pif-hoenn-discussion

[alpine inlet]

Pokemon Mystery dungeon is nice and all, but the dungeons themselves arent memorable imo.

[full bison]

I'd say the characters in Mystery Dungeon can be pretty interesting

[gray vine]

hes too big to need one

he fits as a 2 stage mon

[full bison]

Wigglytuff basically became a fan favorite Pokemon in Mystery Dungeon circles

[dusty arrow]

duraludon is 5'11

[gray vine]

and?

[dusty arrow]

duraludon looked like a just, single fella

but then he gets an evolution

[gray vine]

it didnt need an evo i agree

it needed a pre evo

[dusty arrow]

also golurk doesnt even have 500 bst

while duraludon has 535

[gray vine]

i only care for visuals

[full bison]

Let's not pretend Gamefreak operates by any feasible logic when it comes to designing Pokemon evos

[dusty arrow]

thats kinda funny when you consider you are using a nemona pfp

[gray vine]

and nah he didnt, he looked like a mon that def lacked a pre evo

[full bison]

the only logic behind Gamefreak's Evolution logic is never giving one to Shuckle because Eviolite

[dusty arrow]

kangaskhan looks like its lacking a pre-evo

doduo is pretty big for a pre-evo

[gray vine]

eh hardly, i dont care for battling and still beat her ass easily. not like shes hard to fight

[dusty arrow]

im talking about her personality in-game not

[gray vine]

indeed

[dusty arrow]

her actual fights

[dusty arrow]

and how long has kangaskhan lacked a pre-evo compared to duraludon-

[gray vine]

what are these points lul

[dusty arrow]

my point is

i dunno

im just saying

[gray vine]

words

[dusty arrow]

we arent even going to get sense out of gamefreak

we might get a golurk evolution as likely as we will get a gyarados evolution

[gray vine]

Turtonator also sucks for not having a pre evo

dude does not look like he be birthed like this

[alpine inlet]

You know what? Im going to say it

[gray vine]

mega count as evolutions

[alpine inlet]

To hell with old pokemon getting new evos and regional stuff

Just gimme some really cool solid new guys to be excited about

[dusty arrow]

hell? yeah you are right

lets give giratina an evolution

[silent acorn]

I just want intergenerational evos

[gray vine]

it has a different form

[silent acorn]

I dont want more gimmicky useless stuff

BRING ME BACK TO GEN 4 TIMES, WHEN USELESS MONS EVOLVE TO KICK ASS

[alpine inlet]

I have a great idea

We should give charizard a new form

[silent acorn]

Yes

Anything but gimmicks god no more gimmicks please

[alpine inlet]

Another 10 trillion dollars to Charizard fans

[shadow glade]

Mine would be something like the Pokemon Adventure Manga with little streaks of dark implications, and maybe the option for you the player-character to fight alongside your pokemon.

[dusty arrow]

mods

[full bison]

How about giving Meowth another regional variant cause clearly it needs another

[shadow glade]

So Pokemon Adventure meets SMT.

[dusty arrow]

send him to the F.E.A.R dimension

[dusty arrow]

give perrserker an evolution

[alpine inlet]

That sounds pretty neat. I dont know anything about the manga other than the older stuff had some pretty wacky stuff. Maybe a game like that could even be focused on the mangas artstyle

[shadow glade]

Oh that'd be fun.

[alpine inlet]

Whats the original red and blue artist again? Ken something?

[shadow glade]

But yeah imagine playing as like, a Professional Investigator in the pokemon world and having to take down criminal syndicates that don't play by the rules of the pokemon league.

The Gamecube Pokemon games kinda poked at the idea.

[alpine inlet]

Id like to see new pokemon drawn in his artstyle. Im sure someone out there had done that

[shadow glade]

Ken Sugimori, the creator of the dang franchise. (And my autistic role-model.)

[silent acorn]

Mods are ok

[alpine inlet]

Ken Sugimori thats his name

Yeah yeah thats right

[dusty arrow]

thats not what i meant

[silent acorn]

Mods are ok

[shadow glade]

Like, the closest I think to the feel of what I'd want in a Pokemon spinoff is, Ironically, Palworld.

Shave off the edgy nonsense and yeah.

[silent acorn]

Pokemon is edgy

[full bison]

Hot take, but Palworld is really not that much edgier than Pokemon

[silent acorn]

Don't you see little timmy here freaking out because his rattata died?

[full bison]

The guns are really the only thing that exceeds how dark Pokemon gets

[dusty arrow]

something something blue raticate

[shadow glade]

Palworld feels to me a lot like the Adventures manga. It's just Pokemon But You Can Be Team Rocket If You Want.

[full bison]

Lily Everhart's backstory legit sounds like something an actual Pokemon antagonist would have

[alpine inlet]

Idk why Palworld insisted on being a punch tree crafting, base building game. That style of game is soooooooo boring in my personal opinion.

That really turned me off hard to that whole game

[silent acorn]

Not really since the Pals are into the carnage unlike charmander

[full bison]

I just hope Pocketpair comes out the other side of the patent BS okay

[alpine inlet]

But at the same time idk what you could do other than that with that game. So that really shows what I know

[full bison]

That stuff could legit ruin the industry

[silent acorn]

Probably nope

Japan sucks at copyright

[shadow glade]

And Nintendo loves to sue...

[alpine inlet]

They will probably just have to change whatever they currently have game mechanics wise and just change it to something very similar

But it will still be the same game at heart or something

[full bison]

The patent was filed after Palworld was released, right? Any competent judge would toss that

[silent acorn]

Yeah, any... But its japan

Only competent thing there is the cherry blossom

Always punctual

[alpine inlet]

I was going to type a whole thing about patent laws in chat right now. But halfway through I realized that I was probably just going to get a bunch of info wrong anyways so I just gave up

[silent acorn]

Yeah

Technically gamefreak can't create games

[alpine inlet]

Plus I didnt want to be the ☝️🤓 guy

[silent acorn]

As games got a patent

And then patent got a patent

Hey look i found a patent

[full bison]

all I know is that patents being effective retroactively is some BS

[alpine inlet]

Im going to patent the idea of mixing creatures with other creatures

Then I am coming for everyones asses in here and I am going to ruin everyones fun.

[silent acorn]

Done already

I made one look

[alpine inlet]

Then I am not going to do anything with my patent and just sit on it

[silent acorn]

You get 5 seconds glimpse and then boom

1

2

3

4

5

Boom

[alpine inlet]

I closed my eyes

[silent acorn]

It was just a unicorn head dude

Technically Nintendo cant file mixing stuff

[alpine inlet]

Oh I thought you were saying I was going to explode if I saw your character lol

[silent acorn]

Since Atlust did it first

And then digimon

[alpine inlet]

I did see your unicorn thingy tw it had like 10 stars or something

[silent acorn]

And then yokai watch

And then persona

Basically Nintendo is too late to mixing creatures

[alpine inlet]

Fine I will just patent the idea of

Uhhhh

[silent acorn]

Its a pick and combine game

[silent acorn]

Too late a Vtuber i know patented Uuu

Anyway

[alpine inlet]

Quick whats something broad I can patent

[silent acorn]

Technically Nitnedo hasn't really Patented Monster Taming

Only thrown object monster taming

Because monster taming is essentially domestication

[alpine inlet]

I got an idea

[celest bobcat]

Beta Zigzagoon....

I want Zigzagoon in the game now

[silent acorn]

Hmmmm no

Zigzagoon is peak

[alpine inlet]

I will patent a mechanic where you have a rival throughout the game and the status of them will change throughout the story. But your rival isnt a set character. It can spawn from any npc that you interact with in the game

That sounds like a good idea

...

FUCK!

[silent acorn]

Haha... Hahaha

Done

Shin megami tensei one. Chaos and Law dudes

[celest bobcat]

Patent "Pressing a Button does something"

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-laughing-reverse-reverse-card-reverse-uno-gif-3758578067338957449

I present Circuit Patent

Google patent for the W

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9407154B2/en

[stoic plume]

behold the boy

[hot hamlet]

Leak stuff goes in #other-pokemon-games

[gray vine]

the name was even changed, reading is just so hard

[gray vine]

and they arent even that edgy either, the bullets dont make them bleed they basically are just extended moves just in bullet form

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/chatot-angry-pokemon-anime-gif-17290948790290842967

[iron quartz]

I need this as a sprite

[celest bobcat]

Shuckle/Amaura

Get rid of the shell

Shuckle Yellow on Amaura body

Make sure to use Shuckle's head for the lack of detail

[iron quartz]

but anyways
It would be funny to have some of the scrapped designs as some fusions

[mint scarab]

HELLO im kinda NEW and i have some QUESTIONS:

1. Why are we using different pokedex numbers after Johto? I know we've skipped some mons but can't we just skip their dex numbers too? is it a problem with the in-game pokedex or smth? Is there a plan to ever change it to the official dex numbers once the gaps are filled?
2. Is there a plan for this game longer term? Adding all pokemon? stopping at a certain generation? More gameplay content or nah? etc

im too frightened to ping Frogzilla but hopefully someone knows

[tacit saddle]

as far as i know, gen 8+ are out of the picture

so any 8, 9, and eventually 10 pokemon wont be added

[mint scarab]

very sad for my boi Dragapult but thanks for the info. Why is that? because of how hard newer mons are to sprite, or the fusion generator not including them?

[tacit saddle]

the msot explanation i've heard is compatability

[tender plank]

It's because the version of Pokemon Essentials that IF uses in incompatible with the Gen 8+ mons.

Bc this project is so old it kinda just did that.

[mint scarab]

Is that some kind of info pack that the game runs on

[coarse karma]

So... Lickilicky/Quilladin or Lickilicky/Whirlipede.

what just happened. I tried to shrink the sprite and it did this

[viral thorn]

Someone already did this as Lickilicky whirlipede I think

[coarse karma]

Oh, no i'm not making one. I was saying a joke. But glad to hear that.

[deft obsidian]

Golem

[coarse karma]

It does also fit the shape.

[viral thorn]

He swallowed the hubba bubba roll 💔

[coarse karma]

Yeah.

[iron quartz]

I feel like its more fitted to golem
(what the other guy said)

[ivory lodge]

Hey! First time using Discord, I may need someone to show me the ropes, as well as in Pokemon, as that's more my brother's thing. I hope we get along well 🙂 (And @iron quartz, great choice of pfp!)

[coarse karma]

it's nice knowing my boi is still just as loveable in his beta form.

[dusty arrow]

spheal but seal

[ivory lodge]

I just want to use him like a plushie, stress ball, and basket ball in the same day

[bitter comet]

He looks edible

[dusty arrow]

any pokemon is edible if you are brave enough

[bitter comet]

How would you eat a ghost Pokémon?

Personally, I would count humans as normal types

[dusty arrow]

breathing

[bitter comet]

So you can’t harm them or eat them

[dusty arrow]

bite is a dark type move, and humans are heavily implied to be pokemon-adjacent, which could mean they could learn pokemon moves

so bite

[ivory lodge]

"But hey, that's just a theory, a GAME THEORY! Thanks for watching"

[zinc prairie]

@couragestar

ok he is not back yet

[ivory lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/plis-dont-let-my-ass-gif-13520942

Wait...I thought we were praying for MatPat, LOL

[alpine rune]

I missed some deep lore

what happened?

[ember bear]

i was wondering why i haven't seen them in a while

[zinc prairie]

said "there's nothing new to talk about" and dipped

thank god

[alpine rune]

[alpine rune]

Was that an expression of a good thing or a bad thing?

[zinc prairie]

I think he was calling everyone boring

[full bison]

I get being upset about the lack of Gen 5 representation this update but that was a bit much

[zinc prairie]

at some point everyone collectively did not want to deal with his rants and inability to converse without shoving his opinions down the throat

[dusty arrow]

woah what the hell did i miss

[zinc prairie]

I myself tried to have a debate over some addition the last round and I got so pissed I called him out

[full bison]

Alot of us are super vocal about what mons we want in but I don't understand the need to tear down the opinions of others

[ivory lodge]

We shall be oblivious together

[zinc prairie]

typing the name in the search bar gives you 85% negative experiences/memes

💀

[dusty arrow]

wait did courage change their name or did they actually leave the server

[ivory lodge]

Speaking of names, guess who I named myself after

[full bison]

I've not had too many bad experiences with courage myself, but I mostly just lurked the announcements section till a month ago

[zinc prairie]

left for real

#pif-hoenn-discussion message

[quaint matrix]

I only got active here late September sooooooooo

Couragestar lore is crazy

Oh wow he really did just leave without any fanfare too lol

[alpine rune]

I never got beef with couragestar

I thought he's just a guy

the lore is crazy

[eager jungle]

[alpine rune]

Anyways, here's hoping for abomasnow line

[full bison]

Abomasnow would be cool but also 12 grass types

[zinc prairie]

free Abomasnow so I can play with perma Hail that isn't Aurorus

[full bison]

so I'm on the fence there

[eager jungle]

I'm hoping for this

[alpine rune]

Get Blizard-ed

[zinc prairie]

Aurorus is for the art, fusion wise it makes any mon worse stat wise

bc of the way its typing is

if it was the other way around it would fine

[full bison]

I'm mostly just hoping for Mienshao. The UB copium is more or less on empty at this point

[alpine rune]

Tell that to @velvet root

[eager jungle]

[alpine rune]

-# would be funny if the person I accidentally shadow ping to just leave the server

-# sorry bout that zerocha I misclicked

[zinc prairie]

Zerocha has not spoken since late April 2023

ur fine

[ivory lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-murder-of-sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-the-hedgehog-sega-hes-dead-sonic-the-hedgehog-was-murdered-gif-15599093249083255980

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/caine-stare-eye-pop-out-look-looking-gif-12911259476103416578

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/articuno-pokemon-blizzard-ice-type-gif-15503406324217648068

[dense bloom]

am i the only one that thing a triple fusion between zacian, zamazenta, and eternatus would be cool

or a triple fusion between necrozma, solgaleo, and lunala

[alpine rune]

They would be cool

[dense bloom]

its unlikely to be added but rn we do have 3 empty spaces so there is still hope

[alpine rune]

It wont be added because its gen 8

[ember bear]

thankfully

[alpine rune]

Ima just crush your hopes here and there

[dense bloom]

did they say ther were never gonna add gen 8?

[alpine rune]

yep

Gen 8+ wont be added due to [code not found]

[dense bloom]

ah poo

[ember bear]

maybe after everything gen 7 and before gets in

[dense bloom]

guess ill still hope for this one

[rocky heath]

Okay so wait, dumb question, is Vespiquen not in the game yet? I heard you can catch Combee.

[alpine rune]

where you heard that from?

[rocky heath]

I thought they were in Ilex Forest in Jhoto's Remix mode. I could be horribly wrong though.

[unkempt kernel]

We really need a missinformation rule

[alpine rune]

no its not in the game, you must be misreading things

[rocky heath]

Yeah, my bad.

I suppose it's better to be wrong and know then be blissfully ignorant.

[alpine rune]

"Shiftry is in the game"
"It came to me in a dream"

[rocky heath]

Oh nah. The otherday I was looking at the wiki and I 100% thought Combee was in the game, so I went to see the fusions on a calculator, and nothing came up so I assumed it was like " oh hey, it'll be added soon " or something along those lines.

[ivory lodge]

Damn...

https://tenor.com/view/asta-yuno-kingfadedz-couldnt-be-me-gif-15063474

[hot hamlet]

Someone stole my meme and made it worse?

[inland jewel]

they really should make it so that if you mention a mon not in the game it just says. "This mon is not in the game currently"

but the keyword to activate it. "In the game

i know the bot activates if you ask in #ask-a-bot

but ONLY there

[prime dust]

that is only if you have a specific role

otherwise the bot will activate pretty much anywhere

[inland jewel]

nah if i ask

Is combee in the game

it doesn't any anythinghere

[prime dust]

how to get combee

[inland jewel]

but if i go to #ask-a-bot it'll tell me that its not in the game

[prime dust]

hm

maybe this channel got deyanmegad

[inland jewel]

its been that way forever now

like 6 years at least

[prime dust]

no

cause this channel hasn't existed that long

it only existed for the first time last year

[inland jewel]

#gameplay-help message

[hot hamlet]

Sorry packs up citronella candles

[inland jewel]

so from my research its been at least a year or two

and has not worked consistently in #gameplay-help #general and #playthrough-talk

[prime dust]

some stuff the bot hasn't been updated for

[inland jewel]

#general message

another example of general chat

working in #ask-a-bot message

another example in #gameplay-help message

working example in #ask-a-bot message

like i get them not wanting to spam other channels

but i think this is critical information

I have found examples of the answer not showing up in 2019 at the earliest. but no #ask-a-bot adjacent messages

which seem to only go back as far as 2022

[hexed agate]

The bot has downtimes sometimes, but it's serving a massive server

[inland jewel]

okay found the first message for auto response #ask-a-bot message

[hexed agate]

• it handles a lot of interactions

[inland jewel]

Kiwi enabled it in #ask-a-bot in 2022

didn't say to enable it in other channels

so its exclusively ask a bot

[hexed agate]

Because it gets spammy

[inland jewel]

yeah i get that

but i still think its critical information that people think the bot is broken when asked elsewhere

[hexed agate]

But that's not a topic for this channel

You can make a suggestion if you'd like

[inland jewel]

i mean, isn't kiwi swamped with work

she still hasn't updated the bot to include locations for the mons from the previous batch yet

[hexed agate]

If you think it's important, make a suggestion and Kiwi can get to it eventually

Can't fix what you don't know is broken

[hot hamlet]

Mega also has bot access if you feel it needs to be changed/added

[inland jewel]

okay, i see i brought it up a year ago but never actually put in a discord request

[stiff storm]

yawn, good morning

[hot hamlet]

Morning. In a car for literally half a day so no playing the beta for me

[stiff storm]

sadface

any1 find where the new kalos starters are by chance? xoxo

[hot hamlet]

It’s okay. Frog made the beta go live at this exact same circumstance.
He always releases stuff when it’s most inconvenient for me😅
(I think he’s tracking me)

[agile olive]

idk, I just selected to start with them

[hot hamlet]

Think someone said they didn’t find them in the river too

And being in Classic idk where they could be then

[stiff storm]

was me, spent a good 30 minutes going in and out of the river, never saw new ones there

which i admit could just be really bad luck

[hot hamlet]

Honestly I kinda want to go into my Dex file and just see what is in the radar for every encounter table. Ik Carbink is a Mt Moon smash encounter now

But otherwise I found nothing

[stiff storm]

I suppose I could just keep resetting the black market till one shows up too

[hot hamlet]

Apparently Karma will now only affect store prices. Though I don’t see a change in Black Market yet (even when wearing ||Rocket Uniform||)

[alpine rune]

HUH

[hot hamlet]

To which info?

[alpine rune]

But I wanna kick sandcastles :(

[hot hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/floreyonce-spongebob-gif-15871023312759268046

[hot hamlet]

Then kick your sand all you want. It doesn’t matter anymore!

[alpine rune]

dont they reduce karma?

[hot hamlet]

Yeah but the main reason is gone. Just means you pay more for pokeballs

I should check if the Silph co exploit remained

[alpine rune]

Hold on, Karma has an effect on stores previously?

I thought they dont

Cuz like this is new to me

[hot hamlet]

Beta test removed the karma from the legend stuff. And in place affects store prices

+=lower prices
-=higher

[alpine rune]

Damnnnn

Can we like just remove karma entirely?

also how does mew spawn now?

[hot hamlet]

Same way it does normally. Mt Moon Summit.
You can also access the Lavender Town feather even if you’re the goodest boy now

[bleak igloo]

HELLO

[alpine rune]

I never caught mew in the mainline games

Im only aware of the viridian river spawn with 10 karma one

[hot hamlet]

Not in the mainline games. I mean the way it’s gotten here

[alpine rune]

yea i remember it spawning with 10 karma in viridian river previously

[hot hamlet]

Then it became a unique map an update or two ago and the Karma became 22. Now it’s in that new spot and the Karma is “whatever”

[unique flame]

was ludicolo high in the votes?

[hot hamlet]

Probably the meme addition more than anything. Or Torkoal was

[alpine rune]

based on top 5? no

Im assuming its because of the Character customization theme

Cuz funny sombrero

[inland jewel]

it ranked top 10 in spriter only poll

[plush bough]

Soooo only 3 spots left right? So either a line with 3 mons or 3 singles or a single and a double 🤔

[inland jewel]

like 3rd-5th place iirc

[plush bough]

Were the top ten announced?

[hot hamlet]

No, just top 5

And bottom 5

[prime dust]

not sure where you are getting 3 from, there's 5 left

[plush bough]

Were again 2 number skipped?

[hot hamlet]

2 skipped again

[plush bough]

Okay 🙈

[unique flame]

maybe a legendary trio

[prime dust]

493, 494, 498, 499, 500

[plush bough]

Still fingers crossed for the lazzle line 🙈

[unique flame]

salazle and genie trio

[prime dust]

genies would need more space

[hot hamlet]

Ice cream

[prime dust]

each genie needs 2 dex slots

[inland jewel]

Source- Poll from last year

so they goth 4th place

[hot hamlet]

Genies would need 6 based on how alts work now

[stiff storm]

GOTTEM

ohshit, I got 2 in one go

[inland jewel]

considering that Lurantis, Golisopod and now Ludicolo are in

[hot hamlet]

They don’t look happy that they are stuck on a moss ball

[unique flame]

hmm salazle and sword trio them

[hot hamlet]

Sword trio without Keldeo?

[alpine rune]

ohhhh

makes sense

[unique flame]

we got regigigas without his children

[inland jewel]

we got Darkrai for 8 years before Cresselia

[unique flame]

for a long time at least

[alpine rune]

wait genies share the same pokedex entry in the mainline?

[unique flame]

no wait even better salazle and xerneas/yveltea/zygarde

[hot hamlet]

I’m talking about how since Lycanroc, alt forms get their own dexes in PIF

[alpine rune]

Zygarde has 3 playable forms though

[agile olive]

this looks pretty good for an autogen lol

[unique flame]

just use the big one

[alpine rune]

Theyre prolly just gonna use the 50% one but the ability would just be stat boost

the big one only appears with power construct iirc

[unique flame]

i dont care for legendaries and rarely sprite then but i think people deserve at least one in this batch of new mons

a lot of people like them

i think some mons deserve to be splited in forms and other dont, like i agree with aegislsah just having 1 form but i believe castform and the genies should have diferent forms

[inland jewel]

Frogman already confirmed Castform will take up 4 slots

the kicker is that its gonna be a battle only form like Necrozma

which makes getting those registered in the dex a pain

not to mention you HAVE to use Forecast to get those forms, depriving you of other abilities or be forced to use base castform

[unique flame]

cant wait for the day 1 castform/gardevoir with 4 pretty ladies changing within the weather

to be fair why would you fuse your mon with castform if not for the funny gimmick

[inland jewel]

wanting to use the Fireform Castform fusion and fuses it with Drought Ninetales

and then get confused on why it ain't fire form

[unique flame]

ok heres the run you use this guy + a good moon with castform and adjust rain or sun with the matchup

[alpine rune]

that.... actually reminds me

has anyone made a fox's wedding reference?

[marble meadow]

ludicolo Bisofank or bibarel el chip ref

or waluigi taco stand for a ludicolo fusion ref

[hot hamlet]

That last one a TRG ref?

Mexican Waluigi’s various fortune street ventures?

[marble meadow]

or that and for porygon fusions some Mexican advertisement or something creative

[molten loom]

||I think it got patched||

[hot hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-no-yell-shout-gif-4492193

[molten loom]

I tried talking to them a bunch and the discount always was 150

And I saved everyone

[hot hamlet]

Maybe it lowers if you’re good?

[molten loom]

Tbh don't know how my karma had looked during the beta

[hot hamlet]

Especially after the Rocket stuff

Leak stuff goes in #other-pokemon-games

[lament wedge]

Maaaan

they're so close to the Shiftry line

PLEASE

[molten loom]

Not even going to spoiler mark it?

[stiff storm]

||Bottom boat, need vermillion badge||

[stiff storm]

.>, fixed

[humble lance]

him free

[hot hamlet]

I found the Mo-o in Safari Area 5. Radar mon

Now I just need to find the starters (Classic so dunno if I can find them) and the mantis, pumpkin, and cake

I also found a fez but “the clothes fez are invalid”???

[full bison]

I imagine the starters are just at the river like every other Starter is

[wide merlin]

can we do a list for the new pokemon location ?

[hot hamlet]

Trying!

I have 2 wild encounter spots, then the Torkoal and Wimpod which seem more like event mons

GO TO THE POWER OLANT ON FRIDAYS FOR A HAT

[molten loom]

Good to know

[molten loom]

Yeah I reported that already

[molten loom]

Drifloon?

[hot hamlet]

Yes

[hot hamlet]

Also Jang is in the Safari desert as the radar mon. And there’s a mon in Goldenrod that steals your hair forever

I looked everywhere and found no cotton Candy, pumpkins, or plants

Just running around spamming Radar

[molten loom]

That's what I meant to reply good to know to

[hot hamlet]

I feel like we should start asking Frog for hints on the missing mons.
Like at the very least which region or nearby towns to narrow the search

Maybe time of day

That said the beta description doesn’t list Pumpkaboo or Swirlix. But we should be able to request hints for Fomantis

[inland jewel]

i thought the beta only include mons up to The kalos starters

[trail hull]

but swirlix and pumkaboo are in the code

[inland jewel]

so no torkoal, pumpkaboo, swirlix, or golisopod

[hot hamlet]

I have proof you can custom them in

[trail hull]

you can chose them but I don't if they have a sprite

[inland jewel]

i mean custom them in vs finding them naturally is different

[stiff storm]

torkoal is in

[trail hull]

with a sprite?

[hot hamlet]

New Pokémon

• Kommo-o line
• Gollisopod line
• Carbink
• Lurantis line
• Kalos starters

Character customization

• 71 unique clothing options
• 115 unique hats
• The ability to dye your hair, hats and clothes
• 61 unique hairstyles, each available in 4 base colors
• A new section in Pokémarts to purchase hats & clothes, each with a few exclusives
• A new section in hotels to change your hairstyle
• New menu option to change your outfit from anywhere
• The ability to put hats on your Pokémon

Misc

• Testing the new sprites database (the solution to the gitlab incident)
• New quests
• Improved generated Pokédex entries
• Some minor gameplay changes
• Special type-expert npc trainers

And a whole lot of new stuff going on under the hood lol.

[molten loom]

#hall-of-fame message

You can see it

[hot hamlet]

Also Torkoal is on SS Anne, and Wimpod is in cerulean

[hexed agate]

My hotel door fix might be in there, idk

[hot hamlet]

Btw the backpacker will have to move. Thanks to the new marts she’s stuck in a wall

[hexed agate]

Haven't had time to check

[hot hamlet]

In Ecruteak

[trail hull]

so custom in slurpuff in (not a hack just to be clear) it has a party icon

[hot hamlet]

Yeah but I wanted to find it

So I know where it is without customs

[trail hull]

tho it has no battle sprite

[hot hamlet]

Also I could surf to Celadon’s center but not back

That’s a bug

[trail hull]

it isn't in it has no sprite other then party icon

[hot hamlet]

Well then that’s one headache down. Assuming Pumpkaboo is the same as they got in together.
But that leaves Fomantis as advertised in via the beta download page. And I couldn’t find it anywhere despite spamming the radar on a complete Dex save

[trail hull]

also it seems to be broken as there ids a base sprtier of it ingame but it doesn't show up

currently trying using a fusion

[molten loom]

Yeah I can't quite do that as my dex complete save is in remix

[velvet root]

What mons would fit the abilitys Galvanize and Aerilate

[hot hamlet]

That would be a good place to check too. At least confirm it’s in

[velvet root]

Idk how the abilitys are spelled
But but prob wont get in pif cuz one is for a Regional mon and one for megas only

[molten loom]

You're assuming remix got the mons updated already

[hot hamlet]

Also fair. A good indicator would be to check if Wimpod or Torkoal are in Remix in their event spots… or Jangmo-o in Diglett Cave

[trail hull]

wait I'm an idot it does have a sprite , it's just taht I accidentally used the self fusion

[molten loom]

Well event spots don't change in remix

[hot hamlet]

Mo-o in cave would be the indication then

[trail hull]

and manually adding fusion do it works

[molten loom]

This is makes sense since most the pseudos are radar encounters in the safari in classic

[hot hamlet]

Yes

[molten loom]

I forgot about that

[full bison]

Galvanize would be the most useful to Eelektross, out of all the Mons available with only one ability. As for aerilate, I don't know if there are any Flying types with only one ability besides gimmick mons like Archen and Minior

[coarse karma]

lol

[coarse karma]

i had a small spheal stressball, i lost him a couple years ago tho :( idk where he went

i also had a medium sized spheal plush i used as a tiny head pillow and that went missing too, which is so weird.

[ivory lodge]

You can use...Nvm, it's irreplaceable, t-...Are you trying to make me depressed?

[coarse karma]

nah just reminiscing on weird non official pokemon stuff i owned

[ivory lodge]

Well, as they say, one of the worst things you can do to someone, is forget them

So, in a way, reminicing is healthy

Even if the memories aren't always good ones

Btw, what are you doing up at 6:11 AM?

AAAAANNNNNNNYYWAYS! You like Pokemon, correct?

[ivory lodge]

Am I correct in this assumption?

[ivory lodge]

Did you suddenly die?

[hexed agate]

I hate it when that happens

[lament peak]

Tf

[outer matrix]

If we assume that a Pokémon gets added due to how they can play out, is spheal really that necessary? People would often forget about sealeo and maybe even wailerin in terms of fusions and spheal would get even more than the both of them

[fathom ridge]

wailrein is awesome i dont think it would suffer from lack of sprites, sealeo thought, that one could be removed and most people wouldnt notice

[outer matrix]

Ah yes, small Spheal --> gigantic wailrein

[fathom ridge]

wdym

[coarse karma]

Kind of, I have a house inspection coming up so i've been cleaning the last 3 hours, with small breaks to chat around discord and whatnot.

[ornate tide]

Can we get furfrou for fur coat ong

[coarse karma]

They're really specific, the last 3 years there was a (at the time new) rule everyone thought was plain stupid where our spices had to be neatly alligned in our main cabinet, like I got a warning for having a "messy cabinet" when the only thing in it was salts,peppers,curry and other spices, and no it wasn't over packed there was about 15 spice shakers in the cabinet :I there must have been a lot of backlash cause they refined the rules this year and removed that for instead 2 new rules on the cleaning list.

[coarse karma]

Yes please.

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-xy-dog-wash-furfrou-gif-25965778

[coral axle]

Pupper

[coarse karma]

In my timezone it was only 3pm, now it's 4pm. You form the UK? :)

[ivory lodge]

Aussie

[ornate tide]

Only problem with furfrou is how are the different styles are gonna work .-.

Or the spriter just chooses which style they wanna use in their fusion and call it a day

[ivory lodge]

But my Dad's from England

So no, I don't have sword fights in the halls

But back to crack, do you like Pokemon?

[outer matrix]

Furfrou fusions could likely have the spriter choose what trim it gets

[coral axle]

I’d adore heart trim

[sullen elbow]

no, I hate pokemon grrr...

[hot hamlet]

Take this stuff to #general
this channel is to talk about the beta and future PIF mons

[outer matrix]

plus, that's a bit...bloody

[ivory lodge]

Apologies, I didn't watch it in advance, that's on me, I'll now delete it from the chat. Thank you for your input.

[signal shore]

did they add greninja ??

[gray vine]

no

well yes

and no

its not added to the actual game, but you can play with it in the beta

[signal shore]

does the beta run well or isnt it worth it

[prime dust]

its buggy

[signal shore]

damn i cant wait the fusions are gonna be crazy

[glass patio]

You can always look at #sprite-gallery and search for greninja

[hot hamlet]

It’s a beta test of course it’ll be buggy

We’re meant to hunt the bugs

[red crypt]

i don't think either, personally walrein in my favorite pokemon so it would be awesome if there were fusions with it

[glass patio]

omg i found a bug

[hot hamlet]

KILL IT

[glass patio]

NO

[hot hamlet]

We must hunt all bugs

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

[glass patio]

but this bug didn’t do anything

https://tenor.com/view/charjabug-pokemon-gif-8679000

[gray stream]

It existed. Must terminate

[hot hamlet]

It’s an electric bug. It’s the most dangerous bug of all to software

[glass patio]

Well you couldn’t catch it sadly

[fathom ridge]

I wish that bug was in the game

[gray vine]

the Bus

[clear lichen]

Araquanid has high special bulk and resists Fire with Water Bubble

Your Flamethrower will do nothing to it

[hot hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-life-i-cant-help-it-it-so-beautiful-gif-14823456

[clear lichen]

Araquanid would tank fr

Hey what's the special attack of that rotom bug zapper fusion

I need to calc

[tender plank]

tirtouga tuesday tomarrow!!!
can't wait to do my weekly sprite!!! yayy!

[coarse karma]

You're right though, it'd be one of those "middle syndrome" evolutions with the least amount of fusions of the spheal line.

[tender plank]

ok i think this random pokemon is actually bearable for my skill level compared to last time i rolled a random mon for a touga

[coarse karma]

charmeleon is so easy to work with, soon as jangmo-o was announced I went and immediately made a Charmeleon/Hakkamo-o

[tender plank]

that's clean

love it

[hot hamlet]

Lurantis spotted in HoF

It does exist

[coarse karma]

That being said, mine will be over shadowed once November hits, cause someone made a much cooler one a month after.

[tender plank]

oof, rip

[red crypt]

omg :0 i didn't know they were in the game

[tender plank]

not yet

[hot hamlet]

That looks like a latter Digimon

[red crypt]

i still have to download the sprites for the update cause mine aren't loading

[hot hamlet]

Walreign is not

[red crypt]

:C

[coarse karma]

They're in the beta atm but will be in the full game by the end of this year more than likely.

[red crypt]

ooooooo

cool

[coarse karma]

yeah Github shut down the auto loader thingy

[glass patio]

but not walrein

[hot hamlet]

WAIT was Spheal confirmed???

[coarse karma]

no? We're talking about Jangmo-o

[hot hamlet]

Then no they are not

[red crypt]

i always love seeing walrein get some attention, cause it and sealeo get so overshadowed by spheal

[hot hamlet]

The person was asking about the Walreign fusions

[tender plank]

ME TOO I LOVE WALREIN!!!
Go made me love walrein so much he's such a goober

[coarse karma]

OH. mb mb, misread their reply.

[red crypt]

[coarse karma]

Soryr for confusion, no spheal isn't confirmed sorry </3

[red crypt]

Walruses are my favorit animal and ice is my favorite type so walrein is perfection

[red crypt]

it's oki, i'll just continue hoping

[coarse karma]

same, spheal and totdile my most favorite 2 pokemon

[red crypt]

my 2 favorties are walrein and magneton

[tender plank]

based picks

[red crypt]

idk why but i have a soft spot for magneton

[hot hamlet]

We have 5 mons left. 2 of which are definitely a 2 state as they are between confirmed mons

[red crypt]

i caught one in legends arceus in my first ever time loop thingy and called it Jimmy

[glass patio]

jimmy lmao

[red crypt]

yes

[coarse karma]

#announcements message they're working on a new way to download sprites cause what they've been using for over 4 years got shut down. (they were using github and they got basically ToS in a way, by them)

[red crypt]

aw :(

good that they're working on it

[tender plank]

yet again gonna say that i'm hoping for more gen 4 love in either these last 5 or the next batch next year

gen 5 too

[hot hamlet]

The beta is basically a stress test/test of the new system

[glass patio]

gen 5 is epic but i need my meteor smhsmh

[red crypt]

i'm hoping for some of the actual pokemon series to give some love to the spheal line

image a convergent square spheal or something like that

[red crypt]

real, miniors shiny is one of my favorites

i love black, and yellow and blue shines

[tender plank]

meteor is also cool but if i don't get my sea turtle soon (within a 1 year span) then i will become a fossil myself

[red crypt]

my favortie fossils are the kalos ones

aurorus and tyrantrum may be a basic pick but i love dinosaurs

[glass patio]

They’re cool pokemon it’s ok

[tender plank]

my fav fossils as a pairing are probs the gen 4 ones, under normal circumstance i usually can't decide on which one would be my fav

[red crypt]

i love shiny tyrantrum

cause blue and dinosaur

[red crypt]

fr

[glass patio]

Reminder that cool kids shop at the goldenrod city department store

[coarse karma]

The good thing about fusions though in PIF is that it's randomized, in that when you press new game if there's more than one of the same species of fusion the sprites shuffle, so alts aren't left out, they can be encountered in the wild the same as a main. And you can swap between sprites from the pokedex menu as well.

[tender plank]

speaking of, i just wanted to share this chill af bas.
look at him. completely content on top of that rock. chilling. vibing, even.
if it wasn't for touga being part of my identity atp, then he would be my fav fossil

god bless, bastiodon

[red crypt]

oh to be a bastiodon chilling on a rock

[gray vine]

my fav fossil

[glass patio]

haven’t thought about what my fav fossils are

[red crypt]

i ngl hope that the ultra beasts get added one day

[outer matrix]

why does bastiodon have soundproof?

[red crypt]

bass-tiodon

idk

[tender plank]

idk? he a castle wall? and he's like.
insulated or smtn?

[red crypt]

last time i checked castle's couldn't hear

[tender plank]

my guess is as good as his

and his guess is 'BAH'

[glass patio]

hmmmm, ig i like the kalos ones too

[red crypt]

french dinosaurs

yippee

[full bison]

I like all the fossils except Galars

[glass patio]

i just looked at all of them

[red crypt]

[red crypt]

i like dracozolt

tho i would love to see what they all fully were if we ever get a legends Galar game

imagine if they get added to pif, then we could probs fuse them like that :0

[tender plank]

I can't argue that the Galar fossils are my least fav fossil groups.
But even then, I don't think they're bad. They convey their inspo very well. And I love little freaks of nature.

[full bison]

I have an issue with the Galar fossils down to the concept. I don't like the idea of bringing things into existence that barely function

[red crypt]

i think the only fossil i directly dislike is aerodactyle

it looks so odd

it's mega is cool tho

[tender plank]

i find it questionable how it gets revided out of a piece of amber (which sometimes shows a mosquito inside anyways??? what's that for)
but i do like aero, but i think it's just the paleo in me

[full bison]

jurassic park reference I think

[red crypt]

i'm planning on maybe making a fakemon regoin based on where i live, if i could make a convergent aerodactyle fit in that would be awesome

[full bison]

Mosquitoes with the blood of the dino in question

[tender plank]

ahhhh.

i see.

[red crypt]

yea it is

but it's a bad dinosaur

[tender plank]

haven't watched the movie in a solid bit :P

[red crypt]

bro is the crimson chin's fursona

[tender plank]

i left for 5 seconds what

[red crypt]

i see no difference

other than the color

but i would love to see the fossils in pif

they could all make such cool fusions

[tender plank]

well. the only 4 who aren't in

[red crypt]

yea

[hot hamlet]

6

Gen 5 and Gen 8 fossils

[tender plank]

???

[red crypt]

and idk if the gen 9 paradox's count

[tender plank]

bro what is a gen 8

[full bison]

that would make 8, not 6

[red crypt]

but i would love to see those too

[hot hamlet]

How?

[tender plank]

there are only 7 gens last time i remember

[red crypt]

good game (it was my first pokemon game and i am biased)

[tender plank]

i must be an amnesiac bc whaaa

[full bison]

Arctovish, arctozolt, dracovish, dracozolt, archen, archeops, tirtouga, carracosta

[hot hamlet]

In that case 2 missing

2 fossils

[red crypt]

ignore the type thing

it was the only proper image of them all i could find

[glass patio]

well, just tirtouga and archeops ig

[red crypt]

ye

[glass patio]

~~and fossil type isn’t necessary smh ~~

[red crypt]

yep

rock does it perfectly

like normal for sound

[sacred rose]

my friend and were theorizing that the last 8 mons sould be the alolan legends of the sun/moon quartet and the tapus and that just got thrown out the window

[unkempt kernel]

Yeah but

Funny hat duck

https://tenor.com/view/mexican-dancing-pokemon-ludicolo-gif-8176036

[hot hamlet]

@spice sage I hate to bother you over something so dumb but… where is Fomantis and the Kalos starters?
Found Jangmo-o already.
Wimpod and Torkoal were easy.
Pumpkaboo and Swirlix we’ve come to understand are part of the custom starter menu, but not actually in game yet.
The starters and Fomantis are the only ones nobody’s found (except one person who has 2 Kalos and Lurantis in HoF but won’t say where)

Being driven crazy over this. I literally ran around the whole game spamming the poke radar

That’s how I found Jangmo-o

[wide merlin]

starter maybe viridian river where we can found other starter

[hot hamlet]

I’ll even just take a nearby town so as to narrow down the search

[dusty arrow]

squeal

(its sound based)

[red crypt]

yes

spheal but it just yells and it’s square

[oblique lotus]

just got the beta. can someone please tell me the new mons locations in remix mode?

[hot hamlet]

We wish

[oblique lotus]

damn guess i better get searching then

[dusty arrow]

im playing pokerogue and just got minior from two different eggs

[hot hamlet]

I’ll tell you Bonk is a Mt Moon rock smash in Classic. And I’d assume Jang is in Diglett Cave with the other dragons

[oblique lotus]

ok bet

[austere thicket]

chat where can i find ||jangmo-o and wimpod||

[oblique lotus]

time to search veridian forest to see if the wimpy boi spawns there in remix or not

[austere thicket]

are the new mons even in remix

[oblique lotus]

one would assume so

there was a hof pic of someone beating the game in remix so

on the beta

[unkempt kernel]

Yeah, there’s a remix mode Hof in #hall-of-fame for the beta

[austere thicket]

ah i see

[oblique lotus]

my plan is to speedrun till i get the radar then go back and check what mon are in all the locations once ive got it and go from there

[austere thicket]

i'm assuming we have the locations of all the new pkmn in the beta for classic?

[hot hamlet]

But they won’t respond to me asking for locations

[hot hamlet]

I can give you all but Fomantis

[austere thicket]

ok

[hot hamlet]

Carbink- ||Mt Moon Rock Smash||
Wimpod- ||Cerulean Rocket Hideout||
Torkoal- ||SS Anne, needs Surge badge||
Jangmo-o -||Safari Area 5 (the desert one) Radar Exclusive||
Pumpkaboo and Swirlix- ||Black Market and custom starter||
Kalos starters- ||Theoretically Viridian River||

[austere thicket]

thank you

[oblique lotus]

cool just got a hat from rock smash

[proud lion]

#1295527045366939668

[stoic canopy]

did they add critical catches this update or has that always been a thing? cus i just got one.

[austere thicket]

hi mightyena

[coral axle]

Mightyena my beloved

[spice sage]

I can't remember if I put the kalos starters in viridian river yet. I don't think Foamantis is in the wild yet

[hot hamlet]

Well thanks for the answer at least. Less brain breaking then

[oblique lotus]

since you are here can you please peep the remix spawns if there are any?

[alpine rune]

I think tomato handles the remix modes

[oblique lotus]

but the game dev should still know where the mons are in his games beta if they are in there

[grave jolt]

Currently grinding a Cleffa to Level Cap since I can't seem to find Carbink 🥴

[inland jewel]

Isn’t remix managed by a separate team?

Considering the last dex expansion saw them scrambling for months to update their own spawns and teams

[oblique lotus]

no clue

[turbid topaz]

I heard that Gourgeist finally got in the game (So Proud the Grass/Ghost Alliance finally won)

[oblique lotus]

for all of you wondering how bro got all those mons into remix in that hof screenshot it was through the use of ng+

[inland jewel]

Thought so

Frog doesn’t touch Remix with a 10-foot pole

[oblique lotus]

lol

[astral plank]

Went back to playing Pokemon Infinite Fusion... only to find out the Vermillion Lighthouse quest was removed... after capturing the many voltorbs... oh well.

[finite hill]

Ludicoolo is no joke ever play pokemon collosium and pokemon XD gale of darkness the trainer Mirror B

Not sure if I spelled anything wrong I'm to tired

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/miror-b-gif-19660101

[grave jolt]

How to Carbink 😦
I've ||been breaking rocks in Mt Moon for an hour|| and still can't find one

[oblique lotus]

make sure you arent on modern mode. afaik the new mons arent in that mode unless they are a static

[molten loom]

||What floor are you doing it on?||

I found it ||In floor one rocks||

[grave jolt]

thx I found it

that's a really annoying place to do that >.<

[alpine rune]

... Wait does this means that remix mode is going to be backed up again?

@pale sparrow

[broken hollow]

I think exploud would be a nice touch

[round light]

How many spaces are left?

[round light]

I have been summoned

[broken hollow]

Like, think of a Noyvern Exploud fusion

[round light]

Would be amazing

[broken hollow]

Absolutely terrifying and beautiful

[round light]

I could also see garchomp/exploud

Would be cool too

[inland jewel]

5

[round light]

Okay, so a slight to no chance of a 3 stage

[full bison]

there's so many great 2-stages the two-slot gap can be

[deft obsidian]

Could be manaphy and phione

Or shaymin

[full bison]

Manaphy I'd be fine with, and I guess Phione has to tag along there

I honestly have no idea why Phione exists. I guess as a consolation prize for people who couldn't get the event, but it still requires someone to get the event at all so it's just pointless

[deft obsidian]

Phione will be troll

[little island]

Can we assume Seedot is also gonna be in? 👉👈 And his little silly self

[alpine rune]

Yes we can assume seedot is also gonna be in.
And his silly little self.

https://tenor.com/view/seedot-gif-25300951

[velvet root]

I wish counterparts would always have better priority
But sadly they dont

[alpine rune]

What counterparts aren't in the game btw

I can only think of camerupt and shiftry

Does Lurantis have a counterpart

[velvet root]

Spritzee
Seedot
Sun moon cover legends
Numel
Petilil
Gothita

[velvet root]

Nope

[alpine rune]

Spritzee has a counterpart?

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/swirlix-slurpuff-pokemon-gif-4052034594083968135

[humble lance]

numel would be great
we need maxies camerupt

[velvet root]

Camerupt has great potential

[deft obsidian]

That's actually make sense

[velvet root]

Did you know that Mightyena (only in gen 3) is seen as Houndooms counterpart

[opaque ether]

Really? How so?

[velvet root]

I dont remember how but always when I check counterpart on every side it says that these 2 were in gen 3
But I never include cross gen counterparts cuz they feel weird

[pale sparrow]

I'm already updating my files as new mons are added, so that it will hopefully be done shortly after the main update is done. I still need infos on all quests that require certain mons to be encountered in certain areas tho, so that stuff like the carvanha quest being undoable doesnt happen again

[alpine rune]

Oh, I see, thank you

[pale sparrow]

I know that its annoying that the new mons arent in this playtest version in modern but just be glad modern mode exists at all

[alpine rune]

Sorry for the ping btw

[pale sparrow]

no all good, I'm glad to see discussions like these when they're going on, gives me info on whats currently going on

[opaque ether]

If anything, I feel like Houndoom and Manectric would be counterparts. "Houndour and Electrike are both dual-staged dog-like Pokémon that have the same catch rate, as do their respective evolutions. Houndoom and Manectric are capable of Mega Evolution and they are version exclusives in Pokémon X and Y as well as Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon"

[velvet root]

Ik that this feels more accurate

[sterile spoke]

Okay, so I wasn't expecting the Lotad line. Not sure how I feel about it. 😮

WHERE IS RIBOMBEE!?

[velvet root]

Ribombee comes with Gogoat qwq

That means I expect it to get in next year

[unkempt kernel]

What if the 2 missing are the gen 3 pikaclones

[velvet root]

The only problem they have is that the bodys are too similiar
I kinda wish one was chonky or so that we can see who is who in fusions

[unkempt kernel]

Yeah but it could be a bruxish type deal

[spice sage]

For anyone who's been playing the beta, about how often would you say you've been seeing autogen sprites? I'm trying to figure if the current rate limit still needs to be tweaked

[fathom ridge]

The first day was very bad but last Sunday I didn’t see any

[sinful smelt]

Numel and gothita, what counterparts are these?

Numel would be sick

[velvet root]

Carvanha and Solosis

[full bison]

Gothitelle really doesn't add much from a gameplay perspective IIRC, but the gothic motif would be cool to see transferred over to stuff

sure it has Shadow Tag, but so does Chandelure, so...

[velvet root]

I mean many will just put random mons in Maid outfits

[west sonnet]

Honestly if we had carte blanche approval to make gothitelle line sprites for solosis line fusions that would work for me

[velvet root]

whos Carte Blanche?

[full bison]

It just means you have complete freedom to do something

[prime dust]

i'd say leave it as is, that way you don't run a risk of acciedentally going over and borking yourself

then again i added the custom fusion sprites from the work around files to make the repo's job a bit easier, so i'm not a 100% faithful way of determining what is best

[spice sage]

Honestly we're not anywhere near the limit right now. I want to make it as seamless as possible

[prime dust]

not everyone is taking part in the beta, its possible many people are waiting for the full release before they play; so see how much you can reasonably tweak the numbers going off what you are seeing before you might run into an issue of getting too close

because the numbers now and the numbers once 6.3 is properly released might be a very stark contrast

[primal bridge]

When does the fusiondex site usually get updated with new pokemon/sprites?

[west sonnet]

When the sprite pack drops

Daena may be delayed due to github misery

[deft trout]

I'm currently not cause I play on Steam Deck, as much I want to im not spending 30 minutes to set all that stuff up again

[spice sage]

Yeah that's the reason I wanted to try in a beta version first. Right now we could comfortably have 10x the number of requests and still not hit the monthly cap so I'm really not too worried.
I lowered the rate limiting window from 1 minute to 15 seconds, we'll see how much of a difference it makes.

[prime dust]

steamdeck download comes with sprites by default, so depending on when you downloaded all you would need would be the monthly sprite packs

autogens only really matter when new mons get added

and once 6.3 hits, mega will update the download links with all the sprites for the downloads that come with them lock stock n barrel

you'd still need the repo for new customs, or you could just wait til the sprite pack drops for the month and get them then

[deft trout]

I know it comes with sprites, but with the online sprites being down I have to set up a new application for it

Idk if it's just me being slow or my Steam Deck not updating

[merry shale]

When are the kalos starters added?

[velvet root]

you can play a beta with them or wait for the update

[coral axle]

Super Excited for the update

[acoustic crow]

I mentioned my want for ludicolo like a week ago this is based as hell

[turbid topaz]

Hey guys, does anyone know Gourgeist's Stats?

For Infinite Fusion I mean, because I'm not sure whether to try designing Gourgeist Fusions that compliment Bulk, or Offense

[velvet root]

it has diffrent stats

[turbid topaz]

Oh, they added all the Sizes?

Or... Are they sticking with One Size?

[prime dust]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message

the explanation

so it's kind of both

[turbid topaz]

Hm... Oh god, I just realized something annoying then

It means Gourgeist has DIFFERENT Self-Fusions

[prime dust]

no

[turbid topaz]

Because if the Sizes are different, then it will affect the Stats

[prime dust]

i don't think frog is going to change the rules of self fusion for 1 mon

likely it will just yield 1 stat block regardless of size

[hot hamlet]

Or it could be treated like the two Lycanrock and just apply statblock A and Statblock B like any other fusion. Just retaining the exp boost.
Gourgeist stats are pretty much flips of each other between smallest and largest anyway

[prime dust]

lycanroc is a bit different in that those are two separate mons

[wide merlin]

i hope than a new pokemon are leak this week end , it's hard to wait with a bit of missing pokemon

[coral axle]

I’m patient but it’s exciting to see what those two spots are

[prime dust]

5

why do people get 2

there are 5 spots left

we still have 493, 493, 498, 499 and 500

[coral axle]

I meant the two spots before ludicolo :>

[ember bear]

ig it's just because those 2 specifically are separated

[full bison]

It's been a reveal each weekend, so it's probably getting revealed then

[unique flame]

last 3 are castform and whe simply dont get the ice form

cope

[hexed agate]

5 slots, new sandstorm form incoming

[unique flame]

but now seriously i think the last 3 are a legendary trio, i just dont know each one

[prime dust]

i mean if it is a trio there are only a few options

[grave jolt]

Aura maybe 😌

[prime dust]

it's either the emotions, the genies or the justice

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/zygarde-perfect-zygarde-zygarde-perfect-pokemon-pokemon-xy-gif-6971736008687605923

Morning all

[unique flame]

oh god plz dont be emotion

[prime dust]

the genies won't happen since that requires 6 slots

[ember bear]

justice would also include keldeo

[unique flame]

showdown people would shit themselves

[prime dust]

not nessicarily

[ember bear]

well, theorically it should

[prime dust]

keldeo is separate

[grave jolt]

It's victini 5 times

[hexed agate]

What if I told you

Tentaqwil from Pokemon Clover is getting in?

[velvet root]

You dont dare

[grave jolt]

Just like Simispark

[unique flame]

alola forms are out of question right?

[prime dust]

any regional form is

[grave jolt]

I wish

[prime dust]

same with megas

[grave jolt]

Alola is the only region available with regionals.

[unique flame]

i dont blame frog as bodies they would look the same most of the time

[full bison]

I feel like if Gens 8 and 9 were available, certain regional variants would need to be let in, but they aren't so they wouldn't be.

[hexed agate]

It could apply to Burmy, for example

Or forms in general

[bronze barn]

I am still extracting

[unique flame]

wormadans have dif types which one frog would chose

[grave jolt]

Grass prob

[unique flame]

really i would pick metal

[hexed agate]

Fairly often tbh

[ember bear]

i would pick neither!

[grave jolt]

3/4 of my encounters

[unique flame]

ground them

[ember bear]

well ig it is slightly more interesting as typing

[prime dust]

we'd get em all

[ember bear]

or better yet, none

[bronze barn]

LET'S GOOO

MOTHIM RULES

https://tenor.com/view/mothim-moth-pokemon-flying-moth-pokemon-game-gif-13664756226998360471

[grave jolt]

The hypothetical is that only one gets selected.

[bronze barn]

2 mothims

[grave jolt]

Vivillion

[spice sage]

Still today?

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/vivillon-butterfly-gif-7864206

[hexed agate]

Not today, will recheck

[molten loom]

I saw a bunch at the start, but later they are fairly rare

[spice sage]

Damn, randomized mode?

[full bison]

The pixel aesthetic of Vivillon could be fun

[bronze barn]

LET'S GOOOOO I FINISHED MY EXTRACTIONING CHAT

[grave jolt]

Normal mode wild encounters 😔

[unique flame]

didnt we had a team focused on spriting wild mons?

[grave jolt]

We have the sprites, just repo speed.

[full bison]

man, the gitlab situation screwed everything up worse than I realized

all of this due to companies refusing to be consistent with ToS or properly define them

[spice sage]

Oh, wild encounters could just be that there's no custom sprites for these Pokemon tbf

[trail hull]

unless it's with the new mons , it isn't possible as team wild did all sprites

[spice sage]

How about trainer battles?

[grave jolt]

I'm grinding in Viridian forest, so I'd have expected them to be the first wilds spirited

[turbid topaz]

6 Spots actually; 493, 493, 494, 498, 499, and 500

[spice sage]

I don't think they have every single combinations yet 🤔

[trail hull]

they moved on to trainer encounters

[grave jolt]

I need a Clefable/Carbink sprite 😔

[spice sage]

Those are all made already tho no?

[trail hull]

no they still have quite a few

[trail hull]

sorry but you accidentally counted 493 twice

[spice sage]

Are you using fusion repels? I would find it very surprising that you're encountering more than 5 new fusions every 15 seconds by grinding wild encounters 🤔

[velvet root]

Maybe randomized to everything is fused

[unique flame]

you can ask for it #sprite-requests

i can do it for you if you show how it fits in a spritetober week 3 theme

[prime dust]

you put 493 twice

[tender plank]

infinite slots glitch

[full bison]

Everyone Is Here!

[tender plank]

finally we have the slots to add literally every single thing in existence to PIF!

[hot hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/super-smash-bros-ultimate-everyone-is-here-gif-17099121

[spice sage]

Oh it turns out that I fucked something up with the cloudflare worker so it the game literally couldn't download any custom sprites since this morning

I'm kinda surprised that no one brought it up 😮

[prime dust]

...

[grave jolt]

lmao makes sense

[prime dust]

i mean there's that whole thing that mega put out that is basically "yeah the new repo has a limit, once its been reached you get autogens for a while until the cap gets reset"

[spice sage]

I tried to make the limit to 15 seconds but the lowest it allows me to go is 60

[prime dust]

so most people probably assumed that is what happened

i mean x amount of sprites per minute isn't horrible

[spice sage]

Yeah that's a bit confusing I think because that limit is an individual limit for every player, not a global thing

[prime dust]

oh

i thought it was global

if it is individual that makes things more complicated

[spice sage]

Yeah yeah I just increased the number of sprites allowed

[spice sage]

See what I meant by the message is confusing

[prime dust]

lol

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-26317296

followed immediately by

https://tenor.com/view/gi-joe-knowing-is-half-the-battle-knowing-battle-gif-25791425

[coral axle]

Oh! Hopefully this fixes things

[long seal]

I don't know what channel to say this on but I think it would be cool to add Solgaleo and Lunala, mostly cause I want a Solgaleo, Lunala and Necrozma/Ultra Necrozma Fusion

[prime dust]

no channel really

[stoic canopy]

And thus, the stall meta was born, not out of necessity. But out of a desire to see all of our teams spites.

[prime dust]

or at best you can talk about that kind of stuff in here

[stoic canopy]

The sun cat and the moon bat needs 4 slots to work so I don’t think it’ll get in before this update.

[prime dust]

we won't

unless frog decides to say f it and go to 501

just to throw the cosmog line as the last 4

we might see one or two legendaries, 3 would be pushing it but possible

[full bison]

I'm adamant in my call that slot 500 is Victini or Diancie

[unique flame]

what if they just use the normal sun and moon and we hmmmm fuse them with necrozma

[prime dust]

solrock and lunatone

genius

but im not sure how well they are liked

both by the community at large and by frog

[full bison]

Solrock and Lunatone are certainly pokemon that exist

[turbid topaz]

@prime dust @trail hull It was marked Twice by all of you Previously, so that means if it's like that, then it'd be a Form-Changing Pokemon

[prime dust]

they are only memorable due to tate and liza

form shift mons have 2 slots

[turbid topaz]

Yes.

[prime dust]

so they can't occupy the same slot

i.e., if there is a form shift mon, it'd take up 493 and 494

not 493 twice

[turbid topaz]

Didn't we do 450 and 450a or something for Necrozma?

[prime dust]

that got changed

it caused issues with the form shift

necrozma is 450 while ultra is 470

[turbid topaz]

And how are you sure it's already changed in advance? What if it's just similar to Necrozma?

[prime dust]

again

if it is a shift like that it will need 2 dedicated slots

otherwise the form shift wont work right

that is why ultra got changed

the sprite form shift wasn't working when it was 450a

or 450-1

or whatever it was

[unique flame]

how lunala and sogaleo form change works in gmae

never playes sun n moon

[prime dust]

its only in us and um

and, im not sure