fusions

[jade pike]

k but nah these are my only two fusions
I have other pokemon based on mods from a different discord server

but will do next time

[olive sundial]

cursed

[modern walrus]

I don't like those hands

[jade pike]

Looks like a bowling pin

[modern walrus]

Strike

[hidden bison]

Look like dirty feet

[jade pike]

Yike

[sand depot]

Someone give it the scary reaching-through-screen hands.

[stiff needle]

wish granted

[sand depot]

Perfection.

[west mauve]

@dark holly While I dont know the best... and I dont think there are definite bests... I found 2 potentially good combos for eevee evolutions.

Leafeon + Arcanine:
TBH IDK how to even use it. It holds 3 weakness and 4 resistances, but with based stats value of 560, its good to bash a skull in.

Jolteon + Yanmega:
Agility + Speed Boost, combined with a high SP atk, would make this a competent sweeper,

[dark holly]

Oooh! I shall consider one of them

[slim marsh]

Espeon/Galvantula may also be worth a shot

[fluid karma]

I used Sylveon/Magcargo

[slim marsh]

Lower base stat total than the other two, but Galvantula has a good moveset and it has some decent resistances

[dark holly]

Oh nice, I was looking for a psychic type and an electric type so this works well

[fluid karma]

Alolan Raichu

[dark holly]

Yeah

[slim marsh]

I found Glaceon and Electrode, which has a good special attack to combine with blizzard whilst making up for Glaceon's poor speed

But I wouldn't let that thing near children

I guarantee it bites.

[dark holly]

Yeah

[slim marsh]

It looks like a heavy ball that's fun

[slim marsh]

Umbreon/Golurk is a dark/ghost and makes up for Golurk's kinda crappy defenses a bit but it lacks a custom sprite

[slim marsh]

Looks like the alien from the Thing

[dark holly]

Ah

Wait there's trippel fusions?

[slim marsh]

For legendary trios and starters yeah

[dark holly]

Oh, how?

[fluid karma]

But only after beating everything in the game

[dark holly]

Ah

Three types?

[slim marsh]

And last I checked you get them as an egg which hatches into a level 1

[slim marsh]

Yep

Four for some I think? Zekyushiram?

[dark holly]

What?!

[slim marsh]

It's been a minute since I played through it

[dark holly]

Ah

[fluid karma]

The Unova dragon fusion for instance is half dragon type and the other type is a fusion of electric, fire, and ice

[dark holly]

Ah

[slim marsh]

Are there any that have triple weaknesses as a result?

[fluid karma]

The Kanto birds and rock type

[slim marsh]

Kyodonquaza would be 3 weak to ice but water nullifies one

[slim marsh]

Three birds with one stone

Damn stealth rock would be brutal

[hard forge]

Is Jolteon Milotic Water Electric type

[dark holly]

Oh! This is also a good one

[hard forge]

Yeah I think its cool

This one also Electric Psychic type

[dark holly]

Oh yeah

[hard forge]

Gost eletric jolteon gengar

And it gets levitate

[jade pike]

At what canvas size do y’all do these sprites

[slim marsh]

If only Eelektross was an option

Someone would surely find a good single-type electric to pair it with

[spring siren]

96x96

[jade pike]

Ah thanks

[mystic vector]

you know.. a game in which fusions is part of the mechanic from the getgo would be cool

[fluid karma]

…what do you think this game is?

[placid fulcrum]

Freeze Dry moment

[slim marsh]

Zekyushiram enters the chat

[slim marsh]

Just realised Aegislash + Haxorus

Or Doublade + Haxorus rather

No Guard + Guillotine

And with dragon dance to make up for bad speed

[fluid karma]

No guard doesn’t work with OHKO moves

[grave heron]

And mankey’s paw

[tawdry geyser]

You battle a fusion as your first Pokémon. You get access to the fusing item as soon as you can buy Pokéballs

[mystic vector]

you mean this rom hack? yes

but is not an official game

[tawdry geyser]

A game is a game?

[mystic vector]

I should have had rephrased better

[tawdry geyser]

If you mean an official Pokémon game by Nintendo then I doubt it'll happen

[mystic vector]

or pokemon-like

[fluid karma]

This isn’t a rom hack

[rapid wind]

woah im fighting one of my sprites

[rustic finch]

Eyoo

[shy walrus]

So this thing with Eviolite seems nigh unkillable. What moveset would you run on it?

[slim marsh]

I mean I'd probably do Chansey or Dusclops + a fully evolved Pokémon instead?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the Chansey half isn't evolved, eviolite should work regardless right?

Dusknois + Chansey is better for example, but the good version sadly has an autogen sprite

Chansey + Shuckle is good but has way more weaknesses than normal ghost

Cofagrigus + Chansey, better stats and same typing

Again, no custom sprite

Ah, okay, here's one

You could do Aegislash + Chansey with an eviolite and you'd get Kings Shield over protect

That being said + Dusclops would obviously give you stuff like will-o-wisp

[mint shard]

Blissey/dusclops is pretty good

[slim marsh]

Oh yeah I wasn't even thinking you could fully evolve chansey

That being said, you can apply the same logic to Doublade + Blissey

It just depends on what you want your stats to look like

76 is pretty average attack, but you would still get swords dance

So if you want, Blissey/Doublade could be a tank and sweeper with slightly worse special defense but greater physical defense than Blissey/dusclops

[regal rampart]

i think this is my new favorite sprite LMAO
(not mine, it's in the new sprite pack 76 in alts

[slim marsh]

Also should be noted Doublade means it can have automatise but I have no clue if that would make up for the poor speed stat

[mint shard]

Usually you won't need to worry about its speed anyway if it's gonna be tanking

[slim marsh]

Yeah I just figured it was notable

I will say that Doublade/Blissey being used for attack as well as tanking wouldn't have many STAB moves

I'm seeing shadow claw for ghost and facade for normal

But it also gets iron defense

Oh here's something

Blissey + Dusclops could have night shade over seismic toss

Which seems like a small thing, but might be more likely to hit wonder guard fusions

[heady trellis]

@small flax

[small flax]

AAAA thank you so much!!!!!

its my favorite ive made im really proud of it tysm!!!!

[regal rampart]

Ayyee, you've got good taste. It's hilariously good XD

[shy walrus]

Wouldn’t the Eviolite give 1.5x the defenses if they’re both unevolved like on a nonfused mon? If I’m reading the FAQ right Blissey/Dusclops only gets 1.25x defenses.

[mint shard]

Eviolite only gives 1.25x defences reguardless of if its one side unevolved or both

[shy walrus]

Oh wow that’s nerfed.

[mint shard]

Yeah. For balancing reasons, given the whole fusion mechanic and all

[shy walrus]

Yeah that makes sense.

[small flax]

beheheh thank you!!!

[shy walrus]

So I’m wanting to make a mono ghost team with normal, dark, fairy, fighting, and steel typings in addition to my starter. Any recommendations for any of those combinations?

[rustic finch]

Design or stat wise?

Blissey for normal is great either way

[fluid karma]

Chansey is better with Eviolite

[rustic finch]

Yes

[shy walrus]

Stats mostly. I’ll do either blissclops or Chanslash for normal. Probably dusknoir/Tyranitar for dark.

But design is a plus.

[slim marsh]

It's a bit Cheesy I suppose but Bisharp + Shedinja is ghost/dark, with a cool custom design and 101 base attack

[shy walrus]

Haha that’s cute

But this guy…ouch! 😂

[shy walrus]

Love those designs, though!

[slim marsh]

This one is good, I figured Lucario would suit well because it can actually be a solid special attacker, which most ghosts are

Levitate would also make it three instead of four weaknesses

[slim marsh]

Another good attacker option, but I would argue it's wasted potential because I'd personally use Lucario for a special attacker in this instance

[shy walrus]

Oh that’s cool, though.

Iron fist, too

[slim marsh]

Luckily Golurk and Bisharp's good option is the ground/steel one because uh

We don't

Talk about Gosharp.

[shy walrus]

Omg it’s a rocket lol

[slim marsh]

Honestly you have way better options than Golurk for ghost types but I've gotta represent my boy

Plus Golurk and Clefable have similar base stat totals so it's basically a net gain

[sleek mantle]

Not to mention Iron Fist-boosted Meteor Mash if you wanna run it

[slim marsh]

Oh yeah that would be good

Plus you've got rock polish from Golurk to make up for speed

It's basically a ghost-steel metagross with worse stats but also iron fist

[fluid karma]

Ursaring/Golurk with iron fist is good

[slim marsh]

Ghost-fighting rather

[fluid karma]

Normal ghost

[slim marsh]

Literally how did I forget this one, I used it in my own playthrough...

It depends on your version because apparently stance change doesn't work currently, but honestly judging by it's stats stance change may not have been as useful as I thought?

It's just better Golurk, really

[mint spear]

its objectively worse than blissey/dusclops

[shy walrus]

Yeah I didn’t realize Eviolite was only 1.25 regardless.

[mint spear]

pretty sure it isn't

it was

but i think they undid that

[shy walrus]

If it’s 1.5 if both are unevolved and 1.25 when one is then Chansclops stats would be better. That’s how I thought that worked.

[shy walrus]

So I think I’ve settled on my ghost team. I think it’ll be a blast once I get it put together.

[mint shard]

Those are some pretty nice choices. Remember not to pick Stance Change for Aegislash since it doesn't work

[shy walrus]

Oh I’m definitely picking Flash Fire to negate that Fire weakness.

[mint shard]

It'll be good too because I think the AI will still try to hit you with fire moves

[shy walrus]

I think this would be fun, too, but which Gale Wings is used in the game? Gen 6 or the nerfed one?

[mint shard]

Good question, I'm not so sure myself

[placid ginkgo]

Frogman holds the knowledge

[mint shard]

You could always read the description if you get the pokemon

[shy walrus]

Yeah I might keep my eye out and see. Randomizing wild Pokémon has helped so much in getting a variety early on. Lol

[slim marsh]

If you're going Gengar/Machamp just make sure to use both special and physical moves otherwise you're wasting a lot of the stat boost

[shy walrus]

Yeah my thought there was Hypnosis, Dream Eater, Hex, and Dynamic Punch

I’m still trying to determine a good ev spread.

[modern walrus]

Strange moveset ngl

It makes sense whilst being strange

[shy walrus]

Well with No Guard Hypnosis will always hit. That lets me Dream Eater and Hex and then Dynamic Punch because duh

[modern walrus]

Oooh

Hypno should get no guard

:troll:

[modern walrus]

Also what happened to gale wings

[modern walrus]

That's a powerful Blissey

[shy walrus]

Seems good lol

[modern walrus]

It's gonna take a whole year to kill it

[modern walrus]

Grug what am I looking at lmao

[shy walrus]

The other design is better but its stats are worse

[shy walrus]

Starting gen 7 Gale wings only works at full health.

So no more priority roost

Or a second priority brave bird. It basically killed Talonflame.

[modern walrus]

[modern walrus]

just looked at it

can agree

one day I wanna do a full Raichu run

[shy walrus]

That sounds like so much fun. I love Raichu.

[modern walrus]

same

Raichu my fav pokemon

[shy walrus]

You have good taste lol

[modern walrus]

Yez

I always love Gen 1 Raichu

but I mostly use Alolan Raichu for competive purposes

[heady trellis]

alola chu is great but I love the original

[modern walrus]

fr fr

Drifblim and Raichu fusions are funny

dude dodrio fusions are crazy

why are they so powerful

theres a fearow dodrio fusion I posted her aswell

it was pure flying

[shy walrus]

May I present…

Darkraichu!

[modern walrus]

wow

he looks cool

[grave heron]

Saw this suggested in #sprite-requests and i must agree

[modern walrus]

it'd be funny

[olive sundial]

Who let this happen

god has forsaken us

[modern walrus]

Uh oh

[dark holly]

she!

[shy walrus]

Azumarill scares me lol

[modern walrus]

thats crazy

[shy walrus]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t Marrowak’s Thick Club double the already doubled attack from Huge Power?

[modern walrus]

Stop

Azumarill is powerful enough

[shy walrus]

But I want a 280 attack with Aqua Jet. Lol

That’s a higher stat than Zacian 🤣

[modern walrus]

Jesus

[digital crown]

1: poke specific items like thick club n light ball doesnt work on fusions
2: only azumarill fusions with azuma as the body can have huge power

[modern walrus]

Damn

Absolutely denied

[rugged pike]

wheeze

BUT WHY IS HE SO CUTE

[noble cipher]

Happy boi

[modern walrus]

Squish

[digital crown]

"meowchu" sounds like the name of some twitch thot or anime loli

[rugged pike]

should i or shouldnt i

[rugged pike]

IT DOES

[modern walrus]

No

[rugged pike]

no? okie

XD

[modern walrus]

Man now I hate it

[digital crown]

sorry lol

[rugged pike]

bruh what

Hoot...dle?

how do you pronounce that lmao

[jade pike]

hoodle i assume
the t is silent like my tears at night

[rugged pike]

WTF IS IT'S "big red"??

ITS BIG RED?

[jade pike]

what pokemon

[modern walrus]

Big red what?

[rugged pike]

Hootdle

IT JUST SAYS BIG RED

[jade pike]

nose

[modern walrus]

Ruh roh

[rugged pike]

Where do you see a nose

XD

HAIRY OWL LMAO

[jade pike]

at the eyes
no beak

the line under it is the true mouth

[rugged pike]

:0

[jade pike]

light red

big light red

pinkish almost

[slim marsh]

Wait did they remove being able to select any ability from the two Pokémon?????

[fluid karma]

You never were able to do that

[rugged pike]

Stan (pokemon) Lee

No comment.

[fluid karma]

In the game it’s Stanlee and Hitmonler

[rugged pike]

yes

But here you got the creator of marvel

and... that guy

[fluid karma]

No, you have the Marvel guy in the game, not in these images

[rugged pike]

ik ik

[rugged pike]

I kNoW

[grave heron]

That is stan lee

[hidden bison]

why🤨

[grave heron]

Did you know he is stan lee?

[fluid karma]

You know Stan Lee, right?

[rugged pike]

I wAs UsInG aNoThEr FuSiOn GeNeRaToR aNd SaW tHaT aNd ThOuGhT iT fUnNy

BRUH

I KNOW WHO STAN LEE IS

[grave heron]

Stan lee is a cool guy

[rugged pike]

._.

[fluid karma]

Stan Lee? Who’s that?

[rugged pike]

yeah no i give up

[modern walrus]

Stanlee?

Ya mean Stanmonlee?

[fluid karma]

No

[modern walrus]

Dunno who that guy is

[fluid karma]

He's a kickboxer with deer antlers

[digital crown]

woah its that funni dc guy

[modern walrus]

Sounds weird ngl

[slim marsh]

We found Gosharp's inspiration

[shy walrus]

This is from the FAQ. Is it outdated?

[rugged pike]

What the dingledongs

[fluid karma]

Very much so

[shy walrus]

Is there one that is up to date?

[fluid karma]

What FAQ were you looking at?

[shy walrus]

I think it was one on Reddit. It was linked to me.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonInfiniteFusion/comments/b01dyw/fusion_faq/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[fluid karma]

Well, this Discord is the only place I know that actually gets updated ever

So look at #fusion-faq I guess

[grave heron]

i guess i know my next request

[fluid karma]

I found a sprite someone didn't submit of that

[grave heron]

got it

(284.336)

now i just need to evolve it

this leaves only 2 mons in my party without a custom sprite

someone already requested one so might as well request the other one

[shy walrus]

I think it’s funny that this makes Swampert 4x weak to electric.

[grave heron]

but there are legendaries everywhere and this one will kill all of the palkias and groudons

[quaint hatch]

why would it kill palkia

[main sluice]

access to powerful dragon moves I suppose?

[fluid karma]

Though it won't get stab

Maybe he just hates Palkia like he hates Chinchou

[modern walrus]

you gotta use Ch*nchou around him

Pal*ia

[pseudo sparrow]

k

[cold fulcrum]

Sounds like a Jaiden Animation reference. A very determined one, at that.

[grave heron]

Most of the palkia ive seen were fused with bug types to lower the bst and flying beats bug

[rapid wind]

lol

[regal rampart]

"Have you caught me yet?"
"Nabro, I haven't"

[stiff sorrel]

[slim marsh]

It's disturbing to me that Stunfisk + Armaldo is a net gain

It's disturbing that Stunfisk benefits anything in any way outside of maybe moveset

[fluid karma]

I'm not sure exactly how fusion stats work, but just know some of base Armaldo's stats are higher than Stunfisk/Armaldo's

Namely attack, defense, and speed

[shy walrus]

Yeah pure Armaldo will hit harder, but adding Stunfisk raises the overall BST and makes it a bit bulkier.

[modern walrus]

Magnezone + Exeggutor is funny

both versions

[sacred yew]

I'm considering a Raticate or Bibarel only run, which do y'all think would be a better challenge?

[fluid karma]

Ditto only

[sacred yew]

Is that another name for Raticate or Bibarel?

[granite blaze]

A run with only combinations of Bibarel, Ditto and Raticte

[grave heron]

Raticte

[granite blaze]

Typing si hard

[dusty lily]

woah this thing looks like a monster

[fluid karma]

A pocket monster

[drifting ingot]

Raticate/Bibarel or Bibarel/Raticate only

[modern walrus]

Rat

[jaunty briar]

or a team of fusions, specifically one between Ditto and Raticate, one between Raticate and Bibarel and one between Ditto and Bibarel

[sour spade]

what are some good fusions for a charmander, charmeleon, or charizard

[lost mason]

Jolteon

[sour spade]

ok

which would be head

[modern walrus]

Lapras

[sour spade]

what would be head

[modern walrus]

Lapras head Charizard body

[hidden bison]

waht do you guys say. i rename now all my pokis and i am not sure about the name of this one. maybe some better ideas? https://prnt.sc/qmV8IWDwmSRt

[gleaming brook]

When i dont have ideas for a pokemon i name him amogus

[modern walrus]

Name him Splash

[still sapphire]

How about Swirly Birdy

[hidden bison]

well, that would all be good if it was just about the water guy but i want to mention the flight as well.

[still sapphire]

Again, Swirly Birdy works imo

[hidden bison]

ah sry i did not see you edit after

this is good

[still sapphire]

If you had a custom sprite for it, it might make it easier to name, have you looked to see if there is one? If so you could always request it

[hidden bison]

ufff difficult. i like brutal style. i am total against cute. dont know if there is one to like my taste

[still sapphire]

You could again request and be like “plz make it cool or brutal”

[hidden bison]

This is an idea

[sand saffron]

I can't get Fairy/Steel out of Togetic and Honedge right? I can only get Fairy/Ghost or Flying/Steel if I'm calculating this correctly

I might do Porygon/Honedge to get Normal/Ghost

or maybe Raticate/Honedge for Guts

[plain holly]

yea you can't cuz of the types order

[sand saffron]

I went with Raticate/Honedge

a normal/ghost with guts will probably wreck house

[plain holly]

you can try mons with steel or fairy as a secondary type

it's a good type combo

pretty popular in IF

[fringe spruce]

Togekiss/Doublade could be a killer Eviolite+Serene Grace mon

[copper crown]

what should i fuse my tangela with?

[pseudo sparrow]

koffing

wait no

even i forgot my sprite

[copper crown]

when i get a koffing i'll probably do that

my tangela has an adamant nature, which is pretty nice

as far as i'm aware tangela is better physically

nevermind, actually

just checked tangela's stats

and adamant is really bad for it

rip

[fluid karma]

You should really be checking Tangrowth's stats

[copper crown]

oh right

tangrowth is a physical attacker right?

[pulsar idol]

100 atk, 110 sp.atk

[copper crown]

also i just got a duskull/eevee from wonder trade

also cool

tangrowth's good at either, i guess

tangrowth will be fun to use for fusions 🙂

[slim marsh]

I think you'd be better off using special attack for Giga drain and stuff

[copper crown]

oh

true

[slim marsh]

Here's one

Great typing and makes use of them both having good defense/special attack, it has a higher base stat than both

But it obviously doesn't cover it's poor special defense or speed

[copper crown]

ooh, i'll definitely try that

right now i'm using a jigglypuff/pikachu, fearow/nidorino, beedrill/spinarak, and an oddish/magikarp

and a hoothoot/meowth

[slim marsh]

Blissey + Tangrowrh has a 603 base stat, has great special defense, average defense (which is a lot better than normal Blissey) and because Tangrowrh gives it leech seed, you'd have an amazing staller

[copper crown]

woah

[slim marsh]

But it doesn't have a custom sprite, so you'd maybe have to find one :(

Plus it being normal/grass leaves it with far more weaknesses than Tangrowth/Magnezone

[fringe spruce]

I made my Duskull/Eevee an Umbreon

[sand saffron]

Ghost/Dark is a good combo

[sand saffron]

ah, my favorite Alola starter

[fluid karma]

I made that sprite a long while ago

[sand saffron]

I like it, it's a bit goofy

[modern walrus]

what fusion is that?

Primeape and nidorino?

[fluid karma]

Nidorina

[modern walrus]

ahh

[pseudo sparrow]

he go "vroom"

[slim marsh]

Damn.

Like Swampert if it had shell smash

Smeargle/Shedinja has such dogshit stats but wonder guard and sketch is the scariest setup duo ever

[flint jasper]

is there anywhere that i can find all of the custom sprites in one place? i wanna look through the art and pick a team based on how cool they look

[rapid wind]

You can download all the custom sprites in #downloads

[indigo roost]

What should i fuse my charmander with?

and doe primape nidoqueen look cool

[grave heron]

What can u get

[indigo roost]

I’m in classic mode just started

Actually not sure can you get mime jr on route 1 in classic?

[grave heron]

If you get an abra

But you should try to get the paras yanma trade and then fuse those

[plain holly]

thinking about using this in my game lmfao

[analog shoal]

i love the sprite for it lmao

[plain holly]

it's an autogen

I'll make customs for the whole line

thankfully there's only 3 mons

[analog shoal]

Yeah

[plain holly]

just wander traded, it's name is
Tails

wow, so many

[gleaming brook]

LMAO

[plain holly]

ah yes abra

the normal one

[jade pike]

It’s just a shiny mate

[plain holly]

yay

[indigo roost]

My planned team any opinions on it?

Are all of them in the base game or do I need a pack

[slim marsh]

Isn't that Primeape/Nidoqueen the bad one?

That Alakazam/Feraligatr looks great though, especially if you have Sheer Force on it

Sheer force psychic with 116 base SpAt sounds strong

[indigo roost]

Honestly it’s based on how they look mostly but I’m up for suggestions

[indigo roost]

Yeah cheacking the fusion generator it’s the bad one but it looks so much better

[slim marsh]

Well I was gonna suggest Crobat/Charizard because Arbok/Charizard isn't great but sadly the cooler/more similar sprite is the one with bad stats

Plus the other one is fire/flying which is less unique

[bitter folio]

If you want Psychic/Water, you could fuse Gyarados and Gardevoir

That’s what I’m using

[slim marsh]

What about sheer force? I feel like that shouldn't be discounted with a typical Alakazam moveset

Shadow ball, psychic, all boosted

[indigo roost]

Also I love arbok a lot it’s my favourite gen 1 pokemon

[bitter folio]

I thought sheer force was only physical moves, but maybe I’m stupid.

[indigo roost]

Waterfall boosted too

[bitter folio]

Plus the elemental punches

Doesn’t alakazam learn those?

[indigo roost]

Shadow ball psychic waterfall ice fang set sounds amazing

[slim marsh]

Yeah but it's base attack isn't as good. Feraligatr definitely learns some special water attacks that would be boosted

[indigo roost]

True yeah surf would be better

[bitter folio]

Ice beam?

[slim marsh]

Ice beam yes

And scald

Scald would essentially be a (I believe still slightly weaker) but 100% accurate hydro pump

[bitter folio]

Well, my thing with status moves is that you probably are going for one or the other

[slim marsh]

Well sheer force means no effect

[bitter folio]

Oh

[slim marsh]

It boosts the damage, takes away the status

[bitter folio]

Duh

I’m goldfish brained today

[indigo roost]

Togekiss electivire with serene grace means everything’s getting paralyzed

[slim marsh]

Nidoqueen also has sheer force

So you'd be best mixing it with something of a similar base stat and similar or greater special attack

Because that's it's main thing

[bitter folio]

Oh, that’s why I see Nidoqueen/Gyarados around

[slim marsh]

Honestly Nidoqueen already has a great moveset for sheer force so you'd maybe be better off searching for something to boost its stats

[indigo roost]

This exists

[slim marsh]

It looks cool but I'd maybe say that Machamp is better off as an ability Pokémon because of No Guard?

You can do whatever you like obviously but stat wise it's not gonna be great

[indigo roost]

I’m not gunna use it I just thought it looked interesting

I’m looking for a fighting type with it any suggestions

[slim marsh]

Machamp/Arbok might be interesting

It has a lower base stat than Machamp but I think Arbok has hypnosis

So no guard could really make it good

And it's fighting/poison

[indigo roost]

I’m using arbok with the charizard 100%

I meant a fighting type to fuse with nidoqyeen or nidoking whatever looks and is better

[slim marsh]

Well your options for special attacking fighting types with a relatively close base stat is limited, give me a second

Okay sadly the Nidoqueen variant hasn't got a custom sprite

Which sucks because I hate to be a basic bitch and suggest nidoking

However:

Sheer force, physical attack, base stat isn't much worse than Infernape (better with sheer force I suppose)

[indigo roost]

Actually I don’t care if it’s king or queen I just want to use a ground fighting type

So actually I’ll use any ground fighting type

[slim marsh]

Okay that expands the options

[indigo roost]

Perhaps this?

[slim marsh]

Majorly lowers Blazikens base stat, and I don't know if thick club works on fusions

But if it does it could be good. Speed boost + 212 base attack isn't awful

[indigo roost]

I love this so much

[slim marsh]

The perfect Pokémon.

[slim marsh]

That might actually be quite good I'm not sure

[indigo roost]

@slim marsh I challenge you to a cursed pokmon off

We try to find the most cursed Pokémon fusion ever

[slim marsh]

Oh I already win

[indigo roost]

Oh yeah Here is mine

[bitter folio]

This reminds me of a shirt I own of Quagsire just going “AAAAHHHHH!”

[slim marsh]

The one we don't talk about.

[bitter folio]

Oh

[fluid karma]

https://tenor.com/view/first-order-stormtroopers-gif-22468472

[slim marsh]

Somehow two very cool Pokémon designs went terribly terribly wrong

[indigo roost]

In my opinion the big 3 of cursed fusions are togekiss torterra and mamoswine

[slim marsh]

It's the face difference on Mamoswine compared to everything else

Autogen fills it with flesh

[fluid karma]

Try looking at any Rotom body generated fusion

[indigo roost]

Oh that’s a good one

[indigo roost]

This with thick fat seems like an absolute UNIT

[bitter folio]

Hey, I’m using that as one of my team members

And yes, thick fat is nice to have

[still sapphire]

I’m so tempted to use this one day

[modern walrus]

sassy

[slim marsh]

The downside is that I can't find any arcanine moves that work well with technician, which would have been neat :(

[modern walrus]

aw man

[slim marsh]

Any that I can find are physical attacks that I think Persian also has

Unless Persian doesn't have aerial ace

In which case I guess you could get a 90 power flying move, which would cover the fighting weakness

Oh shit, bulldoze actually

You can have a 90 power earthquake which lowers their speed

[modern walrus]

yo

[hidden bison]

A question is the game finished from the mon wich we find in there or will they add new one idk like Scolipede or Noivern

[still sapphire]

Not sure, know all of gen 2 and 1 is in but idk about them adding other gens, hoping they add some gen 7 and 8 mons myself

[hidden bison]

Yeah
But i guess its a giant working progress to add new Pokemon in that game

[indigo roost]

Should I focus on my pre determined team or go off the rails and go with it along the way?

The pre determined team that I mentioned

[slim marsh]

I'd mix and match

There are a few on that team which aren't that great who you may want to choose differently at another time

[modern walrus]

I like the way this steal looks

tho Poison Fire is a risky pick

without levitate that is

[indigo roost]

Actually can i get some Charizard fusion suggestions

[fringe spruce]

Anything that can rid it of their rock weakness

[slim marsh]

If you don't end up using Togekiss/Electivire

Lots of burn + Charizard often uses Air Slash already

[fringe spruce]

That's a good one

[indigo roost]

im 100% useing electivire togekiss it seems really good

[fringe spruce]

How about dragonite with Charizard?

So it's Fire Dragon

[slim marsh]

Super good special attack whilst bulking up Charizard's defenses a little

[indigo roost]

ok that seems good but we still have that 4+ super effective ground problem

[fringe spruce]

That looks good
But it's 4× weak to ground

[slim marsh]

Well, Magnezone gets magnet rise if you'd like to use that

[fringe spruce]

How's Charizard and Dragonite Fusions?

[slim marsh]

I wouldn't use pseudo legendary + anything other than pseudo legendary. Most normal Pokémon are too far under, and the base stat tanks a little, and legendaries are too far above, so the same happens

It isn't awful but it seems like it would just be worse dragonite?

[indigo roost]

What about Charizard Umbreon?

[slim marsh]

Surprisingly? Not awful

But it makes Charizard's attack stats kinda bad

That being said, I think Umbreon gets nasty plot?

[indigo roost]

Or Charizar/Mismagius

[slim marsh]

Honestly? You'd be better off with Char + Chandelure

Actually I may be overstating that

Mismagius obviously can negate ground weakness if you choose levitate + it's a little faster

And obviously it depends on what moves Mismagius gives

[indigo roost]

Think ill go with umbreon

Now i think i need a primape nidoqueen replacement

[fringe spruce]

What are you looking for a replacement to do? Ground type? Fighting type?

[slim marsh]

I

It's...

It's only 4 points away from gallade base stat

[indigo roost]

kinda like noctowl/mismagius

[still sapphire]

That seems really good honestly

[indigo roost]

Anyone know when you get Mismagius in This game?

[still sapphire]

Even tho it’s not as good as regular Garchomp, for a fusion only team, this ain’t a bad combo at all, and it looks cool

[indigo roost]

going to run Clefable/Noctowl no turning back already fused em

[indigo roost]

What is this abomination

[stiff sorrel]

Grimer/Zubat

[fallen galleon]

Grimmer/crobat maybe from the 4 or 3 wings

[copper crown]

what should i fuse a modest slowpoke with?

[fallen galleon]

It literally looks like a scp or help!_tale thing but pokemon

[copper crown]

i know

horrifying

like zubat/diglett, which is just a mouth coming out of the ground

[fallen galleon]

Hmm maybe something that slow could possibly be a opposite to if any pokemon available have it in the name or possibly klefhkey

Slowkey

But the S is silent if you do that fusion

[indigo roost]

Until i get umbreon im useing Charmander Arbok until then

[fallen galleon]

It probably isnt but imagine if it is

[copper crown]

I'm thinking of evolving said slowpoke into a slowking

[fallen galleon]

Make sure you get a moon stone to get umbreon

[copper crown]

i have an espeon/duskull

[fallen galleon]

Almost said dusk stone

Also the voltorb + almost any pokemon with something coming out of its body like ponyta or any just honestly looks pretty cool

Also luxio + rosellia or luxaray + rosellia/rosarade looks pretty cool like it could be a regional form or a official pokemon design

[copper crown]

oh my god, zekrom/slowking have custom sprites

It's amazing

look at that face

[fallen galleon]

Wow

Water/dragon or electric/psychic or water/electric

[copper crown]

water/electric

also, found something even more hilarious

[fallen galleon]

Lol

That face be like berdly from deltarune when hes bouta read a book before the dark worlds

I have seen some funny werid cursed fusions in my randomized playthrogh so far

Especially grimmer & any pokemon are generally cursed or weird

[copper crown]

yeah

[fallen galleon]

The grimmer & honedge one looks cursed

Havent seen the inverse one yet

You can also get a honedge in rock tunnel from a legend of zelda reference

Theres a little area that if you go into the cave there theres 2 lanterns and a old man when you talk to him he says it’s dangerous to go alone take this

And you get a honedge

Isntead i got a grimmer nicknamed honedge as im playing with randomized mode on

[copper crown]

haha, nice

what should i fuse my slowbro with, though? i want to make her into a slowking

[grave heron]

Umbreon

[copper crown]

oh, okay! where can i get an eevee?

uh

[rugged pike]

Look at him

Why does he look like meta knight lol

[grave heron]

The tail be like 🤨

[indigo roost]

oh my god look at Mawile electivire

[copper crown]

HOLY SHIT NO

[modern walrus]

holy shit yes

[violet field]

Would that even work? The chicken is resistant to fire damage

I'd imagine it'd be hard to cook it

[copper crown]

that's the problem-because it's resistant to fire, it'll be in pain for even longer. they're torturing it

[violet field]

Ooooof

[fringe spruce]

Yikes

[somber merlin]

Shift Gears + Intimidate 👀

Then Play Rough and Gear Grind

And Stone Edge in the back for coverage

[jade breach]

Oh jeez

[fringe spruce]

Gg

[granite blaze]

Earthquake is a lot better coverage, hits steel

[dull river]

Also hits Poison, even if those are no longer a problem. However you can use it as a "bait" for Poison types to attack into as a switch in to then eliminate em

[somber merlin]

True

Eq is better

[rustic finch]

Fire coming out of the sausage nipples

[sand depot]

Spicy drink

[slim marsh]

Nah it's just candle wax

You drink it and it's like that one Simpsons episode where he eats the chili

[hidden bison]

What is that?
And where can i find it

[fallen galleon]

Is that a jojo reference

Oh crap it took the photo a second to laye

Its rypherio & magmotor fusion i battling i think in elite 4 or champion blue or victory road

[gleaming brook]

4k

[fluid karma]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543958354377179176/631909108290682882/265.268.png

[wild spruce]

Look at it's pre evolutions

[copper crown]

WHY DID IT GO FROM A CUTE LITTLE TORCHIC FUSION TO COMBUSKEN HEAD FIRST IN A KFC DEEP FRIER

[fallen galleon]

Yess when i saw it i was like is that a jojo reference!

The pose is perfect for the music

I dont watch jojos bizarre adventure but maybe i should someday

[spring siren]

im a big jojo fan but i dont see the reference

is it just because its pointing?

[stiff sorrel]

No, that pose existed before jojo

[wild spruce]

Cute torchic You may have the wrong Sprite for that one

[fallen galleon]

Oh ok

[copper crown]

oh

[stiff sorrel]

That's a gen 4 or 5 magmortar sprite

[fallen galleon]

Its just from the memes i guess and design is why i see that

[stiff sorrel]

This is some 'Hey, its the guy from fortnite' level stuff

[spring siren]

technically jojo predates the magmortar sprite since jojo started in the 80s but yeah its literally just pointing lol

[stiff sorrel]

Oh, so Jojo only caught traction not so long ago then?

also, isn't Jojo some Bobobo-bo Bobobo level satire anime?

meaning, it makes fun of other anime

[copper crown]

JESUS

[stiff sorrel]

That's probably a joke sprite

[fallen galleon]

Oh god

[spring siren]

yep its only become big in the west in recent years but in japan its a classic, the manga started in 1987 and the anime adaption started in 2012, the anime has only just reached where the manga was at in 2000

[fallen galleon]

I wonder what rotom & voltorb will be

[spring siren]

nah its like a legit shonen series, people make a lot of memes but the actual series is played completely straight

[fallen galleon]

At the moment im waiting for my hero to catch up with season 6 in September-November this year

[stiff sorrel]

I knew it wasn't the anime for me when I saw a shark in a glass of water

I'm following two series which aren't anime at all

[spring siren]

lol the shark in the glass is one of the less bizarre powers too

[stiff sorrel]

Critical Role Campaign 3, and Owl House

[spring siren]

is owl house good? it seems interesting

[stiff sorrel]

Its nice ye

Its good cause its disney quality

[fallen galleon]

Im following a few atm

[stiff sorrel]

Its sour cause it features lgbt, so you just know it'll be cancelled by disney

[slim marsh]

How are it's tears going up

[fallen galleon]

My hero academia miraculous ladybug waiting for season 6 for mha & season 5 & movie for mlbaocalb

[spring siren]

damn

[fallen galleon]

And lego ninjago

And i guess pokemon journeys but have to find where the hecc i was up to

I did watch the serena episode already

[stiff sorrel]

I was pretty miffed when Ducktales abruptely ended

[fallen galleon]

I think i was not too far after the darkest day arc

[slim marsh]

I'M SO MAD ABOUT CANCELLED DUCKTALES

[wild spruce]

I mean yes but it's the one that the línea follows trough

[slim marsh]

LEAVE IT TO DISNEY TO DROP THE BALL WITH ONE OF THEIR BEST SERIES'

YOU CAN TELL THAT SO MANY PLOTS GOT SNUBBED BECAUSE OF IT

[fallen galleon]

I wonder what mew & mewtwo fusion will look like within pif

[stiff sorrel]

pif?

heh, we just call it IF

in here, at least

[fallen galleon]

Yea pokemon infinite fusion but in a shortened way

If it has a custom sprite or no

Also would mewtwo or mew & moltres fusion technically be mewthree

[stiff sorrel]

it would be named Mewtres

so, yes?

[fallen galleon]

Yea it technically would be

Because uno dos tres is one two three is Spanish and i think quarto is four right?

[placid fulcrum]

It pretty much did, third season was reduced to a couple large mini movies

[stiff sorrel]

mhmm

There's been a couple fans musing with the idea of water bird too

called 'Aquatro'

[stiff sorrel]

Yeah. Fuck disney.

[wild spruce]

I think there was a joke Sprite for mewdos (mewtwo/zapdos) that was mewtwo with a poncho a sombrero and a mostacho

[fallen galleon]

Ah yea

[patent moss]

lmao

[indigo roost]

Anybody know any polywrath/toed

fusions

[mystic vector]

can a fusion evolve?

[indigo roost]

yes

[slim marsh]

Keeping in mind it learns flame charge to cover poor speed

[fluid karma]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543958354377179176/782026911861833778/3.186.png

[mystic vector]

sweet

more reason to do a complete line

[wanton surge]

Is that an assault rifle?!

[spring siren]

its a tommy gun

because he's a gangster

[dull river]

Lock in Load

[indigo roost]

Hold up is this good?

Does Krookodlile get Dragon Dance

[slim marsh]

Sadly no

So, it's base stat total isn't as good as Hydreigon's

But it gets rid of the dragon weaknesses (yes the STAB is gone too but Hydreigon's main move that uses STAB is Draco meteor

Plus it can get illusion

[proven sable]

Is there an objectively best fusion?

[dull river]

On terms of BST, yes there is. Of the two option one could be better then the other

[fluid karma]

The real answer is no

[proven sable]

I mean out of all possible fusions

[slim marsh]

DAMN
DAMN

GOD IS DEAD

[proven sable]

?

[slim marsh]

THE GOOD STATS WENT TO THE WRONG ONE

[proven sable]

Yikes

[dull river]

On that broad of a statment then probably not, but if so it's most like an Arceus fusion

[slim marsh]

We were this close to having a steel dragon with 616 base stat total and levitate

[indigo roost]

This is why i think they should all have the same stats

[dull river]

Yeah, I hate when that happens. The good looking fusion having the worse BST

[proven sable]

Feels bad man

[indigo roost]

take nidoqueen/primeape

[slim marsh]

Look at those stats though

[indigo roost]

look at it

[slim marsh]

I'm so butthurt

[proven sable]

Is there a list of all fairy types in if

[slim marsh]

I don't think I'm gonna recover from this

[dull river]

Also Slaking Snorlax, when the two lazy bois fuse we get something that is on the level of gods

[indigo roost]

Look at Charazard/Arbok the stats are so good but it looks so BADDDD

[slim marsh]

Slaking Snorlax at least gets the right stats for the custom

[dull river]

Right one in this case

[slim marsh]

I don't know what the best fusion is

But metagross/Hydreigon? Objectively the worst

Just for that

That wasted potential

[dull river]

But yeah, 630 BST and you can just pick up Immunity

[indigo roost]

Without Truant

so good

[dull river]

Also can't be Poisoned

so no Toxic stalling it

[proven sable]

Im mald bad stats went to the steel fairy with huge power

Very cringe

[fluid karma]

Steel is mostly physical attacks anyways

[slim marsh]

Hydreigross could have been so good

[proven sable]

Ye

Im tryna find a way to make smth close to magearna

In stats

[indigo roost]

look at this WHY cant Spyro the dragon be an absolute UNIT?

[slim marsh]

Right off the bat, only weak to fighting if you choose levitate, 116 defense to back that up, has agility to cover the speed, meteor mash with 125 attack, hell you could even run special attack if you wanted
But no

[slim marsh]

To be fair, both of those are worse than Charizard

[indigo roost]

Yeah But What is this game but fuseing your favourite pokemon together?

[slim marsh]

Oh and it gets worse
Hydreigon learns head smash

I need to stop looking into this

This is the most upsetting fusion

[proven sable]

If this had better bst it would be nearly unstoppable no?

[grave heron]

Blissey steelix

[slim marsh]

And I'm saying that being well aware of literally every Sharpedo fusion

[indigo roost]

Everything Gets BIte or sompthing

[proven sable]

Ig

[indigo roost]

pursuit

[proven sable]

How common are fairy moves in if

I havent actually played it yet

Just making fusions bc why not

[slim marsh]

Awful base stat but all that matters is the attack and speed

[grave heron]

Everyone gets disarming voice and thats it

Except for those who play rough

[slim marsh]

Genesect learns rock polish (gear shift too, which is better, but that's an event only move, so I don't know if it's possible in this game)

[indigo roost]

wait a minite is this good?

[slim marsh]

Ehhhh

[proven sable]

This sprite is amazing

[slim marsh]

It's base stat is higher than Haxorus but the major issues are that it lowers the 147 attack, and dumps a bunch of potential into a special attack which still isn't better

[indigo roost]

The Attak stat on magneorus though

i dont memerize BSTS and stuff

[slim marsh]

Is lower than normal Haxorus. Haxorus hits like a truck, it's genuinely menacing

[indigo roost]

ive already memorized too much of this

[slim marsh]

You do one dragon dance and you're above 500 attack, nearly 500 speed

[indigo roost]

the entire type chart there names there typings i need to get a life

[proven sable]

Isnt this pretty good?

Nvm im a sped

[slim marsh]

I'm not sure actually

It's lower than metagross over all, but technician is a good ability

[proven sable]

Its literally scizor with worse base atk

[slim marsh]

And metagross sets up with agility anyway

Plus meteor mash to boost attack

And it gets rid of some weaknesses because bug/steel is a good typing

I think it could easily be better than metagross

[proven sable]

Ig

It has 50 more bst than regular scizor

[slim marsh]

50 less than metagross but I think it's other factors make up the loss

[proven sable]

Maybe

This seems decent?

[indigo roost]

is this At least decent?

[proven sable]

Pikachu and marowak

?

[indigo roost]

yeah

no Cubone

[slim marsh]

Not great, the attack stats are weirdly mixed for such a slow pokemon

Ends up just being worse Hydreigon, which is a problem with the pseudos

[slim marsh]

Don't know about cubone specifically, but it's evolution gets the bad stats

[proven sable]

Spatk build or atk build?

[indigo roost]

it has Bold

[slim marsh]

And Raichu/Marowak gets no custom sprite

[indigo roost]

+atk -Def i think

[slim marsh]

Also still have no idea how items like thick club or light ball work so

Someone talked about it the other day, never saw the conclusion

[proven sable]

-atk +def

So ig it could work

Wont be very good tho

[indigo roost]

also im confused because my Armeleon looks diffrent then the Sprite in the file?

[fluid karma]

What fusion is that

Also what do you mean by file

[indigo roost]

Arbok/Charmeleom

[fluid karma]

This is apparently the sprite for it, but there is no sprite posted for it in this server and this sprite is a recolor with a belly pattern

[indigo roost]

look at this

from the files/in the game

[fluid karma]

Yeah, if there’s a custom sprite it of course wouldn’t use the generated sprite, that’s how it works

[indigo roost]

ok its just a bit confusing

anyone know custom polywratch/toed sprites?

[fluid karma]

What are you saying?

[indigo roost]

i want to use a cool looking frog

[fluid karma]

I made Venusaur/Politoed look like Wart from SMB2

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543958354377179176/782026911861833778/3.186.png

[indigo roost]

I would 100 use that but sadly i chose Charmander Sadge

its perfect

[fluid karma]

I have this also

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543958354377179176/545803589956796427/36.62.png

[indigo roost]

is there any way to replace this with a primarena like the gen 7 starter/

[fluid karma]

The sprite? Yes

[indigo roost]

that woulf be funnnt

funny

stupid big fingers

[fluid karma]

That’s one way to describe sea lion flippers

[indigo roost]

now its time to evolve em again

Now where does one get a totodile I really want this dude

[granite blaze]

Secret forest, to the left of Celadon

[shy walrus]

If only this has a custom sprite. Gale wings on this would be a monster.

[grave heron]

Priority flying type moves with no flying type stab

[shy walrus]

With that attack stat it’s like having pseudo stab.

[still sapphire]

Honestly just use a regular slaking

[shy walrus]

With Truant? No thanks. Defeats the purpose.

[dull river]

Just use Slaking/Snorlax

[rustic finch]

I'm using slaking/metagross with clear body

Normal/psychic is not a bad typing as well

[shy walrus]

The point was to up the attack on Gale Wings lol

[slim marsh]

I mean if the point is boosting the attack of a priority move there's no need to waste it with a Pokémon that's already fast surely

This would pull off the same effect

But if we're talking about stat boosts then wouldn't special be better? Special flying moves are better for gale wings because other than brave bird (which immediately removes said gale wings) what has physical got to offer?

Something like this for example

Like a speedy corviknight with a gun

[shy walrus]

Talonflame alone doesn’t get any special flying moves it seems. It would have to get them from whoever it’s fused with.

[slim marsh]

Hmmmmmm

[shy walrus]

I toyed with the special idea already. I’d have to dig deeper to find that special flying move.

[slim marsh]

Honestly flying moves aren't great in general for attacking

You've got brave bird, hurricane, air slash and acrobatics

Acrobatics could be decent I guess

[shy walrus]

Acrobatics on a 130+ attack would be pretty good.

I’m just playing around with interesting combos and seeing what I can do with them. Gale Wings is good, but it also needs to hit hard to be worth it.

[slim marsh]

If only Deoxys had its forms in this game

Deoxys attack might actually be pretty menacing with acrobatics and gale wings

Sadly it seems like any talonflame fusion with the flying type gets the worse attack

So unless you can get another bird, stab ain't gonna work

[shy walrus]

Yeah unfortunately

Deoxys attack would be an absolute beast lol

I mean…basically a bigger Talonflame? Lol

[slim marsh]

Yeah but the loss on these fusions seems too big to be worth it overall

[mint spear]

drill peck, acrobatics and ig dragon ascent
worth noting theres only like 2 special flying moves that arent signature that dont suck

[dull river]

True, there is mainly just Air Slash and Hurricane as the two major special Flying moves

Are those two the one's you were referring to Oak?

[mystic vector]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoIexp3XUAE6xC5?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 i saw this and I fell in love

[slim marsh]

I don't think this would be like amazing in a non competitive game

But multiscale Haxorus would be fucking scary in a competitive sense

Dragon dance Haxorus is already super strong

But what you've got here is either a better chance at getting two dragon dances in

Or better use out of a life orb, because you're less likely to be like 30 health after surviving a hit

[rustic finch]

D dance multiscale haxorus with weakness policy just go be evil

[slim marsh]

Terrifying

Especially since not much outspeeds dragon dance Haxorus

Basically "what if we have Haxorus better shell smash"

[rustic finch]

Yes

[slim marsh]

And it's not even like Haxorus won't survive an extra hit

Maybe not a super effective hit from another attacker but like

It could easily tank a neutral attack afterwards or something

Hell, you might even be able to use dragon claw instead of outrage to avoid being locked in

Here's one

Again, maybe not the most useful non-competitively

But Clefable with simple would be unstoppable as a stat booster

[slate sequoia]

That was my HM slave once

[fringe spruce]

My favorite fusion is Magnezone/Weezing with Levitate

Super Bulky, immune to ground, and pair it with Black Sludge to keep it going

[oak arch]

UGLY ... no galaxy

[fluid karma]

The galaxy pattern some Clefable fusions use makes no sense

They’re related to the moon, not outer space in general

[slim marsh]

To be fair, it does learn cosmic power

So it has control over some sort of galactic/space energy, which is usually what the sprites display

[oak arch]

moon is in space though 😄

[slim marsh]

Just saying

Magnezone/Clefable could be a death star

[fluid karma]

I just got an idea

[rare tundra]

is there a easy way to find out what future fusions look like? when i search more then 1 pokemon name in discord it turns up empty

[grave heron]

https://aegide.github.io/

[rare tundra]

thx man

[slim marsh]

Okay so the thing in sprite works got me thinking about Machamp/Hydreigon

I really don't know how good it would be but there are some things to consider

Hydreigon's physical moveset includes dragon rush, head smash and stone edge, all moves let down by lower accuracy, which could be made better with no guard

And also Hydreigon gets dragon dance, which it doesn't often use because special attack is objectively the better use for it

Oh and iron tail

Which would cover the 4x fairy weakness

Also sidenote

But they really spent all that time making German number puns for Hydreigon

Only for Germany to name it Trikephalo

[fluid karma]

There's a guy in #spriting-discussion making a sprite for it

[slim marsh]

Yeah that's what got me thinking about it

[sand depot]

I hate it so much thank you for this idea

[slim marsh]

Honestly would be even better if we had Swoobat in this game because those defenses aren't great and that wouldn't have mattered with more speed to pull off 2x cosmic power before the first attack

But Bibarel is the only thing with simple in IF as far as I'm aware

[sand depot]

Bibarel has that extra troll factor for added salt, tho. Which makes it superior for it's purpose.

[slim marsh]

That's true

[slim marsh]

It gets better I just realised

What monster has plagued everyone at some point? Whitney's Miltank

Bibarel offers up swords dance

If you dropped minimise you could max out defense with cosmic power, use moonlight to stay alive, boost attack with swords dance

Then use rollout

[sand depot]

Gross. 🤣

[granite blaze]

What about body slam, 100 accuracy with a chance to paralyse

[slim marsh]

Okay actually

Let's think about this for a moment

Contrary Close Combat

That's not nothing with those defense stats

Might be the type of thing you run rest + chesto berry on though

Alternatively you could run Shuckle + Infernape with contrary combat and overheat

[true jasper]

it uses its hands like whips..

funny thing to think about

[slim marsh]

Oh shit and the Infernape one gets slack off too

Save the item spot

But its attack stats are worse, even with overheat boosting your special

So frankly you could run either or

Currently I'm looking for one with superpower and close combat

Aw damn

Golurk doesn't get close combat

Man, Game Freak really fumbled one of my favourite Pokémon

I was thinking contrary Close combat + hammer arm would be scary

[fluid karma]

What fusion are you using

[slim marsh]

None I'm just working out Shuckle fusions at the moment because I'm bored

[indigo roost]

is this good i just got this on a randomizer?

[fringe spruce]

That's pretty damn good

[slim marsh]

I mean in a randomiser yeah 100%

Maybe worse than normal Salamence idk I can't tell from the base stat alone but like

You can't be too picky

Especially with moxie

[indigo roost]

i know the attak is bad but it got moxie so it can get really beefy

[slim marsh]

Well no the attack is great

Just worse than Salamence I think

[fluid karma]

How did it get moxie

[slim marsh]

105 attack isn't bad, just dragged down a little

[fringe spruce]

Yeah But now it has Leech Life and Poison coverage