custom-outfits-discussion

[lilac anchor]

All 4 base colors must be done iirc

I skimmed the hair section since rn im focused on clothes

[slim turtle]

This is abt the final version before I start copy pasting colors, any reccs?

[lilac anchor]

Where it sits on the back sprite looks a little high conpared to the rest

[outer basin]

I think it's a bit odd how the pouf in the back overlaps the head on both sides

It looks like it should be just touching the head instead of wrapping around the head

[slim turtle]

Wdym,? Like, in the first row placement?

[outer basin]

Hm
Do you mind if I sketch a little doodle?

[slim turtle]

I'll send how it looks a lil lower, I just counted 7 pixels on each and went "yea seems even"

[outer basin]

I'm sometimes bad at explaining art things with words

[slim turtle]

Feel free! I dont mind

[next cosmos]

Dont forget, you can also make a character customization thread in #1050404143807873157

[slim turtle]

Ohh, didn't know that thanks paya

[next cosmos]

no problem! it could help to get outside help too c:

[slim turtle]

I'll move it over there so it doesn't clog this channel

[next cosmos]

be sure to drop the link of the thread in here so everyone who was helping can find it!

[slim turtle]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1387491674711920720

[lilac anchor]

I will also do that soonish now that I am almost done with walk

[twin oyster]

hey @next cosmos could u pin this?

[slim turtle]

Off topic, but I wanted to take a shot at lusamine's hair, eventually would it be alright to add the green diamond clip she has in the back?

[naive niche]

damn that hair is wild

[slim turtle]

Ik, I also saw some other custom sprite of it and they look cool

[twin oyster]

yeah small stuf like that can be part of the hair, thers hair that only works with hair bands

[next cosmos]

done 👍

am I an editor on it? or is it everyone?

[twin oyster]

everyone

[next cosmos]

cool beans

[lilac anchor]

You have my blessing on that, looks hard as all hell

[lilac anchor]

Looks good, I still cant get passed the hair thing though that is wild

[next cosmos]

Btw I fixed the backwards R on the one frame of the female rocket uniform whenever frog updates the game next it'll be in there

[lilac anchor]

Should just made the R always backwards instead

[next cosmos]

would have been more work

[lilac anchor]

But funni

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1387500564090458162
I posted if anyone here has anything to add

[lone yoke]

just replace it with a symmetrical letter

Give me a rocket uniform with the letter M on it

[lilac anchor]

Team Aocket

[outer basin]

Yes
Join Mirror Team Rocket

That is a real thing, btw

[lilac anchor]

That... what?

[outer basin]

One episode of the Pokémon anime introduced another dimension called the Mirror World

In the mirror world, there's a Mirror Team Rocket, who are good guys

Jessie, James, and Meowth in that world are "the Heroes of Justice" who are incredibly competant

[lilac anchor]

Do they look the same just with mirrored R's?

[outer basin]

Yes

[lilac anchor]

Huh

[outer basin]

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mirror_Team_Rocket

[lilac anchor]

If they looked more distinct, the outfits coulda been a nice reward for ratting out team rocket

[outer basin]

I mean, you still see a mirrored R on your uniform at the start of every battle you wear it

Since the clothes sprites are just mirrored so the trainer can face the other way

Mirror Team Rocket lives on

[lilac anchor]

Lol true

Another idea: to get jessie/james uniforms you have to fail a rocket mission

[outer basin]

Jessie and James are in PIF
*sorta

There are two Rocket grunts you fight in a double battle at Mt Ember that have the names Jessie and James
Sadly, they don't look like Jessie and James or talk like them

They do use fusions of the Pokémon those two use in the anime

[lilac anchor]

I think I remember that yeah

[outer basin]

If someone made those outfits, I wonder if they'd wear them

[lilac anchor]

Maybe, I dont plan on spriting them unless I am given a good reason to though lol

[outer basin]

Me neither
I do have an outfit lined up to finish eventually, but this month is my spriting hiatus, and I don't plan on working especially hard on outfits until I finish my typedex

[lilac anchor]

typedex?

[outer basin]

Make a sprite for every type combo in the game

[lilac anchor]

Oh, neat

Once I get N and ORAS Aqua Male done ill probably find a hat or 2 to make

[slim turtle]

Im not sure how the animation system works so someone lmk, is the box in blue the "default" or idle stance, and the models to the right the running? I ask cause I wanna do like "waving in the wind as running" hair but dont wanna have it look weird.

[outer basin]

Hats are way less taxing

[outer basin]

Correct

[slim turtle]

Perfect, thx!

(So hypothetically, I could make hair that goes straight horizontal back, like you're absolutely sprinting....)

[outer basin]

You could, but it might be a bit jarring?

The sprite returns to the first frame once the player stops

[slim turtle]

True, true unfortunately

But I think it would be funny aha

[hollow vale]

Ooh always nice to see more textured hair

[slim turtle]

Yes I love dithering on textures!

Btw, if anyone has any feedback i threw this in sprites
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1387522424718884904

[slim turtle]

Double posting here, but if anyone has any thoughts Id appreciate- Taking a crack at lusamine but it's rly hard to get readability and the shapes right, but it's suprisingly decent so far

[lilac anchor]

That green is a bit intense, is the clip green?

[twin oyster]

Its going well add border and detail to the clip

[slim turtle]

O yeah, mb didn't finish that part

[slim turtle]

Yep, though probably darker than what I picked.

[lilac anchor]

Did the surf sprites, though I am not satisfyed with the sideways ones

I did not think the side surf sprites would be feustrating for me

[hollow vale]

I think some of the outlines towards the top are very harsh

but its a good start

[twin oyster]

doing the hair in the blonde colors first could posible help see this things

[latent hazel]

?

?

[lilac anchor]

Its gonna be wallace for water gym but this is neat

[latent hazel]

oh

[slim turtle]

Probably, Im used to workin in black but Ill try it out

[latent hazel]

oh i can work with that

idk

scarf maybe?

[twin oyster]

r u sure?

[slim turtle]

Ooo scarf is cool

[latent hazel]

is the scarf a good idea

id do the hat but i like custom pieces

[lilac anchor]

Frog said so

Unless frog pulled a boss move and baited #pif-hoenn-discussion

[slim turtle]

Can I get away w the lighting on this? Prob if I adjust the scalp, no?
I was lookin thru other sprites and most of them seemed to come from directly above, I don't know if the whole "light from the top left" also applies to hair
(don't mind the bands they're placeholder colors lmao)

[twin oyster]

the left tail needs fixing the ligth is weird in there

[slim turtle]

Yea, I was lazy and copy paste/flip to see

Although is the light for sprites just supposed to come like, above the sprite like sunlight?

[twin oyster]

yeah i notice is not to visible in the black hair but in ligther ones is going to be noticeable

[twin oyster]

yup but then youll have to fix the head ligth

[slim turtle]

Aight, I can do that

I'll adjust the scalp and rebalance the rest of the hair

[slim turtle]

Should look a lil better

Oh wait, what format should exports be in??

[next cosmos]

you sould find that here https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1324876611119743087

[twin oyster]

png at 2x pixel size

[twin oyster]

hey paya could u check if this ones go well with the hat

[next cosmos]

looks like the colors are barely off, but so far its not bad. I'd have to adjust the hoods to match better when it's done

one second, let me get the hat files

[twin oyster]

yes pls is easier that way

ill ajust my colors since i have only done the walking one

[hollow vale]

is there anything else that hoenn needs besides gym hats :0

i wouldnt mind helping sproot some stuff once the nurses are done

[twin oyster]

yup heres the list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UB7niajc-RYRSKwejldXYcWlrGONxt8C26urQP999uE/edit?gid=507187383#gid=507187383

werent u also making the rock type expert?

[hollow vale]

i was collabing with someone on it but im not sure if i can do their design justice 😅

[next cosmos]

• Magma RSE
• Magma ORAS
• Aqua RSE
• Aqua ORAS

[twin oyster]

tnks

[hollow vale]

@full quartz do you want to post the rock expert outfit so they can see it

[next cosmos]

you're welcome, let me get the trainer exports too

[full quartz]

yeah gimme a sec

i had to go find it

[hollow vale]

how do we feel about this design

[twin oyster]

ok yeah i can see why thats hard

[hollow vale]

also for flannery, im thinking a flame beanie would be kind of cool
or torkoal hat

[twin oyster]

godammit discord only lets me save as webp and that screws the colors

[twin oyster]

yeah that be cool

[hollow vale]

put myself down for that + tate and liza's

[next cosmos]

Tell me about it, completely ruined my error report flow had to start opening all images in browser and click and dragging to my desktop

[hollow vale]

norman is so... normal... its gonna be hard to think of anything for him

put myself down for the female magma uniforms as well 👍

finishing the nurses soon ™ and then i'll get those bad boys out

[twin oyster]

o yeah about that we though of a plan the other day but it would need @next cosmos and frogman to authorize the plan was basically that the player starts with just the oras hats and norman rewards u with the rse hats saying something like they were your old hats that he kept

[next cosmos]

• Magma RSE
• Magma ORAS
• Aqua RSE
• Aqua ORAS

[hollow vale]

oh that's cute actually

[next cosmos]

Ooooh love it!

[hollow vale]

also ty for dropping the hats, that'll make things a bit easier

[twin oyster]

well then just frogman left to convince and seeing what he let me get away with in jhoto i doubt he be against it

[hollow vale]

if i dont start on the female magma outfits sometime in the next few days, feel free to poke me

[next cosmos]

no problem! The red for the magma hats are the same, but the horns are different colors

[lilac anchor]

I really like the idea for giving out the old hats, its such a cute little interaction

[twin oyster]

ok prepares pointy branch

[hollow vale]

yeah i see it! very slight difference

do we want booba for the female outfits tho

[next cosmos]

And for the magma hats, I'm going to adjust them to fit the body sprites. Lets try to keep them the same!

[hollow vale]

wasnt sure since the femme rocket outfit does have a bit more of a chest on it

[twin oyster]

yeah that why were using the colors from yours

[twin oyster]

yes but just slight

[next cosmos]

I mean adjust the bottom part so that they physically connect to the outfits. I'm debating on making the horns the same shade to allow mixing and matching, but that's for future me to decide

[hollow vale]

ofc, it wouldnt be more than this

(literally like 2 pixels and shading differences lol)

[twin oyster]

yup

[hollow vale]

[twin oyster]

yeah i think this are the biggest boobs ive put on an outfit and are also 2 pixels

[hollow vale]

the "chest" i use is i think a traced base edit of the swimsuit that someone made aaages ago

[twin oyster]

o i shoud save that instead of guessing boob size everytime i need to make a female

[hollow vale]

feel free to use it haha

i did it for the same reason, boobs are hard to figure out

[full quartz]

🤯

[lilac anchor]

Ok so I have a question that im not sure where to put, well 2

1. I have my mannequin model, would replacing a skin tone with it count under the no modifying rules?
2. I also briefly replaced another outfit with the N outfit im working on to test the walking animation does that also apply to the rules?

[latent hazel]

neither of those seem.... to break any rules? im confused

you can modify the game however you want for personal use and changing the skin tone while spriting or playing is like

fine

[lilac anchor]

I was just curious cause its technically modifying game files

[twin oyster]

the no mods rules just void your extended guarranty a.k.a stops tech support from helping but that really isnt going to afect

[lilac anchor]

Thats what I figured I just wanted to be sure

[latent hazel]

modifying game files is how we test outfits in the first place lol

i just get mal to do it for me cause im lazy /hj

[twin oyster]

actually i keep the outfit demo version so i dont have to mod the files

[latent hazel]

oh

[lilac anchor]

Also, im giving N a special fishing rod that uses wood colors to make it look more...
natural

[latent hazel]

i dont think we're allowed to modify the bike/fishing pole sprite itself for outfits sadly

[lilac anchor]

Oh, dang

[twin oyster]

this cause thethey change depending on which your using (acro bike and old/good/super rod)

[lilac anchor]

Huh

acro bike exists?

[twin oyster]

i dont remember tbh

migth have been removed

[lilac anchor]

My pun turned to tragedy

[twin oyster]

btw just to prove that modding graphics really means nothing this is how my game looks

[lilac anchor]

Custom bg?

I should know, I was literally JUST in the sewers

[twin oyster]

yup entire set of custom bg

[full quartz]

JUST TO CLARIFY

modifying files DOES NOT EQUAL changing images within the files

the files we're talking about are ACTUAL code

switching around images doesnt exclude you from support but modifying the code will

[lilac anchor]

Alright, good to know

[full quartz]

🫡

[lilac anchor]

Sk I could go ham with changing like enemy trainers and whatnot just dont touch anything else

[full quartz]

yep

[lilac anchor]

Anything else being anything that isnt a sprite replace

[full quartz]

pretty much correct

[lilac anchor]

Time to go make the rival a toddler

[twin oyster]

@next cosmos

[next cosmos]

Hey! oooooh nice, let me pop that in

It looks so good!

[lilac anchor]

Lookin great

[outer basin]

Do you think we should have this pinned here? It seems like a recurring topic.

[full quartz]

someone (or myself) could write up a more official thing but not a terrble idea

[lilac anchor]

Got fishimg done

[covert falcon]

Might try aqua clothes 🤔

[twin oyster]

The list of needed hoenn clothes are pinned

[covert falcon]

(WIP)

[covert falcon]

I'll take the rse aqua clothes

[lilac anchor]

Is the first model on the surf template supposed to be different from the other 3?

There are 2 pixels that arent on the other 3

[twin oyster]

Mmm no i don't think so... Bit show where cause i never noticed

[lilac anchor]

Each hand has an extra pixel on the sprite on the left

[twin oyster]

ª yeah probably shouldn't be there or should be in the 3rd one 2

[lilac anchor]

Its not on the third, only the first

[twin oyster]

Weird

[lilac anchor]

Got dive done, almost there

[silent parcel]

Hey, is there any way to use the Jessie hair provided in the files? I wanna b to a team rocket dedicated run but don't know how to be able to use that file.'

[lilac anchor]

Surf?

Looking good so far

[lilac anchor]

Just gotta do run then polish everything up for N

[covert falcon]

🤔

[slim turtle]

Looking goooooodd!!!

[twin oyster]

looks good but im just going to point out paya already had the hats done u just needed to make the outft

[outer basin]

I like it

I was gonna say that you should AA the pants stripe, but now I see you've already done that

[covert falcon]

I just its not actually stripes, but circles

[hollow vale]

Slowly making progress on the OWs for Nurse Joy

I told myself I'd be working on Magma by this week but nope Some IRL stuff got in the way

[cedar sail]

Well, thank you guys for working on the team Aqua and Magma designs. I wanted to make a combined outfit of the two for the first game but kinda suck at designing pixel-art.

this is what I managed to do (XD)

If the game would have a option to pick sections of clothes would be cool.

[hollow vale]

Sadly that's way too much to implement. We'd have to make so many more sheets and make sure each piece is compatible with each other.

[cedar sail]

I understand.

[hollow vale]

Just one full outfit is several spritesheets :/

That said, if you want to edit the things in game for personal use only, you absolutely could

[cedar sail]

if possible/agreed with the artists. I can try and make combined versions of the outfits for a post-game, like "Former members of Team Aqua and Magma and started a go-fund me campaign to repair enviromental damage caused by their leaders, offering re-designed/re-used outfits to supporters"

[kindred cave]

We can submit custom clothes?

[outer basin]

Make sure you read https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1324876611119743087 carefully before beginning work

[slim turtle]

Does anyone have any tips/guides for animating pixel hair? Or even just, regular hair sprites??? I like making longer hair and I like a little bounce/flow but I rly have 0 reference to how/where hair should move tbh

[outer basin]

Hm
Really, the simplest way I can explain it is that the hair is delayed in moving

Like, when something starts to move, due to static friction and laws of physics and whatever
Things that don't have to move won't

So long hair or a loose sleeve won't move forwards until it reaches the end of its length

Eyah
Really rough graphic

The circle moves, but the loose 'hair' lags behind

[slim turtle]

I get what ya mean, but I mostly meant references to other hair animations :( I can eyeball it on my own and it looks alright, but I havent been spriting long enough to know the ins and outs

[hollow vale]

I'd look at some of the hairstyles that move. You can find the sheets in the game files.

It's kinda hard to explain it, so visuals always help

You can also find the Game Freak sprite sheets on The Spriters Resource. They have lots of non-pokemon sheets too.

Tl;Dr look at what other people do. It works!

[twin oyster]

In the graphics/characters/player/hairs is where all the ones we've made are just search for the long ones

[lilac anchor]

Had an internet outage which lead to some major procrastination on my end, back to spriting

[full quartz]

what's the process for reporting issues with hair sprites? the pomeg hair (aka glitzerset) has missing frames and is causing temporary baldness in game

[outer basin]

Let me get this straight
The glitch hair... has a glitch

I think Paya explains it up here

[full quartz]

LMAO yes

[twin oyster]

the same as with mon sprites but with the correct flair in any case ill deal with this one

@umbral pulsar u used the hat template for the glitzer hair it needs to use the full 4x4 sprites sheet just copypaste each color into the rigth template and send it too the fixes folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1UTeCPJyOLyAvhsBM_QIO1OIIhlk3G_qS

[latent hazel]

huh

[umbral pulsar]

I think you might have pinged the wrong person? The glitzer set was made by @latent hazel

[full quartz]

I suppose the pomeg hair frame isnt the only error here Gottem

[latent hazel]

idk what i need to do but im so tired that i just

please somebody else do it for me

[twin oyster]

a sorry i wnet back and so u posting the hair in videos and stuf and didnt check farther

also kinda assumed ohok knew the templates by then...

[twin oyster]

fine ill do it later

[latent hazel]

i should be using the right template? I have my sheet

[twin oyster]

it should be like this even for short hairs

[latent hazel]

ah

[hollow vale]

Yup, gotta have all those frames

[lilac anchor]

Postponing working on N's attire for now, I am really struggling with the run sprite. Will be moving on to oras aqua male now

[hollow vale]

What's got you stuck on it?

[lilac anchor]

N has a few little features that im really trying to highlight and have implemented on the overworld sprites such as his necklace and cube and its proving to be tricky trying to make that work on the run sprite

I probably just need to get back into the flow of things is all

[slim turtle]

Hey yall, any advice for this? I'm sorta tired and ik it needs some stuff buut can't figure out what-

Also, what would I call this style that most people would recognize??? I'm goin for sumn like the first image

[full quartz]

short afro, id say

its not a 100% name match but its also what the sprite looks like

[slim turtle]

[hollow vale]

I'd recommend looking at how they did the actual sprites from N and going from there if possible.

You may have to compromise on some details but it'll be a lot more readable that way.

[hollow vale]

"Buzz cut" could theoretically work but I'm not sure if this style has a different name when the texture of the hair isn't straight

[slim turtle]

Could say coily buzz cut maybe?

[hollow vale]

Maybe

[outer basin]

Found this wikipedia list of hairstyles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hairstyles

[slim turtle]

Omg that reminds me I need to make a mohawk sprite

Thank q realthree

[twin oyster]

Mohawk was literally the first hair made...

[slim turtle]

Oh wait is it-

Oops that a lil embarassing

[hollow vale]

You could do liberty spikes tho

[lilac anchor]

Thatd be sick lol

[quick locust]

so i was looking through team rocket disguises and i think I'm going to commit to spriting this because its super on theme for this game, and also, Gender.

also i can do a version in black to give players a third option for the gendered rocket clothes

[lilac anchor]

I would love jessie/james outfits

[quick locust]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1393015605644366004 well then you're in luck as the easiest way to do this seemed to be doing all threee outfits ;)

[lilac anchor]

Woah, half and half is funky

[quick locust]

yeah, i might have to adjust the shirt and belt design to make it fit better

[lilac anchor]

Probably

But overall great job!

[quick locust]

thanks! i'm feeling pretty good about this part for a first outfit

[hollow vale]

Love these!

Good luck on the overworlds tho

[quick locust]

thanks! I'm glad they're going to be about halfway identical at that scale at least, that'll save some work.

[hollow vale]

For sure

[quick locust]

so i know it won't matter with my current project, but if i'm looking for the alternate skin tones to make sure they don't cause some parts of an outfit to appear invisible or something, where would i find those? i wasn't spotting any indicators for those palettes with the templates.

[twin oyster]

it really doesnt matter with any but if u have the game downloaded theyre in \InfiniteFusion\Graphics\Characters\player\base

[quick locust]

that's probably true. I'm just wanting to make sure i don't put a fleshtone panel on something without thinking. found it!

[hollow vale]

It's also nice to see how clothes work with certain skintones I think. Just for fun

[sudden dirge]

How do we post the outfits again

[outer basin]

#custom-outfits-submissions

Or #1050404143807873157 with the Player Customization tag

[twin oyster]

this first and then the other one

[outer basin]

I wasn't sure what kind of posting was meant

[hollow vale]

Spritework threads won't matter too too much unless you want input from a lot of people

Iirc they're tested approved by a few people/one person

[twin oyster]

more like tested by none(unless u want one of us to do it but sometimes we just cant), aprove by 1

[hollow vale]

yeah true most people test their own stuff

[lone yoke]

I'd kill for an online tool or something I could dump the files into to see them animated

something a bit more wieldy than "overwrite an outfit that's already in game, then open the game and do all the actions"

[hollow vale]

i would like that too but im not a coder

[outer basin]

I use Photopea to make animated gifs

[scarlet saffron]

I use ezgif to make gifs, but you do still have to upload each frame individually

[quick locust]

so if my overworld sprite for James' rocket outfits is using the existing overworld rocket outfit as a base, who would i credit? I just wanted to make sure they had the same silhouette at that small scale and it seemed like the way to go.

[hollow vale]

if i had to guess, probably Paya?

[twin oyster]

either paya or kiwi but im not sure

[hollow vale]

It's Kiwi according to the credit doc!

[hollow vale]

Finally finished Nurse Joy

🫠

[hollow vale]

Flannery's hat is in the drive now too

I went with a flame beanie

[twin oyster]

ok gonna mark it as done

[twin oyster]

make sure that frogman knows is the hat for flanery, just in case

[hollow vale]

ID is "flannerybeanie"

so hopefully

[twin oyster]

ok then no problem

[twin oyster]

almost done with the magma rse outfit just fishing left... i should start outfit with fishing instead of keeping the most annoying one for last

[hollow vale]

i usually save the surf for the last one

since its ez

i go walk -> run -> bike -> fish -> dive -> surf

[twin oyster]

ok @next cosmos magmaRSE is done and sent

[next cosmos]

Thank you! I'll take a look as soon as I get back from vacation

[hollow vale]

I'll be working on the female Magma uniforms tomorrow

[tiny drum]

Hey I got a bug report that the leafeon hairstyle is missing some movement sprites

[hollow vale]

Can we see? We'll mark it as bugged and fix it asap

I say we but I don't have edit access to the spreadsheet. Whatever lol

[twin oyster]

yup its anther case of just made one frame per side

now lets see who made it

seems to be a @latent hazel one

[latent hazel]

huh

oh yeah whoops

[hollow vale]

ty for checking, I'm not home atm

[snow escarp]

it's a hat

[latent hazel]

its a hair im just stupid

[covert falcon]

I guess you could call it a wig

[next cosmos]

That moment when you actually get something that has a tag in #1052360360172199977 it's usually the other way around

[twin oyster]

doesnt matter already handled it here

[next cosmos]

Yep I see, I just throught it was funny

[quick locust]

#1393015605644366004 and that's my first set of overworld sprites to the first draft phase! yay finally making some progress after being pulled away from spriting for awhile. Now to review and modify these into Jessie Sprites :)

[lilac anchor]

Sorry its taking so long, have a lot of life stuff to deal with rn. If anyone wants to take over oras aqua male outfit feel free to I still have no estimate to when I can get back to it

[quick locust]

and that's Jessie! also made a few corrections on James' overworld sprites as i modified them into this

[cursive sapphire]

So we can make outfits for series Pokemon Crossovered with right?

That's why we have a Miku outfit right?

And a Nobunaga one?

(Also thanks for the Jessie outfit, I only made the hair hehe)

[warm cairn]

If someone makes the Nobunaga outfit, the hair as to come with his facial hair as a secondary hair option.

[cursive sapphire]

So we can make outfits based on these guys now?

@sour juniper

[warm cairn]

What the shock?

[warm skiff]

I gotta make a Ben 10 one fr

OS, UAF, and OV

It would take forever but it would be worth it

[hollow vale]

Pokemon crossed over with Ben 10 officially? When?

[hollow vale]

I think outfits like this MIGHT be okay if they're the conquest variants. Good luck with that detail though.

I think Miku is fine because the versions we have are of Pokemon style Miku, and not just Miku's default design.

They come from official Pokemon collaboration media, not just doodles of characters hanging out or whatever.

But I'm not Frog, not my decision.

[full quartz]

Theres so much going on in this image

[cursive sapphire]

There's only 20 Shonen Jump characters with 20 of their Pokemon Partners drawn by their original artists

[full quartz]

to be fair thats a lot of characters and pokemon to fit into 1 image

[warm skiff]

Ben 10 was featured in Brawlhalla along with Megaman, Megaman was in smash bros along with Pokemon, so Ben 10 is totally canon to Pokemon, trust

[twin oyster]

I did the nobunaga one it is the conquest versión and the dragón type expert outfit

[hollow vale]

Based

Either way my personal opinion on the Shonen Jump thing is that it's a bit too much of a stretch.

[warm skiff]

Also, in my defense, I misread the first message 😭

I thought they were referring to the crossover sprites not official Pokemon crossovers

[twin oyster]

yeah definetelly

[hollow vale]

But if Frog says otherwise, that's his choice

[twin oyster]

he probably wont

[outer basin]

I realized that there are probably lots of great hats in the props for the gen 5 Pokémon musicals

[hollow vale]

Oh definitely!

[sour juniper]

@quick locust There's a problem with your James Team Rocket uniform, it looks like the walking overworld sprite it semi transparent (running is fine, I didn't check the others). The Jessie uniform doesn't seem to have that problem

[hollow vale]

Oh that's weird, wonder what's causing it

[outer basin]

With some spriting programs, all you need to do is bump a number button to turn the layer semitransparent

[patent swan]

Hello, I have a concept sketch for the character's clothing.

[quick locust]

it's actually even worse on the spriting program I'm using (pixelorama). if you rotate the mouse wheel while your mouse is over the layers panel it adjusts transparency for the current layer. thank you, I'll reupload it later tonight

[outer basin]

You could probably put it in #1263858526829416539 and see if anyone takes it

[quick locust]

)not to mention that if you accidentally sample a transparent layer for your palette it'll claim the color is at 100% opacity while maintaining the transparency 😝 mostly i like it but I'm learning i need to double check these things as they show up

[outer basin]

Fusion bot will yell at you for the size, but it will do a good job detecting partial transparency

[quick locust]

thanks for the reminder! I'll run it before uploading for outfits too from now on 🙂

[full quartz]

LOL

[ionic lichen]

Did you see this message?
#custom-outfits-discussion message

[paper garnet]

How to add custom outfits into the game

[twin oyster]

Ull need to replace one cause it doesnt work like with the Mons the outfits are in graphics/characters/...

[paper garnet]

Elaborate on replacing, I saw I had to change every single name which looks tedious

[twin oyster]

Yes you'll need to match the name of the outfit ur replacing for all the animations

[paper garnet]

Aint there like 30+ animations

[twin oyster]

Just 6 each with 12 frames + the trainer card one, thats what we do for each outfit

[paper garnet]

So it’s 6 files that I need to rename

Or 72? (Why am i so bad at math today)

[twin oyster]

6

7 actually

[outer basin]

Each spritesheet has 16 frames on it, and the game gets the frames by looking in specific parts of the spritesheet

[paper garnet]

And which outfit would I need to replace?

[outer basin]

Whichever one you don't mind not having anymore

[paper garnet]

Or which one I already have currently

I dont have every outfit and hat in the game yet,

I dont know if a guide for that exists,

[outer basin]

Well, yeah, you would want it to be one that you already have or can get easily

[paper garnet]

Just randomly encountered the saint himself while taking a stroll through the ice mountains

[outer basin]

But you're basically just reskinning a different outfit

[quick locust]

update is in the fixed folder. the fishing sprites had the same issue. thank you again for catching this!

[sour juniper]

Awesome, thanks for the quick fix!

Hey, all you beautiful people from #custom-outfits-discussion! I'm going to be trialling a new method for submitting character customization sprites. Basically, instead of directly uploading the files to a Google Drive, submissions will be done through a Google form instead.

Basically, this is to make things a little bit easier and more organized for the person who manages the character customization submissions ||aka, me ||.

• The files submitted through the form will be automatically renamed with the correct name using the ID in the form, so no more filename errors to fix manually
• This will also allow us to collect credits in a slightly more organized manner
• There are also some optional fields to give a name/description to your creations

For now, this is only set up for submitting hats, but if it works well I'll expand it to hairstyles and clothes too.

[cursive sapphire]

So we can make a Luffy outfit?

[cursive sapphire]

:D

[sour juniper]

I'm not sure what is, but I'm going to say no as it's too much of a direct reference to another franchise 😅 ||But you couuuuld make a "generic" pirate outfit that happens to have similarities with Luffy 👀 ||

[cursive sapphire]

Oh that pic is a collabortation with the Magazine "Shonen Jump"
In it, 20 mangaka drew their characters with a pokemon partner on the cover of the latest issue

[echo mirage]

A good reminder I need to tweak/redo my zigzagoon hat

[bright crown]

I've had an idea for a hat, maybe I will try and make it

[hollow vale]

Yippee! I hope this makes it easier for you, Frog! And anyone else who helps out later on.

[bright crown]

horns are more annoying to make than I thought

[latent hazel]

suggestion: move it up and to the left

[bright crown]

yeah that feels a bit better

also not entirely happy with the overworld, but not sure how to make it better

[snow escarp]

another suggestion: flip it vertically?

[bright crown]

nah

[snow escarp]

hmm IG it doesn't look like I expected

maybe horizontally?

[bright crown]

now its more fake elf ear

[snow escarp]

wait I found the angle
try filliping vertically + 90° rotation

should look like this

[bright crown]

ah

yeah thats a bit better

[snow escarp]

looks closer to the overworld imo

[bright crown]

Does it look like a rhydon horn at all?

[snow escarp]

looks too curved for that 😔
both for the trainer and overworld

[bright crown]

hmm I guess I got to try and figure out how to make it less curved

[unkempt hull]

SORRRY

Was tryna send freind some recommendations and sent it in the wrong dc

[warm skiff]

Why does it keep saying there’s a new message in here?

[bright crown]

Scam bots send messages in every channel they can, but when they get yeeted the messages get deleted

[tough field]

but on the bright side you have a chance to gain some free mr beast crypto!!!!!

[dense acorn]

Yo
I have ɲø idea how to do sprite work

But I have a request for any one interested

Can u something h.zoroark related
Plzzzz

Oh and make it easily accessible

My favourite Mon is hisuian zoroark

[sour juniper]

There's a hisuian zoroark mask actually

[outer basin]

#sprite-requests would be a good place to get visibility for any spriting-related requests

[full quartz]

why's your no "fancy"

[dense acorn]

How do I get it in game

[dense acorn]

It isn't
I just did that to show that I have zero idea how to do stuff like dat

[full quartz]

i mean, different font and all also, the mask is in the same area you go to help jasmine in the post game

(one of the sevii islands. i wanna say kin?)

[dense acorn]

Bruh
That lat3?

[full quartz]

yes

[sour juniper]

You can also get it by showing a zoroark or zorua at the saffron boutique. Or it can appear randomly in goldenrod market

[dense acorn]

Thx

[twin oyster]

#1405209087725015203 @cursive sapphire this one is yours rigth?

[cursive sapphire]

Yes it's mine

[polar fulcrum]

I want an ash kanto sprite so bad and its a shame there's none made rn. Shame my old one doesn't work from my last version

[rancid spear]

so do the outfits do anything special or are they just to change how your character looks?

[lone yoke]

most of them are just cosmetic

a few select outfits have perks though they aren't game changing or anything

The type specialist outfits, for example, have a chance to generate a free item themed around the corresponding type after each battle

[pulsar spoke]

and if you wear the Team Rocket Uniform and Hat, you get altered dialogue from NPCs in some places, iirc. Though I can't recall if you have to equip the uniform via the Rocket Uniform Key Item prompt, or if you can equip them from the regular outfit interface and still get the changed dialogue or not.

[hollow vale]

Both work fine.

[pulsar spoke]

noted

[ripe creek]

will Hilda's(black/white female protagonist's) outfit ever be added???

[lone yoke]

if someone makes it, yeah

[lilac anchor]

Alright, sorry for going MIA I think im ready to get back to spriting

[jaunty egret]

how about those costumes in battle revolution like the groudon outfit

[hollow vale]

It'll have to be requested, but I planned to make some BR outfits at some point

I mainly want the Pachirisu one though

[lilac anchor]

Yeah, the pachirisu one is the one I'd mainly want though the groudon one is good too

We already have a roserade ome domt we?

[hollow vale]

I think so.

I plan to make the Unite ver of Rayquaza at some point

[supple mural]

is there someone who would make a custom player sprite?

[lone yoke]

what

things changed a couple months ago, player customization is no longer one whole thing. It's split into outfits, hats, and hair, which can all be swapped in game

[supple mural]

I know

[outer basin]

#sprite-requests is the best place for sprite-related requests, even if the sprite is not a fusion sprite

[supple mural]

Aight, thank you

[sour juniper]

Hey! It's been about a month and a half now, have any of you guys had the chance to test out the new submissions form for hats?

[twin oyster]

mmm i dont think so

[full quartz]

You speak to an old spirit sheep

[hollow vale]

Not yet but I can probably do so in the coming days

[polar fulcrum]

I wonder if someone has made an ash trainer sprite yet

[next cosmos]

Nope, on the list of things I'll get to some time this eternity, but it will take a while

It depends on if someone else will have the time, since outfits take a lot of effort

[weary robin]

Use these for hair?

What size should they be? The one on the right really isn’t converting well to the 96 by 96

[weary robin]

Mullet is looking dope

[hollow vale]

It shouldn't be at 96x96

[weary robin]

I changed it

I found the way to import the whole image

[hollow vale]

320x320 res when you submit them, 160x160 default

basically just 2x them when you submit them to the drive

[weary robin]

Yeah double it

[hollow vale]

yup!

[weary robin]

I did want to ask for the hair to animate it

Just this one?

[hollow vale]

You can animate the hair on these frames

Also it needs to be on the walk base, not the run

[weary robin]

Thank you

Yall don’t have the file names linked to them so it’s hard to tell 😭

[hollow vale]

Yeah it needs some re-organization

But we're working on it slowly

[weary robin]

Ur good!

I submitted the request I hope they approve it

[sturdy swallow]

Joke idea: Glitch mask.

[hollow vale]

That's actually really rad

[west lichen]

when i got it i first thought i had glitched or not loaded an image properly 🤣

actually i should reload the game later and check if it didnt transform into something else

[outer basin]

The glitch mask is real and is featured in the picture above

Iirc it's another set made by oh ok

[latent hazel]

I MADE THAT SHIT!!!! FUCK YEAH

frog put my hard work behind a glitch so nobody would see it /lhj

[twin oyster]

tbf triggering random glitches in this game is extremly easy i dont think ive had a playthrough since it came out that i havent unlocked without trying

sometimes i didnt even realize something had glitched the mask just shows up

[latent hazel]

HA

[outer basin]

I've only got the mask once, and it was through that glitch where you get the set despite nothing glitches

Which, in itself, is a glitch, meaning that there was no longer 'no glitch'

It's very paradoxical

[ionic lichen]

I love that, you got it without a glitch which shouldn't happen which means it IS a glitch that you got it but had you not gotten it you WOULD NOT have had a glitch meaning that it's all horrible if you try and parse it logically

https://tenor.com/view/undefined-cat-hyper-gif-662579191545674330

[livid canyon]

Hello new here. Just wanted to check if there are any guidelines for trainer sprites similar to the fusions? Like what size the sprite should use. etc

[snow escarp]

hello there, you can find all the guidelines in #custom-outfits-submissions
you can also get some more info in the pins of both channels as well

[livid canyon]

Oh for I must have missed to check the role to show these channels! Thanks for the link!

[clear lake]

does anyone else get mad at the caveman forehead in the default male hair

[spiral timber]

I'm not too particularly skilled in sprit art, so I wanted to submit this idea to anyone who would like to try and make this, but my idea was to make fusion themed outfits, so for this submission, I was thinking a trainer outfit with similar design elements as the Aegislash head fusions, with bronze ancient looking armor, a black robe and cloth under the armor and the purple cloth as a cape. it could also have an accompanying hat that makes a bronze closed helmet/crown with ghostly glowing orbs for eyes to fit the whole ghost armor theme.

[outer basin]

#sprite-requests is the place for that

[azure slate]

Has anyone requested red hair as an option yet? (I'm unsure where to post this)

[twin oyster]

u can die your hair basically any tone so red as a base would only add to our work when making the hairs

[azure slate]

ah didnt' see the bit about hair tone

[spiral dock]

hey, am i able to update a hair that's already in the game?

not really happy w/ the current one (i made it)

[outer basin]

You should be able to
I don't know for certain (I don't know where to find the process in writing), but I think you can make a sprite-errors report to update it?

[spiral dock]

ok, i'll try that; thx

[hollow vale]

Yeah I think sprite-errors is where you'd submit a fix for cc. I've done something similar but for credits issues before

[twin oyster]

Yeah sprite-error thread and ping paya

[next cosmos]

Don't ping me, I see all sprite error threads after a chansey marks it for me

[halcyon grove]

@next cosmos

[ivory remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[next cosmos]

[outer basin]

Would it be allowed to make like a scarf or a necklace as a 'hat' item?
It fits as an accessory, but I don't know if going around the neck is too far-fetched for something referred to as hat

[next cosmos]

Can't see why not

[twin oyster]

Kogas reward is alreadu a scarf already so yes can be done but its hard to fit on the running animation

[spiral dock]

is there one place/archive to see all of the CC currently in the game?

[spiral dock]

new question: is the one pinned up to date?

[twin oyster]

yup i think its up to date

[next cosmos]

Does anyone know who made the nurse hat? I don't know the email associated with the credits and it's really important

[outer basin]

I don't, but I assume this is related to the geneva convention rule?

Tangentally related question:
If someone were to make a nurse hat with a green cross and a player used the dye kit to hue shift it to be red, would PIF be in violation? Or would the player be in violation?

[versed iron]

It would be the player

Interesting note, most games just use a white cross on a red background instead of a red cross or just change the cross to pink or orange

[latent hazel]

@vapid gyro

i dont know how to ping all the mods

[warm radish]

ty

[warm radish]

you gotta type out @ moderator

[latent hazel]

oooh

[vapid gyro]

<@&306953740651462656>

[latent hazel]

"oh boy what are they talking about in custom-outfits?!"
the nefarious crypto scam:

[frozen plank]

what

god fucking dammit pory

[vapid gyro]

They asked how you do it

[latent hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187178877664100372/1317963219159089223/caption.gif

[vapid gyro]

Either way, that's a job for Papaya or the pisses, I think

[spiral dock]

mohawk??????

[teal berry]

That's fucking hilarious

Ur such a little shitter I love it

Never change pory

[vapid gyro]

but then I'll be stinky

I gotta be able to change at some point

[teal berry]

Wear the clothes in the shower

[vapid gyro]

[ionic lichen]

Diapers will be your friend.
Also it's just fun to watch you piss off Mil

[vapid gyro]

[hollow vale]

If you can't find the person who made it, I did submit an alternate Nurse Joy cap a few months ago without a cross on it.

It's just the BW/BW2 one meant to replicate the Nurse Joys in Unova

It's a different ID and it's already been accepted

[hard narwhal]

how do you download and equip custom outfits?

[next cosmos]

Yep I saw it in the files!

[next cosmos]

You dont, they're once the designs are accepted they're built into the game. There is no downloading. You're taught how to change clothes at the start of the game, but there's a menu. Make sure your game is updated

[hard narwhal]

ah ok thanks

[twin oyster]

@sour juniper did u remember to put in the ghost outfit cause i cant find the guy

[hollow vale]

I don't think some of that stuff has been implemented yet, but I could be wrong

[twin oyster]

he said the ghost one was comming this update cause it was ready for the last update but he forgot it, the ones that still arent ready at all are psychic and grass

[latent hazel]

im working on deltarune sprites i dont think im going tog et to the psychic outfit

i did make a design tho

[sour juniper]

No, I still need to come up with the team

[outer basin]

The description

Yeah, nurses usually run around violating the Geneva Convention's ruling

[lone yoke]

I mean

you know what nevermind

[halcyon grove]

A team you say?

[sour juniper]

I'm taking suggestions

[halcyon grove]

I’ll do some brainstorming

I mean term and I came up with the flying type expert team

[sour juniper]

sounds good

[outer basin]

I will return to my Pokémon Ranger outfit

And then I'm gonna see how many of these I can make into pif hats

[snow escarp]

the most important hat to add

[sour juniper]

That'd be a good one for hoenn

[hollow vale]

doot

[radiant briar]

hey, does anyone have the list of the new player cosmetic stuff?

checked the changelog, it doesn't have it

[outer basin]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1306414137676398614
Linking this again since I'm working on it now

WHY

Only the first frame of the back view of the surfing animation has pixels in the corners of the hands

[ancient solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-wynaut-happy-jump-gif-17071241

[next cosmos]

Shhhhhh

Also guess what guys, finally working on outfits again! I hope to finish May RS soon

[latent hazel]

wahoo!

[outer basin]

Can you stop putting this in channels

We don't have any commands that are triggered that way

[ionic lichen]

||(Definitely needs parentheses around that little bit )||

[outer basin]

Well, the hat's gonna be changed, so I think that's technically placeholder text

[next cosmos]

It was changed, the placeholder text now has new placeholder text

it's not in game yet

[next cosmos]

May RS is done! I'm finishing up Brendan RS walking right now. It's gonna take some time for the rest of his outfit, but I'm really pleased with the progress

[twin oyster]

cool maybe ill get to work on some of the magma and aqua outfits maybe...

[next cosmos]

So guys, I have something great to show you While working on these I was saying to frog how great it would be if we had some kind of a program to preview our work so we dont have to keep putting it in game to test... and he just casually made said program he's wanting to find a way to make it easily accessible for you guys to use

video is it in action

[outer basin]

Is the video the .mkv file?

[hollow vale]

oooooo this absolutely would make things easier

definitely makes me want to work on stuff once it's out

[next cosmos]

Yep! I'm sorry I wish I could figure out how to make it playable without a file

[next cosmos]

I'm sure frog wouldnt mind if people used this version, you would just need to have python and shit installed, which makes it a little less user friendly

[hollow vale]

I built aseprite (and I never use it LMAO) I can do anything

[next cosmos]

Wait, for real? 😮 holy shit

[hollow vale]

Oh I mean like

They have a free ver. of aseprite that you can get (or used to), you just have to build/compile the code

WORDING SUCKS

https://www.reddit.com/r/PixelArt/comments/i387m1/guide_how_to_build_aseprite_from_source_aseprite/
I don't think this version of aseprite is available anymore, but so long as there are instructions like this, I can probably build Frog's code just fine

[next cosmos]

That's impressive let me get this for you

Only thing you need to do is change the directory and it should be good to go

My file pathing is basically almost exactly like base pif, just the hoenn dev branch. I dont think it needs to be set to your game. Wherever you keep your clothing is just fine, the files just have to have the correct format so it can read it. Frog wants to continue working on, but right now it's only clothes, not hair and hats yet

[halcyon grove]

Python files

[hollow vale]

Oh that's pretty ez actually

Will try and get this working tomorrow

[next cosmos]

yep! whenever frog makes scripts, he usually makes them easy to manage

[hollow vale]

So finally got around to this and it's throwing an error, I think it does need to be set to the game (or you need to at least have these files in the folder you're pointing it to)

Idk why it's printing with two \s, silly git bash

Seems to me that the file structure has to be the same as the \characters\player path + include the base sprites

Not hard to make a copy of it and format it at least

the other ones work great too

[next cosmos]

Yay! Glad you figured it out

[viral spear]

Yooo

Lowkey wanting a queen set

[outer basin]

#sprite-requests

[next cosmos]

May and brendan RS are done!

[hollow vale]

Looks good to me!

[hollow vale]

Loving the extra customization for the rival, moms, and sibling ❤️ Good job Paya and Frog!

I will be working on the fem Magma uniforms soon ™

You may need to annoy me about it

[next cosmos]

Thank you!! I'm so stupidly proud

[west linden]

same xd

[latent hazel]

I occasionally get really into glitch pokemon for like a month at a time and like making sprites related to them

I have an unfinished missingno outfit too but I'm too busy with other sprites to work on outfits

trying to find it but ?????

ok found it, i think this is an older version

[outer basin]

And so begin the hats
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1431002225588572421

[latent hazel]

scarf!

[outer basin]

So, the pinned message says there's a new form for submitting character customization sprites, but I see the form only works for hats when you open it up and look at it

So I'll submit my ranger uniform the old-fashioned way

Since there's not really anywhere to submit this, I'll just put it here:
I'd like the outfit to be called Ranger Uniform, though I'm sure that'll be obvious from the filenames

It would be super cool if you could get it from the Ranger Cabin on Pinkan Island, though since that's something that's possible to miss, it would have to go somewhere else, too

Maybe a side quest where you're mistaken for a Pokémon Ranger and asked to show up in uniform?
And then if you don't have the uniform already, you're handed one

[halcyon grove]

That’d be a cool spot for it, ngl

Realistically most of the outfits are technically missable so

[outer basin]

I mean that if you miss something on pinkan island, you can't go back for it later

And I know some outfit items can be found in multiple places to make them easier to find

[halcyon grove]

Iirc you can do Pinkan repeatedly

[outer basin]

Oh, really?
I didn't know

How do you repeat it?

[halcyon grove]

I’d have to double check but I think you can just talk to TR in goldenrod underground again. I know if you do the police side, you can still do the TR side (and vice versa)

[hollow vale]

Would you be cool if I did the matching hairstyles for the ranger uniform?

Kate, Lunick, Kellyn and Solana specifically
Summer and Ben have a different outfit

[outer basin]

Yeah, go for it

MOAR HATS
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1431025025598623754

[halcyon grove]

I want Tiffany’s outfit. I don’t care about the rangers

-# I’m joking about not caring, I actually love the Ranger outfit

[outer basin]

If any of the ones I'm planning to do already have essentially the same thing in PIF, just let me know

Some of these, like the straw hat and the santa hat, I'm not planning to make because it's redundant

Some of these I'm not making because I don't want to figure out how to make on the head

The only one I'm not sure about is the rose
I thought we already had a head item for holding a rose in your mouth? But maybe I'm just thinking of other games

If there isn't one, I'll add the rose to the planned list

[lone yoke]

oh

the chef's hat

I made that several months ago and then never submitted it

oughh

I'll do that later tonight

[next cosmos]

cowboy hat is already in the game

[outer basin]

Trying out the new hat submission form and noticed this

Since there's nowhere to submit this, I'm putting it here:
I think a neat obtainment method for the Explorer's Scarf would be if you could encounter two randomly-chosen starter Pokémon in the overworld that give you the item. They can disappear afterwards

A neat obtainment method for the Harmony Scarf would be if you could get it after catching or battling Mew

[twin oyster]

2 versions if im not wrong cause theres clay hat and the one that goes with the ground type outfit

[bright crown]

I believe there are several tophats already, but I might be mistaken

[hollow vale]

There definitely are

I personally think a tiny top hat would be funny though

Also I don't think we have a hat of a tinymushroom on someone's head yet? I may be mistaken

The frilly headband could be turned into a sleeping mask

[copper rampart]

I WANT A MUSHROOM HAT

IM GONNA MAKE IT

[hollow vale]

I was gonna make a little sprout one, just haven't gotten around to it

[bright crown]

Yeah there is a mushroom hat

[copper rampart]

A tiny one?

[bright crown]

It's kind of big

[copper rampart]

We need a small one

[hollow vale]

We could go smaller...or larger...

I could've checked but I'm not home and I hate navigating discord pins on mobile

[copper rampart]

I have two ideas

[hollow vale]

Go on... cook...

[spiral dock]

dooes anyone here have Vermillion city unlocked pls?

i kinda rlly want to see my CC's descriptions in-game

but never finished the E4

[outer basin]

You don't need to beat the E4 to reach Vermillion City

What outfit are you hoping to see?

[latent hazel]

can somebody tell me when the ghost outfit is added

[outer basin]

Looking into it, it seems that there is a 'red top hat' which is a black top hat with a red ribbon and a 'white top hat' which is a black top hat with a white ribbon

So I'll keep the white top hat on my list of hats to do

[spiral dock]

really? idk how to move the sudwoodo

[outer basin]

If you don't go to Vermillion City, you can't reach the E4 because you don't have Surge's badge

[spiral dock]

oh i said it wrong

i meant Violet city

srry

[outer basin]

I should be able to go there

But what outfit item am I looking for?

[spiral dock]

in the Poké-Mart, Delinquent outfit

[outer basin]

There's a chance I already have it

[spiral dock]

triangular shades

and the Pompadour

[spiral dock]

that would be nice

[spiral dock]

niceee

[spiral dock]

lol, thank u very much!!

[outer basin]

I hope that at least some of the musical prop items I'm making are obtainable before Saffron, because you don't have a ton of options for hats to put on your pokemon until you reach the fashion designer and the train station to goldenrod with the underground market

[spiral dock]

fr

[outer basin]

I would like to put just a simple bow on my pokemon, please

[spiral dock]

never knew almost all of my CC were so difficult to obtain

[outer basin]

Not an upside-down frying pan, not a human-sized hood, not a tiny pair of glasses

There's okay options for hats for humans early-game, but your pokemon don't have as many feasible options

The frying pan is okay if you have a pokemon that has a spot for holding something, though

[spiral dock]

just one more thing, Three

do u happen to have beaten the ice expert?

[outer basin]

Nope

[spiral dock]

ok

thx anyway

[hollow vale]

One of mine ended up as a quest reward and I'm very pleased by this outcome lol

Iirc it's the krabby legs reward

[scarlet saffron]

Ive made bow

If only hat could be animated…

[latent hazel]

two of my outfits accidentally have swapped requirements but at this point people like the cool one and want it earlier

[twin oyster]

its a drying pan get it correctly :V

[snow escarp]

make it a hairstyle instead
bald but with a bow

[hollow vale]

I kinda want to do something similar to honor this beautiful ffxiv hair request

[latent hazel]

do it

[outer basin]

Not feeling super well, but I'm gonna go through the tedious process of submitting all 15 of my hats

Wish me luck
I hope I don't accidentally submit a wrong file at any point

[latent hazel]

good luck

[outer basin]

Submitted

Puts my number of submitted hats this month at 17

[hollow vale]

Baby hair soon...

[scarlet saffron]

I’m currently trying to think of hat list I could sprite to add… so far:

• teeny monocle
• cutesy deco hair clips with lots of little greebles
• carved pumpkin or other gourd
• stereotypical spiral nerd glasses (whoops…I forgot that’s a request I took)
• leaf sprout/ daisy
• burger hat
• mascot costume/ furry style mask
• stitching or something with patches (maybe stereotypical scarecrow hat with straw poking out?)
• nurse hat that avoids breaking Geneva convention
• bull/ antelope horns or goat/ devil horns
• politoed curl
• leavanny hood

[outer basin]

So, are you saying the nerd glasses are already made?

Because one of the props I'm going to be converting to pif hat is the Googly Specs, which is that sort of spiral-lens glasses

[hollow vale]

I was planning on making a leaf hat.
We also have a nurse hat that doesn't break the Geneva convention!

Not sure how actively maintained this is, but it should help https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19uYNGk5SbBqcsHV155IBcABcIbRatEhkLTwTK2R3LU8/edit?usp=sharing

[scarlet saffron]

It was a request I took, but I forgot about it and never sprited it…whoops

Want me to give it up so you can ping the person who asked it?

[scarlet saffron]

Good to know.

[sour juniper]

@outer basin This is embarrassing but I accidentally deleted your bluebarette (overworld) hat while sorting the hat submissions Would you mind sending it to me here?

All the others survived tho, dw

[sour juniper]

Also, with that batch we hit 200 hats in the game!

[outer basin]

Okay, I'll resubmit it

Oh, send it here

Yeah, I can do that

[halcyon grove]

My brain just went through:

“Oops.” control+z
“You cannot undo this action”
“Shit”

[sour juniper]

That's precisely how it went

[sour juniper]

Thank you! 🙏

[outer basin]

Did you finish the chef's hat?

[lone yoke]

AUGH

forgor again

[lone yoke]

ok the chef's hat is posted

Only uh. 7 months after I made it. Whoops

[outer basin]

If you want, but I can't guarantee I'll do it within the two-week timeframe the requests follow

You could pass along word that it'll get done eventually?
You're still free to make them, but I'd like to know if you are so I know not to make a second one

Other than that, I've got it all planned out

[outer basin]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1432927927758098523

[hollow vale]

the baby hair has been submitted

but also sproot

[outer basin]

Yay and double yay

[copper rampart]

what did bro do

did you throw a sock full of mud at the wall what is that

[outer basin]

Another arcane Frog recording

[sour juniper]

One of these days there's gonna be something embarrassing in one of these

[hollow vale]

looking forward to the one where frog reveals he's mr frog

[hollow vale]

Hmm.. Not sure if this reads as the RSE MagmaF outfit

With the hood it looks okay

[halcyon grove]

He has spoken and his word is absolute

[halcyon grove]

This is precisely what I mean when I say various frog noises

[next cosmos]

I honestly think it does! I was able to recognize it asap without needing to scroll down

[copper rampart]

I should make clothing

[next cosmos]

Cali I swear you follow me

do it and suffer with us

[hollow vale]

Great! I'll keep at it then

And yes, make clothing,,,, suffer!!!

[next cosmos]

That reminds me gummy, frog made an update to the preview script. let me get it for you, you'll have to update your directory of course

[copper rampart]

Im like springtrap fnaf 3 I go wherever there's activity

[next cosmos]

@hollow vale has the ability to preview hair w/hair colors, hats, and all skin colors now

[copper rampart]

Nobody understands this reference but that's ok

[next cosmos]

shhh, give me a sec :p

[copper rampart]

ok

[next cosmos]

this has been a fucking godsend, I've caught so many mistakes with it, including old clothing sprites

[next cosmos]

I've played a little of the original, but I getcha. I've spawned you

[hollow vale]

Oh this is perfect!

This is an amazing resource, ty frog and paya for your hard work

[next cosmos]

and i think he fixed a bug that would make it go fast and crazy if you double tapped an arrow key havent tested that yet though

Pffffft I didnt do shit but complain about how it can be to preview your work he made the magic! I'll pass it on just in case he doesn't visit this shat for months again

[hollow vale]

You did bug test though

[next cosmos]

true

[hollow vale]

[next cosmos]

oh! and it has the ability to toggle off the hat, since I've found that ones its on you couldnt take it off without restarting the program

[hollow vale]

Can confirm this works

[next cosmos]

yay success!!

[hollow vale]

This is sooo helpful. Once Frog is able to compile it into an actual program, hopefully more people will use this to test!

[next cosmos]

For sure! He wants to make it more accessible so hopefully we'll get it this year

[hollow vale]

May I also suggest a trainer sprite previewer? I know that it's easy to do this in an image editor, but I think having it all in one package would be nice.

[next cosmos]

That would be nice, he originally made it so that it could be an exported gif, so I'd be interested in how he tackles this. Maybe a different preview window without interfereing with the gif 🤔 I'll ask him

[hollow vale]

Yeah I was thinking a side-by-side previewer would work, so when you select your items you see both the ow and the trainer sprite

Not sure how feasible that is from a programming standpoint though

[copper rampart]

I've seen similar things in other programs so it's probably possible

[outer basin]

Another eight hats submitted

[latent hazel]

realthree carrying this feature

[outer basin]

There's already so many hats in the game, I'm barely adding anything

https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Hats Look at all these hats

[latent hazel]

oh hey thats my hat

wait is it

yeah no i made that hat

[outer basin]

I guess I could do the gen 4 accessories, too

There's a lot of overlap with the gen 5 props, though

[latent hazel]

if you're up for it, maybe you can do pokemon themed hats? there's not a lot and there's a lot of pokemon that need them

[outer basin]

I don't know if we need a hat for every pokemon 😅

I'll try not to make plans until I'm finished with the props

[lone yoke]

I asked mr pokemon and he said we do

[latent hazel]

it would be funny

[outer basin]

Who wants to make the Dodrio hat with two extra heads

[hollow vale]

You could also take inspiration from Unite. There are a lot of hats in there

[outer basin]

Peak hat

Pokémon Cafe Remix also has a lot of hats and stuff for pokemon

I guess I could make the present prop a hat?

Seems kinda weird to me, though

[outer basin]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1433590461661970433

[hollow vale]

the chobin cosplay is real

https://tenor.com/view/chobin-pokemon-sexy-beast-gif-25574241

[hollow vale]

it looks cute with the hood and nurse joy hair

this one too hehe

some hair doesnt look great but thats just the fault of layering

[next cosmos]

I guess they cut out holes on the top for them

[lone yoke]

Cutting holes in headwear just to be extra with your hair is such a mood

[hollow vale]

It's very on-theme for Magma

[outer basin]

It's like those hats that have a hole in the top for a hair bun

[rapid elbow]

is there items based on the choice band, scarf and specs?

[outer basin]

The Harmony Scarves I finished recently have the same chevron pattern as the choice scarf

The Choice Band and Choice Specs don't have any counterparts in the game

[latent hazel]

i can add transparent pixels to outfits, right?

[outer basin]

Yeah

I mean, you can use intentional transparency in fusion sprites

[latent hazel]

the design of the scarf has transparent parts to match the clothes design

also his outfit bothers me

[outer basin]

I don't like the front suspenders

[rapid elbow]

if you can use transparent pixels that means you can AA on the skin :0

[latent hazel]

unsure about the transparency

[hollow vale]

I like it but I don't think it's needed

[latent hazel]

people like it, more so am unsure how transparent it should be (people like it like this but ill make it transparent at the end

[rapid elbow]

seems good to me

do the outfits have a color limit to worry about?

#1434996613842997468 also

[latent hazel]

I don't think they have a solid color limit but it might just be how fusions sprites are

[hollow vale]

as long as they are within the same limits as the fusion sprites it should be ok

[tender mulch]

theoretically, I can just copy and flip each frame of the OW walk/bike/etc cycle, right?

[latent hazel]

for clothes and hair? yeah

[tender mulch]

nice! I can be lazy!

I mean..... Creatively efficient.

[next cosmos]

Yep, unless you have a part thats asymmetrical

[tender mulch]

ANy errors in my copying shenanagins?

[tender mulch]

Nah, anything asymmetrical is on the large sprite. I cut a lot of the details for the OW sprite so as to not make it feel cluttered and undesirable.

her's an upscale of the bike srpites

I don't know like the exact finetuning, so I can't test to make sure it works

I did nhave a bit of trouble with the neck on the side sprites, I kinda hope the addition of hair and stuff will dispell that

[tender mulch]

Got the Dives done as well, if there I ended up missing something, please let me know

Also I have literally 0 editing expertise and as a result no high end software. Would changing the canvas size to 200% in Paint3D work for exporting?

in theory that is 2x scale. But I feel I should ask beforehand

[twin oyster]

yup that should work but test it cause some programs do scaling diferent and dont keep solid borders

[tender mulch]

ohh, how does one with 0 knowledge make the backgrounds transparent

I should probablky just put like outright that I am digitl art stupid. I have 0 idea what I am doing. Most experience I have is from being like 9 editing Metroid rooms into new maps and such. Good times lmfao!

[twin oyster]

Mmm... U should have made the clothes in a separete layer

[tender mulch]

I wanted to. But I uh.... Kinda don't have access to layers

[outer basin]

If you don't have access to layers, your options are:

1. Switch to a program that supports layers (aka the best option)

2. After you are done with making all of the outfits, carefully remove each non-outfit pixel

Either way, I suggest making a #1050404143807873157 thread for your outfit so you have a place to keep all your updates

[hollow vale]

I think a cc contest would be fun to host... But I have no idea how to start an event

[sour juniper]

Get in touch with Pory! I think it would be really cool too

[hollow vale]

Will do
I think it'd be fun to make an outfit contest for PIF Hoenn... Outfits based on Hoenn pokemon, perhaps

[sour juniper]

Ouhh absolutely!!

[next cosmos]

Specifically outfits and not hats. That one template could help a lot here so people aren't downloading 7 templates

[hollow vale]

Yeah, ideally it would be for outfits

But we'll see what Pory says! Idea has been idea'd, so we'll just have to pinpoint a time in the future

[next cosmos]

I love this one, I think @latent hazel made it? I modified it to personal preferences and made it more dark mode cause my eyes are old and sensitive

[hollow vale]

That is absolutely lovely. I may use that

<- has been doing separate images

[latent hazel]

my art program only has light mode so im used to being blinded

[next cosmos]

This has been a god send

[latent hazel]

hehehheeheh

[next cosmos]

here is the original I think, dont remember if the gray background was there or I put it there before deciding to redo it

[latent hazel]

no grey bg and the left stuff was on the right

[next cosmos]

Ahh gotcha

[twin oyster]

hey paya i was watching uncommonsoap stream and i just noticed i left the hat in the flying outfit only in main one

do i do a error report or just cut it off and sent it

[next cosmos]

Oh that wasnt in purpose? you can submit a fix or make a report

[twin oyster]

nope the hat has its own file and i checked its still there also theres no point in having a hat in the outfit since hairs go over it

[twin oyster]

the fix is that one but ill make a report just to keep it organized since i know u have to much shit going on

[next cosmos]

Thanks I appreciate it

[rapid elbow]

What do I do now that my hat is finished?

[snow escarp]

another hat

[next cosmos]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1324876611119743087 follow the submitting files part of the instructions

[rapid elbow]

should i remove the background i wasnt sure on that

oh wait

i dont need the trainer at all

[next cosmos]

Huh? Yeah, you need the trainer file, and it must only be the clothing. Not the body or background. You didnt submit the background on the others right?

[rapid elbow]

no i didnt submit anything yet

I wasn't entirely sure on the size and stuff

so just the hat? at 80 pixel size?

oos

i cant erad

read

it says 2x

ok

im really bad at skimming

so like this right?

[hollow vale]

Hat overworld resolution should be 80 x 320 upscaled, and trainer should be 160 x 160

[outer basin]

I submitted another batch of hats

[sour juniper]

Holy shit nice!

[hollow vale]

Frog did you like the baby hair I made

[outer basin]

You were told in the artwork channel already to follow rule 22