pif-hoenn-discussion

[void shoal]

That's some pretty strong hoping there, I commend that

[stuck cave]

Flower Gift gonna go HARD

[tender plank]

#Tougafor25

[bitter comet]

Man, even I smell the cope from all the way over here

[clear lichen]

Besides, the Pokemon I wanted the most, Lunala, was practically disconfirmed since the start of the event

People who thought it'd be added here were coping hard

[brittle crow]

Well now that Luvdisc is confirmed, what does luvdisc bring?
Any special ability / move?

[clear lichen]

Idk

[ember bear]

good question!

[low wadi]

nothing.. genuinely nothing

[clear lichen]

It has Swift Swim I guess

[ember bear]

what it brings is

[stuck cave]

MEMERY

[molten loom]

uh pink

[ember bear]

a cool troll face

[clear lichen]

And it has pretty high speed

[unique flame]

joy

[ember bear]

ig

[clear lichen]

The real thing it brings is a miniscule amount of trolling

[low wadi]

theres nothing unique to it and everything else outclasses it in what it does

[clear lichen]

And that's all it needs to bring

[ember bear]

the speed to die and do nothing 🔥

[bitter comet]

Easier way to get heart scales???

[clear lichen]

May chaos take the world!

[stuck cave]

She said ❤️

[clear lichen]

I just turned into Shabriri in like 1 hour

[brittle crow]

Swift Swim and Hydration HA for abilities

[low wadi]

alomomola wouldve been the smart troll since it has a really nice hp stat, ability and moves

[clear lichen]

It wouldn't be a troll if people were satisfied

[stuck cave]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-frenzy-madness-balrick-gif-25041201

[molten loom]

we can break rocks for them, there are ones that respawn in sevii island so we don't need it

[low wadi]

bruxish was very satisfying but it was a troll for most

[ember bear]

nah the announcement said "rarer than shinies" so it's gonna be less than 1/8192 chance to find trust

[bitter comet]

Damn….

[ember bear]

bruxish is actually usable

[bitter comet]

There is no positive to luvdisc

[fathom ridge]

i was completely convinced it was diancie lmao

[cedar path]

bruh

a fucking luvdisc

[ember bear]

and it has an actually useful ability

[trail hull]

I'm super happy about luvdisc

[cedar path]

im glad for the people that like luvdisc but like

[fathom ridge]

i told my sister the last mon got leaked, turns out we were all played by frog

[cedar path]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-meme-gif-26978290

[prime dust]

please do not double/triple post

[outer matrix]

It's funny how despite luvdsic being the last of the batch, the diance movie is still going on, plus the next update being delayed

[prime dust]

unless directed to otherwise

[fathom ridge]

basically only pokebio

[frosty terrace]

i deleted my last post, cause i thought it belongs here

[white meadow]

I like luvdisc too

[low wadi]

silver lining, the next pokemon cant be worse

[prime dust]

it does not

[earnest mortar]

A bloody disk is joining pif...

[outer matrix]

So what will happen if the update is still delayed after luvdisc?

[prime dust]

this chat is only to discuss new mons coming to the game

[clear lichen]

If they add Flutter Mane I'm ending it all

[frosty terrace]

okay... sorry, which is the right channel?

[ember bear]

(we totally use this chat for that only)

[clear lichen]

They'd literally have to code in Gen 9 to do that

[fathom ridge]

#gameplay-help i think

[clear lichen]

And if they did so just to add Flutter Mane I'd die

That's just me being Flutter Mane's number 1 hater though

[frosty terrace]

k i delete it here and post it there. Sry, kinda confusing where to post things xD

[hidden relic]

Yet the chat.

Is not closed

It is open

[clear lichen]

Most people would definitely prefer Flutter Mane over Luvdisc

[hidden relic]

Like our hearts.

[fathom ridge]

i still cant believe the leak was fake

[ember bear]

there is plenty of pokemon that people would prefer over luvdisc

that's not really that much of an argument

[clear lichen]

Yknow paradoxically now that I said that

If Flutter Mane was added, all I'd do is laugh

[ember bear]

paradox!?!?!??

[hidden relic]

All of the pieces were in place for a troll like this

[clear lichen]

It'd be the most hilarious shit ever now

[void shoal]

Hard to say if there's any Pokemon that would be worse received than Luvdisc, isn't it like the bottom barrel Pokemon for most of the fandom

[proud lion]

Clever

[bronze barn]

it wasn't fake

I mean

[hidden relic]

Just had to execute it correctly

[bronze barn]

we got diance

am I right

[ember bear]

real

[fathom ridge]

also when will this channel be nuked?

[bitter comet]

It is

[low wadi]

no contest there

[bronze barn]

Gordo I kinda predicted luvdisc smh my head

[proud lion]

Probably within a few weeks

[hidden relic]

The channel is still open

[clear lichen]

Yeah I will admit most fans LOATHE Luvdisc

[hidden relic]

Like our hearts

[low wadi]

everything else has its merit

[clear lichen]

Poor thing

[ember bear]

monkeys and fireflies get it worse

[fathom ridge]

dont mention hearts

[bronze barn]

#spriter-general message

[hidden relic]

A lot of people did because Pory joked about it too much

[clear lichen]

I dont hate a Pokemon unless I have a reason to outside of design

[molten loom]

same

[proud lion]

Pory’s Diancie sprites are still in the gallery

[low wadi]

the based timeline wouldve added cryogonal

[clear lichen]

Luvdisc isn't even the worst Pokemon design wise imo

[bronze barn]

nuh uh I did it before anyone trust

[bitter comet]

My heart is broken. I broke the luvdisc with a hammer./j

[fading rampart]

I think i'll be more upset about the movie being cut off than any reveal at this point.

[clear lichen]

That said, the Pokemon that'd be worst are mostly 1st stage Pokemon

From early generations

That can evolve

But still

[bronze barn]

I did make this sprote

[ember bear]

luvdisc isn't really a "bad" design

it's just a design

[clear lichen]

It really isn't, it's just bland

[cedar path]

theres just not much you can do with it

its just a heart.

[clear lichen]

That's why people dislike it so much

[wide merlin]

And useless in fight

[fathom ridge]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message a lot of people mentioned it

[radiant briar]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-joever-frog-it's-frover-it's-over-meme-gif-297867383892280262

[clear lichen]

But like I said, I don't really hate a Pokemon for a reason that's simply design and battle

[radiant briar]

Awful stats, boring design, another pure water. Such a let down

[cedar path]

i dont hate it just

it's such a disappointing pokemon

[fathom ridge]

but then what reasons are left :v

[prime dust]

everyone does, they may just not realize which one it is

[wide merlin]

Even the cucumber given are better than this pokemon

[spiral musk]

I don't hate luvdisc but I dislike how it was announced

[clear lichen]

More personal reasons mostly

[fathom ridge]

i hate luvdisc but i love how it was announced

[clear lichen]

And ig tbf, they are somewhat linked to battle prowess for 1 case

But not exactly battle prowess of the Pokemon themselves

[radiant briar]

We really didn't need another bright pink meme fish, especially one so boring and bad

[ember bear]

tbh i would have been less mad if diancie wasn't specifically the scapegoat for the leak

[molten loom]

comments like this are why troll mons get picked

[clear lichen]

I would gladly kick a baby Pokemon a few miles

[trail hull]

okay now that I posted my luvdisc , time to make new luvdisc

[cedar path]

do we have a different one?

[zenith quarry]

i prefer it over bruxush

[sleek hornet]

Hah! I knew it was luvdisc

[fathom ridge]

yeswe did

[cedar path]

besides bruxish

[radiant briar]

Bruxish

[clear lichen]

Currently? I don't think so

[trail hull]

I replaced the 3 diancies by luvdisc I'm glad I had enough

[clear lichen]

But Alomomola exists

[ember bear]

bruxish and alomomola bring way more than luvdisk

[cedar path]

yea

[clear lichen]

Alomomola's actually the GOAT in battle though

[sleek hornet]

Get all the memers in, then we can get to the cool ones.

[ember bear]

in any way possible

[bronze barn]

next batch we get alolamola

[clear lichen]

So it'd only upset like 75% of people

[cedar path]

alomomola has regenerator

[outer matrix]

I'm luving that disc

[bronze barn]

and then we get gorebyss, just gorebyss.

[cedar path]

which makes it instantly more interesting

[clear lichen]

Regenerator, high bulk and Water type?

Ggs

[sleek hornet]

Wait how often do you get a new batch again?

[clear lichen]

We just got Toxapex 2.0 chat

[molten loom]

nah another meme fish is too predictable

[ember bear]

and flip turn! (totally not gen 8)

[bronze barn]

whenever frog wants to

[cedar path]

its just like

[clear lichen]

Yeah it needs to be Volbeat and Illumise

[wide merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/asterix-pas-content-protest-chanting-not-happy-gif-17574247

[radiant briar]

Alolamola is literally better than luvdisc in every way (design, stats, ability)

[cedar path]

man

[sleek hornet]

Ah yes of course.

[clear lichen]

And Volbeat is added at the same time as Manaphy and Xurkitree

[wide merlin]

agree with you

[cedar path]

luvdisc is literally just a bad mon even w/o fusion talk

[clear lichen]

Making it having Tail Glow absolutely redundant

[ember bear]

stab!

[sleek hornet]

1000%

[ember bear]

it totally works trust

[clear lichen]

Ofc, Manaphy and Xurkitree would be announced beforehand

[zenith quarry]

alomamola too or whatever tf its called i feel like the simple design will bring out peoples creativity

[radiant briar]

It's design is abhorrent, fusion speaking. No room for creativity

[bitter comet]

Man, I can’t believe I will have to wait a year or more to get a shot of getting more mons I like

[cedar path]

oh boy

[sleek hornet]

Alomomola should’ve been luvdisc evo! It just makes sense! T-T

[cedar path]

more pokemon designed with just them being a heart

[bitter comet]

Ikr?

[ember bear]

how would status moves even work if they had "stab"

[fathom ridge]

TRUE

[ember bear]

hmmm

[sleek hornet]

How tf are they not connected like??

[clear lichen]

And it'd make so many people mad if they added only 1 UB...

[zenith quarry]

nah lubdisc is better existing on its own

[clear lichen]

Yeah no they need to add Manaphy, Xurkitree and Volbeat next time

And Illumise ofc

[ember bear]

nah only phione

[radiant briar]

I was thinking about starting a new playthrough, but this kinda killed the vibe ngl.

[fathom ridge]

Diancie made the most sense for last mon, that’s why luvdisc as 500 is so epic

[clear lichen]

That'd maybe make Volbeat's Tail Glow not completely redundant

[cedar path]

lmao

[sullen elbow]

Id rather It be just phione over luvdisc

[cedar path]

idk

[outer matrix]

the one issue with luvdisc that I have is the fact that there's not a lot of poses that could be made with it

[cedar path]

putting a troll mon as the 500th is kind of just

bad taste

ngl

[ember bear]

i mean the next joke just being phione

[radiant briar]

Fr

[fathom ridge]

yeah bodys are going to suck

[ember bear]

🔥

[sleek hornet]

Indeed! Let’s get all the memers in first, then get the cool ones :3

[clear lichen]

Let him cook

[shadow kiln]

I think that you can always remark on features of a mostly flat thing.

You just gotta try.

[zenith quarry]

i feel bad for the people who already made diance sprites for the reveal

[cedar path]

lmao

[clear lichen]

Everyone will get in eventually, like I said

[bitter comet]

I will be old and gray by the time they add Malamar then

[sullen elbow]

Similar deal to just getting carbink if you think about it

[clear lichen]

And looking at it this way means that you get to appreciate the troll a lot more

[cedar path]

Carbink is just a worse diancie as well ngl

[outer matrix]

the unown/luvdsic that'll be seen later by me will perfectly show how I feel about luvdisc being the last one of this batch

[molten loom]

like ribbon

[zenith quarry]

i probably wouldnt even try though i cant work with complex designs

[sleek hornet]

I mean the only thing that I remember luvdisc for is grinding it for those heart scales iirc SM or ORAS?

[bitter comet]

The question is whether I will be alive to see that

[sleek hornet]

Indeed. I’ll be a granny living in a nice cottage baking cookies.

[zenith quarry]

what if its a fake out within a fake out

[fathom ridge]

based

[sleek hornet]

Exactly

[fathom ridge]

i think some staff confirmed diancie is out

[outer matrix]

if the diance movie ends and it's revealed that it is actually 500 and luvdisc is 501, then

[fading rampart]

I've been lovin the carbink fusions honestly

[clear lichen]

Well I think I just became Shabriri while reveling in the chaos

[ember bear]

at least they are honest

[cedar path]

wait

what diancie movie?

[clear lichen]

So worst case scenario I possess someone else

[trail hull]

In 10 year: the last mon frm pif is added , I will now work to add gen 8 mons

[clear lichen]

Bro that'd be so hype, if only it'd actually happen

[fading rampart]

We're watching the diance movie in the stage channel

[sleek hornet]

Ooooo that would be nice :3

[cedar path]

oh

ngl

didnt even notice

[sleek hornet]

Appletun, Grimmsnarl my lovely’s T-T

Obstagoon my beloved

[trail hull]

and peopel would complain about their favorite from gen 13 not beig able to get in

[cedar path]

uh

[bitter comet]

Man, I definitely be dead by then. No amount of wanting new mons for this game will help keep me alive for what’s to come

[clear lichen]

If Frosmoth got into PIF it'd be a cause for celebration

[cedar path]

10 years would prob get us gen 14 ngl

[wide merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/asterix-pas-content-protest-chanting-not-happy-gif-17574247

[cedar path]

or 15

[trail hull]

french

[sleek hornet]

Knowing GF track record that would be the case XD

[bitter comet]

Man, Corvknight would be cool

[clear lichen]

Frosmoth >>> Snom

[ember bear]

man when are they adding scytherer from gen 23?!?!? eh?!??!

[zenith quarry]

i want the number to stay at 500 tho

[bitter comet]

So would centiscorch

[fathom ridge]

thats so controversial, yet so true

[wide merlin]

Les français quand ils ne sont pas content il se font entendre

[sleek hornet]

Man when are they are Charizzlar from Gen 68. T-T

[ember bear]

someone that finally says it!

[cedar path]

Fireblast >>>> Frosmoth

[clear lichen]

Damn it

You're correct

[ashen cloud]

agreed unfortunately

[sullen elbow]

Tera water

[clear lichen]

It's Frosmover

[sleek hornet]

Literally any fire type move>>>>>>>frostmoth T-T

[trail hull]

oui lol

[clear lichen]

Nah, it probably tanks Ember

[cedar path]

reverse type season

:^)

[ember bear]

ice scales helps it tank trust

[bitter comet]

Centiscorch wins!

[clear lichen]

Would it tank Mystical Fire from Mega Diancie

[cosmic burrow]

wait if luvdisc is the only new reveal, who will be there to love it? it's all by itself,,,

[cedar path]

probably?

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/centiskorch-snoos-sizzlipede-tuesday-centiskorch-tuesday-gif-27529749

[cedar path]

mystical fire isnt that good

[sleek hornet]

Just an over exaggerated joke

[clear lichen]

Using this calc because a lot of 4× weak to Fire mons love Mystical Fire from Diancie

[ember bear]

or just

the stab

[clear lichen]

Like Mega Scizor, or Ferrothorn

[clear lichen]

OK but we need to calc the Fire move

[outer matrix]

"I can't wait to fuse Fishious Rend Dracovish with slaking "

[clear lichen]

For science

[cedar path]

fishious rend doubles if the user moves first right

[ember bear]

yeah

[sleek hornet]

Ik, just an over exaggerated joke.

[plucky lily]

So we’re getting Diance instead of Luvdisc? I’m so confused lol

[cedar path]

luvdisc

speed boost dracovish

also by the point we get dracovish we'd get choice band as an ability so

[clear lichen]

252 SpA Diancie-Mega Mystical Fire vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Ice Scales Frosmoth: 210-248 (74.7 - 88.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I am happy to report that if Mega Diancie is too stupid to click Diamond Storm, Frosmoth tanks the Mystical Fire

[sleek hornet]

Luvdisc’s head will make things so cute ngl.

[sullen elbow]

Give luvdisc fisheous rend and itll be cool

[clear lichen]

And I think it does so even better than MSciz and Ferrothorn

Ice Scales W

[cedar path]

well yeah

[clear lichen]

Fishious Rend ballin

[cedar path]

frosmoth is a spdef wall

[sleek hornet]

Indeed

[clear lichen]

I wish it wasn't

[sleek hornet]

Like florges

[outer matrix]

nah, basculin will get it

[cedar path]

diamond storm go brr

[clear lichen]

If it was actually a fast special attacker that'd be so nice

[ember bear]

volcarona 2

[clear lichen]

But God forbid an Ice type had high offensive stat and speed

[cedar path]

quiver dance

[sleek hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/diancie-used-diamond-storm-pokemon-gif-19480608

[clear lichen]

Doesn't help

[cedar path]

it actually does

[fathom ridge]

at the end of the day this isnt that big of a deal tbh, i dont think anyone is going to actually leave the server or anything like that, and everything will be back to normal in a week

[cedar path]

trust me

[clear lichen]

It's too slow even at +1

You need like

[cedar path]

thats why you go to +3

[clear lichen]

At least +2

Not to mention the poor movepool :(

[sleek hornet]

Yeah like it’s just a game, and everything will get in eventually anyway. XD

[clear lichen]

Tera Blast is nice though

[fathom ridge]

do you think luvdisc would be good in little cup?

[cedar path]

it gets giga drain

[clear lichen]

Not too confident

[cedar path]

Quiver Dance + Leftovers and Giga Drain

[fathom ridge]

me neither

[sleek hornet]

Oh I though you meant a literate cup xd

[cedar path]

i mean

[sleek hornet]

Luvdisc in a tiny cup XD

[cedar path]

it cant even apply for little cup

[clear lichen]

Who's to say Luvdisc didn't get a proper education

[ember bear]

cause the fire type in front of it is totally gonna let it q dance more than once

[cedar path]

i mean, idk why you'd set up in front of a x4 effective mon

[clear lichen]

For all we know, Luvdisc is so literate that it writes novels that one would sell an arm and a leg for

[sleek hornet]

Indeed

[lofty spindle]

Man wonder what they'll do for next year's 500k event.

[ember bear]

the fire type would just switch in

[marble meadow]

im not ready for machamp luvdisc

[clear lichen]

It's not really the fact that it can't set up on a fire type

That's like saying Volcarona is bad because it cannot set up on a Rock type

[outer matrix]

diamond storm usage

[clear lichen]

It's more so the fact that it can't do shit to Fire

Or Steel

[ember bear]

yeah that's what im trying to say

[sleek hornet]

I can’t wait to see all the cursed but cute fusions for luvdisc :3

[cedar path]

actually it can

it ges hurricane

[ember bear]

you qd once and the opponent just switches to a fire

[bitter comet]

Oh yeah, that is true. I will get more cursed fusions to scare my friends at the least.

[ember bear]

or steel

[clear lichen]

You shouldn't rely on neutral hits if they aren't STAB

[sleek hornet]

Indeed.

[bitter comet]

Man, there should be an ice type that has an ability that switches it to water type whenever it gets hit by a fire type move

[cedar path]

not much is living a +2 hurricane from a mon that has 125 spatk

unless they resist it

[clear lichen]

There is no way Frosmoth is getting up to +2 if the Fire type swaps into it

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/landorus-gif-13744914906800154741

[cedar path]

ice scales does alot

[ember bear]

physical fire

[marble meadow]

at least im spared of landorous for now

[trail hull]

@cobalt river are you okay?

[outer matrix]

luvdisc always looked funny to me tbh

[clear lichen]

It does but I think you're too busy forgetting that physical Fire types exist

[cedar path]

youre now needing to bring in a very specific pokemon with specific moves to counter my point

[clear lichen]

And that the current special Fire types either have massive bulk or hit like a freight train

[shadow kiln]

That model looks like it's pogging and I don't like that.

[cedar path]

also

tera water

[fathom ridge]

good thing the shiny is a different colour, that means that spriters can use a little bit of yellow in luvdisc!

[ember bear]

piss heart

[clear lichen]

The enemy predicts Tera Water Tera Blast and goes for Tera Grass

[ember bear]

real

[bitter comet]

Nothing will top this tho

[cedar path]

???

nobody runs tera grass on a fire type

what

[clear lichen]

You'd be surprised

[bitter comet]

It’s honestly my favorite cursed fusion

[cedar path]

i actually would be

because theres so many better options

[ember bear]

tera grass heatran 🔥

[sullen elbow]

Ive seen Tera grass cerulege

[cedar path]

that is actually ass

lmao

[clear lichen]

I definitely remember Tera Grass being decently used among a lot of the Fire types

[cedar path]

maybe before the dlc came out

[clear lichen]

Point is, Tera is a dumb argument

[sleek hornet]

Peeek

[cedar path]

this entire argument is dumb

[clear lichen]

Because there's always just "Counter Tera" as the counter argument

I dont like Tera as a whole

[cedar path]

because you guys literally boiled it down to "ok but I do this that i totally have"

[sleek hornet]

I’m honestly into mons/monsters with long necks like Drampa or whatnot. :3

[clear lichen]

It's not very fun to play against and people love to use it to win arguments out of nowhere

[cedar path]

because tera is good

and also its the current gen's gimmick

[bitter comet]

Drampa would be a cool addition

[sleek hornet]

Indeed

[clear lichen]

Good as in strong? Yeah. Good as in healthy? That's very debatable. Good as in fun? Even more debatable

[ember bear]

more dragons 🔥

[cedar path]

good as in healthy yes

[clear lichen]

Drampa would be cool but people really hate Dragon types here

[cedar path]

its healthy, strong, and fun

[ember bear]

well more gen 7 so im not gonna complain

[bitter comet]

Keep adding dragons until there are no more dragons

[cedar path]

it just has an awful design

[fathom ridge]

idk how i feel about drampa in IF bc another dragon type would hurt me a little bit

[clear lichen]

I still do not mind stuff like "Oh this type is too oversaturated" or whatever

[sleek hornet]

Yeah I could tell, the forbidden type.

[cedar path]

id put it behind megas in terms of how good of a mechanic overall it is

[clear lichen]

I'm just voting for what I think would be the coolest

[sleek hornet]

Same tbh

[bitter comet]

Man, I wonder what I will vote for next year

[clear lichen]

Screw type balance

[bitter comet]

Also same

[cedar path]

there was a vote?

[bitter comet]

Yes

[sleek hornet]

Yep

[fathom ridge]

i do, but looking at the dragons left, they are awesome

[cedar path]

when?

[clear lichen]

Dragon is also only really saturated in terms of percentage of Pokemon that got in

[bitter comet]

At the very beginning

[cedar path]

i mustve not been here for it lol

[ember bear]

i just like diancie

too bad most people don't

[cedar path]

a lot of people like diancie

just a lot of people like to meme around as well

[sleek hornet]

My boi Eelektross my beloved T-T

[ember bear]

and no the loud minority here doesn't count

[clear lichen]

Dragon itself is at best average in terms of numbers even with most of its members being in IF

[bitter comet]

Man, I wonder how my sprites the goat team will have next year

[cedar path]

i can guarantee

[clear lichen]

And a large number of those Pokemon are legendaries

[cedar path]

more people like diancie than luvdisc

[sleek hornet]

Fs

[bitter comet]

Eldritch electric man

[clear lichen]

Couldn't have seen that coming

[cedar path]

its just a lot more people like to meme

[wide merlin]

like zangoose,seviper , morpheo*

[sleek hornet]

It’s cursed but cute at the same time to me T-T.

[bitter comet]

More people like a lot of mons better than livdisc

[cedar path]

ye

[sleek hornet]

Litterally

[clear lichen]

A lot of people like to meme

But trust me, most people here would probably have preferred Diancie

[cedar path]

shockers

[sleek hornet]

Indeed, meme culture baby!

[bitter comet]

I feel ya man

He’s cool

[clear lichen]

They're just not too annoyed since they saw Lucdisc or another troll coming

And instead revelling in the chaos Luvdisc brought

[ember bear]

the people yelling about "it's another damn carbink don't add":

[clear lichen]

(That's me!)

[sleek hornet]

Hey at least we got Minior this year! :3

[cedar path]

or yknow

dont add carbink

because its just worse diancie

[bitter comet]

And I got Golisopod!

[cedar path]

but 🤷‍♂️

[clear lichen]

I'm a fan of a lot of the Pokemon they added this time around

Good update!

[coarse karma]

😳 .

[clear lichen]

Or well, it will be once it gets through

[sleek hornet]

Oh yeah that too! I forgot. XD

[glass patio]

i swear we’re gonna get a pink fish each time new pokemon are added

next time it’s gonna be alomomola

[clear lichen]

ALOMOMOLA HYPE TRAIN WOO HOO

[coarse karma]

so frillish next?

[bitter comet]

And carbink sprites turned out to be banger so they converted me

[fathom ridge]

next time vikavolt will get in, pls i beg you frog

[clear lichen]

Jellyfish aren't fish

Invalid

[cedar path]

frillish has an actual design

luvdisc is just a heart

[clear lichen]

The scientists have lied to you

Don't fall for their bait

[sleek hornet]

I want Alomomola in!

[glass patio]

correct, however jellyfish has fish in its name

[ember bear]

also there is people that really don't want myths/legends alike

[glass patio]

so you’re wrong

[clear lichen]

YOU'RE FALLING FOR THEIR BAIT

[coarse karma]

I think I heard someoen say frog is """considering""" making alolamola luvdisc's
unofficial evolution in PIF. < not confirmed just a consideration.

[ember bear]

and the fact that it wasn't even included in the vote

[clear lichen]

DON'T BITE DOWN ON IT

NOOOOOOOO

[cedar path]

most fangames/hacks do that yeah

[bitter comet]

Man, I heard alomomola fused with Golisopod would be strong as hell

[clear lichen]

OK jokes aside Frillish would be very cool

[cedar path]

mostly because

theyre just the same fucking design

[sleek hornet]

Just because it has fish, doesn’t mean it is fish. I mean whose bright Idea is to add fish to Jelly.

[bitter comet]

Really want to test that one day

[glass patio]

I think someone posted alomomola as luvdisc/luvdisc

[clear lichen]

Weirdly, despite Ghost being about as oversaturated, I see no complaints. Seems a bit like bias to me ngl

[ember bear]

if i have to be honest i lost hope about diancie joining the last year

[near galleon]

Even tho mah b0i Tropius didn't make it, Luvdisc was my 2nd Pokemon that i wanted to be in the game, so this feels like a win to me

[glass patio]

And honestly frillish would be cool because jellicent male has epic big mustache

[clear lichen]

Both Ghost and Dragon are high in percentage, low in numbers

[proud lion]

Gordo explain-

[coarse karma]

hoenstly when I first played gen 5 over a decade ago I confused alolomola as it's evo and I thought taurous got an evo (the buffalo) was so confused when I saw they were standalone pokemon.

[ember bear]

but hey i still want the rest of gen 7 just because

except crabominable

[clear lichen]

I just want what I want

[sleek hornet]

Who doesn’t like that Iconic mustache! :3

[cedar path]

I dont blame you, they added a lot of evolutions the previous gen

[clear lichen]

But I can wait

[bitter comet]

Add Gen eight and add the rocket launcher then

[clear lichen]

Especially if it is made abundantly clear what I want stands no chance

[clear lichen]

Dragapult is actually peak though

[cedar path]

bouffalant and alolamola were just there as filler because they didnt let you catch any previous gen mon

[clear lichen]

I'd be so happy if that happened

[sleek hornet]

Same here!

[molten loom]

I don't know if gordo will

[ember bear]

after all dragons get added "yoo we adding pals now guess which one"

[bitter comet]

Yes he is. Didn’t like him at first when I saw him because I was sad that drepy didn’t retain that creepiness, but he’s cool

[coarse karma]

it was so strange when they backed out and in BW2 had previous gen mons pop up late game

[glass patio]

plot twist luvdisc is the last pokemon of the 500k event but we’re still gonna get more reveals that don’t count for that

[hidden relic]

Why should I be the one to explain? 😉

[cedar path]

people complained 🤷‍♂️

[shadow kiln]

That's gonna be your haunter luvdisc fusion and you're gonna like it.

[hidden relic]

I did my part for the reveals

[spiral musk]

I need my copium gamr

[fading rampart]

Can you at least put the luvdisc episode back on?

[ember bear]

stop with the hopes

[sleek hornet]

Why of course, and the noise it makes! :3

[ember bear]

now!

[cedar path]

also

[sleek hornet]

Tune in nextime for next years 500k special! :3

[hardy tartan]

Luvdisc

[clear lichen]

I dont care too much about Pokemon cries

[coarse karma]

@hidden relic ribbon isn't around, do it. i dare u

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-there's-more-orion-orion-and-the-dark-wait-is-it-not-over-netflix-gif-4957681364031286979

[molten loom]

that is what was said

[clear lichen]

But Dragapult's is pretty damn good

[glass patio]

i was just saying, i honestly do not care about what’s getting added except for minior

[cedar path]

i dont think they could justify making a sequel to a game and not including any new mons to the natural progression

[glass patio]

Yeah i said it because of that

[coarse karma]

oh. the stream ended i just noticed rip

[cedar path]

ngl

L

[hidden relic]

...................I did the cue and everything what do you mean Frog's late

[outer matrix]

Eventually, we will run out of troll pokemon that could be added later

[molten loom]

and maybe something else

[sleek hornet]

Same tbh, because
What I want would get in eventually, I mostly feel nuetral towards the mons I don’t really care for, if they get in it’s fine. :3

[clear lichen]

There will always be a least popular Pokemon for them to add

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-react-thanos-meme-gif-26303208

[cedar path]

people would probably be happier about luvdisc if it wasnt presented as a troll lol

[clear lichen]

Whether that Pokemon is truly unpopular or not

[coarse karma]

Diancie gonna take Victini's spot as dex number 000

[cedar path]

oh yeah why tf is victini 000?

[glass patio]

i mean tbh i can’t say minior is the only good one because is epic too

[clear lichen]

No, I'm definitely a lot happier that it is a troll

[ember bear]

tbh im just biased because diancie had to be the scapegoat

[clear lichen]

It's funny to me

[hardy tartan]

If Frog makes it so luvdisc evolves into alomomola I will be so happy
Purely on principle

[outer matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-card-uno-uno-cards-gif-13032597

[tender plank]

well, just gonna say this again for no reason at all
#TOUGAFOR25

[cedar path]

you actually like the pokemon though

[bitter comet]

It will never happen, but I would be so happy

[cedar path]

so...

[ember bear]

nah the reverse

[clear lichen]

I love seeing the discord to into flames

[ember bear]

eviolite alomomola

[glass patio]

in unova dex victini is dex number 0, also in national dex victini is before the unova starters

[fathom ridge]

me too

[spiral musk]

it was n°000 in unova dex

[sleek hornet]

Indeed it is, Minior and Carbink resonate with me the most since I’m a rock collector. :3

[clear lichen]

I won't lie, I'm completely neutral towards Luvdisc

Which is a pretty low bar when I like a majority of all Pokemon

It's just that in this context, Luvdisc is absolutely hilarious

[cedar path]

Ah ok, i havent checked the dex in a while so i thought they actually made it 000 for the full dex

[proud lion]

We never found out about the two Luvdisc

[clear lichen]

Luvdisc²

[cedar path]

does this make victini a gen 4 mon

[bitter comet]

Same. I would be less happy if Golisopod didn’t get added, but since it got added every Mon I would’ve been disappointed about in the past is now just a neutral

[spiral musk]

maybe the both mons are luvdisc and luvdisc with tiara

[outer matrix]

it's alomomola

[cedar path]

male luvdisc should have a crack in the middle of the heart

[sleek hornet]

I would love for Alomomola to be luvdiscs evo but yeah that would never happen, I would be thankful though if Alomomola gets in.

[clear lichen]

There's not many Pokemon I truly dislike

[sleek hornet]

Same

[west sonnet]

Imagine if we get double trolled and it is diancie

[clear lichen]

There's like, 2 groups of Pokemon and Flutter Mane

[bitter comet]

I only really dislike the fireflies

[cedar path]

every pokemon i hate generally boils down to "how much does it piss me off in Randbats"

[clear lichen]

And that's it

[bitter comet]

I just think they’re ugly

[cedar path]

fireflies?

[ember bear]

the criteria of how much i hate the pokemon is just "how much do people love to spam it"

[clear lichen]

You would not believe your eyes

[ember bear]

case in point: spheal

[bitter comet]

You know they were from G2

[cedar path]

i do not remember them

[clear lichen]

I dont think so?

[spiral musk]

I only really dislike Crawdaunt
not the prevo, just Crawdaunt

[ember bear]

gen 3

[clear lichen]

I'm assuming the Pokemon referred to here are Volbeat and Illumise

[bitter comet]

Really??

[clear lichen]

Which are Gen 3 Pokemon

[ember bear]

all gen 2 are in

[cedar path]

oh those two

[sleek hornet]

My criteria on how I like a mon is based on its personality and looks. If I don’t like it I’m just neutral. :3

[ember bear]

anyway

[cedar path]

ngl

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/luluwpp-gif-25648350

[cedar path]

i thought skarmory was gen 3 for a while

[bitter comet]

Damn lol

[cedar path]

when i was younger

[sleek hornet]

Same lol

[clear lichen]

My main criteria for liking Pokemon is design

[spiral musk]

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-14457952604098199169

[fading rampart]

The fact frog is late is actually making this funnier

[cedar path]

my main criteria for hating pokemon is "does this make me vehemently annoyed when i think about them"

if yes, then i dont like em

[ember bear]

late?

[clear lichen]

For me to dislike a Pokemon, it needs to do something apart from have an underwhelming design for me

[ember bear]

you mean early?

[sleek hornet]

And I thought Garchomp was Gen 6 ever since I was a kid. XD

[cedar path]

oof

[clear lichen]

Being bad in Pokemon battles evidently does not count

Since I am neutral towards Luvdisc

[spiral musk]

two whole gen off

[sleek hornet]

That as well, if they annoy me too, then nope. :3

[ember bear]

the reveal already happened

meh

[proud lion]

Here is the ending of the two Luvdisc

[bitter comet]

Man, my first join the game I was trying to get my arboc to evolve into a serviper because I thought that’s what it evolved into for some reason lol

[sleek hornet]

Look Gen 6 was my first Pokemon game give me a break.

[cedar path]

gen 6 was my first legal copy of pokemon

[ember bear]

they are just feeding more hope just to burn it down at the end

[clear lichen]

When I was terrible at Pokemon, someone genuinely convinced me Latios evolved into Lugia

[cedar path]

but i played the shit out of emerald

[clear lichen]

Lmfao

[stuck cave]

Oh god babes

[cedar path]

and fire red

[stuck cave]

I started with Gen 3 I-

[cedar path]

i started with gen 3 i just didnt own a pokemon game legally til XY

[shadow kiln]

Emerald is still peak.

[stuck cave]

Emerald was peak

[bitter comet]

I believe my first Pokémon game was either ultras sun or moon. Either that or the gen 3 remakes

[molten loom]

were you also convinced mew was under the truck?

[shadow kiln]

"was"

Ban this one

[clear lichen]

No I didn't know what Mew or a truck was

Well, truck in Pokemon

[stuck cave]

It still is peak

[cedar path]

bro didnt know what a truck was

[sleek hornet]

I’ve played the Gen 3 remakes as my second game. :3

[clear lichen]

Actually I was very young

I probably didn't know what a truck was

[cedar path]

lmfao

[clear lichen]

I had to have the person show me what Latios and Lugia looked like btw

[ember bear]

gen 7 first and then i played gen 2

[cedar path]

but not latias?

[stuck cave]

https://tenor.com/view/please-spare-me-queen-grogda-elfo-disenchantment-please-leave-me-alone-gif-10543479239347684631

[sleek hornet]

I wasn’t even born when that truck thing was going on. XD

[bitter comet]

You were a dumb kid

[clear lichen]

Yeah Latias was left out :/

[cedar path]

lol

anyways

this derailed me entirely

[clear lichen]

All children are, by default, dumb

[ember bear]

whitney wasn't even that difficult (totally not carried by female starter ig)

[cedar path]

i am now too lazy to make this sprite

[proud lion]

They got a loooot of cleaning to do

[bitter comet]

You don’t know that for certain. I could’ve been a super genius when I was a child…(I ate paper on a daily basis back then)

[tender plank]

frr like what was difficult about that fight (i was carried by metronome > perish song togepi)

[cedar path]

whitney was only hard for people who picked cyndaquil as a starter

fr fr

[sleek hornet]

||I used to eat crayons||

[ember bear]

imagine

[clear lichen]

I have not fought Whitney, but I highly doubt that I'd struggle with her with my Pokemon knowledge AND tips I've been told for Whitney

[sleek hornet]

I heard about how brutal that rollout is.

[bitter comet]

What if they leave them up as a form of protest?

[clear lichen]

Once you're not a child, no Pokemon battle is hard

[sleek hornet]

Same here tbh.

[cedar path]

except ultra necrozma

and BDSP E4/Champion

[clear lichen]

Unless the opponent's name starts with V, ends with O and has a title known as "Pokemon Wielder"

[bitter comet]

Just spam a stab move

[cedar path]

And volo

[molten loom]

Idk there was one fight in Legends ZA that was fairly hard

[cedar path]

Why did Cynthia have a full perfect 31 iv ev trained team

[clear lichen]

I didn't lose to them once, they were noticeably a lot harder though

[stuck cave]

Pokemon Colleseum Mt. Battle

[ember bear]

status moves? they don't do damage so useless!

[sleek hornet]

How many times have my mons been killed by Volo, Cynthia, and Necrozoma. A lot. lol

[molten loom]

canon event

[eager jungle]

you know what, i'll do it x)

[clear lichen]

Did lose to UNecrozma

[cedar path]

they all have held items and perfect ivs/evs

[clear lichen]

It's pretty hard if you aren't using something like idk

[bitter comet]

And they always miss for some reason

[sleek hornet]

Yeah just used attacking moves.

[clear lichen]

Bisharp or Zoroark

And I was also a lot dumber back then

[cedar path]

just use the free ash greninja

:^)

[clear lichen]

And really thought my Incineroar with its 60 base speed would outpace or tank Ultra Necrozma

[cedar path]

they butchered battle bond in gen 9

[sleek hornet]

When I was a kid I thought Alomomola was luvdisc evo T-T

[cedar path]

most did

[clear lichen]

It's technically buffed in damage and speed!

[cedar path]

idc about technicality

[clear lichen]

Until you swap out, or fight an Unaware mon

[cedar path]

they ruined the entire point of it

it was a transformation ability

imagine if you lost zen mode bc you swapped

[clear lichen]

I'm fine with Ash Greninja not existing, so people won't say "Kalos mons shouldn't get a Mega because Greninja has Ash Greninja"

[cedar path]

theyll say that anyways

just like how I say that pikachu shouldnt have gotten a g-max and raichu shouldve had it instead

[clear lichen]

I'm also not too big of a fan of the anime in general

[hardy tartan]

Front-facing luvdisc sprite when

[clear lichen]

So I don't really care for Ash Greninja too much apart from it having a cool design

[cedar path]

thats literally why everyone likes it

[molten loom]

luvdisc/luvdisc diancie joke alt sprite when

[cedar path]

it has a cool design, and it had it's own theme song

[clear lichen]

I dont watch the anime so I give 0 shits about what it does in the anime

[hexed agate]

I was making one, then realized I love myself too much to start that

[clear lichen]

I know it lost to a Mega Charizard X and that's about it

[spiral musk]

it was busted in game

[cedar path]

yeah ash got cheated out of a win LOL

[clear lichen]

If we want to talk in game I can actually do that

[cedar path]

because he brought cut to the pokemon leagues

[clear lichen]

But I cannot for the life of me tell anyone anything extensive about the anime if it isn't infamous

[clear lichen]

Water Gun Dracovish vibes

[cedar path]

anyhow

omg

i had my game running this entirre time

lmfao

[clear lichen]

But yeah, I think the biggest reason why I think the only proper hard battle is Pokemon Wielder Volo is because of how PL:A's battle system is mostly centered around trading

[molten loom]

frog must be very late if this is to be believed

[clear lichen]

Trading with a box art legendary that has an omniboost twice, adding up to 8 Pokemon total, is not easy

Shocker

[spiral musk]

ultra necrozma was hard apparently

[clear lichen]

It's been too long since I've fought it to say

It has a few hard counter mons

[spiral musk]

I had a zoroak in first slot so I didn't experence it 😔

[clear lichen]

But I didn't have any of them on my first playthrough

[cedar path]

lmao

[outer matrix]

(can't find a non-shiny pic)

[fathom ridge]

i dont have the courage to ping the frogman

[clear lichen]

I had an Incineroar I thought could outspeed with its 60 base speed, or tank a 167 SpA Neuroforce Power Gem

[dim sparrow]

my god luvdisc is so useless
even volbeat and illumise are better

[clear lichen]

It did not end well

I was very braindead

[spiral musk]

that's just how fish looks

[dim sparrow]

luvdisc adds absolutely nothing

not game play wise
not visually
not
thats it there is nothing else

[willow notch]

Heart scale generator

[molten loom]

that's why it's a troll pick

[molten loom]

you mean rocks in this?

[cedar path]

cant wait for waves of sprites that are just "we added a random part of the pokemon to luvdisc's body and called it a custom sprite"

[dim sparrow]

the troll pick could have been volbeat and illumise

this is just a waste

[molten loom]

or the ones that respawn at treasure beach?

[dim sparrow]

might as well not add anything

[unkempt kernel]

[molten loom]

there may be more

[clear lichen]

Something something MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD

[open merlin]

wobbufet/luvdisc gotta have this as the sprite

[clear lichen]

Alright I said the line

[outer matrix]

It will be chaotic if there's a bonus and it's just alomomola

[dim sparrow]

idk
but like
Luvdisc being in is worse than no new mon at all
since its super uninspired

[willow notch]

Yeah but that's not a Pokemon lol

[unkempt kernel]

Perhaps, a happy chaos?

[dim sparrow]

only thing it causes is more autogens

[unkempt kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/guilty-gear-gif-15094609937610505152

[willow notch]

But yeah Luvdisc is a bad choice

[molten loom]

it's a troll pick

[sullen elbow]

Basculing > luvdisc

[willow notch]

Hence troll choice like people have been saying

[molten loom]

of course it's not the best

[cedar path]

it is literally

[crisp prawn]

Bruxish was a troll pick but at least it's also good for fusions.

[cedar path]

one of the worse you couldve done lol

[dim sparrow]

like
volbeat and illumise have cool palettes and features at least
even if they are stupid
(ive learnt to like them)

[cedar path]

bruxish has an actual design to it

[dim sparrow]

I like Bruxish because it actually has value

[cedar path]

you can actually do something with the design

[sullen elbow]

Its like the absolute bottom of the barrel

[dim sparrow]

Luvdisc is
<3
and no color palette

[fathom ridge]

true bruxish has some super cool fusions

[cedar path]

every single fusion of luvdisc is just going to be luvdisc's body with a new coat of paint and maybe an extra part added on to show its suppose to be a fusion

[hardy tartan]

Frog is gonna let luvdisc learn every single Move Expert move

[crisp prawn]

Maybe I'll be proven wrong with luvdic. I often am afterall but mann it's just got nothing going on with its design.

[clear lichen]

I will say, it is better than a good number of 1st stage Pokemon that can evolve

But that's not a high bar

[bitter comet]

until I see any actual proof, I’m gonna just say this is cope

[clear lichen]

You're competing with fucking Weedle lmao

[cedar path]

yeah but they evolve

[dim sparrow]

heads will be boring, bodies are even worse
people will try to save it by adding heart or water sfx and its gonna be overdesigned and still not good looking

[clear lichen]

I'm neutral towards it

[fathom ridge]

i dont think you will be proven wrong

[molten loom]

heart swap 100%

[unkempt stone]

I respect the meme

[clear lichen]

Since like I said I don't really hate any Pokemon for design or battle prowess alone

[dim sparrow]

actually no
bodies will genuinely be more interesting lmao

[unkempt stone]

I respect the Luvdisc meme

[cedar path]

bodies really wont be that interesting

[sullen elbow]

It is better than abilityless wishiwashi

[clear lichen]

They did a little bit of trolling

[dim sparrow]

not good but not monno color

[open merlin]

i still want sewaddle and dwebble but oh well

[dim sparrow]

and worst of all

this makes the mon i want have a smaller chance due to overlapping theming

[cedar path]

which one

[clear lichen]

If it's Alomomola, keep your hopes up

[unkempt kernel]

I hope we get the squirrel next time around

[stoic sluice]

Where is announcement?

[cedar path]

#announcements

[clear lichen]

Because they seem to like adding unpopular fish Pokemon

[coral axle]

Aw yay lovecore pink fusions

[sullen elbow]

Its swobat

[cedar path]

oof

[open merlin]

luvdisc/sandslash will be interesting

[cedar path]

swobat wouldve been cool

[sullen elbow]

Look at their pfp

[glass patio]

when is ribbon gonna delete her diancie sprites lmao
even if diancie got added the sprites she posted would have the wrong dex number

[clear lichen]

Yeah no that makes it look a lot more obvious

[cedar path]

deleting them aint the call ngl

[outer matrix]

is the luvdisc image actually from the diance movie?

[wide merlin]

yes. Before lumineon who are beautiful and great in fight, but they would put unpopular fish before

[clear lichen]

Lumineon's ass is not great in a fight

It is definitely beautiful though

[open merlin]

i just want more rock and bug

crab crab crab

[bitter comet]

Do y’all think they’re trolling me #event-general message ?

[clear lichen]

If someone says unpopular fish Pokemon that is good for battles, I think Alomomola

[molten loom]

it's got nice stats

[stuck cave]

propagandaaa

[west sonnet]

And I am so happy

[dim sparrow]

nope

actually if it is gonna be alomomola
not only will swoobat never get in :(
also competitive will be ruined

[west sonnet]

I love my idiot fish babies

[wide merlin]

beautiful

[clear lichen]

Those stats are not nice at all

[bitter comet]

I’m not convinced about it being either

[clear lichen]

This is the same BST as Basculin

[open merlin]

im still a little upsetty the gen 5 starters got skipped over for gen 6

[deft obsidian]

Pokemon infinite fish 😄

[clear lichen]

And distributed worse

[molten loom]

not referring to battle stats, referring to a specific number there 3 times

[drowsy plaza]

Has there been any announcement as to when all the new mons will be integrated? If so, I missed it.

[clear lichen]

... Ah

Well then

Yknow what, I've been beat

[sullen elbow]

I would have prefered if they did the troll with a Mon thats just kinda forgotten and underated

[dim sparrow]

name any unpopular mon and id have preferred it over luvdisc

[open merlin]

like dwebble

[humble crystal]

skitty copium…

[radiant briar]

Hey guys do you like my sceptile luvdisc fusion? 💚
What about my arcanine luvdisc fusion? 🧡

[humble crystal]

never lose scope

[clear lichen]

There is no way Dwebble is unpopular, right?

[unkempt stone]

The meme is real alright

[sullen elbow]

Dweeble is unpopular?

[radiant briar]

Crustle is peak

[deft obsidian]

Seismitoad

[open merlin]

idk people ive talked to dont like dwebble

[molten loom]

I like Dweeble

[radiant briar]

Sick deisgn

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i want a luvdisc arcanine

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I could've sworn the Gen 5 bug types are universally beloved

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people wouldve preferred almost anything else ngl

[sullen elbow]

Basculin

[clear lichen]

And Dwebble is in fact a Gen 5 Bug type

[deft obsidian]

Seismitoad

[open merlin]

i really wanna see a dwebble/geodude evo line if that hasnt been done yet

[clear lichen]

Basculin has not abhorrent stats

[hasty arch]

exploud

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I mean they suck

[dim sparrow]

I mean one suitable as a troll pick
Crustle is good just forgotten

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But they are better than Luvdisc

Or Camerupt

Or Lumineon

[hasty arch]

i called it that it was luvdisc

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Or actually a lot of 460 BST Pokemon

And it also has an ability advantage over them

[cedar path]

yknow

[molten loom]

I wish I didn't delete the image I had of frog typing in #announcements

it was perfect for trolling

[hasty arch]

i think luvdisc isnt that bad

[dim sparrow]

oopsies we accidentally added the wrong heart mon we're actually adding woobat and swoobat

[sullen elbow]

Camerupt is 460?

[fathom ridge]

carnivine

[hasty arch]

omg carnivine :O

[dim sparrow]

sure

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Ace of Team Magma's leader btw

[dim sparrow]

actually pretty unique

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at least it got a mega

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It better have with how low its BST is

[sullen elbow]

Is sharpedo also 460?

[hardy tartan]

Ah, so that’s how it got its name

[deft obsidian]

Drudigon

[clear lichen]

Though a full on evolution would be better

[cedar path]

sharpedo is also 460 yeah

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Yes

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it just has better stats and typing

[clear lichen]

Oops wrong reply

Sharpedo does have 460 BST yeah

[next flare]

They are widely regarded as the best bug generation
But there are people that find Dwebble redundant because Crustle of the body functioning identically to Parasect and/or Torterra in fusions

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fire/ground in a region with tons of water types

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Fire/Ground in of itself is a good type

Camerupt is just not a good Pokemon

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its an ok typing

just

[deft obsidian]

Sharpedo also have better ability

[open merlin]

hippowdon gives me ptsd

[wide merlin]

with groudon of course

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not on a slow mon with a bad pool

[deft obsidian]

Speed boost

[cedar path]

groudon isnt even fire

lol

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Druddion would have been a funny troll because it is another dragon type

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Pdon is

[wide merlin]

if we talking on fire ground type

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It's not easy to judge Fire/Ground

Since one of its users is Primal Groudon

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sadly not in any other game other than gen 6/7

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And one is fucking Camerupt

[brittle crow]

h8 that groudon isnt fire

[hardy tartan]

Surely you can find it in this thread again and save it?

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tbf

[dim sparrow]

better than
Less interesting vertical stunfisk

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You could've made Camerupt a Steel/Fairy type and it'd likely still be ass

[molten loom]

probably can

[cedar path]

being x4 weak to your other box legendary wouldve been bad

[sullen elbow]

Turtonator better dragón troll. Its also another fire turtle

[cedar path]

kyogre being water and setting up rain is insanely better than groudon lmao

cause that just makes him let people set up a FREE SOLAR BEAM

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Fire/Ground does 2 crippling weaknesses

But those are its only 2 weaknesses

[deft obsidian]

Drampa is less popular

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druddigon is a sick ass design

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It then has a good set of resistances, a great immunity and great STAB combo

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i wouldve loved a druddigon hydreigon fusion

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Fire/Ground is definitely a good type combo

[cedar path]

its a good combo just

most of the mons that have it are bad

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But it's so hard to judge it fairly

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*Half

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Or a third if you count Mega Camerupt

Mega Camerupt is like actually not bad

[dim sparrow]

-request remove luvdisc

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mega camerupt is leagues better

bc its optimized

with 20 speed

[hardy tartan]

Wait a sec
Why are there a bunch of diancie fusions in the gallery?

[plucky lily]

This is Bruxmas all over again lol

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because every good spriter thought that diancie was gonna be in

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Mega Camerupt is not as bulky as it wants to be ngl

[cedar path]

yee

[molten loom]

ribbon posted before the movie started

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70/100/105 is nothing spectacular

[plucky lily]

Diance is probably getting in, we’re getting Rick Rolled

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it did not need 120 atk

[clear lichen]

... Why does this camel have only 70 HP?

Fucking slow frail mixed attacker

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gen 3 moment

[molten loom]

and she has 113 diancie sprites

[clear lichen]

What the Generation 3

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gen 3 has a lot of frail mons

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Gen 3 is mostly slow frail mixed attacker

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yep

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By current standards, Wailord is slow frail mixed attacker

[plucky lily]

That’s gonna be a lot of sprites to rename if Diance ends up not making it in.

[clear lichen]

High HP low defences just does not work

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well

it can

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Blissey actually has good SpD

[hardy tartan]

Luvdisc is gonna get a bunch of diancie sprites

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look at wobbuffet

[molten loom]

they'll probably be cleaned up eventually

[clear lichen]

That's almost entirely Shadow Tag

[cedar path]

exactly so it can work

dondozo is just better wailord

lmao

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Well if you gave a Pokemon 0 stats in everything but then gave it an ability that revived it every time it died and cannot be bypassed by ability ignoring effects, that Pokemon would be broken

[dim sparrow]

ludvisc sucks in every regard

[inland jewel]

lfg

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nah it'd still suck

[dim sparrow]

this is making me angrier than meloetta

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wait

[inland jewel]

Luvdisc is in so people can mald

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why meloetta?

[clear lichen]

Impossible to kill

And it eventually will kill you

[inland jewel]

probably because Shaymin or Xurkitree could have been in but it landed on Meloetta

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i wanted every other mon on that raffle