cause deoxys attack isnt available
#fusions
neat moat
cosmic saddle
wooooooooow
Kyogre/groudon has the highest bst in the game I think
Something with guts might be better
Yeah Machamp/rampardos with 152
neat moat
not even taking items into account
nah thats still less. 664 attack if im doing math right
cause 50% is 1.5 even if the base attack stat is higher
hidden bison
cosmic saddle
Oh true guts is 50%
plucky basin
How do you get hidden abilities in this game anyway?
neat moat
i heard they were broken
hidden bison
they are
desert silo
hidden bison
Huge Power is only legal on Azumarill on body fusions sadly
reef trellis
Looking for a OP fusions any help?
Ninjask typhlosion fusion
It can become typeless and take zero damage
snow fern
You don't mean shedninja
reef trellis
Right, my b
hidden bison
yeah
snow fern
Well in this version you're able to pick what ability it has so I was just curious
snow fern
Okay then any Gardevoir fusions you recommend?
reef trellis
Gardevoir honedge just because it's a fate reference
snow fern
Yeah I got that one. I also got palkia, Darkrai, Arceus, and Rayquaza
They're all fused with a Gardevoir
reef trellis
Nice
snow fern
At this point I'm just looking for better fusions
snow fern
hidden bison
It can become typeless and take zero damage
this doesn't work unfortunately, or it wouldn't in the main game, only the Fire Type becomes typeless it'll still have it's Bug or Ghost typing
reef trellis
Oh
hidden bison
cool idea though
reef trellis
this doesn't work unfortunately, or it wouldn't in the main game, only the Fire ...
Oh
reef trellis
Oh, i never saw that one in the calculator
The calculator showed me two different ones
quaint basin
showsprite Gardevoir/honedge
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quaint basin
Sorry boss I'll go to Bot command next time
snow fern
If that typhlosion and should ninja don't work then what's the best fusion then?
hidden bison
Wonder Guard Lopunny/Shedinja with Endeavor Quick Attack is probably the cheesiest, or a Wonderguard Steel Bug with a similar set since it's immune to poison and sand and still only has one weakness, Fire, and you can switch into a Flash Fire immunity mon and it's usually obvious if an in-game mon has a Fire type move
reef trellis
Lol yeah
snow fern
So what if I put Arceus with a steel plate and shed ninja
reef trellis
Or maybe a sturdy shedinja fusion
reef trellis
So what if I put Arceus with a steel plate and shed ninja
Baller
snow fern
Would that work? A shedninja with sturdy
What pokémon can learn sturdy other than Geodude another rock/ ground pokémon
hidden bison
if you go that route go Ghost/Normal since it's only weak to dark and do an Extreme Speed Killer set with Swords Dance
since it has STAB on it
and it's +2 priority
snow fern
So go Arceus plus should ninja and he has to have sword, dance and extreme speed then the only thing I could attack it is dark type?
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snow fern
That looks so much cooler than the one with ageislash
hidden bison
So go Arceus plus should ninja and he has to have sword, dance and extreme speed...
yeah Extreme Speed Swords Dance is already Arceus's best set
and one of the best sets period
snow fern
So ability wonder guard which nature is better, quiet or brave
steep coyote
Skill swap shedninja fusion Pokémon
snow fern
I want to say brave but I don't know which one would be better in the long run
hidden bison
So ability wonder guard which nature is better, quiet or brave
Brave, but Adamant or Jolly would be best
snow fern
Well neither of them have it my Arceus or the shed ninja I have
hidden bison
Shedinja also gets Shadow Sneak for Priority for Ghost Types and that's already perfect coverage and you'd be at +6 already most of the time
steep coyote
Shedninja fused with arcanine keeping shedninja ability
This is due two one of the moves
On arc
That removes its typing
So that would elmenate the reason for skill swap
plain holly
It just makes the fusion pure Bug or Ghost tho
hidden bison
this doesn't work unfortunately, or it wouldn't in the main game, only the Fire ...
.
steep coyote
It just makes the fusion pure Bug or Ghost tho
The move removes its typing
Making it yup less
hidden bison
we were just talking about that ^^^
steep coyote
Typless*
plain holly
Only the fire one
steep coyote
Oh
plain holly
You become typeless if you're pure fire
steep coyote
But what about arceus fire plate with shedninja wonder gaurd
And if arceus can lure the fire move
To remove it
Would it still be
Bug
plain holly
Yes
steep coyote
How can you get around that
plain holly
Because fire plate Shed/Arc is Bug/Fire
snow fern
Could just give him the bug plate make him pure bug?
Or would he get the ghost of typing back?
What level does Arceus learn? Sword dance?
plain holly
if you give Arc/Shed the ghost plate, it'll be Ghost/Bug, but if you give Shed/Arc the bug plate, it'll be pure Bug
snow fern
So that move that removes typing work then?
plain holly
No, Burn Up only removes fire type if you have it
steep coyote
Wait
snow fern
Oh okay I get it now
plain holly
Fails otherwise
hidden bison
so Shedinja/Ferroseed is Bug/Steel and gets Endeavor Shadow Sneak
plain holly
Correct
hidden bison
oh I wasn't asking haha
steep coyote
Does move changing types
cosmic saddle
Are you really playing the game if you’re using endevour shadow sneak though? Maybe send me your save file and I play for you?
plain holly
Still correct tho 
hidden bison
we were talking about something like it earlier
plain holly
The only moves that change your own type are Conversion and Conversion2, they make you single type
And, well, Burn Up that removes your fire type
hidden bison
Shedinja/Ferrothorn is Bug/Grass though I guess Ferroseed's Typing flips when it evolves
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plain holly
If you're, let's say, Lanturn/Porygon with Signal Beam as your first slot move, Conversion will turn you from Water/Normal into pure Bug type
hidden bison
or the main type was changed like some other pokemon
plain holly
Conversion2 is the same except you gain a type that resists the last attack that was used on you
snow fern
Now for an item with spooky plate be good or is there a better ghost type item?
steep coyote
Wait
hidden bison
except change Arceus's type
snow fern
plain holly
Plates have the same effect as their regular item counterparts except there's no item for fairy type besides fairy plate
snow fern
storm tinsel
what are some cool Charizard fusions?
snow fern
Is there a different attack I should use other than hyper voice?
hidden bison
Now for an item with spooky plate be good or is there a better ghost type item?
you want Silk Scarf if you're gonna use the Shedinja Arceus set I mentioned
snow fern
Okay where do I get silk scarf at?
steep coyote
In theory if you give an arceus/electric type fusion with the fusion give him electric and ||you use the new scarlet and violet move double shock which removes t||he typing and then you use skill swapping shedninja so arceus can have wonder gaurd would that make him immune to everything
plain holly
In theory if you give an arceus/electric type fusion with the fusion give him el...
Spoiler the move info please
Also, there's no gen 9 moves in the game, only those up to gen 7
hidden bison
you should use Swords Dance, Extreme Speed, Shadow Sneak, and probably just a good coverage move or something to protect it from indirect damage
steep coyote
Also, there's no gen 9 moves in the game, only those up to gen 7
I am saying in general
Would that work
snow fern
you should use Swords Dance, Extreme Speed, Shadow Sneak, and probably just a go...
What about judgment with the silk scarf?
Is there a normal plate I can get that's better than the silk scarf
hidden bison
What about judgment with the silk scarf?
Extreme Speed is already nearly as powerfull and +2 Priority always going first
steep coyote
What what judgments typing be if it corresponds with his typing???
hidden bison
and you'll be at +6
steep coyote
Cause arceus is Typless in the occasion I said
plain holly
Judgement changes type with the plate
So it'll have the type as whatever plate you're holding
steep coyote
But would that move remove the type for like burn up
Cause he is pure fire
If you use it with another fire
Type
snow fern
Well, I'll be holding silk scarf. I just don't know of any other moves that would be more beneficial than hyper voice
It's just an extra move that was in the roster
plain holly
If you use Soak on Arcrus with electric plate, it'll become Water type Arceus with Electric Arceus appearance and Electric type Judgement
steep coyote
So arceus/arcanine fire plate burn up
hidden bison
Okay where do I get silk scarf at?
Arceus gets Safeguard you could use that so you can't die from status like poison or burn
steep coyote
So arceus/arcanine fire plate burn up
Would it be solo fire or Typless
plain holly
So arceus/arcanine fire plate burn up
It'll be pure Normal with fire type Judgement
steep coyote
Why is it normal cause the plate changes his typing
hidden bison
Well, I'll be holding silk scarf. I just don't know of any other moves that woul...
or sunny day or rain dance so you don't die from weather
plain holly
Wonder Guard can't be Skill Swapped
steep coyote
Why?
plain holly
Because this is how it works
hidden bison
It's just an extra move that was in the roster
or double team to boost your evasion so even if a dark type attack or a status move gets used it probably misses
plain holly
There are some abilities that can't be Skill Swapped, Wonder Guard is one of them
snow fern
Okay double team wins. What about silk scarf? Where do I get that?
plain holly
You can only get Wonder Guard on another mon if Shedinja uses mimiced Entrainment
steep coyote
There are some abilities that can't be Skill Swapped, Wonder Guard is one of the...
Ok so he is just Typless would everything be immune
plain holly
Yes
hidden bison
Okay double team wins. What about silk scarf? Where do I get that?
look on the wiki
steep coyote
That’s a one turn set up right?
plain holly
There's a double battles strategy where Shedinja with Mimic mimics Entrainment and uses it on typeless Arcanine or Typhlosion
It takes several turns to do
steep coyote
I am also talking about the Typless arceus strat
plain holly
- Shedinja uses Mimic on your ally that just used Entrainment on the opponent before Shedinja
- Mon with Entrainment switches on Arcanine while Shedinja uses Entrainment on it
- Arcanine uses Burn Up and becomes typeless
I'm pretty sure Shedinja can't learn Mimic in IF tho, as it's a very specific move tutor from gen 3 and IF doesn't have it
So unless your opponent is Shedinja, you don't have any ways to pass Wonder Guard on other mons in IF
hidden bison
It's just an extra move that was in the roster
I guess you could run a dark type attack to since another ghost normal will be immune to your attacks but it's not very likely you'll ever be up against one and you have 5 other pokemon
snow fern
So shadow ball workers or is there a better one
hidden bison
Okay double team wins. What about silk scarf? Where do I get that?
oh and Shedinja gets Priority Sucker Punch
shadow ball is a ghost type move
reef trellis
Man, we really went from good fusion ideas to how can we make the best shedinja cheese
hidden bison
Man, we really went from good fusion ideas to how can we make the best shedinja ...
didn't you bring it up in the first place lol
reef trellis
Yeah, i was the transition
I thought a typeless shedinja would be the ultimate cheese
hidden bison
yeah rip
snow fern
So where do you get sucker punch then?
snow fern
You by chance know what town?
plain holly
...wait, it was #fusions all this time???
I thought we're in #playthrough-talk
Let's move there
hidden bison
You by chance know what town?
the wiki does
we're talking about fusion combinations, oh the channel description even says that haha
hidden bison
movepools of fusions
just that one tutor question
if you can't theorymon fusions in this channel idk what you can do aside from post sprites
oh no
plain holly
Sure, I think you can talk about specific fusions movepools here, let's just leave long mechanics conversations for #general or #playthrough-talk (I'm guilty for that 
)
hidden bison
cool
plain holly
I honestly didn't notice we're in a wrong channel while talking about all these Burn Up strats lmfao
hidden bison
topaz shadow
Yo so it's telling me I already ||did a triple fusion between Feraligatr, Meganium and Typhlosion when I definitely haven't|| (endgame spoiler)
Anyone know what that's about?
Ah shit good point
my b
hidden bison
Rainbow-oh
frail rose
Not quite rainbow, yellow and blue are there and pink is a shade of red so close enough I guess
hidden bison
I think it's literally meant to be a rainbow with the clouds there, if not that what
frail dust
pan
hidden bison
that's not how that word works lol
hidden bison
..yes I know what that is lol, that pan isn't an arc of light though
you could say it's a pan colored rainbow I guess but the thing itself is meant to be a rainbow
frail rose
"Pan colored rainbow" Yes, I figured that was obvious due to the people I hang around so I should be more careful about that next time cause some might not know
hidden bison
Not quite rainbow, yellow and blue are there and pink is a shade of red so close...
you corrected me that it was "not quite rainbow" lol, that's what I'm referring to
frail rose
you corrected me that it was "not quite rainbow" lol, that's what I'm referring ...
It appears as if I am the one who misunderstood
frail rose
Trans-voir
I like the sylveon fusions
neat moat
also, klefki is in the game?
frail rose
it reminds me of fruity pebbles or lucky charms
Never thought about that, true
frail rose
also, klefki is in the game?
Yes, that Ho-Oh fusion I posted is a klefki fusion
wraith island
I have a bunch of really cool pokemon, but I have no idea what's going to work with what.
here's the pokemon I got, would anyone reccomend some good fusions for me =3
frail rose
wraith island
I know about the tool, ty. The tool only tells you fusion results, it doesn't tell you what works with what you gotta know what all the stats mean
frail rose
I know about the tool, ty. The tool only tells you fusion results, it doesn't te...
OH you meant stats
wraith island
I dont know any of that stuff, so I figured I'd see what you guys reccomend
wraith island
I don't know what all the stats mean, I don't know how a lot of typings work. I'm asking for suggestions. Ty for the tools but I already have them
frail rose
What do you mean by "Work good together"
wraith island
which fusions are good. It's just a general question. Here's my box, if you see any two pokemon you think would make a good combo then plz, by all means reccomend
that's all im asking lol
frail rose
Appearance good combo or stats and resistances combo?
neat moat
im on mobile rn but a good way to tell is to see which has the higher “total” under it
wraith island
stats and resistances
but if you think you got a neat looks combo too I'll try it out
neat moat
im on mobile rn but a good way to tell is to see which has the higher “total” un...
dont really need to understand the individual stats too much
frail rose
stats and resistances
Magnezone/Metagross
neat moat
gastly/umbreon is ghost/dark which gives it three immunities so thats pretty good
wraith island
Magnezone/Metagross
I gotta find me a beldom
wraith island
gastly/umbreon is ghost/dark which gives it three immunities so thats pretty goo...
I'mma try that
any reccomendations for the swordy boy?
I've been trying to find something cool for him cause he's cool as f
frail rose
Only 4 2X weaknesses, 4 neutrals, 8 regular resistances, 1 4X resistance, and 1 immunity
frail rose
I gotta find me a beldom
Area 5 (Pokeradar)
hidden bison
which fusions are good. It's just a general question. Here's my box, if you see ...
Magnezone/Gengar has really good offensive stats and an amazing typing in Steel/Ghost, I swapped the sprite for this one of the reverse fusion
neat moat
honedge is also a ghost type so if you fuse it correctly it can also be a ghost/dark with umbreon
frail rose
You like this? 3 weaknesses but plenty of resistances
wraith island
that thing looks cool
frail rose
Ikr?
median quest
i have a shiny slowpoke any suggestion?
frail rose
Aegislash has so many great ones
lofty stone
what is this a fusion of ?
frail rose
i have a shiny slowpoke any suggestion?
I know theres a shiny version of aegide but I don't have the link anymore
frail rose
what is this a fusion of ?
Gardevoir/Gallade
lofty stone
ohvok
wraith island
Sludge.
Happiness.
Pokemon.
neat moat
both of these have pretty high special attack. one on the right is bulkier while one on the right is faster
hidden bison
lol it's evolution
neat moat
it looks depressed</3
wraith island
I'd be pretty f-ing depressed if I looked like that too
hidden bison
it looks scared it's being enveloped by the goo
full crypt
lofty stone
both of these have pretty high special attack. one on the right is bulkier while...
though the faster one has many resistances
finite ember
You like this? 3 weaknesses but plenty of resistances
fire steel typing gets access to a move tutor that teaches it soleo's signature attack
neat moat
yeah, two immunities as well. cant be poisoned either
frail rose
fire steel typing gets access to a move tutor that teaches it soleo's signature ...
Pretty strong iirc
neat moat
what is this? muk/???
finite ember
Pretty strong iirc
sunsteel strike I think
frail rose
Yep
full crypt
what is this? muk/???
muk/milotic
finite ember
definitely take a look at the special move tutor lists that are pinned to find some interesting possibilities
hidden bison
Pretty strong iirc
100 Base Power 100% accuracy Steel attack
finite ember
taught by electivire fusion with motor drive plasma fists so any normal attacks will make it faster
frail rose
100 Base Power 100% accuracy Steel attack
Yeah, pretty strong
finite ember
Gardevoir reshiram
hidden bison
gardevoir blaziken
frail rose
Part moltress, I see it in the background
lofty stone
lofty stone
Part moltress, I see it in the background
yes I gave a hint too XD
Gardevoir/Moltres
frail rose
I noticed the hint :D
lofty stone
wraith island
so I'm gonna fuse umbreon with shedinja, and then I wanna find something to fuse honage with
any good pokemon types to look out for to fuse with a honage?
neat moat
you have shedinja?
wraith island
you have shedinja?
yea it was off screen in my party
could you recommend any good typings to look out for, for fusing my honedge?
probably a dark type
neat moat
this one might be good? it only has one resistance but it has pretty high def and spdef. could be a good wall?
frail rose
this one might be good? it only has one resistance but it has pretty high def an...
It's got 3 immunities too
neat moat
that too
wraith island
ooooooo nice!
frail rose
Aggron/Blastoise is just aggron but rounder and with heavy artillery
neat moat
its kinda slow but thats not the biggest issue
hidden bison
i'm currently using aggron/blastoise on my team
worn yacht
neat moat
rip
wraith island
He looks hideous now, but his evolution is going to be sick
proud tendon
gripass
vale bobcat
Its name is literally GRIPASS
lofty stone
change it to N-pass
frail dust
grip-ass
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frail rose
The one showed is an alternate sprite
rotund dune
Oh
frail rose
Go into the pokedex and find that mon then go to sprites
Press C then you should be able to swap through various available sprites
hidden bison
you can also just do it from the pokemon info screen, interact and then go to pokedex
rotund dune
Press C then you should be able to swap through various available sprites
Thanks
frail rose
you can also just do it from the pokemon info screen, interact and then go to po...
That's prolly faster than searching through the open pokedex but still
runic cypress
Most things fused with scizor look good with scizor for the body which also gives it the best stats, but the downside is that for it to use technician he cant have it as the body so im kind of stuck here. anyone have any suggestions for a fusion that looks good but not have trash stats?
frail rose
Most things fused with scizor look good with scizor for the body which also give...
Magnezone/Metagross
runic cypress
for scizor
hidden bison
lol
frail rose
Fair
runic cypress
Hes one of my favs and i need his technician
frail rose
Most things fused with scizor look good with scizor for the body which also give...
So just no scizor body fusions?
hidden bison
yes
runic cypress
Yes something with decent stats and looks. to get him to have technician he cant be the body
edgy cloak
I'll take it
runic cypress
looks derpy, but has amazing stats lol
runic cypress
ok that one i really like
edgy cloak
Charbard
hidden bison
Yes something with decent stats and looks. to get him to have technician he cant...
Idk how fancy you want the sprite but Scizor head Scizor/Kingler has an amazing Typing and way better stats than Kingler/Scizor
runic cypress
Its not a bad looking sprite either, imma keep looking but will go out and get me a kingler for if i dont find anything else
hidden bison
It's a good sprite but not like an original base sprite or something
neat moat
Why is it unnecessarily good
at first glance i honestly thought this was a custom sprite
neat moat
Idk how fancy you want the sprite but Scizor head Scizor/Kingler has an amazing ...
its also immune to being poisoned
hidden bison
yeah it has a lot of good attributes I didn't list, Kingler might get Technician Aqua Jet idk
no it doesn't unfortunately
crystal vapor
The lil buddy :D
hidden bison
Light Ball Technician Charge Beam Scizor/Pikachu lol
runic cypress
finally turn on randomizer and the first thing i get is a lvl 8 rayquaza/salamence wtf lol
runic cypress
Light Ball Technician Charge Beam Scizor/Pikachu lol
if this thing was stronger id totally use it lopl
lol
rose totem
Anyone know any good poison dark types
hidden bison
if this thing was stronger id totally use it lopl
Thick Club Technician 150 BP Bonemerang Steel/Ground Scizor/Marowak
runic cypress
ooh he looks nice
wraith island
what would be the best types to pair with psychic for most resistances/fewest weaknesses?
hidden bison
what would be the best types to pair with psychic for most resistances/fewest we...
Steel
plain holly
Steel is always the answer for most resistances
wraith island
lol
hidden bison
then normal then fairy then poison
plain holly
Normal Psychic is really good
runic cypress
what about legendries paired with scizor?
wraith island
Normal Psychic is really good
That gives me a VERY good idea
hidden bison
normal psychic is ok defensively but offensively it kinda suffers from Normal not having any super-effective coverage
Technician 75 BP Fell Stinger so it's a decent attack on it's own and then it raises your attack 3 stages when you KO something
it's basically Mega Scizor though lol
runic cypress
so now i just have to hop the rng gods love me enough today to give me a genesect
crystal vapor
rest + sleep talk + calm mind and psychic turns that thing into a MONSTER probably
hidden bison
wraith island
Hey I evolved like 2 ninjasks now and I can't get a shedinja
oops wrong place to ask sorry
hidden bison
lol I like it
split geyser
lol I like it
which pokemon is it?
hidden bison
Scizor/Girafarig
hidden bison
idk there's 170,000 plus fusion combos to play with
you can make your own Farigaraf with fusions
I think someone might've posted it's sprite for a fusion, maybe girafarig/Girafarig
worn yacht
Pidth💀💀💀
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neat moat
you can make your own Farigaraf with fusions
oh thats true
hidden bison
oh thats true
#sprite-gallery message here's the sprite too, and you could combine it with something to give it really similar stats and stuff
and just change the sprite
neat moat
oh, thats a great sprite
native path
showsprite charizard/magikarp
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This fusion doesn't appear to have a custom sprite! You can search for it in the #sprite-gallery to make sure.
native path
Showsprite magikarp/charizard
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modest lava
modest lava
Showsprite magikarp/charizard
^
native path
He’s beautiful
wraith island
Wonder what I should fuse him with...
hidden bison
Scyther might even be better than Scizor in most fusion's because it has about the same attack and so much more speed
frigid cobalt
Bro looks 🔥🔥🔥
mortal apex
yeaaaah
frigid cobalt
Yessir
mortal apex
Yugi Be proud of me
sturdy ice
mortal apex
i think i made him too powerful
split geyser
she's beautiful
signal osprey
hidden bison
ooh
signal osprey
showsprite darkrai/shedinji
sharp daggerBOT
I'm not sure what Pokémon you're asking for, did you misspell something?
signal osprey
showsprite darkrai/shedinja
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trim arrow
showsprite Mewtwo/Genesect/Deoxys
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signal osprey
that one was 65k but its random
you can find that black market in like
celadon, yeah
in the back of the cafe at night
mortal apex
celadon?
mortal apex
celadon city?
signal osprey
yes
and you can sleep in the hotel until night and then head next door into the cafe
mortal apex
how did i miss that
signal osprey
i wouldn't have known if there wasn't a guy outside during the day that says
signal osprey
the tm?
mortal apex
yes that i bought from shop
signal osprey
idk if you can sell tms
broken island
fluid karma
i wouldn't have known if there wasn't a guy outside during the day that says
Unsurprisingly, a lot of people don’t know where to go in the game despite NPCs telling you blatantly where to go
midnight totem
How to reverse fuse?
carmine moss
How to reverse fuse?
select the pokemon you want to unfuse select "unfuse" and you need a DNA splicer
midnight totem
select the pokemon you want to unfuse select "unfuse" and you need a DNA splicer
Oh, I thought it was just an actual feature to reverse fuse, eh
hidden bison
select the pokemon you want to unfuse select "unfuse" and you need a DNA splicer
no that's unfusing, you need a reverser
hidden bison
Oh, I thought it was just an actual feature to reverse fuse, eh
it is
midnight totem
Oh, thanks, also is there a bot here that tells me certain pokemon fusion stats?
carmine moss
oh my bad i misread
hidden bison
yeah you can go to the bot channel or use the fusion calculator yourself by just typing in the pokemon's names
midnight totem
Too bad I can't unfuse my Charfree because it's traded , I could've have gotten a Bulbasaur+Charizard fusion
sharp daggerBOT
Hey @midnight totem! Are you trying to unfuse a Fusion you got from a trade? Pokémon with a different OT than yours cannot be unfused! However, you can make it forget its OT in the school in Violet City (post game) for ₱50 000. You're free to unfuse it after that!
midnight totem
Post game? As in after Jhoto or Kanto?
frail rose
Oh, thanks, also is there a bot here that tells me certain pokemon fusion stats?
Want stats, types, types weaknesses and resistances, abilites, and both orders of a fusion? Use aegide
split canopy
Post game? As in after Jhoto or Kanto?
Violet City is in Johto
crystal vapor
showsprite raichu/gyarados
sharp daggerBOT
Hey @crystal vapor please go to #ask-a-bot or Aegide's calculator (https://aegide.github.io/) to avoid spamming this channel!
timber moss
nevermind found it
midnight totem
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Aegide/custom-fusion-sprites/main/CustomBattle...
Looks hideous, but loveable
sharp daggerBOT
Hey @midnight totem! Don't use the command so often here! Please go to #ask-a-bot to use this command freely, or use Aegide's calculator! https://aegide.github.io/
sharp daggerBOT
Hey @crystal vapor! Are you trying to evolve Pikachu? It evolves with a Thunder Stone!
crystal vapor
ok cool its the same
midnight totem
Where to find Machap?
delicate python
rock tunnel
midnight totem
rock tunnel
Chances are?
delicate python
that I am not certain, but going through it recently i saw it a few times in there
fallow oriole
how did you make exodia lol
Cofagrigus golurk
delicate python
ty
vernal dome
Sheeeesh
somber merlin
I love Scarecrow sprites so much
Prob my current fav spriter
May do a Scarecrow sprite only run
restive apex
i really like meowth/magikarp.. a true catfish
primal olive
hidden bison
Basically Greninja at home
Cloyster/Zoroark
hidden bison
Can I use Wigglytuff/Raichu for Raichu/Wigglytuff? I want a Electric/Fairy like the latter but adore the former's design.
hidden bison
Basically Greninja at home
I wrote this whole little write-up on Cloyster/Lucario that almost completely applies to Cloyster/Zoroark too on how good it is, but basically it's because it gets Skill Link guaranteed 5-hit 75 BP priority Water Shuriken, and Shell Smash and Nasty Plot to boost it, plus a lot of priority and guaranteed 5-hit multi-hit attacks, and then it's Water/Dark like Greninja
proud sphinx
I wrote this whole little write-up on Cloyster/Lucario that almost completely ap...
This sounds menacing af😭😭
hidden bison
and then it can be boosted even further by infinite rain in this game from Drizzle
proud sphinx
Naruto at home:
proud sphinx
and then it can be boosted even further by infinite rain in this game from Drizz...
Wait its infinite?
hidden bison
yeah all weather is in this lol
proud sphinx
sighs in remaking Mega Swampert Time to demolish the e4 and mt. Silver once again
proud sphinx
Can I use Wigglytuff/Raichu for Raichu/Wigglytuff? I want a Electric/Fairy like ...
I actually wanna know this too
hidden bison
Can I use Wigglytuff/Raichu for Raichu/Wigglytuff? I want a Electric/Fairy like ...
yeah just swap the sprite numbers in the custombattlers game folder
proud sphinx
What other mons are actually considered ninjas? Ik the obvious ones (Zoroark, Shedinja, Ninjask etc.)
hidden bison
yeah just swap the sprite numbers in the custombattlers game folder
Thanks. Like yeah I think former fits more with Electric/Fairy than the latter does.
oh no sorry Bisharp instead of Shedinja
Goated
hidden bison
Thanks. Like yeah I think former fits more with Electric/Fairy than the latter d...
yeah that sprite goes hard
hidden bison
Bisharp and Ninjask Cloyster fusions didn't really have enough special attack to take advantage of Water Shuriken as well
The Lucario one is pretty heat
proud sphinx
Bisharp and Ninjask Cloyster fusions didn't really have enough special attack to...
Yeah cause the ninjas like to get physical
Any decent special attacker mon would get the job done though I think
hidden bison
Cloyster is what gives access to Skill Link to hit guaranteed 5 times otherwise it's only 15 BP hitting 2-5 times and pretty weak most the time
like with Skill Link and only 96 special attack it barely hits weaker than Ash-Greninja which has *153 special attack
proud sphinx
Cloyster is what gives access to Skill Link to hit guaranteed 5 times otherwise ...
Agreed, but does the fusion look better than THIS??:
hidden bison
well it's a autogen so lol
proud sphinx
Yeah😂😂
hidden bison
that's why I made the write-up, I was trying to get someone to make a sprite for it lol
proud sphinx
Maybe a sprite exists out in the world and I can just port it into the game
hidden bison
Maybe a sprite exists out in the world and I can just port it into the game
for an autogen Lucario's isn't completely terrible
proud sphinx
The nubs can be to focus its “aura” to fly, which removes the need for real feet
Or the nubs transform, if the mon was animated
hidden bison
like the imagination lol
proud sphinx
like the imagination lol
I just make it up as I go😂🤦🏾♂️ I already have a backstory for “Battle Bond Swampert”
And an origin to each of the moves it learns and how it learned them
hidden bison
ooh I bet Kyogre's Drizzle Water Shuriken would be really strong
proud sphinx
ooh I bet Kyogre's Drizzle Water Shuriken would be really strong
If I were to ignore my no-legends policy I would spam this
proud sphinx
Meanwhile Im out here just creating the most anime ass team I can think of💀
This seems fun
hidden bison
Kyogre/Zoroark's Drizzle Water Shuriken is obviously stronger but Skill Link Cloyster/Zoroark and Cloyster/Lucario's are surprisingly close
runic cypress
i give up on scizor, i unfused my one with technician and he went back to having swarm
hidden bison
ouch
proud sphinx
i give up on scizor, i unfused my one with technician and he went back to having...
Oof
F in chat
I might just copycat one of my fav characters in the franchise
midnight totem
Is there a pokemon early on that has false swipe? I need one to grind my low levels before fighting misty
wraith island
"Mom! Can we get dragonite?" "No son, we have dragonite at home." Dragonite at home:
finite ember
saw naf's sick sprite for poliwrath/furret in #spriting-discussion and am trying to pick a good moveset for it. thoughts?
you get access to belly drum, coil, baton pass, and other good stuff
pale venture
you get access to belly drum, coil, baton pass, and other good stuff
Definitely use belly drum
shy nimbus
the cat
pale venture
Definitely use belly drum
U can try using belly drum then baton to pass on the stats to a more strong mon
finite ember
yeah true
finite ember
yeah
hidden bison
saw naf's sick sprite for poliwrath/furret in <#307020509856530434> and am tryi...
I haven't looked at the movepool yet but I know they get Coil + Hypnosis + Dynamic Punch
finite ember
furret's also got sucker punch and quick attack which is neat
finite ember
I haven't looked at the movepool yet but I know they get Coil + Hypnosis + Dynam...
not a bad idea
pale venture
I haven't looked at the movepool yet but I know they get Coil + Hypnosis + Dynam...
Or use it as a setup for other mons with sub coil belly drum and baton pass
hidden bison
to make them 100% accurate like Spore or if you had No Guard
pale venture
think I'll make 2 and have one with bp+bellydrum and one with coil+hypnosis
Try to hypnosis then setup
finite ember
poliwrath can't learn aqua jet? wow
hidden bison
looking through STAB Body Slam would synergize well parafusion with Dynamic Punch
hidden bison
oh yeah you might want to be using 100% accurate Hypnosis
sadly body press isn't in the game I don't think
plain holly
ye, it's gen 8 move, we only have moves prior to gen 7
hidden bison
Sucker Punch is strong priority, but you'd want to setup a few Coils first
pale venture
Sucker Punch is strong priority, but you'd want to setup a few Coils first
True
I might use the fusion
finite ember
I like this
pale venture
Considering it can be used as setup and offense
pale venture
I like this
Who made the sprite btw
finite ember
@abstract parrot did
pale venture
I wanna a use it
finite ember
It hasn't been posted to the gallery yet but I liked it so much I couldn't wait
pale venture
<@440910998610903050> did
Found it thanks to the trusty search bar
pale venture
I like this
Wait what abilities does it have access to
finite ember
Run Away / Damp
Water Absorb / Keen Eye / Swift Swim / Frisk
hidden bison
if the AI decides not to use an attacking move that 5 pp on Sucker Punch is gonna go quick, you might wanna go something like Coil, Hypnosis, Dynamic Punch, Waterfall, for good STAB, maybe even Rest over Dynamic Punch since you can keep boosting your defense and attack putting them to sleep guaranteed
pale venture
Run Away / Damp
Water Absorb / Keen Eye / Swift Swim / Frisk
What does keen eye do again
I forgot
hidden bison
can't lower accuracy
hidden bison
it's a hidden ability right?
pale venture
coil + swift swim with a rain team sounds funny
I'm pretty sure it already has a good speed stat no?
hidden bison
in Rain 83 would be good
finite ember
it's a hidden ability right?
yeah, which are broken at the moment.
but I have debug mode
pale venture
yeah, which are broken at the moment.
but I have debug mode <:malicious:94098747...
Debug?
rotund dune
finite ember
Debug?
if you collect all 420 base pokemon you can unlock debug mode which lets you set some parameters like abilities
pale venture
if you collect all 420 base pokemon you can unlock debug mode which lets you set...
I see
pale venture
if you collect all 420 base pokemon you can unlock debug mode which lets you set...
For all saves?
hidden bison
nice, screw the other stuff I said, this game has infinite rain, Waterfall is essential, and personally I'd want Coil and Hypnosis for 100% accuracy sleep that's always going to be going first in rain
finite ember
I'm not sure
pale venture
For all saves?
Time to waste my time
hidden bison
Water STAB moves are boosted from 1.5x to 2.25x in rain which is crazy
finite ember
i think if you start ng+ with a save with debug mode you get it back when you get to celadon where you get the debug item
pale venture
Water STAB moves are boosted from 1.5x to 2.25x in rain which is crazy
Das crazy
pale venture
i think if you start ng+ with a save with debug mode you get it back when you ge...
Boutta waste time
hidden bison
i think if you start ng+ with a save with debug mode you get it back when you ge...
or you can load up your save with debug and go to the main menu and start a new save and debug will still be on so you can give yourself magic boots again
on the new save
karmic storm
Will Pidgey and Mankey's fusion making them Fighting Flying? I'm going to fusion both of them
finite ember
oh neat
finite ember
Will Pidgey and Mankey's fusion making them Fighting Flying? I'm going to fusion...
yes, both ways
pale venture
I only have 136 base mons
hidden bison
you can check using the fusion calculator https://aegide.github.io/
pale venture
I only have 136 base mons
This is great
finite ember
I only have 136 base mons
if you unfuse pokemon to get more entries make sure they're in your party otherwise it won't count
pale venture
if you unfuse pokemon to get more entries make sure they're in your party otherw...
Alright
Ima go do that now
Peace
finite ember
take care
karmic storm
Where to find growlithe
sharp daggerBOT
Hey @karmic storm! Are you looking for a Growlithe? You can find them on Route 7, Route 8, Route 36, Route 37 and in the Pokemon Mansion!
worn nexus
Anyone have a good gyrados or lapras fusion?
finite ember
dugtrio/gyarados is op early in the game
worn nexus
Showsprite dugtrio/gyarados
sharp daggerBOT
Hey @worn nexus please go to #ask-a-bot or Aegide's calculator (https://aegide.github.io/) to avoid spamming this channel!
worn nexus
They look goofy
finite ember
awesome you mean
worn nexus
no
hidden bison
They look odd.
terse plinth
What are some people's favorites to fuse with Alakazam? Mine currently is with a Marowak but I feel like I might be able to do better
finite ember
What are some people's favorites to fuse with Alakazam? Mine currently is with a...
zoroark is a favorite of mine
terse plinth
Haven't caught one yet, but I'll keep my eyes peeled
pale venture
What are some people's favorites to fuse with Alakazam? Mine currently is with a...
Looks or stats?
terse plinth
Can be either, but I'd prefer it to look nice since the most I use it for is Teleport
finite ember
there's always gengar
terse plinth
That looks sick. And I already have a haunter, so why not, right?
finite ember
hell yeah
terse plinth
Not sure I'm up to shiny hunt Abra, but if there's somewhere I can get the Gengar line fairly commonly I'd be down for that sooner or later
sharp daggerBOT
Hey @terse plinth! Are you looking for a Abra? You can find them on Route 24 and in Cerulean Cape! You can also buy them from the Celadon Game Corner for 180 coins each.
pale venture
Not sure I'm up to shiny hunt Abra, but if there's somewhere I can get the Genga...
U don't have to shiny hunt actually
U can just add the shiny alt by owning the mon
Press summary
terse plinth
I'm sorry, my brain can't words right now. You'll have to elaborate
pale venture
I'm sorry, my brain can't words right now. You'll have to elaborate
Basically there's an alternate sprite for the Mon where u can access by just owning it
I believe its blue and white
finite ember
never heard of that
terse plinth
Oh, I saw something like that on the Cleffa/Pichu I had before I wonder traded it away
Toggle it in the pokedex, right?
pale venture
U go into summary press enter(or whatever u rebinded it to) and click pokedex then choose the sprite
pale venture
Toggle it in the pokedex, right?
Yeah
vernal dome
Do u only get fused mons in wobder trades???
vernal dome
Oh lol
vernal dome
Wait so can u fuse traded mons?? Because it said I couldnt unfuse i think
vernal dome
Oh
pale venture
ive heard unfusing wonder trade mons is postgame
Yeah
pale venture
Just fused both a togepi/bunneary + togepi/abra
I'd recommend not searching the final evos since it ruins the hype unless u saw the final evos before u got the mons
vernal dome
I'd recommend not searching the final evos since it ruins the hype unless u saw ...
Oh i dont mind spoilers on them I want my Pokemon League team to look nice lol
pale venture
Oh i dont mind spoilers on them I want my Pokemon League team to look nice lol
Alright
vernal dome
But I understand the exitement and surprise behind it
Now I needa figure out what to fuse my Gyrados with
:/
pale venture
Now I needa figure out what to fuse my Gyrados with
I have some fusions
U can try swampert and gyarados
Or perhaps Bisharp and gyarados which is just a big zen fish
terse plinth
i fused a geodude and a magikarp and it did pretty well for me through to golem-gyarados
vernal dome
Or perhaps Bisharp and gyarados which is just a big zen fish
Hmmm alright how far do I need to get swanp tho?
pale venture
Yall completed the e4 yet?
vernal dome
Not even close haha
pale venture
Hol up
vernal dome
Im still getting my third badge I barely started today
finite ember
I'm not sure how early you can get ponyta but gyarados and rapidash are great together
pale venture
Im still getting my third badge I barely started today
I think u get mudkip post game
Yikes
vernal dome
I think u get mudkip post game
Ohh okay
pale venture
Unless u picked it as ur starter
vernal dome
I'm not sure how early you can get ponyta but gyarados and rapidash are great to...
Bruh that looks majestic😂
vernal dome
Unless u picked it as ur starter
Nah I hav Charmander as my starter
finite ember
beautiful sprite, great typing, great stats, goo dmovepool
pale venture
Bruh that looks majestic😂
A real seahorse
vernal dome
Facts
pale venture
Hol up
What cool fusion mons don't have a sprite yet
I wanna start making sprites 🙂
finite ember
there's so many
vernal dome
Lol
pale venture
there's so many
Like?
vernal dome
U should make some for the tyrogue evolutions lol
I know theyre probably hard to incorporate with other mons but the sprites are all bad for them
pale venture
Alright
vernal dome
Lol
pale venture
Haxorus/salamence sprite is disappointing
vernal dome
Haxorus/salamence sprite is disappointing
True
pale venture
I was expecting an axe armoured dragon
Which is what I got
Not in he way I expected
*the
vernal dome
Lollll
vernal dome
Rip
pale venture
Some missed opportunities
vernal dome
Yeah but then there is so much pokemon combinations
pale venture
Oh wait it does
pale venture
The calculator is a bit outdated
vernal dome
Oh really?
pale venture
On some sprites yeah
vernal dome
Dang
vernal dome
Oh
errant rover
anyone got tyranitar or feraligator fusions that are good
im thinking about this or raichu for ttar
vernal dome
Lol
vernal dome
You can evolve mons through friendship still in this game right?
sharp daggerBOT
Hey @vernal dome! Are you trying to evolve a Pokémon? It probably evolves differently in Infinite Fusion! Ask me "how to evolve [prevo name]" to get a specific evolution method! Make sure to spell the Pokémon correctly.
You can also check the Wiki for more info: https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/Differences_with_the_official_games
If you're wondering about how fusions evolve in general, you can check out #fusion-faq!
sharp daggerBOT
Hey @vernal dome! Are you looking for a Shiny Stone?
In v4: You can buy them in Celadon once you have 6 badges!
In v5: You can buy them in Goldenrod! You will need the Train Pass to get there, which you get after completing one of the legendary bird quests as part of the main plot..
You can also get one earlier, if you talk to an NPC near the Pokécenter in Saffron City, after liberating Silph Co.
finite ember
I think one of the funniest things you can do is fuse sudowoodo with a tree and still not have him be grass type
vernal dome
Lol
vernal dome
Anyone have a good gyarados fusion? Dont care the stat
They told me Gyarados/Rapidash
magic trail
frail dust
I think one of the funniest things you can do is fuse sudowoodo with a tree and ...
because it's pseudo wood o
mint shard
Mhm, indeed
robust seal
worn nexus
also any cool grass fusions yall have?
I got lucky and got it in a trade
worn nexus
Sadge
empty parcel
Is there any good typhlosion fusion that has good stats?
mint shard
This guy's pretty cool
empty parcel
Alright thx
vernal dome
How to post in chat lol
mint shard
That's just an alt for Golurk
Golurk's dex says he can do that, and he does it in the anime
halcyon stump
Golurk's dex says he can do that, and he does it in the anime
HE CAN????
halcyon stump
wait i remember a pokedex entry that in the medieval days they used golurk instead of cannons
so flying cannon
wind dust
halcyon stump
any good eevee fusions? (i dont mind stats too much mostly looks)
mint shard
Which eeveelution is your favourite?
halcyon stump
Which eeveelution is your favourite?
anything really
i dont mind anything cause i like eevee and all of the eeveeutions in general
mint shard
I like Umbreon/Torterra
Zapdos/Jolteon's pretty cool too
And Houndoom/Jolteon's adorable
karmic storm
How to get those fusions back to normal
karmic storm
yes
mint shard
Just use another splicer on your fusion and it'll unfuse
halcyon stump
use another fusing thing
karmic storm
ok
halcyon stump
but some exp will get lost
karmic storm
ok
mint shard
Aggron/Vaporeon's sick as hell
halcyon stump
Zapdos/Jolteon's pretty cool too
might use this
mint shard
Very nice
mint shard
Lol
karmic storm
I caught a Weechu, just to unfuse both of them
karmic storm
People will like this one but I'm going to fuse Lopunny and Vaporeon, because I believe that fusion is a good fighter
vernal dome
Can someone tel me all the pokemon that spawn on route 11
karmic storm
I didn't go there yet
vernal dome
Oof
vernal dome
I have a spare bulba too but idk what to fuse it with
vernal dome
Lol
viscid fox
I have a spare bulba too but idk what to fuse it with
What you got to fuse bulba with?
vernal dome
Not much really
viscid fox
What pokemons
karmic storm
What's the best grass dual type
vernal dome
Sandshrew, Nincada or Slakoth
Alright thanks
karmic storm
Sandshrew, Nincada or Slakoth
Do you know where to find the latter of the two
viscid fox
I only made sprites for the game
karmic storm
Oh
viscid fox
But I guess you can find them if you look real hard in slme routes
karmic storm
I guess this one for me
viscid fox
Its not uncommon in fangamws to put other gen's pokemon in the grass with a low chance
karmic storm
ok
vernal dome
Its not uncommon in fangamws to put other gen's pokemon in the grass with a low ...
Wait so not all pokemon will show up with pokeradar than?
viscid fox
Uuuh idk
viscid fox
Also, bro tip fuse pikachu with slowpoke
frigid cobalt
Cool fusion terrible stats
viscid fox
It got 503 of total stats
viscid fox
Loses its electric weakness
vernal dome
Yeh
viscid fox
If that goes good with anything
Slowking/Ampharos has slightly lower stats
But check their movement to see which one is better for you
vernal dome
Okay
lilac lake
Since palkia can be fused to get the zodiak signs, does anybody knows how to get the libra one?
lilac lake
Yeah, but what would it be? Couse I have no idea😅
Speaking is pisces
Gardevoir virgo
Gallade aquarius
Kingler cancer
lilac lake
Oh, right! Even made it once but totally forgot about it. Thanks a lot mate
viscid fox
It took a bit but at least now you know more zodiac fusions!
halcyon stump
cool looking psychic fusion that does not include mewtwo? (i dont mind stats just looks)
lilac lake
Not the best typing, but torterra/unown for me it's the best as for the asset
viscid fox
Which starter you got?
halcyon stump
charmander
viscid fox
Dam uuuh
Well this one's is a task to catch
But the result ks gorgeous
Articuno/Espeon
lilac lake
Any idea for mawile, other than aegislash?
void storm
I saw this thing in the custom sprites download, and now i want an actual minecraft guardian version
void storm
Any idea for mawile, other than aegislash?
Something to use a big mouth... What about Victreebel?
lilac lake
Something to use a big mouth... What about Victreebel?
Hahaha, became pretty weird
As for now I think I'll go with dragonite
void storm
Cool
mild plank
is there a way to search for a fusion in the sprite packs (in the google drive link)?
I Fused spinarak and pikachu but its sprite doesnt look good
halcyon stump
anyone know what the old pokeball voltorb fusion is cause my game crashed when i tried catching it
and i want it
midnight totem
Is there a way I could get traded pokemon evolutions?
neat moat
they all evolve at 40 and also have items you can use like stones
the linking cord
if they need an item normally (like metal coat) then that item is the stone
frosty steeple
is there a way to search for a fusion in the sprite packs (in the google drive l...
try searching by dex number
or look in #sprite-gallery ?
halcyon stump
any voltorb fusions? that yall recommend
edgy cloak
Cool fusion terrible stats
Most of the dex is cool fusion terrible stats
neat moat
yeah, usually the original pokemon is just gonna be better
not counting typing and movesets
frail dust
hidden bison
that’s the ai generated sprite, but why?
verbal folio
showsprite Rayquaza/Zekrom
sharp daggerBOT
Hey @verbal folio please go to #ask-a-bot or Aegide's calculator (https://aegide.github.io/) to avoid spamming this channel!
gentle solar
Dear god.
sharp daggerBOT
Hey @hidden bison please go to #ask-a-bot or Aegide's calculator (https://aegide.github.io/) to avoid spamming this channel!
hidden bison
It’s not impossible
tardy bridge
showsprite charizard/dragonite
sharp daggerBOT
Hey @tardy bridge please go to #ask-a-bot or Aegide's calculator (https://aegide.github.io/) to avoid spamming this channel!
tardy bridge
goated fusion
Like actually I waited the entire game for a charnite
and it was incredible
the other one is alright too but charnite better
sharp daggerBOT
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bleak plaza
How to get arceus
sharp daggerBOT
Hey @bleak plaza! Are you looking for a Arceus? You can find the location of any Pokémon on the Wiki! https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/Locations!
bleak plaza
Showsprite dragonite/aerodactyl
sharp daggerBOT
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bleak plaza
Showsprite aerodactyl/dragonite
sharp daggerBOT
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floral mantle
graceful spindle
any good fusions with sceptile?
floral mantle
neat moat
aw its cute