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safe vapor
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Idk if that fits what you want

analog timber
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yeah those are fine

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just want to help making card arts while im waiting for rreactions in spritework

safe vapor
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sure

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fml file is too big

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lemme find tomate's file

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also, it's for Gimp

analog timber
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thanks. yeah ive been using gimp for like 12 years by now thats not a biggie lol

safe vapor
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oki catJam

prime smelt
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yeah, I think this works well for ghost types

analog timber
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take 400 LP damage to your opponent 9head

prime smelt
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oops xD

analog timber
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isnt the search effect too easy to get? 🤔

prime smelt
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I was thinking of increasing it to "more than 800" for pikachu

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guess we'll see once aegide tries out his deck

analog timber
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the way it is its just guaranteed i think it should require more than the card itself to get the search

prime smelt
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it's not guaranteed

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there need to be 2 mons in order to get "more than" 400

analog timber
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nvm im dumb

prime smelt
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this guy is fun

analog timber
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finally a use for omanyte ohyes

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shouldnt all the omanyte and kabuto fusions have the "or 1 fossil monster" part?

prime smelt
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Thats part of the text in Fossil Fusion

analog timber
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just wondering because im sure you had specified in some fusion

prime smelt
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did I?

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Let me check

analog timber
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you might have changed it already since I saw it the last time

prime smelt
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oops, no youre right

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I did it for the first fusion and then instantly forgot xD

analog timber
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but you could also just make it easier on everyone by making the fossil traps change their names while they are monsters

prime smelt
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yeah, that sounds better

thick seal
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I can't wait

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@prime smelt Could you post the link for card suggestions again pls?

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nvm sorry pain

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I'm trying to design cards for Tyrogue and its fusions rn

prime smelt
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added it to the oldest pin

thick seal
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Tyrogue
Type: Fighting
You can tribute this card to summon one of the following monsters:

  • Hitmonlee if this monster is in attack position
  • Hitmonchan if this monster is in defense position
  • Hitmontop if this monster has changed its position this turn
    You cannot normal summon during the turn you use this effect.

ATK: 1500
DEF: 1500

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Posting it here before putting it in the gallery huehue

prime smelt
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love it

thick seal
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Can we somehow help editing/putting cards in the game? Or do you want the only one to be able to do that Tomate?

analog timber
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i thought it would be something more like "if this cards ATK is higher than its Def you can tribute this card to special summon Hitmonlee from your hand or deck" and so on for the others but that seems fine too

prime smelt
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How about: 0 atk 0 def. This card gains 500 ark for every fighting monster on the field and 500 def for every fighting monster in your hand. you can tribute this card to summon lee if atk highest, chan if def highest, top if equal

thick seal
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Maybe give him 1000 base atk/def?

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Other than that, good idea

prime smelt
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idk

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2000 atk with only 2 monsters seems a bit too much

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for such a little dude

thick seal
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What if it doesn't count itself? Doesn't seem too bad then

prime smelt
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hmm

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yeah

thick seal
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Maybe I am just used to super high power because of 1800ATK geodude thisclown

prime smelt
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instant nerf to 1600

thick seal
shut gale
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could we make a spreadsheet with the already ingame cards?

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ideally hosted by @prime smelt is suppose

prime smelt
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I mean... the best and always up to date database is obviously duelingbook

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also, the boys are here

thick seal
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takes so long to look through that Despair

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Ohh did you design the other 3 alrdy?

prime smelt
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yea george

thick seal
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POOG

prime smelt
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no fusions of them till tomorrow tho

shut gale
thick seal
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Oh wow, our designs are very different thisclown

shut gale
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cycling through all in either their update order or alphabetically is just a mess

thick seal
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I was about to make them 7 stars thisclown

prime smelt
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hmm

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I have an idea

thick seal
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Biggest problem is that duelbooks has a shit sorting feature

analog timber
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i cant open the card bg file because its xcf version 11 Despair

celest pawn
prime smelt
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hey katten, can you make me a docs like your picture one?

celest pawn
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yee

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i can edit my post to have all the docs in it

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does that sound good

prime smelt
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ye

analog timber
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is there another source for the cardart bg files?

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i dont want to update my gimp lie

prime smelt
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katten can send you the individual pngs

analog timber
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that works too

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@celest pawn very please lie🙏

celest pawn
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check pins allthethings

analog timber
celest pawn
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@prime smelt btw u can plop down ur designs in the folder aswell, to keep track of em

rose portal
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Cant wait to play with these cards

prime smelt
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thats the plan

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I'll try to keep that database up to date

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especially the base mon one

thick seal
prime smelt
thick seal
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nice

analog timber
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nice

shut gale
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mhmmhmh....but a spritesheet would be cleaner

prime smelt
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but I'm not gonna maintain a spreadsheet

shut gale
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but an image folder? well the images are created anyways i suppose

thick seal
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Thankfully you can just type in the name of the mon and find it in the game

prime smelt
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it would be easier if you could filter my cards without putting "TomateEpic" in the decs box. cuz that desc box is quite helfpull for searching for stuff. like all cards that mention 1 specific type

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but not sure if there is another way

shut gale
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given a proper naming convention of said images, i could hack up a quick script to maintain a spreadsheet i suppose

prime smelt
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aside from spells and traps they do have their correct IF style file names

thick seal
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Anyone down? stare

prime smelt
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yeah

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but only 2 rounds

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a little burned out right now xD

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@thick seal

thick seal
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yeees

analog timber
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silphscope 👀

thick seal
prime smelt
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nice

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adde ich morgen

shut gale
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so burned out he starts talking german lmao

analog timber
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😂

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Viridian Forest 👀

shut gale
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sweet

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as a pdf for now, so its all at a glance (more or less), no fusions yet included, but the idea is to have rather weak fusions which are supplemented by the "possed object type"

analog timber
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Victory Road card, couldnt find a good mon to put on here maybe someone else can, but i think its fine w/o too

last cargo
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So, how do you actually play this :)

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I wanna try it ^^

rose portal
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U tryna duel red

thick seal
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I just had the most insane game against Tomate holy shit

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Can I somehow save replays on this?

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^ The second game is what's the really insane one

last cargo
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Alright finished my deck heres hoping it works alright! Not the best at building decks

thick seal
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I'll have to do some stuff, we can duel tomorrow if you'd like :)

last cargo
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Alright!

rose portal
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Gotta make a deck

analog timber
rose portal
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: o

analog timber
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and you didnt pay the cost for Substitute sadbro

rose portal
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: 0

prime smelt
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pretty sure sandlem also triggered twice in the final turn, but I was dead anyway 😂

obsidian dome
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i don't know how to play yu-gi-oh but this looks interesting

prime smelt
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Katten appearently doesnt either, but she sure is motivated to make artworks for us xD

analog timber
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and Tomate chained Champion to Dna Splicer instead of chaining it to the sandlem summon Despair

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no, because Counter doesn't target 👀

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Substitute can only draw the target of a card that is after it in its chain if that card doesnt target at activation but while its resolving

prime smelt
analog timber
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yeah. to fusion summon. not to cards that would fusion summon

prime smelt
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oh thats what you mean

analog timber
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you must chain it when sandlem enters the field

prime smelt
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I just activated it a bit early xD

analog timber
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because a) thats how the wording says and b) thats better for you evil

prime smelt
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tru

analog timber
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Ether card

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Spirit Medium card

noble moon
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"non-pokemon" trollremains

rose portal
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This is Yugioh

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Totally

analog timber
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we were told to go here ._.

rose portal
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I’m about to make a deck

noble moon
rose portal
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Also like

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It would confuse a lot of people

prime smelt
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good

thick seal
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Welp, if the opponent doesn't notice it's not cheating I guess thisclown

wooden bloom
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XD

thick seal
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Sorry tomate sadbro

rose portal
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im tryna duel anyone want to

analog timber
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Gym Challenge card

rose portal
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pOkeMoN rElaTeD iMaGe

analog timber
tranquil stone
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Why the heck so much Pokemon related stuff in this channel

rose portal
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blame the peeps

analog timber
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frogman said we should go here with the IF ygo game

rose portal
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u is tryna duel anyone?

analog timber
rose portal
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That’s like a

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400 IQ moment

radiant kettle
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For the IF Yu-Gi-Oh game, you need one joke card that is super powerful and exists but is inherently banned in the meta for being too powerful. I propose the Chardub alt of Mr. Toed, the Mr. Mime/Politoed fusion.

thick seal
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Power Creep
Spell card
"Win the game" huehue

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"Forgotten in the daycare"
Spell card
"Choose a monster in your hand and banish it. After your second Standby phase after activating this card, special summon it."

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Thoughts?

analog timber
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"... special summon a monster from your deck with the same type combination but x level higher"

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might be better since when you forget a mon in the daycare its gonna be many level shigher

thick seal
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Oh good idea.

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Maybe you can wait X amount of turns to choose a mon X levels higher?

analog timber
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good idea ohyes

thick seal
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"Forgotten in the daycare"
Spell card (permanent)
"Choose a monster in your hand and banish it. After your second Standby phase, you can activate this card to special summon a monster from your deck that has the same level as the banished monster + the number of your elapsed Standby phases since this card had been put on the field."

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Maybe someone can help with wording it better thisclown

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Not sure if the same type combination is a necessary restriction, will probably be when we add more powerful cards

analog timber
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"During your Main Phase 1, you can send this card to the GY and special summon..."

analog timber
last cargo
rose portal
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That would make a lot more sense

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I was thinking of a card that can change the name of certain monsters as like an effect like as a ditto card

thick seal
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There is no such thing as "evolution" in the card game yet.

rose portal
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But like it would be one of ur fusion material from the extra

thick seal
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We have a card like that alrdy @rose portal :)

rose portal
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Awww

radiant kettle
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Let's be honest, putting a Pokemon in IF Daycare and getting back a different mon isn't unheard of. I mean, when you breed a fusion (and it produces an egg), the baby may be a fusion completely unrelated to the original mon.

analog timber
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but thats just because the daycare is buggy lol

last cargo
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"It's not a bug it's a feature"

rose portal
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What about a spell that has u send material from ur deck that can let u fusion summon but u can’t activate cards for the rest of the turn and ur next turn : >

prime smelt
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thats literally dns sample

radiant kettle
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That feels like a "Why can't we just let you do a powerful thing once then basically not have a turn the next turn" situation.

prime smelt
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not literally but basically

analog timber
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yo tomate im just gonna spam your dms with the arts i made

prime smelt
rose portal
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Tryna be creative here it’s kinda difficult with there being so many cards already like I bet there’s a card that lets u “attack then return both monsters to the hand and neither player takes battle damage involving that card”

thick seal
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Why would you attack if both players dont take damage and the monsters don't get destroyed Thonking

analog timber
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"return both" zero

thick seal
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"Choose 1 monster from each side of the battlefield, they return to their owner's hand"

analog timber
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its a neo spacian grandmole card

thick seal
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Yeah but the attack part doesn't really make sense to me

analog timber
thick seal
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You youngins and yer fancy new cards. I remember the good ol' days when we had 1200ATK normal monsters and that was our strongest card! stare

rose portal
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They say youngings like this card wasn’t introduced more than a decade ago

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Mole is pretty old

analog timber
thick seal
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@rose portal @last cargo You guys tryna duel? stare

rose portal
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Old Yugioh animation quality was dog crap lol 😂 dang I remember it being way better

analog timber
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heck yeah new cards dropped blurry_ohyes

rose portal
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Oh snap

last cargo
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Oh hell yeah

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I shall poke card game after scholl

shut gale
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@prime smelt

prime smelt
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one one

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I'll fix it after work

valid cape
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anyways i have a 3 days and a half weekend

prime smelt
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don't show this to katten lie

manic birch
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@celest pawn

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There ya go I showed it to kiwi instead

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Ggwp

thick seal
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Anyone wanna duel?

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Fusion monsters can't be in your deck, so the effect would never trigger Thonking

indigo pecan
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will there be a pokemon with fossil in the name? probably not, so why don't put the effect like that?
Add 1 "Fossil" Spell/Trap from your deck to your hand

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I have nothing better to do and I decided to go read the cards Despair

thick seal
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Make a deck if you have nothing better to do stare

indigo pecan
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i need to read the cards first stare

thick seal
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Cant wait

indigo pecan
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could I rewrite some cards? Thonking
maybe it won't be 100% right but it will be a little more right Thonking

thick seal
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Go for it. I'll check if the cards still mean the same thing

indigo pecan
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ok

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and also, this ear pain

indigo pecan
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I'll go see all spells first

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skipped?

thick seal
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Some cards make it possible to "skip" the required cointoss of other cards making you be able to choose the outcome

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XIII The World for example in actual YGO

indigo pecan
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so negate? Thonking

thick seal
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The skip-part is word for word used in actual YGO cards

indigo pecan
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the word "skipped" was never used in yugioh stare

thick seal
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wut stare

indigo pecan
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as far as I know, Skip was only used to skip someone's turn or phase stare

thick seal
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I thought for sure that that was a YGO phrase

indigo pecan
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Toss a coin and call it, if you call it right, draw 2 cards. If you call it wrong, your opponent draws 2 cards. This card cannot be negated.
stare

thick seal
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That changes the card effect though

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Now your opponent can't negate the card anymore

radiant kettle
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"Other card effects cannot modify the outcome of the coin toss."

thick seal
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^

indigo pecan
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"outcome" pain

thick seal
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whats wrong with outcome stare

indigo pecan
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is not used

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and I thought that modify would be used, but apparently not either

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so...
Toss a coin and call it, if you call it right, draw 2 cards. If you call it wrong, your opponent draws 2 cards. angery

thick seal
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3x call in the card text pain

indigo pecan
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just use this blurry_pain

radiant kettle
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Isn't that just Pot of Greed with extra steps if you have something that allows you to modify coin tosses?

indigo pecan
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yes

thick seal
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^

indigo pecan
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I'm going to the next spell then stare

radiant kettle
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huehue You could always take a recent approach Magic the Gathering did for their Dungeons and Dragons set: Roll a d20. On a 1-9, your opponent draws two cards. On a 10-20, you draw two cards.

indigo pecan
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duelingbook only has d6

thick seal
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We could roll a D6 3 times and add all the different outcomes huehue

indigo pecan
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Cell Battery
This card is always treated as an Electric-type card. Target 1 Electric-type Monster on the field; change that target to Defense Position and then target 2 Electric-type cards in your GY; add the targets to your hand. When this card is sent to the GY: Both players lose 200 LP

thick seal
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*an Electric-type card Thonking

radiant kettle
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Roll three D6. On 3- 9, opponent draws two cards. On 10-17, you draw two cards. On 18, you draw three cards.

indigo pecan
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Chuck
Add 1 Fighting-Type Monster from your Deck to your hand. If that Monster is Level 5 or higher: Discard 1 card with a different name.

Cloud Nine seems to me to be correct stare

thick seal
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I made an absolutely terrible deck. Anyone wanna play? stare

placid sapphire
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sure

indigo pecan
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Defog
This card is always treated as an Flying-type Card. You can only activate this card if you control a Flying-type monster. Destroy all Continuous Spells on the field. During your opponent's turn, if a monster declare a attack; You can banish this card from your GY; negate the attack.

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DNA Sample looks kinda bad to me pain

thick seal
thick seal
placid sapphire
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im gonna use my old playground deck

indigo pecan
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you can't even use it for fusion pain

thick seal
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You can

placid sapphire
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its like... pre-pend are

indigo pecan
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no

placid sapphire
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aight, name on db?

thick seal
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zeroneon

indigo pecan
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DNA Splicer use monsters

thick seal
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Oh well we're currently using it like you can

indigo pecan
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DNA Sample can't even be used for fusion blurry_pain

thick seal
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Then we need to change it so we can stare

indigo pecan
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I don't even know what it would be like, how do I make an effect that makes the spell usable in a fusion that only uses monsters pain

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if you're treating it as a monster, then it would be better to just summon the monster from the deck and banish the spell or something

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I think it would be something like this

Once per turn: You can reveal a Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, then banish 1 of the Fusion Materials whose name is specifically listed on that card from your deck; this card's name becomes the sent monster's name, also Special Summon this card as a Normal Monster (WATER/Aqua/Level 1/ATK 0/DEF 0). If this card is sent to the GY as a fusion material: You can banish 1 "DNA Sample" from your deck; add 1 "DNA Sample" from your deck to your hand.

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DNA Splicer seems ok
Electric Terrain
This card is always treated as an Electric-type card. When this card is activated: Destroy all other "Terrain" Spells. All Electric-type Monsters gain 500 ATK and all Flying-type Monsters lose 500 ATK. Once per turn: You can inflict 300 damage to your opponent's LP for every Electric-type Monster on the field.

placid sapphire
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hi uhm

indigo pecan
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hi

placid sapphire
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your Sandstorm card

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it destroys itself when activated

indigo pecan
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sandstorm?

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Elite Four Bruno
When an attack is declared involving a Fusion Monster you control and an opponent's monster: That monster you control gains ATK equal to the ATK of the opponent's monster until the end of the Damage Step. If the monster you control is not a Fighting-type Monster, at the end of the Damage Step: Destroy that monster.

Elite Four Lance
You can discard 1 Level 7 or higher Dragon-type Monster: Draw 2 cards. If this card is sent to the GY: You can target 1 monster on the field; until the end of your opponents next turn, it is unaffected by all other cards effects.

Elite Four Lorelei seems ok
Target 2 cards in your opponent's GY; banish them. If you activate this card and you don't control an Ice-type Monster: Your opponent can target 1 card in your GY; banish it.

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the Ether, I have a card like that and several people complained

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Focus Sash
If the equipped monster would be destroyed by battle, destroy this card instead.
I will stop seeing the cards stare

thick seal
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@placid sapphire

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Going AFK so your opponent leaves. Works every time 😎

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jk, I am back. Up for another?

placid sapphire
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sure

prime smelt
indigo pecan
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yes 9head

thick seal
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@prime smelt Can you use Protect to save the player as well?

placid sapphire
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@thick seal how badly do you want to loose?

thick seal
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Not at all pain

placid sapphire
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alright, playground deck it is again

thick seal
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The deck you used is on par with the powerlevel of what I can beat with my deck thisclown

placid sapphire
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...thats sad

thick seal
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IF cards just don't have a high powerlevel stare

indigo pecan
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I think even my weakest deck can win pain

thick seal
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dammit

prime smelt
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not sure I understand the question xD

analog timber
rose portal
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I would like to duel someone

analog timber
rose portal
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It’s my first time dueling so how does this work

analog timber
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you go to dueling room and search for my room named IF in the far right list

rose portal
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IF ok

analog timber
rose portal
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im in

rose portal
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in

thick seal
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How'd it go?

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Would love to see the replay

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@placid sapphire also thank you for the lesson

placid sapphire
thick seal
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joininh

analog timber
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chari accidentaly put his fusions in his side deck, so we played a round without fusion and then he had to go xD

thick seal
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xD

analog timber
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yeah

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im hosting

analog timber
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@prime smelt suggestion to change geodudes effect to mill to only once per turn

thick seal
prime smelt
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you think thats neccessary?

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I thought the change of having it be set at the end of the turn might be enough

analog timber
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yes because the way it is he can mill 9 cards with 3 geodudes on the feild and thats too good xD

prime smelt
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but then brock would be useless Despair

analog timber
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9 cards is too much for a 2 card combo

prime smelt
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once per turn would still mean that every geodude can trigger once, right?

thick seal
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yea

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Maybe change brock up a bit?

analog timber
thick seal
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Also: I think mill poison should get a buff

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Maybe have Venonat trigger its effect when it is special summoned as well?

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You could do some cool combos with Kurt and Unstable DNA

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Also I made a mill deck. I'd love to try it out painless

last cargo
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I have a fossil deck that I would also like to try out :)

thick seal
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If only we could find someone to duel sadbro

last cargo
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Small thing though I'm still a bit slow on actually using the website

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So true 😔

thick seal
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np better slow than too fast xD

last cargo
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Alright!

thick seal
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hosting! painless

last cargo
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Requested

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Names RyderDreamer on it btw

thick seal
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@last cargo hosting again

last cargo
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Understood

thick seal
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Big one: I think some fossil fusions need buffs

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Kabuix for example is absolutely useless xD

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Omazard: is a fusion with a flip effect but doesnt have a way to set itself

last cargo
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Alright guys

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I propose we cancel Zero

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Imagine getting Three repels

thick seal
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I can banish them in the graveyard to add one from my deck to my hand xD

last cargo
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What in the fuck

thick seal
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GG! Mill and fossil both need heavy buffs xD

last cargo
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Agreed. Fossils are pretty fun though

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They just need a lot of set up

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and luck

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Theoretically getting chari and kabutops plus dna would be an amazing start

thick seal
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Yeah but all the other fusions are just sad to look at xD

last cargo
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Agreed

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Why the hell does Omastar Chari have 30 attack

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It isn't even one of those cards where you can attack while its in def mode

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It'd be good if you could set it

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But right now its as useless as labyrynth wall

thick seal
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It's less useful because it requieres 3 cards to summon thisclown

last cargo
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😔

rose portal
# thick seal How'd it go?

Work called me in but the first round I drew all 3 dna splicers and my best fusion material but realized my stuff was in my side not my extra

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Could have went into a Charizard X hydreigon fusion ;-;

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But I didn’t put it in the right place loool 😆

prime smelt
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a-dded the -bra

analog timber
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I'm curious if you're gonna add the cards katten made their latest arts for or if your're still fudsing with their effects

prime smelt
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oh, did I miss any designs made?

celest pawn
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check drive

prime smelt
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o7

analog timber
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muk seems kinda op 👀

prime smelt
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not quite sure on the power level

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but definetly a hard counter to rock decks

analog timber
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kinda a hard counter to anything that relys on quick plays spells and traps

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maybe make it "cannot be flipped up until their owners next turn after they have been set" or something like that

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that way they at least get a chance if they hold out until the next turn

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also you could make really mean combos with that otherwise like Normal poison deck with sing spam

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which should also be avoided with that change

thick seal
analog timber
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had to suggest this when I saw the orb equip spells:

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Fling
Trap This card is always Dark Type. Activate this card by targeting a monster you control. Equip all Equip Spells that are equipped to that target to an opponents monster of your choice. If an Equip Spell would be equipped to an invalid target through this effect, destroy it.

prime smelt
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uuh, nice idea

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love it

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Also, I'm just gonna post this instead of keeping the docx updated. Less of a hastle

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Progress

prime smelt
last cargo
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Small suggestion. Maybe some connection between regigias and fossils because of the ancient theme whenever you add them-

prime smelt
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hmm

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maybe

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probably gonna be a while until regigigas gets added

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Btw, Bug decks should be playable by now 👀

analog timber
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why? because of modern erika? 👀

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modern erika doesnt trigger most effects of bug fusions tho

prime smelt
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It still gives you a really wide range of possible fusions to go into

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Haven't tested it yet, but I think this is probably pretty good

analog timber
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i think its kinda bad that half their effects are "mill your opponent" but none of their support cards support those effects so they cant bank on decking out their opponent which leads to half their effects being largely useless sadbro

rose portal
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Venomoth and venonat were pains

analog timber
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I know this might be obvious for most players and its probably just a nitpick, but Substitute might need an addendum on second thought which is that the "As long as this token is on the field, your opponent must target this token with Spell/Trap/Monster effects and attacks." part should have an "(if possible)" included, just to specify that cards that usually only target monsters the (opponent) player controls themselves don't need to target Substitute all of a sudden.

prime smelt
analog timber
prime smelt
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oh, thats true

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gonna fix that

analog timber
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if kurt normal summoned we could at least do combos like venonant+uturn into something then chain kurt onto uturns mill and normal summon a venomoth with it

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and we could reuse venonat then

prime smelt
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I think it makes more sense to remove the normal summon restriction on vanonat and moth

analog timber
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what about venoslash tho, if you adapted that change to those it might be too good again tho

prime smelt
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yeah, Ill fix all the fusions too

analog timber
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no thats not what i meant wait xD

prime smelt
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so how about

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keep the fusion summon restrictions on the fusions but make the non fusions trigger on any summon?

analog timber
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that would be fine I guess

prime smelt
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or put a once per turn on all of them?

analog timber
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once per turn would be interesting

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you can make it that and we'd need to playtest I think

prime smelt
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yea

thick seal
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Anyone wanna playtest? stare

analog timber
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yes me

analog timber
thick seal
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coming

prime smelt
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send the replays in here when you are done ohyes

thick seal
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There's a big oversight with Rock/Ground decks rn Tomate

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Currently, the Rock/Ground types swap their ATK/DEF and not their original attack defense.

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So everytime Sandstorm is on the field and you swap ATK/DEF of a geodude it would become 200/2300 -> 2300/700 -> 700/2800 ->3300/1200

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The arrows are swaps
EASILY CHANGED
By changing the text to "Swap ORIGINAL ATK/DEF"

analog timber
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no it wouldnt anyway even the way its worded now

thick seal
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I just asked a KDE judge sadbro

valid cape
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i love the d&d campain that i'm currently in

analog timber
valid cape
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and i'm playing a Galan, a wood elf ranger that has a earth flux

analog timber
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items with magic sounds cool tbh

analog timber
prime smelt
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That was a super interesting game to watch 👀

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Looks like venonat is not thaat bad after all xD

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Would you say the venomoth mill 6 is a bit too much?

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Oh and btw: When you activate Koga you have to summon a poison mon. Not optional

analog timber
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card text doesnt read like that tho 👀

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you could just make that the activation cost tho

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"Activate this card by special summoning 1 Level 2 Poison Type monster from your deck or hand. ..."

prime smelt
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I think the text does say that

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But I can make it more clear 👍

thick seal
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increase the Koga card to 3 stars 👀

rose portal
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anyone tryna duel ; >

prime smelt
thick seal
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yes thisclown

thick seal
rose portal
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K

thick seal
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@rose portal You still wanna play?

rose portal
thick seal
rose portal
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k whats ur name

thick seal
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^

rose portal
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mk

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im in

rose portal
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gg

thick seal
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gg!

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No rematch?

rose portal
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dont have the time rn

thick seal
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np :)

rose portal
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just make sure u remember what ether does xdddd

thick seal
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fuck man.. xD

thick seal
prime smelt
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Progress

Update: Kecleon was added, Rotom was added, Sunkern and Sunfora were added

thick seal
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The new cards are awesome, tomate ohyes

harsh dome
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@thick seal did you make an IF yugioh thing?

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@prime smelt ?

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could I make a deck around Sunlix? ;3

prime smelt
harsh dome
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Oh

prime smelt
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But its not like every fusion is in it. or every mon xD

harsh dome
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Oh yes

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Yes, but, at least Sunlix

prime smelt
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Steelix is already in, but I can only add sunlix once I also add sunkern

harsh dome
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Oh ok, can't wait

prime smelt
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I'll get to it soon, since you are such a nice guy wigglyret_head_2

harsh dome
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hahahah

thick seal
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anyone tryna get their ass beat?

rose portal
thick seal
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sure got a new deck!

rose portal
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Dang I can’t duel u then

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Since I gotta make a new deck then

thick seal
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My new deck is shit

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First time I am trying it and I am not sure it will be succesfull xD

rose portal
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I mean

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The last duel wirh u was like my first duel with my deck

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So

thick seal
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Whats your username again?

rose portal
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Mega Char

thick seal
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kk

rose portal
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Space between

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I’m in?

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I’ll be chilling in the waiting I guess

thick seal
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sorry, my b

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accepted

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@rose portal back :)

rose portal
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gg

thick seal
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gg man

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sorry for the long drag, my hand was just so bad

prime smelt
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🦀 Yugioh Infinite Fusion Tournament of Epicness #1 🦀

<@&891964843282800681> The first tournament is here. It will start on the 29th of September. To join, simply send me a DM before it starts. I will create a bracket and let everyone know who they have to duel against.

The duels will be Best of 3, based on the current card pool and with side decking in between games. You don't need to play to same deck against every opponent. There is also no time limit for how fast you need to get your duels done. I think this will be small enough to manage without smile

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You can also join if you don't have the YgoIF role yet of course

celest pawn
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you get bonus points if you use cards i made

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bonus points can be used to buy this server

shut gale
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is just for me duelingbook down?

prime smelt
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Yeah, I got a message that the servers are restarting

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I was just about to add all the rotoms pain

shut gale
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will they be allowed for the tournament?

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i should make the fusions quick....

prime smelt
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Do you know how fusions work? 👀
Its basically just the effects of 2 cards mashed together

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Tho rotom will need some special treatment, since it's never clear which rotom form was used for the fusion summon

shut gale
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the given rotom will equip itself to the given fusions and hence, will have it effect
i plan on having the fusions the effect of the non-rotom amplified/ adjusted to fit the rotom theme

prime smelt
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Those little effects for every rotom were something I was thinking about

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  1. Regular rotom probably needs one too, or its just straight up the worst one
  2. Some of them might be a little too weak
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I would buff the effects of the rotom forms, but then also not change then in fusions

But we'll see about how ballanced that turns out of course

rose portal
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Form pokemon are weird in the card game I assume

thick seal
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I need to make an electric type deck stare

rose portal
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Oh bet lemme duel that one too

prime smelt
thick seal
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Anyone wanting to test their decks out before the tournament? huehue

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(@ me pls]

thick seal
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This effect is pretty bad since it doesn't have the addition of stunfisk's "can be summoned from the GY" thing

rose portal
thick seal
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You beat me tho! ohyes

rose portal
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Still dog water

thick seal
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so I'm less than dog water Despair

rose portal
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Nah

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U bricked

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If u didn’t brick I wouldn’t have won

thick seal
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Wanna find out? Got my new electric deck evil

rose portal
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I’m not even home rn

thick seal
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@prime smelt Just looked through all electric cards and THE SYNERGIES are insane. Props to you man

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Also I need someone to fight because I am worried my electric deck is much worse than it seems stare

prime smelt
thick seal
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I guess true

thick seal
thick seal
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@prime smelt Koga: same effect but instead of stopping the special summon, the opponent is unable to enter the battlephase?

prime smelt
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not sure if I like that. For now I've just limited Koga to 1

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cuz I figured out I can do that and it seemed fun

rose portal
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dna samples second effect requires u to run 3 dang

thick seal
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DNA sample S-tier tho, worth it running 3

rose portal
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like if u use 1

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use the effect

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then send it to the grave

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u banish one from the deck to add one from the deck

thick seal
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ye

rose portal
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u tryna run a duel or

thick seal
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It's a tradeoff: Do you want to possibly get 2 or just one but now?

rose portal
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??

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psdibly???

thick seal
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possibly

rose portal
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depends

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set up that room ; >

thick seal
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Can you play Duelingbook on Android?

rose portal
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idk

thick seal
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lemme test

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it works holy fuck

rose portal
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language ; <<< just kidding i dont give a crap

thick seal
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hosting rn!

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I cant play I'm sorry @rose portal xD

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Its sooo fkn laggy

rose portal
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its ok i had a trap waiting for u ;)))))))))))))

thick seal
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Which one?

rose portal
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repel :))))))))))))

thick seal
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ahh fugg

rose portal
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also i had charizard and a splicers in hand

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so i could get my sample from the grave with its effect and summon tanother fusion

prime smelt
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@harsh dome blurry_ohyes

harsh dome
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Yesssss

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Now I need to learn this

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@thick seal ciuls you teach me

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Could*

shut gale
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why is Sunlix so weak? i know cause of sunkern, but still cmon

prime smelt
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I wouldn't say he's weak

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Sunkern effect is insane

thick seal
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Try to make a deck yourself first, and then I can teach you in a game

thick seal
prime smelt
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idk

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Sunkern is kind of a slightly weakend version on lonefire blossom, which is already a card that was on the banlist because of how strong it is

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depends on the effects of all other main deck grass monsters I guess

thick seal
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^ ye

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Havent seen any good grass 4s, so I guess that's why I am thinking it might be low in power

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WOOO lonefire blossom OP as fuck

harsh dome
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@prime smelt mr.barel next? :p

prime smelt
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hmm

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I was thinking of adding Bidoof Thonking

rose portal
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Make bidoof op : 0

celest pawn
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make bidoof shit

rose portal
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Like make it seem OP than just be useless

celest pawn
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yes

rose portal
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Like add a normal type monster to ur hand than discard it from your hand immediately

celest pawn
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

rose portal
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It gives it character

prime smelt
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Btw guys, join the tournament read_pinned

rose portal
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But I’m poopie at the game

prime smelt
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doesnt matter as long as you draw Koga

rose portal
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I don’t play koga

celest pawn
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i dont even know how to play

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time to win this tournament lets go

prime smelt
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Progress

Poliwag line was added, Litwick line was added, Deoxys was added, Dunsparce was added, Absol was added

rose portal
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Are the legendary birds gonna be like the Egyptian god cards that take 3 tributes

prime smelt
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no

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but Idk what to do with legis yet

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Someone suggested to make them ritual monsters I think

rose portal
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Seems hella to summon for legendary status

celest pawn
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im kind of sad we dont have all of the gen III regis in this game lol

rose portal
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I don’t mind

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Less exploding regis

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For@me to worry about

celest pawn
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i like the regis lie

rose portal
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Not saying there bad

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Just they explode too@much

celest pawn
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@k

rose portal
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@ikr

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What’s ur fav regi

shut gale
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so ive made a sheet, it isnt that helpful, but it at least shows which sprites have been made and which bases are already made in the duelingbook
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YtmN8k0ifnxfJqyZ1EJOy6LHDZT-FwKqBeBHcwvpA8Q/edit?usp=sharing

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handling fusions might be a bit much

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tho i could implement smth aswell, tho maintain such would be...uh ye

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and its rather slow when updating

thick seal
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anyone up for a duel?

harsh dome
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@thick seal I don't even know where to go

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or what to do

thick seal
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You got time for screensharing?

harsh dome
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sure

thick seal
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I'm in voice

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@harsh dome can you hear me?

harsh dome
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I can hear you

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Do you have me muted or something

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Could some-one else join VC?

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See if others can't hear me either

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I'll try in an other chat

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Yeeeeah

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i tried an other chat

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and they could hear me

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whats your output device?

harsh dome
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I'll figure out a deck and come back to you, no problem

thick seal
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I'm back

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had to wrangle the doggos

lunar atlas
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Dog rancher

thick seal
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Anyone up for a duel?

rose portal
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Nah I’m down

prime smelt
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I also need to start making a deck for the tournament

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The tournament that has like... 3 participants pain

analog timber
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I dont know if I want to join yet. I might decide shortly before it starts

rose portal
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I may join depends what time the tourney is

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Since I’m not home u til like 5 PM est tomorrow so

shut gale
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dont worry about the time at all

prime smelt
thick seal
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back! allthethings

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Anyone still have time?

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*for a battle stare

celest pawn
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i dont know how to

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but i will make a deck only of koga-cards

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gg

thick seal
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You will have 6 cards

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I tried pushing that for so long. I think we should maybe have a vote for standard rules?
Should you be able to mulligan at the start?

harsh dome
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@prime smelt you could get people in #artwork to make nifty card art

prime smelt
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i guess

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don't really see the need tho. if people wanna make something, great. But if nobody wants to make something thats 100% fine too. I'll be able to make something decent enough

safe vapor
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imo it adds to the charm to have "good enough" card art KappaPride

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.

prime smelt
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uh oh, I think Grass decks are busted now 👀

prime smelt
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Now I don't know if I should use that or my psychic deck pain

thick seal
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I have a hard time deciding as well stare

prime smelt
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tene has funny card ideas huehue

analog timber
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sounds a bit stronk

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high atk+protection+destruction+selfsustain

thick seal
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Needs a lot of ramp up tho

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I think its fine. We can always nerf it later

prime smelt
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protection only lasts for 1 turn though

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which is why I don't think the selfsustain is a problem

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also, getting this thing to more than 1500 atk is basically never gonna happen I imagine

shut gale
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IMPORTANT INFORMATION!!!
you can search multiple words by using an asterisk

celest pawn
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so sick

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🚎

shut gale
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thats actually huge 👀 are u trolling me?

thick seal
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anyone down to do pre-tournament prep? huehue

prime smelt
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@analog timber About 5 more hours until I'll start the tournament. Gotta decide until then

thick seal
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yeeeee

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@shut gale Opened up a lobby

shut gale
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i dont know how lie

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i never used duelingbook

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@thick seal vc?

celest pawn
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tenedranox talks?

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👽

shut gale
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ye....? 👀

celest pawn
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i thought you were a alien, not a human 👽

shut gale
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welp

celest pawn
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👽 👽

rose portal
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New alien language

analog timber
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@prime smelt thanks for letting me know. but it seems im not going to participate this time

thick seal
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Thanks to tene, my decks have finally reached their final form evil

celest pawn
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LOL

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I SAW THAT

thick seal
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SHUTUP

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NOOOOOOOO

celest pawn
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"MY DICKS HAVE FINALLY REACHED THEIR FINAL FORM"

thick seal
celest pawn
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LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO

thick seal
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Tomate, can we get more venonat/venomoth fusions that have the mill effect? 👀

prime smelt
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I'll make sure to add more of those two as heads

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Btw, I added the first legendary 😳

thick seal
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XYZ summons!? Now I have to learn that shit Despair

prime smelt
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no no no

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that's just to make it obvious that they don't work like other extra deck monsters

thick seal
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oh nvm I just read it

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yea

prime smelt
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and because it looks cool 😎

thick seal
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There's no way of getting the speed form out yet, right?

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oh wai

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Deoxys attack

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I should read the cards first sadbro

prime smelt
thick seal
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there's only 2 in the game tho sadbro

prime smelt
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had a mistake in defense form

shut gale
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thats already enough

celest pawn
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add 100 more

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so it balances out

thick seal
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ADD 420 blurry_ohyes

prime smelt
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I have kinda good news for both of you: There is only 1 venomoth head fusion left that I can add

shut gale
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ok, 60 card decks incoming

shut gale
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that is good news

prime smelt
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But there might be some Poison Type/venomoth fusions that also get the bug effect

thick seal
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yessss

prime smelt
thick seal
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WOW

prime smelt
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people need to make more venomoths

analog timber
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lol

thick seal
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Only 3 venomoth/venonat head fusions

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that's insane

prime smelt
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maybe I missed some

analog timber
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nobody loves venonant Despair

distant cipher
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What are you all talking about?

prime smelt
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It's been a while since I went through the venomoth gallery

thick seal
prime smelt
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not talking about venonat btw. I have quite a few of those in my folder

thick seal
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ohhh I see

analog timber
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im gonna make Venomoth/Lucario into just another Kamen Rider 👀

distant cipher
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Custom Yugioh?

prime smelt
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yeah

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check the pins

shut gale
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this topic should be a thread if we are frank

thick seal
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Can you use cell battery on a mon that is already in def pos? Thonking

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It says "change to defense" but it doesn't say that it has to be in ATK

shut gale
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by the wording of it, u can target it, but since u cant change it it fails

thick seal
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Yeah, that's probably a good way to look at it

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Now I can't chain 3 batteries on one mon, dammit huehue

shut gale
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well, yes and no, magnet wouldnt work then either or would not work depending on the ruling

prime smelt
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this will probably make your deck quite a bit more consistent BigTimeDab

shut gale
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ffs borken bs

thick seal
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YEEEEES

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This is gonna be awesome

prime smelt
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I doubt that anyone else will join the tournament, which means that we have 5 members.
me
zeroneon
LeftOnRed
The Mega Charizard X
Tenedranox

Shall we do a round robin or a bracket where one person instantly moves on to round 2?

celest pawn
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let me join too ill destroy you all with my koga card

prime smelt
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🆗

celest pawn
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oh wait i dont know how to play

prime smelt
celest pawn
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🚶‍♀️

prime smelt
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👋

thick seal
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Round robin? george

prime smelt
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Everyone plays egainst everyone else. 3 points if you win 2-0, 2 points if you win 2-1.
The 2 people with the most points play in the finale

shut gale
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🤷‍♂️

thick seal
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I know what round robin is. I wanted to express my support for it painless

prime smelt
thick seal
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I won't even need my sidedeck to defeat you

shut gale
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regarding the Onix effect, does "You can only use this effect once per turn." refer to each individual card with that effect or every card with said effect?

thick seal
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Yes

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each individual

prime smelt
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Only "Onix". No fusions of it

thick seal
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Oh wait

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nvm george

shut gale
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i dont understand the answer

thick seal
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Only 1 onix can use it per turn

prime smelt
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oh, I got the question wrong first

prime smelt
shut gale
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only 1 onix/fusion with it, ok

thick seal
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No, the fusions and onix are seperate

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1 onix fusion and 1 onix can use the effect in the same turn

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If they are the exact same card, they cant use it together

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if they are different, its fine

shut gale
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oh ok, so chaining Onix into Kabuix into Noseix into Onix is completely fine

thick seal
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No, because you would use onix twice

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  1. Onix
  2. Kabuix
  3. Nosix
  4. Onix <--- not allowed
shut gale
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nah i mean, first onixs effect is trigger, second onix is summoned by Noseix, not the effect of the second triggers aswell

thick seal
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Ohhhh

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yeah that would be possible

prime smelt
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@last cargo @rose portal What would you prefer for this 5 man tournament? Round Robin or bracket?

thick seal
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round robin makes more sense but bracket is more hype

last cargo
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Considering it's an out of 3 system bracket for the sake of time

prime smelt
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Yeah, let's go with bracket for this first one. We can always do bigger tournaments later

thick seal
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who is my first victim blurry_ohyes

last cargo
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I am currently in school and sadly cannot die at this very moment😔

prime smelt
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I would be quite happy about that

thick seal
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You and me, boio george

prime smelt
#

The first 🦀 Yugioh Infinite Fusion Tournament of Epicness 🦀 beginns ohyes

Here is the bracket:

Round 1:
a. @thick seal vs. @prime smelt
b. @shut gale vs. @last cargo

Round 2:
c. @rose portal vs. Tomate

Finale:
b vs. c

There is no rush. Just duel whenever you have the time.
All matches will be best of 3 with side decking in between games. The entire current cardpool is allowed. Also, please DM me about the results of your match and send me a replay or post it in this channel smile

thick seal
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hostingevil

analog timber
prime smelt
shut gale
last cargo
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Ah school just started so around 3ish est

shut gale
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mmmh, cant really make that time nor the next 12-14 hours after

last cargo
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Hmmm

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I mean, if worst comes to worse I'll gladly give up my spot for you to pass on, especially considering you are currently more ready and available

distant cipher
rose portal
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I got a whole pass yay

prime smelt
thick seal
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If only the second game wasn't absolute shit

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mulligan rule! angery

distant cipher
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Decided to make two Veno fusions.

thick seal
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niiice

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Anyone wanna play against my veno deck? :]

shut gale
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sure

thick seal
#

niice

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opening up in a sec

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there we go

harsh dome
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@prime smelt don't add cards in for my sake specially anymore btw

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I just found out I don't like this game

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The game itself, not cause of anyone

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@thick seal you're not to blame, understand

thick seal
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It's fine xD

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I am working on making this happen in YGO pro so everything will work automatically

harsh dome
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Ah ok

rose portal
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Anyone tryna duel

thick seal
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going to bed sry!

rose portal
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Don’t worry

analog timber
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that would be great if ygo pro wasnt contaminated with spy- and malware

last cargo
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Dueling nexus would be pog if it had custom cards

rose portal
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Why not just do Edo pro at that point lol

shut gale
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@last cargo cool i cant ping for some reason, but i suppose u aint available to battle now?

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oh, the ping popup just didnt show 🤔

thick seal
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I just read up on it

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Apparently they got hacked and the hacker injected a bitcoin miner into the game. jesus

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Guess I'll try to work with EDO pro instead

last cargo
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@prime smelt honestly I think you can count me out mostly on the fact that when I'm available the person im against is asleep and vice versa. Good luck!

prime smelt
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In that case, @shut gale and @rose portal , you two fight and the winner is in the finale against me

shut gale
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kk, im available as of now

rose portal
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I’m not gonna be avaible for like 7 hours

shut gale
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great, gonna have the same issue with u as with Red 👀

prime smelt
rose portal
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Lé progress

Wailmer line was added, Vulpix line was added, Stantler was added, Gastly line was added (epicly), Nincada line was added, Seel line was added, Jirachi was added, Delibird was added (epicly)

thick seal
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Anyone down?

placid sapphire
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down for what?

thick seal
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YGO stare

placid sapphire
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oh, right, yeah sure

placid sapphire
valid cape
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got to my volleyball training thingy

got overwhelmed and cried

placid sapphire
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aww

valid cape
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and i took a ball in the head.

placid sapphire
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...ouch

rose portal
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It happens all the time in volleyball just wait until someone spikes it into your crotch

glacial ether
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Hey guys! Who wants to see a real life me dressed as sans? It's for my Halloween costume this year.

rose portal
valid cape
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i won't even have any

rose portal
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still the pain will be intense

distant cipher
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Just saw the new Venom movie, and I liked it a lot. Might try to make a sprite based off of it.

rose portal
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no spoils xd but a carnage sprite with like ditto and krookadile would be lit

analog timber
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the movie is very meh, but at least venom is a husbando sadbro

half dock
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what 👀

prime smelt
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Fell free to ping me if you wanna 👆

placid sapphire
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i would, but not sure if you'll accept a duel against me and my non-IF decks

prime smelt
placid sapphire
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back to resetting for protect then for me

thick seal
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@prime smelt lets gooo

prime smelt
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gimme 5 minutes

prime smelt
thick seal
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hosting alrdy

prime smelt
thick seal
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np

prime smelt
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hatte so 3 oder 4 fps gefühlt xD

harsh dome
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funfact

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did you know the term 'shadow realm' is an american thing, cause 4kids didn't like that the japanese yugioh basically said people would 'die'

thick seal
distant cipher
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I love that the actual VA said that.

harsh dome
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read; Looks like you're going to die, jimbo

distant cipher
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Decided to actually make that Venom-inspired spirte.

shut gale
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@rose portal so given its weekend, suppose we could do today? so evening for me, morning for u? ^^ in 6 to 7 ish hours?

prime smelt
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Added some new lines. Water and Fire should be playable now, and there is some good spell/trap destruction now

thick seal
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No electric or poison backline removal sadbro

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@prime smelt Can I try a deck out against you? 👀

prime smelt
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backline?

prime smelt
thick seal
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all I need... hehe huehue

rose portal
analog timber
thick seal
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Did I miss cards? Which ones are there?

analog timber
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all the cards that destroy spell/traps ?

prime smelt
analog timber
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^

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also I just saw Littik says this "When this card is Fusion Summoned: Your opponent can add 1 Bug or Electric Spell/Trap from their Deck to their hand." but im sure its supposed to say "Ghost or Electric"

thick seal
analog timber
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pretty sure electric/mill dont need S/T removal

thick seal
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every deck does stare

analog timber
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maybe give them options that can allow them to play around it if theyre smart but im against the idea of making simple removal available to everyone

analog timber
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anyone wanna duel?

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I made a new deck I wanna test

thick seal
analog timber
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ich glaub mein duelingbook is abgeschmiert sadbro

thick seal
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@prime smelt if I negate the special summon of an Absol with Koga, does Absol get sent to the GY?

thick seal
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@analog timber Internet abgeschmiert sadbro

analog timber
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rip

thick seal
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Noch eins oder erst mal schluss?

analog timber
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but it seems like ghost is missing something

thick seal
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^

analog timber
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yeah im done for now

thick seal
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Ghost seems really good for tempo swings

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but it can't end the game

analog timber
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yeah

thick seal
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Though I REALLY like the toxic spikes play

analog timber
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and ending it through battle damage is difficult for them because theyd need more card advantage to fill their hands with attackers

thick seal
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If there was something that could summon a lot of tokens for your opponent, the ghost+toxic spikes combo could work really well

analog timber
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ojama toxic spikes evil

prime smelt
prime smelt
thick seal
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solosis maybe? you know, Zellteilung

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(forgot the english name... xD)

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But if you want a ghost type that summons tokens, you could probably go for almost any

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Oh wait

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Maybe drakloak/Dragapult? They have dreepys inside of them

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dreepy tokens?

last cargo
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If its only if mons then ditto would work really well

thick seal
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oh fuck

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ofc

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Dragapult is not in IF

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Golett/Golurk maybe? They are artificial golems, so maybe they make new ones idk stare

prime smelt
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Does it have to be ghost tho?

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Wouldnt poison be better if you want to make it be good with toxic spikes?

thick seal
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No but it would fit with the archetype of "giving" your opponent monsters

last cargo
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It can always be a fusion- This way it could be like ditto and muk for poison tokens and ditto and gastly and such for ghost-

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Ditto just generally being a token related mon

prime smelt
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But fusions only combine effects of the two parts

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Otherwise this would go compleatly out of control

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But ghost fusions get different effects, since they get summoned to the opponents field

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So solosis could work well, with solosis fusions giving your opponent tokens

thick seal
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As long as solosis/reuniclus/the middle evolution that no one cares about gets a ghost fusion, I think that could be really strong

prime smelt
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And it would probably be better to keep flodding the opponents field with tokens to a fusion, so that its not too easy to pull off

analog timber
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you know about stantlers lore deal where it uses the aroma from the balls in its antlers to cause opponents to hallucinate that theres a bunch of them. maybe that could be used

prime smelt
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ooh, good idea