dex-entries-discussion

[limber parrot]

becasuue the fusion name is shits

[rich goblet]

The point still stands that a pokemon's name isn't exactly a title

[limber parrot]

~~but shits is funny ~~

[rich goblet]

Shits is funny yes, but independent of the grammar fix

[regal cedar]

Yeah, we avoid bringing up the Pokémon's name.

[hushed temple]

Fixed

[rich goblet]

I think you added a mistake rather than fixed it.

The issue is calling a name of a pokemon a title

Like for example

Ash Ketchum isn't a title but the name

It's hard to explain what I mean here <@&1210701164426039366>

Could an Unown help fix up this post?

#dex-entries-discussion message

I feel a little guilty lacking the vocab for this

[regal cedar]

Yeah, don't bring up a Pokémon's name at all. First sentence is fine, second sentence probably just needs to be scrapped and replcaed with something else. Also, it's just "folk tales", so only folk would be capitalized.

[craggy beacon]

folktales is also 1 word

[hushed temple]

Fixed x2

[regal cedar]

Usually, but several sources, including Britannica, use it as two.

[round cave]

This shouldn't be all one sentence

[small nest]

"where then they will" doesn't make much sense. I'd split the entry into two sentences: against their head. They will chomp

FAQ 16 mentions that we can say a specific person was the first one to discover a fusion. In this case Raikou and Suicune are closely associated so it may not be accurate, but in general it's ok

[rich goblet]

@hexed fog Apricots appear twice in 3/14 DictionDex I think?

[jagged ledge]

But it also describes a process of how the fusion could have been formed, so what's the ruling on that?

[small nest]

We can't mention natural fusion methods, but since splicers are explicitly mentioned that rule shouldn't come into play.

[jagged ledge]

I suppose so

[hexed fog]

Crap

I'll replace when home

[rich goblet]

There are worse mistakes to make dw

[hexed fog]

Apricot and Apricots

I didnt do it twice D:

you scurred me

[rich goblet]

Wait so one is plural and one is not?

I thought it it was the same fruit thing

[hexed fog]

Yup

It is but we are trying to use the words themselves lol

That's why I say it has to be the tense on the sheet lol

[rich goblet]

I’m confused but I think I understand

[wary scarab]

POKÉNAME are ancient predators that have roamed the world for thousands of years. Hunting in large packs, they drag their massive, ice spear-like tails along the ground, generating waves of paralysing electricity to immobilise their prey.

Maybe?

[rich goblet]

Friend loves apricots so much he needed another apricot

Also submissions for last week are in, one moment while I get a coffee and jab at this week’s

[dull ore]

POKENAME possesses both immense strength and beauty. It resolves most conflicts without violence; either by charming or intimidating would-be opponents.

never rly sure about semicolons, does this look alright?

[craggy beacon]

the semicolon isnt used properly

youd probably wanna use a comma there

semicolons are used to link two independant clauses, so two sentence segments that could be sentences on their own

ie "Dinner smells really good; however, I'm not hungry."

typically semicolons are accompanied by words like therefore, however, similarly, next, etc.

[dull ore]

ah kk that makes sense

ty

[gritty kettle]

Whos the body from?

[dull ore]

kommo-o

[round cave]

Assembled a second box of my sprites with custom dex entries!

[hushed temple]

fixed

[hushed temple]

and fixed

i gotta write more once i get further in my playthrough

"A POKENAME resembles an ancient warrior and brandishes an icy club for combat. Its 'pelt' is apart of its body, as it uses two noses to seek out food and trespassers."

[rich goblet]

A POKENAME resembles or POKENAME resemble.

[hushed temple]

Ty for that

"Its wand generates an electrical charge over time, when threatened it will release the stored up electricity and run away. POKENAME act childish and shy, and are sought out by lonely parents who want to take care of another child."

"Its legs have grown stronger, allowing for faster movement through the water. A POKENAME uses its orbs around the collar to feel the emotions of those nearby. In the wild it uses this to track prey."

[regal cedar]

Just POKENAME, not POKÉNAME. Use é for Pokémon.

[timid sky]

I’d say you should have a period instead of a comma between “nearby” and “in”. Other than that looks good

[regal cedar]

I would probably probably say "icy" instead of just ice, or removed it altogether.

[hushed temple]

"POKENAME are found in forests oddly enough. Their lightweight bodies are carried away from their home volcano like ash as they land atop distant trees and foliage. They slowly return to the volcano and are highly aggressive while making the journey."

Finally caught up on my team

[regal cedar]

Good!

[hushed temple]

"The Thunder Stone atop its head is a fake. It stores extra electricity inside the fake stone and hides itself along the forest floor in order to trick others into taking the fake and receiving a painful shock."

[rich goblet]

In general but especially here, an item from the Pokemon Series must be capitalized and spaced like in games.

Thunder Stone, not Thunderstone

@hexed fog Let me know when you get to my entries so I can give faster feedback on DictionDex revisions

[hexed fog]

Sorry i had dnd for my main campaign so I was super out of it lol

[rich goblet]

Yer good

[jagged ledge]

Dexdoku Grid 5 is now finally here!

[hushed temple]

Fixed ty! Been getting better of the habits for writing these

[rich goblet]

@jagged ledge https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B16l9FiLZu0IznaUQcTWxRj4Ku8ElMmuzIl-mKTyvsY/edit?usp=sharing

Please see these nest themed entries for DexDoku 😄

EDIT: Please see meaning help me check for grammar 🙏

[timid sky]

So I think my previous method of picking sprites for dexdoku is out the window, considering the only electric/flying types I can think of are Zapdos and Emolga (the latter of which isn’t in PIF) and the only grass flying types I can think of are the Jumpluff line and sky form Shymine (the latter of which isn’t in PIF (woah, deja vu)). I’m sure I’m forgetting some, but probably not enough to fill the required squares. Plus, I doubt that there are that many pokeradar exclusive mons that can learn cosmic power

[jagged ledge]

Ok before I say anything, understand that the Nidoran Families were specifically chosen as prompts to face a bit of difficulty head-on.

[rich goblet]

I’m a little confused but continue

[jagged ledge]

The main problem with especially your top Nidorina entry is that it relies too much on the full Nidoqueen family.

Sometimes it can help to directly reference other fusions in the evolutionary line by name so that you can paint a clearer picture.

For example, I recently submitted a Murkrow/Rattata entry and mentioned "They only answer to the Honchicate that leads their flock."

So if your first entry read something like "Second-in-command to the Lurqueen that oversee the nest, POKENAME are in charge of making sure every egg is accounted for while the Lurqueen gathers food." That might help.

Also when you say "leaf blades" it sounds like you're referencing the move, in which case, it should be capitalized. Also the pokedex describes them as petals.

[rich goblet]

I thought references to other pokemon should be minimized, this is interesting to note and I will put a pin in it

[jagged ledge]

Technically that recommendation normally comes from the fact that entries should inherently be standalone and focused on the Pokémon themselves, but when describing the hierarchy of the evolutionary line, as long as it still describes the main species and doesn't rely on information presented in other entries, it's alright. The one caveat is that it would likely be best to make an entry not quite referencing the previous one, but repeating the same information from a new perspective

[rich goblet]

I think my best move is to focus on the hierarchy and remix the next sentence after

[jagged ledge]

Like if I write in my Hochkrow/Raticate entry "It commands flocks of Murtatta to do its dirty work."

But not "It is the boss of a flock" or "It commands its minions" assuming that people have read the Murtatta entry for example

Because while context would suggest the younger siblings are the NidoranF fusions, they could also be other Nidorina because this is the fusion with Nidorina's entry.

So at that point, with it being a family structure in a way that makes sense to the game's lore, I say the other fusion names are worth it, as that's mainly a precaution to say "Avoid things like "X is an eternal rival of unrelated Y" because people might not understand the connection and it would rely on the context of both entries.

[timid sky]

Can someone explain to me why Oricorio Pom-Pom style has so few sprites

Or at least why it doesn't have sprites with any of the Pokémon that I need it to

[regal cedar]

Shrug.

Baile is the default usually so most go for that.

[rich goblet]

@jagged ledge I think my brain is digetsing the food for thoght, albeit slowly.

[timid sky]

Is this my punishment for forgetting that Oricorio Pom-Pom style exsisted when I listed out the Electric/Flying types I could remember?

Alright, I have my sprites chosen now

Let's just say that I found a way to get more Grass/Flying and Electric/Flying types

[narrow cosmos]

Still surprised to have woken up to see I was the one who eked out a win on Dexdoku.

[timid sky]

Also, there is at least one Pokeradar exclusive mon that I know for a fact can learn Cosmic power

[calm knoll]

here a dex entry for garderoc (fusion bewteen gardevoir and lycanroc)
"Garderoc, a moon-enhanced Gardevoir, has evolved to be stronger both physically and psychically. While all Gardevoirs protect their trainers, its beastly nature deepens this bond, making it even more formidable"

[jagged ledge]

You did great!

[rich goblet]

Have you read #dex-entries-submissions ? You might get better mileage if you look through the rules of submission and link to submit there.

Especially the FAQ portion

[calm knoll]

ok i already look but i think i didn't look closely sorry

[narrow cosmos]

Wasn't surprised to see you mention the Tentacruel/Shroomish again, I remembered you liking the Looney Tunes-esque imagery.

[calm knoll]

The link I have to put is the Pokemon I want to give a dex entry to?

[rich goblet]

Where it says >>>SUBMIT ENTRIES HERE<<<

Tap that and fill out with your discord username, the Dex# of the Pokemon, and the entry.

To find the dex number use one of the calcs

?tag calcs

[upper loom]

https://infinitefusiondex.com/: Good for looking at stats, locations, movesets, and type matchups, as well as looking at the inverse fusions side-by-side.

https://www.fusiondex.org/: Good for looking at sprites and fusion names. Also includes stats, but no comparisons.

[rich goblet]

You take two numbers of the dex entry (ex. 1.2) and slap a .png at the end to complete it

[calm knoll]

oooh ok i see now

[rich goblet]

Note that we have pretty reasonable rules, some of which you already saw

[calm knoll]

the png must be the pokemon i want to give the dex entry

[rich goblet]

Yeah, so for bulbasaur bulbasaur it would be

1.1.png

[calm knoll]

ok so for my garderoc its would be

[rich goblet]

Also which lycanroc? LOL

[calm knoll]

midnight

[rich goblet]

https://www.fusiondex.org/287.465/

[calm knoll]

yes that one

[rich goblet]

So it would be 287.465.png

[calm knoll]

oh ok

[rich goblet]

And the last question is just whatever you write for it

[calm knoll]

thx you ^^

[rich goblet]

Sometimes people will give you feedback to help make it fit

[jagged ledge]

It was funny But genuinely my favorite was the Luvdisc/Froslass

[calm knoll]

ok

[jagged ledge]

Also thank you for the help, Ducky!

[rich goblet]

But in general if you follow the guidelines it should be accepted*

We have FAQ section for commonly rejected dex entries, but its very easy to fix with the Unown Team helping

[calm knoll]

ok

[rich goblet]

Thanks for reading/listening 😄

[rich goblet]

Of course! Always

[calm knoll]

there its send with what i already propose ^^ thx again i am a bad learner so its difficule for me to understand TwT

[rich goblet]

You're alright! This is a surprisingly good place to learn how to read/write in English because its pretty strict on grammar. but also very helpful because we work with you to improve.

[calm knoll]

^^

[timid sky]

@jagged ledge dexdoku Nidoran X Grass:

POKENAME is easily blown away by strong winds, so it uses its large ears to check the wind's speed. It uses its toxic barbs to attach itself to objects to prevent itself from being blown away.

Also, I believe @deft depot likes to be pinged when one of his sprites gets a dex entry

[rich goblet]

@calm knoll

Congratulations on your first submission!

A couple of small notes.

Whenever you want to use a Pokémon's name directly, please use POKENAME. This not only makes it simpler to check, it also reduces the number of mistakes you make.

Garderoc -> POKENAME
(Required) Reason: POKENAME Syntax

Otherwise? We will fix the lack of a period (.) at the end and it should be decent...

I also have other suggestions to help make it pop if you want to read them!

a moon blessed Gardevoir -> a moon kissed Pokémon
(Optional) Reason: Connotation of Love and Adoration to the Trainer

beastly -> primal
(Optinoal) Reason: The Pokémon mentioned is closer to humanoid than beast, which primal resolves without losing the same meaning

has evolved to be stronger -> has developed love for its trainer
(Optional) Reason: Empahsis on Love for Trainer

[calm knoll]

ok i see

i go fix that

[rich goblet]

You can resubmit, or if its a small change, you can always ping the Unown Team (within reason) for help and fixing.

Watch as I ping the Unown Team right now!

<@&1210701164426039366> SAY HI!

[calm knoll]

X) ok thx you very much

[rich goblet]

Always ask if you have questions, the worst answer is no and you can try a different entry 😄

[calm knoll]

ok ^^

[narrow cosmos]

Glad you liked that one, it's fun to give the Luvdisc heads love-themed entries. Though looking back I realize it's vague on if that's supposed to be evil-sounding or not, it's more meant to be cute, but Froslass being Froslass it could come off as ulterior evil.

[rich goblet]

Time to work on my dexdoku now 😄

EDIT: Dex -> Dexdoku

[narrow cosmos]

(conversely, a bit more difficult to think up Luvdisc bodies given what you're working with )

[calm knoll]

ok done
POKENAME, a moon-kissed Pokémon who has developed love for its trainer and enhancing both its physical and psychic abilities. While all POKENAME protect their trainers, its primal nature deepens this bond, making it even more formidable

is it better like that

[rich goblet]

Better, though couple of notes

1. Period at the end.

[calm knoll]

period at the end ?

[rich goblet]

trainer, which enhances

trainer (comma) which enhances (tense change)

Period, yes

Every sentence should end with . (period) or rarely an ! (Exclaimation Point)

[calm knoll]

OH OK

[rich goblet]

Yer good

Let me know when you are ready for something harder to explain

[calm knoll]

ok

[rich goblet]

Whenever you write a dex entry or writing in general, pick whether you are talking about they/them/theirs or it/its

The reason this is important is because it helps provide clarity to what we are referring to

[calm knoll]

ok

ok done

POKENAME, a moon-kissed Pokémon, has awakened its primal form through its deep bond and love for its trainer. This connection enhances both its physical and psychic abilities, making it an even more formidable protector.

[rich goblet]

This is as far as I can help you, but I think its good enough to submit 😄

[calm knoll]

ok thx ^^

[rich goblet]

I get caught up on the they/it dichotomy a lot

If I was any better I'd defo be an Unown. But that requires WORK and stuff 😛

[calm knoll]

thx for your help atleast i learn more or to do dex entry

[rich goblet]

Of course! It's a great place to learn how to write more like a dictionary or encyclopedia

I'm going to let the Dexdoku sit a little before I go change it up

Wildheart probably didn't expect it done so fast 😅

[narrow cosmos]

Now I guess I gotta ponder what I'm gonna have Wildheart write for.

[jagged ledge]

Hi

[jagged ledge]

Honestly, I kinda like that it's sort of symbiotic and ambiguous. Makes it feel like a proper yokai

[jagged ledge]

Honestly I'm just more amazed by your speed than anything lol

[jagged ledge]

[rich goblet]

It's what happens when your childhood is comprised mostly of National Geographic Documentaries

[narrow cosmos]

https://www.fusiondex.org/107.326/

Here ya go, I guess. Chose this one because it was the final evolution of my starter on a random-starter run I did for the first time. Figure that's a good enough choice to make.

@jagged ledge

[jagged ledge]

Lol valid

[jagged ledge]

POKENAME's gloves contain powerful magnets, propelling them forward once they've locked onto a foe. POKENAME floats back and forth as it waits for its opponent to strike, repelling itself magnetically to dodge before delivering a devastating counter.

[narrow cosmos]

Now why can't I think up neat stuff like that.

Good work on it! Feels weird to ask someone else to do a dex for me though.

[jagged ledge]

Thank you! And hey, I'm always happy to work on prompts

[jagged ledge]

Also you think of a lot of neat stuff!

[narrow cosmos]

I hope to think up more!

I'm just usually too busy outside of my free days.

Which is why there tends to be a surge of sk silliness early in the week, then nothing on the weekend.

Far too tired and braindead

[rich goblet]

I found this draft funny and wanted to share

It wanders the jungle at night, carrying its yellow mask that looks like its made of grapefruit. Whether it is because it reminds people of sad memories or the tangy tart of grapefruit, the mask makes people cry regardless. https://if.daena.me/187.411

[hollow nimbus]

I like your idea; the grammar just needs a bit of refining

[craggy beacon]

"[...] that looks like it's made of grapefruit."

[hollow nimbus]

First of all, because looks like its made of grapefruit is a nonrestrictive clause, you should use which in place of that

Secondly, yes, you would add an apostrophe to its to make it into it's

You know what?
This gives me an idea

its = belongs to it

it's = it is

[hollow nimbus]

<@&306953740651462656>, do you mind pinning the post I have replied to?

That way, whenever people forget which is which, they can just quickly check the pins.

[craggy beacon]

is there a guide on semicolons? and are they eligible to be used in dex entries? if so, i wouldnt mind writing up a quick message for the pinned

[craggy beacon]

gastly coming to the rescue as per usual

[hollow nimbus]

I thought I had discussed semicolons before, but I don't think any part of it was pinned, partially because it was in the old dex entry chat

[lilac breach]

ngl even as a native english speaker, i dont really get semicolons

[hollow nimbus]

Semicolons are a difficult subject, though, because it requires a firm grasp of the parts of a sentence, and because the exact usage of semicolons can vary by person and place.

[boreal canyon]

i get semicolons, but it's maybe because i code some stuff

[nimble sage]

[craggy beacon]

LMAO

[hollow nimbus]

However, to answer your second question, you can use semicolons in dex entries.

[craggy beacon]

thanks pory, can always count on you

[nimble sage]

You asked to pin "this", not "that"

[lilac breach]

[hollow nimbus]

Well, I fixed it

[craggy beacon]

grammar police over here

[hollow nimbus]

I am the grammar police

[craggy beacon]

LMAO

[hollow nimbus]

It has been rectified

[rich goblet]

Oh btw

Have y'all seen my entries for Dexdoku yet?

[hollow nimbus]

Yes, returning to the subject of your entry

[craggy beacon]

now it doesnt make sense!

[nimble sage]

[rich goblet]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B16l9FiLZu0IznaUQcTWxRj4Ku8ElMmuzIl-mKTyvsY/edit?usp=sharing

It's the Nest Theme one

[hollow nimbus]

I can't unpin stuff

[rich goblet]

I wrote these with the mindset that I might have to change them

[lilac breach]

i did

[nimble sage]

I was going to but you were ready to pounce at the opportunity of me being wrong Gatsly

[lilac breach]

opportunity? you make it sound like its not a common thing

[hollow nimbus]

Just for the sake of concision, I suggest changing it is to it's. We are attempting an academic tone, but that doesn't mean that we're using strictly formal style.

[nimble sage]

A common occurrence is still an opportunity

[rich goblet]

It's 1 (one) character extra, I think I'm fine LOL

[craggy beacon]

dex entry where its all caps because the person writing it was running from the fusion

[hollow nimbus]

(For those who don't know, formal style forbids the use of contractions. It can come off rather unnaturally, however.)

[warped panther]

I don't think that's in IF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?

[nimble sage]

For example, you have the opportunity to see an overcast sky out your window on most days

[hollow nimbus]

Additionally, changing it is to it's helps you avoid having the same word twice in the same sentence so close together, reducing the chance of the reader becoming confused as to what the subject is.

It's not a necessary revision, but it's one that I suggest to promote clarity in your writing.

[craggy beacon]

i second that opinion 😌

[hollow nimbus]

Next, regarding this clause:
Whether it is because it reminds people of sad memories or the tangy tart of grapefruit,

Whether it is because introduces two options.
The first option you have written is it reminds people of sad memories.
The second option listed is the tangy tart of grapefruit.
If a noun such as a flavor is causing something, we would say that "It (noun) is the cause of that thing."
So, the second option should be amended to of the tangy tart of grapefruit.

Further focusing on that clause, tart is an adjective that means sour, or it is a noun that means a very small pie.
You are using it as a noun here, but I think your intention is closer to the first definition.

To change the word from a verb into a noun, we can add the suffix -ness to indicate that we are referring to the essence of tart flavor.

Whether it is because it reminds people of sad memories or of the tangy tartness of grapefruit,

[rich goblet]

@hollow nimbus First, thanks for waiting for me, second thanks for the help!

[hollow nimbus]

(Ending the sentence with regardless bugs me in some undefinable way, but I can't find any grammar rules against it, so you're free to leave it in.
I would personally remove regardless and end the sentence there, but I can't put into words the logic behind that wish.)

[rich goblet]

I had to grab a package 😅

[hollow nimbus]

It is discord
It is all writing
It will wait for you as long as you need

[rich goblet]

I know, I'm just insecure sometimes

[hollow nimbus]

But I have to go start the Theme Blitz in nine minutes, so I will return later to see whatever you write to me

[rich goblet]

np np!

[hollow nimbus]

Look what I found
I forgot I had made this

No, hang on, that's the old version
(It has a typo)

Here we go

[boreal prairie]

congratulation SK! I struggled to find the actual contest results cause i didnt realize they moved to the official event results channel lol

[rich goblet]

They struggle with self-confidence due to its public perception and otherwise bulky body. When a trainer gives them a Petaya Berry, they gain a moment of clarity, and helps them gain the self-confidence needed to push to victory. https://if.daena.me/287.241

Is this too on the nose?

[mint gyro]

Been going at filling the catchable wild fusion dex after doing random early route entries for a while.

Hope it helps, but let me know if you need me to correct anything.

[hexed fog]

the its/it's thing is one of english's many failings as a language

[hollow nimbus]

its public perception should be changed to their public perception for plurality agreement

[mint gyro]

@hexed fog My 19.8 dex entry is supposed to say pest, not past. That was a typo I didn't notice until now.

[hollow nimbus]

trainer should be changed to Trainer (Weird Game Freak thing, I blame localization)

I would change they gain a moment of clarity, and helps them gain the self-confidence needed to push to victory
to they gain a moment of clarity which helps them gain the self-confidence needed to push to victory to show the relationship between these two thoughts

(also because helps them gain the self-confidence is not a complete clause)

Well, on an unrelated note

I have a big piece of advice for people who want to improve their ability to spot grammatical errors

[rich goblet]

Go for it, I'm here to learn

[hollow nimbus]

However, it's one of those annoying pieces of advice that nobody wants to hear because it takes a lot of effort

I'm sure you've heard it before: My advice is

read and read and read.

If you regularly expose yourself to written word that has been already reviewed by an editor, you will slowly internalize the grammatical rules.

Once you have built your understanding through repeated exposure, you should be able to feel when there is a problem.

Once you are able to sense the presence of an error, you can look it up online to learn how to fix it.

This is the part where my advice varies from the standard recommendation, though:

Read books that you enjoy.

[rich goblet]

I mainly have poetry books, which doesn't help with this

Though I do have a few I haven't cracked open

So this helps a lot 😄

[timid sky]

?tag reading

[upper loom]

You should try to read NPC dialogue! They give very good hints on how to continue the game. Sometimes they also give you items! Don't forget to talk to NPC's and read what they say.

[hollow nimbus]

Lots of people say that you should read a wide variety of books and branch out to lots of different genres.
It's true that this helps you develop new ideas, but the first problem with that is that I don't know you; if you don't find it fun, you won't do it.

If you want to make a habit of reading, it's important to cultivate your enjoyment of it.

[rich goblet]

I realize something particular about the entry I just made

[rich goblet]

Where would I find info on this particular fix?

I'm totally ready to admit that they/it errors are just me being sloppy, but I don't think I understand that one conceptually

[hollow nimbus]

That particular fix is due to a few different grammatical errors.
I suggest reading about conjunctions, clauses, complex sentences, and compound sentences.

[rich goblet]

https://tenor.com/oROdNSmw5Zo.gif

Looking at a Khan academy video and I immediately think its something that I may not have paid enough attention to in school X_X

[hollow nimbus]

Anyways, real tip:
If you don't have books you find fun, go to the library and grab something that interests you.
Bring an opaque bag so nobody sees the cheesy art they put on the cover (honestly, some of the best books have the most embarrassing covers).
Be honest with yourself. You like cheesy romance, fancy vampires, dragon slayers, talking animals, whatever? Get a book with that in it. It's your fun, nobody else's.

Okay, this concludes today's public service announcement

[rich goblet]

I appreciate this tip, and I think I'll at least try to read more digital print from the library

I dunno about paper books though I'm a slob

[hexed fog]

I mean past worked lol

but thats fine

[rich goblet]

Once 16.176.png gets reviewed, Please PING me so I know to bug Izik.

Also, I looked into a few videos about conjunctions and clauses and feel smarter already.

I'm going to refine these one at a time for Dexdoku. I'll even describe what I think is iffy about them.

[jagged ledge]

I'm gonna go reread my manga collection

[rich goblet]

When its mother leaves the nest to grab a meal, it is left in charge over the nest. If any of the babies try to leave the nest during this time, it leads them baby using its soft petals.

@jagged ledge I think this solves the whole Nido-line issue? Just this one in particular though

I tried to keep it vague, unless I missed something

[jagged ledge]

Ehhh, same same but different.

[rich goblet]

This one is tricky, Maybe back to the drawing board on it

At least you have fun reading it I hope

[jagged ledge]

<@&1210701164426039366> Can I get some help explaining the situation of referring to other Pokemon in the entry?

[hollow nimbus]

In which way?

[hexed fog]

which way

oh hi real3

[jagged ledge]

Oh of course, the writing and concept is good, it's just inherently a little tricky. But that's why I'm here to help. 👍

[hollow nimbus]

Hi >:)

[hexed fog]

you can ref other pokemon, you must minimize refs to pokemon not in IF

[rich goblet]

Oooooooh

[timid sky]

The Unown trio is here

[hollow nimbus]

Are you asking about the subject matter of the entry, or about using other mon's names?

[hollow nimbus]

You did that on purpose

[jagged ledge]

So Ducky wants to do a Nidorina entry that describes interactions with Nidoqueen and NidoranF in the same evolutionary line. I'm recommending to specify the other Pokémon by name to paint a clearer picture, but Ducky was confused about the reference rules.

[timid sky]

I actually didn’t. I think that’s a sign that it’s time for bed

[hollow nimbus]

Yeah, you can say Nidorino even if the entry is about a different mon

[jagged ledge]

Yeah, it just has to operate as its own description

[rich goblet]

Ooooooooh

I think I get it, one moment

[craggy beacon]

can i ask maybe a bit of a selfish Inquiry Question Thing

[hollow nimbus]

Official dex entries do this too, especially when talking about predation or symbiosis

[hollow nimbus]

You can always ask

We just won't always answer

If you want, I can give an example entry

[craggy beacon]

this is probably my favorite sprite ive ever made, so i want to give it some attention u_u but what kinda vibe would you go with for a dex entry like this?

this isnt ACTUALLY for a dex entry, as i made this sprite literally today, just some indulgent discussion

[minor jungle]

im a little scared of the dex entry based off the name and description XD

[hollow nimbus]

I would definitely do something about loud cicadas

[craggy beacon]

the loudest cicada of them all

[hollow nimbus]

Kommo-o has loud scales, and nincada is a cicada larva

Real-life cicadas can be heard from a mile away

I'm sure this Pokémon can cause permanent hearing loss with its attacks

[craggy beacon]

itd be neat if its tail was kinda like a rattlesnake's

shaking it to make noise when threatened

[hollow nimbus]

Also, nincada's color scheme always gives me a summery vibe

[rich goblet]

Once its male counterparts leave to hunt, it is left in charge over the nest. If any of the babies try to leave the nest during this time, it ushers the baby back using its soft petals.

Small comment: I decided it would make MUCH more sense for the dudes to hunt, pseudo-biologically speaking

EDIT: leads -> Ushers

[hollow nimbus]

What do you mean by counterparts?

Does it live in family units like wolves? Or do you mean mates?

[rich goblet]

Closer to pack yes, Is there a better term?

Nestmates, err...

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hollow nimbus]

Let me look it up

[jagged ledge]

Like say something you have something like "Latios Smeargle gets into rivalries with Latias Smeargle over red vs blue." Then you could also have "Latias Smeargle gets into rivalries with Latios Smeargle about Blue vs Red" as separate entries, but you can't approach the second one assuming that people have read the first and say "Latios Smeargle paints over its rival's art."

[hollow nimbus]

packmate seems closest

[rich goblet]

PACK Mate oki oki

[jagged ledge]

Sorry, I was trying my best to explain counterpart entries properly

[hollow nimbus]

That is a different problem than I thought you were asking about

[rich goblet]

So any references MUST be able to infer information from one dex entry alone

I think

EDIT: IF so, I understand it now 😄

[hollow nimbus]

Each entry must make sense without any help from other entries

Players are not guaranteed to see all the entries in a line, especially with randomizer settings turned on

[jagged ledge]

Well I was trying to explain that part because I wanted to explain why we recommend keeping a focus on a singular Pokémon, but counterparts and connected entries can work as long as there's a singular focus that stands alone

[hollow nimbus]

So, when you make sets of entries, before submitting, carefully read each one and ask yourself two questions:

1. Does this entry assume anything without telling the reader in this entry?

2. Which Pokémon appears as the main focus of this entry's lore?

[jagged ledge]

Loud caucus clanging and chirping as they emerge from the ground at the start of spring

[hollow nimbus]

I feel like they would live in caves, though

I can give some examples to help make things more clear.

[rich goblet]

It ensures food that arrives at its nest is safe for its siblings by tasting the food with its tongue. It saves the best snacks for the younger siblings, while it sustains itself with scraps.

Here I hope the assumption is made that:

Younger could be age OR pre-evolution

AND that the 108.30 is still front and center to the dex entry

[jagged ledge]

Caves are in the ground. Just ground above most ground

Oh sorry wrong reply lol

[hollow nimbus]

Looks good, though I don't know what else one would use for tasting than a tongue

[craggy beacon]

EVERYONE hates them

[jagged ledge]

But they pretty

[rich goblet]

Its for a Lickitung entry It don't DO much other than that

[jagged ledge]

Ok so the vagueness of the relationship is intentional, got it.

[hollow nimbus]

Example of wrong focus:
If a (prevo POKENAME) finds a sword, it trains endlessly. If it masters every technique, it evolves into POKENAME.

-# This example entry talks about the pre-evolved form more than the current form!

[rich goblet]

At the crack of dawn, it emerges from its nest to hunt for bugs or exposed roots. This burst of early morning activity catches most prey by surprise, so it brings plenty of food back to its nest.

EDIT: back to its nest insertion

It feels wrong this one

OH

I forgot to clarify where 'back' is

[hollow nimbus]

Example of correct focus:
(prevo POKENAME) becomes POKENAME once it masters every technique. It uses its skills to defend its allies tirelessly.

-# This entry talks mainly about the current state of the fusion!

[hollow nimbus]

I mean, you already said emerges from its nest, so I think that back to its nest isn't strictly necessary.

[rich goblet]

I have a funny one I want to share, feedback optional since I know it has at least an error in it

When autumn ends, it finds a nest to hibernate inside. It is tolerated by the residents because it blocks off tunnels to the nest, helping keep warmth inside until spring.

[ebon warren]

Insects and certain lizards have receptors on their hands/walking appendages that can detect smells and tastes, so it's possible something else could taste, just probably not in that example

[hollow nimbus]

Looks good, the only edits I have are optional

[rich goblet]

But did you laugh

[hollow nimbus]

When autumn ends, it finds a nest to hibernate in. It is tolerated by the original residents because it blocks off tunnels leading to the nest, which helps keep warmth inside until spring.

These are all slight phrasing changes that I think better illustrate your intent

Again, what you had before was not incorrect

[hollow nimbus]

I rarely laugh aloud from funny things

It's not you, it's me

[rich goblet]

It's alright

[jagged ledge]

Did you ever see my Unown/Unown entry?

[rich goblet]

I just imagine a fat snorlax bursting in and being rolled around

[hollow nimbus]

(Also, I am currently not sleep deprived. Everything is funnier when I'm sleep deprived.)

[jagged ledge]

As someone currently sleep deprived, I sadly cannot share that experience

[hollow nimbus]

If it was in the Sprite Gallery, I probably saw it and then forgot it

[ebon warren]

Speaking of you, is it only squids, or do you enjoy ALL cephalopods? Or only specifically coleoids? (I don't recall your bio having that detail previously and I just saw it )

[hollow nimbus]

Just squids

Though I do know a bit about other cephalopods due to their similarity to squids

You type in squid, and you'll find a lot of octopus stuff

[craggy beacon]

fun fact, i'm dissecting a squid tomorrow

[ebon warren]

No cuttlefish

[hollow nimbus]

Oh cool
Have fun
I can't do dissections

They make me lightheaded

[craggy beacon]

fair enough 😮‍💨 i havent done one since elementary school so im excited

(im currently a junior )

[hollow nimbus]

It's weird
I look at the cut-open toad
I don't feel any disgust
I feel no nausea
But my head starts feeling like it's floating

(My lab partners turned over the toad so I could draw a picture of the other side)

||We NEED Inkay in so I can start infodumping my obscure squid facts into PIF||

[ebon warren]

Malamar is awesome

[craggy beacon]

think of all the joke fusions wehre its just the pokemon upside down

[rich goblet]

It holds a guard stick and monitors the area around its dam during a nightly vigil. If a high pitched wail is heard nearby, it either means an intruder is in the dam, or one of its cohorts has lost its guard stick.

This one here yeah

Fomantis/Bidoof

[hollow nimbus]

What is a guard stick?

[rich goblet]

Like a spear but smaller

[hollow nimbus]

I've not heard of it before

[rich goblet]

I should rest soon, I do not do well when sleepy

[craggy beacon]

its an item in final fantasy apparently

[hollow nimbus]

It's like a pointy version of a baton?

[craggy beacon]

[rich goblet]

heck we'll just say spear

[craggy beacon]

could also just say "stick", looking at the sprite

[rich goblet]

oh

[hollow nimbus]

I can find only two definitions

1. One specific character's weapon in FF
2. A specific brand of sunscreen

[rich goblet]

STICK IT IS!

[craggy beacon]

this fusion defends itself by squirting sunscreen in its opponents eyes and shouting final fantasy 7 facts

[ebon warren]

Both would be quite effective

[craggy beacon]

LMAO

[rich goblet]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B16l9FiLZu0IznaUQcTWxRj4Ku8ElMmuzIl-mKTyvsY/edit?usp=sharing

Today's revisions have been put in "Nest Them" Dexdoku -- for the curious. Either way, I'ma take a break so don't start a fire without me

[craggy beacon]

🔥

[rich goblet]

NO

🧯

[ebon warren]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-making-fire-creating-fire-gif-4966035

[craggy beacon]

[rich goblet]

[hollow nimbus]

Don't worry
We'll make sure to invite you to the next arson party

I, too, must depart

[jagged ledge]

Wait before you go

I found it

[hollow nimbus]

I see
Humorous

However, I did not laugh

[jagged ledge]

I'll take it

[hollow nimbus]

The corners of my mouth did lift slightly, so for that, I give you credit

[jagged ledge]

[hollow nimbus]

Good night

[jagged ledge]

Have a good night!

[hollow nimbus]

Oh, wait, I just found something that did make me laugh a bit

https://tenor.com/view/it-couldnt-have-just-walked-away-gif-26408548

Okay, that's all

Good night

[jagged ledge]

[hollow nimbus]

May you not dream of grammar, because dreaming of work is annoying

[craggy beacon]

goodnight 🫡

[hexed fog]

@narrow cosmos I wanna see you hit 2000 by end of the month >:O

get writing

https://tenor.com/view/richard-attenborough-whip-whipped-whiplash-whiplashed-gif-16685949900343051341

but in all honesty, I am so proud of how many youve done so far 🙂

We are under 5200 wild entries as a team

Think we can get that to 2500 by end of the month?

[mint gyro]

I'll do my best lol

Didn't expect to contribute a lot of my own work getting into this

[jagged ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/popeye-witch-throw-roll-whip-gif-17406872

Be nice to the writers

[hexed fog]

Not me actually remembering watching this a child

Now my back hurts

[craggy beacon]

🫵 👨‍🦲

[narrow cosmos]

If I hit 2000 by the end of the month, the crunch from that will probably make me evaporate by the end.

https://tenor.com/view/whats-happening-bye-gone-dust-bucky-barnes-gif-16387508

[jagged ledge]

Please do not strain yourself

[narrow cosmos]

Too late, murdering my brain and fingers both

[jagged ledge]

Noooo

[clear hollow]

Long time ago, POKENAME was banished to another dimension as a punishment for being too affectionate and clingy. The liquid that oozes from its wings is made up of tears of longing, spilled by those who miss their loved ones.
does this make sense?

[craggy beacon]

"his wings" should be its wings or their wings

gendered pronoun

[clear hollow]

...how did I not notice this?

I think I used Google Translate for the oozing part cuz I wasn't sure how to phrase it in English, and it translated our neuter pronoun as masculine cuz we use the same word for both cases

[severe merlin]

lol

[fervent violet]

Peak

[timid sky]

You gotta love when you're trying to make a pokedex entry about a bulbasaur fusion that doesn't have a bulb on its back when litteraly all of Bulbasaur's dex entries talk about the bulb on its back

[timid sky]

@jagged ledge Dexdoku Ninjask X Grass:

Ninjask is already hard to spot thanks to its incredibly fast movements, but after its fusion with Bulbasaur, it has gained plant life that allows it to camouflage itself when near greenery. The plants around its mouth muffle its loud cries.

[rich goblet]

@hexed fog Can I ask you something special?

[craggy beacon]

isn't it a rule where the dex entry can't mention fusing? like it has to be treated as just another Pokemon

[rich goblet]

I know off the top of my head that mentioning fusion is definitely allowed.

AND

The example shown could be tweaked a little to rely on it less.

[boreal canyon]

yes it'sin the FAQ

[rich goblet]

In this context it seems as though the focus is on the unfused forms...

[boreal canyon]

but you never have to talk about fusions being fusions

[rich goblet]

I get that, it's more an opinion piece for me

It feels FAQ-7 without being FAQ-7

[timid sky]

These are the only things I could find about mentioning fusion

[rich goblet]

Mention is fine, but how is a different matter IMO

I feel uneasy about fitting two composite pokemon into an entry, as I (generally) avoid references to other entries as a stylistic choice

Probs why I defer to others often

[timid sky]

I'm more so discussing the effects of the fusion. Specifically, how it makes Ninjask even harder to spot then normal

[rich goblet]

I'll take a second read to see other issues or word cutting I can do w/o cutting the main thematic elements

to camouflage itself when near greenery.

try one of the following if you want

to camouflage among the greenery.

to hide itself in the forest greenery

I think when is a bit funny since its natural habitat is the forest (I imagine) so something along spatial terms feel better in my opinion

Otherwise a rocksolid entry 😄

[hexed fog]

I hate when my husband says this just ask lol

worst i can say is no

[timid sky]

There are so many worse things that can be said

[hexed fog]

worst i am ALLOWED to say is no

[rich goblet]

I realize I pressed enter too early, WHOOPS

Also I submitted another entry to make up for the one rejected, and if it works I think I have a sprite in mind 😄

[hexed fog]

I'd approve this btw. I /prefer/ when it talks about it directly but it is not required

[timid sky]

I wish to wait for Wildheart before submitting, as it is a dexdoku entry

[hexed fog]

o ok

tbf my standards are low af

getting approval from me is probably not the best LOL

[rich goblet]

tfw you're still playing catchup

[regal cedar]

That itself is something worth pointing out if you'd like!

[regal cedar]

Wait, which rule is this?

[boreal canyon]

7 i think

idr

[jagged ledge]

I mean for the record, letting other Unown help review Dexdoku as well would lift quite a weight off my shoulders, and I always am a fan of more input/peer review...

But in this case, I do think I would ask for a bit more to be changed than Izik here

[regal cedar]

Yes, precisely this.

The specifics of how they fused are typically a no-no, but them being fused and mentioned as such is OK.

[jagged ledge]

My issue with this is it reads more trading card than Pokedex if that makes sense. It's describing this more as an offshoot or upgrade of Ninjask rather than its own unique species.

A way to remedy this would be saying something like "The plants growing around a POKENAME's face grant it a wider variety of options for stealth than most species of Ninjask." Then continue by describing what the leaves do as you have been doing.

[boreal canyon]

i think it's kinda like faq19

no ?

[ivory pewter]

POKENAME is easily enraged, and charges directly at the source of its ire. Once it makes contact, it uses its tails to relentlessly strike its target.
```.

[regal cedar]

No, this is referring to, say, describing a fusion of Muk as just a Muk who happened to absorb some trash, or a Charmander who's carrying a stick.

[ivory pewter]

Extremely toxic oils are secreted from this Pokémon's leaves. It uses this in combination with its incredible speed to overwhelm its prey.

[regal cedar]

Looking good!

[ivory pewter]

The flowers that produce the nectar POKENAME eats make it mildly poisonous. As it dances, it raises and retracts spines under its feathers to add a subtle flair.
```.

Really love the nidos, so it's been fun writing stuff for them for dexdoku

[timid sky]

Thing is, I need to make sure you see it since I need you to add it to the grid

I'll rework the entry later

Class is about to start

[jagged ledge]

That is also a very good point. Best of luck with your class.

[timid sky]

BTW, did you see my Hoppip/Nidoran Male entry?

[jagged ledge]

I saw it, I did not properly read it, I will do so when I am able and respond once you're available.

[jagged ledge]

I really like the first sentence... my concern with the second sentence is asking if it stops short of just charging into its target to instead use its tails?

[timid sky]

For your convivence:

POKENAME is easily blown away by strong winds, so it uses its large ears to check the wind's speed. It uses its toxic barbs to attach itself to objects to prevent itself from being blown away.

[jagged ledge]

Thank you!

Honestly I really like it, looks good to me!

[jagged ledge]

Looks good to me!

[ivory pewter]

Tweaked a little. Made it slightly more clear

[jagged ledge]

Wrong reply, sorry DarkWeavile

[jagged ledge]

Change the first sentence to "The flowers that produce the nectar that POKENAME eats make it mildly poisonous." and you're good to go.

[jagged ledge]

Oh boy do I have good news for you if you look at the list of high priority Pokémon

[ivory pewter]

Coolcool, should be good on those 3

[jagged ledge]

(I would still recommend saying mildly poisonous over minorly poisonous, but minorly isn't incorrect)

[ivory pewter]

Oh? 👀 where can I find that?

Ah mild was the word I was looking for, thx

[jagged ledge]

Check the tabs on the spreadsheet of #dex-entries-submissions

Although technically ironically I might recommend waiting until after Dexdoku so people have easier inspiration for their grids

Or you could pick up the ones that are other types in the meantime. Lots of Fighting Types out there.

But yeah I'm kinda using this Dexdoku as an introduction to popularize writing for the 'mon left stranded on the Priority List. I have some other examples in the works, but a different plan for the next one

[ivory pewter]

Making a game out of it seems like a pretty nice way to make a push for some neglected mons, excited to see what's up next

POKENAME rubs against people and other Pokémon to generate static electricity. If someone it dislikes tries to grab its strings, it expels all the static at once to give them a large shock.

[boreal canyon]

ok

[hexed fog]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1351243546207977502

Thanks @rich goblet for finishing last week's DictionDex!

[jagged ledge]

Adorable, approved lol

[ivory pewter]

A noble defender that lives in harmony with other forest-dwellers. Despite its usual reserved nature, POKENAME puts on a fierce display of its strength when warding forests from great disasters. 

[jagged ledge]

Looks good!

[ivory pewter]

It escapes danger by extending its ears to launch into treetops, then swinging away on branches with its tail. In the rare event that it needs to fight, its ears pack a stronger punch than any of its hands.
```.

[timid sky]

@jagged ledge Dexdoku Ninjask X Grass version 2:

POKENAME is even more difficult to spot then other species of Ninjask, due to the plants on its body allowing it to blend in with other greenery. The plants around its mouth muffle its normally loud cries, making it difficult to hear as well.

[clear hollow]

How does the process work if a sprite wasn't added to the game yet? Do you guys check such entries with every sprite pack, or is it better for me to just wait for my sprite to be added and then send the entry? (which I don't mind doing at all)

[timid sky]

There is a "no sprite yet" tag, but it's probably better to wait for the sprite to be added in game.

[regal cedar]

Yeah, or at least for a while.

[ivory pewter]

May have mistaken this one for trevenant lol. Why does the phantump fusion look more threatening than the trevenant one

That entry should still work fine for this sprite yeah?

[regal cedar]

different spriter probably

[jagged ledge]

Maybe just say "by extending its ears" as opposed to using. Paints a clearer picture that way

[ivory pewter]

The unnerving visage of this Pokémon strikes FEAR in the hearts of those who gaze upon it. Anyone who dares to look at the crack on its back is left on the brink of death.

(Note sure if the death mention is all good for these entries or not)

[jagged ledge]

I actually don't think you need the comma before due, but I could be wrong. Also should probably change allowing to helping. That last bit at the end isn't really helping much, if you're looking to rework the second sentence, I would say something like "It wraps leaves around its mouth to act as a mask to muffle its piercing cries." Or something like that.

[jagged ledge]

While I understand the reference, sadly using caps lock FEAR would not fit the dex. Lowercase fear is fine as a wink wink nudge nudge. And yeah it's not gory or drawn out and it fits Shedinja, so I think it's ok.

[ivory pewter]

Yeah i figured full caps on that would be pushing it lol

[jagged ledge]

You're good, it was worth a shot so we can get the reference here at least

[jagged ledge]

I think the entry works either way. Your choice tbh.

Worst comes to worst if you got the sprite number wrong, I can fix it.

[ivory pewter]

Oh if u can fix numbers then a heads-up, I may have entered the wrong number for the buneary/aipom. May have put it under the one for rattata shedinja on accident

Although its blinding speed and deafening cry would be enough to disorient its opponents, it whips up a storm of sickeningly sweet flower petals to confuse them even further. When it senses an opportunity to strike, it brings down its sickles with enough power to tear through steel.
```.

Despite most Doduo species having identical brains, this fusion seems to cause a split between them. While one head dreams of soaring into the sky, the other attempts to hide away by burying itself.
```.

[hexed fog]

72 entries remain until we are under 5000

[boreal prairie]

wait if we do the diction dex you do a sprite 😮

[jagged ledge]

You can trim down Even though to Although, but otherwise looks good.

[hexed fog]

Yup! anyone who does all 50 can request a sprite to be filled in on the sheet

i never promise a design

just that an empty slot will be filled

[jagged ledge]

Probably change it to be "Despite most species of Doduo having similar brains between their two heads." Either way, lowercase all but the first letter of Doduo.

[boreal prairie]

what do you mean by this?

[hexed fog]

So you can say "fill in Poliwag/Pidgey" but you cant say "I want its wings to be straight up while it poses like Madonna"

[ivory pewter]

Although its speed and deafening cry would be enough to disorient its foes, it whips up a storm of flower petals to confuse them even further. When there is an opportunity to strike, it brings down its sickles with enough power to tear through steel.

Trimmed down to 250 on the dot. This still good?

[jagged ledge]

Looks good to me!

[ivory pewter]

POKENAME is extremely territorial and gives no second chances to intruders. The strikes it unleashes are powerful enough to shatter boulders and shake the earth.

[hexed fog]

we are officially under 5000 remaining for Wild Mon entries!

[ivory pewter]

POKENAME makes wild twisting motions to swing its powerful tail. Anything struck by one of these blows is sure to be demolished.

[hexed fog]

well done everyone

[rich goblet]

I am going to take a break here, this Dexdoku is looking nice 😄

My perfectionist mindset is weeping

[midnight siren]

where'd you get that template? cause my attempt is currently just in a notepad file

[rich goblet]

I made it

[midnight siren]

ah, fair enough lol

[timid sky]

What’s wrong with it?

[rich goblet]

I was interrupted IRL. I notice that my 50 entries for 3/7 were not all accepted

Sorry, was poor timing on it all

[jagged ledge]

If you're hoping to submit entries for Dexdoku, a grid is never mandatory, it can just help me to keep track of which entries you're submitting so I can make a grid for you if there is interest/need for one.

[midnight siren]

i would love one, cause currently i just have a notepad doc and like 9 tabs

ive still got to find one for nido/flying, inspiration isnt hitting me for any of these

[jagged ledge]

Well if you review your entries with me and tell me which box each one fills, I'd be happy to help

[midnight siren]

Nido/Grass: 45.32 -> The petals of the flower on the back of POKENAME are so large that they can be used as a way to camouflage. POKENAME hunts with the paralysing spores emitted by this plant.

Ninjask/Grass: 352.356 -> The prey of POKENAME are lured in by its beautiful flowers. When they come in contact with these petals, the prey will be poisoned and swiftly die.

PokeRadar/Grass: 102.488 -> As POKENAME travels, it keeps it's seeds safe inside its carton-like shell. As it can only feed a small number at once, it will shed these seeds which will eventually become new POKENAME.

Nido/Normal: 128.33 -> Herds of POKENAME can be found stampeding across open plains. They are often kept as pets for Rodeo riding.

Nincada/Normal: 235.382 -> The territory of a POKENAME is marked by unique patterns painted on trees, plants and rocks. Disputes over these territories are settled through graffiti battles.

PokeRadar/Normal: 206.395 -> The wings on the back of POKENAME are not strong enough to allow for flight. This doesn't stop POKENAME from trying, often being seen jumping from trees and rocks attempting to glide.

Shedinja/Flying: 289.83 -> The leek carried by POKENAME is imbued with ghostly energy. Upon contact, it will temporarily sever the nerves wherever it hit.

PokeRadar/Flying: 290.12 -> POKENAME has several false eyes along its wings and antenna. When threatened, the rest of its body will change into the colour of its background, leaving the floating eyes behind.

those are the ones i have atm, im working on my nido/flying

Nido/Flying: 442.32 -> POKENAME's wings are incredibly fluffy to the touch. However, the clouds are made up of an evaporated toxin that causes itchiness or a rash.

[jagged ledge]

Awesome, thanks. I'll be sure to review with you after giving Ducky some notes

[midnight siren]

amazing, thank you!

[jagged ledge]

Almost all of them look solid, I especially like the story you have with Sunflora/Nincada, but there are two entries I do have significant notes for.

[rich goblet]

I am back from a quick phone call so shoot

TLDR; Grippy Sock Land escape has consequences. Escape as in discharge, not elopment >3>

[jagged ledge]

First off, you should change "which helping keep" to "which helps keep" and secondly, it'll probably be best to say tunnels leading outside, because they're trying to keep the warmth inside from the perspective of inside the nest.

[rich goblet]

https://tenor.com/bz3kP.gif

[ivory pewter]

It injects a potent venom into its prey through its talons. If its prey continues to struggle, POKENAME will slam them into the ground at high speeds.

Realized I misread the template, so time for more entries

[jagged ledge]

It's alright! Just be sure to compile the list at the end and either way I'm happy to help with your entries!

[rich goblet]

The conceptual level seems lacking. I think the poison-claw is the focus right? May I try to offer some stylistic suggestions?

[ivory pewter]

Open to suggestions. I was mainly looking to play off talonflame hunting down other mons & supplementing it w/ nidoking's strengths

[jagged ledge]

Also one more entry that needs work imo. Even if you were to use the term "swimming" to describe the log in the river, logs would float horizontally on the river and at the perspective that the Pokemon would be submerged at, it would appear to be a vertical log if anything. Did you mean tree stump?

[rich goblet]

It injects an extremely powerful venom into its prey through its talons. If this does not finish its prey, POKENAME will slam them into the ground at high speeds.

Consider the following:

extremely powerful => potent
It's a simple change that frees up a lot of characters

If this does not finish its prey -> If its prey continues to struggle
It's a change that adds a bit to what I think what you are going for, a persistent and hard to kill prey

[rich goblet]

This is really insightful, I'll definitely workshop this one a bit more! I think emphasis on the apperance does work, only how is being a little fussy XD

[jagged ledge]

Also quick question just to be safe, how did you misread the template? I just wanted to ask to potentially spare you from having to do too much extra

[ivory pewter]

Mmm yeah I like those, thx

I just didn't register that it was choose 1 of them for the whole column

[rich goblet]

I did that one myself

I remember that day well

[jagged ledge]

Oh by no means do you have to

[rich goblet]

A WHOLE LINE!? No problem

[ivory pewter]

Oh

Eh well

[jagged ledge]

No they're saying the opposite lol

[ivory pewter]

I was still gonna cook up more anyways, so I'll pump out a few & see what I like

[rich goblet]

Psst. Flying Type or Flying-Type

[jagged ledge]

Look at my example grid, I did both Nidorans interchangably

[ivory pewter]

Ah coolcool ok

[jagged ledge]

I meant Choose One Per Square

[jagged ledge]

Depends on the context I think actually

[rich goblet]

It is so convincing as a tree stump that Flying(-Type) Pokémon use it as a perch to preen their wings.

EDIT: Insect wings exist and are not feathers

[ebon warren]

You would hyphenate when the phrase is being used to describe something.
The Flying type is a compound noun. Type wouldn't be capitalized however.
A Flying-type attack uses it as an adjective describing the attack, which is the noun. Type still isn't capitalized.

[rich goblet]

So this case Hyphenate to scribe pokemon

and keep type on lower here

[jagged ledge]

I would suggest changing this to say something along the lines of "POKENAME hide beneath the large petals of their flowers" or something similar/expanded. Just because usually the bigger the trait, the harder it is to camoflauge. Especially because in this case it would be more a disguise to blend in with other flowers than actively altering the appearance or color to blend in i.e. Kecleon

[midnight siren]

POKENAME hide beneath the large petals of their flowers to disguise themselves from their prey. POKENAME hunts with the paralysing spores emitted by this plant. -> more like this?

[jagged ledge]

Well now the issue is that the second sentence should be adjusted to compensate. Either "Emitted by their flowers" or something more active or descriptive.

[rich goblet]

POKENAME (discharge or release or produce) paralysing spores to (hunt or restrain or capture)

[jagged ledge]

I feel like this one is weighed down by relying too much on the reverse subject/scene. Maybe something like "POKENAME lure in prey with their flowers." Then something about the flowers being laced with poison.

Sorry if that's a little vague, I just don't want to completely write your entry for you lol

[midnight siren]

POKENAME hide beneath the large petals of their flowers to disguise themselves from their prey. POKENAME emit paralysing spores from their petals to hunt.

[midnight siren]

dw, thats more helpful to me than just giving me a new sentence

[jagged ledge]

👍

[jagged ledge]

Wrong its.

[midnight siren]

it always catches me out

[jagged ledge]

Uhhh I like it, but you might want to change it to rodeo herding, not riding. Riding a Nidorino sounds painful

[midnight siren]

POKENAME lures in its prey with its beautiful flowers. Upon contact, these petals induce poison, swiftly killing the prey.

[jagged ledge]

Sounds good!

[midnight siren]

is rodeo capitalised? i thought it might have been, cause its an activity, but im not sure

[jagged ledge]

I am not sure actually, one second

Doesn't seem like it I think

[regal cedar]

yeah it is not capitalized

[midnight siren]

awesome, good to know for sure

[ebon warren]

Activities aren't normally capitalized. Proper nouns and names and similar things, yes.
A rodeo is just a normal noun

[jagged ledge]

Looks good, no notes

[jagged ledge]

You can remove "often being seen" to just say "jumping from trees or rocks in attempts to start gliding" or something similar.

[jagged ledge]

Might be a little violent, but if the other <@&1210701164426039366> say it's ok, I think it works. If not, maybe numb the muscles?

[hollow nimbus]

I would say impair rather than sever

Severed nerves gives an unpleasant mental image

I don't want to have to think about specific internal damage

[jagged ledge]

Maybe say leaving the illusion of floating eyes behind? It's a little odd to describe false eyes then actively describe them as eyes.

[midnight siren]

would "blocks the nerves" work better?

[jagged ledge]

Instead of "an evaporated toxin", maybe "a toxic mist"?

[midnight siren]

ok, so after the feedback this is what the entries are looking like

[ebon warren]

You could also say damages since it clarified as temporarily.

[midnight siren]

Nido/Grass: 45.32 -> POKENAME hide beneath the large petals of their flowers to disguise themselves from their prey. POKENAME emit paralysing spores from their petals to hunt.

Ninjask/Grass: 352.356 -> POKENAME lures in its prey with its beautiful flowers. Upon contact, these petals induce poison, swiftly killing the prey.

PokeRadar/Grass: 102.488 -> As POKENAME travels, it keeps its seeds safe inside its carton-like shell. As it can only feed a small number at once, it will shed these seeds which will eventually become new POKENAME.

Nido/Normal: 128.33 -> Herds of POKENAME can be found stampeding across open plains. They are often kept as pets for rodeo herding.

Nincada/Normal: 235.382 -> The territory of a POKENAME is marked by unique patterns painted on trees, plants and rocks. Disputes over these territories are settled through graffiti battles.

PokeRadar/Normal: 206.395 -> The wings on the back of POKENAME are not strong enough to allow for flight. This doesn't stop POKENAME from trying, jumping from trees and rocks attempting to glide.

Nido/Flying: 442.32 -> POKENAME's wings are incredibly fluffy to the touch. However, the clouds are made up of a toxic mist that causes itchiness or a rash.

Shedinja/Flying: 289.83 -> The leek carried by POKENAME is imbued with ghostly energy. Upon contact, it temporarily deadens the nerves wherever it hit.

PokeRadar/Flying: 290.12 -> POKENAME has several false eyes along its wings and antenna. When threatened, the rest of its body will change into the colour of its background, leaving the illusion of floating eyes behind.

[crimson ledge]

I'd suggest "deadens" or "numbs", both are terms more associated with nerve damage.

[midnight siren]

i think deadens sounds good, thank you!

[midnight siren]

any more feedback on these?

[mint gyro]

I think I've only now realized that a flaw in some of my dex entries is that I assume the wild fusions happen unnaturally, so sometimes I write some dex entries basically being
"This Pokémon isn't used to having this trait from the other Pokémon it is fused with, and must try to accommodate for it."

So that's probably why my Pidgey Weepinbell and Pidgeotto Weepinbell dex entries aren't approved yet

[clear hollow]

do both Nidorans count as one because their name's the same despite having different dex numbers, or is this the case for Nidorin@s and Nidoroyals too?

[jagged ledge]

Different dex numbers, different species. But you can use a different Nido-family Pokémon in each box if you want.

Choose one per box, not choose one overall

[clear hollow]

aaah, I think Nincada being chosen in all three confused me a bit 😅 thanks!

[craggy beacon]

incredibly based choices i am not biased whatsoever

[jagged ledge]

No worries, that was just a personal choice because Nincada needs a LOT of entries on the High Priority List.

I was just like "I don't want to only make it Nincada, that would be too limiting. Eh, I might as well play around and take three for the team."

[clear hollow]

also minded to ask, is there an up-to-date list of pokeradar encounters anywhere? the wiki one's up to v6.4

[craggy beacon]

6.5 didnt add any new radar encounters

so 6.4 would be up to date

[clear hollow]

thanks!

[jagged ledge]

I pinned it in the #1210021946105004052 channel!

[clear hollow]

This Pokémon has two sets of udders for double milk efficiency. However, since POKENAME's diet consists mainly of poisonous plants and mushrooms, not everyone can drink its milk.
Nidoqueen + Normal, 241.31.png just saving the number for the future

[clear hollow]

POKENAME live in large groups that look like fields of pink flowers from afar. They keep their young close to the ground and cover them up with their bodies, making them almost unnoticeable to the sky-dwelling predators.
Nidorina + Grass, 477.30png

This Pokémon's large ears and whiskers are very sensitive to the sounds and ground vibrations. When hunting, POKENAME stuns its prey with ultrasonic waves before stabbing it with its highly venomous horn.
Nidoran + Flying, 440.29.png

[clear hollow]

These Pokémon burry themselves into the clouds, making them their home. When the clouds darken and thicken, POKENAME come out and rub their wings against one another, the wing vibrations forcing the clouds to rain and creating a soft melody.
Nincada + Flying, 442.382.png

[clear hollow]

POKENAME can be found hanging motionless on the trunks of fruit trees. There's a great force hiding within its seemingly hollow shell that can only be unleashed if POKENAME is heavily disturbed or just very hungry.
Shedinja + Normal, 309.289.png

During the day, POKENAME gathers sunlight with its leaves and converts it into energy, storing it in the abdomen. When the sun goes down, POKENAME uses this energy to cover large distances with blinding speed and spread its seeds everywhere it flies.
Ninjask + Grass, 192.356.png

[clear hollow]

POKENAME likes collecting interesting things, but doesn't like paying for them. It would approach people, smiling adorably, and offer them coins in exchange for their valuables, except these coins are fake and are just painted pieces of cardboard.
PokeRadar + Normal, 235.52.png

[clear hollow]

Despite being strong and muscular, POKENAME struggles to fly due to its heavy weight and relatively small wings. It never stops trying though, as it dreams of reaching the top of a rainbow one day.
PokeRadar + Flying, 395.250.png

[ebon warren]

One of the first rules in the FAQ is that fusion happens naturally, but you are not allowed to describe the process by which it occurs (as that isn't actually canon so it would be creating lore).
So yes, if any entry makes a fusion sound like it is impossible to occur naturally, that wouldn't be approved

[clear hollow]

When POKENAME swim, they look like huge flowers floating on top of a river. They build dams as their nests and adorn them with thorny and poisonous vegetation for defence. POKENAME are very friendly, but their pollen is extremely allergic.
PokeRadar + Grass, 45.383.png

these are my nine dexdoku entries, please lemme know if they should be edited before submitting

[ebon warren]

@jagged ledge start of list

[mint gyro]

I may as well rewrite those entries then, as well as any other ones that need clarification

[jagged ledge]

Thank you!

[jagged ledge]

I am literally just waking up so I can't go through in full just yet. Just a heads up someone else is also using this one. There's no penalties for doing a repeat, I just might inspect it closer or be more firm in revision suggestions.

[midnight siren]

I didn’t realise there was an IF pokeradar, so I used the BDSP list

time to make a new entry for my radar/grass slot then

[midnight siren]

PokeRadar/Grass: 418.278 -> POKENAME is a notorious egg thief with a top speed of 50 MPH. When it is running away from robbed nests, it will jump into the air and glide for short periods of time.

[clear hollow]

What happens if a sprite has several entries that aren't made by the original spriter? Will they show up in the game randomly or is it first come first serve or something?

[midnight siren]

to my knowledge its only the first entry that shows up

so its either the first one made, or the orignal spriter's entry

[jagged ledge]

They all show up randomly, it's just that we have to be extra thorough to make sure each entry is distinct enough to warrant using both entries. Especially in Dexdoku where it's actively a contest scoring for originality. Also there are so many Pokémon that still need entries, entries for sprites that already have one tend to be lower priority for Approval.

So technically you can write an entry for a sprite with an existing entry no problem, there's just a lot of other options out there and I will be judging that entry a bit more thoroughly due to the nature of it being a contest.

[regal cedar]

Hi @rich goblet !

I saw that you have 3 entries for "60.190"

One is clearly a replacement/update, but two are significantly different:

"It swings between trees in search of its next meal and communicates that an area is barren with a series of grunts and snorts. It latches onto a branch once it finds a Loquat or other fruits that resemble peaches."

"It loves to steal food, so when it is presented with a Silver Pinap Berry, it will jump into the sky to seize the berry. If it held an item before the battle started, it will be easier to steal once it has fainted."

Was the second one intended for a different Pokémon or sprite?

[rich goblet]

One moment, I think I did make a mistake, looking into it now

207.402 matches alongside

"It loves to steal food, so when it is presented with a Silver Pinap Berry, it will jump into the sky to seize the berry. If it held an item before the battle started, it will be easier to steal once it has fainted."

I figured that drifblim love stealing in general, and the gligar probably has like access to acrobatics

@regal cedar Thanks for catching that, sorry for the fuss, I usually copy and paste in bulk once I come up and write loads of them

[regal cedar]

All good! It's happened to a few people, including me.

[narrow cosmos]

It trains itself by flying above and striking others with its fist-feet. Because of its small stature, the strikes are viewed more as a considerable nuisance than actually painful.

I'm just sharing this one because I find it amusing, imagine if Zubats were annoying not because of consistent bites, but because they flew above you and kept bopping you on the head.

[timid sky]

The real reason Zubat is annoying is because you can’t take 2 steps in any non Unovan cave without encountering one

[jagged ledge]

Oh btw did you ever submit the Hitmonpass entry or would you like me to do it for you?

[narrow cosmos]

I never submitted it, I didn't know that was something I needed to do, so if you could do it for me, that'd be great!

[jagged ledge]

No worries! Want me to put it under credits for you?

[narrow cosmos]

If you want! I thought that since you made it it would just be considered yours, I didn't know it was supposed to be like, potentially a free dex entry in my name or something for winning the contest.

[jagged ledge]

Well it's still a relatively new thing and we're not quite sure where or how the credits are going to work in-game, so I at least wanted to offer since it was your prize lol

[narrow cosmos]

I'll take it, lol

[jagged ledge]

Sounds good!

[midnight siren]

think this got a bit buried, any feedback on this?

[jagged ledge]

Maybe instead of "When it is running away from robbed nests" say "Once it has gained enough speed"? It's not quite as specific of a scene, but communicates the mechanics better? Or play around with that as a concept at least.

[midnight siren]

POKENAME is a notorious egg thief with a top speed of 50 MPH. Once it reaches this speed, it will jump into the air and glide for short periods of time.

thoughts?

[craggy beacon]

reminds me of the egg robbing scene from the croods

love it

[jagged ledge]

Permission to go on a mild example ramble because I finally have words for a recurring issue across a couple writers?

[midnight siren]

ya, go for it

[jagged ledge]

inhales

Ok so

Using "this (blank)" to reference a subject is a kind of slippery slope that only works in a bit of a specific situation. "This (blank)" is primarily used to refer back to a described subject in the first sentence, making it most effective as an introduction to a second sentence or occasionally the ending to the second sentence. But most notably, it's an expansion, not a segue or repetition.

"I went to the store for my favorite orange juice. This brand is extra rich in Vitamin D."

"Today is Sunday, so I'mgoing to the diner. They only have the signature special on this menu."

"POKENAME runs at high speed stealing eggs. This habit has earned it a reputation."

Etc.

The reason that the last one tends to work best in a Pokedex entry compared to the first two is because the first two require an active voice and context of the setting or environment where as the last one can record a behavior or trait specifically.

So my suggested revision would be to be more active and descriptive without relying on what you already wrote, or to wait to introduce concepts. Rather than refer back to "This speed" you could expand the robbing concept in the first sentence then make the second sentence focus on the speed and gliding at the same time

Does that make sense?

[midnight siren]

i think so

so the “this” in my entry here is the “once it has reached this speed”/“when it is running away”?

and instead of that I should have sentence 1 say “POKENAME is a thief” and sentence 2 say “it runs fast and glides”

have I understood that right?

[jagged ledge]

Yup!

Because the structure of "This" in a subject is inherently referring back or clarifying

It helps to clarify more than refer back if that makes sense

[midnight siren]

ye, I think so

I hate the English language sometimes

it’s my first language and I still get it wrong

[clear hollow]

The same as sprites, basically

Maybe I'll choose another mon as my dexdoku entry but will still submit this cuz having alts is never bad

I'll see how it goes when I'm less eepy

[jagged ledge]

It's very frustrating sometimes lol

[jagged ledge]

Sounds like a plan to me!

[midnight siren]

POKENAME is a notorious egg thief. As it runs with a top speed of 50 MPH, it will jump into the air and glide for short periods of time.

tried to restructure it, but now i feel like the first sentence is too short?

[hollow nimbus]

I would say at a top speed rather than with a top speed

Also, you should try to write dex entries in the present tense rather than the future tense

[hollow nimbus]

If it gets your point across, then it's fine

We have a minimum threshold so entries are guaranteed to be long enough

[midnight siren]

POKENAME is a notorious egg thief. When it runs at its top speed of 50 MPH, it will jump into the air and glide for short periods of time.

does that work better tense wise?

[hollow nimbus]

The tense problem seems about the same
it runs is present tense, but it will jump is future tense

[midnight siren]

ahh, missed that

[hollow nimbus]

(Also, I hope I am not interrupting any other Unown. I just thought I'd poke in and offer some advice to whoever is currently writing before I depart to sprite.)

[midnight siren]

POKENAME is a notorious egg thief. When it runs at its top speed of 50 MPH, it jumps into the air and glides for short periods of time.

awesome, now i just need to submit my dexdoku entries

submitted

[timid sky]

@jagged ledge dexdoku Ninjask X grass version 3:

POKENAME is even more difficult to spot than other species of Ninjask due to the plants on its body helping it to blend in with other greenery. It grows leaves around its head to muffle its normally loud cries, making it difficult to hear as well.

[jagged ledge]

It overall looks good, but the very last part separated by the commas still doesn't read quite right to me. It just feels a little redundant.

[timid sky]

So should I just get rid of the comma, or should I replace it with something?

[jagged ledge]

I think you could functionally remove the "making it difficult to hear as well".

It's like I have a few ideas or recommendations for replacements or streamlining but I don't want to fully rewrite it for you instead of helping you out.

[timid sky]

Why is it that every entry that doesn't fit the "meeting the criteria of both dexdoku and spritedoku" thing has been a pain in the butt

[hollow nimbus]

Just grammar-wise, you should change then to than so it's spelled correctly

[timid sky]

Here, we'll leave it like this:

POKENAME is even more difficult to spot than other species of Ninjask due to the plants on its body helping it to blend in with other greenery. It grows leaves around its head to muffle its normally loud cries.

I blame Tropius, Rowlet and Dartrix for not being in the game

[jagged ledge]

Sounds like a plan. Apologies for the inconvenience, thank you for your cooperation

[timid sky]

Is this proper English or am I just stupid

[midnight siren]

its not a great entry, but i think its proper english

[timid sky]

I didn't think "when battle is joined" was a proper phrase

[midnight siren]

oh yeah, good point

i mean i think it technically does work, but it reads poorly and feels bad

[jagged ledge]

Just goes to show that we can't always trust GameFreak as reference

[timid sky]

@jagged ledge Dexdoku Pokeradar X grass:

POKENAME spends all night flying around the region then goes underground when daylight comes. If you try to pull it out of the ground, POKENAME will rapidly increase its body temperature, and you'll be burned.

[midnight siren]

gamefreak are the worst to follow, they break every sudo-rule they have, be it in dex entries or sprites

[hollow nimbus]

Battle is both a countable and an uncountable noun, so this isn't technically incorrect. However, when battle is joined sounds wrong because it's written in the passive voice.

There is a grammatical error in that entry, but it's not what people seem drawn to. You cannot begin a sentence with a preposition such as but.

[hollow nimbus]

The then you have in that sentence is introducing a subordinating clause, so that comma shouldn't be there. However, you do need a comma after temperature in POKENAME will rapidly increase its body temperature and you'll be burned because it is in a complex-compound sentence, not a complex sentence.

[jagged ledge]

I tend to prefer not to use "you" to describe dex entries as it feels more conversation or presentation than encyclopedia, but I'm not sure if that's a hard rule.

Changing it to say "If someone tries (etc) temperature, burning them on contact" might help.

[clear hollow]

My replacement to the repeated fusion entry

It lives in impassable swamp thickets where competition for its favorite food, the sour wild berries, is minimal. The bushes that grow on its back produce very sweet and delicious fruits, but are also adorned with highly poisonous thorns.
Nidorino + Grass, 317.33.png

[ivory pewter]

POKENAME requires very little moisture to live, and it gets most of its nutrients from sand. Take extra care when approaching it, as the spikes covering its body are filled with poison.
```.

POKENAME attempts to blend into its surroundings by changing the color of the sheet it carries. Unfortunately for it, it is still quite easy to spot as it cannot change the zigzag pattern.
```.

Much of its time is spent searching for mineral deposits in caves. Once it finds a large one, it absorbs as many nutrients as it can. These sustain it while it waits to evolve.
```.

POKENAME's claws cause slight distortions in space and sound like TV static when used. Any attempts to fix this cause it to make erratic movements.
```.

[ivory pewter]

The coarse sand making up its wings can be used to polish rocks. It is too heavy to truly fly, and mainly uses its wings to keep from crashing into the ground when it takes to the sky.

[clear hollow]

What I was thinking about, have you Unown guys ever thought of creating threads under the dex submissions in this channel? that would keep things much more organized I think

from what I've seen so far, the feedback can get very crowded here

[regal cedar]

The raw bulk of Pokémon is sort of a thing.

[timid sky]

Official dex entries strike again

[timid sky]

POKENAME spends all night flying around the region then goes underground when daylight comes. If someone tries to pull it out of the ground, POKENAME will rapidly increase its body temperature, which gives the offender severe burns.

[hexed fog]

Ultra SunMoon have notoriously out of tone entries

Like alolan ninetales

Jfc

[timid sky]

lol

[hexed fog]

While I love it.... jfc

[clear hollow]

I love gen 7 entries with all my heart

It's either something incredibly violent or shit like that

[craggy beacon]

me

[calm knoll]

<@&1210701164426039366>
here a dex entry for the #450.6

POKENAME, a Fire-Prism Pokémon, is overtaken by the Prism's power, fusing fire and psychic energy into devastating attacks. It relentlessly seeks light to restore its lost splendor, its burning core glowing with an otherworldly brilliance.

tell me if there anything i should change ^^

[regal cedar]

Hmm.

"a Fire-Prism Pokémon, is overtaken by the Prism's power, " Just doesn't seem appropriate. They don't bring up the categroy name, and the category name isn't even that.
None of Necrozma's entries talk about a prism overtaking them, just that Necrozma itself has attatched/latched on or subjugated/dominated them.

[calm knoll]

ok

[calm knoll]

POKENAME, a Fire-Prism Pokémon, has been dominated by the Prism Pokémon, fusing fire and psychic energy into devastating attacks. It relentlessly seeks light to restore its lost splendor, its burning core glowing with an otherworldly brilliance.

is it better like that ?

[regal cedar]

Remove the "a Fire-Prism Pokémon" at least.

I'd personally just say Necrozma than "the Prism Pokémon" because, again, categories aren't really ever brought up in the entries.

[calm knoll]

Ok

POKENAME, has been dominated by the Prism Pokémon, fusing fire and psychic energy into devastating attacks. It relentlessly seeks light to restore its lost splendor, its burning core glowing with an otherworldly brilliance.

[calm knoll]

Here ^^

[regal cedar]

Just say "POKENAME has been dominated by Necrozma. It fuses fire and psychic [...]"

[calm knoll]

Oh sorry 😓

POKENAME, has been dominated by the necrozma, fuses fire and psychic energy into devastating attacks. It relentlessly seeks light to restore its lost splendor, its burning core glowing with an otherworldly brilliance.

[calm knoll]

Fix it and sorry again I have issue with learning and other 😓

[regal cedar]

No problem. Say "Necrozma", not "the necrozma".

I would suggest taking a look at some Pokémon's official entries to help you get an idea on their format! Thanks for submitting an entry. Don't forget to send it in via the form in the pins!

[calm knoll]

Ok and thx ^^

POKENAME, has been dominated by necrozma, fuses fire and psychic energy into devastating attacks. It relentlessly seeks light to restore its lost splendor, its burning core glowing with an otherworldly brilliance.

[timid sky]

You clearly didn't see the horribly worded official entry I posted here yesterday

[small nest]

We've occasionally discussed using a forum like Spritework (didn't seem right for dex entries), but threads would be pretty helpful. We'd just need to get that permission added to the Unown role.

[ivory pewter]

Any notes for this & the entries following it? Wanna make sure they're all good before submitting

[small nest]

Will review in a few minutes

[small nest]

• Remember to keep entries either entirely singular (it) or entirely plural (they). Either is OK but consistency is important. I would also add a comma like so:
  POKENAME requires very little moisture to live, and it gets most of its nutrients from sand. Take extra care when approaching it, as the spikes covering its body are filled with poison.

[small nest]

Love the concept! I would reword the first sentence to help it flow better:
POKENAME attempts to blend in with its surroundings by changing the color of the sheet that it carries.

[small nest]

I would change either "tunnelling" or "caves:" spelunking through caves or tunnelling through the earth. The second sentence is a bit run-on, as well - I would shorten it or break it up:
as many nutrients as it can. These sustain it while it waits to evolve.

Other ones look good, no notes!

[small nest]

Looks like we'd run into trouble with the server's thread limit, unfortunately. It does get pretty crowded in here.

[ivory pewter]

Ended up tweaking the first sentence a but differently, but took ue suggestion for the 2nd. Thanks for all the notes

[hollow nimbus]

We have thought about it
Mostly about how impossible it would be
The server has a limit on how many threads can be open at a time across the entire server. Dex entry threads would cut into the available spots for Spritework, various role applications, spriting teams, bug/sprite reports, and suggestion threads.

This server sort of runs on threads, which is why the sp managers don't like it when you change how long a thread can be inactive before closing

[dull folio]

POKENAME naturally grow prism-like crystals on it’s body that are charged with psychic power. These crystals can be weaponised and manipulated with a mere thought.

Something feels wrong with it and I can’t think of why can anyone find any improvements I just don’t like it for some reason

[clear hollow]

No no, I'm talking about threads, not forums

Spritework uses forums, threads is what the suggestions channels use

I honestly don't remember if there's a thread limit, it was a really long time since we used them in spritework, but I think there isn't, given that both suggestions channels use them still without deleting

[clear hollow]

...tbh idk why we still use the term "thread" when referring to spritework, habits die hard ig they're forums

[small nest]

I thought this too, but apparently they share a limit with forum posts

[clear hollow]

Do they?? Huh, I thought there's, like, thousands threads across both game-suggs and discord-suggs

But at the same time, it's not like I operate any of these to know this for sure Just my guess

[boreal canyon]

old habit of the old #1050404143807873157 where it was a single channel

[boreal canyon]

there can be a lot of threads, but not a lot of open threads, i think that's the difference

[clear hollow]

I remember something about that because I remember one of our old duties as piss managers being closing the old threads but not deleting them

[timid sky]

@jagged ledge dexdoku Nidorino X normal:

POKENAME expects to be treated like royalty by anyone who crosses its path. If it does not receive said treatment, POKENAME will lash out by stabbing them with its horn and scratching them with its claws, both of which contain poison.

[regal cedar]

Normal? Who's this?

[timid sky]

Nidorino/Persian

[rich goblet]

May I offer a stylistic/opinion oriented suggestion?

[timid sky]

sure

[rich goblet]

If it does not receive said treatment, POKENAME shoves aside the riff-raff, and especially stubborn Pokémon get a sharp blow from a poisonous horn or claw.

^^^

2nd sentence

@timid sky Oh btw very creative concept! 😄

[hollow nimbus]

The second clause in that sentence is a different tense than the clause preceding that.

[rich goblet]

[hollow nimbus]

will shove is future tense, and get is present tense

[rich goblet]

I promise I'm not this bad, I've been sneezing all morning

I just like to add a bit of zest to entries

What I meant to say is THANK YOU REALTHREE ❤️

[ancient orbit]

would it be okay if I just kind of ramble a bit while I write/figure out a dex entry/lore?

my brain tends to work better if it thinks I'm actually talking to someone (even if no one's actually responding)

[rich goblet]

I think that's alright, kind of the purpose of the channel I think?

[small nest]

Always fun to have insight into our authors' creative processes

[ancient orbit]

kyogre/gardevoir. my primal sprite

let's see here what works

could play into the black hole "protect trainer" thing

alright yeah

trainer gets attacked by whatever while having the blue orb, gardevoir desperately draws out its power to use to black whatever the fuck away, turns into that thing

personally I'd like more justification

though I don't think I'd find or be able to come up with anything

okay so how to write a dex entry with that in minds

would probably be best to go a bit overboard and work my way back

250 is my limit, alright

oh, I could make it the trainer the ancient protector of the orb, which doubly works given there's psychic types (medichans) around that mountain

[ancient orbit]

oh, how does one do this effect with the black border?

oh I could also have the red orb variation for Gallade if I whenever I get around get arond to doing him.

v0.1, I'm not worry about a character limit, purely trying to get shit on paper:

"A century ago in Hoenn fanatics tried to steal the blue orb from atop Mt pyre, the protector and their team fell in battle, leaving only their Gardevoir standing. in desperation they took to the blue orb and took in kygore's primal strength, leading to a flooding victory"

heh, only 21 characters over, assuming spaces count

and if not, then I'm fine

albeit that still definitely needs rewording

v1.0. Got better wording and less characters, but still quite rough:

Legend has it that a Gardevoir drew upon the blue orb in desperation after their trainer fell in battle as a last ditch effort to survive, turning it into a powerful Pokemon. POKENAME's been looking for a deserving trainer ever sense

[ancient orbit]

okay so this is offically in a spot where I'd like feedback

[rich goblet]

Lots going on here, but let me help with the stuff that will get you dinged for content/FAQ

First, what sprite is this? Is it in one of the calcs already?

?tag calcs

[upper loom]

https://infinitefusiondex.com/: Good for looking at stats, locations, movesets, and type matchups, as well as looking at the inverse fusions side-by-side.

https://www.fusiondex.org/: Good for looking at sprites and fusion names. Also includes stats, but no comparisons.

[ancient orbit]

yes, hold on

[ancient orbit]

#sprite-gallery message

(it's in the things, I checked, this is just the easiest link)

so from that thing you deleted I assume one bit of criticism is that the first sentence is wordy

which I can see

[rich goblet]

It is said that it is a Gardevoir that resonated with a blue orb to protect its trainer from harm.

This is as far I can go with syntax and grammar.

Unfortunately, you might get dinged from the FAQ section about referring to all of a species as opposed to one of a species.

EDIT: More grammar fixes

[ancient orbit]

damn, that is an infinitely better wording of that

[rich goblet]

I'm going to <@&1210701164426039366> to see what they think

[ancient orbit]

much appreciated

[hollow nimbus]

My first concern with this is that it's not clear that the Gardevoir from the legend is the origin of the species

If you can make it clear that every POKENAME came from that one Gardevoir, then the entry would be about the species.

However, if the focus stays on that one Pokémon, then the entry becomes about the legend instead of a description of the species.

[jagged ledge]

But wouldn't that be breaking the rule of describing how the fusion is made in the wild?

[hollow nimbus]

Not if it's presented as only a myth or legend

[small nest]

Perhaps Gardevoir's determination and desperation summoned Kyogre? That way it's explicitly a fusion instead of just Gardevoir + orb.

[jagged ledge]

Alright sorry I just got here and missed that part

[small nest]

I think the framing is fine, it says they fused but doesn't give specific details

[rich goblet]

Take your time with this Emperor, it's a lot to digest

[hollow nimbus]

Origin stories are the trickiest kind of entry to write because they don't give so much information about the current state of the species.

[rich goblet]

Mm, when it comes to legendries, perhaps ability matters more.

What can it do versus what did it do.

[ancient orbit]

that might be a better focus. backstories are usually what I end up doing, TTRPGs and all (not to mention it's just generally the best place to start with characters), so that's where my mind defaults usually

that said, now the issue is the fact that the autogen dex entry is actually pretty good in that regard

okay hold on though, how do PKMN fuse in the wild?

like if we're gonna go with "must be in universe", how does that work exactly? dna splicers just so stupidly massed produced that they're just shat out literally everywhere to the point even 2 legends end up interacting with them?

[jagged ledge]

Well that's just it: We don't know. It's supposed to be a mystery to some degree because otherwise we have to specify one category of origin or lore for over 250,000 Pokémon.

[ancient orbit]

then I feel like my idea still works

[ebon warren]

This is very clearly stated in the FAQs that while fusion exists naturally, its origins and methods are unknown. Any reference to it must be supposition or rumor, not fact.

[ancient orbit]

TBF with it being 'legend' that technically works

cop out, what's a cop out?

I'll make v2 when I get more free time to actually think

[hexed fog]

@mint gyro noticing alot of FAQ 7 issues

please be sure to have every entry be self-reliant. They should not be referring to other pokedex entries as heavily, canon or noncanon

gotta say I am noticing youre very big on saying "X pokemon's blank and y pokemon's blank"

it isnt TECHNICALLY wrong but it tends to make your entries needlessly wordy. Think of a fusion as if it's its own pokemon. It doesn't have Charmander's flames and Squirtle's shell, it has a shell and flames.

it will benefit you a lot down the line

[jagged ledge]

He's talking to a different author

[ancient orbit]

my apologizes then

[jagged ledge]

It's alright

[hexed fog]

[ancient orbit]

I thought you were talking to me

[hollow nimbus]

I assume Emperor thought you were talking to them instead of HeckAndBack

[ancient orbit]

I thought heck was someone else you wanted to pull in to also throw in their 2 cents

[hexed fog]

Uh nope just doing my job and helping then out lol

[ancient orbit]

would you guys say it's fair to try to justify legendary fusions, specifically full legends? like wild PKMN are one thing, but legends are either actively sealed away, rarely show their faces, or never show their faces unless summoned (i.e, the creation trio)

I'd imagine its a "fair, but don't get wrapped up too much into it"

[hollow nimbus]

What do you mean by 'justify legends'?

They are already just

[ancient orbit]

you are wildly misunderstanding what I'm asking

[hollow nimbus]

No, that was a joke
Though I do not know exactly what you are asking

[ancient orbit]

ah

like with this, my thought process was "why would a gardevoir even fuse with a kyogre?" (outside of the events in game), given that.... it's a full legendary.... they don't exactly appear often, and I used the dex entry trying to answer that question.

i'm asking if that's a fair line of logic to use in your guy's opinion

[hollow nimbus]

So, by justify, you mean give a reason for the fusion species to exist?

[ancient orbit]

in a sense

or at least exist prior to the events of the game

although that did just give me an idea

[hollow nimbus]

It's a fair idea, you just have to be really careful about it. As I've said before, I don't like to encourage a lot of origin-story entries because they often don't describe the current state of the fusion.
Also keep in mind that, while legendary and mythical pokemon are rare, there are thousands of fusions in PIF that use one of those kinds of Pokémon. It's okay if some of them are more mundane while still being rare.

Just make sure that the entry is about the POKENAME species instead of being about a legend related to a certain POKENAME.

The legend can be mentioned, but it's not a good focus for the bulk of your writing.

[ancient orbit]

figured. Thanks for your 2 cents

[small nest]

I tend to take the path of least resistance by just describing a fusion's behavior instead of their past. Natural fusion is a pretty mysterious process, though, so it's perfectly fine to skip the question of "why" altogether. Who knows how this Rayquaza fused with a Rattata? Well, the fact that it's eating all of a village's grain stores and is too powerful to be stopped is probably more urgent.

[ancient orbit]

NGL reading that I instantly got the idea that it was some starving rattata wishing upon the stars after beating kicked out of some house or something that came back with a mighty vengeance

there's a really shitty "suffering from success" joke to be made with ambition (or ego) or something here, I just can't think of it ATM

"hey kid, you wanna use this fusion? well here's the 500,000 chapter series on its lore/backstory. Da fuck you mean you're not interested?"

[small nest]

Which version do you guys prefer for this Venomoth/Mankey? https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1352479167383605351

It eagerly attacks passersby, scattering toxic dust with each blow. However, since POKENAME energetically beats its wings to scatter more of the dust, its small body is often carried up and away from its target.

It flies into a rage when passersby approach, attacking unprovoked. However, since POKENAME energetically beats its wings to scatter poisonous dust, its small body is often carried up and away from its target.

[ivory pewter]

POKENAME is entirely blind, and vibrates its antennae at high speeds to perceive its surroundings. Due to its extreme sensitivity to sunlight, it only goes out in the open during the nighttime.

[ivory pewter]

It uses its cotton to keep people it likes comfortable. When it engages in combat it can imbue some of its cotton with venom before throwing it at foes.
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[polar bobcat]

Alr this is kind of scuffed, but ngl I just want this to be badass. Ive got more than one idea for the entry here and I’d love some honest criticism.

“To preserve the poison on their claws, a POKENAME will never wash them. This makes it easy to tell young and old POKENAMEs apart, as the latter’s claws will be stained by the blood of their opponents.”

Note: Scoliape isn’t a poison type lol, its bug fighting, and i think this might be too badass but doesnt hurt to put it out there

My other proposal

“POKENAMEs live only to battle, always training for their next fight. When two POKENAMEs meet, they are said to decimate entire mountains, yet none have bared witness.”

[winged jasper]

I wanted to make a take that combines both ideas, while preserving the badassery of the first without being quite as edgy:

"POKENAMEs live only to battle, always training for their next fight. This makes it easy to tell young and old POKENAMEs apart, as the latter’s claws will be marked by the scars of their countless past battles."

[rich goblet]

I had this stupid idea

Of getting a random word generator

And hammering a couple dex entries using it

[boreal canyon]

it gives me an idea, immagine a mini event where you have a bunch of words on a grid kinda like a bingo, and each slot is a random word you have to use in a dex

[rich goblet]

I’d do it. Maybe make the bingo sheet thematic too

[polar bobcat]

my goat this awesome ty
do i submit it under your name l

[winged jasper]

Can you not do both our names? I mostly just workshopped your own ideas lolz.

[polar bobcat]

oh shit is that an option
im def doing that then

tysm man

[rich goblet]

For dex entries since it’s a limited amount of space we prefer one per

At least with sprites it’s below the sprite so that isn’t capped

[polar bobcat]

aw shit i already submitted it

im sorry

good to know for next time tho

[small nest]

Very bold sprite artist here, single pixel SFX is hard to make look good. I don't think any Gen 5 bases use them at all

[polar bobcat]

its wild man its seamless it looks phenomenal

[hexed fog]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ntr8RvkAPBzw9R1E82dmzgyX8-eGymwojIwebrLCSOc/edit?gid=0#gid=0

3/21 DictionDex is UP!

[versed barn]

is this where you can post custom dex entries?

[regal cedar]

You submit them through the google forms found in the pins!

[versed barn]

ah okay thanks

[ivory pewter]

It hangs from the ceilings in caves, letting a string down that looks like an Escape Rope. If a traveler grabs one of their strings by accident, POKENAME will pull them up and drain their vitality.

POKENAME makes for an incredibly well behaved house pet. It is recommended to purchase a Poké Toy to indulge its playful nature.
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It takes people's dreams and stores them as Dream Mail in its tail. When it gets hungry it will open an envelope and consume the dream inside.

was gonna do bulbasaur geodude for cabbage but it's already done

[hexed fog]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1352732466766545190

Thanks @rich goblet for doing the DictionDex!

[rich goblet]

When grocery shopping, many mistake Beetroot extract for POKENAME extract, leading to kitchen nightmares. POKENAME extract is a sweet powder that goes atop desserts, while Beetroot extract is a bitter powder that doubles as a nutritional supplement.

https://if.daena.me/15.163

Sometimes a good pun sometimes a shit pun

You tell me m'kay

[rich goblet]

@hexed fog HELP! I don't know how to use Behoove in third person 😭

It carries around its young in its mouth, as it prevents its young from getting dirty. It would behoove itself to let go on occasion to allow the child to explore on its own, yet this seldom occurs. https://if.daena.me/115.53

[regal cedar]

Judging from a quick check, that seems like that behoove is fine

[hexed fog]

Yup!

[hollow nimbus]

You should be able to do with behoove whatever you can do with befit

[rich goblet]

It delivers Dream Mail when a family is hypnotized in a safe and comfortable space. For those who lose access to the ability to speak and write, this is one of the few ways family members can remain connected to an elderly loved one. https://if.daena.me/97.179

<@&1210701164426039366> for this particular one, I'm not sure if it steers too close to 'graphic' but it is certainly veering close to territory pokemon does not do

Y/N -- Is the entry okay? Do I need to hone in more on the Pokemon?

[hexed fog]

I don't think it's graphic but like I've said before... I'm very very lenient

[regal cedar]

That's fine.

[rich goblet]

You can see where it goes close to it right? Like, acknowledging dementia and or bodily injury w/o the focus on that part?

[hexed fog]

yes

[rich goblet]

Okay whew

[regal cedar]

https://www.fusiondex.org/197.135/ Hi everyone! For the next warmup, please write an entry involving this Pokémon, comprised of two Eeveeloutions.

[rich goblet]

Its rings on its body charge electricity during the night according to the lunar cycle. It is said that during the full moon, its body stores enough electricity to restart and stabilize its trainer's heart, especially if they are hurt.

[ebon warren]

This Pokémon's rings glow brighter as it stores more energy; this glow is usually only visible in darkness. The fuzzy hair around POKENAME's neck generates static electricity that can accumulate over time. The ruff also exudes electrical charges.

[regal cedar]

I'm actually not finding much for the definition for ruff, aside from that it usually means the area around the neck!

[regal cedar]

I'm curious on why you decided to talk about it's ability to restart their heart. It's not wrong, but I can say I wasn't expecting it!

[hexed fog]

We need a pokemon that chills near rice fields, giving off a sweet nectar. Rice from these fields are regularly used in jelly filled doughnuts.