showdown-general

[vivid junco]

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This is mine

[true wedge]

30 W and 16 L (Although I have accumulated 2 more L's since that screenshot lol)

[vivid junco]

Nice

[astral yoke]

Probably this. I stole it from someone else, and it hasn't left my party since

[inner jasper]

Im happy where my current team has gotten me. Went like 10 and 2 today.

[vivid junco]

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[inner jasper]

Just wish I remembered my passwords for the two different Eb_the_Scholar accounts I had made XD

[vivid junco]

This is my anti meta pick

[astral yoke]

too bad it's natdex only

[proud stump]

mind if i est trial that and use it?

[odd kiln]

looks unoptimal

[astral yoke]

You can, but just know how to use it. It's a defensive pivot with access to Sticky Web

[vivid junco]

Nat dex has been rrally fun when I don't face mega stall

[proud stump]

alright thank you

im tryna test some team members

also did entei stop lerning espeed?

[astral yoke]

yes

It was originally an event exclusive move, which PIF doesn't have

Entei no longer having ESpeed hurt me so much...

[proud stump]

same

[astral yoke]

I do have a replacement, but not having Sacred Fire or V-Create sucks...

[proud stump]

this still puts in work tho

[inner jasper]

Cant decide which is more useful, so here is my anti-setup duo. One for hazards the other for sweepers.

[odd kiln]

antisetup that cant heal itself effectively

[astral yoke]

Using this myself, since i needed something with ESpeed

[proud stump]

i still got ambipom

[proud stump]

thats one i havent seen

[astral yoke]

Same role and slightly better stats than with Entei, but sacrificing V-Create or Sacred fire for Flare Blitz sucks

[proud stump]

yeah

[inner jasper]

Yeah that's an interesting one.

[astral yoke]

Also no Earthquake/Stomping Tantrum

[proud stump]

ambipom is actually so brocken

[astral yoke]

Best physical ground move is Bulldoze

[outer tusk]

no custom sprite though

[proud stump]

eq?

[proud stump]

idm about custom tbh

[fast blade]

????????

Fr?????

[vivid junco]

Yep

[fast blade]

2x STAB Espeed

[fast blade]

That breaks my heart

[astral yoke]

It doesn't get EQ

[fast blade]

You gotta run mold breaker on sticky web users my guy cmon

[astral yoke]

Don't need to when Magic Bounce users are usually weak to Dark Pulse. I predict the switch

Also, sometimes i just u-turn after switching

It's bulky enough to take like 3 hard hits

[proud stump]

ohh

[fast blade]

Ya know if aurorus had it's typings switched it could be good

[astral yoke]

It really would... Know what else would make it better? Aurora Veil

[proud stump]

also with this wouldnt band be better?

[fast blade]

Yeah

[astral yoke]

It's on my Sun team where sometimes i need to use Flare Blitz instead of ESpeed, so it needs the speed

[proud stump]

ohh

[sullen ore]

my banded enchomp loved that

[fast blade]

We should petition the devs to have them swapped. Just make Ice the primary type and it would be good considering it's head stats of 123/99/92 are amazing

But if you want the ice type you need the body and it's stats for that are 77/72/58

It's almost as if it was created for the sole purpose of being bad in this game

[sullen ore]

curse of ice rock type 🧊🪨🧊🪨🧊🪨🧊🪨🧊🪨🧊🪨

[astral yoke]

Already been petitioned. It's up to them now whether to switch. It was also proposed for Noivern, but i think Noivern's current typing is fine

[sullen ore]

avalugg-hisui is ice as the primary type, so if it was in then its better stats wouldnt be ice either

that typing can simply never be allowed to win

[fast blade]

Oh really? Do you have a link to the ask?

Cuz it's such a simple fix to make it an amazing pokemon

[astral yoke]

You can discord search some terms i guess? Many ppl have pinged and asked mods to switch it around

It's not a change.org page if that's what you're expecting

[fast blade]

That one came to mind pretty early on, the two pokemon have incredible synergy with each other

[fast blade]

I mean whatever the discord equivalent of a petition is lmao

[outer tusk]

for whatever reason, high jump kick is illegal on it

[astral yoke]

#game-suggestions message
#game-suggestions message

If this is what u mean

[fast blade]

Lmao 47-1 votes wow

[proud stump]

im on a huge losing streak

[outer tusk]

I just came across a wobbufett/ditto with imposter

scary

[proud stump]

oh god

im playing one now

[white oar]

"nice setup"

[opal fiber]

It's the one thing wobuffet is good for

[white oar]

cap

[opal fiber]

(I would know cuz I reverse swept someone with wobto)

[proud stump]

whata your user?

in game

[opal fiber]

theeggoverlord iirc

[proud stump]

oh yep

i do0nt think ive versed you

does wobto use choice scarf?

i assume so

u won anyways

guys is this fr?

why he ff like that

[wheat anvil]

Try to sent a message in Bug section but it does not allow me Anyway Seems aggron line gets quiver dance Is this Normal?

If nkt could someone report it?

[short marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[opal fiber]

BIG STALL

[white oar]

see what I mean

[proud stump]

what are the odds of a tripple flinch with no abilities or items?

[opal fiber]

What move was used

[vivid junco]

Yeah unaccesible tm ingame

Gn

[proud stump]

dark pulse

[odd kiln]

.2^3=1/125

[proud stump]

goddamn

[outer tusk]

ambi/dragonite has been good so far

[proud stump]

yeah

its a good mon

im suprised more people dont use it

[true fiber]

I’m just wondering why he has a ferroseed one instead of chansey or blissey

[white oar]

chansey and blissey are banned from OU

[true fiber]

Ah

[white oar]

way too good a head slot to be balanced

[true fiber]

That would make sense lol

Wobbufett?

[white oar]

best HP and solid SpDef is incredibly strong

wobbufet passes the bar

[opal fiber]

Wobuffet only has good HP and nothing else

[white oar]

just not popular due to it not having much else

[opal fiber]

So it's allowed

[true fiber]

Well, it doesn’t need much else when fused to Toxapex tbf lol

[white oar]

typing would be psychic poison

thing is weak to ground

eh it's solid actually

[proud stump]

tbh chansey > Blissey

with eviolite chansey is better

[white oar]

yeah

[true fiber]

Yup

[white oar]

not that it matters

both are banned

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[proud stump]

fr

[white oar]

dont get how blissey gets the ban but dusclops doesnt

might be complaining about the wrong issue

yeah I take that back

[proud stump]

mid i think we are the only ones running the ambi set

[true fiber]

Poison/psychic or psychic/water for wob

[proud stump]

dusclops should ahve the same treatment as chansey imo

[true fiber]

Also shadow tag lul

[white oar]

eh

shadow tag is banned

[proud stump]

banned in ou

[true fiber]

Ah

Makes sense

[white oar]

dusclops can only really run one set and ghost isnt phenomal defensively

plus knock off means it's p' much over

plus with OU's power level it can still be broken due to its lack of recovery

[true fiber]

You get soooo much defense with eviolite tho

[white oar]

feel like blissey, not chansey, should get prospecting for OU tbh

[white oar]

power level

thinking pixilate dragonite and other broken hitters

[true fiber]

Yeah, no hp

[white oar]

that's not what I meant

it's that the power level is so absurd that the defense is insufficient to stay alive

[true fiber]

Is there a world where a contrary Tox/Shuckle finds success?

[white oar]

no

shuckle is banned

[true fiber]

Ah

[wheat anvil]

What worries me is blissey plus ditto (as ditto is not banned)

[true fiber]

Shame for that

Bug/water is actually an ok defensive typing

[white oar]

true

[true fiber]

Mainly just not too many weaknesses

Though they’re fairly common ones

[white oar]

bug steel lol

[true fiber]

How common are screen and such?

Cuz this chandelure/dusclops with infiltrator looks kinda tasty to me tbh.

[proud stump]

pretty common atm

[true fiber]

With eviolite

Or flame body

Instead of infiltrator

Makes it pure ghost

Main issue is just slow

[proud stump]

true

i just reverse sweeped

[true fiber]

But you get a lot of coverage moves

[proud stump]

caffeines arcanine puttin in work 🙏

[white oar]

really?

dude I havent ran into any

[proud stump]

im going up agaisnt alot of reflects atm

[white oar]

huh

[true fiber]

Flamethrower/overheat, shadowball, energy ball, ice beam, charge beam if you really want “boltbeam”

[proud stump]

a couple light screens too

[white oar]

was running an aurora veil thing a while ago

dude pre gen 9 hail/snow is so ass

[true fiber]

lol

[proud stump]

fr

[white oar]

got my ass kicked

[true fiber]

Literally only useful for running blizzard

[white oar]

I had some measure of success

but the setter was so weak that I couldn't do enough

what's yalls take on the speed boost ban

[true fiber]

Good idea imo

Makes speed a non-consideration too easily

[proud stump]

idm i dont use speed boost anyways

[white oar]

fair

[true fiber]

Which in-turn makes things like scarf useless.

So that’s another marginal power creep.

[proud stump]

fianlly back in top 100

also how do you tie 💀

[true fiber]

Speaking of speed

What’s like a good speed tier to hit atm?

Cuz I imagine it’s not power crept as much as S/V is atm

[proud stump]

350-400+

wait what mode?

[true fiber]

Ok, it’s just as crept lol

[white oar]

that's fair

[true fiber]

In OU, since that’s what we’re talking about lol

[proud stump]

oh yeah id say that

cause alot of scarfs and super fast heavy hitters

[proud stump]

eg sylvavern

[true fiber]

I was looking at possibly doing Yanmega with something. Already had Chandelure up.

Only 90 speed tho

But 135spa

Either infiltrator or tinted

[proud stump]

yanmega hydreigon is really good

sub qiverdance roost and oblivion wing

[true fiber]

I keep on forgetting about the move availability lol

Is that available just on every dark/flying or what?

Also, I assume Dark Pulse for last just cuz coverage

And either big root or leftovers?

[proud stump]

i belive so

leftovers

[true fiber]

This seems decent for the unlimited one.

[proud stump]

spatk>atk on it tbh

[proud stump]

best ive ever been

[proud stump]

top 50 rahhh

[white oar]

man I just lost a game to several bad rolls and a 50/50 read

and 4 sleep turns

[proud stump]

damn rip

[white oar]

I hate spore prankster

pokemon that lost me that game nearly got oneshot and held on by 5%

and the same pokemon who low rolled also slept for 4 turns

was not their day

[astral yoke]

Did u not have any dark types or grass types ready?

[white oar]

I did have a grass type

not really why I lost entirely

[astral yoke]

Here is a list of Prankster Spore counters

• Have a dark type pokemon (they're immune to prankster)
• Have a grass type (immune to spore)
• Magic Bounce
• Have safety goggles (we all know u guys only care about choice items anyways so i doubt any1 uses it since Prankster Spore isn't very common)
• Have higher priority (or same priority but higher speed) and hit harder (ESpeed Dragonites and Fake Out Ambipoms)

[white oar]

this turn here

switches in

barely lives the play rough

spores me

4 turns

this shit made me wanna kms

[astral yoke]

if u see Umbcott, u know it generally has access to 4 possible actions:

• Prankster status moves (blocked by dark types)
• Prankster support moves like Light Screen or Tailwind (Umbreon no longer learns Reflect)
• U-turn / Hard switch
• Random attack move that will likely do jack shit to you

[white oar]

final turn of the game, was forced to pick between flash cannon and dark pulse

the correct button could've won me the game

not too sure about umcotts defenses

[astral yoke]

Know your opponents, and choose your moves carefully

[white oar]

not denying it

but I was rolling for wake ups

because I could one shot and they stayed in for setup

eventually I got a pokemon for it

just not one I needed out

[astral yoke]

Having a dark type that can setup is really good. Because if your opponent doesn't predict your switch in, u can bring in your dark mon, block the prankster, get a free turn of setup when they u-turn/switch, and then proceed to sweep

[white oar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

series of bad rolls ended my game

though I often forget the dark type bit of prankster so noted

[mighty knot]

i wanted to update for a hidden power dark (only special dark move that this fusion has) but #1176786835230437376

[sullen ore]

can you export the set so i can try it

[sullen ore]

wait ive got it
check your attack IV

smogon auto sets it to 0 if you have no physical moves (so you dont take more damage from confusion/foul play)
but that makes the iv spread invalid for hp dark

if u set it to 1 it validates the set

[mighty knot]

yeah thanks

[astral yoke]

I wonder if it's fine if i get a friend to represent me in the upcoming showdown event?
I'll be overseas on the 16th and might not be able to join

[proud stump]

i mean im chill with it

i wouldnt say anyone would be against it

[noble helm]

Caffiene help me build a team (istg if you are at work)

[mighty knot]

also, i wonder but, stance change just swap atk/sp.atk with def/sp.def or does it work a other way ?

[astral yoke]

1. Not sure what u plan to catch with Encore, and instead of Encore, wouldn't Taunt be better?
2. Pretty standard sweeper, if you want to use it, u can't use my opinions, it's whether u feel it contributes anything for your team

[noble helm]

I just need to add a new pokemon

[astral yoke]

That's up to you, but i would recommend having at least 1 Physical sweeper and 1 pivot

[noble helm]

What do you think of this team?

[odd kiln]

ancient power

[astral yoke]

It runs Serene Grace, so it's 20% chance for omni boost, so it isn't unreasonable. It's also a counter to Sylvern, so if it switches it, it gets a free shot at that boost.
But even if it gets the boost, it's locked to Ancient Power because it's running Choice Scarf... so it's kinda wasted

[proud stump]

gg

im suprised i lasted that long tbh

im testing mons mainly atm to perfect my team

[odd kiln]

20% chance to omniboost is unreasonable

ur using a 60 bp move off bad spa

so 80% of the time its a free turn for the opponent

[noble helm]

If y'all hate ancient power so much, what should i replace it with

[odd kiln]

vcreate

or trick

[noble helm]

Trick sounds fun

[odd kiln]

aerial ace does 0

[astral yoke]

1. i haven't had a chance to test this extensively, but tests so far show it's a powerful ESpeed bot... but nothing else. Its bulk and speed is low that if u run into a ghost type, it's gonna get rekt'd
2. Standard sweper, up to u if u want to use it, just know that your Boomburst is only 140 BP because it doesn't get STAB or any other boost
3. Too slow to be an effective sweeper, you're gonna get revenged killed or crippled with will.o.wisp
4. As i mentioned earlier, Ancient Power is a poor choice because u're using Choice Scarf. Even if u get the Omni boost, u're still locked into ancient power
5. Not too bad, but careful u don't get taunted
6. Bulky, but not a threat. All it has is Sludge bomb, and HP kinda sucks

[odd kiln]

i dont believe much in that mon but at least run koff and roost somewhere

[noble helm]

3. (Has wiped 3 teams so far )

[odd kiln]

post winrate

[astral yoke]

let's see your ladder rating

[noble helm]

1200 or something

[astral yoke]

Oh cool, top 200

[noble helm]

[noble helm]

https://replay.pokeathlon.com/#replay=cybervamplucy-airbornepenguins-1700642679062

I think the person blundered, or the dragon is goated

[odd kiln]

11-31

[noble helm]

I lost like 15 battles cause i was just testing the teams

[astral yoke]

Its speed is only like 309, you're gonna get outspeed by choice scarf sweepers, or even a non-choice-scarfed Sylvern

[odd kiln]

galvsteel doesnt make sense especially on this team

[noble helm]

Assault Vest:

[odd kiln]

its weak to fairy

its not living

[noble helm]

thats what Jitei is for

Even i could use my fire toxic sphere birb

[odd kiln]

i see way too many people just throwing webs on whats basically balance

[noble helm]

I JUST SWEEPED 2 POKEMON

WITH MY WATER FLYING DRAGON THAT DOES NOT FLY

[astral yoke]

Trash:

That was a timid and scarfed Boomburst btw
I went ahead and made it timid with Pixie plate, still OHKO

Unless the Sylvern is Modest and not scarfed do u outspeed, and even then, your moveset can't kill Sylvern

not saying that your mon is trash cuz it can't beat Sylvern

I'm saying you're overestimating your Assault vest and not preparing for sweepers that hit hard

[noble helm]

Its still a decent mon

[odd kiln]

copium

[astral yoke]

309 is a speed alot of sweepers with the bodies of Electrodes, Noivern, or are carrying Choice Scarf can outspeed and OHKO u

That's why Haxorus fusions usually run Dragon Dance (or Shift Gear)

[odd kiln]

4 atks no boosting abil means easy to wall esp by fairies, no recovery means it doesnt actually switch into anything

[noble helm]

This just sounds like harassing instead of feedback lol to my water flyign dragon that does not fly

[odd kiln]

wym man

[solar kettle]

absolute gamer moment

[astral yoke]

Okay, you're right, i won't talk about your mons anymore

[odd kiln]

i just listed reasons why it doesnt work

[noble helm]

Why the hell does someone have teleport

[mighty knot]

i don't know, i thought that because he can learn it he can use it, but apparently no because it #1176808802805370970 x)

[astral yoke]

Should be a bug, report it

[mighty knot]

hey, i reported this, it happened during my fight x)

[solar kettle]

I thought it was intentional lel

[astral yoke]

Nah, Hoopa doesn't exist in PIF, yet the move is accessible

[solar kettle]

Ic, through that special fusion move section, right?

[mighty knot]

yes, as you can see in the screen i posted : "(Fusion only) Expert Moves"

[fast elm]

thats just normally how the move works

I didn't take into account move expert

I even made it so if a hoopa is the body it works but somehow didn't make the move expert change lmao

[astral yoke]

welp, add that to the bucket list of bugs that shouldn't have existed

[mighty knot]

also, how does stance change works in showdown ?

[noble helm]

what should i replace dragon dance with

[fast elm]

like it does in game i hope

swaps defense and offensive final stats

you go into shield forme when you click any protecting move

[mighty knot]

so, this is better stats ?

[fast elm]

like protect, kings shield, baneful bunker, spiky shield

yes

[mighty knot]

ok thx

[astral yoke]

Haven't touched AG yet, but wouldn't a slower mon be better for an Aegislash fusion with Stance Change if your speed isn't super high?

[mighty knot]

i play with my sprites so it's harder to find broken combos x)

but yeah, i could tweak speed so it gain some survivability

@astral yoke so like this ?

[astral yoke]

Hmm... 223 is still pretty fast, but if you're facing sweepers in AG, i would assume they would have much faster mons

You can give it a go, and if it doesn't work, u can try tweaking it

[mighty knot]

usually they sent a blaziken or same level of speed when i sent this xD

(or they just use legendary that are obviously fast)

so yeah, speedy, but not so speedy x)

[astral yoke]

i would assume a Blaziken fusion would be a battle of prediction
Whether they use protect 1st turn to get speed boost, and u don't use King's Shield
Or whether they predict u not to use King's shield predicting their protect, and go in for the kill

Blaziken is a physical mon most of the time, so King's shield should help cripple Blazikens if used properly

[mighty knot]

yeah, that's usually a "slow" in the fight when i'm like "protect or to not protect, this is the question"

[noble helm]

https://replay.pokeathlon.com/#replay=phoenix8381-airbornepenguins-1700644759509

WHAT A BATTLE

OH MY GOD

I BLUNDERED SO HARD BUT I CLUTCHED

[proven wedge]

i hate both of them

[viscid skiff]

does anyone know whats up with this btw

[odd kiln]

brick break

[prime furnace]

It’s a bug

It’s not meant to be illegal

[prime furnace]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1176675774825242714

[static thistle]

the site is in 404 not found

[white oar]

shit same here

[fast elm]

yes I am doing an update

[white oar]

fire

[fast elm]

gonna be 5-10 minutes

showdown updated their entire file architecture right after we dropped just to screw me over

[static thistle]

okay

[white oar]

tragic

any balance changes though

[fast elm]

lmao i'll restart again once trhe client is up to add some to natdex

nothing for ifdex atm

but some move stuff has been fixed

[white oar]

darn

Time to continue complaining about gliscor ig

[languid dove]

damn site down

[astral yoke]

As soon as u restart, i'll validate my boxes and pester u with bugs

[languid dove]

hey this is meta right

[white oar]

we will make it meta

[languid dove]

crying moyai meta when

[fast elm]

ok we're back but I can do a few more resets if theres some easy fixes

[astral yoke]

Damn... validated all my boxes, no bugs... so far

[white oar]

malicious stuff right there

[deft oasis]

Is it intended for Weavile to not be able to learn Icicle Crash?

[fast elm]

probably

the server now uses in game learnsets for IF

i'll check that for you real quick though

[deft oasis]

sorry for the trouble, thanks

[fast elm]

yep doesn't learn it

no its no problem at all

we've had problems like that in the past

[static thistle]

uhhh

i can't fuse

[fast elm]

send a screenshot

this is to be expected since the client got entirely messed up

[static thistle]

i just reload and it fixed

i don't know what happened

[median thunder]

mew n whimsicott can't learn spore again

[fast elm]

that was a fix

i'm writing them up now

[median thunder]

I thought it seemed a bit good to be true

😭

[fast elm]

hmm tbf idk if that makes sense

since thats a tm, and my spore distribution was through move tutors

but if you go to the list of move tutors spore isn't there

[thick axle]

Anyways, to make some discussion, regarding the contest winner raffle, which one do you guys think will have the biggest impact on the OU meta?

[autumn birch]

uhhh
Torkoal

Do i have to say more?

[verbal pine]

Probably Xurkitree

[thick axle]

Actually will xurtitree even be OU? Beast boost, with getting tail glow seems like a very scary fusion material

[proven wedge]

Xurkitree is the obvious one ye

As for 2nd i would say primarina ngl

Liquid Voice + Boomburst

[white oar]

archeops does have big numbers though

might end up banned actually

[wispy ember]

@warm agate

[thick axle]

and a higher chance of winning

[thick axle]

Pseudos still have higher stats

[white oar]

claydoll adds access to a new rapid spinner

[white oar]

140 attack and 110 speed

the numbers are in the right places

[thick axle]

Actually, true

[white oar]

it's a goated body pokemon

and ground type

one of the best offensive types

[thick axle]

Isn’t it rock flying?

Or am I crazy

[white oar]

oh

no im crazy

been up for like

25 hours

not doing super hot

[thick axle]

Go to sleep

[proven wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-time-gif-25989084

[white oar]

too much discussion at 4 am

entertainment quota must be met

[thick axle]

Ok, time to stop talking so you will go to sleep

[white oar]

cring

excited to gain access to a defensive fire type though

also drought

oh shit drought

and a trapping expert move

torkoal no dif

sun teams bouta get a sick ass setter with trapping capabilities

[warm agate]

Damn of course

[warped veldt]

Hey look that me

[fast blade]

I wanna play AG but I don't want to see all of the absolute cancer like no sleep clause, evasion, and shedinja spam

Gotta make an ubers tier below AG like there normally is

[warm agate]

Tbh if that is you I am curious why exactly you are using it in showdown. More so just curious

[warped veldt]

Eh, I just wanted to make funny movesets.

[warm agate]

Fair enough

All I need to know

[regal tundra]

.....I just spammed through all 24 Flamethrowers without a single burn
And the opponent wasn't immune to it, either, it was a Clefable/Klinklang and later i flinched it by dank pulse

[warped veldt]

I just learned this exists, so I'm still pretty rough on the team building side.

Too many choices

But I'm already seeing the meta.

[fast blade]

In the game there's literally like 170K+ possible fusions it's awesome

A lot of choices

But that's just IF dex, natdex is another level

[warped veldt]

Yeah, that's what makes Infinite Fusion so great in the first place.

[fast blade]

Every playthrough can be vastly different, and it's one of the only pokemon games ever with an amazing post game

[median thunder]

shaymin sky and the ultra beast would get banned to ubers

[thick axle]

What does shaymin sky get? I’m not quite familiar

[fast blade]

It's the serene grace too

The stats on their own would not be a ban

[median thunder]

air slash flinch feels so good

nah the speed is important

being around that speed tier while not sacrificing half Ur offenses

[torn jay]

335 speed gets you to outspeed most things

[fast blade]

Yeah but jolteon has 110/130 and would never get banned

It's not the stats as much as the stats+serene grace

[pure breach]

Noooo we would neveeeer

[noble helm]

🧢

[fast blade]

Oh come on Jolteon is fine

[waxen trench]

Anyone can tell me how I would add these stats of my Pokemon into the stats of showdown? I would like to battle a friend with my Pokemon against his Pokemon with exact stats that our Pokemon have in the game.

[opal fiber]

Change their level and EVs manually

[waxen trench]

so which row is the stats of my Pokemon ? is it the EV row? And i write there in the first box for HP 57 and so on?

[astral yoke]

Without knowing what battles your Pokemon have been through, and without debug mode, it's impossible to know what EVs and IVs your Pokemon have at your current stage of the game

To make it fair, you could just give them 0 EVs and full IVs, so that the stats might not be the same, but it'll be "clean"

[waxen trench]

ok that you for explaining

[astral yoke]

just note that showdown has an error for if u have 0 EVs, as a reminder for u to set your EVs. To fix it, set one of your EVs to exactly 1. It will not increase your stats, and it will let showdown know you're purposely giving your mons 0 EVs

[waxen trench]

thank you*

[pure breach]

Actually I’m starting to think it’s a bit broken, might ban it on the next update

[pure breach]

I mean, you could vary the EV and IV until you get the stats you want, which will be somewhere in between 0 and 252, and 0 and 31 respectively

[astral yoke]

What is?

[pure breach]

I’m making a joke about banning Jolteon

[astral yoke]

Ah

[mighty knot]

make a tier where you can play only jolteon and ban jolteon in all the other format

[noble helm]

When Random Fusion team

Gamemode

[glacial bane]

Every time somebody asks for Random battle to release, we delay it by 1 day

[noble helm]

Can we get random battle (You know whats going on)

[mighty knot]

so, if someone ask for NO random battles it's shorten by 1 day if we follow this logic ?

[glacial bane]

If a day passes, yes

[noble helm]

GUYS WE DONT WANT RANDOM BATTLES

ITS ASS

AND IS LUCK BASED

AND IS NO SKILL LADDER CLIMB

[glacial bane]

[proven wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-gif-24395495

[pure breach]

Guys we have like 1700 sets for randbats last I checked

We need at least 10,000 to make them

[glacial bane]

Maybe I should submit some then...

[pure breach]

Definitely

[pure breach]

(Also this was a joke)

[glacial bane]

Okay

It just seems a little hard to find a balance...

Now that I look at it, one of the example submisions mentions Double Iron Bash

[wispy ember]

it would be funny tho

I was getting ready

[whole karma]

Does weavile really not get icicle crash in IF?

[pure breach]

Do submit more, the more the better

[wheat anvil]

I have submitted a couple last night

[glacial bane]

I wonder how many were like "Yeah, Pixilate Extreme Speed, nobody came up with that one yet"

[warm agate]

But its funny

[unborn pine]

are filters broken for anyone else

nvm i reloaded and it works

[mighty knot]

@pure breach just so you know, i accidently submitted an AG random set xD, so if you want to pick random AG battles, well there's one already submitted

[wheat anvil]

I submitted my prankster Haze Sableye/cofra, some Espeon/jolteon, Latios/raikou... a couple of Hydreigon/tentacruel sets... I supposed that were already taken JAJAJAJA

[glacial bane]

Oh boy

[wheat anvil]

now im thinking in some blaziken fusions

I miss so much HDB on IN (not natdex)

[scenic wren]

Repost
Event Idea for Sprite Artists.
IF showdown Tournament, but you're only allowed to use Pokemon you've spirited yourself up to 6, and they need to be new.
1 legendary fusion allowed
No duplicate/overlapping mons.
(Ie. You can't have both Charizard/Lucario and Lucario/Mimikuu)
(Possible addition, sprites have to be completed and be approved by a sprite manager before entry to avoid low quality rushed entries)

[glacial bane]

Time to get into pixel art I guess?

[astral yoke]

I'm sure many, and i mean MANY of you are probably too young to know this, but back during showdown's early days, they had alot of random shit. Like some 'mods' or assigned high ranking players were given 'gym leader' titles, and players could get a colored role or something by beating said Gym leader using that Gym leader's same typing (e.g. Beating misty using only water Pokemon)

There were also other random shit, but i could only remember this one, because it was the only one i could beat lol

[glacial bane]

Funny

[drifting kite]

Why did they stop doing that?

[astral yoke]

idk, guess they got more mature? or maybe it wasn't really featured that much?

who knows

Was more than a decade ago, and my boomer brain has started to rot

[fast elm]

now you aren't allowed to pretend to be a gym leader in lobby i think

[astral yoke]

It was assigned by the showdown staff, like they had a list of mods/players who are "gym leaders", and players could challenge them for the roles following the established rules

[fast elm]

yeah i'm just saying its changed a lot

[astral yoke]

it'd better, it was more than a decade ago lol

[fast elm]

since you can't even ask people to challenge your fake gym team in lobby

[drifting kite]

Can we add a monotype format to IF Showdown?

[astral yoke]

Why don't we actually get showdown to work properly first?

before introducing more modes/bugs

[drifting kite]

Fair enough

[astral yoke]

Also helps if we establish a proper meta

[scenic wren]

Ban Evolite

[astral yoke]

the meta the past week has been so god damned erratic

[glacial bane]

Play Knock off

[scenic wren]

Ban Everything

[glacial bane]

Agreed

[scenic wren]

battles are decided by coin flip

[drifting kite]

I didn't know you were on the OU council.

[glacial bane]

Huh?

[scenic wren]

#TriangleofFairness

[astral yoke]

I think i might've overplayed/overestimated eviolite

it's not ban worthy

[glacial bane]

It's just okay

[scenic wren]

So hows Evolite Chanuckle

[astral yoke]

where it belongs, the trash AG

[odd kiln]

chanuckle sucks

shuckle in general is not good in ag

[drifting kite]

I saw a funky Whimsicott/Breloom fusion that had prankster with leech seed, substitute, and focus punch.

[scenic wren]

foreal tho I'm not gonna bother with comp.

This is just more impressive to see than anything

[astral yoke]

Fought that, too gimmicky

Can't do shit if it can't spore the target

[scenic wren]

I think once Randbats are launched its gonna get attention from PokeTubers

[glacial bane]

Sadly

[scenic wren]

if it hasnt already

[drifting kite]

I was boned because my crobat/honchkrow wasn't running infiltrator at the time

[scenic wren]

What's considered "Banned from Ubers" level of Broken in IF?

[astral yoke]

i don't think it is, either that or Poketubers are still building their shit/editing their videos. 3 days after launch, not a single video

[odd kiln]

shedinja

huge power

[astral yoke]

haven't checked recently

[odd kiln]

blissey/chansey

thats about it

[scenic wren]

So the Azumaking from Cinnibar but actually good?

[drifting kite]

Slaking and Regigigas

[astral yoke]

Yep, still nothing from Poketubers

[odd kiln]

slaking and regigigas are not ag level

[glacial bane]

I think they have just forgotten about IF, we hopped on the hype train and it is gone now

[scenic wren]

I can only think of 3 people Id actually watch IF content from

Alpharad, PC, and Wolfe

[astral yoke]

We'll see

[scenic wren]

Idt Wolfe touches Fangames tho

[astral yoke]

the mods have something planned that they cannot share atm

[glacial bane]

Oh?

Alright then

[scenic wren]

Will there be anything noteworthy added to the Showdown outside of Battles.

[astral yoke]

Ironically, i'm actually enjoying not knowing much, but the mods squirming in agony that they can't share what they know

[wheat anvil]

Thats what i was thinking Are we creating in the future a proper Ubers and a proper AG?

[astral yoke]

i think in the case of IF, what's the diff?

Both are full of broken shit

[odd kiln]

uber would remove evasion, bpass, shed, chansey/blissey

[astral yoke]

It's not even a stat contest like in regular showdown, we're talking about almost game balance breaking gimmicks

[odd kiln]

lack of species clause

after a couple more unforeseen bans it should be stable

[pure breach]

I reckon we’re almost there

[drifting kite]

I do not believe you

[pure breach]

At least in IF Dex

[astral yoke]

i'll stick in OU, there at least i can turn off my brain

[drifting kite]

Yeah same

[scenic wren]

so hear me out

IFLC

[odd kiln]

ag is pretty fun

fooling around w shed

[drifting kite]

Wot

[scenic wren]

Ininite Fusion Little Cup

Will there be any rooms added besides lobby

[drifting kite]

Does there need to be?

[astral yoke]

I saw that

[scenic wren]

idk probably just for other languages

but then again discord works just fine

[drifting kite]

Server wtf did I read?

[wary flame]

Saw what

[drifting kite]

He said "IF roleplay chat

[wary flame]

What

[drifting kite]

Alexa play Perish Song

[scenic wren]

It's funny because its cringe

One thing I was hopping to get from the Showdown like For Real. are there any commands to just quick look up the type/stats/etc for a fusion

or a /ds command to see what fusions have a specific type combo

[fast elm]

this will never exist because theres thousands of options for most type combos

[fast elm]

this is planned

for the near future

[scenic wren]

woo

[fast elm]

i actually had a /fuse command that worked and deleted it cause I didn't like the code lmao

then now its super requested

[fast blade]

That would be a nightmare lol

[scenic wren]

i lowkey considered making a spreadsheet

[fast blade]

I did too but then I'd need a csv file of all of the 440 pokemon to read into it and I don't think that exists

[scenic wren]

i could make it

What data do you need in it

[glacial bane]

Sorry, what are we talking about?

[ember nova]

Okay, this set goes crazy.

[ember nova]

Physical attacking fire types are wild.

[solar kettle]

This is facts, battle factory better, where battle factory

[outer tusk]

aerodactyl/blaziken does really well in the current meta with rock head flare blitz and brave bird

[fast blade]

I was gonna try to make some python code that you could give it prompts and it could give you a list of pokemon accordingly

But I'd need a csv file that lists:
Pokemon
Primary type
Secondary type
HP
Attack
Defense
Special Attack
Special Defense
Speed

And then maybe abilities but It'd just be an integer thing probably

[tribal trellis]

isn't the result when you search good enough?

like i don't know anything about the code you are trying to make

but it is a whole list

with the type and stats

[glacial bane]

Oh, what does it kill? What item do you run on it?

[tribal trellis]

i can't fully speak for mid but i also made that fusion and just overall stab brave bird does work on some common grass types and flare blitz is also good vs steel

i mostly ran band

i also tried a bit with dragon dance but didn't fully make another set for it yet

seems like a pretty good fusion

[outer tusk]

there are a lot of grass/steel and fire/steel that I'm seeing in the OU meta

give it a band, earthquake for coverage, maybe knock off

the only hard part is getting it in safely

[ember nova]

Anyone else start chanting "Rip and tear, rip and tear, rip and teat, ect..." to themselves whenever they start sweeping?

Or am I just weird?

[tiny wadi]

anyone doing gen 9 ag :3

[glacial bane]

Eh, slow U-Turns or Parting Shots should do it

[outer tusk]

stealth rock is more of an issue

[glacial bane]

I mean the only good steel fire I know is Jitei and the grass steels are often to passive to do anything

[glacial bane]

I see

[outer tusk]

brave bird is for the water/grass

[glacial bane]

Those can do something, barely see them, but they have an impact

[rose night]

Nah that’s valid lol

[median thunder]

cos it doesn't have good stat & moveset

[median thunder]

pokemonchall was talking about running a tourney on stream

couple of days ago

[median thunder]

unburden curse ??

[median thunder]

has access to sd and bulk up

[tribal trellis]

he wanted to use herb

for unburden

so wanted a setup while lowering something

[median thunder]

ahhh

@fast elm was removing parting shot from krook intentional as well

[ember nova]

Curse raises attack, defense, and lowers speed.
White herb restores the lowered speed and is consumed to activate unburden which doubles speed.
It's like an unholy combo of shift gear and bulk up in one turn.

[sudden prawn]

Why is nobody talking about how absolutely busted Jolteon is. It's ruining the tier

[fast elm]

seems like i broke move exoert moves

can you see if it validates when it should?

[tribal trellis]

he still has it for me

mabye it's a bug with a specific fusion or something?

or just reload

[median thunder]

I'll try reload

yea still the same

HUH

and lycanrock has accellrock now

[fast elm]

crazy almost like i fixed it 🙀

[fast elm]

i think i probably like misspelled anchor shot or smthn

[tiny wadi]

i hope showdown runs this as an OM of the month next month

[fast elm]

its an entire client/server mod lmao might be a little much for them

frantic fusions is quite similar though

[scenic wren]

@fast blade It's done, and has some extra stuff. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oTQaGXHaDjZlEVBtgAiwCSA0NJ1jmzlyY0uI8sz0ing/edit?usp=sharing

[fast blade]

Thank you!!!!!!

I immensely appreciate you

[frail kindle]

so are only certain fusions allowed atm in the showdown?

HA

nevermind

im just really stupd

[median thunder]

sheer force weavile 6-0

_<

[weak frost]

https://replay.pokeathlon.com/#replay=55thstreetagent-8blaquaza-1700696996340

I had fun. 😄

[wispy ember]

nice one

[vocal bolt]

they just let it happen wow

[vivid junco]

Draft doc?

[scenic wren]

@vivid junco its a CSV sheet/database for the Fusion Dex

[vivid junco]

Ah nevermind then

[vivid junco]

I was gonna try to make a draft doc for a league in december. However the meta is too new atm and im gonna delay for more data

[low merlin]

serene grace ancient power :o

[scenic wren]

@fast blade what do you plan on making with it

[fast blade]

Hits like an absolute truck, but has the worst defensive typing of all time and isn't fast enough

[median thunder]

it's over 100 speed

like it's no aero

but it's like how garchomp has 103 speed and therefore outspeed everything in gen 4

[fast blade]

I was gonna write some python code where it'll prompt you for a question and calculate the answer.

For example, you may ask it like what water type pokemon has the best highest body stats, or highest attack, or the top 10 head stats for some parameter, etc.

Nothing too crazy or useful lol, but I wanted to think on it. Might just add a column that calculates the body/head stats and then you could use that to find the highest BST fusions, and then just call it a day there. Again, nothing too crazy not trying to hype it up too much

[white oar]

yall ever get all your reads right and get a major dopamine rush

[sudden prawn]

That's what we play for

[vivid junco]

Have you ever crit someone 3 times in a row with specs draco spam

Felt freaking great

[white oar]

that's

very rude

[astral yoke]

Had a game recently where dood missed 2 meteor mashes and a 90 accuracy move i can't rmb

[outer tusk]

I had compound eyes thunder miss 3 times in a row

that's 97.5%

[shadow arrow]

91% iirc

[outer tusk]

still unlikely

[proud stump]

what do i do?

ill just start timer ig

[outer tusk]

ouch

I think they just have a lot of lag

same thing happened to me

[proud stump]

just got 1300

im slowly learning to battle again

im getting more wins than loses now

well ima get off for a bit

cya

[patent sandal]

Is Honchkrow having access to Heat Wave a problem? Because its a tutor-only move in Gen 7 and I'm fairly certain that tutor is not present on IF

Just asking one last time before openning a bug report

[astral yoke]

It's only a problem if you snitch

[patent sandal]

Honestly, already bothered them today, don't wanna do it again

Imma do it tomorrow if I remember

[proven wedge]

and snitches get stitches

[fallen epoch]

Did they ban whimsicott from learning spore?

[sudden prawn]

moveset stuff is still being worked on

[astral yoke]

Whimsicott can technically learn Spore from TM according to the ingame moveset, howevwer TM Spore does not exist ingame atm, so it's being removed... again...

[fallen epoch]

Unfortunate

Guess I'm running stun spore till then

Which works a lil better cause there isn't a clause in it

[median thunder]

https://replay.pokeathlon.com/#replay=hawwow1-corammoon-1700732860179

made me laugh

[verbal pine]

Why can other people not see replays on mobile, or is that just me?

[fast elm]

the replay site is written from scratch and I haven't tweaked it for mobile yet

you can kind of watch if you turn your phone horizontal

I am planning on fixing it soon

[verbal pine]

Nice

[fast elm]

this isn't happening for me? what format?

[median thunder]

if dex ou

earlier today

[fast elm]

yeah not a thing for me, what was the exact set?

[vagrant sinew]

I dont really know comp strats, but is whimsicott competetivly good? And whats the top fusions to use with it?

[astral yoke]

Has access to Prankster, so it's generally used for support
While it can run moves like Taunt, Spore (if fused with Breloom), hazards, etc, given the prevalence of Dark types and magic bounce however, many Whimsicotts opt to use screens instead

[sudden prawn]

RIP the man

[odd kiln]

you use cc anyway

[fast blade]

Wait what?????

[fast elm]

misspelling in the dex file, no idea how anything still learns it in game

is it called Hi Jump Kick in IF?

[sudden prawn]

Yes

[fast elm]

there you go

fixed by the next time I update

[sudden prawn]

Could something similar be affecting burn up?

[fast elm]

if you search burn up a ton of mons come up

what are you referring to specifically?

[sudden prawn]

Arcanine is listed as it being illegal to know

When they get it as an egg move from Typhlosion in gen 7. Thought it might be a similar grammar error

[fast elm]

EggMoves = BODYSLAM,CLOSECOMBAT,COVET,CRUNCH,DOUBLEKICK,DOUBLEEDGE,FIRESPIN,FLAREBLITZ,HEATWAVE,HOWL,IRONTAIL,MORNINGSUN,THRASH

thats growlithe's egg moves

[sudden prawn]

That’s weird, it must be something IF is missing then.

Almost all the parents are in Infinite Fusion

[fast elm]

yeah its supposed to be the same

[sudden prawn]

Great work as always, I will do more research

[fast blade]

Level up for most of them

[short marsh]

Is this supposed to happen?

[astral yoke]

Them hips don't lie

[white oar]

oh nah

[proven wedge]

i like how everyone is starting to question aggrons quiver dance

[unborn pine]

vise grip is in the ''useful moves'' section lol

[unborn pine]

you made me want to do it

[white oar]

what are you cooking

[unborn pine]

we cooking in PU 🔥

[white oar]

PU doesnt even exist

also regenerating 125% of my HP because of Harvest is unhinged

[solar kettle]

I think u want surf over scald on setup cuz u need the damage

[unborn pine]

hm, but scald allows it to hit stuff before setting up

[solar kettle]

It can still hit stuff with surf, just wont have the burn chance, and considering its lorb u prolly dont wanna swap this in to hit stuff unboosted midgame

Since u need the health to set up and to continue hitting stuff

[unborn pine]

yeah i switched it for leftovers because it keeps dying to orb damage

[fast blade]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[fallen epoch]

Will whimsicott get it back ever?

Like,is there a chance it will?

[radiant mica]

read the discussion above

it will get it back together with all the other mons, and then it will get banned

[fallen epoch]

Discussion above where?

[radiant mica]

oh it was the other cannel

the teambuilding channel

we discussed it today

[solar basin]

anyone down for a ffa?

nvm

[white oar]

getting screwed by trick choice scarf feels bad

[astral yoke]

That would be the point yes

[wheat anvil]

It is a fair strategy and good timming

Not like abusing spore or so many poison heal or unaware

[tight whale]

can someone do a gen 9 IF nat dex battle i built a silly team i want to use

[silver surge]

there should be a channel for replay vids

[solid umbra]

IF DEX OU anyone?

[unborn pine]

why does togekiss get shell smash

[sullen ore]

Togepi maybe?

Yep checked, togepi gets it too

And like, in vanilla pokemon huntail can use shell smash bc of clamperl

[silver surge]

yea but huntail is cool and deserves it

togekiss is already good enough without it

[magic fiber]

Serene Grace Togekiss/Charizard is good in IF, but on Showdown it sucks because its no longer fire fairy

[odd kiln]

what does it use for serene grace if its fire fairy

[magic fiber]

Ancient Power
Flamethrower/Heat Wave for easy burns
Air Slash

Also fire fairy is an extremely good typing

[odd kiln]

not ancient power and unstab air slash

flamethrower gets beat by lava plume in burns so i wouldnt say thats easy burns

[magic fiber]

Im just listing examples

Oh yeah would Typhlosion work better?

[odd kiln]

yes but id rather a scald mon

[magic fiber]

Like Milotic?

[odd kiln]

perhaps

[thick axle]

If a mon that learns eruption is fused with a water type, it can learn the far superior steam eruption

[unborn pine]

Is it flying fairy in reverse or fire flying

[thin inlet]

i see the red orb being in showdown, how does it interact?

[fast elm]

same as megastones, if the head pokemon is groudon then it can primal revert in natdex ag

if its the body nothing will happen

all of the primal reversion/mega evolution/tera/zmoves only work in ifnatdexag and have no support

[wispy ember]

[fast blade]

Because togepi is literally a baby who's shell has been smashed

[thin inlet]

so would it be a primal groudon + other pokemon body fusion or just primal groudon

[fast elm]

it should preserve the fusion but if you find that it doesn't, lmk :)

[wispy ember]

why the imposter ban tho

[odd kiln]

bc improofing in ou is hard

[wind junco]

Blame Guzzlord/Ditto

[wispy ember]

but that's natdex

natdex should not affect ifdex

[wind junco]

True

[odd kiln]

its a minimal hp difference

[wind junco]

I know a lot of people did not like Imposter though in any singles format 🤔

[wispy ember]

yeah, it revenge kills sweepers

and can stay around to do more

but to be banned?

[primal wedge]

Aggron getting Quiver Dance but Oricorio not getting it is a game design decision that baffles the mind

[unborn pine]

i forgot togepi existed

[placid wigeon]

I think a lot less people are running prankster now

[scenic wren]

How broken is Dark/Ghost Wonder Guard

Like, I know Entry Hazzards and Toxic exist but how broke is it

[wispy ember]

btw. @fast elm what about the #showdown-announcements with them new bans?

[astral yoke]

Just the fact that it is an almost free defensive pivot already makes it so broken
Having it in your party forces the opponent to have to think through even more options than they need to

[fast blade]

What new bans?

[wispy ember]

imposter is a notable one

belly drum as well

[sudden prawn]

Belly drum was gone since the start I thought

[primal wedge]

??????

[wary flame]

What the problem

[primal wedge]

Why is Dungeons and Dragons here

Oh sorry

Dungeons &amp; Dragons

[wary flame]

Why not

[primal wedge]

what does the move

Dungeons &amp; Dragons

do

[fast elm]

its a super staff bros move

its not legal in any format

[radiant mica]

i just realized

why is alakazam ubers

just curious

i wouldn't stay psychic types are really thriving in this meta

i guess he has amazing offensive stats, but that's it? and as i said, psychic types don't seem good, so maybe that would also work against it

[wary flame]

Magic guard and good stat

[radiant mica]

what does magic guard protect against? only hazards and status?

[wary flame]

And life orb

And any damage that’s it’s disreact

[wheat anvil]

Again why does aggron learn quiver dance

[wary flame]

Why not

[frigid frost]

yee haw

fun team btw

[wheat anvil]

I played vs a couple of times JAJAJA Illusion is good and got me the second time

[frigid frost]

yeah i remember playing vs you

[wheat anvil]

also that overheat miss JAJAJ

[frigid frost]

happens to the best of us 😂

ive had a lot of focus misses w zoroark

[wheat anvil]

(i did some ajustment to the team and im restarting )

Im 22 now

[frigid frost]

zoroark def feels pretty underrated atm

[fast elm]

is there a move tutor that teaches quiver dance in game?

[frigid frost]

or at least underutilized

theres a tm, iirc

[fast elm]

but no tutor?

[frigid frost]

i dont know for sure

[fast elm]

alr well if there isn't then aggron can't get qd in game

[wheat anvil]

Both ihave a question why mismagius and not gengar as fusion

[frigid frost]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xCZsPzQN5J642LLXJjt0hlILxZff62fa7aU7m-yWauE/edit#gid=1444795240
the strategy guide has custom tms and custom tutors but it might be out of date

[fast elm]

but thats not the only case of this and i'm leaving learnsets how they are for reasons

[frigid frost]

mismagius actually does more damage!

[fast elm]

thanks for the info!!

[frigid frost]

you dont get access to moongeist beam w gengar

[wheat anvil]

but is less fast right?

[frigid frost]

106 speed on gengar/zoroark vs 105 speed on zoroark/mismagius

i do not really care for the 1 point difference hahaha

realistically speaking gengar/zoroark is probably better, but i just like mismagius better

so i use the mismagius version and preach the minor optimization on the moongeist beam damage, the focus blast didnt make any major differences in killing between gengar / mismagius

all that really matters at the end of the day is zoroark+ghost pokemon is very good at disgusising itself as poryz/noivern and blowing up potential checks+counters to poryz/noivern, there aren't many pokemon that check both, as normal/ghosts usually get dome'd pretty hard by nasty plot dracos, so it gives my sylv/dnite + poryz/noivern room to do well

[wheat anvil]

Shall we create a Gallery of Successful teams ?

Someone asked me for mine and I was like wouldnt midn share it when I reach top 10 or higher and I know the team is successful

[frigid frost]

i was thinking a sample teams thing would be nice for people new to the format who want ideas on what's good would be nice. would be more than willing to put my team forward for that 🫡

[wheat anvil]

not bad

[frigid frost]

dethroned

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/592970134973317141/1061351524455956520/emojidies.gif

as i get pinged to actually work too...

[wheat anvil]

u will dethrone me soon

I only have time for a couple of matches per day JAJA

[frigid frost]

oh also

i think you played vs my friends meme team the other day

do you remember getting hit by like 5 final gambits

[wheat anvil]

i wanted to kill him

[frigid frost]

LOOOOOL

[wheat anvil]

specially cause i thought Oh this mon has less HP than me

but I was wrong

[frigid frost]

no they're all

scarf + max hp investment

😂

[wheat anvil]

i had to do some adjustments to the team

to prevent that

was with my version 2.0

This is the 4th version

[frigid frost]

he made the team with the desire to hit somebody with it once and then didn't intend on playing it again

and you just happened to be the unlucky person

😂

[wheat anvil]

the torture was real

specially cause he got the stall attempt

[wheat anvil]

i lost vs ignite for an overheat miss that made things much worst JAJAJA

i think u are over me now again JAJA

[median thunder]

what got banned outside of imposter

[frigid frost]

oh imposter got banned? huh

[frigid frost]

just checked, you're a little higher 😂

[dusky steeple]

anyclue when we're getting randbats?

[wispy ember]

[white oar]

clicking u-turn on an incoming grass/dark type and one shotting them will forever be the most vile shit I've ever done

[median thunder]

are we sure big nugget is in if?

what happened to teambuilding channel

[mossy violet]

nothing

[mossy violet]

nothing

[median thunder]

nvm

[mossy violet]

check if you didnt hide muted channels

or somthing

[median thunder]

somehow unchecked it

fixwd

[mossy violet]

nice

[white oar]

saying "nice espeed" to a dragonite fusion who set up in psychic terrain gave me great happiness today

[elfin hazel]

i love how many stallmons there are

like blisinja goes crazy

[odd kiln]

blissey shedinja

what

[glacial bane]

Just noticed, did Spore get banned?

[white oar]

yes

[outer tusk]

sorry angelng

my only option was a stall fight

[sudden prawn]

Pokefusion clause? RIP the Kecleon and Miltank teams

The themed teams were fun

[magic fiber]

Thats fair, it is abuseable

[outer warren]

Does anyone have a random team generator?

[frigid frost]

you could just randomize pokemon twice and make a fusion from the two you get lol

[outer tusk]

so what is the merit of Granpuny? I've been seeing if a lot recently

[hexed umbra]

I haven't seen any but maybe an entrainment gimmick for poison heal mons?

[torn lantern]

I get why Fusion Species Clause had to happen but I wish there was, like, a mono-fusion format - kinda like monotype, but your whole team has to be a fusion of the same pokemon.

[glacial bane]

Ehh, it was fine

[glacial bane]

Gliscor gaming

[steep plover]

TIL aggron gets Quiver Dance

[wheat anvil]

My interent discnected and I couldn't join the battlr

The person put timer

And I lost 40 point

🥲🥲🥲

I'm so pissed

I was 1430 and now im 1390

[steep plover]

time to cook