Big ass flat iceberg oh cool okay
#pif-hoenn-discussion
quaint matrix
gray vine
ye it is
quaint matrix
I do love Bergmite tho
half needle
i like avalugg
gray vine
talking about it tho i dont like Weavile much
quaint matrix
Just Avalugg is blegh
half needle
he's cool
gray vine
kinda meh
half needle
weavile is pretty cool
stoic canopy
Avalugg’s fine
gray vine
Humanoid designs arent much for me, tho i dont have a mon i hate besides Calyrex ugly ass motherfucker
half needle
yeah tbh calyrex looks fucked up
stoic canopy
Weavile is…just kinda ok? Dark ice is a hell of a handicap tho…
quaint matrix
There's that meme of Calyrex and Urshifu of "wow how you're so strong" "i love books my good man" and Calyrex has the most veiny ass forehead and that's the only thing I have any memory of in Calyrex
rain locust
solid meme
gray vine
in what way? i actually love Hisuin's design even more
quaint matrix
solid meme
Oh yeah that's the one
gilded pagoda
in what way? i actually love Hisuin's design even more
I love its design too, I mean viability
Ice rock defensive pokemon
quaint matrix
Like idk if you're gonna make something evocative of "big head is big smart" Calyrex just
Kinda too freaky
stoic canopy
knock + axel stab is really good
Sure…but those need to kill every time, if they don’t then weavile is cooked.
gray vine
ah yeah thought so thats why i asked to make sure
gilded pagoda
Guanateed to just flop
rain locust
Sure…but those need to kill every time, if they don’t then weavile is cooked.
and weavile is v good at doing that
gilded pagoda
Not actual competitive, but I was taking names in cobblemon with banded weavile
quaint matrix
Sure…but those need to kill every time, if they don’t then weavile is cooked.
Inherent risk you have to take to the chin (and luckily Weavile's a speed demon on that)
I'd rather failed Ice-types be failed defensively than failed offensively
half needle
one of my friends had a weavile with a speed reducing nature so they drew it in a wheelchair
quaint matrix
At least if your offensive Ice pokemon gets dunked on straight up cuz its not fast/strong enough its like ehhhhh yeah that's just how the dice rolls
If your defensive Ice pokemon gets dunked on you're just there thinking "yeah idk why I don't just use Water types here"
stoic canopy
Meh, I prefer my Pokemon to take atleast one hit then no hits but I’m willing to concede this point.
marble meadow
quaint matrix
Tbh I don't really do meta stuff but I like talking about it anyway (and singleplayer modes like Battle Factory and what have you do care about this type of number crunchy stuff anyway lol)
gilded pagoda
If your defensive Ice pokemon gets dunked on you're just there thinking "yeah id...
Can confirm, as in that same cobblemon group my defensive queen was a Lapras
(ice gym leader with flying to assist, because why not be even more weak to rock?)
gray vine
https://tenor.com/view/belch-gif-26675594
my boy
marble meadow
I say it cuz it’s fiting blacepholon for January/new year
gray vine
but you didnt even post blacephalon
marble meadow
well I think guzzlord is first
stoic canopy
…that guzzlord…or however you spell it.
quaint matrix
It's kind of a baller name ngl
gray vine
ye the boy
gray vine
uwu
marble meadow
coral axle
Blacephalon my baby
stoic canopy
Him and the one bamboo satellite thing are my favorites.
quaint matrix
Blacephalon is so freaky (I love it)
coral axle
He is a scrungly I adore him
gray vine
my favs are Guzzlord, Xurkitree and Stakataka
quaint matrix
I think all the UBs are straight up bangers tbh
Maybe Kartana is the least cool but that's also mostly because it's literally an origami samurai
Which is a bit too comprehensible compared to
gray vine
ehh dont like the buff moskito or the female cockroach
quaint matrix
Every other UBs
gilded pagoda
Stakataka my beloved
coral axle
I love blacephalon, kartana, stakataka, and poipole’s evolution I can’t think of the name atm
stoic canopy
Ehhhh buzzswol is kinda mid.
gilded pagoda
I love blacephalon, kartana, stakataka, and poipole’s evolution I can’t think of...
naganadel
coral axle
Yes I love that guy
marble meadow
they definitely take time to sprite or make custom ones
quaint matrix
Buzzwole is so stupid it circles back to being amazing for me lol
coral axle
I think xurkitree and guzzlord are cool too
quaint matrix
Yeah big ass fighting bug with swole muscles sure uhhhhhh its name is Buzzwole
coral axle
Stakataka is just a silly
I’m still looking for that wholesome anime clip with him and ash
Where he just opens one of his little doors
marble meadow
delibird xurkitree crismas
coral axle
And his eye peeps out
quaint matrix
I love Pheromosa because it and Salazzle is just GameFreak implicitly admitting "okay yeah maybe we need to design some monsters for the freaks in our audience"
gray vine
I love Pheromosa because it and Salazzle is just GameFreak implicitly admitting ...
i dunno the real freaks like the non humanoids like me
gilded pagoda
It didn't show up when you search "stakataka" just "staka"
coral axle
The way his little eye is just so excited
gilded pagoda
gilded pagoda
"cease"
coral axle
Ik this is a bit of a dark and niche reference but stakataka reminds me of the movie the cube
Like how do he inner mechanisms work
I love that it’s a multi cell life form
rancid nymph
https://tenor.com/view/stakataka-staka-pokemon-draft-competitive-gif-15559810976...
Me when you interrupt me while I’m gaming
coral axle
But I do question what’s inside
velvet root
making my way downtown
He is Town
quaint matrix
i dunno the real freaks like the non humanoids ~~like me~~
Let's not pit two categories of freaks against each other
coral axle
I love all freaks
stoic canopy
The only time I’ve ever payed attention to Pokémon go is when they did the UB event. Those shorts were really damn cool.
coral axle
https://tenor.com/view/stakataka-staka-pokemon-draft-competitive-gif-16639196152...
I swear there’s another moment where ash is directly on top of it and its top eye comes out
Maybe I’m just misremembering
rancid nymph
Let's not pit two categories of freaks against each other
Actually, let’s. That way they’ll kill each other off and we won’t have to deal with them anymore
gilded pagoda
Maybe I’m just misremembering
I've never watched the anime besides maybe 1-2 episodes, so I don't know what else
marble meadow
Opinions about cherim
coral axle
I love Sakura themes
gilded pagoda
you could've told me Staka fell apart like a lego set and I'd believe you
quaint matrix
Tbh I'm so bored with so many animes being schlocky nowadays I ended up defaulting to the old 90s animes/actual children animes
coral axle
And speaking backwards phrases
gilded pagoda
you could've told me Staka fell apart like a lego set and I'd believe you
dry bones noise
quaint matrix
And now I'm deep into 100 episodes of Pokemon Diamond and Pearl...
marble meadow
gray vine
good
marble meadow
how would cherim work in if
stoic canopy
Tbh I'm so bored with so many animes being schlocky nowadays I ended up defaulti...
Tbf you can say that about most shows nowadays…
quaint matrix
Istg I'm actually so close to just watching Shimajiro at this point
quaint matrix
Mentally regress me to enjoy literal child educational animes sure why not...
gilded pagoda
https://tenor.com/view/pok%C3%A9mon-dawn-gif-19646166
gender envy
quaint matrix
Not like I'm mentally stimulated watching a lot of what's hot rn lmao
quaint matrix
I will say its so funny that Cyrus in the anime just straight up is in that universe and like
Welp
He's just there forever I guess
gilded pagoda
He's just there forever I guess
sent to upside down for crimes against Arceus
marble meadow
gray vine
besties with satan
quaint matrix
Like the game has us actually going in and see him being even more of a maniac but then end up saving his ass from his stupid anyway but the anime we just kinda
Let that go lmao
Sure yeah I guess him and Giratina are just pals playing Yugioh games
marble meadow
One word mustache fusions
dusty arrow
hello
gilded pagoda
sure I'll bite
quaint matrix
I also took the time to watch some episodes of Horizons and honestly that anime blew all the oldschool Pokemon anime series out of the water
gilded pagoda
cubekarp
rancid nymph
sent to upside down for crimes against Arceus
I just imagine him sitting there like “man, it sure is taking a while for Dialga and Palkia to make that new universe”
marble meadow
gilded pagoda
I just imagine him sitting there like “man, it sure is taking a while for Dialga...
Giratina looks over at Cyrus
"you got games on your phone?"
marble meadow
Kricetune for mustache fusions
dusty arrow
kricetune
quaint matrix
Hey if we're gonna do facial hair fusions
You know what I'm thinking
Zangoose
(also Seviper because it's a package deal)
quaint matrix
Every pokemon having that scruffy feel Zangoose has is gonna look so al dente
marble meadow
It’s the only one in if so far
rancid nymph
Giratina looks over at Cyrus
"you got games on your phone?"
Cyrus:
“Closest I have is the coin flip app on my Poketch”
stoic canopy
Meanwhile the Chad volo gets him had his 7th Pokémon.
gilded pagoda
Cyrus:
“Closest I have is the coin flip app on my Poketch”
endless eons of heads or tails
dusty arrow
Meanwhile the Chad volo gets him had his 7th Pokémon.
technically 8th lmao
marble meadow
now I can’t stop thinking about zangoose with a moustace
velvet root
I cant decide what Pokemon I want to choose for my fusion
dusty arrow
ice type magikarp
gray vine
I also took the time to watch some episodes of Horizons and honestly that anime ...
lul despite having her as my pfp i never did start Horizon, i still have to watch the finale episode of the goodbye special for ash but cant get myself to
coral axle
I need to watch more pokemon horizons
stoic canopy
From what I heard, horizon is actually quite good.
coral axle
I do enjoy it
I think murdock is his name
I adore him
He reminds me of saguaro aka my favorite character
rancid nymph
I cant decide what Pokemon I want to choose for my fusion
You could always use the best Pokémon
dusty arrow
https://tenor.com/view/not-funny-didnt-laugh-red-bird-gif-24436072
do it
quaint matrix
lul despite having her as my pfp i never did start Horizon, i still have to watc...
You need to
stoic canopy
Always found it weird that mega garados turns dark instead of dragon…
quaint matrix
It's the Pokemon anime
dusty arrow
i wont force you but it would be so funny
dusty arrow
Always found it weird that mega garados turns dark instead of dragon…
in gen 6 he only had bite as a stab move 
quaint matrix
Like original series is iconic but Horizons is like actually something more than just a legacy extension
velvet root
You could always use the best Pokémon
that is?
gray vine
ehhh
marble meadow
I wouldn’t mind kricketune or spheal next
velvet root
Why Kricketune
whole tinsel
Spheal yes !
whole tinsel
velvet root
I go and make
Rock, Fire, Steel and Fighting Type Magikarps
marble meadow
silly moustache fusions
drowsy sequoia
Are there any fusion sprites that are persona refrences?
velvet root
silly moustache fusions
How is that Moustache?
dusty arrow
Are there any fusion sprites that are persona refrences?
only if theres adachi
marble meadow
Is nice
stoic canopy
Are there any fusion sprites that are persona refrences?
I remember seeing Mona as something?
marble meadow
Spheal is cuz round and when rowlet is in if in the future I only use round mons in my next run
Speedruners when naming Pokémon
gray vine
Roundlet
gray vine
Hot take but, I now loved Incineroar
nah its neat, took a bit but since i used it in my game i got to liking it kinda fast, just petting it is a bit awkward
full bison
how would cherim work in if
Same way Ultra Necrozma works, just without the item and tied to the Flower Gift ability, I imagine
gray vine
i had that in legend arceus too
gilded pagoda
they took the owl and put a brick on his head and made him short
molten latch
nah its neat, took a bit but since i used it in my game i got to liking it kinda...
I dont see nothing wrong patting a cat wrestler.
gray vine
i liked that and sumurott, but Typhlosion, not a fan
gilded pagoda
I dont see nothing wrong patting a cat wrestler.
reminds me of the meme, your litten escapes out the door one night, a week later Incineroar busts the door open and demands wet food only
molten latch
I see
gray vine
I dont see nothing wrong patting a cat wrestler.
well every mon in the game had a special spot they really liked being petted....his spot was uhh yeah
molten latch
Right
full bison
You wanna see awkward? Watch Incin use Savage Spin out
gilded pagoda
gilded pagoda
cramped
molten latch
You wanna see awkward? Watch Incin use Savage Spin out
Its a Jojo reference isnt it
Joseph's Hermit Purple
full bison
Its a Jojo reference isnt it
It comes from the belt
All I'll say unless prodded further
whole tinsel
Samurott fan here sorry/not sorry
full bison
Samurott and Serperior are both amazing and I refuse to have them die for Emboring's sins
coral axle
I love samurott very much
molten latch
Samurott fan here sorry/not sorry
Samurott is cool
No wonder why he's hated.
Eryizo even despise the pokemon from its design.
But enough of hate, I'd say Samurott has it better, especially his Hisuian Form.
drowsy sequoia
How do you get older sprite packs?
full bison
Literally the only defenses I've heard for Emboar is Journey To The West reference (which just makes it more redundant because Infernape already referenced that) and it learns Scald, which Emboar fans treat as the coolest thing ever but really IDC
quaint matrix
It is cool but also like
weak trellis
emboar in general is worse infernape rofl
quaint matrix
Kind of an indictment to Emboar that that's like the coolest thing about it (also him being the pig dude from Sun Wukong but yeah)
weak trellis
there's a reason why almost all "fire/fighting" memes are just an excuse to crap on emboar specifically
quaint matrix
Yeah even with Infernape where people dog it every now and then you'd still see people genuinely defending the honor of the Chimchar line
And no way anyone can say they hate Blaziken
But Emboar...
full bison
You think people would be upset if we got another Fire/Fighting starter, or has enough time passed?
quaint matrix
Ehhhhhh I mean
Incineroar is basically GameFreak taking the easy way out of not doing the Fire/Fighting meme
"haha guys see we're not doing that anymore this is Fire/Dark ain't it cool"
weak trellis
nowadays people would probably be like "finally it's not dark or ghost typed again"
(ironically we did get another fire/fighting in gen 9 and nobody noticed it rofl)
quaint matrix
Meanwhile literally everything about it is just about it being a fighting wrestler with lariat moves yeah okay GameFreak you ain't slick buddy
full bison
Gamefreak has been getting samey with starter secondary types as of recent
quaint matrix
(ironically we did get another fire/fighting in gen 9 and nobody noticed it rofl...
I mean thank god tbh we actually can get it again
As not a starter
full bison
LA and ScarVi both gave us Ghost and Fighting Starters
quaint matrix
Gamefreak has been getting samey with starter secondary types as of recent
The issue is also like there's a little too many types in Pokemon that is genuinely a detriment if starters get it for their third evo
weak trellis
and gen 7 gave us ghost and dark
quaint matrix
Like be honest are you gonna be excited that your second typing is Bug
Or Ice
Or Rock even
weak trellis
actually LA and ScarVi bot repeated all 3 starter types
full bison
I'm down for a Bug or Ice starter
weak trellis
Like be honest are you gonna be excited that your second typing is Bug
tbh for bug, "yes if it's on the water starter"
quaint matrix
Of course its Water lmao
gray vine
Like be honest are you gonna be excited that your second typing is Bug
a bug starter sounds cool
quaint matrix
Yeah I guess slap the bad types for Water sure why not
gray vine
bugs are usually neat designed
weak trellis
ice can also work if the speed stat is at least 115 or 120 and rock can be cool if it's on the grass starter
quaint matrix
Conversely some types are probably on GameFreak's kill list to never be a part of the starter
Like I mean no way there's gonna be a starter gaining Normal
Or Dragon
weak trellis
grass/rock, fire/ice, and bug/water would be a cool starter trio rofl
full bison
how about a Fairy starter? We only have one of those, and Fairy is Fire's last type it needs before it's combined with every other type
weak trellis
...ignore how those combos interact with one another, gen 4 sure did with its starters
also electric is another rite-out since that discourages people from using pikachu
quaint matrix
The whole interacting with one another is never gonna hold out lol
At a certain point you're gonna just need to slap it a type and just let go and let force
My ideal I'm looking at is like
Grass/Steel, Fire/Fairy, Water/Electric
weak trellis
I can see that kinda?
marble meadow
poison fairy would be neat for a new Pokémon
weak trellis
Fezenipity would like to know your location (it can fly)
quaint matrix
Poison/Steel being a thing is very cool I'm glad it exists but also
The pokemon just looks very
Not
marble meadow
Oh I forgot anyway wich dual types are not used yet
quaint matrix
I'd rather it be some techno/bio hybrid like Cyclizar tho
weak trellis
but then again they did do the obvious pepper bit for fire/grass
quaint matrix
Ugly ass car
weak trellis
https://tenor.com/view/revavroom-gif-27416479
jerky gif rofl
gray vine
Revaroom was dissapoointing to me
quaint matrix
At least its not Cybertruck
velvet root
Its funny for me
gray vine
was so hyped for it when we only saw the engine look....why did it need a stone body it just didnt fit with the top part
weak trellis
I wish I had the gif of gen 9 where I turn around after defeating a minior and there's like 10+ of em in a single hallway
gray vine
give it a steel body
weak trellis
yea I don't mind car
marble meadow
fairy dragon
quaint matrix
Finally
stoic canopy
Honestly I just wanted team star’s car thing to be the Pokémon. Maybe just smaller.
quaint matrix
Dragon not weak to Dragon
(I know Dragon/Steel exists already but it's funnier with Fairy/Dragon)
stoic canopy
No dragon is only type that’s weak to its self.
quaint matrix
I mean
weak trellis
ghost
marble meadow
guess I wait for if News and za news
stoic canopy
Well ok one of two.
quaint matrix
Giratina having the dubious honor of being a Pokemon that is weak to both of its typing
Sidenote I need to catch a Giratina at some point fr fr
marble meadow
will it be a decent trailer or starter reveal for za
quaint matrix
I got a Slaking ready to be the Death Gorilla Pokemon together with it
ivory rune
regigigas is also good for a giritina fusion
gray vine
Honestly I just wanted team star’s car thing to be the Pokémon. Maybe just small...
i remember when the star car was the only thing we had goiung for it so people assumed, that it would be only an Engine Pokemon that could make cars goo, really liked this design
i dunno why its spoilered
marble meadow
normal ghost is a good type combo and u can trick people with hisui zoroark
quaint matrix
regigigas is also good for a giritina fusion
Yeah but death god gorilla is cooler than death god brailles for face equivalent monster thing
ivory rune
this is true
weak trellis
last time I used giratina it was uuh
...oh that got a sprite since I finished that run dang
wish I had that since I was using gira/voltorb as a substitute rofl
ivory rune
damn thats a very cool magnemite
weak trellis
yea it did well in the run
weak trellis
I forget if magneton had a custom but it also went over my 560 BST rule so lol
quaint matrix
So like
How does Stance Change work if you're fusing it with a Pokemon
Does it also just straight swap around the stats by some calculations or does it just not work
weak trellis
attack and defenses are swapped yea
quaint matrix
Oh huh that simple
I thought it'd do more calcs than that lmao
Hmmm kinda wish the InfiDex would take that stat swap into consideration for the BST comparisons but its what it is
full bison
Aegislash/Toxapex is funny cause of the defense swap interaction
weak trellis
yea it's kinda like how huge power affects stats
full bison
it's very slightly physically stronger with a debatably better type combo
gray vine
Hmmm kinda wish the InfiDex would take that stat swap into consideration for the...
it just changes the stats around, it doesnt add or reduce anything, the bst would stay the same
marble meadow
Huge power slaking fusion go brr
quaint matrix
it just changes the stats around, it doesnt add or reduce anything, the bst woul...
Oh like just straight up from the fusion itself and not redoing the calcs based on if the fusion is fused then the ATK is what it would be?
full bison
Huge Power Thick Club Azumarill/Marowak go Brrrr
quaint matrix
Yeah no that makes sense idk why I overcomplicate it always in my head
quaint matrix
Huge Power Thick Club Azumarill/Marowak go Brrrr
I'm more partial to Azumarill/Flareon myself
gray vine
Oh like just straight up from the fusion itself and not redoing the calcs based ...
it just does what the abbility does, switch the 2 numbers
quaint matrix
Used it for my second #hall-of-fame and all 
velvet root
https://tenor.com/view/weavile-pokken-hello-hi-ready-gif-24806333
Head or body?
quaint matrix
I'm finishing my second #playthrough-talk as soon as I caught all the Legendaries lol
rancid nymph
Head or body?
Up to you
velvet root
You want that Weasel
marble meadow
stoic canopy
https://tenor.com/view/croagunk-pokken-tournament-pokken-fighting-game-lock-in-g...
The hell is that from?
velvet root
Did Pokken ever get updates with new mons?
quaint matrix
Nah if only
stoic canopy
Oh that’s pokken?
rancid nymph
I want a pokken2
You mean pokken 3?
full bison
That's what the Close Combat fangame is for
stoic canopy
Honestly game freak needs to start marking more spin-offs and stop patent trolling there competition.
velvet root
We absolutly need a new Pokken
Bringing back all mons it already had and adding new ones
Scolipede could be really fun with it rolling around
inland jewel
Considering Pokken didn't make them as much money as they hoped, its probably a dead game
velvet root
What are weird Mons you would add to Pokken (or mons that absolutly miss)
inland jewel
Grapploc
velvet root
Cool idea
marble meadow
Yeah and a joke carackter like croagunk
velvet root
Grovyle and Wigglytuff could be fun for the mystery dungeon fans
stoic canopy
Pheromosa would make for a neat rush down type of character.
Fast as hell but low hp.
pale parcel
I want the Kalos Starters Line too mane. We already have Gen 1-5 Starters right?
full bison
I'd motly just like to see more done with UBs in general
velvet root
Cofagrigus would be fun too
Maybe adding a bird?
full bison
they add something that no other Pokemon does
inland jewel
I want the Kalos Starters Line too mane. We already have Gen 1-5 Starters right?
they're already confirmed though, we just gotta wait for november
full bison
I want the Kalos Starters Line too mane. We already have Gen 1-5 Starters right?
Gen 5 got skipped
velvet root
I want the Kalos Starters Line too mane. We already have Gen 1-5 Starters right?
We got good news for you
marble meadow
or longer
fallen loom
331 Pokémon are not in the game or confirmed yet
pale parcel
We got good news for you
YAY!
fallen loom
no Gen 5 starters, yes to gen 6
pale parcel
Gen 5 got skipped
DANG IT! I LOVE SAMURROT!
pale parcel
Gen 5 keeps getting sidelined
Fr it's up there with Gen 7 for me
velvet root
Is that the up to date screen for all the Pokken fighters?
stoic canopy
Unfortunately he was in the same gen as pig and smug snake.
marble meadow
more love for unova kalos and alola
full bison
Smug snake is near peak and I won't hear otherwise
fallen loom
Unfortunately he was in the same gen as pig and smug snake.
snake gets Contrary
pale parcel
Aight, time to learn more about pixel art because I'm gonna make Ash-Greninja as a Greninja + Greninja fusion. They keep their names after fusion right?
stoic canopy
Yes
marble meadow
the sword of justice should have a triple fusion alt based of the scarlet book sketch
fallen loom
what about Keldeo?
velvet root
Is that the up to date screen for all the Pokken fighters?
Talking about Snakes
Arbok, Seviper or Serperior would be fun
stoic canopy
Aight, time to learn more about pixel art because I'm gonna make Ash-Greninja as...
Also I imagine like you and 50000 other people are going to be doing that
pale parcel
Yes
If the same two Pokémon fuse they keep their name, right? Not talking about nicknames which I know for sure.
full bison
Pretty sure Frog said Keldeo would be left out
But here's the real question
Would the Tapus get Triple fusions?
stoic canopy
Yes they do keep their names
fallen loom
If the same two Pokémon fuse they keep their name, right? Not talking about nick...
yes
fallen loom
But here's the real question
Tapus would get that one Z-Move as a 5th member IG
pale parcel
Also I imagine like you and 50000 other people are going to be doing that
I just love Ash-Greninja bruh. Still do til this day. I still hate the fact that I wasn't gifted an Ash-Greninja EX box years ago.
full bison
Genie triple fusion, it comes out looking the exact same LMAO
fallen loom
KAMEHAMEHURRICANE!
pale parcel
I love this forg
fallen loom
Genie triple fusion, it comes out looking the exact same LMAO
not for animal forms
fallen loom
what if there were a new Type immune to Bug?
fallen loom
i think the other forms will be just alts
they have different stat distribution though
full bison
Bug's suffered enough, man
inland jewel
Bug suffers enough
fallen loom
Bug should be SE against Fairy
gilded pagoda
what if there were a new Type immune to Bug?
pale parcel
Wait a minute
ember bear
what if bug was immune to fairy instead 🔥
pale parcel
Has anyone ever done a Machamp + Hitmontop fusion as Tusk Act 4?
fallen loom
Fairy needs more weaknesses or just re-worked to:
Weak to: Poison, Steel, Bug
Strong against: Fighting, Dragon and Dark
Resists: Fighting and Dark
Gets resisted by: Fire, Poison, Psychic, Bug and Steel
Immune to: Dragon
silent acorn
That thing everyone wanted
stoic canopy
Seedot?
silent acorn
Fairy needs more weaknesses or just re-worked to:
Weak to: Poison, Steel, Bug
St...
I disagree on bug doesn't make sense
ember bear
Fairy needs more weaknesses or just re-worked to:
Weak to: Poison, Steel, Bug
St...
dragon?
silent acorn
They kinda just coexist
fallen loom
I disagree on bug doesn't make sense
needs a buff
marble meadow
silent acorn
needs a buff
Neh, not the right way to do it
ember bear
being strong against dragon was like the whole point
silent acorn
I feel like
Bug should do something to fighting
Fighting is nice offensively, but could use another weakness besides flying and psychic
full bison
Fairy
silent acorn
For Fairy I think it should die to be weak in general to fire
Oh yeah there is fairy
fallen loom
everything with 2 weaknesses or Electric should get one more
silent acorn
I just dunno
inland jewel
bug should resist fighting
silent acorn
I dont think bugs doing stuff to fairies makes that much sense from lore and everything
Maybe grass
quaint matrix
Unfortunately he was in the same gen as pig and smug snake.
Now I don't want to hear anyone side-eyeing the smug snake
stoic canopy
Considering that a wide majority of bugs can do a psychic or a flying move I don’t think that will make much of a impact
silent acorn
Since fairy is connected to nature they could do with a weakness to grass
Plus grass needs some buff too
quaint matrix
Smug royal serpent and four-legged samurai ram otter is one of the best starter decisions for Unova
It is unfortunately saddled with dumb joke forced meme pig man but it is what it is
inland jewel
I like all of the unova startersr
fallen loom
Water changed to be weak to: Electric, Grass and Poison
Electric changed to be weak to: Ground and Ice
Fairy changed to be weak to: Steel, Poison and Bug
Fighting changed to be weak to: Flying, Psychic and Bug
inland jewel
Emboar just unfortunately is the 3rd Fighting/Fire in a row
inland jewel
idk, I hate Pignite but I love Emboar
quaint matrix
Water changed to be weak to: Electric, Grass and Poison
Electric changed to be w...
I've brought this up yesterday of my theoretical type change sheet and I know no one's asking/thinking it
But I do hate Water (type) so my changes was definitely super bad for it
gray vine
But then Emboar ruins it
how rude
quaint matrix
Lemme see if I can find it
unreal torrent
Whats the chances Buizel and Floatzel make it in?
quaint matrix
Water
Offensive
1/2x: Dragon, Grass, Poison, Steel, Water
2x: Fire, Ground, Rock
Defensive
1/2x: Fire, Water, Ground
2x: Electric, Grass, Poison, Ice
can't say
quaint matrix
There it is
inland jewel
since he neither showed up in Top 5 or Bottom 5
fallen loom
Whats the chances Buizel and Floatzel make it in?
kind of ordinary, so they're not great at fusion potential
unreal torrent
I mean fair
inland jewel
well, with their floaties, you could say they could be used for a certain type of fusions
quaint matrix
It literally kinda stops at 'water weasel'
You could kinda just do that with Sneasel/Weavile Water fusions
inland jewel
but then we have to rule ??? that
I mean, they have some potenital
it'd be like granbull potential, where the details you give fusions would be floaties and such
fallen loom
Floatzel has that inflatable water raft thing and I guess two tails
inland jewel
yee, you can do stuff with that
not much but at least its something
as opposed to something like Alomomola
its.... just a fish
fallen loom
it has more going for it than Linoone (though Zigzagoon is better)
quaint matrix
I would hope Alomomola doesn't get added (not yet anyway)
It's just horizontal fat Stunfisk
And we already got Stunfisk
fallen loom
as opposed to something like Alomomola
Luvdisc is so much worse, since it's just a heart with no features
inland jewel
While Alomomola is pretty bad in the sprite department. Its stats and abilities are pretty good
inland jewel
Luvdisc is so much worse, since it's just a heart with no features
people do argue that while Luvdisc is nothing, you can still do Valentine's themeing with it
quaint matrix
Oh I mean yeah Alomomola is good for actual gameplay material
But for spriting potential its like....
I mean
inland jewel
with Alomomola, the only thing going for it is. BIG Fish, which we got Wailord for that. And its lore is just it being super friendly
fallen loom
the fins look like hands, so maybe it could become... handy
quaint matrix
Best you can do with it is turning all the other pokemon into horizontal fat bunch of pokemons
inland jewel
and protective
Like, i'm a big advocator for Alomomola, one of my favorite Gen 5 pokemon, but my spriter side just... dies looking at it
fallen loom
I mean... this is what Alomomola is based on
snow prairie
If you would please consider:
fallen loom
I like Heatran, but not gonna happen
quaint matrix
I mean Houndoom's already here
Heatran tho...
I feel like we'd see the Numel line and Heatmor/Durant first before Heatran lol
fallen loom
it has no lower jaw so the head fusions will just attach the upper head to the torso with no neck or jaw or something
fallen loom
I feel like we'd see the Numel line and Heatmor/Durant first before Heatran lol
Numel, Torkoal, Turtanator yes, but I'm not sure about Heatmor
stoic canopy
If you would please consider:
I feel like heatran is an unnecessary part of that fusion
quaint matrix
Numel, Torkoal, Turtanator yes, but I'm not sure about Heatmor
But that's the point
velvet root
If you would please consider:
Heatran would be such a awesome Toad/Frog for the game
quaint matrix
There's more creative aesthetics with Heatmor/Durant than just
Big hot steel lava monster
Because it already is itself a big hot steel lava monster
fallen loom
I guess, but it's a legendary so it's more likely to make it in IMO
snow prairie
Phyrexians are like actually a sick aesthetic and i believe more people should know of them
quaint matrix
I mean we're still missing so much Legendaries/Mythicals (even without Gen 8 and 9 in the equation)
Heatrat feels like a dead-last addition for sure
fallen loom
Phyrexians are like actually a sick aesthetic and i believe more people should k...
except you could fuse Lycanroc with Houndoom instead
snow prairie
Kinda tough to justify the "body of metal" part without having one of the pokemon be a steel type
fallen loom
it's a Steel Type Magcargo
quaint matrix
I wanna standardize the argument too tbh cuz like
Heatran is big hot steel lava monster
And if you change more than one word in that descriptor it's not really Heatran anymore is it
Imo it'd just be (Pokemon) in Heatran form
fallen loom
so head fusions would be the best bet?
weak trellis
which doesn't stop most of Mr Mime's spriters rofl
fallen loom
head fusions have limbs at least
quaint matrix
which doesn't stop most of Mr Mime's spriters rofl
I mean Mr. Mime has the advantage of having like
Opposable limbs
And first-glance aesthetics
Even if a fusion radically changes it to the point of it not being decidedly Mr. Mime anymore it still feels like Mr. Mime but that's just me lol
fallen loom
it can walk on walls
silent acorn
its.... just a fish
I won't take that slander at all
silent acorn
It's just horizontal fat Stunfisk
Vertical
It's a sunfish
And I actually love how the fins look like angel wings unlike most of the fishy mons
silent acorn
as far as fish shape Alomola is up there to me along Sharpedo
velvet root
Sadly it is forgotten
silent acorn
Sadly it is forgotten
I mean... Gamefreak forgot about it
velvet root
True
silent acorn
Literally rumors of it being an unfinished mon
Also doesn't get the protagonist paper it could have
velvet root
Btw wasnt there a random guy in the anime with a Heatran in the background?
silent acorn
Eh
Not enough for such a based mon
Concept
Concept is excellent, execution is godawful and use has been lackluster
velvet root
silent acorn
Lackluster as I said
velvet root
I really like how its done
velvet root
Btw could it be that it is a Bullfrog?
silent acorn
Honestly I like it better than volcanion
snow prairie
Smh heatran is a very interesting legendary bc it can be either male or female, implying they can actually reproduce
velvet root
Cuz it kinda has horns
silent acorn
Btw could it be that it is a Bullfrog?
I consider it salamander more like
snow prairie
We just dont know how
velvet root
Nah a Salamander has a tail
silent acorn
Actually yes
silent acorn
Nah a Salamander has a tail
Unfinished mon
That very tail is why people say it looks unfinished
Like it just had to be a bit longer
And bam salamander
Also salamanders are cool
quaint matrix
Who doesn't go up to the average gym leader queue and not have Heatran casually chilling around
velvet root
A Bull Frog is cool too
quaint matrix
It's just a normal pokemon
silent acorn
lookit what could have been
velvet root
quaint matrix
Just like me casually walking around with Diancie
If we're adding frog pokemons can we add in Seismitoad
velvet root
lookit what could have been
We could play this game with every pokemon
quaint matrix
I know the preevos are like the stupidest part about it
But
Counterpoint
Seismitoad is awesome
silent acorn
We could play this game with every pokemon
Yeah. But salamander is actually fantasy being
silent acorn
Seismitoad is awesome
Le cope
tender plank
it can walk on walls
what the hell did i miss on heatran lore? when could it do this? should i be worried?
quaint matrix
Fat fivehead frog that dies from a simple leaf is peak Unova
velvet root
what the hell did i miss on heatran lore? when could it do this? should i be wor...
Canon Heatran can do a lot if I remember right XD
snow prairie
what the hell did i miss on heatran lore? when could it do this? should i be wor...
How do you think it drops from the ceiling of a cave
tender plank
WHAT]
velvet root
Wasnt that Lava thing actually a Heatran
Everywhere I look it is called "Infernal Heatran"
snow prairie
Pure fire type heatran
velvet root
Yep
Heatran can become a Lava Beast XD
fallen loom
Heatran + Heatran
silent acorn
Hey screw you hoss
I was about to say it was kinda neat
I just know it's underrated
Though damn
I didn't know the fans had such vicious tongues...
velvet root
Yep
Heatran can become a Lava Beast XD
Funny enough I think Arceus just murders that Heatran
quaint matrix
I didn't know the fans had such vicious tongues...
Nah you're good lol
quaint matrix
I love Seismitoad but I'm also perfectly fine with the line not being part of the plan to be added and stuff
It's just a goofy ass Water/Ground there's better grounds (hah) to tread
silent acorn
I has something going on though... Its not quite mind blowing
fallen loom
based on what people think of Heatran
silent acorn
It's just a goofy ass Water/Ground there's better grounds (hah) to tread
It's the wishcash kind of mon
They are actually similar I think
quaint matrix
Well now don't push your luck buddy
silent acorn
Kinda
quaint matrix
Whiscash ain't anywhere close to Seismitoad
silent acorn
Wishcash
fallen loom
Quagsire, Gastrodon, Seismitoed and Whiscash are Water/Ground
silent acorn
Seismitoad
quaint matrix
Ngl I'd love the Shellos line more to be added
silent acorn
Whiscash ain't *anywhere* close to Seismitoad
IN STATS and kinda how they play
quaint matrix
Oh I mean true
silent acorn
Gastro main
quaint matrix
But anyway
silent acorn
I like le sluggo
quaint matrix
Ngl I'd love the Shellos line more to be added
We kinda need more slimy/sluggy aesthetics
fallen loom
Seismitoad
can't breed then
quaint matrix
Without being tied to Ditto
silent acorn
Wishcash I kinda give a pass everytime
And seismi I don't know
I kind give a 1 to usually
Gastro tho
fallen loom
Seismi is ugli
fallen loom
Gastrodon has more and it's not like there are as many slug/snail Pokémon in the game as frogs
thorny ferry
based on what people think of Heatran
the Bouffalant and Sigilyph slander is crazy
tender plank
sigilyph goes hard bruh how is it down there with mfing basculin
fallen loom
I don't like it
silent acorn
based on what people think of Heatran
Most of the stuff on maybe eventually is where it should be
silent acorn
based on what people think of Heatran
Except heatran, heatran with bug would make a no weakness mon, absolutely beautiful
fallen loom
Fire/Bug
thorny ferry
I haven't seen any bouffalant love...maybe I should make bouffalant sprites
silent acorn
I haven't seen any bouffalant love...maybe I should make bouffalant sprites<:Tho...
It's because..
Quite frankly
Afro bull
thorny ferry
careful with what you will say
fallen loom
with no Miltank equiv
proud lion
Toilet Bird slander
silent acorn
If anything I wish Boufallant was absolutely Tankier
snow prairie
Tauros rehash is when big quadruped with horns
silent acorn
Eh
copper hollow
Pelliper is a rain team icon
silent acorn
Could have had more hp
fallen loom
I don't like how many regions Pelipper is in
thorny ferry
that afro is more than enough to make it a separate thing
and I will prove it
give me about
10 business days
quaint matrix
based on what people think of Heatran
I'm commenting on @thorny ferry's image later but you're so real for this tbh
silent acorn
Boufallant is better for having reckless though
silent acorn
I'm commenting on <@703693313529610361>'s image later but you're so real for thi...
Many want my boy Excavalier
short cipher
https://tenor.com/view/pelipper-pokemon-gif-11963906549232358118
Hot take: this is my least favourite pokemon of ALL time
I hate that thing
silent acorn
Le knights want sir Beetle in regardless of what happens
quaint matrix
Yeah but usually only Escavalier I feel like
tender plank
i can believe it tbh, look at that pupil shrink. horrifying
quaint matrix
Someone putting Accelgor on the same tier without it feeling like proxy add is the realest
silent acorn
I hate that thing
Don't blame ya actually
silent acorn
Someone putting Accelgor on the same tier without it feeling like proxy add is t...
I do it
snow prairie
Seismitoad is cool bc it could get Wednesday frog into the game
quaint matrix
the Bouffalant and Sigilyph slander is crazy
But okay back to this like
proud lion
Hot take: this is my least favourite pokemon of ALL time
Even more than the Monkeys?
quaint matrix
We're not slandering Gothita and Bronzor line here come on
short cipher
Even more than the Monkeys?
Yes.
silent acorn
Huh it's cruncher than I thought
thorny ferry
We're not slandering Gothita and Bronzor line here come on
I have my priorities
quaint matrix
Especially with having it be together with Finneon and Wurmple line what
proud lion
We're not slandering Gothita and Bronzor line here come on
Bronzong with Arcanine with Maximum emotional damage
thorny ferry
yeah the finneon line is very damn awesome
fallen loom
I think Bronzong and Gothita are ugly
quaint matrix
Bronzong with Arcanine with Maximum emotional damage
I mean idk about that
thorny ferry
it does not deserve to be there either
proud lion
I mean idk about that
I remember that from a strongest fusion video
quaint matrix
Bronzor line kinda lost its luster ever since Steel lost Ghost and (deservedly) Dark resistance
That doesn't sound like a real thing to say now considering Bronzor's whole gimmick is the game of guessing which one is it weak to (except its moot because why guess if you have Ghost and Dark)
Idk its just me though but I definitely see the vision still
Pair it with something that resists Fire and pick Levitate and basically its just weak to those two so no need to guess but just become wall
proud lion
Flash Fire with Air Balloon
quaint matrix
Well its not Flash Fire its Heatproof
And Flash Fire would be kinda wasted on Bronzor line lol
silent acorn
Found it my creativity guide
velvet root
the Bouffalant and Sigilyph slander is crazy
Who made that list???
There are some with sick potential in "pls dont add"
silent acorn
I would put heatran at guaranteed
Magma veins is great
And the mask is good for head
velvet root
Btw
Giga Horn owl goes brrr
wanton creek
i would love to see carbink and roggenrolla evo line fusions
my favourite rock mons
coral axle
I’d love Gigalith
swift chasm
I am really hoping to see a Charcadet been added to the game someday. Can create some superb fusions.
velvet root
I am really hoping to see a Charcadet been added to the game someday. Can create...
Bad news
gen 8 and higher wont be in Infinite Fusion
hollow creek
Heatran is weird, never came off as anything close to a mythical and is really forgettable despite me liking its design
velvet root
Heatran is weird, never came off as anything close to a mythical and is really f...
Isnt it a normal legendary XD
hollow creek
I'd like it for IF because it has that iron mask thing going on tho
velvet root
Heatran is weird, never came off as anything close to a mythical and is really f...
Its forgettable cuz Gamefreak never does anything with it except throw it in a Vulcano
hollow creek
Isnt it a normal legendary XD
I have no idea, i think it just does its own thing
velvet root
I'd like it for IF because it has that iron mask thing going on tho
And its a funny Bullfrog
ornate tide
Clawitzer based
hollow creek
And its a funny Bullfrog
I would like heatran a lot more if they gave it a frog pouch and actual frog legs
outer matrix
Politoed/heatran ^
velvet root
Yeah
Politoed/Heatran just becomes a normal ass bullfrog
coral axle
Heatran cool
glass patio
Nah lets make it naked
that’s a fucking frog omfg
velvet root
that’s a fucking frog omfg
You didnt know Heatran is a frog?
thorny ferry
made some Bouffalants as I said
thorny ferry
fr?
silent acorn
i would love to see carbink and roggenrolla evo line fusions
Carbink is in actually
wanton creek
Carbink is in actually
roggenrolla isn't tho
silent acorn
Yeah I know
thorny ferry
togetic
silent acorn
I actually only have carbink there and Golisopod because back then they hadn't gotten in
thorny ferry
pokemonpilled
wanton creek
Do you mean fusing em together
yeah the two rock types i want to see fused
silent acorn
Gonna update mine actually
glass patio
yeah the two rock types i want to see fused
that could look cool
velvet root
You didnt know Heatran is a frog?
interesting trivia
"Trivia
No other Pokémon has the same type combination as Heatran.
Heatran's type combination has the most double resistances of all combinations, with five: Steel, Bug, Grass, Ice, and Fairy.
In the Japanese version of Pokémon X and Y, two women in Jaune Plaza mimic the sounds of Pokémon. One mimics the sound of a Heatran, while the other compliments her. However, this is mistranslated in the English version to say that there is a Lava Dome Pokémon in Jaune Plaza.
Heatran is the only Pokémon introduced before Hidden Abilities that cannot be obtained with its Hidden Ability in any game without an Ability Patch."
velvet root
made some Bouffalants as I said
Bouffalant is funny as a head
glass patio
trivia no other pokemon has the same type combination as shedinja 
velvet root
true
glass patio
trivia no other pokemon has the same type combination as shedinja <:ditto:415314...
and uhh
wanton creek
that could look cool
i love crystal like stuff when i had legos i made the entire roggenrolla line out of it didn't have enough slate gray for carbinc
glass patio
i love crystal like stuff when i had legos i made the entire roggenrolla line ou...
i like roggenrola line
wanton creek
they are just pebble with crystals simple and i love it
dusty arrow
im gonna choose people to decide what my next team for a run will be
(they will also be named afted said person)
so uhhh
bucklin what fusion do you wanna be
silent acorn
Goli is to tier so it's in now
velvet root
Weird
dusty arrow
why does it give hp evs lol
gamefreak moment
velvet root
Werent given Evs the best stat (most of the time)
dusty arrow
bucklin what fusion do you wanna be
also mr shedinja
tacit saddle
why does it give hp evs lol
funny
glass patio
i mean it’s its most notable stat
dusty arrow
Werent given Evs the best stat (most of the time)
usually yeah
glass patio
i mean it’s its most notable stat <:ditto:415314839456579585>
because it’s one
so fair enough
glass patio
bucklin what fusion do you wanna be
uhhh
velvet root
It put its hp to the side to share them with others
lean hedge
when are the gen 7 pokemon coming? i know that it takes time but i cant wait to fuse my 2favorite pokemon lucario and greninja
glass patio
stufful/shedinja
velvet root
when are the gen 7 pokemon coming? i know that it takes time but i cant wait to ...
Greninja isnt even gen 7
dusty arrow
ill probably evolve it since imma have it start as stufcada
..is there even a bewear shedinja yet
glass patio
..is there even a bewear shedinja yet
Yep
dusty arrow
good to know
dusty arrow
its amazing
glass patio
one of my fav sprites i’ve made
velvet root
lol
dusty arrow
wait is that stuff or bewear-
velvet root
It definetly is hilarious
glass patio
dusty arrow
It definetly is hilarious
zerocipher
glass patio
this little mf swept zapmolcuno
dusty arrow
you shall be the second one
glass patio
i love him
dusty arrow
he so silly
glass patio
it’s only weak to dark btw
dusty arrow
btw do you want me to use the bewear colored one or shedinja colored one
velvet root
You know what
I choose a newer sprite of mine even tho I could have given you a fusion with one of my favs
dusty arrow
You know what
I choose a newer sprite of mine even tho I could have given you a ...
aggron/luxray?
velvet root
Glalie/Luxray
dusty arrow
or glalie
hollow creek
I need to make a shedinja fusion
glass patio
btw do you want me to use the bewear colored one or shedinja colored one
shedinja colored ig
dusty arrow
goes hard
velvet root
You know what
I choose a newer sprite of mine even tho I could have given you a ...
Sabertoothed Ice type lynx goes brrrr
dusty arrow
I need to make a shedinja fusion
since you magically appeared here you can become my third member
i also think your name is silly
hollow creek
since you magically appeared here you can become my third member
Third member offfff
?
velvet root
Third member offfff
A new run of his
dusty arrow
my team that im letting people here make
velvet root
you decide a fusion and get named after it
glass patio
I need to make a shedinja fusion
hollow creek
you decide a fusion and get named after it
Oh cool sure
hollow creek
my team that im letting people here make
So do i just give you a fusion
dusty arrow
yeah
short cipher
His name will be "Ba-baingee"
What a nice one
dusty arrow
ill do ba-baingurgy since i wanna keep the name of the original person in it as long as you like the name-
hollow creek
What a nice one
I have a decent few of em
dusty arrow
hold on cacturne/crobat would go insanely hard actually
velvet root
The meganium is beautiful!
short cipher
I have a decent few of em
Wow another reason why I like cacturne
hollow creek
Ty 
hollow creek
I have some cacturne bodies but they're admittably not as good
glass patio
steelix looks cool
velvet root
I have a decent few of em
I know my starter for my "Chikorita as starter" run!
dusty arrow
i honestly wanna see a cacturne/crobat from you
hollow creek
I have an idea for it
dusty arrow
especially since you will become it
outer matrix
His name will be "Ba-baingee"
that looks so cool 
short cipher
especially since you will become it <:heehee:945800365457149992>
Where are you in your team making btw
dusty arrow
Where are you in your team making btw
3/6
hollow creek
Glad people enjoy my cacturne sprites
full bison
I promise if we get UBs I'll try and become the Nihilego guy with concept sketches cause I have so many ideas on how to handle that mon
dusty arrow
i wanna see a fusion that references mega cacturne from insurgence
dusty arrow
I promise if we get UBs I'll try and become the Nihilego guy with concept sketch...
nihilego/gardevoir will be a lusamine nihilego reference i guarantee it
full bison
i wanna see a fusion that references mega cacturne from insurgence
Remoraid/Cacturne maybe? cause gun?
glass patio
I promise if we get UBs I'll try and become the Nihilego guy with concept sketch...
why not start now 
dusty arrow
true
silent acorn
I have some cacturne bodies but they're admittably not as good
I feel like the empoleon is only missing some shading to be perfect, and honestly Bastiodon is hard as nails to get right
hollow creek
I feel like the empoleon is only missing some shading to be perfect, and honestl...
If you have a creative idea for bastiodon its really fun to sprite imo
I feel like I enjoy the back sprite a lot more than the front because it looks like the gun just pokes out of the arm like its a character in gmod freaking out
full bison
If you have a creative idea for bastiodon its really fun to sprite imo
Maybe combine it with Klinklang and make a train?
I'd love to see a train Mon after Coalossal disappointed me
hollow creek
Maybe combine it with Klinklang and make a train?
I feel like a lot of bastiodon head fusions just copy and paste the head onto the mon and I want to make better sprites for those first
velvet root
Btw
Cactus Goat when?
opaque ether
I feel like I enjoy the back sprite a lot more than the front because it looks l...
That looks so good.
full bison
Been trying to draw a Froslass Goat myself but got artists block
Can't decide beteen a standard kimono pattern or snowdrift on it's back
both would really affect the silhouette
velvet root
Not until gogoat ACTUALLY gets in iF <:smh:794269486206550046>
Really hope it gets in soon cuz that fusion from you will be awesome
velvet root
Can't decide beteen a standard kimono pattern or snowdrift on it's back
I mean you can play around with it
hollow creek
I think i'd go gogoat/cacturne first because I actually like gogoat's palette
a lot
full bison
nihilego/gardevoir will be a lusamine nihilego reference i guarantee it
If I was to draw Nihilego/Gardevoir I'd probably go out of my way to avoid Mortherbeast references. Nihilego has an amazing Uncanny Valley potential that other Pokemon lack
outer matrix
jelly wooper
full bison
litte guy
velvet root
If I was to draw Nihilego/Gardevoir I'd probably go out of my way to avoid Morth...
When Nihiligo gets added I fuse pokemon with Lusamine or what her name was
full bison
My big Motherbeast idea is stuff like combining it's come and massive arms with something like Golisopod while continuing to avoid giving it a face
hollow creek
Nihiligo is cool, it'd be fun to work with a transparent mon
velvet root
True
hollow creek
idk why its rock type tho
full bison
glass, that's why
velvet root
Cuz
Cuz
Yeah
outer matrix
nihilego is apparently based on glass as well
full bison
You think if UBs ever got different abilities, they'd give Nihilego Poison Puppeteer?
It's thematically appropriate
hollow creek
You think if UBs ever got different abilities, they'd give Nihilego Poison Puppe...
Probably
Out of all the UBs im hoping for stakataka or blacepalon, though I dont think any UBs are coming this time around
full bison
Naganadel would IMO be one of the most interesting ones to work with considering how it could twist up Pokemon's biology
velvet root
Im a big Blacephalon enjoyer
Stakataka is fun but idk what to do with it
Im not a fan of the grafitti walls idea people had last year
full bison
The big thing that Stakataka could do is being monopolized by Pallosand
outer matrix
blacephalon fusions are very fun to make
hollow creek
You guys ever play mario 3d world and get to the bowser world
outer matrix
just look at which ones we have atm
hollow creek
Thats the impression i get from blacephalon and id like to incorporate visuals from that
hollow creek
Im not a fan of the grafitti walls idea people had last year
I think its body strucutre is unique and fun, you can make the tower into anything
velvet root
outer matrix
Thats the impression i get from blacephalon and id like to incorporate visuals f...
?
velvet root
Wasnt 3d world the one for the 3 ds
velvet root
Oooh
hollow creek
Wasnt 3d world the one for the 3 ds
No that was mario 3d land
short cipher
Wasnt 3d world the one for the 3 ds
Nope that one was 3d land
velvet root
I see my confusion
full bison
Mario games from a certain time frame really blend together
hollow creek
You got all that shiny stuff and casino/carnival aesthetics and blacphalon bodies arent even THAt awkward to work with
full bison
they've gotten better about that though
velvet root
outer matrix
blacephalon variants/forms that are based on different clown types/themes
full bison
Fire/Fairy makes way more sense for Blacephalon than Fire/Ghost
outer matrix
what would a fire/fairy even look like?
short cipher
what would a fire/fairy even look like? <:Thonking:750466447339421716>
grilled marshmallow
fallen loom
what Tapu Lele should have been
fallen loom
*grilled marshmallow*
regional Swirlix
short cipher
regional Swirlix
Yes that was my mind
velvet root
Let me guess
Because of the snake tail?
fallen loom
yes
fallen loom
fire/ground then
velvet root
fire/ground then
No
Ground doesnt make sense either
fallen loom
Normal
velvet root
No
fallen loom
Fighting
fallen loom
TBF, reminds me of Pyroar who should have evolved again to Fire/Poison
velvet root
Oh a Pokémon thats part lion reminds you of the lion pokemon
Also whats your obsession with Lions and poison type XD
velvet root
Wait wait
What types do these 2 have for you?
velvet root
Pyroar's tail looks like a stinger
Thats how a Lions tail looks like
fallen loom
Wait wait
What types do these 2 have for you?
Electric/Flying or Electric/Grass and the other Bug/Water
fallen loom
hard to tell with birds if they keep flying or not
velvet root
prime dust
velvet root
Lol
fallen loom
I wasn't talking about that
prime dust
that's the only reason to mention birbs and flying in the same sentence
full bison
We have plenty of birds who aren't Flying, and plenty of sea creatures that aren't Water. When can we get an arthropod that isn't Bug? Aside from Kabutops, it'd probably be Bug if not for the fossil thing
fallen loom
in response to this:
#pif-hoenn-discussion message
#pif-hoenn-discussion message
#pif-hoenn-discussion message
full bison
Keep forgetting about Drapion
velvet root
Are shrimps bugs?
fallen loom
We have plenty of birds who aren't Flying, and plenty of sea creatures that aren...
yes, birds who don't have flying type:
Golduck
Blaziken
Empoleon
Decidueye
fallen loom
Are shrimps bugs?
yes
outer matrix
clauncher 
tender plank
https://tenor.com/view/clauncher-pokemon-water-gif-20652289
oh, to be as swagalicious as a clauncher...
the dream tbh
fallen loom
but mono Water is boring
velvet root
clauncher <:ohyes:686653537911832661>
Oh your here
And you like my Fire/Fairy?
full bison
Crustaceans are weird in Pokemon taxonony. 90% of them aren't treated as bugs, then there's Crustle
