankfully or otherwise) the only capture with that quirk

I know you can disable your own EV gains at the start if you want though as an option

I didn't check if 1.4.2 enabled any of the options that weren't available in 1.3 but I know that one was available (as was disabling them on enemies which I greatly appreciate lol)

[humble crater]

Omega ruby my beloved

[raven bison]

I'm assuming you need that to breed & get pichu with volt tackle?.

[unkempt egret]

I believe so but it should still give pikachu the stat boost in gen 3?

[raven bison]

My favourite pokemon series on 3ds.

[humble crater]

My game got corrupted 5 minutes after I got a shiny spinda

[raven bison]

Yeah iirc.

[raven bison]

How does that happen, damn I never got shiny on oras.

[unkempt egret]

rip

[raven bison]

I got shiny on ultra sun once iirc, it's mudbray, the color isn't that much different.

[unkempt egret]

I think I've gotten a few but mostly like oddishes and whatnot

[distant drift]

What’s are some fools Roms that are like infinite fusion that I can try out?

[humble crater]

It took a while lmao

[raven bison]

You're looking for pokemon rom hack or fan game?. Infinite fusion is fan game. If you're asking about rom hack I didn't play romhack much.

[distant drift]

Oh ok

[unkempt egret]

Alte Red is probably the most IF-adjacent one I've played but it also has a brutal difficulty spike after its 8th gym

[distant drift]

Should I try fused dimensions?

[raven bison]

Never heard of it, if you think it's good then try it.

[distant drift]

[raven bison]

What's that I'm assuming romhack? I didn't play romhack much cause many of them are too difficult for me. I might want to try it now because I'm used to pokemon mechanic unlike before.

[distant drift]

Is it on kbh games?

[unkempt egret]

yea alte red is mostly fine up until post-gym 8 and I'm not sure

[raven bison]

Have you heard of Pokemon awakening? It's fan game, I heard it's already completed.

[distant drift]

[raven bison]

It's pokemon game but with fire emblem mechanic I think. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

[distant drift]

I’m try it

[raven bison]

Good luck, it's easy to find. On another note I'm going to continue my run. I'm going to the next trial.

[distant drift]

Wait I have a idea

What if I try emerald rogue

[raven bison]

Try it if you like it, also I have fan game recommendation for you, it's slowpoke shack. I like the story & You only need like 8 hours to finish the game. You definitely want to try that out.

Buying fresh water/lemonade from vending machine takes too long. Is there a way to buy it in bulk on ultra moon?, let me look it up rq.

I guess I can't, but I can buy Moomoo milk in bulk later.

My team right now.

[smoky gyro]

Does anyone know how garunteed triple IVs work

As in, does the game generate all 6 IVs first and then replace 3, or does it randomly assign the 3 garunteed IVs and then roll the rest

[unkempt egret]

I'm not sure? I do know that either OR/AS or S/M made it no longer apply to baby mons though

[distant drift]

Screw the emerald rogue run I finna restart legends arceus

[raven bison]

This guy sells light screen & reflect, this is always my go to strategy on infinite fusion because I like to have glass canon pokemon. I might consider to buy this if I find some light clay.

I don't think I need to do that ultra moon isn't that hard anyway.

I need to find some wimpod, I don't have the chance to try it out before because I don't like the ability. Now I wanted to try it out.

Earliest I can find it is route 8, let me look it up which island is route 8.

[sweet crypt]

The funny thing is that USUM are considered as one of if not the hardest games in a nuzlocke

[raven bison]

Wait really? How? I never watch nuzloke for reference.

I've done couple of ultra moon/sun run, but I never play nuzloke.

[sweet crypt]

Quite a few factors, though I myself am not a nuzlocker so my explanations wouldn't be great

AFAIK, part of it is the totem battles being 2v1s

That also have a random stat boost/random stat boosts

The E4 are also one of the only E4s to have EVs

Ultra Necrozma also exists and it obviously can be tough depending on encounters and deaths

[raven bison]

That's crazy man, Is there someone that already beat ultra moon/sun with nuzlocke challenge? Have you try nuzlocke on ultra moon as well?.

My friends is the one who like this type of stuff(nuzlocke).

It's too hard for me.

[sweet crypt]

Yes, every official mainline Pokemon game has been nuzlocked

If people are capable of nuzlocking shit like Emerald Kaizo and Run And Bun they're gonna be capable of nuzlocking USUM

[raven bison]

Do you have any channel you can recommend to me for this type of stuff? I'm interested in how nuzlocke challenges work.

[sweet crypt]

Idk lol

[unkempt egret]

man I'm sad I missed this but

latios said it best, but to add some stuff: the enemy EV's is a massive thing that is shared with both S/M and to a (mostly lesser) extent BDSP

[supple basalt]

USUM is not as easy as X/Y and S/M but it's pretty damn easy lol

[unkempt egret]

(gens 8 and 9 also technically have enemy EV's but gen 8 only uses it to bulk up defenses on two mons in the maingame and gen 9 only has it buffing up the HP on any mon that tera's)

X/Y in particular is strange.

[supple basalt]

None of the 3D games are difficult except maybe PLA

[sweet crypt]

Idk, I'm saying what the pro nuzlockers say

[unkempt egret]

because it's difficulty is the complete opposite of how every other pokemon game works

[sweet crypt]

And generally I see USUM in the S tier of difficulty tierlists

[unkempt egret]

since in X/Y almost all of the most dangerous threats are just the random common trainers on the routes while the actual boss fights aren't too tricky to work around

[supple basalt]

USUM is one of the more difficult ones, but I guarantee you it wouldn't be there if Ultra Necrozma wasn't a run-ender

[sweet crypt]

Ofc this is purely from a nuzlocke perspective because when it comes to casually playing they're all easy lmaoooo

[unkempt egret]

so how difficult that game can be depends on how many of the common trainers with really dangerous stuff you end up fighting

[supple basalt]

Ultra Necrozma is the only thing that makes USUM high on the difficulty list lol

[unkempt egret]

I wouldn't say it's the only thing since there are a few cheese strats you can use on it, one of which only requires you to have an alolan raticate which ultra moon gives for free

well, the raticate and a focus sash which admittadley is a bit of a slot machine to aquire lol

[sweet crypt]

Mmmm EVs

[supple basalt]

Oh i know. I've watched pros Nuzlocke USUM and have to use cheese strats if they didn't want their run to be ended. I still think if it wasn't there, USUM would be down with SM

[sweet crypt]

Bottom text

Tasty

[unkempt egret]

yea it would be on par with SM without that

[sweet crypt]

I love free stats

[unkempt egret]

US/UM has trickier opponents but also gives you more options to fight back with (both in mons and movesets) so it generally balances out

[supple basalt]

Wasn't USUM the end of the era where rivals just made you battle without asking "Yo do you need to heal first"?

I know Lily would heal you after battles but I remember Gladion and Hau being like BATTLE ME

[unkempt egret]

I forget myself but I know BW1 in particular was infamous for how many times you get rival ambush'ed in that game

[supple basalt]

TRUTH

[unkempt egret]

since you have two of em there and both are relentless

[supple basalt]

What's worse? The ROMHacks Blazblack and Voltwhite (and their sequel)

Your starter has its base ability and the rivals have the HAs.

[unkempt egret]

oh yea fangames are another can of worms entirley

[sweet crypt]

Tbf, nobody cares if Samurott has Shell Armour

[supple basalt]

Imagine be being TF- when Snivy had Contrary

[unkempt egret]

though some of them can still be fun to run if you're aware of what sucker-punches the game has in store like Viva las Vega and Mariomon

[sweet crypt]

That's a trash-ass ability

Mmm yes immunity to crits

[supple basalt]

I chose Oshawott in as my starter in that game. Didn't realize I'd give Cheren a contrary snivy

[unkempt egret]

I mean I'd still take shell armor in a nuz context over torrent as the extra insurance, especially in a gen where crits still deal 2x damage

[sweet crypt]

Yknow the one in 16 phenomenon

Outside of nuzlockes it's worthless

[supple basalt]

What does Shell Armor do again

[unkempt egret]

blocks critical hits (battle armor does the same)

[sweet crypt]

At the same time Torrent outside of nuzlockes also is worthless ain't nobody setting up their pokemon at 33% HP

[raven bison]

Damn I forgot there's so many side quests in ultra moon, I love it.

[unkempt egret]

I'd say torrent outside of speedruns is also worthless since that's where I generally see the Pinch abilities getting the most uses

and even then mostly for earlygame stuff

[supple basalt]

Oh yeah that can be useful. Wish I would have had it against gym 1 actually cause. Aforementioned ROMHacks make you triple battle the gym leader

[sweet crypt]

Idk I could see someone needing damage and predamaging their starter to get said damage

[unkempt egret]

yeaaa

maybe

[supple basalt]

I lost to him multiple times

[sweet crypt]

Anyways nobody thinks about these 2 in either casual play or Competitive Singles/Doubles

[supple basalt]

I hadn't played it in so long I wasn't expecting the tri battle XD

[sweet crypt]

At least not in current gen

[supple basalt]

Samurott isn't fast enough to take advantage of torrent I thought checks bst

[sweet crypt]

Especially when they're giving starters stuff like Protean, Moxie, Grassy Surge, Unaware, Contrary etc

Sharpness

[supple basalt]

It is definitely not fast enough to take advantage of torrent

70 base speed hurts

[sweet crypt]

Yeah in Samurott's case it's kinda just cheeks

[unkempt egret]

the 65-95 speed stat hell

too fast for trick room but not fast enough for its speed stat to be relevant

[sweet crypt]

Couldn't they have given it like

Intimidate

The dex loves to talk about how intimidating it is

[supple basalt]

Yeah XD And most of them have no defense. I thought Absol and Lycanroc had more speed. Didn't know their actual BST

[sweet crypt]

Tbf Midday and Dusk have pretty good speed stats

Just don't look at Midnight

[supple basalt]

Meowscarada though. Chef's kiss

[supple basalt]

Oh? Lemme look those are the only two I use

OH THEY'RE ABOVE 100

I take it back

[sweet crypt]

Fastest Protean user W

[supple basalt]

I got lucky to get a protean sprigatito from wondertrade.

I was so happy

*Surprise trade

[sweet crypt]

Fraudinja? Cinderamateur? Nah get these frauds outta here

I'm going insane

[supple basalt]

Meowscarada makes the trio of protean/libero starters LOL

Imagine a legends game where those were the three starters lol

[sweet crypt]

Jokes aside I do like all 3 of the Protean starters

[raven bison]

Anyone know what's the most effective way to level up my team? other than battling wild pokemon?.

[sweet crypt]

Meowscarada is probably my favourite starter OAT

Peak starter you cannot change my mind

In fact Gen 9 starters are all peak

Gamefreak was cooking with these

[supple basalt]

Same. Even with Pyro Ball being not 100% accurate Cinderace is a good mon
Greninja also isn't bad, I've never used him but he looked fun

..........Meowscarada is my fav of the 3. It has high attack, higher speed than attack, and a signature move that always crits and always hits

[sweet crypt]

There's also the part where it has a peak design

And is also a cat

Cat=good

It's irrefutable fact

[supple basalt]

I love Meowscarada's design. If I had to choose between the two cats that didn't stay on all fours, Meowscarada is infinitely better

[sweet crypt]

But as I was saying earlier, the Paldea starters are peak

[supple basalt]

I hate Inceniroar's design sorry dark cat fans

[sweet crypt]

Unironically may be my top 3 favourite starters

I do not care what y'all say about Quaquaval

That mf is the water starter GOAT

[supple basalt]

I love the Paldea starters too, except Quaxly. It's not bad I just really don't like Donald turning into its final evolution LOL

[sweet crypt]

The only starter I've considered putting above it that isn't from Gen 9 is Serperior

[supple basalt]

I used Serperior as my first starter for G5. People always talk shit on it but I love it <3

[sweet crypt]

Anyways also gonna give a shoutout to the other S tier starters for me, they're H-Samurott and Primarina in that order

[supple basalt]

Besides considering Snivy looks like Excalibur from Soul Eater painted himself, I can't hate Snivy at all

I'm legally obligated to love Snivy

[sweet crypt]

See, H-Samurott is like Samurott but it looks cooler, has a way cooler signature move in how it looks, sounds and works, and also doesn't lose aura from being dogshit

[supple basalt]

Everyone said Popplio was gonna be the dumbest worst starter

Gamefreak said "Let me correct you"

[sweet crypt]

I fucking LOVE Secret Sword - Thousand Waves

[supple basalt]

I love Primarina so much. It mimics a Siren

Yeah H-Samurott is really good

[raven bison]

Just got myself Pikachu shirt & hat.

[supple basalt]

And its signature move setting up spikes? It's no flower trick but that's really good

[sweet crypt]

This JP name is still so silly to me

[supple basalt]

Ngl I never used those lol. USUM just had a bunch of better clothing

[sweet crypt]

They should've had Triple Arrows as like
"Nature's Madness - Thousand Arrows"
Or something fucking stupid like that

Infernal Parade can be "Sacred Fire - Astral Barrage" or something idk

Like it's just so fucking stupid and I love it for being stupid

[supple basalt]

Guys I need help. Should I replace Psycho Cut or Leaf Blade for good Absol Coverage? In this romhack Absol has been changed to a dual type Dark/Fairy. I need Night Slash for stab-dark (Moon Slash is stab-fairy)

And anyone asking what those moves are, Moon Slash and Sparkly Wind are custom moves in the romhack

[raven bison]

I won't use it either, I just like to do side quests.

[supple basalt]

Valid lol

[sweet crypt]

I'd replace Psycho Cut personally

I assume Sparkly Wind is a room targeting move?

Kinda gives room targeting vibes

[supple basalt]

Yeah it's a fairy type ominous wind/silver wind

[supple basalt]

Yeah that's the one I ended up replacing

[void wind]

look what I just pulled chat🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[unkempt egret]

niiice I should probably swap over to lunala at this point lol

after I got burned by getting two shiny blastoise EX's I haven't opened any packs and I already have most of the more notable cards from solagaleo's

could also continue opening triumphant light and try to get the two leafeon EX alt arts

[radiant leaf]

This card is my arch-nemesis

(I play Pach ex)

And I got this just now, I need a base art.

[brisk hedge]

MY BOI

[hard mesa]

I switch between solgaleo and lunala every other pack

[unkempt egret]

I can see doing that

[unkempt egret]

rofl I can see that

I only have one pachi and one pikachu EX (ok not anymore) so I just run both in my normal electric deck

[river finch]

Is mystery dungeon peak?

[unkempt egret]

nice job

[pastel void]

But red I got it from another language

[split flint]

Whats the rom??

[supple basalt]

Explorers of Alpha

[smoky gyro]

Bro killed himself lmao

[raven bison]

Alright I just got stoutland.

[pliant rampart]

does anyone know any Pokemon fan games based around being a Pokemon performer?
my younger cousin was asking if i knew any

[peak flume]

Depends. Explorers of Time/Darkness? yes. Others? Not so sure.

[unkempt egret]

alright finished my level guide for mariomon that's mostly spoilerless

alongside a pretty sketchy full-moveset sheet (I didn't find a way to check abilities and I forgot I could use knock off until level 45 ROFL)

...oh. wasn't expect that pack to have anything notable

[mystic flint]

kinda sad people in the netherlands and belgium cant play this

[unkempt egret]

I understand why but rip

this was not in any way a nuz but it was a game clear I suppose? ||Duplighost and Beanie were the main scouters for movesets and items respectivley, Amayzee Dayzee was the general nuke (when Beanie wasn't also being a nuke with acrobatics), Heave-ho was because it was one of the few mons I missed in the nuz file (and was really rare to find lol) and gave some bulk in and an out for Kamek, Strollin was mostly just for innards out stuffs, and Pidgit was a late addition that was basically useless.||

[waxen grail]

I feel like USUM are the popular pokemon games to hate atm

[brisk hedge]

That’s wild, considering how trash most of the switch games are

Well, maybe “disappointing” would be a better word, but still

[unkempt egret]

it's because of USUM's launch imo

since they advertised it very similarly to B2W2 and people were expecting something more like a sequel plot instead of SM's plot just put through the anime's characterizations

so going back to it so soon after SM (which also happened with B2W2 to an extent) left a sour taste in people's mouths

at least that's what I saw

(the west in general has a habit of over-expecting things from pokemon IMO, it's almost always "what you see is what you get" with anything that doesn't qualify as a spoiler)

[warm vine]

Just made another creature but it needs a name

It has two forms

And had to make my own typings for it so it's black form is lunar and it's white form is solar.

[waxen grail]

Yeah they always complain about how the story is too constricting and the plot changes are bad

Meanwhile anytime I replay alola it's USUM cuz I enjoy the changes

[unkempt egret]

I mean the story thing is something that base SM also has so I'm generally not one to complain about that bit since I generally don't mind it

actually in hindsight does gen 7 require you to randomly backtrack to an early/midgame area like emerald (and I think R/S) does with the slateport visit?

[plucky linden]

What a silly guy.

[split flint]

Thx hopefully i can figure out a way to get it to work on Android in a jank way if its pc only

[unkempt egret]

WHAT

the heck

why can snubbul/granbull learn overheat since gen 3???

[supple basalt]

It's a ROMHack. So you can use an emulator

[waxen grail]

Most I hear is complaints that Lusamine gets off scott free as an abuser and the family's characters are all assassinated off to add in the URQ

as in they didn't grow at all in USUM compaired to SM

(which I disagree with but I guess I'm in the wrong for "siding with an abuser")

[unkempt egret]

I forget if I said it on here or somewhere else but lusamine I feel is one of those "writers initially went harder than they were supposed to on the characterization and everyone liked the more intense version more than what was actually intended/later portrayed with the character"

...now that I think about it her and Silver/gen 2 rival are kinda similar in that regard

Ghetsis is also a good comparison since I know some people didn't take kindly to B2/W2 confirming that he and N weren't directly related which is a strange statement to say with 13 years of hindsight

since they very much wanted ghetsis to be The Ultimate Evil of the pokeworld (in terms of vileness I geuss he still is compared to the rest of the main series baddies but fans still gonna take it farther than canon finds comfortable)

[sweet crypt]

I somehow doubt Ghetsis would be opposed to manipulating a biological child the same way he did N

Bro is an actual psychopath

[unkempt egret]

for US/UM lusamine I've also seen some people comment that keeping the frozen pokemon bit is also strange considering that it fits more with her SM counterpart (and S/M in general trying to make her an "evil" counterpart to the player) than her US/UM characterization

[waxen grail]

I just feel like having her essentially be lobotomized by Nihiligo was a bit much >.> Like, in USUM she actually gets to learn and become a better person while the rest of the family gets to grow and learn to trust her again

we also get closure of sorts with the father

Also I bet in reality the frozen pokemon are laid to rest after the whole RR fiasco

there is 1 thing I will never forgive alola for

and that is Bruxish

disgusting thing

[wraith musk]

[wraith musk]

WHAT THE FUCK

[raven bison]

Wishiwashi is good, or nah? Is it worth it to use?. Any recommendation for its movesets?.

[wraith musk]

no idea

low hp, so ideally nah

[raven bison]

I'm playing pokemon ultra moon rn, let me try it out & see if I can make it work.

[raven bison]

After 20 minutes fishing, My second Wishiwashi encounter have brave nature. I'll take it.

[radiant leaf]

I now have every art for weavile EX in pocket

[wraith musk]

that swag

[brisk hedge]

What are you, me?

[radiant leaf]

Nah, just trying to complete space time smack down and i pulled both AA's before the base art

[unkempt egret]

rofl I had that happen with arceus in triumphant light

[radiant leaf]

Ye my friend had the same issue

[brisk hedge]

You think that’s crazy? Check out my luck with Palkia

[radiant leaf]

I have like 5 base arts and 3 interactive arts

[brisk hedge]

Of Palkia?

[radiant leaf]

Yeah

[brisk hedge]

Never mind, the crown is clearly yours then

I did just remember that I had a 5th base art, but traded it for a Weavile cause I didn't have one at the time

[unkempt egret]

the AI already blew the opportunity to force me out

also shoutouts to the AI forcing two shuffles and me drawing lillie both times

[zenith nexus]

What are your guys' thoughts on Gen5's elemental monkeys; Pansage, Pansear, and Panpour?

I think they're kinda neat

[brisk hedge]

They definitely get way more hate then they deserve

[viral matrix]

Ugly and strayed too far from what they were going for

Based on the wise monkeys but nothing shows which monkey is what

[radiant leaf]

Incorrect. Simipour’s eyes show it as being see no evil, Simisear has large ears, thus hear no evil, and Simisage has larger mouth, thus speak no evil

[viral matrix]

Why would they be larger? I'd understand if they were smaller than the others

Smaller since the monkey is shutting out that temptation so it would use it less

[radiant leaf]

I might be wrong on the fire a d grass one, been a bit since I’ve seen the elemental monkeys. But ik simipour has its eyes shut

[viral matrix]

And that's where the problem lies

Simipour at least tried but why are its eyelids the same color as its eyes?

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-wynaut-happy-jump-gif-17071241

There are far worse Pokémon then the monkeys though

[viral matrix]

You can at least tell they're permanently closed on the wobbuffet line....

What's stopping someone from thinking simipour has white pupils?

[coarse estuary]

ive decided to continue my monomasters run with usum psychic but idk what starter to give myself. any1 have any suggestions

[viral matrix]

Solosis, bronzor, ralts

[coarse estuary]

if i went ralts would i go male for gallade or female for garde

[viral matrix]

Would you rather have a fairy or fighting type?

[coarse estuary]

idk. i mean fairy could be good to help with the dark and bug weaknesses but at the same time a fighting type could be good too

[viral matrix]

Personally, I'd go with Gallade for variety

Especially since it's a physical attacker which is rare for psychic types

[coarse estuary]

yeah the only thing really that the gard covers gallade doesnt is the ghost dark types but i can have a malamar for those

[viral matrix]

Yep

[light chasm]

Yall think I'm good to battle Watson? 🦖

[light chasm]

Manectric 😭🥀

[random herald]

you cooked 😭

[coarse estuary]

i think ive decided to get a ralts as my starter

[brisk hedge]

Which game?

[worldly gulch]

yeah im rerolling these stats

lets see these stats

eh

still just "good"

[twin monolith]

Does anyone else theme their Pokémon nicknames?

[tight granite]

i usually delete a chunk their original name and then just add some letters till i got a neat sounding name

like if i where to get a magikarp

i could like go mag

er

nicus

magernicus

[twin monolith]

In Pokemon Platinum the theme was gods.

Poseidon the Empoleon
Bastet the Luxray
Cupid the Togekiss
Ares the Gallade
Fafnir the Garchomp
Freya the Froslass.

And
Gosh the Bidoof

Shoutouts to Astraios the Staravia, Demeter the Roselia.

Probably one of my favorite Pokémon teams, I only fell into two of the Sinnoh traps!
(exluding astarios and demeter as they weren't permanent members.)

[worldly gulch]

I dont know

I feel like I should reroll again

[twin monolith]

Currently doing a Playthrough of X & Y where the theme is fashion

[worldly gulch]

I might roll with this...

just looked at it looks like IVs are pretty much the same

welp

[coarse estuary]

ultra sun mono psychic

[smoky gyro]

Isnt species clause optional

Or is it necessary in hardcore nuzlockes

[sweet crypt]

N using exclusively weather teams (and his dragon) in B2W2 makes me wonder if Gamefreak saw what Competitive Singles looked like in BW and went "Yeah, fuck it, we ball"

AFAIK weather wasn't as common in VGC

[worldly gulch]

I just got all of my SV dexs filled so my meloetta has a sister now.

[smoky gyro]

Cutee

[sweet crypt]

Jimothy Cool really just posted "What are your Pokemon Hot Takes" only to get bombarded with 50 million of the same overrepeated takes

This is as hot as Antarctica

Except for the guy petitioning to remove the OHKO clause

That actually is a hot take

Because 0 sane people will agree with it

[brisk hedge]

What’s the OHKO clause?

[unkempt egret]

"no OHKO moves" basically

(the fissue/guillotine/horn drill/sheer cold quartet)

[violet dawn]

Let's be friends in Pokémon GO! My Trainer Code is 561344695925!

[coarse estuary]

i bet you are a dirty little scammer

[violet dawn]

No

I just want frends

And trade

[unkempt egret]

trades are still local only sadly. (also can't use the code I think since I'm still playing)

case in point. niantic pls. (the game crashed right after and was displaying normally after I reloaded.)

[pine ingot]

ew

[unkempt egret]

yea I'm not sure why or how that texture thing happened rofl

[unkempt egret]

done until the next pack

[zealous glacier]

can anyone trade me a shiny Giratina

i dont have any shiny ledgendarys but i do have alot of regular shinys

[coarse estuary]

why would someone just willingly give a shiny legend?

lol i just had to tell someone in another server that any info on gen 10 was leaked potenially fake info because nothing has been officially revealed and they acted like i just told them bruce wayne is batman with how shocked they were

[unkempt egret]

I_Want_To_Believe.png

...I dunno what image that would be rofl

[brisk hedge]

Someone holding a sign that says “the sky is green” while looking at the ground

[smoky gyro]

Guys

Is there a cap for Supreme Overlord

Can I abuse it with Revival Blessing

[sweet crypt]

Yes, 5

There is, however, no cap for Last Respects

Well, there is

But it's 5050 BP

Which OHKOs a quad resist with maxed out EVs, IVs, a +Defence nature and Fur Coat if you're using Basculegion for it

So it may as well have no cap

[smoky gyro]

I dont think thats possible in practice though

You would need Harvest+leppa berry+revival blessing right

[sweet crypt]

It is, but you're only pulling it off if your opponent has no braincells

[smoky gyro]

Which no current Pokemon has

[sweet crypt]

Cresselia's Lunar Blessing heals PP

[smoky gyro]

Well I guess recycle is a move

[sweet crypt]

So you can loop reviving Cresselia and using Lunar Blessing to kill it to heal PP

[smoky gyro]

I see

Watch gamefreak release a scrappy last respects mon

[sweet crypt]

Scrappy only works for Normal/Fighting vs Ghost and not vice versa, no?

[smoky gyro]

I think its vice versa too

But I need to check

Okay nevermind no it doesnt

[last egret]

UNPOPULAR OPINION
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky is the most underrated spinoff game

[sweet crypt]

The only reason this opinion is unpopular is because I feel like EoS is in the top 5 of spinoffs popularity wise

But technically that does still make it an unpopular opinion

So I can't argue against that

[last egret]

That's not true. Explorers of Sky sold LESS copies than Time and Darkness

[sweet crypt]

Fun fact: Popularity changes over time

[last egret]

That's why it's unpopular. I think EoS is really good but most people believe Time and Darkness are better (Hence why they sold more)

[sweet crypt]

Like 90% of the time I see PMD mentioned, it's EoS

[last egret]

I will also defend Black 2 and White 2 as underrated games

they are the lowest selling mainline DS pokemon games

Lower than even Heartgold and Soulsilver

Which also is underrated

[sweet crypt]

Apparently SSBU is considered a Pokemon spinoff by Bulbapedia

So nevermind

(As well as all the other Smash games)

If those games count as pokemon spinoffs every spinoff game's placement drops by 5 excluding MAYBE Pokemon GO

[last egret]

Gen 5 was initially a controversial game.

Gen 6 got way more initial praise

But im one of the few who prefers gen 5 over gen 6

@sweet crypt people disliked the fact that the Regional dex was locked to only new pokemon in Black and White and that other gen mons were locked until the postgame

[sweet crypt]

Remember what I said about games gaining more popularity over time?

Gen 5 is probably a top 3 generation in terms of popularity nowadays

[last egret]

Pokemon doesnt think Unova is popular. Sinnoh got a legends game, then they skipped right over Unova and went to Kalos for another legends game

[sweet crypt]

At least among more hardcore Pokemon fans

If we look at popularity in general though yeah no Gen 1 sweeps lmfao

[last egret]

If Unova was popular, you'd bet your ass Pokemon would give more unova

But Kalos is much widely regarded among fans

[sweet crypt]

Let's say I make 3 Pokemon

[last egret]

most hardcore fans prefer X & Y over black and white

is that fair to say?

[sweet crypt]

A fire, water and grass starter

Despite less people saying they like the Grass starter, I give it extra attention

[last egret]

You know what I'm gonna say it, Johto is a pretty weak region

It doesn't feel as complete as other regions

[sweet crypt]

Is that unreasonable?

[last egret]

Grass pokemon are usually the most popular

[sweet crypt]

Gen 5 nowadays is the generation I see the least hate on

[last egret]

Gen 6 got way more love

[sweet crypt]

Except maybe Gen 3 lmao

I cant say the same for Gen 4 because Diamond and Pearl exist

[last egret]

What do you mean

most people like D/P

I personally think they are very flawed but the overwhelming consensus has the sinnoh games as elite tier games

You'd be hardpressed to find people that actually hate gen 4

[sweet crypt]

Nowadays, people do see DP as very, VERY flawed games

[last egret]

Personally speaking (Unpopular) Platinum bailed out the sinnoh games

Platinum was spectacular and fixed most of the glaring issues with diamond and pearl

[sweet crypt]

Once again, not an unpopular take

Very popular, in fact

[last egret]

I'm also gonna say BDSP is underrated

it introduced Gen Z and Gen Alpha to Sinnoh for the first time

So it did it's job well

[sweet crypt]

I feel like everyone I see either praises HGSS as a top 3 game or puts it somewhere in the middle

Without any in between

[last egret]

Generally speaking more people prefer Gen 6 to Gen 5. You can see this by the reviews when each game first released

Gen 5 had mixed reception while Gen 6 was generally more positive

[sweet crypt]

Once again, initial praise means nothing nowadays

[last egret]

Why not?

[sweet crypt]

XY was released more than a decade ago

And the Gen 5 games even earlier

[last egret]

I personally think Gen 5 was ahead of it's time storytelling wise but that's not a widespread belief

[sweet crypt]

Gen 5 may have been very unpopular back then, but as I said, nowadays they're one of the most praised generations in the entire franchise

[sweet crypt]

Blud people literally always say that Gen 5 games had the best story of all the mainline games

[last egret]

I'm one of the few people who actually likes characters like N, Colress, Ghetsis, Hugh, etc.

[last egret]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-sword-and-shield-sword-and-shield-gif-13656570

Sword and Shield: "Am I a joke to you?"

[sweet crypt]

At some point it feels like it's constantly opposite day for you

[last egret]

Sword and Shield are slept on

[sweet crypt]

True, but I can't in good faith say that it has the best story of the mainline games

They aren't as bad as people say they are IMO

Mainly the roster

I really liked Gen 8's roster

[last egret]

Gens 1-3 barely had any story. Gen 4 had some story but they mostly left you alone. Gen 5 had a decent story but Gen 6 onwards the whole game revolved around a larger story

Gen 5 had a mix of a story while also leaving you to do whatever for the most part

[sweet crypt]

Gen 8's roster is statistically my 3rd favourite

[last egret]

Also most people think the Gen 5 starters are on the weaker side

[sweet crypt]

Well, that's your opinion. The issue is that we're talking about general opinion right now

And the general opinion is that the Gen 5 games had the best story

[last egret]

How many people out there actually say Emboar and Samurott are their favorite starters

[sweet crypt]

That is true, that is what people think of the Gen 5 starters

I give you that

[last egret]

that's why Gen 5 is underrated

most people overlook the starters

[sweet crypt]

Maybe in terms of the starters

[last egret]

I happen to like Serperior personally

but very few like him

[sweet crypt]

But I promise you in most aspects Gen 5 is extremely well loved

Every generation has a weak point

(Well, multiple)

(But like)

(Shh)

[last egret]

Gen 5 also tried to make Triple Battles a thing but that never really stuck

[sweet crypt]

One of the aspects of Gen 5's roster that many appreciate heavily are its Bug types

I've seen most say that Gen 5's roster of Bugs are the best

[last egret]

Bianca and Cheren aren't the most popular rivals either

[sweet crypt]

N almost definitely is though

... Except Blue

But that's Blue

[last egret]

Nobody talks about N anymore

he's kinda forgotten but he's an underrated character

Most pokemon fans will be like "Who" if you ask them who N is

[sweet crypt]

Only if they started in like idk

Gen 7

[last egret]

When it comes to iconic rivals, it's probably Blue, Silver, Barry, Wally and Hop

[sweet crypt]

Actually, not even Gen 7

[last egret]

as the top 5

[sweet crypt]

I think Colress mentions N in USUM

Gen 8

Or maybe they quit before Gen 5

[last egret]

I think Hop is more popular than N

in terms of the whole community opinion

[sweet crypt]

(I know Ghetsis definitely does)

[sweet crypt]

Based on community opinion, I'd sooner call Hop lower half than top half

I've seen uhh

Quite a lot of Hop hate

[last egret]

The only rival I actually kinda hate is Trace from Let's Go

he's a poor man's Blue

[sweet crypt]

Both Red and Blue are NPCs in the game, so not much can be done

[last egret]

Still he's basically the equivalent of Blue but without the Aura

[sweet crypt]

Are Red and Blue like the only player character and rival to return as NPCs?

Actually, I think Wally appears in the Battle Tree in the Gen 7 games

I could be wrong though

A lot of characters appear in the battle tree

[last egret]

Idk I still think Gen 5 is underrated but id like to see what the larger community thinks

[sweet crypt]

OK yeah, Wally does appear in the Battle Tree

Using (Mega) Altaria, (Mega) Gallade, (Mega) Garchomp and Magnezone

He uses 3 of these on his final team in ORAS, and Altaria is in the penultimate team. However, out of the 3 Megas, Gallade is the only one whose Mega form he has used in said game.

[last egret]

I gtg btw I will talk later

[sweet crypt]

Anyways, I have an opinion

No clue how popular or unpopular it is

But it's that SV's roster is very strong

[last egret]

In the meantime check out this Latios card I bought

[sweet crypt]

I dont know its popularity because the only thing people know how to critique about SV are the "common" glitches (None of which I've ever actually encountered despite pouring a lot of time into the game apart from one that doesn't affect gameplay anyways) and the performance (Which isn't great, but it isn't single digit bad like I see quite a few people say. Also L:A had worse performance for me)

... Can you tell I find these complaints exaggerated?

I mean apart from complaints of difficulty

But like

Every Pokemon game is easy anyways

Who cares

The only time they're gonna be hard is on a challenge run

And depending on the challenge in question, not even that

[unkempt egret]

meanwhile I didn't have an issue with SV's performance because uh

I played bloodstained ritual of the night's switch port at the start of that year and got a taste of real hardware chugging rofl

(I like bloodstained but the switch port is the only switch game I had to have an actual crash counter for)

on another note I finished that hack I can't say because you can't get it anymore and uh

first time using a light ball pikachu lol

[worldly gulch]

Go to lag lake

[sweet crypt]

Definitely the place with the worst fps but even there it isn't single digit

And also, if I were to say every Pokemon sucked because Flutter Mane sucks

That'd be hardly fair would it?

That's the same logic here

[unkempt egret]

...does anyone know how to remove EVs in mariomon?

if not then I'd have to play the ||E4 fights in 1.3 then swap to 1.4 for the champ since snifit changes stats after one battle||

[worldly gulch]

I heard Flutter Mane is good

[sonic sky]

is there any way to transfer saves from gba games on phone to pc?

I rlly want to finish pkm unbound and im on elite four

[sonic sky]

Peak

[unkempt egret]

I should try unbound again

but I got like 4 more hacks to finish

(mariomons, vega, resprited, and evolved)

[unkempt egret]

yooo first one-chance mon with at least 14 in all stats since jirachi all the way back in 2019

[unkempt egret]

hmmmmmm

teambuilding for the E4 in super mariomon and I think I have my gameplan mostly solved (||spindrift is getting so much mileage rofl||) but I'm heavily debating on my final team member

so far it's between ||the angry sun and a jabbi||, the former's done more work overall in the run but doesn't have any exceptionally good matchups in the endgame while the latter is a comedy mon that can potentally snipe the champion's final mon if my main flying type fails to do so. ||Snifit|| is also a possible option but the one good matchup it has is something that can be done by any competent physical attack and I have to fight the main E4 in 1.3 if I go that route.

the rest of the team atm is ||spindrift, hisstocrat, chincho, and fighter fly||

also seems like I can lower EVs since the berries are in the final town before the endgame so that's a major issue off my shoulders

[sweet crypt]

By the one objective method of measuring how "good" a Pokemon is, competitive viability, sure

However, I do not care

I fucking HATE Flutter Mane

Least favourite Pokemon, easily

[brisk hedge]

Because it’s a competitive nightmare, or another reason

[sweet crypt]

All of the above

Every reason you can hate a Pokemon is a reason I hate Flutter Mane

It's also infuriating when people give this mf a 620+ BST evolution

As if it isn't broken enough

"Oh but Misdreavus evolves into Mismagius" Shut up

Yeah guys Mega Rayquaza isn't the literal most broken Pokemon

Hey, it has an empty item slot

Let's give it a Mega Evolution!

... I am not joking btw, someone has actually done this

They did not want to settle for 4th

[brisk hedge]

I wasn’t aware of Flutter Mane getting 2 megas, being a ride Pokémon despite not being in the regional dex, getting a g-max form, being the ace of a champion 7 generations after it was introduced and being in SWSH at launch despite every other starter having to wait until the DLC if they even made it into the game at all

[sweet crypt]

It is popular as fuck among casual fans though... for some reason

Ah yes, Misdreavus with more hair

PEAK creativity right here

But this Gardevoir/Gallade fusion?

Man, I could've came up with that in my sleep while having a sickness

ONCE AGAIN I'VE SEEN ACTUAL PEOPLE LIKE THIS

How hypocritical can you be for liking Flutter Mane but hating the Future Paradoxes for "lack of creativity" when it's the least creative Paradox of all?

[brisk hedge]

Or it only existing to steal the evolution of its original form and having the polar opposite personality just to make it a pain the ass to catch

[sweet crypt]

... what?

[brisk hedge]

White striped Basculin

[sweet crypt]

Ah, alright

Well, it existing instead of like

A Mismagius paradox

Kinda counts I guess

Even though there is a valid reasoning

That being that these mfs are old

And Mismagius was introduced far later than Misdreavus

DOESN'T EXPLAIN FUCKING SCREAM TAIL THOUGH

[brisk hedge]

Lore wise though?

[sweet crypt]

Who also has EVERY PROBLEM I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED

But at least it doesn't have a fucking ridiculous type or ridiculous stats

[sweet crypt]

It even is uncreative in the EXACT SAME WAY as Flutter Mane

[brisk hedge]

Seriously though, I don’t get why they made paradox forms of not fully evolved Pokémon

[sweet crypt]

This

Probably

Would explain everything apart from Scream Tail

For that idk

Popularity diff

Which is so fucking annoying but alright

Crazy how even with these 2 shitters the Gen 9 roster is still my favourite statistically

[brisk hedge]

Also, remember that this is the same franchise that thought slapping eyes on a poke ball, then having it turn upside down when it evolves was a good design

And then they reused that design except it’s made out of wood

[sweet crypt]

Not the worst example

Since at least they created the Pokeball

And it isn't an IRL thing

There's a bunch of Pokemon that are similarly uncreative across every generation

[brisk hedge]

None as bad as a ball with eyes I’d argue

[sweet crypt]

Idk there's a lot of Pokemon that are just insect larvae or pupae

Some of them are more creative than others

Others are as basic as is possible

[brisk hedge]

Yeah, every Gen has its hits and misses

[merry dune]

Should I fuse Zacian and Guzzlord, or Mega Tyranitar and Guzzlord?

[sweet crypt]

Fusing Guzzlord with any of these doesn't sound like a good idea to me tbh

What does it have?

Because it better have some crazy shit for a Guzzlord to be worth it

[merry dune]

moot point now, I fused it with Zacian

[sly badge]

I finally beat Pokemon Yellow

[crude holly]

what game is this? wow level 7223

[simple quartz]

Pokerogue

Pokemon but it's a roguelike now

[crude holly]

online?

or rpgxp pc game

[analog pewter]

Does anyone have a foreign ditto on pokemon scarlet I could have please? It would be amazing

[sweet crypt]

Pokerogue is browser-based

[velvet cradle]

Just discover seaglass it’s very cool

[sweet crypt]

I have had a revelation

Blaziken and Quaquaval...

• Are both birds that are significantly more man-shaped than a typical bird
• Are both Fighting types
• Are both starters
• Both have kick-based signature moves that use their starter type
• Both boost speed a lot
• Both have funny hair
• Are both UUBL

I'd include Hisuian Decidueye but it does not meet half of criteria 4 and criteria 5-8

So rip bozo

(Also Blaze Kick isn't signature anymore but who gives a shit most signature moves aren't signature anymore anyways)

(V-Create went from signature to not signature to signature again)

[simple quartz]

It's that or they're just fucking gone

RIP my queen Vespiquen...

[wraith musk]

found some old glitch and became a millionaire

[unkempt egret]

Charizard Moment

[unkempt egret]

...what's this one again, sirfetch'd? cursola?

[unkempt egret]

implying regular basculin wasn't a pain to catch prior to gen 9

[unkempt egret]

someone make a hack that has these 3 as a starter.
"oops, all but also none birds!"

[brisk hedge]

It certainly didn’t vaporize the instant you laid eyes on them

[unkempt egret]

I haven't played legends arceus but that does remind me of veluza from gen 9

[brisk hedge]

Look up footage of someone trying to catch White striped Basculin

[unkempt egret]

that being said it's also one of the two mons that evolves though an untranslatable japanese number pun (G-yamask being the other) because GF had an unhealthy interest for it in gen 8

[placid fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-mad-fish-sponge-bob-angry-gif-12369198217513035864

The only three star I pulled and it’s not a Pokemon but better than nothing

[unkempt egret]

will be good with all the rare candy strats flying around

[hard plume]

OH COME ON
I LOST INTEREST IN POKEMON GO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO

[unkempt egret]

making that in-person only is a pokeneva convention violation

[unkempt egret]

speaking of pokeneva convention violations

there go two of my mons in vega to OHKO crits, one of which was the shiny unicorn

[unkempt egret]

ok so I looked up my mariomon endgame and

||coast is clear. only 7 TMs are in postgame and none of them were ones I was planning on using aside from maybe phantom force on chincho||

||peach does come down to a belly drum strat though and if I get crit, the dummer dies but I can at least just reload from outside of the premise if she's the first one fought||

||E-Gadd is the other tricky fight, mostly because king boo and twirler can do bad things if they land crits and I will have to be forced out at one point unless eerie comes out last for whatever reason||

||Kamek is annoying but getting to +1 on angry sun should be game set with full speed EV's and a coil on hissto (including a sucker punch on kamek himself which might ease up my EV load if that's the only thing I was needing to outspeed)||

||toadsworth is basically a punchline. 6 moonblasts and his yoob doesn't have any anti-fairy coverage for... some reason||

I'm also assuming enemies have 31 IV's (it is endgame after all) and badge boosts aren't a thing, both of which may ease some things up if they aren't correct assumptions. there's one case where that could cause a problem and that's ||gooper doing a slow pivot on king boo (or broozer but that's fast enough that it shouldn't matter anyway)||

...oh

||ROFL fighter fly outspeeds the entire E4 even with no speed EVs at all. then again the enemies don't have EV's either so I guess that makes sense||

[unkempt egret]

oh gosh that was a horrifying thought I had that didn't pan out since the capture doesn't get swagger

intentionally using swagger and a mirror herb to boost your own attack since you don't get any other way to do it

poor ||chincho|| really does get no ways to boost its own stats

there's a lot of really silly things in this movepool that sadly mean very little in a nuz context though

...WHAT???

perish body only applies on contact?

not that it matters much since the mon I'm using is using shadow claw

...oh

well that was a stupidly simple solution

turns out that uh, ||70/55 special bulk is terrible enough that an adamant uninvested shadow ball is still enough to one-shot.||

[lucid gulch]

here to share a few fun abilities from the fangame Ive been playing, tectonic

got loads more but three is probably good amount

[last egret]

wanna know what messes me up. Pokemon Red and Blue came out in English in 1998. it got a remake of Firered and Leafgreen in 2004. That would be the equivalent of getting a remake of Sword and Shield this year

6 year difference

[sweet crypt]

Why are the summaries using dark mode and the other using light mode or something

[unkempt egret]

that just made me realize that in japan the same thing happened with super mario 64

both came out in 1996 and got a remake in 2004

[brisk hedge]

You want to know the difference between those remakes and the more recent Pokémon remakes though? They were actually good

[simple quartz]

Yeah because GF is a very limited dev team who were working with what they got (pixel/2D sprites) and clearly is understaffed undercooked and overworked and they're not even the most important part about Pokemon anymore

[unkempt egret]

pointless complaining, heard it a million times before

...alright that was karma but uuuuugh

right as I was done with my EV training, emulator overclocks (and freezes, forcing me to close it)

I'm not sure why it does that only when I'm home

[sweet crypt]

Idk, isn't general consensus that ORAS were good remakes

And that's the 2nd newest remake rn

With BDSP not being developed directly by Gamefreak iirc

[unkempt egret]

I feel like OR/AS comes down to whether or not you played emerald first if that makes sense?

since I've noticed that those that either didn't play gen 3 or skipped emerald are much more positive about it

[sweet crypt]

So a big part is them remaking RS and not Emerald

(Like BDSP being remakes of DP but not Platinum, except BDSP is full on hated lmao)

[unkempt egret]

as opposed to how HG/SS was basically a remake of crystal (or at least felt like one) with some G/S version content tacked on

but then again HG/SS moves like an ant pushing a brick through a desert in terms of pacing

[brisk hedge]

Let’s Go is the second newest remake

[unkempt egret]

and since HG/SS has the most content of any game, that almost sounds more like a backhanded compliment nowadays given the pacing lol

[sweet crypt]

Fair, fair

[brisk hedge]

Assuming you don’t count Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team DX

[unkempt egret]

(B2/W2 comes close but that game also suffered from having the shortest online span of the main pokemon games at less than 2 years)

[sweet crypt]

Didn't think about it since it's a weird case

Where the mechanics themselves were changed

[unkempt egret]

also slight knock on mariomon but

of all of the things it kept from vanilla pokemon why the dumb "check tag" bit in the berry menu

especially since that information is useless in a game with no contests lol

it's very minor but it does make removing EVs more annoying

hmmm

I've also been assuming neutral natures out of everything

which I don't think there's any close edge cases except for ||broozer's|| speed stat because it could drop a swagger if it outspeeds, which it does do if it's jolly but not if it's neutral

ROFL

saves game, emulator overlocks less than a minute later

[unkempt egret]

alright I've finished the training again

hmmmm

so sitrus berry only pops if I'm actually hit (which given that ||yoshi|| has four attacks, I will be)

I'm wondering if it's worth it to instead go for ||a chilan berry|| to make sure I'm not one-shot

hmmm actually I could use the non-nuz file to test some things

like that speed stat or if the AI sees if you have a chilan berry

so in testing it seems like ||yoshi|| just goes for zen headbutt regardless of the chilan berry being present or not

which thankfully

Lvl 56 0+ Atk ||Yoshi|| Zen Headbutt vs. Lvl 62 252 HP / 6 Def ||Super Fly|| on a critical hit: 92-110 (40.1 - 48%) -- guaranteed 3HK0

(I'm assuming this game runs gen 6+ crits because otherwise storm throw being 60 base power would be hilarious)

ROFL well that happened (testing abilities)

[sweet crypt]

Built different

[unkempt egret]

also role play does allow me to see abilities so now I can check that as well, I don't think anything is nastier for the plan than that one though

[unkempt egret]

whelp

so ||pyoro|| had gale wings, I can survive a hit with a coba berry it just hurts to do so

||E. Gadd's lead also has cursed body but if it does proc then I can run protect and chip it out with the shadow ball anyway||

...oh.

||Lvl 59 0+ Atk Gale Wings Pyoro Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. Lvl 62 252 HP / 252+ Def Gooper Blooper: 50-60 (20.7 - 24.8%) -- guaranteed 5HKO||

||Lvl 62 0 SpA Gooper Ice Beam vs. Lvl 59 0 HP / 0 SpD Pyoro: 212-250 (103.4 - 121.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO||

[unkempt egret]

oooh that's really cool

I know that's part of emerald essencials probably but

that's the two dangerous ones done

also their E4 music choice is... interesting.

not against it but ||this is still more of a kingdom hearts track than a mario one even if it comes from a mario game||

(for reference it's ||the dark star's theme from the inside story remake which is a straight-up boss remix of a theme from... birth by sleep I think?||)

it does actually work well in the hoenn soundfont though

gen 3 AI in a shellnut, the one thing that lives an attack from this of course comes out last

...not like it can do overly much though. (reasons why you don't willingly use ||last resort|| as your only normal STAB)

well that was an... ending.

champ was uh kinda dumb and ||sent pyoro out on hiss because it had power whip... which it didn't use as it just went for x2 knock off and died to gooper||

kinda sad that ||jabbi and snifit|| couldn't join but they put in good work over the run (well, okay work for the former)

[digital root]

Im curious what did you run on ||Jabbi||?

[unkempt egret]

||Jabbi's|| movepool was nutty but I ended up settling for... silver wind/air cutter/ominous wind/vaccuum wave I think?

you can probably swap ominous wind with U-turn if you want for slow pivoting though since mine was making full use of technician

on the subject of movesets the final movesets ended up being

||Gooper blooper - snipe shot/sludge wave/ice beam/aqua jet (this was supposed to be flip turn oops)
Angry sun - sacred fire/solar blade/will-o-wisp/morning sun
Fighter Fly - Storm throw/Acrobatics/Payback/Belly Drum (was bulldoze/charm for most of the run)
Chincho - Shadow Claw/Poltergeist/Body Slam/Bitter Malice (protect over body slam during gadd's fight)
Spindrift - Moonblast/Giga drain/Mystical Fire/Moonlight
Hisstocrat - Earthquake/Sucker Punch/Rock Slide/Coil
Snifit's was a moot point because 1.4 happened but before that it was smart strike/bullet seed/icicle spear/fake-out||

[sweet crypt]

Don't you love it when you just get 400 million type boosting items and slaughter everything as a result?

Hey what other type boosting item is hilariously easy to stack up on apart from Silk Scarf

I remember stacking up a ton of Fairy Feathers easily on Zacian run

Since the Meadow+Fairy Cave cycle is relatively quick

Out of the Legendary Egg Pokemon that I have passive and 3-4 egg moves on, I still have Mewtwo (All 4 Egg moves) and Giratina (All except rare egg move) to test out

I've checked out Groudon, Zekrom, Zacian, Eternatus, Koraidon, Arceus, Zygarde, Miraidon, Lugia, Dialga, Necrozma and Calyrex

I did do a Kyogre run but I only had Electro Shot at the time

However, current Kyogre lacks Electro Shot

So something tells me I'd find the past Kyogre to be stronger because Electro Shot on Kyogre was obscene

I have move reqs for Terapagos and Palkia but lack the passives

And vice versa for Ho-Oh

I have done a few Rayquaza runs with only Ddarts as egg move, it wasn't the greatest

Passive wouldn't be too impactful for it

I think main issue for Rayquaza is that it is at an 8 cost standard without Mega

But is a 9 cost

This is the same issue for Calyrex

Except it's at 8 cost

And Caly-S is arguably 10 cost

With Caly-I being actually reasonable at 8 cost

But ofc Calyrex itself would fit better as like a 2 cost lol

I have done Lunala runs when it still had QD but in the state it is currently in, it's not worth

I've also done Zamazenta runs when it still had VD

Will be doing another one once I get the reqs

I did do a Reshiram passiveless run when it still had Dragon Energy

It was busted

Though now it "only" has Eruption

I have done Xerneas runs back when I had way less unlocks

But when I do one again I want to have about equal unlocks on it as the legendaries I have been using recently

I have no experience with Kyurem or Yveltal for this very reason

I should probably do 2 runs with Mewtwo

One where I go for X

And another where I try for Y

Though there's no guarantee

Now, what runs do I currently want to do? Well I want to do a few normal Pokemon runs

Mainly the ones I have more unlocks on

[lucid gulch]

Just felt like switching during some runs, can adjust quite alot through settings

[sweet crypt]

Here's a list!
(Mega/Gmax) Blastoise
Nidoqueen
Cloyster
Kingdra
Tauros
Typhlosion
Dudunsparce
Slaking
Mega Altaria
Starly
Roserade
Rampardos
Drifblim
Sawk
Hisuian Lilligant
Heatmor
Durant
Minior
Mimikyu
Bruxish
Paldean Tauros
If something is not listed, it is not as high up the priority list OR I have already used it

These runs will focus around using the featured Pokemon, with backup for whatever I could see them struggling with

[unkempt egret]

I'm gonna throw in a vote for sawk or minior out of that list of I'm alllowed

[sweet crypt]

Go ahead

I've wanted to use Sawk for a while but I didn't know what exactly to bring with it and at the time I had other options in mind

That would take a lot less brainpower to plan

Like Sawk you need to bring a plan for both Rayquaza and Eternatus as it isn't consistent at either in theory

As opposed to something like Tyrantrum which can handle Rayquaza fine enough or Ttar which handles both

Looking at Nidoqueen, I suspect it'd perform great vs Eternatus but struggle vs 195 Rival

Anything with Calm Mind or Quiver Dance does well for Eternatus I've found

[random forge]

hey can someone help me citra was working just fine, but after closing it for a few hours i launched it back it, it started crashing as soon as i launched the rom

[delicate hollow]

Is Pokemon Odyssey gonna be a full complete release in just over 2 weeks?
You all seen the final release trailer on YT right so you might know the answer

[robust nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwbuJHdVx70

[slate ore]

Do y’all know if there’s any roms centered around contests and being a coordinator?

I wanna play focusing around doing contests instead of battling

[vital flare]

Ha I wish there was one

[hard plume]

god I wish

that would be pretty fun

Pokemon Contest Simulator

[vital flare]

Well maybe there is one in works hard to know

[slate ore]

I just think it would be cool to have like a Stardew Valley-esque farm where you can grow berries to make poffins and blocks for contest stats, and gym are replaced with contest ribbons, the elite four could be a contest championship with an International Title at stake

Seems like a super fun idea

[vital flare]

There's a few actually with farming at least

[slate ore]

Yeah but they’re usually just berries to use for battle

[vital flare]

Or to sell

[slate ore]

True

Just need a Gen 3 revamp that takes out the gyms😂

[vital flare]

With how many gymless fangames there are why has nobody made a contest only one

[slate ore]

For real, I know they’ve never been THAT popular but like dang, not even one?🥲😂

[vital flare]

Like if the issue is making the poffin/pokeblock thing then just do a Eayer mechanic for it

[slate ore]

They could legit just copy/paste it from Emerald

Not the most fun thing to do a million times but still

[vital flare]

Only if there's a automatic version

[slate ore]

I’d do it like on the go you have to do it manually but at your farm you can make them in bulk at once

Hell I might just make one myself if I could figure out how to use RPGMaker

[coarse estuary]

nuzvivor is popping off bro

[coarse estuary]

for all yall who want a nuzvivor update from me and arent in the server just know weve done 2 gyms so far in the nuzlocke portion of the game and are about to have a 3rd and 4th member voted off when both tribes go to counsil tomorrow.

[simple quartz]

What's Nuzvivor

[coarse estuary]

a mix of survivor and pokemon nuzlocke

[simple quartz]

Like Vampire Survivors or

[coarse estuary]

no like the tv show

[simple quartz]

Oh

[coarse estuary]

i can explain what the show is if ou dont know

[simple quartz]

Oh no dw about it lol

I was only interested cuz I thought someone made a horde survivor Pokemon

[coarse estuary]

on sadge you dont care anymore because it wasnt what you thought it was

[simple quartz]

It do be like that

[sweet crypt]

Welp, 2 Minior votes and 1 Sawk vote

I guess that counts as a Minior win?

Hey does anyone know what level Minior gets Shell Smash at?

Alright, just checked, level 45

[sweet crypt]

Alright Minior run complete

Overall, decent once you get it set up, but even with Sturdy, that could be difficult due to multihit moves and just barely not getting sent below 50%

You absolutely need to be in Minior's 2nd form to sweep

You also have more limited bulk than other things since as a result you can't use items like Leftovers, Shell Bell or Sitrus Berry

It also cannot handle Eternatus

So you will need to bring something for that

OK, continuing my train of thought in #off-topic

All the Eeveelutions need buffs

But how?

With the entire gimmick they have, there's only so much you can do for their stats

Especially when they also just

Have terrible movepools

(For the most part)

Jolteon, Flareon, Leafeon and Glaceon are ZU

And I think out of the 4 only Jolteon is good there

Espeon is PU

Sylveon and Vaporeon are NU

Umbreon is RU though, that's pretty good

It doesn't need a buff

Sylveon and Vaporeon arguably don't need buffs either

Though I would personally buff all of them

But like

How

[sweet crypt]

Who is the universally worst fully evolved Pokemon not named Unown

As in, dogshit in Singles, dogshit in Doubles, (probably) dogshit casually, and dogshit for challenge runs

The answer for best feels too easy, it's just Calyrex Shadow

With a potential argument for Miraidon

Yknow what, throw RandBats into the mix for fun, too

So that Tropius probably doesn't get instantly picked, yknow?

[unkempt egret]

the problem is that their flaws are things like having a single typing and mediocre abilities and their stats just don't hold up anymore in a post gen 5 world when dumping more than just your non-attacking stat (and sometimes speed) is something you have to work hard to make up for

not to mention their main niche in eariler gens being baton pass which either got banned (unofficial) or made far more accessable in gens 8/9 (official)

very much relics of an era now only used for their mascotness

[sweet crypt]

Fun fact I learnt while trying to figure out how many legendaries have quantifiable power feats in the games (Basically only Reshiram, Zekrom and Rayquaza as all others have their feats centering around hax like creating the entire multiverse and shit like that): It is heavily implied that Rayquaza preys on Minior

[rare nebula]

Has anyone heard of Pokémon Reunion DX?

[coarse estuary]

Yes

[rare nebula]

I wanted to download it but it said I had to download an app called MEGA, so I did, but when I tried to download the game again, it still said I needed the app. The app won't even open when I tried to open it

[coarse estuary]

Ask their discord

[rare nebula]

They have a discord?

[coarse estuary]

Yes.

99% of fan games have discords

[rare nebula]

It's probably French though

[coarse estuary]

They have English channels.

[rare nebula]

Send a link?

[coarse estuary]

If a game can be played in multiple languages the discord isnt going to exclude people from it for speaking a certain language and no im not going to give you a link for something you can google

[rare nebula]

Thanks

[coarse estuary]

ok i return now that i was officially blindsided out of nuzvivor

[sonic sky]

peak romhack

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-request-elaboration-white-vision-paul-bettany-wandavision-i-want-an-explanation-gif-22928362

[slow loom]

Hello, I'm having a problem with the Pokemon Sheild DLC. Can anyone help?

[tropic hinge]

What's the problem?

[warped briar]

hi im looking for 1–2 players to join a casual, Pokémon draft using a Google Doc and a Pokémon randomizer to draft available mons by generation or typing. The drafted Pokémon will be listed and used for PokeMMO or other games in cagelocke challenges. Ideally, we're looking for players who are usually online later in the day and can play for multiple hours at a time. Age range we're aiming for is 20–25 dm if interested

[candid spindle]

Opinion on jolteon

[past cairn]

spikey

[marble robin]

yellow (or green if you're very lucky I guess)

[sacred snow]

Guys can I play Pokemon flux on Android If yes please share me the link

[candid spindle]

i have shiny jolteon

the only shiny eeveelution I'm missing is leafeon

wich is why I should shiny hunt eevee and then just evolve it to leafeon

[unkempt egret]

jolty and leafy: sharp siblings

[candid spindle]

fr

honestly my fav eeveelution is sylveon

and I like flareon too

but sylveon is just adorable

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-25537026

cute lil fella

[unkempt egret]

mine's leafy

https://tenor.com/view/leafeon-pokemon-eevee-happy-gif-27462633

[candid spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/leafeon-pokemon-eevee-happy-gif-27462633

lol same gif

[unkempt egret]

lol same thought

[candid spindle]

but yeah leafy cute too

but sylveon is more

it's just the color scheme lol

sylveon has a more adorable color scheme

https://tenor.com/view/flareon-gif-25143610

flareon spin

https://tenor.com/view/umbreon-captain-pikachu-smh-gif-2545585931177769845

this has to be the funniest thing pikachu has done

one of the funniest

whats he doing to the umbreon

https://tenor.com/view/wiggly-tail-gif-19660188

also a fan of

we really need more eeveelutions for other types

dragon eeveelution would be cute

or bug type

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-cat-funny-gif-26280476

but actually my actual fav eeveelution is

WATCH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I CAST A SPELL I DONT KNOW

[brisk hedge]

What’s with all the eeveelutions?

[sweet crypt]

Mmm frozen chicken

My favourite Eeveelution is either Espeon or Vaporeon

Because cat :)

[candid spindle]

fr

[sweet crypt]

Anyways, Sawk run complete as well now

Sawk was overall better than Minior, but can't work on either Eternatus or 195 Rival

Wheel of names has spoken

[sweet crypt]

Currently my Psychic Fangs on a resist are stronger than Surging Strikes

As I had expected, Bruxish was far better than both Sawk and Minior

What I didn't expect, however, was for it to solo the entire game

Needless to say it performed very well

[raven bison]

Yelow machop. All of that is shiny right? How long does it takes to get that much shiny.

[frank lily]

Yeah. All of them are shiny. I got so many because it was an event with increased shiny odds

[unkempt egret]

yea the community day (classic in this case) has vastly increased shiny rates

I didn't get overly many but the machamp is 15/14/15 so I'm still satisfied lol

("tra" means I'm transferring it to home)

[hard plume]

a whole army of incredible hulks

[coarse estuary]

ok since i have to wait for answers before i decide to continue my mono psychic run i think ill pass the time by doing an alpha sapphire randomizer duo palletelocke

[sonic sky]

pokemon sinking sapphire

[delicate hollow]

Wait a sec since WHEN has the paldean pokemon been added to pokemon go?

[unkempt egret]

september 2023 from what I recall. not all are in though since gens 8 and 9 are both staggered releases atm

didn't know they changed the dex screen lol

[unkempt egret]

man I'm sad eviolite isn't in resprited because just

(forgot alte red updated so I'm grabbing the most recent version then nerfing it again lol)

[coarse estuary]

bro route 1 doesnt wanna give me any pokemon with a usuable color and the one pokemon i think would have a usuable color is apparently white

[unkempt egret]

rip

...huh

wasn't expecting to find a pdf of the alte mons with artist's comments on em

I am still gonna yeet ujamalorde from minus tho

might look at gun edition to see which evilutions aren't in it to check

since it seems like glaceon and sylveon's were both moved to gun only since 2.5 (and leafeon gained a gun only one as well)

probably for the best since in 2.3 they still had two of them (umbreon and sylveon I think) chain evolving off other evilutions

[coarse estuary]

ok this is weird 2 mythics and a legend the opposing trainers have had and im not even 1 badge in

[quaint cedar]

Imagine if this was the right answer

[sacred slate]

i'd say it is

[warped briar]

hey anyone wanna do a 4 man cagelocke with a draft? pm if interested thinking of doing it on pokemmo or something

[coarse estuary]

if i didnt have the luck of every time i try and do a cagelocke with people they drop out at or just before gym 1 id say maybe

[warped briar]

look how dedicated me and the boys are

welove it

they can be flakey sometimes on on finishing games but not M.I.A sometimes we just move on to a new thing

if ur interested just dm me looking for a 3rd/4th were available mostly every night

[warped briar]

@coarse estuary 👀

[past cairn]

whats this?

[random glade]

Any good kalos gba ? With mega pokemons ?

[sweet crypt]

Remember how I said Rayquaza was one of the only scaleable legendaries in the game based off destroying the Delta Episode Meteor that could've destroyed all life on the planet?

Apparently, the meteor was about 10km in diameter (which is enough to kill off a large amount of life on earth)

And the force needed to destroy such a meteor would be 24 megatons

Hence, Mega Rayquaza can exert at least 24 megatons of force

[unkempt egret]

is this the ORAS meteor or the PMD meteor

I'm assuming ORAS but strange that it's happened three time twice

[sweet crypt]

ORAS

Given that base Rayquaza handles both Pdon and Pogre

Pdon and Pogre's apocalyptic nature has nothing to do with their sheer force

Since 24 megatons is merely city level

I find it funny that MandJTV just released a Team Sky ORAS Playthrough around 3 minutes ago given what I've been researching

[sweet crypt]

L:ZA October 16th chat

[unkempt egret]

you can tell a hacker is being too spammy with items when revives show up rofl

since the gen 3 AI can't actually use those

[fiery creek]

I phased 7 times on this bastard.

[coarse estuary]

What

[unkempt egret]

phase - finding a shiny of something else in the same area

from what I recall

that's all the boss fights aside from Paxton edited, whew. that just leaves the common trainers left

[unkempt egret]

FRICK.

was editing the wrong file that entire time

at least I can cross-reference with the correct one?

[warped briar]

a google sheet we used to draft mons with a randomizer to decide who can use what mons from each gen

[warped briar]

was just pinging in case u hadnt seen my reply to you abt the cagelock

[unkempt egret]

ok caught up on the correct file's trainers

[coarse estuary]

apparently the elite 4 work for team aqua and they gave em a mega mewtwo

[unkempt egret]

pokerogue?

[wraith musk]

opinions on swapped eyes ?