#game-suggestions

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cobalt pollen
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Mantine head swift swim and body water absorb

mellow jewel
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isnt volt absorb hidden ability

cobalt pollen
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3: quagsire body water absorb

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yeah but illuminate is useless ability

mellow jewel
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well useless in competitive

cobalt pollen
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to be fair i am happy that houndoom head gives flash fire and azumarril head give double power

jade sky
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those are definitely fair suggestions, but i'm not sure if changing too much stuff from the base pokemon is a good idea.
i thought about that, too and i could easily come up with 20+ examples of mons i want changed based on their abilities or typings. but without an up to date wiki or an all knowing fusion calculator, fusing and knowing what you'll get out of it becomes kind of hard.
right now you can atleast check your pokemon database of choice for the end result your getting but how are you gonna remember all the exceptions your making. might be alright for veterans/long time players/discord lurkers but as a new player that would be annoying.
well, i don't mind any changes tbh. that lanturn suggestion is pretty good and i personally would like to see hidden abilties as a second ability on mons without a second ability. or replacing some boring abilities with the respective mons hidden ability (drought, drizzle, prankster,...)

cedar atlas
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I think the Kanto starters should get their second types in a fusion

tranquil leaf
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If a bunch of changes are made, an extra txt file could just come with the download, like in altered emerald

oblique haven
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Suggestion for here but not game...place people can put Pokemon memes without being judged be great ....

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That's all I'll be laying down if anyone needs me

tranquil ore
fossil dock
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i have a suggestion mantyke should evolve with water stone instead of happiness

languid matrix
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or maybe its original because remoraid is in the game

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but it would be hard to program

somber sun
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dankey that'd make it impossible to evolve in a randomizer though

languid matrix
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techniquelly no

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because you can shuffle

cedar atlas
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happiness is better

somber sun
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^

cedar atlas
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than both of those

languid matrix
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it does make sense

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i think there should be multiple ways to evolve some pokemon

cedar atlas
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mist stone

languid matrix
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like dusknoir can evolve at either lvl 50 or with a reaper cloth

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and mist stone

tranquil ore
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Why tho

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Doesnt make much sense

languid matrix
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🤷

astral portal
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can the thicc club please get fixed on marowak

lethal nova
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it does not benefit to the gameplay whatsoever

astral portal
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at least 100

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I don't want to sell my soul to this game

slow crescent
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Ryan > I don't remember the power plant that much but... isn't this gate the first one of many ? isn't it like a "tutorial" gate so you understand what you are looking for ?

jade sky
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You can get a dubios disc for free in Bills house in goldenrod City. If that wasn't removed with the 3rd patch

lethal nova
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That is the only gate. I have no problem with using an electric move to do something. The problem is that it's rng dependant weather you go on or stay

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I spent 20 minutes just to open a gate

rough gull
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Ryan, you're supposed to use Cell batteries to power up that gate. The electric moves thing is only meant as a last resort solution in case you sold all of your batteries or something.

lethal nova
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where do you get the batteries

rough gull
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You find them laying around all over the power plant.

full pasture
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on random? you dont

lethal nova
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my items are random

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well thanks anyway now I know for the future

cedar atlas
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@rough gull i have a strange problem

rough gull
cedar atlas
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i cannot enter the trainer house challenge

jade sky
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poor nurse joy, give her some company. chilling there alone 24/7 😡
(union cave pokecenter)

fleet sky
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aron line

tranquil ore
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There are probably not gonna get any more mons added tho

teal moon
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Maybe more fusions for the gible? Also can they be found when the wild encounters are randomized or no?

tranquil ore
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what do you mean more fusions for thr gible?

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and yes, when you randomized encounters you have the change to find one eventually

teal moon
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Gible line, forgot to type line in cuz of the auto correct

tranquil ore
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but what do you mean with more fusions for the gible line tho? I dont understand that

brazen swan
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The "script taking too long" crash when some people try to open their boxes has been linked to their real-life computer's ability to handle the game, with full boxes taking several seconds to open even for people with good computers. Could the size of each box be reduced? That might help.

ionic cipher
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No, since you can only compress Pokémon so far

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each box has to store Pokémon's data

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maybe instead allow the loading times to be longer

languid matrix
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i think there should be another channel

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which is the mainstream pokemon

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like ruby

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diamond

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black 2

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white

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red

cedar atlas
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hmm ye

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there are people that play randomizers and stuff

full pasture
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add pokemon tracker like gsc did

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thanks

fleet sky
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have the pokedex pokemon location work with randomizer mode. at least for the base pokemon

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but in a way so that if you're looking for squirtle, it'll show where squirtle and squirtle fusions can be found. etc

mild estuary
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I would like to suggest a clean and unified rule set for fusion. In viridian city the school told me how fusion works, but then that's not always how fusion works.

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This is my my Scizor/Machamp and going by the rules in the viridian school it should be bug/fighting

tranquil ore
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Wrong_type.png except it is actually not wrong

mild estuary
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It's just what I named it when I thought it was a bug.

jade sky
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the rule is the same, but the typing of the base mon was changed

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thats a difference

brazen swan
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it's only not wrong because it's an exception. he means that it shouldn't be an exception

tranquil ore
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Better suggestion: add that there are exceptions to the standard rule in the message at the school

mild estuary
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Steel and flying are in the same spot for scyther and scizor so bug should have been unchanged

jade sky
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just before this last update someone else made a suggestion just like yours with equally right or wrong (whatever you want it to be) arguments, which resulted in this exact change. in the end schrroms decides what to put in 🤷

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though, i agree that it's inconsistent. maybe an npc/object in the school should list all the type exceptions

unreal sky
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Has anyone pitched an idea for a fusion switch item?

brazen swan
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dna reversers exist

jade sky
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like the dna reverser?

unreal sky
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Ok. I haven't seen that item yet

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I was just tossing that idea out if anyone hasn't yet

brazen swan
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it is helpful that most of the type swaps (magnemite, omastar, and scizor) are where a fusion gets either metallic coloring or a literal shell. Dewgong's the only weird one

full pasture
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wym dewgong

jade sky
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ice/water instead of water/ice

full pasture
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huh

languid matrix
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how about change some evo things

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when i was playing a mainstream pokemon team i decided to have crobat

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and it was about 25 when it evolved and i caught it at 3

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which i dont get because now with one of the evo

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elekid is lvl 31 so maybe change the hapiness thing

jade sky
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hard to tell what exactly your suggestion is..
remove happiness as evolution method for elekid/magby. is that what you're saying?

languid matrix
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well i learnt aeasy way so nevermind

fleet sky
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gym leader rematches after you defeat the E4 and Champ

normal spear
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Can there be a Pokemon Infinite Fusion for Mac?

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because I have a Mac and IDK if you guys made it for Mac.

torpid summit
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That's impossible using RPG Maker
You can download a program called Wine to run it on mac, that's what I do

echo burrow
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Having pokemon with random typing order would be nice. It would fix up the whole which pokemon should have which type first issue. Maybe even a type switcher item like the ability capsule.

jade sky
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Also impossible for now and most likely forever, because Pokemon are pregenerated. You would add twice as many mons (not exactly but almost) and the engine can't handle more than the 90k combinations the game has now

echo burrow
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So the types can't be altered like natures, trainer info, caught location etc? Or is species of pokemon itself considered a data tag for each entity?

cedar atlas
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Each version of the fusion is considered a seperate mon with a entry in the code

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The entry has around 20 lines of info which contain its type abilities evolutions movepool etc.

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So thats more than 90k entries of around 20 lines of info

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The engine has trouble handling it as is

nova kernel
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werill emote plz? it sounds like we will

somber sun
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no

nova kernel
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aYES

real heath
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Premium Splicer, which lets you pick out the fusion and its stats separately?

tranquil ore
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Its stats?

tall shadow
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Its stats?

tranquil ore
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Haha wow, so funny dude

tall shadow
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pecking order

nova kernel
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randomize the magikarp gift

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when playing random

tall shadow
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both if the other magikarp gift is in the game

real heath
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Yeah.

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You know how you have 2/3(Base) + 1/3(Head) for some stats and 2/3(Head) + 1/3(Base) for others?

nova kernel
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oh

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there is the dna reverser

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so you can just use that

real heath
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Yeah, but you couldn't have the Attack be 2/3(Base) + 1/3(Head) and the Defense be 2/3(Head) + 1/3(Base).

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With the new splicer, you would be able to do that.

tranquil ore
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But being able to choose the stats is gonna be pretty close to impossible tho, as every fusion is in the pbs made by hand or something, so there are a looooot of lines in there

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Waay to many

cedar atlas
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ye choosing stats is not gonna happen

real heath
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Oh, right.

tranquil ore
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So if we could even make the game work with a bigger PBS, we could have more mons instead...which is waay better

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But still super unlikely

nova kernel
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is there not infinite pbs?

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or does it just take too long?

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NOW LETS NOT DROWN OUT THE MAGIKARP SUGGESTION

cedar atlas
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Mew

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that suggestion is worded badly

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you should have said randomize gift pokemon

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not specifically only the Magikarp

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wouldnt it be better if other gift mons were random too ?

nova kernel
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i thought they were since the johto starters were

cedar atlas
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nah Starters are starters

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all the other gift mons are not random

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like quest mons like the boot quest

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gift eggs

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etc.

nova kernel
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oh ok

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yeah randomize gifts

ebon egret
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It will never happen but i kinda want mac and or Linux support

slow crescent
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Yeah, not gonna happened for sure. The dev chose to use RPG Maker XP to make that game. And that software doesn't allow to make linux/mac build.
And I hightly doubt the Dev will try to re-create RPG Maker XP on linux just for that purpose.

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There is one solution-ish though

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you could run wine on your linux/mac and then try to run the .exe

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Wine is a software that try to run .exe files as smoothly as possible (it doesn't work on every .exe but I heard some people successfully used it to run infinit fusion)

torpid summit
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I use it to run IF

cedar atlas
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well using wine only has one problem that also applies to windows machines

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if your machine is not good enough

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the game will take too long to load

fleet sky
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just a little one. maybe change misty's overworld sprite to match her in battle sprite

mellow jewel
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lots of overworld sprites are different to the battle sprites which annoys me

fleet sky
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a lot of regular trainers are like that

real heath
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Probopass in the game?

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And Nosepass?

tranquil ore
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There are most likely not gonna be any more mons added now, unless somehow the whole pbs can be changed to a smaller size

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Which is highly unlikely as well

slow crescent
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@rough gull can you put a list of the pokemon that have their ability swap for fusion on the drive ? People are confuse on which one are they and that make it difficult for them to plan their fusion

snow anchor
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It would be much appreciated.

ionic cipher
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I want there to be like 2 more Pokémon added so list of fusions goes up to 100,000

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Bibarel

fleet sky
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better yet. scrap bidoof and other useless mons like delibird, smeargle and dunsparce for better ones

slow crescent
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bidoof isn't that useless. he have the "simple" ability I believe

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delibird is just trash though >.>

ionic cipher
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and Smeargle is good

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Bidoof just needs to evolve so it can be a good HM slave

astral portal
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Schrroms instead of swapping huge power on Azumarill nerf Huge Power

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instead of x2 attack make it x1.5

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so 100 bst won't turn into 200

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but will turn into 150

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since Azumarill is an atrocious body

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It'd nerf Azumarill without fully demolishing it

cedar atlas
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its not demolished tho

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its still usable because of Huge power

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if it has like 70 atk

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with Huge power

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thats more than Gyara

astral portal
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at that point you might as well use marowak

cedar atlas
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and ?

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this game is all about options

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its good that there is no one best mon

astral portal
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still mon

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Azumarill was my boy

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and now he's shit

snow anchor
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What was changed with Azumarill? I haven't progressed far enough in to catch one and see for myself.

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I would really appreciate a breakdown of what exactly was changed about abilities in 4.2.

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Poor me? I'm just trying to plan ahead dude. It's kind of hard to do that when you don't know what the new rules are.

cedar atlas
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Azumarill used to give Huge power as a head

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now it gives it as a body

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thus making it worse overall

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but its still usable

snow anchor
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Okay, that makes sense. So how exactly does ability inheritance work? All of the google drive docs seem to be out of date, stating it's only the first ability from either half.

jade sky
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only one error i see in that faq right now..
@brazen swan you mind changing "The Starters and their evolutions always use their primary element" in the fusion_faq (8) to "The KANTO Starters ..."
might confuse some people

slow crescent
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Oh common, don't swap back the huge power and definitely don't nerf it. I don't want to unfuse again my pokemon. it's a bit annoy to have to get the level back

slow crescent
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beside, it make sens that the "huge power" came from the muscle of the body

astral portal
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but it makes sense that thicc fat comes from the THICCNESS of the body

echo tapir
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If possible (don't know if it is), make the Elite 4 always have fully evolved pokemon even in randomizer

jade sky
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or make it possible to set a minimum BST for randomized trainers/gyms/e4
(maybe just for e4 and gyms, as this could be really hard in the early game)

real heath
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Your can already do that in the trainer settings.

jade sky
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what, no, you can't. you can only set the bst range

real heath
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Oh, I misread.

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Nevermind.

tranquil ore
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But why would you want a minimum base stat total?

real heath
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So that you don't get Magikarp E4.

jade sky
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i was expanding on waves idea

real heath
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Just make it so that you can set a min and max bst.

jade sky
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i'll rephrase it, as i think a pure min & max is setting is not good and also conflicts with the normal randomizer.
set gym and e4 randomizer bst minimum to the mon you are randomizing. so you get something of atleast same powerlevel + what you may have as bst range.

echo tapir
full pasture
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thatd be nice yes

boreal sluice
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Wait, is there support for mulitple saves within the one file?

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Because otherwise I'd remove the requirement for an existing save before playing a randomiser

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Because I don't want to overwrite my main with my randomiser

jade sky
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you can backup your main save (in this case 'copy' not 'cut') and then overwrite it with a randomizer

lavish venture
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Adding PCs to Hotels

zealous hamlet
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Removing the forms tab in the pokedex and re-adding the area tab.

lavish venture
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I would even be okay with a simpler version of the area tab like just the names of the areas, not even the whole marked map points gizzmo

lavish geyser
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having a selection of sprites for your character at the beginning of the game

fossil dock
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We should be able to edit the pokedex entries

nova kernel
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Nah

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No one really uses the dex that much anyways

jade sky
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isn't the dex impractical af to use anyways? it's faster for me to check the drive tbh

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and that's just for base mons. finding fusions in there is so hard

ebon egret
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Tbh I just think they want to say Their fusion can destroy worlds

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While it is a magikarp/feebas fusion

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Still has no use

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But could be a little dumb fun

jade sky
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well, that's not what i was assuming.
i don't dislike the idea, but before that happens the dex would need a navigation overhaul. which seems way too much work

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i personally would prefer up-tp-date enocunters & pokemon.txt on the google drive

ebon egret
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Ya fair

jade sky
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or does anyone actually know how to decently navigate that 95k monstrosity? the f5 menu doesnt really help that much

full pasture
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honestly? a search function

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with two bars

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one for the head/ single pokemon

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one for the body

jade sky
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sounds easy enough if you say it like that, but how hard is that to implement? only schrroms knows i guess
good idea though

full pasture
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i mean, link the dex numbers to the names somehow? then just do it like the sprites are? i dont code bute

rough gull
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A search function would be doable, but not easy. I'm taking a note of it, but don't expect it any time soon (especially since my computer is kaput right now). You can use the PageUp and PageDwn buttons to scroll a bit faster.
Also when you're viewing an entry, it skips to the next caught Pokemon when you go up or down. It's not much but it's something.

dusk bramble
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Hello I am French and i dont speack good english and i would like the game in french please

Sorry for my english

full pasture
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(thats actually quite nice english, good job)

dusk bramble
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(Thx but for understand all the game it's verry hard for me)

rough gull
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Le jeu est seulement disponible en anglais désolé. Mais la plupart du dialogue est basé sur la gen 1 donc si tu as déjà joué à pokemon rouge/bleu ou aux remakes tu devrais bien t'en tirer sans être trop perdu.

dusk bramble
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Et ya pas moyen que des personnes parlant français traduise le jeu après c'est qu'une proposition

rough gull
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Peut être un jour oui, mais il y a bcp de texte à traduire, c'est bcp de travail. Mais c'est sur que si on décide de traduire le jeu ça sera en français en premier.

dusk bramble
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Ok merci

real heath
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A fusion preview?

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So, before we fuse our Pokemon, it says "Is this what you want?" with the fused Pokemon and its stats.

tranquil ore
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It shows the silhouette of the fusion, and there is calculator to check the stats and typing

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Not sure if it is in the drive or not, but a simple search for calc in the discord should be enough to find it

ebon egret
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Ah ha I can speak minimal French but i understood that. I feel accomplished

echo tapir
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When entering the elite 4, give an option for difficulty level:

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Hard: current post one, 60s through up to 80s depending on the pokemons BST

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Elite: lvl 80+, 500+ BST for most pokemon at a minimum.

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Insane: LvL 100, 550 base BST minimum (maybe 600?)

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if possible 😛

rustic swallow
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It would be nice if we could choose nature before the fusion begins, sort of like the option to choose ability after it finishes, sort of in the question form of: Which is the dominant personality?

jade sky
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i mean, if it's just about nature, you could just select the mon with the more favorable nature first. that will copy nature, iv/ev etc over to the fusion. but maybe you want the nature from one and iv from the other so that's a good idea actually

rustic swallow
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I'm aware, it would just be a nice touch when you had to like use a super splicer one way for the fusion specifically, but then that would give it the wrong nature.

cedar atlas
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Use a regular splicer

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Thats what its for

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Or use super and then reverser

real heath
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Elygem in the game?

real heath
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Can the game remember if you were on Turbo last session, and automatically become Turbo on a new boot?

tranquil leaf
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Just pressing ctrl once isn't that much trouble

real heath
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I know, but I'm dumb and forget.

echo tapir
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Maybe I'm just bad at finding things, but an NPC at the Gym Rematch house that hints at where to find the next one (maybe the fresh water man from the gyms?)

rough gull
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Hmm.. Not a bad idea

echo tapir
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SO: There has been suggestions or talk of a BST minimum for trainers/pokemon at various points (Which I don't even know if its possible to set a minimum), but I don't really think that will help the randomizer because of lopsided fusions, where one side is low evolution and one is a full evolution so it still has good total stats but one half of the body completely screws the weaker stats (like a caterpie head on a Tyrannitar body would have great body stats, but die in one hit to a caterpie weakened HP). Is it possible to set the minimum BST for the parts of a fusion? (I.E. the parts can only be made up of 350+ bst as an example).

lavish venture
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Add a better auto save or at least give Healer NPCs an autosave

echo tapir
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If specific ability swapping for pokemon competitiveness is allowed... I vote Wooper/Quagsiure's ability be changed to Damp Head | Water Absorb Body. Water Absorb on a ground body would raise its desirability as a fusion, and we already have MUCH better water absorb water heads, such as Vaporeon, Lapras, Politoad...

full pasture
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yeah please

tranquil leaf
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Maybe add a backup system like rejuvenation/insurgence, they've saved me more than once

silent talon
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A game mode with increased difficulty
In my opinion gym leader and trainer have weak Pokémon fusion. There is more than enough Pokémon to build them strong team that can’t be easily sweep (btw same for E4)

Maybe adding some EVS / IVS ?

jade sky
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add an "event", that forces you to go to the pokemon school in viridian and talk to the teacher there. she should then say "you should let me teach you or you'll have no fucking clue about fusing pokemon" .. you know, something like that thisclown
force players to atleast read about "Fusing Pokemon", "Typings" and "Abilities"
maybe add a nice 4th wall hint to the #fusion-faq

cedar atlas
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I think the fusion should be divided into bulk and offense

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Body give 2/3 of of hp,def and sp def

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Head gives 2/3 of atk,sp atk and spe

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i mean body giving speed makes perfect sense

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why change it

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HP thing can go either way

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but since there are 6 stats

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it goes to head

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I mean

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you walk

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with your brain

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with your limbs

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your brain controls

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how you walk

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a genius that does not have legs

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does not walk fast

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Saurav

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Well

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no matter how good your brain is

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if your limbs cant move that fast

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means speed is still based on your body preformance

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then I guess you can vice versa what I suggested

jade sky
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Usain Hawkings 👏

cedar atlas
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Then I guess the head should give bulk

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and the body should give offense

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i mean head giving mental defenses and mental offence

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makes perfect sence

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problem is HP only

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since it would fit the body

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but we cant have one half give only 2 stats

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and the other 4

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How about

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wait nvm

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but

jade sky
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dont spam this channel pls

cedar atlas
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I think a new stat should be introduced

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ill say no more

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but that is probably asking for too much

jade sky
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#general and post your suggestion afterwards here after discussing

cedar atlas
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ok

cedar atlas
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How about

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a distribution selector

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A special kind of the fusor thingy(forgot the name)

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which lets you select the distribution

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for example

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if you are fusing lets say

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slaking with alakazam

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with the distribution selector

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you can choose to have the majority of hp, atk and def of slaking

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and the majority of spe,sp atk and sp def of alakazam

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probably will never be a thing but oh well

rough gull
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I was actually thinking of switching the Speed and HP stats to head and body respectively, but I figured it would be needlessly confusing. Do you guys think it would make more sense/make some mons more viable?

tranquil ore
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I can already imagine the outrage of blissey fusions being less useful

rough gull
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Or maybe put them both on body and find some other way to balance it

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yeah... Lol

tranquil ore
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And the speed for body makes sense tbh

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So I think the way it is now is good

cedar atlas
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Speed makes perfect sense for the body

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problem is HP

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as it is also something that would fit on the body

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but it will unbalance things

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since 4 stats vs 2 stats

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for the parts

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its possible to make something with that tho

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head gives 100% of its sp.atk and sp.def

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while the body keeps the current 2/3rds thing

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idk if it will be a good thing tho

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it will change things alot

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and mons like the chansey line or Wynaut line

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will become ...

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bad

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mostly

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well maybe not that bad

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would still be used as heads

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cuz even 1/3rd of their HP

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is a boost to whatever its fused with

jade sky
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as you said earlier, something will always be bad

cedar atlas
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overall there are so many ways to go about this

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either way i dont care if it changes

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it just means i can do another playthrough

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to try new stuff out

jade sky
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i think no stat distribution makes any sense "lore-wise"

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and there will always be bad mons

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so i would keep it like it is

cedar atlas
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ye

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i see no problem with the current stat distribution

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but i dont mind change

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it could be interesting

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@rough gull cant you make a seperate build

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to test it out

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copy paste the current game

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and just change that part

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without losing your progress on how it is now

jade sky
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yes, while you're at it make one build for every possible stat distribution, kthanks thisclown

cedar atlas
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lol

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thats rough

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ye i guess needless time wasting on side stuff

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while he can be working on important stuff

jade sky
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oh that was not a joke, btw :p

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i seriously want that lol

thorny temple
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wynaut just half of each stats, and then the order head/body would change things like IV and/or the ability? Or different kinds of DNA splicers giving each a different stat distribution?

cedar atlas
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well i do want something different too but ye probably not gonna happen

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i still want to see a Red/Blue split with Red being the current version and Blue having the mons that are not in this version

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and not having the mons that are in the current version

sharp radish
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the current stat distribution is ok

brazen swan
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I stand by my previous idea: every pokémon gives an equal amount of BST as body or head, but being a head gives more weight to a pokémon's highest stats and less to its lowest stats, and vice versa for body. e.g Golem (BST 485) gives half its BST (243) as a body or a head, but as a head some points from its SpAtk and Speed are moved to its Atk and Def. As a body, some of its Atk and Def is actually cut, and SpAtk and Speed are buffed accordingly

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Any way stats are cut, some pokémon will always be better as a head than a body, so I figured "Why not make them all better as heads?"

cedar atlas
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hmm thats interesting

brazen swan
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reduces the power gap between good fusions and bad fusions

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cons: makes your retard run less simple

jade sky
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so, how much would you add/cut from stats? did you come up with any numbers, yet?

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i'm having difficulties coming up with any numbers/%'s 🤔

brazen swan
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I've got all the numbers. short answer: As a head, a pokémon's highest two stats are increased by 30% of the average of its lowest two stats, which are reduced by that amount. As a body, a pokémon's lowest two stats are increased by 15% of the average of its highest two stats, which are reduced by that amount.

jade sky
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would you give the boost to more than 2 stats if there are more? like snorlax att and sp.def

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or kingdra i guess

brazen swan
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you use the highest 1 and lowest 1 if 2 doesn't work, and you use the highest 3 and lowest 3 if 1 doesn't work, and you just forget it if it's kingdra or mew

jade sky
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(arceus thisclown )

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ok, i see

brazen swan
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Donphan is a bugger because he doesn't have exactly one highest stat (atk and def 120) but he doesn't have exactly two lowest stats (Speed 50, SpAtk and SpDef 60) so he's one of the exceptions that uses highest 3/lowest 3

jade sky
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so i tested some combinations and i think it's a good idea. would love to see a build to test how it works out

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but i personally would make the body the dominant part

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because visually it's often the more dominant part, too

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and idk.. the body seems like the more 'important' part to me? not sure why

brazen swan
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I felt like with both the face and the color scheme, the head is more dominant. But it can go whichever way

jade sky
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and these exceptions because of same highest/lowest stats are a bit awkward. but no clean way to fix that i guess

jade sky
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is there maybe a way of splitting the %'s with multiple best/worse stats?

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like 30% for the single best stat and 15% for the second best stats for example

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but gets super complicated when you try applying it on the worse stats .. jeez

brazen swan
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Raikou's stats are 90 85 75 115 100 115. It has two best stats, and two worst stats, but its best stats are tied and its worst stats aren't

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there'd be more exception cases that way

jade sky
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yeah thats why i was saying its complicated when the best/worse stat distribution is not equal

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hmm. sucks

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oh wait, i wrote that weird
what i meant was for example snorlax:
160hp gets 30%, 110 att & sp.def get 15%
goal is keep the same %boost 60% in this case

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30init gets -30%, 60 sp.att & def get -15%

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this is a very convenient example though. there are probably awkward ones for this 'solution', too

slow crescent
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mm... are you sure that would make the game more difficult ? I mean, you'll end up with really offensive fusion that way (and also really bulky fusion) and bunch of in-between. the really offensive ones will be really advantageous since the boost will make them overpowerd. The bulky ones will be a little less avantageous but still very strong if you go for cheap dammage tactics.
everything in-between will struggle against the two extreme though

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So.. yeah, it will make a retard run really hard. But a regular run really easy

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I imagine an alakazam fusion would be almost as good as a mewtwo with that kind of boost

lavish venture
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I think there is a massive difficulty decrease after you get the ability to surf when beating 5th gym. This is probably because so many areas get accessable at the same time. It makes it so that I am fighting trainers with lvl ~33 pokemon in areas that have lvl ~37 wild pokemon with lvl ~50 pokemon on my team so I suggest buffing all trainers that are accessable after you obtain Surf and just making the mons themselves stronger tbh. I remember Sabrina being immensely hard with insane alakazam/gengar fusions when she came out, now she has that fusion but with the move Psycho Cut which isnt even a special attacking move. The more areas you make accessable simultaneously, the more trainers people face and the wider the power gap between the players pokemon and the NPC trainers become and thats why you get so op after fifth gym: First you have 2 routes leading to it filled with easily over 20 Trainers and afterwards you have Crimson City, Saffron City, the start of Johto, the Southern part of Kanto and all these secrets unlocked by having obtained Surf wich all just give you way too much exp.

jade sky
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yes, i agree. everything up to silph co is fine imo. after that it becomes slightly too easy. most noticeable is victory road an e4 if you use the exp all right after you get, up to that point.
there is a big difference though between players that do all the trainers and those who don't. so for who do you balance the game?

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and i think that issue with the bad moves is not something you can solve that easily. i think if you give a mon a fixed moveset to use it will carry over even to randomized mode (can be seen on various trainers), which is very awkward

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(not 100% sure on this one though)

echo tapir
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Can Last Resort be removed at least?

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the NPCs CANNOT use this

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if they have it

full pasture
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whats wrong with last resort?

echo tapir
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they will spam it until they faint

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and do nothing

full pasture
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oh yeah i saw that

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on an umbreon

acoustic wren
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same happens with Me First and Sleep Talk, they just fail

lavish venture
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I think a possible way of fixing this is letting the story take place in all the places in a set order, like giving the player the train pass only later, having to go to crimson city because sabrina left her gym because team rocket took over saffron city and thus no challengers were there so she wanted to go on vacaion and now you gotta tell her to go back or something and then you go to the south of kanto to continue with the badges

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dont get me wrong, I am all for open world

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But these lvls are absurd

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And I tried my hardest to skip as many trainers as possible too

echo tapir
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Option to turn trainer points for Cold. Hard. Cash.

glacial gate
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or even papery/plastic-y. room temp-warm. cash.

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cause, coins are usually lower amounts >_>

white nest
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Suggestion: add the changelog of 4.2.3 on the folder, or something, like i am always on the "4.2" after have installed the 4.2.3 and this is weird for me.
Sorry xD

white nest
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Suggestion 2: Custom sprite:
I am sad than for replace sprite with custom, you need to do that manually and take a long time, they are not on their "folder" number

echo tapir
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Thats not something Schrroms really controls

cedar atlas
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?

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just put your sprites in the Custom Battlers folder

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this is alot easier than what it was before this new update

white nest
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ohh

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I have not see it, sorry, always think than you need to put all of them on these folders of the Battler folder

echo tapir
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oh wow what

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I wasn't aware of the Custom Battlers folder LOL

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I manually replaced them in the folders myself @_@

cedar atlas
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have you not noticed

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when you start your game it asks you do you want the game to use custom sprites if avaliable

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it asks this just before it asks if you want to activate the auto-save

echo tapir
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Whens the last time I've really restarted aside from blitzing through for the nuzlocke runs

cedar atlas
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and it takes the sprites from the Custom Battlers folder

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now it does at least

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in older versions that folder did nothing

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so you had to place them in their respective folders

sharp radish
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hi

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Teleport can be a usefull coverage move in early game... But impossible to use it in the field

full pasture
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are

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are you dumb?

sharp radish
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no i'm not, wait

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it will be a shame to loose the escape mecanism

full pasture
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the fuck are you on about with removing teleport's field move

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you can us eit as fly

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go away >(

sharp radish
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but what if we have the choice to either strike or fly?

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stop talking before i finish my sentences moron

full pasture
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??

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explain

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and maybe you wont sound stupid

sharp radish
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this is exactly what i'm doing, i bet you rush in bed too

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you meet a wild poison pokemon

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you want to touch it with teleport, but you for the moment you cant because you will fly the battle

cedar atlas
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Stalker teleport used to work like fly in battle

sharp radish
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what if you click "teleport" and the game ask you "strike or fly?"

cedar atlas
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it was changed on purpose with this patch

sharp radish
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yes i know

cedar atlas
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if it was changed on purpose

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why do you think he will change it back ?

sharp radish
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but with wild pokemons it still make you fly the battle

cedar atlas
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just use confusion

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its better in battle either way

sharp radish
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not changing it back... I know my english isnt perfect but it seems clear...

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You CANT use it in wild battle now

cedar atlas
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i know

sharp radish
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this is my problem

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do you understand?

cedar atlas
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i said

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if it has been make like it is now

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why would Schrroms make it like it was before

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...

sharp radish
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not make it like it was before...god

brazen swan
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instead of putting it like it was before, he wants there to be an option when it's used

cedar atlas
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well impossible

brazen swan
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probably

sharp radish
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Thanks Chippy, you seems to have a brain

cedar atlas
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how would you make a option appear

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on a single move

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also

sharp radish
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i dont know, it's a suggestion, i never made a custom pokemon game myself

cedar atlas
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Teleport does attack

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trainer mons

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it only makes you run away from wild mons

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have you tried it ?

sharp radish
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yes

cedar atlas
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so whats your problem

brazen swan
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he wants there to be an option when it's used

sharp radish
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my problem is you are stupid

cedar atlas
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i see

brazen swan
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enough of this

cedar atlas
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name calling

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go ahead

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im done

sharp radish
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well if its impossible or difficult then it's ok as it is

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it was my suggestion

brazen swan
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there isn't really a precedent for an attack having multiple options. It would have to be a brand new part of the system, which would be difficult

sharp radish
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ok

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thanks

slow crescent
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well, it isn't actually impossible. I mean, it could just be something along the line of "if the pokemon know teleport, and that the pokemon is from the player party then run away work every time. If it is used from the moves, then it will attack"
But yeah, it would need some tweaks in the system because it would mean that it work differently for you and the wild pokemon

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So even if it's not impossible, I doubt it will be implemented (even though I do miss teleport being an offensive moves against wild pokemon when I am the one using it)

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(but it make sens for the opponent wild pokemon)

full pasture
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why use teleport against wilds though

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instead of literally anything else

slow crescent
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my kadabra / clefable fusion only knew that psychic moves at one point

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and I did flee the battle unintentionaly multiple time because of it

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because sometime, all you moves are bad against the type you are battleing except for that one psycic move you know

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(so for training it can be annoying)

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(but yeah. I guess you could re-battle trainers to avoid that)

echo tapir
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Perhaps a way to buy multiples at the same time? Example, not having to do this 59 times for 59 rare candies

astral portal
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swap bastiodon's types

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the head gives the metal look

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the body gives the rock look

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the types should fit that

cedar atlas
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more steel heads ?

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why

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there are plenty already

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Metagross, Scizor, Magnezone

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we need some steel body representation

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even Lucario gives Steel as head

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Bastiodon and Steelix are steel bodies rn

astral portal
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true

fleet sky
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Steel bodies represent

cedar atlas
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oh

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and Forretres

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but Steelix is also a Steel head

astral portal
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you're right

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lucario gives steel as body

cedar atlas
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oh its the body ?

astral portal
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lucario head is fighting

cedar atlas
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i could have sworn i killed a lucario fusion with a ground supereffective move

latent geode
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its second typing is steel

cedar atlas
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must be my imagination

astral portal
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yeah

echo tapir
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Maybe take Heal Pulse away from the AI, they like to heal my pokemon in 1v1 fights >.>

echo tapir
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Brock is the only Gym Rematch that spoils what type he will be in a randomizer, maybe either remove his spoiler, or add them to others?

cedar mountain
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Unsure what it would take, but it would be awesome if music looped instead of stopping and then restarting

knotty sonnet
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make the trainer house harder the movesets are auful and the fusions are awful please change it

cedar atlas
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Its random

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What do you expect

knotty sonnet
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something not random

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like maybe a random pokemon out of good fusions

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like i could make the sets if you dont feel like it i just hate being at 1020bst and fighting a gligar/jumpluff

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something like this
#-------------------
COOLTRAINER_M
Guy
3
DELICHAMP,50,CHOISESCARF,VITALTHROW,AERIALACE,ICEPUNCH,PRESENT,0,M,,,,20
SHEDCEUS,50,LIFEORB,SWORDSDANCE,EXTREMESPEED,SHADOWSNEAK,PUNISHMENT,0,M,,,,20
HO-KING,50,LEFTOVERS,SACREDFIRE,BODYSLAM,EARTHQUAKE,ROOST,0,M,,,,20

oblique haven
#

batman everything you type my mind always reads in Shaggys voice

knotty sonnet
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like thats how i talk man

brazen swan
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If randomness is something we want to preserve, I think a good way to do that is, for each normal species of pokémon, pick two good moves it would have. Each random fusion in the trainer house then has the two moves of each of its halves

knotty sonnet
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that would be good but like i dont want to be facing magikarp/charmander on 800bst

brazen swan
#

there used to be a (invisible) scaling minimum on the trainer house, where as you go higher, magikarp/charmanders stop showing up.

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I fought against a team of 4 Mew/Mewtwo fusions, then the next match crashed the game and locked my save

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went out in style. Since then, the minimum seems to have been removed, but I wouldn't object to putting it back in (maybe capping out at 450 as the max minimum)

knotty sonnet
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i think it should pick out of like 200 sets

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that way you arent getting trash

fleet sky
#

Can it be made so that you don't loose money if you loose a battle in the trainer house?

knotty sonnet
#

Is it possible to lose now?

fleet sky
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Not sure actually. It was possible in an older version and I haven't checked if it was seized since

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Sorry. Probably should have checked before asking

cedar atlas
#

make the relearner at pokemon League teach the mons some extra moves like egg-moves or moves from previous evolutions for example

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since he is more expensive to use

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he should have some extra functionality

jade sky
#

add an easier way to finish the lighthouse quest in randomized than unrandomizing. maybe static encounters that can't be randomized on route 9 in similar fashion to the growlithe and shellder quests.

brazen swan
#

purchasable voltorb at the game corner? fits thematically with voltorb flip.

echo tapir
#

I have an... odd/random question.

How difficult/time consuming would it be to make a kind of... world seed? Like in minecraft it alters how the world is shaped and that kind of thing. In this, it could alter what kind of pokemon can show up.

You could have Normal Mode, Randomizer Mode, Seed Mode.

You could have a Psychic Seed, which only spawns psychic pokemon and fusions. Same with dark, steel, water, ect...

Is that something people would care for?

jade sky
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the exp all nerf is a bit awkward, i'll post some numbers of the same mon

Base 621
Lucky Egg 931

Exp.all base per mon 124 (multiply this by team members)

6 Mons in party
Exp.all 744
Egg + Exp.all 806
Exp.all + Exp.Share 434
5 Mons in party
Exp.all 620
Egg + Exp.all 682
Exp.all + Exp.Share 372

that means you need atleast 5 mons in your party for the exp all to be as efficient as without it. but the exp.all gets crushed by the lucky egg (without exp.all). so exp.all is not useless but inferior to just using the lucky egg.
i mean, it still does what it's supposed to do, which is leveling everything at the same pace but at the time you get the exp all, you are preparing for silph.co so it's better to level 3-4 mons, which means you would be better off turning off the exp.all and use the lucky egg instead. or you grind of course, but i don't know how the game is supposed to be balanced.

idk really what my suggestion here is, i'm fine with it either way. just pointing out that the exp.all is a bit awkward to use now.
this really depends on how someone plays the game and how the game is supposed to be balanced.
does a player beat all the trainers or not, do they have 3-4 mons or a full team? are you supposed to grind levels or is the goal to balance the game to a point where you don't need to grind?
i don't really know, so i'll leave it at that

EDIT: updated with exp.share numbers, oof

cedar atlas
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exp.all is very bad running along side the share

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did you try it without the share ?

jade sky
#

yeah, all the other numbers that dont say exp.share behind them

cedar atlas
#

i see

slow crescent
#

Well, I am not the dev so I am guessing but Wave, from the understanding I have on the pokemon essential stuff. It would probably not be very "difficult" to restrict pokemon to a specific typing. (the code is already there to do such a think mostly. I am pretty sure you can call the randomize fonction with a list of pokemon to exclude. So you could exclude all the non psychic pokemon without having to recode the all random.)
But it will still be random using this function (so, two person using the same "seed" won't have the same result. just the same pool. So it wouldn't be a real seed)
Making a real seed system though would require to re-code an entire random function that would use this seed. I don't know ruby enough to know how easy or hard that would be (I know in some language the default random that give you a random number work like that. not sure if it the same in ruby. I would imagine that there is such a function ).
So from my understanding, it would take few full days of work to think about and actually implement such a thing. So, probably more like weeks for someone that develop the game as a side project for fun.
I would think so anyway (since it's designing an all new feature instead of just fixing one that is already here). Also I am not sure when the random function are called for the trainer so depending on when it is call (if it's not pre-dermine and actually is call when you talk to the trainer) two player that talk to two different trainer in the opposite order might have a different result.
The more I think of it the more it sound like a hard task to do to. (to have a full exact game at list. partially random is probably easier by a all lot)

cedar atlas
#

Hello,

The French community is also large for Pokemon.
And I would like to know if there was the possibility of translating the game into these languages.
I could also help if necessary.

Thank you

full pasture
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schrroms speaks french i thinkk, he probsbly has a french copy

slow crescent
#

He is canadian and I don't think he took the time to translate the all game in french (even though he could have)

cedar atlas
#

Well, thank you, that's why I can offer my help if I have to.

silent talon
#

Can help too if needed

silent talon
#

Is it possible to make a google form or a doc or something else, in order to allow people to make suggestion on gym leader / elite 4 teams

I’ve finished the game, and most of the time, their team where not so good / you can sweep through with only one move. Because there are so much Pokémon in the game, players should be able to make suggestions of very good mons they have experiment their own way

If you don’t want to change much gym leader team, maybe try an option that can activate a improved difficulty mode for them with players made team

cedar atlas
#

hmm

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thats a pretty good idea

slow crescent
#

Indeed. I don't know if it is easy to do or not but if it is, having moves based on our team could be a nice touch (in high difficulty). Like if you go in with a wonder guard pokemon, you want the opponent to have at least one pokemon that can counter it.

echo tapir
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If there was an Elite Mode where we could create teams for Elite 4/Gym Leader Rematches, I'd die happy.

I'd probably spend more time designing teams for me/others to fight against than actually training my own >.>

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Maybe as a text file the game could read, or as a form we could submit to Schrroms for approval/addition that are periodically added, if he's okay with either idea

#

Though how the game would choose those fights, idk. Maybe it shuffles between them per round. Or we can only have one designed team up at a time.

slow crescent
#

increase the amount of metal powder on ditto's. Seriously, I spend at least an hour now to get it and it still not enough (I found 9 quick powder though)

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Ah. I finally got it. So it took me a bit more than an hour to get it. It seem a bit long for a side quest >.>

tranquil leaf
#

Wack has the ss anne where people who reached the hall of fame's teams are added right?

#

Maybe something like that could be added

fleet sky
#

Like fighting other players teams?

jade sky
#

everyone gets their own npc trainer with a team of 6 👌

tranquil leaf
#

'Hi, I'm MrDeLuux. Can you beat the team I finished the game with?' sends out unown/parasectnothing else, that's it

astral portal
#

lol

fleet sky
#

Would be interesting but everyone would need to send Schromms their team which would be a hassle (sorry don't know how to spell Schromms name)

#

And would it be only for regular playthroughs or randomised?

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Cause teams from a randomised run could be unfair

tranquil leaf
#

Any pokemon is technically obtainable in the game

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If that's unlocked after the 'super elite 4' there shouldn't be any "illegal" pokemon

fleet sky
#

If that's the case than the only limit would be duplicated legendaries which shouldn't be a problem

sleek spruce
#

Purchasable character clothing and hairstyles would be neat.

slow crescent
#

Would it be possible to build a conditional guardrail in the pc related code so people can't have more than 2 row of pokemon in each box ? Many people have the issue to not be able to open the pc when a box is too people (or so it seem. They don't have the issue anymore when someone else move their pokemons in other boxes.). It's unclear why one have this issue and other don't though

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Oh. I just saw the annoucment patch

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My suggestion is now irrelevent

fleet sky
mellow jewel
#

but then lots of things would have to be changed because zubat learns leech life early

echo tapir
#

For us randomizer fanatics, is it possible to make any wild-legendary fusion encounters play that awesome legendary music? Or would it be impossible to add in that kinda check for wild encounters?

echo tapir
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Suggest that Absol's Super Luck be as a body ability rather than a head

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Absol's stats lean much more as a body than a head, and pressure is a meh ability

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Honchkrow as the one source of Super Luck head, Absol as the one source of Super Luck body, because why would anyone choose an Absol head for super luck when there is Honchrow?

cedar atlas
#

Hey idk if this was suggested

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but

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Gen 2 Betas?

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Think of the Fusions

tranquil ore
#

Nah, would only take up space that we could use for other mons from gen 4 or 5

cedar atlas
#

aww

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That would be dope tho

#

maybe at least like

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the fire and water starters

#

the unused babies

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for special fusions

#

impossible

#

no sprites for them

fleet sky
#

Some have just made them fusions. So Gorochu (beta raichu) is a raichu/raichu fusion

echo tapir
#

TBH, I know the spriters would kill us all for screwing with their numbering, but I'd be all for removing baby pokemon and replacing them with more pokemon from other generations.

unreal sky
#

^

#

Baby pokemon are pretty pointless

echo tapir
#

or maybe just replace the exact entry of the pokedexes (baby pokemon) with their replacement, so its only those potential custom sprites that are messed with

somber sun
#

oof thatd kinda break alot of baby sprites

echo tapir
#

thats why I said the spriters would kill us all @_@

somber sun
#

i'd prefer for the custom sprites to work lol

full pasture
#

:(

#

i will ngery at you

sour idol
#

who else is slightly annoyed that the Hoenn starters (maybe even jhoto, haven't tested those) don't evolve with your rival, but rather jsut stay the normal kanto ones after your battle in the lab

echo tapir
#

How many are there again? Cleefa, Happiny, Pichi, Cleefa, what else?

unreal sky
#

Munchlax

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Mantyke

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Mime Jr

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Mag, Ele and Smooch

echo tapir
#

10 slots man

unreal sky
#

Igglybuff

echo tapir
#

10 slots that could become

#

11

#

slots that could become useful potential fusions!

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and if Shcrroms did what he did with Wailord/slaking and only brought in the final evo

unreal sky
#

You said Cleffa twice

echo tapir
#

10*

unreal sky
#

Make em all waifumon :^)

echo tapir
#

but yeah, 10 more potential pokemon, either a couple of lines, or 10 individual final evolutions, and BAM

unreal sky
#

Forgot Azurill

echo tapir
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so then 11 😄

unreal sky
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Togepi, Tyrogue, Wynaut

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Chingling Bonsly

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Huh... Riolu is one too

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And budew

cedar yacht
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dont touch riolu 😠

echo tapir
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Riolu isnt even in this I thought

somber sun
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domt touchn magboy

unreal sky
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I was just reading off the pedia

cedar atlas
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Riolu is not in the game

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so ye

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even if Schrroms wanted to he cant touch it

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lol

tranquil ore
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But yeah, I do agree that most baby mons are useless

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I might say keep mantyke, as it doesnt feel like it a baby mon...maybe tyrogue

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But the rest can go

slow crescent
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mmm... I don't know, in a way, the fact that they are baby make it so we can have them early (daycare cerulean). The later form are medium to late game

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(in a regular game anyway)

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So even if they arn't very good themselves, they serve a purpose

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(which is give us access to potially very good pokemon early on)

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Not all babies are necessary though (cleffa and baby jigglypuff are pretty useless since we already have acces to the parents route 3. snorlax baby is useless as well since we get snorlax anyway)

sleek spruce
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I like Mantyke...
The other 9 I’d be fine with seeing away with though. Then we could get the sinnoh starters!

upbeat lily
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This sprite seems very off to be for how these two combined. Maybe I didn't update 4.2 correctly?

cedar atlas
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the sprite has nothing to do with the update

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thats how it looks

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the generator is at fault

real heath
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Can we get Floette and Eternal Flower Floette in the game?

brazen swan
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somebody would have to draw 630 sprites to add either of those, or 1262 sprites for both. I don't think it's happening.

slow crescent
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Or make 2 sprite and code a fusion maker like japeal to generate the others. Not sure how they did it though. So it is as unlikely than spriting them all

tranquil leaf
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I think one of the two generator sites actually had a tutorial on how to make a generator like it

slow crescent
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really ? if you got a link to that I am interested

tranquil leaf
slow crescent
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Nice !

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thanks

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Lot of grounds works to do it I see. So it's ever more unlikely that someone go through this process again for the 800-ish pokemon x)

echo tapir
wet rivet
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Just take it out and rename it

echo tapir
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I am, but the option would be nice to do it in the box

cedar atlas
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Add Play Rough to Azumarill's levelup movepool like in the newer games

astral portal
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yes pleace

echo tapir
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Can we add draining kiss to the raltz line then?

astral portal
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yes please

cedar atlas
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just add all the Fairy moves that Fairy type mons can normally learn in newer games in their movepool

astral portal
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yeah

cedar atlas
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is it possible for you to create additional TM's for moves (without placing them anywhere on the Map) so that when we use the TM randomizer option we can get some unexpected TM's

tranquil ore
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I think that might be a thing already

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Cause I got a quiver dance tm once

cedar atlas
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i got Spore

tranquil ore
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And I dont think it is a tm

cedar atlas
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but idk if its a actually a thing

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cuz for the most part

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i get normal TM's

jade sky
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it goes up to tm 107/8 i think (edit: 106)
they are all placed somewhere, too iirc

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some more for the random tm thing would be really cool,i agree

echo tapir
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I know it would probably be alota work, but, have Dream Moves/Abilities been considered in some way as an eventual sideproject addition?

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maybe as a tutor or a special reward for something (battle tower/high ranking trainer house run?)

cedar atlas
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i did suggest the Move tutor on Victory road to teach more moves

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at one point

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since he is more expensive to use

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like 5k per move

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while the one in Vermillion is 1k per move

cedar atlas
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yes I never use the one on victory road

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paying 5 times the price is not worth the flying route to vermillion

jade sky
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would be sweet if the move relearner there could access egg moves instead of lvl up moves

echo tapir
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If we catch something in a boost ball, could it get a special icon like a shiny/pokerus gives for tracking purposes on the summary page? Or is that not possible?

tall island
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i would love if there was a volume control option

jade sky
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can't you just adjust the volume in windows? volume mixer or whatever it's called. this thing.

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and you can turn music and soundeffects individually on/off in the f1 menu ingame

sleek spruce
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Yeah that’s what I do

kind harbor
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I would like to make a suggestion in the quality of life area. I would like to see a fullscreen and fullscreen borderless option in the window size options, I know pokemon emyrean and solar light/lunar dark have at least the fullscreen (the borderless fullscreen just makes the game screen fill the fullscreen res instead of being the same size while blacking the rest of the screen) This would be great for people like myself who play games like this on a tv computer

split warren
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Would be nice to have a Rectangle Custom Resolution

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The game can stay square

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But to fill out the black sized of the resolution you could put the current pokemons information on the sides

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or a clock

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or whatever

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this is an example

halcyon beacon
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Yes it could be nice

kind harbor
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That /WOULD/ be amazing, but outside of the scope of my suggestion. Mine was a more or less settings change, that is a full ui change. But I support that as well Lol

split warren
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the UI could be tweaked as well

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but i prefer the square screen

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it has more nostalgia and fits better

kind harbor
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right, I also have a 4:3 based system that I am currently building a small pc for that I intend on having this and a few other poke fan games running on

split warren
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Can somebody make this possible as a meme

mellow jewel
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a

somber sun
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i mean, nothing is stopping you from replacing dodrios sprite, but im not sure it belongs here

mellow jewel
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dodrio/dodrio

split warren
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Dotreeo

split warren
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can you decrease the wild fusion pokemon spawnrate

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Im playing on randomized and i can't find a normal pokemon after 3 gyms

cedar atlas
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use fusion repel

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thats its only purpose

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lol

split warren
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but its expensive

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k fine

split warren
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Lavender Town's Music is kinda dissapointing

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the breathing is anoying

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and the pace is too fast

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could you guys put a slow pace music on laventertown

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to make it more Spooky

cedar atlas
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it is kind of a spoil so....
||Make the bird fusion available after a quest, maybe it will never happen but well the fusion sprite was so cool||

somber sun
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||maybe debuff the stats a lil' if given to the player, seems hard to beat||

cedar atlas
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^

halcyon beacon
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Suggestion : randomizer types and abilities.

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And moves

split warren
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I would appreciate more double battle possibilities

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it doesn't have to be more twins or couples

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just a choice for the player to fight solo or double

halcyon beacon
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Move ui like this ? to appreciate the view.

somber sun
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what's wrong with that bit of the sprite behind the name

halcyon beacon
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it's just a photoshop

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usually it the name + hp + pokeballs was down of the pkmn

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like this

split warren
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TM28 DIG could use some better animation's

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at least remove the pokemon when he/she/it burrows

fleet reef
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How about a new sound effect for quad effective moves

split warren
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^

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good idea

split warren
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Suggestion: Arceus will be the only Pokemon that can Fusion with itself multiple times

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the plate items will get consumed by adding him a type

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So the GOD of pokemon deserves to be called a GOD with all the types

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(weak to rock and fairy though)

tired pewter
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But, an all typed pokemon would be weak only to Rock right?

languid matrix
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Look at the insurgence wiki and type in omnitype

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Then It shows what weakness it has

tired pewter
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ok cool then

fallow aspen
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GO TO MAKE A .GBA VERSION FOR MOBILE

tranquil ore
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That's never gonna happen if you say it like that...be nice, dont be a douche

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Also I dont think it is even possible

split warren
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Its 100% not possible

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But a DS rom could be possible

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but it would look stupid with only 1 screen usage

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so rather then the game being a rom

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it could be a self build mobile game

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or a ps2 hacked rom for ps2 emulators

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but not Gba, forget about it

slow crescent
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Well, the main issue here is that the game isn't a hackrom but build with RPG Maker Xp (a soft that doesn't build for mobile). So even DS and ps2 are out of the question x)

jade sky
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a way to start a new game in debug, if you've unlocked it. if that is even possible.

gusty basalt
jade sky
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that script probably doesnt work on rpg maker xp

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schrroms definitely knows about not having fullscreen, so if it isnt implemented it's probably not possible for now i guess?

gusty basalt
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Is so sad in little windows ^^

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I don't know what is the software is the script, but is RGSS, i have think is same :/

slow crescent
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Wether it work on the XP version or not, there is also the question about if it work with pokemon essential or not.

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But yeah, this script wasn't designed for the XP version (it shows on the header)

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but yeah, in this case , it doesn't stretch the window at all. it just change the window size (like your c# program Phylonia)

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and the F6 thing just move the visible part

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without changing it size

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Best case scenario (having the in game option set to "large" + the f5 full screen)

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so... it's not bigger than regular large

gusty basalt
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is sad 😢

halcyon beacon
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Suggestion : it could be nice to do a sprite contest to create a character in the game that would have a nice little role (or not). He could appear in the game with the team of the most beautiful sprites created.

tranquil ore
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Wouldn't mind another Sprite contest tbh

somber sun
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i shoulda won the last one smh

jade sky
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not sure if i just read your suggestion wrong, but the sprite contest should be about creating sprites for fusions not a character in my opinion

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seems more fitting tbh

cedar atlas
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last sprite contest was for the Zapmolticuno

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well i should say 1st and last

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it was the 1st contest

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and no other contest was made since it

halcyon beacon
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@jade sky for a versus trainer

slow crescent
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Indeed. But if it's for a fusion it should be a special fusion Stanley. Because regular fusion are already being made by peoples in spritework x).
A character could be cool but where would he fit on the story 🤔 ? I mean, without a back stpry it's kind of hard to design the guy

halcyon beacon
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it could be with hidden ability

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why not ?

jade sky
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maybe a legendary dog 3-way fusion.. reminds me of something similar though :p
and they kind of have a story already

slow crescent
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3 way fusion is old news. A new type of experimental fusion made by the scientist that made mewtwo coold be cool. One that break the head/body code (a unique one)

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and that would be to the spriter to decide which pokemon and how they are fuse (since it's would be unique)

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But hey, that's just my take on this suggestion >.>

round night
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Patch the water race plz

jade sky
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you tried without boost yet? should be easy enough to not make any mistakes on normal game speed

cedar atlas
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i tried very difficult

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15 tries, no victory x)

round night
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yep i tried withou its limit imposible

cedar atlas
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without speedboosted

jade sky
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yeah, i agree, i dont think i've ever done it first try because i get careless
but if you concentrate and use normal gamespeed its relatively easy

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its not impossible dude :p

cedar atlas
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too difficult for a simple surf item x)

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i prefer the scisers for cut x)

round night
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the guys go in the stone and me cant

jade sky
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just take the shortest route and dont make any mistakes. thats all there is to it

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he is slower than you first round

round night
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i stuck every time in the same rock

slow crescent
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It's far from impossible

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in my current game, I beat him second try

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(no speed boost)

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The first playthrough I made though, I tried many many time

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In other word, don't blame the game. Blame your skills.Just get good (as we all had to)

wild oriole
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@rough gull Hello, is it possible to give you some money through paypal ? I love your game and I would be really happy to give a bit of money to thank you for your work

rough gull
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Unfortunately, making a fangame isn't technically legal, so I cannot accept any donations (as much as I would like to).
If you want to help out, the best way to do so is by sharing the game with your friends, etc. :)

dusky mountain
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create a icon-gallery channel to share pkmn icons

brazen swan
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you can just use the sprite gallery

past yarrow
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put a section in the menu to see the quest

severe badger
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Have a wonder trade for non fusion pokemon and fusion pokemon

split warren
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Suggestion: When you make the game widescreen, keep the main game square shaped and put the stats of the party on the sides to full the black screen

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you can add a small map or something if it doesn't fill it quite

somber sun
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I didn't even know you could make it fullscreen

tranquil ore
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Is that even possible to do?

somber sun
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i doubt it's possible with essentials tbh

split warren
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if its possible

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This would be great, thou

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because when you would switch pokemon's from the pc

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you could just select the part pokemon and switch them in between

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just like gen 6 storage system

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instead of withdraw and deposit

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combine them together

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for a quick switch

lunar totem
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Not really anywhere else to say this so... Scizor's fused type is backwards, he's bug as a body and steel as a head

tranquil leaf
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That's not a bug, it's a featurethisclown

jade sky
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i added a table for altered typings in the wiki, but it looks broken and i dunno how to fix it. anyone wanna try?
nvm

lunar totem
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It sucks though because the fusion looks cooler and has better stats when Scizor is the body

lunar totem
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FUCKING NERF ZAPMOLTICUNO

dusky mountain
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or just tell us what type is he , same for the tri-attack always "super efficient" , because fly + fire + ice + thunder is supposed to be super super super weak against rock , but no . I just found water to affect him ...

lunar totem
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I used toxic

dusky mountain
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same 😄

lunar totem
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But it took me fucking three days to figure that out

dusky mountain
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i go through with toxic + full heals

lunar totem
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That would work if Zapmolticuno didnt ohko my entire team

tranquil leaf
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I think his tri attack is just super effective vs anything

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So dual type mons are x4 weak to it

lunar totem
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which is all of mine

dusky mountain
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99% of fusion are dual type :3

slow crescent
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You are just bad. (I didn't test rock but It should be weak to it). And it is definitely weak to water. It has a bunch of defense and spe def and most of all as much HP than blissey (so even when you deal super effective damage it doesn't seem that much) but he is slow as hell.
Sure, if you do a nuzelock without knowing you might have some issue with it. But a regular player will just have few pokemon ko and eventually beat it. it's not that hard. I enter the match without knowing and lost like 3 pokemon before I ko it

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It doesn't need a nerf in my opinion

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It was a good boss fight

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Also, I just brute forced my victory (no toxic or whatever) so it is possible to kill it without tricks. But tricks are a valid strategy as well. I can think of many ways to kill it

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(and I am not even good at the game)

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I didn't test this but my supposition is that the tri attack is strong against "flying, water, ground, grass, dragon, bug, steel, ice" (some of wich x4, some x2). but not against the rest (so 8 type out of 18)
Because if it's a elec/ice/fire move then it would make sens it is strong against all of those

mellow jewel
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level 1 rattata with endeavor focus sash quick attack to beat it

slow crescent
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No need for focus sach. fuse with a sturdy pokemon

mellow jewel
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ye and that

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thats better

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and easier

tranquil leaf
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Yeah, I don't think it has to be nerfed

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The guy's a problem when you're nuzlockeing, but the game isn't and shouldn't be designed around that

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I think the idea behind the boss being strong but slow is that all your party members should be able to get at least one hit in, and then just fainting, which is kinda the best way for an actual boss battle in pokemon imo

cedar atlas
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or you can Brick its AI with light screen and slaughter it

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lol

unreal sky
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Has anyone tossed in the idea of hidden new moves for certain fusions?

echo tapir
astral portal
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yeah thatd be cool

dusky mountain
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Is it possible , if we have 2 different sprites of a single fusion , to met both randomly ? It looks like fusions arnt so reliable and stable

somber sun
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maybe if it was based on gender but i doubt it

tranquil leaf
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The amount of current sprites is already a problem, doubling that would just make it worse, if I understand correctly

slow crescent
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It would be possible to code it I am pretty sure. But yeah, it's unlikely that Schrrom put it even though he took away shinies and back sprite

jade sky
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what do you mean with "reliable and stable"?

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ok i misread your suggestion, but i still dont know what ^that means

dusky mountain
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Like if fusions were always diffenrent cause this isnt a perfect science, u know ? But sure I understand why it's too complicated to add this .

jade sky
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(pretty sure that was suggested already but i'll say it again cause it's kind of triggering me :p)
adding the everstone properties to the eviolite

uncut sail
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The option to toggle whether traded Pokémon can be unfused or not could be nice for those that want an easier time. Just a random thought and not super necessary tho

nova kernel
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ability to reshuffle trainers in viridian

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literallhy cant beat rival

nova kernel
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Ability to lock levels so you can fuse a little bit easier

brazen swan
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^alternately, easier/earlier access to Ragecandybars to manually lower pokémons' levels. (I forget where you can find those currently)

lunar totem
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Saffron city pokemon center during rocket takeover

cedar atlas
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Just fuse and unfuse

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It will equalize the levels of both mons

tranquil ore
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Give the fairy mons (especially marill and azumarill) play rough in their level up movepool

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Same goes for drain kiss

timber agate
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I know it has already been asked but I think that would be nice if the quests were displayed in the menu

astral portal
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Make Aqua Tail a TM

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if you could add power gem if it isn't already there

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Make Ancient Power a TM

jade sky
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there is a tutor for it on cinnabar i think

astral portal
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Oh yeah cool

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@brazen swan you should make a "Mad Scientist" role for the people who theorycraft fusions a lot like Stanley and Wavez

somber sun
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give it to ruch and (i think) sombrero too

astral portal
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nah not sombrero

slow crescent
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I decline that role

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I am not a role seeking kind of guy

astral portal
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you got the spriter role

slow crescent
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And I never asked for it

astral portal
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yeah

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you're not asking for the mad scientist role too

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and you're gonna get it 😃

placid wren
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Can I make server suggestions here, or is it strictly for the game?

somber sun
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i think you could, depends on the suggestion probably

placid wren
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I'm still debating if the channel is even a good idea, but some sort of channel dedicated to writing pokedex entries for fusions would be pretty cool

somber sun
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idk if that's possible, and if so, it'd probably take up a tonne of file size tbh, im pretty sure the dexes are generated rather than pre-made

placid wren
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I was talking about the discord, not the game itself

somber sun
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ohhhhhh

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maybe, not sure how practical it'd be

placid wren
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Maybe it could be added onto #sprite-gallery , but that's probably not the best idea

somber sun
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probably not in gallery

cedar atlas
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Nothing wrong with a channel for dex entries

somber sun
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🤷

jade sky
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Super potions in the poke-mart after 2 badges (down from 3)
Hyper potions after 4 badges (up from 3)

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I think this makes it more consistent and rewards people that explore
You can get 50 hp water before the second badge (Mt. Moon) and 80hp lemonade before Sewers/Erika/4th badge.

cedar atlas
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I always stack up on fresh water so i never noticed super potions are after Surge

wary spade
somber sun
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pls

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<3

fickle scroll
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please

split warren
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yes

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and name it

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

fleet reef
jade sky
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So after seeing a picture of a bug where 2 fused pokemon were fused together (and crashing the game), i was wondering if you could make a separate version of the game that actually allows doing that.
I know thats kind of ridiculous and they wouldnt have any sprites, but for some reason i want that :p

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Technically you can just input the whole pokedex data into your algorithm and it'll poop out the 9,9 Billion pokemon, right..? Right?! thisclown

brazen swan
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Eventually

jade sky
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^ new update confirmed by mod allthethings

brazen swan
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I mean Eventually your algorithm will poop out a trillion pokémon

placid wren
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This may sound stupid, but it'd be cool if Missingno was in the game

near forge
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Fuse a Pokèmon with a Missingno to create a glitch that completely breaks the game

jade sky
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Upload the newest encounter.txt reeeee AAAAAAA

south fossil
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:orb: emote???

timber agate
south fossil
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yeah, but like another one tho

somber sun
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y

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we already have perfect ball

south fossil
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more orbs

somber sun
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ehhh

somber sun
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🤷

past escarp
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(will be too compacted tho)

jade sky
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Maybe just the upper part

green lion
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Will multiplayer battle be added in the future? Would help alot with adding more playtime to the game 🤔

past escarp
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but who's gonna pay for the servers

jade sky
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And who pays the lawyer to protect schrroms from Nintendo

past escarp
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also yes

tranquil leaf
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Schromms can just play Phoenix Wright and represent himself in court smh

jade sky
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^ can someone photoshop that