fusions

[grave heron]

neither learn close combat

[slim marsh]

Aegislash does

Or it should, at least

Not sure about IF

But it's in its moveset

[grave heron]

i only see tr for close combat

[slim marsh]

Fucking hell can you not get the same results with TM?

I hate Pokémon

This is the new worst thing

[grave heron]

lmk when you find a close combat tm

[slim marsh]

Jesus what CAN Aegislash learn

Thank God we have access to aerial ace and shock wave

I'm cancelling Gamefreak this was the last straw

Not the years of cheaping out on animation

[slim marsh]

Not the incredibly slow march of player character diversity

I'm taking down the entirety of Gamefreak for this

[grave heron]

so basically it learns nothing because it's stone evo lmao

[slim marsh]

Well, I have some good news

It learns head smash

So it can die.

No matter what, it can at least die.

And at this point that's what I want from it.

[grave heron]

well in my mono normal run

i can get this

[karmic anvil]

so i started my randomizer run

and got rhyhorn, skiploom, and dratini as starters

i chose dratini

[grave heron]

no clue how that works but come back home later and you can get a rhyhorn or skiploom

[slim marsh]

Counterpoint

Boom, fixed your fusion

[grave heron]

Already did that

• already have dragon type

++ cant get haxorus rn

[slim marsh]

Oh shit Wailorus actually kinda good

Even wailmer/Haxorus was 500 base stat total

[grave heron]

Ive already done mono dragon AND water randomizer

[indigo roost]

@slim marsh please stop ONLY suggesting haxorus fusions

[modern walrus]

Do a grass one

[mystic vector]

Is Jynx/zoroark a good one?

[sand depot]

It's hard for any Jynx fusion to do well, and ice and dark types don't help each other much.

it's doable but it'll be harder than most to make shine.

[granite blaze]

Dark/Ice is a great offensive typing, hits every mono type for at least neutral except steel because gen5 >:(

[plain holly]

Tbh anything is good in a regular playthrough

Some people forget that they can have fun

I used Jynx/Rampardos in one of my lost runs

[jaunty briar]

time for a magikarp/magikarp run

[plain holly]

It's time to PP stall Kakunas and Metapods until lvl 100

[fluid karma]

Hot

[mystic vector]

ye true I'm only here for the art, I dont play

[boreal canyon]

A lot of people (me included) are the same, making fusion sprites is too fun to resist. 😄

[true jasper]

Mind as well be part of the same boat of not playing the game with how many issues I'm getting.

[rapid wind]

agreed

[mystic vector]

if I could find a place as active as this one for fusions only i'd be very happy too

[plain holly]

ah, yes, a good old regular Ampharos

[mystic vector]

ampharos overdosed on redbull and steroids

[plain holly]

u know what's funny

this thing has Intimidate

[fringe spruce]

Lmao

[mystic vector]

that is the face of unfathomable evil!

[true jasper]

I'll be honest, I'd be scared too because idk what it would be thinking

[mystic vector]

G E N O C I D E

[fringe spruce]

No thoughts
Head empty

[sand depot]

[indigo roost]

That thing looks like it is insane like spampton/jevil insane

[indigo roost]

I would be mad but scizor is my favourite Pokémon so I’m not

[fallen galleon]

I wonder what a quadtriple fusion with bisharp kleavor scicorr and fauxsaw

Would look like

Or also add zacian into the mix and agsheig slash

Basically any pokemon with something sharp

[regal rampart]

I am much intimidate

[fallen galleon]

Can someone just dm me the back sprite of reshirom

I have a use for it

For some reason google images doesnt have the sprite neither front nor back

[mint shard]

Well, you can just get those sprites from like, bulbapedia or pokemondb, but here

[fallen galleon]

Oh

But im talking about the one in infinite fusion you

Not just the ones from debut games

I will check the wiki

[mint shard]

Are you talking about that fusion there?

Because our fusions don't have backsprites, this whole game doesn't have em

[fallen galleon]

Oh

[modern walrus]

:troll:

[fallen galleon]

Well the sprite when its on the players side in a battle

[mint shard]

That's just the front sprite but flipped

[fallen galleon]

Oooh ok

I thought it was the back sprite looking back at the trainer with a smug look

[indigo roost]

@slim marsh I’ve found the perfect fusion

[digital crown]

now make it a custom sprite

[slim marsh]

What the fuck is that

I've never seen that Pokémon before in my life

[mighty shard]

Well, duh, its a fusion

[granite blaze]

Only a 1/175000 chance of seeing it

[slim marsh]

Here's an idea

Reverse engineer megas using fusion

Try and find the closest to a mega pokemon's stats by fusing them with other pokemon

[fluid karma]

Fusing with Arceus since they would just raise the stats when fused a certain way and mega Pokémon just have raised stats really

Plus you can use plates and multi type to make it the proper typing (in 5.0)

[fallen galleon]

I wonder if more kalos and alola pokemon get added soon

Honestly zeraora and delphox would be cool to see in pif

[jade breach]

No more mons will be added 😔

Doing so could cause major game breaking

[slim marsh]

Well, no new Mons except Haxorus 2

[jade breach]

Lol

[fallen galleon]

Oh that sucks that no more Pokémon will be added

But if there were a second game in hoenn & shinnoh then maybe?

[granite blaze]

There isnt going to be a second IF

[fallen galleon]

Ah that sucks

Anyway how close is hoenn to kanto & johto?

[mint shard]

Hmm, I don't think an official world map of pokemon exists. We know that Kanto, Johto and Sinnoh are next to each other, and we know that Alola is closeby to Kanto, but that's about it

[slim marsh]

I was gonna say it's weird Alola and Unova aren't close but thinking about Hawaii in relation to the US it's not that weird

Frankly it's funnier if Hawaii is nowhere near Unova but they're still linked

[past valve]

Btw are regions considered individual countries or are they part of a country themselves?

Coz the "national dex" implies that there's a country

[sand depot]

I don't think it's ever made explicit one way or the other, but you're right. The national dex does imply that the regions are more like states or provinces than countries unto themselves.
On the other hand, there has been war between them, so....?

[slim marsh]

I mean

Thinking about it, legendaries complicate the definitions of countries a fuck ton surely not

[past valve]

Its maybe like japanese fuedal states or something :)

[slim marsh]

Because people know that Regigigas pulled the land masses into place apparently

[past valve]

Yeah! It kinda makes sense they view countries differently

[slim marsh]

So does REGIGIGAS decide the countries?

If people were around at the time then they'd be like forced together by that

[past valve]

Regigigas looking at some humans playing up: oh hell no, you know what: unmakes their continent

[slim marsh]

If not, what on earth implies Regigigas did that to them?

I feel like it makes more sense if they were there when Regigigas pulled the land masses

And that would kind of explain the loosey goosey system of area-definition

[past valve]

I just hope there's a country that doesnt derive their scientific knowledge of pokemon from 11 year olds

[slim marsh]

It may be that there's nothing BUT regions, which I suppose would be fair

[past valve]

If I made a fan game I would make it that u have to be 18 or over to battle

In the lore

[slim marsh]

None of this Assville in Buttland within the Fart Union in the continent of Poopbutt

Instead just

Yeah this is DIRT CITY

In the BROWN REGION

[past valve]

Population 40

Population 10 even

[slim marsh]

Maybe Regigigas is like

The Pokémon tower of Babel

Humans got too cocky so Arceus sent him to just rearrange everything

You wake up and your neighbour Joe is FUCKING GONE

And so is his HOUSE

And his garden

[past valve]

It makes sense theres probably no government, everyone has access to insane weaponry

[slim marsh]

And everything within 60 feet of him

[past valve]

AW regigigas just wants to protect his swamp

He just doing zen gardens but its an entire planet

[slim marsh]

Also explains Unova just as a whole

Mad scientists running around doing stuff assumedly for the vine

The gym leaders are

Vigilantes?

And to be fair

Are more effective than any police force we've seen within the games

[past valve]

True, "why dont u stop that there crime or my 6ft dragon will literally turn you into dust"

[slim marsh]

Brycen is literally a movie star who throws people from 2 storeys up

Imagine being like

"hey is that Jake Gyllenhall?"

But he's sprinting at you at 60 miles per hour with death in his eyes

And also he has a bear

[past valve]

Pog lmao

What a chaotic world

[slim marsh]

And does not seem to be making any effort to stop it killing people

[past valve]

I love it

I would 100% make a doofernsmirtz ass team if I was in pokemon world

Wear matching drip with the girls

[slim marsh]

And frankly Drayden I don't think represents his actual appearance in games because the man apparently does
10000 sit-ups
10000 push-ups
And 10000 squats per day

And wrestles dragons

[past valve]

Drayden is a dilf

[slim marsh]

So I don't think graphics could actually depict Drayden

[past valve]

He's too buff for pixel art

[slim marsh]

He's like a biblically accurate angel

[past valve]

Lmao

[slim marsh]

AND THEN THERE'S TEAM PLASMA

And I don't mean the abusive dad, or his furry son, or the old men that the afformentioned vigilantes beat the shit out of

[past valve]

Team plasma is 100% a bunch of theatre kids

[slim marsh]

I'm talking about the fact that Ghetsis assembled AN ARMY OF GINGERS

[past valve]

I wonder what the recruitment process was like lol

[slim marsh]

I KNOW EVERY OTHER EVIL TEAM HAS IDENTICAL GRUNTS BUT LIKE

Ginger hair is just such a specific trait

[past valve]

I actually kinda like team skull

Some of them are cringy af but I relate/empathise with them

They're actually kind of sad

[slim marsh]

Team Skull are great, I like the vibe of the recent evil teams that are just sort of misunderstood/delinquents

Team Yell aesthetically was a mess but like

The concept is there

And Team Skull felt really fresh

Should maybe move this to the Pokémon Games chat actually

[past valve]

Oh yes

[slim marsh]

Not sure how viable it actually is because Rampardos' defense and speed stats aren't spectacular

But dragon dance on 153 attack isn't bad

[mint shard]

It'd be hard to set up given its stats and typing

Atleast in a competitive setting, realistically pretty much any fusion is viable in this game

[dark holly]

mickey

[visual jewel]

Can anyone do calcs to beat a phys def Blissey Dusknoir fusion? That mon seems beyond unstoppable

[fluid karma]

Use a special dark attack

[slim marsh]

Physical defense shouldn't be as big a problem, it's only 93 base

I joke about Haxorus a lot because of how good just about everything is with it but like

[fluid karma]

Haxorus bad

[slim marsh]

Slap a good dark type on it and you're more than capable of taking out Blissnoir

[fluid karma]

Hydreigon supremacy

[slim marsh]

Oh no watch out!!

[fluid karma]

Oh no, every Pokémon has another that can counter it?!

[slim marsh]

Not Haxorus

Haxorus would just refuse to be harmed

It would say "no"

[fathom ice]

my sprite

[slim marsh]

Doing the gods' work

Bless you

[fathom ice]

no

doing the demons' work

[slim marsh]

Haxorus sold it's soul to both heaven and hell, and now cannot be killed as neither can claim it

[fluid karma]

Man, I just wanna get a compilation of Haxorus fainting now, especially against weak Pokémon

[grave heron]

should have asked me earlier

i had footage of Snorus dying because it's too underleveled

[stiff jolt]

@jade breach can you make a sprite of bulbaur and treecko fusion and their evolutions

[jade breach]

Hmmmm

I could try

Why me?

[plain holly]

#sprite-requests please

[stiff jolt]

Ol

Ok

But because your the first I saw

[jade breach]

oh ok lol

[stiff jolt]

Lol

Also great cilan profile pic

👍

[visual jewel]

Yeah I know but it's Spdef is like 135 and it has natural cure

And it has softboiled

[hidden bison]

https://prnt.sc/1luPy1WAgNU8 why the heck do i have to think about metroid about this on XD

[fallen galleon]

With this i just think of 1980’s super heroes

Especially batman 80’s heroes or villains designs

Or just those two characters from sponge bob

[slim marsh]

You merely surf on the water

I was born in it

moulded by it

[fallen galleon]

Well then what character does it make you think of the most?

[slim marsh]

Blissey/Tyranitar's good stats not being on the rock/normal one is heartbreaking

Sand Stream with that special defense?

Oh hell yeah

Finally a good Haxorus fusion that isn't a Haxorus body

Badass custom sprite too

[grave heron]

Is putting haxorus on everything the only thing you know?

[fluid karma]

I don’t think he realizes Herdier isn’t Haxorus

[slim marsh]

Someone has to

[slim marsh]

Shows what you know.

[grave heron]

False

[hidden bison]

Why? 😭 pls switsch someone wings and hands

[dark holly]

hands, like super realistic human hands?

[hidden bison]

No the sickle of kabutops as hands and the wings from charezard back on the back

[dark holly]

i think it looks good here, it's a good mix

[hidden bison]

This is rape

[dark holly]

what?

[hidden bison]

This look

And i am not talking about the nose

[dark holly]

what?

[slim marsh]

Are you high or just stupid

[dark holly]

me?

[slim marsh]

Nah the guy equating a pretty good Pokémon design to rape

[dark holly]

ah i was starting to worry

[slim marsh]

I'd say the design is pretty fucking clever

[dark holly]

yeah same

[slim marsh]

And honestly the back claws look like a more natural progression to kabuto having multiple legs

I actually prefer that idea to Kabutops' normal design

Where it kinda just absorbs a pair of legs

[grave heron]

Hypocritical

[slim marsh]

The word you're looking for is ironic. Someone being stupid in comparison to me is damn near miraculous, and yet it's been managed.

[grave heron]

Hypocritical is correct here because you’re not happy about someone’s opinion about a fusion yet you are seen with a haxorus fetish

[fluid karma]

No, he’s upset about Omega saying this sprite he doesn’t like is as bad as rape

[hidden bison]

yes for a good reason. this sprite basically takes the fighting power of kabutops. where is leather supposed to keep up with the sickles?

[fluid karma]

Not only is disliking a Pokémon fusion sprite not a good reason, but I don’t even know what you’re trying to say

Here’s an alt

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543958354377179176/629435549383524363/6.141.png

[hidden bison]

wow

nice

i buy it^^

[slim marsh]

Ah, I see you are a fellow stupid as you have failed to understand the situation at all. Welcome.

[dark holly]

Leather? It could be still be sickles.

[fluid karma]

I have no idea why he even said leather, neither Pokémon have leather on them

[hidden bison]

Leather... skin ... Same. Is both weaker as the sickles.

Wings as sickles makes no sense

[grave heron]

What if you wear Charizard like a jacket would he be offended

[hidden bison]

It depends on what you take and for what purpose

[grave heron]

Like a Charizard’s skin would be warm bc fire type

If you ask nicely enough he can remove it

?

[fluid karma]

Someone hasn’t seen Charizard’s up smash in Smash

[dark holly]

You can believe they are skin or metal. It doesn't matter

[fluid karma]

Or his jab 3

[hidden bison]

difficult to say. i am not sure if its skin,leather or scale what Charizard has

[grave heron]

Smooth

[hidden bison]

or some short fur

[grave heron]

Charizard is bald sir

[dark holly]

Scales, Source: detective pikachu movie

[dark holly]

Not like ingo

[hidden bison]

ok that chase a scale plate as armour would make more sense

[dark holly]

Yeah, but it doesn't matter, it's a sprite in a game

[hidden bison]

yeah in this yes. clothes yes but weapons as closecombatweapons less

[dark holly]

What if it only looks like charizards wings but are actually steel

[slim marsh]

It's a fucking DRAGON WING

[hidden bison]

in that case better other colores for that parts https://prnt.sc/4VeZ40R-MizU

[slim marsh]

To you see how fat Charizard is?

[grave heron]

He is fire/flying type

[slim marsh]

To lift it off the ground, they'd need to be super strong, especially considering the speed that its wings actually move

It's not a glider, it actually flaps a lot

Those wings are 100% stronger than Kabutops' blades

[grave heron]

Same thing as saying aerodactyl is a dragon

[slim marsh]

By all known laws of aviation

[hidden bison]

but not harder

and this matters by impact

[grave heron]

Pokemon logic allows Charizard to fly

[slim marsh]

It's still bone, just bone covered with a thin layer of flesh that's not weaker, what are you on?

You ever seen a moose?

[grave heron]

Isnt Charizard steel type

[slim marsh]

Moose have fur over their antlers most of the time, and when they shed it's a bloody mess with flesh hanging off them like murder trees

[jade breach]

Geez omega why'd you say it was r**e

like what

[slim marsh]

And I guarantee if a moose hit you with its antlers you'd think it was hard enough

[grave heron]

re

[jade breach]

re

[grave heron]

Reap

[slim marsh]

The sprite is great. You can literally interpret the scythes to be hard because Pokémon spikes/blades don't look hard

Gallade, frankly, looks like it would be squishy

[dark holly]

Yeah

[hidden bison]

guys ar you not aware that all living that ar made for air have holebons?

fullbones ar way to heavy to lift off

[dark holly]

It's a fictional creature who has a tail that's constantly on fire, let's not bring up real anatomy

[dark holly]

Charizard are way to heavy to lift off.

[jade breach]

WHAT

[grave heron]

everyone has

[hidden bison]

?

[slim marsh]

There are many bird Pokémon stronger than Kabutops physically

[hidden bison]

i know the steel one. dont know the englisch name for it right now. in german its panzaeron

[slim marsh]

Also if we're talking Pokémon canon, Charizard's wings simply have stronger feats than Kabutops' scythes

And if we're talking strictly game canon then it doesn't matter half a shit

[hidden bison]

do you mean in the anime with canon?

only canon-thin i know is by star wars sry

[slim marsh]

Yes. But if we're talking non-game canon in general, then Charizard's wings can kill Ganondorf

[jade breach]

This only really applies to birds pal

And a couple random mammals

[grave heron]

Charizard evaporates if it looks at a pebble funny

[slim marsh]

Charizard also weighs about as much as a baby elephant

(on average, we now have game-canonical larger and smaller Pokémon)

[grave heron]

We have a purple ball that has the maximum weight possible

[slim marsh]

And if a baby elephant had hollow bones I'm pretty sure it would collapse under its own weight

[hidden bison]

https://tenor.com/view/goatis-vegan-sv3rige-fruitarian-fruitarianism-gif-24180679

[noble cipher]

damn i missed a funny conversation

[hidden bison]

This is what I call monster.I love it🥰 brutal destroyer more of that pls😊

[jade pike]

whats the fusion

[fallen galleon]

I think hydriegion & salamance maybe?

[dark holly]

no it's a double fusion of hydriegion

[jade pike]

mate all the hydreigon fusions are awesome

[fluid karma]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543958354377179176/954149259249332244/377.99.png

Here’s one I’ve been using and made the sprite for

[hidden bison]

Allmost all out my team ar like that. I love brutal killing beast's

[hidden bison]

https://prnt.sc/y7XLoG9uIyvh

btw my team for E4.on the way to them

[karmic patrol]

God dayum

[hidden bison]

yes?

[jade pike]

Hacked

@vivid bay
Sorry mate but you’ve got a hacked account in here

[vivid bay]

got em

[hidden bison]

no not hacker. stolen acc

seen this befor

[jade pike]

Hacked

As in someone hacked them

Hacked = stolen

[hidden bison]

yes ok same

[fluid karma]

And then used a bot to spam links to viruses

[jade pike]

Yeah

[hidden bison]

yes

[jade pike]

Happened at a art discord I’m on

[hidden bison]

yes old one i was on too. from a star wars game

[steep karma]

yo i made this

[hidden bison]

Nice work

[modern walrus]

I found

[frosty steeple]

LMAO

[modern walrus]

See

[frosty steeple]

goated fusion

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/910686190351564851/966483523361984562/A5A57BE7-F68E-4C11-9168-5E47E7A67B6F.jpg

i found this in the wild

i want to die

[slim marsh]

Another Pokémon that would likely be good in competitive but sadly useless in a casual run

Prankster Smeargle, because God hates you

A cool custom sprite could be like a paint palette or something

[jade breach]

Wow you didn't fuse it with Haxorus

[jade breach]

True though

[slim marsh]

Funnily enough, Smeargle Haxorus is still 104 attack, 89 speed. Not great by any stretch of the word but if you used focus sash dragon dance you might end up killing something, which is more than can be said for poor old Smeargle

[jade breach]

Ooooo

[slim marsh]

It's base stat total is lower than Bisharp, but spore and Mach punch aren't a bad substitute for that

Especially for something that normally relies on sucker punch, which can be easily countered if you just don't play stupid

Not sure if it can get defiant because you can explain how the abilities on fusions work a million times but I'm not gonna get it

[granite blaze]

Belly Drum + Extreme Speed

[grave heron]

i'm getting this on my team

[slim marsh]

Damn the custom for that needs to have fibre-optic cables

Like obviously the basic thing would be the ribbons as cables but it's not an electric type so something fancier like that or fairy lights

[grave heron]

I just requested it

[slim marsh]

Merciful fuck

Serene grace Haxorus

[modern walrus]

Back again with Haxorus

[slim marsh]

It's all Haxorus

[modern walrus]

Man

[slim marsh]

I love this sprite, but why does it kinda look like the scene from Smiling Friends with Mip?

Like when he's talking and then he points at the camera and his hand is really big because of perspective

[jade breach]

When he's like "YOU"

[slim marsh]

Yeah you get it

[jade breach]

It's you charlie

[slim marsh]

i believe I've found a hero worthy of delivering my gift...

Who?

It's uh... It's you, Haxorus

[jade breach]

HAAH

[slim marsh]

Jokes aside the perspective is actually done crazy well for Mewtwo's classic stance with Lugia's arms

What a good sprite

[fallen galleon]

Lugia looks like its in a pose/animation yoshi does

[hidden bison]

God heaven this remindes me of the virus-groudon from wishmaker movie😨

[formal tulip]

This would be crazy good if outrage was effected by sheer force.

[fallen galleon]

Holy hell that looks awesome nidoking & hauxsour

[slim marsh]

It's a shame, but at least it's poison jab is gonna hit like you had a house thrown at you

[formal tulip]

true

[fallen galleon]

Poison dragon? Poison type is not very effective unless poison jab is one of the multi hit always status inflict moves

[formal tulip]

80 base power *1.3 from sheer force +stab

[fallen galleon]

Ah i was reading as poison jab being used on it

[formal tulip]

np

[hidden bison]

sweet^^ just in general do we have a sprite pack for brutal pokemon like this nidoking-haxorus and the dobble Hydreigon?

[fluid karma]

Sprite packs are not organized by anything other than what month they were uploaded to the gallery

[hidden bison]

ah ok

[wild spruce]

tho for the double hydraigon the reference to king ghidora he might have been from the kaiju contest https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GVF6IM26vqsoLpS-lAkUEZh8XB5Fuhm_

[hidden bison]

fuuuuuuuuck 😍 yes yes yes

godzilar on pokemon i love it

[fallen galleon]

Oh i love the fact that corrupted steven from Steven universe is there

If this is a fusion what 2 pokemon?

I mean fusion is a thing in steven universe

From the look i would assume some pseudo legend

[wild spruce]

344.341 thats palkia/groundon

[fallen galleon]

The face could be from granbull

[fallen galleon]

Oh it is damn I guess i was kind off close by some pseudo legend but turns out its actually legend legend

Is it within the base sprites in 4.9.1?

[wild spruce]

i doubt it

[fallen galleon]

Also is the gmax ganger 2 gangers instead of mega ganger?

Or is it a single ganger

[wild spruce]

on the base sprites i think its mega g

[fluid karma]

*Gengar

[fallen galleon]

Base yes its mega ive seen it

[fallen galleon]

Ah mixed up the two vowls lol

[fluid karma]

Also there are no megas in this game, gmax and mega sprites are used for self fusions sometimes

[fallen galleon]

I know

Ive gotten 2 rayquazas to make mega rayquaza

[wild spruce]

yeah but for some the type do change like with gyarados

[fallen galleon]

For this game i just refers as single double fusion which have megas in normal games as just mega Pokémon

Ive also gotten primal groundon & mega salamance within the game of course by single fusions

I also see a guzzlord & tyranatar fusion in the drive link so is guzzlord in the game???

Or is it not and instead a fusion with another Pokémon

[fluid karma]

No

Contests used to allow Pokémon not in the game to be submitted

[fallen galleon]

Oh

I guess that makes sense now then

Actually ima add that sprite pack or at least some sprite to my game especially the corrupted steven one of groudon/palkia

And is that godzilla one a fusion between zekrom & tyrantar?

[wild spruce]

the one with blue spikes yes

[fluid karma]

If you download the mega sprite pack, there’s folders in there that contain the sprites like that that are references or jokes

They usually have an added letter to the name of the file, so remove that if you want to put them in your game

[hidden bison]

https://prnt.sc/pOz8GuIHq2w5 tyranatar-articuno-Weepinbell or Victreebel i guess?

[wild spruce]

ttar/victreebell

[hidden bison]

kay

[fallen galleon]

I thought that was hypno or drowzee & tyranatar

[wild spruce]

btw here https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1eG6vp7yaSdOPVhdDwe1zGqWt2SqHTKLg

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17SuiLgIGVJR7GmYNjFe01wLDsizIVOrf

[hidden bison]

slow guy i am lookin still the first

but thx😅

[fallen galleon]

Eternatus and something

Dracozolt

[hidden bison]

lol

[fallen galleon]

Copperajah and something

I also saw

[wild spruce]

it said menior but tbh i donnt see it

[fallen galleon]

Oh

Is this not eternates the 3rd galar legend?

And some other Pokémon

[hidden bison]

https://prnt.sc/iRsuxn4j_ZLB thanos-chin 🤣

[fallen galleon]

I gues yea meniore from gen 7

Lol

Thats groundons head being used as a chin lmao

Dracozolt and dracovish ooh

[modern walrus]

Ruh roh

[fallen galleon]

However that houndoom & bastrodon one i do have in my save file

Ho-oh & areodactal fusion?

[hidden bison]

https://prnt.sc/B5NFW_1QF6XS some inuyasha fan? @wild spruce ?

[fallen galleon]

Theres also literally a meteor as well

Im assuming graveler & something

[wild spruce]

it could be just a saber but is from @mint shard so ask him

[hidden bison]

ok

[wild spruce]

slugma

[wild spruce]

houndoom&bastiodon is mine is based on an actual species called diabloceratops

[fallen galleon]

Damn

Well it definitely looks cool

Even tho it wasnt what I thought bastrodon & houndoom would look like I thought it was gonna be more a spiked shield but this one is definitely cool and just fine

But godamn this rapidash & reshirem fusion is just amazing

Hell yea lucario & agieslash is awesome

[hidden bison]

nice

[fallen galleon]

Honestly something like this is what i picture a infernape & ageislash would look like

[wild spruce]

now that i think about it i did houndoom with both sinnoh fossils and didnt make them related at all one is based on an actual animal the other is a mh reference

[fallen galleon]

Ooh a my hero academia reference or something else?

[wild spruce]

monster hunter...

[fallen galleon]

Well in my hero we do essentially have a syther reference

[fallen galleon]

Oooh i got confused for a second lol

I mean gyrados & areodactly blue uses in the Viridian city gym definitely looks like something out of monster hunter

[hidden bison]

https://prnt.sc/EUjRtmzyo6K1 since when is mewtwo doing crossplaying black magician 🤣

[fallen galleon]

Lol yea

[fluid karma]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543958354377179176/561296147256311818/132.314.png

[fallen galleon]

I know i see mewtwo there but not sure if the other pokemon is lampent or something else

Wailord

With infinity guanlet

[fallen galleon]

This yes just would eventually happen either way

[wild spruce]

aegislash look an his staf

[fallen galleon]

Oooh

[fluid karma]

It’s clearly many Pokémon, it also has Gardevoir dress and Genesect legs

[fallen galleon]

Aegislash doesnt have much blue tho

I guess so yea

[fluid karma]

And mega Houndoom neck armor

[hidden bison]

https://prnt.sc/llDiKs1sMtym ok i dont see here any to me known pokemon

[fallen galleon]

Looks like swampert and gyrados possibly

[fluid karma]

Maybe the alt will make it clearer

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543958354377179176/658917952380338216/284.130.png

[wild spruce]

gyarados/swamper with a heavy dose of lagiacrus

[fallen galleon]

Maybe a bit of frailgater

[fluid karma]

It’s Swampert/Gyarados, that’s it

[hidden bison]

https://prnt.sc/z2WMOHnmfRMi ok the weeb shall stepp forward😏

[fluid karma]

That’s not even a good sprite, the proportions and perspective are all wack

[fallen galleon]

Theres definitely gonna be a ton of that art of that

[wild spruce]

meh i prefer the horny gardevoir/corsola

[hidden bison]

ther was some one too much looking hentai XD

[fluid karma]

There was one user who made a ton of booba Gardevoir sprites, he’s banned now

[fallen galleon]

Oh

[hidden bison]

kay

https://prnt.sc/4f9qI77R8w3i nice work

[fallen galleon]

Tyranatar & gyrados

Definitely a “imposter rayquaza”

[hidden bison]

I was just about to say

[fluid karma]

Here’s a little sprite I made recently

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543958354377179176/963932350532685944/291.100.png

It’s no moon
It’s a space station

[modern walrus]

Ball

[fallen galleon]

Yes i saw that one in gaeme

Its elecrode and gollet right?

[modern walrus]

Voltorb/Beldum

[fallen galleon]

Yea

[fluid karma]

Beldum/Voltorb

[hidden bison]

deadstar beldum/Voltorb XD

[fallen galleon]

I got confused by colour & size lol

[modern walrus]

Dang

That's C-c-c-crazy

[hidden bison]

well some really nice sprites

[fallen galleon]

I wonder if theres a sprite sheet or something of a theme of other video game characters possibly

[fluid karma]

The closest thing is the jokes folder in the sprite packs

[fallen galleon]

Basically what truegreen7 did with what it other video game characters were Pokémon

[fallen galleon]

Ooh

[wild spruce]

nope only way is to use the mega sprite pack and search the joke folder

[fallen galleon]

Oh

[hidden bison]

btw who is responible for drillbee-Weepinbell XD this looks so wrong

[wild spruce]

the what?

[hidden bison]

wait i hav to start the game

[fallen galleon]

Beedrill & weepin bell

What does that look like

Is it basically just a jackhammer

[hidden bison]

https://prnt.sc/9cTHLCfnBod6

[wild spruce]

oh...

[hidden bison]

maybe my brain is just .....well or this is wrong XD

I showed this to a friend yesterday, the whole dex I have free to date, and he couldn't stop laughing.

but maybe his and my mind ar just......dirty XD

[fallen galleon]

Oh my god i thought it would be a jack hammer but a mouth there or essentially that part oh god not what I thought

[hidden bison]

i know😅

but tbh i like your guys humor XD some other aktuell sprites look same funny in many ways

[fallen galleon]

What what if amooguss fused with nose pass to actually make amongus

Or some other amongus shaped Pokémon

[heady trellis]

not specifically for making horny gardevoirs but it was a thing he was known for

[low sonnet]

Does anybody have any good Avalugg fusions? I feel like it would be a good base for a fusion

[fallen galleon]

I feel like avalugg & bastrodon would look cool but idk or avalugg & groundon maybe if you have it? Or maybe even some fire type starter

[low sonnet]

Currently I’m drawing a pallosand and Avalugg fusion, basically the base Avalugg has a sandcastle on top of it along with a glass dome to make it look like Snowglobe

[fallen galleon]

Ooh sounds interesting

You could also maybe put some big flag on top of a sandy icy hill on it

[fluid karma]

None of those are in the game if that’s what you’re intending to use then for

[fallen galleon]

Can still make em even if its not in the game

You can but if pokemon areant in the game you could technically still make em

[coarse rain]

Why is this a thing

[fallen galleon]

Wheres its spine lol

It barely even has one lol

[coarse rain]

Lol ye

It only has a spine

[grave heron]

hitmonsharp

[coarse rain]

Elongated man

[gusty geyser]

The same reason this is.

[coarse rain]

Anime power ranger thing

[fallen galleon]

Looks like some super hero or something

[gusty geyser]

Lol yeah

Idk found it and wanted to share it 🙂

[fluid karma]

Looks like Kamen Rider

[low sonnet]

What are some good looking hoothoot fusions?

[dark holly]

just a lil guy

[karmic patrol]

Regimini

[fallen galleon]

Yes

[wanton surge]

I was Looking for Fusions with Blaziken

and i Found this one

it´s an auto made one

but seems really good

some fixes here and there

and it´s done

i wish i knew how to Pixelart

[modern walrus]

I mean

You can

You can look at spriting guidelines

[wanton surge]

but like...

making it look good

[fluid karma]

You can use #sprite-requests

[wanton surge]

nah, i´m not requesting, i just wanted to share it

[modern walrus]

Man

[wanton surge]

?

[hidden bison]

https://prnt.sc/FIzeWHB76gyw nice thing. i was looking for an good lanturn combination but this is so far best match.

[spring siren]

chinchou combinations are better

[hidden bison]

https://prnt.sc/95KG-qX9DNbQ well this is interessting🤔

[modern walrus]

Yooo

Thats cool

[hidden bison]

like space ship or submarine not sure

[modern walrus]

I think submarine to fit the water theme

[hidden bison]

https://prnt.sc/jmuxvONbKfUg too much chrismas 🤣

[modern walrus]

Tru

[jade breach]

Look at lanturn dusknoir

[hidden bison]

i have already dusknoir. i fused it wiht slaking

[fluid karma]

scam bot

[fallen galleon]

Hey looks its xmax form sceptile

[velvet wren]

Huh... Seaking doesn't have many custom fusions.

[granite blaze]

probably because its overshadowed by basically every water type

[velvet wren]

Yeah, probably.

[dark holly]

just fish

magikarp 2

[slim marsh]

Apparently Lanturn's power output according to the pokedex is many many times stronger than the sun and Goku

And I tend to stick by the idea that modern Pokédex's are essentially to help kids learn, and as kids write the entries, they aren't reliable in a lot of circumstances

But I do want Lanturn to be stronger than Goku.

So I stand by this one as factual.

The Unmatched Power of the Sun Vs the Truly Unmatched Power of Lanturn

[mint shard]

The pokedex mentions its output being stronger than the sun?

[slim marsh]

It mentions it living at the bottom of the ocean, and lighting up that space for as far as 5km (3 miles in the English translation)

As well as it's light being seen from the surface

People did the math, and that's an output of 10^105 watts to reach the surface

Which is, each second, more energy than is released by 10^35 observable universe mass energy equivalents

TLDR

Lanturn's power output is multiversal

[hidden bison]

dont say this to a Dragonball fan XD

[slim marsh]

I'm pretty sure Lanturn would disintegrate Goku

Because taking pokedex as fact, Goku has never output anything equivalent to that

[mint shard]

This is probably more relevant in like, #general or something

[slim marsh]

Yeah I was just following on from the Lanturn stuff, I didn't mean for it to get long-winded

[mint shard]

All good

[fluid karma]

Mario would beat Goku by spin jumping on his head

[hidden bison]

🤣

[grave heron]

I’m stuck with this unless i find a scizor or bisharp

[modern walrus]

Zad

[grave heron]

60 bp strongest physical ghost stab

[granite blaze]

Shadow Claw is 70

[fluid karma]

Shadow force is 100 (but Giratina excusive)

[light quail]

im sorry but how we have the fairy type eevee in these game

[fluid karma]

Because Sylveon was programmed in

[light quail]

i found it in the game files

[granite blaze]

It evolves by shiny stone

[grave heron]

When the tms be randomized and i can only get the tms gym leaders give me

[modern walrus]

ok bois

gaming time

which is better

lightning rod raichu or infiltrator raichu

(he is mixed with the funny purple bat)

the dream team fellas

[fluid karma]

Go to the showdown server

[modern walrus]

i did

oh wait

the discord

ok

see ya then

[stiff sorrel]

Knux can't force you to leave y'know

he has no power here (anymore)

[white lance]

I fkn LOVE Meowfa omg

My little Technician boosted early game unit

[kind ore]

That's a cute fusion

[white lance]

Hits pretty hard with disarming voice after becoming Meowfairy but it much less cute. Like if Mankey was a mlm representative

[modern walrus]

pog

[light quail]

where we earn it

[white lance]

What's a good fusion target for bulbasaur? Currently running Paras for Spore later but the 4x weakness to flying is hurting

[light quail]

how i evolve mime jr

[fluid karma]

And don't ask in this chat

[stiff sorrel]

How did you evolve mime jr again?

[fluid karma]

Magic

[stiff sorrel]

gasp

[fallen galleon]

Level 15 within infinite fusion im pretty sure

Not 100% but i think so

[short pike]

i fused tyroge and squirtle , what hitmon should i go for

[fluid karma]

Probably Hitmonlee

[short pike]

this is my new evolution. i got a warchan

[hidden bison]

wtf war pokemon

[grave heron]

Blastorus

[white lance]

Ok so are abilities chosen between the two pokes getting fused or do the fusions individually have 2 pre-determined possible abilities?

[fluid karma]

There’s 2 possible abilities, read #fusion-faq

[white lance]

Any chance abilities could be added to the Fusion calculator?

oh nvm its in the github one

[slim marsh]

I believe the Github one shows the two abilities that fusion has access to first, because they're swapped depending on which Pokémon is the head

[white lance]

bruh the sprite art for this is fucking great

The inverse is way better for stats but it looks like Little My fell into a bowl of Hobgoblin soup

[primal olive]

i mean, if you wanted the picture and the stats you can reverse it

[neon geode]

Thank you bro

[fallen galleon]

Can someone just drop the in game sprite of flypert

[slim marsh]

You can download them straight from the Github generator

[fallen galleon]

The other way round

Or is that the alternate custom sprite?

[slim marsh]

The other one didn't have a custom sprite

[fallen galleon]

Oh

[slim marsh]

This is it

It got the bad stats too

Which is lucky I suppose

Far too many great sprites given bad stats

[fallen galleon]

Then what’s this flypert?

[slim marsh]

Looks like Blaziken to me

[fallen galleon]

Also that picture was the 1st champion blue fight

[fallen galleon]

I know

But it is a swampert

[slim marsh]

Might just be a sprite in the wrong place

[fallen galleon]

I found it as a trapinch fused with marshtomp so idk

Then drop the flygon & blaziken sprites

[fallen galleon]

I know the sprite in my game does look like blaziken and flygon but it isnt

[slim marsh]

Here's your culprit

[fallen galleon]

Ah so its the wrong sprite wrong time ah i see

[slim marsh]

Github has the sprites the right way round, so I'd wager yours are just in the wrong place

[fallen galleon]

Ah maybe

But I actually do like it how i have so yea

[slim marsh]

Same generation of starters too, so it's likely just someone mixed them up somehow

[fallen galleon]

But i might add some specific sprites to my game eventually especially that corrupted steven one

This one i will add eventually

[dapper dome]

There is a way to modify IV's?

[plain holly]

Breeding

Especially with Destiny Knot

[fluid karma]

That’s not modifying IVs

[plain holly]

But that's the only way to get the IVs you need

Unless IF has some IV Ball that maximizes them when pokemon caught or IV splicers or IV Up or whatever

[fluid karma]

There is a ball like that, it has a really low catch rate I think

I think it’s called the perfect ball

[plain holly]

Huh, interesting

[fading lichen]

I've sat on these for long enough and finally felt motivated to join the Discord and supply the stuff I've been working on!

And my friend made these that he asked me to share!

That's all of the "Hello, I'm here" sprite dump. 😂

[modern walrus]

Yooo

Bangers ngl

[fading lichen]

Me and my friend appreciate that, thank you! ❤️ I'm personally most proud of my Lairon/Lopunny one, the ears turned out exactly the way I wanted them to. lol

[drifting ingot]

Nice sprites
If you want them to be in the game, you'll have to got the Spriter role. And to do so you'll have to make one or several threads in #spriting-discussion, in order for us to discuss about them and fix what needs to be fixed

[modern walrus]

Ur welcome

[drifting ingot]

Also, be sure to check #spriting-guidelines for more details

[fading lichen]

Oooh, I see.

Many thanks BButton!

[drifting ingot]

You're welcome
Also, you made sprites of some pokemon that aren't in the game
We can discuss about them in spritework, but you can't post them to be in the game

[fading lichen]

Oh yeah, I don't know the full details on which Pokémon aren't in the game (yet) or not, most of these were purely for my own self before this came out so that'll account for those. lol

[drifting ingot]

Ok fair
You can also check on the wiki

[fading lichen]

Very true!

[fluid karma]

?tag pokedex @fading lichen

[loud rose]

All Gen1-2 Pokémon are in the game, all Pokémon that are from Gen3+ (aswell as their location and Pokédex number) can be found here:

https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/Pokédex

No new Pokémon will be added. The game has reached its limit!

[white lance]

I have extremely limited design understanding, especially relating to RPGmaker. What determines the limit in our case?

[mint shard]

Adding a single pokemon into this game adds hundreds of fusions. The last pokemon added, Stunfisk, used to just crash the game. Even now its sprites are still jumbled for some reason. I don't think Essentials was built with having thousands of fusions in mind

[white lance]

interesting

[karmic patrol]

At least we got stunfisk salamence out of it

[grave heron]

Stunfuck still crashes my game

[mint shard]

Lol, well there we go, all the more reason to not add more pokemon

[crimson yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/pure-poetry-john-oliver-pure-poetry-pure-poetry-react-john-oliver-gif-15495633

[fallen galleon]

Stunfisk & muk?

[fluid karma]

What about them?

[light quail]

why my pokemons cant lurn any tm or hm

[grave heron]

No clue what “lurn” is

[light quail]

learn

help please im stuck

HEEEEEEEEEEEEELP

[exotic abyss]

Well what Pokémon do you have and what tm’s are you teaching

[karmic patrol]

Prolly just a bug

[mint shard]

If you're playing an unpatched version of 5.0 then that is a bug yeah

[fading lichen]

Man... I wish I was better at spriting Ledian stuff, would love to get more of them out there. lol

[white lance]

wait the latest download needs patches?

[primal olive]

The newest patch for 5.0 is 5.02 isnt it?

its in announcements

and #downloads as the link to download the patch or full game

[white lance]

Is there a patch to update out of 4.9?

[mint shard]

The 4.9 download in #downloads is fully updated so you won't need to patch it or anything
but, if you want to go from 4.9 to 5.0, you just move your savefile over, the 5.0 download folder has a batch file that does that for you when you run it

[formal tulip]

slap a flame orb on this and do a dragon dance and you got yourself a good pokemon

this is basically a faster conculldurr

[grave heron]

No guard guillotine

[slim marsh]

I think someone said no guard doesn't work with one shot moves

[fluid karma]

True

[grave heron]

Give it a mankey paw

Two wrongs make a right

[fluid karma]

Mankey paw also doesn't work with no guard and OHKO moves

[grave heron]

By acting like a fool you might trick the game into throwing you a freebie if you make enough misty

So if you use no guard mankey paw guillotine you might just ohko the trainer and their pokemon

[granite blaze]

Guts Guillotine

[grave heron]

Guillotine is super effective against french people

[slim marsh]

But French people also get stab damage with it

French Monarchs specifically are 4x weak

[grave heron]

Like ghost against ghost

[noble cipher]

@mint spear can you remove those messages

[mint spear]

was napping

[grave heron]

napping not allowed

[quaint hatch]

should've used wake up slap

[fading lichen]

Smellingsalt or bust

[grave heron]

Uproar

[formal tulip]

Moxie, dragon dance.

[dark holly]

is that the devil from wario ware/earthbound? the one assist from smash?

[formal tulip]

I geuss so yeah. Nice catch

what is this???

[grave heron]

Garoth?

[formal tulip]

yes but it was more like : what is this abomination , please end it's suffering

[formal tulip]

what happens if you fuse a pokémon with nincada and evolve it? Do you get the ninjask and a shedinja fusion or just one of the two?

[grave heron]

You dupe the fused pokemon when you get shedinja

[formal tulip]

interessting

[jade breach]

@exotic abyss our query is answered

[exotic abyss]

Yo that’s epic

[glass mist]

Actually, it originated from the NES Game Klu Klu Land/Devil World

[dark holly]

Oh neat

[glass mist]

👍

[hidden bison]

i have a problem i added the patch and now my game has an start error

[mint shard]

Hmm, try #tech-support

[quaint hatch]

think its ased on devilman which salamence is too though

[steel field]

saw this tweet and immediately thought of infinite fusion
https://twitter.com/mammuth89/status/1524051320092733443

Mammuth89 (@mammuth89)

Aggron/Tyrantrum fusion

Likes

11243

Retweets

1721

Twitter · May 10, 2022, 3:38 PM

[rustic finch]

It's by mammuth one of our fave users

So yeah

Makes sense

[haughty jay]

oh my god! I'm getting tons of likes and comments, and they keep increasing XD help

[steel field]

Oh rad

[quaint hatch]

yeah noticed it was doing crazy well comapre to pastposts even before lol

hope it leaks back to other stuff

[fringe spruce]

That's because your pixel fusions are awesome bro

[thorn estuary]

Is there a reason my female ralts became male after fusing?

[plain holly]

I guess the gender is random after fusing but I won't tell for sure

[thorn estuary]

That's unfortunate. I even made her the body 😦

[plain holly]

I had 4 genderless and 2 female mons in my team, while none of the original mons were genderless, some of them had the same gender as their fusion partner, and one of my female team members is male + male fusion

[thorn estuary]

Lol, yeah I think it's random then

[hybrid cave]

nice

[modern walrus]

True

[edgy marsh]

i like how blissey is forced to be a head of the fusion

otherwise they get like -140 on bst

[fading lichen]

lmao

Amazing. 😂

[grave heron]

ouch

[fringe spruce]

Ouxh

[marble sedge]

I'm wondering how do you guys decide which two you'll fuse next? I'm no good at spriting but I think it would be fun to just hit two random Pokemon and make it no matter what it lands on. (Unless it has a fusion already)

I'm sure the process is different for different people, though. Just curious.

[plain holly]

I either look at the #sprite-charts, makе teammates for myself, or enter the contests

Or sometimes I get requests but I don't do them often cuz I usually have lots of work to be done first

[dark holly]

yeah

[plain holly]

But you can check #sprite-requests for some ideas and make a sprite for someone

[dark flare]

how do i navigate sprite packs?

[mint shard]

Hmm, what are you looking for?

[dark flare]

Well I dont know if its in there but i liked the Donphan/Mamoswine that was white in the online fuser but I ended up with a brown one

i want this one

[mint shard]

Well that'd be an alt. If you download the full sprite pack, there's a folder for alts in the custombattlers folder. Then you'll find the pokemon by its pokedex number, in this case it's 232.274 (Head.Body). Then, to use that one in your game you'd drag it into the custombattlers folder in your game's folder

[dark flare]

ok cool thanks

[mint shard]

If you wanna save time looking for it though, just rename that image you've got to 232.274 and put it in your game's custombattlers folder

[old verge]

idk which one i want would be cooler to have. on the one hand one is just simply better stat wise, but on the other hand, rock dragon is a combo i really like

[old verge]

screw it rock dragon time. now would mold breaker be more useful than swift swim

[grave heron]

oh mold breaker is SUPER useful

especially the part where it doesnt work.

[old verge]

[grave heron]

but if you fuse it with bidoof for simple

you've wasted your time again because simple doesnt work!!!

[distant wraith]

Is there a list of all abilities that don't work ? :p

[grave heron]

All abilities work

[fluid karma]

No

[mint shard]

That isn't true, stop giving people mis-info

[fluid karma]

Never trust anything R says, he constantly gives misinformation for some reason

[mint shard]

afaik there isn't a list. Off the top of my head I know Simple doesn't work and Stance Change is broken, there's probably more though

[grave heron]

I’ve tested mold breaker when i had a haxorus on shedinja, mold breaker is broken

[old verge]

i need to fix my cranidos cuz he has it because i chose mold breaker before you said the 2nd part

[fluid karma]

Who knows if he's lying or not though

[grave heron]

Don’t look for when I provided pictures tho, totally a lie tho smh

[rustic finch]

multiple reports

[formal tulip]

what other abbillities are broken beside:
-mold breaker
-simpel
-stance change

[slender gorge]

Reshirams and Zekroms abilities don’t work either (them being basically renamed mold breaker this makes sense) but from what i hear version 5 fixes a lot of these abilities

[granite blaze]

Tinted Lens doesn't work as well

[slim marsh]

Haxorus fusions don't need Mold Breaker to be the best

[grave heron]

Having an ability that does nothing will prolly hurt the pokemon more

[mint spear]

chansey stronger since eviolite

[wintry solstice]

Ah yes, when running Truant is better than Mold Breaker, because Truant does "Something"

[grave heron]

I had aegislash lopunny, i had to run the useless stance change because klutz was worse than nothing

[wintry solstice]

Tbh, never seen the value in running stance change on a fusion

[grave heron]

not having an ability is better than having an ability that makes your item useless for no upside

[wintry solstice]

No like, even when it is a functional ability you can pick

[grave heron]

i think its so you can trade items to the opponent like a flame or toxic orb or sticky barb and not having the negative effects of the item hurt you

[mint shard]

The idea of switching your offence and defence for some fusions does seem like it'd be fun, like imagine Aegislash/Shuckle for example. There could be fun pokemon to use stance change with if it worked

[grave heron]

but for now im stuck with power trick

super good attack stat but you die to any physical

[rapid wind]

Pixelate doesn’t work either

In 4.9

Idk if it works in 5.0

[granite blaze]

I would think that it would treat the aegislash half of the fusion as having the respective forme's stats

[wintry solstice]

No, not talking about klutz, I understand the value of that. don't understand why you'd run STANCE CHANGE on a fused Pokemon

[grave heron]

Stance change doesn’t work so im able to use power trick to get huge attack stat

[wintry solstice]

Are you just disregarding what I'm asking

[grave heron]

Stance change SHOULD have the effect of changing the defence stat with the attack stat

@wintry solstice look at this fusion

if stance changed worked, you would trade your attack stat of 60 for a defence stat of 136

your attack stat would effectively be 136 when you use an attacking move

but your defence would be 136 if you used king's shield

do you understand?

[wintry solstice]

Yeah but like, personally I don't understand the value of such a thing

One unlucky turn and you'll cripple yourself

[grave heron]

thats why.. you have... other pokemon..

[fluid karma]

Also note that using stat raising moves doesn't change shape, so you could use swords dance while in shield form

[wintry solstice]

Also, in some situations isn't it theoretically possible to have a fusion

Where it's offensive stat is higher on the shielded stance

Than in it's sword stance

[fluid karma]

Unlikely

Stance change doesn't swap attack and defense, it changes Aegislash's form

Shield and blade form Aegislash have different stats, so if it worked properly the fusion would just have differently calculated stats when switching

[grave heron]

sure, with some fusions, stance change wouldn't mean anything

and yes that too

but you can like not do that fuison

[wintry solstice]

So what you are saying is that @grave heron gave me a bad explanation

[grave heron]

bruh

[fluid karma]

Most people have that misunderstanding about stance change

[wintry solstice]

Instead of running stance change as a build in defense and power swap

Aegislash actually has data for both it's stances

And it just calculates a stat total for both instances

Honestly the fusion calculator should have sword and shield stance as different pokemon, for the sake of understanding the mechanics of it better

[grave heron]

this is the stats that aegislash changes when using stance change

[fluid karma]

Now that I think about it, I don't know how it works in this game, since it doesn't work

[grave heron]

it DOES swap attacking stats with defensive attacks

aegide has it in shield form since thats what it always starts out with

[wintry solstice]

Well is the code used, directly changing the stat distribution with a new appearance, or is it a change in form

May not seem like it's that important

But their is a significant difference in functionality

[grave heron]

it wont change appearences since there's only one sprite made which is the shield form

[fluid karma]

But it doesn't actually swap the stats, it just seems like it since the 2 forms have their attack and defense stats swapped

[grave heron]

it changes between forms that have the stats swapped

which is the same effect of just swapping that stats since the form has no other difference in the attacks or defence

[fluid karma]

If you had all defense EVs and no attack EVs, then you would see that the stats themselves aren't swapped because blade defense would be a bit higher than shield attack

[grave heron]

whatever explanation works for you

[wintry solstice]

Ya see, it may seem insignificant difference, but in terms of mechanics in a official pokemon, and in the calculation of a fused Pokemon, it makes for a whole lot of subtle differences that stack into a pro or con

[fluid karma]

Anyways, since stance change doesn’t work I would just use Aegislash to make defensive fusions and use the other ability, like maybe fuse with a sturdy ability

[wintry solstice]

Not a Pokemon game, but it pretty much functions exactly like it. They made a modified incarnation of sturdy and tbh I prefer that version

[fluid karma]

I have no idea what you’re talking about now

[balmy osprey]

idk why but i really like this sprite

[crude sinew]

Possibly because of black humour? Or Schadenfreude?
It is well done in any case.

[wintry solstice]

Oh of course you don't, I'm just spouting nonsense about a game I like

[noble cipher]

you literally didnt notify anywhere what game you could mean

[jade breach]

Excuse me?

[crude sinew]

?

[modern walrus]

black humor?

whats that

[modern walrus]

dat oddish leaf in da metaPOT

[grave heron]

Like humor at night

[modern walrus]

ah tru

[stiff sorrel]

dark homur

[feral wyvern]

You could probably make that in real life.

[placid ginkgo]

metapod shell plant pot

very cool

[modern walrus]

Yes

[rapid wind]

Beautiful

[dark holly]

Kofflord

[past valve]

this is me on a friday night going to the pantry after a j

[heady trellis]

goober spotted

[opal adder]

@modern walrus do blissey cofagrigus instead

can mixed wall and sacrifices basiucally no bulk

[modern walrus]

huh

what about blissy cofagrigus

[opal adder]

it's insane is what it is

[opal adder]

you were building a team right?

[modern walrus]

I was?

when?

I don't remember

I have poor memory

[mossy hinge]

no

[opal adder]

oh, RIP me then

either way, blissey cofagrigus is insane

[modern walrus]

still a good mon tho

look at those stats

no custom sprite tho