pif-hoenn-discussion

[silent acorn]

No weird solutions allowed

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/clodsire-pokemon-cute-gif-2927931057342523944

[silent acorn]

Good solution, Canon solution

[stuck bane]

I’m fine with regionals not being added, but if they are I’m also fine with it since it brings some cool abilities

[silent acorn]

Just a stone

That's enough

[terse fable]

clean the stink off these cuties

[trail hull]

I have a clodsire plush and my sleep quality improved since I have it

[fathom ridge]

alola regionals would also be cool

[molten latch]

I also have Clodsire in my team

[trail hull]

I have one too

[molten latch]

Nice

[trail hull]

I also recruited it in pokemon caffé

[molten latch]

Still, IDK if we will have Gen 8+

Chances are, low.

[fathom ridge]

a big real-size clodsire plush were you can sleep on top of it would be awsome

[terse fable]

def not anytime soon

[trail hull]

there was a way but frog refused and we don't know more

[molten latch]

Yeah

Enough is enough

[trail hull]

it's smaller then me but bigger then my chest

[terse fable]

I think it's possible eventually, but don't see it being the priority over the mons easier to put in, which is pre gen 8

[molten latch]

Ye

Especially Gen 7 have regional variants

[fathom ridge]

the boy is 1.80M

[cunning geyser]

Latias did the reflect type flee again. >:Y

It has 1hp and is asleep. I'm taking a gosh darn quick ball next time. See how it like 1hp/sleep/turn 1 quickball

[inland jewel]

fuse it with prankster and use taunt?

[dark prism]

hello all

do u think we will get more mon announcements this weekend

[molten latch]

I think

But no promises

Havent we talked about Komala?

I dont think anyone ever mentioned this chill marsupial.

[silent acorn]

I have

So have other actually

It's just randos show up on the channel

Then talk about weird stuff like Gen 8+ and pseudos

[cunning geyser]

There!

[silent acorn]

Damn nice fusion

[cunning geyser]

Okay, aside from Raicune and the twins, there are no other roamers, right?

[molten latch]

Yeah. . .

Komala is criminally underrated

Maybe because its not good competitively?

[cunning geyser]

And thank you. It was made to cage and catch the roamers, hence the name

Now I don't need shadow tag, so Breloom needs something with foresight or scrappy.

[inland jewel]

It was disccussed and how in showdown it would instantly be banned

due to its ability

[molten loom]

If you kill Entei before E4 it becomes a roamer

[cunning geyser]

Already got him

I yeeted a quickball and it actually worked

raw

I cackled hard enough to rival gruntilda

[molten latch]

Oh?

I didnt know that.

[stuck bane]

I didn’t know that either, but makes sense, comatose would still be crazy in randomized mode though

[cunning geyser]

What's it do?

I actually can look it up, nvm

I mean, free dream eaters kinda hurts, and wake up slap is easy heavy damage, but yeah

[full bison]

no more burns and you can do crazy stuff with Sleep Talk exploitation

[cunning geyser]

Wait I thought this said immune to non-volatile conditions

Burns and poisons are volatile, arent they?

[trail hull]

posion is volatile but badly poisoned isn't I think

[inland jewel]

sleep talk being priority AND it doesn't use the move it get's PP means crazy exploit strats

balanced due to Komala's moveset

and stats

[full bison]

non-volatile just means it doesn't go away when you switch

[trail hull]

oh

then both poison

[cunning geyser]

Wait so it's immune to para, burn, poison, and frozen?

[full bison]

yup

[cunning geyser]

o h

And I had no idea sleep talk was priority

Okay yeah I see it now

[full bison]

yeah, Comatose sounds just kinda good on the surface, then you see some galaxy-brain guy using it to create a monster

Kinda like how Liepard was the most OP pokemon in Gen 5

cause of how stupidly Assist, Prankster, and Dive worked together

[rain locust]

what sleep talk isnt prio

comatose is broken bc sleep talk + roar/whirlwind makes it 0 prio phazing

[cunning geyser]

I really wish my casual arse understood a word of that

Like a part of me wants to join the showdown club just to watch you guys

[full bison]

Basically Roar usually always goes last but Sleeptalk allows it to be used according to the user's speed stat

Phasing is just when you force the opponent to switch

and this is busted because it makes it so you can just repeatedly force Pokemon to take Entry hazard damage

[cunning geyser]

Roar goes last? Wait since when? I remember vulpix roar always making it a pain to catch

And I know the hazard trick, used to use skarmory for that

Whirlwind spikes

[full bison]

According to Bulbapedia, Roar and Whirlwind were given negative priority in Gen 2

[weak trellis]

in vanilla I don't think komala gets roar or whirlwind (or circle throw/dragon tail) for that exact reason rofl

also makes sense since gen 2 gave it an actual use for trainer battles

since before then it was just to end a fight with a wild pokemon

[cunning geyser]

Hence the vulpix comment. I got so frustrated that the memory lasted until even now xD

[weak trellis]

yea it was super frustrating before gen 5 fixed it

[full bison]

I mostly just remember Komala because absolutely everyone was convinced during the hype period of Sun/Moon that Komala would evolve into something cool

lo and behold, one stage

[weak trellis]

yea it looks like the first part of a line but is one of those single-stagers with a gimmick

[terse fable]

Most single stagers have the look of one imo, komala not so much

[marble meadow]

clauncher would be nice for if or dragalge and u can get creative with dragalge by having just the alge in a fusion or something like that

[full bison]

like I keep saying, the reveal is always tomorrow

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-raichu-alola-raichu-alolan-raichu-raichu-alola-gif-14227213033334056000

[marble meadow]

i say every 2nd sunday starting today

praying for one off them beeing malamar

[terse fable]

yeesh bi-weekly? I hope not

but could be

[marble meadow]

ok time to place some bets who you think has a high change to get in

[humble lance]

stun seed

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/breakdance-of-time-pmd-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-riolu-gif-13361005654725912571

[stuck bane]

Not Golisopod because curse of pod

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/mirror_b-pokemon-pokemon_xd-battle-afro-gif-15350699

[cerulean topaz]

MUSHARNA MENTION

[cunning geyser]

I need any future Ludicolo/Whimsicott to just be Miror B.

[stuck bane]

I KNOW, I may be unova man but even if I wasn’t musharna brings great dream and floral pattern fusions, also it’s an overworld Mon!

[full bison]

Musharna/Bagon dreaming of flying sounds adorable and I need it

[cerulean topaz]

Back when i was first rooting for munna/musharna people said the fusions would be bad and cresselia was better anyways 😔 its nice seeing some love for then now

[full bison]

Was never much of a cresselia fan anyways.

Anorexic Rubber Ducky

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/fatsloth-munnasloth-munna-pokemon-munnasloth-pokemon-fatsloth-vibin-gif-23528693

[full bison]

But with Musharna, the dream mist literally projecting out of it's head allows for way more creative dream based fusions

They can be happy and cute fusions like my Bagon example, sad or bittersweet ones like the inevitable Cubone suffering ones, creepy ones like what can be done with more malicious Pokemon like Spiritomb or Gengar, etc

[fallen loom]

Gengar isn't malicious

[velvet root]

Y so much Embryo hype

[full bison]

People have been hyped about Embryos since they learned about Mew

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-doremy-sweet-trumpet-doot-gif-10978523

musharna gardevoir maybe

[full bison]

Also Reuniclus

[cerulean topaz]

I like pokemon i can draw easily

[marble meadow]

yeah but with some fusions yo can go around it do to fusion ref

[cerulean topaz]

And munna and musharna are really easy to draw

[marble meadow]

also for reuniclus it can be creative too it reminds me of jelo with fruits arms

but if ludicollo gets in i do a mirror.b fusion theme run

[hollow creek]

Weird pig for IF

https://tenor.com/view/musharna-pokemon-gif-24352479

[silent acorn]

Mushy

I miss mushy

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-giovanni-ludicolo-dance-dancing-gif-5320094

this is sad jessies voice actor ded

[velvet root]

Ribbit

[silent acorn]

Gosh

There is two badass Houndoom/Delphox

[velvet root]

Btw first stage and middle starters are done!

[marble meadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVjQ4LHihjw

[glass patio]

hello did they announce ice type magikarp or smth

ok nothing

[marble meadow]

i love the design of ludicollo

[rancid nymph]

BRING BACK MIRROR B

[fathom ridge]

Im starting to think there won’t be an announcement today

[marble meadow]

like i say every 2nd sunday starting today is my speculation but it was not specific stated in announcment if i remember correctly

[cerulean topaz]

All i know is frog replied to me [] and said the next one would be "soon-ish"

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-john-cena-are-you-sure-gif-5783187

[thorny ferry]

"Guys we won't be getting an announcement today"
The goddamn reveal happening at 3:00 am:

[prime dust]

that would be tomorrow

[thorny ferry]

exactly

[tender plank]

you know what, I like betting with myself. i'm so sure that it's today that if there's no reveal until i wake up tomorrow, i will force myself to post a sprite that i've had on my backlog for a while. (note that i'm like really anxious about myself so kinda hoping on that reveal lolololol)

[marble meadow]

i believe in ludicollo

and malamar

[silent acorn]

Oh god Zero why did you pick Miltank for Braixen?

What are you picking for delphox dude??

There is a lot of custom bases for delphox

Nice

[velvet root]

I mean I picked it before someone worse did

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-meme-shrek-good-question-good-question-gif-7176451729184982026

I only know the bases I wanna use

Oh and the base I want to use for Kommo-o

I only know that I maybe use Scoli for Greninja

also the Kommo-o base isnt guaranted use

Welp time to brainstorm while listening to a heart broken playlist

[hollow creek]

I have an idea for galvantula/kommo o that has chargestone armor

[trail hull]

they all look cool

[silent acorn]

Hmmmm what about... Porygon?

Firefox ref?

You know

I be curious to know what Granbull on delphox would be like?

Like a sukeban maybe?

[velvet root]

Ribbit nr 3 ! #1284602180963401800

[fathom ridge]

ok now thats sick

[velvet root]

thx!

Wait a sec
Pory likes Chimecho?

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/james-pokemon-chimeco-team-rocket-team-rocket-pokemon-gif-25051677

They good

[bitter comet]

Whhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn?

When will the reveal happen?

[terse fable]

Neva

[velvet root]

Just added all missing sprites of mine to infinite dummies to check how it is going

[feral bear]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1284600068657385522 New phrog child just dropped

[next flare]

Yes, yes
Very discussion-worthy

[humble lance]

phrog

[marble meadow]

my fav gremlin sableye

[humble lance]

more like
gem-lin

[feral bear]

His starsign is Gem-in-eye

[velvet root]

Omg I just remember that I DO know what my Delphox should be

[humble lance]

it should be the very best

like no one ever was

[marble meadow]

but i need more treasure or gem themed fusion for the new mons with sableye i like them

[white meadow]

Today is the day

[hollow creek]

lets hope

[stuck bane]

The announcement will be Jerry from Tom and Jerry being added to Pokémon infinite fusion

[terse fable]

Or we get

No announcement

And things are sad

[stuck bane]

The reveal will be that there were no 15 extra slots, and there was no 474 and 475 slots, it was all in your head, what you’re saying is crazy talk, gaslighting isn’t even a real word!

[marble meadow]

kekw

[stuck bane]

God I hope it’s not 1 announcement every 2 weeks, that would mean it’s like, 3 lines if they want it done before a halloween reveal, which basically means it’s a 2 slotter plus burmy line and monkeys

Wait

We’re 3 weeks away from October

There’s no way it’s like, Lilligant for 474 and 475, then unova starters the week after, and then unova fossils the week after that right

And then they have time for an announcement to line up with Halloween rush

[fallen loom]

or it could be on Sunday?

[stuck bane]

It could be

But the last one was Thursday

I really thought they weren’t gonna drag it out too long

[fallen loom]

or all at once or 2 or 3 lines at a time

[full bison]

Probably giving spriters time

[fallen loom]

did sprites complain last time?

[stuck bane]

If it were like, idk 7 lines over 3 weeks I feel like they’d say “stay tuned in the coming days” instead of “the coming weeks”

[stuck bane]

No

[coarse karma]

panpour politoed.

[stuck bane]

I mean some are now, but it seems to be like, literally one or two people who don’t want any more Pokémon added in for the next 8 years

[fallen loom]

Panpourlitoed

[sour nacelle]

aw I love the little Acerola curl

[stuck bane]

I am reaching dangerous levels of copium I should leave before it gets worse

Nap time, enjoy the reveal y’all

[fathom ridge]

Whats the body Mon?

[humble lance]

medicham

[full bison]

I'd be genuinely shocked if we're getting the Unova starters this soon after the Kalos starter reveal

Not thinking that's a thing that'll happen

[humble lance]

the unova starters
pansage pansear and panpour

[fathom ridge]

Is there a reason in particular this guy has an assault rifle

[coarse karma]

I love totodile with a gun omg

[humble lance]

gun

[coarse karma]

only pansage i ever made, was a snivy one last year, still needs some work if I ever finish it.

[full bison]

Palworld moment

[humble lance]

gun

[coarse karma]

last year I voted a 0, this year I gave them a 2, cause let's be real they're not gonna win a slot.

Plus the 2 was from before we knew there were gonna be more than two open slots, they made it seem like only two new lines were getting in at first this time around, before adding in 3 new pokemon and then announcing 15 more spaces.

[fathom ridge]

monkeys are 2 for the price of 6

[coarse karma]

Their first stage's body shape all look the same which is why people don't want them.

[fathom ridge]

yeah, it would be funny if they got added someday tho

[high haven]

I thought it was 13

[coarse karma]

there's an extra 2 hidden inbetween fomantis and jangmo-o

dex wise we're missing 474 and 475

[light garden]

I don't think that's in IF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?

[high haven]

Oh you right

I didn't even notice

[fathom ridge]

474 and 475 will be iluminise and volbeat bc frog loves trolling

[coarse karma]

it's cause they don't bring it up in announcements, so it's kinda hidden surprised ig. tho most of us noticed the mysterious gap lol

[white meadow]

Hell chat of today they don't reveal anything I'll be doing the whole togetic dex

[grave jolt]

Any new developments today?

[high haven]

Not really

[grave jolt]

sad

[snow scroll]

if there's 1000 illumise haters, I'm one of them

[fathom ridge]

i would tell you to check the pins but i think the joke is too old now

[white meadow]

Seviper and zangoose

[fathom ridge]

out of the botton 5 mons volbeat isnt the worst one imo

[snow scroll]

if there's 1 illumise hater, that's me

[velvet root]

Nose fox

[snow scroll]

if there's 0 left, then I'm dead

i will hate illumise until my dying breath

[high haven]

God I wish

[grave jolt]

We all know who the real winners should be

[white meadow]

Trust me I'm a snake lover

[fathom ridge]

i think you missed some steps of the copypasta

[white meadow]

If they reveal something it'll be around in 1 hour right?

[fathom ridge]

well tbf the most voted starters got in

[high haven]

I think they're going to hold off on the other starters since we can't get both.

[grave jolt]

we have room for a second starter trio, a 2 slot line like swirlix, and then a 4 mon line like zygarde

[high haven]

Correct

[fathom ridge]

a second starter trio would be weird tho

[velvet root]

Since when is Zygard 4?

[high haven]

Baby, dog, snake & Voltron

[fathom ridge]

baby, dog, snake and man, but baby isnt a pokemon ever i think

[velvet root]

Baby wasnt useable ever

[high haven]

Yes

[velvet root]

Baby doesnt exist as a Pokemon

[grave jolt]

keep forgetting cell isn't actually a pokemon

[velvet root]

Its shown in the anime nothing more

[grave jolt]

that, however, opens a space for a single line pokemon like Pachirisu!

[fathom ridge]

why can we force cosmog to fight but not the green homonculus?

[high haven]

I got it! Just Conkeldurr

[drowsy moss]

or just illumise but no volbeat

[fathom ridge]

that would be weird ngl

[humble lance]

zangoose but no seviper

[fathom ridge]

there are some pokemons that should come in packages

[cerulean topaz]

where'd you get this btw?

[grave jolt]

It's from frog in the pins.

's from last years vote as an early count, as people really wanted the starters.

[fathom ridge]

These are the ones from last vote btw

[unkempt kernel]

Pod won’t be in the 15 I bet

[fathom ridge]

I think pod deserves to finally get a W

[unkempt kernel]

Curse of pod

[steel meadow]

metapod that is

[fathom ridge]

Goli always gets second but it will never ever win anything

[inland jewel]

thats... thats sort of the reason why they're being added

The frog trolling thing

where he adds in the last pokemon of each vote

aka the most hated mon

[fathom ridge]

Next vote I will give the monkeys a 3 to make sure they don’t get last place and get in bc of frog trolling

[humble lance]

gib slazle

[inland jewel]

nah, if its based on EST time (Which frogman is) then he'll do itat 8-9 EST

so in about 3-4 hours IF he does so

[white meadow]

For me it always falls at 0:00 here (in half an hour) or in random hours

But never when it's 2am or more here

[inland jewel]

hmm, well i won't discount 6pm as a good time

but my memory always sees it around 8-9 so that might be on me

[humble lance]

pif needs more dragons

[white meadow]

I checked and it goes from 0:00 to 16~22 pm

[fathom ridge]

That’s actually evil

[inland jewel]

on one hand

[fathom ridge]

Wait are the gun lobsters dragon types

[inland jewel]

We won't have the need to be angry at dragon types stealing the spotlight ever again

[inland jewel]

they arent'

[humble lance]

theyre counterparts to dragalge

[inland jewel]

but they're being bundled because Dragalge counterpart

[tender plank]

they just there bc they swag 'n all

[inland jewel]

but when has being counterparts ever got a mon included

[fathom ridge]

Don’t tell me there aren’t enough dragons to fill the chart

[fathom ridge]

Lilligant should be in with this logic

[inland jewel]

So should Gothitelle

[tender plank]

so should archen and the one i mention too much

so i won't say their name

[fathom ridge]

Well that one we can just kinda put under the rug

[inland jewel]

the logic the man is using is that Dragalge is a counterpart to Clawtizer is due to them bieng version exclusives

[terse fable]

Counterparts not so much but related mons we got that with regis, so not too far of a stretch

[inland jewel]

which, surprise suprrise, is Gothitelle and Renuiclus

[terse fable]

Oh maybe I'm missing context lol

[white meadow]

They're writing at #announcements

[humble lance]

i just didnt have enough dragons

[fathom ridge]

Are you trolling? I’ve been lied to too much

[terse fable]

They are

[civic harness]

Hello again

[white meadow]

[fathom ridge]

[tender plank]

i genuinely can't see if they are bc of this. is this true

[fathom ridge]

True I think it’s just impossible to see if they are writing

[inland jewel]

look at the text bar for a bit

and what do you see

in this channel i mean

[fathom ridge]

I see it above the part were I would write

[inland jewel]

Yee

Thats how some people know

[fathom ridge]

I think the little text is just a cryptic at this point, has there ever been a confirmed sighting?

[terse fable]

I've seen them typing in #announcements before so it's real lol

[inland jewel]

yee ive seen them typing in there

[cerulean topaz]

Ok question because i forgot, were shelmet and karrablast connected on this vote? I remember last year they werent and i thought that was strange since they werent just counterparts but had to be traded with each other to evolve.. as if they fused elements with each other when traded

[tender plank]

no

even though they should have

[cerulean topaz]

Yeah they 100% should be a pair if zangoose and seviper are a pair lol

[inland jewel]

its like how Drampa and Turtonator aren't connected either

[fathom ridge]

How would those evolve in IF?

[full bison]

I imagine Shelmet and Karrablast will have their evos changed to not be dependent on one another

Especially if they aren't a package deal

[velvet root]

One more starter to go!

[fathom ridge]

Do Bisharp

[tender plank]

i think that's a BIT different case as i don't think them 2 are connected in any way in the pokedex entries as i am reading them, so it makes sense why they're seperate. but shelmet and karrablast have as much a confirmed relation as seviper and zangoose does! they should've been paired up!

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-maybe-possibly-might-be-perhaps-gif-15643771

[white meadow]

They ain't revealing nothin today

[fathom ridge]

You are a non-believer, when the frogman comes with the new Pokémon you shall not rejoice with us

[molten loom]

If frog was typing it would look like

[tender plank]

ah

[white meadow]

There's a horror movie called frogman 😭

[tender plank]

waiting for this is a horror game

[fathom ridge]

This has the same energy

[velvet root]

Nah Luci gets a special version without that specific reveald mon

[tender plank]

and whenever frog just shows up randomly too ig

[cunning geyser]

Weather Trio aquired

Legendary collection going really well with Duskloom

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-umbrella-stand-pardon-me-oh-im-sorry-gif-17124395

[velvet root]

Talking about the devil
The Frog is online

[terse fable]

Frogman

[humble lance]

dont worry guys i fixed it

[full bison]

I'd be down for that

[velvet root]

Its a Unova mon
So it should be level 60 or so

[molten loom]

What if you had to fuse it with a Karrablast to evolve it

[terse fable]

Yea around lvl 90 n it's good

[velvet root]

or lvl 101

[fathom ridge]

gamefreak why does pawniard evolve at level 52 like wtf

[velvet root]

I saw a explanation video somewhere that talked about Unovas Ecosystem

[full bison]

Also why did you give an evolution to a Pokemon that evolves at level 52 and was already really strong

[velvet root]

Cuz why support weak forgotten pokemon

duh

[fathom ridge]

Kingambit does look epic tho I love when it does its things and destroys OU

[alpine rune]

Idk I like kingambit so I can't complain

[velvet root]

Idk im not a fan of the designe

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/kingambit-pokemon-anipoke-angry-slash-gif-14820177674225012411

[fathom ridge]

The only problem is that it is sitting

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/kingambit-kingambit-horizons-gif-11343100130751931572

[velvet root]

Thats the thing XD

[hidden relic]

byo whaddup gamers

[fathom ridge]

I love Kingambit but bisharp is still my favorite Pokémon

[terse fable]

Hey gordo

[full bison]

I just love how Bisharp was considered mid in Gen 5 only for the addition of Fairies and being basically unaffected by the Steelnerf made people realize "Hey, this guy's actually amazing"

[humble lance]

tfw ur havin a rough day

[fathom ridge]

Gordo do you know what the new mons will be

[full bison]

Everyone except gamefreak apparently who still thought it needed an evo

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/vip-top-gun-tom-cruise-its-classified-gif-5436361

[alpine rune]

It do be like that

[velvet root]

OH
I know too
It actually is the [REDACTED] line!

[alpine rune]

One of them is chimeco, pory told me ||(lie)||

[fathom ridge]

I don’t except him to share one bit of info but I want to know if he knows

[velvet root]

Would love that

[humble lance]

whats a chimeco
is it related to chimecho

[fathom ridge]

It’s a type of industrial printer use for Lego stickers (lie)

[alpine rune]

Yes, it's just built different

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/chingling-pokemon-benzenildo-hungry-for-another-one-amarelinho-gif-6688652946798774871

[full bison]

Clearly we're getting every remaining starter except Emboring because that would be 3 slots too many

[velvet root]

I wonder why there is part of the Little nightmares rap as text

[velvet root]

• am i the only one who hears something that isnt there with the screaming robot one

[alpine rune]

I hear like a comically loud gong instead of a bell

[full bison]

I hear various screaming memes

[unkempt kernel]

Wait…9 + 6 is 15….thats means we’d could get another starter trio and….oh no…the monkeys…

[velvet root]

Cant wait for the screaming fusions
"Each time it hops, it makes a ringing sound. It deafens foes by emitting high-frequency cries."
"It emits high-frequency cries that people can't hear. Once it starts, it can cry for an awfully long time."

[unkempt kernel]

(Waste of the 15 tho)

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/ahh-scream-loud-grito-gif-10730423

[full bison]

the monkeys are either getting added in one of the games last updates, never at all, or as a troll

[thorny ferry]

chat is this a W or L list

[full bison]

I think it's neat

[fathom ridge]

I think as a troll is very likely, maybe next April first

[tender plank]

it's.
uh... interesting...?

[unkempt kernel]

L no squirrel

[fathom ridge]

Is missing vikavolt but I don’t see to much wrong in it

[full bison]

Rare Lumineon fan spotted

[fathom ridge]

Buffalant Afro fusions would be cool

[thorny ferry]

I 100% want vikavolt but 15 slots are too little

[full bison]

No judging, it's just rare seeing it get attention

[humble lance]

bouffalant spotted hell yeah

[thorny ferry]

bouffalant would be amazing

so sad that it doesn't get much attention

[fathom ridge]

You are too weak to do what has to be done

[full bison]

I just want Mienshao, Musharna, or UBs. That's about it.

[fathom ridge]

this is my list/prediction

[thorny ferry]

based ngl

[humble lance]

i want

[thorny ferry]

rare tropius fan spotted

[velvet root]

I dont like to splitt Ludicolo and Shiftree
They are a duo for me

[full bison]

I don't wanna imagine what the sprite channel would be like if Salazzle got in. I heard about the Goodra horrors

[humble lance]

splits ur lotads and seedots

[fathom ridge]

change salazzle for ribombee, lilligant or golisopod bc i dont want to deal with that mon

[humble lance]

booooooo

coward

[velvet root]

use it as a head

[humble lance]

let her in

[fathom ridge]

tropius is cool tho, banana dragon and meganium bf

[humble lance]

bonana

[fathom ridge]

thats true the colour scheme is fire

[humble lance]

so is the pokemon

[thorny ferry]

quite literally

[fathom ridge]

this reminds me of the sad fact that there isnt a potatoe pokemon

[humble lance]

yet

[thorny ferry]

there isn't??

victreebel is close enough

[velvet root]

make it Grass/Poison and throw its berrys as explosiv poison ammo

[humble lance]

hm idk about that chief

[fathom ridge]

doing a potatoe pokemon on an ireland based region would be offesive? probably

[full bison]

As much as I don't like his theories, I feel like Lockistin designed a pretty enjoyable Potato themed Pokemon for his fan region

[humble lance]

potato should be electric type

[fathom ridge]

trueee

[velvet root]

nah German

[humble lance]

and based on those potato powered things

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-german-flag-germany-trikot-gif-12218101

[fathom ridge]

oh thats also a good time to do it

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/potatoes-gif-18364984

[velvet root]

I really wonder how a German region and Pokemon would look like

[thorny ferry]

victreebel is def a potato

[velvet root]

Even more with our fucked up myths and fairytales

[fathom ridge]

wtf no it is a trap plant

[thorny ferry]

a germany-based region would be fire

[thorny ferry]

I'm aware

[velvet root]

Also Poison type regional Polteageist as beer would be hilarious

https://tenor.com/view/beer-german-celebrate-party-gif-19757311

[molten loom]

Anything could be a potato if you do that

[cerulean topaz]

If there is at least. One bug type added. I will be happy

[fathom ridge]

idk if beer would be allowed in a childrens game

[thorny ferry]

game freak doesn't have the balls to add beer sadly

[molten loom]

We had beer in this

[velvet root]

They just say its a potion that makes you dizzy

[fathom ridge]

yeah but this isnt really official or for profit so who cares

[humble lance]

found the one i was thinking about

[velvet root]

smart

[humble lance]

this ones cute

[full bison]

I found the one Lockistin made. Pretty similar concept

[fathom ridge]

does this silly guy evolve?

[thorny ferry]

that's exactly what a potato would say

[molten loom]

My secret is out I got to run

[fathom ridge]

oh i love that digglet

[cunning geyser]

Okay, break for today. Pokedex completion is going to take some time, but at least it's slowly making me learn more fusion tricks.

[velvet root]

I search german fakemons now

[cunning geyser]

[humble lance]

probably but im not seeing any evo designs from the artist

[fathom ridge]

damn

[humble lance]

potat

[velvet root]

I nearly find nothing

only a youtube vid

https://youtu.be/G1_e1CMHCKc?si=b2q66gZ87cxR7U0v

[humble lance]

oo

[velvet root]

Sadly its nearly all Regional forms
Some new mons would have looked good

[stuck bane]

This is what I’m sayin! Even 1 slot of bug type would get them past 50% and on par with everyone else

Anyways dang even after a nap nothing

[cerulean topaz]

Im obviously biased. Towards gen 5 bugs. Especially crustle has such good fusion potential. But all bugs are good

[stuck bane]

If it’s biweekly what will reveals be until November like necrozma?

[cerulean topaz]

I love wurmple but i know thats not going to happen any time soon

[full bison]

I've had a concept for a Pokemon in a Canada inspired region that was a mix of an earwig, a whale, and a sea serpent based off of Ogopogo, but I have little artistic talent so I have no idea how to get that concept onto paper

[stuck bane]

Literally all the gen 5 bugs don’t miss, Gen 7 has some cool ones too, but Gen 5 I’m also (obviously) more bias to

[full bison]

Almost all the remaining bugs have something neat to add

[cerulean topaz]

Im very biased towards gen 5 in general

[stuck bane]

You and I are gonna get along wonderfully

[full bison]

Gen 5 is peak and I won't hear otherwise

[stuck bane]

Hey

[cerulean topaz]

I dont even really know how it happened since my "first pokemon game" was pokepark

[stuck bane]

Watch this

Musharna: it’s already an overworld mon, can make dream fusions, floral pattern fusions, and you can get one extremely early since it’s a moon stone evolution, also serves as an amazing head with good hp, special attack, and special defense, only psychic type with access to defense curl, and the only non-legendary psychic type to learn lucky chant naturally

[cerulean topaz]

But pokepark 2 was gen 5 and you could play as the gen 5 starters and that was fun

[stuck bane]

Boom

Pokepark was fun

[full bison]

I'd love to see a Musharna/Clefairy fusion dreaming about having never lost the mascot role

[stuck bane]

A bit childish but playing as Pokémon was cool

[cerulean topaz]

My nickname has been this since last year i have been rooting for their addition for a while

[full bison]

Pokepark minigames were great

[cerulean topaz]

It is childish of course but when i had no handheld gaming consoles pokepark was my best bet

[stuck bane]

I think I made these lists after the reveal of meloetta since we only got like 7 slots?

[cerulean topaz]

I played the pokemon rumble demo also but never had the game

[stuck bane]

Wait I thought original rumble was free

Or extremely cheap

[velvet root]

I need a Pokepark 3

[cerulean topaz]

Yes.

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokepark-cofagrigus-pikachu-gif-24160983

[cerulean topaz]

Didnt have space on my wii 😔

[stuck bane]

F

[full bison]

So many spinoffs deserve another entry. I want another Conquest

[velvet root]

Also its a awesome game for bases and to see canon movement of some pokemon

[cerulean topaz]

Yeah it just felt really fun

[cunning geyser]

Same, just maybe tone down the 'replay the same thing but different faction'

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokepark2wonders-beyond-pokepark-pokemon-cinccino-cinccino-pokemon-gif-18470139

[stuck bane]

I still have the holographic poster of this though

Gen 5 had some banger spin-offs like conquest

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/mareep-gif-12375302353214096110

[full bison]

Ah yes

Wooloo if it was creative

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/octillery-pokemon-pokepark-goofy-ahh-gif-26323914

[stuck bane]

I never said it but I’m glad someone did

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/swadloon-gif-25713366

[full bison]

Mood

[velvet root]

Man I love this game

or well both

[cerulean topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/sewaddle-pokemon-excited-skrunkle-gif-25582239

[stuck bane]

I have more memories of the first Pokepark, but still liked the second

[stuck bane]

This needs to be posted if leavanny gets in

[cerulean topaz]

The second pokepark had less minigames which was sad but it had more of a plotline

[velvet root]

The first one was legendary too
The second was a little short with it having way less minigames

We need a third one that has the cool plot and the fun minigames that lets you use your friends

[stuck bane]

Too bad Pokémon never goes out of their comfort zone anymore

[full bison]

I can't find a gif of Golurk turning into a cannon in Pokepark 2, and I'm so upset cause that was epic

[stuck bane]

PLA kind of did but…

[cunning geyser]

I want another game headed by Genius Sonority

that isn't Mobile

[velvet root]

Pokepark helped me to proof that Zoroark runs on all 4s and Scolipede still rolls

[cunning geyser]

A new Colloseum/Gale would be fantastic

The art on Cafe is cute but like....it's still the same trap almost every mobile puzzle game is.

[stuck bane]

Why did Gen 8 end up the way it did when we had Pokepark

Anyways no reveal gonna check on dog again

[inland jewel]

you should look up the guy whose turning BDSP into Colesium

[cunning geyser]

Wait what?

Absolutely lookin' that up

[glass patio]

[outer matrix]

nothing yet

[tender plank]

I think I'm starting to lose hope

[full bison]

it's always tomorrow

[tender plank]

damnit, then i'll lose the bet I made on myself

[inland jewel]

watch it be after the Kalos starter contest ends

[glass patio]

when is that

4 days

[humble lance]

[glass patio]

probably just the deadline for submitting sprites not when the winners get announced

[fathom ridge]

GUYS CHECK #announcements ||there’s nothing||

[proud lion]

||Channel was gray already so it didnt fool me||

[fathom ridge]

I can’t wait for when the channel lights up and it’s a completely unrelated announcement (again)

[humble lance]

woah new announcement
its a new portuguese channel

[fathom ridge]

There’s a Portuguese channel already

[humble lance]

theres a new one

[stuck bane]

They made a Portuguese 2

Now that’s a lot of geese

[fathom ridge]

I can’t believe they made Portugal 2

[humble lance]

portugeese

[fathom ridge]

Next international channel should be an obscure tribal language spoken by 4 elders that are on the brink of death

[stuck bane]

The reveal will be Dora the Explorer being added to infinite fusion to celebrate the addition of the second Spanish channel

[humble lance]

tsareena
to celebrate russian channel

[glass patio]

i have notifs turned on for announcements

and they announced español 2

[stuck bane]

It won’t work didn’t you hear they made an announcements 2

[fathom ridge]

Do Pokémon have different translated names in Russian? If so, what’s tsareena called?

[humble lance]

they dont

theyre basically the same as english names

[fathom ridge]

Ñ detected, respect

[glass patio]

they announced unown Ñ form https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1284314623897632768

[zealous lichen]

darn I was hoping for an announcement today

[humble lance]

heres the russian names if ur curious
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Russian_Pokémon_names

[terse fable]

feel it's safe to say we're not getting one today

[outer matrix]

what about unown é?

[fathom ridge]

There should have been a Ñ unown in paldea

[zealous lichen]

having them take a slot to add unown to the region would have been disappointing though

[fathom ridge]

Unown is kinda cool, we haven’t seen unowns being native to a region since gen 5? Or were there some in gen 6?

[zealous lichen]

not sure

im glad they didnt include them though and have the game really focus on technology and not ancient magic and such

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/ruins-of-alph-gif-26181619

[zealous lichen]

this is cute

I love omynite

[fathom ridge]

Alph ruins were cool

[terse fable]

Pokemon movie with unown is probb one of my favs, the whole movie was just fun

[outer matrix]

technically in Hoenn with the mirage caves (Gen 6), but idk if that counts

[terse fable]

also trying to cope with most likely no announcement

[zealous lichen]

the second one has a special place for me

[fathom ridge]

I need to see vikavolt in all caps in the announcements tab

[glass patio]

true

[zealous lichen]

I think Charjabug would have so many freaking fusions

[fathom ridge]

Do you mean freaking good

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/charjabug-car-rumble-gif-9630811

pffff

[glass patio]

but if we’re being realistic unown has enough forms- oh wait spinda exists yeah add unowns for everything

[glass patio]

Charjabug 🗣️🗣️🔥

[zealous lichen]

that too but it would be one of the ones where it would have a complete dex I think

[fathom ridge]

Regional variant unown that’s numbers

Dark type bc numbers are evil

[glass patio]

why 😔

[terse fable]

More Unown would be so freaky, but I'm down long as theyy're a diff typee or dual type ig

[glass patio]

a whirlipede/charjabug fusion would be epic

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/lurantis-gif-25238732

cmon guys get castform

[glass patio]

Nah they should stay like visual changes it’s just stuff to collect which doesn’t affect gameplay

[terse fable]

so we can hug both

[glass patio]

best middle stage bug types

and would make an epic car

https://tenor.com/view/charjabug-pokemon-gif-8679000

[humble lance]

yippee

car

[terse fable]

bugs are good

[fathom ridge]

I love my car battery

[humble lance]

[glass patio]

wait lmao

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/dewpider-araquanid-pokemon-anime-gif-2945633070994456466

also water spidor

[fathom ridge]

The vikavolt line would be sooooooo good to have, it’s 3 for one!

[fathom ridge]

All alola bugs are goated

[humble lance]

https://tenor.com/view/victorious-car-battery-meme-gif-25219423

[glass patio]

vikavolt’s also my second fav bug type

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-vikavolt-charjabug-gif-9816156

yee they cool

[fathom ridge]

There is no vote anymore so this is useless but hey

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-charjabug-sophocles-gif-9708030

all of you

lol

[fathom ridge]

Yes, any problems?

[humble lance]

[terse fable]

😂

[glass patio]

the whole line is awesome

[fathom ridge]

Vikavolt line is the most efficient new Mon, its three completely different mons that have unique great potential

Like other mons have pre evos that are just them but smaller

[stuck bane]

Ignore this need to check something:

[terse fable]

dam whippin out the chart on you

it's over

[stuck bane]

Oops all bugs:
Leavanny 3
Escavalier 2
Accelgor 2
Durant 1
Crustle 2

So all unova bugs cost 10

Alola edition:
Golisopod 2
Buzzwole 1
Pheromosa 1
Vikavolt 3
Ribombee 2
Araquanid 2

And all alola bugs cost 11

We can’t get all of both, but even one of either would be bangers

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/heatmor-pokemon-gif-26640368

If we get durant I want heatmor'

[agile olive]

didn't someone make a base based on this

[fathom ridge]

Crustle and vikavolt are my favorites in both lists

[stuck bane]

They deserve to be counterparts, nearly all their dex entries mention eachother just like Zangoose and seviper

But ah well, frog gonna frog

[agile olive]

there's a joke alt for I think doduo/weepinbell because it looks like a potato

[terse fable]

and both 1 line mons like zang/sev

[fathom ridge]

Heatmor is just worse macargo, we should have gotten Durant first

[last pecan]

team saturday in shambles rn

[terse fable]

Team Sunday gettting ready to go?

[stuck bane]

Idk why they gave only heatmor a unique signature in Gen 7, but it’s giving him a fighting chance here

I guess everyone will eventually become team sunday if not tonight

[last pecan]

im team Monday

[stuck bane]

I was team Friday

[stuck bane]

Don’t let Garfield catch you slippin

[last pecan]

i should figure out when all the announcements were last year

[fathom ridge]

Wait heatmor isn’t in IF!

[stuck bane]

It’s not

[terse fable]

ded

[thorny ferry]

That's a crazy coincidence, I literally made the main sprite of doduo/weepinbell for team encounter some days ago

[stuck bane]

I thought it was usually Fridays or weekends

[fathom ridge]

Tomorrow there has to be an announcement, right?

[stuck bane]

Surely it must be tomorrow

[terse fable]

one can hope

at this point I'm thinkin Monday and if not that, the weekend

[thorny ferry]

I'm telling y'all, the reveal will be tomorrow (except it's gonna be 2:00 am)

[stuck bane]

No but I’m not coping because they’re taking so long because they’re adding on unova starters as a bonus and all the colors turned to white and nobody uses light mode so it’s black and white checkmate liberals

[thorny ferry]

Solid reasoning

[terse fable]

or maybe black and white

[stuck bane]

I’d cry if it were biweekly because it’s gonna be like, 2 reveals, all UBs plus cosmog line or something

[terse fable]

cause of da zebra

[stuck bane]

If we’re completing it before a halloween reveal

[last pecan]

im BEGGING its released before next week

all the event runners will be in shambles not being able to line up their themes with new reveals

[stuck bane]

We are 3 weeks away from the start of a halloween rush and a potential new reveal there

[terse fable]

If it's biweekly I'm gonna be dead yea, the waits are gonna feel like agony

[stuck bane]

It’s already crazy

[last pecan]

but the weekly events

like Pokedoku and things

[stuck bane]

[last pecan]

smhsmh

[stuck bane]

Why look at me I’m new Pokémon discussion guy

[last pecan]

frog said "next few weeks" and then goes silent for one

[terse fable]

He meant next few months guys, typo

[last pecan]

if he comes back and says like "sorry gang i got in a car accident" im gonna feel very bad

[terse fable]

I get it now

[stuck bane]

Cause, he would’ve said “coming days” if it were like, 7 reveals spread out over 3 weeks

[stuck bane]

He was fine yesterday but….

[last pecan]

frog i miss you frog 😔

[grave jolt]

Thought you were the Unova guy?

[stuck bane]

Do you see me in any channels besides this? (If you know you know va)

[proud lion]

He had frog audio today before it was deleted

[stuck bane]

Ye I heard about that but never heard audio

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/frogs-anime-sad-frog-gif-25356025

froggg

[last pecan]

this has gotta be to create some kind of big, fun reveal

[terse fable]

we need u

[last pecan]

its gotta be

i may be coping

[terse fable]

yeye hopefully

[stuck bane]

Basculin

[fathom ridge]

Well he is online right now so there is a chance he is observing this ||hi frog||

[stuck bane]

We all coping

He was def silently lurking yesterday

[last pecan]

frog if you are reading, you should let me decide the next entry right here and right now, because you love me so

[stuck bane]

But also I think if you leave your computer on it could show as online

[cerulean topaz]

Yeah he def lurks here since i got jumpscared by it before

[terse fable]

He was tracking the mon mentioned most that day as one of the 15 to add

[stuck bane]

Same, mine was castform question.

[fathom ridge]

I agree if you ad vikavolt, else is unfair

[last pecan]

WRONG

minior

[stuck bane]

Both have things to add to infinite fusion

But I do lean minior

Sorry Azul

[fathom ridge]

Well I do like Minior, but it’s still unfair

[terse fable]

I'd have to lean vikavolt then

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/basculin-fish-flop-pokemon-anime-gif-5391386002298953918

[fathom ridge]

Fair tbh it has crazy head potential but vikavolt is just cooler

[last pecan]

the great Minior vs Vikavolt war is coming

i feel it brewing

[fathom ridge]

I already have a war with eelektross

[terse fable]

LIGHTNING BUG

[last pecan]

the server will divide into Team Minior and Team Vikavolt

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-legends-arceus-pokemon-the-pokemon-company-nintendo-an-antique-gif-25074890

[fathom ridge]

What is this from?

[grave jolt]

the gif search

[stuck bane]

I think they did YT shorts of Pokémon or something

[grave jolt]

No clue, just thought it was funny

[terse fable]

The lost episodes lol

[feral bear]

pls dont make me pick between vikavolt and minior guys, they r both S tier 😭

[grave jolt]

If I had to pick?
Nah, I'd win.

[last pecan]

choose

you must

it is the fact of the land now

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirusu-gif-25491343

[stuck bane]

I’d have to choose Gen 5 bugs

[terse fable]

LIGHTNING BUG

[stuck bane]

Clifford the Pachirisu moment

[terse fable]

Minior is a FREAK

[last pecan]

minior for life

[terse fable]

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-thunder-discharge-gif-24418155

[last pecan]

pachirisu b tier addition

[grave jolt]

Blue lightening though

[last pecan]

rotom

[terse fable]

Okay tho but Drampa

best boi

[last pecan]

blue lightning has never been an issue smhsmh ive done plenty for Voltorb

[grave jolt]

Rotom lightening isn't real lightening 😔

[stuck bane]

If we’re all just spamming favorites, I’ll throw my hat in the ring

Lilligang rise up

[last pecan]

incorrect answer

[terse fable]

ew

[stuck bane]

This means war

[twin phoenix]

I can't think of what Pachirisu can add beyond a squirrel tail and food hoarding.

[last pecan]

minior has many new things, the rest are shrimply small compared to the might of minior

[stuck bane]

I’m notifying the members of Lilligang in a callout post on twitter right now

[twin phoenix]

And maybe Garchomp slaying.

[last pecan]

which would be more fun with skwovet

[last pecan]

[stuck bane]

Erm, hoenn bias much? (Also frog confirmed castform was 4)

[grave jolt]

alas, no 8+
Pachirisu good 👍

[last pecan]

4??

[elfin forge]

When?

[last pecan]

for Minior?

[grave jolt]

4???

[stuck bane]

Oops meant to say castform

[twin phoenix]

Minior is getting in and taking 4 spots? Huh?

[stuck bane]

But yes

[last pecan]

oh

[twin phoenix]

Oh.

[last pecan]

i choose to ignore that

okay then Spinda instead, ez

[stuck bane]

I choose you are irrelevant

[twin phoenix]

They're all different types, so it makes sense.

[terse fable]

castform goated tho

so lik

ok

[grave jolt]

thought that was about Castform lmao

[last pecan]

smhsmh if Rotom is 1, why is Castform 4 smhsmh

[stuck bane]

It is…

[twin phoenix]

That is a good question.

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/castform-gif-26745714

smak

[last pecan]

castform being 1 would be so much better for fusions smhsmh

[grave jolt]

anyway, it actually will take up 8 slots.

[last pecan]

ground types as sandstorms or poison as gas clouds

[stuck bane]

Rotom will be 6 soon, let him get his forms coded

[last pecan]

oh no,,,

wait

what if

what if those are some of the new additions

[terse fable]

I mean frog could be trollin

[last pecan]

oh no

[stuck bane]

Those can still work, but I think slots hold all data of a Pokémon, including stats and typing, UN proved we can’t do that in 1 slot

[grave jolt]

Minior, Castform, and Spheal

[stuck bane]

Uh let’s see, 5 rotom forms, 3 deoxys forms, 1 giratina form, I don’t think aegislash will count

[prime dust]

none of them will

[last pecan]

i dont doubt rotom

theyve discussed it

[stuck bane]

Lemme pull up the oricorio reveal

[grave jolt]

can we please get Deoxys since its forms have different stats?

[last pecan]

no one will like it, no one, but it will

[prime dust]

i mean older mons

[grave jolt]

D-Speed used to be banned to Ubers (think it still is)

[last pecan]

from an artistic standpoint, deoxys, giratina, and rotom having different forms is IMMENSELY limiting

[prime dust]

frog said he has no plans to give forms to older mons already in the game

[prime dust]

that is the main reason why

[last pecan]

"okay, now make a thousand Lawn Mower fusions"

[analog stag]

So uh would Pumpkaboo get 4 slots too? All of its sizes have different stats

[stuck bane]

Also to confirm oricorio was a kiwi pick and not a frog one

That rumor was also circulating around

[analog stag]

Yes all the pumpkins have unique stats lel

[prime dust]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1279938076797440062

[analog stag]

So it’d be 4 slots too

[last pecan]

it was a kiwi pick yeah

[prime dust]

that suggestion thread goes over it more

[last pecan]

i still think Castform would be better as a single form

[analog stag]

Actually more like 8

[last pecan]

Castform is more like Rotom then Oricorio

[prime dust]

but given the statement for aegislash, i can guess it would also apply to other mons already in the game

future additions won't have the same restriction

[last pecan]

there is no Base oricorio, but Castform and Rotom have clear base forms

[grave jolt]

there's no base aegislash 😔

[last pecan]

technically Baile is i think but its still Baile form not just "Oricorio"

[stuck bane]

Just because Aegi doesn’t work doesn’t mean any others won’t. I think stuff like Pumpkaboo line will be 2 slots, but since it’s just size changes spriters will only use the first 2 dex slots and the others will be “blank” spaces only to hold the pumpkaboo/gourgeist different stats.

[prime dust]

again not factoring in mons not yet in the game

the statement was more directed to pokemon already in; i.e., rotom, deoxys, giratina, aegi

[last pecan]

imagine seeing theres 500 pokemon and seeing that 492-500 are just Pumpkaboo and Gorgheist

[stuck bane]

There’s no reason they couldn’t go back. I agree making separate form for giratina that spriters would have to make is absurd, but make a second blank slot to hold giratina origin’s stats, spriter’s keep using whatever giratina’s current dex number is, and giratina’s current dex number of sprites applies to both forms

It’s literally just to get origin form stats in the game, that’s it

[elfin forge]

IF's remaining mons if Frog was based

[prime dust]

eh i think we need at least one legendary in the 15

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/zygarde-perfect-zygarde-zygarde-perfect-pokemon-pokemon-xy-gif-6971736008687605923

[elfin forge]

If I had to pick a legendary it'd be the life & death duo

[stuck bane]

Yeah I’m not saying this time, but yeah eventually origin form giratina and rotom forms, even if it were only stats/typings, would be very welcome

Complete Zygarde or victini would make a perfect number 500 though. Could also see it being nihilego or a troll pick like Alomomola

[last pecan]

this is the batch i think is most likely to get in, Croagunk can also be Drilbur or Cutiefly ngl

[grave jolt]

C-Zygarde at 499 and Victini at 500

[stuck bane]

I’d love it, but I think it’ll be one or the other

[last pecan]

Nihilego would be so hype for me considering it almost got in years ago, and would then open UBs up

[stuck bane]

Remember starters are basically treated as legends with events needing to be coded for them, last time we got 2 (barring exceptions) and I really couldn’t see more with less slots

[last pecan]

adding Nihilego would add ultra-space shenanigans, and then more UBs can be added

which i think would be hype

[stuck bane]

Nihilego or guzzlord would make most sense as they’re UBs without counterparts or duos. I’d personally lean nihilego but guzz is cool too

Anyways Sunday reveal gang out (god I hope)

[last pecan]

Nihilego definitely ngl, i feel like its more the Figurehead

also frog has made clear he does not care about not having counterparts

(Sharpedo, Solosis, Cottonee)

[twin phoenix]

Praying Gothitelle somehow beats the odds. 😭

Praying to the Almighty Frog~

[weak trellis]

then again it's not like main series does either with some pairs. (looks at stunky's encounter rates compared to glameow's)

[rancid nymph]

TBF, stunky is a far better Pokémon

[last pecan]

i genuinely believe the most likely UBs are Nihilego, Kartana, and Stakataka

[rancid nymph]

IDK, last time Nihilego fused with something, we couldn’t fight it

[full bison]

Nihilego has so much cool design potential but I'm worried a bunch of those sprites would just be Ctrl+C Ctrl+V-ing it on top of everything

[grave jolt]

<1% tbh

UBs will prob come all at once

[full bison]

The glassy look is amazing and I desperately hope it doesn't get overshadowed by it being a parasite

[last pecan]

i mean,, we, we dont need Cellasteela

like ever

[full bison]

Celesteela is SUPER feast or famine fusionwise

Stuff like Celesteela/Machamp could be cool, four massive rocket arms sounds rad

And Froslass/Celesteela lines up alright too

[nocturne fulcrum]

guysis eternamax eternatus in pokemon infinite fusion

[full bison]

but those proportions are insanely awkward

I love Celesteela too, i just imagine it's super difficult to work with

[stuck bane]

Me when pinned messages

Technically all the UBs are difficult for spriter’s to work with, or so I’ve heard

[rotund charm]

remix mode

whats this

[stuck bane]

I think it’s basically what modern mode used to be

[full bison]

true, but I feel like a lot of those are a lot more rewarding. Xurkitree has it's whole wire aesthetic, Kartana with it's origami theme, Nihilego can make things all glassy, Blacephalon is super colorful, Naganadel can create interesting takes on Pokemon biology, etc

Celesteela's rocket motif, while interesting, I'm not sure how much it balances out with it's odd proportions

Even as a head, Celesteela's head is super tiny relative to its body

[terse fable]

Guzzlord tho

[snow scroll]

subtract the spheal evos and we're good

(replace with sawsbuck, castform, and diancie)

[elfin forge]

They wouldn't fit though

Deerling and Castform alone would be 6 slots

bc Castform's forms would all take up a slot

also Diancie's just redundant imo

we already have Carbink and I've been very vocal about how much I dislike that mon's inclusion

[gray vine]

lul it wont, there is no difference there outside the color, so at most minior takes up 2 spots

[full bison]

Carbink and Diancie have different enough vibes for me to be OK with both

[copper aspen]

think more laterally

Carbink and Diance have very different designs but share a similar theme

[stuck bane]

I never said UBs wouldn’t make awesome fusions, I think they all will, I’ve just heard their designs are difficult for spriter’s to work with for the most part is all

[copper aspen]

implementation is probably one reason ultrabeasts aren't in the game yet

[stuck bane]

If ribbon has proved anything, Carbink and diancie will have VERY different things going for them, from what I’ve seen at least. Same typing and gems, but that’s where the similarities end

[elfin forge]

They also float and are heavily related

[full bison]

Carbink is a lil guy, Diancie is a pretty princess

[stuck bane]

I think they always could’ve been implemented (I think nihilego was a contender for the “final” 420 slot but stunfisk took it?)

[full bison]

Slot 420 was always gonna be a meme

[stuck bane]

Eh, if we’re using the floating argument technically any fusion that isn’t Diglett or hippowdon doesn’t touch the ground either since sprites stay on a static area

[gray vine]

i think you added the wrong person

[elfin forge]

I meant that they're floating rocks

[gray vine]

i was talking about the minior thing

[copper aspen]

yes

oops

[stuck bane]

And heavily related, a lot of Pokémon have that, but are also different, like heatmor Durant and sev zan

[elfin forge]

And Carbink/Diancie aren't really that different

[full bison]

they're still different enough that it's OK to include both

[stuck bane]

I’d argue they are, vastly more different than plusle and minun

[proud lion]

So no hints this week

[full bison]

that's like complaining that we include all parts of an evolution line instead of just the final form

[stuck bane]

I don’t think diancie will be this update since we literally just got Carbink, but I’d like to see it in the future, but one can dream though

[stuck bane]

Does not seem so, Sunday is really our last possibility unless it’s a weekday for some reason

[elfin forge]

True

[elfin forge]

Diancie's just a taller, fluffier, pink Carbink with a different head

[stuck bane]

Is diancie fluffier?

[full bison]

I'll be genuinely surprised if we get a single Pikaclone for a long while aside from Pachirisu

[elfin forge]

Yeah she has that little dress thingy

[full bison]

And all of those features give her a different vibe. Would you say Charmander and Charizard don't deserve to be in the game together?

[elfin forge]

That's completely different

they're part of the same evo line

[full bison]

it's the same

Diancie and Carbink are tied together

[stuck bane]

Ignore color swaps only image I could find on Google

[elfin forge]

But they aren't actually part of the same evo line

[inland jewel]

they are too similar imo

[stuck bane]

Neither are counterparts and they’re still related

[inland jewel]

anything that diance wants to do Carbink can do

[elfin forge]

I didn't say they were counterparts

[stuck bane]

Carbink and diancie have dex entries mentioning eachother so they at least have an argument of counterparts, which in this game isn’t set in stone

[full bison]

Diancie has a princess motif that Carbink lacks. Lots can be done with just that

[stuck bane]

Ribbon is proof of this

[elfin forge]

Yeah, I mean fair enough I guess. I just still don't see why Diancie should be added. Just my opinion

[stuck bane]

I should save ribbons chart

Would make these arguments a lot easier

[elfin forge]

Can't you do a princess motif with Gardevoir or Hatterene? (If gen 8 gets added of course)

[stuck bane]

No but Gem princess motif on any Pokémon is wild

[full bison]

Hatterene is more of a witch than anything, and Gardevoir can be all sorts of things. it's kinda generically feminine

[stuck bane]

Garde could do it with Carbink or sableye, but diancie expands the options way more

[full bison]

Only Pokemon that I can think of that also has a princess motif is Steenee, and even then mostly because it evolves into Tsareena

[elfin forge]

I mean, yeah. Fair I guess

I'd much rather Tsareena than Diancie

[stuck bane]

All Pokémon have reasons, even luvdisc (and surprisingly even silvally has a mechanical reason)

[elfin forge]

I didn't say some pokemon didn't have reasons

I just think some have better reasons than others

[stuck bane]

Yeah but they’re still reasons to be added nontheless

[elfin forge]

I know that

[inland jewel]

Hate or like it, someone's favorite pokemon is a pokemon

[stuck bane]

My dream is all Gen 7, but that’s mostly for true randomized mode

[inland jewel]

like even if the Monkies are the most hated existences ever, someone is gonna be a fan of them

[elfin forge]

I'm not saying y'all can't have a favourite

I'm just saying my own opinion

[eager quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-murray-perhaps-i-could-be-of-some-assistance-assistance-gif-7242871

idk i sort of interpret diancie as being more princessy. carbink feels more just pure carbuncle which is why i went for this for my carbink head

ik bink bodies are controversial but i figured theyd focus more on the crystals on the bottom. diancie i'd rather draw the dress

[inland jewel]

people can still make Carbink fusions have a gem dress

[grave jolt]

Alr I've beaten Mono Fariy, gonna go for my dex rush

[grave jolt]

[elfin forge]

I mean, personally I'm just thinking of variety. I like getting mons of different body types. I'd rather get something like Heatmor or Durant over something like Delcatty. We don't have any ants or anteaters but we have a good amount of cats already

[inland jewel]

and the cat i want isn't in the game

[elfin forge]

we can't please everyone. I'd really like to see Huntail but I really doubt it's ever going to get in

[stuck bane]

Oh you’re gonna love unova then, anteaters, flying squirrels, meerkats and prairie dogs

[grave jolt]

there's 15 cat pokemon in the game. 8 are legendaries, and 4 are house cats.

that's pokemon btw, not lines.

[stuck bane]

Does liepard count as a leopard?

[elfin forge]

We don't have those in IF