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I might have to get back into this then
You can thank Jimothy Cools video and me seeing your name and immediately beginning a quest to track you down
I should have our 300+ turn game saved on my computer still. I’ll have to find it later
yoo
Rip KyTang
Trust me… I do
Half of covid was spent staring at that thing
lool
Found this, not sure I have our battle tho
It took me so many games to climb higher than it
There were just a lot of not very competitive players on the server and since the pool of people online was so small you could be matched against anyone
right yeah
My old team was:
Clefable Steelix
Kyorge Tangrowth
Zoarark Regigigas
Ho-oh Tentacruel
hmm
idr zoroark regi
It was on one of my teams for sure
my team was kyogregliscor, blisseyweezing, blisseydusclops, kyogretangrowth, sylveonforretress, and i forgot the last one
probably like a steel/flying
Blissclops was probably on my team too
yeah prob
The old server was deleted I guess
yeah long time ago
I definently used to have the link to my old team somewhere
Oh I definitely had a poison heal mon too
Oh it was Gliscor/Regigigas for a bit I think
Yeah I definitely used that
yeah that mon was super strong
regular gen7 ou
lot of new pokemon and a lot of the classic go to stuff is ubers now
Ill have to cook up something
yeah old if power level was through the roof
but if you want to relive that if ubers is a p solid tier
It was so much fun with 5 stall mons. I ran it with choice band too so it was just a secret nuke
lol true
is it normal if most sprites are not available ?
The showdown sprites are always behind (3 months iirc)
Is there a way to play custom games for doubles? I don't see a format. Me and my friends wanna use our teams from a randomizer run of the game but those Pokemon aren't valid for the other doubles formats
you can try chaos fusion doubles custom game
That works thanks
Are weather moves supposed to reset weather after 5 turns after use in IF? I thought weather was permanent 
Weather caused by abilities is permanent
Weather caused by moves lasts only 5 turns
Gen 5 weather is like that too
Oh gotcha, that checks out lol
Do weather items make those effects permanent or do they only go up to the extended 8?
Unfamiliar with gen 5 weather tbh lmao
Only extended 8
Aight word, preciate the intel! 😎 👍
who can help me but sprites are buggy I don't know how to do it
wrong channel
go to #tech-support and be more specific about the issues you're having
-# unless you actually mean sprite issues in showdown specifically ig
i want to know why whene i fuse some pokemon it does a white circle with a question mark and not the sprite
Sets up snow and is fast enough to uhhhhhhhhh
Someone's running Porygon-Z/Noivern without boomburst 💔
Oh wait it’s the aurora veil setter, Aurorus doesn’t learn it
+ it gets volt switch
I always forget __Auror__us doesn't get Aurora Veil, why would it 
Serene Grace is an odd mention, are there other fusions utilising it well apart from Entei/Meloetta? Togekiss doesn't seem to be common (for using serence grace at least lmao) and Jirachi usually wants something else
I wish IF fusion would not have permanent weather, rip hail and sand 
jirachi entei can use it
as well as stuff like jirachi mence/chomp
hi, i'm working on a discord bot to assist with a custom fusion league draft with matches played through pokeathlon, and it's left me with a bunch of questions about how both IF and the showdown server is set up... is this a good place to be asking them? google hasn't been my friend
@fast elm and @pure breach can answer your questions
Hi ppl I have something fun to share
Please let me know what you think of this lead set
Gopardos (Golem) @ Custap Berry
Ability: Sturdy
Fusion: Rampardos
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Explosion
- Sucker Punch
- Stealth Rock
- Rock Slide
438 priority explosion
not great bc your stealth rock can easily get spun on or bounced
If you play bad on your first turn sure
If the enemies starting pokemon has rapid spin you’re probably clicking rock slide to demolish it
If you’re both clicking stealth rock turn one and anticipate a rapid spin turn two, you switch out
A lot of people run damage leads so this thing uses sturdy to get down to one health on turn one during stealth rocks, and explodes with priority turn 2
If enemy starting pokemon has rapid spin or a priority move yeah that’s a concern, anything else gets obliterated by this obscene attack damage
Well actually a lot of common walls resist this and are fat and maybe have regenerator so they just heal off the damage, they spin off your hazards later on and you lost all that progress you made
252+ Atk Golemrampardos Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Slowkingdonphan: 71-84 (18.2 - 21.5%) -- possible 5HKO
yeah not doing v much
i think its a lot of effort youre putting in just to set rocks which in a meta as fat as this usually means its getting removed sooner or later
Non-STAB explosion aint doing too much
252+ Atk Golem Explosion vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Slowking: 316-372 (81 - 95.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
fails to kill lol
this is discounting other hazard controllers like regitres, def slowphan, rhycor, regitu, etc
It’s also failing to account for any steel type just resisting you
Kommbat (Kommo-o) @ Leftovers
Ability: Simple
Tera Type: Dragon
Fusion: Swoobat
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Clangorous Soul
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Boomburst
tested it out and damn does it work
sadly not legal in regular pif ou since simple is banned + clang is gen 8
sleep talk can hit clangorous soul, and its tanky enough with defensive investments to stall out fights
thats pretty silly
Mono normal attack though lmao
?tag mobilealt
Is there any place listing all banned mons/abilities etc?
Simple is banned?
Jezz I feel like the Battle scene will be very much complex than the original XD
Wait dragalge gets adaptability 
Crawdaunt and Dragalge having adaptability
I smell adaptability ban when those get in
It levitates
(probably useless)
All it needs is better bulk, recovery and something to actually do
Link plz

Hey Dusk you're smart
Do you have any idea why Neutralizing Gas isn't in Nat Dex?
I tried checking Kanto Koffing and Weezing and it isn't showing up
Pokemon that exist in IF will only have their IF abilities, even in natdex. Thats why Gengar doesn't have cursed body, only levitate
Certain Pokemon still have their later abilities tho
Like Gallade having Sharpness
Is it like, only Gen 8 abilities are out but some Gen 9 ones slipped through
Thats inconsistent then, make a showdown report
#1175117403219308654
Theres a rpg with duos now and im in search for someone to do the battle part while i Just sprite
It Will be a long event
But you are not doing stuff everyday
what version of protean is in infinite fusion?
7
I’m morbidly curious about what the meta for this is like
Looking at the top pokemon I’m noticing a theme of already good pokemon having abilities or stats they really shouldn’t have
Ik smth that at least used to be amazing is Sylveon/noivern for stab pixelate boomburst and it's great speed
It was a bit too amazing, Boomburst got banned
so amazing i can't use boomburst on kommo-o anymore 🙁
So I’m doing a showdown tournament with friends. And we did a draft type thing for it, OU. I went purposefully for only flying types. What do yall think is the best line up for my six ? I have Gliscor, corviknight, Talonflame, Landorus T, Thunderus T, Galarian Moltres, Mega Pinsir, Skarmory, Honchkrow, and Salamence to choose from
oh going natdex?
salamence isn't that good, but gliscor is king in fusions
moltres is good btw
whether it's for hurricane spam or flame body
They said galarian moltres
That’s the dark type one, not the fire one with flame body
I think they're just thinking like it's normal pokemon
Meanwhile in here, yanmega is a menace
hello , how can i fight my friend in pokemon infinite Fusion ?
send him a challenge. Each of you needs an account, on the top right
ive been waiting for a while either they fell asleep while queuing or fear the sting of defeat
but I cannot bee anymore excited
The Bees
from magic the gathering
You should “bee” using vespiqueen/heatran, it’s cool
exactly
Choice Band Swords Dance, my favorite
They will never see it coming
Also
No U-Turn on anything?
nope
wawa (Reuniclus)
Ability: Color Change
Level: 42
Fusion: Kecleon
EVs: 17 HP /31 Atk / 20 Def / 28 SpA / 8 SpD / 77 Spe /
Docile Nature
IVs: 30 HP / 0 Atk / 17 Def / 22 SpA / 9 SpD / 22 Spe
- Psychic
- Shadow Claw
- Feint Attack
- Psybeam
rofl (Wartortle)
Ability: Torrent
Level: 35
Fusion: Wartortle
EVs: 0 HP /0 Atk / 0 Def / 0 SpA / 0 SpD / 0 Spe /
Bold Nature
IVs: 30 HP / 19 Atk / 6 Def / 8 SpA / 3 SpD / 12 Spe
- Rapid Spin
- Protect
- Water Pulse
- Aqua Tail
AAAAAAAA (Kadabra) @ Twisted Spoon
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 37
EVs: 14 HP /23 Atk / 14 Def / 24 SpA / 4 SpD / 54 Spe /
Mild Nature
IVs: 6 HP / 0 Atk / 23 Def / 9 SpA / 3 SpD / 0 Spe
- Teleport
- Miracle Eye
- Flash
- Psybeam
Jackson (Feraligatr)
Ability: Effect Spore
Level: 41
Fusion: Parasect
EVs: 21 HP /27 Atk / 16 Def / 24 SpA / 8 SpD / 78 Spe /
Brave Nature
IVs: 28 HP / 14 Atk / 0 Def / 18 SpA / 11 SpD / 5 Spe
- Water Pulse
- Crunch
- Venoshock
- Spore
Charizard (Charizard)
Ability: Blaze
Level: 39
EVs: 31 HP /39 Atk / 34 Def / 29 SpA / 11 SpD / 104 Spe /
Jolly Nature
IVs: 27 HP / 18 Atk / 19 Def / 16 SpA / 18 SpD / 27 Spe
- Dragon Rage
- Flame Burst
- Wing Attack
- Rock Smash
Wing (Yanmega)
Ability: Frisk
Level: 39
EVs: 17 HP /28 Atk / 18 Def / 26 SpA / 7 SpD / 79 Spe /
Naughty Nature
IVs: 27 HP / 1 Atk / 15 Def / 10 SpA / 24 SpD / 20 Spe
- Supersonic
- Pursuit
- Ancient Power
- Detect
Rate my team
How can I access the showdown server?

So how do you deal with quiver dancers In this game
The only solution I found was unaware, but even unawares can be broken if the setter is of a specific type
Haze, taunt, roar, dragon tail, strong priority
Some of these would require you to come in and take a hit...
The momentum definitely feels like it's on the dancer's side
Imposter + choice scarf?
Imposter is banned in OU
trick + choice scarf?
Bem que vocês podiam lançar um tutorial né como baixar
What makes a popular spinner popular?
I guess in the case of DonBro, it's knock off, scald, rocks
Amazing typing
longevity.
Since the tier is so bulky, there is a good chance rocks will go up again and again.
Add to that the many spinblockers that use good fusion and evioltiote to also stay in the game for a long time,(clefclops slowblade etc)
Meaning that offensive spinners (like starmie) simply put dont have enough offensive firepower to muscle past common spinblockers, nor do they have the longevity to remove rocks over and over again.
Meanwhile the 3 most common spinners Slowphan Tantress and reunicoal all booast the longevity necessary to be a nuisance for the entire match.
Shoutout to Hycruel which is the only offensive Spinner i know that is effective, but only because they are a dark/poison with levitate giving them a suprising amount of staying power.
Hycruel is especially funny to me
I used to put it in as a placeholder, but then it ended up sweeping teams
Slowphan seems the most popular
And I'm glad to see tantress there, as you can probably see, I'm biased
What worries me about tantress is the lack of spdef
Special attackers are crazy and the number of checks are either limited or case specific
tbf tantress can still tank alot with AV and investment
It also has the advantage on slow pivot
What do you think would be a good team around it
Honestly I was thinking sand and rain
But since drizzle is banned
I guess old faithful tyranther and alakazode might be good to focus around
Is there an IFdexOu usage-chart?
monthly usage stats get uploaded on the pokeathlon discord far as i know
you do know sand is ded too, right?
ive seen a defensive core of umbrepex and tantress.
It had alaode Cheninphox Enetta and i think clefblade.
The interresting thing about it was that the toxeon was running sunny day, which ofc paired nicely with enetta, alaode and the solar power cheninphox.
Why is sand dead
I thought tyranther was able to tank nukes
sand is literally banned
Sand rush is banned
sand stream to be precise
Sand stream is not
nope things changed
Ah I didn't see it in the announcements
hail and sand are dead since last month in Ifdex OU
might be 2 months
it was kinda hail that was the busted one tbf
skill?
what skill? nidoking can just spam specials
Just strong special attacks in general
Most AV Pokémon I saw have low spdef actually
Moltres takes care of almost all of them
obviously a good team wont fold to one mon in an instant.
pivot scald tank special hits, maybe dtail something
never die
obviously loses to strong dragon or fairy special attackd but no mons perfect
guys which channel do i verify in?
Does anyone actually play PIF showdown?
I feel like you'd have time wait hours for a match
Strats are op as hell too
the tier does exist, but it definetly isnt bursting with players especial on times where people geneally are busy with irl stuff (But it is busy during weekends)
bros the pokemon showdown will continue to be updated?
Yes
only when IF has them
IF?
ahh i understand i understand bro
bro shut up
Im gonna boil all of your shoes in a pot full of sewage waste
So
What's the differences between if Ubers and if ag
In terms of Mon used
I'm guessing Ubers has stuff like gliscor arceus
Meanwhile anything goes has sleep and fly shenanigans
Imposter and wonder Guard are probably the main differences
Both are banned in Ubers
Anything else banned?
How do I check?
Baton pass?
Yeah baton pass is also banned in Ubers
idk how to see the whole list but builder will tell you what is banned
Do you know if arcor is still good in ag?
was that mon ever good in ag
i mean comparing to ubers
arcor is good in ubers, right?
well, it's gliscor with arceus' extremespeed
you want to use facade and knock and sd and roost so theres not much room for it
you dont do much dmg with espeed anyway considering 120 fused with 95
yeah, but with poison heal you can't be burned
on top of adding great survivability to it
i meant fusing either of those with gliscor
yeah, but espeed
since most priority moves are physical, it means you want either poison heal or guts if you don't want to risk a burn
Btw @odd kiln
How does that kyupex work?
And kyu is the most defensive option for that?
What about goodra?
Or is it because it's the most offensive option
kyurem has higher mixed bulk
Can't wait to look at the top 10, and it turns out it's all anaconja
ive done that to one of the ladders 
Hey @odd kiln
What do you think of toxic and prankster in general
In if Dex ou
separately or together
toxic is good to punish walls or slow boosting threats.
(Like clefclops)
Prankster feels like a low value ability in the format, stuff like prankster pshot, screens or willow and the like are neat to have, but not much more.
Prankster dbond is a pain tho, not because its good its just annoying
prank encore is a great antioffense tool
toxic on clefclops can be lethal if thats their only check to snorcor or something
Do you think snorcor is the best gliscor fusion? Or is gliscor just too broad to say there's only 1 good fusion for it
generally it is but there are many good gliscor fusions
yo kris
Hello,
Randomizer mode is in the game ?
Or we need to download the mod
And what are the difference between normal and hard mod please ?
This is a general chat for showdown, you'll want to head over to #general
Randomised mode is in the game.
what if theyre talking about randbats 
@long ether
So I'm trying to do the Pokeathlon battle with my friend, does anyone know where the no regulations section is?
Like my growlith knows watergun for some reason
but it won't let me use it on the IF Free-For-All or any of the normal modes
Select custom battle when challenging
Thank you, that worked out :)
Oh wow quiver dance to be banned, finally?
considering the ban friendly history of the tier it is quite likely
Rest in piece Yanmega, no more First Impression Scizor and no more QD
Does that mean Simple will finally be unbanned?
Simple was never banned
You could have always used it (although Bibarel absolutely sucks to have to fuse)
Ah yes, the simple bibarel dnite for those +4 espeeds
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Hey, question! Is there a mode where you can have fusions with any ability? Me and a friend are trying to spice up some battles.
you can do /challenge ifdexou @@@ !obtainableabilities iirc
Hey everyone, I'm planning on hosting an Infinite Fusion draft league in the near future for a group of friends and I, but I'm having a bit of trouble finding resources to do so (mainly a doc cuz I'm not sure where to even begin with custom-making one). If anyone can give me some guidance as to where to find one, that'd be very much appreciated. Thank you!
i haven't seen any sort of doc for a draft league before
There was a doc for one a long while ago that I can get for you but you’ll need to wait a bit for when I get some free time to send it here
that is completely fine, i'm in no rush, my league is happening a few months down the line
i just want to be sufficiently prepped for when it does happen
Sorry it seems that I cannot find it anymore for some reason
It was very old and not that well balanced so maybe it is for the better
hoi hoi
ya export your team?
how i does that?
go to ur team builder
nevermind its worked
what are you doing
playing with playthrough teams?
ya
yeah, both doing solo run
then use Anything Goes so everything is allowed
tho im a bit underlevel but thats fine
ah ok
how i do that?
so If Dex Ag
and what is ur username on pokeathalon
i dont know if i even have one
aiht then just click on my name UnsuspectingEgg and then press challenge
i cant...
why not :(
idk, its just straight up gray and i cant find my password yet never made an account
bruh just make an account
send a screenshot or smth
i dont even know where im suppose to create an account at this point
nothing look like its for creating account
gotta choose another name
bruh...
just add some numbers to the end
lmao
lmao
but yeah, thats not too bad, as long my opponent doesnt have a massive attack stats and a good fighting type move
i havent even gotten leftovers yet
da teambuilder
omg i can do that?
oh damn
yeah i never really dealed with iv and ev
tho i did edited it, kinda curious if its help
bet
welp that was even worst
no u survives 3 hits
yeah i cant do anything again that damn break brick spamming
:)
i mean what do you mant me to do i am a physical attacker
and u spam kings shield
yeah i know, im not exactly finding excuse or shit dont worry
yeah because you're a physical attacker with break brick...?

if i dont spam it to lower your attack, i take 1 hit and its over
raise da level lets fight at 100
its at the top of da screen
god im blind....
bad matchup fr
yeah kinda lol
i could do something if you didnt had break brick but with that...yeah its just over already
well anyway its terribly late for me and i kinda have to sleep before passing straight up out
which im close to ngl...
thoughts on crobat?
kinda unimpressive
its high speed means you want it as a body but its attack is ass.
Might be decent in UU
Its a jack of all trades in a format where thats not needed, theres better pokemon for anything crobat tries to do
Also Volcarona has been freed now
i just got this notification
there thing happen?
theres randbats tours every so often yes
so now that qd is off, is nidoking the only wallbreaker?
well, nidoking and alazode
Hymega and some of the other QDers can still Nasty Plot instead
I think it's funny how some mons like starmie
you want to give out the water type
but it's better fused with the psychic
meanwhile other mons like volcarona, you want to give out the fire, but it's better with the bug
so it's just
well, starmie has a lot of speed and you want more spatk, but since you want to mind for the water type, you end up with a worse fusion
Is there anywhere to check all the banned moves?
what format has no limitations so i can just challenge my friend
it's Gen 7 IF Anything Goes
that isnt an option for me
ah yep got it, can you limit the amount of players?
what do you mean limit, most battles are restricted to 2 people?
yea this wont start till 2 more join
that mustve been it
can anyone confirm if kings rock works with ice fang
kk
hii
hi guys
for stuff thats a mixed fast special attacker
how do yall ev it
170 both atk stats and 170 speed or?
jynx/meloetta is what im usin
you want max speed.
Then id prolly invest more into the higher offensive stat than the weaker one.
but there isnt an excact ratio here
Generally mixed attackers want enough of their worse offensive stat to 2hko the pokemon they want to hit with their coverage move (eg mixed infernape with grass knot) and then the rest in their normal offence, but thats harder here with such a wide pool of pokemon
I’m new here does anyone know what the showdowns are like? Do we battle in game or is it a sever thing
You battle on https://play.pokeathlon.com
I can't find a page with OU rules for fusions like banned abilities/mons/moves or anything else (if there even is any)
Been struggling to find it
ooop found the pin in teambuilding
Might be a big ask, but is there a damage calculator that includes fusions like how there is the showdown calculator?
what if it dosent work
Asking for help for one other thing, is there an existing IF national dex banlist?
Might be a tall ask but if that exists it would be helpful 😅
that like and website say loading time error for me
Seems like something happened to it after it got moved?
wdym how does it work
Because I feel like a lot of mons in if dex are already pretty op so I'm curious about what exactly nat dex changes
limited weather means its unbanned
existence of new gen moves/abils like salt cure, cedge, port
is salt cure even good? It's walled by magic guard and you have to use garg
Like, I used ferronacl, but after a while it stopped being good
I guess pelipper is more useful
i use tyranacl and its fine
mg ignores it but theres not too much of that and it doesnt like getting knocked
and most offensive mgs cant take a hit anyway
I'm guessing that's mostly clefable
so i aam new to show down and dipping ma feet in to it any one can help me with a nice team or tips dm me
Hey, my sprite! (Tangrowth/Forretress)
ye man, I really like tangrowth and I especially love this one in competitive, and it looks good too!
forretress' bulk and spikes and spin and slow volt switch, with growth's regenerator and knock off
Is there any way to play it on GBA or any other console/handheld or something? I wanna play it on my miyoo mini plus
you can play it on most android phones
Or any way to edit/reprogram it to make it compatible for GBA or similar?
Yeah, I know that, but it just isn't the same without the buttons and things and I'm too broke to get myself a steam deck 😮💨😭
it's an RPG Maker game, so it's frankly a miracle it runs on anything other than a computer lol
Lmao, alright
Oh wait this is showdown, huh
that just needs browser access afaik
Yeah 😭
I meant infinite fusion, idk why I'm here bruh 💀
Sorry bro, I'm tired 😭
Been a day
you could try asking in #tech-support but I don't expect you'll have any luck
I don't expect it either but it's worth a shot. Probably been hundreds of people asking the same question anyways
and it's still having problems running, especially when you're running through tall grass
the online though is peak
I honestly quit pokemon for a while because I had so much fun with the online experience I got satisfied
i mean, the the 6 attempts to repgoram or make a sequel from other groups ended in failure/no shows if that tells you something
ok this fusion is handy
https://replay.pokeathlon.com/#&format=2a&replay=chipertails-amunoz-1763500428126
ok, a proper battle
can't wait to hear it's anaconja again
Hey @odd kiln
You're twomil right?
since it's a lot like ag.... what's the ag meta like?
from what I see in your games, shedinja, arceus
shadow tag...
p much
honestly I haven't seen shadow tag in 2 abilities
hi
so
for the tour
dual types arent allowed
or they allowed as long as 1 type is flying
@odd kiln (Sorry for the ping)
theres no type restriction you just have to use only flying types
like as fusion components
oops i missed it 😔
yeah same
both parts had to be flying or only 1
Both parts had to be from flying mons, but the final result didnt have to be a flying type (someone was using a zapdos/noivern which was electric/dragon)
Holy crap, I just keep finding new channels to chat in
Is anyone here a math nerd? I have something that needs double checking.
Hello?
Scratch that
Yeah sadly this channel isn't very active
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between xreaperfrl and qeterest! Format: [Gen 9] Random Battle; Date: Dec 8, 2025
With an ostrich
🤣
@elder agate heyyyyyy
Which channel is this man 
secret section of spdisc
ok opened
click on choose name and put on a username for you to use (no need to log in)
click on find a user
and type in te4mst4rboris
because that is. my username. shocker
itll open a little challenge tab
uhh u there?
yih i sent it
shush my mom came in my room
oh ok lol
WHY IS IT FASTER
IT SHOULDNT BE??
L
oh is it a speed boosting item
it isnt
hm?
ill be afk for a little bit, do you mind?
nah
english quiz lol
that aint a bit
but hey
sure, why not
just ping me here once ur back i'll mute the tab
oki
welp, i'm done with the quiz
it was shit, my answers were right and they didnt count because of periods and uppercasae leters
i was supposed to only miss one
@elder agate heyyyy
dots come hereeeee
dw
i cleaned up a sprite
kill my team already this crawdaunt gonna be a problem
e
it's a MONSTER for some reason???
what categ is it
idk
thats so sad
not that high probably because of elgendaries and such ig
i might end up in second place instead of first for it :(
for REAL
(my last poke was a spidops thank god my crawdaunt didnt die)
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between fkjofweofweifbou and te4mst4rboris! Format: [Gen 9] Random Battle; Date: Dec 10, 2025
dont complain bru u started out with a GIRATINA
looking back i prolly shouldve switched to talonflame first turn instead of doing poltergeist
but in my defense i dont know moves and forgot rillaboom had dragon dance
swords dance
the brave bird spam was such a funny turnout
oh swords dance* mb
oh nooo
wanna go again or smth
class
ah
Trying PIF Showdown for the first time rn :3
anyone wanna battle on showdown?
Hello! Wanted to do some Lurantis heads sprites that would also be somewhat viable to use in a competitive fight, so I wanted to ask here!
I don't remember if contrary is banned in OU, and don't even know if maybe Lurantis is better as a body lol
Contrary is not banned and Lurantis is best as head, but all of the most used Lurantis fusions have already been sprited unfortunately.
You also don’t really see Lurantis much in general since its best Contrary move, V-create, is banned
I see... I'm not against spriting already done fusions, but I appreciate the help either way
tbh im taking a break from lurantis I don't even know why I asked this 0_0, I guess once started is hard to stop!
If you want viable non-Lurantis OU fusions to sprite there are plenty waiting
Like Latias/Probopass, Hydreigon/Meloetta-P, Magnezone/Entei
ok so let's prepare for that 2 abilities thing
I personaly apricate you posting these montly leaderboards , gives me some insight on what is good/often used.
Thank you, but you should really thank Aevilok, he’s the one who actually makes the charts
I just share it over here in this server
@wooden marsh , Thank you for making the Usage charts each months
you're welcome! soon I'll also post the ones from previous months in #showdown-announcements
👀
It would be so nice to have Gothitelle in IF. The ability Competitive would be nice to use. Youre not hindered by the threat of burn since its a Sp.Atk boost, unlike defiant.
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milotic is a better user of that due to higher spa and better typing
is it higher spa idr
Thats so true, sadly not in IF dex though
5 more spatk, but better typing and recover
Would love to try competitive battles
i haven't really played showdown of it yet
just messed around with nat dex combos lol
that works out so perfectly for booster energy...
that it's actually insane
i wanna make fusions of the paradox counterparts now for my game lmao
since i have stuff like breeding new species already
and call them Dichotomy pokemon in their category
like imagine
is there a tier list for good pokemon to fuse with for showdown? I wanted to get an idea on where to start
There’s this
sheer force +life orb nidoking, magic guard x2, defensive wall with eviolite, toxapex super wall
or im asuming thats why those mon are in the s tier
i got no clue, only saw nidoking being s because of sheerforce + move pool
with life orb , its a 60%? power boost on affected moves , and no recoil.
its possible
mmm
how do you superwall with toxapex?
i dont know about it
i look at its stats
?tag calcs
These are our two officially supported Fusion Calculators. Please remember that Tech Support cannot help with any issues on the fusion calculators! If you are having issues or have questions, go to Infinite Dex Thread or Fusiondex Thread depending on which site you are using!
https://infinitefusiondex.com/: Good for looking at stats, locations, movesets, and type matchups, as well as looking at the inverse fusions side-by-side.
https://www.fusiondex.org/: Good for looking at sprites and fusion names. Also includes stats, but no comparisons.
Doublade is up there because its the bulkiest ghost thanks to eviolite
Generally you want a more useful ability, Salamence/Doublade uses intimidate
Well that and because it gets access to Spectral Thief when fused
If emax eternatus could have any ability what would be the best ability held item combo, as a theoretical
68
You actually only need to boost either defence or spdef, since you can overflow one of them and take 2 damage from every physical or special move
Eviolite works if any of the one pokemon is not fully evolved right? It's fine if the other is?
or does it need both pokemon to be not fullt evolved
The former, as long as one is not fully evolved, Eviolite will work
Perfect
IF OU Usage stats for all months till now (April - November):
IF Ubers Usage stats for all months till now (September - November):
IF NatDex OU Usage stats for all months till now (September - November):
(Announcement about them coming soon!)
oo, thank you
in which format i have to play?
is light stone useable if pikachi is in the fusion + is it legal
along with that where are the banned stuff
that is unfortunately quite outdated
you can, but it is usable only in Ubers
the most up-to-date way to get the banlist for the main tier (OU) is to type /tier gen7ifdexou in the pokeathlon website (https://play.pokeathlon.com/)
oh wel, maybe someone should inform a mod to change it then?
sounds like a good idea yeah
Ruleset - Standard, Evasion Abilities Clause, Z-Move Clause, !Species Clause, Sleep Moves Clause, Infinite Fusion Mod, IF Move Legality, No Event Moves, !Obtainable Abilities, Species Reveal Clause, Fusion Species Clause, !Nickname Clause
Bans - Mega, Uber, item:kingsrock, item:razorfang, item:lightball, item:thickclub, ability:arenatrap, ability:shadowtag, ability:speedboost, ability:disguise, ability:imposter, ability:hugepower, ability:wonderguard, ability:drizzle, ability:drought, ability:sandstream, ability:snowwarning, move:batonpass, move:shellsmash, move:bellydrum, move:geomancy, move:doubleironbash, move:spore, move:boomburst, move:vcreate, move:electrify, move:quiverdance, pokemon:greninjabond, pokemon:greninjaash
wrong chat
just a small question since im kinda interested in trolling my friends, what would be a devious team to make without restrictions
no barred pokemon abilities and moves or such
hello
Is it down?
wonder guard stuff and chansey ditto probably
mmmm
use specthief to beat setup and hit ghosts
hey trying to 1v1 my friend after we just beat the 1st gym but showdown is rejecting the team i imported. Is there a specific mode to click?
moves learned by npc, and my lvl 5 butterfree and ninjask is banned as well
and many othersd
do i substitute wailord for gigalith or baxcalibur
just did a draft in my personal cord
That would depend on the rest of your team
Though Baxcalibur does seem a lot better in a vaccuum if points arent an issue
is there a format that lets any thing happen because Im importing my team strait from the game but its saying its invailed
Select AG format
Usage stats for the latest month!
If we had a UU, a third of OU would drop every month
we do actually, but we just do manual tiering :P
Oh right, isn't it based on the fusion components rather than the fusions themselves?
yup, it is
hello
Hi, how do i participate in the showdown games ?
So some sprites arnt loading in
How can I fix that
I dunno if it’s something to do with it asking if I wanted to add new sprites in when I loaded it up
I restarted it and it seems ok now
are these 2 channels somehow cursed? ever since I unmuted them I see them pop-up with unread messages but there's nothing here
Same, maybe someone keeps sending messages and deleting them?
spam bots send messages to every channel and mods delete them
Nah it's totally ghosts
do they have IF randbat tourneys on the pokeathlon?
We do yeah, there are daily randbat tours, some of them IF
It just sucks that trying to queue for a battle takes like 5-10 minutes 😒
how to join this game?
it is hosted on the pokeathlon website!
We also have a quick new player's resource, I don't think I've posted it here:
https://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/9rdl2-F9vmW7
(it will one day become a role compendium one day)
How does showdown work is it in the game?
Hey guys what format do i need to use to get my pokemon to fuse on showdown
It's on pokeathlon
in randbat i had a steel type with poison heal and toxic orb, is that a bug?
Ye paste the replay/screenshot here and I’ll forwards it to randbats reports in Pokeathalon server
oh i didn't save it :/ it was ferrothorn/gliscor if that helps
new to showdown/competitive in general and learning more about it, playing around with this for fun, things i'm noticing
-smeargle seems absurd
-mixing meloetta with herself yields interesting results and i wanna use them on my team
Depends on the format you're talking about, but Smeargle in IF isn't actually that crazy when it comes down to it, because fusing pokemon already gives any pokemon nearly infinite access to moves or abilities, so the things that make smeargle so special aren't special anymore
With Spore being banned, that is
any that starts with IF, they're the first ones
you'll have to go on our showdown though, not the regular one
https://play.pokeathlon.com/ from the channel's description
Thank you!
how do I play in pokeathlon with a friend? my pokemons are from a randomlock but I dont know which format let me play with my team
example
try AG
Also might recheck who holds amulet coin there
it tells me about the fusion of charmeleon with water gun
Fastiodo and Spinacio doesnt have evs, you have to add one in the stats so that showdown can read it
yea dunno. It says it doesnt learn "water gun" idk if its a game to showdown mistranslation or it just dont allow it
you can change it to a legal move ig?
I think the best one for you would be "IF Custom Game"
Here are screenshots of me Challenging our automation bot to an IF custom game match
either of these two probably works for you
i dont know why it doesn’t appear to me😔
Custom games don't show up in the ladder or teambuilder, only when trying to challenge someone
how does fusing with megas work like would this florges keep the mega steelix stats in battle?
Iirc Megas have to hold their stone AND be the head, but I might be misremembering
ty
thats dumb, favors special megas
It’s because there’s a weird bug with mega bodies reverting to non-mega stats when sent out to battle
It will one day be fixed
thats not a weird bug it was made as a bug fix to the original bug though depends on what you think is supposed to be intended
How to play showdown?
It’s linked in both the pins and channel description
Granted that’s for Fusions showdown, so it’s different from the regular Showdown
Well considering they’re in the fusions server I would hope they’re looking for the fusions showdown
Team builder.
Thanks
Anyone wanna play a game? I have 12 tabs of IF up, each in Oak’s lab, ready to pick a starter
We each look at our 6 rounds of starters and pick 2 of the 3. But each starter duo we pick, we must fuse together
Then after we pick our teams, we fight in a bo1 (or bo3 for fun) and winner gets…idk…bragging rights or smth
Anyone?
hello
Anyone interested in joining my Randomized Pokemon InfiniteFusion Tournament? *need at least 2 players
*How the Tournament works?
You start your journey like any other, you collect 6 pokemon and face the gym leader but after the gym, YOU TAKE ON YOUR RIVALS. Every match is recorded as your individual record and creates your placement in the standings! The more matches you win the higher you climb on the standings! and after the 8th Gym the standings will be set. Take on the Elite 4 and once you do, your team is locked and submitted for the "playoffs" of this Tournament! Do you have what it takes to win the gold? (Yes a real Trophy) Compete in this years Pokemon Infinite Fusion Tournament and see if you got what it takes!
please DM me if interested, ill have more info (Rules, Availability, ect)
A
does anyone wanna battle? I’m trying to use my random run team against other cool teams
How does showdown calculate weight for fusions?
average of the two
friendly reminder to never listen to anything AI has to say
How does showdown work
you should go to the website and check it out!
click on the big Teambuilder button to make a team and get started, then the big Fight button to try and find a battle (it might take some time to find one, depending on how many people are online and trying to battle at that moment, but it will)
or you can also skip building a team and just choose to have a random battle
how do I win
By being pure of heart
heart of the CARDS
i draw alaode which allows me to destroy your monster cards
no way, first game i ever does and i make my opponent rage quit-
is there any way i can upload the sprite to pokeatholon?
its in the game but not in the showdown
No, you’ll just have to wait
bit hasty innit, gotta get gen 10 first
wdym no fun banning this stuff actually makes the game more fun
It's for singles, you'll find it as "IF Literally 1984" but it's going to become available next time the server restarts
Until then build with the IF Ubers tier and you can swap it out when it becomes available
Okay, cool. Thanks
would power trick shuckle be allowed? or trick room? (mostly in reference to the speed bypass clause in some of the rules) and what about moves than can reach past 140 bp but are not natively so? (like fury cutter or echoed voice)
Power trick and trick room are both allowed for everything, including things like spore + trick room
Moves that aren't 140+BP in the team builder are allowed, except for Facade, which is banned if you're also running a status orb for your item
repost from general, I am looking for some advice building a niche team built aroung farigaraf and pholteaghiest with teatime
I have a lot of special attackers, and want a replacements for a few that could work with teatime also, but need more physical attackers and wanna ditch a follow me magmar that isnt quite pulling weight
is this for natdex doubles?
yeah
the idea is to get cud chew to trigger spatk berry 2 times and boost my firageraf into a sweeper
so far, i do have the main lead, but i was running sub par on the back 4/2 that i didnt know what to do with
what does custom avatar mean? the reward is an avatar?
Yeah like the trainers you see you and your opponent have every battle
You get your own custom one if you win
does eruption count as a move with higher than 150 bp
It should since it starts at 150 bp
This rules set seems to be just make the strongest beat them down team.
does using technician with a 30 or lower BP move count as doubling the offensive stat?
Nope
Hey does "trapping" in the rules indicate abilities like Arena trap which prevent switching or field hazards like stealth rock
@wooden marsh
Wait should I not ping them..? I don't wanna ghost ping so I'll leave it
No worries, feel free to ping whenever! No Trapping bans specifically arena trap, magnet pull, and shadow tag
As well as the moves Block, Mean Look, Anchor Shot and Spirit Shackle
..
There's also one other thing--does the ruleset apply only on teamsheets? Like what if I found a way to break a rule during the battle that only breaks the rule during the battle
Yup, if it bypasses the teambuilder it's fair game
Like if a mon with spore didn't have a speed boosting method but was given one in battle?
That's fair game
Darn...
Actually I'm gonna delete that message
It wouldve been a Funny way to shut down any viable stat booster
Including berries
Heh would be quite fun if it worked but unfortunately the entire metagame is teambuilder-based
Yeah I gotchu
Thanks for the clarification
also just noticed simple beam isn't integrated, what a shame
hey where i can find IV judge
This is for showdown, not in-game stuff. Go to #gameplay-help instead
Guys, there is anyway to fight with other people playing the game? Maybe after completing it. The only way is only through showdown?
I just downloaded it and don't know a lot about it
same question here
Nop, only way is through showdown
Thank you!
If anyone is down for testing 1984 teams I'm in the 1984 matchfinder
but to add to this, technicly you can take the code to copy your team and put it in showdown, so of your friend and yourself play the game you can kind of fight with each others team (its someone on the second floor of every poke center)
Posting this here cause it'sore related to this than sprinting
...
Wolfey how?
https://x.com/i/status/2030405738929979499
should I combine my charmander with a weedle
should i combine my ursaring with dragonite
How do i play pif in showdown
Oh well this will do for now,
Let's find someone in Ubers now 
showdown-general lights up
no messages
showdown-general lights up
message about no messages
alaode is too scary how do I beat it
Hey there was a question in RPG chat, why are Kangaskhanite, Gengarite, and Medichiamite banned exactly. Theyre already banned by proxy of the abilities they grant being banned no?
Exactly so when you mega you’ll have that banned ability automatically
Ah. So its a work around. Got it
The other thing I am questioning thats just me. Why ban shell smash and baton pass? Surely just banning simple would be easier and do the job better no?
Shell Smash is broken regardless and Batom Pass passes stats which is also broken whether or not it’s simple
I get baton pass, but theres quite a bit of counterplay for shell smash. Still, I'm trusting your knowledge here. Just know it seems strange.
There’s counter play but She’ll Smash correctly and you force a death and force their Unaware to come in which since all Unawares are low in stats makes it easily to break through them and then Haze and such requires Prankster to not die immediately and then. You can easily get chipped down from your constant hazing and taking hits and hazards
do note that there are some crazy shell smash mons in infinite fusion, e.g.
No clue why Frog decided to add a shell smash move tutor
hey i gotta question
i'm using Brute Bonnet/Scyther for #1443366284195791019 and I have a Booster Energy
is Technician better than Protosynthesis? i'm noticing that Brute Bonnet gets a lot of special moves even though its highest stat is Atk. i unfortunately don't know how to set up the calculation ^_^;;
If EVs are customisable, you have the option of running either booster speed or attack with Protosynthesis (or either defences or spattack if you feel like it) so its better in that regard, however Technician bullet seed and dual wingbeat is really good
Both are fantastic
If Spore isnt banned then booster speed Spore is uhhhh certainly a thing
Fast Spore in general is very a thing
guys how i do battles without rles?
AG formats
how do i play this on showdown?
What means dex ou, dex ubers, dex uu, dex ru, dex ag, wich one is the normal one?
OU is the "normal" one,
Dex = Pokedex (so "IF Dex" tiers are using the Infinite Fusion Pokedex, while "NatDex" tiers are using the National Pokedex = all pokemon from all 9 gens)
OU = OverUsed (these are the pokemon that are used the most
UU = UnderUsed
RU = RarelyUsed
Ubers = the pokemon banned from OU for being too strong. This is mostly the legendaries
AG = Anything Goes, here you can find the pokemon/moves/abilities/whatever that are too strong even for Ubers, like Wonder Guard Shedinja fusions
Is there throat spray ingame
No, you can only use that item in natdex formats
I see thanks
Was looking at the OU statistics, i assume this is Meloetta Aria/Slowbro and it doesn't have a custom?
yep
Yup if they don’t have a fusion in the icon they don’t (or didn’t at the time) have a custom sprite
Anyone down for a match?
What is the announcement in #showdown-announcements ? Like a tournament or something like that?
It is a lobby tournament being hosted for the format announced in 11 days yeah
Is there an inscription?
Inscription? 
Like a register for playing the tournament
Or you just have to be there the tournament's day
no no just log on to https://play.pokeathlon.com/ a little bit before it starts and you're free to join
Okay okay, thanks!!
will ogerpon come into the game?
peak
six seven
That’s one of the Hidden Power types like how the multi-type hidden powers exist
And HP Fairy
Are there lists of banned moves and abilities anywhere for all the formats? Specifically IF Dex OU and doubles OU
Nvm found it
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who the hell was queuing with honchkrow lucario in january 2025
no no that was last month
omg i remember azurill dragonite lol
that was the funniest thing that people used for a bit
before huge power got banned
reason why huge power is banned and not Azumarill
Sandtei was a funny mon
my fave remains this one, personally
sand rush fimp 
was super useful against the water/grass rain setters that were everywhere
dude funny enough, i made that chandelure/porgyon-z fusion not even knowing it was one of the top comp fusions
made it cus of its amazing adaptablity and typing
and decent movepool
Hell yeah it's quite a nice combination of traits
Saw Meloetta Aria/Slowbro and Feraligatr/Meloetta Pirouette didn't have a sprite. Made them if any1 wants to use them without waiting for them to get indexed
everyone but grenetta 
or greninja/necrozma 
but hell yeah nice
love the sprites
once they're in the packs and in the game I'll write dex entries for them like I've been doing for other OU Pokemon
Hell yeah!
I've actually compiled a list of the "most wanted" fusions in usage stats without sprites, so if people are interested in it maybe we could organize something
No one in UU ?
sick
Whats the game link?
Why aren’t the sprites on showdown updating?
They update them every 3-4 months since that’s a separate process and not a high priority
i like the sprites today i hope theres an option to keep it
Can one explain me
Te problem
"But when I launched it for the first time, I could see Charmander in the fused Pokémon (starter), but not the other Pokémon. And when I try to change my clothes, it doesn't show anything, I stay blank." Who can explain me
april fool
This would be a lot of fun to contribute to! Have you posted the list anywhere?
Hell yeah! Not yet, but I'll soon be making the usage stats visualization for march and I can post this alongside it
Reminding you of this as it seems like you forgot.
I do have it in mind, just wanna prettify it first
Got it 
Sorry to bother
no worries!
#tech-support this channels for showdown though dk if theres support for mobile
hi guys
I wanna ask something
what is Moltres's best fusions with starter Pokemon?
Competitively or for a playthrough?
Could you please tell me which site is for PvP?
probably greninja
how active are the if showdown servers? whenevever I go to play I find no one else is online and I cant find a match
Heavily depends on the time of day unfortunately. I find it's usually most active about 6 hours from now
It's pretty silent while the 2 americas sleep
ahhh i see, thanks for the tip
is there a way to reset ur W/L?
make an alt
ive been asking dunscy about this but he hasnt done it bc he Hates me
Thats a question better suited for #playthrough-talk , is it a regular playthrough?
all the new megas ain't gonna be in if dex so play natdex 
what is showdown?
yeah its an online battle simulator where you can build teams and fight other people with them
1v4 chansey
i come bearing sprite delivery https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1492185610746724553