#fusions
mint spear
acoustic beacon
How did you get to page 2/2?!
mint spear
x
feral wyvern
It's good at tecking.
spring marten
Yes
tawdry shard
Okay, so... wanting to fuse Riolu and Honedge. Which should I choose first in the fusion sequence?
vivid bay
Riolu
tawdry shard
Gotcha.
acoustic beacon
fusion order: body then head
naming order: head then body
pseudo notch
^ or you can go to the calculator site or #sprite-gallery and search the pokemon fusion you wanted, then use dna splicer in game and see if its what you wanted
You can always reverse their fusion
acoustic beacon
Hey so when I use DNA Reverser, is it always a set Ability I get or is it random? I know you have a choice of two, but my Klinkarp reverse always gets Plus
pseudo notch
Ur tryna get swift swim?
acoustic beacon
yes
pseudo notch
Have u tried ability capsule
acoustic beacon
I don't have one yet
acoustic beacon
I just beat Brock and you can get reversers as soon as you beat him
pseudo notch
You can unfused them and fused again, but it will cost lot of levels
acoustic beacon
exactly
pseudo notch
You rebattle trainer, so its okay
You can unfused and fuse them again
Just dont spam A just like me
acoustic beacon
that's not the point
I already have to grind to get to Mt. Moon, so grinding just so I can get to the route before Mt. Moon is too much
pseudo notch
Ur playing normal or randomize
acoustic beacon
randomized
acoustic beacon
yes
pseudo notch
Or klinklang/magikarp
acoustic beacon
Klink
pseudo notch
Which is body?
acoustic beacon
Magikarp
acoustic beacon
but I thought Reversers would ask which Ability you wanted
yes the mechanical fish
pseudo notch
No it doesnt
The only thing they ask is by using ability capsule nor fusing
You got it as starter?
pseudo notch
No
acoustic beacon
or like post game
acoustic beacon
so Cinnebar?
pseudo notch
Above Cerulean city
acoustic beacon
I mean to buy not a random one you find
pseudo notch
Yes, you can buy ability capsule once you can surf
This should be discussed on general, not here supposely
acoustic beacon
it's about fusions though
pseudo notch
But ur asking question rn
This channel desc said fusion combination, such as how cool they are
tepid ridge
oh god, please never show us the cloyster/gardevoir dex entry
acoustic beacon
oh no
acoustic beacon
why is that one the alt?
rustic finch
Probably cause it's younger
acoustic beacon
more like abugly
simple osprey
Rude
vivid bay
smh
fluid karma
Yeah, it’s Katten’s fault
mint shard
Katten Faulten
vivid bay
what did i do 
flat grail
look at thissssss
like i could see this being the playable character of a cool indie platformer
fluid karma
Hollow Knight
It’s even a bug
flat grail
this would be the first boss
cobalt granite
huh
high willow
he's so ugly 😂
flat grail
8th phase
cobalt granite
osha, we have a kaiju
flat grail
i found miku
cobalt granite
yeah...also niche the little dunes in the upper body
fluid karma
Now look up Dugtrio/Machoke and look at the alt versions for it
high willow
spatial steelix is awesome
cobalt granite
well....we have balls
vivid bay
@tepid ridge 
high willow
it is the fusion of steelix and jirachi no ?
hallow kindle
Clefable
flat grail
clefable
simple osprey
steep karma
i stole your palette for my palkia/reuniclus
steep karma
no, my ban pass has already expired
simple osprey
Hey scrapi
steep karma
cant do that anymore
flat grail
lmao
hallow kindle
this ^
high willow
it"s me triomario lmaooo
simple osprey
Nice fun fact skeln
flat grail
yes
simple osprey
Not the best psyduck sprite made
high willow
yep
hallow kindle
Looks like it saw something terrible
cobalt granite
lol
steep karma
yes
high willow
Looks like it saw something terrible
now I can't look at it without thinking it's traumatized
flat grail
high willow
wow fascinating
flat grail
lil dude
high willow
the guy that made this is just a king lmaooooo
high willow
fusion of what and what ?
steep karma
corsola
high willow
ty
flat grail
chadola
flat grail
thats just so cute
high willow
not the best
flat grail
yeah but i like it
high willow
me to
flat grail
high willow
damn
flat grail
i would be scared af
cobalt granite
hee
flat grail
i don't ever wanna fight that thing
high willow
this one versus salamnece-corsola would be like david vs goliath lmaooo
cobalt granite
yeah...
high willow
wow
flat grail
high willow
genius too
flat grail
dude the ones that make corsola's corals more colorful are amazing
high willow
there is people that can do this and that's make me happy
high willow
yeah
high willow
lol like it so much
flat grail
tiny
high willow
hooooooooooo
flat grail
i wanna see porygon
cobalt granite
yeah
hidden bison
i wanna see porygon
fused with who?
flat grail
i just wanted to see porygon head
they made some really cool lowpoly fusions
lol
high willow
the first is mechanical Dumbo lol
flat grail
i love these
steep karma
check its evo
high willow
the last is just horrible lmao
flat grail
what the hell
high willow
check its evo
yeah
flat grail
our lord and saviour, helix
this one is just hilarious
i imagine a lot of the slacking fusions are hilarious
wait doesn't this game make slacking broken?
cobalt granite
yeah do
flat grail
because he has the ability that makes him not do anything every other round
but with this game you can just fuse it with a different pokemon and give a different ability
so you get the great stats for free
high willow
you to choose
fluid karma
One of my Natus
flat grail
what the fuck am i looking at
high willow
One of my Natus
nice 🙂
high willow
me not
cobalt granite
pretty cyberpunk
flat grail
the smeargle sprites belong in a museum
fluid karma
Nothing wrong here, just a shiny Gyarados
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543958354377179176/671507442164826132/129.130.png
flat grail
lmao
cobalt granite
an Angry Shiny Gyrados
flat grail
the smeargle sprites are fucking amazing
cobalt granite
seem like under rage
high willow
Nothing wrong here, just a shiny Gyarados
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...
looks like he just got hit in the balls lmaooo
flat grail
yeah i'm telling you these smeargle sprites belong in a museum
fluid karma
cobalt granite
sorry?
fluid karma
Bob Ross
high willow
heurk
cobalt granite
so...weirdd
flat grail
the miltank sprites are on the edge of being nsfw
flat grail
cobalt granite
oh this is a cool one
flat grail
cobalt granite
ermm
flat grail
THOR
cobalt granite
heh
high willow
haha
cobalt granite
hammer bros Time?
flat grail
clever
hidden bison
flat grail
entei arcanine just looks like a more majestic entei
hidden bison
it's cerberus!
high willow
I will go to bed guys bye and good night
flat grail
same
high willow
flat grail
gn
hidden bison
gn
cobalt granite
gn
flat grail
dude you know what the celebi tyrannitar fusion should be?
the giant fuckin walking forest monster from the 4th movie
where celebi was at the center
that would be a really good reference
fluid karma
Looks more like Darkrai to me
flat grail
yeah it does
well, the thing you'd have to fuse it with to get that result is up for debate
but it would be sick to see that reference in there
dude i can't stop browsing these
fluid karma
You could request a sprite if you want in #sprite-requests
fluid karma
lethal cypress
Warlock patron
cobalt granite
Angel
cobalt granite
huh..
acoustic beacon
you know what's weird? that all Pokémon between Bulbasaur and Bayleef have Voltorb body fusions... is there a team Voltorb body?
tepid ridge
Its just an easy one to make
I think people spammed voltorb bodies in the early days
fluid karma
Aquatic was the one making them
tepid ridge
🌳
fluid karma
There are some of those you can obtain after beating the postgame, but it’s just the legendary trios and the fully evolved starter trios as fusions
cobalt granite
ha ok
fluid karma
And this is Regigigas/Dodrio
cobalt granite
ok....
spring marten
Would a light ball affect a fusion with pikachu?
west leaf
no
west leaf
Would a light ball affect a fusion with pikachu?
I wish, but eviolite is the only item like that works on fusions.
spring marten
Oh okay
west leaf
really I dont think that it would be overpowered at all if they did work on fusions
even with pure power and thick club it still wouldn't really be better than a good blissey/chansey fusion.
some of the chansey and blissey fusions are crazy powerful
like excalibur/blissey, doublade/blissey, mewtwo/blissey, and volcarona/blissey
out of all of them I think doublade/blissey and volcarona/blissey might be the most powerful
doublade because of 100 percent accuracy sing with probably the most insane bulk in the game and decent attack, and volcarona because of quiverdance
jirachi/blissey is also really good because of cosmic power
spring marten
Slaking / blissey is good too
I think
Decent special attack, physical defense and speed
The rest is... wow
B i g
west leaf
Slaking / blissey is good too
Slaking/blissey is pretty good, but it does not have the greatest movepool. Doublade/blissey with eviolite after one swords dance surpasses it in every way imaginable except speed and it has a stabed priority move that helps deal with that problem.
slaking just does not have any real good boosting moves
well nvm I just looked it up and he does have bulk up
so he is a good bit better than I thought
Yeah I would say he is one of the best as well because of bulk up and power up punch
spring marten
:o nice
wet shard
Would a light ball affect a fusion with pikachu?
It should affect a fusion with Pikachu as the body.
west leaf
It should affect a fusion with Pikachu as the body.
are you sure about that?
wet shard
According to the wiki, the items that are mon specific affect them if they are the body of the fusion.
west leaf
yeah but on the fusion faq here on discord it says that no longer works as of the current patch
the wiki has not been updated in alot of areas
wet shard
Well, that part of the faq has said that for a while. Who knows whether it does or not. I guess someone could test it.
west leaf
I think it also says that aegislash's stance change still works for fusions but that is not the case anymore
now you just get the message and that the stance is changed and the stats stay the same
west leaf
Well, that part of the faq has said that for a while. Who knows whether it does ...
the only problem with that is that is not exactly easy to find a thick club or light ball unless you are farming for one.
even then it will probably take a few hours
probably find it on the 30th cubone or pikachu
wet shard
I think the lightball is easy since you can get it from the quest for catching voltorbs, I think like your 4th or 5th.
west leaf
oh yeah I think you might be right about that
native shadow
west leaf
one of my favorite looking fusions is gyarados/mamoswine
it is a pretty powerful dragon dancer, too.
tawdry shard
... hmm... what's the channel fusion THIS time?
Looks kinda like Deoxys, but I can't place the other part...
fluid karma
Parasect, just look in #contest-gallery, it always says what the fusion is
keen vine
is it possible to get double same typed pokemon? i mean something like magikarp + goldeen
pseudo notch
Why would u want smth like water/water lol
keen vine
i dont want but my rival got remoraid tentacool as starter
and i was wondering about my dmg multipler
feral wyvern
It is so noble it gained nightvision.
mint spear
that happened to me once
feral wyvern
Do tell.
frigid nimbus
Anyone know a good fusion with aron?
wet shard
Anyone know a good fusion with aron?
If you are only interested in appearance, you can search #sprite-gallery for Aron and see what fusions exist. If you are more interested in stats, you can check out Aegide's fusion calculator and test different fusions with Aron and its line. I believe that calculator is in #playthrough-talk pins.
frigid nimbus
If you are only interested in appearance, you can search <#543958354377179176> f...
Thank you so much
west leaf
Anyone know a good fusion with aron?
aggron and volcarona make a really good looking fusion with good stats and a decent typing
frigid nimbus
aggron and volcarona make a really good looking fusion with good stats and a dec...
Ooooo that's an interesting one
west leaf
Here are the stats and looks.
Because of Aggron's stats you almost always have to go with the rock typing
and bug rock is probably the best rock duel type
unless you can get poison rock with levitate
I never realized how good of typing a ghost steel with levitate is on here.
because it uses the old school steel type that is resistant to ghost and dark it only has one 2x weakness with fire, 4 types it takes regular damage from, an amazing 8 .5x resistances, 1 .25 resistance, and 4 immunities
in other words it resists almost 3/4ths of all types in the game with only one weakness
poison steel with levitate is really good as well
it has the same number of resistances overall but has way less immunites
acoustic beacon
Duskull + Slakoth is OP, but I'd still say evolving it to Dusclops + Slaking is better since you can still use Eviolite and you're more bulky
Dusclops loses Levitate BTW
west leaf
a Normal/Ghost type with levitate has 4 immunities
Yes normal ghost is an amazing type but it only has 2 resistances and they are only .5 resistances. My point about ghost steel with levitate is that 3/4ths of the pokemon in game will be either unable to damage it at all or only able to damage it with .5 or .25 damage. The only weakness is fire and only water, electric, ghost, and dark damage it normally. Everything else is resisted or negated completely.
And due to gengar's stat spread you can essentially have a speedy tank which is tankier than shuckle that hits really hard as well.
especially since recover is a tm in this game
gengar/lucario, metagross/gengar, gengar/bastiodon, and gengar/aegislash are all pretty good
and due to it being steel type it is immune to toxic and levitate and the typing makes it almost immune to all entry hazzards
wispy otter
nice wig
frigid nimbus
Any good combo for Ho-Oh that isn't a legendary?
fluid karma
Any good combo for Ho-Oh that isn't a legendary?
Ho-Oh is a legendary, so I think the ship has sailed on that part already 
Here's a Muk/Ho-Oh sprite I made that I really like
I made the Alolan version first actually
west leaf
Any good combo for Ho-Oh that isn't a legendary?
hooh/sceptile and hooh/blazekien both are good pokemon and have some good sprites.
hooh/gyarados is also decent looking and pretty good
rapadash/hooh looks epic and is fairly good as well
frigid nimbus
Okay thank you!
fluid karma
Ho-Oh/Machoke gives you Magician's Red
frigid nimbus
That is fabulous
frigid nimbus
true
west leaf
you would probably want to replace the sprite though
becuase it is auto gen
and looks terrible
frigid nimbus
lol
west leaf
I think it is funny how unknown/stunfisk is a doormat
west leaf
yeah
frigid nimbus
That strong?
patent moss
yes
patent moss
kyogre/tangrowth is a fusion so good that it is banned in showdown
that thing is almost unkillable
patent moss
Kyogre/Zapdos is also very good
and that thing get water spout + perfect accuracy thunder
west leaf
its the typing, dps, tankyness, healing, and movepool
frigid nimbus
O.o
west leaf
the main thing that makes it better than the blissey versions is how hard it hits
you pretty much have to toxic it to kill it
frigid nimbus
Jesus
west leaf
or use one of the rare weaknesses it has on a pokemon
that is a sweeper
its only weak to flying, bug, and poison
none of those are common attacking type moves
patent moss
and they almost have team mates ready to tank those moves
patent moss
also
west leaf
its difficult to deal with
frigid nimbus
Alright then
patent moss
if you pick too op mons, you will struggle less and have less fun
west leaf
true
My team is pretty good right now and even on hard modern mode I completely decimated the league and most bosses.
and that is with me refusing to use any items in battle
for most of the league I soloed their entire team with one pokemon
blue took 2
and I was about even leveled with them
blissey fusions are op
well alot of them are
loud palm
am i right that the first pokemon i chose to fuse is the body part ?
hidden bison
POV: You got the whole squad laughing
fluid karma
am i right that the first pokemon i chose to fuse is the body part ?
Yes, it’s the opposite of how everything else refers to fusions
Also, read #fusion-faq
loud palm
Alright, Thanks alot @fluid karma
west leaf
POV: You got the whole squad laughing
yeah some of the non custom sprites look really bad
mint spear
slender gorge
Damn
wet shard
mobile.
proud crane
proud crane
wet shard
I'm so tempted to try your Gallade/Krookodile request... But I don't think I'm ready for that fusion yet.
slender gorge
What is this fusion lmao
proud crane
COME ON
FIYAAAH
MISSHAHN COMPLETE
mint spear
bro
wet shard
What is this fusion lmao
Obviously a Vulyu. Duh.
mint spear
star fox
wet shard
Now you need a Politoed/Staryu named Slippy.
mint spear
~~I'm so tempted to try your Gallade/Krookodile request... But I don't think I'm...
nw! i might try it if nobody else does
but if you wanna give it a shot lmk, i'd be happy to thank with a steam key
slender gorge
My team is whatever the fuck names i thought of so dont ask me XD
mint spear
melty
wet shard
nw! i might try it if nobody else does
but if you wanna give it a shot lmk, i'd ...
I don't know what a steam key is, but perhaps I will take a stab at it. Let me see what I can do.
slender gorge
Its a magcargo i dunno xD
mint spear
oh just a like
code for a steam game
i collect a lot of them and like giving them out
wet shard
My team is whatever the fuck names i thought of so dont ask me XD
I love that Bambi's mom is a dude.
slender gorge
I feel this nickname is a bit morbid
wet shard
And okay. Cool.
mint spear
HEHEH
slender gorge
I love that Bambi's mom is a dude.
Well i could say his dad if you wanna be real xD as both are dead
wet shard
Eh, nobody ever thinks about bambi's dad.
slender gorge
No his mother had the sadder death scene xD
mint spear
The Old Stag did eventually die, passing on his title of Great Prince of the Forest to Bambi as he wandered off to die alone. His abdication of the title occurred on the same day his twin grandchildren and the children of his beloved Bambi, Geno and Gurri, were born.
slender gorge
yeap
but the only parent anyone thinks of is mother cause bang
star fox is also female xD oh boy got a bunch of curse people and for once i dont mean the pregen sprites
mint spear
@haughty jay epic mammuth moment
slender gorge
The only custom sprite pokemon i have
wet shard
Seems a little odd to embrace white pokemon.
oak ruin
Does the age change anything in gameplay?
rustic finch
no
oak ruin
ok thanks
slender gorge
Neat
oak ruin
How can I use the alternate character sprites?
wet shard
How can I use the alternate character sprites?
Are you talking trainer sprites or are you talking pokemon sprites? Pokemon Sprites you paste them in the CustomBattlers folder. I can go into details on trainer sprites if you need.
oak ruin
alternate Trainers sprites
wet shard
Most of them you will paste in the Characters folder, with any transition ones (think ones that are wide and look like a banner or wideshot) going in the Transition folder.
If I may ask, what trainer sprites are you looking at using?
oak ruin
This one Sei Shōnagon
wet shard
Okay. Cool. You could use Mewtwo, but that sounds fine too. Regardless of what you choose, I hope you enjoy the game!
oak ruin
I've changed them but it wont work
wet shard
What are the character numbers for the sprites? I just need one of them.
I also need to know if you selected Male or Female for your playthrough.
oak ruin
001 female I think this is correct
wet shard
Should be correct. The sprite should be named trchar001 for your walking around sprite if you selected female. Weird it hasn't shown for you.
Did the set include a girl_run file?
oak ruin
Yes
wet shard
I'm assuming you've restarted your game since adding the files. Hmmm... Weird. You may want to bring this up in #tech-support since this is beyond what I know how to fix.
oak ruin
Witch starter is the best one to use in a randomizer
wet shard
First, this conversation is probably better had in #playthrough-talk (I should have mentioned the previous one should have been in #tech-support or #general before, but didn't), and second, I don't know that it matters when you randomize Pokemon. Just pick your favorite!
oak ruin
ok so mudkip then (I dont randomize starters nor stats)
fluid karma
Swampert the best
oak ruin
I got a quirky Mudkip
pure basalt
happy
pure basalt
subtle cipher
I might be color blind but I'm pretty sure this thing isn't pink 😂
hasty spear
and it has a black tail and eyes
hasty spear
r/overlyanilisedetails
cobalt granite
yeah
heady trellis
r/overlyanilisedetails
cobalt granite
well..reddit is always a place where find some community that are like unknown to you
hasty spear
<:pain:784918726986301451>
why is there an emoji for everything my god
patent moss
that's how mafia works
pure basalt
rapid wind
monke
acoustic plover
would this be where I ask some help with figuring out my team ahead of time?
I'm just trying to get a good idea of some fusions I wanna go for
slender gorge
yeah or #playthrough-talk
acoustic plover
cool
first of all
is there any basis on which Charizard + Gardevoir doesn't suck ass
and honestly I'm going to use it regardless
holy fuck that design is incredible
acoustic plover
it's stats suck a lot lmao
fire/fairy is decent but not great, stats are universally just worse than gardevoir on its own, and blaze/synchronize are really bad abilities
but
LOOK AT THAT SHIT
IT'S SO FUCKING COOL
slender gorge
I would encourage using mons you wanna use rather the good stat ones, in my experience you will have a better time playing the game
slender gorge
I mean thats fair
acoustic plover
like, having mons that are just super weak can be really unfun
slender gorge
But like someone beat this game on hard with magikarp head fusions xD
acoustic plover
cause you don't get to actually use them
anyway that's gonna be my start tbqh that's set in stone
I saw the design and fell in love with it immediately
slender gorge
I beat the game with raichu body fusions xD so like go crazy
acoustic plover
the other question
any great sprites for crobat? I'm paging through randomizing
but I'm having trouble finding anything awesome
Octillery was pretty fire
acoustic plover
with the just myriad wings
it seems like it'd lend itself to some incredible designs
but I haven't found many
slender gorge
Flygon and crobat
acoustic plover
is there any list I can find these or something?
slender gorge
search the gallery in discord
acoustic plover
gotcha
slender gorge
yeah lmao
acoustic plover
yeah I didn't know that channel existed
too bad this isn't the side of azu that gets huge power
still if I'm ignoring stats, that's gotta be on the team
slender gorge
If you cant get a hidden ability one yeah you would
acoustic plover
ohh you can pass on hidden ability
cool
didn't know that
that does make gardevoirizard better
...maybe not tbh
solar power isn't good outside of a sun team
and telepathy is doubles only
slender gorge
Maybe you could build a weather based team?
But if you dont wont matter much anyway xD
slender gorge
Lol yeah they can be
acoustic plover
wait
oh my god no
pawniard/torterra is actually perfect
but bisharp/torterra is just like the standard generated mess
noooo
THAT'S GORGEOUS
WHY DO I HAVE TO LOSE THAT
acoustic plover
excuse me I need to go find a cherry blossom to dry my tears on
how do I put in a request for someone to make bisharp almost exactly the same but just expanding on that idea
lmao
slender gorge
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh #sprite-requests
acoustic plover
oh my god the original spriter left the server 😔
slender gorge
F
acoustic plover
still hoping someone can just expand on that
slender gorge
yeah
acoustic plover
am I stupid, or shouldn't one of these be flying
given dragonite is dragon/flying
oh! another question I had
how does stance change work with aegislash fusions
same question with venusaur - it seems like it only ever gives grass, no poison
fluid karma
Yes, some Pokémon only give 1 type
For another example, all normal flying types only give flying
fluid karma
how does stance change work with aegislash fusions
It doesn’t work right, there’s a pinned comment explaining it that I think is still accurate
acoustic plover
oh damn
that's so sad, there's so many good aegislash concepts
anything that instantly comes to mind for you as really good grass type combos?
slender gorge
anything that instantly comes to mind for you as really good grass type combos?
Water/Grass is a decent type set up, lots of ways you could get said typing though lol
acoustic plover
I meant more for pokemon lol
it's okay I found Tangrowth Milotic after that
and that's cleeean as hell
trying to find a steel type now my team gets fucked by poison
radiant ridge
this looks awesome
heady trellis
?
rapid wind
🦣 🖌️
acoustic beacon
why does Marowak/Lucario barely even look like Marowak?
what's with the furry chest?
simple osprey
Creative liberty
signal jasper
anything that instantly comes to mind for you as really good grass type combos?
Try Tyranitar/Leafeon or Arcanine/Leafeon
Or any eeveevolution not called Flareon with Leafeon (?)
acoustic plover
I think I settled on my team but thank you
Rn I'm thinking
Charizard/Gardevoir (so fucking gorgeous as a design)
Azumarill/Crobat (unbelievably cute)
Tangrowth/Milotic (really creative and cool design, i just love it)
Marowak/Torterra (admittedly I prefer Pawniard/Torterra, but until there's a Bisharp Torterra so that it doesn't look worse by evolving, I guess I'll stick with this)
Empoleon/Scizor (really took me by surprise being very clean and good-looking as a design)
Sylveon/Umbreon (goth trans girl cat goth trans girl cat goth trans girl cat goth trans girl cat)
signal jasper
Are you doing searching good stats or good looking fusion?
acoustic plover
I decided fuck stats
all of those combos are pretty sucky except Empoleon/Scizor
signal jasper
acoustic plover
if I wanted to go for OP Stats I would be running shit like Scizor/Weavile for the technician dual stab priority with 123 base attack
signal jasper
Is a bit sad that usually the best fusion had the worst stats
acoustic plover
Blissey/Steelix the unkillable wall
whatever stuff
idc about that
see, the thing was
I saw Charizard/Gardevoir design
immediately fell in love
went "oh my god there is nothing redeemable about its stats, typing, abilities, or moveset"
and immediately had to decide to not care
because if any of my pokemon were optimal
but my starter sucked ass
I wouldn't be able to use it really
but yeah speaking about Pawniard/Torterra the design is so good it makes me sad there's no continuation of it
just slightly tweak it to show advancement and it'd be so perfect
signal jasper
I guess yo can ask for a Sprite Resquest 
signal jasper
Good Luck
acoustic plover
thank you!
unfortunately the original spriter is no longer on the server
from the pawniard sprite
signal jasper
Any Tip to avoid this?
simple osprey
@vivid bay you're a cool user
Can you check in the custombattlers folder if this one is in there, and what size it is
signal jasper
Oh. I found it: 288x288
simple osprey
huh
I can tell you that the one in the game there ain't 288x288, or resized correctly at all lol
Its blurry as well
nova sparrow
obv it used mazimise
slender gorge
xD
patent moss
acoustic plover
wait would I be able to just duplicate the Pawniard/Torterra sprite and put it in for Bisharp/Torterra too, in my game?
slender gorge
you could yes
warped nymph
I am unreasonably in love with Wardude https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/rIdRxQjsEDLCYajM0relkd-3HyIAf17iTTKUO9aVmXY/https/aegide.github.io/CustomBattlers/8.74.png
simple osprey
thanks
warped nymph
Oh is it one of yours??
simple osprey
yes
warped nymph
I love them so much
simple osprey
hope you enjoy the final stage as well
warped nymph
simple osprey
👀
warped nymph
I did some basic resprite work back a decade ago where I switched types around but nothing as cool as this
craggy arrow
thought I found a shiny gyarados at first lmao
spring marten
Big f
fluid karma
thought I found a shiny gyarados at first lmao
Guess what the shiny Gyarados in the lake of rage is replaced with
craggy arrow
a magidos? lol what a tease
fluid karma
And it’s my sprite too
cobalt granite
huh...lucky
craggy arrow
excellent work with it then XD
dull dune
And it’s my sprite too
this alone already makes me hate you and ive been here for not even 30min
jokes aside why
rustic finch
Why what?
dull dune
when i came across that the first time it was painful
this has brought that memory back, and its more painful
i mean then again u werent the one that put it in the game as a replacement to shiny gyara
dull dune
ik but still, its painful
fluid karma
I don’t see how
craggy arrow
do all shedinja fusions still have 1 hp or is it based on the fusion's base stats like normal?
fluid karma
They have 1 HP if you choose wonder guard as the ability
craggy arrow
Drat, I was hoping to fuse with smeargle, give it curse, some status boosting moves, and baton pass as the ultimate setup mon
So I take it curse would just make the fusion knock itself out?
craggy arrow
I'll have to try it once I figure out where to find a nincada
fluid karma
Check the encounters list pinned in playthrough talk
plain fern
Idk who did the spritework on this, but I love it to death
Also I am ready for this monster tank to do it's thing as it evolves :p
fluid karma
Idk who did the spritework on this, but I love it to death
That's an auto generated sprite
plain fern
Huh. It just melded so cleanly it was hard to tell. Oh well
plain fern
Okay I decided to mess around in the fusion generator just for fun and found this gem
fluid karma
You should see how bad generated Rotom body fusions are
plain fern
The style is oozing. Oh god I don't know if I want to see rotom fusions. Are they worse than lickitung fusions? Those are all cursed
acoustic plover
if I fuse 2 Eevees together, then level them up at high friendship during night, do I get umbreonx2 fusion or do I get an umbreon/eevee fusion?
cause I ultimately want Umbreon/Sylveon
just trying to figure out if I can immediately fuse eevees or I have to grind friendship first
fluid karma
I think they'll both become Umbreon
steep karma
think its safer to just evolve each one separately
acoustic plover
gotcha
fluid karma
Also, they don't evolve with friendship
fluid karma
fluid karma
The link to a list of all changed evolutions is pinned in #playthrough-talk
fluid karma
Like trade evolutions
acoustic plover
yeah I knew it'd happened for trade evos
just didn't know about friend evos
how did I just combine a female ralts with a female charmander
and it became male
fluid karma
Pretty sure gender is randomized again when fusing
acoustic plover
I see
rip $1000 fixing that
didn't know I had to pay attention and savescum to reset for that too
when the gender gets re-randomized, is the weighting going to be 7/8 - 1/8 for a fusion including a starter?
or are all fusions 50/50 and I'm just super unlucky
fluid karma
I think it's the body's gender rate, I don't know much about that stuff because I never cared about it
acoustic plover
ralts should be 50/50 though...
fluid karma
It could be the head's gender rate, I don't remember which
acoustic plover
I'm very confused - I put in f + f, I get m. I unfuse, and every time so far it's been f (ralts) + m (charmander), and then when I refuse m. it's like it's not random at all
like you'd expect to get either f on the fusion or m on the ralts a few times
but none yet
I think it might not be random
fluid karma
You know, I'm pretty sure it's just completely bugged, since people have fused Pokemon with genders and gotten genderless fusions
acoustic plover
ughh
yeah but it seems to be bugged in a consistent way, like it's impossible to get f chalts
fluid karma
There is a gender stone that changes their gender though
fluid karma
No, but there's a person in Cinnabar who can change the nature to another random nature, so save before using her services since they cost money
fluid karma
It's where the 7th gym leader is
acoustic plover
There is a gender stone that changes their gender though
when is that in the game?
fluid karma
I don't know
wet shard
So, as far as genders go, from what I can tell it is re-rolled each time. Ralts I'm pretty sure isn't 50/50, but if your fusion is mostly coming up male, the half that is Charmander is contributing gender ratio.
As for the bugged genderless fusions, they seem to mostly be the latest additions to the game, like Fletchling.
You can re-roll until you get the gender you want by fusing and unfusing. That's how I got a female Eevee from a Male Eevee.
acoustic plover
ralts is 50/50 for sure - I knew that ahead of time, and it's on the wiki. charm is 87.5/12.5, of course. I started with f/f for them, fused, and got m. Then, 10 times in a row, I unfused and re-fused, savescumming each time. Each time, I ended up with a m charmander, f ralts, and when re-fusing an m chalts again
that's what weirds me out
wet shard
I know a Gender Stone is possible to obtain north of Goldenrod, but you can't get there until just before the 8th gym.
fluid karma
No, he just said it's before the 8th gym
fluid karma
That's called late game
wet shard
And yeah, with Charmander, it is extremely likely to come out male and make the fusion male. But if you keep trying, it will happen.
acoustic plover
right, but why did ralts go female with the unfusion 10 times in a row
wet shard
And there is tons of post game, so it's kinda mid game if you include that.
acoustic plover
we're taking under .1% chance for ralts to go female from the 50/50 10 times in a row
fluid karma
Pretty sure the body of the fusion is the same Pokemon as the original, but the head is a new Pokemon
acoustic plover
ohhh okay
so ralts was locked in with what she originally was
which was female
but the charmander got rerolled
and I just got mildly unlucky
fluid karma
I believe so
acoustic plover
that's plausible
wet shard
Suffice it to say, fusion mechanics are complex.
acoustic plover
so there's no reason to get a f charmander at the start
if I'm going to be fusing with a ralts on route 2
fluid karma
Suffice it to say, fusion mechanics are complex.
More like jank
acoustic plover
it'll just get rerolled anyway
mint spear
You know, I'm pretty sure it's just completely bugged, since people have fused P...
its based off the ratio of the head, but the pid is randomized iirc
acoustic plover
pid?
mint spear
just random id that determines stuff like gender and shinyness
acoustic plover
ohh okay
and shininess isn't in this game
gotcha
so what I should do is speedrun to a ralts
with a good nature since that gets passed on
and then save and save scum there to get a ralts/charmander that's female - a 1/8 chance
fun
wet shard
Or, just accept having it male until late game.
or ask someone to mod a mart to sell gender stones, if anybody knows how to do that
fluid karma
It would be easier to just give yourself 900 gender stones or something
Kazi hacks the game, she could maybe help
acoustic plover
hm
I'll think about it, thanks y'all
also does anyone know a way to not have it pause when I tab out?
fluid karma
There's no way
wet shard
It's also probably easier to just reprogram a different item to have the same function, such as reprogramming the antidote to be the mist stone.
acoustic plover
we sure gender is being rerolled?
I've reloaded the save 8 times now
and that's not out of the realm of possibility but that's a bit unlucky
for losing the 1/8
wet shard
It definitely gets re-rolled. However, it may be holding on to certain values before each fusion. So soft resetting is not having the effect you want. You may have to fuse and unfuse a few times before you do a reset in order to get the re-roll to show.
acoustic plover
this is literally the start of the game, I don't exactly have the spare money
hacking trans stones in it is
wet shard
Or, you can just wait til you have more money later. Just saying.
acoustic plover
I could, but the sorta person I am is I like to have my stuff as it should be as early as I can
and then just continue it forward
feels better than getting it later
wet shard
Fair then.
fluid karma
Or just not care about gender since it doesn't affect any Pokemon besides Kirlia
acoustic plover
yeah I mean I get it
gender is a scam
in people too
but I'm trans and rather attached to mine given what I've had to go through because of it, and I name all of my pokemon after goddesses
so I just like it to be correct
I understand it's stupid, but I care anyway
mint spear
we sure gender is being rerolled?
hold on, i explained it wrong but
i just woke up and i'll answer in an hour or two
oh that was hours ago so you're probs asleep
ping me when you're on i fucked up my explanation of pid lol
acoustic plover
@mint spear I’m curious
mint spear
<@!185889188560896000> I’m curious
okay so how have you been fusing it before
acoustic plover
Uhh click whatever the item is called
Then ralts then charisard
Charmander I mean
Is there some other way to do it?
mint spear
ye
i messed up and the PID (which is what dictates gender) is retained from one of them, while the other is deleted and a random one is made each time you unfuse
actually do you prefer is i just
hack in a gender stone in pallet town
acoustic plover
Someone DMed me to offer that already I’m good
So every time I unfuse body stays the same and head is randomized, for it
mint spear
i believe thats it
acoustic plover
And what about refusing? It’s also randomized?
Like every time I fuse is also randomized
mint spear
re-fusing keeps the body PID i believe
acoustic plover
That doesn’t make sense though, how does f + f make m then
mint spear
because it's the PID of the body, but using the head's gender ratio i believe
acoustic plover
Ohhh because it keeps the body’s PID but borrows gender ratios from the head - meaning 37.5% of the time, your female ralts would be a male chalts
Yep
acoustic beacon
rustic finch
sad boi
acoustic beacon
sadder
acoustic beacon
is this custom???
fluid karma
Yes, I think it was a joke sprite
craggy arrow
hack in a gender stone in pallet town
How do you do that?
mint spear
with mv
craggy arrow
What's mv?
mint spear
what should i fuse doduo with?
weavile
brisk bramble
where can i find one?
brisk bramble
doing base
mint spear
no idea then
cobalt granite
maybe route 40? not quiet sure at all
brisk bramble
well waht would be another cool option?
cobalt granite
maybe route 36?
i knowed once i found a sneasel at route 1 but was in a randomizer...
turbid grotto
Any suggestions for cool looking fusions with wartortle?
brisk bramble
is there any way to get duskull?
fluid karma
Yes
brisk bramble
where can i aquire one?
fluid karma
where can i aquire one?
#playthrough-talk message
craggy arrow
is there any way to get duskull?
Secret forest is where I got mine
mint spear
cobalt granite
huh....?
mint spear
?
cobalt granite
im wodering how you get arceus....
fluid karma
Check the wiki
cobalt granite
so, Oakwood have litteraly catched all the legenadary bird and dog?!
mint spear
nah my friend changed the legendary birds with arceus
fluid karma
so, Oakwood have litteraly catched all the legenadary bird and dog?!
Still, catching all those Pokemon isn't very unusual
placid ginkgo
you're mistaken if you think that
boreal canyon
oh my god my heart
I made Smeargle / Sylveon if you want to evolve it to a custom sprite. 😄
fluid karma
oh my god my heart
That one is custom, but not very good beyond the concept
turbid grotto
I mean I was posting it because I like it
mystic vector
oh my god my heart
just some minor touchups, and is perfect
boreal canyon
Recoloured it, don't like the tail shape but kept it the same. 😛
oak arch
I dont like the tail being so edgy
boreal canyon
I don't either, but I was just recolouring it. 😂
oak arch
its bugging me
boreal canyon
It's not aligned, the original sprite probably came from a Redditor who wasn't aware of how to show roundness in sprites (because it is pretty hard). 😅
fluid karma
Even though you just have to copy paste the tail
cobalt granite
i guess so..
boreal canyon
Even though you just have to copy paste the tail
You would be surprised by how many people don't do that. 😂
wet shard
Why are the eyes two different colors?
craggy arrow
So I finally got the Smeargle/Shedinja fusion and taught it curse, but unfortunately the damage does knock it out. Will a focus sash work to prevent KO'ing myself with curse? Does anybody know where I could get one?
fluid karma
A focus sash disappears after 1 use, so I think you should just choose a different strategy
craggy arrow
oh didn't realize that
thanks for the heads up, guess there's no fix
maybe instead of curse I'll give it toxic or smthn
stoic summit
finally, a good fusion
fluid karma
Not as good as Shinx/Ralts
plain fern
messing around in the fusion generator and this beauty came up
It's like an infernape wearing an oni mask
spring marten
👌
dense thistle
I love the look of this fusion but y does the sprite cover the text?
deep delta
because it's too big, probably
the canvas is the right size but the sprite fills too much of it
cobalt granite
yeah
acoustic beacon
Also the Pokédex description... it drains the life force, yet also protects its trainer with its life
so it protects trainers with their own life force
simple osprey
Perfectly balanced
acoustic beacon
but the problem is is that I caught Cloyster fully evolved so it can't learn ANY Water Moves that do damage via level up
which means I'll have to wait until Surf for a Water Move that does damage
if even THAT works
how do I check TM compatibility for this game?
tame tide
use bulbapedia and go to the gen 5 area and that will be mostly right, outside of fairy type moves
acoustic beacon
except it's not
Water Pulse is in the game, which was a TM in Gens 3 and 4, so therefore all Pokémon that learned it THOSE Generations should learn it in this one
but since I have 2 Water Types that can't even learn Water Pulse, it means even going by Gen 5 TMs is unreliable too
also which Pokémon can even LEARN Water Pulse?
only Gen 5 mon?
Mudflora can't learn it either
so can ANY Pokémon learn Water Pulse?
subtle cipher
My Feraligatr learnt it
acoustic beacon
plus Mudkip learns Water Pulse via level up, yet can't via TM
so is only FE Water Types? No, because Cloyster can't learn it
tame tide
it may be based on if they can learn it by level up
cause Cloyster doesn't learn it either by level, nor does Staryu, but then Feraligatr doesn't but they can learn it, so no clue
acoustic beacon
I feel like only like 4 Water Types can learn Water Pulse in this game and they're all FE starters
that's the problem basing the game on Gen 5 TM complatability, especially for moves that weren't even TMs in Gen 5
acoustic beacon
the game only goes off of what can learn WP via egg moves or level up
which is nowhere NEAR the amount that SHOULD learn it
hidden bison
Do the fusions have their own evolutions or do I have to individually evolve the two Pokemon
fluid karma
Do the fusions have their own evolutions or do I have to individually evolve the...
Each half evolves the same way the normal Pokémon does, read #fusion-faq
wet shard
I love the look of this fusion but y does the sprite cover the text?
Embrace Sword. Makes me think of the phrase "return to monke"
simple osprey
Reject guns return to sword
vivid bay
reject swords return to knife
simple osprey
Reject knife return to stone
vivid bay
reject stone return to atoms
rustic finch
Reject atoms return to non existant
mint spear
acoustic plover
so wait, no Aegislash fusions work right, right? Would I be completely screwed over using them, or would it still be good
mint spear
they're okay so long as you get a different ability