#pif-hoenn-discussion
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carbonk still has 2 chances, so round down , swrilix still only has a change of 1:2 ratio
I felt like jangmo-o was more hated or its just cuz i hate it more 
You forgot the chaos factor, always consider the chaos factor

Also just kind of how I felt about it
Fair
it's so weird to me that i'm not hyped for any of these mons, like i'm ok with them existing and very happy for having new mons, i'm just more neutral this time around. anyways time to get to work on some fomantis and carbink fusions cause I have some ideas.
The moment when you feel every emotion in the current moment possible (ngl I kinda get it)
i wonder what was it
Im hyped for 2/3 so i cant complain even if my preferred pick wasnt even close
wow that's more tha some pokemon that are currently in the game
Everything in the vote has their reasons, kommo fighting types and clanging scales, lurantis contrary and pajama pants, Carbink fairy type and competitive wall, so far we’ve actually struck a nice balance of getting most general groups happy in 1 regard with so few slots.
But yeah out of the three kommo was the most meh imo, don’t hate it tho
I really don't want it to be this way, but as happy as I am to have gotten new pokemon I can't help but dislike what we got.
I think the lowest sprited mon thats in the game has 250 sprites (one of the oricorios) and diancie has 150~ sprites
This ain’t as big as the last vote, we’re gonna have to choose our battles and lower standards since we’re only going up to 480ish. I’d love any unova representation, but I’ll settle for lurantis and kinda carbink for that cause I know it’s near impossible
In the game that isn't one of the new ones, at least.
Yeah i havent checked middle stage kommo-o, that guy has to have like 15 sprites
Carbink seems to have the least, but also it was just announced today like 6 hours ago
Ngl I can get behind all of the chosen winners. I got Gothitelle fusion ideas for all of them.
Carbink and Lurantis are basically dead slots as far as I'm concerned, leaving me with just Kommo-o.
Imagine if the winner was Gothitelle though 
True! 
I voted a 2 on jangmo-o a 2 on fomantis and a 0 on carbink. 
as for the other rafflers 2 on tropius,3 on corphish, 2 on wimpod, 3 on swirlix, and 2 on Wingull so basically i'd be ok with anything winning. like I said it isn't that I hate carbink, it's just a weird opinion really.
Gotta make more sprites now that I got the Buffler blessing.
Hopefully we get a gothitelle/gogoat sweep next time around
Where is my shadow tag that comes with actual offense 
With diancie as the legendary to lead them
On a psychic type
But isnt the event over?
Oh, I had an idea for a Christmas Gothitelle several years before joining this project. Perhaps Gogoat can be suitable fusion material for recreating it as a sprite..
471: jang
472: haka
473: kommo
474: ????
475: ????
476: Fomantis
477: lurantis
478: Carbink
In case there’s any confusion
You have so many ideas 
Where Bink
Carbink already takes the spot.
That was from before the raffle today fixed now
gg
Ribbon and I talked about the attitude and pose we wanted to convey and utilize and when we realized we wanted to do the ultimate soft Furret Zekrom full cutey mode, they designed a seated pose
Still grieving what could have been: a cake, a crab, even a pelican, instead we got…. a rock. 
I voted 1 on kommo-o and 0 for Lurantis and Carbink.
Contrasting, I voted 0 for Tropius and Corphish, 2 on wingull , and 3 on Golisopod Ribombee and Swirlix.
No it doesn’t reread the announcement
471: jang
472: haka
473: kommo
474: ????
475: ????
476: Fomantis
477: lurantis
478: Carbink
oh it's just swirlix and slurpuff, calling it now.
474 and 475 are prob staff pick
bink: 3
pod: 3
mienshao: 3
pelipper: 2
bee: 1
craw: 1
lurantis: 1
slurpuff: 0
tropius: 0
oh true, true! that's how it was last year! :D
very excited to see@
Sir, you haven’t been crusing new Pokémon discussion under the influence of any copium have you?
I said it so casually cause it was a joke.
Among your Gogoat collection, is there a Caprity (Palworld) reference?
Frog may just add the Barbaracle line as the last two spots.
Can never be too sure
Gogoat needs a 3 for this alone
Dont get your hopes up partner
Frog decides we're all wrong and adds the Cosmog line
Or Amoonguss line
He could also add crabrawler since that’s the one mentioned in the meme about him
AMOGUS
so no more new mon?
we still have a dex gap of 2
471: jang
472: haka
473: kommo
474: ????
475: ????
476: Fomantis
477: lurantis
478: Carbink
In case there’s any confusion
inb4 wingull. all we know is it most likely is a 2 stage (basic and an evo) with how weirdly it's placed in the middle of all the entries like that. (or could be a twin set like something like plusle/minun)
I’m just here to spread misinformation. 
it has to be the monkies right
i think it will be zigzagoon because tomorrow is my birthday and it would be the best birthday present ever if zigzagoon gets added :)
oranguru and permissian
Monkies would be funny
zigzagoon fandom is dying like if ur a true zigazagooner
LIKE
but it's obviously not Archenover yet
more like zigazagone
I made this thing once upon a time.
I also think there’s like 18 2-slotters from unova so yeah lot of options it could be from what I’m overseeing at least
Floofy goober
oh shoot! i forgot my chicken tenders in the oven for 2 hours o-o brb 😰
Zigzagoon backsprite
Are you cooking Torchic!
I LOVE IT
471: jang
472: haka
473: kommo
474: ???? (Tirtouga)
475: ???? (Carracosta)
476: Fomantis
477: lurantis
478: Carbink
479: ???? (Archen)
480: ???? (Archeops)
Guys what do we think of a list like this since tyrantrum aurorus proved fossils don’t need to be next to eachother
This may be the first time we go 24 hours after a new pokemon reveal and we don’t get a Gardevoir body. 
i dont like it because i dont like tirtouga
Maybe or it can be. . . . .
I don’t like you
erm... Bwiased
Naaaah trust
:v isnt carbonk gard already been made
doesnt seem so
471: jang
472: haka
473: kommo
474: ???? (Karrablast)
475: ???? (Escavalier)
476: Fomantis
477: lurantis
478: Carbink
479: ???? (Shelmet)
480: ???? (Accelgor)
If it has not in sprite gallery as far as I can tell
Could be this
🗿oh it was diance head
Wait no we need more bug types this list might be better
this was in my top 3 favorite small sprites from that competition
carbonk meab there will be place for diance right?
471: jang
472: haka
473: kommo
474: ???? (diancie)
475: ???? (kingambit)
476: Fomantis
477: lurantis
478: Carbink
479: ???? (gholdengo)
480: ???? (great tusk)
I was right
chat who has the best carbink palette so i can go save it
I don't think they're adding gen 9 evolutions 
471: jang
472: haka
473: kommo
474: ???? (Cutiefly)
475: ???? (Ribombee)
476: Fomantis
477: lurantis
478: Carbink
479: ???? (Swirlix)
480: ???? (Slurpuff)
Here
naw we beat slurp out fair and square it doesnt get another shot
Although I have a feeling the 480 is a single slot if there was a chance Slurpuff could’ve won
471: jang
472: haka
473: kommo
474: ???? (gholdengo)
475: ???? (gholdengo)
476: Fomantis
477: lurantis
478: Carbink
479: ???? (gholdengo)
480: ???? (gholdengo)
Yeah
Is this the beginning of the curse of slurp????
:'(
Guess we're memeing Courage's predictions.
Hipposweep
People tend to do that, it’s fun tho
This reminds me of the factory meme
curse if king mindas
Frog please do this
its just the beginning of the Slur
Hipposweep
I wouldn’t be mad if Slurpuff got added as a surprise, we’d get so many fun desert themed fusions.
Hippowdon
I still with some hope
Yes
Then neither does Golisopod
i guess the slot was mod pick
pod gets a pass for being Based and Exitpilled
Golisopod without emergency exit 
nah thank YOU for cUTE

glosipod with huge power
Uuuuuu
Slurpuff giving a bunch of Pokemon access to Fairy STAB and Unburden could be fun to see
Pair this with Sitrus Berry and Belly Drum and then u sweep.
it was a phys fairy mon
Aggron/Golisopod would go so hard
it has equal atk and spa
drum banned in showdown
i only see it use play rough
It is technically one of our only fairy type heads, but similar to Granbull, not really a special attacker so one of the less needed fairy heads, could still do stuff with it
bc drum
yeah its never beating out clef or kiss or sylveon
in the head department
dont clip me out of context
🫵
Fire Emblem?
wha happen??
What's marianne pointing at me for?
And now what do you guys hope for the last reveals?
All fairy type heads currently available (and only ¾ of them are good Moonblast users):
Clefable
Sylveon
Togekiss
Granbull
Iirc all the others we can obtain are:
Florges
Comfey
Slurpuff
Aromatisse
Xerneas
Vetoing Carbink 
Best girl is from Fire Emblem, yes
Mienshao's number one supporter here
"Head department"
Guess we found our best girls. Tomboy meets Blue Hair.
losing your streak
Anyways off topic
Bernadetta is better imo
Understandable. Mordred is neat
Carbink's fine. Good sprite potential and maybe makes Diancie more possible. Emphasis on maybe.
Personnel problems
Minato Aqua, I miss her.
Same
Marianne is 2nd best imo
lowers rifle
What does Carbink offer in fusion material that Sabeleye didn’t? 
But dont worry, I will see soon
Koseki Bijou

fluff
BLUE
and rock texture
True, the Carbink/Aurorus was cute.
high def fairy
Sabs crystal features are like
I assume you’re talking sprite potential as they obv have wildly different mechanics, the fluff thing, floating stone, ||I don’t think sableyes are cannibals
||
Its eyes and maybe one big gem
tasty snack 
carbonk is like the lowest rank in the cave food chain
And Carbink fan, what do you think about the sweet sweet victory?
i want to go sprite some carbink with baby pokemon but im in a warm bath and spriting requires hands.
I think the vote was rigged 
Not if you’re flexible
Watching the vote live was a emotional rollercoaster tho

Swap out the slurps for golisipod and we have a perfect lineup 
Aye
Rooting for Florges line for next time cause we could use another pure fairy that can provide good heads AND bodies.
We sweeping 4 Alola
I will die on the Mienshao hill
Gen 7 best Gen
at least this is real now :v
Watching Mienshao and Golisopod die was very sad ngl
Plus the oricorio flower mechanic can be used with the Florges line too!
Another incorporation of that mechanic
Well, sometimes the wheel has a little strange movement but I guess the destiny just grant your wish
toucannon when
Cooking up some heat
Bro I’m unova man I’m with you:
Mienshao: adds more fighting types, great attack, and good special attack and speed, and the only fighting type with access to regenerator, also can bring shaolin martial arts references to differentiate from Sawk and Throh, and is the only pure fighting type to learn aura sphere (it lends itself to being a good special attacker too), and also the only pure fighting type to learn bounce naturally, and the only pure fighting type to learn calm mind, and the only pure fighting type with access to double slap, and the only non-legendary fighting type with access to drain punch naturally
When Frog is cooking
he is the food 
My undog pick is the Olive tree getting added
smoliv?
I don't think we're doing Gen 9 pokes for a while sadly
If we going full alola we need comfey as well, thems the rules
At the beginning of the stream Pory played ranbats then said alright I will add carbink right after Pory lost to anaconja
wait maybe for IF2
If we haven't added Farigiraf or Annihilape' I doubt Arboliva has a chance
Not until Mangosteen with legs
It’s either a big coincidence or it’s rigged 💀
Golisopod would have won if it wasn't elimination spins
what is ranbats
Random battles
ah
PIF random battles
We have enough thirsty art, we don't need Tsareena to give us more
running bats
Thank gosh
Sounds like a joke of like “ok stop beating me in battles I’ll add Carbink” as a way to kinda jokingly say “uncle”
i left at the start to wait for the reveal but then was 10 minutes late to the reveal cause a friend kept DMing me lol
Is that just Zubat/Machoke?
(Can’t think of a running-mon
)
We need Tsareena so we can make funny baby pokemon fusions that are just baby head and jacked legs
Then Carbink actually won 💀
hoooly shit i missed that
The secret line turns out to be salazzle
Well, also Pory was controlling the wheel so... is a little suspicious convenience
The wheel is random
No Shinx Sherlock, But I'm sure a 2 stager will be added.

The wheel can be weighted I assume
What happened to Dorothea
On advanced, which the wheel was not on
I mean, turning the wheel, my bad
Ye that’s what I’m saying I think it’s just a coincidence
I have no clue
Adding both Salazzle and Tsareena would probably result in sprite art that would give the game a T rating if it got ESRB rated lol
it was actually rigged in golisopod's favour it's just so unlucky it lost anyway
The turning of the wheel on the finale was insane
Are you absolutely sure it’s a 2 stager instead of minior and minior core form?
Nothing is ever in golisopods favor
Pods curse is never broken
It has been fleeced so many times
nah i doubt theyll add both forms seperately, it works too much like aegislash's ability
The question is how will pod finally get it when clearly arceus does not want it to be added to pif
That would be so cool!!!
Imagine how good Pod would be if Emergency Exit only switched at end of turn
But unlike Aegi ability their stat totals actually change
At least now with Carbink in, another pokemon can have the Bruxish Situation
A single monkey line can win
It’s no where near the bruxish situation
yeah ur right, even plusle and minun could possibly fit here since they were a pair in the poll. its an open window fir anything rn
idek what you mean
that'd be awesome if it was legitimately just one monkey that got in
When we all mod our games to replace stunfisk with golisopod 
troll behavior
Why?
You literally can
Just add dragapult at that point
running kakuna
Meteor form has like 500 BST, core form has like 520 BST with bonuses to speed
How much viral the monkeys are?
Wydm by the bruxish situation
yeah but you're implying aegislash's form change doesnt change its stats
Not as much as Bruxish
Ah you didn't see the video
Whar
440 meteor 500 core
if I'm advocating for any Pokemon from Gen 8 onwards to be added, it's gonna be the Applin line. Purely because Flapple would invite Bakugan references lol
Plus even though Bruxish was a troll pick (and also a great pick I still stand by that) it was only one pokemon while the monkeys are six whole slots
Meteor needs to be buffed
No, aegislash does change stats, but that’s just switching your offense and defense, minior gets an actual 60 BST stat boost so it’s not just swapping stats, it’s increasing them too
Oh that
The Bruxish Situation happens when a pokemon is viral, love or hate, if people talk a lot of that pokemon it just become viral
Bruxishmas was fucking hilarious lol. Best Christmas gift.
Again, at least Bruxish offers an interesting color palette and gives us more 💅🏻-mons.
Carbink is not nearly as hated as bruxish
Mfs are just butthurt they didn’t get slurpuff
eh, i still think it wouldnt have a seperate form
Perhaps...
Bruxish is cool though, slay mon slay all year
It really was!! Bruxish is such a great colour palette to work with its perfect
Just imagine a gift with Bruxish form
i liked slurpuff more than carbink but i also liked carbink quite a bit
said the carbonk enjoyer 
Mfs are just butthurt they didn’t get slurpuff
F I S H U G L Y is the best thing out of this server
Well then we’ll see when minior is added
I'm fine with Carbink, Lurantis was the one I wanted from the special vote anyways
I got a grass type, I am happy
Tbf, they put ALOT of effort into trying to rig it for Slurpuff, I’m glad competitive has something new to play with though
even if I didn't, the options were all good
On teh one hand, I'm happy to not get slurpuff, but on the other we all just know the next raffle is going to be Slurpuff Summer
Lurantis GAVE US PANTS ! 
On a less controversial note, Kommo-o should give us some cool fusions
not the real pant 
Is not being hated only, is about being the topic of conversation
its like eepy pant
Which pokemon really needed pants
Saggy pants in the streets, pajama pants in the sheets
machop 
Lopunny
Machoke 
Gallade to cover up that odd oval growth it has
bro said on a less controversial note and said one of the most controversial things people don’t like spriting kommo o’s dreadlocks or something
All of them
I can't wait to see the fish pokemon in pants
💀
If I can't get Scraggy I can just make Scraggy at Home with Charmander
gallade hip is just a pant
my very first bruxish fusion was just a vileplume eating bruxfingers and the lil corsola asset someone made in asset gallery is smiling about it.
That’s a cutie patootie right there
Lurantis didn't just give us pants, it gave us the model strut in the clean bellbottoms
Are we sure it pant and not that he swallowed a frisbee?
bruxfinger,? whats that
It is a hard sprite to mon, but even Kamo got a gardevoir. 
fashion icon Lurantis is
non joke version still looks goofy
The corsola is waiting to eat part of the bruxfingers
Really? I don’t think I saw it then
swallowed? through what end 
Joke sprite version is a cutie patootie tho
I don't think you can do much to make Brukish not goofy
We’re ending this conversation
train when u building for uu
i combined the words bruxish and chicken fingers (ik brux is a fish)
fish fingers are a thing too you're good
what about bruxish stick
true true!
Brusxtick
KAJAJAJA
Okay but Lurantis can give us THIS with Bellsprout and I think thats great
I don’t feel like it 💀 uu teambuilding rn seems like a headache
errrm
I’m not trying to play against mini hymegas
thats sunflora 
I forgot that episode 
simply use sylcario
YOU'RE RIGHT SUNFLORA WORKS EVEN BETTER
UU I will literally just build screens in like 2 seconds
Because gems are probably legal
Kinda funny how many nerfs this game gave to stuff but also you can just give Slaking Huge Power
Only viable gems at that point is like dark gem and flying
For knock and arco
p much
Normal Gem Fake Out tho
Gems got deleted except for normal gem
fake out Bad.
Especially with Unburden mons
Uu looks like ou with a different skin rn
Typhlosion Haxorus can do Entei Haxorus’s job in uu
How did we end up with carbink? 
From an elimination style raffle
yeah perhaps
Is diancie in the game?
No
Man, people seem really divided on Carbink
I accepted defeat
Guess people are bound to be divided on Pokemon additions in regards to how every Pokemon is somebody's favorite
Raffles are amazing because of that
You get people submitting fan favorites
And then there's that one guy who places a Cryogonal
And somehow the one guy wins
And that one guy is happy while everyone else is so confused
LOL
Cryogonal could lead to some really cool fusions TBF
Every pokemon can
Ok how about instead of Cryogonal as an example
Sawk and Throh
Main reason why someone would add that
Cause they just wanted to make Bert and Ernie
That's it
or literally Plusle and Minun 
NAH I would ADVOCATE for Math Bunnies
"Math Bunnies" is cute as hell
Plusle and Minun fuse to create a neutral charge that doesn't have any motivation to cheer lol
Pluse x Minun = Minun
What would the tail symbol be? A = symbol?
Plusle x Plusle = Plusle
sorry for being a doodoo head about carbink today its not that bad im just a doodoo head
Ask again in a couple weeks...
It would be 0
Or maybe other math symbols
So who is doing the Torterra fusion?
i had a plan for sableye crawling all over one mining the crystals
Which is funny because they made a Fairy Gem for Gen 6 only for them to not use any of them except for Normal Gems
I was thinking it could be a reference to Reflecting Cave in Kalos but this is probably a better option
Cave could be Palossand
No...
Golbat :D
unique torterras are one of the best things about PIF and i hope mine wont be the only one
Doesn't one of Terra's fusions with Galvantula reference Chargestone cave though?
Poor Exeggcute fusions always getting brain damage in the most darkly amusing ways possible
just be careful where you put the crack
Does Arcanine actually have dragon dance in pif?
Gastly/Exeggcute is a great example of it
Carbink Golem feels like itll be cool
somebody better do geode glalie
a cracked open smile would be p cool
crystals growing out of one eye socket
I'm just wondering how Carbink/Sableye will be handled, cause there's a great opportunity for some mean spirited fusions
just please make the eyes carbink eyes if you make one
i wont make one because i dont get the fundamental thing that makes it look like a giant head
i whiff glalie concepts each time 
anyway just wanted to come back and tie up loose ends a bit with a smallpology for being rude
ill be back in a week or so
👍
whats the name lore?
some one gave u a 2?
Rip diancie now that it is totally irrelevant
go for it if you want
I'd argue it's more relevant than ever
I do wish diancie and carbink came as a package deal but]
I still think carbink is cool
Until we get something for 479, it’s still possible
Still, we got a bit of a gap for all the numbers
Honestly I just hope the staff aren't super pestered over Diancie. I want her added too, but I feel like that's something people can be annoying about
agreed
It was the same with carbink
But to a lesser extent
Besides someone can just fuse a carbink and carbink to make her
the true double carbonk
Just biting into it like an apple. Little Carbink tears
Mareanie/Corsola didn’t get a murder sprite, so Carbink is probably safe
Ohhh okay
should I change that?
If yah wanna
It has one as an alt, but it's not super graphic
Or maybe just carbink being chased by sableye
Like in new Pokémon snap
Palkia and carbink playing into stars are diamond looking thing
I am going to make an absolutely adorable carbink/sableye without any sort of eating disorder or self consumption imagery
Klefki and carbink making a diamond ring
I already sent in a pretty freaky reference picture for a Spiritomb/Carbink fusion sprite request, so we can call that one the obligatory nightmare fuel fusion
just make the carbink/carbink fusion diancie
Carbink mantine with Lil sableye remora

Oh thats a kute idea!!
I have not watched that far into land of the lustrous 
I think carbink gallade would be cool as phos so thats going on the backlog too though
Carbink is super mid
39/46 Dragon Types (84.8%) 35/44 Ghost Types (79.5%) 46/64 Ground Types (71.9%) 47/66 Poison Types (71.2%) 34/49 Steel Types (69.4%) 42/61 Rock Types (68.9%) 50/84 Psychic Types (59.5%) 38/64 Fire Types (59.4%) 60/101 Flying Types (59.4%) 20/34 Ice Types (58.8%) 28/49 Electric Types (57.1%) 26/47 Fairy Types (55.3%) 70/131 Water Types (53.4%) 59/112 Normal Types (52.7%) 25/48 Dark Types (52.1%) 50/97 Grass Types (51.5%) 36/77 Bug Types (46.8%) 25/56 Fighting Types (44.6%)
Types by completion
@fallen loom 🫶
give it a week
True.
Also Lurantis DID get in already.

I say we still have to discuss the mystery mons
Please Scraggy Scrafty
Missing mons between Kommo-o and Fomantis
474-475 MIA
Frog did say in Spoiler text “and a few other surprises”
Dont tell me if its gonna be the UBs
Needs more fighting types, huh? Let's get the Swords of Justice, Mienshao, Conkeldurr, Scrafty, and Buzzwole in there.
Or some mon we dont know it will exist
I doubt it given it’s a 2 gap and not 7 or so gap
If Frog does the impossible, it will go crazy hard.
Probably whichever mon had the most amount of sprites made personal guess
No reason to ignore a free 100 customs
Ye
what if we got more ice types,,,,,
Wait nvm. Huh.
Didn't realize there were that little ice types lmao
Hey GameFreak can we get more ice types,,,,
Wouldn't help infinite fusion 
No but I still feel bad for them ;-;
that would be diancie I think
Ice Types are near universally late game encounters, restricted to a small section of the map with a single encounter table.
Idk
it's diancie followed by the one and only gogoat
I honestly don't know if either of them are gonna get in
but both would be sick
Ye
So in my recent Randomizer Nuzlocke that I did, I encountered a Kyogre on Route 20 that I tried to catch, and the Pokemon I used to lower its HP just pulled out a crit and slaughtered Kyogre
Ouch
It also slaughtered Necrozma, same route
Truee
If it was Diancie, there'd have to be another Pokemon
If its Gogoat then. . . Case close
I say whatever was most present in #1050404143807873157 during the event
Oh! I just remembered, we're getting the gens 5 to 7 starters
Oh? Did Frog announce something related to it?
No I just remembered it was said at some point
Frog explicitly said that the starters and Legends would be via special events.
Thats what I thought.
You know, I personally wouldn't mind not adding many more legendaries
So you're ok with the UBs
Ok
No legends, nothing that resembles legends
You mean only starters Leyley
I just don't like it when a legendary gets added that has the theme of another Pokemon, which then makes that Pokemon even less likely to get into IF
Pachirisu Squirrel themed event when?
I mean we have inherent overlap with gen 1 and gen 5 mons I don't think it's that bad
A large part of the reason some pokemon are likely to not get in is because "X does their thing better" even if it isn't in the game, and even if it's not actually doing the thing.
agree
honestly in terms of what I personally want, just typings and abilities that would make IF fusions more interesting and varied
I have some favorites but most of the ones I super wanted to get in are already in
I'm personally the biggest fan of Pokemon that'll just give me really fun fusion art
"Pikachu can do the pikaclones better than the pikaclones" except that it's not actually doing that because Pikachus own marketing vastly competes every pikaclones combined existance.
Besides Emolga exists
ah, but Pikachu/Pidgeot is soo much better!
having another electric flying might be nice but ye
Worst part is that if Emolga gets in the justification would be "well we already have a squirrel"
Emolga is a flying squirrel
Flying squirrels aren't squirrels.
Yknow I just realized that Pawmi is the first pikachu clone with 3 stages
yeah
Pichu
well Pichu is part of the line itself but ye
Oh wait
I forgot to finish the sentence I'm stupid
Wait no I'm not stupid
alright, what's the gen 2 pikaclone then 
Pikachu's not a pikachu clone
It’s golisover
There isn't one I'm pretty sure
Pikablu
marill was never really propped up as that
It's between baby water rodent and baby electric rodent
yea
Can we call Clefable a Gengar clone
...Or should we call Gengar a Clefable clone...?
Clefable was made in the same generation as gengar
I'm pretty sure clefairy predates most pokemon designs
We could call them rivals though
i dont get this statement
so maybe it'd be more accurate to call gengar a clef clone but ye
clefairy was originally supposed to be the mascot after all
Ye
Gengar was a mascot clone before it was cool
real
Mimikyu sobbing rn
oh its a sprite argument
To be fair, Mimikyu is to Pokemon's actual mascot what Gengar is to what GF wanted to be Pokemon's mascot
Just saw skiploom, that flower should totally be Ash's hat.
that'd be cute
It's just that Gengar will kill you for the trolls and Mimikyu will apologize after you die to it
mimikyu just wanna be loved fr
I wanna be able to love a mimikyu, but don't want to be turned to dust or whatever 😔
think a blind person would like a mimikyu?
What if I see it in a pitch-black room
ooo
ngl this sounds like a cute idea for some random world NPC lol
Imagine a little blind girl and her guardian mimikyu
I wish to imagine the Mimikyu thinks the girl thinks that it's a Pikachu, but the blind girl knows it's a Mimikyu and still loves it anyways
I know it's blasphemy, but I personallyy like mimikyu more than Pikachu.
No, I agree
Only successful pika clone, and it wasn't intentional
It's not even because Pikachu's been burned into my retinas 10 times a month
Pika used to be my favorite pokemon, but that's oversaturated me now.
It's just because Mimikyu is a horror that likes people but kills them if they see it so it disguises as something people love so it can get affection
It just wants friends...
my new favorite is Pachirisu, and that started as a bit 
My favorite Pokemon is Bearctic because I love bears and I like the ice types :)
I want the 3 bears triple fusion
Beartic
Pangoro would work better than Bewear
I feel like that thing would die really easily
Please, dev, we only have legendary and starter triple fusions 😔
It would be fun to see some more triple fusions
that are not legendary
Like, do what Megas did and give a couple to some Pokemon that are less explored
They might still be forgettable competitive wise but it'd give them a little extra spark for the game!
design wise I agree
we all have attachment to pikachu from its personality in the anime but that's only one pikachu after all
as a design I like mimikyu just a bit more
I literally lived my entire life as a pokemon kid lmao
same lol
well, I fell off during the gen 5 games cus I was just burnt out on the series at the time but those were the only ones I missed growing up
played every single one since red otherwise lol
Literally had Indigo League playing on the TV in the room I was born 
There's no other fan more dedicated to pokemon than I!
you know it's your destiiiinyyyy
God going "And you shall be a pokemon fan"
Or, you're a Pokemon fan? Name the cost of the electricity bill of the unit you're attached to.
lmao
(because you're a fan)
lol
honestly sometimes I wish I were born just a few years earlier so I could have experienced more of the pop culture behind red/blue here in the states
pokemon was still big when I was a kid but it wasn't as much like
THE thing all the kids were into
If I was born a few years earlier I swear to god I'd have been a poketuber
same
I'm kinda jelly of people who got to the early internet and had the ability to make content lol
I was on there but obviously way too young to do much
I was 12 when Gaming YT was at its height...
I used to be really jelly of like, content creators, you know the older ones
The oldies but the goodies
yer
But now I'm just sorta like, "eh. that fame is way too much for me. i'd burn out"
don't even remember what year that was 
Like I am not made for getting what people like Markerpliers gets
2008-2016 YT was peak
True, but I do like my channels I've found out here now
yeah, I guess fame isn't as much of it for me as it is being like a pioneer of that kind of stuff
They're all sorta small-ish, nothing above like 50K except in a couple here and there
And strangely enough all my channels I watch now sort of have like... links to one another???
wait walrein can get Earthquake
there are plenty of good youtube channels, youtube itself just gets worse with time lol
Like I was watching one of SaltyDKDan's latest vids and I realized Gomotion is his editor
Which ties me into I think Phisnom, then to Pastra, both of which I watch a bunch of
the channels I like leave YT or are outed as criminals...
Then there's Overly Sarcastic Productions who suddenly do a collab with TierZoo on a podcast
There's uh, all the animators I watch who know each other for obvious reasons (they each know the pain of animation)
Not even just that type of criminal, I've had a couple people I liked be arrested for shit like murder or robbery
and then there's arlo and scottthewoz, in their own corner.
several died, or pretended to die to escape the consequences of their actions.
Also jeez I haven't had any people i watch get such stuff happen to them???
I've seen it happen a couple times but not many
The worst I've witnessed was like, a guy I watched tell a kid to kms on twitter, then apologized right after
god I've been watching since before Alphabet inc aquired YT.
that's very tame lol
Which isn't great, but yeah, it's very tame
'Course he still got cancelled for it lmao
To make matters worse he was one of the people working on a game in Scott Cawthon's FNAF Fanverse thing
same lol
So it didn't help the situation that creators from that project were getting outed left and right for actually not great things
my mom first showed me youtube in 2006
the very first video i watched on it was uh this
sorry god but I can't go to hell. Google, Valve, and Nintendo own my soul.
I don't want google owning my soul 
Have the new pokemon been released yet or nah?
No update yet
Not yet!
alr
Will be at least a week
Oh alright
i'm curious about a fusion hol on,
dang it
I was curious if Butterfree / Jigglypuff would make Morpho Knight
The same way Aegislash / Jigglypuff makes Meta Knight
Could prob ask a spriter to do it nicely
I feel like I could ask for better things than a reference fusion...
Like a fusion that doesn't have any custom sprites
I think it'd be cool if it were vivillon
I mean, if you like the fusion in question then that'd be a good use lmao, I basically just do sprite whenever I want a reference fusion that's not in the game.
I personally think it'd be Vivillon, but we don't got that in the game
And recoloring existing sprites to look cooler Read: edgier
volcarona isnt a butterfly but it would work colour wise
Also I'm just looking through fusions with Butterfree as the body
And these are REALLY cool fusions
yeah butterfree is neat
Corsola / Butterfree is a Glasswing Butterfly
i need to check something
Found a Minior fusion!
Geodude/Jigglypuff
hmmm not quite a luna moth
Ribombee fits the wing pattern better
yeah but that guy only has 2 wings
Ribombee?
mm, looks Volcorona-y
Yeah I'm also counting two
Ohhh you're right it could be
WOOHOO!
You were right, Volcarona / Jigglypuff
Dang, Volcarona has all my favorite reference fusions
Morpho Knight, Radiance, Wasp King
I wonder if it has Sectonia...
MVP of my Kirby Run
Volcarona is a good fusion mon!
If only it wasn't a level 60 evolution.
Even though he came in at the last second just because the Galacta Knight sprite was too low
(Like, it was below the UI in battles)
I'm def grabbing Larvesta my next remix playthrough though, seems fun.
"Get me pictures of Spiderman!"
Okay I didn't find Queen Sectonia but I found this thing
Reject Hollow Knight boss
gonna do a 6 aegislash fusion team for my next run
Looks like the nearest we have to Triple Deluxe is Taranza
TARANZA!!!
"Armed to the teeth"
Okay I love Taranza so this is epic
Go all out. Single Species Aegislash, EVERYONE GETS WEAPONS!
It's all gonna be body fusions 
Luxio’s profile has a Dropbox.
Video Games->Kirby.
What I used to get my Kirby Run
You can do that, set all Aegislash to head, body, or random
Was my 8th run… man that’s a throwback…
What fusion is Daroach he's like my favorite
Not at all from my favorite Kirby game but he's my favorite character
Raticate and… I forget. Hang on
Honchkrow/Raticate
Yeah mob boss/rat
squeak squad underrated
I think my favorite fusions are from Mismagius as a head because I love witch aesthetic
He was also awesome iirc
Mismagius is hands down one of my favorite mons period so I agree
Future theme plan is called “witches and wizards”
But I don’t repeat mons so there’s only 1 Musmagius fusion in that team.
(Team already planned, just waiting for the Future Run Wheel to land on it)
would be good for when fennekin line is eventually added
I kinda wish Gourgeist could get in just for pumpkin / autumn-themed fusions
Wait. Speaking of autumn
If I get word that happens I’m willing to take it off the Wheel until it gets in
I love pumpkaboo but not very big on gourgeist
Much like how I’m holding off rn until the update before I do a new run
I wonder if there's a fusion for The Beast from Over the Garden Wall
could be
Sounds familiar
Lemme check Luxio’s page
Hypothetically, if a mon was added to fill the gap, which one would y’all want?
a single mon?
I'd want Swirlix / Slurpuff, because I've super been convinced that the fun candyland-esque fusions it would result in would be awesome
sadge...
I think so. I believe it can only allow in a one stage mon although it might be a two stage one as well? I can’t remember.
Missing two slots so…
hmm I see
I pray that it’s Golisopod
well I'd like salazzle to be in just so we can have another poison type with good sp. a
He can fill two slots
but golisopod would be cool too
I really feel like it will be whatever had the most amount of sprites made for it already
also corrosion would be an interesting ability to introduce
Meinshao can also fill two slots
Like, no reason to just ignore the mon with the most amount of effort put in. Plus it would already have hundreds of sprites ready for adding
what, golisopod?
So Gogoat? 
That or Slurpuff
ah
Or Gogoat
So I was close
I did not find The Beast from Over the Garden Wall
But I found Specimen 9 from Spooky's Jumpscare Mansion
ooo nice lol
so close enough lol
In my own search I found Venice
honestly that was the scariest one imo
Awesome
I didn't like the zombie deer either
Also
Venice
That Goodra fusion is absolute fire
It can't just be me who thinks Lurantis is wearing pajamas
It looks like it has striped pajamas
lmao the hakama pajama
I’ve been slowly building a Jewelry team (as in “looks like jewelry” not “wearing jewelry”) as a sworn oath that if Carbink was added I’d do so
So far have Klefki and Sableye
ye mope is awesome
With Klinklang and Starmie used as partners
So those 4 mons are excluded from further Sprite hunts
Man, the one good thing about mons I’m not really excited about joining the game is the fact that everyone has a chance to make cool sprites for the mons therefore convincing me of it’s excellence
Very true
Kinda running out of gemstone mons already
Though I doubt someone could convince me that they should add Plusle / Minun
Or the Lake Trio
Yknow, some Pokemon just look similar but are not evolutions
I think someone who actually sprites here and there said that it's not that Plusle and Minun would be hard to sprite, it's that they'd be far too easy, just kinda boring
And I feel like the Lake Trio would make for interesting head fusions, but they all look kinda... same-ish body wise
I feel like if both got in, someone would Sprite them together as a JJK reference
Positive/Negative=Zero
Ah true
You could also make a joke with ions by fusing Plusle or Minun with Solosis
Speaking of spriting I do wanna get into spriting I just have to get over the insecurity of me not knowing a lick about art - much less pixel art
Wait, those guys still aren’t in?
Nope
Dang, I thought they were like one of the starting legendary that were added to the game lol
Yeah you sorta do a reverse of Sinnoh in IF, you start with Arceus and then get the Creation Trio
Or the creation trio first if you ignore Eusine
Which means no need for the red chain or whatever it's called, and no need for Lake Trio
that's also true
Either way they're already in play
Red Chain is not part of it, that was just a control device
So you don't need to summon them
oh
oops it's been a while since I played Sinnoh
That was Galactic trying to make primal powers do what they wanted lol
Be funny to have in game like this
Actually now that I think about it the only summoning items were Orbs.
The red and blue orbs and the black and white orbs
The heck GF?!?
And if you want to get technical, sending Master balls back/forward in time is another summoning method using Orbs
Dang, putting the Paradise Protection Protocol on blast
I think the only thing summoning thing that wasn’t orbs (that was released Azure Flute) was the Sun/Moon Flute. But even those were just awakening power in Cosmoem
I mean if you wanna get technical...
Summoning Rayquaza is usually done by getting Groudon and Kyogre in a fight
Except Delta Episode involved Zinnia gathering, you guessed it, ORBS! (Mega Stones)
Arceus dang it Game Freak!!
How deep does this rabbit hole go???
Stop it with the orbs!!
And if you really think about it...
Every time you send out a legendary Pokemon, you are summoning it with an orb!
I need to.. I need to sit down, oh my goodness..
It even affects the mons themselves!
This changes everything
Deep enough to find the planet’s core (which is also an orb)
Oh NO
I need that red string meme but with Pokémon and the word Orbs
Maybe pictures of Pokeballs
Oh this whole time I've been imagining the meme of Pim and Charlie finding out Earth is flat
Maybe that
And the electric type Regi? I think that’s an orb?
It’s been a while since I’ve seen one of those things lol
It's a dissected orb
Spiky orb
Yknow I'm curious, is there a Devil's Core fusion sprite
A what?
What?
uhh hold on
Man, I can’t tell if this is a false memory, but does this have something to do with SCP?
Could’ve sworn there was an SCP called that
But then again, my memory is faulty as hell lol
I believe the demon core is the detonation mechanism for a nuke, no?
Speaking of a blast from Internet Past I found this old horror game gem
What is it?
IMSCARED
Though disguising the noose as a key holder is a clever way to avoid mods
Yeah, it was, according to Wikipedia, "a sphere of plutonium that was involved in two fatal radiation accidents when scientists tested it as a fissile core of an early atomic bomb."
Is that the name of the game or are you describing how you feel?
And here I thought you were talking about the Elephant’s Foot
That's the name of the game
Ah
And the guy
Well technically his name is White Face but yeah
Yknow that's 2 Spooky's Jumpscare Mansion fusions
...since technically white face appears as Unknown Specimen 1
Valid warrior cat named spotted 
And from there seeing Mark ply it I had a nostalgia flood and went back to his old playthrough of the full IMSCARED game
Aw man I love IMSCARED
Oh don’t you start with the nostalgia! (And I came into that late)
anyway i slep gnight
how does it feel to have the carbonk as our new pif pokemon?
Good 💎
excited to make some carbink bodies, they will be very cute!!
Bodies?! Havent heard/seen people cook with the body yet.
feels good man
it was in my top 5 i think
Carbink was really high on my choices aswell
Lurantis aswell
So im happy even if no goat 
Meh but alright.
i wasnt a fan of lurantis but at least it isnt BAD
Dont you think you could so a gothitelle with it?
Gray dress with bunch of jewelry in blue
I made the Carbink body first. 
Contrary sounds so exciting to play with in game
screw that make it garnet from steven universe
oh yeah i forgot it gets that ability lmao
Oh you have a gothitelle/carbink? 
yeah i saw that earlier
mice
im excited to make some carbink heads
im doing darkrai first
I thought everyone would just do carbink heads
I have too many other ideas lined up, so it'll be a while before I get to spriting a Carbink.
You should share some of that creativity smh
Idk, it made me very slow to sprite since I'm still getting used to pixels.
Youll get there. Pixelart just takes time aswell
I think i usually take 2-4 hours when spriting someone elses concept art
i remember making recolour shinies on mspaint when i was like 12
time to sketch some carbinks
Overthinking mistakes and designing takes up a lot of time.
When i was 12 i was busy drooling on myself and exploring my neighborhood
I'm trying a new way to start a project and it's going well.
I ended up overthinking so much that i just gave up making my own ideas
Its easier to just take someone elses concept and accept whatever kinks shows up while spriting them
getting your pixels to look just right

my most recent sprite I was tweaking for almost like two weeks before I finally posted it
am i on the right track
Definetly.
Id be careful with making it look too much straight on but aslong as you make the eyes look to the left you should be fine
wait are u widecloud? 
who's here for it
Is this after the event?
Are those the evo stones?
nah just coloured like the eeveelutions but they could be
its not the kind of thing id like to* discuss on the server c:
I see fair enough, for what its worth I liked your entries.
volcarona meta
I mean that goodra/volcarona is gorgeous
Why do i always mess up head/body order.
hope u dont messed up during that time 
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