pif-hoenn-discussion

[empty pendant]

without that it becomes the true terror of the pokemon world

[clear lichen]

I suspect if Hidden Power wasn't removed in Gen 8, Volcarona may have been banned there

[empty pendant]

(I love volcarona heheh)

[molten latch]

Ye

[clear lichen]

Same

Fluffy sun moth :)

[unkempt kernel]

PIF made me like volcarona a lot more

[molten latch]

Terastral is good but it was like too late to add a 3rd typing as a gimmick.

[clear lichen]

It's just a silly goober how can you hate it

[molten latch]

Yeah

[clear lichen]

Ignore the war crimes

[molten latch]

Especially his descendant and his future counterpart

[unkempt kernel]

I never hated it, but it wasnt a favourite, just indifferent on it. Using it in PIF made me like it more, the only downside to Volc is the evo lvl

[unkempt kernel]

I love iron moth

[humble lance]

DEPLOYS THE BINK

[clear lichen]

The evo level is simply a balancing decision

[molten latch]

Not bad kid -Peter B.

[unkempt kernel]

I like all of the violet paradoxes

[clear lichen]

And a darn good one at that, Volcarona's a monster

But locking it behind a high evo level is a nice way to balance it out for a playthrough

[unkempt kernel]

The scarlet ones have sort of an...overdesign to them

[clear lichen]

I like both Past and Future Paradoxes

[unkempt kernel]

I dont like Korridon's battle form

[clear lichen]

Except Flutter Mane

[molten latch]

You can argue withthay

[clear lichen]

And Scream Tail

And Iron Thorns

[unkempt kernel]

The headcrest is really off putting

[clear lichen]

But apart from that

[molten latch]

https://tenor.com/view/flutter-mane-pokémon-scarlet-and-violet-indigo-disk-blueberry-academy-gif-10277332425861841137

Its just a Gremlin

[unkempt kernel]

Roaring moon is one of the scarlet ones i do like

[clear lichen]

Look at that evil mf it just fucking nuked 2 metagames at once

This Pokemon's so overrated ngl how is this the most creative Paradox I don't understand

[molten latch]

Yes

[hidden relic]

A lil under 4 hours

[unkempt kernel]

Isnt there a new ruleset thtas banning them>

[clear lichen]

Banned from both metagames it destroyed

A deserved fate

Anyways, you cannot tell me Misdreavus growing slightly longer hair is more creative than something like Iron Valiant or Walking Wake or something

Or heck, most of the other Paradoxes

[molten latch]

Funny that Flutter Mane is called a Pterosaur

[clear lichen]

Even Mr "Robot Ttar" and "Feathered Mega Salamence"

[molten loom]

Until we can see how well Pory knows the game

[grave jolt]

Wooloo ❤️
Also, while most of this is very much not competitively viable I do think that most of these pokemon would have a lot of fusion potential.
But question is; Is it worth introducing Ursaluna and Calyrix to the game to have good fusions?

[clear lichen]

Ursaluna, yes

Calyrex, no fuck that guy

[molten latch]

Oof

Why

[clear lichen]

We do not need Calyrex Shadow in this game

[molten latch]

Why the deer with 2 horses

[clear lichen]

We do not need to give it the best way to remove all of its flaws

[molten latch]

Oof

[clear lichen]

It's already the most broken Pokemon to exist

It doesn't need more

[molten latch]

True.

Atleast Gmax Lapras is GOAT

"What killed the dinosaurs?"

DA ICE AGE!

[clear lichen]

With 2 forms, it is

• One of the few Pokemon to make Trick Room viable is Singles
• The most broken Pokemon of all time in Gen 9 Singles
• Influenced a metagame to have 3 90% usage rate Pokemon in Gen 8 Singles
• Destroyed VGC in BOTH FORMS

Anyways, base Calyrex may as well not exist as far is competitive is concerned so at least 1 form isn't good

[molten latch]

True

No wonder why troll sweepers destroys calyrex shadow rider

[ember bear]

base calyrex might as well not exist because it's ugly

[clear lichen]

That one could actually use some fixing but it's not worth letting Caly-S in

[ember bear]

at least rider forms make it more bearable to look at

[snow tinsel]

[clear lichen]

Calyrex's rider forms are pretty good design wise

[snow tinsel]

Sewaddle is amazing

[clear lichen]

But I loathe Caly-S in Competitive

It's like Flutter Mane levels of hate, except I don't hate Caly-S design-wise

Anyways got sidetracked hating Calyrex

[bleak cape]

the starter is oshawott cuz of me

[clear lichen]

And Flutter Mane

Frosmoth in IF would be amazing

[molten latch]

Same

[clear lichen]

Finally, a way to try to make Frosmoth good

[molten latch]

Oshawott is cute

[ember bear]

gamefreak really thought they were doing something by giving 148< speed and 160< attack/sp attack on two pokemon in the same gen

[clear lichen]

And like I said, Frosmoth/Volcarona would be so peak

[empty pendant]

I like Flutter Mane's design. Who the fuck thought Misdreavus needed a punk hairdo and weird feather scale wings? Idk but they're fabulous

[half needle]

who let them cook

[molten latch]

Same

[half needle]

YESSSS

[molten latch]

We love the Gremlin Ghost

[clear lichen]

They were "balancing" Caly-S with poor coverage

[molten latch]

[clear lichen]

The true thing keeping it "balanced" was Yveltal

[ember bear]

oh right, that was also the excuse they removed hidden power apparently

[clear lichen]

Reason I'm using quotations is because despite this, Caly-S makes Yveltal a LOT worse to the point they were considering banning Caly-S because of the negative effect it had on Yveltal and many other Pokemon

[empty pendant]

Flutter Mane is great at showing that these aren't really "prehistoric Pokemon" these are fuckin. Flintstones Pokemon. These are a ten year old's idea of what prehistoric Pokemon should be. They're all fucked up and I love them.

[molten latch]

Indeed, like Koraidon's Walking

[clear lichen]

Yveltal had to sacrifice a lot of viability to actually check Caly-S

And obviously they didn't even attempt to balance Gen 8 Zacian

[empty pendant]

And the future Pokemon are just like. Some kid going WHAT IF EVERYTHING IN THE FUTURE WAS ROBOTS. They're so weird! I love them

[clear lichen]

They also made Regieleki in Gen 8, another Pokemon balanced (fr this time, in Singles) around poor coverage

All this fell to shit when they added universal coverage back as one could guess

[molten loom]

Casually breaks trick room

[ember bear]

one of the reasons i don't like tera

[clear lichen]

Regieleki just sucks without Tera

With Tera it becomes God

[ember bear]

like the argument i see was "hey it made bad pokemon good" yeah it also made good pokemon better

[clear lichen]

Boltbeam STAB on a fast Pokemon with existent offences (good in the case of Eleki's electric moves)?

Oh, and fast I mean 200 speed obviously

Duh

[clear lichen]

Thankfully they can ban extreme examples of this in Singles

[molten latch]

Ay you even agreed that you like the future paradox.

[trail hull]

Regieleki with the right set up can outspeed trick room

[clear lichen]

Though, most of the bans weren't even massively because of Tera

[clear lichen]

Which barely exists in Singles anyways

[trail hull]

Oh yeah

[clear lichen]

Also, in Singles Gen 9, if you see Trick Room you see Ursaluna

[molten loom]

So can Excadrill

[clear lichen]

So that's funny

[trail hull]

I think people freaked out about tera elec she Dinka with baloon

[trail hull]

WoW really I didn’t know

[clear lichen]

Relicanth can outspeed Trick Room without boosting speed with a move

Just saying

At least I think it doesn't need a move? Could be misremembering

But I know it can

Which is the more important part

The fact that it can outspeed Trick Room

Because who would expect a Relicanth to outspeed Trick Room?

... Someone who has even a slight clue how Swift Swim works, probably

But still

[trail hull]

In 4h we might get new Pokémon reveal won’t be there but I’m excited

[clear lichen]

Why are Gorebyss and Huntail so slow

[molten latch]

4 hours?

How long have we been chatting?

[clear lichen]

Good question

Probably more than 1 hour

[grave jolt]

Meant Urshifu, but gen 9 brings in a monster

[rain locust]

whats tera blast doing here

[grave jolt]

I know nothing about how to actually use Urshifu or Ursaluna because I have never played gen 9 and have barely engaged with the mainline games since Incinneroar was announced

[ember bear]

i usually just did rand bats

[grave jolt]

Terrablast being the obviouly wrong answer since I'd prob put another attack and an assault vest

[ember bear]

what the fuck is teambuilding 🔥

[trail hull]

Same

[molten latch]

Its a competitive thing

Basically, creating a good pokemon team that can outstand other players.

[trail hull]

I know , team building even from the name but like this guy I’m only doing random when I play showdown

[ember bear]

yeah that was a rethorical question

[grave jolt]

Y'all think Caly-S/Caly-I would have a neat fusion?

[molten latch]

No Shinx Sherlock. I think so.

[clear lichen]

Ursaluna just holds Flame Orb with Guts

Then spams Facade and Earthquake/Headlong Rush

Maybe you run Swords Dance as well

[molten latch]

Ye

[grave jolt]

Do that on Ursaluna/Urshifu and you lose out on unseen fist 😔

[clear lichen]

Hey, Unseen Fist isn't extremely good in Singles anyways

[stoic sluice]

So what do you discuss for a last hour?

[clear lichen]

Protect isn't used too much there

[clear lichen]

A lot of random shit

[elfin parrot]

See I don't like Flutter Mane because I hate how it completely ignores Mismagius, same with Scream Tail and Wigglytuff (and Sandy Shocks with Magnezone, but Sandy Shocks at least has a more interesting design change), though both are also obnoxious to fight against.

[stoic sluice]

As always

[grave jolt]

actually, I think counter in place of terra blast works, since it has only a mediocre speed.

[clear lichen]

Also, damn only an hour?

Feels more like 2 or 3

[clear lichen]

Could try to save it with Trailblaze

Idk

[molten latch]

Ashame but Flutter Mane is now my favorite

Fight me

[clear lichen]

Tera Blast Ground with Earthquake on the same moveset is uhh

A decision

Gotta hit Rillaboom with a full powered Ground move frfr

Guts Facade is such a big part of how you play Ursaluna that seeing a not normal type not Guts Ursaluna is off-putting

[clear lichen]

I would but I doubt I can beat ms 3 day ban from OU

[rain locust]

so headlong but worse

[clear lichen]

Yes

OK but neither Ursaluna nor Urshifu run Tera Blast so idk why it is on that set

They usually run same type teras to boost their STABs, no?

AKA Tera Normal on Ursaluna and Tera Water on Urshifu-R

I could check for Ursaluna but Urshifu is banned from OU and bad in Ubers

I checked anyways yup it runs Tera Water and Fighting

[prime dust]

this is going well beyond the means of this channel

#other-pokemon-games

[clear lichen]

True

We get sidetracked a lot

[ember bear]

ok to make more on topic

uhhh

add diancie!

[clear lichen]

Mostly because someone sent an inoptimal fusion of the 2 bears we're talking about

[grave jolt]

I mean, this isn't even other games it's #showdown-teambuilding talk

[molten latch]

Yeah

Getting off the topic

[clear lichen]

Also tbf we were mostly on topic before the arrival of Ursaluna/Urshifu

[grave jolt]

Add Wooloo!

[clear lichen]

Like going off topic once or twice but still

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-anipoke-wooloo-pikachu-comfortable-gif-25045782

[prime dust]

tomato potato

[clear lichen]

If you say add Wooloo and not add Dubwool I'm gonna think you're only saying that because of memes

[prime dust]

see the "gen 8+ highly unlikely"

[ember bear]

we already have mareep anyway

[clear lichen]

For example: Saying "Add Snom" instead of "Add the Snom line"/"Add Frosmoth"

[molten latch]

Wooloo is not bad of a pokemon other than the sheep from a minecraft movie

[grave jolt]

I like dubwool too, but it is in fact memes

[clear lichen]

I'll repropose my question since yall seem to want to talk about that

What Pokemon would you like to see added that is impossible? (Gens 8 and 9)

[grave jolt]

I love underrated pokemon that are basically just normal animals

[clear lichen]

Wooloo is overrated for sure

Mostly because of memes

Dubwool is underrated because Wooloo is popular through memes

[grave jolt]

Correction: I love bad pokemon that are basically just animals

[clear lichen]

It's weird

It's like Bidoof and Bibarel

You'll see people say Bidoof is their favourite, or that Bidoof is god

[molten latch]

For me I love Lechonk

[clear lichen]

You won't see anyone saying that for Bibarel

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/dubwool-pokemon-pokemon-go-pokedex-galar-gif-16613809328269439658

[molten latch]

Lechonk is Lechonk

[clear lichen]

Anyways, I'd personally add Frosmoth

[molten latch]

https://tenor.com/view/lechonk-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-gif-27506681

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/lechonk-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-gif-27506681

[clear lichen]

Frosmoth is one of my favourite Pokemon

And the reason I'd pick it over something I like more (AKA Ogerpon and Chi-Yu)

[ember bear]

lechonk could have been a cool boar

[molten latch]

Yeah so sad

[clear lichen]

Is I NEED that Frosmoth/Volcarona fusion

[ember bear]

and then it ended up being whatever the hell it is

[molten latch]

Atleast its Shiny is not bad

[grave jolt]

Lechonk needed a 3rd foarm that was a boar

[clear lichen]

Oinkologne isn't bad

[grave jolt]

rather than 2 second evos

[clear lichen]

It isn't even generic outside of looks, it doesn't have too uncreative of a concept

[grave jolt]

Pokemon

[ember bear]

pig with makeup 🔥

[molten latch]

Indeed

Even the male one too

[clear lichen]

It's simply the region's dedicated early normal type

[grave jolt]

All they needed to do was make LeChonk look like a normal pig; The Dubwool treatment

[clear lichen]

Idk why people expected it to be a top tier Pokemon

Ig the funni name

That's about it

[molten latch]

Yeah

Is it UU

Or RU

[ember bear]

furret and linoone:

[clear lichen]

I wasn't even talking about competitive

[ember bear]

they are early game normals and they look great

[clear lichen]

Anyways, as with all the other early game normals, it is bad competitively lmao

[ember bear]

ig they are kinda the exception

[clear lichen]

Exceptions and not rules, remember

[molten latch]

Oh sorry

[ember bear]

yeah i realized that after i could not think about any other early normal that i liked 🔥

[grave jolt]

Gimme the gen 7-9 pokemon I like and I'll be beating the game with first form pokemon

[clear lichen]

The only time an early normal was uncompetitive was Moody on Bibarel

[gilded pagoda]

pokemon that can't be in...
Hisui Decidueye or Goodra

[grave jolt]

[clear lichen]

Pretty sure they universally banned Moody

[grave jolt]

God I want H-Goodra

[gilded pagoda]

h-goodra

[molten latch]

We have H-Goodra at home

[grave jolt]

Goodra should have been Steel or Fairy type to begin with!

[stuck bane]

3 hours remain…

[gilded pagoda]

h-avalugg too, even though it is p much worse avalugg

[ember bear]

or even water

[gilded pagoda]

heck

[clear lichen]

Who could've guessed that willingly randomly getting a +2 speed boost OR randomly getting cucked by RNG is uncompetitive

[gilded pagoda]

just add hisui mons

[outer matrix]

There should be a early route update that adds in every early route Pokémon not in IF (up to Gen 7) so that people wouldn't be disappointed that their early route favorite didn't win in the various votes

[clear lichen]

Rng fishing is frowned upon

AKA basing your entire strategy around RNG

[gilded pagoda]

gestures at gen 9 sleep ban

[grave jolt]

There's not even any Dragon/Steel Goodra fusions in IF based on H-Goodra adaik, so I'm stuck...

[clear lichen]

H-Goodra>Goodra imo

This isn't a competitive opinion, if it was I'd have not included "imo"

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/goodra-goodra-hisui-hisui-hisuian-pokemon-gif-18213936463948475060

[devout plover]

I'm gonna have to do a carbink run when it's added

[gilded pagoda]

I need to actually finish PLA

[grave jolt]

H-Goodra has a better typing, but yeah that's about it.

[clear lichen]

Typing is important

You can take this out of context and it'd still work and I like that

Nobody is going to use predictive text instead of typing, surely

Anyways, to stay on topic

Wait hold up I gotta think rq

Actually nah I don't

The Pokemon from Gen 9 I'd want to see added the most is Ogerpon

[outer matrix]

How would the masks work then?

[ember bear]

i mean they kinda figured out different forms already

[clear lichen]

I dunno, but I just really like Ogerpon

I wouldn't be too bothered if they only added Teal Mask

Obviously though it can't be added

[sterile spoke]

Who else wants the bee with a scarf? 🐝

[ember bear]

which bee

[clear lichen]

Or at least, it'd be too tedious

[clear lichen]

Which bee

[ember bear]

the comb or the ribom

[sterile spoke]

The one with a scarf. 🙂

[clear lichen]

Scarf Naganadel?

Damn

[sterile spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/ribombee-pokemon-gif-25622771

[clear lichen]

Ah the suicide lead bee

[outer matrix]

Cheerleader bee?

[clear lichen]

Ribombee would be cool

And also, it'd need to be added for Slurpuff to have Sticky Web

[ember bear]

web setter bee!

[molten latch]

Ribombee FTW

[clear lichen]

Ribombee only gets Webs via breeding here

Slurpuff only gets Webs via breeding as well

[ember bear]

also how hard did it outlevel that zubat to make it explode with a 0.25 effective move

[clear lichen]

A lot

[sterile spoke]

It's just really angry that Zubat's in IF and it's not. 😢

[grave jolt]

My gen 8 wishlist
Wooloo Line - would be funny and have good fusions
Yamper Line - Dogs are always welcome imo
Centiskorch line - Good fusions probably, more fire going around
Alcreamy Line - Great fusion ideas, prob some of the best out there.
Fossils - having the ability to have the bases of the Gen 8 fossils is something I've wanted since gen 8 came out
Dragapult Line - Another Great Dragon Pseudo
Eternatus - Eternamax Eternatus would rock

[sterile spoke]

We can fix that. ❤️

[molten latch]

Im sure Ribombee will be added after the Kalos Starters

It deserves a chance.

[sterile spoke]

A Gen VIII list that doesn't include apples?

[clear lichen]

Eternatus would be so peak but the problem is that it is only peak to us

Imagine being a spriter

And seeing Eternatus being announced

I think I'd die on the spot

[ember bear]

the fossils would be so weird given how they are named

[clear lichen]

There is no way this mf will be anything less than a hell to sprite

[sterile spoke]

I work on the Smogon sprites, and it was a mentor and friend of mine who did the Eternatus sprites. 😅

[outer matrix]

~~ does that mean you know something that we don't know? ~~

[gilded pagoda]

eternatus

[sterile spoke]

He did not enjoy the sprites. 😛

[grave jolt]

It's Ultra Necrozma except Pink

[clear lichen]

I feel like Eternatus would be far more difficult than Unecrozma

They are both apocalyptic dragons though

I will give you that

They are also both aliens

[grave jolt]

Easily the single most powerful pokemon in the game if we get Eternamax

[clear lichen]

That's why we won't

[molten latch]

Z A H A N D O

[molten loom]

Nah sunkern solos

[clear lichen]

It singlehandedly made Pure Hackmons unplayed

It was technically playable but like

Nobody is fucking playing that metagame anymore

[grave jolt]

Coughing baby vs Nuclear Bomb

[clear lichen]

Eternamax supposedly warps spacetime with how much energy it has

Now, I'm not saying the Pokedex is to be trusted all the time

But it would explain why we randomly saw multiple places during the Eternamax cutscenes

[ember bear]

it could just be a "flashback sequence moment so you get stronger" moment

[clear lichen]

We didn't get stronger

We cried to our pet dogs to save us

Because we are frauds

[grave jolt]

Even Normal Eternatus is super powerful, being the second strongest pokemon that isn't an alternate form.

[ember bear]

well

ig

[clear lichen]

The dogs randomly counter ripping spacetime and specifically that

Questionable but alright

Would explain them resisting/being immune to Spacial Rend and Roar of Time

That or yknow

Type matchups

But that's the boring way to explain things

[ember bear]

so basically fairies are immune to spacetime warping

[grave jolt]

Rayquazza coming down to see what the fuck is going on with Galars weather, and promptly going "Nope, not my job."

[clear lichen]

Not immune to a Hydro Pump/Sludge Bomb/Flash Cannon though

Well, Zacian is

To Sludge Bomb

Just saying that particularly because people meme so much about it that they unironically believe a Jigglypuff would 1v1 legendary Dragons

[grave jolt]

Jigglypuff used sing! It was super effective!

[clear lichen]

Umm ackshually Sing can't be Super Effective 🤓

Use Dazzling Gleam instead to get next to no damage

[molten latch]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-tail-screamtail-scream-tail-pokemon-gif-13423364403217152767

[clear lichen]

Anyways ranting about how delusional some casual players can be aside

[grave jolt]

Nah; Sleep then send out HP specced Quagsire

that'll totally work 🥴

[clear lichen]

I thought we were talking about dragons, not Zacian

Quagsire has low SpD

[ember bear]

imagine if zacian had leaf blade

[clear lichen]

No

[grave jolt]

I thought we were talking Eternatus, who's weak to stab earthquake

[clear lichen]

Anyways

[clear lichen]

Let me check how well it takes EQ real quick

Specially Defensive Eternatus
0 Atk Quagsire Earthquake vs. 200 HP / 0 Def Eternatus: 198-234 (42 - 49.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 SpA Eternatus Dynamax Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Quagsire: 210-247 (53.2 - 62.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Welp

Quagsire might be doomed

[molten latch]

So does Clodsire?

[clear lichen]

Ykw specially defensive can't hit Jigglypuff anyways it might be fine

[clear lichen]

Clodsire has high SpD

It's the inverse role of Quagsire

[molten latch]

Ok

[clear lichen]

Anyways wanted to get back on topic

But I realised idk what to talk about anymore

[outer matrix]

Ogerpon fusions?

[clear lichen]

I wonder what the ratio of murder gremlin:cutie would be for Ogerpon if it could be added

And how many would be both

[grave jolt]

there's a chance!

[molten latch]

Maybe

[clear lichen]

Clodsire is actually specially bulky so it could certainly 1v1 Eternatus if they stay in

That said, you need them to stay in and sac to do meaningful damage

Since they have Recover

Actually, nvm

They PP stall your Earthquakes

Assuming they don't get too unlucky with rolls

Oh wait they have Pressure

They can play extremely safe and not worry there

Anyways gonna do something else I ran out of things to say

[grave jolt]

Anyone got any other hopes for the next votes if there are any?

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/xurkitree-gif-9674416

Crismas fusion or different cables

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-squirrel-pokemon-pokemon-pachirisu-adorable-gif-17099886384054803802

[outer matrix]

If fused with deliberd, then yeah for the Christmas fusion

[marble meadow]

i think ultrabeast will not easy to sprite

[stuck bane]

Guys I definitely know what it actually is and I’m not coping:

Holding object is Oshawott line, since the entire line does it unlike fennekin, this also brings along the other starters too after the stream.

Thorns is Maractus, Cacturne is already in and Maractus is the only Pokémon besides Cacturne and chesnaught able to learn both needle arm and spiky shield, both the moves that chesnaught line learns upon evolution. Also not a steel type ruling out togedemaru for spiky shield. Maractus will be 474

Frog will be heatran, this completes the red blue green scheme, and is the closest thing we have to a red frog (for type composition). Heatran will be 475

This will leave enough space to put in the kalos starters as well, and leave 3 spaces leftover for probably Zygarde to hit 500 exact. I’m not coping you are.

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-john-cena-are-you-sure-gif-5783187

[humble lance]

illumise and volbeat

[stuck bane]

We’ll find out in 2 hours ||im totally wrong ||

[marble meadow]

who knows

[sudden totem]

Golisipod is definitely gonna be in the game( I am delusional)

[outer matrix]

It's best to expect nothing tbh

[stuck bane]

Goliso deserves to be in the game

But also it’d be realllly funny if he never made it in

[hidden relic]

Hell are you on about?

[outer matrix]

I mean, it's just a regular playthrough of IF pory is doing, what else could happen besides nothing

[hidden relic]

Are y'all speculating in the Pory playthrough??

[ember bear]

golisopod emergency exiting every time it has a slight chance of winning

[stuck bane]

Speculating is a strong word, speculating means we’re predicting it’ll actually happen

[hidden relic]

We seen y'all liked the commentary from me and Pory during the raffle, and are trying something different

[sudden totem]

Golisipod certified troll

[stuck bane]

Oh it’s gonna be different alright

[outer matrix]

It's nothing

[hidden relic]

Besides if my goal is for Pory to be the new me, it's the best way for them to connect to the community

Although I'll still be here at work during the start

[stuck bane]

That’s cool. And it is a good idea to engage with the community

I won’t be able to make it because dnd but I hope it’ll be fun

[marble meadow]

i shan’t cuz work tomorrow

[hidden relic]

That's what I hope

[outer matrix]

But why was the playthrough announcement made in the main announcement channel instead of the event one?

[stuck bane]

More watchers?

[ashen cloud]

oh so we are GREEN now

[hidden relic]

We also put the seminars in announcements, and we didn't announce anything in those

[molten loom]

I predict Pory wipes out at least twice

[stuck bane]

He did the pfp thing again

[hidden relic]

I'd say at least 3.

[molten loom]

So when/if Pory does do we react with skill issue?

[zealous lichen]

hey everyone

[stuck bane]

Hello

[sudden totem]

Imagine if we get sir fetched, that would be sick

[molten loom]

Hello

[zealous lichen]

im so sick

I just slept 13 hours

[stuck bane]

It certainly would be a way to announce Gen 8+ works and retroactively allow all regionals and their evos (this is a joke btw)

[molten loom]

Hope you get well soon

[stuck bane]

Hope you feel better

[hidden relic]

Nah

[outer matrix]

What Pokémon from Gen 8+ would even fit the 3 color playthrough criteria?

[ember bear]

nah we don't need people asking for gen 8 or above

[zealous lichen]

im ok with not seeing gen 8 but would love regional forms

[stuck bane]

None that I care for

[sudden totem]

Ahh yes my favorite dinner : my delusions

[ember bear]

i don't need more competition!

[fathom ridge]

Wait, smoliv

[stuck bane]

Not worth the baggage of Gen 8 sorry

[outer matrix]

Regionals will never happen due to the guessing game

[hidden relic]

Anyways, I'll see y'all later

[stuck bane]

See ya

[sudden totem]

Regionals will forever remain as alt sprites

[hidden relic]

Break time over

Have fun you colored crazies

[outer matrix]

And I honestly think that this reason is dumb

[molten loom]

Eon duo says hello

[stuck bane]

The only regional I can ever see being added is alolan exeggutor since it’s so wildly different from its kantonian counterpart

[grave jolt]

Just...exclude the regionals from the guessing game

[molten loom]

Actually can't really recall seeing the eon duo in the quiz

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/yippay-hisuian-goodra-gif-27534954

[stuck bane]

Gen 8

[grave jolt]

ah right

[stuck bane]

But it would work

[grave jolt]

Really, the only issue with H-Goodra is that there's a few normal goodra sprites based on it

But that's only a problem because H-Goodra can't exist in the game

I think that the Raichu, Meowth, Geodude, and Exeggutor lines coult work.

[stuck bane]

Possibly, but also remember these mons will be put into different poses by spriters so you still need to be able to tell differences

[zealous lichen]

right now I am hoping that my guess for the pokemon added is right

[stuck bane]

Alolan golem def, but the other 2 members of the line may have problem

[stuck bane]

Which is?

[zealous lichen]

the Gen 6 starters

[grave jolt]

I'm praying for the starters

[stuck bane]

I hope you’re wrong (no offense, I want Gen 5 first, Gen 6 is still good)

[zealous lichen]

thats fair

[grave jolt]

I could live with just litten, but I know most people would get upset at that

[twin phoenix]

Still guessing new adds? I see the role colors haven't changed.

[zealous lichen]

I never want to add just one starter

[stuck bane]

I had a friend who refused to evolve her torracat, gave it an eviolite and everything, it was fun

[ember bear]

last year's raffle:

[stuck bane]

(I gotchu)

[ember bear]

peak

[stuck bane]

But yeah was weird how it was just Primarina, but as seen by this vote people love their fairies

[twin phoenix]

Ooh, Meloetta had to beat Shaymin! 😮

[stuck bane]

Yeah last raffle was waaaay higher stakes than this one since it included mythicals, UB, and starter

[twin phoenix]

Meloetta accounts for a lot of my sprites, so I'm very happy it was added.

[stuck bane]

Meloetta was literally a miracle

[zealous lichen]

I really wanted Lunatone and Solrock to win that raffle

[twin phoenix]

Those two are great for looks and adding more Levitate and psychic type~

[ember bear]

im happy melo won

[zealous lichen]

they are some of my favorite pokemon

[twin phoenix]

Sprites I wouldn't have made if Meloetta wasn't a thing.

[zealous lichen]

I havent done any Meleotta

[stuck bane]

90 minutes remain until I cry myself to sleep knowing it’ll be 5 years until unova starters get in

[ornate tide]

Only Primarina whar

[twin phoenix]

Gunna take even longer for Gothitelle will get in, so I feel ya.

[ornate tide]

I thought that most people didn’t like Primarina

Even though it’s the best Gen 7 starter

[stuck bane]

Once again, Melo was the best option on that raffle, it’s still winning medals in contests to this day iirc

[zealous lichen]

I agree just something I havent been able to sprite

[stuck bane]

Gothitelle would be so good too, counterpart completion, shadow tag, etc.

[stuck bane]

That’s fair, Melo from what I’ve heard is very difficult to sprite, but the sprites that do exist are amazing, not as much sprite quantity but more than makes up for it in quality

[zealous lichen]

yeah

[twin phoenix]

A small body means more stuff to add in the background, but yeah, reducing details on the torso and arms is painful.

[ornate tide]

What has been sprited the most out of all the new pokemon

[zealous lichen]

the Kommo-o line

[twin phoenix]

You counted?

[zealous lichen]

or laurantis

[twin phoenix]

All of the winners have been getting lots of love.

[stuck bane]

Lot of new carbink sprites because of the contest

[ornate tide]

True

[cobalt river]

carbink gettin the love it deserves >:]

[stuck bane]

“Carbink has no sprite potential” same shit people said when cresselia was added time is a circle

[ornate tide]

Why do people even say mons have no sprite potential in the first place

[twin phoenix]

Thinking of making Carbink as a Palkia and/or Gothitelle.

[ember bear]

bias against pokemon that aren't their favorites

shrug

[ornate tide]

If Pyukumuku can have good sprites literally anything can have good sprites

💀

[stuck bane]

Because they’re dumb and angry that a Mon they wanted didn’t get in despite the fact this is a free game with free updates

[twin phoenix]

Cresselia is wonderful fusion material!!

[stuck bane]

Every Pokémon has sprite potential, even luvdisc, it’s the spriter that brings the potential, not the Pokémon

[twin phoenix]

We have lots of great spriters who can make anything look good.

[ornate tide]

True sprite potential is subjective to the spriter

[twin phoenix]

The people oughta put more faith in the process.

Not that the artists need it..

[molten loom]

And some that use their powers for evil

Like with Pinsir

[stuck bane]

Mr sir isn’t evil

Evil is breaking rule 2

And that evil is everywhere

[twin phoenix]

Not here and not now, at least~

[ornate tide]

I still don’t understand why people thought carbink sprites would be boring 💀

[stuck bane]

Zero creativity “rock and diamond make no pretty”

[twin phoenix]

Hmm.. same reason Clefairy would be boring? Plain face, few colors, cute?

[ornate tide]

Diamond and not being pretty doesn’t make any sense in the same sentence

[deft obsidian]

Diamond made everything pretty

[stuck bane]

I know

[ornate tide]

These guys was probably smoking something

[stuck bane]

Whatever it is I’ll need it to get through the next hour and a half

[twin phoenix]

Rock and diamond got me thinking of Rock and Stone from a game called Deep Rock Galactic. Maybe there can be references to it.

[ornate tide]

Bro rocks and diamonds make think of some of the most majestic things ever

Probably because I play legend of zelda to much .-.

[hidden relic]

I'm back for a lil, bit got the time and I seen this and wanted to say something fun.

Part of the reason I did Carbink contest first and not the other 2 is because in terms of numbers n stuff, spriters had shown they had a better understanding of Carbink in terms of designs and sprites than Kommo-o and Lurantis.

[stuck bane]

Ooooo interesting!

[ornate tide]

CRAZY

[twin phoenix]

I don't think I do, but I gave it a try.

[cobalt river]

carbink bodies lets go!

[deft obsidian]

Serperior

[ornate tide]

Carbink bodies are just floating goobers

[stuck bane]

I saw a few good kommo, a lot of good lurantis, but I def didn’t think carbink would be ahead of lurantis considering this:

[deft obsidian]

And Gothitelle :0

[twin phoenix]

Gothitelle has black feathers instead of white, maybe I should make it white silky ruffles instead.

[stuck bane]

I guess this list is useless because spriters literally don’t know what they want

[hidden relic]

Like even in contests pre-reveals, it had been showdown that Carbink is just more understood and had strong identity in it's designs

[ornate tide]

true…

[hidden relic]

Hell Carbink even got some entries in pre-reveal contests, while Kommo got none

[twin phoenix]

I wanted Gothitelle!

[ember bear]

so we should replace all votes with rng

🔥

[stuck bane]

We absolutely should (also gives unova a fighting chance)

[cobalt river]

tbh wanting something also doesnt equal being able to and knowing what to sprite with it to take lurantis as example - very pretty but its body has a lot of details going on you have to know how to work with and translate to fusions well
carbink is Rock and Diamond and Fluff. not too much but just enough

[hidden relic]

Not all people may be happy with the new toy, but they very much know how to use said toy.

[ornate tide]

I

[faint kiln]

spriters want everything and nothing at the same time, on one end woo yeah more things to sprite, but on the other end, goddamn it more things to sprite

[ornate tide]

Less is more sometimes

[stuck bane]

I could see that

[deft obsidian]

I mostly wanted swanna but made lot lilligant instead for that events, because i suck at wings

[faint kiln]

I just wanted grass types and I got one so I am satisfied

[grave jolt]

More options, but also more work

[cobalt river]

i wanted a fairy and im incredibly satisfied my gem training is paying off! love you carbink

[ornate tide]

I still wish Golisopod made it in the first special vote

[stuck bane]

Lurantis was a huge W tho some of the sprites are amazing

[twin phoenix]

I drew some Gothitelle designs and got looked over. Need to work harder for her.

[stuck bane]

We were this close to living in a world without the curse of pod

[stuck bane]

I believe in you, Gothitelle has great potential

[faint kiln]

every Pokémon is so sick, 🫵your favorite is VALID!!!

[ornate tide]

Even the pop vote if a few people didn’t give kommo o a three

We would of had the Golispod winning the popular vote

[twin phoenix]

On the other hand, my Pidove sprite was the first in the server. Ain't nobody gunna vote for or look at it.

[stuck bane]

And if it had been 1 raffle spin, goliso would’ve won, it’s actually crazy how many times this curse pops up

Pidove is literally our only dove it has so much potential and I’m sad people overlook it because “just another regional bird”

[faint kiln]

I freaking love that stupid bird I voted it a solid 2

[twin phoenix]

I'll put more faith in Golisopod next time. No more than 2 though.

[grave jolt]

We only have two of those in the game

[ornate tide]

The multiple raffle spins was way more entertaining tho

[faint kiln]

was very tempted to do 3, but I was biased and just

made all the grass guys 3

[ornate tide]

It was so funny to watch live

[stuck bane]

Doves? I’m p sure we don’t

[grave jolt]

Regional birds

[stuck bane]

Oh fair

[molten loom]

Way more intense as well

[twin phoenix]

It's a pigeon, not just any bird!

[stuck bane]

Carbink was still a great win out of the raffle

[twin phoenix]

It has a heart on its chest!!

[grave jolt]

Pidgeot line and the Talonflame line

[stuck bane]

A pigeon, a dove, a pheasant, it’s so many birds in 1

[ornate tide]

The mons I wanted in was probably Bink Mienshao Golisopod and Crawdaunt

Mienshao getting out was so sad

[twin phoenix]

I haven't made a Mienshao design yet but I want to. Only when the time comes.

[stuck bane]

Turns out craw would’ve offered nothing to competitive since it would’ve been instabanned, so it was the only one I was rooting against, and it kept surviving and I was like “no, No, NO”

[twin phoenix]

Why ban it?

Idk about the game enough.

[ember bear]

adaptability?

[full bison]

Adaptability plus good STAB I guess

[stuck bane]

Adaptability probably, idk ana said it would’ve been

[twin phoenix]

Doesn't Porygon have that?

[ornate tide]

It would be instabanned probably 💀 if Rain gets banned tho craw is fine

[twin phoenix]

Oh, rain..

[stuck bane]

Yeah but apparently craw would’ve been worse as dark/water

Oh yeah rain plus adaptability plus stab, that’s not broken

[ornate tide]

It would yeah

[ember bear]

i mean yeah adaptability with normal is kinda meh

[ornate tide]

Because you don’t get to fuse with melop

125 water fighting adaptability in rain probably goes insane

[twin phoenix]

[full bison]

Adaptability Boomburst with Noivern tho

[weak trellis]

late but I mostly didn't want crab or pelican in so I'm glad

[ornate tide]

Boomburst got banned

[weak trellis]

rip shao, bee, and slurp though

[ornate tide]

No more poryvern

[weak trellis]

deserved

[full bison]

Fair. It's arguably the strongest move ever so I get it

[ornate tide]

Yeh 140bp no drawbacks

[ember bear]

and since it's sound it also bypasses sub

[ornate tide]

When Blace gets in the game Mind blown is going to do unreal work 💀

[weak trellis]

the intended drawback of "no STAB" being easy to bypass

[weak trellis]

...about that...

[ornate tide]

Alakazam would be instabanned

[weak trellis]

(it is in already but it's postgame for electrode I think)

[ornate tide]

Alaode isn’t as bad

No stab

[weak trellis]

checks* and exeggutor

[ember bear]

imagine if steel beam wasn't gen 8

[ornate tide]

Kadabra Blace is strong enough

[full bison]

Does MindBlown work with Rock Head?

[ember bear]

all steel types can learn it

[ornate tide]

Idk about that

[ornate tide]

Jirachi Zam my beloved

[weak trellis]

so probably using this

[ornate tide]

Back in old fusions showdown we got Gen 8 moves

[ornate tide]

It’s kinda slow tho

[weak trellis]

yea its 98 speed which actually

can go up to 133 if you don't mind taking a hit to special attack

[twin phoenix]

That face though..

[full bison]

I just has a scary thought. Imagine Sneasler gets added, and it getsfused with Togekiss for Serene Grace Dire Claw

That's worth an instaban if I say so personally

[grave jolt]

If you don't mind bugs, he goes fast

[weak trellis]

lose out on mind blown but that also works

[full bison]

No Mind Blown, but I imagine stuff like that is how Stored Power gets banned

[ember bear]

i don't think speed boost is allowed to begin with

[dense perch]

pory REALY want use to watch his event XD

[molten loom]

Well it's of 6.3 so of course people want to watch it anyways

[dense perch]

i do not remembers that they have been so much insistence on a playthrough

[molten loom]

I do not recall any instance of playthroughs done like this

[full bison]

Think the mystery two slots could be revealed/hinted at in the playthrough, or no?

[rain locust]

this is a top tier mon

[stuck bane]

First hour of the playthrough is customizing a character

[twin phoenix]

Am I tripping? ||Blue didn't get brighter, I probably am. I don't remember it being sky blue. :(||

My first hour of any game that has customization always goes to perfecting my character.

I think my red turned orange! Stupid sleeping pills!

[velvet root]

I hate that noone did my Plague doc outfit request
Im too bad for those cloths so I asked multiple times

[twin phoenix]

I gotta make the Wallace scarf and the Colress outfit. :3

Is referencing official Pokémon characters allowed?

[stuck bane]

Should be

[ember bear]

why not

surely nintendo isn't gonna nuke you for it

[velvet root]

Do you happen to have time for my request too?

[twin phoenix]

Sorry, I didn't know I've been requested.

What did you want?

Oh, a plague doctor outfit? I'm not familiar with those aside from the mask.

[velvet root]

I didnt specifically ask you but you happen to write about it

[velvet root]

Could do the mask with a melon or tophat or robe
And the body part basically is a smoking most of the time

It definetly would make me super Happy I love plague docs and theyr stile

[twin phoenix]

A melon for a hat?

[velvet root]

Thats most common idea of a plague doc

You dont have to cover the hair if you dont want to

But yeah I would be hella Happy to have something like that as Customization option for my char

[tender plank]

nono it definitely did, i remember blue being about the same as my pfp

[velvet root]

It did get beighter

[twin phoenix]

I do like making clothes for humans. Guess I'm downloading the character template and moving it to the computer.

[velvet root]

[outer matrix]

quick, compare the role colors with the colors of the elemental monkeys

[velvet root]

No

[outer matrix]

exactly

[twin phoenix]

Pretty sure Simipour's blue is darker.

And Simisage's green not so yellow.

[ashen cloud]

when will we know 😭

[stoic sluice]

Colors!

Again?!

[full bison]

Clearly the only proper time to add the elemental monkeys is when Simisear would be number 721

[stuck bane]

Blue?

[stuck bane]

This might be petilil green but maybe that’s just my delusions

[outer matrix]

elemental monkey time?

[velvet root]

TOLD YOU

[gray vine]

i feel like the moneys are just wasted spaces in this game tho

[velvet root]

Gen 6 reveal is real

[stoic sluice]

Yes gen 6 starters!

[ember bear]

op

[gray vine]

i thought that was clear

[dense perch]

hello, I'm holding a custom base event with the new pokemon so if you're interested, feel free to join #1222376526805209201 message

[velvet root]

EVERYONE CALLED ME CRAZY

[gray vine]

i doubt anyone did

[velvet root]

2 to be fair

[gray vine]

the starter stuff was genually accepted

[outer matrix]

are you sure? even a screenshot to proove so?

[gray vine]

this is the internet my guy

just believe him

[last pecan]

gen 6 starter is real

[fathom ridge]

The conspiracy was true

[elfin forge]

We were right all along

[last pecan]

but that still leaves those 2 slots

what goes there

[stuck bane]

Also obligatory posting this

[stoic sluice]

Do not cry

[outer matrix]

photoshoped /j

[stoic sluice]

It's still cool

[full bison]

Was hoping for Unova starters because we'd be one closer to Hisui triple fusion but this is fine too

[velvet root]

@clear lichen yeah you were right

[stoic sluice]

That we got any starters

[last pecan]

its so Serperiover

[full bison]

Contrary availability would've been hype, but I guess Protean is pretty neat too

As long as it isn't that stupid nerfed version from ScarVi

[outer matrix]

there's still more besides the starters I think

[deft obsidian]

What is happening? Did they skipped gen 5 starters?

[outer matrix]

gen 6 starters

[deft obsidian]

Aw

Man

[sudden totem]

No way

[velvet root]

They probably add the starters in the order they got voted a year ago

[deft obsidian]

Well it's better than plus and minun

[prime dust]

gen 5 had the lowest poll vote first round

[last pecan]

Froakie is 485, someone quick

line up the numbers

[velvet root]

It fits with carbink

[full bison]

Maybe Gen 5 starters will get revealed alongside the Gen 7 starters and we get a fast tracked Hisui Triple Fusion, Totally not coping

[deft obsidian]

485-493?

[velvet root]

No

Water is always the last 3 numvers

[deft obsidian]

Well everyone hate emboar so won't be surprised

[velvet root]

I dont

[clear lichen]

Hey guess I was wrong

Nyways time to do math

Froakie was 485?

[empty pendant]

there are emboar likers

[stuck bane]

Carbink is 478

So water starters ended at 487 if froskie is 485

[empty pendant]

I"m not one, but they exist

[last pecan]

it means it ends with 487

[hardy tartan]

k so i'm showing up 15 minutes late with starbucks
what've i missed?
any stream leaks?

[velvet root]

Theyr numbers are after Carbink

[last pecan]

thats gotta be 3 more

[full bison]

Samurott and Serperior don't deserve to be dragged down by the boar.

[last pecan]

no way they end on 487

[clear lichen]

Froakie is the final starter in the dex order

Usually

[last pecan]

my guess is 5 more revealed mons, same lines or not

[hardy tartan]

shenanigans?

ah, a froakie revealed?

[clear lichen]

If it was, it'd start at 479 for Chespin

[velvet root]

Or they make the 500 full

[clear lichen]

Unless I'm mathing wrong

[hardy tartan]

and a pidgey hat

[clear lichen]

I could be I'm not smart

[prime dust]

chespin is 479 - 481
fenekin is 482 - 484
froakie is 485 - 487

[last pecan]

488, 489, 490

[clear lichen]

That would line up with Carbink

[last pecan]

and then the gap 2

[clear lichen]

As expected

[stuck bane]

Wait does that make sense?
Carb is 478
479-487 is kalos

[prime dust]

you aren't

[stuck bane]

87 not 88, unless they confirmed ash greninja or some shit?

[prime dust]

with froakie being 485, minus 6 for chespin number

[full bison]

Mienshao cope survives

[clear lichen]

So that would mean we still don't know the missing 2

Lmao

[prime dust]

we're still missing alot

[clear lichen]

Still betting on Volbeat and Illumise

[velvet root]

-7 you have to count the froakie too when doing the math

[clear lichen]

As in the 2 that were in between I believe Kommo-O and Fomantis?

Unless I'm hallucinating and there never was a gap

[full bison]

Please have it be Golisopod or Mienshao, please please

[prime dust]

also missing whatever is between carbink and chespin

[clear lichen]

I'm still betting on something disappointing

[clear lichen]

Isn't Carbink 478 and Chespin 479

[deft obsidian]

Chat look at pory statue, "we love bugs and cool rock " can be that crab from gen5?

[full bison]

I'd be down for Musharna , araquanid, and a longshot Naganadel

[velvet root]

There is nothing

[stuck bane]

Wait does that make sense?
Carb is 478
479-487 is kalos
488-500 is 12 more slots
Plus 474 and 475

If we go up to 500 unova still has a chance (but I feel like most popular starters would’ve been the finale )

[prime dust]

right, my brain is fried, woke up from a nap

[clear lichen]

Are we going up to 500?

[prime dust]

possible

[last pecan]

i doubt it

[stuck bane]

So 14 slots remain if it is 500, 4 slots remain if only 490

[full bison]

How many slots would the UBs be?

[prime dust]

way too many

[last pecan]

20 new mons is a good amount

470 to 490

[clear lichen]

UBs would be like 11 slots?

[velvet root]

I hope so
Ngl they should stop at 494 and next time add unova so embaor keeps the 500

[clear lichen]

If I'm calculating right

[last pecan]

500 mons for 500k makes sense

[stuck bane]

Wait that’s actually such good copium

[full bison]

Something I just thought about in regards to Naganadel

[stuck bane]

I’m headcanoning that

[deft obsidian]

There is 12 UB?

[last pecan]

minior moment tho

[clear lichen]

Idk lol

[last pecan]

thats theorizing

[clear lichen]

Let me check

[velvet root]

Btw he said the colors is the starters

[stuck bane]

However, if it’s 500 unova starters still have a chance

[full bison]

When Poipole evolves, it's head becomes it's abdomen, right? So would Naganadel head fusions use the abdomen?

[clear lichen]

I was correct, there are 11 UBs

Fitting, since UBs all have prime numbers as their stats

And 11 is a prime number

Even before USUM it was at 7

[elfin forge]

Don’t we still have 2 mystery slots?

[clear lichen]

Ye

[deft obsidian]

With magearna 12

[clear lichen]

Some people think we will go to 500

[clear lichen]

Magearna isn't a UB

[velvet root]

Also Pory is nuzlocking

[dense perch]

so camerupt has a chance ?

[clear lichen]

Anyways, if there are 14 slots left and 11 UBs, unfortunately I cannot cope about UBs+Cosmog line

Since that would be 15

[velvet root]

Yes

[sick robin]

hold up UBs are confirmed?

[last pecan]

i doubt all the UBs would get in

[stuck bane]

I guess I’ll be happy in 5 years when unova starters are finally added, see you guys then

[dense perch]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-camerupt-deedrill-gif-11481932

[clear lichen]

However, this would be under the assumption that there are 500 Pokemon

[drowsy elm]

Do we have the unova starters yet ?

[prime dust]

no they arent

[deft obsidian]

Gen 6 box legendary?

[stuck bane]

No

[sick robin]

ah whoops

[drowsy elm]

man fuck

[prime dust]

no, only starters confirmed are gen 6

[clear lichen]

No, someone suggested the idea and I'm entertaining it

[drowsy elm]

[stuck bane]

[clear lichen]

Anyways, I doubt it'd be the 11 UBs

[prime dust]

gen 5 had the lowest popularity of the starters when the first poll was done

[deft obsidian]

😔

[full bison]

The UBs would be cool but I'm not that convinced it's happening RN

[clear lichen]

Since we don't know if we are even going to 500

[stuck bane]

We deadass gonna get every region before we get half of unova

[clear lichen]

And that'd be 11 fucking slots

[prime dust]

11 slots which could go somewhere else

like a few legends is fine

but not 11

[stuck bane]

Yeah main poll also picked kommo and salazzle at third, main is mostly people who aren’t in the server

[clear lichen]

The UBs are either all at once or none at all imo

I doubt they will be using 11 slots for just them now

[prime dust]

nah we'll just specifically only add buzz and phrea

[full bison]

Poipole could MAYBE break free from thembut I heavily doubt it would

[zealous lichen]

What's the word Ive just been napping

[clear lichen]

Bug propaganda

Ykw, not against it

[stuck bane]

You won

[clear lichen]

Bug is a peak type

[full bison]

Gen 6 starters

[clear lichen]

(Unless it's competitively)

[slow rampart]

we need justice for unova, so many good pokemon 😩

[zealous lichen]

Lol yay the clues were right there

We are still waiting for the 2 stage pokemon right?

[last pecan]

im still, so surprised i wasnt able to snuff out the starters coming

[clear lichen]

Either a 2 stage or 2 single stages that are linked

[last pecan]

i used to be so good at gathering the new mons 😔 smhsmh i used to send out hints

[velvet root]

Even tho they literally told us

[clear lichen]

That's what I think

[full bison]

Sadly Zoroark, Volcarona, Haxorus, and Hydreigon were added already and those are the big guys in terms of Unova fame

[prime dust]

there's only what, 3 of those?

[zealous lichen]

It's easy to miss if you were not thinking the reb blue green were not starters

[clear lichen]

That I can think of on the spot, yeah

[sick robin]

mayyybe wimpod/golisopod have a chance still? i'm probably just coping LMAO

[clear lichen]

Unless you want to include legendaries

[full bison]

Gigalith, Mienshao, and Braviary deserve better

[clear lichen]

Or UBs

[deft obsidian]

+Krookodile and scolipede

[last pecan]

even the playthru announcement had Red, Blue, and Green

[clear lichen]

UBs would add an extra 3 to that discussion

[prime dust]

there's a bunch of 2 stage mons, but only like 3 single stage teams

[velvet root]

Imagine he reveals more mons in this run

[slow rampart]

I'd love to have Scrafty, it's so underrated
Mienshao is also fantastic
among the few fighting types that I like

[prime dust]

assuming he makes it that far

[clear lichen]

Since Pheromosa+Buzzwole, Kartana+Celesteela and Blacephalon+Stakataka are counterparts

[last pecan]

i imagine other planned mons would be coded into the game already

[velvet root]

Probably the whole thing

[clear lichen]

Then also Xern+Yvel

[last pecan]

it is a nuzlocke

[prime dust]

im only talking stuff on the poll this time around

not factoring in other mons

[clear lichen]

But they probably would add them alongside Zygarde, though there is precedent for adding them alone with Necrozma

As for non legendaries

[last pecan]

Minior moment lets go Minior woo baby we love Minior

[clear lichen]

At the top of my head, Volbeat and Illumise, Zangoose and Seviper, Durant and Heatmor

There's definitely more than those

[last pecan]

its not Miniover just yet

Solrock and Lunaton

[full bison]

How would Zygarde work? it has3 forms, but the lore justifies it taking aboutany form

[slow rampart]

ahhh man we need those so bad
xerneas+ho oh for the ultimate rainbow fusion

[last pecan]

brothers of Minior

wooo we love Minior

[prime dust]

the downside being durant and heatmor aren't actually linked properly in the poll

[slow rampart]

lugia+yveltal for funni hand birds

[clear lichen]

I still don't get that whatsoever

They're definitely tied together very close

Predator and Prey

If you think of one, you are likely thinking of the other

[full bison]

Are Zangoose and Seviper tied together?

[prime dust]

yes

they are on the same part of the poll

[clear lichen]

Zangoose and Seviper just hate each other

[full bison]

Wow, then Heatmor and Durant being separate makes even less sense

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-gif-18174494

[last pecan]

HORRIBLE REALIZATION

QUILADIN IS IN IF

[deft obsidian]

I had lopunny/delphox posted as Zoroark few months ago

[clear lichen]

Though I'm pretty sure mongoose prey on snakes

Even if Zangoose and Seviper are only rivals

[zealous lichen]

What's the problem with that?

[cyan plover]

Zangoose and serviper would be hype

[clear lichen]

In that way you can see them in the same way as Heatran and Durant

Except the game directly states Heatmor preys on Durant

[last pecan]

ugly

[clear lichen]

While Zangoose preying on Seviper is only a theory that would be backed up by real life

[zealous lichen]

It's goofy but I wouldn't say ugly

[full bison]

Mienshao cope won't die here

[velvet root]

You guys have something in common

[deft obsidian]

Heatran?

[clear lichen]

My brain is die

Heatmor

Would Heatran prey on Durant though? It might

I feel like Heatran gives ant eating vibes

[velvet root]

I mean Heatran is a frog

[clear lichen]

And hey, both Heatran and Heatmor start with Heat

[velvet root]

Or well Toed

[clear lichen]

Maybe Heatmor calls up Heatran to help it hunt for Durant

[full bison]

So what's the Delphox/Greninja/Chesnaut triple fusion gonna look like? Some sort of magic knight?

[clear lichen]

Because Heatmor is a fraud and gets destroyed by Rock Slide

[velvet root]

The ultimate dnd player

[clear lichen]

Who knows

[deft obsidian]

@inland geyser made one

[clear lichen]

Jesus christ Heatmor only has 66 defences

[velvet root]

Show us

[deft obsidian]

I'm not widecloude 😔

They also didn't post it to spritework

[clear lichen]

Yknow, for being the supposed predator of Durant, Heatmor fares pretty darn shit against it despite the type advantage

[full bison]

So it'll be a surprise

[inland geyser]

Creepy Hunchbacked Swamp Wizard

[clear lichen]

You'd hope to have more than 85/66 physical bulk up against Hustle Rock Slide

And to have speed actually higher than Durant's

Remember, ants are very social animals and form big colonies

If Heatmor struggles against 1 Durant, how would it fight against many?

[velvet root]

He acts weird in the viridian forest

What does he plan
Whats there

[coarse karma]

I'm so flippin' happy rn 😄

[prisma widget]

respectfully if i see that thing im stucking a bullet through its head

[clear lichen]

Is he trying to find an ant in the forest perhaps

[unkempt kernel]

So uh, what’s new that was added?

[clear lichen]

A durable ant

[full bison]

Surprise! They've started adding Gen 8 Pokemon and the first one's Zarude!

[inland geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/arcane-shield-gif-21856860

[unkempt kernel]

Cus I can’t join the event

[clear lichen]

Idk my mind is on Durant right now because I was talking about how poorly Heatmor does against Durant

[coarse karma]

then again i'm biased cause my discord username is literally Chespining

[deft obsidian]

Gen 6 starters

[coarse karma]

time to make a fusion of Totodile/Chespin & (non-if)-Spheal/Chespin. :3

[unkempt kernel]

Which we knew, what about 474 and 475?

Or do we still not know?

[coarse karma]

rumor is might be numel not confirmed, but in the stream pory has an egg

[full bison]

Perhaps he's in the forest looking for a certain new mushroom Pokemon hiding somewhere among us...

[deft obsidian]

Amoonguss

[unkempt kernel]

Oh damn

[clear lichen]

Every non legendary can be in an egg

[coarse karma]

yeah so still a mystery atm

[clear lichen]

Just saying

[unkempt kernel]

I assume the character customisation was shown off?

[coarse karma]

yup. which is why i said not confirmed what it is

[clear lichen]

Alright then

[stoic sluice]

Sewadle?

[coarse karma]

numel is what every one else is guessing, my bets is on a different pokemon atm

[clear lichen]

Would fit for Viridian Forest but so do most bugs

[coarse karma]

I wish.

[stoic sluice]

I to

[unkempt kernel]

Not a two stage line

[clear lichen]

And notably I'm pretty sure Remix puts Larvesta in Viridian Forest and I don't think a fire bug should be put in a forest

[full bison]

Larv makes more sense for a desert

[coarse karma]

yeah it does put larv