pif-hoenn-discussion

[hot hamlet]

Dis was the lazybones to the straight man in their act

All his mons were named after food, and he preferred relaxing over doing stuff

[stoic canopy]

…so sans and papyrus?

[hot hamlet]

Actually yes. 100%

[stuck bane]

Huh, maybe I’m thinking of platinum, just a kid who was like “let’s keep battling forever”

[cunning geyser]

Damn it why did you make me notice that

[dark prism]

I'm actually interested in reading the B/W2 manga though, because of what they do with Rosa/Whitley or whatever

being a former plasma grunt and all

[hot hamlet]

Platina Berlitz was the spoiled rich kid

[cunning geyser]

Okay that. That sounds good.

[hot hamlet]

You may be thinking of Sapphire who was all about the battling. Or Red

[dark prism]

yeah like this synopsis sounds interesting

[cunning geyser]

So the gen 5 manga is worth hunting? I have a few people I know that I can probably get the scans from.

[stuck bane]

I never read BW2 manga but former plasma grunt does line up with the games so

[dark prism]

yep yep it's cool to see it delved into more

[cunning geyser]

Side note, Saph is the best and so is Ruby

[hot hamlet]

Led by Colress? Wow. He got a promotion in the manga

[cunning geyser]

They are equally perfection

[dark prism]

they're so good

also why did Ruby vs Norman go so hard when that happened

[cunning geyser]

RIGHT?!

[hot hamlet]

Also so much better than the other names I saw for them.
Lack-Two and Whi-Two

[stuck bane]

No it was definitely DP, at the end the kid threw an oran berry at giratina or whatever and literally said let’s battle again. Maybe I’m thinking of one that wasn’t the adventures manga

[dark prism]

daddy issues the fight

but it was badass

[hot hamlet]

Or I’m confused as I read those… over 15 years ago…

[quartz shell]

I think you meant this guy

[cunning geyser]

And really showing off that Ruby chooses not to battle

[quartz shell]

if we got Corviknight I would be tearing shit up, artistically

[stuck bane]

Yeah but it’s not tandemaus or ogerpon, pass

[dark prism]

ikr sounds like he's important lol

[cunning geyser]

~~ I am the only person who doesn't like Corviknight~~

[stuck bane]

It’s aight but

Not a 3

[stoic canopy]

I never read like any of the manga. But I do know like half of the characters are like former bad guy teammates and that’s a really cool idea.

[cunning geyser]

Not really?

[dark prism]

I'm sure there are people who don't like it simply because it's a popular mon so doubtful

[cunning geyser]

I just prefer Skarmory

[stuck bane]

Yeah skarm did it better in my eyes ngl

[stoic canopy]

It’s fine, I like the Pokémon that skins them to make a hammer.

[full bison]

Hot take: Wooloo is the most generic addition to the Pokemon series since Gen 1's "Just an animal" days

[stoic canopy]

^

[cunning geyser]

Uh. Flamigo.

[dark prism]

I like skarmory better too but also corv looks like a raven and I think that's sick

[stuck bane]

Tinkaton is def above corv if I had to choose, tink is def a 3

[hot hamlet]

Nah. But they did make the gym leaders bad guys.
Indigo E4 were genocidal maniacs on par with Ghetsis.

[dark prism]

I kinda agree yeah

[cunning geyser]

What

[hot hamlet]

Wasn’t BW the one where they had the leaders crucified?

[dark prism]

yeah I was gonna say this

[cunning geyser]

Flamigo exists

[stoic canopy]

Flamigo is also a boxing glove that that’s kinda fun

[stuck bane]

Yeah e4 in adventures manga of RBG was insane

[cunning geyser]

Wait is it?

I never saw it as a punching glove

[dark prism]

yeah true flamigo exists

[hexed agate]

I wouldn't say on par with Ghetsis, but pretty up there

[dark prism]

again I've not played scar/vio all the way so

I'm less up on the gen 9 mons

[cunning geyser]

Yeah I just can't see it. It just looks like a flamingo with no n to me

[dark prism]

but wooloo is pretty generic tbh

[stoic canopy]

The two wings are the place you put your thumbs and the neck is where you put your wrist.

[cunning geyser]

Oh wooloo is generic, I dont argue that

[dark prism]

I can def see where they're coming from

[hexed agate]

Herdier

[dark prism]

I like dubwool

dubwool is cool

[dark prism]

oh yeah

dog

[stoic canopy]

The art has it facing its side towards you to sell the illusion.

[dark prism]

I kinda like herdier's color palette at least

[cunning geyser]

Lance was actually just nuts

[full bison]

It really annoyed me back in the days of Palworld drama when everyone was calling Lamball a Wooloo ripoff when they're both just generic cartoon sheep you'd see just about anywhere else

[dark prism]

Lance was a fuckin problem lmao

[hexed agate]

You mentioned the P word

You fool

[dark prism]

same but there was a lot worse cringe behavior taking place in my opinion lol

people straight making things up

[stoic canopy]

THIS! Oh my god so many people comparing two wolfs and trying to clam Palworld copped a wolf

[cunning geyser]

Okay legit question because people were dancing around saying Lovander earlier. Is Palworld like a banned topic?

[dark prism]

uhh we talked a little about lovander the other day

[stoic canopy]

I think so long as you don’t get weird about it.

[hexed agate]

Not banned, but it's a hard topic to not get people arguing

[dark prism]

I think the reason people dance around it is cause of rule 2

lovander specifically

[last pecan]

yea there were some pals that were 100% ripoffs, but some were stretches

[cunning geyser]

Obviously lovander is problems, but the game itself seemed to be divisive

[hexed agate]

[full bison]

Verdash moment

[dark prism]

well people do like to defend their multi billion dollar corporations

[cunning geyser]

I mean the one blue goat is just cobalion

[full bison]

literally green Cinderace

[last pecan]

smhsmh pory more like piggy oink oink copper

[cunning geyser]

Hell most pals are basically 2 or 3 pokemon fused

[stoic canopy]

Mhmm. Those poor billionaires

[dark prism]

yeah I mean you can see inspiration and derivative in palworld but nowhere is that bad wrong or illegal

plus it's been like what a year? and I haven't heard much of anything about nintendo looking into legal action since

[hexed agate]

Nothing to do with my blue neck beard, moreso it always devolves into "game bad! Destroy! Pokémon supremacy"

And the opposite

[full bison]

Nintendo definitely would've done something by now

[last pecan]

there was that one stolen asset iirc, like polygon for polygon primarina's hair

[cunning geyser]

Honestly, I wish Palworld had stayed huge and stolen more money from TPC and Nintendo

[dark prism]

if they clap harmless fangames that aren't even for profit the moment they came out then yeah

[last pecan]

i think they were just made by AI that took pokemon as the resource

[cunning geyser]

They need competition

[dark prism]

they definitely left it alone on purpose

I think people just finished playing the game tbh

like palworld wasn't really intended to be as big as it was so they didn't have loads of content ready

[last pecan]

the main gimmick being the shock value, and then that wore off

[dark prism]

but I heard the last update was good

[stuck bane]

OK, the wooloo Lamball argument has zero weight, sheep rolling down hills is a Mother Nature thing, literally look up “how to flip over a sheep” there’s videos on YT it’s so common

[stoic canopy]

They undoubtedly look to see if they could sue them but they didn’t find anythin.

[cunning geyser]

It is! I just get tired of playing alone.

[dark prism]

yeah I'm sure they tried lol

[cunning geyser]

Palworld is definitely better with at least a small group

[stuck bane]

The last update was amazing, but somehow messed up single player worlds so I’m waiting until that’s fixed to return, but I love it

[stoic canopy]

Unfortunately Pokemon doesn’t really own the concept of monster capturing.

[full bison]

I respect the heck out of the Palworld devs for calling out the industry obsession with constantly high user numbers

[dark prism]

ahh gotcha well that's good to hear

hope they fix that part soon tho

[stuck bane]

It still hits like 200k daily or whatever right? Those are still impressive numbers that was above their initial expectations

[dark prism]

I think people have an obsession with calling games dead these days

[hexed agate]

They released it so raw tbh, if there was more game beyond just "controversial wave-riding" I think it'd be better received

[cunning geyser]

Okay but no joke- if you guys ever want to have like a side palworld thing at any point when there's downtime, I would love an excuse to play again.

[last pecan]

yea but it kinda fell out of the cultural zeitgeist i mean

[full bison]

"If you aren't playing the game anymore, that's fine. We just hope you enjoyed your time with it."

[dark prism]

when they really are not at all

[stuck bane]

Wdym unfortunately would you like them to have a monopoly?

[dark prism]

something can only stay relevant for so long

even pokemon go

like people moved on

people still play it

a lot

but are people talking about it? not really

[stoic canopy]

Oh, that was a poor attempt at sarcasm. Sorry

[dark prism]

I got the sarcasm dw lol

[stuck bane]

There is a ton of game beyond that, that’s why it has so many concurrent players even to this day despite being unfinished

[stuck bane]

Oh all good

[cunning geyser]

Text is a poor conveyor of tone. That is why I make liberal use of some of discord's chat commands

[full bison]

Pokemon GO is a live service so that's par for the course

[cunning geyser]

It helps add nuance.

[hexed agate]

True, just not enough for me, personally (at least at the time of release)

[last pecan]

i think big waves of popularity are great

[stoic canopy]

Eh I’m on my phone ATM kinda hard to use all of that

[cunning geyser]

As am I!

[dark prism]

well yeah but what I mean is that those are the games that have the highest retention rates and even those drop off and become "dead" in between when big updates happen

[last pecan]

if you get a million people playing your game for a few weeks, many will stay with it after it "falls off"

[dark prism]

so comparing other games that aren't live services to that is silly to me

[last pecan]

Lethal Company is a great example

many people still play, and its still getting updates

[dark prism]

also I think more developers are starting to realize how oversaturated the live service market is now

[cunning geyser]

I have lethal company, and as soon as I installed it my friends stopped playing.

[last pecan]

its just not the game anymore

[dark prism]

you can't play them all, not enough time in the day

[cunning geyser]

Big angy

[stuck bane]

That’s fair, and many players are also waiting for an official full release to jump back in, devs themselves have said “enjoy other games while waiting for us to complete this” and I think that’s awesome, so I’m doing as they say and I’ll be a loyal palworld fan (unless they keep doing weird stuff with skins like what’s going on)

[hexed agate]

Yeah

[dark prism]

ahh yeah I had friends like that before, annoyed the hell out of me lol

[cunning geyser]

Okay the skins would be great if they werent this time gated come join our streams thing

[dark prism]

I remember when among us got big I was on vacation and my friend group at the time got hooked on it and played it like every day when I was gone

[stuck bane]

Unpopular opinion content warning is more fun than lethal company, but I still respect lethal company for making an awesome game

[dark prism]

and when I got back they all completely burnt out on it

[cunning geyser]

M O O D

[dark prism]

didnt wanna play it anymore

I was so mad

LMAO

[last pecan]

content warning is fun for the theater kid friends

[full bison]

Amogus is a game that's straight up only good in a friend group

Online rando matches have so much BS

[last pecan]

most of my friends arent performers, so like they have no interest in content warning

[hexed agate]

That's valid, Lethal Company just sort of pioneered the genre in 2024

[dark prism]

I'm not really a big uhhh online roleplay kinda guy

at least not unironically

[cunning geyser]

I don't really play online competitive stuff with people I don't know well

[stuck bane]

Wow it was a 2024 game? I could’ve sworn it was 2023, time flies

[last pecan]

lethal company really started the "horror games are more fun when theyre funny" idea

[cunning geyser]

Im not competitive by nature and getting ridiculed and mocked...doesn't feel great

[last pecan]

or at least boosted it immensely

[dark prism]

tragedy and comedy are two sides of the same coin after all lmao

it almost makes too much sense

for it to have taken this long for someone to land on it right

[stoic canopy]

The only games I’d play even kinda competitively is soulcalibur and for honor.

[stuck bane]

I used to be super online competitive, but after I finally left and did more single player it helped me immensely with being way more chill

[dark prism]

stuff like silent hill kinda did this tho

like with the fake endings

[full bison]

Man, me mentioning Palworld sent this conversation in a crazy new direction

[dark prism]

also the SH3 costumes on replay

[last pecan]

also proximity voice

prox chat is great

[dark prism]

proximity chat is a lot of fun yeah

[cunning geyser]

Like- the reason I don't touch showdown is because I will never beat someone that's even mildly competitive.

[dark prism]

see you say that but so many people on showdown are TERRIBLE

LOL

[cunning geyser]

I am very much a "play with who you like" over "play with strong pokemon"

[stuck bane]

Needs to be said, I love palworld for giving me the Pokémon game I’ve always dreamed of, and I’m hoping gamefreak can step up to the challenge and reclaim my trust

[dark prism]

like they use the good mons and still suck

[stoic canopy]

Yea showdown feels way too sweaty for me.

[cunning geyser]

So someone with no tactics mashing buttons with a club would easily beat me

[dark prism]

I enjoy making tryhards mad on showdown because of how predictable it is

[full bison]

I'm partially a "Play with who you like" Guy, but also my top 2 favorites are Naganadel and Volcarona.

[dark prism]

like you do one kinda non standard tactic and you're probably getting called an insult

[cunning geyser]

The legends series are almost everything I've wanted

[dark prism]

god forbid you do any stall

I had people before invite their friends to come in and watch the match and dog on it lmaoo

[ember bear]

peak

[dark prism]

real

[cunning geyser]

You're highlighting why I do not want to play

[dark prism]

yeah I mean you can always just ignore chat lmao

[full bison]

"Stall requires no skill!!!" They scream as they use a hyper offense team that does nothing but click the Super Effective move over and over

[ember bear]

just do randoms

[dark prism]

I just find people babyraging over online pokemon to be really fucking funny

[ember bear]

no need to teambuild anything 🔥

[dark prism]

right lmaoo

[cunning geyser]

So cards on the table, you guys seem like the sort I wouldn't mind dunking on me. You're at least fun to chat with. At least seem pretty nice.

[dark prism]

oh boy it's another hyper offense team

how exciting

did you use life orb this time?

how about AV

lefties?

thought so

[cunning geyser]

I dont even know what lefties is

[dark prism]

leftovers

[stuck bane]

I liked legends arceus, but palworld showed me how low I was setting my expectations for $60, since palworld was only $30

[cunning geyser]

Oh!

[dark prism]

yeee

[cunning geyser]

AV....assault vest?

[full bison]

yup

[dark prism]

I accidentally exposed myself as a comper

no normal pokemon player is referring to leftovers as lefties

[cunning geyser]

But I like my assault vest swampert. It lets me not get clowned by some brainless AI if ice punch doesn't ohko in campaign.

[dark prism]

AV Swampert is a classic

[cunning geyser]

Wait that's a thing?

[dark prism]

yeah!

ever since it got access to ice punch to begin with AV became a popular choice

[cunning geyser]

I just didn't want to get blasted by some one off grass type

[full bison]

AV Swampert with Flip Turn carried me through Blueberry academy

[cunning geyser]

I FORGOT FLIP TURN

Dammit!

[dark prism]

flip turn yeee

good ass move

it being physical makes it even better for pert

[cunning geyser]

So, my swampert I still have is no joke from the Ruby cartridge I got when I was 9

So I love her so much

[dark prism]

aaah I wish I still had my old mons

I'd have ones from ruby too if I did

[cunning geyser]

It's only her. Not my old gardevoir or Manetric

[dark prism]

back when I was too young to give pokemon coherent nicknames

lmao

[cunning geyser]

Kipps.

Her name is legit kipps

[dark prism]

kipps the swampert

[cunning geyser]

Yup.

[ember bear]

(meanwhile i still can't come up with decent names)

[dark prism]

I'm terrible at names even now

but as a kid I used to sometimes just spam letters on the nickname screen because I was bored

[full bison]

That's a pretty endearing nickname. Sounds like something Gamefreak would nickname one of the trade Pokemon

[dark prism]

then once I got a little older I never nicknamed my pokemon at all

I didn't actually start nicknaming until I did nuzlockes

then I understood the appeal behind it way more

[stuck bane]

I’m sure I might have some mons all the way back from sapphire, but they’re stuck in SM since Pokémon bank is a scam, after swsh I stopped caring and mostly just do nuzlocke runs now, my love has mostly gone to the perfect pals I’ve Bred up in palworld

[cunning geyser]

Let me see, now I have Gulliver(Pelipper), Titania(Gardevoir), Aurora(Lapras), Charybdis(Red Gyarados), and Tiamat(Dragonite)

[dark prism]

yeah I mean part of it is just how many pokemon there are

at some point it becomes harder to care about logging all of your specific ones when you know you can probably find them again in the next game

and if you ever do lose them due to some bs

[cunning geyser]

I took ages getting a perfect frostallion noct...only for the server to be disbanded. Big angy.

[dark prism]

then you definitely not gonna care after that lol

at least not as much

[cunning geyser]

Learning that breeding system took so loooooooong

[full bison]

If you got a hold of Bank back during the Eshop's dying days wou could've circumvented paying

[unkempt kernel]

[stuck bane]

But that was always the unspoken agreement I felt, yeah pokemon was never a contender for game of the year but we were fine with less graphics as long as we got to keep our favorites with us to the next. The moment that stopped, I didn’t care anymore

[cunning geyser]

Which is valid, but I am one of the...ugh I hate saying this but it's true. I am one of the people contributing to the problem

[dark prism]

it's similar to how a lot of people felt when they couldn't transfer to gen 3

[cunning geyser]

I never vote with my wallet

[dark prism]

I know they lost a lot of people cause of that back then

[cunning geyser]

I am absolutely a pokemon whale. Minus mobile or live service stuff

[dark prism]

people had their red/blue teams still

[marble meadow]

but eh for my country the announcements are in the night

[full bison]

Gen 9 did kinda justify the whole Dexit thing to an extent thanks to Tera electric Shedinja and Revive Cats, but it does still suck

[dark prism]

to be honest I've never really been in the position to be a whale for a thing I like so it's hard to say if I would if I could but probably not with pokemon, I'm attached to pokemon but not overly at this point in my life

[cunning geyser]

Tangent: I hate terastalization

I hate it so much

[stuck bane]

I think it wasn’t swsh that my love died, it was USUM, I hadn’t even realized it released because I had drifted away so much, and a friend who loves Pokémon more than me said he literally couldn’t bring himself to pick up USUM ever again, and that’s when I vowed to stop playing.

Then of course good reviews of PLA gave me hope and I foolishly decided to get SV thinking it would be similar quality. I enjoyed it, but man $60 was not worth it, especially after palworld

[dark prism]

i think tera is cool but it scared me away from gen 9 competitive lol

[trail hull]

I never nicknamed mon until sv because mystery dungeon made me attached to it

[dark prism]

I'm just like that sounds like a complete mess

[dusty arrow]

people who complain about tera in competitive wouldnt last a second with dmad

dmax*

[prime dust]

that is only useful in nuzlockes for maxium

[stuck bane]

Tera is a cool concept but the giant hats are silly

[dark prism]

dmax sucked too yeah

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-emotional-damage-steven-he-emotional-damage-gif-23428142

[marble meadow]

cant wait for the other legends game

[stuck bane]

I can, I want it to actually be comparable to palworld

[full bison]

Gen 9 competitive is scary as a whole TBF. It literally powercrept itself.

[dark prism]

I didn't bother much with gen 8 competitive either because dmax is just not a fun mechanic outside of presentation

[ember bear]

i complained about both 👍

[cunning geyser]

At least Dmax gave you a 3 turn limit.

[dark prism]

was also less risky though imo

[marble meadow]

bro imagine how op a few of the new mons from za will be maybe they even come with new abilitys

or moves

[cunning geyser]

....I'm biased because Lapras became my temporary team ace

[stuck bane]

I’ll wait until I hear it’s good, then I’ll consider it, otherwise like PLA my expectations were set way too low

[dark prism]

like sometimes with tera I can see you having to make a choice between using tera or not depending on how the battle is going but with dmax it's like... ok when is it ever a bad idea to do it if your back is up against the wall

[cunning geyser]

Hello free aurora veil

[full bison]

LA moves are already broken, can't imagine how crazy it'll get in ZA

[dark prism]

to be honest I haven't been a fan of like any of the exclusive battle mechanics for the past 3 generations

[cunning geyser]

So, I liked USUM for one huge reason

[dark prism]

Z moves caused a lot of problems, I don't like dynamax, and tera is cool in concept but I'm not crazy about the presentation of it and also it sounds like a mess

[cunning geyser]

Unique Z move animations

[ember bear]

megas are peak!

[dark prism]

absolutely

[stuck bane]

I didn’t hate zmoves, but they def felt like a downgrade from megas, but I understood since they wanted to make all Pokémon good

[dark prism]

I can't wait to see what they do for the next legends

[full bison]

Megas are interesting because they're either a well deserved buff or hilariously busted beyond repair. Sometimes, like with Mawile, it's both!

[cunning geyser]

Oh mechanics wise Z moves were meh, but some of the animations were so cool

[dusty arrow]

live kangaskhan reaction

[dark prism]

yeah and some mons did benefit but for the majority it made strong mons even stronger, or it just became about wallbreaking with your most powerful Z move

[ember bear]

(sometimes they even make the pokemon worse)

[stuck bane]

Twinkle tackle, emphasis on some

[full bison]

CHALK moment

[dark prism]

Z move animations were cool but I also tired of them because oh my god the cinematics are so long and you can't speed them up

[outer matrix]

Then there's twinkle tackle

[cunning geyser]

Splintered Stormshards

[dusty arrow]

that was only one
which was sadly garchomp

[cunning geyser]

Lycanroc's

[dusty arrow]

gamefreak, give mega garchomp dragon dance it would be so funny

[dark prism]

sometimes you have situations where the mega has a different application than the normal form and isn't just a straight upgrade too

which I really like

[marble meadow]

i guees za will have some evos for old mons and some kalos forms

[cunning geyser]

Megas made me able to fully run lopunny and mawile, among others

[dusty arrow]

i heard that totodile will be one of the starters

[dark prism]

mega johto starters should happen please

[dusty arrow]

which im hoping for because feraligatr is peak

[dark prism]

oh my god yes i hope this is true

totodile is my favorite water starter

my son

[cunning geyser]

And give Kipps swift swim for maximum thwomp.mp4

[cobalt river]

very excited for ZA megas+kalos my beloveds

[dusty arrow]

feraligatr is just my favorite starter in general

[dark prism]

feraligatr is awesome

[full bison]

All I want from ZA is Mega Kalos Starters. It's absurd that wasn't a thing when they were introduced, and I also think it's why Ash Greninja went bye-bye

[dark prism]

my favorite water type is totodile tho

[cunning geyser]

Feraligatr is also a huge one I love

Just- just lemme ride on his shoulder

[stuck bane]

Yeah between PIF and legends ZA (assuming it’s earlier release over later) Kalos fans are eating. We’ll have to see gameplay of ZA to see if they’re eating good though

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/feraligatr-gif-26949616

[dark prism]

this is great because I love the gen 6 dex but I also think kalos is incredibly boring as a region

[marble meadow]

i guess november january a za trailer or a mini direct

[full bison]

XY were super dull

[dark prism]

pokemon zaza trailer

[stuck bane]

Mmmmmmm yeah I can see that

[cunning geyser]

That makes me want to post a gif we always have the bot in my server throw in, but it has extensive swearing, so...

[dusty arrow]

this is because its france

[stuck bane]

Dex was awesome though

[light garden]

I don't think that's in IF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?

[stuck bane]

Bruh

[dark prism]

yep lmaoo

[dusty arrow]

stfu yanmega

[dark prism]

honestly the coastal regions of Kalos were my favorite areas

[full bison]

XY introduced the Exp Share that I despise and it was clear they had no idea how to balance around it

[dark prism]

and the caves

[dusty arrow]

gogoat better get an evo with high speed

its a fucking motorcycle why is he slow

[cunning geyser]

XY also let you turn it off

[full bison]

I was always like 10-15 levels overleveled

[dark prism]

exp share...

[stuck bane]

AND ITS NOT EVEN DIFFICULT JUST GIVE A FUNCTION TO TURN IT OFF YOU DID IT BEFORE

[dark prism]

[marble meadow]

maybe some evos based of french myths

[stuck bane]

Gamefreak annoys me sometimes

[dark prism]

I'm still not over them not scaling gyms in scar/vio

[stuck bane]

I remember when BW had a hard mode

[cunning geyser]

Oh do not get me started on that "open world"

[dusty arrow]

i think we all should give diantha an apology after geeta

[empty pendant]

now here's my deal: I hate grinding
so for me if I run away from wild pokemon but fight trainers I end up like. perfectly leveled with it

[dark prism]

yeah we're gonna let you do them in any order but HERE'S THE ORDER YOU SHOULD DO THEM IN

I think game freak is so handholdy with their design now

[dusty arrow]

at least diantha used pokemon from her region

[stuck bane]

That’s valid

However

Let me turn it off please

[dark prism]

that it gets annoying and that's why the legends games are refreshing

[cunning geyser]

I mean galar was a line

[velvet root]

greetings

[stuck bane]

Yello

[dark prism]

yo

[marble meadow]

nah fam za will get a 3phase battle like la

[full bison]

God, SV are so empty.I don't get it either, LA was so full of life, what was so different about them?

[ember bear]

no problem in using exp share, the point is that at least they could give the option to toggle it

[empty pendant]

also the gym scaling (or lack thereof) in scarvi is actually great sometimes

I did a personal challenge where I just. did the grass gym, then did all of arven's quest, then all of team star, then did the league gyms in reverse order

and it was actually hilarious I enjoyed myself a lot

[ember bear]

like in previous games that was an option and then they just, removed it

[dusty arrow]

zygarde-10, zygarde-50, zygarde-100, zygarde-101

[empty pendant]

oh yeah it should be a toggle no argument there

but I do enjoy having it

[cunning geyser]

Volo actually was an amazing boss

[stuck bane]

“Guys please we’re just a small indie studio with the highest grossing media franchise in the world pweese don’t make fun of usssss”

[cobalt river]

no gym scaling sucked but not realising katy was a baby gym and ending my main playthrough w her was very funny

[dark prism]

that's cool and all but like to me I shouldn't have to play the game in a weird way like that to make it enjoyable

[full bison]

Nah, instead Gamefreak wants to remove more choices. Set battle style? NO.

[cobalt river]

but i know ill be overleveled as hell in ZA anyhow since i also was in PLA wwww i just explore too much for difficulty to be real

[cunning geyser]

To be fair, you can do set by just....not swapping

[stuck bane]

I think I got like 3 alpha shinies before I fought volo and soloed him with those 3

[dark prism]

removing set is just wild

[full bison]

sure, but that's also slightly annoying

[cunning geyser]

Not arguing that.

[dark prism]

let's arbitrarily make you wait 4 seconds while the game registers your nonexistent switch choice

[empty pendant]

I also enjoyed playing scarvi the first time around just... testing out the challenges that I came across, doing what interested me, hitting a wall in one questline and switching to a different one to gain exp... I dunno, I think making every gym scale off your badge number would make everything feel interchangeable

[dusty arrow]

im gonna be spamming b to skip text anyway

[empty pendant]

which is also bad

[full bison]

It's not that big an inconvenience, but it's an inconvenience that they could've easily circumvented

[dark prism]

it's a small inconvenience but think of how much time that adds up in every trainer battle

[cunning geyser]

Just trying to play devils advocate because I'm a sad pokemon simp that doesn't like seeing how far downhill we've slid.

[empty pendant]

There's got to be a better middle ground

[dark prism]

gym scaling worked just fine in fangames like crystal clear, I see no reason why game freak couldn't do it

[stuck bane]

Somebody get masahiro sakurai to take over Pokémon (removed a feature in kirby air ride because it would’ve made the player wait half a second every time they boot up the game)

[dusty arrow]

and pokemon has done level scaling before, just with wild mons in swsh wild areas

[empty pendant]

Like for Scar/Vi specifically, if the league gyms scaled but the Titan and Team Star quests did not scale I think that would have worked

[cunning geyser]

Sakurai is....I love his work but I cannot get a read on him

[stuck bane]

I wanna play games that respect me as a player

[empty pendant]

I think making the Titans scale would have ruined the game

[full bison]

it's gone from "What will the next Pokemon game add" to "what will the next Pokemon game take away?" What, will Gen 10 force us to carry the Starter in our party from beginning to end?

[stuck bane]

Uprising was goated tho

[cunning geyser]

He just went on apologizing for how much time people put into smash

[dusty arrow]

lets go already did that lmao

[cobalt river]

i long for a xenoblade type map pokemon. still linear story /boss wise but has very large maps to explore and wayyy overleveled enemies saundering around to sneak past

[cunning geyser]

Uprising was some of my favorite writing in a game EVER

[dark prism]

the reason gym scaling works well in crystal clear though is because wild mons do not scale, and so going to some areas is still more difficult. Like yeah you can go fight Claire first and she'll have a team of like 2 dratinis and be really easy, but you have to make it all the way to Blackthorne City to do that which is hard with low lv mons

[full bison]

sure, but that's at least a baby game

[dusty arrow]

dude

pokemon is a kids game

[empty pendant]

yes exactly! if you make everything scale then everything is interchangeable and nothing matters.

[dusty arrow]

always has been

[stuck bane]

I’m predicting BW remakes will remove the entire unova dex and replace it with Kanto dex

[full bison]

Pokemon is a kids game, LGPE is a Baby game. there's a difference

[dark prism]

yeah!! I like the approach of some things scaling

[marble meadow]

yeah but with al those item ability moves the real chalenge comes in competetive play

[cunning geyser]

Legends arceus meanwhile with that Snorlax off to the east of the very start of the first map

[dark prism]

crystal clear was also cool cause they let you rematch the gym leaders at different difficulty levels

[cunning geyser]

[dark prism]

so you could fight brock from like badge lv 1 all the way to 16 or whatever your current badge lv is

where his team is ridiculous

just in case you're curious about how it changes

[full bison]

Also I despise the "It's for kids" excuse with a passion so let's not go there

[dusty arrow]

i wont care
as long as tauros is on top

[dark prism]

or want to train up some lower level mons

[empty pendant]

I do appreciate several things the new games have added for immersion and accessibility even if removing several optional difficulty toggles from previous gens is. Annoying

autobattling and trainers that don't fight you on sight is just so fucking nice

I want to r u n

[cunning geyser]

Removing accessibility options is never going to be a good move

[dark prism]

Yeah I do think like fluid difficulty options are overall superior to like an option menu toggle but if they could add in-game ways to have those options that would be cool

like let us have a key item you can get that you can toggle on and it disables exp share

or something

[full bison]

At least one thing will always be consistently good in Pokemon

Banger music

[cunning geyser]

Valid

[empty pendant]

removing the exp share toggle and the set mode toggle is making the more "accessible" option the ONLY option, which is different from "removing accessibility options"

it's a problem, but it's a different problem

[cunning geyser]

You got my meaning, though

[velvet root]

Man I just woke up from a dream
It was gen 10 and the graphics were fine, you were able to ride on some Pokemon and there was a side quest that needed you to explore some ruins cuz of a troublemaking Dragapult, you had to jump from house to house with some pokemon and even balance over small gaps kinda in a TLOU stile

[dark prism]

honestly though for switch vs set I feel a bit differently because it's literally just preference at that point

[cunning geyser]

I like switch, but once again, not a competitive person

[dark prism]

removing that option to me is just dumb

I play on set now because it's more fun but when I was a kid? yeah switch all day

it helped me learn the game

and set let me better execute on the knowledge of the game that I accumulated over time

[cunning geyser]

So honest question, is set more fun just because of the minor addition to difficulty and tactics?

[full bison]

I mostly just want a difficulty setting to feel like I'm actually getting some pushback. The best part of SV is Blueberry Academy because I actually felt challenged

[cunning geyser]

I haven't even really tried it

[dark prism]

it's more fun to me because you don't know what's coming out and also

you have situations like

say your opponent sends out an intimidate mon

and you know they're going to send it out because it tells you

so you swap your current mon out for some other mon that's a special attacker

[cunning geyser]

Swap to spatk, yeah

[dark prism]

you always have the advantage

[cunning geyser]

Y'know...fair.

[marble meadow]

but atleast i got another fav firetype chi yu

[dark prism]

to me playing on set with battle experience enhances the experience, whereas playing on switch with battle experience actually worsens it

funny how that works lol

[cunning geyser]

Maybe on my IF run 2, I'll stick to classic over remixed, but actually give myself a few challenges and play set.

[dark prism]

set in IF is wild

[cunning geyser]

The monomon runs look fun.

[dark prism]

it's a lot of fun though

[empty pendant]

I do think that set mode toggle should come back, specifically bc set mode is the only option in competitive and you should be able to learn the playstyle organically

[dark prism]

that too

[cunning geyser]

I was considering an absol or Mawile monomon run

[dark prism]

asking people to play the entire normal game one way and then expect them to adapt to a different ruleset for real matches is a bit much

[empty pendant]

Like if you just want to challenge yourself, sure, you can just say no every time, it's minorly annoying but whatever. But yeah this

[dark prism]

the competitive gating for pokemon is already a lot

for your average player

[molten loom]

Good idea

[dark prism]

yeah I mean my main issue with that is just how much time you lose to doing that over an entire playthrough

it's a small inconvenience one at a time but given how many trainer battles you get into, I started to feel it when I was playing scar/vio

and I didn't even finish it

yet anyways

[cunning geyser]

It's worse being in the middle ground too. Like I can and do breed and train EV/IV in mons. So I'm far and above better than any casual friends, but one friend I have that I used to play with....there was no point. They literally zoned out because they just blocked off everything I tried. There was no contest.

[dark prism]

yeah lol experienced pokemon players who know how to deal with most tactics are rough

always two steps ahead

it was like that when my friend wanted to get into competitive

and played with me on showdown

and I just shut down every tactic of hers because she didn't want me holding back

i felt so bad lmao

[cunning geyser]

That's why he stopped playing with me. "I feel guilty because I know how hard you're actually trying to learn this."

I wanted to throttle him so bad...

[dark prism]

lmaoo

bro said I'll quit while I'm ahead

[cunning geyser]

I also tend to get a bit more (playfully) aggressive with friends, to be fair

Pillows have been thrown.

[marble meadow]

depending on how much was done for the new mons i do a run with the new added ones or a custom dex entry only run

[dark prism]

pillow fights are fun lol

[cunning geyser]

Oh it wasn't a fight.

[dark prism]

well I assume it wasn't a full blown pillow fight but

if it was me it woulda turned into one

lmao

[cunning geyser]

A fight implies they were given a chance reciprocate.

** N o.**

[dark prism]

did you knock them out or something??

[molten loom]

It was a pillow slaughter clearly

[dark prism]

lmao

[sweet spoke]

pillowbeatdown

[dark prism]

I have a pretty thick noggin so I'm not going down to a pillow I'm afraid

they've tried

and failed

[cunning geyser]

Anyway, all that aside, I am trying to at least get through IF remix mode. I've slowed down drastically though

Fights are getting difficult, which I like!

[dark prism]

this has been an incredibly scattered conversation

[sweet spoke]

yes

[cobalt river]

pokemon competitive seems so daunting to get into esp when everyone whos into is already like. good at it. eyah that being said fucking around vs a friend who also doesnt know what theyre doing? incredibly funny 10/10 would recommend

[dark prism]

why was pillow fight such a brief topic in comparison lmao

[dark prism]

I haven't tried remix mode yet

not sure what it does actually

[cunning geyser]

I would LOVE to have that friend

[molten loom]

A lot

[dark prism]

yes it's a lot of fun when your friend actually wants to go along with it and doesn't just make you feel awful the whole time LOL

[molten loom]

Changes trainer teams, gym types, what you encounter on routes, gyms have higher levels

[marble meadow]

well its just waiting for announcement but u never know when there is a announcement

[cunning geyser]

You want to know what it does? It takes gyms, laughs at you, and yeets you into the air a la the tRio.

Misty? Swept me.
Surge? Ow.
Giovanni caused me to almost kill myself I will not elaborate

[dark prism]

lmao

I gotta try this

[molten loom]

Misty is one of the biggest walls in it

[cunning geyser]

And Champ blue? MEAN

That ace was MEAN

[cobalt river]

me 🤝 my friend
hang on let me get the type chart ready for this i dont remember any of them

[cunning geyser]

Whoever had that idea gets a boot to the head

[cobalt river]

i really need to play IF sometimes it seems fun

[cunning geyser]

Literally using a team of your fusions now, minus one Ozcraft

[dark prism]

IF races and co-ops runs are fun

[cobalt river]

hehehe im honored to hear it

[dark prism]

I should make more sprites but I'm sooo tired

suadhf

I really wanna do something with the kalos starters

[cunning geyser]

Chances are if it is cute it's going on my list to write dex entries for

My goal atm is one a day

[dark prism]

I was thinking of going cute, yeah

[cobalt river]

yeah i need to do smth w the starters too and im falling behind on diancies orz

[cunning geyser]

SPEAKING of

[dark prism]

only a couple of my sprites so far have gone for a cute look

[cunning geyser]

Ribbon. Ribbooooon.

[cobalt river]

Whatsup!

[cunning geyser]

Seb passed me that Diance chart you did

[dark prism]

this lil guy is my favorite

[cunning geyser]

Holy cow.

[cobalt river]

OH haha Im glad my chart is still making the rounds thank you Seb 111 diancie heads done all solo babeyyy

[dark prism]

damn

the grind is real

[cunning geyser]

Aurange have you seen it yet?

[dark prism]

I feel like a slacker compared to a majority of the other spriters here I swear 😂

[dark prism]

don't think so!

[cunning geyser]

Lookit

[dark prism]

woah

I'm still looking through them but these are really nice

see I definitely still want diancie

people saying "but we have carbink" NO

put diancie in

[cobalt river]

eres the most recent version :] i dont think the other is missing a ton but the marowak line , reshiram and carbink have been added since i think?

[dark prism]

:l

[cunning geyser]

This actually is what made me swap to wanting Diaaaaaaaa-

[cerulean topaz]

Tbh

[cunning geyser]

Gimme

[cobalt river]

i love carbink and i dont think diancies chances are high but. if she ever makes it in, ill be very happy

[cerulean topaz]

I thought that diancie was added

[sweet spoke]

Ill mention brock is a steel type gym leader in remix
misty is ice I think?

[dark prism]

ahh already sounds harder lol

[cerulean topaz]

Like i swear this happened but apparently my brain made up a false memory of diancie being added

[dark prism]

steel as gym 1 is wild

[sweet spoke]

reehehehee

[sweet spoke]

to be fair a fire type starter handles it pretty well

[dark prism]

you just wanted it soooo bad

[cobalt river]

WWW i wish

[cunning geyser]

Dont spoil the remix gyms types for them

[sweet spoke]

we got small diancie instead

[dark prism]

but then I'm scared of ground coverage lol

[cunning geyser]

I want to hear them suffer like I did

[sweet spoke]

well if you went with ground you'd get accosted by misty's ice types

[cerulean topaz]

Yeah i thought diancie was added in the last big event lmao

But i just made that up

Source: my beautiful mind

Diancie would be great though

[sweet spoke]

imagine a carbink fusion that's just Diancie

[cunning geyser]

I want Diance just to get Ribbon's sprites

[cobalt river]

and theres all diancies that arent on my chart (due to not being heads)

[marble meadow]

well before the new mons get added i have a few run ideas to go trough i still think it will be end of october or mid november

[cunning geyser]

THE FURRET

[sweet spoke]

SOLGALEO

[cunning geyser]

[sweet spoke]

PEAK

ALL OF THESE

[cobalt river]

i love furret so much to work with as head also TY!!!!

[velvet root]

Half of them look like Lopunnys with no legs XD
No front

[lofty fiber]

anyone got any fusions based on the Gen 5 starters?

[molten loom]

|| There is a mud slap tutor in the museum so not really ||

[dark prism]

I don't know if I can scream more than when I played crystal kaizo

but we will see

lol

[velvet root]

Like that?

[cerulean topaz]

Once again while i have preferences there are very few pokemon id genuinely be upset about seeing in the game

[cunning geyser]

Oh my god

[dark prism]

they're so expressive omg

[cunning geyser]

Seviper yes

[lofty fiber]

it's a start, looks neat

[dark prism]

all the poses are different too

damn

[cerulean topaz]

What body is that? Sorry

[lofty fiber]

I need a Seviper X Zangoose fusion posthaste

[cobalt river]

i dont have any gen 5 ones atm id like to do some serperiors though

[dark prism]

I'm so BAD at posing my sprites I gotta take notes

[cunning geyser]

Aurange no joke, go search up Ribbon's work on the fusion dex

[molten loom]

Snivy?

[cerulean topaz]

You should do crustle fusions

[dark prism]

Sevivy

[cunning geyser]

Like everything they've done is so incredibly expressive and cute

[cerulean topaz]

You dont have to lol im just biased

[cobalt river]

ty!!! also yeeee i always try to custom base everything >:] i really want all my sprites to feel unique haha (even if it can be hard to pose diancie since it is Just A Torso)

[dark prism]

I usually just look in the sprite gallery cus I'm lazy lol

[cobalt river]

WWWWWW if it ever gets into the game i will do a crustle

[stuck bane]

Wait garbodor is a gen 5 one, unless you’re talking something else

[velvet root]

I also found those
Monkeys cuz people say they are the second starters
And a old Scraggy/Snivy

[cobalt river]

i meant gen 5 starter fusions! ive done plenty of gen 5 otherwise yee

[dark prism]

that's so cool! I'm still pretty inexperienced when it comes to custom bases. I only ever did 3 bases from scratch on my own and one I'm really proud of but it took a long ass time lol

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-mmmm-monkey-turtle-kung-fu-panda-gif-17129341

[stuck bane]

Spriter’s would go crazy on Crustle, like top 8 or something

Oh I see

[cerulean topaz]

A lot of pokemon can have concepts extrapolated from them even if theyre less wanted pokemon like the monkeys. Like there still could be something done with them thats cool. Cryogonal fusions would be Interesting though lol

[stoic canopy]

All the monkeys combined and I still hate them.

[cunning geyser]

Crustle/slurpuff.

I just want cake

[cerulean topaz]

I love crustle so much

[molten loom]

What would even be the name of the monkey triples

[cobalt river]

super understandable! it takes some getting used to especially the tiny ones you have to really squeeze onto tthe canvas ((thats part of why i started doing my diancies- i was only comfrotable drawing humanoids since i only ever drew humans. this project has essentially been a way to force myself to learn other bodies :'D))

[cerulean topaz]

Im very biased towards gen 5 pokemon

[cunning geyser]

Panpanpan

[cerulean topaz]

Panpan

[stuck bane]

Same as regiregi, simisimi

[ember bear]

simi^3

[molten loom]

And Panpan

[stuck bane]

Yes

[cobalt river]

simisimi do be a very cute name

[cunning geyser]

It's fun to say

[molten loom]

Panpan should have a pan flag alt

[stuck bane]

Panpan is also fun

[stoic canopy]

I do agree that someone can do some cool fusion with a poorly designed Pokémon. But that saids more about the artist making it then the Pokémon it’s self.

[molten loom]

It actually kind of works

[full bison]

Also an alt where it's holding a pan

[stuck bane]

Wait would it be offensive for a monkey to have a pan flag

[dark prism]

that's smart!! I think you're doing great at that :)

[lofty fiber]

Why do I imagine Gardevoir/Scrafty as a scrappy, baggy pants hoodlum girl with a half mohawk?

[cunning geyser]

Only if people actively make it so.

[velvet root]

Cuz that would be a funny idea

[full bison]

That's basically what Scrafty is, aside from the hairstyle

[stuck bane]

I’ll assume it’s good unless told otherwise, PANPAN FOR PRIDE MONTH

[full bison]

it's the Hoodlum Pokemon

[stoic canopy]

I’d imagine as a Japanese high school delinquent.

[cobalt river]

anything can work, but some overlap more with things we already have or just generaly have more/less to work with. I think the most important thing is less what can be done with them and more if people want to do things with them though some mons definitely end up with uhm. not a ton of sprites. since theyre just not very appealing to work with

[velvet root]

I mean I made some fusions for the Scraggy line cuz they were in the winner vote

[dark prism]

ralts/scrafty is mob from mob psycho

[cunning geyser]

Kirlia Scrafty would just be Taiga

[glacial vigil]

People also just like working on their favourites

[cunning geyser]

Actually maybe mankey

[lofty fiber]

got any Darmanitan fusions?

[glacial vigil]

I can't see many working on the gen 5 monkey trio because they are so disliked

[velvet root]

I would if they were on the secret Vote or if I had a awesome idea

[molten loom]

I mean same with Bruxish

[velvet root]

Just remember
I have that Scraggy too

[sweet spoke]

ive always wondered why everyone hated the monkes

[lofty fiber]

Snorlax with the Darmanitan face on the belly

[cunning geyser]

I was really surprised bruxish was in

[glacial vigil]

Same

[molten loom]

The video is so good for Bruxish though

You can't be mad

[cunning geyser]

Video?

[glacial vigil]

They just... aren't good? I guess?

[grave jolt]

True

[stoic canopy]

Bruxish has a “so bad it’s good” vibe going on

[glacial vigil]

Maybe if they had different elemenents

[stoic canopy]

The monkeys are just dull.

[cobalt river]

the monkeys main problem is just that theres three of them tbh. It makes them all compete with eachother which means individually theyd probably end up low, yeah 😔 on their own theyre not bad-if a little bland- but since its a package deal its a lot
still, i wouldnt dislike them. theyre very neutral to me lol theres pokemon id dislike way more

[sweet spoke]

expressly mid is a very boring reason to dislike a pokemon

[molten loom]

#announcements message

[sweet spoke]

this shit is like minecraft fans getting pissed cause the new addition doesn't have 50 billion uses

[dark prism]

IT ME

[velvet root]

I agree on that XD

[dark prism]

[glacial vigil]

I just think them being the same element as the starters is part of the reason they are so disliked tbh

[grave jolt]

no

[glacial vigil]

They would have been better as a fighting, dark, psychic trio

[ember bear]

i just think of them like "oh they exist" instead of just disliking

[cunning geyser]

....I get it now

[glacial vigil]

Pretty much

They exist

[lofty fiber]

I did have an idea on how to get evolved Pokemon from Gens 8-9 in the game. Specifically the ones that need the regional variation

[grave jolt]

Problem is that the monkies are in the gym just before the gen 5 starters evolve the first time.

[velvet root]

Welp I got to go and buy something
Can you guys look after my Sinnoh Goats?

[dark prism]

ofc

[lofty fiber]

I shall

[dark prism]

[cunning geyser]

Okay so, I don't love gogoat that much

[stoic canopy]

In a lot of ways, apathy is worse than hate. And apathy sums up the monkeys.

[cunning geyser]

But

[lofty fiber]

we'll go for walks, go to the park, wear matching pajamas, the works

[cunning geyser]

Every single gogoat fusion I have seen makes me want to hug them.

[tender plank]

I will hold the Turtwig one very closely, they'll be safe with me I promise.

[velvet root]

||If you wanna see all finished ones #1213539303876206643 message||

okay see you all

[tender plank]

see ya!

[grave jolt]

Need a shiny version that makes the green yellow and the grey a darker grey.

[cunning geyser]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1213539303876206643/1270431744574623876/821.290.png?ex=66e51d83&is=66e3cc03&hm=2776f5a8ab5a42fbb5ee4c63bfd4c3a4fcdd099d9804b277b8afbc1d432b922e&

Oh my god

[lofty fiber]

I imagine if we got Ludicolo in the game, the fusion between it and Cacturne (or Maractus if they got in) would be this

[full ether]

Ludicolo and Gogoat are all I ask for

[lofty fiber]

my biggest asks are for the Gen 5 and 7 starters

[cunning geyser]

7 yeah. I really want primarina fusions

[cobalt river]

god primarina come home please

[stoic canopy]

Seedot and panchan are my wishlist.

[lofty fiber]

Incineroar/Hawlucha, pretty pls

[full bison]

This could make for a cool Gogoat/Xerneas fusion if someone wants to make that

[stoic canopy]

Grass/dark kabuki dancer? Yes please
.

[grave jolt]

Stealing that tail, who made it?

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-primarina-sun-and-moon-gif-13384450

Best gen 7 starter

Imo

[cobalt river]

/shaking my first at the sky/ eventually

[lofty fiber]

anyone wanna take a stab at who it would take to fuse into this guy?

[cunning geyser]

Follow that blacked out link just above me, it's right at the top

[stuck bane]

I’d like to see Azurobe fusions in the game /s

[stoic canopy]

Heel wrestler cat though…

[cunning geyser]

Oh my god

[full bison]

he said best, not worst

[stoic canopy]

How dare you…I am now sad.

[lofty fiber]

Don't leave out Decidueye, there's a lot of potential there

[molten loom]

I am neutral to the other gen 7 starters

[lofty fiber]

and don't you DARE leave out Rowlett

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pkm-go-sleep-gif-22453926

[stoic canopy]

Honestly gen 7 had some of the best starter designs we had in a while.

[glacial vigil]

I agree tbh

I can't say I disliked any of them

[stuck bane]

I’ll celebrate with you guys when we get unova starters in 2 years (gen 8+ code will be fixed before then and unova starters will never get in )

[glacial vigil]

I just wish fire didn't have the bipedal curse

[ember bear]

i liked most starters until gen 8

[feral bear]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1284184349650194535 New precious child just dropped, delphox flavored

[full bison]

I just dislike Incin for setting the "All starters will now evolve into furries" bar that was only broken by Skeledirge

[lofty fiber]

let's hope Skeledirge is the start of the healing process

[stuck bane]

Don’t hold your breath

[stoic canopy]

It’s funny because meowcraide was the best looking final evolution for that set.

[stuck bane]

I’m the guy who thought quaxly was cool, it wasn’t

[full bison]

Meowscarada is just Rule 2 bait

[cunning geyser]

Quaxwell was

[stoic canopy]

You poor fool.

[cunning geyser]

But the final, eurgh

[full bison]

It's not even close to resembling the magician it's allegedly based on

[stuck bane]

I really liked his first form what can I say

Unovan starters revealed in 4 hours

[marble meadow]

ah yes my fav gremlin sableye

[full bison]

the reveal is always tomorrow

[tender plank]

it's gonna be tirtouga, trust

[thorny ferry]

But it can change...

[stuck bane]

404: not found

[ember bear]

nah the reveal is sunday (not this one)

[glass patio]

[stuck bane]

But I think today since last was Thursday

[marble meadow]

only time will tell

[glass patio]

https://tenor.com/view/samurott-sword-cool-gif-20547374

[cobalt river]

ack its been a week already ive done like nothing

[stoic canopy]

I know it won’t be, but I’m hoping for the box legos for X&Y

[molten loom]

There is no way Friday the 13th has no special thing

[lofty fiber]

if we're not getting Kingambit, Samurott/Bisharp will have to do

[thorny ferry]

Pumpkaboo line...

[glass patio]

aside from minior i’d love to get my fav starter pokemon 😔

[stuck bane]

Gimmie one of the billions of dark types not in game

[molten loom]

-# I mean there is but I hope not

[ember bear]

jason for if

[stuck bane]

I’d love pumpkaboo but that’s gonna be a Halloween reveal

[glass patio]

wait

[stuck bane]

Then again we’ve gotten 10 Kalos so far

[glass patio]

i didnt realize

lol

[full bison]

Maybe it'll be Golisopod because it's always been unlucky

[glacial vigil]

All I want is another ice type to make it in. Ice creams maybe

[stoic canopy]

No

No ice cream.

[full bison]

Yes ice cream

[tender plank]

#starving

[lofty fiber]

why not? could be fun

[glacial vigil]

They would bring good fusion material

[lofty fiber]

Tropius would make good fusion material

[stoic canopy]

Food mons feel like creative dead ends to me.

[stuck bane]

Liepard, scrafty, jellicent, and beheeyem are all the potentials from unova if it is a Friday the 13th reveal

[full bison]

We literally don't have any food Mons RN. No I don't count Exeggcute

[stuck bane]

Some are stretches

[cobalt river]

ice cream would be really fun to work with, it mostly just suffers from being a three stage line with very little head differentation

beheeyem and jellicent

[full bison]

Food mons bring something that we don't have to IF

[lofty fiber]

my money for a 13th reveal is still Inkay and Malamar

[stuck bane]

Oh malamar is a good one too

[tender plank]

we would be balling if it was tbh

[stoic canopy]

And they are all creative dead ends. The best one is probably the cake or the bread dogs and we can’t get either of them.

[marble meadow]

vanillux ice cream flavours slurpuff candy theme

[stuck bane]

Natural contrary and topsy turvy alone make it great, but also upside down fusions and deep sea lighting pattern

[cobalt river]

'creative dead ends'

[full bison]

Do you realize how many different methods people have found to serve Ice Cream? It's not a dead end by any means

[stuck bane]

I’d like both Slurpuff and Vanilluxe, we need more ice and fairy types

[stoic canopy]

Because most of them are X but food.

[lofty fiber]

Vanillish and Grimer or Muk

[glacial vigil]

Yeah, and sandyghast is x but sand

Your point?

[tender plank]

and this entire game is 'X but Y'

[cobalt river]

yeah thats just every fusion

[full bison]

That's like saying Klinklang is a creative dead end because it's just X but robot

[ember bear]

nah this is infinite fusion it's neither x or y

[stuck bane]

Charizard but bruxish

[stoic canopy]

A hunted sandcastle is most definitely not X but sand.

[stuck bane]

Meloetta but plant mantis

[glacial vigil]

lmao, the fusions are literally pokemon but sand

[stuck bane]

Voltorb but electrode

[glacial vigil]

Or pokemon building

[lofty fiber]

Vanilluxe / Klinklang = Ice Cream maker

[stuck bane]

Kangaskhan but cubone

[stoic canopy]

You reminded me of that fusion and now I’m sad.

[molten loom]

No

[tender plank]

god you're cooking

[stuck bane]

Yeah, and you know exactly what I’m talking about, it’s literally every fusion

[stoic canopy]

Yea…yea…it’s like the only cubone has going on.

[stuck bane]

Marowak but chandelure

[lofty fiber]

oooooh, Vanillish/Magneton could be Dippin' Dots

Vanillish/Geodude could be a Nestle Drumstick

[thorny ferry]

FISHING HOLE IS BACK!!

[cobalt river]

at least crop out the date

[thorny ferry]

Oops

[dusty arrow]

he forgor

[fallen loom]

2023

[lofty fiber]

Fishing Hole's Closed

[ember bear]

imagine they just announce another language channel

[velvet root]

Ideas are welcome in #1213539303876206643 thread

[molten loom]

Imagine if they announced a thing in a language channel

[velvet root]

Now i drive home ^^

[fathom ridge]

were :0

[stuck bane]

I guess mandibuzz might also count, yeah since it was separated from braviary it’s a potential one as well

[tender plank]

2023, you got a time machine?

[fathom ridge]

damn mine is broken

[tender plank]

mine too😔

[cunning geyser]

I have a celebi-

[last pecan]

frog stop having your brat summer and give us some new pokemon 🙏

[cunning geyser]

"Brat summer" what? xD

Is that some new slang that is hip with the kids? I am very unaware.

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story2-cleaner-you-cant-rush-art-rush-art-impatient-client-gif-20473209

[last pecan]

you dont know charlie xcx's brat? damn

[cunning geyser]

Joking aside no, I don't

[last pecan]

its an album

[steel meadow]

everyone doesnt listen to pop, especially the newest pop

[last pecan]

smhsmh its culture

[steel meadow]

i know of it, i just havent gotten to listening to it yet

[cunning geyser]

My culture is being old and crusty in regards to anything current

[last pecan]

skill issue

[cunning geyser]

[last pecan]

just get skibidi better

[cunning geyser]

I have no idea how to respond to that. I hate it here.

[last pecan]

not a true sigma gamer

[steel meadow]

its in my playlist that i want to listen to. those words directly translate to "listen to this sometime"

so in around 4000 songs ill get to brat

[gray vine]

stop being so crusty old man

[steel meadow]

crusty music taste kinda good not gonna lie

[gray vine]

deep fried rock

[cunning geyser]

I legit do enjoy Swing and Jazz

[grave jolt]

Thie prob needs to be refined, and I will later, but Skiddo/Pachirisu

[last pecan]

so do i, i just also enjoy Chappell Roan and Sabrina Carpenter like a cultured gentleman

[velvet root]

Not too bad
I like it

[grave jolt]

I'm gonna stop tyoing now and take a break because fucking ow I remember why I don't sprite

[daring verge]

Would be cool to have more kalos or alola mons like- uh Clawtizer, Pyroar, Florgess, Toucannon, Meowstic, Gogoat, Heliolisk, Gumshoos, Vikavolt, Araquanid, Tsareena, Salazzle or Golissopod

[lofty fiber]

I do hope 500 isn't gonna be the cap for the game

not to put more work on Frog or anything

[steel meadow]

GOAT GOAT GOAT GOAT GOAT

[bronze barn]

Goat!!!!

[steel meadow]

we'd appreciate the updated version in #1213539303876206643 if it happens

[grave jolt]

Will definitely do so;
Need to redo the tail (it's currently ripped from the kecleon one) and figure out the horns.

[stuck bane]

I’d fucking cry if we ended with over 100 slots remaining from unova. If all 15 slots were unova this time around, we’d still be above 100. For comparison the next highest is alola at 70 slots remaining

[dusty arrow]

we need a potoo pokemon

[stuck bane]

15 slots is just not enough to get all the awesome mons, from unova and outside of unova

[grave jolt]

my keyboard died while I was in the middle of Skidirisu

[steel meadow]

a little thing i think would add alot would be if you straight up ripped the eyes from pachirisus or skiddos eyes and slapped them on there. looking forward for you to finish this (also post it in spritework smh)

[lofty fiber]

some of my biggest hopes (outside of starters/legendaries) are Medicham, Camerupt, Torkoal, Grumpig, Zangoose, Seviper, Chimecho, Walrein, Vespiquen, Hippowdon, Stoutland, Gigalith, Conkeldurr, Seismitoad, Throh, Sawk, Leavanny, Darmanitan, Scrafty, Gothitelle, Vanilluxe, Escavalier, Jellicent, Eelektross, Accelgor, Mienshao, Braviary, Mandibuzz, Mamalar, Dragalgae, Toucannon, Mudsdale, Turtonator and Drampa

[azure salmon]

Wow

That's a lot of options

Did you guys know you can pay for one of them to be guaranteed?

[lofty fiber]

there are more, but I don't wanna repeat what other people are saying

[grave jolt]

Pachis' eyes are surrounded by a shading nearly the same color as Skiddos fur and the head is too small for Skiddos eyes.

[cunning geyser]

Wait can we actually donate to the project? I thought that would make it....y'know, appear on radar.

[grave jolt]

I went with sideways eyes since goats have sideways pupals

[azure salmon]

Yeas

[cunning geyser]

Cease and Desist is not what any of us want

[azure salmon]

www.iloveinfinitefusions.com/donate

[cunning geyser]

Nothing against you, but I'm wary of going to that without like, a mod claiming it's real.

[lofty fiber]

yeah, isn't that against the rules?

[azure salmon]

It's a joke, I've been using to try to show it was a joke, sorry about that.

[cunning geyser]

I did not see the emoji name

I feel foolish

[steel meadow]

Oh that definetly makes sense too. I tried slapping pachi eyes on it anyways just to see what it looks like for myself. Both definetly works

Ur eyes feels more "fusiony" tho

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-gif-7572145459305810637

[gray vine]

goat

[hollow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/shellos-gastrodon-pokemon-gif-11254155363993368953

I doubt it will happen but I have hope

[stuck bane]

Ground type with storm drain would be so much fun

[steel meadow]

they better at some point

[hollow creek]

I feel like one of these 15 or so mons will be dragalgae

[stuck bane]

But also there’s like 350 slots to choose from so it’s really tough competition

(And 116 of them are unova )

Wait I need to see something

[gray vine]

the actual Goat

[tender plank]

eh, i'm sure tirtouga will steal the spotlight and get in

[hollow creek]

Eelektross is a hope too

[stuck bane]

You gotta be fucking kidding me 116 is almost exactly a third of 350

[hollow creek]

Excadrill was the most voted gen 5 and I see it having a chance

[stuck bane]

Unova is literally a third of all our choices, we’re bound to hit some of them right?

[hollow creek]

At least one line

[stuck bane]

Wait no it’s 347 not 350 slots remaining

Unova is over a third

Being a fan of the black sheep sucks man, but I guess somebody has to do it

[hollow creek]

Not as hated as gens 8 or 9

[steel meadow]

i honestly dont hate any gen

but if i did it would be gen 8

[tender plank]

currently doing visualisations of who's in and who's not and oh god it actually looks sad seeing so much of unova blacked out

[stuck bane]

True

[stuck bane]

I KNOW MAN

I think alola technically has less percent in than unova but it’s not by much

[cunning geyser]

Look, I am one of the gen 5 detractors. They had more misses on design than any other region imho.

However.

[stuck bane]

Don’t overlook all of them man!

[cunning geyser]

They still had a few great designs, amazing music, and one of the better stories.

[stuck bane]

Like I get it, basculin keldeo watchog, we have unpopulars, who doesn’t?

But consider some of the bangers like Sawsbuck, scrafty, leavanny, etc

[hollow creek]

I feel like people treat unovas misses worse than other generations misses

[steel meadow]

im a certified sawsbuck hater now

[stuck bane]

It does feel like that

[steel meadow]

its because number wise they have the most misses

cuz they got the most mons.

also less nostalgia

[stuck bane]

Yeah unova’s 156 is too much but hoenn’s 135 we just can’t get enough of them

[grave jolt]

Really is just better water based quagsire

[tender plank]

not so fun fact, the first unova mon (in natdex order) who's in the game is venipede, who is the 50th unova pokemon

[stuck bane]

Quag still has funny faces, but yeah gastro would probably be better in game

[stuck bane]

Was it 50? I thought it was a tad lower

[grave jolt]

Reminder that Kanto had Voltorb and 151 pokemon

[cunning geyser]

It's also because we were forced into using unovan pokemon until postgame

[steel meadow]

kanto would be pretty hated if it wasnt literally the first gen

[stuck bane]

Yeah venipede was 49 but still

The first entire 3 rows of that poster aren’t in

[grave jolt]

Kanto would be hated if it wasn't made 30 years ago, instead of Unova at 15 years ago

[tender plank]

(well, that is if you have victini at the end) but point still stands, there's barely any early game unova mons

[steel meadow]

stop making me feel old

[stuck bane]

Oh yeah I forgot that my b

Damn dude. The first 50?

[grave jolt]

Kalos is over a decade old

[tender plank]

that's like. nearly the entire 1st 1/3 not in.

[stuck bane]

Musharna zebstrika gigalith excadrill leavanny

At least consider those, those ones are awesome

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-gif-4679601

[steel meadow]

guys i found paper!

[velvet root]

Dont make me feel old
I remember the day it came out qwq

[stuck bane]

I remember the day BW came out

[grave jolt]

Pokemon crystal is older than I am

[velvet root]

same

[stuck bane]

GameStop gave me a sketch of reshiram and everything for preordering it, apparently one of the employees was an artist

[velvet root]

I check somethin

[velvet root]

Older than me too

[grave jolt]

God I remember the day it came out; I was just getting home from middle school

I was like "Mom can you get me Pokemon X or Y?" and she said "no"

So I just watched Yogscast Zoeys playthrough

[stuck bane]

Wow that was a nostalgia blast