#pif-hoenn-discussion
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your goal now is to be the spriter with the most goli sprites
Should I resend it for you? so yours is the first?
Who the fudge pudge said is over
Today 15 of September shall be remembered as a day of joy for golisopod

GOTTA MAKE EM SPRITES
After all those losses; Golisopod got his Alola League victory
because last time i was right there waiting just to press enter. now i lost to Zero
would you do it?
Oh, that does make sense!
and for the dark dog who drive the submarine ?
Ah fuck lol
My mon sawsbuck can get it in that Zero probably has the first sprite lol
golisopod when it loses an o
Everyone is in
I wanted to be first for ngs
But for you I take the step back
Now to keep praying that Seviper is next
so... what's the point of the ping for updates role if they never ping you for updates?
What a Chad
thanks
let's see how my list holds up later
2015 ass meme
Being here privilege
thank you bro, i need to make you a sprite, at least you get something back
i guessed it! way back when the missing numbers! i guessed they might throw a bone to the gogoat or golisopod fans!
Almost 10 years old
i dont even have to prepare for when minior gets added i’m already the first 
Unfortunately GGS isn't fulfilled
I mean todays reveal is over unless there’s a surprise
Yea
I feel old
lmao
Whats a ggs
Hurry now before it's too late
me when goomy line was announced tho 
TEAM BUG WINS EVERY TIME
And its done your the first uploader now!
Its been fun yall.
MY MAIN MAN WIMPOD!!!!!!!!!!!!
Goodra Grumpig Spheal 
thank you so much bro. Name your fusion, i'll make it as soon as i can
Like 2 weeks
bruxish too i rember
I mean if you wish I have a little thread that would love to see a Sprite from a excellent spriter like you 
#1213539303876206643
oh ye right
i forgor 
Scolipede
Scolipede
scolipede
All three are in game now
ah right
me hoping for lunala to be added
want a specific Gogoat fusion?
I have gotten a bug in the 15 new pokemon this is happy
do gogoat miltank
We have sheets in the ping you can decide what fusion you like the most
So looks like we're getting runner ups in polls then, pretty sure Goli was up there
It's another bug type I'm not gonna use 
it's been less than 15 mins and there is already a team
alright
% by types as of Gen 7:
39/46 Dragon Types (84.78%)
35/44 Ghost Types (79.55%)
46/64 Ground Types (71.88%)
47/66 Poison Types (71.21%)
34/49 Steel Types (69.39%)
42/61 Rock Types (68.85%)
41/64 Fire Types (64.06%)
51/84 Psychic Types (60.71%)
60/101 Flying Types (59.41%)
20/34 Ice Types (58.82%)
75/131 Water Types (57.25%)
28/49 Electric Types (57.14%)
26/47 Fairy Types (55.32%)
26/48 Dark Types (54.17%)
53/97 Grass Types (54.64%)
59/112 Normal Types (52.68%)
38/77 Bug Types (49.35%)
26/56 Fighting Types (46.43%)
Fuck yeah Golisopod
It was 2nd
Golisipod is so fucking sick
if minior gets added i will demand team minior 1 millisecond after it gets announced
and mighthyena ?
ah so very much looks that way then lol
More like mid
Wrong
Bruh it’s called an opinion
Samurai water bug is sick
I hope we get some Gen 5 mon
wrong
like Scraggy
Wrong
Thing is Golisopod got second place on a poll twice in a row. Being second to both Lycanrock & Kommo-o
slazle next 
No? This channel killed my interest in it
Hmm, how about you two duel in Pokeathlon to settle your differences?
Golisopod is part of the sick bug boys
whoever was 3rd in poll has a goo chance then
So True!
and lumineon ?
goo
but they mighrt also shuffle the reveals to keep us on our toes or make us second gues that
Nothing could go wrong with that 
We needed more cool bug boys 🙏
What if:
and mienshao or gothitelle ?
I want one of the Fighting/Dark bois
vikavolt 🗣️🔥🔥
No
vikavolt is an epic line every pokemon on it has epic potential
Goliso is to throw NGS a Bone + it had shit ton of votes
I always love the mons that break the mold of the typical type
There were a lot of shitty bug types
Mold Breakers, eh?
Game freak too obsessed with the early fast evolving bugs
Golisopod is bad due to its ability
And then this thing happened
Vikavolt 
Not even that, the worst bug types are Volbeat and Illumise
Good thing it’s in this game then so we can fuse them with someone that has a good ability
she is finally real 
Eh I’m still not interested in it
Are we more hyped for heads or bodies
Fun fact, volbeat and illuminise are very likely bc they got last and frogman likes to add the last place Mon in the votes
Body seems more painful to sprite
body
Body
Good that we can change it
- its a no hidden ability mon and that means its likely that Frog gives it a Hidden ability
Could have had cool crustaceans in clawitzer or Crawdaunt
Heads!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Still, I have no interest in it
We’ve won man
Both will be sick
run away 
WE WON! MY BOY IS IN
What if frog gives it slow start
cry about it
Than we cry XD
MY SCAREDY BUG!!! NGS HAS BEEN REUNITED
we need more Gen 5 mon though
i mean, not to sound rude or anything, but people are happy about it so LFG
Can’t believe NGS is real (non goliright sounds)
I can see frog giving Goliso though claws
That would be epic
Scraggy please
if only there was a way we could add 6 at once...
I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING REAL QUICK
I can see frog giving it Run Away
oh and also scrafty
that
Neon Genesis Sevangelion?
Shoutout to all of you, seriously! The peeps who were hoping for Golisopod, even indirectly. I SEE YOU ❤️
And that makes this Chanel hard to keep up with, cus ppl will spam its name in all caps
it took more than a year, but it's finally done
on the plus side, now we don't ever have to see its name in this channel again so LFG
THEY HAVE A MOUTH???
GOLISOPOD!!!
I DON'T EVEN CARE PERSONALLY, BUT OTHER PEOPLE ARE HAPPY AND THAT MAKES ME HAPPY!
a little cowardly bug baby
well yeah what else would that be
I appreciate you so much
Eh I’d rather ppl talk about it here than it be in the game, it’s been funny to see it always come second
I thought the mouth was on the under side
The Golisopod curse has been broken
and i'd rather see Purugly in the game but we all can't get what we want
still happy Goli is in the game
@velvet root Thank you for tagging me LOL
The curse was coming in second, it never won a vote
I've been here for 83 years
golisopod shouldve had to earn the contest win. got off too easy
Well tbf this chat is the reason I’m not interested in it, cus it’s everywhere
I think E Exit should only work if the move that's being used against it is SE
anyway
Eh, that's fine. Not everyone likes the bug. I'd just thriving in the good vibes rn, I'm so excited rn
I want Gen 5 reprisentation now
starters
oh right those
... what about the gen 6 starters
That’s the other reason I’m not interested in pod
Gen 7 bloat
(except crab)
i have to mention crab hate
Does anyone know when the update is happening?
see! its mouth IS on the under side! The anime got it wrong!
They allways say that
maybe after the 500ty pokemon are released
I guess I can’t blame the pod fans too harshly, I’d be like this if Pach got announced
Soon I will show something maybe
Man, where are those NGS sprites, I want to save the picture in rememberance
What an alliance
MY GOAT GOLISOPOD
to complete it
@silk narwhal @median iris
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

ITS NEVER GOLISOVER
gogoated
MY SWEET PRECIOUS BUG KING
craz balls
Dw Zero, next vote I'm going for ya goat boi

Mono golisopod run
it’s miniover 😔
Absolutelyyy
OMG
I could do a NGS run when the update is out!
OHHH
Hof is gonna get flooded with those I’m sure
Golisopod without emergency exit is going to be brutal
We finally got the good ending
No Goliright Sounds 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
Nah good ending is when we get pachirisu
We can give it shit like though claws
New Game Splus
Uhhhh… idk about that
wonder how many people are gonna get it Huge Power
I go random and my starter is double necrozma cuz the other 2 are easy to get
I'm gonna be so real rn Golisopod should have gotten Intimidate as a Hidden Ability lol
why do we need squirrel pikachu 
Now we just need the cosmog line and turtonator and i'll be happy
Turtonator mentioned
But also wimpod is nice and eben thoufh i dont have good ideas for it i know a lot of people were excited about it
I'm really hoping one of the remaining 13 is Zangoose/Seviper
I mean Frogman probably gives him a hidden ability since he does that often with mons that dont have a HA
my guess for who's next:
Spheal line/Lotad line
Cutiefly line
Scraggy line/Pancham line
Binacle line
Cosmog line
👀
Golisopod/Turtonator fusion would go hard
mienshao and lumineon are missing
i hope we get the cosmog line
Good examples is Dry Skin Flygon
golisopod
main ability: emergency exit
hidden ability: wimp out
yet didn't add in HAs for Lycanroc Midnight
He did tho
Ohh that's cool 👀
ho oh has already regenerator in mainline
unobtainable
really?
yeah
but it is
how do you get it then?
HA transfer
dream rader in gen 5, can transfer to 6 and 7
ability patch in gen 8 onwards
or hatch a egg in secret forest and be lucky
Ability Patch should just be added anyway
you could also transfer from the virtual console games in the 3ds
we dont have the code for ability patch, the last time Frog tried to impliment something like it, it kept on crashing the game
that was ages ago though
not anymore since bank is shut down
Bank is still up
Time to get my rest!
huh?
🫡
didn't bank shutdown when all online functions of the 3ds did?
Pokémon Bank and Poké Transporter are the only Nintendo 3DS software, other than the Nintendo eShop, to retain online functionality.
you can still use Bank. You just can't download t
huh
Well
Not without """tools""" atleast
😉
but yeah, any 3DS with PokeBank still on its system you can still use the service
that's cool to hear
See y’all next week
i already transfered mine so im fine either way
Tune next week to get Luvdisc
yee, the generation challenge would have been so over if Bank didn't work
I will be so fucking surprised if one of these makes it in
I’m curious if the rest of these reveals will be weekly or biweekly
really hope for the latter
Cause it’s it’s biweekly we’re not seeing the update for a while 
i can't handle the wait
#1228418864564404255 message Half way there.
Assuming it’s 7 two stages and 1 single. That’s 8 weeks or 16 weeks
Just need Mightyena now.
16 weeks from now is next year 
Hopefully that single stage is Pach
Are there gonna be more announcements today? I kinda thought it was just the one today
hey last time they added like 50 pokemon and it only took from august to like, march(?) to update the game
so maybe with less pokemon it's gonna take less time 
golisopod is already difficult to sprite 
Yeah iirc frog said the update was most done (since it was character customisation) but was waiting for the new mons
This was such a fun little reveal
mighthyena drive the submarine for golisopod but not added with golisopod
Winning
looking at the remaining mons that were offered, all I can really think of
Kinda hoping the remaining slots aren’t gen 7
Tho technically we have more gen 6 in this
they probably are
Gen 3: 69/135 (51.1%)
Gen 4: 63/107 (58.9%)
Gen 5: 45/156 (28.8%)
Gen 6: 30/72 (41.7%)
Gen 7: 20/88 (22.73%)
I really hope not unless it’s like, Tsarena specifically
Tortunator needs a pre evo before i care for it
I got Noibat & Noivern along with Rockruff & Lycanroc. Poochyena & Mightyena are all I want left. The rest are just bonus.
jesus you work fast
How else would they have made +1,800 sprites? 
My only really want is slurpuff
Insane number.
I did this two weeks ago
It's so beautiful
We have a time traveler in the server
Alr I have to get back to studying for my finacc course test but I am just so happy right now y'all. Thanks for the funny memes and good vibes, MY SCAREDY BUG IS INNN and I am THRIVING 
474 and 475 is revealed!??
I thought the mystery mon was Crabrawler at first
cute
I cant sleep cuz of the Goliso adrenalin
well i cant sleep cuz full stomache and to much coffee
Someone is absolutely going to make a General Grievous fusion out of Golisiopod.
The only question is with which Pokemon?
ah the nagotiator could work with genesect or machamp
Machamp?
Same
You really think that?
At the time; can crawl, is Fighting type against sharpedo, Red button for red glove shiny
Well, make sense
Had this mindset at the time
I was thinking that if it was Crabrawler, sure this one punch the glass before the sharpedo attack
yea
Frog should add in Guzma ngl. Make or find a custom Guzma sprite.
It's not a fish you sad excuse of a person
It's an isopod :3
Isopods are basically fish
By that logic spiders are fish
Spiders are fish
isopods are cockroaches of the sea
the difference with gen 3 / 4 and 5 /7 are important
you're closer to being called a fish than an isopod is
so many fish
like, phylogenetically-speaking, and land vertebrates are fish
isopod are prehistoric animal than a fish, humain have more link with a fish than an isopod
there are isopods who live in the sea and some who live on land
also they didn't say it was a fish. they said it was a shellfish
A fish is anything that swims in the ocean and didn't secondarily evolve swimming features 😌
it would still not be a fish as isopods are also land animals
There was a space
then what's the "shell" doing there?
what's more logical? accidentally including an extra space or an extra word?
word of course
do you think there are hints for other pokemons in the reveal of wimpod line?
Wimporb
mighthyena of course and for the other, maybe
Where's the mightyena clue???
sorry, my fault, i was confused because one picture here .
Where's that ss from?
Wimpkid (Wimpod/Elekid) needs to be Greg Heffley
Oh, I thought there's some sheet I'm not aware of
Go ahead and make a request! Some spriter might take it
Where do I do that
Totally a ghost type, because there is no way we managed to surface without that window shattering
Here! Read the pins first to make sure it goes through.https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/703412470038921216
So where do you think we will see these mins in the map?
I'm guessing the dive areas and fishing in one of the coastal cities
What ghost types are available again?
Welp, it finally happened.
they are obviously in sevii island
i keep thinking of an overworld encounter a la pyukumuku for wimpod
Jellicent is the most thematically apt in this case.
"This is Captain Kiwi reporting to you from beyond the grave! Yes, I am dead now. Let's explore the other side, shall we?"
I know
So technically a shellfish
they r shrimp
actually 😌
they're pokemon
~~you
~~
if your saying Isopods are shrimp then also no they are different things
oh right
wimpod/machoke ntm sprite when 
Golisopod+giratina is gonna go so hard
Golisopod+giratina is gonna
gobe so hard to sprite
Today, 474 and 475
Next week, burmy line
The week after, monkeys
Then a Halloween reveal for an October rush ig
Does Golisopod give bug type or water type as the body
That's a really good question I think

Well
Guess head gives Bug
Body gives water... Maybe
I sure hope it does
Indeed
wimpod enjoyers w
Where water type body with golisopod’s defense fused with araquanid’s aqua bubble

you've heard of ice type magikarp but what about
SPICE TYPE MAGIKARP
its getting conquered by britain and then immediately not used
there we are. i forgot the damn space
Bad head body combo, you'd probably want a Mon that raises HP and gets rid emergency exit
This combo just makes it too much of an all rounder
MY BOI IS COMIN TO IF!!!
mayhaps, but the Isopods Golisopod are inspired on is found within the deep sea.
well yes
Which type is it?
Can I have a photo?
cant wait to descimate an entire run with just a golisopod fsuion
Make sure it has emergency exit
i mean, i used him competitively enough in gen 8 to abuse that ability
its not that bad you just gotta know how to get aroubd it
thas the giant isopod right
yep
IF needs to add in three Wimpod sitting around a bag of chips
jes the biggums
Hints that obviously point towards kalos starters
It’s kalos starters
Silhouette that obviously hints towards Golisopod
It’s Golisopod
What the fuck is going on, where is the real frog and who the fuck is this imposter pretending to be him?
I feel like he might be luring us into a false sense of security
loved the fact that people thought the reveal was for the rest of the 15 mons
i am prepared for anything
Is that actually how Cressalia was revealed
😭

ice type magikarp will be the next one revealed frfr
it has so much fusion potential
nah, water type pachirisu for sure.
[𝐄𝐗𝐓𝐑𝐄𝐌𝐄𝐋𝐘 𝐋𝐎𝐔𝐃 𝐈𝐍𝐂𝐎𝐑𝐑𝐄𝐂𝐓 𝐁𝐔𝐙𝐙𝐄𝐑]
but i think they’re adding electric type air balloon shedinja
true.....
[EXTREMELY LOUD CORRECT BUZZER]
didnt even do it correctly
smh
I've updated my tier list of mons I voted for in the last voting thingy (up-to-date with Golisopod's inclusion) 
Terra E Shedinja with Air Baloon for IF !!
exploud in s tier, based
...
3 tier, whatever
Pachirisu at 0 is a capitol offense 😔
I had to manually add Comfey and Clamperl line since it wasn't in the tier list
minor spelling mistake
argument invalid
it’s obvious that i’m gonna talk about minior being in 3 but W vikavolt and gourgeist in 3
Oh hey Golisopod made it in
@unborn frost yes i am gay your point is
I kinda haven't been paying much attention for a while
Wishiwashi, Blacephalon and Malamar at 0 
I have 0 clue how p
Long ago that was
holy shit you can see who put emojis?
I LOVE TYPOS
I'm sorry
yes??
WOOOOOOOO
i don’t talk enought about it, gourgeist is epic fusion potential
pls add for halloween 
Ghost type pachirisu
It was revealed when I was sleeping like a few hours ago
Neat
So these are the Pokemon between Kommo-O and Fomantis?
Seems like they felt bad for Golisopod constantly getting 2nd for everything and put it in
yep
no please not again
Hey guys vote this many reactions over the course of a few hours to reveal the next page
I remember that day, where people got tired of waiting for that bullshit 
Hmm i was wrong, i predicted the pod as one of the latter 15 we'd get
Does this mean gogoat next? 

Hehe yeah, glad to see the system reworked
It did?
Making the number not matter, but rather just the notion of live participation
I didn't really see it
Images were posted on intervals of 5 minutes
I just like, saw a person complain about a Pokemon being added and ran over to see what it was, knowing it was most likely Golisopod 
Not every 5 minutes, but never like on a 3 or a 7
always a time that ended with 5 or a 0
....with exception to the final confirmation announcement of course, because at that point it was done 
One of these days, like only 5 people are gonna interact with the reaction, leading to a failed reveal because we didn’t get enough coconut emojis
imagine there was a reaction requirement but ppl used 20 meme reactions so you couldnt add the actual one
That was the altaria reveal i think
"Welp guys, reveal failed. Guess you're not getting this one."

Yeah
You caused such a commotion that todays pokemon fled the scene!
Guess we're not getting to see it this year. Maybe next year, if we're quieter, we'll get to see it 😉
Nah, that happening would be the day the server would lose it
I do remember the guy doing the reveal receiving so many middle finger reactions, not sure if they're still there
I’m trying this next reveal
No reason not to
||Anyone with a shred of power can delete emotes|| Spoilered to keep the fun alive
I always try to add two
It was rigged from the start
Well I was wrong and I'm perfectly OK with that
Was convinced this was gonna be another Sand teaser situation, but finally getting Golisopod is hype AF
I'm still waiting for Spheal :3
Knowing Kiwi and how things like that are handled
I'd doubt it
Probably all deleted by now
When did that happen?
And who would be so salty to do something like that?
Not salty
Nobody was salty
They were annoyed at most
They spent hours there, racking up reactions for the next page
Only to be met with an even bigger goal of reactions
At that point you can't blame anyone for being pissed off over that, they just were tired and wanted the new Pokemon to be revealed
Glad I went to sleep when I did.
ice type magikarp is in the game now
||ok not until next sprite pack||
That's an ice type Magikarp..?
ITS REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
God the Wimp/Golisopod sprites really don't like the color black lmao
RIP Umbreon and Necrozma fusions I guess
Tried to do a recolor and I just can't get a dark tone to work with the sprites.
Decided to take it the opposite direction and make the shells a light grey. Enjoy, Golisopod lovers.
YES!!!!!!!! GOLISOPOD!!!!!!
Also, interesting that these were the 2 "mystery Pokemon" that were between Kommo-o and Fomantis
Guess they didn't feel like getting Volbeat / Illumise in this party
so that mean frog want to add all the top 3
Maybee
what was the top3 mon?
Slurpuff
Edit: nvm
Or Frog just wanted to throw us off by adding the second place winner instead of the last place winner
oh.
Sorry, the third place winner
wait that's the contest votes
Oh wait ur right
Here's the actual ones
yeah. third place winner was indeed salazzle
Okay yeah second place winner
Yikes...salazzle 
We might get Salazzle, I just dunno if Wimpod / Golisopod are fully indicative of that, since they took the place everyone thought the last place of the poll was gonna get
salazzle! 
I don't think we're getting Salazzle 
IT'S THE LESBIZARD!
Need more Ground Types 
someone showed it earlier today
this guy? #pif-hoenn-discussion message
so we're actually at 70% of all Ground types
'course, we're also at >50% for Fire and Poison too, so
So, more fighting types could be cool..
And some more Dark / Fairy types, too
So they should add Scrafty
Add Spheal
Oh shoot ur right
Yea add Spheal
You could do... a ton of fun stuff with Spheal, methinks
pikachu
I'd say we could get Slurpuff, but eh, I'll wait on Slurpuff
we're just going to end up with 100% spheal and no sprites for its evos
I'm sure some people will sprite the evolutions
Cuz if, chance forbid they go crazy and add Gen 8, then we can get Alcremie, who I like more than Slurpuff
Sealeo will lag behind Walrein a bit though
It's a middle evolution, it's bound to lag behind
✋ i hereby swear i will only sprite sealeo and walrein if the spheal line gets added
i just want slurpuff for all the cool sprites that have already been made for it
That's fair
I need Spheal Team 6
We can do, uh, we can do Beedrill / Sealeo for the Beal image
Beal
mochi
football
also kricketune for more bugs..........
We have more bugs than we do dragons at this point 😔
proportionally?
Overall; Bugs are the third largest type.
bah. proportionality makes a more accurate measurement. dragons are supposed to be rare
Based on this, the top 3 in terms of count are Water, Flying, and Normal
Which makes sense
Most of the dragons are end game content, and are densly packed towards the later part of the game.
10 Dragons are legendaries, and as such are naturally hard to get.
the Salemance, Haxorus, Hydreigon, and Flygon lines are Safari encounters meaning they're packed really close together.
Dragonite is also a safari encounter but is a fishing encounter, though can also be obtained in celedon if you really want it there.
Altaria and Goodra are both locked behind swim and strength.
Kingdra requires the use of a Dragon Scale or level 50. Scale is Battle coins iirc and level 50 is above Sabrinas level cap meaning you need Surf anyway.
That leaves Noibat (evolves at level 48, after Sabrina) and Tyrantrum (Evolves at level 38, before Sabrina. Only Obtainable After Silph regardless) for before the psychic gym.
That also leaves the Garchomp line out, which is reserved for the late post game and is only obtainable from the dragons den.
We do have more bugs than we do dragon types, but I think that makes sense too, considering that there are more Bug-types in up-to-gen-7 Pokemon than there are dragons
Even then, I think we only have 1 more bug-type
Legendaries make up 1/4 of all dragons 😔
anyway I'm gonna go back to my game. I'm just tired of bug types.
...i really should let this go, but what a weird argument?
none of this has to do with absolute number of Bugs vs Dragons in the game. Your complaint is more about how Dragons are distributed throughout (Classic mode of) the game.
when does greninja and the kalos starters arrive?
next update
as for when that'll be 
If we exclude legendaries, the number of dragons is low, otherwise it is about average iirc, despite such a high number of them being in game
This is because the Dragon type is one of the rarest types in Pokemon
absolute or proportionally?
Absolute
And of course, people have pointed out how they're mostly late/post game
That's what the dragon type is made to be
A type found on extremely strong, extremely late game Pokemon rarely
The only types rarer than Dragon are Ghost, Fairy and Ice (including every generation, according to Bulbapedia)
I don't see how any of this is a rebuttal to what I said, though
It makes sense why they're relatively average in number despite so many of them being in game
Your point is that Dragon types are supposed to be rare, and maybe on an absolute scale, they're only like average or slightly below average
But as mentioned, the Dragon types existing tend to be geared towards very late game
So it's pretty tough to find an early dragon
Doesn't help that even if you did via randomiser, a decent number of them are Pseudo Legendaries
Pseudo Legendaries evolve very late
So you're gonna be stuck with a worthless Pokemon in battle for a while
Which I assume is what you'd be looking for if you're paying attention to types in particular
(Unless you got the fully evolved form from said rando)
Personally, I don't really give a shit about how rare a type is
I just vote for what I like
I just checked in. Guess we know the gap mons now
My response was to Pachirisu Girl's complaint about having more Bugs in PIF than Dragons
i said that it made sense, given the proportionality of the two types.
So you're vehemently agreeing
Oh if that's what your complaint was I completely agree
you didn't have to comment about your personal irrational fear
Ofc bugs will be more common than dragons with how the types are designed
yep
I was voicing my opinion
so were we
It's probably part of why it's so bad
Doesn't explain why Psychic is worse
Despite being the most common type among Legendaries and Mythicals
But hey
Probably because psychic is meant to be rare?
because it was too good at first, they nerfed it to the ground, and forgot to rebalance it
You misunderstand
I'm saying that Psychic is the worst type competitively ever
Bug deserves better. It's a core part of the series identity. Bugs literally inspired the existence of the series
Wouldn't explain how Psychic has only been nerfed more and more
Oh I thought you meant lore implications
Even after it became bad
They continue nerfing it
At least they just dealt one massive blow to Normal and left it alone
I wield and brandish my opinion like a weapon
Normal being the best Gen 1 type alongside or even above Psychic
yeah! which is why i find it so weird how bad Bug is as a type!
It did get Psychic Surge and Expanding Force, but that's not enough
Bug has its niche, especially since bug type moves are core to a lot of strategies
With the only common Psychic Surge user not having Expanding Force, and being good off its own merits
Indeedee+ Armarouge is a particularly hated combo in VGC from what I heard
Indeed has expanding force
Mimikyu/Venonat with U-Turn my (other) beloved 😌
Wdym
Said user isn't even in Gen 9 btw
Lmao
Oh Lele?
Tapu Lele is easily the most common Psychic Surge user until it stops existing in Singles
Because it's actually good
And doesn't rely on teammates
Too much at least
The only Tapu that isn't good is Bulu
Like it provides actual value apart from terrain
And that's because of monkeys
and I still had to struggle against Necroetta on mono-Poison
Bulu isn't a Tapu though? The Grass Tapu is Rillaboom
Koko struggles but isn't baad
oh, we're discussing competitive? sounds like time for bed
Jokes aside it's so sad that they can't really buff Bulu without buffing the other Tapus
They can give all of them Grassy Slide 
For example, Bulu gets Grassy Surge? Koko gets Rising Voltage, Lele gets Expanding Force
Sure they can. Just give it Play Rough
I highly doubt that'd be enough
It'd definitely need Grassy Glide
Koko wants a physical fairy move 
Which leads to these problems
Rising Voltage has 140 BP so I think it'd be more than glad to have that instead
(Assuming Terrain)
It would be glad to not have to split its stats apart
Not Neccissarily. Remember how they handled Eleki and Drago?
It ran brave bird and dgleam in USUM
Transistor was nerfed, Drago's ability wasnt
I'd probably pick Rising Voltage over Play Rough
But that's mainly because Play Rough is a fraudulent move whose accuracy refers to its miss rate
Let's make a better Play Rough
The Tapus aren't Boxarts, so I highly doubt we'd get a Zamazenta situation. They'd probably be adjusted with equity in mind like with Eleki and Drago
You mean without right
Luck issue on missing play rough
special attacking fairies get a 95 basepower moves with a 30% chance to lower special attack while physical ones get.. 90% accurate 90 bp with a 10% chance to lower attack..
You try landing the fraud move when it matters most, I dare you
just make play rough a physical moonblast with a 30% attack lower chance bruh
I have
If Transistor was nerfed but Dragon's Maw was left alone, equity in terms of balance is absolutely something Gamefreak can consider with non-Boxart legendaries
Most of my mawiles from my runs have had it
Moonblast is way too strong even without comparing to Play Rough
A lot of go to fully accurate special moves have 90 BP, a 10% chance for a side effect and 10 PP
Moonblast has 95 BP, a 30% chance to lower SpA and 15 PP
Now, I will say
dragon pulse being stuck at 85 with no side effect 
Paralysis, Burn and Freeze from Tbolt, Flamethrower and Ice Beam are a lot more crippling
But like
Then compare it to the 80 BP go tos
Shadow Ball comes to mind
Though, Shadow Ball is on an amazing type
name a special ghost move that most ghosts have outside of shadow ball that is decent
So it being a bit weak is manageable
(that doesnt require a secondary thing, like a status effect with hex)
It could be
I dont remember and honestly it doesn't matter too much
20% sp def lower chance yes
Shout-out to gen 3 shadow ball being physical and dropping spdef
look at kyurems pokemon white dex entry
There was no Spheal reveal today, the King is most saddened.
If the 5% acc diff matters, this matters tok
Since I usually get RNG diffed 
Missing and doing nothing is a lot less impactful than hitting and not getting a side effect
That said, people run Gunk Shot over Dire Claw
cough FOCUS BLAST cough
Big number go hard
I'm happy for Wimpod thought! :D
here's the full list of special ghost moves. 
This stemmed from someone saying Bug was too common btw
Truly an off topic derailing moment
night shade doesnt count
ominous wind is 8 pp and 60 base power
hex is only good with a status effect
the other ones are signature move
shadow ball is really all most special ghosts have
Legendary Signature move
Bad signature move
Situational
Bad signature move
Legendary Signature Z Move
Legendary Signature move
Night Shade
Bad move
Shadow Ball
Deoxys Defense begs to differ 
bitter malice aint bad what
shadow ball gets spammed a lot, though
"Bug type is too common!" The nearly one million unique species of insects:
Nobody is running Bitter Malice over Shadow Ball
2/3 animal species are insects
One of my predictions happened today! Woo! Wimpod
80% of animals are bugs lol
I DO BECAUSE BITTER MALICE IS COOL
H-Zoro is folding to every single attack in the known universe anyways
3/3 insects are insects
In competitive
far too many
no way
there are 1.2 billion insects for every 1 human
please gamefreak
3 whole insects? In my yard? More likely than you think.
give us bacteria or archaea pokemon
just make a game where all of the pokemon are bug type with secondary types
no other types 
We have a bacteria pokemon, it's Mightyena
pokemon arachnid and pokemon insect 
i NEED to have the enemy team keel over dead out of nowhere
I'd love a bacteriophage Pokemon. Maybe if the UBs come back it could be one of those
isnt pokerus a microscopic pokemon actually
We can dream
yes, yes it is
pokerus becoming its own thing would be brilliant
All animals in the pokemon world are animals, even humans are implied on occasion to be pokemon.
it would be pretty cool actually
Here's the real question: how does Pokerus affect Wishiwashi-School Form
forming a visible colony, maybe?
Ditto
smth smth "support type with a fixed lifespan"
i mean pokerus effects your pokemon in pcs even though they are in separate balls (or was it your team?)
We even learn a max of 4 moves: Fight, Pokemon, Items, and Run
in-game, pokerus doesn't last that long
@hexed agate now you gotta make Tropius win 
Obv pumpkaboo is being saved for next month 
Does my washing machine keep Pokerus from Rotom?
so its ability could be fainting within a set limit of turns
in exchange for absurd buffs across the board
setting down "helpful" hazards that benefit your team, maybe
I believe in single stage September (even though it's far from true
)
yes
Am I a blind idiot or is Roggenrola not here
Maybe Pokerus pokemon could have a toxic boost+Regen combo ability?
I sure as hell am not a god
Nine slot November
ability: fuck you
effect: upon swapping in, sets up every single hazard (including steelsurge) at max level (3 layers of spikes, 2 layers of toxic), immediately dies after setting up the hazards
Btw your prediction tier is missing 4 slots
How about a Poison Puppeteer variant where instead of confusing Poisoned Pokemon, poisoned allies get a stat boost?
that wouldnt really work outside doubles because toxic orb gives toxic, not poison
stats are a physical blissey
nah, shuckle but with shedinja health
If Toxic works with Poison Heal
i meant in the way that
I don't see why it wouldn't work here
toxic is worse to have than poison
Oh
idea: pokerus being impossible to "catch", and needing a pokemon of its own to parasitize to be usable
maybe smth based on a petri dish??
badly poisoned doubles in damage every turn iirc
Maybe the Shedinja evo?
fun fact: the only pokemon that can die from hazards are alolan ninetales, amaura, aurorus, snom, and frosmoth
But empty slot in your party after a set amount of time
(in gen 8, because steelsurge)
it'd be similar! wander through tall grass, let your pokemon catch the disease
then the "personality" of the pokerus overwrites said pokemon
Shedinja
and gains control + another type
i meant pokemon with health above 1
And also any chipped Pokemon that isn't wearing HDB
from full health
I like the idea of it using a PokeBall as a host
Poison/Electric or Steel
voltorb, electrode, foongus, and amoonguss are shaking in their boots rn
The cooler cousin is in town
using pokeball-shaped pokemon as its hosts would be
a really novel idea
it wants to spread and be caught
electrode evolution idea: its just sideways
Evil PokeRus
WoW goli got in, finally!!!
deoxys prevo
deoxys-a evo: +5 in defense and special defense 
Good idea: Give it Spore
What I'd like is a Stakeout Pokemon with stats that are actually useable
please give it an ability like Moody, but even more randomized
i need this thing to mutate
every turn
moody but it can actually boost evasion and accuracy again
Nobody's switching out on a Spidops
moody just for evasion and accuracy, then
Moody but it can boost HP
Pokemon with Simple except it can actually do something
and that
Make it shuffle its stats then
swoobat is very usable wdym
maybe it swaps its "highest" stat, depending on the move it gets hit with?
Simple beam my beloved
problem is it was introduced in the gen with sigilyph
Ykw, quoted to be a devastating sweeper in ZU
holy shit
oshawott just fucking died
So only 99% wrong
god I wish hyperbeam was actually good
if it means anything to you, I thought it was already in the game. 
tauros evo with an ability that makes its recharge moves not have a recharge when it kills something
(PLEASE GAMEFREAK MAKE TAUROS VIABLE AGAIN, IM BEGGING YOU)
YES
THIS
hyperbeam if it was pokemon adventures accurate:
THE KING OF GEN 1 IS BACK
I'm finally able to lay back and relax. I'll be fine with anything at this point, cause we got what we wanted after so long
Hyperbeam if it didn't recharge
the children yearn to nuke cities gamefreak
Give Swoobat nasty plot 
no it's not, everything in highly likely = the remaining slots. I only predicted a few pokemon as 100% going to be added. everything in highly likely is above 50% and below 99% everything in doubtful is below 50% chance. and the bottom tier is ones i'm predicting to NOT get in there this time around.
TRUE
There's 14 slots ATM 
yes I just said that highly likely = that. anyone of them could be in the game.
Your prediction tier takes up 10
the Hyperbeam recharge is the only good thing about Truant
12

i'm aware
Well regardless he's missing slots
Hyper Beam recharge takes priority over Truant IIRC, and Truant lets you switch while Hyper Beam recharge doesn't
Three slots
I get what you mean
anyone got a tauros base where hes on his back legs
The real issue is that IF is missing Relicanth
i got an idea
You mean that all the Pokemon in the top tier are ones you're 100% sure will get in
That's still better than what I thought, which was that it only recharged on non-truant turns.
And the missing slots can be filled with whatever is in the lower tiers
Relicanth is a cool dude
I wouldn't mind if he got added
Or something along those lines
There's a couple mons I wouldn't mind having
Maybe it's not based on what you think will happen but instead what you want to happen
(or with his head up_
Reminder: Relicanth is gen 3. I saw someone post earlier that it's gen 5
I hope they also add at least a few legendaries
Like Wingull or Gigalith
Lol
i found one with him on his hind legs i just wanna see if theres on with his head up
Lmao, even
eh whatever i can work with it
Can't even get Relicanth in gen 5
Just like in the real world with coelacanths
They're doing it right
can we get a relicanth evo please
it'll be like the baskulin evo and only be regional 
dont do this to me
Just know that I'm pretty sure Relicanth can outspeed Trick Room
That just means it's post game in the unlisted games 
And that's pretty fucking funny
gotta love 55 speed
He rock polish till I swift swim
She polish on my rock till i swift swim
I was avoiding rule 2 

Swift Swim is truly something
It's Tauros county
These rules are mildly inconvenient
polish
Ah well
You can say it's a drug or say it's on steroids
Oh ok
You just can't delve into the drug topics
TAUROS SWEEP
Just being very careful to avoid breaking rules
"why the fuck are we losing, it's a BULL"
"EURRGHUGHGHHHHH"
Would saying that Gamefreak locked themselves in a lighthouse full of cocaine when adding Caly-S to Gen 9 count as delving into detail
LET'S GOOOOO
Example being like I can see spheal but I could also see a different ice type such as cubchoo instead getting that slot, if anything one of the remaining 4 slots I didn't predict will be an ice type but Idk which one so I put every ice type i think it'll be, into highly likely. @hexed agate I mean if you really want me to fill a slot I can just remove all the ice pokemon from the list and do this instead.
Because that's seriously what it feels like sometimes
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING HES JUST A SPONGE
i make the krabby patties
A little riské for sure
no its just true
Ice would be a cool type to add
I'd not mention the drugs by name outside of alcomahol and smokes (iffy but accepted iirc)
We need ice type tauros 

