pif-hoenn-discussion

[sacred pagoda]

If you want shadow pokemon Rejuvination has them

If I remember right

[viscid wren]

Theres a game called Radiant Topaz that has them aswell

[inner ether]

Maybe I check them out one day maybe buy a switch 2 and get it with my online subscription to play the original

[inland jewel]

i thought they were also available for the switch as well?

[inner ether]

No game cube one is switch 2 only

Give me a sec i double check

Yeah just switch 2

[glass finch]

On The Surface Level Shadow Pokémon Seem Simple Enough, Slap A Dark Filter Over The Sprit. Then Have The Filter Be Removable After Reaching A Certain Amount Of Friendship, But Like With All Things Coding Is Very Very Complicated. Thats Not Even Considering The Complications Of Hyper/Reverse Mode.

[full bison]

Shadow Pokémon would also come with a bunch of new moves to account for, plus all the different ways they can disobey you compared to traded Pokémon

One of those moves even being a weather condition they can set up

[viscid wren]

I dont get what the hype with shadow pokemon is about

Dont exactly seem very fun

[viscid fossil]

I LOVE it when none of my Pokémon can level up for the first third of the game

[viscid wren]

Honestly, I know people who genuinely would so I cant tell if thats a joke

[full bison]

I think Shadow Pokémon were a solid gimmick for the GameCube games and did a good job showing off how awful Cipher were, but yeah there would need to be a lot of time and effort put into the level curve to make it worth including

[inner ether]

I mean it was technically their first 3d pokemon games I believe

[rancid nymph]

Pokémon Stadium: am I a joke to you?

[inner ether]

Was that first? Thought it came later

[rancid nymph]

Pokémon Stadium is Gen 1

[inner ether]

Ah

Then fair enough

[viscid fossil]

Colloseum was basically stadium 3 but here's a story mode because why not

[full bison]

Probably had the best story out of any Pokémon game at the time of its release, I'll give it that. As low a bar as that was and still debatably is

[sterile spoke]

Stadium 4, really. Our Stadium and Stadium 2 were Japan's Stadium 2 and 3. 😅

Stadium 1 in Japan was more like Champions is currently; a limited roster of Pokémon, all of which (except Pikachu) were fully evolved. 😮

[spice sage]

Poor Raichu

[gray vine]

who?

oh the thing that mega evolves into another pikachu form

[inner ether]

They really hare raichu don't they

[pearl pond]

question would the hoenn region just be added or is it a hole other game

okay okay i get it's pinned

so are there also gonna be region forms?

[pearl pond]

please don't go again i get it's pinned

what did i do to deserve this and don't you dare to say ask stupid questions

[fringe forge]

you are not special

everyone gets the pins

[pearl pond]

ik

[pearl pond]

now that's just evil

will there also be a safari zone?

[glass finch]

Why Would There Not Be?

[rancid nymph]

Because the safari zone sucks

[prime dust]

less that more the safari zone got removed eventually

i think gen 4 or 5 was the last to have one

[rancid nymph]

Technically, there was one in Gen 8

[glass finch]

Well It Was Still A Part Of Hoenn Sooooooo

[velvet root]

They dont hate Raichu they know Pikachu sells better

[flint tiger]

Meowth sells better than Pikachu tho

And by that

Which one has more regional forms, gimmicks, evolutions, whatever

https://tenor.com/view/thats-right-meowth-team-rocket-gif-5887168

[inner ether]

While true pikachu has it own games and has more hats and outfits then there the cosplay pikachus

[sterile spoke]

Just noticed this. What about the ones in BDSP? 😮

Oh it turns out they don't have categories in there. Wow. 😂

[inland jewel]

yep the contest there are also different so....

[viscid wren]

We dont talk about bdsp contests

[inland jewel]

like they make the games 1-1 sinnoh but then don't keep the same contest?

[full bison]

That's BDSP for ya. Keep a bunch of the things people didn't want, replace a bunch of stuff people did want with worse stuff

I will never forgive how they massacred the secret bases

[rancid nymph]

You could've removed contests from that sentence and it would still be accurate

[viscid wren]

Lol

[full bison]

Really says a lot about BDSP that most of the people I've seen talking about Gen 5 remakes hope they don't happen

[rancid nymph]

Just because they did a bad job once (actually twice, cause Let’s Go, but that doesn’t get nearly as much criticism for some reason) doesn’t mean they should stop doing remakes entirely

[viscid wren]

Let's Go got its hate, then the hate moved to SwSh when that happened

Dexit and all that

[full bison]

ILCA also hasn't made a very good second impression with this series given how controversial the release of Champions has been

[rancid nymph]

Even when it was new, I hardly saw any hate towards it, especially compared to USUM. Which is dumb because aside from the plot, USUM is definitively better then Sun and Moon

[viscid wren]

Idk what you were looking at, I saw a lot of hate for lets go

I did also see a lot of unjustified hate for alola altogether

Other than the point that theres just way too much unskippable dialog and cutscenes

[inner ether]

Trying to think of things that be fun to add

[crystal cosmos]

Make sure the anti-soft lock tentacool gift still exists in this

[scenic crystal]

Alola region had more issues than that. I would say the first problem for me is the fact USM is exactly the same as SM with more stuff tacked onto the end. Making playing SM a waste of time and playing USM extremely repetitive if you had already done so. When this is all part of a weaker Pokémon story and region made compound, Z cells are frustrating and grindy even by Pokémon standards. And the several islands while a great idea made it much more complicated to find the place you were looking for across multiple maps.
Z moves while a decent mechanic felt underwhelming coming directly after the Mega generation.
So yeah a bit more than long dialogue scenes.

[full bison]

There's like one or two towns on each island with sparce routes and very notable landmarks. How is it complicated to find anything on Alola?

[viscid wren]

Id argue against half of those, it is a little cheap to be just sm+ and it is repetitive. The story also was lack luster but the region itself was a blast, it was packed full of exploration and sidequests to enjoy

[crystal cosmos]

Can PIFH actually have a Dragon Ascent move tutor so Rayquaza can actually learn the move please and thanks

It is funny how Rayquaza can’t even learn its sig move

[viscid wren]

Does PIF not have one? I stg there was

[crystal cosmos]

But it should be able to learn it

[crystal cosmos]

It does not

[viscid wren]

Huh

[gray vine]

There are a few move tutors in the game

Wiki says dragon ascent is only usable via metronome

[viscid wren]

Indeed

[inner ether]

Well not wrong

[viscid fossil]

Imagine if there was an Easter egg where using dragon ascent via metronome would mega a rayquaza fusion

Actually I wonder if you can do that with necrozma

[gray vine]

ultra necrozma exists if thats what ya mean

[rancid nymph]

Would what a Rayquaza fusion?

[lucid oar]

I mean I also think the Unova games are just good enough on their own

[viscid fossil]

I mean
I wonder if metronoming photon geyser would form change it

[lucid oar]

there’s nothing that a remake could do to make it better

also I didn’t think LGPE were that bad

[inland jewel]

making the u-Necro/Rayquaza fusion into Mega Rayquaza

[prime dust]

we do not speak of those games here

they never happened

[rancid nymph]

If we do not learn from the past, we will be doomed to repeat it

[prime dust]

points to gamefreak doing that anyway

[upbeat valley]

any news on when this is coming out

[gray vine]

it gets delayed everytime this gets asked

[viscid fossil]

just a simple numbers game

[rancid nymph]

It’s the opposite. Every time someone asks that, we sacrifice them to the pin gods, and after enough sacrifices, they’ll give Frog enough power to finish the game

[dense cosmos]

How many more sacrifices needed?

[lapis kite]

i hope the new game has pikachu in it. it’d be cool too see

[glass finch]

What's A Pikachu

[dense cosmos]

I think it is a mouse

[viscid wren]

Pikachu? Man thats such a niche mon. I highly doubt

[dense cosmos]

Very easy to defeat one too.
One leaf blade and it's gone.

[crystal cosmos]

Who likes Pikachu anyways. Anyways its supposed evolution, Raichu, is infinitely more popular and liked than it

[full bison]

Crazy how it was designed to be the mascot before Clefairy took the title instead

[viscid wren]

Yeah, we will see how long that sticks though. They are obviously trying to rebrand to also make psyduck a mascot

[dense cosmos]

spheal should be mascot

[wise ridge]

I think that's the yellow thing that copies minikyu

[glass finch]

Sandshrew?

[dense cosmos]

No, it's shiny magikarp.

[viscid wren]

Jigglypuff from an angle

[crystal cosmos]

Please let it be a 146 degree angle

[viscid wren]

Alright, postgame is done

[viscid fossil]

Now you have to play postpostgame

[crystal cosmos]

Actually you need to do pregame now since you skipped that

[errant frost]

i wonder when its coming out

[sterile spoke]

I stand by the fact that LGPE is the best mainline Pokémon has ever looked. Unfortunately, it's an even more barebones Kanto remake, so... swings and roundabouts, I guess. 😛

[sacred pagoda]

I do think LGPE had a really nice 3D style and I wish it had been used on a larger scale game with some model adjustments

(Took me a moment to realize that stood for Let's Go: Pikachu/Eevee lol)

[viscid wren]

It was charming but I don't think it was that noteworthy

It has been a while since I played though

[trail hull]

the style was reused and tweaked for pokopia

[fringe forge]

think lgpe look better then pokopia tbh

[wise ridge]

||don't worry you're not alone||

[inner ether]

Lgpe?

Oh XD

Just read the reply lol

[viscid wren]

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It wasn't #custom-outfits-discussion this time, wow

[sharp ferry]

Hi im curious how close is this to implementation

[viscid wren]

??

Oh wait im thinking of a different channel

[sacred pagoda]

No clue honestly. It depends on when Frog's happy with the finished product ig which could be in the next few days or the next couple weeks or more.

[dense cosmos]

[one eternity of waiting for release later]

[rancid nymph]

We need to sacrifice more people to the pin gods

[glass finch]

PIF More Like Pin, Am I Right

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/crickets-crickets-chirping-silence-awkward-silence-gif-5319192

[vital spire]

When will PIF Hoenn not be released?

[dense cosmos]

Yesterday

[lime flare]

tomorrow

[prime dust]

Feb 33rd

[crystal cosmos]

November 3rd, 2062

[lime flare]

i mean it will... HOPEFULLY be out by then

[crystal cosmos]

[torn crane]

How to make frog happy

[flint tiger]

Feb 29, 2076

And that’s an actual date

[wise ridge]

no feb 29 2092

sadly they are getting rid of leap seconds

[flint tiger]

no, 2076 is a leap year, that’s what I meant

[wise ridge]

2076 was too soon

[dense cosmos]

2278 or whenever fallout 4 happens

[prime dust]

you are correct

ironically it is due to the great war

of

2077

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-johnny-silverhand-keanu-reeves-cyberpunk2077-shades-off-gif-26950453

[fringe forge]

"wake the fuck up samurai- we got PIF hoenn to play"
insert epic rock music here

[dusky notch]

is there a projected launch date?

[sacred glade]

i'm hyped too :)

[vital spire]

12 August 2036

[sacred glade]

i saw a website that propose a download of pokemon infinite fusion hoenn demo is it real or a scam

[fringe forge]

scam

pif has no website

[sacred glade]

ok thank you i was tempted

i can send the link so you can flag it or smth

[fringe forge]

the team cant really do anything about it

[prime dust]

yeah, at best we can make note of it to slog it into the autobot response for a fake website

that way it'll delete the message and go [verbatim] "yeah you dun goofed ya dingus and downloaded a virus/malware"

[light garden]

@sacred glade
Automoderator:
You have sent a link to a fake website to download Pokemon Infinite Fusion. Please run a virus scan if you have downloaded from there and follow our installation guides, type ?tag fakefiles for more info

[fringe forge]

automod already had said website

[sacred glade]

it's already flaged

[fringe forge]

so we good

[sacred glade]

good job team

[prime dust]

haza

likely prob just the same site we already have noted

[sacred glade]

it was the first link ^^

[fringe forge]

the best thing you can do is if you see people talk about an "offical website"
inform them theres no website

[inland jewel]

rule of thumb for search engines is that people can pay to be the 1st link

this usually is AI or scammers who do so its just best to go to the 3rd or 4th instead for actual search results

[rancid nymph]

Why is that a thing. I mean, I know the answer, but why is that a thing

[fringe forge]

dangerous world we live in
gotta be safe irl
and online
Internet security and safety is a major deal

[inland jewel]

corporations gotta make money somehow

[craggy nexus]

Ok it's my birthday u guys can drop the demo today @spice sage @atomic hornet

[atomic hornet]

Done!

let me wrap it up for you

[dense cosmos]

It is just a sprite that says hoenn demo.

[viscid wren]

Its just pif but the titles changed and the professor explains that hoenn was exploded so now kanto is the new hoenn

[atomic hornet]

@craggy nexus Happy Birthday!

[molten loom]

its crazy the way space has been saved, from like 2gb in kanto to 32 kb for hoenn

[atomic hornet]

I'm better at optimizing than frog

[lucid oar]

I’m scared to click on this

[dense cosmos]

it just takes your credit card info. no biggy.
jk, probably just a normal picture

[fringe forge]

hoenn is not real

you should not click it

might be a malware (scary)

[dusk narwhal]

I have been summoned

https://tenor.com/view/broly-gif-20760879

[sacred pagoda]

I'm at a chain of 300 with two shiny Lycanroc... Should I go until it randomly breaks?

[dusk narwhal]

Yes

[sacred pagoda]

YESSSS!!! This is what I wanted! A Full Odds to spawn in place of the radar-odds black star. I love it.

(Fourth shiny pupper from this hunt lol)

[viscid wren]

Thats genuinely awesome

full odds lycanroc midnight when?

[sacred pagoda]

Depends if I find it ig (Though honestly I might Nincada Dupe that girl if I don't find another full odds so I can NG+ them both as Rockruffs)

[viscid wren]

What do ya'll think is gonna happen to this channel after its released?

[sacred pagoda]

It'll still be for Hoenn ig. Maybe #playthrough-talk is there for PIF:1

[viscid wren]

It would be nice in some aspects to keep them seperate

[sacred pagoda]

Maybe #general can be all things PIF, #playthrough-talk can be for PIF:1 and #pif-hoenn-discussion can be for PIF:H

Feels like the best way to go that doesn't involve adding another channel

[viscid wren]

Yeah

[sacred pagoda]

Another radar

[viscid wren]

Blue dogs for days

[atomic hornet]

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[viscid wren]

?

[atomic hornet]

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[sacred pagoda]

LOL

[atomic hornet]

shit

[sacred pagoda]

[REDACTED]

[viscid wren]

[atomic hornet]

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[sacred pagoda]

GG Paya

[viscid wren]

roll for bluff

[atomic hornet]

nailed it

[viscid wren]

[atomic hornet]

jk I love messsing with you guys, it passes the time just stirring the pot

[sacred pagoda]

I accidentally killed it

Coulda had a fourth radar shiny but I was cackling so much I forgot I hadn't caught it yet

XD

[viscid wren]

Reasonable distraction

[sacred pagoda]

Found another full odds no duping will be needed. :>

[dense cosmos]

Save some shiny wolves for us plz

[sacred pagoda]

Steals them all No

[white dew]

Is dusk form possible in IF?

[sacred pagoda]

Sadly no

[white dew]

Huh. With spawn rates already using 3 time ranges, you'd think each would have a lycanroc too

[gray vine]

what does that mean

[viscid fossil]

That was never the fundamental problem

[sacred pagoda]

I think since each one gets its own dex entry Frog opted on a different pokemon in place of having all 3 puppers.

[viscid fossil]

I thought it was because dusk fusions would look the same as midday fusions
Just with more hair

[sacred pagoda]

There are three spawntables in grass routes. One for Night, one for Dawn, and one for Day (I've never seen Dusk have a different encounter table)

[sacred pagoda]

Idk the real reason. Maybe all of the above lol

This chain never ends, I might have to bite the bullet and decide to give up on finding more lol. I also feel like a bully since all the non-shinies are being beat up ._.

[sacred pagoda]

Older demo versions I failed to delete. This is only four of them + their zips. Firesword kept all versions on her PC They take up 2.83 gb each lol

[viscid wren]

Sheesh

[sacred pagoda]

Random be like:

I actually had a Mew as well. No clue what happened to it-

Maybe I transferred it out before Frog banned randomized from Transfer Box

[quaint matrix]

That's a lot of shinies jesus

Did you actually shiny chain

[sacred pagoda]

Yep all of them are either full odds or legit

Idk if I can prove the Suicune is legit JUST yet

XD

But ya'll already know the Lycanrocs are

[dense cosmos]

(throws ball in front of all 4 lycanrocs)

[sacred pagoda]

Also got these I transferred over

[white dew]

Ball! bounds off after it

[sacred pagoda]

[sacred pagoda]

Omg I'm just imagining that happening now lmao

[dense cosmos]

i saw you point that at yourself. XD

[crystal cosmos]

Poor Linoone only 1 star unfused

[sacred pagoda]

Yeahh replied to wrong comment

[sacred pagoda]

None of my radar shinies look good with it

Actually scratch that

Everyone you see in Box 10 is full odds LOL

Proof the shiny Suicune was legit (I had to make sure it was public shinies are visible in the overworld already)

Oh I also have this masterpiece of a shiny anomoly

[proud lion]

Sprite Swap, or the real Hoenn beta testing deal?

[sacred pagoda]

Beta testing

One of these is PIF:1 6.8 being tested

[viscid fossil]

Amazing

absolutely phenomenal

[sacred pagoda]

Ikr. Lol

[west sonnet]

I will answer one question about the beta definitely real honest 100% nation

[crystal cosmos]

Where is Skrelp located

[quaint matrix]

Do we fight Diantha

[west sonnet]

I’ll do you two

[west sonnet]

In the water

[crystal cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[west sonnet]

Who’s diantha again. Did she have a 3d model in her game

Final answer

[quaint matrix]

Yea

https://tenor.com/view/diantha-pokemon-pokemon-xy-gif-25978715

Cynthia's girlfriend

[west sonnet]

She literally didn’t in battle in her game

[quaint matrix]

I'll take that as a fully honest no then

[viscid wren]

Will there be cake?

[west sonnet]

Too late

[viscid wren]

[crystal cosmos]

They have already lied a bunch so what do you think

[sacred pagoda]

Sufficiently transferred to PIF:1. :)

Linoone has no custom with Suicune or any Lycanroc sadly so Linoone stays unfused

[viscid wren]

Sadge

Linoone is goated

[sacred pagoda]

I know

Also since I had two radar and two full odds I gave them each a different form of Lycanroc

[viscid wren]

Wait

[glass finch]

Route 145

[viscid wren]

Why did only the rockruffs devolve

[sacred pagoda]

NG+

I can't use transfer box in a randomized save silly I had to NG+ to classic

Oh dear Arceus this does not look good

I'm sticking to it tho

Probably gonna recolor it at a later date that is not today

[viscid wren]

Is there some msgic secret to recoloring shinies or is it as simple as it sounds

[sacred pagoda]

It is as simple as it sounds. Once you've seen a shiny it is generated in InfiniteFusion\Graphics\Battlers\Shiny

If you wanna make custom shinies Make sure to archive the sprites because they will reset every time you start a new game

I made these for my Umbreon

Idk if I can submit them as official shinies but they were fun to make

[viscid wren]

Omg its adorable

Good to know about the archiving

[white dew]

Now I want to see a lycanroc self fusion

[lucid oar]

can’t wait for people to spend half their messages redirecting newcomers between the two channels

[sacred pagoda]

They'll prolly make a tag for it like they did for questions

?tag question

[opal trail]

Confused on where to ask your questions?
If you need help on installing or updating the game or to report bugs found within the game, go to #tech-support.
For help on proceeding with the story in the game or if you have a gameplay mechanic question, go to #gameplay-help.
If you need help with team building or strategies, you can go to #playthrough-talk.
For all other questions, you can ask in #general and you may be redirected to the appropriate channel for your question.

[viscid wren]

Believe it or not, there is a substantial number of people who can read

I dont think its gonna be horrible

"For help on proceeding with the story in the game or if you have a gameplay mechanic question, go to #gameplay-help"
Idk how many of those questions I answer in #playthrough-talk

[sacred pagoda]

Yeah if you've ever been in general if it's not a Gen 10 topic or serious tech issues we really dgaf

[viscid wren]

I steer clear of general nowadays

Just haven't felt any particular desire to pop in there

[stone yoke]

sadly we don't have the third form, i do love it

[sacred pagoda]

We don't but I did find sprites in the files so I may work on a Cheeto trainer sprite

Essentials probably comes with dusk overworld sprites

[stone yoke]

OH...

[sacred pagoda]

Essentials comes with a lot of sprites

I made an Umbreon trainer

[west lake]

Will there be a whole new storyline on this one?

[sacred pagoda]

Yes

Where-as PIF:1 uses some dialogue from FR/LG/HG/SS and also uses its routing, Hoenn will be the same but for RSE/ORAS

[west lake]

Ok

[lucid oar]

should we be expecting more along the lines of RSE or ORAS? or will it be different enough that it doesn’t really matter

[sacred pagoda]

Both kinda, but also original story and some important graphics

Take a look at how Frog looked at Team Rocket and applied fusion to their plans and it completely changed the story

Then use that logic with Hoenn

[lucid oar]

are we getting delta episode? or is going into space over the budget /j

[sacred pagoda]

Who knows, Frog's timeline DOES say Postgame and considering no other regions are CURRENTLY planned

[molten loom]

We already went to space in pif one, somewhat, looking through the telescope totally counts

[viscid wren]

I hope for the 1-6 update we get access to Lilycove

[lucid oar]

I suppose the most specific difference I was wondering about is Mauville - are we gonna have RSE Mauville or ORAS Mauville

[viscid wren]

Unless Frog plans on moving the department store

[lucid oar]

(or will we find out when we get there)

[molten loom]

I think they mentioned rse, since oras would be a pain to recreate

but thats for the future

[viscid wren]

I believe its all but comfirmed that its gonna be RSE mauville yeah

[lucid oar]

yeah okay I figured the engine lent itself better to RSE that checks out

[viscid wren]

But spiced up a bit most likely

[molten loom]

we'll see what paya meant by this eventually I guess

[fringe forge]

plot twist mauvile got replaced by another town

[molten loom]

Mauville is actually just viridian again with the walk of shame ledge by the gym entrance

[viscid wren]

Mauville got replaced by Olivine with 0 explanation

[fringe forge]

i will 100% accept it

[molten loom]

and nobody will know since most people haven't seen it in pif

[viscid wren]

Exactly

[lucid oar]

oh my god please yes

[rancid nymph]

I mean, for part 1, Mauville is going to look like Olivine does in PIF1

[viscid wren]

Wait a minute, Hoenn has an early optional rival fight...

[fringe forge]

secret garden 2.0?

[viscid wren]

Hoenn Secret Garden!?

[full bison]

The Mightyena color scheme works pretty well IMO, but that scarf is definitely off.

[inland jewel]

i can see Mauville being the RSE mauville with some of the stores from ORAS in there

with a sign that says. "Future Mauville Mall Plans"

[flint tiger]

considering that PIF takes place before the main series games right? maybe it’ll be interesting if PIF Hoenn takes place at a different time than the main hoenn games

though it’s prob already figured out when PIF Hoenn takes place

[molten loom]

no? PIF is set to firered time

[flint tiger]

Alrighty then. I haven’t been up to date on everything that’s been going on, so that’s good to know.

[sacred pagoda]

Actually I think it is somewhere in the timeline considering the reason for Mt Silver-

SPOILERS AHEAD FOR PIF:1

||I don't think this is confirmed but I like to think that when the Sinnoh trio takes you through time to the future, that's the reason Red is on the mountain in HGSS and you face him as Gold.||

||I don't remember if they actually time travel or travel through the dimensions but I think I remember it being time travel||

[molten loom]

||its set to firered time, you get sent forward to hgss time by paldiatina and then sent back, but besides that its firered||

[sacred pagoda]

Ahh okay

[inland jewel]

yee because HGSS explicitely states it takes place 3 years after LGFR

so in order for the timelines to line up "that" had to happen

[full bison]

We already know PIF Hoenn is taking place at around the same point as PIF 1 because ||the gym leader guy mentions the Goldenrod gym leader moved to Hoenn with his family, strongly implying that the original Goldenrod gym leader was Norman. So by the time of PIF 1, Norman and his family had at the very least just moved to Hoenn.||

[spice hatch]

PIF Hoenn will be continuation to Jhoto? Like something we need to do after Jhoto or it will be different?

[atomic hornet]

The answer to your question can be found in the FAQ that's pinned

[rancid nymph]

Hey Paya, how many more sacrifices do the pin gods need before the game is finished?

[atomic hornet]

PIF1 canonically takes place during the originals/frlg. This means that the johto portion is actually 3 years before gsc/hgss

[atomic hornet]

They are getting quite satisfied!

Could almost say decently full

[trail hull]

I think it might release for mergemay day 31

After all the 31st is usually used for special stuff

[molten loom]

now its just the cobblestone demons that need to be fought again

[atomic hornet]

and that one fucking rug

[viscid wren]

Out of context this sounds like ya'll are in a dungeon in dnd

Or a Minecraft server with horror mods

[rancid nymph]

So how many pin gods sacrifices are needed for the cobblestone demons and how many for the rug?

[full bison]

I would like to know about the cobblestone demons

[full bison]

Mr. Sir Dweller mod when

[viscid wren]

Tonight the pin gods feast

[rancid nymph]

That’s one sacrifice closer to defeating the cobblestone demons and rug so PIF Hoenn can come out

[viscid wren]

Pride Hoenn when?

[dense cosmos]

Can't you just burn it or is it fire proof?

[viscid wren]

Its a mimic

[atomic hornet]

Honestly at this rate, I'm considering burning it

[rancid nymph]

I’ll get your Torchic

[atomic hornet]

As soon as I'm done with my nap that I'm failing at taking, I'll show you this fucking garbage half pixel mess of a rug

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-sully-you-go-to-sleep-go-to-sleep-go-to-bed-gif-22295511

[sacred pagoda]

Make one that has a fire type symbol as a joke

[lucid oar]

I want a Pokemon DnD campaign

can an event organizer get on this

[rancid nymph]

There are way to many people on this server for that to be possible

[crystal cosmos]

You can limit the participants lol

[ivory seal]

What is everyone excited for in PIF:Hoenn? I am excited to see best seal

[quaint matrix]

I want Mightyena

I can finally make that wolf like

Marginally less bad

[ivory seal]

https://tenor.com/bUSuj.gif

[ivory seal]

What's wrong with Houndoom?

[quaint matrix]

I said Mightyena tho

[ivory seal]

I'm joking a bit

[viscid wren]

Since everyone has said a pokemon, I will too
Spinda and Relicanth

[inland jewel]

Hariyama and Gorebyss

[full bison]

Chimecho

Not even a Pokémon I'm normally a fan of, but the sprites for it have been amazing

Masquerain is also pretty exciting spritewise

[viscid wren]

What I am looking forward to most that isnt a pokemon is def dexnav

[full bison]

Custom battle backgrounds are pretty exciting too

[viscid wren]

Oh yeaj

Don't get me wrong, everything they have announced is soooooo cool

Dynamic weather is sick

Im most excited for dexnav cause its one of the few ways I will actually shiny huny

[sacred pagoda]

Though the weather was blowing the trees away for a bit

[viscid wren]

That sure is wimdy

Frog should add natural disaster weathers

[sacred pagoda]

I mean this is Hoenn, ain't that kinda part of the plot already?

[viscid wren]

Yeah, I realized it after I said it

[dense cosmos]

100% chance of landslide when kyogre wakes up.

[atomic hornet]

Okay sorry long day, this is the evil rug

[viscid wren]

[atomic hornet]

The more you look at the edges, the worse it gets this has been the bane of my existence and I haven't had the time to dedicate to it. Not a quick fix that's for sure

[viscid wren]

Definitely not a quick fix, that looks like hell to work with

[quaint matrix]

As a non-artist ngl I don't see the wrong part

[atomic hornet]

Unlike the other rugs I've already fixed in the tilesets, this one also has half pixels, and I can't make it bigger due to the tile pixel allowance

[quaint matrix]

Is it the first image and how awkward the section lines are?

Connecting lines

Whatever the word is

[viscid wren]

Its the half pixels

[quaint matrix]

Again idk where the half pixels are

[viscid wren]

Its kinda hard to explain whats so bad about it

[atomic hornet]

the biggest mistakes are mostly in these areas

[viscid wren]

Well, I have nothing but time atm. I can't make any promises since this one is a bit beyond what I am confident I can handle but it would be good experience for me to atleast fiddle around with it

[atomic hornet]

not to mention the designs in the corners where there's a brownish/grayish/yellow(?) base with a a dark gold color on top of it that you cant even see without straining your eyes

[atomic hornet]

If you want, it just 100% can't be expanded on lol

[viscid wren]

Yeah, no expanding the rug. Got it

[atomic hornet]

that's because of where it sits in the tileset, and that the tippy top of the rug is against the top of that tile. I suppose in theory it may be able to be brought down a few pixels, but that could potentially open up a can of worms

here's the tileset with everything erased to avoid possible spoilers I left some other rugs so you can see how they kind of work. I highly suggest using a 32x32 grid to see where the tiles lay

[viscid wren]

Definitely not worth, thats gonna look really weird and take a lot to work around

[atomic hornet]

This is one of the things I do for pif, but I'm curious to see what you would do, since you want the practice. And you do so much for me in errors that I trust you it would be nice to take a break soon

[viscid wren]

You all have been working so hard, its the least I could do to help

I will start tomorrow

Especially since the sprite errors is still me technically giving ya'll more work

[atomic hornet]

but to show you how tiles work in rpg maker, on the left I have the corner of that rug selected on the tile sheet, and I put it on top of a black layer. It's a neat thing to show as this is how maps are created from the ground up. We only have 3 layers to work with, but if I'm being real, it's only really two layers. It's neat and challenging

[atomic hornet]

haha I have a great team, they can handle it 💪 I trained them real good to handle almost anything

[viscid wren]

I have worked a smidge with rpg maker map making and tilesets

[atomic hornet]

Still a cool thing to show people in here who were interested! The thing about tilesets is that once you change something in that png file, it changes that spot for every tile that used that exact place in the tileset for all maps in the game. That's why we need to be careful. And any changes I make to the tilesets I also try update in pif1 as well, since the assets are very similar. I've actually been working a little on pif 1 graphics, so its a whole thing

[viscid wren]

Indeed yeah, its actually a really cool process

[atomic hornet]

yay for a look in the background! I'm more than happy to explain some of the process, as long as its nothing that could potentially give something away

I love talking about this shit, same for giving lectures on the back workings of the server

[viscid wren]

I certainly wouldnt mind some more refreshers on how it all works, especially since you definitely have a much better understanding of it than I do

[atomic hornet]

Not tonight though, I didnt get any rest when I was trying to nap earlier and I dont feel well it was 93-94 today, and I wilt in heat. I'm gonna head to bed shortly

[viscid wren]

That fine cause I just looked at the clock and I am kinda trying to go back to having a somewhat consistent sleep schedule so I will be sleeping now lol
You take care, I feel you about the heat I am not a summer weather person I just melt especially since we have high humidity

[lucid oar]

I’m just excited to enjoy a Hoenn game a ton honestly (not a fan of RSE and so-so on ORAS)

if PIFH is nearly as good as PIF, it’ll probably be by far the most I’ve enjoyed a Hoenn playthrough and probably the first time I’ve been legitimately excited to do one

[trail hull]

I thought you were joking when you said there was an evil rug

[flint tiger]

why is it smaller than the tile next to it? idk if that’s a thing that would be bothersome to people

but is it weird that they’re not the same size?

[atomic hornet]

No, with tiles you can make them as big as you want. You want things in the tileset to be as small as possible. Think of them as building blocks

[atomic hornet]

If you want the rug extra long, you would repeat the middle section a few times. This screenshot shows how its separated into tiles

Its like Legos, and as long as you have a tile selected, you get an infinite supply

[flint tiger]

I would not have known that, that’s for sharing

And you know what they say

the more you know!

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-10358303

[atomic hornet]

Yep! Its interesting and fun to world build. Frustrating too lol, we get some unique challenges

[sacred pagoda]

When you step on the rugs does it feel like you took a bullet to the foot Since they are like legos

[molten loom]

its honestly shocking how nobody has noticed this before since this rug is used a lot in kanto

[atomic hornet]

Its why everyone wears shoes in Kanto

[viscid wren]

Everyone secretly has steel toed boots

[molten loom]

It's in every hotel for example

[stray spear]

oh that's foul

[viscid wren]

Yeah I realized that after they showed it with the bed

[sterile spoke]

Hm, I think the solution there would be to fix either the top row or bottom row and just flip it upside-down, so it ends up either as tall as the top one or with a slight gap like at the top like the bottom one. 🙂

[molten loom]

and now that you've noticed you won't be able to unsee it till it gets fixed

[viscid wren]

No, no I will not

[atomic hornet]

Suffer with us

[full bison]

Wasn't there also a whole thing a while ago where sprite artists were looking back at GSC sprites and were horrified at the amount of color similarity present? Cause this situation kinda reminds me of that

[viscid wren]

Rug successfully isolated, it took me far too long that my grid positioning was off by 4 pixels

[empty elbow]

anyone know the release date for hoenn demo?

[atomic hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/imagination-rainbow-soontm-spongebob-gif-9161732869085950743

[sacred pagoda]

It'll release when it releases

[empty elbow]

was just wondering cause in the announcement it was said early 2026 and its nearly june now lol

[sacred pagoda]

Don't forget Paya and Frog don't get paid for this game so it's something that has to be worked on in their spare time.

Even us testers don't get paid and only test in our spare time to make sure the first release is stable

[empty elbow]

only 2 people work on it? thats crazy

the game looks amazing

[atomic hornet]

Thank you!

[empty elbow]

thank you for your service

[atomic hornet]

The demo is basically finished, but there are some important things we have to wait on before releasing

[inner ether]

Are contests gonna be a thing?

[atomic hornet]

Not in the demo lol

[sacred pagoda]

Indeed. But not in the first release

[sacred pagoda]

Do you know if they'll be in the 2nd release (Up to gym 6)?

I'm just curious tbh

[atomic hornet]

It's looking like that's going to be the case

[empty elbow]

ah i was just genuinely wondering cause i was recommending the hoenn version to a streamer and was looking if there was any news on the demo, art needs time

[inner ether]

Well of course I wasn't gonna expect it in the first town lol

[inland jewel]

its a planned feature, but not guarenteed last i heard

[sacred pagoda]

It's guaranteed just not in the 1st release lmao

[molten loom]

paya is here confirming it

[inland jewel]

you see, the last i heard about it before paya said anything was that it was giving a lot more trouble than anticipated so its been moved from guarenteed to "maybe"

[trail hull]

there's may in maybe

[inland jewel]

yeah but may =/= It will happen

[atomic hornet]

In general, yes contests are a big mechanic and they were always planned! It proved to be complicated coding wise, so we couldn't get it in. When we started development, there weren't any available "mods" for essentials that included it and the one we did find was incompatable. So it's something frog would have had to code from the ground up, more or less. We have since found a base recently that he can work and build from

[trail hull]

no may as in the month

[trail hull]

I'm supprised it isn't widespread

[atomic hornet]

I genuinely hope so I've been anxious for the release for a while, but there are factors that are forcing us to wait

[inner ether]

I mean other then Ruby, sapphire, emerald, omega sapphire and alpha ruby there isn't any contests though i think x and y had something can't remember

[trail hull]

You proably can't talk about them but I'm really interested to know about , I'd like to know what was holding all of you when you can say it (prob after demo release)

[viscid wren]

Probably more resources for later versions of essentials, I cnt imagine many people are still making v19 resources

[trail hull]

May 31st

[atomic hornet]

Yeah this is something I can't talk about lol. I can only give my reassurances that its ready, and in this time we're polishing ||and adding things, cause you know how this goes by now ||

[trail hull]

If

it happens in may , it will happen that day

[trail hull]

paya and frog trying to not add a new feature (impossible)

[atomic hornet]

haha at least it's not delaying the release, it's just something we can't help ourselves with

[molten loom]

They are cool features tbf

[inland jewel]

turns out while contests are beloved, its a huge hassle to actually impliment

i wonder how many other fangames that aren't romhacks actually make use of contests?

[trail hull]

all fun and dandy until you realize that the feature can be used to skip the entirety of the game and permanently brick the save file

[atomic hornet]

Can't be that many tbh, and if they do, they're using a different version of essentials

[viscid wren]

My first thoughts on what to do to the forsaken rug

[inland jewel]

DPP have contests in them (the same as Hoenn's)

BDSP noteably doesn't

[trail hull]

and doesn't ruby omega and sapphire alpha also have contest?

[atomic hornet]

Already an improvement! I see you decided to go inwards out

[inland jewel]

and then BW/B2W2 have Sinnoh's 1st stage of the contests

[viscid wren]

genuinely have no idea how you figured that out, that was some sherlock holms levels perception

[atomic hornet]

I spent a lot of time looking at this garbage

[crystal cosmos]

After the rug is done can you add a sidequest where you burn the rug down

[atomic hornet]

I would love that

[viscid wren]

I scaled it down to 16x16 and polished from the middle outwards

[inland jewel]

add in a sidequest after that where the owner of said rug has you acquire a new one for him

[viscid wren]

The corners are still very crunchy

[atomic hornet]

The funny thing is that I dont think it's used in hoenn this is part of the pif 1 restoration I'm doing on the side that hoenn could benefit from lol. The tilesets are basically the same, just rearranged and copied. This rug fix will actually span across several tilesets, since we designed hoenn to have smaller and unique ones. Overall it's better practice, but in times like these I hate it. Meanwhile pif 1 has a couple massive tilesets that doesn't have room for unique assets

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-10358303

[molten loom]

||Not sure if it is in hoenn atm, but it is in the tilesets so it can be used in the future||

[viscid wren]

Yeahhhhhh I learned that leason the hard way

My maps were so boring lmao

[molten loom]

I might check to see if it is used actually

I have an idea of some places it might be

[atomic hornet]

At least this way each town/gym could have neat assets that set them apart from other places. Now besides this rug, we also have evil cobblestone me and Firesword have been dealing with this for months

Do you have a before and after?

[viscid wren]

I can make one rq

[sacred pagoda]

It could work if this was stretched to one more pixel

[atomic hornet]

No I meant firesword, with the cobblestone lol

[viscid wren]

I was about to ask lol

[viscid wren]

I actually think the top corners are the bigger issue but yeah that'll prob improve the look

[atomic hornet]

It's a good wip in my eyes you're doing great

[sacred pagoda]

Copy/paste and flip /hj

[atomic hornet]

and it helps me a lot! I have a lot of other things to fix lol

[molten loom]

I can quickly take pictures as I have versions with it messed up

[atomic hornet]

the patternon the sides would need to be adjusted then so it aligns properly

[sacred pagoda]

Oh true

[atomic hornet]

yesssss, show these fine folks the bullshit that we dealt with

I hope this makes observant people happy

[molten loom]

its certainly much cleaner to look at even if you don't look closely

before, missing pixels in the lines and extra pixels

now going to touch up more

[viscid wren]

Its looking a lot better now but damn

Cobblestone demons indeed

[atomic hornet]

Funfact, this cobblestone is the main one used for Rustboro, so it was everywhere

[viscid wren]

Yeah, I gathered as much. Looks like Rustboro

[crystal cosmos]

Cobbleboro

[viscid wren]

Hows this rug? I think I toned down the crunchyneds

As long as you dont like intensly stare at the corners

[atomic hornet]

looking a lot better, at a glance this is the only thing I can see that needs to be the gold trim

[viscid wren]

Yeah, I can push the trim in that shouldnt cause any issues

(Famous last words)

Yep no issues there, def doesnt completely destroy the top right corner

[pallid minnow]

This wait isnt too bad when we think about Aurora Crystal

[viscid wren]

Something something GTA6

Funny idea
Make a rug the player gets stuck on if they walk on the middle, they have to spin to get unstuck
The rug is actually a mimic-esk stunfisk fusion that they then have to battle

[trail hull]

ditto/stunfisk

[viscid wren]

Im thinking more Bisharp/Stunfisk since bisharp has red and yellow like the forsaken rug

[trail hull]

yes but the sprite could be randomized

so it woudl'nt look too much like arug

while it if it was a ditto/stunfisk fusion that morph into a rug would make sense

[viscid wren]

Point taken

[inner ether]

https://tenor.com/view/pengu-pudgy-penguin-pudgypenguins-still-waiting-gif-15917402267108232276

[sacred pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/silence-of-the-lambs-hannibal-lecter-doctor-patience-good-things-gif-17473846

[viscid wren]

We have a saying about patience where I come from

...thats all

[stable moth]

This could be a stretch, but do you guys think that Ground and Kyoger are going to be getting their primal forms in this game.

(Probably not because it’s probably gonna be a sprite)

[gray vine]

no

[dense cosmos]

Huge probability, no.
Mainly due to then people will want mega evolution

[viscid wren]

Im pretty sure its a definitive no, they count as megas

[crystal cosmos]

They don’t at all but they’re still not gonna

[sacred pagoda]

Primal reversion is grouped with mega evolution

I think it even requires the mega ring to work

[crystal cosmos]

Nope

And it doesn’t count for your mega slot

You can have a mega and both primal at once

[viscid wren]

Its close enough

[crystal cosmos]

If they were a mega, it would count as a mega when using it, and therefor block you from using another mega

[viscid wren]

Besides its still a gimmick

[crystal cosmos]

Yeah they’re not adding more gimmicks

Fusing is the whole shtick

[viscid wren]

You could argue that ultra necrozma is as well but like

[crystal cosmos]

They changed it from z to just an item

[viscid wren]

Groudon and kyogre already have so many primal sprites just leave them be

That'd be a nightmare to move

[stable moth]

Ehh just thought it’d be an interesting idea since Necrozma changes into his light form whenever he’s holding his Z-crystal, and since Ground and Kyoger changes into their primal forms, whenever they hold their orbs, it’s kind of the same thing.

[crystal cosmos]

It’s not a z-crystal in this game tho. It’s just an item.

[viscid wren]

The item is literally a z crystal, its just changed so you dont have to use a z move

[crystal cosmos]

So therefore it’s not a z-crystal because there’s no zmove that happens

It’s just a crystal

[viscid wren]

If we wanna get technical, it could just be that we dont have a Z Ring

[crystal cosmos]

No z-move happens, it’s just its regular moves

[viscid wren]

Just because we cant use the z move, doesnt mean its not a z crystal

[crystal cosmos]

Agree to disagree then because it is not a z-crystal

[viscid fossil]

This is like saying the rse red orb isn't a red orb because it can't cause primal reversion

[crystal cosmos]

In rse they’re too stupid to use it properly

[viscid fossil]

And maybe we're too stupid to use z-moves properly

[viscid wren]

Am I the only one who understood why the red orb was originally for kyogre and vice versa

I hear so many people say it makes 0 sense

[crystal cosmos]

Again, agree to disagree, because I will never believe it’s a z-crystal

[viscid wren]

Okay, I say originally. I realize in RS it wasnt so

But it made sense to me that it was changed in emerald

[pearl briar]

Is pif hoen out? If not, when is it releasing?

[empty elbow]

Its fine anyway

[viscid wren]

How many times are they gonna get sacrificed, that was 3

[empty elbow]

Im nuzlocking plat kaizo till its out so pif hoenn can come out in 2029

[pallid minnow]

Plat Kaizo Ironmon will have you running til 2035

[rancid nymph]

That’s a generous estimate

[viscid wren]

Is that platinum kaizo, ironmon
Or platinum, kaizo ironmon

[dense cosmos]

We probably need more sacrifices.
Pin restock here:
📍 🧷 📌 🪡 🎺

[viscid fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/bfdi-pin-coiny-bfdia-tpot-gif-16658239604257843171

[pallid minnow]

Kaizo Ironmon in platinum

As much as I am excited for this game the built in rando features keep me floating on the original

Time for my 80th failed hard mode nuzlocke

[viscid wren]

You know PIFH is gonna have randomizer as well right?

[pallid minnow]

Yes, yes

[prime trellis]

I just got a update from my calendar app it said check on pif hoen so what's the current status on it

[viscid wren]

How tf do you have no name

Idk if sacrificing this one will work

[dense cosmos]

Status is I got a new pin emote shotgun.
It broke, but I got it!

[dense cosmos]

We have a ghost among us

[prime trellis]

Hehehehehe

[viscid wren]

It hasn't even been a week

[prime trellis]

I've been here forever

[viscid wren]

How did you break it

[prime trellis]

Break what

[viscid wren]

The pin shotgun

[prime trellis]

Is the game up yet tho?

[dense cosmos]

A wall fought me and a brick hit it

[viscid wren]

I am picking up a hidden message

[stone yoke]

what is this box, chat?

[proud lion]

“HoWhen?”

[viscid wren]

Howenn

[prime dust]

you gotta include the extra n

HoWhenn

[trail hull]

Hoennevereleasing

[inland jewel]

preparing balloons for the 7th month of Soon(tm)

[atomic hornet]

Sorry I ended up having a busy day. From what I can see, its looking great!

[viscid wren]

Anything else still need fixing? I won't be able to tend to it or send it until a bit later when I am back home

[atomic hornet]

I think this is it for now, thank you! Its the main one used everywhere in all hotels and some other buildings

[sacred pagoda]

Hire her to help you fix the ten million graphical issues across the entirety of PIF:1

There are so many

[viscid wren]

I'd be willing to help lol

[viscid wren]

I'll send over the file as soon as I can then!

[atomic hornet]

Omg bro, im having to move shit around the map due to priority issues so much that I cant do cause it would affect another map somewhere

[trail hull]

fixing tile error seems fun

[atomic hornet]

Lamppost thats somehow behind a roof in pewter? Its moved more into the street now

[trail hull]

Furnitures are a live

Pokemon infinite Ikea

[viscid wren]

Figuring out tile layering can be quite a hassle but I personally enjoy building maps

[trail hull]

I've been making maps on a different program but when I heard that rpg maker xp has only 3 layers (+ the event layer) I was scared

[viscid wren]

I also happen to be quite good.... at making maps look boring and way too geometrically shaped

[atomic hornet]

I love it, it sucks getting started l, but once you're in the zone its relaxing. And then throw it at frog when something is too complicated. Wait until you see what he did with 110, he pulled some magic off for that one

[trail hull]

this map uses six layers , I would not survive with only 3

[viscid wren]

Only having 3 isnt as bad as it sounds

[trail hull]

wait route 110 is the route just before slateport

[trail hull]

Having infinite layer makes it so easy and fun

[viscid wren]

Route 110 is an exception. That had to be hell

[trail hull]

oh looked it up

[viscid wren]

Or am I thinking Route 111?

[trail hull]

actually route 110 is the one with cycling road

[viscid wren]

Okay yeah 110

[trail hull]

I thought the demo would stop before that

[viscid wren]

Stops at the rival fight on route 110

[sacred pagoda]

Rival Battle on that route is demo end

[viscid wren]

So we will only get a glimpse at route 110

[trail hull]

oh so this is the last map

unless the planned more

[rancid nymph]

*part 1 end

[trail hull]

it would be funny if there was a bunch of politoad blocking the way to mauvile so that we could still see the full route

[sacred pagoda]

Yeah that

[viscid wren]

Thered have to be a LOT of politoad cause of borders

[trail hull]

Yes make it a whole swarm

Also paya , what happened to that list of mon that was spoilered for some reason?

[viscid wren]

I believe that was completed

[trail hull]

oh it did?

[viscid wren]

Everything was crossed off so

[trail hull]

and let me guess , nothign happened after it was crossed off?

[viscid wren]

Nothing was stated about what the list was though I hold my speculations

[dense cosmos]

Can't end the demo run if we don't approach rival.
-# jk. I'm not about to farm exp before that point and steam roll rival, or to attempt to bypass to explore the unfinished map.
-# (disclaimer, I wouldn't be able to explore unfinished map anyway)

I might pretend to claim land tho

Maybe draw a tent and wait for part 2

[full bison]

Hope everyone here is prepared for the inevitable swarm of people who don't read ingame text coming here and asking "how do I get to Mauville?"

[dense cosmos]

Pin mini gun ready for that

Also, we might get contest questions. I am doubting those will be available.

[rancid nymph]

And we shall sacrifice them to the pin gods so that they’ll give Frog the power to finish part 2

[viscid wren]

Will not be available confirmed

[west sonnet]

Don’t worry its very clear

[sacred pagoda]

"How do I play on Android" will be the more likely question

[prime dust]

step 1: go onto amazon
step 2: buy a prebuilt gaming pc

[sacred pagoda]

It's not expensive at all

[magic radish]

What stage is the demo in now?

[inland jewel]

bug testing, (but they might ad more stuff)

because its been in bug testing (almost complete) but at the last moment they add new events, which causes it to enter bug testing again for the last few months

kid you not the message since February: "Oh yeah its almost done, we're just bug esting" on the final day of that month "So... we added more stuff, it'll be done by next month"

March 30th "So yeah... we added more stuff, it'll be done by next month promise"

April 31st "So about it being finished this month.... we added more stuff , soon (tm) it'll be done by next month"

[magic radish]

Ty for the information

[sacred pagoda]

@magic radish

Message from Paya yesterday

[inland jewel]

so they added more stuff

[rancid nymph]

But what do we have to wait on?

[inland jewel]

bug testing

and probably finishing up the last of the events

[sacred pagoda]

Important things not for the public's eyes :X

[rancid nymph]

Ok, but what if I just so happened to drop a 100 dollar bill by your feet

[flint tiger]

$200 in a closed handshake

[bleak fog]

You know what would be an interesting thing to see in PIF Hoenn, but would be really hard to implement because how in the good gravies would you do it???
... Rotation Battles.

[potent karma]

Imagine if Cheeto doesn't live in a place that uses any form of dollar

[sacred pagoda]

Add an extra zero at the end and you got a deal

[flint tiger]

what about two zeroes? and there’s no take backs

[sacred pagoda]

Even better

[flint tiger]

alrighty, here’s your $100.00

[sacred pagoda]

Nope a decimal wasn't part of the deal

[flint tiger]

I asked if you wanted two zeroes, you said yes

and you can’t take back

[sacred pagoda]

Decimals not part of the deal sorryz

[flint tiger]

now give up whatever the deal was, because I don’t know what information we’re buying from you

[sacred pagoda]

Nah

[west lake]

Do we know yet when the full game will be ready?

[dense cosmos]

We need to find a way to stop them adding new stuff.

-# next thing I know, they add a new fish in the ocean museum in slateport

[flint tiger]

at this rate, they’ll implement fusing pokemon mid-battle

[viscid fossil]

Tm00 fusion beam

[viscid wren]

@atomic hornet here is the not so forsaken rug

[dense cosmos]

Needs a cat on it

[flint tiger]

needs a family of cats

[inland jewel]

hmm not enough cats, please add more/

[viscid wren]

Wth

Great, you all made the cats too powerful, now they are invisible

[flint tiger]

now give one of them a fancy top hat

[atomic hornet]

I love the new additions

[viscid wren]

Lmao

[crystal cosmos]

Now burn the rug (the cats are fireproof)

[inland jewel]

a fire cat? Torracat?

[flint tiger]

I feel like this is some kind of game, but I don’t know the name of it

Ya know, someone draws stuff, then people add to it, pass it to the next person

[full bison]

Now draw them teleporting bread

[inland jewel]

i know its on Discord Activities

[flint tiger]

I don’t think it’s gartic phone, cuz that involves guessing

[inland jewel]

gartic phone does have a mode where you draw something and the next person adds onto it

its not just draw, guess, draw

[flint tiger]

Maybe the r/place on reddit? Is that a thing that people draw stuff and add on?

[inland jewel]

there is also the animation mode

[viscid wren]

The house burned down in the fire, ya'll got the bad ending

[flint tiger]

Draw a goofy face with big eyes, everything is happy

[dense cosmos]

In my defense, I only said a cat.
I am not with these pyromaniacs.

[flint tiger]

same

[viscid wren]

the cats started the fire

[flint tiger]

while that may be true

that would mean that me and wyvern didn’t start the fire

[full bison]

It was always burning since the world's been turning

[viscid wren]

I will one up you with a more obscure song reference

I'm just kidding guys
I'm the firestarter, twisted firestarter

[inland jewel]

which fire starter are you though? i hope you're not fried chicken

[viscid wren]

The forbidden croc

[flint tiger]

What’s ya fire?

anyone wanna guess what that’s referencing?

[soft tapir]

is the hoenn verisoin up??

[crystal cosmos]

Pin gods are feasting today

[flint tiger]

we gotta do what we must

[rancid nymph]

That just means that PIFH will be out all the sooner

[viscid wren]

What they arent telling you is that it only gives you 1 microsecond per sacrifice

[finite lance]

you guys, i think it would be cool in the scene were groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza fight they trippel fuse and we have to fight them

like with the birds and the gods of sinnoh

[white vault]

Hi, i am curious if you will bring any form of pokeball inheritance into Hoenn.
When bred in gen 7 onwards the egg could take after the pokeball of either parent, which is good for people try to match color of ball to the palette of the pokemon.

In current PIF, i think pokemon take on the regular pokeball after they have been fused/unfused, which i hope is changed with PIF 2.

[sacred pagoda]

They don't, I fuse and unfuse Pokémon caught in other pokeballs all the time and I never noticed them change

[viscid fossil]

In current pif, the fusion will get the ball of the body, and the body will get the ball of the fusion

[summer apex]

it's also worth noting that, in current pif, you can swap the visual of any mon's pokeball to any other pokeball you own for a small fee in Goldenrod

I don't see why that wouldn't be available in hoenn as well

[viscid wren]

Slateport or honestly Rustboro woukd be a good place to put that

Stuff it into the Devon Corp building

[wise ridge]

there is a lot of unused space in the devon corp building

utility wise at least

[inland jewel]

i think putting it on Brawly's place would give you more reasons to come back imo

[dense cosmos]

We're breaking into his home for pokeball upgrades. He won't mind.

[viscid wren]

Eh, I don't see much reason to add stuff to make you head back to dewford. Its more convenient to have stuff like that more bunched up imo

[sacred pagoda]

Guys. So crazy idea

Wouldn't Slateport market make more sense? XD

[viscid wren]

Besides. You could just give Dewford a pokemart for an exclusive pokeball or something

And Granite Cave seems like a great place to hide a legendary

[viscid wren]

I did say Slateport or Rustboro yeah

[sacred pagoda]

Rustboro devon corp building is already relatively filled with NPCs

So I think Slateport would make the most sense

[viscid wren]

I think thematically putting it in Devon Corp makes more sense
I think practically Slateport makes more sense

[viscid wren]

Slateport Market has plenty of stalls though so idk how much that matters

[sacred pagoda]

Yeah that's why I said slateport lol

[rancid nymph]

Nah, Slateport market makes more sense, cause Devon has nothing to do with Poké Balls

[viscid wren]

I believe the devon corp employee rewards you with a new ball they designed iirc after getting the goods to slateport

Again, I haven't played vanilla gen 3, take my knowledge with a grain of salt

[sacred pagoda]

I don't remember if it's a pokeball or pokenav app tbh and can't check right now lol

In PIF:H I mean

[viscid wren]

so you are telling me you guys do have that part of the quest done

[wise ridge]

devon co has a lot of employees taking up physical space but they dont actually do much you could give some of them uses

[viscid wren]

Its easy to miss that since no one tells you to go back to Rusturf Tunnel

[wise ridge]

its like functional dead space

[molten loom]

Whose to say they don't have uses in pif hoenn

[wise ridge]

whose to say they do before the demo releases

[viscid wren]

you realize they bugtest right? They absolutely know

[sacred pagoda]

Firesword and I know but you don't

[wise ridge]

yea but nobody is gonna get an answer out of you

we gotta wait and see

[viscid wren]

Aaaaand thats a song stuck in my head now

You know what would be a funny way to give us little bits of information? 2 Lies and a truth

Obviously yknow, itd have to be approved information but it would be funny

[wise ridge]

god i cant wait for this game to come out

[viscid wren]

PIF:Hoenn has been scrapped. They are converting it to PIF:Skyrim

Okay ngl, I would LOVE to see a Skyrim based pokemon fangame

[dense cosmos]

i used to be a pokemon trainer like you, but then i took a luvdisk to the knee

[rancid nymph]

Don’t worry, I’ll avenge you by killing that stupid fish

[viscid wren]

Arrowkuda would be better

Or however tf its spelled

Stupid fast gen 8 phisch

[rancid nymph]

NGL, I regularly forget that Arrokuda and Barraskewda exist

[viscid wren]

As you should

I mean, Barraskewda actually is a decent mon but

[dense cosmos]

i chose luvdisk because arrow to the knee means they got married

-# so in other words, they gave a luvdisk to symbolize marriage

[rancid nymph]

It’s a pure water type in a sea (pun intended) of water types

[viscid wren]

Actually, that was a myth

[inland jewel]

i want to forget that barroskewda exists, but he's a menace in vgc iirc

[dense cosmos]

I vote we don't allow pokemon trainer nazeem

[viscid wren]

Nazeem is the rival

Maven Black-Briar is the evil team leader

[sacred pagoda]

I support this

XD

[viscid wren]

This is going into my list of ideas, if I ever learn to code I might actually follow through

Not as infinite fusion obv

[molten loom]

I feel like having tulius or ulfric could also make sense depending on choices

[viscid wren]

It could but honestly seems like too much hassle and frankly we really need to address how fucking evil Maven is

Of course, the civil war would still need to play some role

But we are getting way off topic

[prime dust]

Do you get to the Cloud District very often? Oh, what am I saying, of course you don't.

[sacred pagoda]

Tulius and Ulfric are the Aqua and Magma of Skyrim

[viscid wren]

Pretty much lmao

Maven is Giovanni
Alduin is Cyrus

[sacred pagoda]

Honestly Skyrim would probably end up more like Insurgence where there are multiple evil teams

Cause you have SO many different groups

[viscid wren]

The companions in a pokemon context are....... interesting

I don't think theres any good way to handle them

[full bison]

Maybe like the following partners in DPPt?

[viscid wren]

??

I am talking about their being werewolves

[sacred pagoda]

They just all have Lycanrocs

[viscid wren]

The issue is, their whole quest line is centered around being werewolves. I guess their quests could just be excluded but its such a big one

[sacred pagoda]

True

[sacred pagoda]

Tbf they could just be able to turn into Midnight Lycanroc

:P

[viscid wren]

Actually wait, duh that could work

Since their lycanthropy is via a curse not a disease

If it was a disease, idk how I would feel about including it due to the lore implications of lycanroc

[prime dust]

it is both a curse and disease

since it can be transmitted

[viscid wren]

I view that more as a side affect of the curse but that does raise another concern

[prime dust]

blame dnd on that one

[viscid wren]

I'd rather keeo the game feeling like a pokemon game which generally does not include... well I am obv not gonna say it lmao

[regal umbra]

So I’m very uneducated on this new game but when is it expected to release?

[full bison]

Sometime soon

There is no set release date

Even that "sometime soon" is just for the demo/part 1 that leads up to Slateport

[dense cosmos]

They keep adding content

[craggy nexus]

It was expected to reléase in april so take a sit and let them cook

[regal umbra]

Honestly I thought it would take longer lol
Is it just a demo or a relatively content filled release

[viscid wren]

Relatively content filled demo

They have done a lot of cooking

[regal umbra]

Alr ty for the info ❤️

[sacred pagoda]

They don't have anything new they're adding to the release, some important things need to be addressed

[craggy nexus]

U say that now but we migth get a new idea like the trumpet and there goes another 2 months

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[viscid wren]

I don't think thats been mentioned here, I think thats suppost to be kept quiet

[molten loom]

I mean malxire has no idea what the trumpet entails, and it has been mentioned

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[craggy nexus]

It has been we just cant give detail but we can tease

[molten loom]

thank you yanmega

[light garden]

No, thank you @molten loom!

[viscid wren]

Oh, I see

My apologies

[dense cosmos]

We can thank yanmega now

[crystal cosmos]

thank you yanmega clanker trumpet

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[crystal cosmos]

Trumpet overpowers thanking

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[viscid wren]

dex clanker

[light garden]

I don't think "Clanker" is in PIF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?

[viscid wren]

Worth a shot

[viscid fossil]

Dex trumpet

[light garden]

I don't think "Trumpet" is in PIF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?

DOOTDOOT

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

DOOTDOOT

DOOTDOOT

[summer apex]

hmm

🎺

damn, it doesn't read emojis anymore

[dense tide]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bbcglastonbury-JtAfv4HtfRe6o8WUns

[summer apex]

back before there was an android guide and the official response was "not available on mobile" you could get the bot auto reply by sending a 📱 emoji

[trail hull]

Okay nothing special on day 31 of mergemay so the gale isn’t suprise releasing that day

[sacred pagoda]

Remember when every time you said phone it would trigger the fucking bot?

[flint tiger]

yanmega bot does so much

thank you yanmega

[light garden]

No, thank you @flint tiger!

[viscid wren]

I certainly remember that

[inland jewel]

yanmega gotta fight the tuba guy, get the trumpet

[light garden]

DOOTDOOT

[viscid wren]

Im gonna leak hoenn information
PIFH will contain hoenn

[soft totem]

when does pifh come out

or is that still tbd

[fringe forge]

everytime someone asks it gets delayed

[soft totem]

oh. my apologies.

[fringe forge]

ye current date is 2039 /j

oh right

pins

[rancid nymph]

No, everytime this gets asked we sacrifice someone to the pin gods and they give Frog more power to finish the game

[fringe forge]

is that a new form of energy drink?

[viscid wren]

Pin God's Sacrifice, now in peach mango!

[fringe forge]

now hold on ....this sounds kinda fire

[vital spire]

Remove the peach and we'd be golden

[gray vine]

Freddy

[dense cosmos]

But wait, if you call now you get one Pinned Souls energy drink 24 pack for 19.95 who's line points, and another 24 pack for free! Call now to get your Pinned Souls energy drinks while supply lasts!
-# jk

[prime dust]

we'll just use existing energy drinks

like Power Thirst

i have mini dated myself with that

[latent tundra]

the hoen pif will be a atualization of the current pif? or another game

[trail hull]

part of me will miss this in liek a year or 2 once hoenn is up to the elite 4

[gray vine]

not sure why the pins there, dont think it says anything about a hoen pif being a atualization

[prime dust]

because pins

[rancid nymph]

Bold of you to assume that part 4 of PIF Hoenn will be out in a couple of years

[trail hull]

You're right , in a couple of years the first demo wil have barely released

[viscid wren]

With like, 100 neat little side things that Paya and Frog couldnt stop adding lol

[trail hull]

alright the demo doesn't go futher then slateport but we added a sidemdoe where you can build a nuclear reactor from start to finsih with 100% accuray to real life

[viscid wren]

This is now how necrozma is obtained, of course this is only the first part of the quest obviously

It ends with you reaching Ultra Megalopolis (idk if thats the right name) and restoring it to its former glory

[trail hull]

but firs you have to sit trhought a lmath puzzle containing the real calculation to enter the multiverse

[viscid wren]

PIFH demo only goes to slateport right now but we did add a sidequest that takes you through the entirety of Kalos

[trail hull]

And then if you beat that you can play kanto all again

[viscid wren]

But Kanto in the distant past

[trail hull]

Like it’s retro styled back in the gameboy era

So fusion are gray scaled

[jagged path]

I keep seeing pif Hoenn. What? Is it a finished thing, or under works, update or whole game Im lost

Woah ok
Just finished pokelore and kept seeing PIFH

Ahhh i see thank you. New game, demo out this year.

[fringe forge]

this just in
a player actually read the faq and it answered his questions

pins for the pin god

[west lake]

Will this version be expanding on the team rocket questline I really enjoyed that part in pif

[rancid nymph]

Considering that Team Rocket have never been in Hoenn (anime Team Rocket doesn’t count) no

But there are going to be Magma and Aqua quest lines

[west lake]

Will we be able to join either of those teams?

[fringe forge]

#dev-updates has a few screenshots of that if you want to look into it

[west lake]

Ok

I just looked at, thx for letting me know I’m excited to get into it now