pif-hoenn-discussion

[ember bear]

make the art yourself 🔥

[full bison]

Kommo-o moment

[red radish]

I am not 100% great at art creation, but I appreciate the sentiment

[trail hull]

Around half of these were here before we added new mons and yet bruxish has more sprites

[tender plank]

shieldon as 9th least sprited 😔

sobs

[outer matrix]

I should probably continue my pirouette pokefan

[trail hull]

Kommo-o In 2 months: 146 sprites
Diancie in less then a week : 163 sprites

I admit diancie is a bit of a cheat but still

[red radish]

People shat on bruxish, but I unironically like bruxish, they are funny, and with fusions can be viable

[ember bear]

(totally not like those diancie sprites were in like a span of a year)

[red radish]

Bruxish haters back off

[full bison]

I have to say that this batch of new Pokemon is definitely one of the best ones when it comes to getting Spriters creative juices flowing. Scrafty, Lurantis, Carbink, Diancie, Slurpuff, Gourgeist, Even Ludicolo and Torkoal get a lot of cool stuff, and Kommo-o fusions do look pretty cool even if they're torture to make

[ember bear]

but who cares diancie is peak!

also carbink getting like 400 sprites 🔥

[trail hull]

Yeah bruxish has some gorgeous fusion but I use it as ref cuz it was despised and still got a lto of sprite

[red radish]

carbink is my little guy, it's a bit strange that there wasn't a one time use key item that gave you one diancie from a carbink

[trail hull]

yes and ust behind it is gourgeist and slurpuff

[red radish]

They were making some good designs in X and Y, hopefully the new legends game captures that same energy

[full bison]

Scrafty is the Mon that has most got my creativity in overdrive. I have abandoned WIP drawings of both Shedinja/Scrafty and Gardevoir/Scrafty, with a Toxapex/Scrafty floating around in the ol' noggin

[red radish]

I was too critical of scrafty as a child

[full bison]

I'm almost confident in Shedinja/Scrafty, but I can't get the side shave right on my Gardevoir/Scrafty

[outer matrix]

scrafty has a cool aesthetic with the baggy pants (which is actually shedded skin)

[red radish]

Yeah he's like a baggy punk

[full bison]

The punk look is fun to work with and it has so much personality too

[trail hull]

yes

[red radish]

Dark types have fun designs

[trail hull]

overall this update adds a lot of cool fusion potential

also luvdisc is getting really fast to a 100 sprites

[full bison]

I just realized that Scrafty/Shedinja will be Dark/Ghost. Surprised that hasn't been made yet, that's one of the most desirable Shedinja type combos

[outer matrix]

Scrafty's Ultra Moon/Violet dex entry: "This Pokémon may be rude, but it takes very good care of its family, friends, and its turf."

Slurpuff was also a great addition since you can get creative with the candy, sweets, and dessert theme it has

[trail hull]

heart candy

[full bison]

This right here getting made is what keeps me going with my drawings. Quote absolutely cooked when she made this with a concept sketch she claimed from me

[trail hull]

gorgeous

[outer matrix]

Love the way that you can barely see the other eye behind the gum

[trail hull]

she veven made transparency

[silent acorn]

Man Slurpuff has so few fusions

[trail hull]

so much you means

[silent acorn]

Yes

Has many

[full bison]

I also wanted to draw up a Slurpuff/Klinklang that was a multi layered gear cake, but someone else made that fusion and made it a much more creative concept

[silent acorn]

Not gonna lie Luvdisc has more than i expected

Actually overshadowed Ludi lol

[full bison]

Cause it's easy

[outer matrix]

Only luvdisc I've made is this

[silent acorn]

Well yes

[full bison]

Head is just pink, body is just heart

[trail hull]

I made a few luvdiscs

[silent acorn]

Ludi its cool by self but mixing it its weird

[trail hull]

tbh it's fun try to fit everything in the heart

[silent acorn]

Ludi gets one, every once in a while it seems

Probably hard to fit some ideas

[full bison]

I wanna see someone go full Kappa with a Ludicolo fusion

[trail hull]

it's much easier to sprite lombre and lotad then ludi

[trail hull]

looks good

[outer matrix]

Cool idea: although the day has already passed, a Dia de Los Muertos themed fusion with dusknoir/ludicolo

[trail hull]

just like spritober , there is nothing like the feeling of making it september of next year

guys do you think we'll get a chritmas bonus?

[full bison]

Just add Abomasnow as our 11th-12th Grass type so we get a Christmas tree

[opaque flare]

xurxitree xD

[deft obsidian]

obamasnow

[trail hull]

xurkitree is clever as it literally have the chritmas lights in its design

[opaque flare]

we get a xurxitree/abomasnow fusion as joke like the cool dino 😄

[full bison]

I wanna see someone make a reference to The Hermit from Persona 3 if Xurkitree is added. The question is what it would be fused with to make that

[outer matrix]

Deliberd/abomnasnow = decorated christmas tree

[red radish]

Imagine you're an alien from another dimension, and you happen to resemble electrical wiring from a different world

That's like if we figured out interdimensional travel, and they got slithering hoses that spit water at you (in the dimension we travel to)

[full bison]

Chat dead, I need to break the silence somehow

Umm

Manaphy for next added Mythical

[dusty arrow]

hi chat

[frank oxide]

xerneas/yveltal when

[full bison]

Maybe next update

[inner quarry]

is there anywhere i can check which pokemons are going to be added to the game in 6.3?

[inland jewel]

[inner quarry]

nevermind

note to self: read pinned messages

also, wow, was Maractus not added for some reason or just forgotten? i literally just remembered about it's existence and decided to check if we have it in

[inland jewel]

We got cacturne so same niches

Frogman usually adds things that are missing be it abilities, moves or sprinting potential

Public vote is the only time we can break that mold

[inner quarry]

got it

[acoustic compass]

I got a quick question, is there a possibility for Lycanroc Dusk to be added?

[molten loom]

no

[acoustic compass]

I'm guessing that programming the chances of Inner Focus onto Rocruff was not possible?

[molten loom]

no it's just not that different from midday for fusions

[acoustic compass]

Ou....ok then

[inland jewel]

Due to them being so similar one got cut

[full bison]

So if we want Tough Claws, we need to get Barbaracle in

[full bison]

I imagine it will take a while for maractus to get added considering we have Cacturne

[glass patio]

ice type magikarp when 🔥🔥🔥

[hot hamlet]

Goo Type Magikarp

[molten latch]

But isnt the event over?

[glass patio]

vote ice type magikarp anyways

[molten latch]

[dusty arrow]

true!

[bitter comet]

I will only vote for ice type magic car when I see a head fusion of it

I need to see the head fusion potential

[viscid fossil]

That's just a pokemon with a terra ice crown

[brittle crow]

This talk of tough claws made me look up what it does and then who has it

And then I found perserker has it, which I have never seen before

I am now a perserker fan

[quaint matrix]

My name holds true

I remain a stalwart, looking for more mono-typed Pokemons getting added

[eager jungle]

i tried to mimic the diamond domain, idk if it's nice or not

-# #1303846174452613272

[full bison]

I'm a fan

[stuck obsidian]

Yohhh guys No guard doesn't affect OHKO moves??

[full bison]

We need to have some semblance of balance

[stuck obsidian]

Ohhh i get i guess it would be cheating if it does work😆😆

[long thicket]

how will shields down ability for minior work?

will they make sprites it or ignore it

[full bison]

When Minior's above 50% HP, it's in Meteor form. At below 50%, it's in Core form. And both are getting sprited

[long thicket]

wow that will be fun

so theres 4 combinations for every minior fusion?

[full bison]

Minior body fusions are a bit more annoying to make, but people are still making them for both Meteor and Core. Some of them are super clever too

I recommend going into #sprite-gallery and looking for Cofagrigus/Minior, it really takes great advantage of the gimmick

[brittle crow]

The sprites for gourgeist fusions will ignore the original gg size right?
Only the base should have the 4 different sizes?

[full bison]

Frog said that the sprites would scale in size for each size variation, but I'm not sure if they start from Super and scale down, start from small and scale up, or start from average and do both

[brittle crow]

Wild. Alright ty

[hexed agate]

all you need to know to know Luvdisc is based

[ripe wigeon]

poor Mightyena. it’s even not in the game yet

[proud lion]

But they did find their true love

[outer matrix]

however, they can't reunite with their true love

[worn copper]

501

It's funny

But that is the very definition of 'mildly annoying'

At the same time, Luvdisc is a hilarious addition so I think it's worth it

[ember bear]

well, if ultra necrozma's form worked as they intended it to be the dex might have been just left at 469

[eager jungle]

yeah, for exemple, i made this trevenant/minior meteor, which imo is really nice

[woeful anchor]

dark bramble

[hazy fable]

tumbleweed

[full bison]

🦗

[dusty arrow]

hi chat

[inland jewel]

Ice type Magikarp is nice, but what about Party Wurmple

[velvet root]

Hi chat

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/plague-doctor-plague-core-worst-doctor-syndrome-miasma-core-gif-15902003

[full bison]

What no possibility of another reveal does to a channel

[fathom ridge]

It’s never been so vikavover

[south sluice]

vikavolt would have been so hype man

although i got torkoal and golisopod so im pretty satisfied atm

[full bison]

Honestly the only Bugs I wouldn't be happy to see added are the Burmy line

[fallen loom]

new mon aren't in the game yet, hence this channel

[fallen loom]

Kingambit looks too much like a guy

[full bison]

Eh, I feel like it's fantastical enough to read as a Pokemon

The only Pokemon I really feel like are too much of "just a guy" are Throh and Sawk

[fathom ridge]

They look like Sesame Street characters

[molten loom]

Perfect for the game where a specific boss is nicknamed big bird by some of the community

[full bison]

Honestly, Gen 5 Pokemon as a whole really feels like 80% "this is some of the coolest stuff ever" and 20% "why." But I don't blame the design team, I'd probably come up with some less-than-amazing designs if I had to make 156 unique Pokemon

[trail hull]

I know there was a 150 at least but where do the extra 6 comes from?

[outer matrix]

there's always going to be that one pokemon in every generation

[full bison]

🐒

[trail hull]

No it can’t be that

Oh you’re right apparently

I always thought it had the amount as gen 1

[fallen loom]

who was called Big Bird???

[molten loom]

||Zapmolcuno||

[fallen loom]

reverse for Gen 9 mon

[dusty arrow]

some of yall hate on gen 9 too much

it gave us clodsire

[fallen loom]

it gave us Flamigo

[full bison]

Nah, that's Gen 8 for me

[stoic canopy]

Think that’s more like 60/40 for Gen 9 but whatever.

[trail hull]

I love clodsire

[dusty arrow]

im fine with flamigo

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/clodsire-pokemon-cute-gif-2927931057342523944

[trail hull]

But latest gen has some power creep

[dusty arrow]

i think its a lil goofy

[stoic canopy]

Boxing glove bird can stay.

[trail hull]

If only clodsire wasn’t poisonous to touch

[dusty arrow]

you dont say

[fallen loom]

they rejected a better designed Flamingo Pokémon!

[full bison]

It should be fine as long as it keeps the spines retracted

[dusty arrow]

actually theres a video of a child getting on top of a clodsire that was made by the official company iirc

so you can in fact hug the clod

[trail hull]

[molten loom]

Luckily it seems people in Pokemon are resistant to poison if oak is anything to go off of

[dusty arrow]

i mean yeah that sucks but

whatever-

[full bison]

Oak is just built different in general

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/toxicroak-tuesday-gif-22972910

[trail hull]

I wish I was in the Pokémon world

[fallen loom]

I wish the Oak segments weren't cut from dub

[dusty arrow]

reminds you of beedrill

[hot hamlet]

And shock. Burn. Freezing.
Are we sure people aren’t Pokémon?

[full bison]

"There's no escaping it. Give up."

[dusty arrow]

there is a lot of implication that humans and pokemon are very close

or humans just are pokemon

[trail hull]

Honestly there isn’t that much threat as ghost type entries are more foklore then anything

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-dusclops-your-soul-is-mine-gif-8617517428467791810

[fallen loom]

humans are the mammals of Pokémon

[dusty arrow]

there are already mammal pokemon

[full bison]

Imagine ticking off a Gothitelle and it just grabs you and shows you exactly how you'll die

[fallen loom]

it was a reference

[stoic canopy]

Yea like 80% of ghost types just kill people just by being around humans if you believe the dex entry’s

[trail hull]

In gen 4 there was a time where people and Pokémon were very close and sit at the same table

Japan variants:
there was a time when people and Pokémon were very close and got married

[trail hull]

Tbh half the entries seems like fantasy

[molten loom]

https://youtu.be/5WhLkS6-7rU?si=JH12BOpDI5YUUKan yeah they're funny

[trail hull]

Like for exemple the whole kitakami dex

[fallen loom]

people hate on Typhlosion, but their kids wound up being hunted and turned into monsters because town people game them enchanted fur coats

[dusty arrow]

kyurem eats people

[full bison]

Hydreigon just destroys everything out of generational trauma

[trail hull]

Don’t worry the kid with purple balls will save us

[dusty arrow]

mega dex entries

[stoic canopy]

Part of the reason why I don’t get why we can’t bring back megas, “well the Pokédex entries said that mega evolution hurts the Pokémon,” yea well, the magma snail should’ve hotter then the sun then.

[dusty arrow]

..they are bringing back megas

[trail hull]

They’re painful but it only happens with a bond

[molten loom]

For how long though, might just be za

[trail hull]

So the Pokémon trust you enough for it

[eager jungle]

[dusty arrow]

probably just za

hello mr crab person

[stoic canopy]

That use to be the expiation though.

[dusty arrow]

or ms

i dunno

[full bison]

I'm convinced that Gamefreak wrote those Mega Dex entries to be so bleak because they didn't want Megas to ever be brought back, and ZA is bringing them back purely because the fans want them so bad

[trail hull]

Hello

[eager jungle]

Mr

[dusty arrow]

cool

[eager jungle]

Hello there

[hot hamlet]

Hello?

[trail hull]

Honestly I think frog gonna keep this chat alive until he’s no longer entertained with our discussion

[hot hamlet]

Someone say Mr?

[full bison]

👋

[dusty arrow]

I GET IT-

[eager jungle]

It'll soon die

[trail hull]

I’m in denial

[full bison]

I'm guessing it'll be dead by Saturday or Sunday

[dusty arrow]

i dont want the new pokemon discussion to die

[hot hamlet]

Either that or we have the SM/USUM issue of “first games were unrefined because we made 2 gens at once. Subsequent games would have set the definitive standard”

[trail hull]

I don’t want spriter-general 2 to die again

[eager jungle]

It'll rise again from its ashes maybe

[dusty arrow]

maybe

[trail hull]

I Hope next year and not just when we reach 1M

[dusty arrow]

same

[full bison]

1 million is way too far off, I'd say 600k would be more reasonable

[dusty arrow]

we are already a third of the way there from 500k

[stoic canopy]

I’d have to guess we’ll get the channel back if we get new Pokémon.

[full bison]

And I'll be right there to try and cope the UBs into the game

[stoic canopy]

I mean where else are hundreds of people going to say that it’s the cherry Pokémon because the hint was cherry.

[trail hull]

I cope luvdisc into the game so maybe

[trail hull]

I remember that

[molten loom]

~~ #event-general was~~

[full bison]

I think I kick-started that IIRC

[stoic canopy]

And a bit here as well.

[full bison]

At least on this channel

[dusty arrow]

ice type magikarp when

[full bison]

I thought I was so clever

[fallen loom]

Oak abuse series:
Professor Oak's Pokémon Lecture
Professor Oak's Big Pokémon Encyclopedia
Professor Oak's Pokémon Holo Caster

[stoic canopy]

When ice cubes is the hint, duh.

[dusty arrow]

fair

[full bison]

I really hope we get a sort of horror ARG-type reveal if we do get the Ultra Beasts added

[hot hamlet]

No ice cream to go with my pumpkins

[full bison]

The Pokemon Go ads really demonstrated how well they integrate into a horror setting

https://youtube.com/shorts/jvcEoCZNeI8?si=zhRA7AVrdrU664pT

[stoic canopy]

Those adds were the closest Pokémon go ever got to making me interested in Pokemon go

[full bison]

It was kinda fun back when it was a huge viral thing and it felt like everyone around you was in on the fun, but there's just nothing about the games that really peak my interest now

[stoic canopy]

The last thing I heard about Pokémon go was the character customization update that had the models clipping through its self.

[full bison]

Yeah, a lot of people felt that the customization update left the models looking rather bad, along with a bunch of other people complaining about stupid things relating to rule 8

[outer matrix]

there was also the issue with the gigantamax gen 1 starters recently, where they were incredibly hard to defeat in their raids (even with a large group of 30-40 people) and also having a high flee rate

[full bison]

I was genuinely surprised that TPC was still advertising stuff relating to Dynamax considering it was arguably the most controversial generational gimmick.

Though I suppose a lot of the disdain related to it was the close proximity it had to Dexit

[clear lichen]

Conceptually, I have no problem with Dmax. Mechanically, it can go fuck itself

[full bison]

I'm just wondering what crazy nonsense gimmick will ruin the Gen 10 Meta.

[clear lichen]

Saying that immediately implies Dmax wasn't banned from every single tier

In Singles

[west sonnet]

probably mega

probably specifically mega rayquaza again

[bronze barn]

Poipole

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[merry shale]

Wasn't there a text file or something that displays the newest Pokemon added? If there is, then I can't find it. So, please share the details and show me the whereabouts!

[snow gale]

i wonder when they're gonna reveal Swadloon as the secret 502nd pokemon. its taking longer than i expected.

[full bison]

Check the pins

[outer matrix]

@willow axle

[willow axle]

ceoofboredom

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[dusty arrow]

not my sprite its bucklins

ah yes
one extra color

[outer matrix]

that amount of colors makes sense when it's just a magikarp put into an ice block

[sullen elbow]

how many colour does the ice block even have

[trail hull]

most colors are beacause of the filter applied to magikarp

[fallen loom]

I think the ice has 7

[outer matrix]

The magikarp should have their colors reduced a bit and reuse some of the ice block's color

[hot hamlet]

If we ever got a flying type eeveeloution, I want them to continue the flesh ribbons from Sylveon. But like, make it into a scarf like an early flier would wear. Possibly eye markings like goggles too

[full bison]

I'm just glad the consideration of a Flying type Eeveelution shoots the "Eeveelutions can only be Special types" theory dead. Makes it so the dream of more Eeveelutions is still kinda alive

[brittle crow]

please don't say sylveon has flesh ribbons

[unkempt kernel]

Sylveon’s counter part should be dragon type as it’s the last special type

[stoic canopy]

Nah quit while you’re ahead, sylveon was such a great design that any thing that could follow it up will look worse by comparison.

[silent acorn]

Sylveon has ||meaty||
ribbons

[silent acorn]

Biblically accurate Flying type Eevee

[stable maple]

Unpopular opinion
Normal type eevee

I saw one i thought was really cool and it looks like light

It was a pokemon that already existed redesigned

They took Lumineon and made it an Eevee

[high mauve]

It looks like it needs a big palette trimming

Maybe not only cut 1 color but half(~32)

[glass patio]

Damn, just a bit too many colors

And I think the similarity’s a bit high

Not sure tho

[next flare]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1137892936915361942 has just become the Ice Type Magikarp spritework thread

[glass patio]

Why wouldn’t we talk about the only possible pokemon that can get added to the game

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-20886533

No way i found that gif

Ice type magikarp reference⁉️‼️⁉️❓❓

[limber sorrel]

looks more like a fish rotom to me, but idk.

[cobalt temple]

reminds me of the fish bag scene from finding nemo

[fiery lichen]

That's blooket

[red kindle]

is it tho? I mean it Was cut at the end of the day...

[full bison]

And it was cut because it looked too similar to a piece of fanart, not because of some theory the fandom extrapolated from a coincidence

[red kindle]

that's true that's true

[atomic furnace]

is the new pokemon have all being pick yet? i kind of off radar and did not knew that we have a new poll for the next batch.

[dusty arrow]

helo

[fathom ridge]

The announcement of the final Pokémon was last Saturday

[kind forum]

based

[atomic furnace]

@fathom ridge 501 pokemon will be the latest number then. So does Kiwi or anyone incharge said anything about the limit of the engine as in how many more pokemon can be put in with the latest engine that they have built?

[spiral musk]

no it's the last addition of this batch, there will probably be more additions later on

[fathom ridge]

I hope so! Next summer we will get vikavolt fr fr

[full bison]

Vikavolt, Salazzle, and Mienshao are all super likely for the next batch update

[fathom ridge]

Yup, remember this

Looking at it Excadrill is also very likely

[full bison]

Almost forgot about Excadrill. That'll be fun to work with for Sandstorm teams

[fathom ridge]

Yup, and weather abilities were fixed right?

[full bison]

I think I remember seeing that

[fathom ridge]

I wonder if we will get new mons for the new year

I kinda like the idea of having the reveals spread out in the year instead of in one big batch

[full bison]

Maybe that'll be when we get Blacephalon if we get UBs individually?

[fathom ridge]

Blacephalon would be awesomeeeeee such a silly guy

And then also poipole

[inland jewel]

We know the hard limit for pokemon is like 275000

that is because the way the old system worked was hard-coding each fusion, which broke the game around 275000, (which was why we capped at 420 mons)

[full bison]

Apparently 2025 is the year of the snake too, so if we're getting New Year's reveals, Seviper could be added cause of that, with Zangoose tagging along

[inland jewel]

the new system spacewise the mons we have currently take up only 470

[deft obsidian]

Salazzle next year confirmed!!??

[full bison]

Pray for the sprite channel

[atomic furnace]

@inland jewel hmm ok. so for now, we do't know the limit, or atlease the soft limit?

[inland jewel]

ifwe included all pokemon released officially, we'll still have more than enough space for 20x that number

[deft obsidian]

Unless lopunny, the head fusion will be awesome,just imagine salazzle/salamence , salazzle/luxray , salazzle/hydreigon

[proud lion]

I hope we get more movie nights.

[inland jewel]

its just takes TIME and EFFORT from Frogman since solo programmer

[full bison]

The hot pink on black would be a nice color combo for Fusions

[proud lion]

If we have another movie night on Saturday, what movie would you like to see?

[inland jewel]

finally, we can get galarian moltres (Even though it'll be a different type

[proud lion]

Mine would be Power of us

[atomic furnace]

was hoping to get weak pokemon but great design like mightyhyena

[proud lion]

Maybe there could be a mini event where once a month or so, an early route Mon gets revealed

Before Fusion Day

[full bison]

I honestly think that the only early route Mon that's likely likely to get added RN is either Vikavolt or Staraptor

[inland jewel]

The thing is. Where would you put them? Because having worked on a mode, Frogman cares enough to keep the early game primarily kanto-base

[proud lion]

Lillipup? Pikipek?

[inland jewel]

and the only time later gen mons were available was after you worked to get an item to find them

or done a quest

[proud lion]

Zigzagoon = Trash Cans

[full bison]

I personally love the Lillipup line but I'm not sure how popular it is overall, especially with all the other dogs running around

And Pikipek is mostly just there

[inland jewel]

Toucannon is goated though

[proud lion]

Maybe some mons could be black market exclusive?

[deft obsidian]

Liepard myghtyana salazzle

[proud lion]

Like Purrloin, Stunky, Patrat, etc

One Rocket Grunt sells fused mons, another can sell black market exclusive Pokémon

[inland jewel]

okay i see the conversation shifted when i was gone lmao

make a new game corner

didn't johto have one?

[proud lion]

Expand the Game Corner Pokémon Roster after you become champion

[outer matrix]

In this game, does Johto have the safari zone from HGSS?

[opaque flare]

better: it doesnt exist in the first place

[viscid fossil]

It's accessed through cianwood in the regular games
You can figure out the rest

[outer matrix]

if that's the case, then that place could have some more new Pokémon added to there

just in case the regular safari zone in Kanto starts to get full later on

[full bison]

Apparently there's still a decent amount of maps that Frog can make, so if push comes to shove he could probably just make a new area if the routes are getting too bloated. The Olivine thing just made a lot of people think it was getting stretched thin.

[inland jewel]

his reasoning for not including Olivine and Cianwood is that other than the gym you can do nothing there

better to incentivize players to explore the other areas than just visit a place only for the gym

[viscid fossil]

Tm payback:

[inland jewel]

like Brock has Fossils, Misty has Daycare, Lt. Surge has the rematch plaza, Erika has the store and black market, while Koga has safari zone, Sabrina has the Train station, Blaine has Fossils 2 electric boogaloo

And most cities in Johto have a purpose too

[viscid fossil]

(really why would you move a tm to an unused location)

[outer matrix]

if needed in the future? idk

[full bison]

Olivine could have the lighthouse for what that's worth. Probably could have a couple of good TMs and static Pokemon encounters there

[atomic hornet]

You guys are forgetting about the moomoo farm above Olivine very important

[full bison]

Miltank fusion gallery

[fathom ridge]

Considering how miltank is used a lot of the time, uhh no thanks

[outer matrix]

What would a static encounter be in the lighthouse? A legendary/mythical perhaps?

[full bison]

Victini maybe? Or Zeraora?

[stoic canopy]

Have it be marshadow. Have everyone there think it’s hunted so you go investigate. You’d have to do light puzzles to cast shadows on stuff, flushing him out and progressing up the lighthouse. It could end when you finally get to the top to turn on the lighthouse itself to flush it out one last time to catch him

[viscid fossil]

Why does the cow need that many berries

[velvet root]

So we do go up to 505 Mons and add Skiddo tomorrow right?

[bronze barn]

[stoic canopy]

Who knows man, luvdisc has open Pandora’s box. We’re off the edge of the map and we see monsters.

[full bison]

Imagine we're gassing it up this much and Frog just shows up tomorrow and says "channel's dead, clear out and start chatting in #general ."

[fathom ridge]

i wonder if frog will tell us when the channel will be executed, i want to give it a proper farewell

[bronze barn]

I will be

the last message.

[glass patio]

no

https://tenor.com/view/minior-minior-pokemon-pokemon-i-only-stand-for-one-flag-minior-nation-gif-23996712

[deft obsidian]

But miltank is so popular among spriters

[fathom ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/change-da-world-frog-disappearing-peace-sign-gif-27285835

[bronze barn]

one day soon, I shall be there with you, my friend.

[glass patio]

https://tenor.com/view/minior-gif-25755149

[bronze barn]

I should continue spriting this guy

[fathom ridge]

some day we will win

[bronze barn]

it's a pain to sprote

[glass patio]

Sadly poipole is traumatized and won’t be able to be added to pif

[bronze barn]

nuh uh POIPOLE WILL BE ADDED

and if not

I will

be sad

[glass patio]

you will be added to the game?

oh

i was thinking about woofapark’s fusion potential

[fathom ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-vikavolt-charjabug-gif-9816156

[full bison]

The UBs are decently popular I think, I'm sure they're going to be added eventually

[glass patio]

i saw that base

o7

[full bison]

Heck, considering Frog watches this channel sometimes, I'm sure he's taking note of all the UB talk that has happened around here (although I feel like I've instigated a good amount of it, so it could just be a "one guy" thing)

[fathom ridge]

Hello frog ||add vikavolt I beg you I’m on my knees pls pls I beg you||

[bronze barn]

if Frog did not see my Poipole yapping, I will be suprised

it's my WHOLE PERSONALITY

at this point

ngl

[fathom ridge]

Am I the vikavolt guy in your mind?

[bronze barn]

no

[fathom ridge]

Damn then I have to campaign harder next year

[stoic canopy]

Maybe the guy who did the weird posts for the punkaboo reveal will show back up. Leading to a final climactic show down between good and evil.

[bronze barn]

sproting this is hell

[bronze barn]

maybe that guy will return

and it'll be me secretly

and then poipole will be revealed

[stoic canopy]

We all just kinda forgot that a ghost may have revealed Pokémon to us.

[bronze barn]

it was clearly not a ghost

anubistheory is LITERALLY me

[stoic canopy]

Oh

[glass patio]

you are the smolliv vikavolt guy

[bronze barn]

[fathom ridge]

What if there is a reveal this Sunday? Wouldn’t that be crazy?

[bronze barn]

I was anubistheory

[outer matrix]

ghost... = blacephalon

[bronze barn]

trust trust trust

[bronze barn]

what if there was a reveal

in 2 seconds

[fathom ridge]

Nope there wasn’t

[stoic canopy]

…you lied to me!

[bronze barn]

I mean

it was a possibility

TECHNICALLY

there could be

[fathom ridge]

What if there was a reveal in 7.68x10^76 years?

[bronze barn]

a good thing about poipole not being revealed

is I can get gud at spriting it

[full bison]

Maybe by then we'll finally be able to add Gen 8-9 Mons

[fathom ridge]

I need to do more vikavolt sprites

[fathom ridge]

Smoliv :0

[full bison]

Arboliva would be neat. It's another tree but it has a totally different vibe than Trevenant

[stoic canopy]

I will trade my soul for the tinka-line.

[bronze barn]

I will

[full bison]

All the cool things that can be done with that hammer

[bronze barn]

trade my unexistent "soul" for greavard

[outer matrix]

would revaroom bring in some cool vehicle fusions?

[full bison]

I'd be banking more for Glimmora, personally

[full bison]

Beautiful color scheme and overall design

[fathom ridge]

Dolliv can rot in hell tho

[glass patio]

idk i like falinks because they’re silly

[fathom ridge]

Falinks is probably the best gen 8 Mon ngl

[outer matrix]

*gen 8

[glass patio]

Gen 8

it’s ok lol

[full bison]

Darumaka/Falinks to make a Matryoshka doll

[fathom ridge]

Idk why I typed 9

I had a brain fart lmao

[stoic canopy]

Falinks was one of the few good Gen 8 Pokémon

[fathom ridge]

Smoliv is obviously the best gen 9 Mon

[glass patio]

i started to like falinks because of pokemon unite
but the last time i played that game was when they came out
idk i’m just not really interested on that game anymore i just like falinks now for the design

[stoic canopy]

That final evo tho…

[fathom ridge]

Gen 8 has the most mid new mons and the best regionals

[fathom ridge]

Is awesome?

[full bison]

Falinks, Toxtricity, Frosmoth, and Polteageist are the big Gen 8 Mons I'd be happy with

[fathom ridge]

Good list ngl

[glass patio]

no way, sr. azul for pif

the fusion potential goes crazy

[fathom ridge]

Alcreamy is also very cool!

[outer matrix]

[full bison]

Orbeetle has a pretty solid design too

[fathom ridge]

What’s that

[glass patio]

Ah yes strawberry lemon cream alcreamie lonely

[fathom ridge]

You know even if gen 8 has the most underwhelming design in general it still has some bangers

[glass patio]

https://tenor.com/view/falinks-pokemon-gif-9270566449801523911

[outer matrix]

random pokemon generator

[fathom ridge]

Pokémon designs have always been consistent in quality imo

[velvet root]

Wow I was in a Infinite fusion live and got muted for telling the guy where in his box the other pokemon is I requested a fusion for

[outer matrix]

here's another one

[fathom ridge]

Dracovish the funny fish :0

[full bison]

I almost forgot about the apple bois. Those would be cool to see added too. Imagine all the Bakugan stuff that Flapple would give us

[fathom ridge]

Galar fossils are also awesome

[fathom ridge]

Those one too!

[outer matrix]

agreed

[deft obsidian]

Kinda funny

[fathom ridge]

You know what listing all the cool mons the gen 8 Dex doesn’t seem to bad

[outer matrix]

the generator gave me 2 alcremies in the same batch for some reason

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/edp-i-mean-its-all-right-gif-26702511

[full bison]

Hatterene is just kinda a less interesting version of so many other Psychic types before it, but Grimmsnarl could be cool

[fathom ridge]

It probably considers all alcreamies to be different mons

[bronze barn]

Zacian

I like me sword dog

I also like zamazenta

for the record

[fathom ridge]

Sword dog committed war crimes in smogon

[full bison]

And VGC.

[bronze barn]

that's why it's peak

it's a dog

with a sword

like

chat am I cooking or am I cooked

[outer matrix]

take these next

[deft obsidian]

You like dogs by any chance?

[bronze barn]

yes

kinda

[clear lichen]

OK but it saved the entirety of Galar like twice it gets to have its fun

[glass patio]

#sprite-gallery message We got zacian at home blud

[brittle crow]

y is nacklestack a Minecraft mob

[deft obsidian]

We choose fusion?

[brittle crow]

does he rly look like that

[clear lichen]

What did Calyrex Shadow do to earn itself the privilege to commit even more horrendous war crimes than Zacian

[stoic canopy]

It gots a big brain.

[full bison]

What lack of Pursuit does to a meta

[outer matrix]

yes
|| ||

[glass patio]

add nacli line and move all mc porygon sprites to it

[full bison]

I seriously don't understand why Gamefreak got rid of Pursuit and just left Ghosts to go sicko mode

[deft obsidian]

That's the cooler Daniel

[stoic canopy]

Gamefreak hates multiplayer, easy question.

Well…

No

Let me rephrase.

[clear lichen]

They hate competitive

They hate Singles more than Doubles

But I'm convinced they hate Competitive as a whole

[stoic canopy]

Nintendo hates multiplayer.

[deft obsidian]

Samurott\ wooloo
|| ||

[bronze barn]

slowly starting to look more like a sprote

[weak trellis]

GF cares only for 4v4 doubles. any other method of playing the game does not exist to them (the single player is its own beast)

[bronze barn]

what about sky battles

[weak trellis]

I just finished up an all sky battles run in september and it sure was a thing rofl

[outer matrix]

sky battles in PIF when

[empty pendant]

ok but hatterene has a cool hat

[brittle crow]

what's (a) gf

[marble stump]

hattrem beat you when u make it angy so its better

[elfin forge]

Annihilape and Alcremie

[outer matrix]

I have to make it?

[elfin forge]

That's what you mean right?

[bronze barn]

https://tenor.com/view/minior-gif-25755149

[outer matrix]

I mean, you've suggested it so I'll make it later

[elfin forge]

Cool

[outer matrix]

Shiny alcremie does look closer to annihilape's colors (and white spots), so...

[stoic canopy]

A pissed off cake ghost punching every thing to death sounds like the best fusion imaginable.

[outer matrix]

this one also hates being decorated with sweets

[stoic canopy]

I’ve said this before but I think it’s bears repeating, I love most of the gen 9 Pokémon. How can a gen that has a primeape evolution where the primeape dies, gets pissed off that it died. And comes back as a ghost/fighting type be anything other then a top 3 Gen.

[outer matrix]

annihilape is a cool pokemon tbh

[inland jewel]

had to use him in my Scarlet run

worth it

[outer matrix]

[leaden dune]

Froakie line isn’t out yet right?

[velvet root]

I wanted to order sitting cutie Skiddo and Gogoat... Guess where they dont ship...

[brittle crow]

Only in the beta

[leaden dune]

Oh ok

Ty

[ancient imp]

Anyone know when Diancie will be added?

[brittle crow]

January/February

[ancient imp]

Sweet

[brittle crow]

nothing confirmed

[prime dust]

that's if things don't go well, last i heard dec might still be on the table

if you can link a message from frog that points otherwise feel free

[brittle crow]

bottom text

[deft obsidian]

Alcreamie

?

[supple umbra]

are the new pokemon in the game or not yet?

[fathom ridge]

Some are on the public beta (go to #roles and then #beta-version-download if you want it)

[slate lantern]

[hot hamlet]

Well I remember someone getting annoyed because the Gen 1 Dex says “the only time a Primeape appears at peace is when it gets so angry it dies” and now there’s a form where it does get so angry it dies and gets even more pissed

[stoic canopy]

Wouldn’t you? You just won a fight, landing your 10th rage punch in a row. And your heart gives out? Screw that! You’re not done yet! Who needs a heart anyway?!

Besides, compare the sprites. Annihilape look pretty calm in comparison to primeape. He looks like he’s holding back a biblical amount of rage, but he’s very zen about it.

[tacit saddle]

im realizing i might relate to primeaple/annihilape/j

[hot hamlet]

Yeah sure. So angry he’s doing the DBZ “things floating around him” thing

[compact orbit]

“A biblical amount of rage” holy crap that phrase goes so hard

[prime dust]

there is but one type of rage higher

https://youtu.be/0fS80eaPKXs?si=DgKPalb1wA0qOjM4&t=22

[next flare]

https://thomasgamedocs.com/pokemon/
Luvdisc placed 968th in this community ranking

[sharp nebula]

meltan and melmetal right next to each other

[weak trellis]

meanwhile Bruxish getting second lowest next to rellor

[full bison]

Watchog in the bottom 10, as it deserves

[tacit saddle]

AS IT DESERVES

[weak trellis]

smoochum being the only gen 1-2 pokemon in the bottom 25, also tracks

I would say I'm surprised that leafeon was so high at 12 but it's also 5/8 (6/9) out of the eeveelutions proper rofl

[full bison]

Simisear ended up above the 1000 threshold and is 990, which surprises me. Figured it would either stay a bottom 10 Pokemon or get way higher on the list out of pity

[trail hull]

1st umbreon ,1025th rellor

[full bison]

I'm genuinely shocked Rellor is last though, I thought the shiny would elevate it a lot higher. Though I guess people can't get over the face.

[stoic canopy]

Clogsire is lower then porygon?…why?

[full bison]

Lokix at 866?! What is this nonsense?

[orchid flume]

It's a bad list, Pikachu being lower than 25 AND lower than Raichu is a meme, lol

[stoic canopy]

What community is this for? PIF?

[ember bear]

when and where did that vote happen

[weak trellis]

pokemon from newer gens are automatically going to get lower ratings than those from newer gens (barring a few exceptions, most notably mimikyu) since less people know of them, especially the gen 8/9 mons

[stoic canopy]

I mean the top 10 is mostly eevees everything else is either outside of Gen 1-2 or Mew

[weak trellis]

or the ones that got Smash/movie Rep like lucario, rayquaza (SSE), and lugia

[stoic canopy]

Also Mew? Really?

[weak trellis]

chandelure is an anomaly though I can't explain that one rofl

[ember bear]

pokken?

[full bison]

Maybe Gamefreak will see all the love the Eeveelutions are getting with this poll and give us a couple more? Or maybe they continue giving Eevee the Pikachu treatment and give us another one that can't evolve

[full bison]

Chandelure was always a very popular Gen 5 Pokemon. It's widely considered the absolute best object mon

[ember bear]

another gimmick to eevee and none for the evos

cough cough extreme evoboost cough gmax eevee

[stoic canopy]

“You can now put boots on your eevees. No new evolutions though”

[weak trellis]

was it in here or Other Games where we said that "everything GF can do with the evolutions risks infringing on fan property"

or if it is a costume it's probably going to glaceon specifically (pokemon GO moment)

[full bison]

Is there some legal stuff that Gamefreak is trying to avoid by not making Eeveelutions too similar to fanart? Cause I don't feel like too many fanartists would sue them or anything

[trail hull]

pokemons after gen 7 won't get too high in the future (aside from a few) because there is goign to be more and more pokemons

[stoic canopy]

What is fan property? And how the hell can you infringe on it? That sounds like an oxymoron.

[trail hull]

See the fact that they scrapped thsi eevee means they are respectfulk because they can technically use fan made content if they use their property.

[ember bear]

just hire fans trust

nothing could totally go wrong

[weak trellis]

I was gonna say that's how franchises die

because the fans start putting the franchise more and more for what they want without considering what everyone else thinks

[trail hull]

all the pokemons turns bipedal and weirdly too much humanoid

[stoic canopy]

That or every storyline gets weirdly dark

[next flare]

I found it through a video the poll maker did on YouTube(@ThomasGameDocs)

They posted the polling website on a bunch of platforms and got >1.6 million votes

[outer matrix]

Late reply, but it's annihilape/alcremie

Well, time to see if there's any possible announcement today for anything

[weak trellis]

either that or everything becomes either Just Animals or Kaiju Designs with no in-between

[hot hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homero-homer-marge-sherman-gif-1927238308327549106

[tender plank]

wtf big bas DID NOT deserve THIS low of a score

AND THE LITTLE ONE TOO this is an outrage

[next flare]

People don’t understand perfection

[west sonnet]

I mean people do NOT like drawing them

despite their beauty

[tender plank]

ok i might love tirtouga but them being above BOTH bastiodon lines is criminal

[tender plank]

i...
i do....

[west sonnet]

I do too

But the numbers don’t lie

[outer matrix]

What was last place? First place as well?

[tender plank]

rellor

then bruxish

if that says anything

[tender plank]

do i change course? do i become a dual fossil advocate?

[full bison]

First place was Umbreon

Sylveon was third too, so the Eeveelutions were eating good

[west sonnet]

I mean I am for Kabuto and Amaura

[full bison]

Heck, half of the top 10 is Eeveelutions, which is crazy

[tender plank]

You make a good point.
I also have made 2/3 Shieldon sprites, so I might as well just go for it.

[weak trellis]

yea even the lowest eeveelution (flareon) was still in the top 50

[sonic sedge]

are the gen 7 starters announced

i forgot

[next flare]

Nope
We only got the gen 6 starters in this batch

5 and 7 are still waiting

[sonic sedge]

i figured

[fathom ridge]

wtf

Also vikavolt is about were I thought it would be

[steel meadow]

Breloom was in the top 200 which kinda suprised me

[fathom ridge]

A lot of gen 1 mons are very high

I think there is a bias there tbh

[steel meadow]

Breloom is gen 3

[fathom ridge]

Ohhh I thought you meant the middle oddish evo

[steel meadow]

Thats gloom

[fathom ridge]

Breloom is the mushroom guy!

Yeah breloom is awesome

[steel meadow]

Yeah!

My favorite guy

[fathom ridge]

Cacturne and cactnea are together

[steel meadow]

Fuecoco and skeledirge was seperated by one mon

[fathom ridge]

But fr how is smoliv a bottom half Mon

[full bison]

The highest ranked Ultra Beast, not counting the boxart legendaries who only count as UBs lorewise, is Kartana at 319. A bit better than I expected, honestly

[steel meadow]

I think gen 9 just got shafted overall

[fathom ridge]

Also rellor didn’t deserve dead last

[fathom ridge]

Yeah it got reverse recency bias

[steel meadow]

Tinkaton wasnt even in the top 100 which suprised me

But sprigatito line did fine

[fathom ridge]

Now thats bs

When was this poll taken? Who voted?

[full bison]

My boy Naganadel didn't make the top half

[fathom ridge]

More bs

Bisharp got pretty high tho!

[full bison]

At least it's number 626 which I can find amusing cause it's the Stitch number

[fathom ridge]

Wait I didn’t look for Kingambit now that I think about it

[steel meadow]

This looks so wrong to me

[next sapphire]

lmfao

[fathom ridge]

What’s a stitch number? The ones that you can read the same from any side?

[next sapphire]

who won ?

I dont know

[steel meadow]

Stitch is a little guy made by disney

[full bison]

626 is the experiment number of Stitch from Lilo and Stitch

[steel meadow]

number 1 was umbreon

[fathom ridge]

I like that dolliv is low, screw that plant

[next sapphire]

stitch is man made ?

[full bison]

Alien made, but yes, Stitch is artificial

[steel meadow]

i like the whole smoliv line including dolliv

[fathom ridge]

I love smoliv and really like arboliva, but dolliv could rot in hell and I wouldn’t care

Now that I think about it idk why I’m hating on dolliv

[steel meadow]

dolliv is just a serviceable middle stage to me

like ivysaur is for the bulbasaur line

[fathom ridge]

When I saw it for the first time I thought it was the final evo of smoliv and got really mad

[full bison]

What surprised me about the UBs is how Guzzlord actually ranked pretty highly amongst them. It's probably my least favorite of the lot, but I guess the anime screams and Ultra Ruin really got a lot of people to like it

[fathom ridge]

Ivysaur might be the best member of the bulbasaur line ngl

[steel meadow]

gluttonous pokemon gets alot of love from the fanbase too

[steel meadow]

all of them are amazing but i love bulbasaur himself the most

[fathom ridge]

Fair

[sullen elbow]

I agree but I have a bias to mons in smash bros

[fathom ridge]

Yeah but they choose the best middle stage tbf

[steel meadow]

gen 1 first stage pokemon just are built different

[fathom ridge]

I was an incineroar hater but smash redeemed it for me

[steel meadow]

i think wartortle is the best middle stage in gen 1

[steel meadow]

greedent is a abomination created by arceus himself to be hated.

[fathom ridge]

Greedent should have gotten lower? I think it’s low enough X)

[sullen elbow]

gen1 starter middle evos are pretty nice imo

[steel meadow]

charmeleon is cool except for the color

the color is so bad

[fathom ridge]

Idk it would look weird if it was orange

[sullen elbow]

i like the color it makes it unique

[steel meadow]

it just makes me feel like it doesnt fit into the family

[fathom ridge]

It’s the only real difference it has with a big charmander

[full bison]

I wonder how much of a factor this face was in Rellor's bottom ranking

[steel meadow]

alot.

[fathom ridge]

I like the funny shit bettle

[sullen elbow]

and with a wingless charizard

[fathom ridge]

Rabska absolutely got too low tho

[full bison]

Rabsca and Lokix deserved better

Spidops should have been even lower than it is

[fathom ridge]

Gen 9 buggers weren’t too bad, except spidops screw him

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/spidops-gif-27532928

[fathom ridge]

I like the pocket knife cricket

[full bison]

Tarountula was such a cute little guy and then it evolves into one of the most ugly bugs in the series

Glimmora ranked pretty low too, which makes me kinda sad. It's such a pretty design

[fathom ridge]

Idk it’s kinda simple

[next flare]

kinda simple with great execution

[fathom ridge]

Fair but I wish it was open more of the time

[full bison]

Yeah, I feel like people just saw the Sugimori art of Glimmora and assume that's the whole design

The whole gem lotus thing is so cool too, and it's just not shown off that much in official art

[weak trellis]

yea it looks better in 3D than in 2D

[proud lion]

Starly line in IF during 2024 be like:

[trail hull]

300 pokemons in IF during 2024 be like

[spare shore]

[full bison]

According to the poll, the 5 least popular Legendary Pokemon are Ting-Lu, Pecharunt, Okidogi, Enamorus, and Munkidori. Guess the Lousy Three didn't leave a good impression

[wide merlin]

But when boreas fulguris demeteros ?

[outer matrix]

But fezendipiti isn't the least popular, so

[hot hamlet]

Is to me. Last month I needed to complete the Dex (at the time) and then the Switch bricked

And required a save data reset when given a new Switch

[sullen elbow]

Ting lu doesnt deserve this

https://tenor.com/view/tinglu-ting-lu-pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-ruinous-gif-11738597909557177658

[full bison]

The Treasures of Ruin are definitely one of the best legendary groups we've had in a while. I'd probably have Zarude replace Ting-Lu as 5th worst if I had that much sway

Seriously, how is Zarude even a Mythical? Its lore is no different from like 50% of other Pokemon

[sullen elbow]

I like the treasures of ruin more than most gen 8 Legends

[outer matrix]

Zarude's running animation looks funny to me for some reason

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/zarude-monkey-monday-gif-22998842

[stoic canopy]

…it looks like it’s missing frames…

[marble meadow]

make alola great again justice for Gumshoos

Gumshoos for president

in if

[full bison]

?tag rule 8

[opal trail]

No tag rule found.

[full bison]

?tag rule8

[opal trail]

Make sure to follow the #rules!

Rule 8 DISALLOWED CONTENT: Politics and political figures. There are places to do this and they aren’t on a Discord for a Pokémon Fan Game.

[marble meadow]

oh ok

i think i should refresh my memory of da rulez

anyway once i done this run i take a month or longer break until the update or if i have ideas for run

[outer matrix]

Most of this update's additions are Kalos Pokémon

[marble meadow]

update is pushed back to december correct

[prime dust]

at the earliest yes

it may very well end up out in jan or feb of next year

[proud lion]

Hoping for a Christmas gift this year

[hexed agate]

no way, people don't like King of RU Okidogi?

[cedar path]

its almost like people dont like pokemon that inflict toxic by using moves

(and their designs are ass)

[spiral musk]

I didn't like them at first but they kind of grew on me
they're cartoon villains

[outer matrix]

saturday morning cartoon villains

[velvet root]

Imagine we see a announcement today

[clear lichen]

Isn't bro being suspected from UU right now

[hexed agate]

yep, but he came from the dredges of RU

[clear lichen]

I'm surprised you can spell Okidogi without W

[hexed agate]

where he terrorized the tier for a really long time while being unanwsered

[full bison]

I feel like the Lousy Three were always destined to be contentious at best. If they had actual good stat lines, people would despise them due to how debilitating Toxic Chain can be. But Gamefreak designed their stats to compensate for the ability, and now they sit at the same table of amazing abilities on mediocre Mons with the likes of Salazzle and Swoobat.

[trail hull]

you men they don't have the average legednary stats?

[sullen elbow]

Im glad that we didnt have a second ursifu situation

[full bison]

Their BSTs are all 555, and the way they're distributed leaves a lot to be desired

[trail hull]

oh

[outer matrix]

ogerpon has a 5 BST less than them

[sullen elbow]

urshifu also has 5 bst less han them

[full bison]

But hers are distributed super well and she also has Embody Aspect in her Tera forms

[alpine rune]

No, the three of them can perish

[sullen elbow]

crazy how arcanine has 555 bst

[full bison]

It's the Legendary Pokemon after all

[trail hull]

archeops has 594 bst

[outer matrix]

but it has defeatist so

it makes sense

[sullen elbow]

its also pokemon number 567

[outer matrix]

*567 BST actually

[full bison]

567.9 is also the Dewey Decimal number for feathered dinosaurs

[unkempt kernel]

They got a cool battle theme tho

[full bison]

Gamefreak pulled out the Gigantamax brain when it came to that BST. And then promptly threw it into the garbage when it came to actually balancing it

[outer matrix]

^

[full bison]

The dream of No Defeatist Archeops is so close I can almost taste it. Here's hoping it's in the next batch

[opaque flare]

you know, theres worry seed which can be used on archeops in a double battle xD

[full bison]

And strats like that are never worth the payoff. Aside from Neutralizing Gas

[sullen elbow]

Just dont get hit

[dusty arrow]

me when people complain about whitney

[outer matrix]

"but what if milktank outspeeds "

[dusty arrow]

just outspeed it smh

[wraith geode]

where do you find the miku hairstyles?

[wide merlin]

and redhead hair ?

[wraith geode]

hold on lemme find it in the files

these

i wanna know how you unlock them

[fathom ridge]

you probably should ask in #gameplay-help or #playthrough-talk

[wraith geode]

mk

[hot hamlet]

#playthrough-talk has a pinned comment with a Google doc holding the locations and conditions to get all clothing confirmed in game

[wraith geode]

thank you

[molten loom]

Don't think it includes hair

[hot hamlet]

Oh true.
I swear I saw the pigtails before

[ripe wigeon]

At first I thought most of the hairstyles were available for purchase in hotels, so I didn’t plan on organizing this content.

[ripe wigeon]

goldenrod city hotel

[wraith geode]

ik i already found it lol

[molten loom]

If I'm not mistaken each hotel has some unique hairs

[ripe wigeon]

yeah

and defeat gym leader unlock their hair style

[molten loom]

The ones from Mom and the rivals mom

[molten loom]

And some others are just unique to the towns hotel

Like the Mawile hairstyle in crimson citys

[ripe wigeon]

yeah

Most of them can be purchased at hotels, which is why I initially didn't organize related content

This should actually be the easiest one to collect

I'll add these hairstyles later.

[molten loom]

Also the hex maniac hair in the lavender mart since there is no hotel

[trail hull]

we love when frog accidentally vhit up the mic options

also it reminds us that the amphibian is always watching

when we hate on him , praise him ; plot against him no matter what the amphibian sees it all

[inland jewel]

Frogman once again trying to communicate with us

[next flare]

Frogzilla voice reveal!!

[trail hull]

my fav voice tone : silence

[viscid fossil]

no guys think about it
This is an empty voice message. When we listen to it, nothing happens. The sound has no effect. Clearly, this means the next pokemon added will have soundproof as an ability.

[proud lion]

In before the Frog gods shoot down that idea

[inland jewel]

to be fair, we're already getting a soundproof mon via Kommo-o

[gray stream]

but we could also have exploud, abomasnow, or bouffalant

[inland jewel]

and like his claim to fame is last psuedo, adds in Bullet Proof, and gives a unique move

Bulletproof as a regular ability, you need to HA farm Chespin for Chesnaught's bulletproo

[ripe wigeon]

#playthrough-talk message
hair styles updated. It covers most of the hairstyles, but it still needs to be confirmed whether the remaining ones have been implemented.

[late minnow]

Chatot plz

[tacit saddle]

birg 🎉

[viscid fossil]

I don't want to release chatter into the world
regardless of what variation we get

[full bison]

Chatot has a fun color palette, I'd be okay with it

[hexed agate]

I see you've all been blessed with the whisper of god

good fortunes follow upon hearing the heavenly chimes

[stoic canopy]

Chatot is a Pokémon whose gimmick was DoA, I’d take bruxish five more times before chatot.

[full bison]

Take notes, Frog, you might just have your next potential troll entry

[steady bramble]

gotta wonder if there are like, any roadmaps for new pokemon additions

[full bison]

Some are hoping for a New Year's batch, but I'm not sure considering how soon that will be, and we don't even know if the update will be ready by then

[steady bramble]

hope excadrill is in there ngl

[stoic canopy]

Yea I’d much rather get the update than more Pokémon right now.

[inland jewel]

The roadmap for Pokémon additions is “Whenever Frog feels like it”

[tacit saddle]

😭

[inland jewel]

It could take as little as 3-6 months

It could take as long as 4 years

[wraith otter]

Hopefully it takes only 5

[dark prism]

diancie already has more sprites than my tortle boi

[alpine rune]

"I'd take bruxish five more times before chatot"

Whoa there bird hater

[velvet root]

Diancie had 100+ Sprites before it got added

[dark prism]

mythical privilege

[prime dust]

given adding new mons is still "new" [as in started last year] after the game having been stuck at 420 for the longest time, it is doubtful that we'll get the rest of what we're missing in that time frame

[cobalt river]

no, that was just me dw

[prime dust]

lmao

[steel meadow]

diancie definetly has some pink privilege though

people love working with pinks

[cobalt river]

as they should but yeah out if 179 diancies in gallery so far i think only 45 arent from me ive skewed the numbers just a teensy bit

the more pink the better though

[ripe wigeon]

Yes, the other one is also pink.

There are still many people who need to recover from that day.

[cobalt river]

already 103 luvdisc in gallery dang :] fish go crazy

i’ll do luvdisc head eventually

[full bison]

I drew up a Roserade/Diancie fusion and it's probably the first time I've actually felt reasonably OK with how it turned out on more than a conceptual level

[cobalt river]

oh nice! that’s a fun combo

[full bison]

I also plan on drawing a Diancie/Deoxys fusion up as a reference to Land of the Lustrous, but I feel less confident in how that might turn out cause...

I mean, look at this

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/phos-blank-stare-houseki-no-kuni-land-of-the-lustrous-phosphophylitte-gif-11263012

[cobalt river]

oo good luck - never read the manga/seen the show but the designs always looked cool

[prime dust]

also, just did some math...things look both good and bad; assuming frog keeps to a 30 mon restriction [which is probably smart to ensure big versions that add mons don't take forever because he wants to make sure there are plenty of custom sprites for everything], it'll take another 11 years to plug out the remaining mons left

and yes that is factoring in the mons that would have multiple slots

due to form variants

[finite reef]

The solution is simple, all we need to do is sprite every possible fusion so frog is forced to add more pokemon. Easy!

[steel meadow]

I dont think they take the amount of sprites into account when he adds a pokemon

[glass patio]

gogoat:

[velvet root]

Sadly doesnt work

[viscid fossil]

Not with that autitude it doesn't

[quaint matrix]

Is this a good time for the Furfrou in IF agenda

Because if so

FURFROU NATION

https://tenor.com/view/furfrou-pokemon-pokémon-anime-anipoke-gif-17285947217953356688

https://tenor.com/view/kartana-furfrou-pokemon-sun-moon-gif-19000346

[fallen loom]

this is what Furfrou fusions should look like!

[shadow kiln]

15 Furfrou slots for style variants.

[prime dust]

no

[shadow kiln]

[tacit saddle]

FURFROU NATION!!!!

[marble meadow]

blacepholon for new year cuz firework

[lament wedge]

I'm sadge we didn't get Throh or Sawk

but we do already have a lot of fighting types

I'm just a sucker for Unova pokemon

[quaint matrix]

I do think we should add some more Fighting and Ice pokemon tbh

At the very least MEDITITE LINE

Come on give us more Huge Power lane yknow

[full bison]

If we're getting Fighting types from Unova, I'd prefer it to be either Mienshao or Conkeldurr more than Bert and Ernie

[quaint matrix]

I love Bert and Ernie but yeah there's more deserving Fight pokemons from Unova

I'd still say Meditite line is first priority tho

[stoic canopy]

I want more dark types, seedot and panchan stuff like that.

[steel meadow]

Toxicroak is on the top of my fighting type wants

[lament wedge]

I like single evolution pokemon a lot

that's the only reason I chose Throh and Sawk rather then Conkeldurr or Mienshao

[fallen loom]

we only have 50% of Fighting mon in this game that can be in (Gens 1-7)

second lowest completion

lowest is Bug

[west sonnet]

% completion isn’t really fair for bug

[fallen loom]

why?

[lament wedge]

is Durant steel and bug

or just steel?

[fallen loom]

Steel ans Bug

[lament wedge]

because Durant would be kinda a cool addition

[fallen loom]

Is this more fair?
79/131 Water Types (60.31%) 62/102 Flying Types (60.78%) 59/112 Normal Types (52.68%) 58/97 Grass Types (56.7%) 47/66 Poison Types (71.21%) 47/84 Psychic Types (60.71%) 46/64 Ground Types (71.88%) 45/62 Rock Types (72.58%) 42/64 Fire Types (65.63%) 39/46 Dragon Types (84.78%) 38/77 Bug Types (49.35%) 37/44 Ghost Types (84.09%) 34/49 Steel Types (69.39%) 29/47 Fairy Types (61.7%) 28/48 Dark Types (58.33%) 28/49 Electric Types (57.14%) 28/56 Fighting Types (50%) 20/34 Ice Types (58.82%)

[lament wedge]

single evolution, interesting fusion fodder to say the least

[weak trellis]

I do say we do have enough ghosts and dragons rofl

[lament wedge]

agreed

mostly because I hate dragon types but yeah

add Vulbeat and Mandibuzz

I loved those goobers

[fallen loom]

but Dragalge

[weak trellis]

I think my mono-type runs had ice, fairy, fighting, and electric as the least

[brittle crow]

I wouldn't say we have enough ghost/dragons

I would say we have enough water / flying

They may be at 80%

[fallen loom]

yet no Wingull lol

[lament wedge]

I agree with flying

Idk about water

[brittle crow]

but if you actually look at the amount / total

its only hanging around 40 like the others

[fallen loom]

% order
39/46 Dragon Types (84.78%)
37/44 Ghost Types (84.09%)
45/62 Rock Types (72.58%)
46/64 Ground Types (71.88%)
47/66 Poison Types (71.21%)
34/49 Steel Types (69.39%)
42/64 Fire Types (65.63%)
29/47 Fairy Types (61.7%)
62/102 Flying Types (60.78%)
79/131 Water Types (60.31%)
58/97 Grass Types (59.84%)
20/34 Ice Types (58.82%)
28/48 Dark Types (58.33%)
28/49 Electric Types (57.14%)
47/84 Psychic Types (55.95%)
59/112 Normal Types (52.68%)
28/56 Fighting Types (50%)
38/77 Bug Types (49.35%)

[brittle crow]

yeah dont look at the % it isnt a proper indicator

there are only 46 total dragon types

of course the % would be higher

[weak trellis]

most of which are either legendaries or pseudo-legendaries

[lament wedge]

They still don't have unova starters

[fallen loom]

what about Ice then? There are only 34 of them, yet 20 are in

[brittle crow]

thats exactly why im saying i would more count water / flying as having more

[fallen loom]

Electric, the 5th least complete type has 3 more than Dragon

[brittle crow]

yeah now you're getting it

[fallen loom]

yet 11 less in game

[lament wedge]

More fairy types might be nice

[brittle crow]

anything in the 20s could be argued as "needing" more

[fallen loom]

so not Ice

[brittle crow]

ice is in the 20s

[lament wedge]

Yeah

[fallen loom]

there are 14 left

[lament wedge]

It anything ice types are needed more then fairies

Because fairy is at 29

[brittle crow]

if you look at the big picture

out of all the mons

there are only 20 ice types

ignore the fact that the % may be high

[fallen loom]

So: Fairy, Ice, Dark, Electric and Fighting

[brittle crow]

now you get it

[weak trellis]

I don't recall dark struggling but maybe?

[west sonnet]

clearly we need fangame Luxray

[brittle crow]

assuming the goal is to balance out the amount of types

[fallen loom]

I'd say Bug needs more because most Bugs in the game are from the first 4 gens, back before Bug was really any good

[brittle crow]

i mean yeah but then you are adding qualifiers to your conditions

mons that have to be "good"

then you would have to take that list and make a new one

how many in that type you consider "good"

[fallen loom]

I feel like Gen 5 and 7 Bugs are more popular anyway

[brittle crow]

which is another qualifier lol

popularity