showdown-general

[wispy ember]

Infinite Fusions Showdown Server : https://play.pokeathlon.com/

[fast elm]

https://discord.com/invite/vsEN6mzuNj

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[hushed igloo]

[oblique osprey]

so how cursedly borked is this

[wispy ember]

it is

actually, really fucking good

as long as you avoid AG that is

[cold mason]

AWESOME

[fluid tinsel]

This is a great idea

[oblique osprey]

got it, test the limits, find all the things wrong

[wispy ember]

we already did some of that

[cold mason]

the caps lock was an accident but it's appropriate

[hushed igloo]

yeah we have some little monsters already 😛

[wispy ember]

but yeah, have fun

PSA : Everything in #rules also applies to the showdown server

[thin schooner]

Told u we had something later today

[vivid junco]

Hi gordo

[vivid junco]

Funny teams

[pure breach]

Shaw playing with OTS

[vivid junco]

Ots?

[pure breach]

open team sheets

[vivid junco]

Nah im gonna make new teams

Just wanna show off those

[snow swift]

I can speak in #showdown-announcements
That’s probably not intentional

[timber stone]

yo this is sick

even gives you the option to choose sprites

[wispy ember]

[subtle vector]

damn I didn't get the chance to claim first

[hushed igloo]

beat me to it 😛

come milly, queue pif dex ou 😛

[wispy ember]

[orchid hawk]

how are people that just joined able to talk in the chat but not me

[thin schooner]

hey shadow

[rotund flume]

ITS BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK

[autumn topaz]

Uhm how do I add a fusion to my team?

[rotund flume]

[wispy ember]

AG only

[thin schooner]

click a mon, and there will be a fusion bar that appears

type the mon you wish to fuse in that bar, and tada

[outer badge]

Making a team now

[autumn topaz]

So, no sprites?

[sharp depot]

so how does this all work?

[fast elm]

go to the teambuilder and add some pokemon

if they have a sprite it will show :)

you need to set the format to something as well

[wet shell]

Ima make a team of my sprites

[orchid hawk]

same lmao

[autumn topaz]

this is awesome

[wet shell]

Ima lose all my matches but I agree

[autumn topaz]

I didn't pick any format at first that's why the fusion bar wasn't showing up lol

[timber stone]

i too am only using my sprites haha

[autumn topaz]

gonna pull up the dunsparce team

[wet shell]

I love this way too much and I haven’t even battled yet!

[orchid hawk]

yeah no nvm i'm so out of the competitive loop

this is so boring for me, i have no idea of what anything means lmao

[wet shell]

I just like seeing my sprites

[orchid hawk]

i gotta choose my own moves? and items? and EVs whatever they are???

[outer badge]

Lets friggin do dis

[wispy ember]

yes

[outer tusk]

which lopunny team is the best though

[outer badge]

someone let XxFartMonsterxX SPEAK

[wet shell]

Got my team

[outer badge]

Rain teams be COOKIN

[south flame]

idk teams because I haven’t developed good strategies in terms of pokemon yet

[mossy laurel]

What is this showdown?

[south flame]

Battling other people with teams you make

[mossy laurel]

Ohhh, thank you!

[glad summit]

No shot

NO FREAKING SHOT

[ivory cipher]

this

[wispy ember]

oh wait, you meant on showdown

anti-spam measure

your account needs to be at least a week old

to use showdowns chat

[random oak]

If you have a registered account you can talk in battles at least

[wispy ember]

should also be able to dm people, but don't @ me on that

[prime garnet]

Hi

Bye

[wet shell]

It’s probably just a mobile problem (not at computer rn) but making a username doesn’t work as far as I’ve tried

[autumn topaz]

You mean to login?

[tame sonnet]

idk vvhether to post this in the support channel or here but: vvhat is the situation vvith sprites for natdex pokemon? iirc autogens aren't an option due to the japeal situation, so vvill you guys be taking custom ones or something?

[wispy ember]

when it coems to natdex

you should ask yoshi or dunscy about that one

[weak frost]

Any ideas for good team members? I currently have Sharpedo / Volcarona and Togekiss / Klefki. 🙂

I had a team made the other day, but it disappeared. 😢

[wispy ember]

yeah, it did that once

[tame sonnet]

is it ok to ping?

[wispy ember]

I'd say so

[ivory cipher]

Talking in battles is nice. I have to wait a full week to talk in general chat cause i'm locked out of my showdown account. I found the username 100% but to reset my password I have to have met certain requirements which I don't have on that old account so had to make a new one.

[tame sonnet]

@fast elm@pure breach

[proud finch]

This is nutty

[autumn topaz]

What's the issue? It doesn't let you type? Because I was able to register with no problem on mobile

[feral anchor]

Finally have PIFshowdown back

[ivory cipher]

How do I build a fusion team, I want to put Charligatr on it but when I type in the name it doesn't show up on the list of Pokemon.

[tame sonnet]

select head first then body

[wet shell]

I can type, I’ve done HyperLash, Hyper_Lash, etc. once I hit enter or whatever, nothing happens

[tame sonnet]

pick charizard first, then there should be a box for "select fusion" and then pick feraligatr from that list

[ivory cipher]

I don't see that anywhere.

[ivory cipher]

oh ok

tysm

[tame sonnet]

👍

[pure breach]

We don't handle sprites or spritework. We use the sprites from the GitLab (uploaded by the rest of the IF staff), we can discuss a solution with them, but this is honestly a decision that goes through the IF staff

[tame sonnet]

gotcha, ty for the quick reply. i figured it might be complicated so no vvorries if you need time to figure stuff out

[oblique bobcat]

So there's only a few selected fusions avaliable (like the starter triple fusions)?

[pure breach]

Fusions are created dynamically

select a pokemon to be the head

[tame sonnet]

#showdown-general message

[pure breach]

and then a box will appear to choose the body with

[weak frost]

Any good ideas for a Porygon-Z fusion? 🙂

[pure breach]

any special attacker

what format are you looking to play in?

NatDex, Blacephalon or hoopa-u are p good

IF Dex, Chandelure I really like with it

[weak frost]

IF Pokédex OU. 😄

Ooh, Chandelure is a fantastic shout. 😄

Thanks! 🙂

[pure breach]

Gengar and Espeon are also p good if you want to change things up a bit

[lethal sundial]

What is this what is happening

[pure breach]

Pokemon Showdown for Infinite Fusion

aka an online battle simulator for Infinite Fusion

[tame sonnet]

might vvant to start a FAQ channel lol

[weak frost]

Turns out Volcarona is an Uber, so this is what I was planning to include. 😄

[warped blade]

The ban list needs checking considering prankster Spore is not banned

[tiny wadi]

[pure breach]

prankster spore is on the list of suspects

there's a couple of things we didn't want to ban before getting a larger playerbase on

such as prankster spore

[vivid junco]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1165100711613317141/1170035985074094111/Screenshot_20231103_112434_DuckDuckGo.jpg?ex=6560ce6d&is=654e596d&hm=2a0f6f85b2df2a4d30cc2549e12ec49cd7c47b692403bc1c3eaa82caf7f3aa4e&

[wispy ember]

Ribombee/Heatran in Natdex

[pure breach]

next best thing

[ivory cipher]

How do I battle test. Or do I have to actually fight a user to test out a team?

[shadow ridge]

is pokeathalon just showdown but for fanmade formats or somethin

[hushed igloo]

fight a user, or use two accounts and fight yourself

[hushed igloo]

been kicked to the curb twice by it now 😛

i do geniunely think regi steel is a bit stronk too when fused

[wispy ember]

^

[pure breach]

yep

[pure breach]

in IF Dex, I assume?

[hushed igloo]

yeah

[weak frost]

I just demolished a Registeel / Ninjask though, so maybe not. 😉

[wispy ember]

but that's a ninjask

two not really compatible pokemons

think more on the defensive side

[tiny wadi]

Is monotype going to be a thing?

[outer badge]

quagsire/registeel is a WALL

[weak frost]

Oh, I don't doubt it for a second, I just wanted to brag.

Toxapex is similarly used quite a lot. 😮

[wispy ember]

used it, not bad

dies to Special sweepers

[timber stone]

ha i just beat a registeel/ninjask myself

and my Lickilicki/Golurk out stalled a clefable/toxapex

[slender abyss]

Are all pokemon available?

[timber stone]

i do foresee a problem with this though....
playing this may keep me from making more sprites

[west pecan]

I’m cooking

[sinful wasp]

How to fuse them

[timber stone]

select a head, then another box will appear to the right of it that says fusion, thats the body

[vivid junco]

Lol

[west pecan]

crazy that theres any version of showdown where Chansey is Ubers

[vagrant sinew]

Whats this?! We have comp infinite fusion?!

Thats amazing!

[warm creek]

Im still confused on how to fuse pokemon. But. Its fine. Lol

[half oar]

Yeah, this is amazing! Wasn't sure if it'd be possible. I'm not very good at competitive pokémon but it'll be fun to try and make a team

[wispy ember]

you build a team

you pick a tier

you pick a mon

this appears

[hushed igloo]

thats been my attitude lol

[warm creek]

It doesnt tho

Now it does. Lol

[pure breach]

You gotta pick a format

might need an FAQ at this point lol

[wispy ember]

first time?

[pure breach]

lmfao

a lot of people being confused about it, both here and in the client

[vagrant sinew]

how can i talk? what do i need to do?

[wispy ember]

need to log in

[west pecan]

Why does Ferrothorn/Donphan have fucking THOUSAND ARROWS

[wispy ember]

account must be older than 1 week

spam prevention

[west pecan]

I had to make a new account again because I lost my showdown account password 😭

[wispy ember]

you can still play

just can't chat

[west pecan]

Yeah

But I also have lost all my Elo on regular showdown too

[pure breach]

you need to be logged in and authenticated (you need to have a week old account and have won a ladder game)

[wispy ember]

won

[rocky loom]

I’ve just been playing Anything Goes. Is there an easy way to check the OU banned list?

[hexed crow]

Yeah, that's why I still can't talk honestly. I've had a general showdown account for years, played a few matches but not many, never won

[vagrant sinew]

what, how is it wrong, i didnt do anything yet

[west pecan]

anything thats ubers

[hexed crow]

might've been almost 10 years at this point by now

[sullen ore]

Someone mightve already made the account

[rocky loom]

True, but Doublade also seems to be banned, and that doesn’t show up in the Ubers list to me

[pure breach]

you can check what's Uber, or run the command /tier gen7IFdexOU

[west pecan]

what would be good for a Sylveon Fusion

[pure breach]

Doublade shouldn't be banned, what format are you in?

[vagrant sinew]

what?! who did such a thing

[hexed crow]

Really hoping there can be a hackmons or balanced hackmons format though, maybe one day 🤞

[rocky loom]

Ah wait, nvm. It was Azumarill that was banned

[sullen ore]

Either something with good physical defense and servicable special attack (if you want a well rounded wall)

Or a fast special attacker if you want to try offensive pixilate stuff

Like the one game i played they brought sylveon cofagrigus

[west pecan]

alright makes sense

[pure breach]

or anything with Espeed

[vagrant sinew]

how do i fuse pokemons?

[hexed crow]

Real though

[pure breach]

1. Choose a format
2. Choose a Pokémon (head)
3. Fusion box appears, insert second Pokémon here (body)

@thorn sun can we pin this or something please?

[west pecan]

https://pokepast.es/bcd952c575acda1b holy moly

[pure breach]

Holy Moly

[vivid junco]

Trans rights 🏳️‍⚧️

[willow cipher]

Are there banned fusions?

[vivid junco]

Stuff not in ou ik pretty sure

[wispy ember]

no

mons are tiered

you can't use Aegislash Chansey in OU

free to do so in AG

[willow cipher]

Tiering all of them seems so crazy lol

[sullen ore]

Sorry to be that guy, but theres pixilate but no normal moves

Itd be better with either levitate, or replacing fleur cannon for hyper voice

[hushed igloo]

tiered by base mon

[wispy ember]

well, they're not fusions

what gastly said

mons are tiered

not the fusions

if a mon is particularly good in fusions

then it gets bumped up

[hushed igloo]

say nothing about my baby Milly

[willow cipher]

Oh okay i understand

[wispy ember]

I will gladly get that shit banned

[hushed igloo]

[wispy ember]

or rather, bumped to AG

but, I won't tell

[thorn sun]

you should have pin perms here

[outer tusk]

opinions on these three?:

[wispy ember]

they do not

I had to fix some perms with #showdown-announcements

as everyone could talk there

[pure breach]

I don't :((

[wispy ember]

you should now

[willow cipher]

I need to try it if i ever have time

[pure breach]

I do

thank you

[thorn sun]

froggys fault

[wispy ember]

I am aware

Always have to fix after the frog

[hushed igloo]

everyone blame frogman

[sharp depot]

man, my opponent isnt doing anything

[wispy ember]

link it

[pure breach]

turn timer on

[wispy ember]

or that

[vivid junco]

Ban them

[wispy ember]

what for

[vivid junco]

Just suggesting something idk

[wispy ember]

I am a mod on showdown

if you ever see someone misbehaving or need a draw done (after 100 turns, you can do it yourself)

[pure breach]

you say also as if Shawdoian was one

[wispy ember]

you can ping me

[willow cipher]

Weather teamcould be really interesting

[wispy ember]

this better?

there is already a rain team going on

[vivid junco]

Araqnuid is legal

[wispy ember]

in NatDex yes

[vivid junco]

Funny rain mon

[pure breach]

weathers are generally really good lol

rain and sun are great imo

I've made one or two great rain teams

although half of them isn't legal anymore

[wispy ember]

[willow cipher]

Aura veil + snow

[upbeat island]

kinda confused by some of these tiering decisions. Blaziken is in Ubers - sure, speed boost, right? No, because speed boost is banned in IFOU. Scolipede and Sharpedo are allowed (without speed boost) in lower tiers so why is Blaz special?

[outer badge]

Whose?

[pure breach]

Blaziken was Ubers because of Speed Boost before speed boost was banned, may or may not have forgotten to unban it lol

[upbeat island]

Ah, did not realize these tiers were older than... well today's announcement.

[pure breach]

Server's been up for a month or so, we were testing, ironing out bugs, and doing some preemptive bans

but not public

[upbeat island]

Fair. Out of sheer curiosity then, why did Volcarona get the hammer? Volc and Blaz were the only Ubers i couldn't figure out at least some reason for

[pure breach]

Volcarona has good stats, two good types to give off, decent coverage, recovery, and the worst of its crimes: Quiver Dance

[upbeat island]

two good types
Meanwhile Bug:

[pure breach]

Bug is a good defensive type

I will always stand by that

[upbeat island]

looks at Scizor okay you have me there

[pure breach]

resists fighting and ground, two of the best and most common offensive types

Bug/Steel has 1 weakness

[vivid junco]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1165100711613317141/1170035985074094111/Screenshot_20231103_112434_DuckDuckGo.jpg?ex=6560ce6d&is=654e596d&hm=2a0f6f85b2df2a4d30cc2549e12ec49cd7c47b692403bc1c3eaa82caf7f3aa4e&

[pure breach]

and you pair it with Heatran and well...

that

[vivid junco]

Sorry bout that

It was fun

[pure breach]

nah it was on the radar before that dw

you just put the nail in the coffin

[vivid junco]

I torturred a13 lol

[pure breach]

rip

[vivid junco]

Pp stalled him

With it

Was great

[upbeat island]

Makes sense. Guess if anything i'm surprised something so straightforward got so broken

i half expected Serene Grace to get the hammer for the degeneracy that could cause

[low merlin]

oh thats pretty interesting way to handle fusions

i remember the other showdown i used you had to nickname it instead

[violet escarp]

Is there gonna be also something like balanced hackmons?

Where you can put any ability and moves so you can expand the gameplay possibilities

[vivid junco]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1161729333593915464/1170463592227819712/image.png?ex=65625caa&is=654fe7aa&hm=360bf05557b16caacfbeae6e85f9731fe46dbfe555eec8901797130af281a1ee&

[pure breach]

uhhhh I doubt it, but maybe?

[vivid junco]

This guy was fun until the ban

[pure breach]

there's other formats that will likely have priority

[low merlin]

om support could be cool

[vivid junco]

Theres custom game

[upbeat island]

the sheer possibilities of IF alone already kinda resemble BH

[vivid junco]

For aaa

[low merlin]

althought, idk what oms could work with fusions

[vivid junco]

And also little cup maybe in the future

[violet escarp]

Oh I see, that format is way too fun and also strategical

[pure breach]

yeah that's why it's nowhere near the highest priority

it's already really close

[pure breach]

we have a list of OMs we'll be rolling out as time goes on, we have a few ideas already and we're open to others!

[vivid junco]

Inverted type chart

[willow cipher]

Suprised no guard+ ok move is legal

[pure breach]

legal in AG

[vivid junco]

Ohko clause lol

[pure breach]

everything is legal in AG

[upbeat island]

in-game that combo is nerfed, no guard doesn't work on ok moves

dunno if they integrated

[fast elm]

we have not but its on the todo list

[willow cipher]

Oh but if i pick machamp it says ru

[fast elm]

fissure is banned

via ohko clause

[willow cipher]

Ah okay

[fast elm]

outside of ag

[young saffron]

it would be a little silly if there was no ohko clause lol

[west pecan]

https://replay.pokeathlon.com/#replay=ampharos670-jcobe800-1700167826447

this shits awesome

[young saffron]

im excited to actually start building teams to use competitively

[willow cipher]

Yeah just thought mons would be ouright illegal with the ability

[west pecan]

Team https://pokepast.es/5ee00a87677b22b2

[low merlin]

question, are the move expert and legendary move expert moves in this?

[upbeat island]

tbf no guard in combo with something like dynamic punch or zap cannon is strong but not all that impressive in the context of IF

[pure breach]

yis

[outer badge]

What is fire/water/grass weak to?

[willow cipher]

And with sleep moves

Flying i guess

[west pecan]

Rock

Flying

Poison

[hexed crow]

quiver dance, the destroyer of worlds

[upbeat island]

...actually that reminds me, Power Herb Geomancy Celebi is legal in OU.

that's terrifying.

[fast elm]

you can do /weak fire, water, grass in any chat on the server to see this btw

[pure breach]

can you help me complaing about it

[fast elm]

we haven't banned any move expert moves yet

because i wanted them to have some time to shine lmao

but DIB and geomancy will almost def get banned

[willow cipher]

Gale wings sounds fun to use lol

[upbeat island]

remember it's the nerfed version

[timid grail]

No random battles?

[willow cipher]

Thats still fine

• prio brave bird with a mon that has high attack

[upbeat island]

wouldn't you prefer to use something that doesn't have recoil? so you can potentially sweep with it?

give it Hurricane or something idk

[willow cipher]

Hurricane is too unreliable

I guess acrobatics

[west pecan]

whats DIB

[upbeat island]

Acrobatics + Flying Gem + Gale Wings could be good

[fast elm]

double iron bash

[west pecan]

ah

yeah probably should be banned

[fast elm]

on any fusion with steel type that learns double slap

def

you can get it on jirachi and have an 94% chance to flinch with serene grace

[upbeat island]

still gives you an item so you could choice scarf that

dear god

[west pecan]

Oh that reminds me I had a game where I flinched something 17 turns in a row

Jirachi Moment

[willow cipher]

Manaphy is righfully banned

[upbeat island]

...sarcasm orrrrr

[willow cipher]

No sarcasm

[upbeat island]

Manaphy isn't in IF...

[wispy ember]

natdex is a thing tho

[upbeat island]

forgive me for i am dum.

[willow cipher]

Idk why but i always think lanturn learns tail glow

[pure breach]

it does now!

[willow cipher]

Oh damn

Ninetales+charizard for very budget charizard y

[low merlin]

emmm, why does strength sap show up twice

[pure breach]

what is that on?

[royal solstice]

Why isn’t anyone using sylveon/noivern

[sullen ore]

well ive got porygon z noivern

[pure breach]

I've seen people use it

and that

they're both great

I also like espeed sylv

[runic oak]

Was thinking about something similar for Aurorus

[hazy rampart]

y’all I’m trash at competitive but I’m considering pulling up with a team of only my sprites lmaoo

[willow cipher]

Arcanine+ursaring might be good

[hazy rampart]

curious as to how terrible it’ll go

[runic oak]

Though both Noivern and Flygon have Dragon as their secondary type, so the best type combo you're getting is Ice/Ground. Not quite as good as Ice/Dragon

[willow cipher]

Aurorus doesnt mave nice attack i believe

[low merlin]

boomburst pixilate maybe

[runic oak]

Boomburst, Refigerate is still pretty great

[low merlin]

oh god the triple fusion of articuno/zapdos/moltres died of one steatlh rock
great

[runic oak]

Lol

[outer badge]

I suck too but I managed to get some wins

Would love to see what an IF UU would look like in the coming months

[hazy rampart]

yo that might be fun

[runic oak]

There is some whack stuff in IF that I'd love to revisit.

[silver summit]

Alright that's fun

my teams got deleted as well

[low merlin]

ow

so far nothing bad has happend to me yet

[runic oak]

I'd almost finished leveling up a mono Lucario Team for the battle Tower a few months back since putting Prankster on Lucario creates a certain infamous set that was running around in gen 5. Might go back and finish it since I got distracted by the new mons

[silver summit]

I think they wiped something out after the beta

anyway I have the trash team nt updated in notepad, and 1 out of 6 mon of the good team in notepad

I won't go far

[glacial bane]

Hey, where can I view what clauses are in play for IF OU (outside the obvious ones from Smogon)?

[fast elm]

do /tier gen7ifdexou

[violet escarp]

How many fusions are implemented already?

Approximately

[fast elm]

all of them

every pokemon can fuse

[violet escarp]

Oh damn

Is there like a button to choose one and then choose then 2nd mon name

Our you gotta search by the fusion right name?

In showdown

[fast elm]

theres a textbox to select your fusion in

[hazy rampart]

hey guys this Pokémon game looks kinda weird

im having too much fun

[lusty wagon]

Oh boy, I can't wait to be stuck at the bottom of the ladder for the entirety of my time here

[hazy rampart]

yo samesies :’)

[slender abyss]

Is moody allowed?

[slender abyss]

Womp womp

[mental siren]

I did a thing (I am not a competitive player lol)
Leggmence (Salamence) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Inner Focus
Tera Type: Fire
Fusion: Girafarig
EVs: 112 Def / 144 SpA / 68 SpD / 184 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Dragon Dance
• Flamethrower
• Defog
• Dragon Pulse

As I said, I am not a competitive player so it probably sucks lol

But uh, yeah, thingy

[hazy rampart]

Dragon dance raises physical attack, flamethrower and dragon pulse is special attack lol

[mental siren]

Oop, 1 sec

Leggmence (Salamence) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Inner Focus
Tera Type: Fire
Fusion: Girafarig
EVs: 112 Def / 144 SpA / 68 SpD / 184 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Calm Mind
• Flamethrower
• Defog
• Dragon Pulse

There

Calm Mind

[hazy rampart]

dw i was like so confused by set building lol

[slender abyss]

Just go sp atk and speed

252 in both

Salamence and Girafig are not defensive

[mental siren]

Okie, thanks

[hazy rampart]

Yea EVs you’re gonna wanna just dump into two stats generally

exceptions for like specialized builds

hope you have fun tho lol competitive is goofy

[mental siren]

Leggmence (Salamence) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Inner Focus
Tera Type: Fire
Fusion: Girafarig
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Calm Mind
• Flamethrower
• Defog
• Dragon Pulse

Defogger funni, no more hazards for you!

[slender abyss]

Run both stabs btw

[mental siren]

So, no flamethrower?

[slender abyss]

No flamethrower

[mental siren]

What should I replace it with

[slender abyss]

What's it's typing?

Dragon and psychic?

[mental siren]

Yeah

[slender abyss]

Psychic and dragon Pulse

[mental siren]

Okie

[slender abyss]

Or psyshock

[mental siren]

What about Tera type

[hazy rampart]

oh hell wait there’s Tera in this?? I didn’t realize for some reason

[mental siren]

Lol

[mighty knot]

Can i copy paste my team and you say what you think of it (AG Gen 7 if dex) ?

[hazy rampart]

yo that is actually gonna get kinda goofy with fusions

[mental siren]

Sure!

[vivid junco]

Sure

[mighty knot]

Sky Pillar (Rayquaza) @ Choice Scarf  
Ability: Air Lock  
Fusion: Torterra  
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe  
Naive Nature  
- Air Slash  
- Extreme Speed  
- Core Enforcer  
- Energy Ball  

Regidrago ++ (Regigigas) @ Life Orb  
Ability: Mold Breaker  
Fusion: Haxorus  
Alt: b  
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def  
Brave Nature  
- Dragon Claw  
- Facade  
- Darkest Lariat  
- Avalanche  

Smoke Kaiju (Weezing) @ Life Orb  
Ability: Levitate  
Fusion: Aggron  
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe  
Adamant Nature  
- Stealth Rock  
- Rock Slide  
- Sludge Bomb  
- Venoshock  

Treasure Crab (Sableye) @ Eviolite  
Ability: Prankster  
Fusion: Krabby  
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe  
Adamant Nature  
- Crabhammer  
- Recover  
- Will-O-Wisp  
- Knock Off  

Dead Tree (Trevenant) @ Life Orb  
Ability: Pressure  
Fusion: Kyurem  
Alt: a  
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe  
Adamant Nature  
IVs: 30 Atk  
- Forest's Curse  
- Hidden Power [Fire]  
- Ice Hammer  
- Phantom Force  

Psychic Slime (Goodra) @ Choice Specs  
Ability: Sap Sipper  
Fusion: Mewtwo  
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe  
Modest Nature  
- Dragon Pulse  
- Photon Geyser  
- Thunderbolt  
- Aura Sphere  

[pure breach]

only in gen 9 NatDex AG

[hazy rampart]

ohhh right makes sense lmao

[placid hornet]

Wait there's people

[mental siren]

Tera dragon or Tera psychic tho

[jovial snow]

Thank y’all soo much for putting this together, it’s incredible!

[junior nest]

fusions+ newer moves is nuts

[wispy ember]

https://replay.pokeathlon.com/#replay=thefusedskeleton-milian1-1700171956234 this was

the second longest match I've ever done

[junior nest]

I am terrible at comp anything but this sounds like a real blast

[mental siren]

Leggmence (Salamence) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Inner Focus
Tera Type: Psychic
Fusion: Girafarig
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Calm Mind
• Psychic
• Defog
• Dragon Pulse
  Here we go! What do you guys think?

[fast elm]

hype

[placid hornet]

Can I get mod perms too lol

[mental siren]

:D

[slender abyss]

Fusing aggron and Weezing is interesting

[silver cliff]

T'was I, who committed such atrocities.

[hazy rampart]

do the sprites get updated alongside Daena?

[wispy ember]

that match

[mighty knot]

I just put some of my the sprite i made that i love the most

[wispy ember]

was both the worst thing I've ever played and the best thing I've ever played

[silver cliff]

I am grateful to hear that.

[slender abyss]

Regidrago and haxorus is a bad fusion

[wispy ember]

it doesnt beat my hackmons

[hazy rampart]

based lmao

[slender abyss]

Also use regidragos ability

[wispy ember]

where we had a literal stall situation

[slender abyss]

Don't use mold breaker

[wispy ember]

where it could go on forever and a mod had to be called

[mighty knot]

It's not a regidrago, it's a regigigas

[wispy ember]

otherwise, yeah

good shit, would not do again

[silver cliff]

Huh. It is good to know that I was up against an equal, then.

GG.

[slender abyss]

Oh it's the nickname mb

[wispy ember]

GG's

you need to show me the ways of teambuilding

as I suck at that

[silver cliff]

Sounds like a plan.

[mighty knot]

And surprisingly my Krabby works well when it doesn't encounter special attackers or electricity x)

[low merlin]

i wanna make sylveon team but then i remember, bewear doesn't learn cc in gen 7

[slender abyss]

4 Offensive pokemon, hazard setter and remover, support pokemon

Have different typings to cover other pokemon

Or run a team like sun/rain/sandstorm with multiple pokemon of the same type

[wispy ember]

well, I do technically have that

but that's not funny

[tiny wadi]

Lanoh (Ho-Oh) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Volt Absorb
Tera Type: Water
Fusion: Lanturn
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpA
Modest Nature

• Sacred Fire
• Scald
• Air Slash
• Thunderbolt

[wispy ember]

what I just played against

that was fucking funny

[tiny wadi]

Any Advice or Comments on the Idea I have for a Rand. Battles Set?

[pure breach]

is this the set?

[tiny wadi]

Ye, any Comments or Suggestions before I submit it?

[pure breach]

set looks cool, my only comment is that Ho-Oh isn't legal in OU

set has to be valid in Gen 7 IF Dex OU

[tiny wadi]

Hm... I see...

[mental siren]

Frosvile (Froslass) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Cursed Body
Tera Type: Ice
Fusion: Weavile
EVs: 252 Atk / 144 Def / 112 SpD
Brave Nature

• Avalanche
• Detect
• Counter
• Crunch
  Opinions? What should I change

[pure breach]

It's a very frail mon to make a defensive set out of IMO

a hyperoffensive set with that fusion does sound really nice, however

[young saffron]

tera??

[mental siren]

Hm, true

[pure breach]

only in Gen 9 AG

[young saffron]

thank goodness

[mental siren]

I need to get a very bulky and slow mon with avalanche and preferably counter for maximum cheese

Suggestions?

[slender abyss]

?

[pure breach]

mamoswine, cloyster

[slender abyss]

Why would you run avalanche if you don't wanna get hit

Also same thing

Just 252 atk 252 speed

They're both not bulky pokemon

[sullen ore]

Omw to make sample sets for my sprites so they show up in randbats

[mental siren]

Hm mammoswine and what

[outer badge]

I can contribute some sets later tonight

[pure breach]

idk, what's your plan lol

is it just avalanche?

[feral anchor]

Ill contribute some sets from challenge mode

[mental siren]

Kinda yeah, but mainly making it so any move the attacker uses affects themselves in some way

[pure breach]

hm

What about Mamoswine + Ferrothorn?

if you get hit, iron barbs

• avalanche

[mental siren]

Hmmmm

Good idea

[young saffron]

ive not actually seen meta fusions so im just going off of ideas i think sound fun

so far ive got jirachi/flygon as my physical sweeper and gard/latios as my special

that draco meteor fleur cannon dont play

[mental siren]

What should the moves be? (Excluding avalanche

[slender abyss]

Leech seed

Gyro ball

Also make it ground and steel type if you can

[slender abyss]

Or ground and ice

[placid hornet]

im smart

[young saffron]

ground water with tera ice

[slender abyss]

Do you run protect

[placid hornet]

should i

coz i do iirc

[slender abyss]

You should run it with gliscor for guaranteed poison

[sullen ore]

Yes

[placid hornet]

i do

[sullen ore]

So that they cant burn you first or knock the orb off
Plus you can stall for healing

[young saffron]

yea any stall mon needs protect for wish spam/poison heal/leftovers recovery

[placid hornet]

but i was running HYPER CUTTER

thats the joke there

[tiny wadi]

Empovile (Weavile) @ Muscle Band
Ability: Defiant
Tera Type: Dark
Fusion: Empoleon
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 0 SpA

• Ice Punch
• Knock Off
• Waterfall
• Steel Wing

[slender abyss]

Well then dont

Poison heal is better

[placid hornet]

i didnt realize

dude

[slender abyss]

Ok

[young saffron]

happens lol

[placid hornet]

it was a mistake hahaha

[tiny wadi]

Advice before sending to Rand. Battles?

[mental siren]

Mamothorn (Mamoswine) (M) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs
Tera Type: Ice
Fusion: Ferrothorn
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe

• Body Press
• Avalanche
• Leech Seed
• Gyro Ball

[slender abyss]

Yeah that's good

And if a special attacker switches in

[pure breach]

Body Press doesn't exist here

[slender abyss]

Switch out

[pure breach]

as in, Ferrothorn doesn't get it

[slender abyss]

Run EQ instead

If body press

[pure breach]

or knock

knock is always good too

[slender abyss]

I would recommend EQ if your ground type

For stab

[pure breach]

it's Steel/Ice

Ice/Steel*

at least the one they sent

could also run spiky shield just to be even more annoying

[slender abyss]

Maybe they could try changing the typing

It's gonna get one shot by a good fighting type or fire type

[pure breach]

gives you worse stats on the other one

the other gets OHKOd by ice

it is what it is

also it's a randbats set

[slender abyss]

Yeah then just keep the steel ice for the stab avalanche ig

[young saffron]

what r some good spinner fusions

[pure breach]

format?

[young saffron]

7 ou

[pure breach]

I like Tentacruel fusions, Forre fusions

[tiny wadi]

Any Advice or Comments on this set before I try submitting it to the Rand. Battles form?

Empovile (Weavile) @ Muscle Band
Ability: Defiant
Tera Type: Dark
Fusion: Empoleon
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 0 SpA

• Ice Punch
• Knock Off
• Waterfall
• Steel Wing

[pure breach]

Dhelmise and Blastoise have some good ones

[young saffron]

oh duh dhelmise

i campaigned so hard for dhelmise i shouldve went for that immediately

[hushed igloo]

man this is fun

[young saffron]

golurk/dhelmise inbound

[west pecan]

holy shit im fourth

[pure breach]

doesn't look bad, Muscle Band could definitely be changed for a better item tho

[young saffron]

whats ur team queen

[hushed igloo]

im just happy to be on the board lmao, i suck at showdown xD

[west pecan]

https://pokepast.es/6d329b2cc73eb69e

[tiny wadi]

What Item would you say is Better?

[west pecan]

you could probably replace Tyrantrum with something better tbh

[outer badge]

Wow I fell fast

[young saffron]

that jirachi entei is criminal got damn

[west pecan]

It is so fun

guaranteed burn my beloved

[pure breach]

actually a few other things.

I'd change Ice Punch for Icicle Crash, and Steel Wing for either Swords Dance or Earthquake.

Item depends on that last option. If you keep Steel Wing or Earthquake, I'd go choice band. Otherwise I'd go focus sash

[young saffron]

i was rocking fire punch for the 20% burn i feel silly now lol

[slender abyss]

Choice band or choice scarf

[young saffron]

good thing that i didnt get past the teambuilding phase

[slender abyss]

What type is this

[low merlin]

blud thinks he's on the team

[mental siren]

??

[tiny wadi]

I checked the Updated Site with all of the New Pokemon, and it said Water/Ice

[west pecan]

Oh hey I’ve fought two of the people on this image

[hushed igloo]

dont under estimate an unfused gliscor

[mental siren]

They are ice steel

[west pecan]

wait shit please win that battle that person is right below me on the leaderboard

[low merlin]

it actually was a gliscor/toxapex

[hushed igloo]

yikes

[young saffron]

that sounds awful to fight

[west pecan]

an annoying one too

and that Bibarel is Hell

[hushed igloo]

Toxapex is a mon id like to see in AG

[low merlin]

maybe should sprite that

[west pecan]

Banned to AGBL

Emily please win that battle

[young saffron]

recover roost toxic its over

[west pecan]

I dont want to fall on the Leaderboard

[west pecan]

its a swords dancer

[tiny wadi]

But yeah, no. It's Water/Ice according to the Site with all of the New Pokemon and Changes

[young saffron]

why would gliscor toxapex not be uberstall?? shocked tbh

[low merlin]

i should make a better team
literally im just using my first in game if team

[hushed igloo]

bc gliscor does what it wants

[young saffron]

true

[west pecan]

the victreebel rampardos is funny tbh

sad that it missed 3 head smashes in a row against me

[young saffron]

oh man i should try gliscor breloom

[slender abyss]

That would be ok tbh

Doesn't sound amazing

[young saffron]

gliscor with spore is not something the world needs to see

[slender abyss]

Yeah but the problem is its stats would be really bad

[young saffron]

nah breloom uu legend

ur talking to brelooms strongest soldier here

[feral anchor]

Made a few teams based on our w.i.p challenge mode
https://pastebin.com/58XdCjKS https://pastebin.com/TWrPua2D https://pastebin.com/xGFPJV3L

[outer badge]

I gotta rethink my rain team when I have the time

[placid hornet]

@pure breach can i get a special thingy if i upload 100 sets of swampert

[pure breach]

define special

[placid hornet]

custom

maybe

[pure breach]

custom avatar?

[placid hornet]

[pure breach]

mmmm

mmmmmmmmmm

[outer badge]

Also showdown managers HOW meta do these sets need to be, can they be more niche?

[wispy ember]

they can

be anything

[pure breach]

me encantaría pero we usually reserve custom avatars for event winners

but maybe....

[pure breach]

they can be as niche as you want

we'll look over them and fix anything that's just... not right, but we'll keep most of everything just as you submit it

for example someone just submitted a Banded mon with 4 special moves, so we'll be changing that to specs

[wispy ember]

oh lmao

[feral anchor]

Does it have to be a full set of 6 pokemon to submit?

[pure breach]

nope

can be as many as you want

1 at least

[feral anchor]

understood

[flat mountain]

Time to figure out if any of the sprites I've made are useable. I'm guessing I can probably cross out all the Ledybas ^^;

[low merlin]

https://replay.pokeathlon.com/#replay=itsemily-sergiovicenteg3-1700174890464 wasn't expecting my last battle for today be against vince of all people

[mighty knot]

Oops, I've submitted a ag sets, I've read only "gen 7 set" :(

[whole karma]

Roselass (Roserade) @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
Fusion: Froslass
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Frost Breath
• Draining Kiss
• Ominous Wind
• Leaf Storm

did I cook?

[outer badge]

You cooked me with that thing

[feral anchor]

I've submitted a few sets

Here's a funny pokemon (when not going against ghost or poison types)

Whimsicruel (Whimsicott) @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
Fusion: Tentacruel
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Toxic Spikes
• Toxic
• Energy Ball
• Haze

Toxeon (Toxapex) @ Life Orb
Ability: Merciless
Fusion: Jolteon
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Baneful Bunker
• Venoshock
• Heal Bell
• Recover

[hexed crow]

ah this is awesome! I might be able to try randbats once they are approved and finally get autoconfirmed, don't think I could win matches other ways

[feral anchor]

I just realized last resort is in the game, i forgot it existed

[flat mountain]

Oh, what’s the command for viewing the tierlist? Thinking I might try to submit a mon ^^

[fast elm]

do you mean viewing the bans in a format?

if the set is valid when you click "Validate" in the teambuilder with IF Dex OU selected as the format then you can submit

[placid hornet]

i have 14 already

plspls

[flat mountain]

Yeah, I just wanted to check before I started theory-crafting since I haven’t even followed competitive Pokémon in ages ^^;

[fast elm]

i can dm you the bans in IF Dex OU if you are up for that?

[flat mountain]

Sure, that’d be great ^^

[slender abyss]

How do I copy my pokemon so I can put it in the random battles thing

[fast elm]

click this button in the teambuilder

you can use it on a whole team

then paste the text into the form :)

[west pecan]

can more people be doing OU I keep finding nobody

[slender abyss]

I'll be joining in soon once I finish my team

[slender abyss]

Can I get it too?

[fast elm]

yep

if you're on the website though then I recommend doing '/tier gen9ifdexou'

[uneven belfry]

can we give shed fusions without wonder guard the fusion mons hp like in the game cause sturdy is so dirty

[fast elm]

it is coded to only have the fusion's hp be 1 if its wonder guard

if that isn't working then pls save a replay/lmk

[slender abyss]

Is speed boost banned?

[pure breach]

yes

[ancient wadi]

My two favorite Pokemon fan games have been put together

I am ecstatic

[pure breach]

two?

[ancient wadi]

Showdown and IF

[pure breach]

ah

that sounds awesome!

I never considered Showdown to be a fangame, but I see where you're coming from

[hazy rampart]

ok wait

how good of an idea would toxapex fused with something with prankster be

[hexed crow]

I'm still in shock I feel like it's a different reality

[cerulean osprey]

Hop on Showdown

[sullen ore]

https://replay.pokeathlon.com/#replay=cloudstreef-plooshiebaird-1700177910194

someone used my own sprite against me

[oblique bobcat]

I don't know how to build a competitive team that good, so

[wet shell]

Let's go, first two matches and I'm 0-2 (L)

[slender abyss]

Which one

[sullen ore]

the magnezone skarmory

[flat mountain]

I remember one of my favorite mons for battles against my friends in showdown was a slow Luxray w/ intimidate and u-turn. Think I might start out by trying to come up w/ mons that could work similarly and/or benefit from being in the same team as a slow pivot.

Anyone have any suggestions?

[fast blade]

Is there a ban list for showdown?

[wispy ember]

kinda?

OU is supposed to be the playable tier

[fast blade]

Okay but what's banned from OU

[wispy ember]

so balance will be mostly made looking at that

go to teambuilder

and look at uber

that's banned from OU

[fast blade]

It seems to just list like the normal OU not IF Ou

[wispy ember]

in a way

that's exactly what it is

but stuff like aegislash and shedinja are banned from OU

let it simmer for a bit

stuff will get balanced further

[flat mountain]

I think a lot of stuff still needs to be tested, but yeah it might not be bad to have a list pinned here for folks who want to theory craft while away from their computers

[west pecan]

ok guys
Clefable/Aggron or Zoroark/Gliscor

[fast blade]

Okay but like, is there a list of all of the pokemon banned from OU so far?

[wispy ember]

go to teambuilder

and check out ubers

anything in OU and below is not banned

certain moves and item combos are

like Pikachu and light ball

speed boost and baton pass (both are banned individually)

[flat mountain]

Belly Drum and Shell Smash are also banned

[ancient solar]

Hello!

[vivid junco]

Hi tina

[vivid junco]

Insurgence and uranium in december also

[sullen ore]

well if anyone ever needs it, here's the ou bans
Pokemon: Box Legends + Their Triple Fusions, Aegislash, Alakazam, Azumarill, Blaziken, Blissey, Chansey,
Enraicune, Mimikyu, Regigigas, Shedinja, Shuckle, Slaking, Volcarona
Items: Quick Claw, King's Rock, Razor Fang, Light Ball
Abilities: Arena Trap, Shadow Tag, Speed Boost
Moves: Baton Pass, Shell Smash, Belly Drum

i was bored so i checked

dont ask me why blaziken is banned if speed boost is too (tbh it's probably just a default)

[vivid junco]

Idk about that

Iirc forgot to change it

[outer badge]

The jotho triple fusion is pretty wild

[vivid junco]

Op

[gentle matrix]

guys why isnt mind blown banned

[ancient wadi]

Wait what?

[vivid junco]

It was uu bc it didn't get d danace

[ancient solar]

Oversights-

[vivid junco]

There will be 4 fangame added in december

2 are known

[flat mountain]

Is Shuckle the only contrary user in IF rn?

[ancient wadi]

To Showdown or IF?

[feral anchor]

yes

[vivid junco]

There will be 1 hell meta game that allows fusiom of isnurgence uranium and all fangame mons

[feral anchor]

So glad hawlucha is in the game, I can finally do my unburden sweeps

[vivid junco]

When the 2 yet to be revealed fangame are added there will be a tournament with those 2 and winner gets to chose next fangame

Or that was what I am pretty sure is happening since thats whats been said

@pure breach is this still the case

[pure breach]

tbd

the other stuff will likely be pushed back a bit due to irl stuff

the choosing the next game might get changed

we're vibing with only IF for a while tho

[vivid junco]

Ah sadge

K then

[feral anchor]

https://replay.pokeathlon.com/#replay=staros-mroakwood-1700179736626
https://pastebin.com/08YCfTbk
Epic team i just made, Those who remember gen 7 OU might see something in this team. Have fun with it.

[flat mountain]

Hm, maybe I’ll try to do some parting shot and/or volt/turn + intimidate shenanigans then. Anyone have suggestions for stuff that could work well w/ that?

I’m guessing hazard control will be important, and having mons w/ immunities could be good if I can successfully predict anything. Maybe Fake Out and First Impression if I’m switching a lot?

[feral anchor]

Could work, but then again, You are using shuckle.

[fast blade]

Wow so alakazam and volcarona are banned?

[feral anchor]

Volt/Turn with regenerator mons would work very well tho

[fast blade]

That's surprising to me they don't seem that good

[flat mountain]

Oh, I meant since Shuckle is banned I wouldn’t have to worry about boosting contrary users w/ parting shot/intimidate

[pure breach]

Umbreon fusions get parting shot now, so 1000% recommend

Umbreon + Pex my beloved

[flat mountain]

Yeah I’m definitely going to check out the move tutor list to see who has access to it ^^ I’ve always wanted to make a team of Pokémon that all know moves that let them switch out

[hazy rampart]

yippee i just built a showdown team for the first time in like a year 💀

[outer badge]

What do the pros here think is better rain or sand

[flat mountain]

First Impression + U-Turn seems like it could be scary too

[fast blade]

Pikachu and Marowak aren't banned?

[flat mountain]

I think Pikachu + Light ball is

[outer badge]

Marowak without the bone is good, bonemaramg can kill

[pure breach]

rain

[oblique bobcat]

How good would jirachi fusions work with serene grace?

[outer badge]

Scald goes up to 60% burn

So I’d fuse it with a scalder

[fast blade]

Nah doesn't seem like it

[oblique bobcat]

Then I guess milotic or empoleon would work well with this combo (if excluding kyogre)?

[pure breach]

it is, it won't validate

in the non-AG formats

[slender abyss]

@thick axle

[thick axle]

I'm here

[slender abyss]

Do you want another one lol

[thick axle]

you decide

[slender abyss]

Yeah alright

[outer badge]

If your goal is to have a bulky scalder I’d go jirachi/milotic thatd be psychic water

[hazy rampart]

would it be annoying to send a link to my slapped together team and ask what y'all think

[slender abyss]

Gg

[thick axle]

gg

[feral anchor]

aw man, mew cant learn quiver dance here
he can in pif tho because that was a great idea

[fast blade]

Wait then Pikachu+Light Ball is banned but Marowak+Thick Club isn't lol?

[gentle matrix]

it was because of the speed tier I think

as in not enough people were using marowak

pikachu could also be special

[fast blade]

That's odd to me

You get wayyy more attack and bulk with Marowak than Pikachu, and using Dragon Dance or Shift Gear and you outspeed anything unboosted anyway

[gentle matrix]

I just meant that more people used pikachu in builds because of the higher speed and spatk

[pure breach]

Light Ball also goes both ways, you get double attack and special attack. You can make some really crazy stuff with it

[fast blade]

And priority exists

[pure breach]

personally I would also ban thick club, but it wasn't unanimous so it'll have to wait

[fast blade]

Technician+bullet punch or technician+mach punch alongside thick club marowak for example

[fast blade]

Oh there was a vote already?

[feral anchor]

huh

new team idea

[pure breach]

no, just amongst Yoshi and I lol

[fast blade]

Ik lol

80 atk+fusion being doubled is insane

Azumarill and Pikachu are both doubling 50 attack in comparison

Marowak is closer to mega mawile than it is to Azumarill

[feral anchor]

https://replay.pokeathlon.com/#replay=jonj65-staros-1700181951334
https://pastebin.com/qJZL6JCR

Very fair!

[fast blade]

Lmao I didn't even think of using talonflame+Marowak with recoil-less brave bird

That's comically broken

Good idea

[feral anchor]

Dont forget clefew

[outer badge]

Could’ve prankster/spored’d it

[feral anchor]

Wakes up - you die

cant spore it on the turn you wake up because of prankster!

[fallen epoch]

This showdown shit is really cool

Now spriters have a reason to make sprites

To make the perfect team

[feral anchor]

I mean i already had spriters doing that for challenge mode

[outer badge]

Unaware would counter a stacked clefew

[feral anchor]

Stab Life orb Light Of Ruin

[outer badge]

Hmm

[feral anchor]

Light of ruin is 140 bp lol

[outer badge]

There’s gotta be some counterplay

[feral anchor]

resist fairy

[outer badge]

Exactly

[feral anchor]

and have unaware

i beat a fairy resist with it since i got calm minds up and l.o.r did more than half

in the replay

[dull plaza]

Where can I find what pokemon are banned for the random battles sets.

[fast blade]

What is that? Idk what it's a fusion of

Oh mew gets Floette's signature move?

Or what's the point of Mew there

[silver surge]

anyone know why boots are illegal

[feral anchor]

fused with mew to get light of ruin and the psychic move
also was to get quiver dance but it cant get it in showdown even though it can ingame

[dull plaza]

Gen 8 item

[silver surge]

ohhhh

[thick axle]

For the random battle submision, do you submit one pokemon at a time, or you can submit multiple in one go?

[silver surge]

damn

[dull plaza]

Can submit multiple in one go

[thick axle]

alright, ty

[dull plaza]

But do you knwo what pokemon you can't submit i.e. banned in it

[feral anchor]

both

[dull plaza]

Or is anything allowed to be submitted?

[fast blade]

Bro mew gets quiver dance there???

So mew gets light of ruin but clefable doesn't? What psychic move you referring to? Literally just the move "psychic" or a specific psychic type move?

[feral anchor]

its a tm move in PIF so yep

also its uhh necrozma's signature

[dull plaza]

Photon Geyser

[feral anchor]

yea, that one

base 100 psychic move

[west pecan]

ight I think I’m done for today

[fast blade]

Oh nice

140/100 dual STAB is pretty crazy

[west pecan]

I reached 2 once which is nice

[fast blade]

Nobody can beat Pikadactyl with 150/120 Head Smash/Volt Tackle though. Especially with doubled attack via light ball

[feral anchor]

faster mons with a ground type move:

[west pecan]

hey can people here playing OU try to get to over 1090 elo in OU because my friend has 1090

[wispy ember]

somehow I am at the top

[fast blade]

It's electric/flying?

[wispy ember]

having a perfect 50% wr

[fast blade]

Oh just kidding

[wispy ember]

even tho, most of them were lost at 1000 elo so

[fast blade]

No it's not

[west pecan]

I hit Number 2 once so I’m happy

[wispy ember]

top1 is kinda insane tho

[west pecan]

I beat them once

[fast blade]

Forget what I said I was thinking Aerodactyl got head smash in this game but I don't think it does

[wispy ember]

I dont think I've seen their team

[wispy ember]

I think it does

[fast blade]

Too early to make much of it

[west pecan]

I dont remember it exactly but I’m pretty sure its got Magnezone/Garchomp and Lanturn/Gliscor

[fast blade]

That gets head smash via tyrantrum

[wheat anvil]

How does the tiering work?

[wispy ember]

yeah ur right

[west pecan]

yeah aerodactyl was done dirty

bro gets rock head but no head smash

[wispy ember]

curious

well, that ladder will change when I go to sleep anyway

[placid hornet]

im going to bed now lmao

[wispy ember]

[placid hornet]

5 points

aaaaaa

[wispy ember]

didnt you run your swampert only?

[placid hornet]

i go tired

but yeah got to 1150 with it

i have a 30 pokemon box of swamperts sets tho

[wispy ember]

god damn

[fast blade]

And it's a flying with rock head but no brave bird smh

[placid hornet]

@wispy ember tell a random pokemon so i can try to swampertize it

[delicate ledge]

POKEMON FUSION ON SHOWDOWN!?

[wispy ember]

ummmmmmmmmmmm

registeel

[wispy ember]

yup!

[fast blade]

@feral anchor Correction, the best dual STAB is Noivern with Adaptability boosted Boomburst/Hurricane

And Hurricane has 100% accuracy in rain if you worry about the accuracy

[placid hornet]

no sprite

:(

[fast blade]

Or really noivern and any electric type

[wispy ember]

Pixilate boosted Boomburst

fun

[feral anchor]

just beat prankster spore

https://replay.pokeathlon.com/#replay=staros-akuma71-1700183863531

[wispy ember]

not that difficult

[fast blade]

Worse than Adaptability boosted. Adaptability is 33% boost Pixilate is only 20%

[wispy ember]

it is very good

[wispy ember]

and should very much be in AG

[placid hornet]

it has cute charm oops

[feral anchor]

PIF users forgot that dark types are immune to prankster

[wispy ember]

but is not hard to beat

[wispy ember]

also this is the first time you're forced into using custom sprites

[feral anchor]

You wanna bet?

[fast blade]

It's easy to forget it's not usually that relevant absent PIF

[wispy ember]

just go to natdex

[fast blade]

Assault vest is legal???

Also assault vest+calm mind??

[feral anchor]

especially since it's a bug ingame

[placid hornet]

not calm mind

im flabberghasted

[wispy ember]

also needs pixilate

for it to work

but that looks like a template

[placid hornet]

it was fleur cannon

[placid hornet]

#showdown-general message

[wispy ember]

yeah ik

[placid hornet]

my fav atm r this two

[wispy ember]

btw if you want a fun set

https://replay.pokeathlon.com/#replay=thefusedskeleton-milian1-1700171956234&player=milian1

watch this

[wispy ember]

]

[placid hornet]

what the fuck

264 turns

[wispy ember]

yup

[placid hornet]

i literally ff before 100

[wispy ember]

I proposed a draw

but that mf was stubborn