pif-hoenn-discussion

[trail hull]

@deft obsidian

[steel meadow]

this sound like i can expect a goat from you in the future yes?

[trail hull]

@deft obsidian

[fathom ridge]

also what exactly is a silent ping? does it just not notify the user?

[trail hull]

Nope it works on phone too

[deft obsidian]

I'm phone rn, but I remember my silent ping did work before

[trail hull]

discord just said screw that guy in particular

[plucky tendon]

maybe idk gogoat is kinda hard for me to draw but i do really like it so we’ll see

also i hate hate hate hate smogon skiddo and gogoats palettes like a lot

might make custom ones

[deft obsidian]

Dosen't active notification but you will se that red thing 🔴

[steel meadow]

oh please do!

I think we have a custom palette in the goat thread that is loosely based of smogon colors

[simple gulch]

so what mon is new

[steel meadow]

gogoat, didnt u see #1050404143807873157?

[steel meadow]

this is why you shouldve participated in the stampede!

[simple gulch]

im busy riding on mine

[steel meadow]

you're riding on the santa goat!?

[simple gulch]

hows else , i will be santa

[steel meadow]

hot.

i mean what

do you have anything else cooking goat wise?

[simple gulch]

:v not yet no motivation

[steel meadow]

how does one motivate an apple?

[outer matrix]

Get them kind words

[simple gulch]

doctor massacre

[steel meadow]

doctor what?

[simple gulch]

killing doctors

[steel meadow]

w h a t

[outer matrix]

-# || cue angry Dr reflex hammer gif ||

[simple gulch]

chasing them, make them crumble in fear

[steel meadow]

do you always have to kill a doctor to make a sprite?

[simple gulch]

why u think i can make 1 sprite per day currently, im in hospital

[steel meadow]

this is why i shouldnt listen to my parents and be a doctor

[trail hull]

oh no why are you in the hospital

[gray vine]

Mental Hospital

[trail hull]

oh makes sense

[gray vine]

They keep killing Doctors gotta study that

[simple gulch]

over worked

[trail hull]

oh no

[simple gulch]

:v at least i can rest some

:v can u tell the fusion combo?

[gray vine]

I just play sick whenever I dont feel like working

Which isn't often as I feel bad lying about thar lul tho my body tends to get sick when I want it to be

[trail hull]

duskull/machamp

[outer matrix]

jojo reference for the hat?

[simple gulch]

idk

[trail hull]

thank you

[simple gulch]

jojo siwa?

damm bone is hard

[gray vine]

Uwu

[steel meadow]

pun intended?

[radiant helm]

i swear, internet is going to have field day with face Liko made in ep 67

[full bison]

Finally committed to drawing something to completion. Pretty easy when it's just a voltorb fusion and is therefore ball

pretty obvious direction for a Victini/Votorb fusion, I'll admit

[steel meadow]

imagine this thing v-creating you to death

[full bison]

Electrode speed with V-Create does sound pretty nasty

heck, Victory Star on various Pokemon fusions sounds fun for a Doubles playthrough

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/zygarde-perfect-zygarde-zygarde-perfect-pokemon-pokemon-xy-gif-6971736008687605923

god I hope at least one mon I had on my list gets on

[velvet root]

Rn I guessed right

[full bison]

I'm still coping that it's a UB. Again, probably Victini, but a man can dream

[velvet root]

I mean Victini could work for it being in the Event channels
Events are things you can win
Victini is the winning pokemon

[full bison]

victini also makes sense with the 500k followers thing

big celebration, V is the roman numeral for 5, etc.

[velvet root]

Ngl Victini is nice
Its kinda fun too

https://tenor.com/view/victini-pokémon-victini-fire-fire-types-fire-type-pokémon-gif-26750277

[radiant helm]

victimi movie(s) were a crime tho, he was so annoying in them that they soured the pokemon for me for good lol

ah sorry. Victini

we used to joke with my sibling about Victini being Victimi because "he such a victim FEEL BAD FOR HIM DO YOU FEEL BAD ALREADY" and it kinda stuck when i remember how to write its name

[stoic canopy]

I was the same way with the B&W games. I just think half of the Pokémon in those games were so ugly. I know the story is like good or whatever but still.

[velvet root]

Pov all mythicals in movies

[full bison]

that's why I stopped watching the Pokemon movies after the Zoroark one

[radiant helm]

honestly Hoopa one wasnt bad

[full bison]

most of the Mythicals end up feeling like the exact same character from what I've seen

[radiant helm]

also Mew tends to be fun in movies i think

[steel meadow]

meeeeew~

on the wheel in the first movie

[stoic canopy]

Mostly cus mew tends to do what it wants when it wants

[full bison]

Mew's adorable because they never gave it telepathy, guarantee it'd be a petulant child just like Shaymin/Diancie/Hoopa if it spoke

[radiant helm]

but Victini to me is the archetypical victim because of how much they focused on victimhood compared to other stuff

admittably it was coupled with the fact that Legendary designs in gen 5 were just bad imho

but thats a side issue. Gen 5 rarely hits but when it does it does hard, like Cottonee etc

[steel meadow]

Gen 5 has like 40% hits for me

[radiant helm]

still kinda salty gen 5 has no cool dragons

[stoic canopy]

It also helps that new was before the whole legends are gods thing that had to be applied to all of them post…like gen 3

[radiant helm]

yeah legends=gods kinda sucks when you remember you can battle other players with legends and trade them

"oops, guess your world doesn't have god of land anymore"

[rancid nymph]

Haxourus, Hydreigon, Reshiram Zekrom

[radiant helm]

IKR? all the slots and no cool dragon 😦

[steel meadow]

that i dont really agree with. haxorous is cool imo

although hydreigon is really mid for pseudo standards

[rancid nymph]

It also takes 10000 years to evolve

[stoic canopy]

Another reason I hate B&W

[steel meadow]

yeah ive only used hydreigon once and it wasnt even evolved for the champion fight. dissapointed.

[rancid nymph]

Side note, Haxorous should have been a psudo legendary

[steel meadow]

have we ever had 2 pseudos in the same gen?

[radiant helm]

honestly i think i liked one gen less than 5 when it comes to mon lineup

dunno how popular take it is, but imho gen 8 had worse good-to-bad ratio than gen 5

But its mostly from bland, not bad bad designs

[steel meadow]

except this with archaludon if u count that.

[rancid nymph]

Salamence and Metagross

[steel meadow]

i dont.

[steel meadow]

wait really?

i thought salamence was gen 2 for some reason

did we get a pseudo in gen 2?

[radiant helm]

then itd be salamence + tyranitar

[steel meadow]

ttar

how could i forget

man hoenn kinda goated ngl

[radiant helm]

meanwhile i cant help but wonder

can you pls remind me

what was gen 4 pseudo

[velvet root]

Chomp

[radiant helm]

ahh the landshark

ok ty

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-hisuian-snow-pokemon-legends-arceus-anipoke-garchomp-gif-25904386

[steel meadow]

garchomp is the 2nd most iconic pseudo for me

only behind gen 1 cuz gen 1

[full bison]

Kinda helps that Cynthia is so iconic herself

[steel meadow]

my brain is wired to hold garchomp as the gold standard of cool

[rancid nymph]

It did also introduce Volbeat and Illumise

[steel meadow]

i dont hate them as much as other people do

if they werent absolute useless trash in the games id probably use them even

[rancid nymph]

They’re still completely useless

[radiant helm]

also plusle and minum

[steel meadow]

now the duo rats id stomp

[full bison]

Gen 3's big problem was their bizarre obsession with slow, frail mixed attackers dominating the lineup

Why is the shark torpedo not super fast

[rancid nymph]

Meh. The positive/negative energy thing is at least an interesting concept

[radiant helm]

so you can drift out of it's way

i only did it once but trust me, drifting with wooden ship is cool

[plucky tendon]

ok i don’t like gogoat’s colors and i don’t feel like continuing work on it so just pay attention to skiddo

[outer matrix]

gogoat has goat in the name, so it's the goat of all time

[dusty arrow]

what does this hint mean

[silent acorn]

Deep in my case, you can find life

Wut

The hell is that

Case?

[gray vine]

minor

[dusty arrow]

ITS CLAMPERL

[gray vine]

nah

[dusty arrow]

yeah

[gray vine]

Clamperl doesnt carry a briefcase

[dusty arrow]

neither does minior

[gray vine]

says you

[silent acorn]

It doesn't

Thats a shell

[dusty arrow]

also clamperl would be funnier than minior

[dusty arrow]

a rock isnt a case either

[silent acorn]

Ivory

[dusty arrow]

also

furred cannonball??

minior dont have fur

it could be spheal?

and my internet just died

[silent acorn]

Furred cannonball from way up high
Struck by ivory flesh, and you could die
Deep in my case, you can find life
Survivor’s bliss in a land of strife
To find such liquid, pay close attention
You get two hints to solve the tension
Sprite and write,
Spread comprehension

[dusty arrow]

i only say spheal because A: fur, seals are mammals, spheal is seal, spheal is mammal

and B: cannonball round

[silent acorn]

Survivor's bliss?

[dusty arrow]

idk

[gray vine]

i would just guess those are 2 different mons

first is spheal

and second clamperl

survivors bliss makes sense as clamperl lives in the deep sea and protects itself via the shell

liquid i dont get

gorebyss does suck peoples live juices but i dunno if thats really it

[silent acorn]

Shame i dont have the poll results

I like to see how real the Spheal support is

[gray vine]

well they arent polled so it doesnt matter

all mons now are selected by the toad

[silent acorn]

It does

For next time

In the sense of knowing the demand

[gray vine]

well..yeah a poll matters when there is a poll lul but there isnt one now so they dont mattrer

[silent acorn]

Because froggo could add a diferent mon that fills a similar niche

[silent acorn]

I find them interesting

Like Salazzle being 3rd

[dusty arrow]

another cannonball with ivory whatever is togedemaru

but thats really it for that one

[silent acorn]

I mean

I dunno its a weird riddle

And how exactly are we solving any of them?

[dusty arrow]

i mean, from way up high could be referencing how togedemaru is found in mountains in gen 7

[silent acorn]

Question for real

[dusty arrow]

plus we would also need to look at dex entries probably

[silent acorn]

Are supposedly any of these riddles for ONE SINGULAR pokemon?

[dusty arrow]

thats true

most of them seem mostly separate from each other

[silent acorn]

They exclude one another

[dire beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-tirtouga-surprise-awake-gif-4525527121039412109

I want Tirtouga so badly

[dusty arrow]

carracosta would be so cool

[dire beacon]

[silent acorn]

It would but.

Nothing hints at them yet

[dire beacon]

Sadge

[silent acorn]

And as we know Froggo only repeats types TWICE

[dusty arrow]

so what are our predictions for this?
we have clamperl, minior, togedemaru, spheal, (well all of these except minior are from me)

[silent acorn]

Such liquid

Hm

[brave torrent]

Best thing about Tirtouga is that it will come in pair with Archen

[dusty arrow]

no it wont

actually

[tender plank]

THERE'S ANOTHER FAN???

[silent acorn]

One at a time

[tender plank]

I... I'm not alone...

[silent acorn]

Am i invisible paste or something?

[dusty arrow]

mf ive been here the entire time

[dire beacon]

Is Protean ability on the game already with kecleon?

[brave torrent]

Explain why not

[dusty arrow]

i believe so

[dusty arrow]

they arent paired together in the vote

[brave torrent]

Both are Unova fossils

[silent acorn]

No one forces froggo

He decides

[dusty arrow]

we didnt get tyrantrum and aurorus together

[silent acorn]

His calling

Happened afterwards

[brave torrent]

Oh, we didn't?

[silent acorn]

Nope

[brave torrent]

My bad then

[dusty arrow]

they were added in a close time together but they werent together

[brave torrent]

[dusty arrow]

today i found out that kecleon has a fucking insane sp def stat

WHY DOES KECLEON HAVE 120 SPECIAL DEFENSE???

[gray vine]

i mean i still think its pretty clear they are 2 mons, furred cannonball is kinda very clearly spheal and then there is just the other mon left

[silent acorn]

Many normal type mons have that

No idea why

[dusty arrow]

this is a ledian moment ig

[trail hull]

theren around 40 pokemons between them

[dire beacon]

Idk lol

[tender plank]

oh shit my bad, looks like my vision is... awful. straight up bad.
(i mean it happens when your right eye has a gem lodged in it)

[silent acorn]

Furred ivory cannonball...
Such liquid

[dusty arrow]

only two months

[silent acorn]

I guess in case it switched to steel type to tank fire types? Or rock?

[trail hull]

it isn't that close and it's still around 40 mons separatign each other

[dusty arrow]

in the dex

[dusty arrow]

now i kinda wanna use a proten kecleon team

[trail hull]

so yeah it shows frog doesn't care about keeping the counterparts with each other

[dusty arrow]

since we wont have protean until greninja gets added

[silent acorn]

Riddle repost

Furred cannonball from way up high
Struck by ivory flesh, and you could die
Deep in my case, you can find life
Survivor’s bliss in a land of strife
To find such liquid, pay close attention
You get two hints to solve the tension
Sprite and write,
Spread comprehension

[trail hull]

why repost tho

[silent acorn]

Need to read it lol

[dire beacon]

Yeah but Kecleon Will need to use Choise Scarf

[silent acorn]

Sorry

[trail hull]

it's already solved

[dusty arrow]

will it though

[silent acorn]

[dusty arrow]

if at first you dont succeed:

just fuse it with deoxys lmao

[silent acorn]

Tell what then

[dire beacon]

I forgot it, This is a fusion game

[dusty arrow]

exactly

[silent acorn]

I am zinking

[dusty arrow]

but the protean fusions are gonna go insane once greninja gets added

[trail hull]

it has no sprite lol I thinkl the website is outdated

[dusty arrow]

ooh

the core in the middle reminds me of a mega stone ngl

[trail hull]

also the person who made that was a talented person

[dusty arrow]

i also like the alt

any other ideas to fuse with kecleon?

[trail hull]

yeah

[dusty arrow]

i got one

gimme a sec-

[silent acorn]

What is the answer to the riddle?

[dusty arrow]

normal/rock may be a bad typing

but remember: protean
bottom text

[silent acorn]

What does Attention, Tension and Comprehension mean?

[dusty arrow]

also pretty bulky

[silent acorn]

For some reason i am thinking about Oranguru

[dusty arrow]

the riddles are just makin me think of uxie

https://tenor.com/view/uxie-jumpscare-billboard-makesweet-pokemon-gif-26779353

[silent acorn]

It does fit this last bit

You know couldn't Furred Cannoball mean the Coconut of Passimian?

[dusty arrow]

TRUE-

[trail hull]

This, people in event general always resolve them fast: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/737765817474744350/1289649679931281448/image.png?ex=66f9975c&is=66f845dc&hm=fdd713a7a22c142e1eb604d1276196ab1aaa50b3cbd41bc495d7b5c906f65eb3&

[dusty arrow]

and coconuts have milk in them

[glass patio]

i hope we get the new mon revealed this weekend

[silent acorn]

Where did they find this? And hey i was right

Coconuts

[glass patio]

also look at my epic new pfp

[trail hull]

The riddle always lead to a pory message

[dusty arrow]

furred cannonball: coconut (duh)
ivory flesh: inside of a coconut, people have been killed by falling coconuts
deep in my case: just the milk
survivors bliss: stereotypically used as a food source in stranded island scenarios
to find such liquid: milk, again

[tender plank]

beautiful

[dusty arrow]

chat is this a monkey moment

[trail hull]

It’s an old message that gets modified in #1149373303669145751 the modified message only appear when the next riddle appear

[dusty arrow]

shift gear protean lmao

this is just a cool sprite

[split solstice]

Where do I make custom ability requests?

[dusty arrow]

ability..?

[split solstice]

Yep

[dusty arrow]

thats not a thing here

whuh

[split solstice]

For example, the legendary birds fusion could definitely use levitate

[dusty arrow]

you-

what

just use debug mode

[split solstice]

I guess...it just would be great to make that canon in the game

Imagine having a moldos or zaptres die to a mud-bomb despite it very clearly flying.

[silent acorn]

Yeah cool, you can request that at #game-suggestions

[split solstice]

Yeah, I just found that channel. Thanks anyway!

[full bison]

At this point I just wanna know what fruit will be used for tomorrow's hint

[silent acorn]

The Peach

Because Peach for...

https://tenor.com/view/lilligant-happy-smile-gif-529187512381127051

Princess Peach

[unkempt stone]

What riddles

[silent acorn]

The things at Event-announcements

[unkempt stone]

Ah

[inland jewel]

i mean... pretty bulky means nothing against x4

[dusty arrow]

x4 means nothing against protean

ALSO

WHY IS

SPONGEBOB VENUSAUR/ULTRA-NECROZMA

[inland jewel]

against 40 speed?

[dusty arrow]

protect

[inland jewel]

if it has access to any priority i think you should lead with that instead

[dusty arrow]

or that yeah

probably has quick attack

...
which yknow not the best but i mean hey

[glass patio]

tf

[proud lion]

Hiiiii. I’m Spongbob

[outer matrix]

Where's Patrick and squidward?

[hollow creek]

Let’s hope tomorrow is the reveal

[full bison]

I'm like 90% sure it's Victini at this point, with the remaining 10% being coping over Ultra Beasts

[twin phoenix]

Huuuuh, what is this..

First mons I think of when I read the new hint aren't close at all: Xerneas and Furfrou.

[dusty arrow]

why is bro posed like hes the honored one

[clear lichen]

[Spoilers] ||Because his defences put him in the perfect opportunity to get turned into Rai/xys||

[dusty arrow]

ok fair enough

[full bison]

1. I have no idea how you got those mons out of the riddle, and 2) It's almost guaranteed the mon getting revealed has little to do with the riddles and more to do with the photos and their descriptions

[twin phoenix]

"Fur" and "life"

Idk where the pictures are.

Never been able to find any. 😦

[dusty arrow]

ive made a mono-type team for all the types for pif

now i just need to actually

use them

i know i want to at least do the ghost one on halloween

[full bison]

Pinned comments in #event-general

[twin phoenix]

Exeggutor? I'm still on the fruit/food mon like Cherubi and Slurpuff because it can't be Applin.

[dusty arrow]

watch frog troll us and add the applin line and no other gen 8 mons

[ebon gulch]

triple fusion of aron/tyrunt/squirtle because then my armored trex gets cannons

[dusty arrow]

live fire type reaction:

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-sad-emoji-emoji-stare-disgust-gif-405076546600269050

[ebon gulch]

hydro pump go splash

also fire types are like that to all pokemon lol

[dusty arrow]

i mean the fact that

all of its types resist fire

therefore you haxe a 6x fire resist

[ebon gulch]

im pretty sure steel and rock are weak to fire arent they

and ground

[dusty arrow]

rock isnt weak to fire

also i thought it was rock/dragon

and then the added water type-

[dusty arrow]

only steel is weak to fire in those three

[ebon gulch]

in total u would have rock ground steel dragon and water

[dusty arrow]

it would be steel/dragon/water

so only a norml fire resist

[dusty arrow]

where did you get the ground from

[ebon gulch]

tyrantrum i think but he might be rock been a while

[dusty arrow]

hes rock/dragon

aggron is rock/steel, tyrantrum is rock/dragon, blastoise is water

[ebon gulch]

would we use rock or steel

rock/dragon/water or steel/dragon/water

either way the only reason i want it is because its a trex wearing a battleship

[dusty arrow]

well aggron/tyrantrum would be steel/dragon

[olive epoch]

ARCHEOPS

WHERE ARCHEOPS

[grave jolt]

142.18b

[olive epoch]

FUCK

[outer matrix]

I mean, she's not wrong archeops is in the game

[stoic canopy]

Don’t archdops have like a really bad ability?

[grave jolt]

Defeatest: Whenever the user is below half health, their attack and special attack stats are cut in half.

[glass patio]

that’s a thing?

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Defeatist_(Ability) oh damn

that sucks a lot

what r archeops’ stats anyways

[glass patio]

the attack and special attack are quite high

i imagine it could be quite good when fused with a pokemon to remove that ability

kinda like slaking truant

[grave jolt]

terrible bulk, bad defensive typing, not enough move utility to take advantage of its stats.

[glass patio]

i need to understand better competitive

i just looked at high number and thought wow that’s epic it looks good

[clear lichen]

I think you're underselling how good 140 Attack, 110 Speed and 2 great offensive types are

[glass patio]

...

[clear lichen]

There is no way Archeops isn't at least somewhat used in fusions

[glass patio]

I’m confused

i don’t understand competitive ok

[grave jolt]

it'd be absurd in fusions

[clear lichen]

Not you dw

[glass patio]

ik

[clear lichen]

Archeops does have a bit of movepool issues but like

It's 140 attack and 110 speed

And if nothing else, it has Head Smash

150 BP and no more Defeatist to worry about

[grave jolt]

Great Attack, Good Special Attack, High Speed for Infinite fusion standards, great offensive typing

[clear lichen]

I feel like Araquanid would be broken or at least top tier despite its terrible base stats

I mean

Water Bubble

Enough said

Water Bubble being its signature ability also lowers the chance they just ban the ability instead of Araquanid

[grave jolt]

I was just talking about from a vanilla standard, Archeops would be great in IF.

[clear lichen]

From a vanilla standard, Archeops is the only drawback ability mon that isn't unusable trash

It's not good, and it's ability's effects are very visible, but it is usable in lower tiers

In fact, it was broken in some of them iirc

[grave jolt]

PUBL in gen 7, so not the absolute worst.

[clear lichen]

It's a lot easier to play around an ability that makes you useless if you lose 50% of your HP than an ability that makes you useless

[grave jolt]

Slaking should've gotten infiltrator as an HA/j

[clear lichen]

I get nerfing Slaking

Lore wise it's just a big gorilla sloth thing

It doesn't really have a reason to be able to contend with box art legendaries

But all of Regigigas' dex entries suggests it is on par with box art legendaries

[glass patio]

what other drawback ability mons are there?

[clear lichen]

So why tf did it need to be nerfed by an ability?

[clear lichen]

Slaking and Regigigas are the only other ones with only 1 always bad ability

But Toedscruel can be considered as one of them

[glass patio]

Ohh I knew regigigas’ slow start i had forgotten

[grave jolt]

was prob a gameplay thing for Slaking since it'd be the single most powerful pokemon you could get before Norman, who ran it as his ace.

[clear lichen]

Toedscruel without Mycelium Might would've been so insane

[quaint matrix]

It is so fascinating to me that GameFreak is fully aware of designing Regigigas and its drawback so much so that they intentionally do not allow it to learn recover/status moves until Gen 8

[vestal isle]

I had a Slaking / Genesect fusion that went crazy

lil cyber monke

[clear lichen]

Gamefreak actively avoids giving Spore to a fast Pokemon

[glass patio]

I see

[quaint matrix]

Like they don't just think "yeah Regigigas is a bit too good so lets nerf him with Slow Start" and stops there no no literally it cannot stall at all until Gen 8

And by then Regigigas stalling ain't that special

[clear lichen]

A fast Spore user would be broken

[quaint matrix]

Prankster Breloom moment

[grave jolt]

I used Slaking/Azumaril in my fairy run, and even despite being the worse fusion of that pair it was a great attacker

[clear lichen]

Are you hallucinating

[grave jolt]

Whimsicott moment

[quaint matrix]

No it was a /j brother

[clear lichen]

Oh ok

And yeah I don't get why Whimsicott learns Spore in IF

From both a design standpoint and game balance standpoint

[grave jolt]

Paraslash moment

[quaint matrix]

It could always learn that couldn't it

In like the actual games

[clear lichen]

Nope

Spore is only learnt by mushrooms

Gamefreak actively avoids having a fast Spore user

[quaint matrix]

Another point for the Klefki/Breloom gaming

[clear lichen]

The fastest Pokemon that naturally gets Breloom in vanilla Pokemon is Breloom, who has a low base 70 Speed

There's also Smeargle who gets it via sketch with 75 speed

If Toedscruel didn't have Mycelium Might, it'd be easily the fastest Spore user and probably broken

But because of Mycelium Might, it is effectively a 0 speed Spore user

[grave jolt]

Every possible base spore user in if

Some of these are better than others

[clear lichen]

Some of these make absolutely 0 sense

Why does the Mareep line learn Spore

It's not a mushroom

It's not a genetic mutant

It's not even a grass type

[grave jolt]

It also learns cotton spore

[clear lichen]

Cotton Spore is cotton

Spore is mushroom spores

[quaint matrix]

TM Spore goes hard

[clear lichen]

Also they aren't even consistent with the cotton Spore thing

If they were, Roserade would be on this list

[grave jolt]

The only ones I'm aware learn it in the game naturally, since TM102 isn't normally available, are
Parasect
Paras
and Shroomish

[clear lichen]

That sounds about right

I remember something weird with Spore and the Shroomish line

Idk if Breloom learns it at a far higher level or not at all

It's one or the other

[grave jolt]

Breloom doesn't learn spore at all, shroomish gets it at level 40

[clear lichen]

L bozo

[grave jolt]

Can't even teach Breloom spore via TM

[clear lichen]

Gamefreak literally making the fastest Spore user have to go through an ordeal to get Spore

They really don't want Spore on a Pokemon without trash speed

[grave jolt]

Might train up a spore Breloom for the Ninjask fusion tbh, would be like 30 faster than Parajask

[outer matrix]

Imagine if whimsicott naturally learned spore in the mainline games with prankster combined

[clear lichen]

Breloom (70)
Brute Bonnet (55)
Shiinotic, Parasect, Amoonguss (30)
Toedscruel (100, but ability makes it always move last)

[grave jolt]

]

[clear lichen]

Who cares about Prankster, you have 116 speed

Maximise the value by running not Prankster to hit Dark types frfr

[dusty arrow]

i just had the funniest jjk reference fusion idea

unfortunately one half of the fusion isnt in the game

my other plan is using porygon-z because adaptability

[grave jolt]

can run Infiltrator to bypass Sub and Safeguard

[dusty arrow]

ive been thinking of a few of them actually

kinda sucks i cant sprite for shit though

[grave jolt]

just need a move that scales off speed instead of atk or spa to make Ninjask OP

[dusty arrow]

OH MY GOD IM BRILLIANT

OK THE OTHER HALF I WAS TALKING ABOUT IS SOLROCK TO BE THE WHEEL

BOTH OF THEM HAVE 8 POINTS

IM BIG BRAIN

[still phoenix]

is delphox and greninja in the game now?

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

[still phoenix]

?

[velvet root]

It will be there in the next update

[still phoenix]

aw man

[quaint matrix]

New update in 1-2 months tho so get hyped

[storm rose]

Yeah lets get grumpig in the game yall

[velvet root]

[simple gulch]

:v what abour diggesby tho

[storm rose]

I just want to have grumpig in the game

[simple gulch]

spoinks better

[storm rose]

Both are great but lets agree to disagree on who is better

[simple gulch]

:v grumpig is kinda eh , not much new to offer

[storm rose]

Grumpig has best design in my opinion

[storm rose]

Best design in the whole mainline pokemon game

But i know people have different opinion on that and thats fine

But i still want it in the game

[still phoenix]

I want a suicidal pokemon 👍

[quaint matrix]

Like Grumpig is your Top 1 Pokemon design?

[velvet root]

I wouldnt go so far cuz some stuff on Grumpig could have looked better to fit its inspos
But I really like it lately and can see it bring cool fusions

[storm rose]

Yeah

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/grumpig-pokemon-pig-pokemon-grumpig-ready-to-fight-gif-12839734600013034244

[quaint matrix]

That is a real strong opinion

But I respect it

[storm rose]

My top 5 favourite pokemon design wise are: grumpig, dialga, beedrill, swampert and rayquaza

[velvet root]

If you want the support from more people show them what someone can do with your Mon
Aka
Make some Grumpig fusions to show why it is worth

[storm rose]

Great idea i will do so with grumpig and spoink since that way i show the line

Thanks

[velvet root]

no prob

Cant wait to see them

Talking about seeing
Goats

[twin phoenix]

Palkia space goat~~

[velvet root]

It was quiet some work but it was worth it

[steel meadow]

Also why chat dead

[storm rose]

Great

[steel meadow]

You can use it as propaganda for spoink line

I think someone did a grumpig/swanna for this aswell

Here

[storm rose]

Thank you so much

[steel meadow]

Designed by gwenegade (same for the spoink actually i just sprited it)

[storm rose]

just a little beginning still working on this one

[steel meadow]

Ooh thats looking interesting

The ears fits suprisingly well

[velvet root]

Interesting start

What if you make the tentacle arms into springs?

[storm rose]

Was already planning that tbh but thanks anyway

[velvet root]

Nice

[merry shale]

There is one evolutionary family I wish to see and that's the Florges line ya know Flabebe Floette and Florges
If they are in the game ignore this if not now is the time to add them in

[storm rose]

update

[velvet root]

Cool pig

[whole tinsel]

It reminds me a lot of the bird legendary in S/V DLC

[trail hull]

if slurpuff gets added in the body fusion could be salty things instead of desserts

[grave jolt]

Grumpig/slurpuff could be a roasted pig with an apple in its mouth

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-pig-bbq-ribs-gif-12651216

[trail hull]

lmao

[molten latch]

[velvet root]

That idea is awesome!
Even more since sometimes people put caramell on it

[grave jolt]

I've decided to start working on a sprite theme I made for myself to get practice making sprites.

I'm doing gym leader pokemon, one for each leader from each generation up to gen 6. I think it'll be fun

[grave jolt]

You could probably do a lot of non-sugary food sprites with Slurpuff bodies, so long as you keep it recognizable

[storm rose]

You can do a lot of food type fusions as well with grumpig tbh

Unless you are muslim i guess

[grave jolt]

It's neat

they say Magikarp is inedible...

[velvet root]

I mean the second pic is just shaped like one and isnt meat
The first one maybe is some sort of special way to prepare it but it doesnt give much

[twin phoenix]

Pretty sure what Ash is eating there is a taiyaki.

[storm rose]

Kinda like pufferfish which is poisonous unless prepared in a specific way maybe the same goes for magikarp which is why it says it is inedible

[grave jolt]

Still would be good for slurpuff/Magikarp I think then

[hot hamlet]

First was Ash and Brock imagining Karp as a dish before Meowth learned you couldn’t bite through the skin.
Second is just Karp-shaped

[storm rose]

Although it isnt poison type so that cant be the case

[grave jolt]

A lot of fish are just inedible rather than outright poisonous.

[hot hamlet]

Nah, it’s revealed in other episodes Magikarp is just more skin and bone than meat. So may be good for stock, but not the meal itself

[twin phoenix]

Kinda like rl karp.

[hot hamlet]

Also that skin is super durable

Like, Meowth broke a tooth on it

[storm rose]

Makes sense it is durable since it can jump over mountains and be fine

[grave jolt]

base 55 defense magikarp vs base 45 atk Bite from Meowth

[hot hamlet]

Anime proved the games are inaccurate in a prior episode, but that’s a surprising dedication to detail lol

[hot hamlet]

Also don’t forget that Karp was one kick away from evolving. So possibly level 19? For stat accuracy

[grave jolt]

I'll assume level level 20 meowth for simplicity.

Max level 28 though

Lvl 20 Meowth Bite vs. Lvl 19 Magikarp: 16-19 (29.6 - 35.1%) -- 6.5% chance to 3HKO

Using gen 1 calc since the indigo league ended before gen 2 released, and as such it'd be based only on gen 1.

[hot hamlet]

Couldn’t find a clean vid outside this page
https://www.reddit.com/r/RTvideos/comments/15zil8y/magikarp_breaks_meowths_teeth/

[stoic sluice]

So guys when do you think reveal would be?
All those riddles are getting quite annoying.

[hollow creek]

Its GOTTA ve today right?

There's no way this would go on another 2 days

[velvet root]

i hope so

[hollow creek]

I think the intended plan was reveals every sunday, but since the gitlab stuff that was postponed so this is gonna get the reveal train back on track by the reveal being TODAY

Im feeling gourgiest

[full bison]

All the photos and their descriptions have me convinced it's Victini

pale orange, likes helping, very flighty, and the kid never saw it before

[tender plank]

i'd love it if victini was dex slot 500, that'd be SO rad

[hollow creek]

True but i doubt a mythical would be added in these 13 or so slots

[full bison]

why not

[hollow creek]

Just cuz

[full bison]

it's a big event

500k followers is a big milestone

[hollow creek]

Ye, thats what all these new pokemon are for

[full bison]

500k followers, 500 entries, Gen 5, V is the roman numeral for 5, everything works out for Victini getting added

[tender plank]

I'm totally down for Victini

[silk narwhal]

Yeah honestly I'm neutral

I got all i REALLY wanted

There are still a couple I'd like but I'm satisfied

So whatever they add is fine

[molten latch]

Maybe

Atleast its not Marshadow

Because of the old incident

[full bison]

the big thing that trips me up in regards to the hints is the forest photo describing it as "pale orange," but also "it could be a Shiny"

[tender plank]

Key word, could

That could've been added there to make us overthink

[hollow creek]

Same

[velvet root]

ngl there is only 1 thing I REALLY want rn

[full bison]

looking at all the non-shiny Pokemon with orange parts we have left, it's: Croagunk, Beeheeyem, Dedenne, Camerupt, Victini, Kartana, Torkoal, Flabebe, Scrafty, Corphish, Buizel, Dwebble, Pumpkaboo, Solrock, Mothim, Combee, maybe Toucannon, and maybe Darumaka

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-chill-cool-gif-13024487

[velvet root]

your thought progress can have 1 tiny problem

[hollow creek]

I feel like based on how the riddles are themed around something spooky going on, gourgiest is THE spooky pokemon, well spookiest of the ones to be added

[velvet root]

If it is a Shiny in the PIF universe than its not the normal shiny colors

[hollow creek]

Orange or pale when
Shiny or normal
Theres a decent few pokemon that applies to

and thats the only real clue we've gotten

[velvet root]

I dont expect any real shiny colors cuz thats confusing in the long run

[hollow creek]

I think they meant shiny as in their canonical shiny colors not in IF

[full bison]

We have basically no way of seeing a Pokemon's IF shiny colors until they're added

[velvet root]

Hm im not sure about that
It could be done like that to confuse everyone here

[hollow creek]

True

[full bison]

so I feel like that would be irrelevant

[velvet root]

Yes and no
Colors have a pattern in PIF cuz they are autogenerated
For example darker brown colors become purple

And If I remember correctly pale mons dont change much in shiny
So the Pokemon is likely already pale in its base form

[full bison]

still an exceptionally tedious process that I doubt they'd be sadistic enough to subject us to.

[velvet root]

I can see them do that
We had worse events

But tbh idc
Its kinda fun to see you all run in circles and not get any further on the mystery

[grave jolt]

iirc isn't it just Hue +100? I've done a couple recolors to make shinies the color I wanted.

[proud lion]

Hoping for a new reveal today

[prime dust]

the repo thing hasn't been fixed

so until that is fully sorted, don't expect a reveal

[proud lion]

I thought Frogman had a temp solution

[hollow creek]

I think what happened is when frog was told that the gitlab situation would require finding a new repo, that was going to take a while so the reveals are going to happen anyways

Oh

[silent acorn]

Well today is Sunday

So its a good

Day

[hot hamlet]

Still needs setup time

[silent acorn]

After all the nightmare riddles

[hollow creek]

Hopefully this next riddle leads to the new Mon

[hollow creek]

I doubt they would do this riddle thing if they weren’t going to do a reveal within the next 3 days at absolute most

[storm rose]

I know it is grumpig

[full bison]

I'm 90% convinced it's Victini

[rustic mist]

how would you even get victini

[full bison]

9% on Pumpkaboo, 1% pure UB copage

[full bison]

Pale orange, flighty, likes helping, the kid never saw it before

[tender plank]

the question is not how you get victini, but how victini gets you

[rustic mist]

u make it sound like its an giant monster when its litrally like 1 feet

[full bison]

if you mean in terms of events, maybe a contest or after beating E4

[molten latch]

Are you sure its Victini?

[tender plank]

victini is coming.

[rustic mist]

im so dying

[full bison]

Victini and Pumkaboo are the most likely going off the hints. Maybe Kartana if you stretch the hints to breaking point

victini also just makes sense to add for a big milestone event, especially one this associated with the number 5

500k followers, 500 Pokemon slots being used...

[zenith quarry]

victini just feels random to me because its not that popular compared to a lot of the other potential pokemon

its a good design i just dont see it talked about much

[twin phoenix]

Where's that Skitty person at? Someone requested gummy bears.

As I read requests, I imagined a Moltres/Kartana as the iconic crane form but on fire.

[molten latch]

Idk

[inland jewel]

i hope its not victini

[storm rose]

I hope it is grumpig

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/victini-gif-22189996

[inland jewel]

literally any regular mons over mythicals or legendaries

I want to be able to use the mon in a playthrough instead of some prize near end game

[proud lion]

Victini Ticket in BW:

[inland jewel]

but would that be the case in this game?

Frog doesn't like mythicals and legendaries to be accessible early

most of the time they get regulated to post-game

so while sure you can use them in Johto. For people who ONLY do Kanto won't get to experience it

[storm rose]

Yeah and grumpig is better anyway

[twin phoenix]

I love legends more than anything, but I'll take whatever it turns out to be. ||It has to be Gothitelle. ||

[storm rose]

I think most of the coolest legends we already have

[glass patio]

tao trio ik we alr have them

[inland jewel]

we could use Solgaleo and Lunala

at least to complete Necrozma

[twin phoenix]

Victini, Swords of Justice, and UBs would be so cool.

My gen 5 loving heart is aching!

[silent acorn]

Bright minds think alike

[glass patio]

swords of justice

[silent acorn]

Me when someone says Grumpig

[twin phoenix]

And.. Xerneas and Yveltal too! I rank them above all gen 7 legends.

[glass patio]

i had cobalion in my e4 of black 2

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/quagsire-pokemon-wooper-huh-huhh-gif-10333941026352545707

Legit me everytime Grumpig

Seriously tho

Grumpig

I see not much there

I mean it is... A pig?

But honestly even emboar reads more Boar

[hasty arch]

also flamigo

and the dolphin pre-evolution

i think a 10 year old can do a more creative design for these 2

[silent acorn]

Well atleast flamigo is a one off Flamingo thingy

And Palafin is atleast different on the second form

Not gonna lie I find thr Palafin hero form to be... Pretty childish design

[hasty arch]

i think gen 1 has a darker tone in general as a game

[silent acorn]

Which makes sense

Modern pokemon keeps thinking only kids buy and enjoy the games

[hasty arch]

yes, because in terms of business

you can go and appeal for the children as an audience

and thats the source of profit

[silent acorn]

Even though they have become 10% to 20 of the market

Seriously

Its not kids that played them that much

[deft obsidian]

Sword of justice

[silent acorn]

They just kinda are there

[silent acorn]

I like virizion

Cobalion is... Ok

Terrakion is... Er

Keldeo is... GOD NO

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-disappointed-disgusting-disgusted-looking-gif-6561690286467128067

[deft obsidian]

I don't like keldo but I like others

[hasty arch]

LMAO

bro i like terrakion

i am a bulk pokemon enjoyer

[deft obsidian]

goatrys ?

[silent acorn]

I am mixed on it mostly because face

[hasty arch]

same

[silent acorn]

Keldeo tho

No

[hasty arch]

it looks a bnit uncanny

[silent acorn]

Never

[silent acorn]

Thats why

[hasty arch]

yeah

[silent acorn]

It wasnt a good choice for something bull looking

[hasty arch]

like a human face almost

[silent acorn]

Cobalion still has enough snout

[hasty arch]

what gen are they?

8?

[silent acorn]

I am he who is GOAT

[hasty arch]

7?

[silent acorn]

I am he proclaims taste

[deft obsidian]

I wonder if frogman want to add sword of justice he will skip keldo like scarlet and violet?

[silent acorn]

I am he who states the opinions

I am he who knows what he dislikes

[hasty arch]

i hope we can vote on it

[deft obsidian]

Vote on what? Next legendaries?

[hasty arch]

on skipping keldo

🤭

[silent acorn]

I hope he does

Man keldeo is...

Have you ever seen a more childish pokemon? I sure have not

[hasty arch]

i think

theres one purpose for keldeo in pokemon fusions

to give him a proper badass body

[silent acorn]

Er...

Its the head that sucks

And the body

[deft obsidian]

Isn't keldo horse?

[silent acorn]

And everything about it

[hasty arch]

imagine that on the tauros body

[silent acorn]

Its a pony thing

[silent acorn]

Pony nose?

[hasty arch]

imagine keldeo

[silent acorn]

Hair is fine

No

I will not

[hasty arch]

but he has the body shape of a tauros

[silent acorn]

Thats a mental self harm

[hasty arch]

i can prove it to you that I can make that look badass as a fusion

[silent acorn]

Feel free to...

[hot hamlet]

Off take but if you were to make a bootleg Keldeo, what mons would you do?
I see a strong basis for Hisuian Zoroark head (hair), Mudbray body (shape fits more than Ponyta)

[hasty arch]

i would but its not worth it, i got better fusions to make

[deft obsidian]

I always thought
Version is deer
Cobalion is goat
Terrkion in cow
And Keldo is hors

[hot hamlet]

Maybe Primarina head for the hair and water type

[hasty arch]

nidoking

[velvet root]

Since when is Cobalion a goat,mmm

[hasty arch]

terrkion is a goat

and a cow

terrkion is a mountain goat i think

[outer matrix]

terrkion cow

[full bison]

Welp, it's around the time the riddles have been dropping, time to wait and see whether or not we'll be getting the reveal or even more riddles

[velvet root]

Non of them are Goats qwq

[outer matrix]

I guess more riddles until October

[silent acorn]

I dont think cobalion is a Goat, i think its a gazelle or something weird

[velvet root]

I think all of them were Antelopes and shit

[silent acorn]

Maybe Terrakion is a Bison?

[full bison]

According to Bulbapedia, all the Swords are based on ungulates, and Cobalion is likely a goat

[silent acorn]

Or a weird ahhh cow

[full bison]

specifically a Markhor

[velvet root]

Weird thing if Gogoat is always called the only Goat in the games

[silent acorn]

That doesn't look like a goat wtf?

Wait wtf?

[velvet root]

Hes def not a Markhor

[silent acorn]

Wait

It... It does

[silent acorn]

What in the actual fu

[velvet root]

Nah

Now put a antelope next to him

I can see a Nyala or Kudu

If I remember them right

[silent acorn]

this is more like Virizion

yeah... its body is too thin

[full bison]

the fur tuft on Cobalion definitely makes me think goat more than antelope

[velvet root]

A Nyala is a antelope too

[hasty arch]

na bro

[velvet root]

Good that there are fluffyer antelopes too

[hasty arch]

hes on a mountain

hes the goat

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/gopher-cute-looking-animal-gif-15512218

Cool Goat

Cuz hes on a Mountain

[hasty arch]

i... dont know

but its closer than the blue one imo

[velvet root]

I wouldnt put the Habitat of a Pokemon into what it is

[hasty arch]

omh

[full bison]

Terrakion is more of an ox than a goat

[hasty arch]

but he has the twisted horns

[velvet root]

Garchomp
Hippowdon
Krookodile

[hasty arch]

the blue one

[deft obsidian]

I know :[ coblion neck is longer than goat

[hasty arch]

yeah, i guess it is an ox

[velvet root]

Antelopes can have ttwisted ones too
Sheep too

[twin phoenix]

Bruh I was looking up ibex gifs and found Gogoat in one of them.

[hasty arch]

ohh yeah thats true

[velvet root]

I kinda see african wildlife in the 3 musketiers

[hasty arch]

yea

that does make sense

[vague fog]

I wonder when we will get the next announcement

[storm rose]

Bufalo

[storm rose]

Nyala

[storm rose]

Uhm idk i forgot

[velvet root]

Idk if that is the english name too but Gerenuk

[storm rose]

Oh i see

Yeah never been to east africa only been to south africa namibia botswana zimbabwe eswatini gambia and senegal

[hollow creek]

We’re in prime reveal time

[storm rose]

In the african continent

[prime dust]

likely if we have a vote like that, it'd be more akin to the first vote we had for new mons; having just legendaries would mean getting maybe a small group of them and nothing else

[prime dust]

after the repo situation gets fully sorted

[storm rose]

I vote for grumpig

[fathom ridge]

Probably today, but I’m not sure

[vague fog]

Ah ok

[full bison]

Now feels like a good time to repost this

[stoic sluice]

I hope now :(

[prime dust]

#announcements message

nope

until the repo stuff is fully sorted

[stoic sluice]

I'm getting sleepy
It's too late for me

[outer matrix]

delayed reveal

[proud lion]

Maybe at 4PM?

[stoic sluice]

How many hours from now?

[velvet root]

Normaly they reveal stuff in 2 hours from now

[proud lion]

Like Guzma gang and the starters

[velvet root]

Exactly

[outer matrix]

My final guess is gourgeist

a ghost type reveal is perfect sine it's close to October

[velvet root]

A Grass type Goat reveal could be cool cuz its kinda close to my bday

[full bison]

We have so many slots open that it makes more sense to me to reveal Gourgiest on actual October instead of close to October

Victini is my final answer, with that one part of my brain still trying to convince me it's Poipole or Kartana

[elfin forge]

My final guess is Archen

[full bison]

Melon 🍈

[sinful smelt]

vivillion let's goooooooo

[green thicket]

It’s pumpkaboo

[full bison]

Poppy flesh with charcoal spots
Or orange flesh with green-stripe rim
The options for this kind are lots
Green within with craggy trim
One thing agreed:
Such girth can feed
Just like above, the world is varied
Compete in many, or just one if harried

🍈

[humble crystal]

Yeah melon

Watermelon, then cantaloupe, then honeydew

[outer matrix]

Oh it's definitely a October reveal

[odd hamlet]

Gourgeist confirmed with Gourgeist rush?

[white meadow]

It's punkabo I told ya yesterday

[full bison]

Either something round or something that learns Fling. So I feel like the situation's still either Pumpkaboo or Victini

[outer matrix]

Luckily I've made a gourgeist custom palette, so it'll appear in spritework when it gets revealed

[sinful smelt]

where are these pins?

[hollow creek]

Ok we’re not getting the reveal until the 1st of October

[stoic sluice]

Monkeys can learn fling

[full bison]

#1149373303669145751

Neither Kartana nor Poipole can learn fling, so it seems my UB cope is finally dead

...but Poipole's head is pretty round...

[stoic sluice]

Pumpkaboo line can't learn fling...

[full bison]

Pumpkaboo is round tho

[stoic sluice]

Not by level and tms

[velvet root]

Why

[twin phoenix]

I'm hoping it's multiple mons.

[full bison]

The riddle this time basically cannot refer to any specific pokemon line. It's melon, that's undeniable 🍈

[dusty arrow]

hello chat

[west sonnet]

What if it wants us to identify a melon-shaped berry

[full bison]

Watmel berry?

[dusty arrow]

i mean, all of the fruits in pokemon are replaced by berries im p sure

[trail hull]

unrelated but this anime had this gem of a form

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/passimian-alola-pokemon-sun-moon-gif-7435967

[dusty arrow]

hisuian electrode if it was good

[full bison]

it actually could be Passimian

[trail hull]

lol

[dusty arrow]

passimian has a coconut not watermelon

[full bison]

not neccessarily

it uses hard berries

[velvet root]

I thought of diffrent fruit and rememberd its a fun mon

[dusty arrow]

also the last riddle hints at passimian more

[hot hamlet]

MAKE IT AN ALT!!!

[velvet root]

wait didnt one hint talk about coconuts

the exeggutor one

[dusty arrow]

previous hint thing

[full bison]

Here we were convinced it was Victini or Pumpkaboo, now here comes Passimian with a steel chair

[hot hamlet]

The fruits are just keywords for the pics that Pory is adding to old messages

[velvet root]

What if it talks about Passimian and Oranguru
Cuz Oranguru was a cook in the anime

[hot hamlet]

I’m like, 90% close to just taking all our hints and throwing them into another server I’m part of that’s dedicated to Gravity Falls-type puzzles

[full bison]

I'll be perfectly blunt here

I'll be super let down if it's passimian

there's few pokemon I've paid less attention to than Passimian

[dusty arrow]

honestly i wouldnt mind oranguru or passimian

they are p cool

[velvet root]

It probably is both if it is one

[dusty arrow]

its both iirc

[velvet root]

I mean what hint wouldnt fit to one of them

[full bison]

I'm not gonna be mad if they're added, I'd just be disappointed. they're the definition of "just there" IMO

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-cry-about-it-meme-gif-20184012

[full bison]

It's not like Watchog where I despise it with every fiber of my being

[dusty arrow]

for me, the three i hate are: already in the game, or after gen 7

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/jejejeje-gif-25591399

i can wait more

[full bison]

Passimian's shiny features pale orange ISTG

[velvet root]

If they only saw the ball it could make sense

or well fruit

[full bison]

I never considered it being Passimian until now because that'd require remembering it exists but it all lines up way too well

[twin phoenix]

Hmm.. It's the only mon with Receiver.

[dusty arrow]

what did receiver do again?

get the stat boosts of a dead mon?

[twin phoenix]

It copies the ability of an ally that just fainted?

[full bison]

yup

[twin phoenix]

Idk if it's a double battle only thing or what.

[outer matrix]

Is passimian found in a cave?

[twin phoenix]

They live in jungles.

[dusty arrow]

azumarill/diggersby faints and you switch in a scarfed passimian

huge power monkey

[proud lion]

So no reveal today: only teaser

[full bison]

It's a Doubles only ability. the ally has to faint while Simian is on the field

So it's super predictable

[glass patio]

oh damn

[velvet root]

I can see Oranguru and Passimian sleep in caves too

Gigantopithecus probably slept in caves and it was a GIANT Orangutan

[full bison]

So at this point, it's either Victini or Passimian, maybe with a slight chance of Pumpkaboo if it's the roundness we should be paying attention to

[outer matrix]

Football/soccer player monkey for IF?

[dusty arrow]

i want a pokemon that takes the ability in singles

it would be so funny

[dusty arrow]

i mean, we had those hockey fusions when glalie was added

[velvet root]

Def not soccer

[radiant helm]

where's the teaser? can someone link

[dusty arrow]

#event-announcements

[fathom ridge]

pinned mesage in #event-general

[radiant helm]

huh i dunno why but i dont see these tyvm

[full bison]

Football/Rugby would be more accurate

[radiant helm]

oh they are just way lower than i thought lol

[full bison]

I just find it amazing that there were so many hints towards Passimian up till now that all add up, but nobody put it forward as an answer until recently because it's not that memorable

all the fruit hints work for it too

[velvet root]

We found out what it is
#event-general message

[velvet root]

I mean not my fault noone ever listens to me

[silent acorn]

You betcha is a gaslight

[fathom ridge]

I think barbanacle has a chance lol

[fleet quail]

Could it be Burmy?

I know that's a stretch but the newest riddle shows some connections

(kinda)

[fathom ridge]

Idk it doesn’t look like it can throw things

[hot hamlet]

Riddles aren’t part of the clues

They give you the keyword to search for

[fleet quail]

ah ok

[hot hamlet]

So this one was Melon

[fleet quail]

now that makes sense, I was minutely picking apart each hint

[hot hamlet]

Which gives us this

[fleet quail]

gotcha

[full bison]

Maybe we should start using the search function to look up various different fruits

[fleet quail]

I'm looking at each one now to try and figure this out since I love these little riddles

[stoic canopy]

The messages are edited they won’t pop up until he edit them

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-oranguru-thinking-hmm-gif-16023282486153951105

i think it both monkeys from alola

[twin phoenix]

I cannot help but cope for the riddles pointing to one mon and the photos to another.

[hot hamlet]

Then explain the connection between a cherry, orange, strawberry, coconut, and melon?

[twin phoenix]

They're fruit?

[hot hamlet]

Besides pac man

[full bison]

the melon hint, if it referred to anything, would need to refer to a Pokemon with different forms.

But no Pokemon has a from where one has red flesh with black dots, and another form that has green webs and orange flesh

[wide merlin]

i don't understand but what it is story ? they are new leaks for the next pokemon ?

[silent acorn]

I KNOW WHAT IT IS

ITS A POKEMON

[twin phoenix]

Idk, why are the clues so wordy when they could just point to the photos without the extra stuff.

[silent acorn]

[marble meadow]

could be or some tropical mon cuz these fruits are almost only in an tropical region

[silent acorn]

I dunno, i guess someone had a poetry kink or something

Although

[hot hamlet]

Ah. So not a UB

[silent acorn]

Its sus that the last one was related to coconuts and now this one is related to Melon

Why two round fruit?

[hot hamlet]

Because fruit can be a limited amount of shapes?

[silent acorn]

Not really

A banana is weird

[twin phoenix]

Man, I'm picking Tropius. As much as I want Cherrim to be the one.

[silent acorn]

A strawberry

A grapes

A lemons