custom-outfits-discussion

[outer basin]

Judging by your profile, you speak French. If you're having a hard time understanding, the people in #français can help explain things to you.

[halcyon grove]

I think they may have been hacked. They posted this in a bunch of channels and got automodded for one of the bot spam messages

[outer basin]

I tried using discord to see what the russian text said, and google translate gave it as just domain

Kind of a weird thing to spam

[outer basin]

I just realized that I said 'I tried using discord' instead of 'I tried using google translate'

Given how today has gone as well, I am not filled with confidence as to my mental fortitude today

[halcyon grove]

I noticed that but didn't wanna say anything

[spiral dock]

why does it take so long to get approved

or disapproved

[twin oyster]

cause its only frog and paya going trough outfits but their main concern is in developing hoen

[lone yoke]

I think we should force them to drop everything immediately every time

if they don't make a decision for any given piece of apparel within one hour, a pokemon gets deleted

[outer basin]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1437939266901508188

[hollow vale]

malixre is correct; i believe they may or may not be getting some more people for QA/help on this at some point but Hoenn is priority

I think they take a look at cc before they update the game, so keep checking back every time there's an update to PIF

[copper rampart]

where are the outfits in the files

nvm

[copper rampart]

anyways fellas i dont think we have nearly enough hats even after what three made so im gonna brainstorm

[hollow vale]

we can always use more hats 🙂‍↕️

[outer basin]

You could try asking people in #playthrough-talk what kind of hats they wish there were

I noticed that the duskull mask is very popular, especially in combination with a black suit

Maybe we need more edgy options

[keen field]

You mean more sonic wigs?

Gotcha

[next cosmos]

Oh that reminds me! I was finishing up a really spiky hair style

[outer basin]

I submitted another 14 hats

[outer basin]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1441261881896472697

[frozen lark]

Surprised an Ugly Sweater Competition hasn’t happened yet.

[sour juniper]

Ohh that's a fun idea!

[latent hazel]

i was about to say "we'd have too many sweater sprites in game" and then remembered people barely join outfit contests lol

[hollow vale]

I would love to see this!

[snow escarp]

#1441829407756128410

I remember there was talk of a tool to preview, is it available? 👀
-# otherwise I'll have to dust out the game later

[halcyon grove]

#custom-outfits-discussion message this one?

[snow escarp]

that works thanks

btw I think a small tutorial for using it would be nice for ppl who don't know coding with python

well coding, just changing a constant and installing python and the libs

[halcyon grove]

Paya did mention that when she originally posted it, I was just too lazy to find it

[snow escarp]

I can try finding it tomorrow

[dapper moat]

Ooho~ we're doing custom outfits now?

Urge to make some absurd fancy beeg dress rising.

[snow escarp]

good luck, you're going to need it

[ionic lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/cruftbox-but-why-gif-1290062710361139636

[snow escarp]

to change the typing of the trainer obviously

[ionic lichen]

Like half of those stupid Tera Hats look absurd

And that crystal effect will be so hard to get with all the details in that small canvas with pixels

[rapid elbow]

I think it's doable

[latent hazel]

there's a cake hat

[bronze blade]

Question: Is there a lab coat somewhere in the game?

[snow escarp]

There's a science outfit that ressemble one

[latent hazel]

i couldve sworn somebody made a scientist outfit other than the one I made but the only one I can think of is the one you get for fusing one fusion

[next cosmos]

Honestly a lot of hair/hats/outfits that were talked about and started in here were never finished/submitted. I'm about to just take one up since I waited like 7 months for someone to finish something I asked about

Think at that point its fair game

[twin oyster]

if its something i said and forgot sorry

[echo mirage]

Going to work on editing my zigzagoon hat a bit

Left new right old

Shrunk the ears, made the forehead bigger, and made the eyes a little darker

on trainer visualization

needs a bit of outline on the white behind the head

[echo mirage]

shorted the body a bit

going to work on the overworld ones next

[next cosmos]

No its not! This person's last message in the server was saying they were going to do it, and that was 7 months ago

[echo mirage]

Changed the position of the front facing sprite so its further on the forehead. One piece of feedback I got is that the eye placement on the side view looks off - Trying to figure out how to resolve

also going to make the back view a little shorter

[echo mirage]

#1374855613787410512

[echo mirage]

submitted the zigzaghat

[next cosmos]

this thing scared the hell out of my cats

[outer basin]

The hat part of the police uniform has been submitted 🫡

[steady grove]

Is there somewhere that has all outfits and hats listed

[latent hazel]

there should be an outfit list pinned but idk if its been updated recently

[sour juniper]

The wiki has them
https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Hats
https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Clothes
https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Hair_Styles

[ionic lichen]

The Absol hat on that mannequin sprite is giving Moon Knight headpiece vibes for some reason

[outer basin]

Who's hating on absol

[ionic lichen]

I hate touch keyboards so MUCH ugh

[copper rampart]

me too i should be able to use keyboards with my mind

[ionic lichen]

No thanks, I don't trust techbros with circuitry in my brain.
BUT there was a golden era of smartphone keyboards that the iPhone basically destroyed and I want it back.

[outer basin]

The police uniform outfit has been submitted 🫡

Now you can serve on the force or impersonate an officer

[dreamy plaza]

Is there any kind of guide to how many outfits the lady in Saffron makes?? I want to check all the options, but she only seems to take specific Pokémon (aside from the generic Fusion Outfit shtick)...

[outer basin]

There should be a guide in the wiki

[ionic lichen]

Dressed as an officer making deals with Rocket on the bridge to get into the club in Saffron to the underground

[spiral dock]

thoughts on this?

[copper rampart]

Cute

Maybe the leftmost bang goes a pixel more right

[spiral dock]

like this?

[copper rampart]

Oh not bang I meant like

Side hair?

Although that does look better lol

[lone yoke]

I've heard of those called side bangs before? idk hair terms

I've also heard wisps, fringe, and frames

[spiral dock]

oh ok

looks a little weird

[spiral dock]

i think so

[outer basin]

I think this looks better than before

It being much further from the eye compared to the other one made it feel like the bangs were quite a distance ahead from the face

[spiral dock]

hmmmm

if u say so

thx, RealThree

[outer basin]

This is a good hairstyle that I may use in my own playthroughs

[spiral dock]

how should i name it?

high bun with bangs?

[bronze blade]

Does anyone know if there’s a lab coat in the game?

[outer basin]

I think the Fusion Expert or whatever it's called uses a lab coat

You should look through the list of outfits on the wiki

[latent hazel]

why do messages keep appearing and disappearing

[twin oyster]

idk

[latent hazel]

anyways just showing some older stuff

[next cosmos]

Probably kind of spam message that gets caught by automod. We notice it more here since this channel isn't as active as general

[twin oyster]

did the duxtox bow thingy to go with klaras outfit

[twin oyster]

@fresh trout

[fresh trout]

OMG

wait I need it

[snow escarp]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1450912138066526329

[quaint lily]

Are we allowed to make hats that cover up the entire trainer head? (Like a motorcycle helmet for example)

[latent hazel]

yes

i have multiple

there's currently 9 in game that obscure the head completely

[quaint lily]

Ooh, I wanna make one of those diving suit helmets

Like this

[latent hazel]

WALLACE

IM NOT MAKING A THREAD FOR THIS

[outer basin]

Why not

[latent hazel]

I DONT WANT TO

[twin oyster]

hey guys i cannot find who did this, any clue

[next cosmos]

Hey @twin oyster You made the magma uniform right? Would you be able to to aqua? I think the person who did it never got around to it and it's coming to close to the time that we'll need it

[twin oyster]

yeah sure ill do it this weekend

it the og or the oras one?

[latent hazel]

sorry for the ping but transparent pixels in clothes is fine, right? nothing inappropriate, to clarify, just want to know if the intentional transparency is cool

also

[next cosmos]

yeah! I was going to make the white hand and make it semi transparent. if its intentional its good

[latent hazel]

is there a different place to submit hoenn sprites?

I have the wallace reward done (at the very least just one wallace based access if his hat would be a better reward)

[next cosmos]

Nope, same place!

[next cosmos]

hmmmm, I think og. in the end we'll need both versions of each team (and male/female if we can ever get to it), but for now this will be fine, especially since you did the og for magma

8 outfits is a lot in the end

but at least hats are done, yay

here are the hats for the color palettes

[twin oyster]

hey anyone else wants to take up the team aqua sprite i not feeling it rn

[outer basin]

I could make an attempt at it

I've never sprited humans before

Wait, do you mean the trainer sprite or all the sprites for the outfit?

[twin oyster]

the outfits

[outer basin]

Ah, that's more sprites than I can afford to take on right now

[spiral dock]

these?

[spiral dock]

if so

and the bald versions

[lone yoke]

I think you put some of the pants details on the same layer as the hair

[next cosmos]

Nice job!! Now we'll need the overworld spritesheets. Also hats were already done, and the colors need to match them if they don't already

[bright crown]

Wow they really did get a glow up in oras didn't they

[next cosmos]

Yeah, eventually we'll need these too. The grunt npcs we use kinda depends on if we can get the player outfit for them

[bright crown]

also a lot more stripes

[next cosmos]

Oh yeah the stripes would need to be condensed

[next cosmos]

Right now we only have the rse magma outfit, so the demo and possibly the whole game will probably have rse grunts

[spiral dock]

i just screenshoted the wrong frames

there's 11 of them

[spiral dock]

thanks, Paya
they're matching already, and i kinda just made some changes to the hat for my own sprites

cuz i had some issues with it

[twin oyster]

yes but thats the easy part the annoying part is doingt the overworld

[spiral dock]

real

[spiral dock]

i finished it

does anyone know how to use that tool to see how they look?

[twin oyster]

nope never used it myself

[spiral dock]

fair

i'll just submit it then

[odd patrol]

I sent Frog some head accessory ideas I made. How long will it take before I get told they're okay/not okay?

[twin oyster]

you better wait sitting down...

[odd patrol]

Will do.

[austere parcel]

so ur telling me we need clothes managers

[snow escarp]

yes I can try to explain what to do to use it?

[snow escarp]

I think you can only use it on pc, or it would be harder on phone/tablet at least
you'll need python installed on your pc (you'll need to install it yourself on windows) and a text/code editor (notepad is enough)

• first you'll need to go to the line 8 and change the var OUTFITS_GAME_PATH, in between the " you'll have to put the folder path to the clothes folder in your PIF game and save
  like "C:\Users\username\Desktop\PIF\InfiniteFusion\Graphics\Characters\player" for example
  (you don't need to put your new clothes to test in that folder)
  alternatively you can put a path to any folder as long as it exist

• then you'll have to open a command prompt (cmd) where the file ClothingPreviewUI.py is and run
  python -m pip install pillow to install the pillow library (PIL in the code)
  if you're on window you can go on the folder path textbox, del everything and type "cmd"
  as a tip you can use tab in a command to circulate through file names

• finally in the same cmd you can enter the command python ClothingPreviewUI.py
  and it should run!
  -# if there's an error telling you a library isn't installed on your pc you can do the same command as in point 2 and replace pillow by the library
  Once you've done point 1 and 2 once you'll just have to do 3 the next times

to import your outfit you'll have to make a folder named after the id and containing the files with the same id
let's say it's my whiscash bowl hat, you need to make a folder called "whiscashbowlhat" that contains "hat_trainer_whiscashbowlhat.png" and "hat_whiscashbowlhat.png"

if you want more help or you're on another os you can ping me (if I'm not asleep )

I hope it's not too badly explained

it should look like this

[spiral dock]

u explained it very well, thanks

[halcyon grove]

Mind if I pin this (with the tool as well)?

[outer basin]

I submitted a hat for a ghostly white hand for Lavender Town

[next cosmos]

Oh you did? I was working on it

[next cosmos]

#custom-outfits-discussion message

[snow escarp]

Sure

[halcyon grove]

-# I’m in bed so now it’s tomorrows problem

Thank you though

[snow escarp]

Make on the other shoulder so the player can have 2 ghost hands

[outer basin]

Tbf, I had said a year ago that I would make it, and Gordo said half a year ago that he would make it

The three of us have all been sitting around going "Yeah, I'll make that"

[snow escarp]

one for each shoulders and one for the head

[proven hamlet]

Retail Managers

[icy shore]

hello

[spiral dock]

hello

[hollow vale]

So sorry that the RSE Magma female outfit is taking a bit! I totally forgot to mention that my GPU died in this chat I'll be able to crunch it out in the coming weeks once I get my new one.

[native glen]

Be funny for axolotl frills but the womper kind

[hollow vale]

@next cosmos sorry for ping, but is there a deadline you'll need it for the Hoenn demo? I should be all set by the new year to work on it

[hollow vale]

We already have that! The wooper clips

You can get them from the Krabby Legs quest in Vermillion city iirc

[next cosmos]

Probably early next year. We definitely want male and female for aqua/magma RSE and ORAS, but for the demo we need need male RSE for aqua and magma since they're more or a unisex option

Unless we change some things around with the story

[hollow vale]

Right okay. I'll get the female RSE one done asap anyways!
It looks like someone already has Aqua done/in progress so that's a plus. I'm not sure if anyone is working on the male ORAS Magma one...

[next cosmos]

They did the trainer sprite, dont know about the ow sprites though. With it being christmas I haven't had time to check

[hollow vale]

I'll see how long it takes me to finish the fem Magma; if need be I can always do the male Aqua

I just have the dive and surf ones to do iirc

[next cosmos]

That would be sweet! The sooner the better, but I'd think maybe mid January?

[hollow vale]

Mid January? Alright, I'll see what I can do! If I can't get it done I'll at least post what I have so someone can finish it

OWs are so tedious

[next cosmos]

Yeah, its been a long time and I thought they were being worked on this whole time. It wasnt until frog mentioned something to me the other day when I realize someone took it on and never finished

After the holidays I'll talk to frog about it for more of a time frame, maybe he'll be okay with February

[hollow vale]

Yeah I thought someone was doing the Aqua stuff as well

Oh well! A concrete deadline would be very appreciated if you can get it.

[halcyon grove]

I forgot something here

[halcyon grove]

Merry fucking Christmas past me

[spiral dock]

i posted it that same day

[next cosmos]

The overworld sprites too? That usually takes time since you have 90~ frames 🤔

[spiral dock]

ye, i made all of them

[outer basin]

I submitted this hat item

[ionic lichen]

||https://goomydoingstuff.tumblr.com/||

[hollow vale]

I return! Will work on my stuff when I can.

[scarlet spruce]

How do we make hats? I kinda want to try and make 4 castform hats.

Also (and I know this is probably impossible, but may as well shoot my shot), would it be at all possible to make it so that they bob up and down in the air when idle and/or become smooshed when riding a bike?

Also, would we be able to have a hat that rests on ones shoulder? Another idea I had (and this will probably have to be an actual outfit) was a pirate costume with a Chatot on the shoulder.

I plan on making my own fan game, and I figured this would be a good introduction to this type of spriting!

[twin oyster]

ok in order 1. read #custom-outfits-submissions for details on how to sprite outfits 2 no hats cant be animated 3 yes hat can be anywhere near the head for example kogas scarf counts as a hat and i think the ghost hand from lavender sits n the shoulder

[scarlet spruce]

Thanks!

[weary meteor]

Hats can be animated when moving, but itll be tied to moving (so you can do the bike thing but not anything while idle) nvm just outfits and hair, mb

[next cosmos]

No hats cannot be animated. There are only 4 frames, and they're the the standing frames thats just looking in different directions. Its hair that can be animated via walking cycle

Hats are a still object on your head

[weary meteor]

#1457308698325287056

[weary meteor]

#1458021675160305756 Just checking, but according to others in this thread transparency is allowed for character customisation?

[outer basin]

Yes, it's allowed

I like the funny bubble

[weary meteor]

Unfortunately, doing a bubble outfit would probably break a few rules

[twin oyster]

i mean if the loins are covered it should be fine

[latent hazel]

I mean you can add like a scientist or test subject outfit under transparent pants/jacket

[outer basin]

Rain poncho :)

[next cosmos]

I love this

[copper rampart]

Clothing ideas for anyone who wants to steal them (if they don't already exist)

Chimecho scarf
Beedrill drill earrings
Ninetales Mohawk
Meowth headphones
Meganium flower dress
Absol headpiece
Piplup cape
Infernape pauldrons
Flygon goggles
Roserade cape
Lampent hat
Scolipede horn headband
Bewear headband
Faux shovel (Sandyghast)
Meloetta earpiece
Chespin hood
Scrafty hoodie

[outer basin]

Earrings might be a pain to make readable at this scale

[ionic lichen]

1 pixel

[snow escarp]

Easy, the overworld sprites is just an empty template

[weary meteor]

I cant believe nobody has made a bald hairstyle yet smh

[outer basin]

Actually, there is a Bald hairstyle in the game
So, uh, technically Frog made it?

[lone yoke]

needs to be updated. Add a little bit of shine

[hollow vale]

I made a baby hair

[outer basin]

Can
Can we have Polished Bald as a hairstyle

If I sprite some highlights for your head can it be put in the game

[ionic lichen]

Cue ball?

[sour juniper]

Lmao yes

[scarlet spruce]

How do I make this work

[ember pier]

Hi, I came to snoop in here for no reason

Also might make this thing, assuming someone else isnt working on it

[ember pier]

I'm assuming it and its counterpart are allowed anyway

Albeit, what do I name it, It'd be kinda similar to the Magma and Aqua Grunt Uniforms in name.

[sour juniper]

That would be really cool! This is actually one of the first possible outfits we were talking about when me and kiwi were working on the underwater regi temple, before character customization was even released

[ember pier]

Is there any way for me to check what outfits, hats, etc. are or have been made? I was trying to find it but the fact theres like 5 sheets confused me.

The idea of making her hair also interests me, but like. I assume a similar style has been done already.

[sour juniper]

Not sure if it's fully up to date, but the wiki is probably the easiest to navigate

https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Clothes

[ember pier]

What exactly does special mean. Is it like a different color specifically for the reference?

[sour juniper]

Where?

[ember pier]

For hair

It has a preview of colors but some have extras labeled special

And I haven't seen any directions discussing that

[sour juniper]

Ahh, well basically you can add more hair colors on top of the base 4. Most of the time it's not really needed because players can dye their hair and that covers most of the possible colors but if you want to do something more funky like multiple colors, etc. it's possible to do it

It's an optional hair color 5 basically

[ember pier]

I assume its probably only used for the refs that really need it then. Like Jessie's hair color.

[sour juniper]

Yeah exactly

[latent hazel]

also you can use the accepted/submitted items folders, usually spriters name them after the games/characters they're based on

[hollow vale]

Anabel may be making an appearance in PIF Hoenn (if we have frontier) so it'd be cool to see her hair

there's already a suit, so

[ember pier]

I mean, wouldn't it be her RSE appearance though? Since SM Anabel fell through a ultra wormhole and just kinda vanished for roughly 10 years. And this is before even taking into account her rank means she has to have been with the org a while, likley longer than looker.

Unless yall plan on bringing in Looker and the International Police. (Which I suppose isnt impossible, he has a cameo in ORAS and is responsible for getting the player Audinite). Though the fact anabel is implied to be of quite high rank in the organization isn't great. Not to mention the fact if she's been missing for at least 10 years as of Sun and Moon, it means she likley fell before the events of RSE.

Either way, anabels hair is neat. And even if its not a direct ref to her in the game. We can still have it. I mean, we have N's hair and he doesnt appear (at least I don't think he does)

[hollow vale]

Maybe, maybe not. It depends on when in the timeline that PIF Hoenn takes place We'll see what Frog cooks.

[ember pier]

I guess I assumed it'd take place at least somewhat close to RSE and ORAS. Though if can be pushed down, taking place shortly after the X and Y postgame would be an great spot since we know looker got called to a job in a far off region at the end of it (which also means it can't be galar or paldea, due to kalos's location). Hoenn could easily be that region. Expecially given that we know Looker had at least one mission in between the X and Y postgame and Sun and Moon (thats a 2 year time period). (It also allows you to skirt around the issue of his croagunk, a non PIF mon, since its implied to have died sometime between PT and XY.)

That placement also comes with the benefit of the battle chateau instead of the battle frontier, which requires far less work to set up, and wouldn't require explanations as to how Anabel is mysteriously back in her position, since it wouldn't exist (albeit someone could replace her, Emmet is a decent choice since we know the Battle Subway was closed due to Ingo's disappearance at least between B2W2 and SV)

(An NPC in Blueberry mentions how the Battle Subway was closed, and implys it had for a while, which to me says it closed after Ingo fell sometime after B2W2, but ZA confirms Ingo has since returned to modern day, albeit we don't know if they've gone back to Emmet or not)

Anyways this probably doesnt belong here, but I kinda already typed it all lol. If anybody ever needs help anything in terms of niche things in pokemon yall know where to find me.

[bright drift]

za confirms the subway is back open/in the process of re-opening by that point i believe

*coughs* so how do i get into outfit spriting, i see some python tool in the pins but am not sure where to start otherwise

[twin oyster]

i think this one is up to date and its already pined btw https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19uYNGk5SbBqcsHV155IBcABcIbRatEhkLTwTK2R3LU8/edit?gid=891834841#gid=891834841

[twin oyster]

#custom-outfits-submissions read here to start

[bright drift]

ty!

[ember pier]

I knew he returned, wasnt sure if there was dialgoue about the Battle Subway as well

[bright drift]

there's some random npc dialogue about it

[ember pier]

They say its up and running again, so its definitely a recent reopenning.

[ember pier]

Honestly thinking about it more, between X and Y and Sun and Moon is probably the best place to put PIF 2, to have it modern enough that things like megas, ultra wormhole, and parallel dimension theory are discovered and semi-common knowledge. But not so modern that you run into Sun and Moons mass amounts of continuity errors.

[outer basin]

I would prefer it if PIF1 and PIF2 occurred simultaneously so I don't have to worry about managing the dex across two separate points in time

[ember pier]

When does PIF1 take place technically?

The fact Red exists means its at least GSC/HGSS/DPPT. (If you werent aware Johto and Sinnoh happen at the same time).

[ember pier]

Also, given how different the dexes are between Hoenn and Kanto thats already a mess anyway, adding time won't do much more to mess it up. Cept maybe like Porygon's lore since they really like mentioning its age.

[weary meteor]

Doesn't Colress appear in post-game?

[ember pier]

That instantly places it post B2W2 then, but also creates a continuity error. Since Johto Red and Post Plasma Colress cant coexist

[outer basin]

Most likely, 1996

PIF is its own continuity

[ember pier]

Fair, it can easily chose to ignore games. Though Colress needs to have discovered pokemon fusion, so its still at least concurrent B2W2 in the timeline.

Due to all the factors, I guess the only spot that makes sense is a direct replacement of LGPE. Which happens sometime between B2W2 and Sun and Moon.

Additionally since X and Y is concurrent to B2W2, it means Blue has to be heading or have headed back home from studying abroad in Kalos. Which explains both Red and Blue being in Kanto/Johto, since they seemingly travel together (or at least have yet to appear appart).

So PIF likley takes place roughly a year after B2W2/XY.

Though, if Mega's aren't canon to PIF.
XY, LGPE, and SMUSUM are all skipped. Since they're in the opposite universe. Meaning any time after B2W2 works, albeit Red and Blue still need to be in Alola by Sun and Moon, but Colress doesn't.

[sour juniper]

It takes place at the same time as RBY, three years before GSC

[outer basin]

Pokémon Fusion in PIF has existed in the wild since ancient times, so that is a nonissue
Unless you meant fusion technology, in which case, that was developed by Silph a few years before PIF1, not Colress, so it's still a nonissue

[ember pier]

No I'm aware of the fact its ancient. I guess I forgot Colress had nothing to do with making the modern one.

[outer basin]

In on-topic news:

[ember pier]

Thanks for the clarification.

[ember pier]

If thats the case is it safe to say PIF2 will be concurrent with RSE/ORAS? Or is that something you don't want to answer?

[outer basin]

I think RBY is already concurrent with RSE

[ember pier]

Oh yea I'm dumb

So some reason I was thinking it was with GSC, but thats sinnoh (DPPT/ BDSP)

RGBY and RSE/ORAS
GSC/HGSS and DPPT/BDSP
B2W2 and XY
SV and ZA

[brisk basalt]

How do you make a hat, or something you put on your head? I've been making sprites for quite a while, but I've never really thought about it. I really want to make one! But I have no idea... Where do you find the basic character models? What are the rules to follow? Where do you post it? What format should it be in?

[outer basin]

All the answers to your questions are in #custom-outfits-submissions

Except Frog's trying something different with hats, so the submission for that is a google form linked in the pins here

[sour juniper]

Speaking of which, I just finished making a similar form for submitting clothes!
Works exactly the same way as for submitting hats
https://forms.gle/149Q1CiQ3xaKHhNV8

[outer basin]

Idea: Googly-eye glasses that give your character huge eyes

[sour juniper]

Love it lmao

[twin oyster]

you should probably ping it

[sour juniper]

It's already updated in #custom-outfits-submissions

[twin oyster]

ok

[hollow vale]

bike is done

[scarlet spruce]

How's this? I'm not a fan of the front and back facing sprites, but I like the back ones.

[hollow vale]

I think the front and back just need some more outlines to define them a bit better'

[scarlet spruce]

I tried, but they looked massive

WAIT. CHATOT HAS A BACK SPRITE. BRB

[hollow vale]

You could also use the PMD ones for reference.

[scarlet spruce]

What does that mean? Also, I forgot the backspritrs were at an angle 😅

[hollow vale]

Chatot is in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

You could possibly use it as a reference for how they made it look

It's too large to be used as a hat but shrinking it down to size may give you an idea?

https://sprites.pmdcollab.org/#/0441?form=0

There's also the chatot pokedoll from D/P/PT

And in HG/SS it has a proper overworld

(its next to happiny)

The same OW was also reused for BW2

Hopefully seeing how GF makes Chatot smol helps you figure out how to do it for a hat

[scarlet spruce]

I definitely think the back one looks much better, though I'm still unsure about the front facing one

[hollow vale]

It looks like the body could be a bit wider.

[next cosmos]

I'm excited guys, something is coming and in active development Your lives will be so much easier

That's all I can say, k thanks byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[twin oyster]

youll be able to pay us for sprites thatll make my live easier

[next cosmos]

HAH

I wish

[hollow vale]

lord knows i could make a living off of all the sprites i've made

also @sour juniper sorry for ping but I just tested out the outfit form, looks like it works well!

The female magma uniform (RSE) is done

[next cosmos]

Hell yeah! this is going to make things so much better

[snow escarp]

might as well share these here as well, working on agentyoshi's prize a frosmoth themed ski outfit
-# I'm dreading doing the overworld alread

[hollow vale]

I try to save the trainer for last since it's easiest. Looks great!

[snow escarp]

I do it first so IK roughtly what I'll put on the overworld but keeping the best for last sound nice
-# IK details won't translate

[hollow vale]

I find that if I do the trainer first I load up on too many details

[scarlet spruce]

A spriting tool?

[snow escarp]

ooooh maybe something to help making the overworld sprite?

please

[scarlet spruce]

Motivational squirrel memes?

[next cosmos]

Okay I can't hold back, remember this? #custom-outfits-discussion message frog has made some amazing headway into making it user friendly

Also, I got the greenlight to create one vanity role for character customization

[snow escarp]

so you don't need to have python and pip installed?

[next cosmos]

nope, he remade it with java

sooooooooooo if it tests well, I think it'll be via web browser. And you can drag and drop files

AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, I requested it to be in dark mode cause I'm old and my eyes burn with white backgrounds

Shhh don't tell him I told you I'm just so excited

[snow escarp]

that's why you wrote it here in plain sight

[next cosmos]

I'm gambling that he won't read the chat here and notice

[snow escarp]

you better gamble that no mod comes here an pin the msg

[twin oyster]

the rol icon has to be scrafty wearing the drying pan

[next cosmos]

Haha dont know if there will be an icon, but I do love anything with the drying pan

[twin oyster]

it was the only scrafty fusion i had at hand

[sour juniper]

Thank you! 🙏

[outer basin]

Here are the overworld sprites for Chatot
You can see if they fit

Even if you don't use them, based on the placement of the side views, the one on the front view should be scooted down a few pixels
*On your version, I mean

[scarlet spruce]

Thanks!

[sour juniper]

Waddup pif fashion designers! As Paya teased earlier (yes I saw ) I have made a user friendly tool for previewing overworld sprites for hats, hair, and outfits! I made it into a web page, I hope it helps!
Here is the link: https://outfits-tool.infinitefusion.net/

[latent hazel]

:D

[next cosmos]

Also we talked more about the vanity role for character customization. I just made it and it's called Fashion Designer, and will require you to have made 5 outfits that were accepted into the game, not just submitted. Hats and hair will not count for this as the amount of work that goes to them is far easier than actual outfits, which we need a lot more of. We want to recognize all the hard work that goes into them and encourage others to take on the challenge of making more for the game! If you have already achieved this, ping myself or frog so we can verify, and we'll give it to you We want to make a role image, but this is all brand new so it's pending for now. There will be an announcement at a later time, but we wanted to let you guys know first. Also this will only be one role, I don't think there will be another, but we'll consider the possibility if absolutely necessary.

[latent hazel]

@next cosmos you know what's up (water outfit, fusion nerd, fusion nerd 2 with the dna stuff, ghost, forest lord, uhhh pomeg glitch i forgot the rest im tired)

[next cosmos]

Oh I know you definitely deserve it I personally adjusted some of the credits

Congrats on being the fitst person with the role!

[latent hazel]

yaaay!

[vast light]

Added Fashion Designer to ohok3441. || No reason given.

[sour juniper]

Are you going to be the second one? I'm pretty sure you qualify too

[next cosmos]

I do?

[latent hazel]

if yall arent planning to, should i go through the list in outfit tracker and see who qualifies?

[next cosmos]

Also I see you malxire, you deserve it too

[twin oyster]

give it up (fire, flying, figthing, gymwear, dragon, poisong hoodie )

[vast light]

Added Fashion Designer to malxire. || No reason given.

[next cosmos]

Holy shit I do, I completely forgot about two of them

[sour juniper]

I guess technically the May outfit is not in the game yet tho

[next cosmos]

It's already in hoenn, different game but still a game

[twin oyster]

give us the scroomy with the drying pan icon

[latent hazel]

updating these as i go
blackbosom, xenophacilus, kiwikelly, gummyfrog

[next cosmos]

gummy too

[vast light]

Added Fashion Designer to .payapon. || No reason given.

[next cosmos]

Thank you

I didnt want to give it to myself, or it would have felt like this

[vast light]

Added Fashion Designer to blackbosom. || No reason given.

[latent hazel]

ok maybe sorting myself was a bad idea i felt a sting in my wrist
so much for taking a break

[vast light]

Added Fashion Designer to xenophacilus. || No reason given.

Added Fashion Designer to kiwikelly. || No reason given.

Added Fashion Designer to gummy.frog. || No reason given.

[next cosmos]

@hollow vale @high owl @cursive sapphire @short dagger @next cosmos @twin oyster @latent hazel
Give it up for our first set of verified fashion designers! You all have the new vanity role for making at least 5 accepted outfits, contrats!

[cursive sapphire]

That's new

[next cosmos]

Yep, brand new. It was literally just made. Thank you for your hard work~

[cursive sapphire]

Thanks
Though I still have one outfit I have held off from making since last year still 😅

[hollow vale]

thank you paya!

[next cosmos]

It's okay, these take so long to make no one is judging. I think most of us take forever to make these

[next cosmos]

You're welcome!

[ionic lichen]

[outer basin]

Is there somewhere we can check our list of accepted outfits?

I made the police uniform, but I don't know if it was technically accepted or not because there haven't been any large updates to PIF recently, so my recent character customization pieces haven't been able to go in the tracker sheet

[spiral dock]

@next cosmos hey, can i have the role if 2 of the outfits are female and male versions? (Ice Outfit, Deliquent Outfit, Streetwear, Aqua team Male and Aqua team Female)

[sour juniper]

We thought about that and weren't sure if we should allow them but in the end we decided that yes, as long as they're two separate outfits in the game then it should count.

[sour juniper]

There's not really any good way before related. I have a master sheet for character customization that isn't public, but I guess I could share viewing access.

For now the best would just be to ping me (or the future character customization manager if we set that up eventually) if you made 5 and think you should have the role

The police uniform was accepted btw

[hollow vale]

Here's hoping CC manager becomes a thing

It'll make things easier on you and Paya

[sour juniper]

Oh yeah definitely, it's mostly just a matter of actually setting it up and everything 😅

[spiral dock]

oh, nice! may i have it then, please?

[latent hazel]

tbh different variants of outfits counting probably would motivate people to make more options for the same outfit, which people in the past have asked for

[halcyon grove]

Future customization manager?

[snow escarp]

I vote for oh ok to be the clothes store manager

[proven hamlet]

Oh man now i need to make outfits

Very iconic role

[proven hamlet]

I would not wish this on my worst enemy

[next cosmos]

That was my thought. I was a little hesitant at first cause some male and female outfits are mostly copy and paste, but after thinking on it I would rather have more inclusive options that look similar for people of different body shapes than, people having to conform to one gendered look.

[latent hazel]

nuh uh

[latent hazel]

im actually going back to my water outfit rn to try to chip at the overworlds for the more "neutral" fit

i regret this already

[snow escarp]

you are getting a promotion, do not resist
-# /j

[latent hazel]

NOOOOOO

[proven hamlet]

Retail is ur destiny

[latent hazel]

im an animation student that's a given

[next cosmos]

Hell yeah!! That's awesome I shutter that you made an asymmetrical outfit, good luck with that

[latent hazel]

dont be stupid like me

i love asymmetry

[proven hamlet]

Will the icon be bruxish or jynx, is the real question

[latent hazel]

...i have a bad idea for a bruxish outfit now

guady overdone fashion with a feather boa and coral designs on a big fancy night gown with leopard print

[scarlet spruce]

Do yall think this is ready?

[lone yoke]

I used to be a custom outfit guy

by which I mean I made 1 outfit and the animations were jank as hell

I feel like if I were to return to this at some point I would likely stick to concept arts. I just like drawing clothes

[latent hazel]

they look a lil shit

[snow escarp]

naaa they look good 👀

if you made it green the overworld would look a bit like a christmas tree if you're looking for alternate version

[outer basin]

I bet it would take well to hue shifting with the game's dye kit

[snow escarp]

I hope there would be a shiny version, pizza themed outfit

[quaint wigeon]

Squidward

[sour juniper]

Hmm I'm only seeing the Ice outfit and Delinquent Outfit credited to you in the outfits tracker. Which others did you make?

[spiral dock]

the other 3 were already accepted, but are not implemented yet, those being Streetwear, Aquateam M and Aquateam F

[sour juniper]

Thank you, I didn't have the credits for those. I'll update them

[vast light]

Added Fashion Designer to dabouiw. || No reason given.

[sour juniper]

Here you go!

[spiral dock]

thank you very much, Frog!!

[outer basin]

It's that race of people with blue skin from Ultra Megalopolis

[latent hazel]

unrelated: was customization randomization ever added? like random overworld items and pokemon, just their spawn points change

[outer basin]

Not that I know of

I'm curious to know if all the outfits and hats from pif1 will be obtainable in pif 2, either through unlocking or transferring

[alpine scroll]

it's probaly a missing sprite

[twin oyster]

Already taken care off (the sprite name was misspelled) would be fixed in next patch

[lone yoke]

the classic bug of "naked but only when doing this specific action"

[next cosmos]

playthrough talk isn't a great place to report an error why

#1052360360172199977 would have been best, but at least this isn't the worst place to be directed to

[halcyon grove]

At least this one has been fixed

[next cosmos]

yep! now to wait on frog to implement it he usually doesn't unless there's a game update, but maybe he'll do one sooner since i know a couple outfits had fixes

[halcyon grove]

There hasn't been a game update since like October

[next cosmos]

I'm about to change that I swear to god

[twin oyster]

I mean 3 months without updates isnt that bad

[halcyon grove]

Nah, it’s not the worst

[outer basin]

I have like 40 hats waiting on an update to be added 😔

[bright crown]

Especially when another game is being worked on as well

[outer basin]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1461103273049329965

[copper rampart]

Might sketch these ideas

[outer basin]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1461181971966333092

[neon ermine]

Quick question for the player skin tones, what does Type E fall under? Would it be 5 or would I have to pick 0 because I wanna import my own sprite into them

[neon ermine]

Nevermind, sorry, I found one of the pins that helped me find it

[ionic lichen]

This is hilarious, it almost looks like a censor bar over a flashy cyclist haha

[ionic lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/hat-dab-buttdoctor-hatdab-hattower-gif-19325280

[next cosmos]

Reminds me that someone had this issue too, but didn't say what outfit it was and I think they were wearing a hat. They were convinced it was something wrong with the bike after I said it was the outfit, and I'm like...... that's just it my dude, its the outfit on the bike gave instructions on how to report it and he said he would, but never did. I hope it was the same outfit

[outer basin]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1461446394610057306

[twin oyster]

im pretty sure poison now has the most related outfits

[outer basin]

This isn't meant to be a type specialist outfit, btw

[twin oyster]

no i know but it it obviously related to the type

[outer basin]

I just wanted to make sure

[outer basin]

I submitted the polished bald "hairstyle"

[alpine scroll]

lol fr

[radiant briar]

How do these submissions work? Do the custom outfits get added in the next sprite update? Or is it the whole game update they get added, if accepted?

[next cosmos]

Only via game updates if frog accepts the outfit submission

[radiant briar]

Ohhh okay

Thank you

[weary meteor]

Are sprites that are accepted but not in-game yet in a different spot to the 'accepted' sprites?~~ I cant seem to find my Toxic outfit anywhere~~ hmmmm

[next cosmos]

If they were accepted they're put in the same place, but a game update which will implement them has not happened yet. Frog recently changed the submission system, but you can check in the rejected folder of the drive to see if your sprite is in there

The information should be here #custom-outfits-submissions message

We haven't had a game update in I believe 3 months, so if it was submitted before then, it was either rejected or he didn't get around to accepting it yet. If it was submitted after, than the lack of a game update is probably what it is

Also when I say rejection I should explain better, sorry it's a bit late. A full rejection is absolutely not - like an anime refrence or something. That's a full no for frog. But if the outfit is noticibly not great quality, it can go in a folder of the drive dedicated errors and ones that need fixing

[weary meteor]

NEVERMIND I thought it was named differently

[next cosmos]

But yeah, specific questions should be answered by frog. I help out, but he set the technical system up, and my access is different than what you guys have

[weary meteor]

I named it the 'toxic' outfit initially (before submitting), though I realised I named it wrong and it should have been the sludge outfit, and renamed it... (based on USUM Sludge outfit)

[wild fog]

Has anyone done or plans to do the hair of the female trainer from the Gotcha! music video? Because I started it before realizing it might be redundant

[twin oyster]

No i dont think anyone is doing that one

[snow escarp]

finished it
#1463981596544598211
-# I take name suggestions

btw unlike on the python tool it looks like it's not possible to download the gif on the sprite viewer website

[twin oyster]

take a screen record?

[snow escarp]

that's not a gif tho
anyway I just launched the python viewer for that

[wild fog]

So, this is my current attempt at the Gotcha! Girl (I don't think she has a canon name) hair

I don't like it, it's lacking something

enbiggen

[snow escarp]

IDK if that's what's missing but the middle band is white

[wild fog]

oh shes AMERICAN

[snow escarp]

you could also try puffing the hair a tad more and spiking more toward the top?
btw the top of the hair should use some colored outlines

[wild fog]

I thought the outlines would clash with the game's style

[snow escarp]

you can take a look at what has been done previously 👀

https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Hair_Styles

short shaggy spikes is probably the closest (if we forget about the braids )

[wild fog]

Actually I think what was really weirding me off was the default expression, but I'll try the fluffier bits and highlight ideas too

[snow escarp]

you can't change the expression btw, but it's fine if you want to use it for spriting the hair

[outer basin]

Nose privileges revoked

[wild fog]

I know, it was just for reference

Is it required to use the palettes used in the other hair sprites?

[snow escarp]

yes, there is 4 palettes and you must do a version for each of them, you can find the palettes in #custom-outfits-submissions
you can also do a 5th version called "special"
I think accessories don't need to use that palette

[wild fog]

Thanks

[next cosmos]

Try not to use that 5th slot unless absolutely necessary

[outer basin]

Absolutely necessary would be like if the hair is from a specific character with a special color of hair, right?

[next cosmos]

Yep! Like the hair used for the ||fairy type expert|| who has the ponytail with two different colors, or misty's orangethe specific shade of teal for kris, etc.

basically, don't add a 5th color slot just because you feel like it

[rapid elbow]

when does a costume get in the game?

oh there hasn't been a game update in a while
would they be added alongside a new update?

[snow escarp]

they get added at the next update, I assume they have to be added in the game code

[outer basin]

This is the answer to your question

[twin oyster]

They get added with the update if they can, for example the ghost outfit has been sitting out a couple of updates cause frog hasnt finish the specialist team

[ionic lichen]

That message and the one after seem useful and I don't show them in the pins (unless I'm just completely missing it), are those pin-worthy?

[outer basin]

I'm not in charge of pins here
It's up to probably the sprite managers whether "cc is implemented through updates" should be pinned
The other information about submissions should already be in #custom-outfits-submissions, though

[next cosmos]

I can write something up for a pin

[snow escarp]

I think I might have messed up one of my submission and inverted the trainer card sprite with the overworld one
How can I check/fix?

[snow escarp]

can you add eyebrows to a haircut?

I'm asking cuz it looks like the character shaved them with a haircut I'm doing

outfit + hair based on Z-A fashion (sported by hero.drawing)

[outer basin]

I suppose there's nothing stopping you from adding eyebrows

The outfit looks super cool

[next cosmos]

you would need to look in the drive https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1nO2vke3pZGVuZJhAOQJEUVFbi-oclqKo

its found in #custom-outfits-submissions

[snow escarp]

It's not in it I submitted it with the form :/

[next cosmos]

Thats where it should go after submitting via form, or at least i thought 🤔 at this point its a @sour juniper question

[sour juniper]

frostedbeanie right? I can fix it manually dw

But for future reference, you can just resubmit it again with the same form with a note

Maybe I can add an option to the form to indicate that it's a fix

[next cosmos]

How can people check after submitting via the form? Or would the have to either ping you/resubmit with a note?

[outer basin]

I submitted a new clothing option!

I now have 5 outfits submitted
Once the most recent one gets approved, I can ask for the Fashion Designer role

[quaint wigeon]

you made the bug outfit? you're my new fav clothes designer for this game now

the antennae are PEAK

[outer basin]

Oh, tysm!
The antennae didn't end up getting handed out by the type specialist in-game iirc, but I was really hoping someone would enjoy them

I should make a collage of my hats, too

[quaint wigeon]

THEY DON'T?? 😭

[outer basin]

I think you buy them in Azalea Town

My hats

Most of these are waiting on an update to be added to the game

[quaint wigeon]

oh my god I love how so many of them are Pokémon musical accessories

the lil leaf hairclip,,

[outer basin]

Yeah, I figured the musical accessories were an untapped trove of hats, so I went through and converted all the ones I could into hats in a few huge batches

[quaint wigeon]

I gave all my musical Pokémon the leaf hairclip back in Black

when it gets added to the game I can't wait to do it all over again

[round lichen]

The new preview tool is an absolute lifesaver ty so much for creating it!
I was just wondering if the bike graphics can be given additional extras, as I'd love to add a little medkit to the back of the bike for my doctor's outfit? 👀

[outer basin]

I know we were told that we can't change the color of the bike or fishing rod

[round lichen]

That's really good to know, that was going to be my next question hehe

would have been cool to make a biker outfit that changes the bicycle to a motorbike but it makes sense

[next cosmos]

Yeah I'm sorry, but frog doesn't want any alterations to the bike (and fishing rod as real said). I love this though

[round lichen]

Don't worry about it at all, I'm just excited to be able to try make some cosmetics in the first place! Are we still submitting outfit cosmetics via the Drive?

[next cosmos]

There's a form now! #custom-outfits-submissions message
I haven't personally used it since it was created, but apparently its working in making your lives easier

[round lichen]

Ooh that's great, thank you! I WILL get the fashion designer badge!!

[next cosmos]

Hell yeah, good luck!

[outer basin]

So, since submissions are being done with a google form now, how do we check if our submission was approved yet?

[next cosmos]

I guess deep diving into the drive and seeing if it's the approved folder

i dont know if that one has viewing access or not

[outer basin]

There's no approved folder

None that I can see, at least

There's ⁨clothes⁩, ⁨Fixes submissions⁩, ⁨hair⁩, ⁨hat⁩, ⁨NEED CHANGES⁩, ⁨REFUSED⁩, ⁨Trainer ball easter eggs⁩, and ⁨Trainer card backgrounds⁩

Clothes has nothing in it but two google docs
The first one is a guide for making docs, and the second one is a link to the new submission form

I at least know it hasn't been refused?

[next cosmos]

Yep! and I guess approved is a no access folder after all

[outer basin]

So, I guess I just need to wait until the next game update and go search for my newer additions in the game before I can get the role

[sour juniper]

I could probably give public read only access to the accepted folder

[wild fog]

Huh... when working on the gotcha girl hairstyle I accidentally overrod trainer_default. Can someone post a copy of it? I don't want to download the entire game again for a single png

Also is this good enough

[snow escarp]

you can find them in #custom-outfits-submissions you'll just need to remove the bg?

[outer basin]

You should make a spritework thread

[sour juniper]

@snow escarp It looks like you submitted the same files for frostedbeanie and frostedgoggles

[snow escarp]

I'll submit the goggles again then

as a fix

[snow escarp]

submited the fix

[sour juniper]

thank you!

I absolutely love the beanie btw

[rapid elbow]

noibat hat

[outer basin]

Bat hat bat hat!

[quaint wigeon]

Noihat

[rapid elbow]

https://pokemongo.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_avatar_items_and_poses I might make more outfits based on pokemon go outfits

[outer basin]

In case you're wondering, the Glitched Mask is still living up to its name

[rocky solar]

hello

[outer basin]

Hello. Do you have a question regarding the custom outfits in PIF?

[bright crown]

no they just spammed hello in every channel, and got kicked

[twin oyster]

ok im gonna do the grass type specialist with some mayan precolombine outfits but im not sure the male one reads as grass type

[twin oyster]

ok this is clearer as grass if a bit forced

added the leaf logo to the female one 2

added more cause a singular one looked weird

[hollow vale]

didn't we already have a grass expert

unless mine got denied

[twin oyster]

Uh did we? If we did oops

[hollow vale]

yeah i submitted this one a while back

i think we're missing rock(?)

[outer basin]

You both went in a Meganium direction

[twin oyster]

Oh my Bad i though you just did the concepto not the sprite

[hollow vale]

it's got a good palette

[hollow vale]

nah sprite's totally done, it just hasn't been added yet i dont think

its ok!

[twin oyster]

Ok then rock and psychic still up rigth?

[hollow vale]

i dont know about psychic but rock is open

i tried it but i couldnt get something i liked

[twin oyster]

I think i can palette swap + the symbol and some detailes mine into fitting psychic like some shamanistic stuff and oranguru palette

[latent hazel]

oh fuck i forgot i had a psychic type fit design

[twin oyster]

ok the male one is done, the bracelets work much better on darker skintones

[snow escarp]

#1472969684516339855

[viral bobcat]

Just want to know is there a Dawn outfit in the game?

[snow escarp]

I think so? You can check on the wiki

[outer basin]

I think we have the hat, but nobody's gone and made the outfit

Since outfit means like six spritesheets or smth

[viral bobcat]

Thanks

[twin oyster]

yup theres the hat but no to the whole outfit

[snow escarp]

Uh, I thought it was in already

[fathom dew]

Wish I knew enough to try to make some lovely ghost-type based outfits. because from what I seen of the list there ain't many ghost type outfits. (And the ghost-type outfit is not in yet to my knowledge.)

[lone yoke]

hey, you can always try!

you're perfectly welcome to try, fail, and give up.

Because there's a chance you won't fail, and then we'll have another outfit!

Or, better yet, you'll enjoy the process, work to improve, and make even more!

[fathom dew]

Tis is very true

[ionic lichen]

Also keep in mind, if you hit a roadblock or need help or another eye or two or someone with experience, there's a TON of people in the server that are involved and talented in spriting, and specifically outfits. You can always ask for help or input

[twin oyster]

Actually Ghost is one of the types with the most outfits, it's missing the type expert but thats on frog cause the sprite is done its not in the game cause the team hasnt been donr

[fathom dew]

well...I do have one question. someone who has never really done spritework. what would be the best starting point to go off of anyway? just to wet my feet as it were?

[fathom dew]

Really? which one are ghost types because I have looked though the doc

and none of them seem to be ghost type aside for...three of em?

[twin oyster]

The hex maniac, the cloak, the goth, the Ghost expert(not yet), forest king (kinda it's based on trevenant so half Ghost half grass)

[fathom dew]

Oh yaaa...I remember seeing the Forest king. that one looked REALLY good. double thumbs up to evermade that one

[twin oyster]

Well for outfit You need #custom-outfits-submissions but for spriting in general theres #spriting-resources

[ionic lichen]

#spriting-guidelines message

[fathom dew]

Thanks!

You know what we need though? above everything else? as an outfit?

I love this idiot so much.

[twin oyster]

Tbh i was going to run a contest where the win was either guzma or kukui, like the one i made for sada and klara

[fathom dew]

Ooooo. Contests are always fun.

[twin oyster]

I even did the banner but cancelled before starting to run the team aqua or magma grunt because if hoen announcement

Heres the banner

[fathom dew]

I mean entirely fair. evne more so given team Aqua and Magma are...

I mean. next to team skull team Aqua and Magma ARE my favourite team. (So much so that they are the only other Team that I have made an OC for.)

(Speficly on the Aqua side.)

[twin oyster]

Maybe i'll run the contest after all... In a couple of months

[fathom dew]

[latent hazel]

I made both the ghost type fit (frog add it in ffs /lhj) and the forest king set!

[fathom dew]

Both look really good you did great.

[halcyon grove]

I finally gave him a team for it

So maybe it’ll be in the next update. I don’t remember if we ever decided where it was going tho

[outer basin]

You gotta put it in the haunted house so people have a reason to go there other than the glitched Mimikyu quest

[bright crown]

Lavender tunnel, where the duskull mask is

[halcyon grove]

Ooo I didn’t even think about the haunted house

@sour juniper more ideas for where to put the ghost expert if you didn’t figure somewhere out yet

[ionic lichen]

It would be awesome if an NPC showed up in the haunted house after Mimikyu was caught and the NPC had interesting commentary about the house and stuff. Similar to the NPCs around the abandoned mart in Alola (also with Mimikyu)

[outer basin]

I was thinking something similar to that, but all you have to do is go in and come out of the basement again

Since the Mimikyu quest is glitched, it can be hard to catch Mimikyu, and finding the type expert is only half the Ghost monotype trainer quest

[latent hazel]

reminds me i need to finish the ghost hat but ive been dealing with artist hell (strained me wrists again)

[outer basin]

You still have to win

[outer basin]

I at least submitted the white hand from Lavender Town

[latent hazel]

found them, wanted to make wisps the hat

originally had a witch's hat but that doesn't fit "ghost" much

[outer basin]

Like a ghostly version of Sabrina's Poké Balls

[outer basin]

I submitted a witch hat with the Gen 5 props hats I did

[latent hazel]

yep

[outer basin]

People can mix and match their edgy outfits to their hearts' content

[latent hazel]

lmao the original design had emo anime hair

[outer basin]

Ghost is a very anime type anyways

[latent hazel]

im tired, man

[latent hazel]

can somebody recap how to properly export these pngs? I can only work in 20 minutes at a time and i just
wont want to waste my energy relearning and fucking up /lh im just not feeling the best

[snow escarp]

you upscale by 2x,
name of each is :

• clothes_walk_X
• clothes_run_X
• clothes_bike_X
• clothes_fish_X
• clothes_surf_X
• clothes_dive_X
• clothes_trainer_X
  with X being the id of the outfit

[latent hazel]

thank you 👍

[sour juniper]

iirc that's where I put her

[latent hazel]

ok got the clothes done, gonna submit them (checked them in the animation player)

this outfit should be submitted

[ionic lichen]

It would be SO COOL if there were more "hats" added in the future that gave the character floating stuff around them, that's so fun

[twin oyster]

ok i made the walking sheet for the female psychic one, and had the male one done already so we really just missing rock

[latent hazel]

I still want to sprite my psychic one

[twin oyster]

i mean ypur free to

we could have a completelly diferent set for hoen... eventually

[twin oyster]

ok my psychic type fit was sent

hairs and hats chosen semi random from what i had

[twin oyster]

btw i was checking something else and i realized ice and electric dont have the description the other do

[latent hazel]

oh i did electric, i can make some shit up

A spikey jacket that crackles with thunderous vigor. It captures the essence of Electric type Pokemon.

[twin oyster]

@spiral dock how bout: "A cool winter gear, give a chill vibe that captures the essence of ice-type Pokemon"

[hollow vale]

look gary thats my outfit

the mask looks so cool

[spiral dock]

awesome!

[somber root]

i remember seeing jessie and james hairstyles already in the game files. no chance they will be available in the future?

[outer basin]

I think it's spelled spiky

[latent hazel]

my stupid spell che- is that guy's name loli what the fuck

[outer basin]

That word also refers to a specific fashion style

[latent hazel]

lolita fashion doesn't use the acronym

[twin oyster]

i mean the name still comes from the novel which... yeah

[twin oyster]

@next cosmos sorry to give you more work but dont know who else can add this 2 descriptions to the outfits

[outer basin]

It has sort of a space captain feel
I like it

[hollow vale]

Grass has a flower crown!

[latent hazel]

hat and hair?

[next cosmos]

Either me or frog can, but in the end everything gets the finnal approval from him. I'll bring this up to him 👍

[granite jetty]

Mm the hat feels kinda low?

[latent hazel]

oh its meant to be a transparent visor with the mind's eye on it, meant to be over the forehead

[snow escarp]

is the green part of the hat or the hair?

[latent hazel]

hair

[snow escarp]

#1475924511265128552

[soft ember]

I think I might try my luck with spriting outfits

Any tips y'all experienced fashion designers are willing to give before I burn my hand?

[lone yoke]

copy what you can

there are 96 overworld sprites to draw but, so long as you keep in mind stuff like "what parts of the outfit are asymmetrical" and "what parts of the outfit sway with movement" you should be able to shave off a solid chunk of em

[latent hazel]

the overworlds can look a little shit its all good /j

[hollow vale]

Avoid putting too much detail in. While it's cool to add designs and such, they can lose their readability when not at 2x resolution.

[outer basin]

Your ability to design OW sprites depends on your ability to simplify designs

The fullsize trainer sprite works about the same way as fusion spriting, but when it comes to small details, you can cut corners to make it the right size or proportion, such as not outlining something

Keep in mind that you should still outline any significant parts of the material, such as a shirt or larger accessories like a poncho
However, you don't need to outline details like bag straps or the soles of shoes

Keep in mind that the smaller your sprite is, the more distinct your colors need to be. Sprites that are small on the screen like OW sprites blend the pixels together very easily. You can get away with colors that are more distinct from each other than you would normally use, but colors that are too similar can give a washed-out feel

[latent hazel]

important: make sure outfits work with all skin colors!

sometimes an outline color might be too close to a skin tone's shade and it'd look wonky

[snow escarp]

Oh I should do that when I get home
There's a good chance it doesn't work well with darker skin tones

[snow escarp]

uh it actually looks good 👀

[soft ember]

Made the full dragonite outfit set from Unite but I want to make sure it's accepted before doing the overworld sprites

Oh. Uhm

[latent hazel]

huh?

[twin oyster]

well at the end is frogman that accepts stuff but in general this follow all the rules so it should be accepted

[soft ember]

Oooo that's good to know

I'm waiting patiently for frog's response

[hollow vale]

It'll be fine. Anything from Pokemon media is OK to add - I think it's stuff from outside sources that isn't allowed or grey area.

It's how we have Miku in the game, btw - There's an official collaboration with Pokemon and the variants of Miku we've gotten appear in the Project Voltage stuff.

But something like Luffy wouldn't be allowed explicitly because there isn't a Pokemon-centric version, just some artwork with him and Pikachu(?) together done by Oda(?)

I think we have some other Unite trainer outfits and holowear inspired items in the game already.

[sour juniper]

Looks great!

[hollow vale]

I sure do hate spriting really long hair

Was trying to go for a Sadako/Kayako inspired hairstyle for the creepy ones ™ out there, but I fear it's a little too long to be in the game

[hollow vale]

[latent hazel]

holy shit

[hollow vale]

is that a guzzlord fit? rad

[soft ember]

So turns out the testing tool doesn't work on mobile

[soft ember]

Oooo where is this from?

[latent hazel]

guzzlord portal in ultra s/m

[outer basin]

Cool
You could give the Trainer a different body type with that

And I'm sure people will love the gas mask

[soft ember]

A black gas mask? like the spriter?

[soft ember]

I humbly ask to know if any of you know a solution

[outer basin]

SOMEONE has to do it
Let Gasmask be able to exist in PIF

[outer basin]

You can compile gifs in photopea

It's more work than the testing tool though

Each frame has to be on its own layer, and the layer names have to start with _a_ in order for it to recognize it as an animation frame

[soft ember]

Ohh

Might test it later if I don't find anything better

Thx

You know nevermind, I just found out ACTUALLY CAN drag and drop files and photos on mobile??

Live and learn

[ionic lichen]

@tawdry oar you have fans

[hollow vale]

this set came out really cute ❤️

the hair ties it together

[tawdry oar]

If custom outfits weren't such a pain to make, I would have added a gasmask myself already tbh I won't stop you from making one. here are some of the designs I have, but just a normal run of the mill gasmask would already make me more than happy. I am aware these designs are very extra

[hollow vale]

A gasmask in general shouldn't be too hard since that's only 4 frames

[lone yoke]

they're also largely symmetrical so you'll likely be able to just copy and flip the side frames

[hollow vale]

Submitted the mod bob hairstyle to the drive since there's not a form for hair yet

[ionic lichen]

We also need a Bane version too

[twin oyster]

no we cant do references

[ionic lichen]

It's not a reference if it's just a different type of gas mask

[soft ember]

Outfit folks, do any of you know what this hair style should be called? It is part of the dragonite set but I'm sure it has an actual name instead of "dragonite hair"

[twin oyster]

aparently is called the flick up

[soft ember]

Oh boy...

It apparently is also called flare out or flipped ends

flickup seems to be the accurate name for it, thank you for your research :0

[hollow vale]

I actually just made this exact hairstyle. It looks different from the Dragonite one though and has a different ID!

Mine is 'mod bob'

#custom-outfits-discussion message

The one you made looks kind of like Sabrina's hair or the skiiers from DP/BDSP

[soft ember]

Ohhh

[hollow vale]

Mine looks different from yours, so you should still submit it

[soft ember]

Hooray

I'll just name it flareout

[hollow vale]

good name!

[soft ember]

#1477549965428654313 it's my first time so feel free to punch me around with feedbacks

[hollow vale]

Have you tested it in https://outfits-tool.infinitefusion.net/ ?

[hollow vale]

paxton wig

[hollow vale]

Workin on the rest of Paxton and Harmony's outfits now. I assume they're OK to add since Z-A is still Kalos

I'm actually not sure how the outfits for protags past 7th gen would be implemented

[hollow vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1282901145555177482/1287274649087901709/Tumblr_l_661075086771670.gif

[soft ember]

Very nice

[hollow vale]

Not looking forward to the clohtes sprites

[ocean wing]

Oh I was thinking we could have the gen 10 outfits but makes sense if that's included in the ‘no gen 8+’ content

[outer basin]

No, the "no gen 8+" applies to things that would need mechanics coded in, like catchable Pokémon

[ocean wing]

Yeah I know was just curious about the #custom-outfits-discussion message

[bronze blade]

Question

[latent hazel]

this is near perfectly on beat to the song im listening to lol

[bronze blade]

How do you get clothes in the debug menu

[outer basin]

Just going through the options, it looks like it's under Player options... and then Set Player Outfit, and then you have to know the outfit id to enter

I don't see any way to add hats and clothes to your collection

However, if there's an obtainable clothing item in the game that you want, you can use debug to easily fulfill whatever the obtainment method is

[lusty oasis]

You can't

[lusty oasis]

That's from Pokemon Essentials, not for PIF's custom outfits.

[outer basin]

Well, the wiki should at least list all the obtainment methods

"Show the npc a Trevenant" is pretty easy when you can just debug a trevenant in

[hollow vale]

It is an interesting thing to think about

Hey @sour juniper - Sorry to ping ya, but we were curious if you had an idea how outfits for the protagonists from gen 8 onwards might be obtainable in the game, should they be made

I wanted to make the ScarVi school uniforms at some point too

For something like the Z-A outfits I'm working on, I would personally have the conditions be to show someone a Pokemon that can mega-evolve in Kalos, but

[sour juniper]

Once you complete all of the regional outfit quests, you unlock all the outfits for gen 8+

[hollow vale]

oooh

cool

[latent hazel]

i still really want an outfit randomizer (like the item and pokemon randomizers), i didnt see one the last time i played

[twin oyster]

i really dont like either version but im out of ideas

[hollow vale]

i like the fossil themeing though

might be a good direction to go in

[twin oyster]

yeah i like that but not the rest of the outfit well the pants and boots are ok the give the hard terrain work for the rock type

[outer basin]

Maybe you could add some tools strapped to the side?

[twin oyster]

yeah maybe but still i need to redesign the shirt and vest

[sour juniper]

@hollow vale There seems to be a positioning issue with the fishing sprite for your moddress outfit.

[hollow vale]

That's odd. Lemme fix that!

[hollow vale]

Mine loads fine in the tool :0

just in case i uploaded a bad file here is mine

oh wait frog i see what you did, that's the walk sprite

[sour juniper]

Ah I see. Is it possible that you uploaded the wrong file for fishing in the form? Because the file called clothes_fish that was in the drive is definitely the walking one

Anyway I fixed it manually, no need to resubmit!

[hollow vale]

Yeah I might have accidentally uploaded the wrong file. 🙂‍↕️ It happens!

[snow escarp]

submited the outfit for hero, there's no submtion form for hair for now right?

[sour juniper]

Not yet, I still need to make it

[next cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-speech-bubble-kitty-bother-bothering-gif-25862717

In case I haven't given you enough work

But for real, I'll make the form aspect if you make a script for it like hats

[sour juniper]

That would be helpful

[next cosmos]

Gotta take care of our fashion designers are outfits taken care of too or do they need a form as well?

[sour juniper]

Yess the form for outfits is already live! It's just the hairstyles that remains

[next cosmos]

Alrighty cool beans. Taking care of something and I'll get on it

[twin oyster]

nice im still stuck on the rock expert design but ill make some hairs maybe thatll get me un stuck

[sour juniper]

Take your time! ||I still have yet to decide what the reward will be for beating all of them and rock is the last one so it buys me some time ||

[next cosmos]

hell yeah! Also We still need the oras aqua/magma grunt M&F outfits as well if anyone wants to work on those. Not needed for the demo

[twin oyster]

naveen hair is ready, ill keep it till the form is ready

[halcyon grove]

-# ||Did we finalize the rock expert? I don't remember ||

[twin oyster]

no its the last one, the one im stuck with the design

[halcyon grove]

I meant the team

[twin oyster]

no clue :V

[sour juniper]

Not as far as I know

[halcyon grove]

I remember Pory coming up with smth but don't think we ever discussed it further

[next cosmos]

yeah I remember the dinosaur talk, and a cool idea you shot down

[hollow vale]

|| it should be a cool hat ||

[snow escarp]

It should be a ||frog hat||

Maybe an ||Arceus (or silvally ) themed outfit?||

[twin oyster]

the tera stellar hat

[next cosmos]

Hey gummy! Did you ever submit it? I'm having issues finding it 🤔

Just want to make sure there aren't any issues with the drive

[hollow vale]

I think I submitted it through the google formn

should be under magmarsef

[next cosmos]

Alrighty! Let me take another look. Frog was saying he didn't have a female, but I knew that was wrong

[hollow vale]

I have it ready if I somehow forgot to submit it tho

[next cosmos]

Found it! He probably forgot to fill out the important sheet, I'll have it taken care of

[hollow vale]

[next cosmos]

Sorry for the heart attack, I almost had one myself

[hollow vale]

it should come with the clodsire btw

[tiny karma]

imagining people seeing that before tera stellar wa srevealed,
whatcha got there?
A shiny

[outer basin]

I realized my collection of hats was missing a few
I actually have made 55 hats

[tiny karma]

something something tf2

[twin oyster]

Ok but the censored ones on top looks hilarious

[outer basin]

Sometimes I sketch clothes on my trainer model so that I can get feedback other than "heh. naked"

[hollow vale]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress-2-soldier-tf2-hat-hats-gif-8222798267373806638

hats are so fun

[twin oyster]

ok rock type outfit done :V

ok just kidding but i might be masochistic cause yes ill do them... eventually

[full quartz]

heh. naked

[twin oyster]

i just realize i forgot bug

[twin oyster]

ok done they are just recolors but still

[twin oyster]

hey @sour juniper i just sended u 18 outfits just cram them in the stores this shouldnt have special properties or quest

[sour juniper]

Oh my god 😮

[next cosmos]

its like everyone wearing their favorite band or sports tee

[halcyon grove]

Mad lad

[twin oyster]

Hey frog is using headbutt outside of battle in the game cause if so im gonna make a hay that is a cartoony head bumb that u can get by headbutting a tree

[bright crown]

Yes and no, the option shows up but does nothing as it's a leftover from essentials

[sour juniper]

hahahahh I love it but no, it's not n the game unfortunately

[twin oyster]

Ok

[sour juniper]

Good news! Hairstyles can now be submitted via a form, just like clothes and hats!
https://forms.gle/CdnAep5dunv9ZXgL9

[next cosmos]

On another note, some people submitted their files wrong for hairs and they were rejected, so please take a look to correct them. Also it turns out that someone took the master google doc for "how to submit hair" and translated it into spanish without telling us. They completely overwrote the entire file, and we had to go back to a previous version from before December. The google doc is open for editing due to being located in the submissions folder, but please do not edit it. If you want to make a translation, you need to make a copy of that doc and send it to me or frog

[hollow vale]

Do you have a list of hairstyles that were rejected by chance?

[next cosmos]

i think evergarden and possibly one other one? it would be in the rejected folder in the drive

[sour juniper]

Never mind, not yet!

[hollow vale]

ight so none of mine good

[next cosmos]

Hey guys I need help. What would you call this hairstyle? Someone in another channel suggested Big Locs or Tied-back Wicks
edit: went with Tied-back Wicks

[stable maple]

I still think gholdengo fits best

[next cosmos]

Gholdengo would be good if it was longer and styled in different directions

[stable maple]

Where can I find the base player model? (Might be good to pin a pic of it actually)

[next cosmos]

Everything you need for character creation with instructions is in the channel right above here https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1324876611119743087

Good luck for outfits, that's like 90 frames

[stable maple]

I am him

[stable maple]

but 80x80 is the rght size I should work in?

[restive whale]

this clothes making concept is so cool, can anyone participate??

[next cosmos]

Yes, for the trainer sprite. Work in 80x80 and then export 160x160. For body, all sprite animation/actionss spritesheets (walk, bike, fish, etc) ahould be worked in 160x160 and th4en exported in 320x320. And only export the outfit, not the template behind it. It would look like this if done correctly

[next cosmos]

Of course!! We always welcome more character customization makers. Hats are the easiest to start off with, followed by hair. Outfits are a lot more challenging, but we desperately need more

[stable maple]

I am kinda tempted to just copy and past bills face ngl /j

"Bill mask"

[next cosmos]

Frog does have to approve everything that comes in

[stable maple]

Okay I have decided, I will make it inspired by hitmonchan, but I wont give it hitmonchan details, so it will just be a boxing outfit inspired by hitmonchan (with details I mean the dress thingy he has)

[restive whale]

awesome! where could i find some basic info and a base to begin with?? :P

[next cosmos]

That would be so sick!! I look forward to seeing it. When you make things, there's a tag for it in spritework for feedback, and the regulars in this channel can help as well

[next cosmos]

Right in here! https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1324876611119743087

[stable maple]

I will try my hardest, never done outfit ever (only that buzzwole mask thing) but hey I gotta learn somehow

[next cosmos]

It can be a bit to get into, but once you got the flow of it, it gets a lot easier

[stable maple]

I should finish my fusion sprite first actually, I dont want this banger of a concept I made to go to waste. Okay ill stop typing here now its getting off topic

[restive whale]

lovely, thanks!!

[next cosmos]

Also free to use sources (and artists who give permission) are okay as long as you credit them in the submission form where your username goes. Like if you rip hitmonchan's skirt from a game freak sprite, it should be eminemace & Game Freak

Can't wait to see what you guys do!

[stable maple]

okay the "skirt" is supposed to resemble the shorts

[next cosmos]

oh!! and before I forget @stable maple @restive whale, frog made a preview tool that's amazing for your progress https://outfits-tool.infinitefusion.net/

[restive whale]

that looks so awesome, quick question, on which base do we have to design hair/hats on?

[next cosmos]

So for hats, you'll only use the far left column. Honestly I thought there was a sperate one available for it, so use my personal one
Hair would be what you sent, all 16 of those frames.

Both use that big character template!
All sprites need the overworld sprites and a trainer sprite

And something important with hair, you need to submit the same hair in the base 4 different colors

[restive whale]

ohhhh, got it

[restive whale]

whatcha mean by that?

[next cosmos]

For roxanne, I just submitted all of these files since it's required. These are the base 4 default colors, and players can use these 4 template shades to mess around with different hues to find the perfect color

[restive whale]

OHHH so dis? :0

[next cosmos]

yep!

[restive whale]

awesome! thanks a lot^^

will probably start with a hat

ah another question :

what kind of hats can i do lol?

[next cosmos]

Of course! And others will help in here too, just need to wait a bit since its not as active and flowing like other channels. Honestly I have a ton of work I need to get done at the moment

[restive whale]

ah yea i see

[restive whale]

bump to dis question hehe

[stable maple]

was thinking this (not finalized justthe general concept

[restive whale]

in need of an answer

[twin oyster]

Hey ill take over from paya here

[twin oyster]

You can do anything that isnt a direct reference to another property outside of Pokémon, so u can do a straw her but it cant be luffys hat (also one is already done)

[twin oyster]

Also paya i guess those be cornrows but fluffy cornrows to diferenciate it from the one i did

[restive whale]

ohh perfect, thanks!!

[snow escarp]

Also avoid doing something that hat been made before

[restive whale]

where could i find the full list of already existing hats

[snow escarp]

there's the wiki but it's only up to the latest update 😔
I don't think there's a way to see accepted hat/hair/outfit that aren't in

[restive whale]

aww not conventional

[snow escarp]

you can look in spritework but it's not very practical 😔

IG you could always ask here if it has been made before

[restive whale]

has a dracovish biting head been made lol

[snow escarp]

pretty sure no

[restive whale]

awesome

ill take a shot at that

[restive whale]

does the mon the hat is based on need to be in pif?

[snow escarp]

no you can reference newer gen with clothing even if they will never get added

[normal socket]

Do any of you amazing individuals know if there is a beach/ surfer outfit somewhere?

[twin oyster]

Well the water expert is a beach outfit

[latent hazel]

when was the last time in game outfits were updated?

[hollow vale]

afaik they get updated everytime PIF does

but that's a @sour juniper question

[twin oyster]

so frog is the hair form ready or not?

[sour juniper]

It's live yeah

[twin oyster]

👍

[next cosmos]

yeah someone said it was good to go, and then forgot to allow more than one file forgot hairs have 8 files total

[twin oyster]

lol

im sending naveen hair any idea what i should call it, im thinking accesoried corn rows, since he is a fashion designer the description is going to be like "long corn rows with accesories, the last in kalosian fashion "

[next cosmos]

Hell yeah!!! We definitely need more of this type of hair for representation, I'm so happy you're making this!

[hollow vale]

It's really hard to get textured hair into pixels, so I commend anyone who tries.

[zealous adder]

im up for making hats for the new game, but in the google sheet there isnt a section for them

where should i submit them?

also im using libresprite any specific canvas/image dimensions i should follow?

[hollow vale]

You should take a gander at #custom-outfits-submissions

That has everything you need including templates

[twin oyster]

So should we add their hair :v

[zealous adder]

im just a little confused about the hat template the template has the trainer on it but i took a look at the submissions they dont have the trainer. so should i draw on top of the trainer or?

[next cosmos]

You need the trainer in addition to the overworld sprites. Remember to not draw on top of the template. Its there to help you as an under layer, but submissions need to be the hat only

[twin oyster]

you should draw in a layer over the trainer and then turn off the trainer layer to export we dont need to see the trainer or the background in the hat, theyre there just so you know where to put the hats in frame

[twin oyster]

doing clive hair lol

[twin oyster]

ok clive hair sended

[hollow vale]

that's awesome

[hollow vale]

paxton outfit yeeted into the drive