dex-entries-discussion

[steady sedge]

can you stop hating?

[boreal prairie]

are you talking to me?

[hexed fog]

?

you know what? fukkit we will keep it

did post in the wrong chat @steady sedge ?

I'm pretty sure that's someone in gf not knowing wtf they are saying tbf

the regigigas thing is fine, it's a legendary

I can dig it

[narrow cosmos]

Feel free! It still carried the tone of what i was going for. Just thought planet-cracking was fun imagery. I don't mind the changes!

Oh didn't read the rest of the convo. Moot point then. XD

[hexed fog]

LOL ok

it's not a big deal anyway. it's Poketown

[narrow cosmos]

Hilarious exaggeration is the name of the game after all

[boreal prairie]

Those are prhbtn's only messages on the server. how weird.

[boreal canyon]

What can i do to have a dex that evokes the beast of gévaudan ? i asked because it was my main inspiration for this

[hexed fog]

gdi term I have google wtf that is x.x

[boreal canyon]

gdi ?

'cause i suppose you don't mean this x)

[hexed fog]

LMAO

Legends speak of POKENAME stalking the countryside, its crimson mane blazing in the moonlight. It preys upon the unwary, leaving only claw marks and whispers of a shadowy beast haunting the land.

hows this

[boreal canyon]

like it, thx

[boreal canyon]

so, what's the meaning of gdi ?

[hexed fog]

god damn it

listen. I'm old. back in AIM days this is the best we had

ROTFL was a real thing we said.

[boreal canyon]

... AIM ?

i know rotfl

[hexed fog]

Aol Instant Messenger lol

yknow you're just making me feel ancient now

[boreal canyon]

(remember : english isn't my first language, so sometimes i don't get acronyms)

[hexed fog]

OH hahahahaha

[boreal canyon]

i'm only 22

[boreal canyon]

i'm submitting this, unless you already submitted it

[hexed fog]

go ahead!

[boreal canyon]

i just clicked on send

[hexed fog]

182.132.png POKENAME is the miracle of botanists: every spore it secretes, after entering in contact with a plant, becomes a new seed of said plant, but with growth rates sometimes 10x bigger.

Could you advise what you mean by this? this wouldnt be a miracle, suddenly increasing plant roots would destroy any plants around it :/ @snow scroll

[reef pine]

wanted to make a funny one for https://www.fusiondex.org/45.207/ since it's grass/flying type but has no wings:

It flies using the large flower that grows on its head. By sucking in air the petals puff up like balloons and cause it to float away.

[hexed fog]

52.389.png POKENAME will use the sharp glare of its coin and tail to attract unsuspecting bird Pokémon like Murkrow.

Can you go into more detail on this? What it is attracting them for? @boreal trellis

[boreal trellis]

To eat them 😅 but I wasn't sure how intense we were going with the dex entries

[reef pine]

I think there are official pokedex entries that directly reference predator/prey relationships

[hexed fog]

126.9.png POKENAME's cannons fire jets of water and lava, with the proportions varying as needed. Research shows the yellow flame pattern on its belly reflects the lava concentration.

can you advise what you meant by its stomach reflecting the lava concentration? @tacit sage

[hexed fog]

lol np, how is this

POKENAME uses the sharp glare of its coin and tail to lure unsuspecting bird Pokémon like Murkrow. Once they approach, it pounces and drags them back to its den as prey.

[reef pine]

actually had to dig a bit to find one that spoke of a specific pokemon as prey. many just say "prey" or "insect prey" etc. Gumshoos entry in Pokemon Moon: "It adores having Rattata and Raticate for dinner, but as it’s diurnal, it never encounters them. This Pokémon boasts incredible patience." https://pokemondb.net/pokedex/gumshoos#dex-flavor

[hexed fog]

we have plenty of predator/prey relationships in the accepted tab 🙂

[boreal trellis]

Yeah sounds great

[hexed fog]

Ok everyone, if you had an entry in 2024 you should have been checked at this point

if you see one I didn't do let me know. I think I got everyone

[boreal canyon]

As long as the forest or its residents aren't threatened POKENAME will be friendly. POKENAME will use its ability to control plants and strong body to stop any potential threat to its forest.

Can someone do a better version please?

[terse pawn]

"pokename uses the gems on its head to lift heavy objects and attack with them, it oftens uses his head to smash rocks, breaking the gems, they will regrow after a while"

[boreal canyon]

-# I don't think that it has a dex, if it already has one then sorry

[terse pawn]

its not his

[boreal canyon]

Why not having a dot instead of a comma after "attack with them"?

[terse pawn]

ooh, yea, but the rest is okay i think

instead of regrow, grow again

[chilly horizon]

POKENAME will remain peaceful towards those that don't threaten its forest. Should someone be foolish enough to endanger its territory, this Pokémon will utilize its ability to control plants to stop the threat.

is what id have done

[craggy beacon]

"pokename uses the gems on its head to lift heavy objects and attack with them, it oftens uses his head to smash rocks, breaking the gems, they will regrow after a while"

i'd write this as:
POKENAME uses the gems on its head to lift heavy objects and attack with them. It often uses its head to smash rocks, breaking the gems. After a while, the gems will regrow.

iffy on the last part (of mine) due to it being a bit janky imo but

also the highlighted its is because you used a gendered pronoun

[terse pawn]

yeah i'm spanish and here we use he for general use so i often get confused

[craggy beacon]

thats understandable

an easy catch anyway

[boreal canyon]

Idk why but the "should" part feels a bit "heavy", maybe a "if someone is foolish" would be better?

[craggy beacon]

threatened POKENAME
probably need a comma here

[chilly horizon]

either is fine, tbh

comes down to preference :3

[craggy beacon]

i actually do like the "should someone"

seems a bit umm

folklore-y or eerie

[chilly horizon]

that was the idea behind it, but term's idea works as well, since it gives you a little bit more of that "documentary vibe"

[craggy beacon]

yeah just depends on the tone you want

[boreal canyon]

POKENAME will remain peaceful towards those that don't threaten its forest. Should an intruder be foolish enough to endanger its territory, this Pokémon will utilize its ability to control plants to fence them.

Idk, I did some slight adjustments while keeping the should

[chilly horizon]

mhhh i know what you are trying to say, but i dunno if fence might be the right word? IF you use it, i'd say fence them off, but it still feels weird?
anyone elses opinion o nthat?

[boreal canyon]

And I also replaced "someone" with "intruder" so it's not limited to human only

[chilly horizon]

true, someone would have restricted it to humans only

[fair thicket]

"foil them" instead of fence?

[craggy beacon]

KILL them/j

[chilly horizon]

KILL them /srs

[craggy beacon]

also yeah fencing gives a more silly image rather than a foreboding one

[chilly horizon]

THEIR MARROW SHALL BE FERTILIZER FOR A BED OF FLOWERS

[craggy beacon]

LMAO

[boreal canyon]

What about "imprison them" ?

[chilly horizon]

like im about 70% sure that "fence" was a french to english translation mishap cause it meant something else in french

[reef pine]

"Should an intruder be foolish enough to endanger its territory, this Pokémon will animate every plant to its defense." hmm

[boreal canyon]

It's a mix of that and me looking synonym for stop

[reef pine]

imprison sounds good

[chilly horizon]

yeah, imprison is a very good word, easily A tier at least in a word ranking

[boreal canyon]

Or "will turn them into fertilizer"

So :

POKENAME will remain peaceful towards those that don't threaten its forest. Should an intruder be foolish enough to endanger its territory, this Pokémon will animate every plants to imprison them.

Something like that?

[chilly horizon]

me like :3

[boreal canyon]

If someone can submit it, it'll be perfect, I'm on phone so it's not really practical and I'm going to bed.

Thanks a lot and goodnight, day or whatever depending on your timezone !

[chilly horizon]

well it feels wrong stealing your idea lol

[reef pine]

have a good night!

[chilly horizon]

plus idk for what mon that is, soooo

[reef pine]

yea you can submit it later on

[snow scroll]

Growth rates, not roots, as in the speed of growth

[hexed fog]

What I am trying to say if something grew 10x bigger the plant would damage everything around it with its roots. Do you by chance mean 10x higher or faster?

[snow scroll]

Oh, I understood now. Faster, but the same size

Maybe healthier too?

[fair thicket]

If I change this:

It sings auguries of disasters yet to come. Those who fail to heed its warnings meet their fate at the ends of its fists.

to this:

It brings auguries of disasters yet to come. Those who fail to heed its warnings meet their fate at the ends of its fists.

would it work?

i.e., "brings" instead of "sings"?
https://www.fusiondex.org/sprite/pif/310.452a/

[reef pine]

I think "brings" works too yeah

[hexed fog]

As long as it isn't talking

[reef pine]

"POKENAME is a lifeline for endangered flora. With its ability to create a healthy seed of any plant its spores touch, it is treasured by botanists worldwide." Something like this LucasDeSouza?

[fair thicket]

one thing i did notice for 55.439d vs 55.439e is that i elided the word "its" from one of the entries. Could you just go in and make that tweak so they're the same?
Both are supposed to read:

POKENAME considers itself protector of its mangroves. It lurks among the submerged roots, dangling its gems as bait for anyone greedy enough to pluck one.

[vast blaze]

There doesn't seem to be much discussion about dex entries on Minior here.

I've had a couple entries with Minior bodies rejected/put on hold due to violations of FAQ 7 (inter-referential entries) and FAQ 10 (subspecies). At least one of these (7) seems to have been marked because of some light connection between the two entries, one for Golurk/Minior, and one for Golurk/Minior-Core.

I'm not here to bemoan the choice, but I would love for there to be more Minior entries (I'm particularly interested in Minior bodies), and so I'm seeking advice on how to best handle two dex entries for "the same" Pokemon in different forms. It is maybe worth noticing that some mainline Minior-Core entries do reference "the shell" - maybe the best strategy is to be delicate with describing the existence of the other form? Then again, unlike mainline games, Minior doesn't always need to have Shields Down, and so one could imagine a player only ending up with one of the two dex entries.

I could also imagine paired entries sharing a small amount of text, e.g. a first line, and then diverging on the second line to guarantee that a reader will have sufficient "context." Are Necrozma and Ultra-Necrozma handled in any particular way?

[fair thicket]

Well, Ultra Necrozma is not supposed to be available outside of battle. 🤔 So I figured it wouldn't have entries.
Is the same true for Minior? Does it show Core form and dex entry if you have it at <half health for whatever reason outside of battle too?

[vast blaze]

That's a good question - maybe I should have done my research, but I haven't gotten a chance to actually play the new version. I had thought that both of them would be available outside of battle due to ability muckery.

[fair thicket]

(it doesn't help that minior itself is bugged and not easily accessible in-game right now )

[fair thicket]

tbf, I didn't do my research with N and U-N right now. i just went off a hunch

[vast blaze]

Well, there's plenty of time to work out the best strategy then!

[fair thicket]

uh, i see

🤔 hmm... so it at least looks like N and U-N are given different dex entries. It might be worth looking into how they're actually handled in-game, since that might mean a lot of neat dex entries end up completely inaccessible

[hexed fog]

POKENAME is hailed as a miracle by botanists. Its spores, when contacting plants, transform into seeds that grow up to ten times faster and healthier than normal.

how about this?

[fair thicket]

(the N vs U-N and minior vs Core dex entry discussion also reminds me I was considering making a suggestion that dex entries be available if a pokemon is merely seen as well as caught. It is a lot easier to see sprites of fusions you don't have, but much less easy to see the dex entries of those.
🤷 different from how the base games do it, but would bring more attention to them)

(or if there were somehow a way to view the dex entries of opponents while in battle. but that also strays very much from mainline pokemon design)

[boreal prairie]

With the psychic gem on its head, POKENAME lifts heavy objects to attack. It carelessly smashes rocks with its forehead and breaks the gem, but it regrows after a while.

you may have submitted already but here are some coherence/concision suggestions.

I do think there is potential to add some more detail here. Using psychic powers to attack with objects could be any psychic pokemon, and there isnt any explanation why it want to be smashing these rocks so much it damages its gem.

[boreal prairie]

It sucks air into the petals of the large flower that grows from its head. The petals puff up like balloons and it floats away.

some concision suggestions. It is pretty short now so you could probably add another detail if you have an idea!

[boreal prairie]

Its peaceful toward those who don't threaten the forest. Should a trespasser be foolish enough to endanger its territory, POKENAME will animate nearby plants and imprison the intruder.

concision/coherence suggestions

[vague osprey]

whatd i do

[boreal hazel]

first time posting one of my dex entries here, so roast my writing!

POKENAME, not satisfied with mere nectar, break into Beedrill nests to steal their honey instead. While POKENAME usually pull these heists off unseen, it will defend itself with shuriken-shaped scales from its wings on the rare chance it is spotted.

[sturdy void]

Oh fun

[boreal prairie]

POKENAME, not satisfied with mere nectar, [break] into Beedrill nests to steal honey. It usually [pulls off] these heists unseen, but defends itself with shuriken-shaped scales on the rare chance it is spotted.

No roasting necessary, very creative! Some small concision suggestions. I don't have an alternative, but something about "break" and "pulls off" just has me going 🤔 if there is a better word choice.

[fair thicket]

invade instead of break into?

[boreal hazel]

well my first draft was "sneak into", but that didn't really sound that good to me

[boreal hazel]

also I reused POKENAME instead of "its" at the start of the second sentence to try to avoid confusion since Beedrill was mentioned earlier

[fair thicket]

completes instead of pulls off?

[boreal hazel]

but still, this is good advice, keep it coming!

[narrow cosmos]

The crystal in its core is thought to contain the DNA of every creature that ever lived. Its skill at manipulating DNA is so vast, some theorize it could transform others into any form POKENAME wished, with just a touch.

Scientists hope to study POKENAME thoroughly, hypothesizing that with the unique DNA of both Mew and Deoxys may lead to breakthroughs on the subject of extraterrestrial life.

Second one I'm a bit unsure of, but I think it gets an idea across.

Doing fusions in pairs is interesting, really challenges you sometime to think of an interesting way to differentiate two versions of the same combo.

[boreal prairie]

Bedrill is used as an adjective-noun so it is unlikely to cause ambiguity

[boreal prairie]

Its crystal core contains the DNA of every creature that ever lived. [Some] theorize that it can transform any Pokémon it touches into any other form, using its vast DNA manipulation skill.

some tweaking. I like the idea but thought some rearranging could help. I thought having two speculations (about the core and the DNA manipulation) could add too much ambiguity.

oh, i bracketed [Some] because like always, I like to see if people can come up with specific people istead 🙂

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Scientists hypothesize that the unique DNA of both Mew and Deoxys might lead to breakthroughs on the origin of extraterrestrial life. By studying POKENAME thoroughly [...]

I thought maybe with the concision suggestions, there could be room for a more elaborate idea than just wanting to study, since, everyone in the Pokemon world seems to want to study every pokemon 😁

[boreal prairie]

I agree, I feel this way when I'm doing completely lines. Inspires me to have a theme that shifts and changes through the evolutions and swaps

[narrow cosmos]

Yeah, I had a fun time trying that out with the line of Ditto fusions involving the Bagon and Abra lines. Kinda fun when you can make something of a story across all three. 😄

I switched [Some] in the first to Geneticists, I think that seems to be a fitting descriptor.

As for the second adjustment, maybe something like "By studying POKENAME thoroughly, they hope to make great strides towards first contact with alien life." ?

[boreal prairie]

That is a cool idea!! Might want to check if thats fitting in the character count

If not, could just cut out "great strides toward" even though its a good phrase

[narrow cosmos]

I did an edit to the phrase itself to avoid repeating what basically amounts to alien life twice with both sentences.

Scientists hypothesize that the unique DNA of both Mew and Deoxys might lead to breakthroughs on the origin of extraterrestrial life. By studying POKENAME thoroughly, they hope to make great strides towards first contact with another world.

240 characters according to WordCounter, so it fits!

[nocturne shadow]

alright, I'm gonna be back on the grind

279.355.png
"Because of its lack of extremities, POKENAME relies on its tail as a substitute. After achieving victory in battle, POKENAME will slap its tail with the hand of its trainer as a celebration."

280.355.png
"To regulate heat and blood flow, POKENAME will vigorously shake its tail. Excess body heat will be transferred into flares, spewing out of the spore on its head"

281.355a.png
"During the Muromachi period of Kanto, POKENAME were teachers of martial arts to monks. If a POKENAME reaches a zen-like state while fighting, its blazing kicks will burn blue."

Any thoughts?

I kinda wanted to say Sōhei for the third entry (as those were the actual names of them), but I was worried about the "o" having an accent mark and it not working with the game. I hope I made a justifiable replacement

[boreal prairie]

POKENAME relies on its tail as a substitute for its lack of [arms]. After achieving victory in battle, POKENAME will slap its trainer's hand with its tail in celebration.

concision suggestions. also, feet are extremities too.

To regulate heat and blood flow, POKENAME vigorously shakes its tail. Excess body heat is transferred into flares that spew out [like spores from the sacs] on its head.

technically, the spores are the dust, spores don't do the spewing.

During the Muromachi period of Kanto, POKENAME taught martial arts to monks. If a POKENAME reaches a zen-like state while fighting, its blazing kicks burn blue.

small concison edits

Very creative ideas!!

[boreal prairie]

Would be good to ask an Unown what special characters are allowed

[nocturne shadow]

What's an unown?

(not the pokemon)

[nocturne shadow]

is that like a moderator?

[jagged ledge]

They oversee dex entry approvals and edits

[nocturne shadow]

Ok. Any idea where I can ask?

[boreal prairie]

Here I suppose. Wait for one to show up, @hexed fog is the only one I know by name so far

[dull dome]

teachers of martial artists to monks doesnt make sense

try smth like teachers of martial arts to monks or smth

a martial artist is someone who does a martial art

[nocturne shadow]

Small fix, just had to reword it. Thx

[reef pine]

thank you! I fiddled and added a bit;

Due to its short stature most food it covets is out of reach, but it has a trick up its sleeve. By sucking air into the large flower on its head, the petals puff up like balloons and it floats away; hopefully towards snacks.

[snow scroll]

That's perfect, I like it

[tacit sage]

You have to see it in the following sense: its shell contains water and lava, it can propel a mixture with more or less water and lava and the more lava the current mixture contains, the more important the yellow flame pattern becomes

[boreal canyon]

I like mine better

[craggy beacon]

wrong chat

#gameplay-help

[hexed fog]

Would you be able to reword your entry to include this information so that it is a bit more clear ❤️

[hexed fog]

Sup

[nocturne shadow]

For future reference, what special characters are allowed to be used

[limber urchin]

Can I just make one or do I need roles or smth

[narrow cosmos]

You can freely submit dex entries, you don't need a specific role to do so. Just use the form properly and you should be good, or post here before submitting on the form if you wanna share or get potential critique/assistance.

It is fiercely protective of its trainer, able to fling psychically-controlled fireballs should they be threatened. POKENAME has been known to compete with its trainer's team to see if other Pokémon are worthy of guarding them.

[hexed fog]

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[fair thicket]

It occurred to me my design notes on this sprite (289.478d) might work as a dex entry with some tweaking

All carbink's gems have been mined away, leaving a hollow body. This one's halo is the central gem from the forehead, forever hovering in pieces at the moment of extraction.

Which I changed to:

All POKENAME's gems have been mined away, leaving only a hollow body. The gem that crowned its head now forever hovers in pieces, frozen at the moment of extraction.

but I feel the second sentence needs work.

[fallow tiger]

What do we do if the pokemon we want to submit a dex entry for already has one? should i just move on or is there a chance a new submission can replace it?

[fair thicket]

it will randomly display either entry, i think

[fallow tiger]

ohh okay thank you!

[fair thicket]

but i think we're prioritizing entries without customs

[fallow tiger]

right of course

[craggy beacon]

i thought that was a dex entry draft for a sec... i might be tired

[chilly horizon]

the big eepy

[hexed fog]

@near latch Please be sure to read the FAQ as entries must be between 100-250 characters.

[fallow tiger]

Scientists that had the privilege of analyzing this Pokémon revealed that its mouth leads to a never ending space that appears differently for whoever and whatever falls into it, but all will hear POKENAME's mocking laugh.

im not sure if it feels right towards the end

[noble schooner]

Ampharos/Mareanie (by iaobug)
"Often found in rock beds by lighthouses since they’re drawn to its light, copying the rotation of the light at night. After a high tide, the lighthouse keeper should check around for any POKENAME. Since too many may become a hindrance for sailors."

[craggy beacon]

After a high tide, the lighthouse keeper should check around for any POKENAME. Since too many may become a hindrance for sailors.

i would either change that period to a comma or reword that last sentence to remove "since", because the last sentence is an incomplete sentence

[weak osprey]

I think it'd be better split into two sentences:
Scientists that had the privilege of analyzing this Pokémon revealed that its mouth leads to a never ending space that appears differently for whoever and whatever falls into it. All will hear POKENAME's mocking laugh.

Here's a more extensive edit. What do you think of this?
Scientists who had the privilege of analyzing this Pokémon discovered that its mouth leads to a never-ending space within. Its content are different to whoever falls in, except for one constant: POKENAME's mocking laugh.

[fallow tiger]

ohh that second one is perfect, but i already submit it on the form. if i make another submission for clarification, would that work, or is there another process for it?

[weak osprey]

I'm new here. I have no clue :v
I looked on the "Pokedex Entries" google sheets tho and there are ones that are marked "Replaced" so I'm p sure they'll just take your 2nd one.

[fossil root]

🥳

[fallow tiger]

oh alright, well thank you 🙂

[weak osprey]

Are we allowed to start entries w/ an implied subject? I know there are a few official ones like that. Here's Drowzee's Pokemon X dex entry:
Puts enemies to sleep, then eats their dreams. Occasionally gets sick from eating only bad dreams.
But most of them aren't like that, so I'm not sure what the ruling is on that.

[jagged ledge]

You can resubmit with the fixed version! Just let the Unowns know and they'll check the second one.

[fallow tiger]

how do i let them know? do i @ one, or?

[noble schooner]

i'm not sure if i'm the right person to ask, sorry

[jagged ledge]

Usually if one is going through edits, you can ping them to leave a note for them, or they'll go to you when looking to approve the entry for which one you want to keep.

[jagged ledge]

I believe technically it depends on the sentence structure, but I would recommend having at least an indirect subject within the first sentence, like how Merc's has "They're drawn to its light"

[fallow tiger]

perfect, thank you!

[jagged ledge]

No problem!

[weak osprey]

Okay cool thanks!

[jagged ledge]

Happy to help!

I slowed down significantly after completing the Bulbasaur/Kanto entries, but I'm still here picking away at some wild encounters and I slowly but surely started on my randomized playthrough's entries lol

[weak osprey]

If that's the case then I'd only suggest Sino's suggestion and that you should add are to the front so that the first sentence has a predicate at least.

oh, and you say drawn to its light when you mention multiple lighthouses. So it should be "their light", but that makes it sound kinda unclear? How abt smth like this:
Drawn to bright lights, they are often found in rock beds around lighthouses, copying their rotation. After high tide, lighthouse keepers should check around for any POKENAME, since too many can hinder sailors.

[noble schooner]

It's already been submitted but I'll be sure to ping an unown to tweak it. Feeling a bit ill and drowsy atm... I wanted to do more today but I could only manage one this time...

[jagged ledge]

Oh no! Rest up and take care of yourself. I hope you feel better soon.

[noble schooner]

Oh I didn't mean to say that for any attention or anything 😅 but still thanks, appreciate it

[weak osprey]

Feel better soon!

[noble schooner]

Should probably try to fix my sleep anyway... it's almost 3:30am for me

[timid sky]

https://tenor.com/view/gotobed-sleep-gif-26448348

[hexed fog]

I feel like there are more golbat than any other pokemon ever

[noble schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hulkbuster-ironman-sleep-gif-11542483

[narrow cosmos]

So many Golbat heads

[vast blaze]

A followup on this:

Here are a couple slightly updated entries for Golurk/Minior and Golurk/Minior-core. The first sentence is repeated in both entries in an attempt to illustrate that these are two forms of the same Pokemon without violating FAQ 7 (inter-referential entries), i.e. allowing both to be read independently without issue.

Golurk/Minior (369.498):
POKENAME were made by ancient people, who commanded them to survey the stratosphere to an unknown end. Over millennia, the flow of atmospheric dust has eroded their shells, leaving them vulnerable to strong impacts.

Golurk/Minior-Core (369.499):
POKENAME were made by ancient people, who commanded them to survey the stratosphere to an unknown end. Their now-defunct shells shattered, they violently unleash their internal energy before fading into nothingness.

Any advice is appreciated.

[weak osprey]

Those seem good to me!

And having the same first sentence is a good way to keep them independent

[hexed fog]

just be sure you grab the image number for fusions off of the fusiondex once they are in the game

since Minior isn't on the fusiondex yet I would wait for the site to update just to be sure

[near latch]

Ah, my bad. I'll be more careful in the future. I do hope I did not cause you any trouble or waste too much of your time. 🙏

[vast blaze]

Gotcha - thanks!

[fallow tiger]

are inter-referential entries allowed if they were both submitted by me?

[near latch]

I have autism and I am very forgetful and distractable, which frequently causes troubles for myself and others 🙇

[narrow cosmos]

It tags alongside its trainer, its protective nature making it wary of any strangers drawing near. Even faces familiar to the trainer must be wary; if they aren't familiar enough to POKENAME, they risk getting bitten.

Imagine trying to tell your little 3-foot Gardevoir "No, that's my cousin visiting from Kalos, no biting!"

[hexed fog]

no.

[weak osprey]

Looks good to me. Gotta appreciate a well-placed semicolon.

[narrow cosmos]

I'm always wary of whether or not I'm using those properly.

[weak osprey]

A good rule is if you can replace it with a conjunction like "because"

I have a set of submissions for the Drowzee-Machop, Machoke, Machamp line. Lmk what you think, especially if they are too reliant on each other.

Drowchop (96.66) (xoto)
POKENAME have ambitious dreams, but are naturally undisciplined, so they must use their trunk to sap others of their motivation. If you can’t stick to a diet or workout routine, you were probably visited by a POKENAME.

Drowchoke (96.67) (gnose_)
With how many dreams of self-improvement it's eaten, POKENAME is at the top of its game. It wishes to inspire such dreams in others so that it may consume those too.

Drowchamp (96.68) (cyprexx)
Having consumed so many ambitions that it could not fulfill, POKENAME manifests a being from dreams of what-could-have-been.

I'm trying to play with dreams as aspirations rather than dreams per se, but I'm not sure if that comes across, especially in the later entries.
And I have a couple other takes at Drowchamp, but I'm not sure if they're better:
POKENAME has consumed so many dreams of self-improvement that it can no longer fulfill them. These dreams have manifested themselves as a ghost of what POKENAME could have been.
After a life of much success, POKENAME becomes complacent, resting on its laurels. It's now haunted by the image of what it could've been.

[reef pine]

I think these work both standalone and as a set personally, so they might be okay. i like the idea of it eating aspirational dreams instead of sleepy dreams

[weak osprey]

It felt like a festive topic haha

[reef pine]

reminds me a bit of how i've seen the slaking line described, where slakoth is chill, vigoroth is trying super hard, and then slaking is like "y'know what? nah"

very true haha

[weak osprey]

I had the idea before I saw the whole line, so when I saw that Drowchamp is tubby again and has a Stand I wasn't sure how to tie it in, but I'm happy with the idea I landed on.

[fossil root]

I saw that the spreadsheet said the entry I submitted was accepted, does that mean it's in, or will be in if it isn't already?

[hollow nimbus]

It'll be in once Frog adds the next batch of entries to the game

I think that usually happens with every update

[fair thicket]

I hope mine won’t get borked up because I think some of the sprite error fixers are going to rename some of my sprites

[hexed fog]

the next time the list is imported there will be an announcement

[fossil root]

Thanks! I'm gonna write some drafts for other entries for more sprites!

Ledyba/Tyrogue (Fusion name: Ledyrogue)
||POKENAME has modeled itself after a superheroine featured in a TV show. It is especially popular in the Kalos region.||
or
||POKENAME has modeled itself after a superheroine featured in a TV show. It is especially popular in Lumiose City.||
Which version sounds better? Or is there a way I could enhance the second sentence, making it longer?

[lucid flower]

i like the second a lil more

[turbid sundial]

Is the sprite a reference to something? Kind of curious

[hexed fog]

Not me about to make entries about the Savoury Cinnabar, Bellossom Garden Salad and Confit de volaille aux poireaux

[fossil root]

Yes, it's a reference to Miraculous Ladybug, being the titular superheroine. And the entries saying its popular in the Kalos Region and Lumiose City reference how those respective areas are based off of France, and the city of Paris, the latter being where the show takes place.

[weak osprey]

Wdym it modeled itself? It might make more sense if you say that it inspired a TV show, or that there is a TV show that stars it.

[fossil root]

That works!

[turbid sundial]

Ahhh that makes sense, creative thinking

[fossil root]

||POKENAME has inspired a superheroine featured in a TV show. It is especially popular in the Kalos region.||
or
||POKENAME has inspired a superheroine featured in a TV show. It is especially popular in Lumiose City.||
How are these? It now says it inspired the show.

[weak osprey]

Maybe mention why it inspired it? Smth like this:
POKENAME regularly uses its skill in combat to protect the cities in which it resides from crime. Its work is so renowned that it stars in a popular TV based in Lumiose City from the Kalos Region.

Or work in some other reference to MLB (I've never seen it so I can't say)

as long as the reference isn't direct

[fossil root]

That's PERFECT!

[lucid flower]

throw in smth about hating cat pokemon if u really want a on the nose ref

[weak osprey]

Lemme look to see if there's already a Cat Noir fusion somewhere

[fossil root]

I think there are two.

Meowth/Gallade & Umbreon/Persian

[weak osprey]

Aww, I guessed Umbreon/Meowth first

[fossil root]

I submitted this one already, though. I didn't think the hating cats part would make sense.

[weak osprey]

Oh yeah!

[weak osprey]

Fair enough

What do you guys think of this one?
Drowcute (96.102) (yepitscaio)
Each POKENAME contains a unique dream. Cracking one open will reveal the dream inside and allow another POKEMON to see it in their sleep.

[turbid sundial]

Kind of dark, I like it. I bet there would be a lot of superstitions surrounding that 😅

[weak osprey]

Yeah, but there are cannon entries abt Pokemon being eaten and there is a cracked one in the sprite so hope it's too much.
It's meant to be more melancholy, like the Drowcute dies, but the dream can live on, yk what I mean?

[fossil root]

That sounds like something that would happen in Insurgence. (BTW, are there any Insurgence themed fusions?)

[weak osprey]

I'm not familiar with Insurgence 👀

[fossil root]

It’s another Pokémon fan game, which involves actual cults replacing villainous teams.

[weak osprey]

Oh neat

[hollow nimbus]

#fusions is a great place to inquire about kinds of fusions

It doesn't stay on the sidebar by default when you join, iirc, so may people don't know about it

[weak osprey]

Drowzee/Gastly
Drowtly (96.92) (funkytomate)
Its body is almost entirely comprised of people’s regrets. If you’re suddenly overcome with wistfulness and hopelessness, there’s probably a POKENAME above your head.

Are there better words than "wistfullness and hopless" that I can use? They seem a little clunky.

[crude karma]

for a french, it's perfect to love the dex and appreciate the reference

as french, i like this dex

[fossil root]

Hey, with the Japeal Fusion Generator sprites, are those gonna use the current entries in the website? That would be cool!

[hexed fog]

No.

[fossil root]

Just a thought.

[fallow tiger]

thank you, my submissions as far as i am aware do not count as inter referential anyways so i think im good

[fair thicket]

🤔 What do you mean by “wistfulness” in this case? I generally think of that as more bittersweet than the despair “hopelessness” evokes

[fair thicket]

🤔 Explain what you mean by “current entries in the website” - what website?

[weak osprey]

I mean it means just what you described. A more bittersweet longing for what could've been.
I don't see the issue though. They're not meant to mean the same thing. It'd be redundant to mention them both if they did.

It's meant to, like, remind you of all of your past regrets, yk?
I was tryna think of what "poisonous thoughts" would be w/o it being too dark.

[fair thicket]

I see, I see 🤔 lemme think on it

[weak osprey]

Yeah I've been chewing on it for a little bit and I'm not sure how best to convey it 🤔

[fair thicket]

Honestly, you might even be able to say:

“Its body is almost entirely comprised of people’s regrets. If you’re suddenly overcome with a bittersweet longing for what could have been, there’s probably a POKENAME above your head.“

(Sorry for the formatting; I’m on mobile)

I’ll have to check on ‘composed’ vs ‘comprised’ though

[weak osprey]

I think they're synonyms.

[weak osprey]

Hmm yeah that's a good point.

[fair thicket]

I… think? this is saying “composed” is correct here? The passive voice makes it harder to tell

[weak osprey]

Fair enough

the more you know :v

[fair thicket]

So I think it would be “Its body almost entirely comprises people’s regrets” if you wanted to go that way?

[weak osprey]

Naw I'll just use composed of haha

[fair thicket]

While you’re here, wanna give some critique for this^ entry of mine?

[jaunty crest]

Fun fact, try to put "confit de volaille aux poireaux" into google translate

[weak osprey]

Hmm it's almost perfect

I mean it's really evokative. I can't think of any way to reword it that doesn't also make me feel as, like, sad as the current one.

[fair thicket]

shouldn't it be "confit de canard aux poireaux"?
i don't speak french

[boreal canyon]

NGL, I like this dish x)

[boreal canyon]

Canard = duck
Volaille = poultry

[fair thicket]

👍 google translated it as "chicken"
silly google 😌

[boreal canyon]

It's not wrong

It's also chicken, it's an umbrella term, some use it for chicken, some for poultry, some just for "bird you eat"

[fair thicket]

:nodnod: google is silly because it could have understood it was an umbrella term and used the proper translation, but it did not 😌

[jaunty crest]

duck is poultry

[boreal canyon]

Too many words to say one thing x)

[fair thicket]

I think my final quibble is with the phrase frozen at the moment of extraction. because I'm trying to convey... "frozen in the moment of extraction"? The pieces are frozen in the shape they were at the moment of extraction. I'm not sure the current phrasing communicates exactly that.

[weak osprey]

I think that was clear

But yeah "in" would make more sense now that you mention it

[fair thicket]

i'll change it to "in" and submit it, then 👍

watch as shenanigans happen because carbink's not on daena yet

[hollow nimbus]

frozen at the moment of is just fine

[weak osprey]

Yeah either/or

[hexed fog]

I figured so I used a farfetchd fusion when detailing a dex entry

[boreal prairie]

any entries who haven't got any notes today people would like looked at

[dull dome]

Garchomp/Salamence

After a cellular mutation, this Pokémon is finally able to fly. As such, it is commonly seen challenging aircraft to races, which it often wins.

any ideas to making it flow better?

[sturdy void]

Both Pokémon were able to fly beforehand.

?

[dull dome]

After a cellular mutation, this Pokémon is finally able to fly. As such, it is commonly seen challenging aircraft to races, which it often wins. On the rare occasion it loses, POKENAME will break out into a fit of rage, burning everything in sight.

would this be better?

[dull dome]

this could fly?

[sturdy void]

No, I mean both Garchomp and Salamence.

That certainly is some outline shading.

Yikes.

[dull dome]

ohhh i see what you mean

yeah doesnt really make sense

[dull dome]

POKENAME is commonly seen challenging aircraft to races, which it often wins. On the rare occasion it loses, POKENAME will break out into a fit of rage, burning everything in sight.

this better?

[sturdy void]

It'd be a fun reference to instead say that it breaks out into a stomping tantrum.....

[dull dome]

oooo yeah

POKENAME is commonly seen challenging aircraft to races, which it often wins. On the rare occasion it loses, POKENAME will break out into a stomping tantrum, also burning everything in sight.

this better?

[sturdy void]

Eh

[dull dome]

but idk if it makes sense as the race would be in the air

i think the latter flows better

[sturdy void]

"causing massive fissures to swallow up the aircraft once it lands" idk could be funky

[dull dome]

ehhh

[sturdy void]

The burning doesn't really correlate to the stomping so I'd cut out one or the other

Twas simply an idea I had for flavor

[dull dome]

yeah. ill probably cut the stomping as it doesnt make the most sense

[sturdy void]

K

[dull dome]

alr ima submit it

[fossil root]

The website where the different sprites are shown, the one that has the entries use one sentence from each component in the fusion, starting with the head.

[fair thicket]

?tag calcs one of these? because yeah, those are the autodex

[upper loom]

https://infinitefusiondex.com/: Good for looking at stats, locations, movesets, and type matchups, as well as looking at the inverse fusions side-by-side.

https://www.fusiondex.org/: Good for looking at sprites and fusion names. Also includes stats, but no comparisons. Not updated for 6.4 yet

[fossil root]

Yeah, the auto-dex entries featured in the FusionDex.

[dull dome]

This Pokémon is often sold by con artists, under the muse that it is a shiny Gyarados. It can be identified by it's lack of teeth and it's orange fins.

thoughts?

i based it off how it looks like a shiny gyrados in the lake of rage

[fair thicket]

🤔 "muse"? is that some con artist argot or a false cognate (since i know some folks here aren't native speakers of English)

[dull dome]

ah seems it isnt or smth

i think i thought it was smth else

or wait

it means think

[fair thicket]

:nodnod: yep, i've done that
🤔 what's the word... "impression"?

[dull dome]

so i could work

[fossil root]

I think you mean “guise”

[dull dome]

yeah yeah thats it

[fair thicket]

ooh yes that's a good word

[dull dome]

alright ima submit it unless anyone has any other feedback?

[fair thicket]

ye, but only as a verb, i believe
as a verb, it's more like "personification of divine inspiration"
like how Meloetta is seen as a muse for songwriters

[dull dome]

ah alr

[fair thicket]

some grammar:

This Pokémon is often sold by con artists under the guise that it is a shiny Gyarados. It can be identified by its lack of teeth and its orange fins.

Unfortunately, English punctuation means that "it's" means only "it is" and not the possessive

[dull dome]

ah alr

tysm

[fair thicket]

🤔 maybe "Its true identity can be discerned by"?

[dull dome]

ooooo

[vast blaze]

Are shiny Pokemon directly described in dex entries? Would it be better to replace that term with something indirect, like a "special/rare/extremely rare/etc. Gyarados"?

[fair thicket]

🤔 or even "revealed" instead of "discerned", perhaps?

[fair thicket]

"rare color morph of" might be a good replacement that still conveys the same idea

[dull dome]

i could do "a rare red gyarados"

This Pokémon is often sold by con artists under the guise that it is a rare red Gyarados. Its true identity can be revealed by its lack of teeth and its orange fins.

yep looks good

thanks everyone!

[fossil root]

No problem!

[dull dome]

im suprised it doesnt have a dex entry yet

[narrow cosmos]

The Magikarp/Gyarados? It actually does, but nothing really stopping anybody from adding another entry to one that already has one. (Except for maybe some eventual limit on dex-based data, but I'm no programmer to know that.)

[dull dome]

weird, as it didnt mark my entry as yellow when i submitted it

POKENAME can fire off lasers capable of freezing foes at -60 degrees F. It is rumored to bring defeated foes to another world.

another one, what do yall think?

[narrow cosmos]

The eyes on its body can each launch powerful ice beams to freeze opponents. Those who have met POKENAME's gaze report feeling a chill run up their spine, separate from its ice powers.

I'm not entirely sold on how I've worded the last sentence, though overall it does get the point I'm trying to make across, I think.

[dull dome]

mabye "Each of the eyes on its body"

flows better

[narrow cosmos]

That does help on the first sentence, yeah!

[dull dome]

POKENAME uses its powerful ears to find things to mime. Once it hears you, it is nearly impossible to avoid being mimed.

any replacements for things? was thinking pokemon but what about humans too?

[fair thicket]

aw, gotta save the custom entries for custom sprites!

[dull dome]

oh

i just did a random fusion

[fair thicket]

🤔 "targets to mimic" instead of "things to mime", perhaps?
not sure about the use of "mimed" in the second sentence, though

[dull dome]

ooo sure

yea me nethier

idk what else to use

[dull dome]

which one sounds the best?

micmicked?

i think im going with that

[fair thicket]

🤔 well, it depends on the nature of the mimicry
is it neutral? is it mocking? exaggerated? sneakily?

[dull dome]

true

[dull dome]

its a habit

so neutral

To POKENAME, miming is a habit. It uses its powerful ears to find targets to mime. Once it hears you, it is nearly impossible to avoid being mimicked.

wb this?

[rich tree]

i wanna do something involving a shell... (Spinarak + Kakuna)

[dull dome]

you could say smth like this pokemon is targeted by birds, but its hard shell repels them or smth

[rich tree]

ooh yeah

and also that it's not normally hostile as it no longer has fangs

[dull dome]

yea

[fair thicket]

POKENAME wield their cable-like tentacles as counterbalances as their buoyant bodies float deftly through the air. They can deliver an intense shock through the ends of these tentacles, but a strike from a calm and collected POKENAME will be harmless.

🤔 how's this @mild veldt ? I made some edits for concision and clarification.
It's still over the character limit by one, but I figured I'd run this by you before I fussed too much over final details.
(And just so you know, you're gonna have to remember to submit the final dex entry in the form once the sprite gets admitted to the game.)
#sprite-gallery message

(honestly, i might end up going through the gallery and checking to see if the dex entries supplied have been added or need edits. 🤔 At some point, at least.)

🤔 if we can get spriters to use POKENAME when they add dex entries to their gallery posts, that might make them a lot easier to find
i'll have to check if something in a code block shows up in the search EDIT: they do

[mild veldt]

Thanks a lot, friend! Greatly appreciated!

[nocturne shadow]

353.135.png
"When low on electricity, POKENAME will bloat themselves up like balloons to attract lightning strikes from thunderstorms. When they are fully charged, they will plummet to the ground and safely land on their paws."

I almost image this pokemon either riding the "waves" of a lighting strike or imitating one as it falls, but I don't know if it's neccessary information or how to concisely add it. Any ideas?

Or is the one I already have good enough?

[uncut plover]

Can I request someone to do one for one of my sprites?

[fair thicket]

sure, why not
got any specific ones in mind or neat design notes you want to incorporate/that might not be obvious?

[weak osprey]

I'd be happy to pitch in too :D

[weak osprey]

I love the imagery here! Although I'd swap out "bloat" for "blow" haha

[nocturne shadow]

Ok, thanks

[uncut plover]

I have a few fusions you can choose from. Anything you like in general to give an entry too? Spooky mons? Cute mons?

[weak osprey]

I vote for a cute one

[uncut plover]

I have a few of those!

These two could be something to work with?

if you have another preferred pokemon, I can see if I have a fusion with that one incorperated

[weak osprey]

Are they mixed with rotom?

[uncut plover]

yes!

rotom body

[weak osprey]

btw I love how the tails are incorporated into the design

Oh these are normal/ghost types 🤔

[uncut plover]

I think they are yea

[fair thicket]

Definitely something about the furret zooming
Zappy lightning bolt tail
Something something using telephone wires to travel, or electrical arcing

Nyoooooom but furret so fyooooooooom

[weak osprey]

Oooh yeah cuz normal furrets live in literal tunnels in the ground, maybe there's smth there with them living in electrical wires as a different sort of tunnel

[uncut plover]

"Zoomies" yeah

[weak osprey]

And rotom are kinda mischievous, so maybe they live in telephone lines and... prank call you maybe?

I'm looking at furret's entry rn and all it's saying is that it's long and skinny, nimble, and lives in nests underground.

You could mention that they're skittish and if you ever spot one, it will dive into an outlet to escape.

[fossil root]

Maybe make a reference to that meme involving Furret walking while that one song from the Pokemon games plays for the Furret fusion!

[weak osprey]

I'm tryna think how to make a reference like that clear

I mean it doesn't have legs to walk with 🤔

[fossil root]

It was just a thought.

[weak osprey]

No yeah I wasn't tryna shoot it down. I'm just thinking it through 😅

[fossil root]

BTW, what song is used in the meme?

[weak osprey]

Not sure 🤔

[weak osprey]

Oh, here's an idea for Furtom
Maybe they're the reason your wires always get twisted and tangled.

Maybe they naturally like living in wires that are bendy and winding, so they will naturally knot the wires that they live in?

[narrow cosmos]

I went and looked up some of your sprites, chose one that inspired me a little, what do you think of this?

When it spins rapidly, its limbs fling hot melted wax that singe targets. Those burned by the wax are said to be marked by POKENAME, so that it can find them and drain their life force no matter where they go.

[uncut plover]

Accumula Town theme

[uncut plover]

That could be a possibility!

[uncut plover]

I like that a lot!

[fossil root]

Are there evolutions for the Litwick side of it? Like Hitmontop/Lampent and Hitmontop/Chandelure?

[uncut plover]

you mean the reverse? (Hitmontop/litwick line)

or do you mean evos to the litwick/hitmontop?

I think they both lines have no custom sprites yet

[narrow cosmos]

Reversing the fusion has no custom sprite, but there are sprites for Litwick/Hitmonlee and chan. Litwick's evolutions + Hitmontop are also lacking customs.

[fossil root]

Wait, so that was Litwick/Hitmontop, not Hitmontop/Litwick?

[weak osprey]

POKENAME make their homes in long thin electrical cords such as headphone wires in which they can have fun zooming through its twists and turns. To this end, they will bend their homes into knots, much to the chagrin of the cords' owners.
How's this?

[uncut plover]

Holy crap, I couldn't have said it better! I can absolutely see this as an official dexentry!

I'm not the best when it comes to punctuation or structure, so maybe see if someone has anything to say about that, but the rest has it's full approval from me!

[fossil root]

Is this for the Sentret fusion, or the Furret one?

[weak osprey]

Great! I'll turn it in in a few hours :)

I'll start mulling over Sentrom and get back to you

[weak osprey]

Furret

[narrow cosmos]

With a simple mind and a lazy disposition, POKENAME are very easy to catch in the wild. Many have even been simply picked up and carried home by trainers without a Pokéball, POKENAME offering no resistance and simply adapting to its new home.

[weak osprey]

LMAO that's defo the vibe it gives

[narrow cosmos]

@uncut plover Thoughts on my take on your lazy derpy boi?

[uncut plover]

hahahah I love it! I'm gonna take one home myself if it's that easy

[weak osprey]

Omg what if they're, like, common first pets for children because they don't require a lot of maintenence

[timid sky]

First off, I’d recommend changing the comma after Pokeball to a period. I’d also word the third sentence as:

POKENAME offers no resistance and simply adapts to its new home

[weak osprey]

The only thing would be that it should prolly be "their new home" because the subject is "many" which is plural.

DarkWeaville's suggestion also fixes that issue haha

[narrow cosmos]

That plural/singular thing always messes me up, especially if I do multiple entries, I switch perspectives without realizing. Fixed, though!

[narrow cosmos]

The parents will have problems though, cause then the kids become teens and the Slakoth half becomes a Vigoroth.

[weak osprey]

Mmmmh true

I mean a lot of people get pets when they're young thinking they're easy only to find out they're unruly when they grow up.

Like people will buy little piglets not knowing how big they'll get.

[narrow cosmos]

Yeah, though honestly, I like to view Pokemon stuff as idealistic, so I think Wooper/Quagsire balances it out. At worst, Vigoroth just makes it hyper playful for a while, before it becomes a Quagsire/Slaking and enters hyper-lazy-brain-empty mode.

Due to its ugly appearance and Drifloon's reputation, children are warned against going near POKENAME if spotted. It has no ill motives, however; all POKENAME wishes for is to be held by a happy child.

[weak osprey]

I think "if spotted" isn't necessary. and I'd remove the comma before "however"

[narrow cosmos]

Good ideas, I've made the adjustments.

@uncut plover Your thoughts? It's another of yours, how does it sound? 😄

[uncut plover]

Y'all are going off. I was just thinking of one or two sprites to make dex entries for, but hey... Ain't complaining

[weak osprey]

And while you're at it, here's my go at a Sentrom entry:
Swarms of POKENAME consume discarded appliances from the inside out. If one spots a predator approaching, the inhabited appliance will rattle as all of the POKENAME within scatter.

[uncut plover]

is it descarded or discarded?

[weak osprey]

oop

Um, "discarded" obviously haha 👀
Who would spell it with an e? Certainly not me

[hearty kite]

Not me

[uncut plover]

"must've been my imagination" type shi

[weak osprey]

Anyway idk if I should keep it as it is or switch it so that the swarms of Sentrom try eating appliances in general and scatter when a human approaches.
This way would lean more into them as a nuisance (since they're half rotom)

But also I feel like they wouldn't get very far considering how often we interact with our appliances, yk?

I'm not sure which angle makes the most sense 🤔

[uncut plover]

depends though, if they even consider us as predators

[weak osprey]

I mean, if a swarm of Sentrom were trying to eat my oven, I'd try and remove them yk? So they'd prolly be scared of humans.

[uncut plover]

I guess so

[weak osprey]

I think I'll keep it as is, since they'd probably learn to avoid appliances around places where people will actually find them.

Omg it took me a sec to realize what this was, but it's actually so clever.

[uncut plover]

Too bad the !battle command wasn't available yet when I made it, so now the coins are somewhat floating

[weak osprey]

Oh! I just realized you did the evolution to Feeloon too

[uncut plover]

[weak osprey]

It looks like it has motion sickness 😅

Or it's scared of heights or smth

[uncut plover]

Honestly... Could be. I was just thinking about it being bloated by keeping the air in it's mouth

[weak osprey]

Oooooh

Lemme chew on this for a bit

[narrow cosmos]

Given Feebas is also kinda weak like Magikarp, I imagine it's something like

"POKENAME achieves greater heights by sucking in massive amounts of air to bloat its body. Holding its breath for too long causes it visible distress."

I'd say that's putting that expression it's making mildly.

[weak osprey]

Oh yeah that works!

[lone prism]

So genuine question. Do all of the entries have to be legit, or can we make something for one of our own sprites that sounds like an anecdote rather than a proper entry?
For example, I started working on a sprite and gave up on it and months later it was harvested and fixed up by another artist and added to the game.
So knowing that, my entry for it would be "It was never supposed to see the light of day! It was meant to be sealed away in the dark and never seen again! - Researcher's Note"

Said sprite was

[weak osprey]

I think they all have to fit in the the pokedex style

I don't see where it explicitly says that, but based on the google sheet, any submission that strays from the normal pokedex voice get's unapproved on those grounds.

[fair thicket]

Well, I don’t know how my weezing/altaria got approved, since the premise was that the dex writer made a very salty entry after themself falling prey to its silly hats
So maybe look at that one as an example?

[weak osprey]

Oh yeah?

[fair thicket]

🤔 Wonder if you could get away with your entry by just removing “Researcher’s Note” or if the rest of it would still stray too far from dex register

[weak osprey]

Is that the one that reads
Though its be-hatted appearance is deceptively quaint, POKENAME will gleefully share its toxic gasses with any passer-by. Thankfully, the trail of yellow clouds serves as ample warning to those who keep their heads about them.

Cuz the style in this entry is rly different from EmpathNaga's suggestion.

[fair thicket]

Gah. Mobile hates spreadsheets

[fair thicket]

Yeah, that’s the one

Very salty, but still adhering to dex register, even if passive-aggressively

[weak osprey]

Yeah

[fair thicket]

I mean, I could see “It was never meant to see the light of day.” in a dex entry. Not sure if it’d need something different in the second sentence to tie it all together though

[lone prism]

minecraft villager noises in thought

The other thing is that reading Jynx's pokedex entries, a number of them mention that Jynx speaks in a language that is similar to humans, but is impossible to understand and research is ongoing into how to translate this. You can also see this in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon where some of her dialogue is just symbols. So with that in mind, I also wrote:
"POKENAME speaks in an incomprehensible tongue that can drive listeners to madness. Its kiss brings a fitful sleep filled with surreal and unsettling dreams as its unblinking eyes observe its prey."

[fair thicket]

I feel like there’s a more evocative word than “observe”, but other than that

[narrow cosmos]

I did something similar to this for an entry, but it's not been accepted, and I didn't know if it would. One of the alts for double Ultra Necrozma is just a big [REDACTED] box, so I made an entry basically saying. "All information has been removed for the safety of the user. There are some things man was not meant to know."

[fair thicket]

Bah. Joke sprites deserved joke entries

[weak osprey]

For example, there this Gyardos/Golurk fusion with this entry that they're on the fence abt:
Upon the first recorded fusion of POKENAME, it leveled 10 miles straight from shore to land. Seriously, who thinks giving a rage-fish a battle mech is a good idea?!
So I think this is the limit of jokiness haha

[nocturne shadow]

226.277.png
Commonly found off the Alolan coast, POKENAME surf with other POKENAME and Mantine for sport. The one who performs the most tricks on the waters is deemed the leader of their squadron.

226.278.png
By shifting the leaves on their tails, POKENAME adjust their speed when swimming. POKENAME are very friendly to passing trainers, frequently offering them help across the seas.

[weak osprey]

I love the imagery of a bunch of Grotine(?) surfing for dominance haha. It's good overall but there are a few quibbles worth considering.

1. I'd say "off the Alolan coast" since the alolan ocean isn't what it's called idt
2. Do you mean that it surfs with other POKENAME?
3. Would a group of them be a squadron? That has military implication to me.

[weak osprey]

This looks good to me :)

[nocturne shadow]

1: I could change it to "alolan oceans" as I don't know the actual names
2: This pokemon rides on the waves with other Mantine, the entry is mostly based on the minigame "Mantine Surf" in the alolan games
3: Squadron is a group on manta rays, the animal Mantine is based on

Love the name btw

Changing #1 to "off the Alolan coast" could be better

[weak osprey]

2: Maybe "With other POKENAME and Matine" just cuz "other Mantine" makes it sound like it is a Mantine, which it isn't, strictly speaking.
3: Ooooo okay that's perfect then.

[nocturne shadow]

Ok, thanks for the insight!

[weak osprey]

Ofc :D

They're great ideas!

[nocturne shadow]

Doing a nuzlocke and making an entry for any mons that die. Mon literally died the battle before ||Zapmulcuno||

Sadge

[weak osprey]

Aw...

[nocturne shadow]

Got another death lol

[weak osprey]

RIPPP

[nocturne shadow]

453.175.png
Though seemingly harmless at first, POKENAME will unwillingly drain the life-force of those who care for it. Even though this leads to POKENAME living lives of loneliness and resentment, they smile nonetheless.

[weak osprey]

Awww

Aside from removing "still" since it's a touch redundant, it looks good to me.
It's so sad 😢

[lone prism]

Pls, my favorite pokemon is Litwick and Chandelure - you think I'm not used to my life energy geting siphoned from me?

No wait that's clinical depression ( ono)

[dense shard]

hello guys sorry to have been off these days, I'm on a vacation with family so I barely have time to check on, maybe I'll be submitting one or two dex entries before returning in a week and fully tuning in back again

[jagged ledge]

I used this line in a playthrough once! I love these ideas!

[jagged ledge]

No worries, this is a casual project. Any contribution is appreciated, but real life comes first!

[weak osprey]

Glaligatr (428.160) (scut_uy)
Parents warn their children that if they skate on ice without their supervision, POKENAME will crash through the ice a gobble them up. Of course, POKENAME don't eat humans; this is just a story so that children don't risk falling through thin ice.
(247 characters. Almost over the limit haha)

[faint reef]

how can i tell if an entry is ai or manually made? i might make a few for some of my faves

i just don´t want to make one for one that someone already made one for

[weak osprey]

The best way that I've been able to tell is by going to the google sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JOqitOP72D-s_es1-F7OzVPUkKJ3tytjfvhptx1KAK8/edit?usp=sharing
going to the RESPONSES tab and then ctrl+f for the file name of the fusion in question.

For example, Glaligatr's file name is 428.160

[faint reef]

ok and then how do i find which file name is for which pokemon?

[weak osprey]

Yeah so if you go to one of the online fusion dexes

Let's see if this works

?calc

damn I forgot what the command is

?tag calc

[upper loom]

Did you mean ?tag calcs

[weak osprey]

?tag calcs

[upper loom]

https://infinitefusiondex.com/: Good for looking at stats, locations, movesets, and type matchups, as well as looking at the inverse fusions side-by-side.

https://www.fusiondex.org/: Good for looking at sprites and fusion names. Also includes stats, but no comparisons. Not updated for 6.4 yet

[weak osprey]

You can look up the fusion in question and it'll say on the side of their name what the number is

For example this is Togepi and Venepede
On this website, none of them have the custom entries yet (at least it doesn't seem so).

For example, this one makes no sense.

[faint reef]

#339.367 so like this one?

[weak osprey]

Yes but in the google sheet you'll have to search w/o the hashtag

Like here you can see that one already exists and was approved

[faint reef]

ok thanks!

[weak osprey]

I'm new here so there's might be a better way but that's how I've been doing it haha

Happy to help :)

[faint reef]

and if i don´t find it with control f then there isn´t a dex entry?

also i think i found a way too. If the text in the game is green i think a person made it, if its ai its black/grey

[weak osprey]

Yes

[weak osprey]

Oh I didn't know that :V

[faint reef]

also where do i submuit them? i thought it was in #dex-entries-submissions

nvm found

i wrote in an entry i think its fun so i hope it gets in xd

[weak osprey]

Good luck :D

[boreal prairie]

Parents warn children that if they ice-skate without supervision, POKENAME will crash through the ice and gobble them up.

small concision suggestions in the first part.

I feel that the second idea sort of is redundant to the first. Basically, you are saying, "Parents warn children ... so that children are warned."

Maybe another detail like, why it would be silly even to think there is a risk.

[weak osprey]

Mmmh good point

[boreal prairie]

The thin ice phrase gave me a thought maybe something about lakes with ice skating it never would even live in

[weak osprey]

Mmmh smort

Lemme have another crack at it rq

Parents warn their children that if they skate on a lake alone, POKENAME will crash through the ice and gobble them up. This is just a story of course; POKENAME are marine Pokémon and they eat fish, not humans.
Smth like this?

[noble schooner]

Rapidash/Smeargle (By pory and iaobug)
"A reclusive artist that uses its own tail to dry its paint faster. It is highly accident prone and clumsy however, leading it to burn either its own artwork, or itself. It practices its work on boulders, yet the meaning behind them remains unclear."

[weak osprey]

Hahaha this is such a hilarious concept

[noble schooner]

you can thank the artists for this one XD

[weak osprey]

I think it works well as-is, but here's another take at it in case you like it better:
A reculusive artist that uses its own tail to dry its paint faster. This unconvential technique mixed with its clumsy nature leads to more burnt paintings than finished ones. It practices its work on boulders, yet their meaning remains unclear.

[chilly horizon]

i have written an entry for that one already, idk if they do multiple entries though

[weak osprey]

Oh yeah they don't allow multiple entries for the same mon

[chilly horizon]

sorrryyyy < / 3

[weak osprey]

Dw I also learned that the hard way haha.
You just gotta check the google sheet before writing anything up

[reef pine]

i think it's an entry per-sprite, so technically one mon can have multiple entries if they have multiple sprites right?

[weak osprey]

Oh you're right

that's what I meant

[reef pine]

ohh yea i getcha, i just confused myself

[weak osprey]

No that was my bad >_<

[boreal canyon]

I have no clue of what to dex it

[weak osprey]

Did you draw this one?

[boreal canyon]

But I want to include the front spike

[boreal canyon]

Yup

[weak osprey]

I like how it has the horn on one end and the tree on the other.
I have a special place in my heart for asymmetrical designs like that.

[boreal canyon]

Maybe it's not the gallery version, let me check, I'm on phone rn

#sprite-gallery message it's the good version

[boreal canyon]

I love asemetrycal stuff x)

[boreal canyon]

So yeah, I'm thinking something along the lines of "POKENAME roams wildly in a state of unexplainable eternal anger. It seems to open widely it's mouth when it spotted an interesting food source" but idk

[weak osprey]

Hmm lemme chew on it for a bit

[boreal canyon]

Go wild

[noble schooner]

damn... i was talking to the artist on which one that wanted to see a dex cencept for and they sent this one... had no idea it was already done...

[chilly horizon]

they asked some time ago and i selected that one but never told them

so its on me gfsjkdfghjkl

[noble schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-what-it-is-it-is-eet-eet-iz-iz-gif-17896182

[boreal canyon]

Well, if you want I can send you one of mine that shouldn't have a dex x)

[noble schooner]

i mean i would certainly love to give it a go. but please don't feel pressured to do so.

[boreal canyon]

Something vicious about this "sweet" one, I think something cool can be made

[noble schooner]

a Slurpuff/Aipom? alright... i'll give it a crack

oh... it's not a Slurpuff?

[boreal canyon]

Swirlix, good luck because the only thing I think is what it'll taste like x)

[noble schooner]

Swirlix! ahh i was close

[boreal canyon]

Yeah

[weak osprey]

Okay here are three ideas, lmk which you like the best:

1. POKENAME cannot hold still, but perpetually charges towards its next meal. Luckily it only eats plants.

2. POKENAME has a temper matched only by its appetite. Trainers brave enough to catch one learn that the only way to its heart is through its stomach.

3. When a POKENAME is hungry, it will rampage through underbrush, scooping foliage and soil alike into its maw until it can fit no more. Its jaw only closes when it is asleep and well-fed.

[boreal canyon]

I like 3 the best

-# But I strongly relate to 2.

[weak osprey]

Sounds good :D

[boreal canyon]

So yeah, you can submit it to the form :)

[weak osprey]

On it 😎

[boreal canyon]

[noble schooner]

@boreal canyon alright i think i've got something

[boreal canyon]

Ohh nice

I was about to write that you can take your time it's not urgent

X)

[noble schooner]

Swirlix/Aipom (By ._term.)
"Known as “The Baker’s Nightmare”. POKENAME are mischievous creatures that love sneaking into bakeries at dawn to rummage for new delicacies. If discovered in the act, they tend to throw handfuls of flour into the eyes of pursuers."

[weak osprey]

LMAO

[chilly horizon]

-# or pursuers

[boreal canyon]

Perfect vicious being

[chilly horizon]

"yeah this pokemon either throws flour, or throws you"

[noble schooner]

i CaUgHt It, AnD i FiXeD iT

[chilly horizon]

zwehehehe

[noble schooner]

POCKET FLOUR!!!

[weak osprey]

yk I always misspell it as "mischievious" cuz that's how I pronounce it

[weak osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-dale-gribble-pocket-sand-pocket-sand-gif-3699662

[noble schooner]

TAIL FLOUR!!!

[boreal canyon]

Plus the shape of my sprite being like "hehehe I got you" is just a perfect match x)

[noble schooner]

i'm glad you like it

"YoUr MeRiNgUeS aRe MiNe!"

[weak osprey]

I wanna see an animation of this so bad

[boreal canyon]

"Your sweet, you mean mine?"

[boreal canyon]

Hum... Yeah no I won't sprite an animation x)

[noble schooner]

"Oh, these are your cakes? Huh, they're MINE now."

[weak osprey]

I'm imagining a baker spots a Swirlpom with a macrone in its mouth and they just stare at each other for a moment before all hell breaks loose.

And the Swirlpom escapes and the baker throws down his hat and shakes his fist

[noble schooner]

a custom move called "Sweet Thief" where if the enemy pokemon is holding an edible item it yoinks it, snarfs it, lowering their special attack due to emotional damage

[weak osprey]

Oh no yeah, I didn't mean it like that

[weak osprey]

Bug bite works like that, right? Minus the emotional damage haha

[noble schooner]

yeah but make it fairy

[weak osprey]

Yeeee

[noble schooner]

"Oh is this YOUR berry?" Omnomnom

[boreal canyon]

-# what have I unleashed on this poor chat

@noble schooner you can submit it to the form if not done already, I'm on phone so it's really not practical

[noble schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/cookie-monster-dont-dont-tell-me-what-to-do-i-do-what-i-want-break-the-rules-gif-25385374

[noble schooner]

already have

[boreal canyon]

You want another one to work with?

[weak osprey]

I'm ready 😈

[noble schooner]

sure sure

[weak osprey]

Is this sneasel and metagross?

[noble schooner]

to be honest... i'm not sure what i'm looking at XD

[boreal canyon]

Metagross/Sableye

[weak osprey]

Ahhhh sableye was gonna be my 2nd guess 🤭

[boreal canyon]

It's kidnaping a carbink for lunch

[weak osprey]

OH I see the carbink now

[chilly horizon]

iron man!?

[boreal canyon]

À happy mechanical Sableye stealing gems and carbink

[boreal canyon]

Close but no x)

[weak osprey]

Maybe a cat-burglar? Like it steals from museums?

Metagross are extremely intelligent after all (it's all their dex entries talk abt)

[boreal canyon]

Yeah why not

[boreal canyon]

And nothing salvageable from Sableye dex

[noble schooner]

Metagross/Sableye (By ._term.)
"With a built in sensor to detect high quality minerals and gems. POKENAME roam caves to collect and hoard large stockpiles of stones. Unfortunately, Carbink sometimes gets mistaken as such, being added to the collection very confused."
@boreal canyon

[weak osprey]

I'm drafting one up too and you can decide which you like better (dw I won't take it personal haha)

[noble schooner]

neither will i. it's what we're here for

[boreal canyon]

I like the idea, maybe replace first dot with a comma?

Also I'm waiting for fedora propositions

[weak osprey]

POKENAME are master burglars. They use their supercomputer-like brain to simulate and plan for every eventuality. They are employed by museum curators to ensure that their collection is truly impregnable.

[boreal canyon]

'cause maybe he have a different view that can be merged with your

[noble schooner]

every time people are like "change that comma to a full stop" or "change that full stop to a comma" MAKE UP YOUR MIND XD

I'M TRYING

[boreal canyon]

[noble schooner]

@weak osprey i like our different takes on the idea

[weak osprey]

Yeah, right?

[boreal canyon]

Could you refresh me on curator meaning?

[weak osprey]

A curator is someone who takes care of a museum

At least I think that's the term for it

[boreal canyon]

OK ok

[weak osprey]

Can confirm 😎

[boreal canyon]

I like both of your idea equally, isn't there a way to mix them?

[noble schooner]

you have a super genius thief idea. I have an obsessive gem excavator. honestly they can both work

[weak osprey]

Hmm 🤔

Upload the same sprite but one pixel to the right different and then have one dex entry for each 😌

/j

[noble schooner]

why not instead of a curator, maybe someone that is able to identify if the ores are indeed authentic or fake? i forgot the name of them...

[weak osprey]

Oh yeah what are those guys called?

https://tenor.com/view/cat-typing-fast-typing-gif-7867869

[boreal canyon]

The guys in pawn shop?

[noble schooner]

gemologist?

[weak osprey]

Jeweler?

[noble schooner]

well a jeweler just makes things with gems right?

[weak osprey]

Mmh right

[fallow tiger]

mineralogists? i think

[weak osprey]

I like mineralologist simply because I've never heard of a gemologist until I looked it up just now haha

[noble schooner]

both a mineralogist and gemologist? a partner of said people when wild ones are horders?

[boreal canyon]

I think that's it

[weak osprey]

With a built in sensor to detect high quality minerals and gems. POKENAME roam caves to collect and hoard large stockpiles of stones. Gemologists employ them to quickly ascertain a gem's quality.

smth along these lines?

[noble schooner]

can a dex entry even be credited by 2 people?

[weak osprey]

I don't see why not. Sprites can be, after all

[noble schooner]

true

[weak osprey]

I think we'll just have to put an ampersand.
WCS you're welcome to have your name on it

[boreal canyon]

With a built in sensor to detect high quality minerals and gems, POKENAME roam caves to collect and hoard large stockpiles of stones. Gemologists employ them to quickly ascertain a gem's quality, leading to Carbink being mistaken for precious gem sometimes.

I added a part

[boreal canyon]

Idk if it fits tho

[noble schooner]

It does on the form at least

[weak osprey]

I think he meant "fit" as in "makes sense"

[fallow tiger]

" All jewelry stores worth their salt employ POKENAME to keep up with the competitive market, but due to their meticulous nature an unfortunate Carbink finds it's ways onto an appraiser's table far too often "

just a thought

[weak osprey]

Oooooo

"APPRAISER" that's the word I was looking for

[boreal canyon]

Nah I meant on the form

[weak osprey]

Oh whoops :P

[noble schooner]

that does sound right

[boreal canyon]

'cause normally it shouldn't, 7 character extra

[noble schooner]

oh i didn't include the italic part

i thought that was just a note

[boreal canyon]

Sum'up perfectly all the ideas

[weak osprey]

comma after "nature" and "find its way" and I think that's perfect :V

[boreal canyon]

Nah I put it in italic to show what I added

[noble schooner]

whatever you're happy with, so long all the right people are credeted for the contribution

[fallow tiger]

right i always forget to remove the '

[noble schooner]

group effort after all

[noble schooner]

sorry if that sounded dismisive, wasn't the intention. brain feels a bit overloaded atm...

[boreal canyon]

I'll also make it two sentences like 90% of dex, so the comma before but can become a dot I think

[boreal canyon]

I think people will only be credited in the docs, Idk if there's in game credit for dex

[fallow tiger]

All jewelry stores worth their salt employ POKENAME to keep up with the competitive market. Due to their meticulous nature however, an unfortunate Carbink finds it's ways onto an appraiser's table far too often.

would something like this be better

[noble schooner]

there might be, i don't recall at this exact moment

[boreal canyon]

Imo yes

[noble schooner]

i can check

one of my main party members already has a custom entry. i'll see if a name is credited

it doesn't seem like it... personally i think it should since it's also a contribution like sprites are but phisically imposible to do so, it's fair enough

even if it's something simple like "- Writer's name" and the end of it

[weak osprey]

Yeah 🤔

Might be space constraints tho

[noble schooner]

well it's not up to us anyway. the devs might, might not, maybe they can't.

it's a forever evolving game though so anything could happen. plus the sames are on the submission doc so there's always a record for them

[boreal canyon]

You can always do a #game-suggestions

[weak osprey]

real

[noble schooner]

with the whole thing with the generated dex entries being removed there's already a good chance something like this is in the back of the dev's minds. but compared to existing issues it may only be a minor priority

[boreal canyon]

So yeah, you can submit it with the name of the 3 of you, I only was there to say "yes / no" so no need to name me

[boreal canyon]

Frog is on hiatus (break) rn so idk

[noble schooner]

i can do it. what's the version settled on and the people assosiated with it?

[weak osprey]

This one I believe

And it'd be me (.fedoraman), you and expiredbutter

[weak osprey]

Make sure to fix it to "its way" tho

[boreal canyon]

Anyways, good night day or whatever

[noble schooner]

yep, got it. the names are Fedora Man, expiredbutter and myself? am i missing someone?

[fallow tiger]

id prefer backgroundnoisegalore if its not too much trouble

[upper loom]

@boreal canyon I set your AFK: Sleeping or away

[noble schooner]

noted

@weak osprey you prefer "Fedora Man" or ".fedoraman"?

[timid sky]

POKENAME trains its muscles by lifting up boulders. However, they often end up lifting others of their kind due to their close resemblance to rocks. POKENAME rarely minds though, since they're happy to help others build muscle.

[weak osprey]

I've been putting .fedoraman

[noble schooner]

OH HEY! it's MADUDE! XD

[weak osprey]

IIIIII GET IT

[noble schooner]

I love that guy XD

[weak osprey]

The idea of Madude being kind-hearted and supportive is so on-point

[noble schooner]

@weak osprey @fallow tiger so i have it looking like this, all good?

[weak osprey]

I wanted to do smth like that with Noibat-Drowzee (Noizee) but it was alreayd taken 😔

[fallow tiger]

they sound like really sweet little muscle rocks

[weak osprey]

Singluar "way"

It finds its way

Or "their ways"

[noble schooner]

fixed

[fallow tiger]

looks good to me i think except for cabrink finds its way

[weak osprey]

Perf 😎

[weak osprey]

This looks good to me in terms of how it's written too btw :)

[noble schooner]

I literally have a thing I send to friends with that guy XD

@weak osprey @fallow tiger ok i submitted it

[weak osprey]

Btw I have a line of entries for the Drowzee/Totodile-Feraligatr line. Mind if you guys give it a once-over and lmk what y'all think?

[noble schooner]

the first i encountered this guy was from an egg too so it just cracker out like WASSUP?? XD

[fallow tiger]

its pale red, we forgot an apostrophe in appraiser's 💔 my bad

[noble schooner]

oh... well if it's a slight error the unown will most likely correct it

[weak osprey]

Drowdile (96.158) (cronchyradish)
Psychic/Water
POKENAME can pick up on brainwaves through their trunk, and host an impressively strong jaw for their size. Trainers often learn the hard way that at this age, they follow their nose and explore with their mouth.

Drownaw (96.159) (cronchyradish)
Psychic/Water
At this age, POKENAME have not yet mastered their empathic abilities, though they firmly believe otherwise. They will often ignore what their trainer says if it contradicts the empathic reading they believe to have gleaned.
//This one idt is communicated v well

Drowligatr (96.16) (scut_uy)
Psychic/Water
POKENAME stalk their prey along the water’s edge, using their trunks to breathe as their body remains hidden underwater. They can sense their prey’s brainwaves to strike when they least expect it.

[noble schooner]

i'm gonna take a break now, mind isoverloaded. chat again soon though

[fallow tiger]

take care

[weak osprey]

👍

[fallow tiger]

At this age, POKENAME have not yet mastered their empathic abilities, though they firmly believe otherwise. Their hubris will often lead to denying their trainers orders if it contradicts their empathic reading, regardless of how accurate it may be at that point.

for Drownaw, but its too long

[weak osprey]

Hmm

[fallow tiger]

could just cut out the last bit, ' At this age, POKENAME have not yet mastered their empathic abilities, though they firmly believe otherwise. Their hubris will often lead to denying their trainers orders if it contradicts their empathic reading, regardless of how accurate it may be. '

[weak osprey]

The idea I'm going for is, like, they think you want to play, so they'll play fight with you (which is rough cuz of their jaws), even when you tell them you don't want to play rn.

That's more the vibe I'm going for

[fallow tiger]

mhm mhm i get you

[weak osprey]

Like you think that them being having psychic abilities would make them understand you better but it just makes them more confidently wrong.

[fallow tiger]

ohh i see what you were going for now, i missed the mark

its a really creative idea 🙂

[weak osprey]

Like I said, I didn't explain it well

[weak osprey]

POKENAME is yet to master its empathic abilities, though it firmly believes otherwise. If it thinks its trainer wants to play, it will chomp onto them no matter how many times they tell it no.
Smth like this? (193 chars)

[boreal prairie]

I know it is a bit late but I do like this update a lot!

[weak osprey]

Not too late at all! I was gonna wait until tmr morning just in case

And thanks! Anything to change abt the entries for Drowdile or Drowligatr?

Idk if the implication is clear with the "it follows its nose and explores with its mouth" thing

[uncut plover]

@weak osprey @narrow cosmos @fair thicket Thank you guys again for your help, btw

[weak osprey]

Ofc! It's hard finding a sprite that I want to work on, but when it's just presented and I can talk with its creator, it makes it a lot easier 😎

So you're welcome to send more sprites our way (I've called it a night but I'll be back tmr)

[uncut plover]

Have a good night

[weak osprey]

You too 👋

[fair thicket]

coo'
pick one of the not gray or green ones and have a ball: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgPza4br-FAwj7t9VPAU4g_I4E2nfTRf2nGuMc96S-E/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[limber sentinel]

Ferroco (413.204) (eb_the_scholar)
POKENAME will use it's spikes to embed itself onto a tree, sapping nutrients from it. When in danger, POKENAME will self-destruct, which results in it's spikes being flung out from it's explosion, potentially hurting any nearby Pokémon or trainers.

This seem good?

My original description went 5 characters over the limit so had to change it a little, and I'm not sure if I'm using the right variation of it's

or might be using it too much in the pokedex

[hexed fog]

452.101.png and 101.452.png This Pokémon can channel electrical currents into its fists. The bigger the smile, the more electricity is stored.

Hi @cinder stone it looks like you submitted the same entry for two different pokemon. Please pick one of the two for the description, we cannot do both 🙂

[weak osprey]

Just change the 3 "it's" to "its" 👍

[hexed fog]

28.402.png and 27.402.png Often mistaken for a mirage in arid deserts, this odd sight in harsh biomes leaves wanderers confused. In this confusion, POKENAME aims to steal any water rations it can to dry its hide before quickly fleeing.

Hi @old dirge looks like you submitted the same entry for two different pokemon. Please pick one of the two for the description, we cannot do both 🙂

[limber sentinel]

alright I submitted it

[weak osprey]

I'm gonna get one of these messages because I accidentally submitted Furret / Rotom's entry under Sentret / Rotom's numbers and had to resubmit 😅

[hexed fog]

whats the number

[limber sentinel]

Not sure what I could do for Ferrotress though if I want to make it

and not sure if I'll try for it's reverse fusions, Pineseed and Forrethron

[weak osprey]

Furret/Rotom: 162.358
^ Should be abt headphone wires
Sentret/Rotom: 161.358
^ Should be abt discarded appliances

[hexed fog]

gotchu

[weak osprey]

Tysm! Sorry for the inconvenience!

[hexed fog]

oh thats not an issue lol

"It controls all of existence and has a hatred for his parents" is an issue

[weak osprey]

Hahaha

[hexed fog]

https://tenor.com/view/edgy-brooklyn-99-nine-charles-gif-13236508

[weak osprey]

"Its mom tells it to get a job but all it wants to do is play Pocket Monsters"

[cinder stone]

Oh shoot I forgot I did this. I meant it for Electrode/Bewear (101.452)

[hexed fog]

"Her parents brought her to disney world when she just wanted to go to an MCR concert and wear dark black fishnets"

[hexed fog]

gotchu

[cinder stone]

So it’s approved now?

[fair thicket]

ludicolo/bewear be like:
https://uproxx.com/tv/snl-don-cheadle-beck-bennett-barfight-mika-lollipop/
(sorry for the link. this appears to be the only place you can watch the sketch online)

(i was thinking on a possible entry while brainstorming the sprite)

[boreal prairie]

Drowdile

POKENAME picks up on brainwaves with its trunk, and host an impressively strong jaw for their size. Trainers must learn the hard way that young POKENAME follows its nose and explores with its mouth.

Drownaw

Even when an adolescent POKENAME has not yet mastered its empathic abilities, it firmly believe otherwise. It ignores its trainers command if the order contradicts an empathic instinct.

Drowligatr

POKENAME stalks prey along the water’s edge, using their trunks to breathe while hidden underwater. It senses prey’s brainwaves and strikes when least expected.

this is concision suggestion pass, I have some more thoughts

First, I don't think "at this age" makes a lot of sense for a Pokedex entry, since being unevolved doesn't mean young necessarily. So i just inserted a specific age into the description instead.

[weak osprey]

Fair enough 🤔

[boreal prairie]

I think Drowligatr and Drownaw are good pretty much, but I'm grinding away on Drowdile give me a moment to put thoughts to words

[boreal prairie]

Could you explain follows with trunk and explores with jaw?

[weak osprey]

Yeah so have you ever heard that children "explore with their mouths"?

Babies, rather

Since Drowdile can sense what's living (sinse it'll have brainwaves), it instinctively follows this sense to find food

[fair thicket]

smoochum, too

[weak osprey]

These two insticts come together to make a pet that is constant trying to bite you.

Particularly your head.

[boreal prairie]

The mind it senses with its nose, it soon explores with its jaw

[weak osprey]

Sure

That works! :D

[boreal prairie]

Drowdile

POKENAME picks up on brainwaves with its trunk, and hosts an impressively strong jaw for its size. Trainers must learn the hard way that the minds that young a POKENAME senses with its trunk, it soon explores with its jaw.

some redundancy in there still but im a little tired 😴

[weak osprey]

Same haha

It's past midnight for me

Your input has been much appreciated.
I'll look it over once more tmr morning and submit it.

[fair thicket]

you do swap between singular and plural, fyi
so something you can look at in the morning

[weak osprey]

I'm so bad at that 😭

What it usually is is me swapping btwn "it" and singular "they"

So I need to get into to habit of using "it" for Pokémon

anyway goodnight yall 👋

[boreal prairie]

Most of the time when i do concision edits I switch to singular because it will be less characters, but i dont always catch all of the parts that need to swap

[pallid saddle]

Porygon (Self-Fusion)
POKENAME are just slightly less simple versions of their original forms. One POKENAME is said to have raised above the rest, gaining sentience and has been sighted in random parts of the workd.

Could probably repurpose this for a Porygon/Arceus or something

[fair thicket]

🤔 sprite in mind?

[pallid saddle]

Concept yes

[wild spade]

Hi people, first idea here !

A true flying fortress. POKENAME’s thorax acts as a reactor, allowing its massive body to soar through the skies.

[timid sky]

Why do a bunch of Vulpix dex entries talk about it only having one tail when it's young?

Because #1: that's blatantly untrue and #2: it makes writing Vulpix fusion dex entries hard

And then other dex entries claim and starts with six tails and grows more as it grows older

Which I guess is technically true due to Ninetails, but like, could you be consistent

[timid sky]

Ok, I think I've figured out a dex entry:

The leaves on POKENAME's body grow in the moonlight. It has the power to control both plant life and fire at will.

[weak osprey]

Before you submit a dex entry, there already has to be an accepted cystom sprite

[weak osprey]

Turn the first period into a comma and I'd say that that works!

[weak osprey]

Looks good to me!

[timid sky]

POKENAME preys on bug Pokémon. In order to catch them, it wraps its prey in its tail, and then shocks them.

[weak osprey]

I've done a little search through the google sheet and most of the accepted entries say "bug Pokémon" or "Bug-type Pokémon"

There's smth else, lemme try to articulate it

[weak osprey]

This is just a style consideration, but how's this?:

POKENAME uses its root-like tail to capture bug Pokémon. Once in its grasp, POKENAME incapcitates them with a strong electric shock.

Oh wait this has a dangling participle

POKENAME uses its root-like tail to capture bug Pokémon. Once its prey is in its grasp, POKENAME incapcitates them with a strong electric shock.

[timid sky]

Yeah, I like this better

[weak osprey]

Great!

[weak osprey]

Okay so I wrote up entries for the Togepede Square, but I'll break it up so we're only doing one row at a time.

Togepi fusions:
Fairy / Poison
Sprites by togepimax

Togepi / Venipede (175.422)
At first, trainers remark on how aloof a POKENAME can be. With some patience, it will come out of its shell, after which, trainers come to miss when it would keep its poison barbs to itself.
//Venipede's entry describes it as "brutally aggressive."
//Togepi's entry is all abt how it shares kindness and compassion.

Togepi / Whirlipede (175.423)
POKENAME spends most of its time sleeping to conserve the energy that it need in order to grow. Waking a POKENAME is a very bad idea; it will run down the first person it sees until it tires itself out again.
//Whilipede's entry says that it's "Storing energy for evolution"
//"A proverb claims that happiness will come to anyone who can make a sleeping TOGEPI stand up."

Togepi / Scolipede (175.424)
POKENAME is controversial due to its violent outbursts, but its trainers insist that POKENAME can read people’s intensions, only targeting those who wish to do harm. Its alleged powers are not admissible in Kantonian nor Johtonian courts.
//The Togepi line can tell when someone is "pure of heart"
//I'm on the fence with the legal statement in the 2nd sentence.

[regal cedar]

Because it says that in official Dex entries anyways.

[timid sky]

That was my question: why do the official entries talk about it only having one tail

[fair thicket]

maybe it's the poke-universe's equivalent about the thing about lemmings running off cliffs
completely fabricated, but a widespread common misconception

[weak osprey]

Yeah I always forget that the Pokedex can include thing that people think are true but aren't actually

[fair thicket]

heh, well bulbapedia says this:

It is most commonly seen with six tails. However, Vulpix is born with only a white tail that splits as Vulpix grows.

Both its fur and its tails are beautiful. As it grows, the tails split and form more tails.
fractalpus fox
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/96-armed-octopus/
(i'll give a warning for body horror for the link, though. 🤔 "fractalpus" is a great word for it)

[regal cedar]

I mean, why is Kangaskhan hatched from an egg already have a baby? It's just something we don't see.

[fair thicket]

XD where does dhelmise get its anchor?

[weak osprey]

How does every Cubone have its mother's skull? 0 - 0

[fair thicket]

they fight each other for it strongest one gets the skull

[fair thicket]

dammit i could've sworn there was a sprite that's the opposite of this
sad cubone attempting to hug its ghost mom

[weak osprey]

Omg that's so sad wtf 😭

[fair thicket]

maybe this is the closest one?

for the "mom says it's my turn with her skull"

[fair thicket]

that's the dex entry XD

Omg that's so sad wtf :(

[weak osprey]

They have to accept it or else they admit they don't think it's sad.

(/j ofc)

[weak osprey]

LMAO

What are your pronouns btw, Worm? just so I know

[fair thicket]

😇 I only reveal them when it's funny

[weak osprey]

Understood 👌

I'm just gonna they/them you until it's funny then 😅

[fair thicket]

bah. i was going to link this but apparently i didn't clip "Wouldn't you like to know?" but the line after it >.<
https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkx0wOYj-fbVsUtjlrtefRZEllZrGjMuuwr

[craggy beacon]

holy fuck thats creepy lol

[fair thicket]

👍 i gave a body horror warning for a reason, yup

[vast blaze]

I can't seem to get my mind away from the trick to formatting entries like this - I guess a fangame being free means that it doesn't need to pay rent to live in my head.

While it looks like some Minior entries have been accepted, it doesn't appear that there are any cases of even submitted entries for both the core and shell forms of Minior fusions with the same Pokemon. (In fact, there seems to be only one Minior shell entry submitted at all apart from my own).

Here's another version of the second entry without any repeated text, chosen to parallel a SV Minior-core entry:

POKENAME that grow defunct and fall to the ground try to return to the stratosphere to no avail. Their internal energy unleashed, they can only flail wildly before fading away.

Is there any way to submit candidate FAQ questions? I don't think that this conundrum is quite covered by FAQ 7/10 or any of the other FAQ questions.

[fair thicket]

no idea. i've mentioned the possibility of having joke dex entries (given we have joke sprites) a couple times in this thread to no reply, so the best way to get the attention might be to make a #discord-suggestions

[boreal prairie]

I think joke entries can only go on joke sprites

[fair thicket]

see, i wasn't even given that much in terms of a reply 😔

[regal cedar]

Things to avoid/keep in mind for dex entries

-Pop culture references are a no no, even with joke alts. Use vague things like "a mysterious organization" instead of directly referencing Aperture Science, for example.

-Use "it" or "they" to refer to mons, but only stick to one pronoun set in a given entry.

-Full sentences, no fragments.

-[Pokémon] Names mentioned in entries (except for the POKENAME placeholder) should only have the 1st letter capitalized, e.g. Pikachu[, not PIKACHU.]

^As quoted from Frogzilla.

Remember that entries should also be between 100 and 250 characters. There is no wiggle room with the 250 limit.

Capitalization and hyphens

Always capitalize and hyphenate in cases where the typing itself is a descriptor, such as:
• Flying-type Pokémon
• Fairy and Flying-type Pokémon

But you might just capitalize if it is standing alone:
• The Poison type
• The Fighting type

So:
• The Fighting type is very strong
vs.
• The Fighting-type Pokémon Machamp is very strong

But then you won't capitalize if you're not properly referring to the type, but rather to a homonymous term:
• It eats bug Pokémon.
• It is a high-flying Pokémon.
• It has no fear of dragon Pokémon.

As quoted from Frogzilla.

[weak osprey]

Omg perfect

Can this get pinned in this channel? Or is there another place where we could find these rules?

[fair thicket]

see, i would think so too, but one of the first things you see on the spreadsheet is that the following entry has been rejected:

01110101 01101110 01101100 01101001 01101101 01101001 01110100 01100101 01100100 00100000 01101000 01100101 01100001 01101100 01110100 01101000
(translates to "unlimited health")
with the commentary being "joke entry for a joke sprite, unsure"
https://www.fusiondex.org/275.113/

[fair thicket]

think it might have been pinned in the previous thread, so yeah, it should be pinned here, too

[fossil root]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dunno-uhh-i-dunno-spongebob-spongebob-meme-gif-4822817218773590587

[weak osprey]

Lmao good afternoon Techno 👋

I posted a few entries this morning that I'm looking for feedback for
👉 👈

[regal cedar]

Hi @terse pawn , I noticed two different entries on the sheet were under the same sprite. Do you know if this was intended (ie you only want the latest one), or was one of these intended for a different Pokémon?

[vast blaze]

<@&1210701164426039366>
Are there any general principles to keep in mind when writing entries for Pokémon whose forms are split across different dex numbers in PIF? I'm particularly interested in Minior, but this question could be generalized to Pokémon like Oricorio, Necrozma, Meloetta, and other Pokémon whose forms share a single dex number in mainline games, but who still have separate entries there.

For Minior, the fact that not all Minior Fusions will have shields down should mean that, unlike in the games, players of PIF might encounter one fusion without encountering the other (or at least might encounter the core without encounter the shell, which should be impossible or very rare in the mainline). The mainline entries for Minior are independent but sometimes lightly inter-referential, and given that, in most cases, the only difference between a shell Minior fusion and a core Minior fusion is that one has been smacked around enough to lose its outer coating, I don't think that FAQ 7/10 quite cover how much these entries should/can allude to each other.

This message replies to a chain of messages I sent about a particular Minior fusion, before I was advised that there was a role I could ping for assistance. Thank you in advance!

[regal cedar]

I feel like this question will depend on how Minior is treated in-game. At the moment, I would say to try and reflect the sprite, but let us get back to you on that.

[fair thicket]

Currently, frex, both necrozma and ultra necrozma entries are being accepted, but given how U-N is implemented, dex entries won't be visible Well, not unless the player goes out of their way to scroll through the pokedex to find it.

[terse pawn]

Frankly I made a mistake for the first one, and the second ones supposed to be the correct one so

[weak osprey]

I'm stuck between these two entries. Togekiss' entries talk abt it appearing in times of strife and rewarding those who respect people's rights. So I wanted to give that same feeling with this entry, but idk if the 2nd entry is laying it on too thick or not.

Togekiss/Scolipede (269.424) (hero.drawing)
1:
If its trainer abandons their moral principles, POKENAME will abandon their trainer. A stray POKENAME has never been recaptured, but continues its sole mission to protect peace around the world.

2:
There are stories of a hero who brought peace to the Johto region astride a POKENAME. One day this hero's heart grew dark and her steed left her. One is still seen during times of strife around the world, but it's unclear whether it's the same one.

[timid sky]

Definitely 1, as you’re supposed to talk about the species rather than a particular instance of a Pokémon

[weak osprey]

Oh you're right

Thanks!

[craggy beacon]

yeah, 2nd entry would be more fitting for like, a mainline legendary imo

(as in a legendary in the main games, not a fusion dex entry)

[weak osprey]

Fair enough 😅

[weak osprey]

I don't know if "rising star" is the best term to use here. I want to communicate that the Chargon have been improving their fighting skills and aspire to be greater. I used this term in particular because Charmeleon's pokedex entry says "their fiery tails shine at night like stars" and because they literally rise into the night sky.
But I'm not sure if this phrasing is clear / in-line with the normal Pokedex tone.

Charmeleon / Flygon (5.334) (technicolorfez)
In the early summer, these rising stars will follow the moon into the night sky and fight until the strongest evolve. After a swarm was drawn to Mauville City one year, they began limiting light pollution during this time of year.

[fair thicket]

yeah especially with the mention of the moon

[timid sky]

Since the sea lacks leaves for it to eat, POKENAME has turned to a diet of seaweed and moss instead. If attacked, it has the option of either jabbing the attacker with its horn or using its fin to swim away.

[weak osprey]

How abt this?
In the early summer, the rising stars in a POKENAME swarm will follow the moon into the night sky and fight until the strongest evolve. After a swarm was drawn to Mauville City one year, they began limiting light pollution during this time of year.
(248 chars)

[weak osprey]

Saying "attacked" and "attacker" feels a little redundant.
How abt "assailant"? "predator"?

And I don't think it'd be very fast with just one small fin. Maybe you can mention that it can't outrun (outswim?) predators and so it has to resort to its horn?

[timid sky]

This is Horsea's Gold entry
If attacked by a larger enemy, it quickly swims to safety by adeptly controlling its dorsal fin.

[weak osprey]

Fair enough

Those are all of my thoughts abt it. Otherwise I think it's fine as is.

[fair thicket]

unfortunately, i think the use of "rising stars" here would be more confusing than clever
a la "On the day of the marathon, he hit the ground running."

[weak osprey]

Yeah 😔

What term do you think I should use instead?

[weak osprey]

Your example is p funny though I have to admit haha

[fair thicket]

Thanks, heh. I stole it from How Not to Write a Novel
The other example I remember was "The explorer knew her trek would be filled with pitfalls."

[weak osprey]

XD

[fair thicket]

god, something like "strongest contenders"? But that adds more characters and might raise the question of contenders for what
i know I've seen nature documentaries that use terms. what are they

[weak osprey]

"aspiring champions"?

[fair thicket]

might work

[weak osprey]

Thank you to whoever fixed the file number on my recent submission 😅 I'm not sure what it was before, but sorry for the mixup

[boreal canyon]

Anyone willing to give this one a dex ?

[weak osprey]

Oh my 😅

[boreal canyon]

that's why i spoilered it

in case anyone has doubt, it's a seaking/ho-oh

[timid sky]

Bro I've submitted 3 dex entries today, I don't have the bandwidth right now

[boreal canyon]

it's fine, take rest :3

[boreal canyon]

if you want to give it a shot, go for it, but i'll understand if you don't want to x)

[weak osprey]

Lemme think abt it

I don't rly know how to approach legendary entries

[boreal canyon]

i don't know too

that's why i post it here and say "good luck" x)

[weak osprey]

I'm looking at the preexisting Ho-Oh fusion entries on the google sheet rn

In the autumn, Seaking males can be seen performing courtship dances in riverbeds to woo females. During this season, this Pokémon’s body coloration is at its most beautiful.
This is a seaking entry.
This is smth I can work with maybe 🤔

Oh I can have smth abt an extremely rare courtship dance that Seaoh perform

Omg and they make a double rainbow cuz there are two of them

[fallow tiger]

Could I take a shot at it?

On the first day of the first summer of a new century, POKENAME will appear before a trainer with a pure heart and bestow upon them its horn that glows in seven colors. This horn holds its protection and blessings, ensuring the trainer a joyful life.

but i feel it leans too much towards Ho-oh. im unsure.

[weak osprey]

ik I'm biased, but I think my idea encorporates both parts better.

With the rainbows and the courtship dances

[fallow tiger]

it does, truthfully. My entry reads like any other ho-oh entry if you change horn to feather

[weak osprey]

Lemme try to actually write it out

[boreal canyon]

[weak osprey]

Here are two with slightly different takes:
1:
The meeting of two POKENAME is a once-in-a-generation event. Their courtship dance is a breathtaking explosion of swirling colors that is said to result in a double rainbow.

2:
The courtship dance between two POKENAME is a sight to behold. No firsthand depictions of the event exist, for no witness is yet to believe that their medium can do the spectacle justice.

[boreal canyon]

i like two more

[fallow tiger]

two is much more fitting

[boreal canyon]

it's giving more " "

[fallow tiger]

yess

[weak osprey]

Okay lemme workshop it a little bit to see if I can improve the wording.
If you have any suggestions lmk 👀

[fallow tiger]

I tried to incorporate more of seaking into my entry, treating it as more of a legendary : Ancient civilizations judged the shift from summer to autumn by the color of POKENAMEs scales, its colorless body glowing into a vibrant red before making way for other colors. When water catches the light, it looks like a fallen piece of a rainbow.

[weak osprey]

Oooo that's really pretty

[boreal canyon]

love it

[weak osprey]

Okay here's my final draft
On the rare occasion that two POKENAME meet, their courtship dance is a sight to behold. No firsthand depictions of the event exist, for all who witness it claim they could not do the spectacle justice.

Now you must CHOOOSE

[boreal canyon]

[upper loom]

@boreal canyon I set your AFK: Sleeping

[weak osprey]

LMAO

[boreal canyon]

i like it better, sorry fedora