pif-hoenn-discussion

[grave jolt]

Water/Steel is great

[drowsy drift]

I'm hoping more unique abilities get added with the rest of the pokemon

[grave jolt]

How many more abilities are we missing?

[drowsy drift]

we still have just marril line for huge power users

[grave jolt]

Outside alola

[ember bear]

komala's comatose?

[quaint matrix]

Oh yeah Medicham line would be real good

[ember bear]

breh

was about to list plenty of alola

[grave jolt]

imagine Komatose Snorlax

Komalax

[quaint matrix]

How would regional forms work in this game anyway

[ember bear]

they don't

[drowsy drift]

we don't have any

[quaint matrix]

Exactly

[grave jolt]

Frog hates regionals 😦

[drowsy drift]

it's sort of a waste for designs for fusions, kinda.

[grave jolt]

Consider: More Ice Types

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-vulpix-cute-alolan-form-wag-tail-gif-15323964

[drowsy drift]

vanillish please

[ember bear]

alolan ninetales is peak

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-vulpix-cute-alolan-form-gif-15323986

[quaint matrix]

I'm still very type-brained tbh so I can agree it's a waste if the Pokemon essentially just gains a type and still has the same type

Smth like Galarian Rapidash is radically different enough that its worth adding

[grave jolt]

Alolan Vulpix line is Ice/Fairy iirc

[quaint matrix]

Also Alolan Ninetales but also the regional exclusive evolutions

Which I still maintain is the worst thing about regional forms

[noble widget]

we gonna have Alolan form?

[quaint matrix]

"WHOA LINOONE EVO WHAT-oh only on the Galarian form"

Like it's such a waste of Pokemon space too

[sturdy frost]

no

[ember bear]

hoennian obstagoon with belly drum and e speed

[grave jolt]

none of those in gen 7

[ember bear]

🔥

[quaint matrix]

Yeah and I'm glad it was that way

But of course GameFreak ruins it

[prime dust]

no

[quaint matrix]

[clear lichen]

Whoops! All Gen 1

[prime dust]

we will never have regional forms

or megas

[clear lichen]

Jokes aside, quite a few of these would be cool

[noble widget]

Aw

[prime dust]

outside sprite references

[drowsy drift]

Bronzong line could give you heatproof

[clear lichen]

Though not very possible

[grave jolt]

Fire/Ghost Marrowak is cool tho 😦

[clear lichen]

Alolem is the only Pokemon with Galvanise

So uhh

We aren't getting that ability

[prime dust]

not much of a loss

the ability is kind of crap

[noble widget]

we need to have the gen 7 starters :<<<

[grave jolt]

😦

[prime dust]

maybe someday in the future

[noble widget]

Yeah

I need my Decidueye

[quaint matrix]

Well not if you fuse and give it to a Pokemon with a better Normal movepool

[clear lichen]

Think of all the physical Electric STAB we are losing out on though

[noble widget]

You can just exclude Incineroar if u want to, the other two is enough

[quaint matrix]

That's kind of why I imagine he wants Galvanise in

Refrigerate is an amazing ability stuck on the majestic junk Aurorus but you can fix it by fusing it with smth else better

[clear lichen]

Imagine STAB electric type Espeed

That'd be hilarious

[grave jolt]

Just kick out incin, no reason for litten and torracat to suffer

[quaint matrix]

Lmao

[noble widget]

YES

[prime dust]

even then it is still crap

[noble widget]

Oh and do we have a Draco Meteor TM

[quaint matrix]

Well less so now that it's not saddled with the Alolan Geodude line

[prime dust]

?tag locations

[opal trail]

Here are the different locations of Pokemon (Classic and Remix), TM's, Legendaries and others! https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/Locations

[prime dust]

^check here

[quaint matrix]

I'm still amazed people held on to the Incineroar hate (and valid tbh)

[noble widget]

thanks

[prime dust]

that was because:

[quaint matrix]

Fire/Dark is such a wicked type but Incineroar is uhhhhhhhhhh

[grave jolt]

We do not have draco meteor

[prime dust]

1. he stood up on two legs
2. we thought he was going to be yet another gods damned fire/fighting starter when he did that

[grave jolt]

We got a not-fighting type in the worst way possible

Imagine Fire/Fighting Incin with intimidate?

[prime dust]

no

[noble widget]

the firefighters are good, Emboar, Blaziken and Infernape are amazing

but that fire/dark cat?

[prime dust]

they were until we had 3 of them in a row

[noble widget]

:v

[quaint matrix]

It was good that they break tradition with Delphox (albeit they're still divisive maybe?)

[grave jolt]

Blaziken is amazing. Infernape is meh, and I've never liked Emboar.

[prime dust]

the community made constant meme picutres about any fire starter after those 3

[quaint matrix]

After all that I can't be surprised that like everyone loves Skeledirge lol

Skeledirge is raw ass heat

[noble widget]

Infernape has cool fusions

[prime dust]

so, by that logic, you also don't like Uncle Iroh

[grave jolt]

"HOLY SHIT HE'S ON FOUR LEGS"

[prime dust]

because that was the way most people dealt with Emboar

[clear lichen]

This is the most random thing I've seen today

[quaint matrix]

Also the one getting the Fighting type looking cunty as hell instead of being generic big strong furry man is also refreshing

[prime dust]

don't blame me, the community thought of emboar as iroh to compensate the feelings of hatred

[quaint matrix]

Just the most 🏳️‍🌈 looking Water guy

[noble widget]

oh and yeah, I notice that whenever Incineroar should be nerfed, the game took away something but give him something better

example: U-turn for Parting Shot

[grave jolt]

Incin got nerfed by the creation of regulation H

[quaint matrix]

What's regulation h

[clear lichen]

VGC regulation banning all Legendaries and Paradoxes

[grave jolt]

VGC format with No legendaries, mythicals, UltraBeasts, or Paradox pokemon.

[clear lichen]

UBs didn't exist anyways, Mythicals are always banned iirc

[quaint matrix]

Oh tourney stuff

[clear lichen]

RIP Scream Tail

[grave jolt]

Anything strong enough to strangle the format was kicked out.

[clear lichen]

Just wanted to be a goober in peace

But got executed for Flutter Mane's sins

[quaint matrix]

Okay but like look at this man and tell me he ain't the most fruitiest man alive

Like I love it so much

[clear lichen]

Idk it doesn't look like a man it looks like a duck

[grave jolt]

tbh I was expecting a sailor not a...quaquaval

[quaint matrix]

Imagine if he's built like Emboar or Incineroar

[quaint matrix]

I was expecting that back when Quaxly was revealed

[clear lichen]

With... peacock feathers?

Hmm

[quaint matrix]

The head quiff was so easy to visualize with a sailor hate (or even pirate hat tbh)

My headcanon back then was like some pirate captain Water/Dark type

But I like this one a lot more lol

[noble widget]

it's cool :v

[grave jolt]

here's one from reddit back when the starters were leaked

[clear lichen]

What's the lore reason for Quaquaval having peacock feathers

Or well

[grave jolt]

Dancer I think?

[clear lichen]

Water shaped like peacock feathers

[noble widget]

this one sounds Italian for no reason to me

[quaint matrix]

That's pretty good yeah

I was all in on the Weedcat shit so I was expecting Sprigatito to be Grass/Psychic or smth

[clear lichen]

Ykw peacocks are stated to do quivering dances

But Quaquaval doesn't learn Quiver Dance

So idk

Putting Quiver Dance on a physical attacker would've been hilarious

[quaint matrix]

I think Fuecoco was the only starter I blanked on hard cuz I can't imagine how it being Fighting (heaven forbid) will look like

I think I end up funnily going "oh what if its Mono lmao"

[vocal herald]

Buff alligator

[clear lichen]

That's Feraligatr

[quaint matrix]

Like Skeledirge but without the Dia de Los Muertos/ghost motif and just big ass chomper crocodile

[vocal herald]

Same difference

[quaint matrix]

Yeah exactly just fire Feraligatr

I kinda would love that ngl

[vocal herald]

Right??

[quaint matrix]

Mono Fire while the Grass and Water starter is the one that gains a second typing

[clear lichen]

I like the direction they went in with Skeledirge

[vocal herald]

Quaxly has my heart

[clear lichen]

Funnily enough they've done something similar before twice, once for Water and once for Grass

[grave jolt]

https://i.redd.it/k0s4e9xlt5p81.jpg

[quaint matrix]

Yes which is why I said that

[clear lichen]

Unless I'm forgetting something

[grave jolt]

Another from R/pokemon

[quaint matrix]

Blastoise and Sceptile is the odd duck here

So there should be an odd duck Fire starter happening at some point

Emboar could've been so good if they just mono typed it tbh

[quaint matrix]

I would've been okay with this type of look I guess

But Skeledirge just mogs this hard

[grave jolt]

I think Feraligater did the design better

[clear lichen]

Gen 9 starter trio is probably my favourite of the bunch

[quaint matrix]

It's what the Gen 7 starter trio should be

[clear lichen]

Gen 7's starter trio isn't bad either though

[quaint matrix]

If I ignore Incineroar it is pretty peak

[clear lichen]

Where Gen 9

[quaint matrix]

[clear lichen]

Not sure what my least favourite starter trio is

I dont dislike any of them

[grave jolt]

Grass type Incinneroar is never getting into IF 😔

[quaint matrix]

I love Gen 2 the most tbh

I don't even play Gen 2 when it came out (my ass didn't exist that time) but it's the most nostalgic looking for me

[velvet root]

We finaly got a Quadruped starter and everyone wants it to stand up qwq

[quaint matrix]

That was before Skeledirge was revealed

[grave jolt]

My favorite trio is split between Gens 4 and 7

[velvet root]

But even now I find people that want him to stand up

[quaint matrix]

I think my favorite trio (outside of the Gen 2 fake nostalgia pick) is 4 and 6

Maybe 3

[clear lichen]

It's bizarre that some fans will constantly say the Karen quote then shittalk Meganium for being too weak

[quaint matrix]

But Sceptile being mono kinda ruins it

[clear lichen]

I dont understand this thought process

[grave jolt]

My love for litten alone makes up for every failing of gen 7

[quaint matrix]

I'm so surprised when they added Steel to Gen 2 they didn't also just make it so Blastoise gains a Steel typing

It feels obvious

[noble widget]

my favorite for gen 9 is Skeledirge

[grave jolt]

Blastoise got shell smash
In gen 8

[clear lichen]

Which is why Mega Blastoise returning would be catastrophic

[noble widget]

then Meowscrarada

[grave jolt]

Imagine Shell Smash, Shell Armor, Steel Type Mega Blastoise

[clear lichen]

Nah, I'd Mega Launcher

[grave jolt]

Mega Launcher sucks

[clear lichen]

OK but how does shell armour help there

You're using Shell Smash

[quaint matrix]

I didn't know what Shell Smash is so I looked it up and oh whoa wow

[clear lichen]

Not Cosmic Power

[quaint matrix]

Nuttiest buff this side of Quiver Dance

[clear lichen]

If you want it to be broken, give it Water Bubble

Though, it already is broken

I do think it runs Mega Launcher boosted moves

So it can keep it

That said, Hydro Pump is still better than Water Pulse

L

[ember bear]

accuracy!

[grave jolt]

Blastoise can learn 3 moves effected by mega launcher.

[clear lichen]

The power matters a lot

[clear lichen]

Probably like Water Pulse, Aura Sphere and something else

[ember bear]

just give it origin pulse

[clear lichen]

Dark Pulse maybe?

[ember bear]

trust

[grave jolt]

Dark Pulse, Dragon Pulse, and Water Pulse.

[clear lichen]

Damn

No Aura Sphere

Unfort

[ember bear]

aura sphere works

[clear lichen]

... wait why does it learn Dragon Pulse?

[grave jolt]

80, 85, and 60 (90 with stab) respectively

[grave jolt]

Egg move

[clear lichen]

I could see it running Dark Pulse

Hear me out

Terrain Pulse with Tapu Koko

[grave jolt]

Give Lucario Mega Launcher

[clear lichen]

Because it'd be funny

[clear lichen]

Probably would prefer Adaptability on the Mega

[grave jolt]

Cmon, give Lucario a gun! It'll be funny!

[clear lichen]

But as long as only the base form gets it I'd be down with this change

That said, Mega Launcher being on a Pokemon with a Mega but not being on the Mega would be so confusing

[grave jolt]

At that point Adaptability is just better mega launcher for Lucario

since it's all of Lucarios stab moves, not just Aura Sphere

Lucario actually also gets Dragon Pulse, Dark Pulse, and Heal Pulse

[molten latch]

No wonder why his paws are adorable while using Pulse type moves.

[celest bobcat]

Surfing the search
@lethal reef did you cry twice?

[molten latch]

He did, secretly. . .

[celest bobcat]

Personally the bugs I'll be rooting for are Leavanny and Surskit but are they leetol? XD

[thorny ferry]

Poor guy got targeted lmao

[celest bobcat]

Was it a target? It was more of a congratulations since the two got in

Sorry if it was like that

[velvet root]

Birb

[thorny ferry]

I thought Soup was saying they wouldn't like golisopod and lurantis in

[celest bobcat]

How'd you come to that conclusion when the next line is Soup wanting Wrumple and Burmy XD

[thorny ferry]

2 hours of sleep

[steel meadow]

birb

[molten latch]

Noice

[steel meadow]

This was actually not planned we just happened to make two bird at the same time

[molten latch]

Still ashame that we have to wait longer

[fathom ridge]

i wonder if we were meant to have an announcement today but bc of the repo dying we arent getting it

[molten latch]

True

Is Crabomidable better or Crawdaunt?

[lethal reef]

I TURNED AWAY FROM THE SERVER FOR FIVE SECONDS

Not gonna lie though I did tear up when Wimpod and Golisopod got in because MY BOYS....I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THEM FOR SO LONG

[molten latch]

Indeed

So does my favorite Lurantis

[lethal reef]

I'm just saying, we COULD have more bugs in the sever

[molten latch]

Indeed

[celest bobcat]

No
Get the Meloetta, the Intrusive Wrumple thought lost

Lol

[molten latch]

Ashame

I mean Wrumple has variety

[lethal reef]

Lurantis was such a goated choice, now we all get pants bug and really thats all we need (even if luranits is a plant not a bug)

[molten latch]

Especially the Elemental Monkes

[celest bobcat]

True

But I wanted Meloetta

[lethal reef]

wrumple is love, wrumple is life

[lethal reef]

but just think...if wrumple gets in thats five more whole meloetta fusions!!!

[molten latch]

But we already have Meloetta

[celest bobcat]

If Wrumple got in we would get 0 Meloetta fusions

[celest bobcat]

I was talking about my raffle choice Lol

[molten latch]

Unless you meant the old votes

I know

[celest bobcat]

If I were to choose Wrumple over Meloetta...
How many Silcoon and Cascoon Fusions would there be now in total?

[molten latch]

Like alot id say.

[prime dust]

at least 2

[molten latch]

But I understand the hype of Meloetta

I dont mind.

[prime dust]

a silcoon/cascoon fusion, and the reverse

[celest bobcat]

Fusion hack

After making a Cascoon fusion, copy it, make it lighter, and make the eyes droopy

Instant Silcoon fusion

[lethal reef]

While I'm not fussed on meloetta she has made some excellent sprites so I'm happy she's in

[fathom ridge]

silcoon and cascoon bodys would be exacly the same, and the heads are very similar

[lethal reef]

EXACTLY

[molten latch]

Indeed

[lethal reef]

Speedrunning great spriter and pokefan would be SO quick with those two

[celest bobcat]

Getting those roles with Roserade, I'd be slightly annoyed Lol

[molten latch]

Ye

BTW

Any new fusions from you?

[celest bobcat]

Nope
I'm currently shrinking my Roserades

[lethal reef]

I'm still working on my scolipede line pokefan so I would just be grabbing those easy bodies for them xD

[molten latch]

I see

[fathom ridge]

wait you already have 5 pokefans

[molten latch]

Including me

[fathom ridge]

roserade is such a cool mon

[celest bobcat]

And a cool Mon needs cool fusions

[molten latch]

Yeah

[celest bobcat]

And that's where I come in

DIFFERENT POSES \o/
Keep the Roserade head as much as possible
I will NOT put a Bruxish head onto a Roserade

[twin phoenix]

If Melo wasn't already in by the time I got here, I wouldn't have become a spriter. 😦

[fathom ridge]

are those lips too much haha

[molten latch]

Yes

[celest bobcat]

My bad / You're Welcome

[molten latch]

Roserantis is gonna be a good one.

[fathom ridge]

you are the one that putted melo in the raffle?

[celest bobcat]

I am yeah

[molten latch]

So does Rosesopod

[celest bobcat]

Won with a Roserade

[fathom ridge]

if i hypothetically had a time machine, how much money would i have to bribe past you with to put vikavolt instead?

[lethal reef]

I WOULD DOUBLE THIS

[celest bobcat]

Lunarade already exists so I'm stepping up my game when I make my own

Meaning it will be just as cool or even better!

[lethal reef]

vikavolt is PEAK

[celest bobcat]

Woooooo

[twin phoenix]

I shall repay that in due time.. Roserade is a mon I love but keep sleeping on.

[celest bobcat]

Not even an option for me

If you wanted a bug, Wrumple, Surskit or Leavanny were my options

[molten latch]

True.
Id imagine you as an Elite 4 with Roserades BTW.

[fathom ridge]

i think we arent likley to get another bug mon since we are having a bug contest now, so its probably over for my boy

[molten latch]

[lethal reef]

Oooh leavanny is also an excellent choice

[celest bobcat]

Cynthia exists with a Roserade in her team Lol

[fathom ridge]

but what about... 5€

[molten latch]

Indeed

So its not out of place anyways

Like 6 Roserade fusions of your choice

[celest bobcat]

...5€ is 5€...

I'll have my iconic one in there

[molten latch]

Indeed

[fathom ridge]

if one of my sprites was inmortalize as a emote or stiker i would be so happy

[celest bobcat]

Just ask

[molten latch]

I wonder what does other famous artist's Elite 4 pokemon team would look like. Especially Mammuth or Ribbon.

[celest bobcat]

I asked for this

Someone added the Man

And it's now a sticker

[fathom ridge]

i dont have any funny sprites tho, if i maded one i think was perfect i would put it in #discord-suggestions

[celest bobcat]

I was thinking

If I were to ask for one of my sprites to be a sticker, what's would be used a lot...

Then I locked in on my existential crisis Stunrade

Lol

[twin phoenix]

Here I was thinking elite four meant the contest placement role.

[celest bobcat]

I think I made a new Rade that could be a neat sticker but one is enough

[fathom ridge]

looking at my gallery i dont think i have any that would be a perfect fit

[celest bobcat]

I dare you guys
Put your favorite pokemon in the Slaking Pose

[fathom ridge]

[celest bobcat]

If they have no arms, give them Slaking's arms

[twin phoenix]

Uhh.. hmm.. I'll see if Palkia can..

[fathom ridge]

i feel like bisharp would be weird in that pose

[tender plank]

i am accepting this challenge

[molten latch]

Indeed

Imagine 4 famous pokemon artist

[celest bobcat]

If you want another one

Make your pokemon lie down flat on the floor with a Stunfisk fusion

[fathom ridge]

stunfiks has so much potential for shitpost sprites

[celest bobcat]

Stunfisk/Wimpod

They both have the same body type

[fathom ridge]

wimpod looks like a roomba

oh god im going to make registeel/wimpod

[molten latch]

So does Grubbin 2nd evo.

Looking like a Bus

[fathom ridge]

charjabug my beloved

[fathom ridge]

vikavolt pls frog pls

[celest bobcat]

Minecraft block series

[molten latch]

Ey

[fathom ridge]

🤨

[celest bobcat]

Yup
That's a Palkia in a Slaking Pose alright

[fathom ridge]

also palkia as a favorite pokemon is so cool

[molten latch]

Indeed

[celest bobcat]

Now imagine Slaking/Palkia like that

[molten latch]

No wonder why it looks like what Robotnik called.

[celest bobcat]

And you got yourself a neat concept art

[molten latch]

[fathom ridge]

i feel like dialga is more popular bc of mystery dungeon

[tender plank]

i liked dialga more just bc it was blue, although palkia's cool too. i'd say they're about equals in my opinion

[fathom ridge]

yeah the blue is a big plus

[celest bobcat]

People just prefer Brontosaurus over Tyrannosaurus

[molten latch]

Yeah. . .

Atleast Palkia has an origin form

[fathom ridge]

primal dialga also goes hard

[molten latch]

Goofy Honse

[celest bobcat]

But so does Dialga

[tender plank]

funny enough i also recently started drifting to magenta too, no wonder they seem so equal to me now

[molten latch]

You mean Zamazenta?

[fathom ridge]

zamazenta is cooler

[celest bobcat]

Speaking of colors, do you know how hard it is to find a color scheme to make Roserade fusions when you're dealing with mons like Persian and Jigglypuff? XvX

Thank goodness these new mons have more than 1 color

[tender plank]

maybe? galars a weak point to me (despite being british myself)
but i more just meant i am starting to like pinks more

[fathom ridge]

you can always use colours from the shinys!

[molten latch]

I mean Scream Tails does have that Magenta hair

[celest bobcat]

PERSIAN AND JIGGLYPUFF

[molten latch]

Despite being not related to Jiggly Mc Puffins.

[fathom ridge]

persian has pink in the ears

[celest bobcat]

TPCI PLEASE REMAKE THESE SHINIES
WHY!?

[molten latch]

Funny I called Scream Tail as Daki from Demon Slayer.

For some no reason.

[celest bobcat]

Also I used Alolan Persian colors for Persian/Roserade and now it's possibly being Alted due to it not being Kanto Persian

So no Scream Tail

[fathom ridge]

gengar shiny is just the worst

like there are too many shinys that dont change

[celest bobcat]

Gengar, Garchomp, Ceruledge AKSNSKSNSJSKS

[molten latch]

Ceruledge has contact lenses

[celest bobcat]

Leafeon could have been autumn!

[fathom ridge]

hard pink or green shinys are a bit... you know

[celest bobcat]

I was just about to say that

[finite reef]

Gengar had a passable shiny in 2d

[molten latch]

Ye

[celest bobcat]

Shinies with cooler colors like Blue, Black and just a dark color in general looks way better

[fathom ridge]

bisharp shiny becomes blue and thank good Game freak gave it a good shiny

[molten latch]

No wonder why Shiny Mega Gengar is pink and white.

Or was it white and pink idk.

[celest bobcat]

Me with Roserade's Black and Purple flowers

🙏

[fathom ridge]

chandelure shiny is also very cool

[full bison]

This should've been Shiny Gengar if they were never gonna reuse this pallette for it

[fathom ridge]

making it black sounds cool ngl

[molten latch]

Indeed

[fathom ridge]

mega gengar shiny is awsome tho

[celest bobcat]

Turning a non white pokemon white is always a good option for shinies

[fathom ridge]

i feel like black or white is always a good shiny

[celest bobcat]

Cause that's technically shinies irl

Albino animals hahaha

[molten latch]

Indeed

[celest bobcat]

White with red eyes

[full bison]

Black shinies are the same because melanism

[fathom ridge]

look at these guys

[molten latch]

I dont think Gen 8 and 9 will be in IF but I wish the shinies in every pokemon games were remaked

[full bison]

OK the sprite isn't doing shiny Cyclizar any favors IMO

[fathom ridge]

i think eventually maybe

[quaint matrix]

They'll be added when every other pokemon gets added maybe

Like everyone in Gen 3-7

[fathom ridge]

i hope one day smoliv will get in

[quaint matrix]

Because it's not like we're going anywhere else from there besides the Gen 8-9 fellows

[celest bobcat]

If they asked for Pokemon Emerald Rouge's data then maybe

[fathom ridge]

i think there wont ever be all pokemon in if, bc they add pokemons faster than frog can add them in IF

[full bison]

Apparently Gen 8-9 need to be added manually while Gens 1-7 have some coding thing allowing Frog to just drop them in easily, so we'd probably get the gen 8-9s when some hacker figures out the code for them

[celest bobcat]

We really gotta get some early route mons in since they're pretty popular

Tailow, Buizel, Starly and the Goon

[fathom ridge]

i remember a friend of zerochipher added gen 8 and 9 mons

[celest bobcat]

Buizel isn't in IF yet right?

[fathom ridge]

nope

[quaint matrix]

I want the Starly line in too I feel you

https://tenor.com/view/staraptor-pokemon-pokemon-staraptor-smack-slap-gif-6499452536966253322

Look at this Celdweller/Klayton looking guy

[celest bobcat]

So many edgy fusions with that hair

[fathom ridge]

bird

[full bison]

We get plenty of edge with Midnight Lycanroc, so that's not too big a departure from the norm

[fathom ridge]

hey but its not a furr-

[celest bobcat]

I need to redo my Mid Ly Roserade
It just feels... Odd

Like I feel I can do something more... BUT WHAT?

Yup

[fathom ridge]

show the old one

[quaint matrix]

Now imagine how many edges we get when it combines with Staraptor

And then give it Double Edge for triple the Coldsteel

[full bison]

Anyways, I'm gonna try to draw a Spiritomb/Carbink fusion with this as a reference image. any additions or changes you'd like to see?

[quaint matrix]

I can visualize it pretty damn good tbh

Although I feel like it'd fit Diancie more (if she ever gets added)

[full bison]

I have a different muse in mind for diancie that references the same character at a different, more refined point in their existence.

[celest bobcat]

Hmm
There's just something off

[fathom ridge]

i think you could have a normal face instead of the mask

[trail hull]

you did amazing

[spiral musk]

it's bc the muzzle looks too high compared to the mouth

kinda like peppa pig

[celest bobcat]

I think I can do a better pose as well

It's supposed to be werewolf looking but it just comes across like a Jack Doherty prank...

No one is getting that reference Lol

[molten latch]

[dark prism]

I'm assuming I'm too old to get it

[dark prism]

if the posing is what you have an issue with, maybe it's the legs? perhaps it could have more emphasis on the haunches or something

[velvet root]

I really hope we still get a reveal even with the github problem

[thorny ferry]

I don't think we will

But the next reveal will have two lines to compensate mayhaps

[velvet root]

Maybe idk

[fathom ridge]

the #announcements post specifically says that we should expect delays on the reveals 😔

[velvet root]

I know qwq

[silent acorn]

The edgiest Being

The ultimate lifeform

The wet dream of Dr.Robotnik

[silent acorn]

The reveal is there though

Russian channel

[velvet root]

The Dimitri meme or what it was?

[proud lion]

Looks like the reveal is canceled today.

[steel meadow]

hopefully the issue is fixed very soon

unfortunately it makes it more complicated to play which im sure is turning of players right now

[inland jewel]

i mean, we won't know for sure. I still got 12 hours till its not Sunday

so until then

[trail hull]

we complained about the autogens so the universe got rid of the autogens

it's fine only half of all fusions have sprites

[hot hamlet]

This does remove the “Good Autogens” theme I had suggested (which I wouldn’t do since I have too many on my plate as is)

[trail hull]

what's that?

[molten loom]

Autogens that don't look like

[terse fable]

top tier

[molten loom]

And are more like

[trail hull]

I see

[molten loom]

Heracross has some good autogens

[inland jewel]

a pretty good autogen

[molten loom]

Its face works on a lot

[glass patio]

i gave it wheels

#sprite-gallery message

[molten loom]

Like this

Or this which is great

[glass patio]

best autogen

i made this sprite for it

[molten loom]

Wrong, best autogen is

[glass patio]

true

[velvet root]

Why does such a problem have to happen when we add new mons qwq

[trail hull]

Because it might be because of the new mons

Like adding the autogens

[molten loom]

If that is the case, it truly is the curse of wimpod

[stoic canopy]

Tbf, it sounds like the problem is on gitlab’s end.

[trail hull]

lol

[trail hull]

yes but it might be because frog added too much autogen at once

[stoic canopy]

Maybe, but far more Pokémon were added last year in a shorter timeframe and it didn’t crash anything.

[velvet root]

Probably not even related to us XD

[dusty arrow]

i live

[glass patio]

he live

[hollow creek]

Wonder if the reveal will be the same day the thingy is fixed and if this will disrupt the every Sunday reveal

[viscid mica]

late to the oarty cuz i was busy but hell yea the whole NGS alliance thing worked out

[hidden relic]

I mean, in terms of reveals n' stuff

I don't think we had anything lined up this week anyways

Yeah def not

[silk narwhal]

you really like torturing us don't you

[hidden relic]

maybe

[half needle]

is charja in the game yes

yet

[velvet root]

No

[weak trellis]

not yet

[proud lion]

I wonder if this set back could potentially give us a few additions above 500 in the future?

[velvet root]

Why should it?

[half needle]

nah 500 is a nice round number

[ember bear]

600k members soon

trust

[velvet root]

And we cap it on 500 because we reached 500k

[proud lion]

Maybe Frog likes to troll us and make it uneven for the funny?

[velvet root]

There is realistic wish thinking and unrealistic Wish thinking

[trail hull]

technically we're at 511k rn

you know what that means

[steel meadow]

511 pokemon.

[tender plank]

I... I finally have a chance 🥹
no i do not what am i waffling about

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-tirtouga-gyro-ball-attack-gif-8668309839615307667

what is that move supposed to be?

[tender plank]

the famous magic orb that makes you mad and ghost duplicates you

[ember bear]

gyro ball according to the name of the gif

[velvet root]

lol

We need more Tirtouga fusions

[tender plank]

frr, i seen literally none in the entire time i've been here

to which, i must be the change

brb lemme randomise

ok yeah i can work with this maybe

[hollow creek]

I do not have to energy to do non IF fusions atm

But I could see myself doing a caracosta pokefan if we get it

[tender plank]

no i cannot, what the hell did i expect

i aint even a spriter yet, legit what was i thinking lol

[velvet root]

I do

[tender plank]

he's beautiful

[velvet root]

I like him a lot
very simple but very nice too

I like the blues I can work with

[tender plank]

wait you've JUST reminded i had a skiddo tirtouga in my non published folder why didn't i just share that

[velvet root]

Ngl these 2 can go together soooo good
Cuz the horn is the same as the shell color wise

[tender plank]

i mean that wasn't the route i took with it but that would also slap

[velvet root]

Btw I made a thread for him too #1287495750674157588

[velvet root]

OOOOH
HES AWESOME

obv needs some more clean up but they blend together really well

[tender plank]

i was gonna share it earlier but like everything else, i forget

[velvet root]

#1213539303876206643 If you dont want to finish it you can send it in and say that people can just pic it up

Its such a nice designe!

[tender plank]

i honestly thought it was finished, but i'm welcome to see what needs to be cleaned up

[velvet root]

Im completly honest
I can see you making good sprites if you just start and learn a little more

[velvet root]

Clean up in a way of
Some errors Tirtougas base had
and a little shading and outline stuff
Nothing big at all dw XD

[velvet root]

If im fair
Its only some small clean up
Nothing bad
There are spriters that upload shit in a very bad state XD

Sorry if I sounded mean or so

[faint kiln]

This looks super sick, he's got little greek god horns!

[velvet root]

I can see myself routing strongly for Tirtouga line after we get the Goat

[glass patio]

yes

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-tirtouga-poke-ball-gif-11394833592877450645

Btw now we can definetly be sure nothing comes today since we are 7 minutes over normal reveal time

[tender plank]

rip

but i have the patience for it, i can do other stuff in the meantime

[velvet root]

Yes like sketching out Gogoat fusions

[tender plank]

and weekly tougas every tuesday for me (that i have not been keeping track of lately, i need to fix that)

[velvet root]

Tirtouga Tuesday sounds fun

[tender plank]

it is when you are consistent

[velvet root]

Also
When you buy this

?

[tender plank]

got no money to my name atm😔

didn't even know this existed until now too

this guy has me energy frfr

[silent acorn]

Buy it

[velvet root]

OMG

there is a cobblemon datapack that allows you to fuse fossils

[silent acorn]

yo nice

[silent acorn]

What?!

[tender plank]

ohma god they are so damn precious

[silent acorn]

Oh my god that's awesome

[velvet root]

Rn it has Cradilly/Aurorus, Tyrantrum/Archeoups and Carracosta/Rampardos

[silent acorn]

Show the archeops one

really nice

[coral axle]

Where do you find these figures?

[silent acorn]

cradily can't do that, can it?

[silent acorn]

SOLID

[coral axle]

These are stunning what websites are they on

[silent acorn]

Site named xo Studio pokemon

precious

[coral axle]

Gonna have to convert euros

[tender plank]

damn these go hard

[silent acorn]

as expected of mah monke

and people tell me my deer can't slay

[coral axle]

$7000 doesn’t seem right for some of these

[silent acorn]

Eh

I am Just looking

[coral axle]

No I mean

I’m trying to calculate the prices

Maybe I’m doing something wrong

[silent acorn]

Yeah you are

No way 58 euros becomes 7000 dollars

Euros and dollars are about the same

Usually

[tender plank]

i'm gonna be fr i don't know what any of the money stuff means, my brain's too small to comprehend it but i'm surely gonna keep an eye on it

[glass patio]

no way

[silent acorn]

It means your lifespan is only 2 more days

[silent acorn]

Yes way

[coral axle]

I used the prices on the site

[tender plank]

my final days will be a tirtouga tuesday, how lovely!

[coral axle]

Like a Hydreigon one says 100,000 eur

[silent acorn]

@fathom ridge es tu destino amigo mio

[glass patio]

i need to get a shedinja figure someday

or anything shedinja irl

[tender plank]

but anyways, 26-58 pounds looks promising enough

[silent acorn]

Comma is just cents

Basically the comma means nothing

[coral axle]

Ohhh

Ty for telling me I had no idea

[silent acorn]

128 is more real even if expensive

[coral axle]

It definitely is

[silent acorn]

.... Give your mom your bank account holy cow batman

Anyway yeah

The comma is there just for silly stuff

Like how some us pricing is 0.5

Normal countries just have 10s or 100s

Weird ones have decimals

having a hard time deciding between this one and the other one

magnificent

[coral axle]

Lol she has her own besides mine

I’ve only done yen conversions and got really good deals when I was in Japan

[silent acorn]

Bruh

[coral axle]

This one’s stunning

The Arbok is beautiful

[glass patio]

there is no new pokemon because of the sprotes gitlab thing, chat is dead 😔

https://tenor.com/view/minior-minior-pokemon-pokemon-i-only-stand-for-one-flag-minior-nation-gif-23996712

🚌

[velvet root]

I think they had a Goat too
But shipping to me would be 70€

[spare shore]

miniorr!!!

[cobalt river]

I have a mega camerupt and mega sharpedo (+some trainers) from pokegalerie, theyre stunning figures :] but yes very expensive lol
gotta get a numel figure some day…

[zealous lichen]

announcement day hopefully?

[proud lion]

Sadly not this week

gitlab did an oopsie poopsie

[zealous lichen]

these are cute

[inland jewel]

I gotta question, how are we going to have enough sprites for the new mons for a November or earlier release

If we don’t even know half of the roster

[alpine rune]

Good question

[grave jolt]

tbh I'd accept a december release if the update's postponed.
"For christmas this year, my gift to all of you is clothes!"

[inland jewel]

i think they might do a christmas reveal again

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/simisage-pokemon-pokemon-black-and-white-gif-832835787561791742

[eager quarry]

Red and green pokemon. Very festive

Simipour is the ice on the north pole now that it's gonna melt

[silent acorn]

Ah shipping the bane of all products online

When will the teleporto be invented

[simple gulch]

woah tiny whirili wheel

bus to the underworld

[full bison]

Imagine we get a christmas reveal and it's just Avalugg

Or Crabominable

[high haven]

Abomasnow

[full bison]

Abomasnow would be cool because accessable Hail

[fallen loom]

more like Snover line

Abomasnow is sort of a Christmas tree

[feral bear]

Obama snow is ugly

[feral bear]

I, for one, think that ur deer can ONLY slay 💅

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/volbeat-illumise-gif-26113183

[feral bear]

Also christmas reveal HAS 2 be minior, bc star on top the tree

[fallen loom]

If it's holiday lines, we're likely to get:
Pumpkaboo (Halloween)
Abomasnow (Christmas)
Seviper (Chinese New Year)
Luvdisc (Valentine's Day)
Swirlix (Pancake Day)
Bunnelby (Easter)

[rain locust]

wtf is pancake day

[fallen loom]

the day you have pancakes

[limpid pewter]

When are the gen 5 starters getting in btw?

well

are there plans for them to be added at a time or are they planned for at some point or are they just kinda not cared about

[alpine rune]

No there are no set dates

1. its delayed because of the repo problem
2. theyre giving the spriters time to sprite some stuff before releasing

[limpid pewter]

k

thank you

[dusty arrow]

christmas reveal?

yeah it would be ice type magikarp obviously

[unkempt stone]

I don't get this running gag

[dusty arrow]

what gag?

[velvet root]

Same

[dusty arrow]

it aint a gag

ice type magikarp is a great pick

[velvet root]

I think it is a joke about people who want bad pokemon like minun

[unkempt stone]

Committed to the bit I guess

[grave jolt]

idk who you're talking about, but have y'all heard that Pachirisu is the greatest pokemon ever?

[velvet root]

Nope

[finite reef]

The Cosmog line would be cool

[steel meadow]

Actually i heard something about this Skiddo/Pachirisu thats one of the greatest fusions ever cuz it has skiddo

[steel meadow]

alot of people seem to think that, maybe its one of the legends that has the best chance to get in

[alpine rune]

Youre just scared that you'll get Ice beamed to death

[velvet root]

You guys are as bad as the Lion people arent you?

[fallen loom]

lion?

[velvet root]

1billion lions vs one of every Pokemon

[fallen loom]

dumb question

there are only 1000-something Pokémon

[alpine rune]

ok brother first off, the lion guy was annoying

are you really that tilted from the ice beam hitting gogoat joke?

[velvet root]

[alpine rune]

That lion guy gives me PTSD

[velvet root]

Oh nah
Its more out of this constant ice type magikarp joke

[alpine rune]

I wonder if he's still in the server

[fallen loom]

I mean Ice Type Magikarp already exists in the game... those sprites could be alts I guess

[velvet root]

I would have made a Ice type magikiddo but your leader did shit (that i forgot) and now I wont do it

[fallen loom]

yes

[velvet root]

What did he do?

If me can ask

[brave torrent]

Well, we'll have it in the next update

#1286073529476841512 message

[alpine rune]

i mean you just decribed him perfectly

He always riles up arguments make people fight for no reason

[velvet root]

Let me guess he started the discussion and came with
Lion ladder
Lion airplane
Lion submarin

[velvet root]

Uff

[velvet root]

Funny enough those Lion ladder shit reminds me of a movie

[alpine rune]

Worse part is people fell for the bait

Its a constant cant talk casually anymore

[velvet root]

The Wolfs in Storks

[velvet root]

Uff
Yeah thats shit

[alpine rune]

he's last seen last year

damn

anyways

[velvet root]

Have a Goat to calm down

[wide merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-pokemon-swim-fun-cute-gif-10573132153311794205

and a fish for to chill

[alpine rune]

give goat grassy surge and I'll vote for it it's closed isnt it? frick

[molten latch]

Thanks

[alpine rune]

I just want the surge abilities man

I wanna play [psychic terrain]

grassy surge + sun + chlorophyll would be dope

[velvet root]

I can see it getting Grassy surge
Frogman likes to give mons with bad abilitys better ones
Even more if the abilities are redundant or only 1 exists

[brave torrent]

I need my man Crawdaunt back home

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/fainted-smoke-pokemon-pokemon-crawdaunt-crawdaunt-gif-6320664809328290401

[brave torrent]

Unova fossils are also a must

Archeops fusions will look insane

[velvet root]

I still dont know what version I will use

[velvet root]

Archeops has the problem that people hate feathers
But its awesome
Same for its counterpart

[brave torrent]

Maybe some spriters do

But I believe there are people who are good at it

It's all up to spriters anyways

[velvet root]

Its always all up to the spriters

[brave torrent]

Indeed

[velvet root]

If only bad ones pick it its bad
If pros do it even minun and plusle become good XD

[brave torrent]

Sprites might be good, but gameplay-wise it will be very unpleasant

[velvet root]

Thats another reason I want Gogoat line
Less good spriters can still do good with it
And great ones make masterpieces

[trail hull]

For every strong Pokémon we need a small boi

[brave torrent]

Yeah, gogoats design has very strong themes

I believe archeops having really strong thematics aswell (feathered vibrantly colored lizard)

[trail hull]

Once the gitlab problem is fixed I wonder who will we get

[brave torrent]

Patrat/Watchhog

[trail hull]

Lmao

[brave torrent]

Oh, thinking about basic Unova mons, I love Stoutland's design a lot

[trail hull]

Yeah but there’s a lot of better mons

[molten latch]

As much as I love the normal dog

The design did executed badly.

[brave torrent]

Disagree

[molten latch]

I dont dislike it, but it never interest me

Sorry if that kinda offend you.

[velvet root]

Wouldnt mind

[molten latch]

Patrat is underrated and not bad as a regional mammal.

[brave torrent]

I hate it with passion

Colors are way too vibrant while design is very simplistic

[sweet spoke]

Bro what’d the lil guy do

[rough crown]

Patrat is cool honestly Watchog is the real problem

It's a bigger, brown and uglier version that doesnt add much

I think it would be so much cooler if Gamefreak attempted to do something with those red and yellow hypnotic eyes and maybe grant him a normal-psychic evolution with a nice concept

[velvet root]

The colors are that bright cuz it has a warning vest or how it is called

[sweet spoke]

Hi-vis vest i think

Aka high visibility

[brave torrent]

Oh, my bad. I have a mindset of bundling all pokemon from the evolution line into one entity and then judging off only the final evolution

Patrat is aight

Except for it's eyes

[brave torrent]

I get why it's designed that way. I just dislike it

Colors are way to bright

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/skitty-comfy-pokemon-nya-cat-gif-11268760

[quaint matrix]

If we're adding more silly early game mons I'd love it if the Poochyena and Pikipek line gets added

Ez wolf furry material & "just a spoonful"-ass sized-beak bird makes for a great fusion material I'm sure

[brave torrent]

Have it been discussed earlier wether or not regional versions will be in game?

What is the dev's stance on that?

[quaint matrix]

I think Frog hates them right

Imo they feel superfluous unless the regional form is a radical change in the Pokemon itself (like the Hisuian forms or the fully changed type ones like Alolan Ninetales and Marowak)

[inland jewel]

considering how he didn't include Lycanroc-Dusk because its to similar to Midday

i'd say there isn't much chance for the other regionals to get in

[full bison]

Funny thing about Dusk's exclusion is that if we want Tough Claws now, we need to get Barbaracle added

[dusty arrow]

toucannon also has skill link and absurd stats for aroute 1 bird lol

also beak blast is funny

[full bison]

We already have Skill Link tho

I'd prefer Staraptor as far as route 1 birds go cause Reckless

[sweet spoke]

Chat what’s the best looking route 1 birb

[full bison]

corviknight

[dusty arrow]

does sv even have a regional bird

[full bison]

People count Wattrel as the regional bird

[dusty arrow]

ehhh

[full bison]

don't see why Wattrel wouldn't count

It's not necessarily a route one thing cause Pidove is counted as Unova's regional bird and isn't on route 1

[twin phoenix]

Best looking one for me is probably the weakest one: Swellow.

I guess Talonflame and Corviknight are cool too.

[full bison]

Swellow's actually really good

Guts Facade and Scrappy Boomburst go crazy

[brave torrent]

Staraptor and Corviknight are the best imo

And in terms of fusions Corviknight has a massive potential

[full bison]

too bad there's a Gen 8-9 embargo for now

[brave torrent]

Yeah, unforch

Hope there will be just some exceptions

Or maybe that's because of the copyright

Idk

[full bison]

it's not copyright, it's coding apparently

not sure on the exact details, but gen 1-7 pokemon can just be dropped in

8-9 have to be added more manually

[brave torrent]

Yeah

That's what I thought

Is it that hard tho?

Regardless, there are still lots of great mons that aren't added

[prime dust]

considering the last time frog tried it broke everything

yes

[velvet root]

He also doesnt want to anymore
Maybe far in the future but unlikely

[prime dust]

yep

[velvet root]

I mean its fair
Its his game afterall

[velvet root]

Its basically a " yes but actually no " situation

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

[silent acorn]

When someone's asks this, just give them this one

Because sadly we told frog to put that auto bot to just answer those

But he forgor

[brave torrent]

Eh, well, knowing 8-9 gen evos we'll lose just a handful of good mons

Nope. Looking back, gen 8 had a plenty of good ones

9th however was a design hell

[prime dust]

probably for the best we never get gen8+

spares us from this monstrosity

it has seen things

[wide merlin]

i love the idea of the fusion but it's strange

[full bison]

The idea of Fishious Rend and Gigaton Hammer being added is terrifying

[rain locust]

naw this the best mon

[full bison]

I just realized, what'll happen to the Move Experts when all the Pokemon with signature moves are added?

[rain locust]

Unemployed

[full bison]

Thinking about it more, it's probably for the best we don't get 8-9 mons for awhile. Imagine Sneasler getting added. With Serene Grace Dire Claw.

[ivory rune]

Gigaton hammer on an actual attack stat, and stab fishous rend

[silent acorn]

Wait how come it has a sprite and stats

To be honest I'd imagine Tinkaton just be a massive monster hunter reference mon

But as the hunter

[autumn radish]

Holy Moly, the damage it would do could be devastating. Imagine if it moved after you, and had both Fishious Rend and Gigaton Hammer (both STABs as well).
It would be scary.

[silent acorn]

Busted

[prime dust]

no idea

[full bison]

Moving after you would be good cause Fishious Rend gets its damage buff moving first

[silent acorn]

Man that's some hacking wizardry right there

I Wonder what else is hiding?

[full bison]

Tinkaton would be fun to see fusions of cause it'd be neat to see it Monster Hunter-ing up a bunch of mons into weapons, but Gigaton Hammer absolutely has the potential to become OP

[prime dust]

i never said tinkovish was the best, i said it was a monstrosity

[ivory rune]

I've seen a good few sprites for mons you can only find on the IF showdown, it has its own spriting community iirc

[silent acorn]

Pretty sick

[ivory rune]

not as big as base IF but enough that a good chunk of the popular fusions get sprites

[silent acorn]

What mons have you seen?

[full bison]

Aside from Fishious Rend, Bolt Beak, Dire Claw, and Gigaton Hammer, I wonder what else would be broken wide open if Gens 8-9 were added

[silent acorn]

Alright let's theory craft

[full bison]

Maybe Blood Moon, but that'd depend on if Frog thought that form was different enough from base Ursaluna

[silent acorn]

We have time anyway

And maybe one day the limitation is broken by something

[silent acorn]

Honestly it is

For starters Bloodmon prefers to stand rather than stay on four

It's referenced often

[ivory rune]

Flutter Mane and most paradox mons tbh would be busted

[silent acorn]

Thats because they were kinda made that way

[full bison]

Thinking about it, Ogerpon's Ivy Cudgel would probably be pretty crazy. Can't see the mask forms being added, so maybe it'd become like Revelation Dance and always take on Ogerpon's primary type

[silent acorn]

I can only tell you Bloodmon is my favorite of the 2

I used Bloodmon on my pokerogue run

Damn thing is a beast

[rain locust]

this is a different fusion metagame

[silent acorn]

It's a mix of a tank and glass Canon

[silent acorn]

How so?

[silent acorn]

Actually awesome

[silent acorn]

Where do you check that Anaconja?

[rain locust]

petmodsdh.com

in the meta fusion evolution

[silent acorn]

Thanks ill check it

[rain locust]

jimcool reviewed it some time ago and got a bunch of ppl confused between it and this meta

[silent acorn]

Technically let's us see some of the mons not on this meta in action no?

Well atleast from design

[rain locust]

in a way

[ivory rune]

its different because I'm pretty sure the stats are semi-custom and the abilities are entirely custom by combining the effects of both base pokemon's abilities

[rain locust]

that is correct

[rain locust]

for example the tinkovish's ability has the effects of both slush rush and mold breaker

[ivory rune]

or this guy

sets up rain, boosts its attack because its an orichalcum pulse clone, and also gives itself swift swim

balanced by having kinda terrible stats

[rain locust]

it does not have swift swim

[weak trellis]

eviolite?

[rain locust]

it also had its abil changed to drizzle bc it was p unbalanced ngl

[rain locust]

this meta only grants eviolite to mons whose fusees are both nfe

so that mon wouldnt get eviolite but this would

[velvet root]

Where do these Sprites even come from?
Or can you submit sprites into Showdown?

[rain locust]

sprited mostly by aquaticpanic

[velvet root]

Oooh

[silent acorn]

No lilligant so....

Meh

now this? this I like

[fallen loom]

popular Grass Types not in:
Liligant
Gogoat
Lotad
Gourgeist
Decidueye

[gray vine]

https://tenor.com/view/tropius-pokemon-gif-27432751

[trail hull]

Poor tropius

[gray vine]

im just glad tehy finally did him Justice in 3D

hes finally standing on his legs again

instead of being in a constant flying animation

[trail hull]

Yay big improvement

[rain locust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823049810922831893/1069353712696426547/tropian.png?ex=66f27880&is=66f12700&hm=7df13ad1c8e7f36d0dcb9d26d389daf2eabdcd6956461f8d1eb650ddb4859e37&

[trail hull]

So funny

[molten latch]

Banana Dog

[rain locust]

the stats

[quaint matrix]

I'm late on that discussion still but my opinion with Gen 8-9 is that if ever it gets in we should just prioritize the new Evos

So really just Farigiraf, Annihilape, and Kingambit

Since regional forms are no show for sure

[steel meadow]

Mr.rhime

oh.

[quaint matrix]

Nah the regional form-only evos are so ass ngl

Could've been fun if Mr. Mime gets that Mr. Rime evo but of course it's only stuck on the Galarian version

[steel meadow]

I like him

Funny dance

[quaint matrix]

Also Runerigus stuck on Galarian but at the same time considering his evo requirements...

[steel meadow]

I feel like gen 8 and beyond is where they started to learn how to design fun ice types again

Only other region with fun ice types is sinnoh

[rain locust]

chienpao and bundle are decidedly unfun

and i think i heard that calyice is p dumb too

in vgc

[quaint matrix]

Best Ice type on the Switch gens is so obviously the Frigibax line

[steel meadow]

For competetive yes.

[quaint matrix]

This is not me talking about meta either I think its genuinely the coolest (yeah yeah) Ice type Pokemon made in recent memories

[steel meadow]

As someone that doesnt give a shit about competetive i enjoyed stuff like bundle, glastrier and cetitan

Baxcalibur with loaded dice i think was super fun too

[quaint matrix]

Although if we're talking about meta the fact that it's sent straight into Smogon Ubers is also just wicked

The Ice-type redemption...

[rain locust]

when in doubt just pump the offensive stats ig

[steel meadow]

Arent all ice types except Chien-pao kinda poo now again?

[quaint matrix]

Literally what should be done for the type because of how its type is balanced

[steel meadow]

No give them more defense

[quaint matrix]

Gamefreak: "best we got is another bulky tank slow as Slowpokes pure Ice-types take it or leave it"

[marble meadow]

quick draw quick claw combo

[steel meadow]

Avalugg moment

[quaint matrix]

So funny that they revisited him for Hisui and go "okay what's the best way to fix this guy"

"maybe just be way more bulkier?"

"give it a bit more speed"

"nah y'all tripping just give him the Rock type so he can resist Normal and be neutral to Fire!"

[silent acorn]

And be 4x weaker to fighting, 4x weaker to steel, weak to grass, weak to water, weak to ground.
Oh and let make his special defense mega low, whilst his defense is ultra high, you know what nah let's nerf him and keep him the same.
Let's give it ice body (actually fine idea), and Strong Jaw...

Thing has like 3 bite attacks

Doesn't have other elemental fangs

Honestly man

Atleast ice body gives healing in hail

[quaint matrix]

Well its Snow now apparently

[silent acorn]

Although unfortunately I don't think IF has Gen 9 hail mechanics

[silent acorn]

Nope

Ice body

Literally

[quaint matrix]

I think Snow is the same except no more chipping

[silent acorn]

The other bad thing

Is that atleast Hisuian has rock

[quaint matrix]

But Ice types get way more than that now compared to Hail

[silent acorn]

So that makes it more valuable for fusions than regular

[quaint matrix]

Oh you mean in IF proper lol well yeah

[silent acorn]

Regular has own tempo for some god forsaken reason

[quaint matrix]

I'm only reading what Snow does in Gen 9 and man wtf did Gamefreak do that they had to take 2+ decades to actually cook that

[quaint matrix]

Like if you're gonna make an Ice/Rock at least be aesthetic like Aurorus...

[rancid nymph]

Does being a giant count as aesthetic?

[quaint matrix]

Not much of an aesthetic considering Avalugg is just

Abominable looking

[gilded pagoda]

I think he's neat

[quaint matrix]

Fair

[gilded pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/bergmite-pokemon-spin-get-real-ice-type-gif-16813221136327039346

[gray vine]

Avalugg is awesome

[quaint matrix]

I just hate Avalugg and what it represents in Gamefreak's design philosophy

[gilded pagoda]

eacher spin

[quaint matrix]

I would hate it less (maybe not at all even) if it wasn't Ice type tbh

[gray vine]

what

[gilded pagoda]

yeah, hisui being ice rock was just

pain

But it makes sense thematically

[quaint matrix]

I like Ice types when they're like Baxcalibur or Weavile

Full on frail offensive fiends

[gray vine]

i just care for design

[quaint matrix]

Stuff like Avalugg only works if you stick a secondary typing that just covers its holes

[gray vine]

i dont care for stats

they dont matter i only play the game singleplayer

[quaint matrix]

Yeah Avalugg's design don't work for me either