off-topic

[neon shore]

If people just cooperated

[raw jackal]

As long as you take out Arceus I think you’re doing well

[wooden kindle]

just trynna state that it is fair in some way

[raw jackal]

make him make more unusually buff and tall magikarp

Make an army

[dense cypress]

Anyways, now I want everyone to say one thing that makes them happy

I’ll start

Money

[raw jackal]

Unusual Magikarps

[neon shore]

Owning my art

[midnight saddle]

If people had an issue with the game using their sprites after they wanted out of it, they should've not made sprites affter reading the rules in sprite gallery and the agreement

[raw jackal]

I do like unusual things

[worn bronze]

Artists, which the staff clearly do not value!

[raw jackal]

and I love magikarp

[astral dagger]

Am I allowed to know what would be the logic? Because I don't really know what beef justifies not giving someone full control over the art.

[soft ermine]

I value this

[dense cypress]

It’s not that lol

[astral dagger]

Mhm

[raw jackal]

I’m not a spriter so I don’t know if I’m allowed to comment on this, but I really do love all of the shuckle fusions

every single one of them

Especially the really cursed ones

[astral dagger]

You're sick and shuckle-pilled, move on.

[deep shadow]

I love Shuckle

[raw jackal]

I absolutely am

[worn bronze]

Then explain why this spite fueled choice behind their art was made. Go ahead.

[astral dagger]

Holy shit it's 3d

[dense cypress]

You can’t take your assets out of a video game that’s already out just because you got beef with the studio
Everyone’s allowed to remove sprites if there’s a reason for it, and almost anything works as a valid reason, anything but “I’m mad at the staff because I got banned because I was rude to everyone”

[astral dagger]

I see.

I do disagree.

[neon shore]

Nobody here was paid for their work, so I greatly disagree.

[raw jackal]

I would like to ask, if it is their art do they still have copy rights?

[dense cypress]

Completely valid lol

[dense cypress]

Neither does the staff lol

[raw jackal]

or do they give them up when submitted to the game

[dense cypress]

We’re all just a big community that decided to do something for a community project

[neon shore]

The staff is who are letting this fester.

[woeful comet]

husk has been nasty to me specifically repeatedly over several years lmao, im allowed to express my opinion and joke about it, it doesnt change how they or other peeps are treated as as server members tho, putting removal requests to a sprite-man-wide vote is just the procedure. idk why yall keep passing around these screenshots like theyre some kinda gotcha moment

[astral dagger]

The art is theirs, so unless they like swatted Frog or tried to use the art to maliciously create a malware clone of PIF or something that is necessarily destructive, I don't care if you're mad that they're mad at you, that's stupid.

[raw jackal]

if they give up their copy rights it should be stated so people who want their art removed for any reason would know

[astral dagger]

And I don't use that last word for the sake of it, I hope it's clear I'm keeping the insults entirely null.

[white pagoda]

If you donate something to someone else and then get mad at them later, could you justifiably then demand payment simply because you're upset with them?

[astral dagger]

Yes.

[neon shore]

It's a donation I've made in good faith, I should receive good faith in return.

[midnight saddle]

Damn well Kiwi just punched a hole through your grainy ass picture evidence 😂

[raw jackal]

You have never seen any Reddit wedding cake stories have you

[worn bronze]

Why is that procedure then? For how long?

[white pagoda]

I actively avoid Reddit.

[neon shore]

Nobody is demanding payment.

[raw jackal]

I’m a pastry chef so that’s why I relate to that

[raw jackal]

That is entirely fair

[astral dagger]

We agree that Reddit ain't the place to be.

[raw jackal]

I have it so I can share my cute pastries

[neon shore]

Look

[raw jackal]

the people like the cute pasties

[neon shore]

You guys can't close Pandora's Box.

[raw jackal]

I give the people what they want

[kind phoenix]

👀

[white pagoda]

If Reddit is the front page of the internet, it has horrible PR.

[neon shore]

People will keep talking about this for a while, it's not just going to blow over.

[kind phoenix]

YINZ DETECTED

[raw jackal]

No 😭

[astral dagger]

Hi

[neon shore]

I wish you all luck in the fallout.

[edgy totem]

Hello

oh

[astral dagger]

Yeah I use yinz out of habit.

[edgy totem]

this looks

[astral dagger]

Hi hi hello

[edgy totem]

dramatic

[worn bronze]

If an artist wants their work removed from a non profit work that is updated all the time, why would you need some coucil vote to decide the fate of it

[midnight saddle]

eh they'll move on

[soft ermine]

Damn, people here finally get to see the stupid memes I have from the secret off-topic asylum

[astral dagger]

Very dramatic

[raw jackal]

I’m very confused I joined the conversation because I saw there was a person that was named Unsually Tall Magikarp

[edgy totem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEmIcuAasdk

[raw jackal]

I have no idea what’s going on

[dense cypress]

The thing is that the only reason husk wanted their sprites gone was to piss the staff because he was mad lol

[edgy totem]

lmao

[raw jackal]

They’re 6’1 and can also use metronome but it defaults to explosion

A very unusual magikarp indeed

[dense cypress]

Also why are talking about him? Lol

[edgy totem]

lol

[raw jackal]

because Magikarp is cool

[midnight saddle]

If they don't have to remove the sprites, and someone is being a prick about it, than I wouldn't either. Learn how to act. Be better

[soft ermine]

When in doubt, derail the topic!

[worn bronze]

It doesnt matter. If an artist doesnt want their own work in it, for whatever reason, they should be able to have it removed. Spite or not, its their work.

[dense cypress]

At this point it feels like you only want to create drama for the sake of it

[white pagoda]

From my point of view, if I were to draw on like a napkin and give it away to someone, I forefeit my right to then get mad at them for displaying it in their own home to everyone else..

[shut bane]

#spriter-agreement

[astral dagger]

I know you're referring to AlleyCat and all but I do still want to know why that's relevant. Like, the work is theirs still, if they're not gonna use it in a manner necessarily destructive to the project, why does it matter if they're being a nuisance about it?

[astral dagger]

I don't think they said anything contrary to the agreement, it says you can request removal.

[midnight saddle]

request

not instantly granted

[shut bane]

yeah it also says you might get denied and the choice is reserved to sprite managers

[soft ermine]

Literally, this chat currently feels like a constant attempt by everyone at a ‘gotcha’ moment and then the cycle repeats.

[wooden kindle]

it also says it may be refused under circumstances. now I do believe that should DEFINITELY be more specific, but either way, these are certainly circumstances.

[deep shadow]

It doesn't say you're entitled to it, only that you can request it

[midnight saddle]

the grainy sscreenshots are hilarious honestly lol

[worn bronze]

And why does it work that way

[astral dagger]

Correct! And they're saying that the choice wasn't fair or reasonable I do think, so pointing to the agreement doesn't address their point.

[worn bronze]

Why does it have to be a request?

[shut bane]

if you dont like it dont agree i guess

[astral dagger]

I just wanna know man.

[worn bronze]

Yet do you not see the issue.

[white pagoda]

At the same time, by calling it a request, it means they have the option to be denied.

[astral dagger]

I already addressed that

[midnight saddle]

That's how it is. If they didn't like it they didn't have to make a sprite. Case closed

[soft ermine]

Our time on this planet is limited as shit and this argument that is going nowhere is what you people think is the best thing you can spend it on? Man, I’ve been having an existential crisis, makes me overthink my own time spending lol

[astral dagger]

Frog in chat!?

Frog I'm such a big fan of your game.

[hearty yarrow]

Putting this chat in slow mode. @worn bronze you should probably chill out a bit if you don't want to get kicked out.

[long arch]

Just uh... Just gonna drop this seems to fit the vibe rn
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=9eOVvKzFJis&si=1MQoZ-sM4Py7MEvw

[neon shore]

Deal with the problems.

[midnight saddle]

Sorry about all this bull going on Frog, love the update it's been amazing 🙂

[dense cypress]

Community projects aren’t the place to hate everyone else, we’re supposed to work together for the better

[deep shadow]

I don't hate everyone (THIS IS A JOKE)

[long arch]

But it's so fun!

[dense cypress]

I do sometimes but because I’m a BPD and can’t help it

[woeful comet]

every time theres a deletion request we bring it up in a thread in the sprite man chat, people give their yes/nos, most of the time its just unanimous "yes delete em" bc its usually only a few dozen sprites at most. the main reason we have a limit on this is bc removing sprites is super tedious and time consuming and very few staff members can do it bc its complex shit + gitlab contributor limits how many people can edit the repo, and those peeps (mosty me and paya ) have a shit ton of other stuff to do behind the scenes, its just not realistic unfortunately

[soft ermine]

Anyway, crisis tangent aside, let’s talk about holiday shopping…as a retail worker who doesn’t even celebrate Christmas, thank god the season’s almost over lmao

[deep shadow]

is that why you hate me

[astral dagger]

If that's the argument I'd say that it'd be good to maybe clarify what general issues might grant a denial? Because I don't think that anyone outside of the staff that was wronged and thus has anger or grief over the matter would think that it's reasonable to hold someone's work against their wishes just because their wishes are that of an asshole, instead of being a problem to the project's integrity.

[neon shore]

Why do you even need to poll though? That blatantly allows for hateful responses and opens the door to deny people you just don't like. Just remove the sprites, you don't need to make it political. Shit like this wouldn't happen.

[worn bronze]

Idc if i get kicked out from a server that places a spiteful staff above the artists it needs. Y'all will see more and more requests for removal in no time flat. Wanna work with artists? Listen to them dumbfucks. Even if the artists were spiteful, if thet want to have their works removed, for whatever reason, it should be removed. Simple as that.

[dense cypress]

I would never hate you bro

[midnight saddle]

The staff has been very reasonable and defended themselves well, anyone still mad is just choosing to be at this point

[wooden kindle]

I do think that this would be reasonable. While this server already clarifies that it won’t accept all requests, pointing out which ones they don’t would stop some drama

[hearty yarrow]

bye bye

[dense cypress]

Most of the time cause we want to encourage people not to give up on spriting, sometimes they want to quit because they’ve been told they’re not good enough, so we want to help them feel and get better

[long arch]

Bye alleycat~

[soft ermine]

Anyway, let’s debate this, catboys vs dogboys, I want this settled on the battlefield

[neon shore]

That's an issue with your server that you should address, rather than setting up a system to deny people you don't like. That's frankly a terrible excuse, and part of the reason that threads exist. If you need to address that issue, address it in their thread with them.

[midnight saddle]

It's not a system to deny people they don't like, they just described what the system is for

[soft ermine]

I’m team dogboy to be honest, the whole catboy thing is overrated, cats can be a menace (I say this as someone who owns three cats)

[astral dagger]

Couldn't there be any sort of middle point or agreement to stop issues of the sort? Because having a voting system doesn't really help if having strong opinions about the subject of the vote skews it against them. Might as well just say "No, fuck you" outright, yah?

[dense cypress]

We know, and that’s something we’ve been working on for a while, but sadly we’re just humans that can’t be online and on every channel all the time, and even if we could, we can’t stop irl people to talk bad about stuff

[neon shore]

And yet that's how it's been used.

[wooden kindle]

agreed

[hearty yarrow]

Alright, I'm going to have to kindly ask you to drop the subject. You're trying to stir up shit and making this a shitty place for everyone. I'm not going to ask twice.

[woeful comet]

we do discuss it iwth the spriters in their thread! its just best practice to discuss things as a team first tho lmao

[astral dagger]

You can't make me choose. They'll all be mine.

[soft ermine]

I SUMMON POLICE CLUB OF JUSTICE!

[neon shore]

I'm not stirring up anything. Your system is flawed and you should look into it. Seriously. Otherwise these things may continue to happen and the issue will only grow over time. I won't pretend that I haven't said anything today in bad faith, but I fully mean this when I say it. Please reevaluate sprite removal.

[dense cypress]

I’ve even gone that far as reaching YouTubers and telling them that calling sprites lazy might be hurtful to people, we’re really trying our best ||And tbf I consider myself the laziest staff member, can’t even think of how much the other staff members are doing lol||

[neon shore]

I agree though. We've talked about this long enough for tonight.

[astral dagger]

It was so informative though, and I did have a last question.

[woeful comet]

and beleiv me, ive always been hella upset by people getting discouraged away from spriting (due to nitpickiness or bad feedback or whatever else), its a battle ive been actively fighting since ive been staff

[white pagoda]

All I see is a room full of spriters and I have to stop myself from asking for specific sprites that I would love.

[midnight saddle]

I just wish this didn't escalate like this, this all started over freaking out over a lil AI used as placeholder, it shouldn't of turned like this

[neon shore]

I just... Look. I say these things because I want this place to get better. If and when it does, I'll be glad to contribute to the game once again. But I just can't bring myself to do that right now, with the current state of things.

[fast hearth]

Theres was só much nonsense and drama in the past 2 hours here

Love It ❤️

[astral dagger]

Several people writing still.

[wooden kindle]

that’s surprising

[soft ermine]

Almost as scary as this.

[dense cypress]

We’re doing our best to make this the best thing possible, and we’re open to feedback on part of the community, but it’s important to make statements coming from the intention to help rather than throwing hate to what’s happening, I’m not saying that’s what happened but there’s always a proper way to make things better without starting a fight against the staff
We’re literally just volunteers trying to help

[nova raptor]

What has happened to my beautiful off-topic
Why tf is there a cooldown

[astral dagger]

It seems like the matter continues but I am afraid to partake anymore lest Frog throws me out or something.

[neon shore]

https://tenor.com/view/political-tww-starboard-politics-gif-18079403

[fast hearth]

Drama

[wooden kindle]

it’s almost over. to be safe, maybe come back in like 10-30 minutes

[long arch]

what a fun battleground to spectate~

[soft ermine]

I suppose if either of us finally get the ban hammer, at least we still have the forsaken chat.

[fast hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/dahliabunni-popcorn-gif-22679950

[astral dagger]

Do not reveal our secrets to the plebians.

[woeful comet]

i get it, beleive me when i say that everyone on staff is trying their damnest to make the server the best place it can be for its players and creatives, though, we have the same goal you do

i know it wont help with old wounds though, its ok if youre still upset about some decisions and things. just please remember that our staff decisions and the amount of stuff we cant do cant possibly please everyone in every case

[odd minnow]

Also, just to clarify since I think there’s some confusion, it’s very rare for a vote on removing sprites to actually be held. It’s only happened a few times since I became a sprite manager and iirc it’s only for instances where someone wants all their sprites gone. So long as you’re requesting an amount beneath the monthly limit they’ll be taken care of once someone w/ the right perms has time

[edgy totem]

i read this as lesbians at first

[astral dagger]

I would never hide anything to the lesbians, they haven't failed me once.

[wooden kindle]

LMAOOOO

[dense cypress]

So anyways, listen to this masterpiece

[edgy totem]

(they can't know!!!)

[long arch]

Man I wish... stricken with man I am ;-;

[wooden bane]

I think it's fine. It expose the devs shitty behavior when it comes to their artists. There's a reason it was exposed to begin with. Just hope they learn from this

[dense cypress]

I thought the video was longer, let me look for a longer one

[dense cypress]

Here it is

[soft ermine]

No worries, I save the premier spam for the gang

[astral dagger]

I did want to ask why wouldn't yinz just put the removal in a queue or something and get rid of things when there's time instead of even implying anybody, ever, gets to withhold the decision over the artist without formal agreements. If things still get done, this seems like a misunderstanding that could've been cleared instead of trying to deflect the accusations while confirming the main problem was pettiness and beef.

[astral dagger]

Spam most delectable indeed.

[astral dagger]

What's the reference?

[dense cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/with-this-treasure-i-summon-gif-13157585410586563450

[long arch]

... smash

[neon shore]

Banned

[wooden kindle]

?tag rule7

[pliant nova]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 7 DISALLOWED CONTENT: File sharing (software, etc). This is purely for the protection of our users downloading unknown programs, unintentional viruses or anything else that could harm the systems of you all. The only exception to this rule is if you are asked to share your save file by the helpers with the Porygon Role.

[long arch]

Into pieces?

[woeful comet]

theres never time tbh, the backlog of shit that needs to get done "when theres time" is monumental the stuff on my and payas plate at least. we HAVE to pick and chose

[neon shore]

I got a lot of time... You guys should let me remove sprites. Trust.

[woeful comet]

were just volunteers were not machines

[dense cypress]

Lol mb i thought it was The Emptiness Machine

[neon shore]

I am both

[neon shore]

Genuine offer by the way. I would love to be able to contribute in a fully positive way. However, I don't remember if applications or whatever are open.

[astral dagger]

But there are solutions, saying that removal won't happen because some of you don't want it for any reason whatsoever just sounds like antagonizing people and, well, all of this happened, when it could have been a matter of at least trying to find a compromise like asking for patience, finding dedicated staff, clarifying in the agreement the full circumstances of removal, looking for automated systems for it and so on.

I know maybe Tall Magikarp or Razz or whatever else is involved might be heated or unreasonable even but you can't tell me someone's art is just going to stay forever and that's it while also telling me there's no ill intent.

[woeful comet]

idk why i volunterred to do the sprite packs when the last guy stepped down tbh worst decision of my life

[odd minnow]

The reason it isn’t just a queue is that just deleting the sprites will cause errors. The actual process takes a certain amount of work and only a few people have the right perms (plus they have other responsibilities on the server not to mention irl)

[neon shore]

NOT TO MENTION??? is that a machoke reference???

I get way too heated when debating things that I care about. Ugh.

I do mean what I say though, and I stand by it. Again, if you're ever looking for another pair of hands to help sort out removal, I'm available for the foreseeable future and would love to contribute in a positive way.

[soft ermine]

God, this chat really only has two moods.

[odd minnow]

You could always volunteer as a staff helper if you’re interested in helping out ^^

[neon shore]

Memories are hazy, but I did apply for like, assistant with something at one point. If you could point me to where I should start, that'd be great.

[odd minnow]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1100970011574669394

[neon shore]

It's currently time to play nice

[woeful comet]

chansey is prolly the thing you wanna apply for, they help paya with the workload

[astral dagger]

I now understand it's hard, yes, and I don't want to sound obtuse or anything but I just can't wrap my head around the idea that the correct alternative is an agreement that gives the idea that yes, you can deny deletion requests, but that doesn't clarify you can hold out decisions indefinitely over either technical concerns or because the staff voted literal "Fuck you" as it's allegedly the case in at least one instance. I just think that there'd be infinitely less trouble if anything else, and I mean anything, were tried to solve the issue.

[neon shore]

Ja

Ah yes, I applied for Klefki. Guess my standards were too high

[wraith hound]

https://tenor.com/view/inspector-gadget-minecraft-minecraft-movie-brown-bricks-brown-bricks-in-minecraft-gif-11488613102745152145

[astral dagger]

Who are you?

[neon shore]

"I don't even know who you are"

[astral dagger]

Fr they just say they're always on duty but I never figured out what's the duty in question.

[soft ermine]

Crazy chat aside, how’s everyone’s night going?

[odd minnow]

It’s hard to know how much detail should be included for stuff like this since we want folks to read the whole thing but we also want it to be open ended enough that it will cover anything that might come up in the future. If you have suggestions for improving the language, you can post them here https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/782998180748853248

[neon shore]

Yeah this is the uh

[astral dagger]

It's almost sleep time for me, I've got work tomorrow.

[odd minnow]

Goodnight, a bit of time away from screens is probably good for all of us anyways ^^;

[astral dagger]

I'll try? I only use discord for conversation so Idk if it'll go well, nor that anybody would care lol

[woeful comet]

my "its a fuck you to husk" was me joking about why the "temp" sprite status was a good idea btw that was back when we were trying to figure out a good alternative to removals requests for hundreds of sprites, one sugg was "alt/temp all their sprites instead when theres too many to reasonably remove", the actual reasoning was that a users sprites would thus be a lot less accessible to players, the closest thing we could do to removing em in a way thats 1000% easier and less time consuming for us (literally 2 clicks, instead of hours and hours of manual deletions. we ofered that option to husk they refused.). the "its a fuck you to husk" was just me making assholey joke arguments ill own up to that assholery tho lmao

[astral dagger]

I mean, I did see the rest of the people in the picture be dismissive of the Husk in question over the apparent beef and all, but I think the matter is settled enough for me to have my opinion on it, dunno about the rest.

For a suggestion I use the command followed by the text in brackets, or without the brackets, btw?

[woeful comet]

no brackets!

[odd minnow]

It’s a way to create a place to have a discussion which is good. Maybe someone who actually has experience with this stuff can help out (afaik, no one in staff is a contract lawyer, so we’re just winging it too). At the end of the day, we’re all part of the same community and most of us just want to make things work

[astral dagger]

Aye aye boss.

[weak stream]

You have so much chaotic energy tho

[neon shore]

Sometimes that energy drives me to do something that'll turn out well in the long run.

[weak stream]

[neon shore]

Say what you will about me (I probably deserve half of it), but I get stuff done when I put my mind to it.

[astral dagger]

I think my request worked, now to wait for all 5k members to say yes to my flawless and clearly superior rationale, as I've been a great mediator and intellectual that saved the whole project this night

[odd minnow]

I’ll check it out in the morning (it’s late for me here too and I’ve got holiday stuff I need to do irl ^^;)

[soft ermine]

I would chip in, but I’m quite guilty of exaggerating arguments myself lol

[astral dagger]

Have a nice rest mate.

[odd minnow]

You too ^^

[long arch]

Night!\

[astral dagger]

You're having too much fun making reaction images. Your Photoshop, hand it over.

[soft ermine]

IbisPaint actually, I will not be stopped

[astral dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[deep shadow]

is that what you use to sprite?

[soft ermine]

Actually, yes. Already drew furries on it so thought Why Not?

[deep shadow]

✍️

[astral dagger]

I'll comm you furry art of the nastiest variety once I get rich mate, to ensure your future outside of Walmart or whatever service industry hellhole you're in.

[soft ermine]

Besides the nasty part, then.

[astral dagger]

Ain't no furry paying good if it's appropriate and decent I tell you.

[fading cloak]

Me in the background, wanting entirely sfw cute sona art

(I gave up on commissioning people after the last three attempts fell through, two of them ghosted after payment and the third just randomly refunded )

[soft ermine]

Mooooom, they’re arguing about ai in #general again

[edgy totem]

rip

I'd do it if i didn't suck at art lmao

[weak stream]

Skill issue

[fading cloak]

Stfu thorns 😭

[weak stream]

I'll do it for $5. Expect it to not be good

[edgy totem]

this is like the only good art I've made lmao

actually the first gif wasn't even me

well

someone put my thing in-game

oh and this

i made that

[weak stream]

I like him

[edgy totem]

thanks

[soft ermine]

(Just to let you know all you need, I did indeed draw this art lmao )

[edgy totem]

nice

oop

unnecessary reply/ping moment

[fading cloak]

I've never really done non-pixel art that I didn't hate

[edgy totem]

real

except i hate my pixel art too

[potent trail]

[fast hearth]

The director said that they want to make at least 8 Sonic Movies, even more if possible. They already confirmed sonic 4 for 2027 so..
Sonic 4, as per the post credits will probably be|| Metal Sonic||
Sonic 5, maybe ||Chaos||?
Sonic 6 => sonic 06

[wintry mesa]

ngl when I saw the post credits for 3 and ||Metal arriving|| I initially thought we were going straight to Silver to round out the main 3 hedgehogs... color me surprised

[fast hearth]

i think they will want to meme Sonic 6 and Sonic 06

[wintry mesa]

eh... a bit of a stretch

Also why go to adapt SA1 after 2?

[fast hearth]

also chaos garden appears in S3 movie

[wintry mesa]

Chao Gardens were in SA2

So that makes sense

[fast hearth]

unless they may want to mix metal sonic + chaos for the S4 movie

[wintry mesa]

NAh. It's kinda obvious the next movie will be around ||Sonic CD||

[fast hearth]

you are too much fixed on the games order

but ok

[wintry mesa]

Not even the order, but what's getting introduced in the post-credits really imply that's the next story... Unless they throw us all for a loop and do Heroes based on who's involved (and that second post-credits)

Besides, order? Sonic CD came out way before SA2

[fast hearth]

if Sonic 4 is a part 1 and sonic 5 part 2, making it a sonic heroes movie with Sonic and Shadow teams that would be great

[wintry mesa]

Either way, I still hold one major complaint, which I will spoiler
||In the post-credits, we see Metal leading an army of Metals. But nothing makes him stand out all that much. They should've made the leader Neo Metal||

[indigo quail]

https://tenor.com/view/akashi-maho-d4dj-first-mix-anime-come-here-creepy-gif-19850245

[wintry mesa]

Also there's the problem with design. As someone in another server pointed out ||having classic Sonic design for Metal makes no sense given the design of Movie Sonic differentiates from Classic Sonic||

[fast hearth]

i mean, its a machine not a clone, person could have like that desing better and it still resembles sonic anyway

[wintry mesa]

My current running theory is ||Stone chose to carry on Ivo's legacy and is using his tech to finish his final goal (destroy Sonic). Possibly using some scrapped blueprints he made before giving up||

But that doesn't expalin the other part of that scene

[lime roost]

They want whaa

[storm drum]

this show is terrible

i'm on impel down

@sacred crown yeah but then it gets even weirder as to why half of these people would ever want to fund or be funded by the world government

mihawk literall made his lifes purpose to kill marines

[silver moat]

love impel down

[storm drum]

declared war on the entire world order by placing bounties on sengoku and akainu

it makes zero sense for him to be a war lord

same for jinbei

[sacred crown]

It's my favorite show so we can fight about it (;3) it makes a lot of sense for them to be warlords. Again the position is there to prevent large scale war. Mihawk does whatever the heck he wants, he doesn't really take any action till his passions are flamed by the new generation. Jinbei makes A LOT of sense later on but I don't want to spoil. These people become warlords to obtain semi-immunity, because they can't be assed, or because they profit majorly from it

[storm drum]

i mean that immunity seems useless when their bounties are still active

they just cancel the status the second they lose a battle

its basically no different

[sacred crown]

The bounties are essentially nonactive. They just still exist to both denote the pirates strength and their notierety, plus it's a reminder if they ever break the "treaty"

[sacred crown]

They're almost like mercenaries in a way

[storm drum]

i guess so

is haki generational?

like luffy got such powerful haki cause he garps grandson

[sacred crown]

Yes and no, lineage can matter to an extent but haki depends more on an individual. It's like coming from a generation of musicians, you can still be ass at music but chances are you'll be pretty good

[storm drum]

which also makes me wonder which characters have been using haki this whole time without realizing it

you're telling me sanjis leg just catches on fire and we not gonna question it

[sacred crown]

Unfortunately the author didn't realize how important it was to show haki in some detailed way so the reader could recognize something was different till an editor pointed it out. So a lot of early haki usage gets kinda overlooked

[sacred crown]

Like you telling me my man zoro can cut through ANYTHING with a regular sword? Mmm kay

[storm drum]

if i'm in the one piece world, fuck devil fruits i'm training nonstop in haki, because it wallops the best fruits

garp weak in his 70s out here destroying entire islands with a single punch

[sacred crown]

God man trust me it gets so insane

[storm drum]

before it was revealed roger turned himself in it was my headcanon that a prime garp caught him

strongest man alive in the verse

[sacred crown]

Garp is scary strong for sure

[storm drum]

the other guy that gets downplayed a lot

who i think is stronger than current luffy

Marcos

[sacred crown]

One of my favorite parts of one piece is how fun it is to speculate on what might happen

[sacred crown]

Current luffy in impel down is kinda weak tbf

[storm drum]

no i mean gear 5 egghead

[sacred crown]

OHHHH

[storm drum]

even gear 5 luffy struggled to take out kizaru

marcos no diffed him and 3 other admirals at once

did even better in the fight in the manga until garp showed up

marcos is the king of reverse jumping in this show

[sacred crown]

Gear 5 is both the most hype shit ever and the most annoying plot device ever. Like you telling me an ability that let's you do anything all the time whenever Lost to ANYTHING

[storm drum]

but besides the occasional cool fights

this is one of the most painfully bad shows i've ever seen in my life

jesus christ where do i begin

[sacred crown]

I'd love to talk more about this later but I gotta sleep! Have work in the morning. Been fun discussing this 🙂

[regal mason]

Wanna see something funny

https://youtu.be/0_DfbYZsLVo?si=HzV4Qf0KsCaKvZUF

noom

[gloomy mango]

@karmic spear If you want to know my favorite starters lists here's how it goes.

Kanto:

1. Blastoise
2. Venusaur
3. Charizard

Hoenn:

1. Swampert
2. Blaziken
3. Sceptile

Sinnoh:

1. Empoleon
2. Infernape
3. Torterra

Kalos:

1. Greninja
2. Chesnaught
3. Delphox

[frail delta]

Where's Johto and Unova?

[gloomy mango]

Johto and Unova have a 2 way tie between 2 of the starters. And I was sharing the ones with my favorite starters from most favorite to least favorite for 3 each.

And the same thing goes with Alola.

[steel hollow]

How about Galar and Paldea?

And Hisui too why not

[gloomy mango]

Both of those have 3 way ties. Cause there's no Galar or Paldea starter I like more than the other.

Hisui kinda has repeat Pokemon, but if you wanna hear it. Hisui is in the same boat that Johto, Unova and Alola are in. Where the starters are in a 2 way tie with 2 of the starters.

Do you guys wanna see the 2 way tie lists?

[steel hollow]

I'd count the regional forms as seperate from the others

Like the base form

I mean H-Samurott is great competitively in Singles while Samurott is in a ~3 way tie for worst

[gloomy mango]

I mean, they're the same Pokemon, but with different forms. So that's why I said kinda repeats.

[steel hollow]

Decidueye is bad in both forms rip bozo

Also, why is this in off topic

Did I take a wrong turn into a non Pokemon server

[gloomy mango]

Cause this is not talking about something relating to Pokemon Infinite Fusion and I would think General chat is Pokemon Infinite Fusion stuff.

[steel hollow]

#other-pokemon-games

[gloomy mango]

Oh.

Oops....

[thick seal]

:/

[neon shore]

Zero on his ban arc

[narrow prairie]

Yes all the icons are functional

[astral dagger]

What's with the knockoff Mithrix? Also yeah that's a good run lol

[soft ermine]

I love winter, it’s only 12 degrees outside right now I’ve been walking around my house in a jacket to keep warm

(I think it’s -10 something C? I forget the exact conversion lmao)

[astral dagger]

Sounds lovely.

I have to walk shirtless to keep cold lol

[shut bane]

WWHHHAAAAAATTTT

[edgy totem]

actually i might edit this because people were having privacy concerns

-# the silent was just for a separated message

• Updated to be more anonymous

Actually I wanna make sure this is allowed

uhhhhh

[pastel brook]

@deep shadow would this be allowed? youd know better than me

not sure if it falls under advertising or not

[edgy totem]

yeah

[serene ferry]

Not allowed

[edgy totem]

ok

dang

any specific reason?

or

[stable quest]

I think i just gave someone my ip 💀

[edgy totem]

no it doesn't collect any data other than the info you give for the questions

well ig it gives it to google

but like

[serene ferry]

we can't trust those link, and we also can't make exceptions

[edgy totem]

visiting any google site does that

[edgy totem]

rip

[vast delta]

funfact: Ips suck at giving anything like specific location

[edgy totem]

true

[nova raptor]

My lovely off-topic...

What has it become?

[serene ferry]

hell as always

[vast delta]

we are now stealing ur personal info (for legal reasons this is a joke)

[languid sun]

should i make it more hell

[nova raptor]

Why are new faces popping up.

[serene ferry]

you can try, but will you stay there, i'm not so sure

[edgy totem]

I decided to start spriting recently and i thought this would be fun

[languid sun]

no i'll be leaving this chat in about x seconds

[nova raptor]

Makes sense.

[edgy totem]

actually (I'm not arguing with the decision this is just an observation) can anything bad really happen with google forms unless the person inputs identifiable data

[vast delta]

I mean if you wanna talk spriting or something of the like #spriting-discussion and #spriter-general are good places

[edgy totem]

yeah

I was just saying that was the main reason why I joined

[vast delta]

Ah lol

[nova raptor]

Ah yes, #spriter-general what an amazing place.

[edgy totem]

my thing was personal data but it wasn't identifiable or anything

OH WAIT

[nova raptor]

We totally talk spriting over there.

[vast delta]

better than normal general

[soft ermine]

Can’t be much worse than here tbh

[edgy totem]

it was because of the tinyurl link wasn't it

[nova raptor]

Obviously, every channel sucks except sp gen and off-topic

[edgy totem]

@serene ferry was that it?

or was it just an outside link

sorry I just want to clarify

[soft ermine]

Idk what’s wrong with general, somehow the ai screaming never left lol

[edgy totem]

fr

[serene ferry]

both

[edgy totem]

ah

rip

[nova raptor]

Restrictions.

1 gif and you're shot down.

[vast delta]

im so over the ai topic and spriters being asses in sprite errors while trying to get their sprites removed

[soft ermine]

This has been my mood seeing the drama, all week

[nova raptor]

Wow. People who I thought were dead revived in #general .

[edgy totem]

oh yeah that

I think I heard somewhere that there'll be no more non-ai stuff soon

which seems weird to me

but idk for sure

[fast hearth]

i believe everything went down after supra disappeared

[quartz obsidian]

oh 100%

[deep shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/kthk-gif-2091843396668302526

[quartz obsidian]

crazy coming from a moderator...

[fast hearth]

fun fact, that problem is only affecting few public free generators, def not a win

[deep shadow]

Got something to say?

[quartz obsidian]

that you're looking beautiful today

[deep shadow]

And you're looking the wrong way

[quartz obsidian]

I'm looking at you, so how could it ever be the wrong way

[deep shadow]

[turbid rampart]

Damn, had ruin one of the Best scenes in dmc 5 with that song

[soft ermine]

Just went to a Japanese import shop, found this beast marked down from 80 bucks

Merry crimnas

[wicked hatch]

is that

[wicked hatch]

supposed to be this?

[soft ermine]

No, I just wanted to show off the giant gundam model they had

[wicked hatch]

oh fr

looks rlly cool fr

[wicked hatch]

welp christmas is in 2 days

I dont celebrate myself sooo

happy christmas to yall

and hope yall be having a nice day fr

please tell me what gifts yall get 😳

[soft ermine]

I don’t celebrate either, no Christmas shopping gang

[nova raptor]

random gifts, tbh I don't celebrate either

me and my friends just gift eachother

[quartz obsidian]

coffee machine

i'll make a special boiling coffee for your head btw, think of it as my dearest gift from me to you 🙂

[wicked hatch]

thanks saber

atleast im getting a gift this christmas

all thanks to saber

:)

[wicked hatch]

thats fun

[nova raptor]

indeed

[quartz obsidian]

your face will become so red and pink with blush you'll pick up all the girls

[wicked hatch]

uhhh

thanks.....?

wait is that a good thing or a bad thing

e-

[quartz obsidian]

ofc it's a good thing

it'll be permanent mostl ikely

but it'll look good

don't worry about it

[wicked hatch]

uhhh

pink face-

hmmm

I cant tell if thats good or not

not to mention I'd be looking like im blushing every second

[soft ermine]

Huh, these are some fancy shoulders by gundam standards

[viral rivet]

Got this little boy from Five below for $5 at the mall
-# also saw a woman being robbed so yea

[regal mason]

.....

Never before have I considered giving myself an achievement in a video game

[dense wasp]

5 seems a bit much for it

but fun

[regal mason]

I'm very much considering it right now

[dense wasp]

why

[regal mason]

Do you play risk of rain 2

So basically

You gotta do a bullshit mode while never dropping below 100% hp as a melee character who sucks ass

There's a similar achievement for another character

But it's on a normal run where you can actually get set up to not take damage

Oh yea and the seed is set

Yea it changes every so often but it still sucks

I'm fine getting the rest legit

I enjoy this game enough to do so

That achievement is just utter bs

The kicker is you need to do it to unlock his full kit

There's also fall damage

And yes that counts as going below 100% hp

I had a better time with rex

Cause the 50% hp teleporter achievement can be fun

Huting yourself causes razorwire to go off

And razorwire combos with your items

So that's a fun achievement

also you can just stack shields until it equals 60% of your hp then have egg and spam damaging moves with Ukulele razorwire

Egg heals 15 hp 3ach time you take damage which negates the health drain from his skill

Aslo thr STUPID BLIND PESTS

[kind steeple]

this looks like a monster from a nightmare

[regal mason]

He looks

Happy and in pain

Also my patience ran out

This is worse than unlocking the forgotten

And that almost put me in therapy

[kind steeple]

real

he looks exactly like it

[regal mason]

What

Why loader

We have MUL-T

He has dual nail gun

This makes me so mad

[astral dagger]

Because Omega punches mainly.

Sure he does have guns but he bashes botniks.

He can be dissassembled but he cannot be stopped.

But if you have Omega Mul-T might as well make an Emerl or Gemerl Loader

[regal mason]

Lemme get the gif

Oh yea I cheated

I just used a mod to unlock it

Cause I don't hate myself

Never using it again

[astral dagger]

He does shoot a lot I'm realizing while looking through the comics.

So Ig my bad.

[regal mason]

Domt worry about it

[radiant tapir]

Mfw the groot puts up a wall stopping me from healing the front line attackers

[regal mason]

Don't you just love when people run away from you so you camt heal them

Then they call you a bad healer

[radiant tapir]

And then you die cause the flanker got past them

I just want to have the perfect game where me and a punisher were just jumping on the control point

[astral dagger]

At some point you just gotta recognize you're playing a competitive online game with strangers you can't or won't directly talk to.

It's gonna be ass to be a support or tank lol

[regal mason]

It's still criminal that wolverine doesn't have a self healing move

[astral dagger]

I hear wolverine is kinda ass but idk enough.

He doesn't look like he feels like Wolverine, with such low mobility and no healing, y'know?

Like all his moveset should be comprised of dashing and pouncing, not just one skill.

[dense wasp]

no healing wolvey seems like a weird choice

to nerf it just make him hit less

[astral dagger]

Make him a brawler, essentially, specially with the hulk throw and the pounce he should be able to stay in the middle of 5 enemies and come out alive while fighting, even if he doesn't kill anybody.

But that's just from looking at other people play.

[dense wasp]

yeah like a supporter

very hard to kill but not a huge threat

[astral dagger]

More like a solo frontline fighter, it isn't a tank you hide behind but he can outlast other similar characters.

[stable quest]

I think its time i make that grim captain deck

[wintry mesa]

My new pc monitor came in, 3 days early!
I’m going to spend tomorrow rearranging my furniture to accommodate for a proper pc setup as this sucker is bigger than I was led to believe.
Then I can get it almost all set up (mouse I know is a Christmas gift. I was in the store at the time ) and I’ll be able to play this again by Thursday!

[astral dagger]

Very nice.

[stable quest]

Nvm not enough copies of throne

Sadg

[regal mason]

So fun thing

Wolverine was originally going to be a one off

For the wolverine vs hulk

I think at least

Dont quote me

[astral dagger]

Thank god he wasn't.

[narrow prairie]

Was that your Last Surprise, or did your ooga booga brain Take Over? D’you think Life Will Change after seeing this? (Also apparently Shortcuts fries iPhones, but I don’t care, I just think it’s neat that there’s A real Phansite.)

[wintry mesa]

He was just meant to be a side character in a Hulk book.
It’s only after they decided to throw him into the X-Men book to bump numbers (and because they didn’t have anything to do with him) that he gained popularity.
And ironically that same popularity gain pushed the X-Men from C-list to A-list in terms of sales

[dawn patrol]

Papyrus has solved the debate

[manic birch]

Jesus Christ 1st the tiny Galvantula and now a life size Driffloon

[halcyon marten]

Has anyone seen the Superman teaser from last week?

[narrow prairie]

Yep

Got an ad for it, decided to forego the Skip Ad button

How is he bleeding??? Isn’t his entire premise that he just tanks everything?

[halcyon marten]

Nope, there are people in DC capable of making Superman bleed, especially if this is a young Superman.

(Not to mention the potential of kryptonite or magic being involved, his two major vulnerabilities)

I’m really excited because it finally seems like a movie that understands Superman.

[narrow prairie]

Offbrands… Can’t escape ‘em

[frail delta]

Alpha

[wintry mesa]

Deformed toyline. Can’t wait to play with Gigaton and Optimal PRIME Energy

[storm drum]

alright i gotta question for you guys

which movie version of santa would you choose to be the real one

[soft ermine]

The Santa Clause creeped me out as a kid, so any but that one tbh

[storm drum]

well according to tim allen one, anyone who kills santa and takes his coat becomes it

literally anyone, because evil ass jack frost became it and turned christmas into a commercial theme park

so some psycho can shoot santa and become the new one

fuck that

richard attenborough version of miracle on 34th street

[radiant tapir]

Do you guys recommend me cleaning my face with 91 percent isopropyl alcohol?

[shut bane]

avoid

[radiant tapir]

What will happen?

[shut bane]

burn

[radiant tapir]

But isn't that the point? It's removing all the stuff from my face

[shut bane]

but not your face !!1!

[radiant tapir]

But that's all the parts of my body that have the gross stuff on it

[shut bane]

but you will burn the non gross too !!1!!1!

[radiant tapir]

So? No pain no gain

[fast hearth]

10 hours straight playing commander with 6 people @stable quest

[narrow prairie]

Whichever Santa Claus doesn’t raid my pantry and fridge for milk and cookies

[narrow prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[radiant tapir]

Live eldlich reaction

[steady verge]

id love to see this game with a pokemmo aspect

[radiant tapir]

What game?

[fast hearth]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MuzETbOPuDg

[nova raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/evergarden-gif-26489171

[pliant blade]

i love the 12 hour Albuquerque

[narrow prairie]

Do you play RUSH Duels?

[fast hearth]

??? i dont know that "rush" mode in magic

[radiant tapir]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZJ0-r9W8sJM?si=sxJOS3TdOorZ5f7M

[narrow prairie]

Someone posted an Eldlich image and the cards on your picture looked like the ones in RUSH duels.

[fast hearth]

i only play magic

[radiant tapir]

L

[fast hearth]

and artwise is pretty hard to mistake Yugioh and MtG

like oil and water

[narrow prairie]

RUSH cards look way different…

[radiant tapir]

Not really. Rush cards have the art of traditional yugioh cards just blown up to full art cards

[soft ermine]

On another note, first session of building the gundam done, have the torso finished, had to break the building up because working on a gunpla for more than an hour gives me a headache

[radiant tapir]

What are you building?

[soft ermine]

GUNDAAAAAM PROVIDENCE!

[radiant tapir]

Ok i see now. I was questioning what you were building to give you a headache, but it's a master grade kit

[small patio]

How do I turn of discord notifications on computer

[small patio]

I have the browser version

nvm found it out

Can someone reply to my message real quick? I'm trying to test something out.

[wintry mesa]

Boo!

[small patio]

Even though I silenced notifications I still her the noise

Can you trying replying to me again? Sorry for the trouble.

[remote prairie]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920016996752564286/1320985801701724231/Gus_vs_LITERALLY_everyone.mp4?ex=676b9765&is=676a45e5&hm=efbdf4329646601f41b84373f53f43e5e8326c4a097e71f76437764c9b64fa26&

[wintry mesa]

Boo!

[regal mason]

The give and take

Fucking hate blind pests

[floral creek]

It's been a very long time since I've played RoR2 but this I remember

I remember I hadn't played it for ages and came back to it after the void expansion and that was definitely a rough introduction to the new content

[regal mason]

Ah yes

The elder lemurian spawn on STAGE 4

[severe crater]

does anybody know what character this mural is of? im trying to win a contest

[astral dagger]

They honor the name, the damn pests. God knows how many early runs I lost to them.

They are like wisps but somehow more annoying.

[regal mason]

Why can they spawn stage 1

It sucks normally

It sucks even more on False Son and Acrid

Mercenary has means to take care of them and Loader has

beeg punch

Like yea false son has projectiles

But his shards are meant to debuff and his laser has a 15 second cd

[lime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-what-the-sigma-gif-9316257842858237450

[manic birch]

roblox has gone down hill since 2019

[floral creek]

I'd argue it's gone down hill the moment it became a soulless content machine. Which is probably like a decade ago at this point

Also, I wouldn't post that even if you're using the spoiler it's still sexual

[manic birch]

oops

[regal mason]

Have you played risk of rain 2 recently Xillo?

[floral creek]

Nah I don't have a pc right now, I haven't even tried the newest dlc

[regal mason]

So one of the new survivors.....

He scales with health

[floral creek]

Yeah I heard about the playable boss

[regal mason]

Yea

That's not the thing

The thing is his spikes

Every health item you get he gets another

Extended mags works as well

Brb

[floral creek]

That's a cool concept. I guess technically Acrid was also a playable boss in the first game but ehhh

[floral creek]

I see

[regal mason]

Every spike

[manic birch]

can't wait for this month be over

[regal mason]

And his projectile lowers defense

Lunar Ruin - Enemies hit take +10% more damage per stack from all sources and have their speed and healing reduced by 20%. Lunar Ruin lasts ~5s but new stacks will refresh the duration

Not only can he control his armor and regeneration

But the means to do so lowers the enemies defense

he also has a slam move that's not a skill that does 1500% of his damage

[manic birch]

that doesn't sound broken at all

[regal mason]

He also has a dedicated move for getting spikes back when the move hits and enemy

I mean

It takes like 4 seconds to charge

Granted he just

Doesn't care

He has a learning curve

But I 100% think this is the most broken survivor

And the hp lunarask gives him like

6 or 7 spikes?

[manic birch]

so like Steve from smash bros before they nurfed him

[regal mason]

Ah right

[manic birch]

https://tenor.com/view/smash-bros-super-ultimate-steve-gif-24996356

[regal mason]

180 health with 54 per level

And you can double health permently with an item first stage

Granted it halves your speed

I need to check later if extended mags do work

If so they finally have a use

[manic birch]

the devs just give that one survivor half of the admin list

[regal mason]

There's also void fiend

This game is not meant to be balanced

It's PvE

They don't care if we're broken

Ol yea

Backup mag does make him stronger but it doesn't make laser last longer

The ability to manipulate your attack speed/armor amd speed/regen is crazy

Did I mention he has a dash

Yet he still gets bodied by blind pests

Fun thing

The day void came out nods were put out to rem9ve blind pest

It's that annoyong

I like.....

False Son
V??oid Fiend
Bandit

[floral creek]

Idk if that's true. Characters wouldn't recieve nerfs between patches if they didn't care about things being OP

[regal mason]

they're buffing him

[floral creek]

There's also the issue of blatant powercreep as the game goes on

[regal mason]

And fixing his alt laser

It doesn't piece as it stands

It's supposed to

Instead it acts like a golem laser

Void fiend is fun

Hes both balanced and unbalanced

Is there any truly broken charcters.....

goku

Mod

Huntress balance is needing to be close

Mercenary is well

He sucks

Mul-t is fun

I love how commando feels so generic

Ah

Captian

Diablo strike

40000% damage is fun

I have phase 4 skipped with it before

I have no idea how I managed it but I did

I can't think if any truly broken characters

[regal mason]

Diablo strike has a leading curve cause it takes 20 seconds to come down

Even False Son feels balanced cause of the goddamn flying enemies

God forbid its a flying boss

There's a very cheeky loop thing you can abuse with false son though

[stable quest]

Damn thats sick

What deck do you play

[regal mason]

Get egocentrism in the first bazaar

Take your time and when you have like 200 cleanse

[unborn frigate]

Next Elden Ring Nightrein boss leaked

[stable quest]

Lmao im stealing that

[astral dagger]

I stopped playing around when the void update came by and have no desire to play after they sold the IP tbh

Captain is still my beloved though

[regal mason]

A normal pearl gives 10% health

[astral dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain2-skill-issue-captain-ror2-ror2-gif-23865346

[regal mason]

You.have like a 30% chance to get a pearl that gives 10% to all stats

?

Ah

Lunar bud

Do you know what he's doing?

I think I do

There's a bu- feature where sprinting during your attack will cancel its animation making it usable again

I know it works for melee but I dunno about guns

[astral dagger]

No clue tbh

[regal mason]

It looks really funny for someone like acrid

[astral dagger]

The second skill is also refreshing so it must be a mod for the joke or something

[regal mason]

Maybe

I'll check when I have time

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No need lol

[regal mason]

I'm curious

If so I'm abusing it for my monsoon runs

Fuck monsoon

Do so well then you get two tapped by ulttwe bullshit

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Fuck difficulty, I prefer playing mods lol.

[regal mason]

Play perfectly then get fucked by a imp overlord

There's normally a thing where an enemy can't do more than 90% if your health in one hit

but imp overlord applies bleed

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An elder lemurian's last fireball's corner of a hitbox touches you, instantly down to 1% hp, a wisp breathes in your cardinal direction, you die.

[regal mason]

I may have used a mod to unlock the last mercenary skill

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Fr though

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I'm never gunna beat a prismatic trial zero damage with him

I tried for like 5 hours yesterday

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Not that it matters much tbh. It feels like a lot of alt skills are just straight up definitive improvements or entirely useless.

[regal mason]

Oh yea his alt skill sucks

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Imagine grinding so hard for that trash.

[regal mason]

Imagine finally beating it then finding out its so shitty projectile

I'm fine unlocking the skins

I just need to practice and actually get good at the game

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It honest to god made me give up the idea of 100%'ing the game.

I was heartbroken

[regal mason]

A tip of you do get the dlc

False son laser lasts longer the nore growth lunar shards he has

I had a 13 second laser by the end of my run

It's normally 3

I think

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If I ever get the dlc it's gonna be heavily modded in my favor because I've heard that the balance is awful.

[regal mason]

It's really not

The only stupid part is the walk to the false son arena

it being stage 4 is kinda stupid though

However

That technically means you could beat monsoon in 4 stages

It's not a hard fight once you learn it

The only stupid part is his laser

But every boss has a stupid move

It's crimal that the omega skin is 9ver loader and not MUL-T

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To be fair I stopped following the news of the game a while ago so maybe they just patched a lot of the release stuff yah.

[regal mason]

The only bad bug I've found is enemies jusy

Casually going though terrain

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Yeah

[regal mason]

The larva are a big culprit of this

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As long as the map geometry is good.

[regal mason]

I love when they fall through the ground

Not joking when I say that

Fucking hate larva

2nd worst enemy

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I remember when the void dlc released and my god run with engie died because I fell in a ditch and I had just sacrificed pretty much all my mobility.

[regal mason]

There's also a known bug where the false son boss right laser shoots at you while not looking like it

But thay is being fixed next patch

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I don't think I remember them, are they new?

[regal mason]

Oh and Artificer still sucks

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The sky is blue and water wets you.

[regal mason]

Crazy how both my-

Why did it just correct both to nothing

Crazy how both of my most hated enemies came from the void dlc

They're great on monsoon

He'll even drizzle

If you get hit by like 6 or 7 at once which they tend to spawn that many at once you jist die

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Oh the jumping ones

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I don't particularly recall them being an issue?

[regal mason]

They aren't

Until there's 8 of them

Pr you're on monsoon

Shooting another enemy

And the sneak you

Doing over half your health

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After a certain point pretty much everything does.

[regal mason]

I do think wisps are bs

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Fucking mushrooms.

[regal mason]

Eh

They aren't that bad

They only have a ranged attack

It can just be very inconvenient

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I'm not a very attentive person so when they appear in groups or with elite effects I tend to get blasted into oblivion by accident unless I'm playing melee or something.

[regal mason]

I plag isaac

So I have built a habit of never standing still in a video game

I'm used to

If you stand still

You get hit or die

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https://tenor.com/view/the-binding-of-isaac-tboi-binding-of-isaac-monstro-double-trouble-gif-11303950018214295460

I learned that from DooM but RoR breaks the habit because when I move too much I get wisp'd.

Or lemurian'd.

Or pest'd...

Or jailer'd.

[regal mason]

Jacob and esau

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Never again

[regal mason]

So my forst incointer with a jailer

I didn't know what they did

So I got sucked into the void thing and died for it

Hasn't happened again though so

The big suck

[stable quest]

God this is such a funny card but i cant build around it 😔

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Same lol

I'm just mad because they are too tanky.

[regal mason]

Eh

I'm used to bullet sponges

I played destiny 1 and 2

Bullet sponges are my speciality

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Oh I could use that.

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That explains some things.

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Ots also why I'm a slippery litte shit in 80% of games and never die

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https://tenor.com/view/destiny-destiny2-destiny2players-please-go-outside-gif-21440809

[stable quest]

God i hate having options

[regal mason]

I stopped playing it

They ruined it

It used to be ok

So fun thing

None of the original worlds are left

So you just can't do the story anymore

Wait no

One is

[stable quest]

I wanna go all blood tokens but i miss out on this guy

[regal mason]

So you can still have cayde be killed

Why did they do that

They killed the only good part of destiny

I gotta say though

After what repentance did to isaac

I really enjoy a game that let's me break my runs

I still have no idea why the nerfed items in isaac

A single player offline PvE only game

Half of the fun was breaking your runs wide open

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Because Edmund McMillen is [i will become back my money copypasta].

But seriously he's the kind of person who would say you're playing the game wrong if you do as much as reject a shit ass item.

I don't like his philosophy for the game but, well, it's his game.

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Oh yea

The biggest part of destiny 2 that pisses me off

I paied for the game

The whole$60

Like a year later it's free

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Yeah

[regal mason]

But thays fine

The entire game is dlc a yways

I'm not fucking kidding

Every planet story is locked behind a paywall

Fun thing

One of the dlcs that I FUCKING BOIGHT

THAT I OWN

DIDNT WORK WHEN I REINSATLLED EVERYTHING

Well

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I'm biased against online games because my lifestyle wouldn't allow me to play them in peace even if I wanted to, but I'd say no game entirely dependent on online aspects like servers, a community, overall multiplayer or in-game monetization should ever be trusted.

They run at the risk of loss and no company is going to give a shit about how much fun you have with their game if they can't pay for it, so either it's gonna go down or they're gonna rip it to shreds looking for ways to make money from it, if it wasn't a cashgrab from the getgo.

[regal mason]

I should go to bed

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G'night.

[regal mason]

I like some onlone

I like titanfall 2

Minus the spitfires and alternators

I do like to play online with some people

A friend and I have been playing risk of rain 2 a lot

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To be fair Titanfall was really good but the IP did pretty much die in the water to preserve some dignity for what I recall.

Oh and ofc a single player game with multiplayer is fine because you still have, like, a game, instead of an online app that can be taken from you.

[regal mason]

No

Titanfall 2 is good

1 sucks

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Yuh

[regal mason]

I dunno if it's still the case

But xbox serves just

Dont

You camt join lobbies and if you manage to join one you get booted within 1 second to 30

Pc doesn't have that problem

I can understand not having a pc

I wouldn't have this one if my brother didn't build himself one

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I do forget 1 exist because it didn't have a campaign. But when it was working it at least looked cool so that's something.

[regal mason]

I went back to play 1 after I played 2

It feels so slow

It is so slow

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Also the mix of mech and normal fps combat was new.

Oh absolutely

[regal mason]

No sliding

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No wall running

[regal mason]

No grapples, stims, ect

The maps suck

No executions

I can't telefrag someone

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It's almost like the sequel improved everything about the first one

[regal mason]

Crazy

Well

Almsot

Spitfire amd Alternator

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Yeah it was CoD with mechs pretty much, which in its own right managed to get the amazing sequel, that hasn't managed to get us more.

[regal mason]

I'm personally a R-97 and Scorch main

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Because we can't have nice things.

[regal mason]

They want to make a titanfall 3

The devs do

The studio however

The ones funding them

Do not

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Yah

[regal mason]

They think it wouldn't sell

Man we still have people actively playing titanfall 1

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It's insane backwards thinking.

[regal mason]

It's like when they canceled that spiderman multi-player game after showing a preview

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Massive multiplayer shooter sagas like CoD and Halo have been faltering and Titanfall has its own niche due to the mech mechanics and the weapons and skills they stablished for characters but it wouldn't sell.

Surely not.

[regal mason]

The campaign could be a continuation

Either the stories of bts new shell and him or his child and bt or something

I'm sure people would love to see something like that

Give me more cooper

Yes but

Yea*

https://youtu.be/MbL86xieQxQ?si=bqC_nFnofLHtT0nJ