#pif-hoenn-discussion

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silent acorn
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Infernape/Tropius

velvet root
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and now I need to do 3 more sprites

silent acorn
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Do it I wanna hate myself

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Pretty please

velvet root
silent acorn
velvet root
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Infernape is one of my least fav mons... Sorry man

silent acorn
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Rapidash?

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Magmortar?

velvet root
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wait lemme think

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Typhlosion

hardy tartan
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Ninetales? Volcarona?

silent acorn
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Yeah that one should do

silent acorn
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I can't quite think how it would go wrong

velvet root
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I dont even have a idea what to do with it XD

silent acorn
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Actually lemme try japeals base

deft obsidian
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Infernape is your fav! :0

silent acorn
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This is what you have to work with

silent acorn
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Love it in the anime

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Love me my torch monkey

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And so the internet still agrees even if they want to deny the Sun Son

inland geyser
deft obsidian
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Hmmm malicious

silent acorn
silent acorn
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Or should I say

inland geyser
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Nicewe have a new thumb btw!!

silent acorn
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That's pretty cool? Smirkball

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Yeah it's a smirking sneasel

inland geyser
silent acorn
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It's from the emotes

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Personally I think carbonk was better

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Uh hu

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It's this one the preamble for Peter Griffin cloud?

silent acorn
silent acorn
velvet root
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ik ik

silent acorn
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It requires 9 Tera ram of brain power to produce something

velvet root
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I find something

silent acorn
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Official creativity guide

deft obsidian
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Change that banana to something else?

silent acorn
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Listed on REQUIRES HIGH CRRATIVITY

silent acorn
hot hamlet
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It would be cool if the second vote was more like entries on a wheel. Then Frog could stream it on the Stage and we can see who is landed on live

velvet root
hot hamlet
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I joined after the raffle

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So idk

deft obsidian
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Same i joined in November

hot hamlet
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Mid Oct

silent acorn
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Hence froggo made it so duplicates don't do anything now

hot hamlet
silent acorn
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Hey archeops happened just like that

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And we have 4 left

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Also the dude who won the lottery last time just put chimecho there because...

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I guess he thought he was being funny????

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The Melo victory was well deserved and Lady Fortune smiled on us for once

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Hence Meloetta was the 4th mythical we received naturally

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Cresselia was decided apart

hot hamlet
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I got work. Bye!

silent acorn
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Bye bye

silent acorn
hot hamlet
spiral musk
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what is this OhGeez

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this is terrifying

rain locust
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eating rocks

velvet root
stuck bane
# hot hamlet There has not been a single duplicate yet and only 4 entries remain

It’s also partially because duplicates aren’t allowed because it’s a vote, not a raffle. On a raffle two slots for archeops did give it better odds, but in a vote it kinda just puts slurpuff on the list… twice…

But I also agree a raffle leaves it much more up to chance who the winner will be, bringing anticipation and excitement towards the big reveal. Instead, a vote makes it too obvious that “yeah Golisopod takes this no contest” hence many people are more lukewarm towards the special vote since it’s kinda already revealed

fathom ridge
inland geyser
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I am soooo stoked on this guy rn

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Loving this face

spiral musk
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a shiny version would be fire ohyes

inland geyser
fathom ridge
inland geyser
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Your are anspiration

spiral musk
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it's on an avalugg heehee

inland geyser
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Thnaky ou

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get yr snek off the tablecow

velvet root
velvet root
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What are some common punk things in a artistic way?
Like symbols etc?

wanton grove
velvet root
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I know

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But I need something to represent it

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I really have to watch those movies

rugged temple
bitter comet
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Looks bad ass whatever it is

inland geyser
bitter comet
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Ooo cool

dense onyx
silent acorn
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When it's the next raffle reveal?

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Ah today is tourney

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I betcha it's gonna be luvdisc

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That mon is so GOOD

silent acorn
silent acorn
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Banana blades

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Well the egyptian used them... So...

silent acorn
velvet root
inland geyser
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Bruh I WIFFED so hard on this

analog stag
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Tropius does have potential with all the banana stuff you could do

inland geyser
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@icy crystal

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heehee swing and a miss but I like how the head came out

velvet root
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You mind if I use it?

silent acorn
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That's an improvement

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Alright screw it I have time

inland geyser
silent acorn
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Majestic

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Very well balanced

velvet root
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Now I only need Wimpod and idk if Gordo is fine with me using the base or not

silent acorn
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What a queen

outer matrix
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Hair kind of looks like a banana

hidden relic
velvet root
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Perfect!

inland geyser
silent acorn
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SCREW IT. FIGHTING IS MY FAVORITE TYPE ANYWAY

silent acorn
# velvet root

It reminds me of the snake monster of Monster Hunter 4U

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yessss....

outer matrix
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Similar color scheme that works really well ngl

silent acorn
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I been persuaded

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Still

molten latch
fathom ridge
stuck bane
# dense onyx How come it's guaranteed to be golisopod?

Ok it’s gonna be a little long winded if you don’t know much about the vote so bear with me:

13 winners participate: 6 sprite contest winners, 6 showdown tourney winners, 1 dex entry winner. All winners have their own vote where they vote for all the other winner’s choices. The winner of that vote is added to the game. (Note that it’s also slightly weighted towards spriters as spriters can win showdown tourneys but showdown players can’t really sprite)

The Mon that wins the special vote must appeal to both spriters and competitive if it wishes to win

For spriters, Golisopod only barely lost to rockruff in the spriter vote (see below), it already has a huge advantage over all other mons because of this because nothing will appeal to more spriters, but wait there’s more

Golisopod also has strong competitive appeal as well, defensive water type with spikes and first impression also appeals to a lot of them too, but there’s more.

The wild card in all of this was the dex entry winner: they can’t really be appealed to because they might not be competitive or spriter. Every Mon has to deal with a wild card they can’t appeal to… except Golisopod, because it was chosen by the dex entry winner, maximizing its votes by only needing to appeal to the 2 main groups.

So to sum it up:
Is Golisopod guaranteed to win? No
Is it near impossible for Golisopod to lose? Yes

velvet root
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I managed it!
All Special vote mons we know rn have a Sprite!

stuck bane
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Just in time for the tourney winner Trollgar

fathom ridge
stuck bane
fathom ridge
stuck bane
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All good dw

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We’ve all had our moments

civic harness
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Congratulations

velvet root
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Fork I have to send again

inland geyser
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Gay Sea Turtle incoming SmugCatSneasel

velvet root
inland geyser
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anyone have any ideas for the armors parts of Carracosta using Hooh head

velvet root
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NOW

outer matrix
inland geyser
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im becoming mentally drained of creativity now that my Floaterra concept is finished

inland geyser
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shapes

velvet root
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OOOH

inland geyser
velvet root
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You could go fancy like a Chinese/Japanese Building

inland geyser
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maybe these back things

rain locust
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hit me with propaganda again

stuck bane
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Which one?

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All of them?

rain locust
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all of them (for the bit)

pale flame
stuck bane
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This all I got saved on my phone for now

ornate tide
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Kpop scraggy

hardy tartan
velvet root
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Probably cuz I missclicked cuz it was above that

hardy tartan
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And by “propaganda” I mean “a few bullet points on the pros of each”

ornate tide
unique flame
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give gourgeist a 3

lime elbow
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more starter pokemon!

finite reef
ornate tide
lime elbow
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poplio is one of my favourites

ornate tide
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But starters aren’t legal to be voted in currently

lime elbow
glass patio
ornate tide
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Has anyone even put in Minior into the voting list yet

rain locust
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no

glass patio
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disappointing

ornate tide
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It’s literally just aegislash lite from a competitive stand point unless in if you can use the shields down form in fusion

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Then it will be slightly cooler

glass patio
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idk funny ability man i dont really care about competitive i just want funny sprites sorry ditto

stuck bane
finite reef
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Shields Down transforms you into Meteor forme at the start of the turn (if above half), so Core is default

ornate tide
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Okay Minior with our shields down should theoretically start with no shields yeh

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So it’s does have decent BP

glass patio
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idk what bp means but ok happo

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i looked it up ok

velvet root
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Sooo soon we know the next special vote mon

rain locust
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they are busy scrambling

ornate tide
velvet root
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That also means I have some mons to sprite again qwq

rain locust
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BATTLE PROWESS?

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who says that

glass patio
ornate tide
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BP most of the time means Base Power tho

glass patio
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base power…

ornate tide
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Acronyms can go to shit

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I have seen people call doom desire dd

glass patio
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battle pass Nice

ornate tide
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CBT=Choice Band Tyranitar

rain locust
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i need some cbt in my life

outer matrix
rain locust
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yeah

ornate tide
pale flame
ornate tide
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You shouldn’t be suprised

pale flame
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I was #1 on randoms in the IF showdown at one point

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It's been a minute since I've played

ornate tide
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Does anyone actually play IF Ranbats like seriously

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Actually probably

pale flame
stuck bane
ornate tide
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I used to like if showdown ou

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Then it got boring

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And no one plays nd

latent sage
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Is golisopd coming?

pale flame
rain locust
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pokemon challenges gotta drop another 1000$ tour

rain locust
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Im Primed.

latent sage
stuck bane
latent sage
stuck bane
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Unless Ana can combine his two choices into 1 diancie

ornate tide
rain locust
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two carbink = one diancie

stuck bane
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Wouldn’t hurt to give it a shot

ornate tide
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They have to give diance on 2x votes for carbink or we riot ong

rain locust
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Prettty Real

gray vine
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eh

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i we get carbink diance is hardly needed

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same concept just woman

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and pink instead of blue

stuck bane
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Yeah but that one appeals to spriters and has a chance of stopping golisopod’s near guaranteed win

ornate tide
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Carbink is needed for them crystal sprites

gray vine
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not if you get diance

stuck bane
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But Carbink and diancie together would be preferred

gray vine
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just seems a bit much

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i would prefer 2 mons that arent that similar to take the space

stuck bane
ornate tide
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Wait how is the exclusive vote gonna work now

hot hamlet
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I’m assuming same person won something again?

stuck bane
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Yes, anaconja won a 2nd tournament

hot hamlet
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I’d guess that means they have to make another choice besides Carbink then

stuck bane
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We don’t know what’s gonna happen now, but I’m praying they’ll let him give up his 2nd choice and 2nd set of votes just to get diancie in

hot hamlet
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Basically giving them 2 chances to win the special vote, but only 1 mon gets in

stuck bane
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Yes, also more weight since their votes will be nearly the same on both lists

ornate tide
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They should allow double bink

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Golisopod 100% is getting in the popular vote

hot hamlet
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Just saying how I’d see it. My first pick would be Vanilite, but if I can’t choose that a second time, I’d pick a different mon. Like the next highest on my preferences

ornate tide
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Exclusive vote I Assume spriters like bink better than the other choices

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Unless it’s like slurpuff

stuck bane
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I know! I want it to be exciting, a real challenge to finalize it, but nothing is stopping Golisopod except a legend or mythical

analog stag
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Vote Carbink so we get Diancie sooner rather than later

ornate tide
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Allowing diance would be so based

stuck bane
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I think the main issue now is what if he votes both of his own options a 3 and how does that skew things

hot hamlet
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I’d think anyone who wins would always pick their 3 options

hot hamlet
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I doubt someone would vote a month 0 then make it their special vote pick

stuck bane
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That’s the thing, winners can’t pick their own. Ex: dex entry’s guy would be everyone in the special vote except goliso

Whoever gets the most votes from everyone else is the winner

ornate tide
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So it seems Golisopod and Bink would get in at that point

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Golisopod and Bink are the best two options in my opinion

stuck bane
stuck bane
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I mean, now he’s won 2 but

ornate tide
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So that’s 2 for bink

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They should allow two votes

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In the special vote

hot hamlet
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Okay let me get this straight as I’ve always been confused (and maybe I’m just plain stupid, never discount that)
It sounds like the Special Vote is just “look at the total numbers only compared to the other mons on this narrower list
Correct?

ornate tide
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All the winners vote on what they wanna add while removing golisopod from the list because it already won probably

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So probably

stuck bane
ornate tide
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Oh true it would just tie

gray vine
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they can lul

ornate tide
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Pluh

stuck bane
ornate tide
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Why won’t the vote just tie then the golisopod person decides

gray vine
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you could vote on all the mons before any challenge was even done

hot hamlet
stuck bane
ornate tide
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How do you think they are gonna solve the problem tho

stuck bane
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The simplest and most entertaining would be

“Trade offer”

“You give me your 2nd choice and 2nd set of votes”

“In exchange, I make your carbink a diancie”

That would be simplest and my preferred, but I can see why frog wouldn’t want to do that

ornate tide
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Bink and Dia seem like a package deal at this point

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If that happens

hot hamlet
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You keep swinging the idea towards Diance when it’s not even an option. I think you have ulterior motives

finite reef
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Yeah, the motive is wanting diance

stuck bane
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There’s a lot of unfinished counterparts, Camerupt, Lilligant, Gothitelle, etc,

ornate tide
finite reef
hot hamlet
hot hamlet
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Petilil and Cottonee

stuck bane
finite reef
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Version exclusive, but not a true counterpart

stuck bane
finite reef
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Lilligant can exist without Whimsicott

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Pokemon that have a direct connection
Durant - Heatmor
Seviper - Zangoose
Carbink - Diance

ornate tide
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Diance either way will probably get in sooner or later

finite reef
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Manectric isn't a counterpart to Houndoom

hot hamlet
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News flash: Gen 3 were version exclusive too.
Diance didn’t exist until til an event added her

rain locust
stuck bane
hot hamlet
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And Durant and Heatmor were version counterparts too!

finite reef
hot hamlet
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Who was added later in the game

stuck bane
rain locust
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oh

stuck bane
rain locust
ornate tide
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What other way can they solve this

stuck bane
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Idk I think they’re debating it now

finite reef
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Both of conja's polls could not have either of their votes?

ornate tide
finite reef
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It is an option, just not a good one

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Conja has good mon ideas, hopefully he gets to cheat heehee

stuck bane
ornate tide
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Wacky

finite reef
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Yeah I'm just pointing out the two main options

stuck bane
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The simplest solution for now not involving legends is keep it the way it is, and Carbink + other choice from ana get automatic 3

ornate tide
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Or you can give the person that got second the vote

stuck bane
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And he gets 2 sets of votes for more weight towards what he wants

rain locust
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auto 3 sounds good to me Smirkball

ornate tide
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it literally won’t change anything 💀

ornate tide
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Doesn’t give Bink as much as chance as the other mons

stuck bane
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Idk man, they’re talking it out now

hollow creek
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I still think slurpuff has the best chance of winning the bonus vote

ornate tide
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That’s very sad

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It has Sprite value but that mon is shit

stuck bane
hollow creek
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I dont really have a reason its just a gut feeling

hot hamlet
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Winner decides how they go about this

ornate tide
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I feel like a lot of the people taht did comp are probably voting for daunt

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To bad daunt is getting banned cause perma rain

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Probably immediately

stuck bane
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Crawdaunt was a competitive pick right? That means it gets 1 less competitive vote to appeal too

hot hamlet
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Why can’t I come up with stuff like that when I try to actually write my book?

ornate tide
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They should the special vote everyone gets to vote for 1 one including their own

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ONG

inland jewel
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At this point I think ranking would be the better system

stuck bane
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Most would pick their own, a few would drift to another, a winner still could be decided

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Or, hear me out

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Retroactively turn it into a raffle, let chaos reign

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Everyone has equal chances

hollow creek
stuck bane
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Bloodbath 2: electric boogaloo

ornate tide
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Besides Golisopod

hollow creek
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Was just about to say

ornate tide
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Which Golisopod wins pop vote either way

hollow creek
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gastrogon too

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don

stuck bane
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Lurantis and tropius made spriter vote too just saying

ornate tide
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In Comp Carbink is better than Golisopod in fusions specifically

hollow creek
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I am pretty confident kommo o can win the popular vote

stuck bane
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Same

hollow creek
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simply because it was top 10 last time but got vetoed cause the dragon amount, but now its the only psuedo left to be added

stuck bane
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I don’t see why it wouldn’t win again, it sounds like there won’t be another veto

hollow creek
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its just one line

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so ye

ornate tide
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If someone choosing Kommo o it probably wins yeh

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To bad boomburst is banned in if comp

hollow creek
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Its like 60% kommo o 40% golisopod those are the odds

ornate tide
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If someone adds kommo o is the thing

stuck bane
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Damn they banned it fr

inland jewel
hollow creek
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Dream scenario is golisopod wins popular vote, crawdaunt wins special vote

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as unlikely as is

stuck bane
ornate tide
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Daunt is the best one ingame probably

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In comp daunt is insta banned

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Because perma rain

inland jewel
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I hope Scrafty wins special

ornate tide
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And the ability to fuse with Melo P

stuck bane
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It’s special then main, if main is same as special, then it becomes 2nd place in main

stuck bane
ornate tide
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Oh if special vote in first

inland jewel
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I honestly just want more fighting types

hollow creek
ornate tide
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Golisopod 100% is in

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I wonder when the mods are gonna come up with a solution

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💀

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Wait on the special vote what stops everyone from voting 0 on everything

stuck bane
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It’s gonna be a while I think, but not long enough to stop them from judging contests they’re extremely busy

inland jewel
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The best solution I came up with is rankings

hollow creek
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there's 12 people and each person cannot pick their own choice, so in my eyes the winner isnt going to win with more than like 5 or so votes

stuck bane
hollow creek
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I feel like itll be pretty spread out since a lot of the picks so far are quite liked

stuck bane
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If everyone votes 0 on everything, he probably makes it a raffle

inland jewel
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You rank them in order of what you’d like to see in game, (your own choice) at the bottom

ornate tide
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Still just means golisopod wins

stuck bane
ornate tide
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Golisopod winning is inevitable

stuck bane
inland jewel
stuck bane
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That’s all of us now

rain locust
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i dont see what kommoo does

stuck bane
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Uhhhh fighting type, unique move, some abilities, I think

inland jewel
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Gives a new move, new ability, last pseudo, brings in fighting type (one of the lowest per species in game)

stuck bane
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It’s like clamoring scales or something? And I think it has bullet proof

rain locust
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clanging scales

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thing is its stats are super awkward

stuck bane
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Oh yeah clamoring is the Gen 8 one I keep messing them up

rain locust
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no thats clangorous soul

hollow creek
inland jewel
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For me it just feels weird to not have him at this point since the other pseudos are in

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Then again same could be said for Gen 5-7 starters

stuck bane
velvet root
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We need 900 more members!

stuck bane
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Ima wake up and miss the event fr

hollow creek
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kommo is one of the few pokemon to actually look better in sv

gray vine
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why a few

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which looked worse

stuck bane
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It’s scarlet and violet…

proud lion
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Year of the dragon

gray vine
hollow creek
gray vine
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which had the best models so far

stuck bane
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Do I have to spell it out?

stuck bane
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Ignoring something like Pokémon snap

gray vine
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well i didnt mean digimon

hollow creek
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The fire fish is a design that works with sv's weird shading

gray vine
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fire fish?

inland jewel
proud lion
hollow creek
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it looks like a special effect from windwaker became a fish

gray vine
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the ruin one?

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the worst one

gray vine
inland jewel
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Adding stuff based on what’s not in

hollow creek
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I always liked the fish the most of the ruins

proud lion
hot hamlet
gray vine
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dont get the fish love

stuck bane
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It has a funny name that’s all I care about

gray vine
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to me its Snail>Bull>Tiger>Feesh

stuck bane
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Chi yu? Right?

hollow creek
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The ruins would be really cool in if tho

hot hamlet
# gray vine dont get the fish love

They more love it because it has the unique ability to go from one of the worst fishmons competitively, to one of the best by getting a whole lot of other fish together

ornate tide
hot hamlet
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Plus the cutscenes in (I think it was) Moon

stuck bane
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Also it says “fishiii” in game iirc

hollow creek
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Especially chein pao if you make the metal with glowy blue runes into an armor, oh yeah

hot hamlet
gray vine
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why?

hot hamlet
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🤷‍♂️

gray vine
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its not a fire fish nor a ruin mon

ornate tide
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Wishwashi would be cool if you could get the big form without schooling

hot hamlet
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Anyway on the ruins, I love Decomp Snail the most. Then Tiger, then Fish, then Moose

gray vine
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i like the moose more then the fish

ornate tide
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The only wo chien lovers ever

hot hamlet
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Moose just looks like moose with bowl on head. Not really wowing me

outer matrix
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Ting-lu?

gray vine
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fish last for me , i thought it was super dissapointeing when i found it (didnt get spoiled on the designs)

hot hamlet
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At least the tiger’s sword halves formed his fangs, that’s a cool addition.
But just slapping a bowl on top of a moose is really disappointing

ornate tide
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Chi yu is just a goldfish

hot hamlet
ornate tide
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How is that not more disappointing tho

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How is that not more disappointing tho that thing is literally just a goldfish

hot hamlet
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How unique is a fire fish in these games though?

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Plus it’s cute

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It got big eyes

ornate tide
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Chi yu being cute is a first thing I have heard

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Both it and ting lu both have equally boring designs

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Wo Chien may have the most interesting design but wtf is going on with it

hot hamlet
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It really is the presentation of it. People attach themselves to tiny things in almost all franchises

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casual Joltik fan

ornate tide
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I took me so long to realize that wo chien actually had eyes

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💀

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That’s why I think it’s design is the worse

hot hamlet
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It took me just as long to realize the beads were the eyes

proud lion
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The mons that I voted 0 for this year

hot hamlet
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That’s all? Dang

ornate tide
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How did Bruxish even get into the game

inland geyser
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Chat vote block head heehee

ornate tide
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💀

proud lion
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Either way, better pick than Luvdisc

stuck bane
ornate tide
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All them mons are boring

proud lion
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Some Pokémon I just felt like are not ready (not sure how season forms will work)

inland geyser
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Stantler 2.0

proud lion
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Unlike Oricorio, the forms don’t do anything significant other than appearance

inland geyser
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Stantler can be cool just sayin

proud lion
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So I had to give Deerling the cut for this year

ornate tide
#

It’s a good sprite I wouldn’t say it’s cool tho

stuck bane
#

And just 1 Sawsbuck/deerling

proud lion
#

Spinda is an exception as they can probably just do one form of spots and it’s only one slot

#

As coding 4 BILLION forms would send the game into the TBs

stuck bane
#

Yeah, I think we talked about that before, else the 8 slots it would’ve brought up with monkeys/burmy talk

ornate tide
#

Also why isn’t lycanroc dusk in the game

stuck bane
stuck bane
ornate tide
#

Also aren’t clamperl items already in game but we have no clamperl

#

Maybe I’m high idk

stuck bane
#

I think the evo items for Clamperl line are just regular items with bonuses or something iirc? Like the metal coat being used for evos and boosting power of steel iirc?

ornate tide
#

Deep sea tooth is basically just special huge power

#

Just worse lightball

proud lion
#

Never forget

outer matrix
#

Wario for IF real omg

velvet root
#

Since when do so many Jellicent fans exist

ornate tide
#

Jelli gaming

#

It was water spout

spare dagger
#

Jelli boi is squishy

ornate tide
#

Gogoat getting more votes than jelli is unreal

velvet root
#

Y

gray vine
#

where the gastrodons

ornate tide
#

Gogoat ain’t it

velvet root
#

You saw all the Gogoat stuff that exists right?

civic harness
lethal roost
#

the 🐐

proud lion
velvet root
#

Just wanna go sure that you didnt miss seeing the biggest non if team member wise and second biggest non if team sprite wise

civic harness
#

I dont see Crabominable

stuck bane
#

I can’t vote on that but I choose Mienshao

ornate tide
velvet root
ornate tide
#

Wallahi

velvet root
#
  • my snack plate that includes Goat cheese
civic harness
pale flame
ornate tide
#

How is there only one gastrodon vote is crazy

#

💀

pale flame
#

I love cheese.

velvet root
gray vine
pale flame
#

Okay well that is stupid propaganda to be fair.

velvet root
gray vine
velvet root
#

Guten tag

gray vine
#

well its 3am i would say Abend

#

or Morgen?

inland jewel
velvet root
inland jewel
#

and using bruxish in the game its actually really good

velvet root
inland jewel
#

gives psychic types immunity to Sucker punch

#

good physical moves and a good attack stat

#

more physical water types

ornate tide
#

All of these mons on this voting lists seem mid ingame compared to Golisopod and Carbink

velvet root
#

What is Carbink doing exactly?

inland jewel
#

and people clowning on its design. all done away but the amazing fusions that the spriter amde

rain locust
#

donate fairy + incredible bulk

ornate tide
velvet root
#

What are Carbink things tho

crimson robin
ornate tide
#

Carbink is a good nuzlocke Pokémon also in reg pokemon

inland jewel
#

im afraid people be seeing Carbink as discount klefki

rain locust
#

carbink is nothing like klefki

inland jewel
#

i know, but others don't

#

ive had chats with people who go. "Why should I use this mon when this mon is just inherently better

#

like, they don't take into account availablility, of a mon

rain locust
#

well sometimes that is the case

inland jewel
#

some mons can easily be used early game and then get phased out by later mons,

#

like Klefki is like post game

#

Carbink can be used early-mid game

lethal reef
velvet root
#

I mean aslong as Diancie doesnt get in we have a new mon for Diamond storm

ornate tide
#

Carbink and Klefki function very differently tho

lethal roost
#

im perfectly fine with carbink being in tbh i'm just worried about its body sprites

ornate tide
#

I need steel beam to added as a jirachi expert move ngl

lethal roost
#

its like the only reason id prefer Diancie over it

#

but first 🐐 very important

lethal reef
#

I'm honestly just excited to see what gets chosen this time (and excited to see team wild immediately make all the new wild fusions LOL)

crimson robin
#

Offense is basically all that matters in-game, Nuzlocke or no. Since in-game is basically a series of battles that you need to last through before making it to the next Pokemon center, you really want to be OHKOing as much as possible. Defensive mons just aren't as good because they suck up your potions. Carbink is not an exception

lethal reef
velvet root
ornate tide
#

Unless kommo o gets added then it might get kinda iffy

velvet root
#

Goliso is top tier

ornate tide
#

90% of the time golisopod should win the vote

inland jewel
lethal reef
ornate tide
inland jewel
#

thats the fun part, gen 8 also can't be added heehee

velvet root
crimson robin
#

People are so insistent that goliso will win that I'm really hoping it doesn't

inland jewel
#

biggest Body Press wanter... me

ornate tide
#

Someone that wins should ask for floette eternal

velvet root
ornate tide
#

Or just give florges or floette it’s rightful light of ruin expert move

inland jewel
lethal reef
ornate tide
#

Carbink santa sprites would feed families

crimson robin
#

I just don't think so much confidence is warranted.

velvet root
#

Also where is my Sprite creditheehee

ornate tide
rain locust
#

sorry i forgot to add it in

silent acorn
#

Reveal should be soon right?

#

At what time were the others?

crimson robin
velvet root
velvet root
ornate tide
#

Luvdisc will probably get into the game out of spite eventually right

#

Alolamola would be funny in if

inland jewel
#

actually Luvdisc has a good following

velvet root
#

Troll followers are strong tbh

inland jewel
#

since in the 1st poll, the bottom of the poll was Alomomola, Monkeys and Bruxish

#

this time around its Illumise;/Volbeat

velvet root
#

Btw imagine GameFreak makes swarm form luvdisk

inland jewel
stuck bane
inland jewel
#

they are actually doing really well this tiem around since we only get 1 line

stuck bane
#

Ooooh I see then yeah that makes sense

inland jewel
#

so if they get in thats 6 pokemon for 1

#

Monkeys and Wurmple are the most value for this vote

velvet root
#

Didnt the frogman say they are still at the bottom

inland jewel
#

yeah, because while they have the most value, its the same mon 3 tiems

stuck bane
crimson robin
#

Monkey stonks rising? We need to drop them back down 🗣️💯🔥🐵

inland jewel
#

if we drop them to the bottom, then they'll get in via most hated

#

which is how Bruxish, and the other one got in

crimson robin
#

All my homies hate the 6 identical mons that will clutter the available slots

proud lion
crimson robin
#

At some point it will be unfeasible to add more pokemon, and the monkeys don't deserve to be in this game more than 2/3 other lines

next flare
inland jewel
#

Actual value this time around, since most value out of our buck

stuck bane
inland jewel
#

the least value this vote has is single stage mons

crimson robin
inland jewel
inland jewel
#

the starraptor line took up 3 slots since 3 pokemon in t that line

stuck bane
inland jewel
proud lion
#

Frog should add a few mons of his choice as well

#

In addition to the two roster lines

stuck bane
#

He could, but up to him

inland jewel
#

im saying the slots you're refering to and the slots im refering to are different

next flare
proud lion
#

Give a few under appreciated mons some spotlight

inland jewel
stuck bane
proud lion
#

1 Slotters: Minior and Furfrou (maybe)
2 Slotters: Shaymin, Wishiwash, Hoopa
3 Slotters: Zygarde
4 Slotters: Castform
Too many slots for Smash: Spinda

inland jewel
#

They only alocate slots if a pokemon has a different stat spread/typing

#

so spinda, while having different images, will still be one slot

stuck bane
#

Yeah, spinda def would be 1 slot

proud lion
#

The Spinda was a joke

inland jewel
#

like how Sawsbuck will only have 2

stuck bane
#

Minior I think would be 2 slots because core form has different stats

crimson robin
#

So we're looking at a theoretical max of 809 mons (possibly minus Cherrim etc)? That's... over six hundred thousand fusions, goodness gracious

stuck bane
#

Bruh my phone dumb I can’t answer these it says 404 error

crimson robin
#

I won't reveal my secrets

wanton grove
#

Waiting for Volbeat to show up

stuck bane
#

Anyways lurantis

wanton grove
#

Steals the vote ez

rain locust
inland jewel
#

so... do people not know that was multiple choice or?

stuck bane
#

Wait I’m dumb I have a unova option scrafty (if I can only choose one)

crimson robin
rain locust
#

Erm... Epic Vote Fail?

inland jewel
#

It would be funny if a winner put up a mon that everyone absolutely despises

#

the chaos that this chat will have

stuck bane
#

Oh if it’s multiple choice (I can’t answer 404 error) slurp lur rib goliso scrafty are my 3s

proud lion
crimson robin
# proud lion

I was seriously considering betraying tropius to add Crustle

steel meadow
#

You shouldve

molten loom
ornate tide
#

More people vote big Bink smh

stuck bane
steel meadow
#

Lasanga Crab > Banana Dino

proud lion
molten loom
ornate tide
#

The most interesting mon on the list is carbink

inland jewel
#

i love crustle

stuck bane
#

There’s still time for you to win a 2nd sprite contest heehee

crimson robin
#

(teleports behind tropius with a boulder) "heh.. nothin personell, kid"

inland jewel
#

its a shame none of the gen 5 bug type are in

steel meadow
#

I love Carbink but im not sure what people would do with their body

inland jewel
#

Aside from Scolio and galv

#

but we can have so many more

crimson robin
#

I'll have to take a stab at the speed spriter contest to see if I can get Crustle in

velvet root
#

And Volcarona

ornate tide
#

Sharpness can’t be added in right

#

So sad

steel meadow
velvet root
#

Genesect

stuck bane
rancid nymph
inland jewel
#

yeah i meant the bug types i actuallly like

#

like Leavanny, Durant, and Escavalier

ornate tide
inland jewel
crimson robin
#

I admit that leavanny is pretty sweet

rain locust
#

ive just picked my mon but you guys arent gonna like it

proud lion
steel meadow
#

Durant heehee

velvet root
rain locust
#

the reveal will be funnier

stuck bane
#

Yeah unova still got like 10 more bug types

#

Cool

steel meadow
inland jewel
#

oh i cannot wait

#

im all for anarchy

velvet root
#

Its the Monkeys isnt it

proud lion
#

Fellow monkey follower?

stuck bane
#

Let chaos reign!

inland jewel
#

i mean, if the winners vote the monkeys then we have a lot of value coming next patch

crimson robin
stuck bane
#

A troll pick might be the only thing to spice this up, let the voices win

rain locust
proud lion
#

Figured we would get a little spice in the votes

ornate tide
#

Pluh

rancid nymph
#

The Monkeys get way more hate then they deserve

stuck bane
#

If it’s anything from unova I’m casting wall of text

crimson robin
#

Winners vote monkeys. Main vote also adds monkeys. Monkey sweep. Frog forced to add them twice. Chaos reigns

rain locust
#

Real...

ornate tide
steel meadow
#

Have u seen simisage and simi (tf is the fire type called)?

velvet root
#

I just notice
Shit like Wurmple would make me suffer

stuck bane
#

Sear

rain locust
#

||its carbink again|||| jk||

proud lion
#

Simesage

steel meadow
#

They dont get enough hate trubgun

crimson robin
#

Simispice? Simisizzle?

ornate tide
#

Simisage simipour and simisear

rancid nymph
proud lion
#

Simisoak

stuck bane
ornate tide
steel meadow
#

Oh simisear heehee

ornate tide
#

2x votes chat is this real

stuck bane
#

Please tell me this is what I think it is

proud lion
#

Simisigma

stuck bane
#

Did the frogammu I’ve come to bargain win?

inland jewel
#

if the Simis get added we can finally have a new triple fusion heehee

steel meadow
proud lion
#

Me looking at announcements

inland jewel
stuck bane
#

Watch it be burmy or something

rain locust
#

you guys will never guess it btw

gray vine
#

then why try

proud lion
#

Audino?

inland jewel
rain locust
#

bc someone might

stuck bane
#

Because funny

velvet root
gray vine
stuck bane
#

Watchog

#

Stoutland

proud lion
#

You-

crimson robin
stuck bane
#

Liepard

inland jewel
#

lmao

stuck bane
#

Monkeys

#

Musharna

next flare
#

Bouffalant?

proud lion
ornate tide
#

Carbink Cult

stuck bane
#

Thank god for this unova poster in my room

rain locust
#

bro got the pokemonic table

stuck bane
#

Anything here?

steel meadow
#

If carbink wins twice we should get big sister diancie too

ornate tide
rain locust
ornate tide
#

Ong

stuck bane
#

It came with my Pokémon white version, back when gamefreak poured love into their games

steel meadow
velvet root
stuck bane
#

Unfezant

proud lion
#

Does anyone not see the announcement?

stuck bane
#

Zebstrika

#

Gigalith

crimson robin
#

Add diancie, make a secret winner group chat and arrange to balance the votes perfectly to force frog to add both

stuck bane
#

Oh

ornate tide
#

luvdisc

rancid nymph
velvet root
#

Cryogonal cuz all the haters can go CRY about itheehee

steel meadow
#

Only unova mon that comes to mind is Excadrill

stuck bane
#

It is actually Carbink again

rain locust
#

No way! Its Carbink Again Real?

stuck bane
#

At least he gets more votes

silent acorn
#

Ah Jesus christ!

proud lion
#

That’s why I said “You sneaky little”

ornate tide
#

Based mased based even

gray vine
#

damn boring

ornate tide
silent acorn
#

Freaking knew it

#

There was gonna be that one dude making dupes

rain locust
crimson robin
#

The simplest solution was always gonna be to just give @rain locust 2x voting power, but I'm curious if they gave you any other options

rain locust
#

i could add another mon

silent acorn
#

Man

molten loom
silent acorn
#

Wait

proud lion
#

Archeops 2 Electric Boogaloo be like

ornate tide
silent acorn
#

It is actually carbink again

stuck bane
#

But it could’ve taken away from Carbink chances

silent acorn
#

Hahaha watch the other not pick it because of this

#

I CALLED IT

velvet root
silent acorn
#

I FREAKING CALLED IT

#

I KNEW IT WOULD HAPPEN

#

Yall said I was crazy but you guys are freaking naive

#

I knew it would happen

gray vine
#

?

#

its a pretty obvious take to get dupes lul

silent acorn
#

No chance it'll happen

#

Take that

velvet root
#

Imagine they dont vote Carbink at all now

silent acorn
#

Eat your words with cotton candy bissssshhhhh

rancid nymph
ornate tide
#

We need to hire carbink ninjas

silent acorn
velvet root
silent acorn
#

Guy was better off not doing this

crimson robin
#

Golisopod yappers quaking in their boots rn

stuck bane
ornate tide
stuck bane
#

I personally want lurantis, but goliso has alot going for it

#

Or scrafty

steel meadow
#

Oh they actually updated announcments im slow.

silent acorn
#

IT IS HIGHT TIER

crimson robin
#

Golisopod yappers also, uh, huffing copium I guess

stuck bane
#

It’s so weird unova got love this time around

rancid nymph
silent acorn
#

IT HAS THE HIGH GROUND

gray vine
#

lurantis is just more humanoids, so boring

velvet root
ornate tide
rain locust
#

no pod is good

proud lion
silent acorn
ornate tide
#

Wallahi I’m finished

gray vine
silent acorn
#

Tell us

#

What is not "boring"

gray vine
#

i voted for more then 1 mon

silent acorn
#

Uh hu

#

So did we all

ornate tide
#

Lunrantis has very bad sprite value

silent acorn
#

In the election post

#

Which

gray vine
#

then why ask me for 1 lul

steel meadow
#

I feel like the special vote is very spriter heavy so maybe they'll go for like a slurpuff

silent acorn
#

Pick one

gray vine
#

why would i

proud lion
#

What about the Elder Carbink

velvet root
gray vine
#

i voted for more then 1

stuck bane
silent acorn
gray vine
#

ye

silent acorn
#

So tell us what's not boring in that announcement

gray vine
#

its another humanoid

ornate tide
silent acorn
#

I love it

#

I love it

#

Everytime

ornate tide
#

6 comp winners 6 sprite winners

silent acorn
#

People really just want fruit

gray vine
stuck bane
proud lion
#

Maybe Carbink 2 could give Frogman a bonus mythical of Diancie for the Carbink sweep?

rain locust
#

Fruity? Fruity?

steel meadow
#

Wait really AzuGasp

#

The competetive council is powerful

crimson robin
#

Dex winner added goliso though

light gardenBOT
#

I don't think that's in IF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?

rain locust
#

I don't think that's in IF. 🤔 Did you misspell something?

silent acorn
#

Super unlikely

#

Froggo said you are not trying his hand this time

#

Froggo is god

#

Froggo is life

#

Return to froggo

#

Seriously it is not happening that way

#

He seemed pretty miffed when the voted Added regis and the Melo

silent acorn
#

Melo was fair and square tho

proud lion
steel meadow
#

What if he just puts barbaracle into the game

velvet root
proud lion
#

He should do that if he wants to

silent acorn
steel meadow
#

I would be in shambles.

ornate tide
#
  1. Crawdaunt
  2. golisopod
  3. carbink
  4. Scrafty
    For usability ingame ngl
rancid nymph
silent acorn
#

Fair question

ornate tide
#

Scrafty could go over carbink

proud lion
#

It’s his roster. Every Mon has fusion potential minus Gen 8 and 9

ornate tide
#

Maybe

steel meadow
#

Big attack and....?

ornate tide
proud lion
silent acorn
#

So how does the vote work for this winner if he can't pick his own mon?

stuck bane
steel meadow
#

Oh adaptability do br fun

rancid nymph
silent acorn
#

Do they have to get on their knees and beg Arkoos for a miracle?

crimson robin
#

We have 6 tourneys, 5 sprite contests, 1 concept art contest (probably will vote similar to spriters), and 1 dex contest.
The dex entry winner added Golisopod.
One tournament was won by someone who prioritizes spriting.
However, some spriter picks may have competitive applications and some competitive picks have good sprite potential.

silent acorn
civic harness
silent acorn
#

Can't pick your own

#

Otherwise this would be weird

stuck bane
silent acorn
#

How does each Carbink account for votes?

ornate tide
#

Idk if all the comp players are on the same page tho

rancid nymph
silent acorn
proud lion
#

Still waiting for the results for the Elusive Pokedex Event

stuck bane
ornate tide
stuck bane
crimson robin
#

It may depend on whether people vote "3 on the ones I want and 0 on the others" (boring) or "3, 2, 1, or 0 depending on my personal feelings" (better)

silent acorn
#

Man really wants the rock thing

#

I dont care tho

#

Their mess to deal with

ornate tide
#

It’s a inescapable mess

silent acorn
#

Lemme see what carbink is at in my points

#

Gotta kill it with a water gun

stuck bane
#

It’s funny, and if it’s a slight advantage whatever, he did win two tournaments, double votes on carbink might be a crazy bonus though, it might be able to stand up to goliso if it’s lucky

silent acorn
#

There we go

ornate tide
steel meadow
#

Does physicial fairy types exist not naned grabull? Thonking

rancid nymph
ornate tide
#

If it gets double votes in popular it probably wins

silent acorn
#

Down to 0, Scrafty upgraded to 3

stuck bane
#

Just special

silent acorn
crimson robin
#

Also have to realize that you can't say "spriters will vote X" or "competitive players will vote Y", personal preferences exist

steel meadow
stuck bane
#

Which honestly are better odds

ornate tide
#

Golisopod is the universal winner

silent acorn
#

We about to lose the cotton candy lel

silent acorn
#

Bad ending is pseudo AGAIN