custom-outfits-discussion

[outer basin]

It's not Ramos without the danger scissors

His holster is bare

[bright crown]

We do get shears as a cut replacement item, so we do have them

But I guess it's not the same as his

[buoyant prairie]

maybe they're that big

[cursive sapphire]

It's in the pokeball

[cursive sapphire]

Eri outfit submitted

[bleak pewter]

any ways to improve this? I'm working on adapting this gal to PIF.

[lone yoke]

Widen the "bell" of the dress a bit?

[bleak pewter]

yeah, instead of having it cling to her ankles? I'll try

here's the OG ref

[lone yoke]

ok yeah so spread out the red a little but keep the flare in from the og, I made it a bit too round in the remix

(I remain entirely unaware of many fictional characters, even pokemon ones, so I miss references though looking back I should have figured something when you said "adapting this gal")

[bleak pewter]

she's the psychic elite four from bw

[lone yoke]

also, also! keep in mind clothes, hair, and hat are three seperate files!

You may have already done this, and even if not, it's not a hard fix, just thought I'd mention

Yeah that would do it... the only NPCs I remember from Unova are Alder, Bianca, Cheren, and Clay

[bleak pewter]

don't worry it's not my first time imagine doing only one layer, hell

[twin oyster]

Does this hair fit in the 80x80 canvas?

[bleak pewter]

it's on 160x160, will it cause problems?

[twin oyster]

Originally a Frontier brain in gen 4 tho the buttler did the actual battling

[bleak pewter]

oh yeah, the training under cynthia thing

[twin oyster]

Ok is 160x160 but with 2x2 pixels rigth?

Ok then

[bleak pewter]

glad she went off to duel on her own; although her butler was pretty cool

aight, I'll prolly do a third version tommorow, it's late and my brain's mush

feel like shading's off, as well as the volume of the skirt.

[sage quest]

Cancer lore

[snow escarp]

Bc bald?

Btw just saw that but I don't think you're supposed to edit the face, if you used the base's skin color pixels it will look strange on a different base

[latent hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/dumbass-fox-invisible-dance-beams-dacning-fox-fox-gif-24575300

[next cosmos]

Looks like a metapod that they took creative liberty with

To bring back the conversation about Kris, I'm working on it I started all protags and gym leaders a year ago and got busy with manager things, but Kris is my absolute favorite as well. It's easier to convert newer trainers, but she needs a whole rework from scratch

I'm gonna pick this back up and finish more

[slow barn]

woo yay!im very excite,

[latent hazel]

i think im going to upload the sudowoodo horns if they're all good

[next cosmos]

Pretty much finished Lyra since it looks like I had already finished her overworld

Used an image from one of her pokemon masters outfits to get an idea of what she looks like under the hat

submitted

[next cosmos]

Currently working on hilda and short haired sabrina

[ionic lichen]

Love the female hair on this man face it looks so funny

[next cosmos]

I would love facial expressions

I want to make outfits but OWs are so daunting

[ionic lichen]

So are you doing only hair then?

[snow escarp]

I wish hair used 2 layers and that different faces were possible

[next cosmos]

For now yeah, although I may take a stab at kris and hilda's outfits. They're my favorites maybe rosa too

Shorter Sabrina and Hilda hairs are done

[twin oyster]

so after the team vs event im running (sada vs turo) ends who should be the prices for the next team vs event, i already have a plan but i migth change it

[next cosmos]

Plan for what? Protag outfits?

[twin oyster]

probably not protag as i said the event currently runnin is past vs future winning team gets either professor sada or turo outfit

[next cosmos]

Oh I see, sorry misread

[twin oyster]

(its gonna be sada...)

[next cosmos]

prehistoric mommy

[halcyon grove]

-# I love her

[errant parrot]

Yayyy

[ionic lichen]

For Turo the hair is way more unique than the outfit. For Sada they are both pretty unique.

[next cosmos]

I feel like making his hair with a beard would be possible. 2 for 1

[twin oyster]

Or people just like drawing dinosaurs

[halcyon grove]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-professor-sada-adieu-i-bid-you-adieu-gif-4133701001010365450

I just like Professor Mommy

[lone yoke]

I feel like sada would beat turo in arm wrestling

That's the metric on which I judge all outcomes

[latent hazel]

is this good to post?

[ionic lichen]

That's a very odd and specific outcome, but I also don't think it's a contest in this instance.
However, I am curious how Sada managed to make ||the android|| and ||the Time Machine||. She doesn't seem as technical as Turo

[bleak pewter]

not sure I understand. The demo I used is a modified player base (trainer_6, mostly just the face and some shading, but the silhouette and proportions are the same-) but I could just as well change player_default and I haven't noticed any in-game issues.

[twin oyster]

As long as the final export is just hair and clothes is fine, edits to eyes lips or skin color is a no go

[twin oyster]

Dude in the Pokémon world they had random teleporting tiles since the late 90s , im sure any collage graduate can build multidimetional machines, which explains why most dont even go to middle school and also why there where 40y.o in the same school as u in sv

[ionic lichen]

I mean, our world has had computers for about as long, and I doubt most normal people could build a computer and all the microchips and the circuitry and especially the semiconductor. So I don't necessarily think that's the case at all, just specific individuals perfecting technology that's mass-produced and most people use it but don't understand it

[bleak pewter]

haah no, at most, Im only posting the hair atm. Hats pngs are done but clothes will take a while.

Also do you mean we just can't submit custom bases? Cauz everyone with an editing software knows how to do layers

[latent hazel]

oh shit, is that multi slot hats like in lob corp or can you fully customized clothes placement?

(like is there a glasses slot, a hat slot, and a mask slot or can the player choose what outfit piece is placed where?)

[twin oyster]

Doble hat

https://tenor.com/view/avivasofia-cap-gif-25393902

[sour juniper]

It's a second hat slot! It's a general hat slot so it can be anything, no matter if it's glasses, masks, etc

[cerulean stirrup]

i think it would be cool if we got a chef hat
i think that would be pretty swell

[latent hazel]

swag

[latent hazel]

uploaded bruxish crown

somebody got the glitched set from a random battle that had a sprite

doubt it's a worrisome bug (it's a glitch outfit so it fits ig) but just a note

[halcyon grove]

I need it

[latent hazel]

do I edit the hat to make the shade all from the left?

red is current light, blue is new light concept

[obsidian quartz]

are thier custom bases, wondering if its possible to have access to diffrent eyes?

[twin oyster]

no

[obsidian quartz]

dang, any chance diffrent eye types are going to get added in the future?

[twin oyster]

no

[obsidian quartz]

thats pretty disappointing

[latent hazel]

thinking about making a klingklang hat that's just floating gears above the head

[halcyon grove]

Oooo that’d be cool

[latent hazel]

I need to wait for the person who requested the absol hat to respond before i submit it

[next cosmos]

Finished Kris's outfit. It didn't come out well, but hopefully it's passable until someone makes a better version

Edit: I did submit it and the OW ones actually look decent in game c: trainer could be so much better though

Feel free to edit. I don't want to do another outfit again If I do, it'll probably be half done and submitted to the "needs fixing" drive

[latent hazel]

making outfits is hell

[next cosmos]

accidentally left some skin tone on the trainer sprite. If anyone is actually interested in redoing it, I can post the versions without any of the bases

[next cosmos]

Kudos to those who have the patience, it's so difficult. And by all means this wasn't nearly as difficult as a dress could be

[latent hazel]

the upside to the outfits is that you have a high chance of seeing somebody use it in game

[next cosmos]

Tried different things with her hair to further remove her from lyra, but it's not going well May have to deal with sharing the same hair (although that second picture is funny enough that I kinda want to do it as a joke)

I want to try seeing if I can work on finishing other protags too, there are plenty of hair and hats that I've been sitting on for over a year, so I should just finish them

[scarlet saffron]

Gonna do Emerald PokéSPE hair?

[next cosmos]

Nah Kris, but that would be wild

[snow escarp]

so weird to see the haircut without the teal color

[next cosmos]

Before I went to bed I made it blue and it looks so much better. When I get back on my computer I'll show you. Also edited the kris hat too, what's in game was slapped together and was unfinished, it wasn't meant to be used yet already updated in the drive

[next cosmos]

Unsure which side to go with, but that top row brings me joy so silly but most accurate

[lone yoke]

I'm a fan of the top row

Kris' hair is, frankly, stupid (like most pokemon protags ) but I think the top is the most readable

I like it!

does anybody know off hand what order the fishing animation plays in? or better yet, have some reference footage of someone fishing in PIF?

[next cosmos]

I can go on the dev file real quick to see

[scarlet saffron]

I did do a fishing animation test with one of my outfits, not sure if it helps though 🤔

[next cosmos]

I only use aseprite for character customization, I havent figured out how to watch frames. That seems incredibly helpful

[halcyon grove]

The little dress swoosh is so cute

[full quartz]

i can get some ref footage

[lone yoke]

sino fishing stream in real

[full quartz]

for some reason the animation is So fast (i was on normal speed for everything but the first cast) but hopefully this works

just... ig slow it down manually

why does the player sprite go Down.....

[lone yoke]

idk, but frame analysis has revealed that the player sprite goes down one frame before the hair!

[halcyon grove]

Amazing

It is kinda weird cause it looks like the player was originally floating lmao

Wait, I wonder if that’s why it looks like you’re further forward than oak when going to the HoF too

[snow escarp]

the sprite also go up before the hair

[lone yoke]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1333636591784296501

one month later... oops

anything before I submit this beast of a project?

[full quartz]

im ufcKING BALDDD

[proper hearth]

who made being pokespe yellow an option. i need to personally thank them

[proper hearth]

love is stored in the yellow <3

[scarlet saffron]

Me :3

Emerald’s outfit is in there too if you spot it out 👀

POKÉSPE SWEEP!!!

https://tenor.com/view/pokespe-red-green-yellow-blue-gif-24070761

[proper hearth]

THANK YOUUU

[next cosmos]

Finally done with Kris, I hope I did her justice! Included her teal as a 5th color too

[halcyon grove]

That looks great tbh

Better than I could’ve ever done

[next cosmos]

Thank you now to update every single clothing sprite to reflect the new shorts colors. I realize when I put everything together that I used completely different colors tbf, I was sitting on the hat for over a year before I took this up. Glad I've found my spark for character customization again. I was sick for a while there and this was the only thing I could do

Only thing I'm not happy with is the trainer outfit. I'm treating it as a placeholder until someone makes a better jacket lol

[next cosmos]

I think I'll actually do the gen 5 protags next, players need more options

[lone yoke]

all 4 of em?

[rancid spindle]

Wait what’s this from

I know the manga but never knew it was ever animated

But is there a yellow outfit

[latent hazel]

sorry for pinging here but could you respond to my dm? it's related to your CC request

[scarlet saffron]

Fan made I believe

[scarlet saffron]

And yes, that’s what they showed in the screenshot lol

[latent hazel]

nvm im just going to post it

bald

[rancid spindle]

Yes

[next cosmos]

That's what I'm hoping

[cerulean stirrup]

omg thats such a cute outfit

[cerulean stirrup]

peakkk

[cerulean stirrup]

oooo

[latent hazel]

edits from some feedback

somebody else revamped the design and I liked it so I'm just making their design fcvghbjn

[next cosmos]

I could not help myself, it needed to be redone I'll never get to work on other things at this rate

Okay starting on gen 5 I promise. Sorry for suddenly appearing, when I was working on these last it was just me, Kiwi, and Frog in the early stages of CC development almost a year and a half ago. It's much nicer actually being able to talk with other people and get feedback

[halcyon grove]

Perfectionist Paya go brr

[next cosmos]

It's a curse

[next cosmos]

looking sick!

[short helm]

Yo, I come here from the pokemon fusion spriter channel, how does this work here? Do I just post the outfit in sprite work and then place them in the drive after you think they are good to go?

Also, is there a way to make sure my idea wasn't already made by someone else?

[twin oyster]

Yes basically, read the pins cause every part of an outfit require diferent things

[twin oyster]

In the pins theres a accepted drive which has all that have been accepted

[short helm]

Thinking of making a lurantis inspired outfit btw! I'll check for both of those things you mentioned and then get sketching

[latent hazel]

tbh I used to post in spritework but the lack of feedback just makes it more of a chore. from what I've seen, people normally just post here and get general feedback before working on overworld and then posting to the drive

[short helm]

I see, I'll post it here, but still try to make a thread for it tho, it kinda has become part of the process for me lmao

[latent hazel]

swag! im not great with feedback so I hope this thread is more active with other people when you post

[short helm]

On the side view, I feel like the further antenna should not be visible

Actually, scratch that

The view is somewhat from above, so it should

[median robin]

is there perchance a jack o lantern or pumpkin mask/head

or does anyone have the time and skill to make one so i can swap sprites

[latent hazel]

I can try that for pumpkaboo or gourgeist

[median robin]

whar

oh like as a pokemon outfit

if you would it'd be cool

[latent hazel]

I've been doing pkm based hats since there's a character in game that gives pokemon based items and I'm too lazy to make actual outfits

[lone yoke]

making outfits hurts my soul

[latent hazel]

somebody requested a masc version of the water type outfit, a gender neutral goth/emo outfit, and masc versions of clothes with only dress variants

we don't have enough outfit spriters to cover all of those but I prob should make the water type outfit since it's mine-

[lone yoke]

I personally think dresses are already gender neutral but it's not a debate I have any chance of winning

I have noticed quite a few outfits in the submissions folder that were rejected for a few basic technical things (nontransparent background, wrong scale, etc). Some of them have been there for a while now, and I'm curious if the original spriters even know- a lot of them seem like quick 5 minute fixes

[latent hazel]

oh no I agree but societally it's still considered gendered

personally I'm not a huge dresses person so I can see it from the point of view of having more clothing variations in specific styles since dresses tend to lean softer and more flowy and a lot of non-dress outfits are more casual and stiff

[lone yoke]

Yeah more options is never a bad thing

[latent hazel]

I do have a "masc" water type fit in the works but it's a dif style

found it

[lone yoke]

love the mystic water necklace lmao

honestly I could see that working as is

[latent hazel]

sadly im too lazy to make it atm and i need to work in adobe illustrator

[twin oyster]

some of them have already been fixed but frogman doesnt update that folder

[lone yoke]

fair enough

part of me wishes the outfit drives had a better system

but another part of me knows that upkeep for a submission system is a lot of work for such a small benefit

[slow barn]

omg this is amazing

[next cosmos]

Glad you like it!

[next cosmos]

I actually fixed a couple in the "needs fixing" folder, but I'm sure people don't know. As far as i know, everything that's in the rejected folder are for actual reasons and more than just some technical hiccups

[next cosmos]

Which folder? There is a "fixed" folder for fixed sprites and that one is always empty 🤔

[latent hazel]

AH I SUBMITTED THIS HAT IN THE WRONG SIZE

[twin oyster]

That one gets emptied when frogman puts them in game is the need changes that never gets cleaned

[lone yoke]

slapped together a design that I like for a Bisharp themed outfit

only to realize that it would quite possibly be the absolute worst outfit to try and make overworld sprites for

[halcyon grove]

Oooooo that’s cool

[latent hazel]

ooooo

[ionic lichen]

'Big stupid shoulder cape'

https://tenor.com/view/i-cannot-find-the-words-to-say-how-i-feel-i-cant-think-of-other-words-i-dont-know-what-to-say-maggie-smith-how-i-feel-gif-13042951491428663907

[lone yoke]

big stupid can be a compliment

[vapid gyro]

If you add an adorned rapier or something similar you'll have my heart

[marble flame]

I just got done making my own clothes can someone tell me how to put them in the game?

[lone yoke]

I could definitely add something like that to the trainer sprite, but issues would likely arise with the overworld spritesheets. So maybe.

[vapid gyro]

Mhmm

[latent hazel]

if it's added onto the back, it'll be easier to sprite than on the side since it's a solid large object with more space to work with

[lone yoke]

Yeah, I've considered that, and I think it's the only way I'd be able to do it

It would also mean I don't have to worry about any outline chicanery

but it does lose some of the cool factor imo- especially with a dress sword like a rapier or saber that are meant to be worn at the hip

[latent hazel]

also this makes me want to try pokemon based outfits again, I have an idea for the crown i made for trev but it'd be a nightmare to shade

[latent hazel]

yeah I was going to mention it'd have better shape language with it on the hip

[lone yoke]

The biggest concern I have are the biking, surfing, and diving sprites... but maybe it wouldn't be too bad to have the sword on the hip most of the time and move it to the back when necessary?

[latent hazel]

you could have the sword be at the side but facing sideways

[lone yoke]

define sideways lol

[latent hazel]

like resting vertically rather than being affected by gravity

horizontally

sory

[lone yoke]

I suppose, yeah

Worth a shot, at least

[lone yoke]

I LOVE TURNING COLOR SCHEMES AND ABSTRACT CONCEPTS INTO FASHION

AND THEN TURNING THAT FASHION INTO FUTURE CARPAL TUNNEL

[latent hazel]

I ALREADY HAVE CARPEL TUNNEL!!!!!! I WIN! /hj

[lone yoke]

[latent hazel]

ok my wrist is getting tired

[latent hazel]

I JUST REALIZED THIS IS BECOMING A RIPOFF OF THE REALLY COOL LYCANROCK OUTFIT

I PROMISE IT WASN'T INTENTIONAL

[full quartz]

imo i think its unique enough

[lone yoke]

as long as the positioning isn't the exact same, I see nothing wrong with it

Multiple different outfits can have big cloaks for the same reason multiple different outfits can have skirts

[latent hazel]

I have to work on a project but here's an update

[lone yoke]

changed some things from the concept:

• Cape shortened
• Cape blades and cleft removed (for my own sanity going forward)
• Boots shortened
• Added steel toe caps
• Added a real ass goddamn sword

I'm probably going to tweak the sword later to make it look a bit less like it was pasted on, I want to fill in some of the empty space on the cape, and I still have to decide on how the shoulder cape looks from the back (it's probably just going to be tapered shorter), but in the meantime, any feedback is appreciated!

(I'm considering adding a feather to the hat but I'm gonna be real here, I don't know how to draw feathers)

[lone yoke]

made a sword, you owe me one vital organ

[latent hazel]

YEAAAH YOU GET A SWORD WAHOOO

[lone yoke]

anti aliasing a 2x3 slope is a BITCH and I'll never get used to it no matter how many times I do it

[latent hazel]

making straight lines while working with pixel art </3

[lone yoke]

You'd think making a straight line out of other straight lines would be easy

I do a lot of 3d modeling and I exclusively do hard surface because I can't model organic stuff for shit

but in pixel art? it is SO much easier to make an organic curve than an angled line

[latent hazel]

speaking of 3d models, i managed to break somehting while 3d modeling a project and i think my computer is haunted

[vapid gyro]

I can give you the largest hedgehog I've ever caught instead

[lone yoke]

I'll take it

[latent hazel]

IM FINALLY FREE TO SPRITE!!!

MY NECK HURTS THOUGH

[lone yoke]

LEAVES

good leaves. Good plant. Tree man

[latent hazel]

im proud of it, kinda want to drop it again in discussion sobs

[full quartz]

dude if this is in the game by the time i do my grass run im using it

[latent hazel]

im not having fun

[lone yoke]

yeah that checks out

[latent hazel]

i have to go take a break ourgh I WANT TO SPRITE

[lone yoke]

I've only had time for a first pass at overworld so far and I already discovered that the sword on the hip is not feasible

so here's an attempt on the back

[latent hazel]

oooo

as a note: the shades are a bit similar and blend too much

the gradient kinda is pillowshady-ey

[lone yoke]

yeah, I've been meaning to find at least a new red or two

I've been putting it off and I don't know why

I don't want to have another "finished 4 of the overworld sheets and then made a stylistic change" moment

I should get on that before I make the first spritesheet, but I think I'll try and at least finish the standing sprite from all 4 sides just to see what design elements I want to cut, if any

[lone yoke]

how's this?

Only changed the red, I feel like the gray and white are in a good spot rn

I do want to take another look at the golds, but I'll have to consider all angles to make sure I can get the concepts across with a lower color count

[lone yoke]

I may have to cut () the sword entirely it's causing a lot of problems even as a static back decoration

I'm not going to remove it just yet but I wouldn't be surprised if I get rid of if before the first spritesheet is done

[toxic lance]

is there any jojo bizzare adventure outfit refrences

[latent hazel]

there are no outfit sprites that are references nor are reference outfits allowed (I'm guessing it's because the outfits would be FILLED with random and obscure outfits from different media and there'd be no custom designs or outfits from the pokemon series)

[umbral pulsar]

btw is it possible to make a heehee mask

[halcyon grove]

Only if you know the fusion of the emoji

[umbral pulsar]

I mean just heehee

[next cosmos]

I would end up wearing it so much I forget my character's face

[halcyon grove]

LMAO

[opal drift]

I understand why, but like, spriters can make reference fusions. For outfits maybe instead of naming them directly it was more like what it actually is. So like, say someone made Miku’s classic outfit, instead of calling it Miku clothes, it’s called like virtual idol outfit. But I guess that doesn’t really fix the issue. Could tie ref outfits to the specialist designer tho

[lone yoke]

isn't the whole point of the specialist designer to host pokemon themed clothing

[opal drift]

I guess? Just an idea cus I can’t request an outfit as it falls under the ref category

[lone yoke]

and spriters can make reference outfits, they just won't get added to the game (because unlike fusion sprites, clothing has to be added to the game directly by frog)

[opal drift]

Yeah which sucks

[lone yoke]

it's the nature of the beast

there's infrastructure for adding fusion sprites because someone makes a new one every 20 minutes

clothing needs to be acquired as its own thing in game, so it needs a bit of manual input at the very least, but more than that a single outfit takes days to make (not to mention the list of clothing spriters is a lot shorter than the list of fusion spriters)

[opal drift]

Also true, it just doesn’t seem fair tho, especially cus ppl might request a ref outfit and not know about the rule

Since it’s not clearly stated anywhere

[lone yoke]

yeah the whole custom outfit submission thing could use a fresh coat of paint

it's just not high priority

[latent hazel]

I'm used to the submission system but

there are so many things in hindsight that need to be added

one thing is that outfit pieces based on pokemon should be named after those pokemon for ease of sorting and finding them, it's something i was thinking of and have been doing but

[latent hazel]

my hand is being really bad today >:[

[outer basin]

It's clearly stated in the idea submission form
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdMEm8Zo5xCMYkSKyYRPCcj1yQu1Sfb9sIvsWszGh0x-fEOUg/viewform

But I don't think anyone actually uses the form

[opal drift]

Exactly

[halcyon grove]

-# there’s a form?

[opal drift]

What I meant was it’s not really visible publicly

[outer basin]

Yeah, it's linked in #custom-outfits-submissions

[opal drift]

I just want my silly hair style from Miku lmao

But rules be rules

[halcyon grove]

I don’t think the average player requesting an outfit will ever see that

[outer basin]

You could probably make a miku-inspired hairstyle
It's not like twin pigtails are terribly canon-breaking

[opal drift]

https://tenor.com/view/onyxsoup-hatsune-miku-magical-mirai-2023-mm23-miku-mm23-gif-3917685034585649679

It’s this

I can’t really request it without making it a reference

[twin oyster]

ok so my event is over but i kinda started this ealier cause the size diferent in the teams

[twin oyster]

think theres any chance frogman counts this as the rock type one since their prehistoric its related to the fossils

[lone yoke]

I feel like it could qualify, given that it's different enough from the actual character (no labcoat)

no promises of course

[next cosmos]

that moment when you realize you have an old, early developmment version of the walk animation template and everything you've made on it is a pixel off in one direction 🥲 I've made so many hairs and hats

Also noticed an issue when hue shift on hair 1. The highlight becomes a wonky color instead of a lighter shade donno if its worth fixing, cause that would require every single hair be edited

[next cosmos]

What are your thoughts guys? I would assemble a team together to fix the highlight on all current hairstyles, but I'd need a suggestion on what shade/tone to make it. The highlight on the others aren't that bad so I dont think it's needed

[lone yoke]

do you have any examples of the wonkiness? I'd like to see it because it sounds both silly AND goofy

[next cosmos]

It's not exciting lol, blends with the second shade too much and is in a slightly different hue family. I'll boot up the game

I think we made these colors before implementing the hue shift system if I remember correctly 🤔 its been a long time

[sour juniper]

Love the template with everything in the same image! Would you mind sharing the template without the clothes? I'll add it to the templates drive

[latent hazel]

yeah one second, let me clean up the board since there's extra junk on it
check if it's the right thing, the colors and sprites might be outdated i haven;t checked

anything im forgetting here?

[sour juniper]

Looks good, tysm!

[latent hazel]

also let me get the dif skin colors, I don't have the trainer sprite skin colors so i need a second to grab them from my trainer file

[next cosmos]

for the light pink I use, the highlight is kina orange

color 2 also has a little bit of a wonky highlight, but it's not nearly as bad

[lone yoke]

ah yes

pink

[latent hazel]

the blonde hair's highlight is the same light level but a dif color from what i remeber

[next cosmos]

Donno if saturation is a factor here as well

some greens almost have a blue highlight

[halcyon grove]

Ooooooooooooo file sharinggggggggg

[latent hazel]

these are missing the lighter pale color but i forgot if that was added in game or not

wait does tech staff get summoned when files are shared???

[halcyon grove]

Nah, I’m just lurking

[next cosmos]

wish we caught it during testing, it works great on its own

[latent hazel]

oh I was worried whenever i sent over sprite zips for outfit testing that it pinged tech

[next cosmos]

Thank you! this will be so helpful be prepared to edit the one hair shade if we go through with changing it

[latent hazel]

i don't make hair styles so you might want to remind me when i do another full set

[next cosmos]

sounds good!

now to move every single hat/hairstyle/and the one outfit I made over by one singular pixel to the right for every single frame when looking/walking to the right. Kill me

[latent hazel]

sobs

also want to hear an awful fun fact
just anybody here because I know it causes psychic damage and im bored

[next cosmos]

[latent hazel]

all my outfit sprites rest on two files. i refuse to make more files

[next cosmos]

Oh me too

[latent hazel]

unsorted mess <3

[next cosmos]

I only use aseprite for character customization. I have a file dedicated to trainers sprites for all hair/hats/and outfits, a file for all hair and outfits, and another file for all hats. For all my work that is, not every single one in the game

[latent hazel]

I have a file for the trainer card sprite and then overworlds

[next cosmos]

I'm gonna make another file using your template for outfits its going to be so helpful

[latent hazel]

swag

just make sure all the sprites are lined up. they should be since that board was used with outfits that are centered properly but just in case

[terse flint]

eevee

[ancient solstice]

So during my IF playthrough, I battled this trainer and got this line of dialogue once I talked to him after defeating him. I think this is the perfect opportunity for him to give you a wearable helmet. However, I can't art, so I was wondering if someone would be willing to make a helmet for him to give you

[lone yoke]

Honestly when I saw this in game suggestions I immediately started looking for to see if there was already a helmet somewhere

(I didn't end up finding one)

[latent hazel]

no disrespect but you posted this request here, game suggestions, AND requests god damn

to be fair i did see it so it worked for getting like the 5 people doing outfits regularly to see it

[snow escarp]

they really want the game to be OSHA compliant

[ancient solstice]

TBF, I forgot that outfits could be suggested via #sprite-requests until Worm reminded me

[ionic lichen]

Sometimes that's the best way to get something done so I actually applaud the effort

[runic moth]

how does one get/make a custom sprite?

[lone yoke]

You're... gonna have to be more specific

This channel is specifically about custom outfits, if you're interested in fusion sprites, look elsewhere

If you are looking for custom outfits, you can request an outfit in #sprite-requests or make one yourself by spriting over the templates in #custom-outfits-submissions

I will say now that making custom outfits is a lengthy process, so don't expect immediate results either way

[lone yoke]

took a break this weekend, now it's back to my normal sliver of progress every day

Took a whack at the standing overworld textures. Still have the sword, still a bit iffy about it (those side sprites are gonna be rough if I keep it)

Beyond that, I like what I've got so far. Still need to figure out how visible the cape should be on the right facing sprite.

side view of the hats could use some lengthening, or at least a nudge forward

Oh, another thing- this is my first time making an asymmetrical trainer sprite. Should I be matching the asymmetry of the overworld sprites to the trainer sprite, or should I be reversing it? I know the trainer sprite is usually seen mirrored, at the start of battles

[sharp gale]

WHERE?

I NEED THIS TELL ME WHERE.

[safe crow]

Could someone make a water spesiliest male clothes? all I got for beeting her was a dress and my chareter for this run is male

[halcyon grove]

#custom-outfits-discussion message

[safe crow]

Ohh, thank you

[full quartz]

i REALLY enjoy how the f outfit is like

[vast light]

Sapphire | Tech/Mod (7/10) is AFK: Sleepy Time - 3 hours ago

[full quartz]

this gorgeous dress

and the m outfit is like

Fisher Dad

[toxic lance]

is there a Jojo bizzare adventure outfit I can find somewhere?

[latent hazel]

i... need to make an m water fit but the current one i have is more casual and a dif style

[latent hazel]

found some older designs

found the pearled version

any of these of interest for a more gender neutral outfit>

[lone yoke]

I'm still a fan of the Hawaiian shirt and cargo shorts tbh

But if you want it to match the dress a little closer, probably the pearls one?

[foggy field]

hey yall. i have a great idea but ive been wondering if theres a way i can add my own sprite into the game?

[lone yoke]

It can be done, if you can make it

[latent hazel]

like submitting them in the game or adding them personally?

[latent hazel]

I do like them but people want something similar to the dress

and I don't want to gender lock aesthetics

[lone yoke]

This is in reference to the outfit you were talking about in #general , right? Keep in mind that references to non-pokemon media aren't accepted unless they fit the universe

[foggy field]

yeah it is, if i just add it personally would that really change anything?

[lone yoke]

I think the dress and the Hawaiian shirt are both pretty neutral but, once again, I know not everyone thinks dresses or skirts can be masculine

[foggy field]

cause i can make it, but if its not worth the hassle i dont have to do it

[lone yoke]

... I'm actually not sure if you can add clothing directly to the game like you can fusions

[latent hazel]

you can prob replace an outfit with yours

[foggy field]

i mean its not necessarily clothing, more of an entire sprite persay

[latent hazel]

yeah you can just replace sprites

[twin oyster]

i think theyrent all that neutral but are pretty equivalent, much more than that pearled one that i would consider a gen neutral more that a male one

[outer basin]

This would be so perfect for my normal mono run
(My player character in that file is named Eevee)

[latent hazel]

clothes shouldn't be gendered but we aren't immune to propaganda </3 it is what it is, best we can do is give the option

[latent hazel]

ok these are basically done

ill sort them later and ask somebody to test them in game

[latent hazel]

need this tested before i post it

[next cosmos]

Completely redoing dawn's hat, which forward facing do we like more?

With her (unfinished) hair. Looks like I need to widen it a bit to play nice, but I'm mainly debating on having the lip or not. Although seeing it like this, I'm kinda digging the no lip version. it's present on the other frames so its not lost

rest of the sprite for reference, old vs new

[latent hazel]

hell yeah

[next cosmos]

I guess this is the benefit of having everything being a pixel off a lot of my unfinished work is in the game currently, and I can't stand seeing them in this state

[next cosmos]

decided to go with the second version that shows the lip of hte hat c: thankfully I'm almost done with all my protag hats, and then after that are some misc hats, as well as unfinished ones that arent in the game, like headbands. I have some hairs I want to finish too, this will hopefully be an exciting update. I've already fixed a lot

[latent hazel]

sorry for changing the topic but I need somebody to test the trev set in game to check if it's all good

[next cosmos]

All good, I cant test right now

[latent hazel]

aw fuck

[latent hazel]

the biking looks so goofy lmao

let me fix the trainer sprite and ill submit it

[umbral pulsar]

Oops I just realized I forgot to record the sound track. The background music here really matchs the outfit

[latent hazel]

fixed, will submit these

[hexed edge]

got to debug island in 6.whateber and there aint no way to change hairstyles, unless i have not found it (very plausible)

[full quartz]

there is not a way to change hairstyles on the debug island 😔

[next cosmos]

revamped the silly SM hat and somehow it works with almost all the hairstyles I've made

[halcyon grove]

Ooooo that looks good! I can imagine going from 3D to 2D can be a challenge

[next cosmos]

old vs new for the OW too

Thank youuuuu. This is what I had it at before, it needed some love

Also made elio hats, and selene's USUM hat as well. As of right right gens 1-7 are all completed hat wise

[latent hazel]

sneasel is a mess is it an ear or a feather???

[snow escarp]

both

maybe you could do a hairband?

[latent hazel]

na the request was just the feather

[snow escarp]

I would move the sides on more toward the back

it looks like it's on the forehead atm

[ancient solstice]

Surprisingly, this wasn’t my request

[latent hazel]

im not making the helmet, already got a lot planned

[ancient solstice]

No, I mean it’s surprising that I wasn’t the one making the request for a Sneasel feather

[latent hazel]

oooh

[copper holly]

Jokes aside loving the new hat ideas

[next cosmos]

Great! cause I made concepts last night for 30-35 standalone hats it'll take a while, but I'm excited for the goofy ones

[latent hazel]

i've been doing a lot of concepts for pokemon themed hats for that one npc that gives you them

[next cosmos]

Yesssss

Also where are you finding outfit requests? Is it included in the #sprite-requests channel or are people contacting you directly?

[lone yoke]

I've seen em in the request channel from time to time

though I've gotten more requests just talking in general or playthrough talk. I'll bring up that I'm working on an outfit and it's suddenly "oh you do outfits? You should make a-"

to which I usually respond that I am not fast and it takes me a month or more to make anything other than a hat

[ionic lichen]

A month is actually shocking, considering how much work even a single outfit requires. I think people just either don't know or drastically underestimate exactly how much work the full outfits will require.

I'd say that's pretty good

[willow bay]

How much money do i need to pay to get Vent and Aile's hairstyles from Mega Man ZX Advent

(Especially Vent's, the one on the right)

[latent hazel]

sorry, ref sprites for outfits isn't allowed :( one similar in design can be made but it can't be a direct reference

[willow bay]

i'm just talking the hairstyle

[lone yoke]

I mean the hairstyles could probably be done

[willow bay]

nothing else

[lone yoke]

They might have to be tweaked a bit

[willow bay]

also stupid question, is facial hair ever gonna be an option?

i assume the answer is no

there's a disturbing lack of masculine long hairstyles anyway

[latent hazel]

i mean, somebody could make facial hair as a hat, with the future update of multiple hat slots it could work

[willow bay]

N's ponytail is really all you get i think

[lone yoke]

I mean... you can just put on any of the long hair

[willow bay]

it doesn't quite look right to me

[latent hazel]

tbh the long hair styles need less silky styles, need a bit more texture in them

[lone yoke]

MORE SPIKES

[willow bay]

I couldn't put my finger on it, but this might just be what it is.

[next cosmos]

I will be making chuck's hairstyle which comes with muttonchops it's just funny to me, cause your character can be 10 years old

[opal drift]

Isn’t it only for stuff that isn’t established in Pokemon canon?

[snow escarp]

that makes want a hairstyle that add a beard or a mustache now

[next cosmos]

Do it

I thiiiiink it should be okay, maybe not too thick. I wonder if transparent pixels would work for this

[vivid delta]

has a white hand on your shoulder been done? i really want to try my, heh, hand at it

[latent hazel]

go for it

[tender mulch]

Aww yeah. I am totally gonna make an outfit based on my IRL style.

[snow escarp]

maybe I could do this guy's haircut and beard
would that be tame enough?

[latent hazel]

i think that'dbe neat

[snow escarp]

or I could do drayden but that might be too much

if I do either I'll prob do a beardless version

[ionic lichen]

His beard hair makes ZERO sense, literally no one has facial hair that grows like this

[snow escarp]

it's cool tho
it looks like an underbite

[ionic lichen]

[willow bay]

where are the outfits located in the game files

i'd like to make a midnight version of the lycanroc coat

[vivid delta]

first take. (white hand) thoughts?

[outer wyvern]

The creepy pasta

[sour juniper]

I love the idea

[next cosmos]

the dark outline on the wrist is a little too harsh and isn't coming across as attached

Otherwise great job and I absolutely love this

[next cosmos]

I meant to ask you, do semi transparent pixels work? this would be the perfect opportunity to try it out. Have the back have more transparency

[latent hazel]

check how it looks against other skin colors, usually lighter outlines blend in with darker skin tones from my experience

[next cosmos]

good call

[sour juniper]

Yes

[next cosmos]

Sweet, I would totally be down to try this out with you, SandGuy

[next cosmos]

is this hat supposed to be this tiny? this was recently submitted and want to make sure

[next cosmos]

fun fact, one of my doodles from the beginning of character customization is still in the game files

[full quartz]

Perfect

[halcyon grove]

[next cosmos]

[umbral pulsar]

Imagine an NPC with this color-schemed afro just idling in the Power Plant.

[vivid delta]

ok made the colors better, hopefully, and i tested transparency on the left cause someone wanted to see what that looked like lol

[next cosmos]

anyone to make a butler/maid combo with me? motivation is hard and I would love to get these in for a specific quest. I'm working on maid at the moment

[latent hazel]

how should I pose this hat? it's more accurate in the first one but it works far better with hair in the second one

need the go ahead on these before i sprite them (and feedback on what to edit would be neat)

[pale roost]

The first thing I see when I open up this channel😭

[ionic lichen]

Any chance you can give the top of the pumpkin "hair" like the brown skirt detail from Pumpkaboo? It looks bizarrely bald somehow as is

[vivid delta]

make the top exposed so your hair can peek out

[halcyon grove]

Hey, so just wanted to pop in and remind everyone here that .zip files like this are not allowed in regards to Rule 7 of our #rules . Nobody is in trouble or anything, but consider this a formal warning going forward. It’s not that we don’t trust any of you but the rule is in place for the safety of everybody to protect against users with malicious intent. If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask. I’ll tag the rule here for ease of access and as a reminder.

Thank you all for understanding and everything you do to contribute to the game!

?tag rule7

[vast light]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 7 DISALLOWED CONTENT: File sharing (software, etc). This is purely for the protection of our users downloading unknown programs, unintentional viruses or anything else that could harm the systems of you all. The only exception to this rule is if you are asked to share your save file by the helpers with the Porygon Role.

[latent hazel]

ooooh whoops, would I be fine to send over outfits to test in dms? it's useful for catching outfit errors before adding them into game

[halcyon grove]

I wanna say that’s fine as we can’t control or dictate everyone’s DMs. Other staff members are free to correct me, however.

Just as a general internet rule of thumb for everybody: Do not download any files from people you do not know or trust.

[latent hazel]

sorry for the topic change, hat wips (tried adding the pumpkaboo fur and it looked weird, I can maybe add it as a collar

[verbal pumice]

i have a question : you had created an haxorus helmet, but, can you create the armor ?

[latent hazel]

not anytime soon

[next cosmos]

We do encourage learning how to test it yourself, we'll put out a guide on how to do that hopefully soon

[latent hazel]

I'm not spriting it but here's a concept

[halcyon grove]

Idk what you mean, this looks great. Put it in the game frog

[latent hazel]

submitted to submission drive 🫡 no overworld sprites included because i ate them

[next cosmos]

I can get behind that

I think it looks like shit, but I'm trying

[lone yoke]

naked but only when running north

just like me

[next cosmos]

I don't know why but that got an audible chuckle out of me lol

[halcyon grove]

Same lmao

[full quartz]

LMAO

i turn north and the clothes fly off

[latent hazel]

that image of the guy in a suit with his back fully open in the mirror idk if I can post that here

[next cosmos]

Probably not, but I know what you mean 😂

[latent hazel]

yeah he;s wearing lingerie I can't send that

[full quartz]

LMAOOO

[halcyon grove]

Prepares the rule2 tag

[latent hazel]

artistic recreation ignore that it's necrozma I couldn't think of anything else

[halcyon grove]

This feels like a “three kids in a trenchcoat” scenario

[ionic lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/cereza-bayonetta-games-bayonetta2-sexy-gif-17608684

(She's facing north)

[next cosmos]

done

hopefully doesnt look too much like shit

[next cosmos]

somehow my screenshot last night didnt include the first row, but I'm redoing it

original

[latent hazel]

tbh id add a darker shade on the black part but that's just me, looks fine without it

[next cosmos]

it's tough working with blacks/grays, they kinda blend in together

[latent hazel]

true

[next cosmos]

there are surprisingly only 3 shades of black in this. hue shifting won't make much of a difference here

[latent hazel]

currently experiencing the horrors

[next cosmos]

it's looking really sick!

[latent hazel]

the blades feel too large

[next cosmos]

Nah I think they're perfect length wise. You could try making them a pixel thinner, but I think it's looking great

[latent hazel]

made them thinner

[next cosmos]

Yeah that's closer

[latent hazel]

hehe avocado

also is the glossy overcoat on the blades too much"

[next cosmos]

I'd make it darker. also maybe some more red pixels at the bottom?

[latent hazel]

ok tried to change the colors back to haxorus's palette

[next cosmos]

I think that's a lot better

[latent hazel]

tbh it feels flat to me but it is more accurate to the game sprite?

I can try to post this in sprite-ready to get some general feedback beacause I'm unsure

[next cosmos]

could always add a highlight with the color you uses before. Like a shine along the tips

[latent hazel]

the demons are telling me to add more shine

ill be honest,, in my head ive been calling you papaya and i just realized that's not what your name is

[next cosmos]

I mean, kinda is

non pif alias, referencing my ffxiv character lol

[next cosmos]

done, again hopefully better. If not I'll scream lol

btw thank you for the template, it's super useful

[halcyon grove]

https://tenor.com/view/aang-atla-papaya-so-papaya-aloof-gif-22597397

[next cosmos]

Lol it was a joke and before I knew it, everyone in that part of my life knew me as that I don't like the papaya fruit either

[halcyon grove]

That just makes it funnier since katara in this scene doesn’t either

[next cosmos]

butler time

[next cosmos]

and done. I need a break

[next cosmos]

which version? the "tails" at the bottom is one pixel lower on the second image

[next cosmos]

looking fantastic! that shine is great

this is how that gardevoir came out btw, donno how I feel about the forward, but it's not bad

[latent hazel]

add in the hair lines in the forwards sprite maybe?

also should i submit the voltorb, breloom, and haxorus helm?

[next cosmos]

I tried to, but it kept looking weird with the highlight I'll keep working on it to see if I can do better

[latent hazel]

i dont think the bottom part of the front curl needs the darker shade

it kinda looks awkward how it is rn

[halcyon grove]

The difference reminds me of the Pokémon with slight gender differences

[ionic lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/do-better-gif-17380341619006338363

[ionic lichen]

Actually if you hide the hair on the sides of the head, and make the front segment go all the way to the side, it might fix it?

[next cosmos]

how about this, added more lines on the top of the head and made the point of all the curls lighter. the bottom ones have a speckle of highlight now. I have green and blonde here for reference

[next cosmos]

like this?

[next cosmos]

ahh I see, thank you!

other than that I'm pretty happy with it, and then I'll start on another one

[latent hazel]

swag

i forgot to submit my sprites

[next cosmos]

that reminds me, I was trying to find your voltorb

[latent hazel]

i removed the zip file because whoops, one second

[next cosmos]

one last thing before I wrap it up

[next cosmos]

all good, a screenshot is good!

[latent hazel]

does this look fine flipped?

widened it

ill edit the sneasel feather and the breloom hat later

i need to make the pumpkaboo hat later

[latent hazel]

submitted to the drive

[ionic lichen]

No for the front one, that you said was meh

[next cosmos]

ohhh I see, a shape kind of like this?

roughly

[ionic lichen]

This ain't exactly what I was suggesting BUT I like this even better! It gives strong Garde vibes, she sassy

[next cosmos]

thank you! I like it a lot too. I'll do some cleanup and submit it

[next cosmos]

it's coming out so cute!

[latent hazel]

looking at requests for outfits uhhh:
plague doctor outfit (1/18/25)
cool dino outfit (1/29/25)
reily outfit to match the hat (2/2/25)
male varient for the water fit (2/23/25) (prob will do it)
mimikyu coat/hood (12/31/24)

hats:

1. helmet for the line about it (3/3/25)

[lone yoke]

what would a cool dino outfit even look like-

Also, on an unrelated note, I may not be able to finish the Bisharp outfit in March like I planned

should still be done in early April, though, so not all bad

[next cosmos]

I would think an outfit kind of like those inflatable dino costumes, but with tyrantrum with sunglasses 🤔 dont know how to translate that into the small amount of pixels we're afforded

[sour juniper]

Not sure who made this outfit, but it's not sized properly

[full quartz]

new outfit: Floating Eris

[snow escarp]

I think it's @cursive sapphire

[latent hazel]

THATS MY STAND
CLOSE COMBAT

[full quartz]

LMFAOOO

[cursive sapphire]

What's the problem?
I can edit it

Oh

Ooooh

[latent hazel]

....somebody needs to make a jojo stand hat im being so fr

[twin oyster]

ok but how do we justify it?

[latent hazel]

just make it giratina using shadow force

or shadow sneak

[cursive sapphire]

It can't be a Hat, it will be on the layer above the hair and clothes

If we have capes though

[next cosmos]

one last thing before I submit gardevoir hair. Option one or two. only difference is the top half of the hair was brought down one pixel

okay yeah, did a modified version of version 2 that kept the ring around the eye of 1 and 2. thanks for the input! this hair doesn't play nice with a lot of hats, this kind of makes it slightly better

and here's the OW, actually quite proud of it

[next cosmos]

after minor edits, it's submitted c:

[cursive sapphire]

Ok resized them
Do I just send them in the Clothes or the "To Complete" folder?

Sorry it took a while
Cleaning our house X_X

[cursive sapphire]

I'll just send them all in CLothes again

[sour juniper]

Sounds good. Typically it would be the fixes submission folder

[frozen lark]

Been meaning to make these into outfits for a while, but I might have to update the drawings.

[latent hazel]

who's making edits to the outfit tracker? just curious in case you need more ingo

info*

BATTLE SUBWAY TYPO

[latent hazel]

i just had the stupidest idea
a hat that's just the entire pc

[full quartz]

do it

[frozen lark]

It would be really funny if the player’s face was on it but it had like an old screen effect on it.

[latent hazel]

thanks spriter's resource for being the laggiest site out there

MY VISION

[full quartz]

this is actually so funny

[umbral pulsar]

The tracker has been updated to include the new outfits added in version 6.5.0. The obtain methods for some outfits have been revised, and the status of certain outfits has been updated.
As a player, super hyped to see so many awesome new outfits Big shoutout to all the spriters for your hard work and creativity – y’all are amazing
The table may still contain numerous issues(miscredits, wrong status etc.). If you notice any, please DM @umbral pulsar or @terse flint
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19uYNGk5SbBqcsHV155IBcABcIbRatEhkLTwTK2R3LU8/edit?gid=891834841#gid=891834841

[snow escarp]

make it a bit wider so the whole sprite is covered
you can still see the ear tips behind

[spiral dock]

excuse me, who do i have to ask to put my credits on the ice expert outift??

[umbral pulsar]

Hi your work has now been credited

[spiral dock]

yay! thanks

[stable maple]

Question

If I were to make lets say, a buzzwole mask

for a hat

would that have a chance of being added?

[latent hazel]

yeah if it's properly made

[stable maple]

so this is what I go

wait this is what I got

[latent hazel]

@sour juniper sorry for the ping but (the first part, not the last part)

[sour juniper]

What's wrong?

[latent hazel]

idk if it's a sheet error but this person got the fusionnerd outfit from showing one fusion instead of the splicer fit?

is it meant to be like that in game/was it changed?

[full quartz]

oh yeah. i meant to bring this up

the fusion nerd outfit is supposed to be the outfit you get in cinnabar via talking to the scientist when you've fused 100 times

but you can also get it from the fashion boutique via showing the woman there -- not sure what shes called -- a fusion

is this intended?

it seems like a weird overlap with a very difficult task and a very easy task

[umbral pulsar]

oh yeah the splicer outfit should be the boutique reward?

[full quartz]

in my experience, i get both

first the splicer outfit, then the fusion nerd

[latent hazel]

i thought so many people used the nerd outfit because it was liked but it's actually because it's really easy to get damn

[ionic lichen]

Ockham's razor

[violet maple]

Hey, I haven't been around in a while, do custom outfits not support transition sprites?

[lone yoke]

there are no vs sprites in game afaik

[violet maple]

Damn

My old effort will go to waste I suppose.

Also I should probably ask, is there a way to not use the default trainer card pose?

[next cosmos]

What do you mean? change the player character on the card to a different position? No that's not possible

[latent hazel]

i forgot uhhh donphan
ignore everything else

[next cosmos]

This reminds me! I was going to take a stab at the rocky helmet, as well as that OSHA certified hard helmet someone suggested a while ago

[cursive sapphire]

Name a Human character in Pokemon.

Any Game
Any Spinoff
Any Show

Will make an outfit of the 1st character posted

I already made

• Hex Maniac (6)
• Ramos (6)
• Eri (9)

[ionic lichen]

Ghetsis

[cursive sapphire]

Sheeeeesh

Welp
Let's see how this goes

[ionic lichen]

||I JUST saw a poll on Tumblr that had him, voting for "Top Villain" so he was on my mind ||

[cursive sapphire]

But team Plasma are just Activists

We got the Mob, Activists, Climate Change, Rabbis Fans, Bullies, Gangsters, High Tech companies, whatever Cyrus does... What's next?

[ionic lichen]

Who knows

Also HAHA Cyrus

[ancient solstice]

You have played Gen 5, right?

[cursive sapphire]

Nope

Played every gen but 5

[ancient solstice]

Yeah, you need to watch a let’s play of black and white

[lyric rain]

Wes (Pokémon Colosseum)
Kellyn (Pokémon Ranger SoA)
Paul (Pokémon DP anime)

[last saffron]

Elesa (BW version)

[full quartz]

Cyrus... madman scientist? mad religious cult leader? something like that

[cursive sapphire]

You made those? Daaang nice list

Tempted to make an outfit for every char who has a Roserade...

Little problem though

• Gardenia (4)
• Barry (4)
• Cynthia (4)
• Tierno (6)
• Wally (Oras)
• Volo (Arceus)
  ...
  And I'm not even mentioning the anime

really used by a lot of rivals huh...

[lyric rain]

I didn't make those outfits in game, just thought it'd be a cool thing to see.

[pallid dragon]

i'd set up an entirely custom trainer sprite+animations before the latest updates and now it's replaced with the new clothing system, which is cool and all but i just want to use the sprites i made lol. i'm assuming i can just replace the default spritesheets with the ones i made? i'm not sure if there's like a source template i need to replace or something

[lyric rain]

I might make them if I have the time, but I'm working Monday to Friday so not a whole lot of free time.

[cursive sapphire]

really used by a lot of rivals huh...

[next cosmos]

Male protags

Or any really

[sharp wyvern]

Trying to complete a Buneary inspired outfit I started way back. How do these look so far? (Also decided to make a fake store display for fun)

Skirt and bottoms are going for a plaid design, I like it from a far but not sure how well it reads tbf

[lone yoke]

I feel like the plaid reads now but I don't know how well it would read on the overworld sprites

[sharp wyvern]

Oh I didn't think bout that

[snow escarp]

it's just going to be brown

I don't think you can do details that small

[sharp wyvern]

Hmm long as it's not too bad right...shame cause I want to add neat fabrics to stuff. Hoping there's a way for it to work? Flat brown wouldn't be too bad I guess...

[ionic lichen]

Wait you actually missed that story? That was one of the best! The story was insanely mature and complex, you do really need to watch a video playthrough

[lone yoke]

I disagree, honestly

It had the potential to be really good but as soon as Ghetsis started talking it nosedived back into "comically evil man wants unlimited power"

[cursive sapphire]

Honestly, probably why I enjoyed SV and SwSh

[ionic lichen]

That was the whole point though...
The storyline with N was what was compelling. But his entire everything was as a pawn in Ghetsis's otherwise entirely predictable storyline.
Ghetsis was literally a power-hungry man-baby. He was pathetic, but also incredibly evil and horrible. ||Super ironic since people like Ghetsis exist in real life, like all the time.||

[ionic lichen]

Scarlet and Violet had great stories too. I didn't care for Sword or Shield at all, basically any part of it, but the Pokémon from that Gen were pretty good.

[ancient solstice]

The Pokémon and the characters were the best part. The rest of the game however, is a lot like Bruno: we don’t talk about it

[ionic lichen]

Hop and Rose irritated the shit out of me. The Pokémon were overwhelmingly awesome.

[hallow magnet]

I like what they tried with hop. it didn't go far enough or felt all that justified for me, but I appreciate it

Rose is just objectively dogshit. I joked about archie being the dumbest team leader given I'm assuming PKMN earth has a similar land to water ratio of our world so... last thing we need is more ocean..... rose took that crown easily

there's gonna be an energy crisis... in over 1000 years... and he not only found the dumbest solution for it, but also couldn't wait just a week or so for the championship thing to be over

[tender mulch]

Is it cosher to yoink things from pre-existing official trainer sprites and alter them enough to be different?

[tender mulch]

Okay before I get WAY further, is there ANYTHING wrong with what I have so far?

I have been just kinda using colors as I need them and not following any sort of preset color guide/pallet, so please do correct me now if that's a bad.

I have added a fresh jacket

Made a version with and without the jacket

making overworld sprites shouldn't be TOO hard

As the pants are based on skinny jeans, and I DO in fact wear a more form fitting red shirt when I have sleeves IRL. So thje only REAL difficulty is gonna be the jacket

Also yes, I am basing my first outfit on what I wear IRL, just made a little more fitting for the style.

I think I know a "hat" I want to make, or rather a set of them.

So why does my trainer have to be holding a basic pokeball at all times? Why not a Great Ball? Or an Ultra Ball? Bom, just a "hat" that replaces the type of ball you're holding.

[latent hazel]

there's a submission section for pokeball replacements, don't make it a hat

working on the gender neutral water type fit

[verbal pumice]

old team plasma, yes ... the new are "different"

[hallow magnet]

could someone please explain to me what exactly is going on with the fusion outfit.

[hallow magnet]

also it's whatever pokeball your front PKMN is in IIRC

[tender mulch]

Ohhh neat never noticed

[ancient solstice]

Even old Team Plasma were only activists as a front

[latent hazel]

those are my outfits and I don't even know what's going on with them

also is the water type fit good? idk if it's too dif to the dress

[hallow magnet]

I assume I'm not the only one who thinks it looks "concerning"

[hallow magnet]

the white squares could probably do with some light detailing and/or less of them need to not just be 2x2 (well technically 4x4) squares as RN they kind of look a bit jarring

[hallow magnet]

and yes it is quite different from the dress. it's pretty good, but different

[latent hazel]

yeah they're just placement to be shaded later

[hallow magnet]

"the WIP is, in fact, a WIP"

good to know

[hallow magnet]

also were you trying to do something similar to the top blue wave on the water dress?

[latent hazel]

man I just wanted to make a design with a poncho fuck this

[hallow magnet]

figured (also thanks for the correct term), and that looks amazing

[snow escarp]

wdym?

[latent hazel]

???

[hallow magnet]

wait do I have the old verison or something

[latent hazel]

no that's the current version, I'm just redesigning it because i can't take it

[hallow magnet]

well I'm sorry if I've caused you any grief, that was far from my intention.

if I could help in anyway I would like too

[latent hazel]

no this is a repeated thing i just burnt myself out over it

[twin oyster]

as long as is gamefreak sprites and not sprite done by other fan artist like the ones in showdown

[latent hazel]

I prefer the second one but somebody said it didn't really fix the issue so instead somebody suggested to have a vote on what would prob work best ig

[hallow magnet]

IDK who that person is, but I disagree. that does fix that as well as look great. #4 is also a really nice.... "twist" (for lack of better words) on the design.

[latent hazel]

perosnally I don't like it that much but normally my design tastes end up counter to public vote

[hallow magnet]

well at least you can still have your own version. frankly I've just spent the last hour doing minor changes to a few designs to make them more for me

[twin oyster]

looks fine as is but maybe brown pants that way it has the same efect of sea meets sand the dress has

[hallow magnet]

I'd have to also say something similar to this. the concept is great, but it definitely needs more more of the sandy bits to be a counterpart to the dress, least IMO.

also I can't help but think that if someone were to darken the main bit, one could have it as some sort of a soft abyssal theme or something.

[twin oyster]

yeah and the male version also has the sand brown parts so...

[latent hazel]

any of these work?

[hallow magnet]

the first one works quite well

[latent hazel]

should I add light outlines?

[hallow magnet]

nice

[full quartz]

i want you to know i audibly gasped

[sudden flicker]

Guys is N’s outfit in the game?

[latent hazel]

not from what i know

[latent hazel]

this.... oh this is not translating well

[full quartz]

i think it looks pretty good

[latent hazel]

also concept with larger pearls

[snow escarp]

small pearls read better imo

I think it work pretty well

[tender mulch]

The ones I showed were my own work lmao! But thank you for letting me know. I started making custom trainers years ago. But I pretty much just yoinked parts from sprites from gens 4 and 5, and mashed them up for anything I couldn't pull off on my own. Still a beginner myself.

[sharp wyvern]

Hmm think the bottoms can translate decent to the chib. Wdpt?

[tender mulch]

they simplify a noisy texture while retaining its core quality. I would say they translated perfectly.

And I don't use noisy as an insult.

Noisy is just how I would describe it. It's very clear, but there is a ton going on.

[sharp wyvern]

Sweet. Thanks!

[twin oyster]

Outfit no, hair yes

[sudden flicker]

okayyy

[oblique bloom]

Do I get outfits in game just by playing or do I have to download or make my own?

I havent played infinite fusion in so long all this new stuff is so lit

[latent hazel]

you just find them in game

[ionic lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/good-place-shirtballs-holy-forking-shirtballs-eleanor-shellstrop-kristen-bell-gif-17520838

[hallow magnet]

do you still have a version close to this? I understand most ppl agree with having it be on the side for the front view, but I'd like to try using a/the 'symmetrical' version (for lack of better words), as well as other ideas I got.

Obviously I don't except you to make it for me, I plan on doing it myself, just curious if you still have that first version which would cut down on the work I'd have to do

[cursive sapphire]

Well if you need a Reference of a Human in a Gardevoir Costume

[hallow magnet]

who said anything about it being a costume

[cursive sapphire]

Honestly, one of their worst disguises

[hallow magnet]

ehhhhh

[cursive sapphire]

Found out immediately

[hallow magnet]

okay from a story perspective, yes

[cursive sapphire]

Meowth couldn't tiptoe 24/7

It was bound to fail Lol

[hallow magnet]

you make it sound like 99% of their disguises don't fail

albeit TBF it was a while since I've watched gens 3, 4, or 6 so

[cursive sapphire]

They don't usually fail tbh

[hallow magnet]

I just realized I didn't ping

I'm unsure if that's for the better

I'll wait a few hours and then ping if I don't get a response

[snow escarp]

somebody should do the moltres costume then

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-james-moltres-team-valor-gif-5679769

[cursive sapphire]

How would it work with the hand holding a PokeBall?

[hallow magnet]

poorly

[latent hazel]

just make the feathers hold it

[hallow magnet]

also we got a cresselia dress, when is someone gonna make Darkrai armor (TBF I could, with some help, do it myself)

in all seriousness, I might actually once I'm no longer busy

[lone yoke]

I mean

Outfits take time. usually less time than it takes me to make them, but still

Even if you take every opportunity to copy / mirror sprites, each outfit is 44 sprites at least

Compare that to hats which only need 5 sprites (4 if you just mirror for the left / right facing overworld sprites)

[latent hazel]

darkrai overworld would probably be easier since darker shades need less detail in them

[snow escarp]

I though about doing a darkrai suit to go along but I'm too lazy

[latent hazel]

if nobody else wants to, I can doodle a few concepts after I'm done with some other stuff

[hallow magnet]

I will legit doodle up some 'darkrai armor', as I want some fucking armor, but it will be a bit

[latent hazel]

im starting to realize i like the scarf cape combo

[hallow magnet]

isn't the scarf's front side broken?

[hallow magnet]

oh, I thought you mean koga's, my mistake

[sharp wyvern]

Okay finalised the design and possibly sprite work. Any design improvements or suggestions or is it okay?

[latent hazel]

not sure what this outfit piece is

[sharp wyvern]

Meant to be lowered sunglasses with a buneary colour scheme...yeah maybe it's not working. I realise now it does blend into the eyes. Tried to add variety to the sunglasses by having them also be worn lowered like the trainer is being snobby.

[sharp wyvern]

Hmm might just dip the sunglasses and make a cap instead as the second accessory.

[next cosmos]

I still have it, I think. you want to reupload it? 🤔

[next cosmos]

ohhhh I see, you want to make the jesse version I'll what I can pull up

[latent hazel]

i hate this outfit

[cobalt flicker]

My first thought was that it was a fake moustache haha. Could work with the bunny nose if you wanted to go a gag-glasses approach

[hallow magnet]

nah, just a more "basic" version in a sense, more seeing what I can do than anything

albeit the reasoning is fairly irrelevant

[plucky juniper]

Could someone help me out i was trying to make myself a hat and this is how it ended up looking in game

[snow escarp]

square

[snow escarp]

could be worth reporting in #1142871804269052004

[latent hazel]

I think it's

1. wrong scale
2. the background is white rather than transparent

[plucky juniper]

The second one worked thank you

[next cosmos]

I don't have that exact version anymore, but I did keep this one off to the side before I abandoned the idea for the side swirl. I could remake the one you were needing if you wanted

[hallow magnet]

nah it's fine. I can easily copy from pictures, was just hoping for an effortless time save.

[next cosmos]

all good, it was already in front of me and just needed some tweaks to get it back to that state

use this one, the sides were uneven on the last one I sent

[languid lagoon]

hello, a friend of mine is asking about possibly requesting/commissioning a sprite artist to make some overworld walk sprites, was wondering if anyone was interested in doing something like that? heres a little preview of the characters

[lone yoke]

Working on a chef hat someone requested

Any input? I know the trainer sprite is missing something but I can't quite put it on paper

[latent hazel]

the band is angled too high i think

[twin oyster]

i mean if its not for if i could do payed comms, no idea how much or from where since i have never done comms

[languid lagoon]

yeah its not for pif, if you have a paypal that would work, should i get you in touch with her?

[twin oyster]

yeah sure

[inner pivot]

hey guys does anyone know if theres a hatsune miku outfit in-game

there are twintails that can be colored cyan at the goldenrod mart

so now im wondering if theres a full set

[full quartz]

no direct references to media are allowed as an outfit

there can be allusions but yannow

[inner pivot]

ah 🥲

thanks anyways

[twin oyster]

but because of proyect voltage is directly pokemon some of those outfit have been made

[inner pivot]

oh really??

dyk how to access

[inner pivot]

.

[twin oyster]

only one i know from memory is the fairy type one in mt moon square

[inner pivot]

i see

thanks

[gloomy pollen]

I have a question

Is it possible?

[snow escarp]

for the trainer sprite maybe but prob not the overworld sprite

[gloomy pollen]

Why isn’t it possible?

[lone yoke]

there's only a dozen or so pixels of clearance above the top of the head

The bane of tall hats everywhere

[ocean wing]

I'm interested. Did they say what gen they want

[languid lagoon]

i believe theyre firered/leafgreen sprites? like these ones:

[twin oyster]

Yeah i talked with her she want gen 3 i'm doing the walking ones

[vernal lava]

I'm uneducated on the subject, but...why? That feels so arbitrary, doesn't it?

[full quartz]

that's something to ask a sprite manager or the developer

i just deal with bugs

[latent hazel]

it's because all of the outfits would be ref sprites when we already have only like... 5 people making outfits

jesus christ im never designing a lopsided outfit with tiny details again

[vernal lava]

Giving it zero priority and outright banning it are two very different things.

[lone yoke]

If you want to make a reference outfit yourself, please, go right ahead. It won't be added to the game, but you'll be able to use it as much as you want

[latent hazel]

I mean
in the end any priority would let it get in the game so people would submit references anyways, nobody here is turned away because our stuff takes a long time to get added

plus you can add the outfits to your game yourself by png editing so it's not like you can't download and use them if somebody makes them, it's just it can't be officially added

maybe in the future they can be added but at this point, we haven't even finished all the stuff we need to add in game

[vernal lava]

I'm not saying I'm asking for any. I'm just talking about the rule itself existing at all.

[lone yoke]

(It's also worth mentioning that every outfit has to be coded into the game individually, unlike sprites, which are done in bulk via repo)

[latent hazel]

the rule has a reason which I explained, I don't understand the confusion

[vernal lava]

You explained why it's low priority. That's not an answer to "outright banning it seems weird"

[latent hazel]

it's banned to avoid people only making reference sprites for a part of the game with very few spriters

[vernal lava]

No one is forcing the spriters to do anything.
Why is it BANNED?

[latent hazel]

and to incentivize making designs that work in the game, like starter or type based outfits rather than wanting to make something related to another piece of media.

[vernal lava]

Banning implies new people can't even submit their own work.

Why limit it

[latent hazel]

what are you talking about

anybody can submit an outfit, it just can't be a reference to another piece of media directly

[vernal lava]

My question is why forbade it

[lone yoke]

Imagine a scenario, if you will:

Five people are stranded on a desert island.

Four people decide to try and find food, water, or materials to build shelter.

The fifth person decides to write a review about Batman 3.

Who gets eaten first?

Reference outfits aren't allowed in game because the game is still lacking in-universe outfits. It's bad enough that the priority has to be forced

[latent hazel]

sheep i appreciate it but the scenario mentioned is prob gonna cause confusion, you just needed the last part lmao, it's clear enough

[vernal lava]

Stop adding in the fact there's only 5 spriters. That's not what I'm talking about.

Let's say a new, sixth person only wants to make a handful of outfits and leaves.
The rule forbids it being added for no reason.

[lone yoke]

Fair enough I'm very tired

[vernal lava]

That is equally fair, as I am too

[latent hazel]

then they don't make the outfits? the rules say no because there'd be an influx of people making outfits ONLY so they get the reference and then drop outfit customization and the shit we need wouldn't get made.

[lone yoke]

The rule does not forbid the creation of reference outfits. The rule just says they won't be added to the game, because outfits being added to the game is more work for frog (the only developer) without improving the quality of the game for the average player

[vernal lava]

The five people would still be doing the other stuff. Banning it is just a dam for no reason.

[latent hazel]

as mentioned, these all have to be added manually unlike fusion sprites, which can at the very least have mains that aren't references, which are automatically alted

[vernal lava]

That's not true. #custom-outfits-discussion message

[lone yoke]

You're not gonna get banned for making a reference outfit

It just won't be added to the game

That's the only consequence

[vernal lava]

Zero-priority and outright banning are different.
I'm done going in circles about this.

[latent hazel]

low quality joke sprites and shiny alts also can't be added to the game due to space but you won't get banned for making them and there are fanmade packs to readd them. you can do the same for reference outfits ig if you want to make them.

[lone yoke]

I think this is, as usual with human interaction, a failure to communicate. I think you're conflating the rule with some command from the heavens that is enforced by an iron fist.

The reference outfits do get zero priority. They never will get priority. But the need effort to put in the game, so they will never be put in the game, and as such, there is no point submitting them.

[latent hazel]

this is probably going to sound stupid but

reference sprite alts are zero-priority. they can't be mains and have to specifically be picked in the sprite list.
people still make them despite that.

for outfits, which don't have hundreds of spriters to make mains, it'd cause a majority of outfits to be references because people aren't going to invest into this feature since it's tedious and just do their one and done thing. there's also no way to alt outfits.

maybe in the future they'll be added but at this point, it'd cause a mess with the feature.

[lone yoke]

It's worth noting that reference adjacent sprites can exist if they fit narratively in universe. Like how some reference fusion sprites can be mains if they're just recolored

It just can't be blatant or out of place

[latent hazel]

idk how ref sprites work too well, I only have 3 and all of those already have mains (or I made one)

[lone yoke]

I'm mostly referring to stuff like this, where it's just a palette change and a few more/less details

[latent hazel]

oh yeah I know about that

[snow escarp]

-# adding fuel to the fire
I wonder if ref outfit might get allowed after a big number of outfit get added?

[lone yoke]

Only one way to find out! START SPRITING

[latent hazel]

we'll need another 10 years to finish what we need to first

unless another event occurs

[lone yoke]

I think we should kidnap fusion spriters

for legal reasons, this is a joke

[whole stratus]

I made an outfit once. It was a cloak that got labeled cloak dress.

[sour juniper]

That looks really awesome though

[latent hazel]

before I forget, where do I send the updated version of the fusion outfit? I want to fix the "hey why does my outfit have boobs" problem

[twin oyster]

theres a folder in the submission called fixes

[sour juniper]

yep! that would go into Fixes Submissions

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1UTeCPJyOLyAvhsBM_QIO1OIIhlk3G_qS

[latent hazel]

tbh
I though it was the hex maniac outfit

[whole stratus]

It makes sense when you see it with the hat.

[latent hazel]

ah

[empty cedar]

do we have someone made a mushroom hat?

[snow escarp]

I think there's a breloom hat?

[bright crown]

There is a mushroom hat, that's just a mushroom on your head

[latent hazel]

I FORGOT TO SUBMIT THE BRELOOM HAT

[snow escarp]

Better late than never

[latent hazel]

my hand stings >:\

[latent hazel]

[oak obsidian]

The fire outfit is missing one of the bike sprites

[twin oyster]

O shit ur right probably left it in a diferent layer

[rapid sapphire]

guys can anyone help me because i want to make a trainer accessory but i dont know how to position it

[twin oyster]

@sour juniper fixed

[tall gyro]

can someone help me how can i change the red avatar into a custom one and how can i get customs avatars ??

Pls

[latent hazel]

find what the name of the png is that the trainer sprites are and make your custom sprite over that, then replace the other png (just name it the same)

im not good with this but best advice i got

[tall gyro]

Ok and where can i found some characters to replace with the previous one

[latent hazel]

I have no clue

[tall gyro]

I found one of trainer N

[sharp wyvern]

Tried doing a buneary mask but feels off to me so made a cap instead. Which do people think is better?

[latent hazel]

I think the cap would be easier to read as it is but the mask could work with larger ears

[sharp wyvern]

Mmm I'll try with bigger ears tomorrow, but yeah I am lwaning to the cap.

[empty cedar]

How bout a buneary hood?

[sharp wyvern]

Hmmm that's a neat idea. I'll try sprinting that too.

[latent hazel]

forgot to submit pumpkin hat

i forgot i was making a whole ass outfit too

[next cosmos]

I actually made some concept a while back for a buneary headpiece for the game. Kind of like kitty ears, but bun

[twin oyster]

If it makes u feel better ive been procastinating klara outfit for 2 weeks

[next cosmos]

I havent done any character customization in about a month always so busy

[clever mantle]

I have found that some of the dress outfits may not have downloaded correctly for me. When previewing them or equipping them, they leave my character picture naked (the walkaround sprite still shows the dress). The Elegant Dress is one of them.

[hidden bridge]

i have the same issue im also balding for some reason

[sour juniper]

What is the exact version that you're playing on? I tested it and it works fine for me.

[clever mantle]

6.5.1 on Android

[sour juniper]

Thank you, we'll look into it

[clever mantle]

Need me to send you a screenshot?

[sour juniper]

Thanks, but no, no need

[clever mantle]

Update on the clothing, it seems to be the top outfit for sale at the pokemarts that are not showing up. Same for the top hat for sale.

[latent hazel]

ideas

alternate design

[snow escarp]

Will it be separate hair and hat? 👀

[ionic lichen]

I think having the little curl and leaf as the top of the hat thingy is more visible, and allows the hat and hair to be separate. (Although, how would you hide the Leafeon curl under the hat? Or if they were separate would the "hair" just be the leaf ears and green hair? )

[latent hazel]

oh it's not hair, those were just tassles on the hat

like this

[full quartz]

Ohhh my god that second (top right) one

[latent hazel]

second one works better with the ears but the first one works better with the hat

I don't want to sprite 4 head pieces sobs

[lone yoke]

I like the bob tbh

[deft oracle]

This is so cute!! If you don’t do the beret for Leafeon, it would totally work for Glaceon! It’s got a good geometric shape and her diamonds are meant to be a hat anyway (tuque). A beret would be cute

[latent hazel]

I was planning to do a crown for glaceon (next on my list fcvgbhn)

[deft oracle]

All of these are great, but i like top left for hair personally

[latent hazel]

I originally was dreading the eeveelutions because I'd need to do both ears and hat (since I know people want the ears but I want to do custom designs)

[deft oracle]

Like people want to wear just the ears on their human character?
Personally i think your custom designs are much better!

[latent hazel]

thanks!
but the ears thing is just since eeveelutions are popular and I know people are expecting ears as a hat

plus there aren't many ear hats

[latent hazel]

moved the hat up

[snow escarp]

seeing on a bald head is cursed

[latent hazel]

huh, wait, does leafeon have dif outline colors?

ok fixed it

[full quartz]

CUTE