other-pokemon-games

[flint lagoon]

and now it's raining

game really doesn't want me to see

found one

[tight ivy]

Shiny Tauros is disgusting and it looks ill

and ✨Paldean Tauros, either breed, is aesthetically boring

[flint lagoon]

it was the regular Paldean Tauros

[tight ivy]

ah

[flint lagoon]

wish it was the variant

got my shiny applin though

[tight ivy]

You better evolve it into Hydrapple

[flint lagoon]

of course

[tight ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/god-apple-gif-25138947

[flint lagoon]

Imma name it Notch

just cause it would fit

found a second one

now I got both a male and a female

[tight ivy]

name it crotch

[flint lagoon]

pft

oof, one of the Lapras outbreaks in the academy is in the savanna biome

[tight ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-water-spongebob-heatwave-hot-gif-12150719

[flint lagoon]

yupp

man I wanna play hide and seek

[tight ivy]

It’s funny, you mention that. One of the fakemon artists I follow made a species of Lapras that adapted to land

[flint lagoon]

ooo

at least I can see the lapras. had a hard time even seeing the applins

def make sure to go do a place with like no grass in order to hunt applins in outbreaks

[tight laurel]

@tough scaffold the gameplay trailer we got looks fine, obviously we'll see, but given everything we have seen it looks good

[tough scaffold]

honestly, after everything i've seen on pokemon licence, i don't expect anything anymore

they just run by dumbass lazy corporate stick-in-the-butt money seeking ... ran out of things x)

they make bugged game on assassin's creed level

and they just add a lil bit of sugar powder on it

enough so you don't complain about it being a horrible game

i mean, ANY OTHER company that would make that kind of game would get instantly burned down

[tight laurel]

and honestly, huge hot take, after update 1 scarlet violet was fine, good refreshing story, new fun take on gyms and evil teams, wasn't flawless but after the performance issues were fixed it was a fun game

[tough scaffold]

the problem is not the story

laggy cinematics

NO FKING DOOR ANIMATION ?

A DOOR ?

decorative buidlings with no door

[raven bison]

Yeah let it all out man, let it all out.

[tough scaffold]

like, you have a temple, and you can't get in ?

[tight laurel]

thats like, just false, EA, activision, ubisoft, etc all pump out far worse games than SV and they are all fine

[tough scaffold]

ONE patch of grass every 250m

[tough scaffold]

i don't care about others, it's about pokemon so far, screw EA and all x)

it would be #off-topic if you wanna bring EA and all

[raven bison]

They all flop lol.

[tough scaffold]

but for the "most lucrative licence on the planet" to pull a game like that ?

they swim in money

and they release a half-assed game ?

remember cyberpunk ?

they did the same thing

[tight laurel]

as far as pokemon goes, scarlet violet was objectively among the best pokemon games of all time, the performance issues were fixed within week 1

[tough scaffold]

the bland graphics were not

the lazy interactions either

like i said, they add sugar on it

"oh wow, it's open world, wow, you can do the game in the order you want, wow, you have a story"

[tight laurel]

scarlet violet has overwhelming the best graphics of any pokemon game, challenged by maybe legends arceus

[tough scaffold]

but on the other side you got PS1 grapgics

i prefer legends arceus

[tight laurel]

pokemon wise at least

[tough scaffold]

since it's more chubby chibi

[tight laurel]

i'll admit the scenery for scarlet violet could have used more work

[tough scaffold]

and they can't use switch as an excuse

we have BOTW

make a door animation ?

[raven bison]

ORAS is my favourite lol

[tight laurel]

hot take, BOTW didn't have that great of graphics

[tough scaffold]

like, not a black screen transition

compared to scarlet ? they are UHD

they do the same as Actibli

"look, my trash game, but you can get A UNICORN AK47 <3"

[raven bison]

What's your opinion on rockstar game @tough scaffold

[tough scaffold]

anybody with pokemon passion would make the best game ever with infinite money, but they choose the "we have a huge fanbase, they'll buy"

[tough scaffold]

rockstar in general or just GTA6 ?

[raven bison]

In general. About the game, I always high hope from rockstar game. Especially GTA 6 About to release.

[tough scaffold]

overall, good studio, good games i'd say

since GTA 5 i didn't check anything on them so...

but as for GTA6, too much hype

[tight laurel]

i probably won't buy gta 6 if the price is what they say of 80-100$ for base

[tough scaffold]

i feel like it's a star citizen level hype

[raven bison]

Of course cuz its been like 12 years since the latest gta

[tough scaffold]

they expect WAY too much on that game

btw they also do some serious shit on "non main" pokemon games

detective pikachu 2, ever seen some clips ?

[tight laurel]

i don't wanna think about that monstrosity

[tough scaffold]

i've played alot of fangames

made with literally 0 money

how can infinite money company be that lazy...

[tight laurel]

i watched a dude do a full playthrough of it, and holy crap was it bad

[tough scaffold]

even if you fix bugs in 1 week

the fact that you couldn't fix them "in one week before the release"

that proves the lazyness

[tight laurel]

i mean, basically every game has a day 1 patch of sorts

[tough scaffold]

and i'm not talking about devs

they just do what asked

but when you have the best licence in the world, seriously, build a team and work the game...

[tight laurel]

tbf nintendo isn't completely to blame for detetive pikachu, gamefreak is usually the company that works on pokemon games, however detective pikachu was made by creatures

[tough scaffold]

at least pretend you care

yeah but gamefreaks follows pokemon company orders

[raven bison]

Tbh Gta 6 didn't release till now cuz gta online made so much money. Why do they need to make the new GTA when gta online still made much money. It's rockstar game not some flop devs. Look up all of rockstar games till now. They all goated. rdr, rdr 2 , max payne ,etc.

[tough scaffold]

and iirc nintendo is a majority shareholder on that

[tight laurel]

gamefreak has shown they CAN make a great game, such as legends arceus, the issue is that nintendo pushes for a specific release date to have yearly releases

[raven bison]

that's why they have much hope & hype

[tough scaffold]

yeah yeah i know, i'm blaming ppl, not rockstar

too much hype can kill the game

[tight laurel]

i mean, supossedly they have been working on gta 6 since the release of 5

[tough scaffold]

if they wanted to make a good game in short frametime, they could, just not with 80 ppls

they can hire hundreds, heck, thousands of devs

but no, stick to minimum

why ?

[raven bison]

Yeah let's see about that. Cuz I don't think it will.

[tight laurel]

larger dev teams don't mean a better game, its usually the opposite as too many devs causes issues with communication

[tough scaffold]

cause why use 400m to make a game that's gonna bring you 2 billions when you can only use 50m to get the same 2 billions ?

they started to figure out with DLC

like, we don't want a CoD copy

we've seen yearly release, it's ALWAYS garbage

heck, even battlefield went down with like 5years release

just release the main game when ready, then DLC here and there to add new stuff or what, and side story game here and there, that's it

no need to rush games like a tard

[tight laurel]

i mean, actually looking at the timeline, we only get a new mainline game every 2-3 years

[tough scaffold]

especially when the game is NOT the main income

now we do

there was a rush time before x)

but yet scarlet was a joke

they need time and something else, and as long as they don't figure what that something is...

[tight laurel]

S&S released in 2019, dlc's in 2020, remake in 21, SV and PLA in 22, dlc in 23, ZA in 25

[tough scaffold]

small hint: passion ?

when project lead only has money in his brain...

[tight laurel]

is pretty consistent in a 3 year gap between mainline releases

[tough scaffold]

in 3 years you can drop bangers, see zelda

compare to scarlet

[raven bison]

I love zelda seriesss

[tough scaffold]

even mario makes a better job

mario is consistent

always good

[raven bison]

gba minish cap is my favourite

[tight laurel]

there was a solid 6 years between the zelda games

[tough scaffold]

so how come pokemon dropped in quality

[tight laurel]

botw was 2017, totk was 2023

[tough scaffold]

i know, but the game is infinitely better than scarlet so...

[raven bison]

I love how link could || become small and see the world on different perspective ||

[tough scaffold]

i'm old

[raven bison]

Maybe bcs it was pokemon games. No matter what they drop the pokémon "fans" will always buy & didn't complain. Idk tho I'm not an expert in this.

[tough scaffold]

that's for sure

that's not exclusive to pokemon

but since pokemon is the biggest

you go into complacency mode

"who cares, it's gonna sell"

[raven bison]

[tough scaffold]

CoD, FIFA, we all see the pattern

[raven bison]

True lol. How come they buy technically the same game.

[tough scaffold]

i swear

[tight laurel]

honestly, rushed release schedule aside, i honestly think a large portion of the problems with the new games isn't a lack of passion, as we see is PLA they CAN make a good looking and fun game, they just try to do way too much in the games, this isn't the 90's and early 2000's anymore, adding over 100 pokemon every game is clearly impacting the games

[tough scaffold]

CoD is debatable, but FIFA ? literally an update

[tight laurel]

PLA had a whopping like, 12 new pokemon, and they were just forms

[raven bison]

What about your opinion on fire emblem?

[tough scaffold]

they have shittons of unreleased mons

[tough scaffold]

never played, so...

[raven bison]

Ah I see. I didn't play the switch game. I only play till 3ds. So idk if the switch fire emblem is good or not

[tough scaffold]

don't ask about FF, don't ask about FF, don't ask about FF

why would i play switch games, 360 for a switch when 500 gets me a ps5... AND RATCHET & CLANK

[raven bison]

Final fantasy?

[tough scaffold]

no ?

runs away

[raven bison]

[tough scaffold]

fast

[wispy osprey]

I mean, I would say because the switch has Pokémon games on it, which are frankly the only console games I care about

every other video game I enjoy I can get on pc/mobile and have the same experience pretty much

[raven bison]

I know the final fantasy series is popular. What ff game should I start if i want to play it for the first time?.

[tough scaffold]

i would have played mario and zelda, that's all

i only ever played FF14, which halved my lifespan

end of july 2022: buy the game, end of october ? 1000h

[raven bison]

Ain't no way. Is it that good?

[tough scaffold]

mid july: quit my job

i needed a distraction, it's a RPG

i love farming

[wispy osprey]

fair enough

[tough scaffold]

my instinct took over, and i was playing with a friend

but any other FF game, i'll just say: how many FF game are not "remake" "rebirth" "remaster" or all of the above ?

[raven bison]

True. Its confusing lmao

[tough scaffold]

seriously, i feel like i've seen FF7 release 34 times

and i'm not even 34 yo !!

[raven bison]

[boreal storm]

Zaza Hex Maniac Looks fine

[smoky gyro]

Who are yall gonna pick for the starter in za

[boreal storm]

Chikorita

[smoky gyro]

Same

And call it bean

[raven bison]

||Cyndaquil obviously||

[boreal storm]

But why did they need 2 starter from the same gen?

[smoky gyro]

I thought they were gonna have the gen 6 starters at first

[boreal storm]

We could have the same starter from the previous legend game starter region

Like idk, replace Totodile with Popplio

Or Chikorita with Snivy

[smoky gyro]

I was so excited for mega delphox man

[boreal storm]

Or even tepig with Litten

[smoky gyro]

Not greninja he doesnt need a mega

[boreal storm]

Same

[smoky gyro]

Mega delphox mega chesnaught

And then just ash greninja

[boreal storm]

Mega Chesnaught gonna be though

[tight ivy]

What were the starters again?

[smoky gyro]

Chikorita totodile

And then a random pig

I guess they didnt want to give typhlosion another form but like

Cmon

[raven bison]

Yeah they prolly slip Charizard in the new game.

[smoky gyro]

Theyre definitely gonna

[tight ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[boreal storm]

Hex Maniac full evolution line

[untold hill]

I prefer the fully evolved form

[sweet crypt]

AZ's height is inconsistent in canon

Ranging from over 2.5m to over 3m depending on official source

At a high ball, AZ is as tall as Dhelmise

Which doesn't sound impressive

Until you realise that's taller than Ho-Oh, NDM, Regigigas, Kyurem-W, Miraidon, Groudon, Solgaleo, Kyurem-B, Reshiram, Arceus, Xerneas, Kyurem, Zekrom, both Zamazenta forms, both Zacian forms and Koraidon

And only barely shorter than Lunala

AZ's height is comparable to a box art legendary

If we lowball it to 2.6m, he is shorter than every box art legendary

[boreal storm]

I prefer the Mid evo

[sweet crypt]

He is however as big as Beartic and totem Vikavolt

[boreal storm]

Damn they're tall

[untold hill]

is the mid evo an adult? if yes, then I prefer it too

https://tenor.com/view/inazuma-eleven-go-chrono-stone-inago-cs-anime-bear-kuma-gif-21352148

this is a beartic right?

[boreal storm]

Here's the mega evo if you prefer an even older women

[last egret]

WAKE UP!! IT’S THE FIRST OF THE MONTH

[tight ivy]

I’m severely disappointed in the Z-A starters reveal

[brisk hedge]

I'm severely disappointed that Charizard's in the game

[boreal storm]

Yeah 2 stater from the same gen

[tight ivy]

It should have been ones from Gen II, Gen V and Gen VII (maybe)

wait, if the game is going to have real-time dodging mechanics, does that mean the gameplay will be like PLA?

The starters should have been Snivy, Litten and Totodile

[brisk hedge]

Or Chikorita, Tepig and Poplio

[tight ivy]

Yeahhhh

wasn’t it “Popplio”?

[brisk hedge]

Shut up, spelling is hard

[boreal storm]

This👆

https://tenor.com/view/popplio-heart-locket-meme-funny-my-beloved-gif-27491877

Popplio line is underrated starter ngl

Like if you ask someone who is their favourite starter most of them would says something like gen1 and gen3 starters

[tight ivy]

I chose Popplio in Gen VII because of its eventual typing

[boreal storm]

Why does people says popplio is ugly when she was first announced?

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-lana-popplio-pet-cute-gif-15496782990364183088

Like how do you see this and call it ugly

[unkempt egret]

clown

(I'm on pop's side but I did notice most of the hate was because Clown)

either that or rowlet checking off the Orb checklist too much for some to resist

my first reaction was "hmm interesting I see that disarming voice. if you're fairy then great"

[brisk hedge]

The same reason people hate Emboar despite the other Unova starters and 2 of the Galar starters doing the same thing: people are stupid

[boreal storm]

Gen 6 is even stupider, like why does they hate Quiladin design?

[unkempt egret]

that one I don't have an answer for lol

[boreal storm]

I thought they like chonky and round pokemon

[unkempt egret]

I mean I hate thwakey but I do because it's just grookey but long and angry (rillaboom's fine though I have no issues with boom)

[brisk hedge]

Honestly I’m also not a huge fan of Quiladin

[torn bone]

I chose Popplio in Pokemon SS1 cuz it looks cute and it will evolve into the pretty primarina.

[unkempt egret]

I think I've eviolited quil once? I forget it's been a while

[tight ivy]

SS1? What

[brisk hedge]

This is coming from someone who picked Chespin

[torn bone]

soulstones 1, pokemon fangame

[brisk hedge]

I like the rest of the line though

[tight ivy]

Ok? Didn’t have to ping me

[boreal storm]

I love twakey hair tbh

[torn bone]

and my endgame team is a "beauty mons team"

Mega Gardevoir rekt the legendaries

[untold hill]

oh so soulstones hof looks like that?

[boreal storm]

Hex Sandwich

[torpid pelican]

real

[brisk hedge]

Is it just me or is Empoleon firing Hydro Pump out of his armpit?

[tight laurel]

i refuse to believe that regigas, the man who shaped the continents, and groudon, a actual walking volcano who's mere presence can cause draughts, and actual god, are shorter than a old man, sorry but im usin the anime heights for those mfs, they skyscraper height

[tight laurel]

i mean, mid evo takes place 25 years after xy, so its actually the oldest out of the all assuming its the same hex maniac

[sweet crypt]

I mean, the old man is very ridiculously tall

[tight laurel]

he's only like 10ft at a high ball

tall for a dude yeah

but like, you mean to tell me that the pokemon who shaped the world is shorter than that

or like, just actual god

[sweet crypt]

I mean the arceus we see is just a tiny fragment

An Avatar of Arceus in a way

Think of it like how Darkseid from DC is so big that being in the main universe would destroy it

[tight laurel]

even still, the anime scaling is inf better, the godlike beings are like, actually large and threatening

[sweet crypt]

And how he'd have to use an avatar to actually exist in the universe

[sweet crypt]

Pokemon really doesn't like making Pokemon too big is something I've noticed

Kyogre is less than half the size of an average male orca and 9 times lighter

Pogre is the same size as the biggest orca documented, but still far lighter

[tight laurel]

yeah, anime does the scaling of pokemon sizes better, using the hoopa movie as a reference, palkia, dialga, groudon, regigigas and such are actually very large and threatening creatures, regigigas in that movie was like, half a skyscraper in height

[sweet crypt]

Actually not entirely sure if it's less than half the size may have been slightly more than half instead of vice versa

[tight laurel]

which makes sense lore wise

[sweet crypt]

OK, but the hoopa movie also implies Hoopa 3v1d Pdon, Pogre and Rayquaza

And 2v1d Palkia and Dialga, possibly a 3v1 with Giratina too

So I cannot take it seriously for the life of me

[tight laurel]

i mean, hoopa is disgustingly broken lore wise

[sweet crypt]

Maybe in the anime

In the games though all we know is that it can transport things

[tight laurel]

in terms of lore hoopa unbound is like, prob a top 5 pokemon

[sweet crypt]

But in the anime it fucking beats legendaries like literal Satan so hard that it mind controls them

[tight laurel]

tbf it also like, cheats, thats his whole gimmik is cheating

[sweet crypt]

In no logical way should any Pokemon not part of the creation trio whose name isn't Arceus be 1v1ing them at all

Let alone 3v1ing them

Ah yes let me just fucking beat the personification of time and space at the same time

[tight laurel]

it doesn't need to actually beat them to mind control, its a side effect of his portal

its why to win they couldnt just beat them, they had to seal hoopa

[sweet crypt]

Every time we see Hoopa using its portal, it's after it completely destroys a legendary to the point it can't resist

The implication is there

I mean yeah Cyrus was capable of restraining Dialga/Palkia with the red chain

But that's literally the entire purpose of the red chain

To restrain Dialga/Palkia

[tight laurel]

ah, so i googled it, its not mind control

[unkempt egret]

the AI in this game sometimes I stg

[sweet crypt]

That's like having a character named "Can kill God" that kills God

[tight laurel]

unbound hoopa is literally so angry that it can cause legendaries to go beserk

[unkempt egret]

intentionally avoided the confusion chance twice in favor of a weaker attack with no secondary chance

[sweet crypt]

Iirc the Berserk legendaries all never attacked Hoopa-U whatsoever

[unkempt egret]

also on size yea pokemon likes most of their sizes to be within a specific range

[sweet crypt]

That said I watches the movie like, when it was new iirc

So a long fucking time ago

[unkempt egret]

with... some outliers here and there (dondozo rofl)

[tight laurel]

and, hoopa unbound is so disgustingly broken that it can teleport things from anywhere in time, it genuinely is on par with actual gods

[sweet crypt]

Idk, if you asked me, I'd rather control space or time than be able to teleport

Actually, if Palkia could control space, why couldn't it just use the ability to control space to make portals as well?

Hmm...

[tight laurel]

as far as size goes, unbound hoopa in games in on par with mega gyrados, being tied for the tallest dark type, yet lore wise its the size of mountains and can make its rings be several miles wid

it literally teleported a castle from 3000 years in the past because it wanted the treasure it had

[sweet crypt]

Imagine if the protagonist didn't have heavy plot armour

Literally every single protagonist would be fucking dead

[tight laurel]

palkia is space
hoopa is hyperspace

[sweet crypt]

Tf do you mean hoopa is hyperspace

Hoopa thinks they're fucking Asriel Dreemurr

[tight laurel]

its signiture move that only it can learn is literally hyperspace fury

or hyperspace hole, depending on the form

[brisk hedge]

At least they’re not giving the Kanto starters new forms for the millionth time

[sweet crypt]

I feel like they literally just put Hyper there to sound cool

Because tf would Hyperspace even mean

[tight laurel]

charizard bouta hit you with mega Z

[brisk hedge]

Don’t even joke about that

[tight laurel]

its an actual term refering to a seperate dimension

[sweet crypt]

But yeah TLDR: I find Hoopa's portrayal in the movies to be absolutely fucking ridiculous

And almost definitely not representative of its actual lore power

Especially since the anime is known to heavily downscale other legendaries

Arceus' ass really be getting stopped by cement

Creation trio being stopped by normal ass Pokemon

[tight laurel]

i mean, even the games basically say the same thing, super mystery dungeon he would summon a random legendary or mythical that has a chance to be friendly or hostile

[unkempt egret]

I mean creation trio being stopped by normal ass mons is at least game accurate for what it's worth

[sweet crypt]

Game lore Arceus would no diff Anime lore Arceus

[sweet crypt]

Gameplay accurate sure

Game lore accurate?

Haha no

[unkempt egret]

gameplay and story separation at work

then again pokemon's gameplay and its lore are almost two entirely different things

[tight laurel]

i'll always be mad that hoopa, despite playing a major role in the post game of oras, was only obtainable through a event by going to watch the movie in theaters

[unkempt egret]

oh right I did miss that raid day last week rip

it was too cold out rofl

[tight laurel]

"Hoopa is at full power in its Unbound Form, it can increase the size of its six rings to grow multiple miles in length. These massive rings are capable of transporting entire islands through its hoops. Hoopa Unbound is capable of bending dimensions on an even more powerful scale" taken from bulbapedia, hoopa the goat fr fr

[sweet crypt]

If Pokemon gameplay was lore accurate 90% of the games would be impossible to beat

[tight laurel]

oh fs, lore accurate pokemon is insane

like, magcargo, a very forgetable pokemon, is literally the temperature of the sun

[unkempt egret]

oh yea things go really off the rails when numbers get involved, especially ones that are intended to be "some level of high" that way overshoot

[sweet crypt]

Multiversal Lanturn 🔥

[tight laurel]

ftl rotom moment

hell mr mime could prob solo goku

[sweet crypt]

Every time someone gets a new Pokemon game, another universe is created, upscaling Arceus even further

[tight laurel]

a F.E.A.R ratata or other weak pokemon could solo basically any verse

[sweet crypt]

Only if there isn't debris anywhere

Or if there isn't a ghost

Or if there isn't some guy with priority

Or if there isn't some guy with some form of damaging attackers

Or if there isn't some guy that tends to prefer multiple hits in quick succession

So basically FEAR is worthless

Just like in base Pokemon

[tight laurel]

mfw F.E.A.R is beaten by thorns 1

[tight laurel]

i mean, in terms of just regular gameplay, enough FEAR and you could win E4 with them, just bring a proper amount of revives

[sweet crypt]

Only if you have a ridiculous number of Focus Sashes

Except for like SV

Where they aren't consumable

[tight laurel]

focus sash is never consumable?

[sweet crypt]

God why didn't they make them non consumable in earlier gens

Iirc it is

Let me check rq

[tight laurel]

its always treated just like black belt and such

as far as i can remember at least

[brisk hedge]

They made focus sash non consumable?

[tight laurel]

it just had the caviat of only proc once during a battle, unlike sturdy

[sweet crypt]

Judging by Bulbapedia description, it is consumable until Gen 9

Where it procs once per battle but isn't consumed

[tight laurel]

really? who thought was a good mechanic?

[sweet crypt]

Gamefreak and nobody else

[tight laurel]

you only get like, maybe 2 a game too

although i never touched pvp until stuff like showdown

[brisk hedge]

The same people who thought of Galarien Yamask’s evolution method

[tight laurel]

it can't be as bad as turn the device upside down

[sweet crypt]

Do they know?

[brisk hedge]

You do know what Galarien Yamask’s evolution method is, right?

[tight laurel]

no, no i do not

[brisk hedge]

Google it

[tight laurel]

what

WHY

how do people even find these out

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fairly-odd-parents-timmy-turner-internet-swallow-gif-4277727

[sweet crypt]

Datamining probably

[unkempt egret]

japanese number pun that becomes complete nonsense in any other language

one of gen 8's favorite tropes lol

wouldn't be the only time gen 8 tied it to gameplay either considering basculegion also has one

what lucario?

[brisk hedge]

This one

[brisk hedge]

This one

[unkempt egret]

👍

today's been good for my packs tho

Imm not sure if arceus ex is even better or worse than the normal one considering how rare statuses feel

[tight granite]

First pack

[brisk hedge]

I got someone to trade me Weavile EX today, so I’m happy

Lol

[unkempt egret]

I can probably try to trade for a leafy EX lol

[jolly pumice]

I drew the incoming Pokemon Presents spoiler ||Old Fart AZ and his silly floette||

[brisk hedge]

||AZ being an old fart isn’t a spoiler, he’s over 3000 years old in X and Y||

[jolly pumice]

PFFT i mean if ppl havnt seen the presents yet

but your so right that isnt even a spoiler

||the fact he comes back kinda is tho ehe. and his redesign||

[tight granite]

i got 2 already

and only opend 3 packs

very sucky

cause its a double

after just 3 packs

[brisk hedge]

Oh, I thought you were calling the card bad

[tight granite]

i dont care about having 2 of those lul, lemme just finish the cards

[wispy osprey]

yeah i opened an arceus pack, my first one had a glaceon ex, and then i opened a 10 bundle and got another one

so now i have an art glaceon ex and also a normal glaceon ex

[tight granite]

even the 3 free ex cards didnt give me much

out of those 3 packs, only 1 was new Moltres Ex. The other was Wigglytuff and the last was another full animated art Mewtwo

also watching the direct now

looks like we getting megas in pocket

[wispy osprey]

no that part is the irl tcg

[tight granite]

never played tcg so no idea how that worls...but even then pocket is a very shrt version of tcg

[tight granite]

?

mega already existed for that tho

i mean i dont disagree with you

[wispy osprey]

they're back

[tight granite]

but..it did

[wispy osprey]

idk how the irl tcg works either

[tight granite]

it just says mega evolution is coming tho

not that its back

[brisk hedge]

I think they removed it for some stupid reason

[wispy osprey]

but megas weren't in new packs for the past few years

and now they will be? idk

[wispy osprey]

because mega audino was a mega rayquaza counter and that was stupid?

idk

[tight granite]

weird..well i mistook that then lul

[wispy osprey]

i obv could be wrong as well, but that was how i interpreted the direct

[tight granite]

right after the pocket segment they showed 2 mega cards and said megas are coming lul

[tight granite]

legends really said ||"hurting trainers in fights is fair game in this city"||

the new character designs are kinda meh so far

what is the point of the ||wild zones bruh, its still in a city, if you are gonna segregate pokemon off from others...why cant you atleast make it actually nature like, they are impirsioned in this zone unable to get into other parts of the city, why cant this specific area then not atleast be actual foresty||

i can alreday tell the new battling is gonna suck ass

the camera angels are gonna make everything so difficult

[jolly vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/zygarde-pokemon-pokemon-az-az-pokemon-z-gif-8211062115679659045

[tight granite]

and still looks kinda underdeveloped...tho it is a pokemon game..at this point thats the same as saying its finished

[jolly vapor]

idc I just hope there’s something new to shiny hunt

but only time will tell

[tight granite]

im just gonna play it for the story like all pokemon games. the battles are always a chore, but looks like specifically here it will be so much worse of a chore

[brisk hedge]

If you play Pokémon for the story, you must hate every game after Gen 5

[tight granite]

having to select out of 4 moves, pay attention to the distance and contantly dodge..all while dealing with a camera that follows the trainer meaning you will have so many moments where you cant see shit

just gonna button mash the same move

[tight granite]

sun was great, shield was ass didnt even finish that one, and violet atleast had characters that kept me in

[unkempt egret]

shield really is the metagame tutorial that fails to teach you about anything except 4v4 doubles and is a very dubious teacher of that

"born to battle sim forced to have a maingame"

[raven bison]

[untold hill]

lmao

nice hair

[waxen grail]

AZ gives me this vibe now

[raven bison]

Bro's chilling with his eternal floetta

[jagged inlet]

The windows are flat. All my disappointment is encapsulated in this image </3

[hard plume]

you know what's funny?
he reminds me a lot of frankenstein's monster

frankenstein is known as "The Modern Prometheus"

considering that AZ was the one that made the ultimate weapon, maybe he used the "A" legendary's power much like how Prometheus took fire from the gods

Victor frankenstein brought something to life, much like how AZ brought his Floette back from the dead

[raven bison]

[tight granite]

to be fair thats ingame stuff, the game is still in development, currently any graphics we see can not be used as a callout, wait for stuff we will see when it gets close to release

[waxen grail]

Windows don't even come to mind when I look at the trailer....

[green python]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6cadjbwYe0

Looks like another fangame went in a different direction

[mighty robin]

speaking of his role in the game, it raises another question of the game's timeline

then again, maybe not

yeah, nevermind

i was gonna bring up that Az was in team flare's prison, so then from legends za to xy, something happened and he got captured by team flare blah blah blah

but it slipped my mind that az didn't debut in xy in the prison in team flare's base, the player encounters him on route 13 for the first time

[radiant leaf]

Isn’t ZA after the gen 6 Kalos games tho?

[flint lagoon]

I watched that. the designs are so cool

[mighty robin]

i thought it's before xy

the city in development, or maybe that's changed

[radiant leaf]

Nah it looks to be after

[coarse estuary]

its not a fan game its a rom hack

[mighty robin]

development of lumiose city

[radiant leaf]

Could be a redevelopment

[radiant leaf]

Yeah, but it looks to be a modern development or redevelopment of the city

AZ also looks way older in ZA than xy

[mighty robin]

how can you tell though?

[mighty robin]

anyway, just posting this so we can see the difference between the two designs

[radiant leaf]

Using this as reference, his posture seems to be more crooked, he has a cane now, and has e flower floette, meaning it’s after the end of xy

As other parts of the city don’t line up with the time period of the war 3000 years ago

Like tech wise

[mighty robin]

he's 3,000+ years old, so if we just have a hypothetical exact age of him being 3,013 in xy, then his age in legends za could be lets say 3,025

something something being silly

he's way older than any normal human, so we can't really tell how old he is blah blah blah

[radiant leaf]

Plus I’m pretty sure the pokeballs in ZA are the more modern variety compared to PLA

[mighty robin]

there's a physical difference between someone in their 80's and someone in their 90's or older

so given az being 3,000+, how exactly can we tell he's getting older, lel

[radiant leaf]

Tbh most of the context clues come in the environment shown in the trailer

[green python]

That's actually far more impressive

[mighty robin]

also, the game better not have the difficulty of legends arceus

stopped playing after avalugg

[west gale]

ZA is set after XY because it’s shown during Pokémon presents that Lumiose city is under going urban redevelopment and the biggest factor is that AZ has his floette with him

[tight granite]

defintily after

[tight granite]

that never changed, the story was always that its a redesign of the city and now we know its to make the more city more tech-y with holograms and stuff while keeping a old style

and also its kinda clear its after considering ||AZ settled down and actually found his Floetta again||

[tight granite]

the game was super easy tho

in the whole game i died once, cause i fell down

i dunno why people memed so hard about paras being viscious, you can so easily dodge em

and stealth is a thing

only kinda hard battle was volo that one took me 3 tries

[mighty robin]

good thing i never got there

[flint lagoon]

I've died lots, but it was skill issues on my part pft

I am not good at reacting quickly

the Arcanine fight took me an hour

mostly cause I somehow missed a big detail in how you deal with a part of that fight

[raven bison]

||I can't imagine if floette doesn't want to go back to him on pokemon x/y ending. ||

[tight nacelle]

idk if yall do this here but i need help evolving my porygon in s/v

[unkempt egret]

alright I got the tera meow done

rather amusingly enough, using an arcanine

also I would help but I just hopped back onto gen 8

do you have gen 8 or should I hop back over to gen 9 to help

[tight nacelle]

i have gen 8 but i cant rlly transfer it to that one

[unkempt egret]

understandable, gimmie a second then

gonna do some more dex work, need to take a break from rogue legacy 2 rofl but yea hopping on gen 9 now

[tight nacelle]

alr

[unkempt egret]

5685 6328 is the code, in-game name is just Neo

[tight nacelle]

ok mine is Tato

[unkempt egret]

do you need this evolved twice or just once?

[tight nacelle]

i wanted to evolve it twice

if u want to help again

[unkempt egret]

I can yea

[tight nacelle]

lemme just give it the disc

k

same code?

[unkempt egret]

yea

also nice shiny gon

[tight nacelle]

ty

[unkempt egret]

oh uh

I think your porygon has a mark, could check what it is after we trade

hope it's somethin cool

[tight nacelle]

oh, really?

i didnt notice

lol i just got him

[unkempt egret]

yea I saw "title conferred" when I saw that

[tight nacelle]

tysm tho

its got the uncommon mark

neat

[gilded steppe]

Anyone here know the intricacies of the code of pokemon Emerald?

[unkempt egret]

nice nice, also not sure about the emerald bit

getting a shiny with the Destiny mark continues to elude me but I did get one with the uncommon mark on my birthday (a smolliv)

[tight nacelle]

tbh i dont know anything abt marks lmao

[unkempt egret]

it's just a fun little title you can put on the mon, think of it as kind of like a ribbon of sorts

they're mostly just set on a mon when you get them but some of the gen 9 ones can also be obtained on an existing mon like gourmand or itemfinder

[smoky gyro]

How does different language pokemon work, do I need someone in a foreign country? Do I need a copy of the game in a different language?

[coarse estuary]

you need someone from a different country

[smoky gyro]

So I cant just have 2 switches and do it myself

Sadness

[coarse estuary]

yeah unless you have one switch registered for 1 country and 1 for a different one

[brisk hedge]

Don't you choose the language at the start of the game? Or am I thinking of Sun and Moon

[coarse estuary]

you do but iirc its the region the actual switch is set into that determines the contry of origin for the pokemon not the game language

[proven geyser]

someway, somehow, i avoided overleveling and beat wallace with a weirdly solid team

(in modern emerald)

noct is psy/fly, clefable is fairy, and sect is bug/ghost

i ended up not even needing brick break on swamp for whats his face, i just moonblasted and leech life'd

[coarse estuary]

sucks a have to wait till tomorrow to start my platinum leg of my genlocke because i cant be assed to change my system clock to play tonight

[smoky gyro]

Doesnt that mean in theory I can bring my switch on my travels and make it work

Or does the switch have to be bought in that country

[coarse estuary]

no thats not how that works. how it works is say you boot up a brand new switch and select its region to be usa it will be usa then if you by another new switch and set its region to france it will be france. going to a nother country wont change what countery that was chosen when the switch was set up

this is why some youtubers have australian switches so they can get games a day early than the release in their country

[unkempt egret]

I think if it's for vivillon specifically you can choose what region you get for your save file in gens 6-7?

I recall doing that in a run of Y to get archipelago form for a run

I don't think that's useful anywhere since vivillon's pokedex color classification is the same for all forms prior to gen 9 (where you can use GO to do that)

[coarse estuary]

yeah but groceries is talking about trying to get a regional ditto for mesuda method

[unkempt egret]

checks* oh apparently making it per-color was a HOME chance, and I see

also this delibird refuses to show up in this raid den

[smoky gyro]

My question is whats stopping me from buying 2 switches here (in China), setting one to China, then setting the other to like..USA or something

Or do I need to do some weird verification shit

[coarse estuary]

absolutely nothing afaik

[smoky gyro]

Yea so technically I can still do masuda by myself

With enough money

[coarse estuary]

yep you can

[smoky gyro]

Good to know

Ty mate

[hard plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6cadjbwYe0
I swear to god if this was a fangame, we would play the shit out of it

....and if is, does anyone know the name???

[radiant leaf]

Huh, you’re the second person to bring this video up lol

[hard plume]

oh ok nvm got my answer

[coarse estuary]

im so excitted to try that game once it is released it looks fire

[radiant leaf]

It’s a rom tho right?

[coarse estuary]

yeah its a rom hack of fire red

[hard plume]

A lot of the designs here look really good

[coarse estuary]

yeah i was really shocked with how cool some looked and im excited to see some of the ones that werent in the video

[hard plume]

there's some especially clever ones
like ||how charizard evolves to become too heavy to fly so it becomes a water type later on||
or ||how kangaskhan's kid uses the bones of its mother as weapons||

[coarse estuary]

yeah im defo excited and will love the replay value the game will have

[hard plume]

AND ||JYNKIES||

||SHE LOOKS LIKE GLACIE||

[coarse estuary]

a 100 we have glacia at home moment

[waxen grail]

I've had a handful of shadow pokemon actually snap back to reality when in hyper mode during my current Colo playthru. The chances of them doing that is 1/256...

Then the next turn they go right back to hyper mode

[raven bison]

Bro is happy now.

[brisk hedge]

Isn’t hyper mode FUN

[torn bone]

Finally got the "beautiful" feminine-like regional variant mons and polished for battles for this pokemon game:

Pokemon Soulstones 2

[civic grove]

its okay game… you can stop now throwing god at me

[raven bison]

The game is finished or not? Thanks in advance.

[halcyon canyon]

Pls give me the official discord server of indigo league game

[smoky gyro]

Today I learnt that fire fang hits past wonder guard in gen 4 for some reason

[vital flare]

Arent they bug type?

[torn bone]

finished but no post game yet

[raven bison]

[sweet crypt]

Starting to see a rise in Gen 7 hate

The cycle continues

[brisk hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/why-persian-room-cat-guardian-but-why-trendizisst-anyaboz-gif-2156104475561014590

[sweet crypt]

How many years do you give for Gen 7 to become universally loved?

[sweet crypt]

Good question

[brisk hedge]

Depends on how bad the upcoming Pokémon games are

[sweet crypt]

I've just accepted that Pokemon games will start hated and become beloved

That said, Gen 7 isn't that hated

[brisk hedge]

I feel like Gen 5 started getting love when the series started to go down in quality

[sweet crypt]

Which is why I was surprised by a rise in hate

I thought Gen 7 escaped from this cycle but there's some regression here

[brisk hedge]

TBF, there is one Gen 7 game that absolutely deserves hate

The Alola games are good though

[boreal storm]

Why don't just bro join the nba

Art by Delatoid in Twitter

I like the idea of Hex slowly corrupt and turning into the RSE Hex

[supple creek]

You are not immune to ghost type propaganda.

[unkempt egret]

I am not immune to pikachu propaganda tho

11/14/7 which is... okay?

[wispy osprey]

Alola is PEAK

I’m playing through them for the first time

Sun is already in contention for being my favorite game and Ultra Sun is just that but more, which I am a huge sucker for, so it will almost certainly end up being my favorite decisively

and I firmly believe the alolan Pokédex (new Pokemon and regional forms) is the best of any generation so far

the new designs for alola all go so hard

[sweet crypt]

Gen 7 statistically has my 2nd favourite roster of Pokemon

(Based on pure vibes I had it tied for 1st with Paldea and Unova)

It took ages to get stats on this lmao

[coarse estuary]

im so excited to have 2 generation 4 champs. i really hope my eevee and blastoise champs can make it to gen 5

[unkempt egret]

...right I forgot how bad the max raid battle AI was with some mons

that was I'm pretty sure 28 straight support moves from the other three mons

(well one was a luxray with a mono-electric moveset and the other was a maractus that used accupressure 9 times then deleted the ENTIRE HEALTH BAR on turn 10 with a leaf storm)

not even here for a legend I just want a dang electabuzz rofl

alright I got the buzz the boss can obliterate me now

also I got a shiny deerling in GO but it's like rock bottom stats

at least it'll make good trade fodder since it's the winter form so anyone who wants that form can't get it again until december unless they plan on traveling to the southern hemmisphere in june-august

[unkempt egret]

eevee in unova will be interesting since you get access to 6/7 of its forms by the time you get to pinwheel forest (glaceon, of course, being the exception)

[coarse estuary]

yeah but the only ones id want are umbreon or espeon

[unkempt egret]

understandable, and those are both the most easily accessable ones

[brisk hedge]

Where do you get water, thunder and fire stones before Pinwheel forest?

[unkempt egret]

(probably esp since most of unova's other psychics are a bit on the slow side outside of sigilyph)

[unkempt egret]

those rumbling patches in caves can sometimes drop stones but I recall it being rare

I forget how long it took for the thunderstone in my speed run but I recall it being a while even with speed=up

[coarse estuary]

its just hard because in my genlocke i have a rule of i cant use the same eeveelution 2 games in a row so whatever one i use in this current leg i cant use in unova

[unkempt egret]

aaah I see

ROFL

the boss of the den is kartana

we somehow won that

I dunno why I'm even catching this thing I stg if it's shiny

ok no shinies but that's electabuzz down

that's three more I need from dynamax adventures (wartortle, cradily, and dragonair)

ROFL

next round, wartortle on the very first battle

[wispy osprey]

because Kartana is AWESOME obv

[unkempt egret]

understandable (it wasn't shiny tho)

it was more that I needed buzz for the dex entry (going for the shiny keledo)

[unkempt egret]

it may be cold af outside but that's one hundo in the book! (deerling winter form)
edit*
nevermind there's a second one with a rosa visor pikachu

[coarse estuary]

ok just hacked my champs and candies in. time to start leg 4 of the genlocke

[unkempt egret]

nice nice

you running D/P or plat?

also I should have had a crash counter for GO since man is it crashing a lot today

[coarse estuary]

im runnin plat

[unkempt egret]

[boreal storm]

Shiny Hex

Arts by MidnyteSketch

[unkempt egret]

kinda reminds me of the gym challengers from gen 8 for some reason

[waxen grail]

every time I see PoGo characters I gag...they look so uncanny

[supple creek]

RIGHT

THEYRE SO BLOATED AND UGLY

the old ones were better

[boreal storm]

Melony

https://tenor.com/view/melony-pokemon-shield-battle-gif-27193029

[boreal storm]

What is PoGo characters?

[unkempt egret]

Pokemon GO

basically they revised the player character models last... april I think and very few people liked the new designs

[wispy osprey]

hey at least professor Willow is still hot

that’s something

[unkempt egret]

yea the NPCs weren't affected it's just the players themselves that got changed

also speaking of GO

kyurem messing with the weather and making it COLD but decent day 1 haul for being ticketless

went from 45 degrees F all the way down to 20 in the span of last night

[untold hill]

hm yes, I completely get u

[hoary gale]

Something incredible happened, I wiped cynthia in pkmn platinum with my own garchomp

It was amazing lmao

[smoky gyro]

Shedinja is but apparently if you give wonder guard to another mon (like trace ralts) fire fang still hits through it

[vital flare]

That sounds confusing

[distant badge]

What name of pokemon game that adds more evos gen 1

[vital lance]

pokemon: evolved i think

[distant badge]

Oh

[vital lance]

but its not out yet

[distant badge]

Thanks

[vital lance]

the one point crow played right?

[distant badge]

Ya

[vital lance]

yea its not out

[distant badge]

Wasnt in description

[vital lance]

yea it gets confusing

he never links it

[distant badge]

Do they have discord

[wispy osprey]

honestly i never found cynthia as hard as people say she is

my biggest problem in platinum was Lucian by far

i wiped like 6 times

probably more

i got to cynthia twice; first time i didn't have enough healing items because i had used them all to beat lucian and second time i beat her

[hard plume]

from what I heard from #general I think it's ok to post it here since it is pokemon related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqUX-SxDyuw
it's not a fangame, though.
.......but dammit I wish it was

[sweet crypt]

Saw someone point out that there have been 2 Fire/Ghost types in a row and now I want Emboar to become Fire/Ghost because that'd be fucking hilarious

[smoky gyro]

Annihilape 2.0

[unkempt egret]

if we don't count the gen 8 starters (which were three monotypes) then the last time one of the starters didn't become a dark type was gen 5

(I guess cinderace can technically become dark if it has snarl or sucker punch with protean liberio)

[sweet crypt]

Nobody has ever counted Protean or Libero as a Pokemon having a type that it doesn't

Unless they're making a joke

[unkempt egret]

hence the technically and why I didn't count it lol

[sweet crypt]

Something something Meowscarada is Weavile 3

Something something uhhhh

[unkempt egret]

as opposed to the actual weavile 2 which instead decided to be toxicroak 2

[sweet crypt]

I think that's the only joke anyone has ever made that involves Protean changing types

Ah well

Actually tbf Meowscarada is probably just Weavile 2

Since Chien Pao wouldn't be Weavile 2, it would be Mega Weavile

[hard plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrCOMIgn7lg
thought some of you pokemon tcg pocket players would enjoy this one

[wispy osprey]

words cannot express my rage right now

i just spent irl 30 minutes trying to catch a beldum that i randomly ran into (playing US)

i had it low and paralyzed

and nothing would catch it

and then it used struggle once and died

i am LIVID

i didn't even think it would happen because i didn't think wild pokemon had PP

[coarse estuary]

yeah i think starting in gen 2 wild and opponent mons got pp so they couldnt spam things like wrap or leer or spore or whatever infinitely

[quaint vine]

Rare pulls from new packs

In pokemon tcgp

[unkempt egret]

nice nice

I pulled a rainbow myself but it was mismagius's

late but rip on the beldum but understandable since beldum is, as a species, THE hardest pokemon to catch in the maingames

since it has a catch rate of 3 and only has one recoil move (also yea gen 1 opponents didn't have PP at all which did serve as a way to counter item-stalling but yea more often than not resulted in status moves being used forever)

[hard plume]

oh my sweet summer child
all pokemon have pp

and beldum has a low catch rate

[wispy osprey]

it was at 5% hp and paralyzed tho 😭 and I had ultra balls 😭

I’m more mad that it knocked itself out before I could throw all my poke balls at it honestly

like, the not catching it I can get

but the knocking itself out before I have used all my shots? get out of here

[delicate hollow]

Oh God (Arceus) so Red and Blue came out in the UK since October 1999 when I was a 12 year old kid? I didn't get Blue until 2000 after visiting Canada while on holiday as I bought the Canadian version which kind of cheats, but I did get Yellow version in the UK though

[digital root]

yeah, same as most legendary pokemon isnt that fun

[brisk hedge]

That guy’s lucky the shadow realm doesn’t exist in the Pokémon TCG (though horrible luck is what he gets for using Charizard)

[brisk hedge]

Welcome to trying to catch a wild Beldum

[hard plume]

unfortunately this is not gen 8/gen 9 so getting master balls is going to be extremely difficult.
We hope you enjoy your stay.

[lucid gulch]

I also got rare pull on new tcg pack

[coarse estuary]

gym 2 down

[frank lily]

These Go Tour events are getting stripped down more and more with each year. At this point, why even bother with them if they aren’t even going to have increased shiny odds anymore

[raven bison]

Can you tell me what's the name of the title please?

[unreal bridge]

diamond/pearl/platinum

[raven bison]

I thought it was romhack/fan game or smth. I didn't play those game yet. Maybe later.

[coarse estuary]

add it to the tally of people thinking gens 4-5 are romhacks or fangames

[raven bison]

Man the picture it's blur. Plus I didn't grow up with nintendo. I grew up playing Playstation & PSP Games. I have no idea cuz I haven't play diamond pearl yet.

[coarse estuary]

ok and thats my fault how

[raven bison]

No one said it was your fault.

[coarse estuary]

well it came across to me as if you were blaming me for you not knowing what game it was and that it was official

[unreal bridge]

to me he only seemed to give a reason to not know/recognize the games.

he did not mention or point any sentence towards you except that its an answer to your comment

[coarse estuary]

gym 3 down. first death of this leg is staravia

[simple oxide]

The white Kyurem is fused with a lucky because i did a random trade for the background and it luckied

[limpid gate]

anyone recommend a fangame w a really good story and preferably no fakemons? (I'm okay with regional variants)

i'm also trying to avoid incomplete games

[coarse estuary]

so easy

[unkempt egret]

didn't get out much today since laundry + even colder than yesterday but total ticketless haul

the scyther was from a grunt and its ivs are not good rofl

[wispy osprey]

I mean, I’ve basically only heard good things about Infinite fusion and I’m really excited to play it myself, idk if that qualifies as “no fakemon” since the fusions are all of real pokemon

[unkempt egret]

if you don't mind romhacks then kanto black is a nice "canon game but x" hack

(in this case, gen 1 with gen 5 mons and some bonus gen 6 mons on sevii islands)

on another note

yoooo that card I was waaanting

[thick sorrel]

HELP

pls

pokedex

https://pkmnquiz.com/join/MQ2LF8

[coarse estuary]

wake was almost scary because the brine before i beat floatzel crit, lucky for me nothing died

[wispy osprey]

we did it chat

[thick sorrel]

LETS GOOOOOO

YOU CAMPED LAST POKEMON

[thick sorrel]

YOU HELPED US TOO

THE 2 GOAYS

[wispy osprey]

i didnt i swear 😭

[coarse estuary]

i gost most of them gen 5 mons as i knew 90% of yall would forget em as most people say gen 5 is their least fave gen

[wispy osprey]

i just happened to remember falinks at the same time another person remembered whatever the second to last pokemon was

[wispy osprey]

which is a shame, the gen 5 games are so good

[coarse estuary]

it is always a shame i have to brace myself whenever i post anything gen 5 related because without fail someone either says play a better game or remove x mon from my team

[thick sorrel]

Do you guys know any pokemon b and w online?

[wispy osprey]

if someone told me to play a better game when i was playing gen 5 my immediate response would be to switch to an alola game and i feel like most people would get even more mad at that 💀

[sweet crypt]

Still wondering why these evil masterminds follow the rules of turn based combat 1v1s

[coarse estuary]

id do that too as its funny but i recently beat ultra moon without dealing direct damage so im all alolad out

[sweet crypt]

Props to Ghetsis though, he actually did more than Pokemon battle, he actually tried to murder your ass

[wispy osprey]

my favorite games atm are Black 2 and Sun, although playing through Ultra Sun and i think it is better

massive sucker for things that are a previous game but more of it (see also: heartgold and omega ruby)

[sweet crypt]

Also in my defence whenever I'd recommend replacing a Pokemon it's because it sucks in battle not because I personally hate it

And tbh battle prowess is worth nothing in main line Pokemon since 99% of fully evolved Pokemon perform at a high enough level anyways

[coarse estuary]

yeah when i play i try to use mons that ive never used and thus i dont care if it sucks. like in this black 2 save i have there is a golduck and an audino on my team i love using but those 2 are the mons people clown on for me using

[sweet crypt]

Hey, Audino has Regenerator, that's a very solid ability

It also has the movepool of a Gen 1 Normal type

[coarse estuary]

on the topic of gen 5 i think when i get to gen 5 leg of my genlocke ima watch my favorite gen 5 lp of all time

[sweet crypt]

Whenever I play B2W2, I always go out of my way to catch the set encounter Volcarona ASAP

Because moth

👍

Praise the moth

[wispy osprey]

when i was playing BW i was using scolipede on my initial e4 team and it was a banger

and then i caught the volcarona before going back and it was so good

[coarse estuary]

i dont think ive ever used a volc in a bw playhtough i have though hacked one in for a kalos playthough once

[wispy osprey]

that pokemon singlehandedly taught me the value of setup moves

quiver dance moth go brrrrrrrr

[sweet crypt]

If someone brings up Quiver Dance, there's a good chance that the first Pokemon they think of is Volcarona

[wispy osprey]

the only other pokemon that i can think of that learns it is Lilligant

[sweet crypt]

It's probably the best Pokemon when it comes to using Quiver Dance

[wispy osprey]

because there's one random NPC double battle in SM and USUM that has a quiver dance lilligant and a prankster tailwind whimsicott and its so annoying

[sweet crypt]

Pheromosa is more broken, but it can't really use QD well

Every moth and butterfly Pokemon excluding Iron Moth, Slither Wing and probably some other random mf I'm forgetting can learn Quiver Dance

Alongside some other bug types like Wormadam and Ribombee

[wispy osprey]

ribombee learns quiver dance

i think

[sweet crypt]

As well as Lilligant, Oricorio and Bellossom

[wispy osprey]

why lilligant

like oricorio learns every dance move sure whatever

bellossom dances sure ig

[sweet crypt]

Lilligant is probably somewhat based on dancing

[coarse estuary]

and i like using q dance on ribombee

[sweet crypt]

Though it's really only obvious to me on Hisuian Lilligant

[wispy osprey]

i cant wait for my ribombee to learn quiver dance in my US playthrough

its gonna be so fun

[sweet crypt]

Who gets a physical variant of Quiver Dance, due to being a physical attacker

[coarse estuary]

if you want you can use pkhex or something to give you all 100 totem stickers for a totem sized one

[wispy osprey]

im attached to the one i have now

i have a very deep emotional connection to Pearl

i couldn't hack that away

[coarse estuary]

i always love using totem sized poemon as all that changes is the size lol

[wispy osprey]

and that would mean i stop being encouraged to find totem stickers

which at least to me, is so fun

[coarse estuary]

thats fair but after i got all 100 in 2 seperate playthroughs i just decided to hack em in in any future playthrough if i wanted to use a totem mon

[sweet crypt]

I think my least scuffed first playthrough team is probably my B2W2 one

[wispy osprey]

like, it doesnt mean much if you're not going to use them but there's something so satisfying about going around and finding the little sparkling things on the walls and whatnot

[sweet crypt]

I'm very proud of my B2W2 team actually

I think it's pretty damn good

[wispy osprey]

my b2w2 team had a special attacking lucario

is that scuffed or fine

[sweet crypt]

Weakest link was probably Samurott but that's the starter so like

[sweet crypt]

Lucario is a mixed attacker (though since my ass only thinks in Competitive I always run only one attacking stat)

So you're fine

[wispy osprey]

it had calm mind, aura sphere, flash cannon, and shadow ball or dragon pulse i dont remember

it was INSANELY GOOD

[sweet crypt]

Mixed attackers in Competitive do exist but they're more so physical/special attackers with one move not matching their preferred attacking stat

[smoky gyro]

Does Unaware also ignore opponent stat drops? Like if I hit it with a parting shot does it still treat it like its -0, and if they use CC does that treat it like they didnt get def drops

[sweet crypt]

Yes

That's the fun part about Unaware

It is undoubtedly an extremely potent ability, but it does have its drawbacks

[smoky gyro]

I always thought it ignored boosts but not drops

That would be ridiculously busted

[sweet crypt]

Even while ignoring drops its still one of the best abilities of all time

[smoky gyro]

Absolutely

[sweet crypt]

And only really outcompeted by other ridiculously busted abilities cough cough Magic Guard cough cough

Magic Guard is just absurd, it turns itself into the only option on a Pokemon even if they have abilities like Tinted Lens, Unaware or Regenerator

[smoky gyro]

It doesnt feel that busted

[sweet crypt]

(Sigilyph, Clefable and Reuniclus respectively)

[wispy osprey]

let me think back on my teams which ones weren't weird
firered: i used hypno instead of starmie what was i cooking
heartgold: i used heracross out of stubbornness, bad idea do not use it i regret it deeply
emerald: why do they give you rayquaza at level 70 before the elite four
platinum: i used pachirisu out of spite because i didnt want to use luxray because "it was boring" that was scuffed
black: pretty normal actually, making no previous pokemon available encourages a normal team who wouldve thunk
black 2: also pretty normal all things considered
y: lanturn was the surprise MVP. yes, lanturn. it popped off for some reason
omega ruby: i used sandslash, hariyama, and crawdaunt. what was i doing
sun: i think my team was pretty normal, alolan muk is fair right

[smoky gyro]

I'd prefer sheer force tbh cause that also ignores life orb dmg

[sweet crypt]

Though the fun part is this time if you get caught off guard you aren't facing someone with a niche ability

You're facing mf Tinted Lens, Unaware or Regenerator

[smoky gyro]

In singles I can see it being good but in doubles harzards doesnt really exist

[sweet crypt]

Yeah I'm mostly speaking from Singles perspective here

Immunity to Hazards, immunity to Toxic, immunity to Life Orb chip, immunity to Burn chip (when all of the abusers are special attackers)

And for some reason in earlier generations you're also immune to full paralysis

It really is insane the more you think about it

[coarse estuary]

do we think surf can sweep buxton? (for those who dont watch mlb baseball i mean gym leader byron)

[sweet crypt]

Depends on your Surfer

[coarse estuary]

rn my surfer is my 3 time rewareded champ blastoise

[sweet crypt]

Magneton isn't weak to Surf, but it has low Special bulk

Be wary of Metal Burst on Bastiodon though

I'm going off the Platinum team btw

[coarse estuary]

i think a + special attack 31 iv in special attack surf from a blast can ohko it but idk

[sweet crypt]

Mainly because I'm instantly assuming you're playing Platinum because it's just better than DP

[coarse estuary]

i am im not a phycopath

[sweet crypt]

Blastoise may be able to tank a Tbolt

Though I personally wouldn't be confident enough to test that theory

[hard plume]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-rivers-count-gif-23325353

[sweet crypt]

Magneton undoubtedly has high SpA

And that is a STAB Thunderbolt

[coarse estuary]

i can always swap to one of my 2 ground types for ton if i need too

[sweet crypt]

But Blastoise is quite specially bulky

[sweet crypt]

Tbh sweeping with a ground type would be the safest option

[coarse estuary]

would it be better to use my starter or the one time champ camerupt

[sweet crypt]

What is your other Ground type?

Because Steelix is, in fact, a Ground type

You could probably just idk

[coarse estuary]

the starter as i said

[sweet crypt]

Swap to Blastoise to KO it

[sweet crypt]

Torterra would probably be the best bet

Though even with a quad SE Earthquake I still wouldn't take the risk vs Bastiodon

[coarse estuary]

i mean on something physical i could always set up with curse

[sweet crypt]

Yeah that makes sense

Apparently the Steelix has Ice Fang though so uhh

Neither of your Ground types are safe from Steelix

So probably just swap to Blastoise to KO it if possible

[coarse estuary]

though the moment something on my current team dies im swapping in my 3 time champ eevee to get an umbreon so i can use espeon in gen 5 leg (assuming i dont lose this leg and have to start all the way over)

[sweet crypt]

For Bastiodon, only attack once you are sure you can finish it off since Metal Burst is terrifying as hell

It has Iron Defence and Taunt so you can't set up Curses with Torterra on it

[coarse estuary]

i could always seed it

[sweet crypt]

I would definitely not take the gamble of trying to OHKO it from full

[sweet crypt]

You have Leech Seed?

[coarse estuary]

mmhmm

[sweet crypt]

Yeah that's probably the safest option

Stall it out with Leech Seed or something while you have a Pokemon wall it

Bastiodon's only threat is Metal Burst

If Torterra is your Leech seeder you could probably beat the gym with only it and Blastoise tbh

[coarse estuary]

yeah im just nervous because its my best run of the genlocke ive ever had and i dont want one of my 2 longest living champs to die when its not needed and i think it would be cool if a mon or 2 survived from gen 1 or 2 to gen 7 the final leg

[sweet crypt]

It should be capable of beating Magneton and Bastiodon pretty easily unless it misses Leech Seed and gets Taunted

Despite Bastiodon being mostly hot garbage seeing it in any casual setting puts the fear of god in me

Since usually you just set up on its ass and OHKO it since it got chipped by hazards and lost Sturdy

[coarse estuary]

good thing its pre gen 5 sturdy

[sweet crypt]

But you just don't really use hazards in a playthrough and I don't often bring setup moves either

[sweet crypt]

I was gonna say

It is effectively abiltiless vs you

But it still has that big Defence stat

(And SpD too)

And it has ways to shut down your setup, though for it to do so in a way where it could land a good Metal Burst is admittedly small

But if it isn't 0% in a nuzlocke it is gonna happen instantly and fuck you over

Heck, if you're me, as long as it would be unfortunate, it will happen, nuzlocke or not

I would know since I don't even nuzlocke

[coarse estuary]

i mean in the fog route i had a battle where both me and the oppoent missed a combined 10 moves in a row

[sweet crypt]

Was playing Pokerogue yesterday and this exact thing happened to me except over the course of those few turns I was the only one missing

[wispy osprey]

remember kids, if a move isn't 100% accurate it's 50% accurate

[sweet crypt]

Unfortunate is my middle name

My last name is Lavos

[wispy osprey]

(except flying press for some reason, my hawlucha has not missed a single flying press in US so far and i've clicked it at least 30 times)

[sweet crypt]

Idk, Play Rough's 90% seems accurate

Well, if it was describing miss rate

But still!

[wispy osprey]

never used play rough, dazzling gleam and moonblast for life 😎 no missing for me

who needs physical fairy types anyway

[sweet crypt]

Neither Tapu Koko nor Tapu Bulu learn Play Rough, but both Tapu Lele and Tapu Fini do

Not only is the move jank in terms of actually using it

But it is also jank in terms of learnset

It also has nowhere near enough award

90 BP is what I'd expect from a move with 100% accuracy

[wispy osprey]

which is robbery from one of my favorite silly guys

[urban willow]

Anyone a good digital artist

[wispy osprey]

tapu koko deserves better

[sweet crypt]

And don't you dare say that the inaccuracy is to make up for the 10% chance to drop attack

Since Ice Beam has that same 10%

But for the most broken status effect in all of Pokemon

With the same BP

And Moonblast has 5 more BP, with a 30% chance to lower SpA

And both of these moves have perfect accuracy

[urban willow]

Anyone a good digital artist if so Dm me

[sweet crypt]

BTW, back to this

Imagine if Chien-Pao and Ting Lu didn't have any physical Dark STAB, no Crunch, no Throat Chop, nothing

But Chi-Yu and Wo Chien (the latter of which is tbf only kind of primarily special since its a 10 bst difference) had all the best physical Dark moves

Seems exaggerated? Well, it kind of is, since Dark actually has more than 2 options for physical moves

Fairy has Spirit Break and Play Rough

And they are both kinda garbage tbh

And the only reason I can mention Spirit Break is because technically it was distributed to a Pokemon that wasn't Grimmsnarl in Gen 9

But only one, being Iron Valiant

So we have a move that 2 whole Pokemon learn, a move that really could use better distribution

... And a move only learnt by the fucking starmobile

And the former 2 are ass

I have 0 clue how many times I have ranted about this

But like

I think this is a reasonable thing to be mad at

Because why on earth do we have 3 physical fairy moves while including the one that is only learnt by an unobtainable story boss

[urban willow]

Anyone a good digital artist if so Dm me asap

[wispy osprey]

actually, since you're a competetive player... what are your thoughts on pokemon champions

[sweet crypt]

I doubt it'd overtake Showdown

[wispy osprey]

what if vgc and the other competetive formats got permanently moved to it

[sweet crypt]

To me, it sounds like you have to use sample sets or build your Pokemon in other games before moving them over via HOME

[wispy osprey]

you think so?

hm

[sweet crypt]

Also, apparently it's starting with a limited roster

That's what the trailer made it sound like

[wispy osprey]

i mean, every game has a limited roster nowadays