pif-hoenn-discussion

[gray vine]

but neat to see

[molten latch]

Indeed

Chimecho does have an. . . Odd stats.

[warm skiff]

wish chimecho was useable but also it's silly

[gray vine]

its a cute mon

and so is its pre evo and dont get why people didnt like that it got one

Turtonator and the uhh Lighter Dragon need a pre evo

Duraludon

[feral bear]

YESS RIBOMBEEEEEE

https://tenor.com/view/ribombee-pokemon-gif-25622771

[glass patio]

did it really just make the zubat explode

[feral bear]

Queen of violence

[glass patio]

like it just straight up exploded

[clear lichen]

As someone who doesn't like it, it's because Chimecho really struggles in battle and needed an evolution

[zenith sinew]

Honestly, the electric eel with levitate is a great choice, just saying. Elektross is worth it.

[clear lichen]

So it getting a prevo was kinda just Gamefreak telling us to go fuck ourselves

[molten latch]

Ribbombee is my favorite too.

https://tenor.com/view/ribombee-pokemon-fairy-cute-gif-22197024

She looks like a fairy that can lead you to your journey.

Like Navi from Zelda

[civic harness]

Congrats, another girl in the raffle

[clear lichen]

Also nice, more Quiver Dance

Quiver Dance is a peak move

[feral bear]

Vote her NOW

[clear lichen]

Wouldn't Lunala fit with the entire aesthetic more

I might just be biased though

(I am)

(I definitely am)

[feral bear]

Lunala was already booked

[clear lichen]

Also if you were to ask me between Solgaleo and Lunala which one looked like it could dance better, I'd immediately answer Lunala

[feral bear]

Solg can do tippy tappys tho

https://tenor.com/view/omg-tippy-taps-excited-happy-dance-gif-17695306

[clear lichen]

Anyways give Solgaleo Victory Dance and Lunala Quiver Dance frfr

Definitely very fair and balanced

[clear lichen]

The most famous users of Quiver Dance typically can't do that

[sleek hornet]

Let’s gooooooo! Ribombee’s at the final first vote! :3

[molten latch]

Just like a Yamper

[clear lichen]

So clearly Quiver Dance doesn't require feet

Feet are only an option

I feel like Quiver Dance is more of a twirl

Yknow what I mean?

[sleek hornet]

Yeah when Volcarona does it, it twirls around. (Agreeing and adding to the response, Ik the response was for someone else)

[glass patio]

this is the last thing i thought i’d see in my life

[feral bear]

It does not matter what form of extremities u have, as long as the dance is in ur heart and spirit

[glass patio]

if either solgaleo or lunala can dance better 💀

[sleek hornet]

How would a Giant metal lion and Giant Moon Bat dance? 🤔

[glass patio]

dancing

[prime dust]

very carefully

[sleek hornet]

hmmmm, yeah.

Don’t wanna blow and shake too much away XD

[twin phoenix]

Come to think of it.. dang, they didn't give Lunala Lunar Dance.

[glass patio]

like this

[clear lichen]

The same way a moth would, I guess

At least for Lunala

[sleek hornet]

true

[clear lichen]

For Solgaleo, I have 0 clue just roll with it

[sleek hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/rei-gif-5492550348876737307

I’ll probably imagine it dancing like Simba or something.

XD

That’s how I would see it dancing. :3

But then again, it is an Enormous mon. 💀

https://tenor.com/view/simba-leaves-lion-king-gif-11121676

Or like this

Oh wait, its whole main (Idk how to spell it when it comes a lion) is metal, it’s not flowy like that. 💀

[stuck bane]

Ribombee is nice, another obvious 3 for me, but I don’t think it can stand up to lurantis in the votes unless it has something crazy for competitive players (however, a competitive player did pick it, so….)

[sleek hornet]

wait really?

[stuck bane]

Yep, see announcements, Ribombee was chosen after lurantis

[sleek hornet]

Okay I just looked, aweeeeesome. :3

But yeah it would most likely be voted out by Lurantis.

I think one of the only things it could offer is its pollen puff, but I can’t say too much since I’m just a Casual.

Ik there’s more

[clear lichen]

Personally I think I'd rate Ribombee and Lurantis equally

[sleek hornet]

That’s how I see it, Rimbombee is fairly popular.

Plus I love lurantis’s and Rimbomee’s aesthetic :3. Ones super cute, ones super cool. :3

[snow scroll]

I can't believe zubat just fucking died

[glass patio]

i actually forgot what was lurantis 💀

nvm i looked it up

[silent acorn]

0h wow two reveals today

Fomantis and Rimbombee really good picks

These elections are gonna be brutal

[unique flame]

for now my pick is slurpuff i like fairies and you have good room to work with candy stuff

lurantis/ribombe close second

[alpine rune]

You know what

I'm trying every contest later (that's left anyways)

I wanna cause chaos

[unique flame]

where i can find the rulling for the emote contest

[silent acorn]

With having to consider the possibility of Contrary Lurantis

[analog stag]

3/5 are fairies so far

[silent acorn]

Hmmm actually who votes on this? The winners?

[analog stag]

Kinda am hoping fairies and fighting types flood the poll

We need more of both

[alpine rune]

It'll be a raffle I think

[analog stag]

It’s not a raffle

[silent acorn]

Hmm. No

[analog stag]

Winners vote between the 13

[silent acorn]

It is some votes

Ah it was the winners right

[unique flame]

i actually dont know i was assuming we would vote in with this pool latter

[alpine rune]

I mean those are the winners though

[analog stag]

You can’t vote for your own

[silent acorn]

Yeah that's kinda why I asked

But nope its the 13 winners

[unique flame]

thats make more sense

[silent acorn]

I mean fair no pressure even though they got 3 fairies at the moment

Pelipper isn't looking so good right now

[analog stag]

So I’d recommend the winners to maybe form pacts or something or communicate with each other on the best choices

[unique flame]

we have enough birds

[silent acorn]

If 3/5 are fairies we got high chances fairies have 3 votes guarantee atleast

[analog stag]

I could see a fairy pact being made

[alpine rune]

I mean that doesn't make sense, it'll be just strategically rigged. If the other players vote randomly and you vote 0 on all other Mons except yours, you'd be statistically have more chance for your Mon to get in

[silent acorn]

With how many there are right now and the fact there isn't enough in game yeah

[silent acorn]

That's exactly why they made it that way

To avoid that

So basically

They pick their thing

Individually

So who knows it might be 3 people choosing one is enough if all others stay below that

Since they can't pick their own mon they'll be forced to consider a different choice

And right now Pelipper isn't looking good

[alpine rune]

So you have to Choose only 1 besides their mon

[analog stag]

Yeah

[alpine rune]

You can not not choose basically

[silent acorn]

It's a high risk reward

Yea

[analog stag]

If someone wins multiple events, they can actually kinda rig it by choosing bad picks and taking away more votes from the poll, cause that’d eliminate another potential voter out of 13.

Like if someone wins 3 events, there’s only 11 voters

[dusty arrow]

one billion lions when victini just exists:

[alpine rune]

NOOO NO MORE

[clear lichen]

A lot of Pokemon solo one billion lions

Lanturn solos the entire universe

[dusty arrow]

magikarp jumps over mountains

[clear lichen]

Unironically

[analog stag]

Gardevoir itself solos

It can summon black holes

[clear lichen]

We love nuking the entire universe!

[alpine rune]

[dusty arrow]

1 billion lions when ditto turns into a fucking nuke:

[clear lichen]

Not to mention the multiple literal gods

[clear lichen]

That's a tie

[dusty arrow]

and also THE literal god

[unique flame]

incineroar intimidate than parting shot what lions will do with that low of attack

[clear lichen]

One billion lions when Kyogre Water Spout:

Or Caly-I Glacial Lance

[dusty arrow]

i dont think the lions would be normal type

they would be typeless

BECAUSE THEY ARENT POKEMON

[clear lichen]

Oh

[analog stag]

What the actual fuck are the lions gonna do against Magcargo, who is hotter than the SUN?

[unique flame]

one milion lions when they sent pyroar as a spy among then to fumble their plans

[clear lichen]

Caly-S Astral Barrage time

[clear lichen]

Due to laws of energy it isn't quite as one sided as you think

[dusty arrow]

ITS FUNNY BECAUSE PYROAR WAS MADE IN THE FRENCH REGION

[clear lichen]

(It's still one sided you aren't gonna bite magma)

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-spy-stone-turned-platnix-gif-27411338

[clear lichen]

Lanturn might unironically be the 2nd strongest Pokemon if we only look at dex entries

[dusty arrow]

lions when shedinja looks away from them

[clear lichen]

2nd to Arceus ofc

Idk why the lions debate exists outside of memes

Obviously when looking at it from a meme standpoint it's just funny and goofy but I've seen actual people think the lions stand a chance

[dusty arrow]

but a billion is a lot of lions.....

(this is a joke)

[clear lichen]

Ok

[clear lichen]

Wait we should move to #other-pokemon-games if we continue

[dusty arrow]

reminder that ferrothorn doesnt even have 500 bst

which means there could be a ferrothorn evo

and you know what that means

[clear lichen]

I remind myself that every day

It's hilarious

Eviolite is usually not too great

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-gif-27442765

[stuck bane]

To add off of this, I think the jirachi movie confirms jirachi grants wishes by teleporting things in existence from one place to another. Aka: you wish for a million dollars, some millionaire suddenly loses a million dollars he had in his vault

So jirachi prob just teleports them into space or something

[clear lichen]

Mainly because Heavy-Duty Boots are just broken

However, Ferrothorn resisting Rocks might make it work?

But Spikes exist

Tbf Ferrothorn usually runs Leftovers

[dusty arrow]

spikes arent that common compared to rocks honestly

[clear lichen]

But even then, losing Leftovers is massive

Ferrothorn with Eviolite would probably only be about as good as Leftovers Ferrothorn

[dusty arrow]

make ferrothorns evolution have a special ability that is just leftovers

[clear lichen]

And something tells me with how other Pokemon evolutions are, Ferrothorn's evolution is gonna be batshit insane if it ever gets made

(It won't)

(Tbf that's what people said about Bisharp)

[dusty arrow]

anyway

[molten latch]

I told you, I've already vote Crawdaunt.

Isn't that enough?

[dusty arrow]

ice type magikarp is separate from him though

[stuck bane]

Oh dang pollen puff with that speed stat could be crazy competitively for doubles though.

I think lurantis has best odds, Slurpuff next, then ribombee, then Carbink, and then Pelipper.

I think a surprise win from Slurpuff or Ribombee is still very possible, but lurantis with contrary and 3rd place in the sprite vote is like, the toughest competition.

Golisopod is the only thing that might be able to go toe to toe with lurantis, but idk how valuable water type with spikes is compared to contrary.

[slim otter]

Please add points to Gastrodon.
Thank you for your consideration.
Good night.

[dusty arrow]

i think pelipper has more of a chance then carbink, and ribombee a better chance than slurpuff

pelipper has a rain ability outside of kyogre, and ive seen more ribombee support than slurpuff

[feral bear]

i have seen barely anything for ribombee sadly, and theres like many people championing slurp, just check spritework

[dusty arrow]

oh

well i would like slurpuff honestly

carbink however..

[feral bear]

slurp is def the most likely fairy to win at this point

[dusty arrow]

i dont really like carbink

[stuck bane]

Slurpuff and Ribombee are definitely close in the race, but I don’t think pelipper’s rain alone will carry it above the absurd defenses Carbink would bring, but carbink might also be hindered by how many people hate stall

[feral bear]

carbink is a lil clumsy kutie

[dusty arrow]

shuckle > carbink any day

[sleek hornet]

Although it’s stats are okay…it’s design is :3

[dusty arrow]

counter argument

[sleek hornet]

It’s not bad stats but it’s not the best either

[stuck bane]

Yeah, but those defenses on a fairy type, one of the best types, seems to be the most enticing to them

[dusty arrow]

belly drum + unburden

[glass patio]

rahhh 🔥🔥🔥

[dusty arrow]

and design wise i dont really think carbink adds much that another rock type doesnt

we already have regular rocks, ice types for crystals, and steelix for crystals as well

[stuck bane]

Belly drum won’t be in competitive, so players won’t look at that, but there’s still fun stuff you can do with unburden

[feral bear]

its the perfect setup for an eventual diancie release, laying the groundwork hehe

[sleek hornet]

Hmmm, yeah nobody looks at mons competitively like couragestar said

[feral bear]

[redacted]

[quaint mauve]

... I was gonna say at least carbink is screens, but Apparently while reflect is 18, light screen is fucking 60.

[dusty arrow]

i think diancie will be added eventually regardless, even though carbink is completely linked to diancie

either that or if carbink doesnt win, it will be added alongside diancie

i do think silly rock bunny could be cute though

[stuck bane]

Jojo is right, People could ABSOLUTELY vote carbink on the 1% chance it gets diancie in, ribbon has carried the diancie movement

[sleek hornet]

And unburden is only effective when you use an item. Hmmmm, but then again, you could use an item to boost its speed and then do belly drum. :3

[feral bear]

my sister

[dusty arrow]

belly drum, sitrus berry

belly drum gets you to half, slurpuff eats the berry and regens to get 75%

[quaint mauve]

Is that you Gluttony Linoone?

[dusty arrow]

and slurpuff also gets drain punch

[sleek hornet]

Yeppers

Although it’s speed is 72

[dusty arrow]

nah

OBSTAGOON RAHHHH

[feral bear]

we need a pure fairy so badly, it must be slurp although i like all the choices

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/obstagoon-obstagoon-my-beloved-makesweet-funyracoonthign-gif-21230394

[sleek hornet]

Yes!

My boi obstagoon

[quaint mauve]

Would, but i dont own that generation

[dusty arrow]

still gets doubled which will help any mon, unless its like, less than 50 tbh

[stuck bane]

Thing we theory crafted before learning belly drum was banned in showdown group

[sleek hornet]

I think some mons might outspeed it. Wait, how much does unburden increase the mons speed?

[feral bear]

unless someone picks aromatisse 👀

[stuck bane]

They all have so many variables UGH

I’d be happy with any tho

[dusty arrow]

deoxys/slurpuff

[stuck bane]

So far

[sleek hornet]

Ahhhh I see! Forgot you can EV train

[quaint mauve]

according to bulba its an outright double?

[dusty arrow]

thats how unburden works yes

[stuck bane]

It’s mostly pirouette body carrying that absurd speed stat tho

[dusty arrow]

absurd???

109 is not absurb

absurd*

[quaint mauve]

shrug he asked.

[stuck bane]

Plus unburden after a single belly drum is

[dusty arrow]

yeah

[sleek hornet]

Oh riiiiight…

So slurpuff is pretty good then, nvm.

[dusty arrow]

shell smash + white herb though

[sleek hornet]

Good to know actually XD.

[stuck bane]

Yeah I think this is something that can be done tho

[dusty arrow]

belly drum would probably still be better

[quaint mauve]

the 90% accuracy on play rough is the only thing that worries me there though. All that setup only to miss

[sleek hornet]

Yeah I hate moves that are under 100% accuracy, it scares me.

[dusty arrow]

however..

(clamperl propaganda)

[quaint mauve]

and thats the only physical move in slurps movepool.

[stuck bane]

That’s the gamble of max attack, also the build mostly focuses on acrobatics from meloetta since no item, so anything max attack acrobatics can’t kill leave to drain punch and play rough

[dusty arrow]

fairies dont exactly have a physical stab outside play rough though

unless you are a pokemon called grimmsnarl and iron valiant

[sleek hornet]

Yeaaaaah.

Those mons have spirit break? Right?

[quaint mauve]

draining kiss being special but making contact still fucks with me for some reason

[clear lichen]

Drain Punch

[dusty arrow]

thats the joke yes

[sleek hornet]

Aahhh XD

[dusty arrow]

still better than physical rock types

[sleek hornet]

Absolutely

[clear lichen]

Ngl all the Fairy physical moves are kinda bad

Play Rough has like OK power

But isn't 100% accurate?

[quaint mauve]

thats not on the gen 7 list though, so froggie would need to make an exception. not on tm, tutor, any of it

[clear lichen]

I just checked, it is

[quaint mauve]

... im actively looking at that, where is it?

[clear lichen]

Idk, all I know is that I'm checking via Showdown

[sleek hornet]

We need more psychical fairies and fairy type moves. (That are good, not saying the current physical fairy types are bad though)

[clear lichen]

And it is definitely there

Spirit Break isn't good either

[dusty arrow]

we have play rough (90 power, 90 accuracy)
spirit break (75 power, 100 accuracy, lowers special attack)
and magical torque (100 power 100 accuracy, 30% to confuse)

[quaint mauve]

it has it in gen 8, but we're on 7.

[dusty arrow]

BUT TORQUE IS ONLY ON THE FAIRY TYPE REVAVROOM

[clear lichen]

75 BP is low

Very low

[sleek hornet]

Yeaaaaah at least boost it up to 85

Or 80

[clear lichen]

It does lower SpA at least

So that's nice

[rain locust]

id muuuuch rather have water spikes than another contrary mon that may or may not be broken

[clear lichen]

But you would definitely rather have high BP on an offensive mon

Like yknow

Iron Valiant

[quaint mauve]

its like trop kick but with a more relevant typing on high end

[sleek hornet]

Indeed that’s what I like about playrough too, it lowers attack.

[clear lichen]

Play Rough is decent on paper I guess

[rain locust]

only 10% chance to though

[dusty arrow]

ok but its not as bad as kartana

he only gets smart strike as steel stab lmao

[clear lichen]

But man that 90% chance to hit?

It feels more like 90% chance to miss

I land Focus Blast way more consistently than this trash

[quaint mauve]

Thats XCOM, Baby.

[clear lichen]

And Focus Blast is also far more rewarding

[dusty arrow]

70 power, only side effect is cannot miss

[sleek hornet]

Yeah 90% is more of like %3 hit when it comes to those
One hit kill moves.

[clear lichen]

That part's just poor RNG though

Play Rough is mid at best

[sleek hornet]

And yk how the AI ALWAYS HITS THEM EVERY TIME?

Like OMG

T-T

[clear lichen]

Spirit Break is below average

And of course, Iron Valiant doesn't have Play Rough

[quaint mauve]

Dont most of the ohko moves just, lie about their accuracy anyways? they have weird shit like level modularity going on.

[clear lichen]

But instead has Spirit Break

[rain locust]

idk about you but i dont want to face this

can even slot twave last like serp

[clear lichen]

-1 SpA is NOT saving its ass

[sleek hornet]

Yeaaaah it’s a force to be reckoned with.

[clear lichen]

74/60 special bulk 💀

[quaint mauve]

that would make a cute sprite too actually.

[sleek hornet]

It’s a glass cannon.

[dusty arrow]

what was the showdown site again?

[sleek hornet]

T-T

[rain locust]

cute sprite beating the shit out of me unless i run like fairy/ghost clef

[rain locust]

https://play.pokeathlon.com/#teambuilder

[dusty arrow]

much appreciated

[clear lichen]

Glass cannon? No, that's not quite a glass cannon

Bulk isn't good

[dusty arrow]

im going to throw some crackhead ass moveset together

[clear lichen]

But it's decent

[rain locust]

80/95/85 is not glass cannon material

[clear lichen]

You could live a lower end coverage SE with that

[rain locust]

its when you reach weavile levels of 70/65/85

[sleek hornet]

Oh I thought glass cannon meant very high attacking stat but horrible bulk like Gardevior or Florges.

[clear lichen]

Like a Fire Punch or something

[rain locust]

florges has very good bulk though

[clear lichen]

Florges is like the worst example

[rain locust]

another requirement for a glass cannon is it has to be fast

[sleek hornet]

It does in special but yeah.

[clear lichen]

Not quite, you'd describe Rampardos as a glass cannon

But it isn't exactly fast

[rain locust]

id describe ramp as a shitmon

[clear lichen]

It's a glass cannon but it takes 50 years to fire

[clear lichen]

True

[sleek hornet]

Yeah Ik thats all I can think of T-T

[clear lichen]

It is predominantly a shitmon

[dusty arrow]

i saw someone in a showdown chat say they use special attacking rampardos

IM NOT KIDDING

[clear lichen]

They likely aren't joking

[dusty arrow]

BUT RAMPARDOS' SPECIAL COVERAGE IS FUCKING INSANE???

[clear lichen]

SpA Rampardos is used

Sheer Force Life Orb

[rain locust]

i think its used mixed in lower tiers to hit like aggron or something

[clear lichen]

That's how desperate Rampardos is

[dusty arrow]

HES ON SOME GEN 1 ASS LEARNSET

[sleek hornet]

Hmmmm, I guess Greninja or Meowscarada is glass cannon?

[clear lichen]

I'd say so

[dusty arrow]

correct

ALRIGHT GUYS

IF YOU WANT A GLASS CANNON

[dry fiber]

Losing my hope that lilligant is getting in this time smh my guys where the propaganda at 😔

[sleek hornet]

okay yeah that’s my example

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/deoxys-attack-deoxys-deoxys-attack-form-pokémon-deoxys-deoxys-regeneration-gif-26249918

deoxys attack is my glass cannon example

[clear lichen]

Iron Valiant is also a glass cannon

I guess the physical bulk isn't too terrible, it's still kinda shit

[sleek hornet]

Oh yes! Forgot!

[clear lichen]

But that special bulk

Dear god

[dusty arrow]

live kartana reaction

[sleek hornet]

Wait Kartana is also a glass

[clear lichen]

It does get what is basically a free Choice Scarf that doesn't lock your moceset though

Kartana's physical bulk is batshit insane

But I'd say its special bulk allows it to be classified as a glass cannon

It has the same Defence stat as Ferrothorn

[sleek hornet]

Coolies, but what would Florges be considered as if it’s not a glass cannon?

[clear lichen]

Special wall

[gleaming solstice]

Kartana as soon as it comes into contact with ember

[sleek hornet]

aaaah, okay. Now I get it. 🤔

[clear lichen]

Kartana could probably tank like

A coverage Fire Punch

I'd assume so

People worry too much about quad weaknesses sometimes

[dusty arrow]

look at this monster i created

[rain locust]

i wouldnt say batshit insane but it is p solid if you want it to take hits

[dusty arrow]

deep sea tooth doubles special attack btw

[clear lichen]

Gonna get KOd before you even Shell Smash

[rain locust]

like how the defog set appeared in nd8

[sleek hornet]

I already know that Florges won’t be getting in because:

#1 doesn’t have much to offer ability and move set wise (maybe, correct me if I’m wrong)

#2 design is too hard to replicate and is too complicated for spiriters and would take too much time.

[dusty arrow]

it would still be funny

[clear lichen]

That is big damage tbf

[sleek hornet]

Noice

[dusty arrow]

you would be surprised how many people i have swept with clamperl

[rain locust]

it brings raw stats but its too similar to sylveon/togekiss

[clear lichen]

But idk, that 97 speed seems too low

[dusty arrow]

(clamperl with deep sea tooth special attack > mega blastoise special attack)

[clear lichen]

Mega Blastoise? That's what you want to point up?

[sleek hornet]

That as well

[clear lichen]

You can do much better than that

[rain locust]

yeah i was gonna say

[civic harness]

Hello again

[dusty arrow]

when timid

[rain locust]

the stat is equal to 250 base spa

the set gets walled by shed though

[clear lichen]

Your SpA easily dwarfs Pogre's

[warm skiff]

you guys plan your showdown teams? I prefer to put together awful sets with my limited knowledge and hope they work together /hj

[clear lichen]

And you bring up mf Mega Blastoise

[dusty arrow]

BROO SAME

[clear lichen]

The problem is that Clamperl is slow

Clamperl fusions are also slow as a result

And they're probably folding to most that even touches them

[warm skiff]

I need to test my doubles team so badly because 90% of this shit is NOT working at all

[clear lichen]

If you don't outspeed and OHKO you're dead

[sleek hornet]

Wait, what about hunter and Gorbyss or wait, yeah they’re probably slow too. 🤔

[clear lichen]

And as such you cannot Shell Smash

If you fuse with a Sturdy Pokemon, you probably won't outspeed even at +2

[clear lichen]

Deep Sea Tooth doesn't work on them

Iirc

[sleek hornet]

Wait really? Did they remove huntail?

[dusty arrow]

tooth only works on clamperl

[clear lichen]

A lot of items only work on the prevo

[dusty arrow]

the evos still get shell smash though which is funny

[sleek hornet]

Oh I thought you were talking about clamperl mb. 💀

[clear lichen]

Deep Sea Tooth Gorebyss/Huntail might go hard ngl

If it worked at least

Damn nvm

[dusty arrow]

the fastest sturdy mon is ogerpon cornerstone (not in the vote) or togedemaru

[clear lichen]

52 speed?

Wth

[dusty arrow]

but togedemaru only has 96 speed and ogerpon is a physical attacker

and also togedemaru has ass stats

and is a physical attacker

[sleek hornet]

Yeaaaaaaah. T-T

Not a lot of physical electric moves

[clear lichen]

Togedemaru does have a signature Electric type move

Iirc, it's an Iron Head clone

[sleek hornet]

Wait volt tackle right?

[dusty arrow]

zing zap yes

[clear lichen]

Not the best but it doesnt do recoil or kill you for missing/hitting an immunity

[steel meadow]

Zing zap?

[sleek hornet]

Oh yeah zing zap nvm

[dusty arrow]

no thats the move that the piece of shit dumbass mouse named pikachu stole that move from every other electric type

[quasi elm]

Pangoro is adorable and that's my whole argument

[dusty arrow]

(i dont like pikachu)

[clear lichen]

I could tell

[steel meadow]

The fact that most electric mons has to settle for thunder fang/punch or wild charge is sad

[dusty arrow]

at least they got supercell slam

[sleek hornet]

Yeah oof mb, mixed it up 💀

[dusty arrow]

..which is just jump kick

[clear lichen]

I'm also pissed that Pikachu stole Volt Tackle from the other physical electrics

[dusty arrow]

EXACTLY

[clear lichen]

I dont really hold any other ill will towards it anymore though

[steel meadow]

Wth is a supercell slam? Is it from the gen 9 dlc?

[dusty arrow]

yeah

[clear lichen]

Used to hate it due to how overrated it was but hating things for being overrated is cringe

[viscid fossil]

you say "other physical electrics" as if pikachu is a physical electric

[clear lichen]

True its a mixed electric

Slightly physical bias

[dusty arrow]

100 bp, 95% accuracy, makes you lose 50% of your hp if you miss

[sleek hornet]

Wait,
So other electric mons were having it? Volt tackle?

[clear lichen]

But still closer to mixed

[dusty arrow]

so just jumpkick

not even HIGH jump kick

[clear lichen]

If Supercell Slam was a HJK clone it probably would be good

Alas

[viscid fossil]

huh, it does have higher physical

[dusty arrow]

pikachu (and its entire evo line) are the only ones who get volt tackle

which is part of the reason why i hate pikachu

[steel meadow]

I wish every type could get a 80-90bp 100% accurate move

[clear lichen]

I'd prefer if it was 90 BP

[dusty arrow]

thats both physical and special

[sleek hornet]

Ah okay nvm, it sounded like it belonged to other mons and it literally stole it. 💀

[clear lichen]

80 BP is a bit lacking

[dusty arrow]

it DID steal it from other mons though

[clear lichen]

Shadow Ball gets away with it because Ghost is cracked offensively

[dusty arrow]

so fuck you pikachu
also let raichu use light ball you greedy fucking mouse

[clear lichen]

But Dragon definitely struggles a lot

[dusty arrow]

i mean for years the best ice physical was icicle crash

until triple axel and ice spinner were added

[sleek hornet]

True, there are other mons that would be better off having it.

[dusty arrow]

mamoswine can still only use icicle crash sadlyh

sadly*

[viscid fossil]

I will never understand why power gem was on literally 2 rock types in its debut gen

[clear lichen]

Pick between not enough damage for how good your type is offensively, killing yourself if your opponent has a Fairy type or Dragon Rush

Hmm

[dusty arrow]

literally only probopass and nosepass

[clear lichen]

I wonder what to pick

[dusty arrow]

and CORSOLA OF ALL THINGS

[steel meadow]

I understand that some types get weaker physical or special moves because the type is thought to be more physical or special. For example rock and fighting type getting Aura sphere and whatever the rock type move is called with 80 bp cuz theyre mostly physical

[dusty arrow]

THEY GAVE VESPIQUEN POWER GEM
BUT NOT ANY OF THE SPECIAL ATTACKING ROCKS

[clear lichen]

Dragon does have Draco Meteor though so they have that at least

[steel meadow]

But atleast they get a 100% accurate move

[clear lichen]

FUCK IT WE CHOICE SPECS DRACO METEOR

I love typos

[sleek hornet]

Yep totally makes sense. T-T

I would Choice specs drago meteor all day

XD

[clear lichen]

2 Draco Meteors>2 Dragon Pulses

And obviously 1 Draco Meteor vs 1 Dragon Pulse isn't particularly close

And in a game like Pokemon where you need to switch often, that bigger damage per hit is important

Since either ways you may not be able to stay in for long

[sleek hornet]

I wish Surperior was Dragon/Grass and had drago meteor, IK it’ll be OP af with Contrary but I don’t care

[dusty arrow]

silly

[clear lichen]

4MSS called

[clear lichen]

Why -Speed?

[dusty arrow]

so special attack isnt lowered

[steel meadow]

Grass/Dragon seperior inc

[clear lichen]

Nobody is forcing you to use Leaf Storm

[dusty arrow]

yeah but silly stab

[steel meadow]

wait i forgot a word. Mega seperior*

[sleek hornet]

Ik it would give it a 4x Ice weakness but gosh dang it!

[clear lichen]

This doesn't outspeed base 100

And it infuriates me

(At +1)

[dusty arrow]

i thought solar blade on a mon with drought would be funny

[sleek hornet]

Woah what program is this?

[dusty arrow]

@sleek hornet

[clear lichen]

Custom Pokemon Showdown server for multiple fangames, most notably Infinite Fusion

[sleek hornet]

I see…🤔

That’s pretty cool.

[sleek hornet]

Ty! :3

[dusty arrow]

👍

[sleek hornet]

I might wanna check out what slurpuff does. :3

[crimson robin]

Not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but does it bug anyone else that the spriters and competitive players are in the same vote to add a Pokemon?
I'm very excited and grateful that we get to choose any, of course, but it seems like there will be a sharp divide between the choices that would be good competitively (Pelipper) and the ones people actually want to sprite (Lurantis). I realize there is plenty of overlap, but it still seems like the vote will be "along party lines" if you will.

[sleek hornet]

Hmmm, I haven’t thought of that actually. 🤔

[clear lichen]

All of the Pokemon on the list provide something to make a fusion better

[rain locust]

i disagree i wouldnt vote for pelipper

[clear lichen]

So none of them are really extremely disadvantaged

[rain locust]

i wouldnt vote for lurantis either tbf

[sleek hornet]

I would vote for Lurantis and Ribombee, prbly slurpuff too tbh.

[warm skiff]

I want to see people try to make body sprites for pelipper without adding the beak in

[clear lichen]

Especially since Lurantis would be the first actually usable Contrary mon, Slurpuff is a decent Unburden mon (I'm still sad about no Sticky Web), Ribombee also has Sticky Web and Quiver Dance as well, Pelipper is overall a better Drizzle mon than Politoed, Carbink has good defences and the Fairy type

[rain locust]

man made horrors beyond comprehension

[clear lichen]

I could go more in depth

But I'm lazy

[stuck bane]

Yeah, that’s one downside I’ve talked about a bit. Mons that don’t really provide to both sides get no chance like Pelipper, meanwhile something that provides amazing competitive play (contrary) and amazing sprite potential (3rd place in spriter vote) like lurantis means lurantis is nearly guaranteed to win. Imo raffles are more fun because all mons have equal chances to get in, but we’ll see how this vote shapes up

[sleek hornet]

Oooo goodness, I swear if someone makes a toilet joke out of pelipper xd.

[rain locust]

thing is slurpuff is probably outclassed by hawlucha/sceptile for unburden

[clear lichen]

Probably? It definitely is

It not having Sticky Web is so painful

[rain locust]

thats realllly funny

[clear lichen]

It can't suicide lead anymore I'm depressed now

[rain locust]

its comp value went down the drain

[clear lichen]

It's so over

[crimson robin]

Where can we see the results of the last vote? I'm curious to see how my favorites did

[warm skiff]

people are 100% going to try and keep the beak which I consider the coward's way out /lh

[crimson robin]

Could Pelipper even be recognizable without the beak? That's its one defining feature

[stuck bane]

Uhhh there’s a few, main vote we don’t know, spriter vote is pic below, and raffle also below but everything in that had a 1/12 chance because dice roll

[azure python]

So do we know the results of the pokemon vote?

[stuck bane]

This one? No not yet

[azure python]

O

[warm skiff]

tbh I just want people to try to make it work
probopass's sprites all keep the nose when it's a body mon

[sleek hornet]

How long would it normally take for them to pick a winner and for the winner to pick?

[gray vine]

well the winner is the one who wins

[sleek hornet]

wait so they don’t pick one?

[crimson robin]

seeing minior, tropius and crustle gives me hope for my boys. Just need masquerain to get some more traction now

[bitter comet]

I pray that the mon that is added is one that I like instead of one that I feel mid about

[azure python]

I kinda wonder why they can't add all of them...

[warm skiff]

still think furfrou would be a fun option to get in game

[gray vine]

depends on the contest lul, if its a tournament its the one who wins it, if its an art thing then yeah they get picked lul

[bitter comet]

Things aren’t really looking the best right now since three of the mons in the special vote are once I feel mid about

[stuck bane]

Honestly, main vote is probably already decided unless a ton of people try to troll at the last minute

As for special vote, all winners need to be decided first, then they all vote for each other’s mons (however long that takes, organizing time zones is hard) and then winner is determined then

[bitter comet]

But all the competitions to decide the winners aren’t complete yet so there’s still hope

[sleek hornet]

I see. 🤔

[stuck bane]

Be aware both pics are basically spriter only, competitive side didn’t exist at the time so results may vary, and it sounds like it is based on what frog said

[sleek hornet]

Wait, if they don’t pick in the tournament, how would they win? Oh wait, the voters right?

[warm skiff]

there's size limits in game that need major updates to the actual software used to make this mod from what I know of, adding a lot of pokemon at once would exacerbate the issue and the creator is working on other things

[gray vine]

huh?

do you not know what a tournament is

the one who wins wins

they dont do all that fighting to the top and then its still a vote

[sleek hornet]

Ik what a tournament is, probably not in this format

[crimson robin]

I assume based on typical Showdown activity that the competitive scene is still fairly small compared to the spriting scene

It's not uncommon to just not be able to find a randbat opponent, and if base Pokemon is anything to go off of, randbats is the most popular format by quite a bit

[stuck bane]

That’s not the main issue, the issue is even if there’s more spriters, there’s 13 winner slots: 6 tournament, 6 spriting, and 1 dex entry.

If you want your Mon to have the best odds of winning, it has to appeal to both spriters and competitive, even if spriters vastly outnumber the competitive players

[sleek hornet]

Hmmmm:

So do they just…idk compare drawings or something and then whoever has the best drawings wins?
My apologies Idk how a tournament would work here. Because in a tournament, multiple people just fight each other until they get to the top. 💀

[clear lichen]

Pokemon battle tournament

[azure python]

Ah. Makes sense since this is a much smaller project

[clear lichen]

Not art tournament

[sleek hornet]

Ah so it is a Pokémon battle.

Okay that’s what I was kind of thinking at first.

[dusty arrow]

chat look at this insane ice type magikarp fusion i made

[clear lichen]

The entire thing is summed up well here honestly

[crimson robin]

Yep, I'm basically relying on the main vote here.

[sleek hornet]

Thx for clearing that up

[warm skiff]

it might just be this, a lot of sprites and slots to fill

[stuck bane]

I can explain

Battle tournament is simple, bracket system and winner of that gets to pick a Mon for the special vote

Contest is a little different, people have a window of time to draw sprites, and then judges (usually mods) decide between the sprites which is best and the winner of that gets to add a mon

[warm skiff]

oh my god we could have done an outfit contest so the outfits we need get done....

[clear lichen]

I'm actually curious what the 1st mon actually is

[crimson robin]

Imagine if competitive players give 3s to all the competitively good mons, spriters do the same to the best spriting potential mons, and it comes down to dex entry winner's choice

[clear lichen]

Wait hold up let me think

[dusty arrow]

wdym? the og mon is ice type magikarp

[clear lichen]

No as in all jokes aside

Is that Kyurem-White/Kyurem?

[azure python]

HOLY FU-

Thats a lot of mons

[civic harness]

We work too much

[sleek hornet]

Aaaaah okay, now I understand, my apologies I thought that since this is the fusion discord that creates sprites, I thought it would be only based off that, and now I just realized that they’ve added pokemon showdown, whoops. 💀

[stuck bane]

All good

[sleek hornet]

appreciate the explanation and for clearing that up. XD

Also srry @gray vine

[gray vine]

i just didnt know what ya meant lul, thoguht you read the explanation in #announcements

[sleek hornet]

Reading isn’t my strong suite XD

[gray vine]

which does mention battles

[dusty arrow]

this is actually just fucking evil

[clear lichen]

FINALLY
USABLE STEEL STAB ON KARTANA

This is basically Zaican-C if they nerfed its speed instead of Attack

But then decided to give it Knock Off for some stupid reason

Nerfing the speed of Crowned would've made more sense tbh

It's holding a massive sword

[sleek hornet]

Yep, missed that entirely, that’s the reason why I got confused, because I thought since this is a server that makes fusion sprites, I thought it would only be based off that. And now Ik that tournaments actual mon battles are involved through showdown. 💀

[clear lichen]

I'd imagine it would get slower

[gray vine]

and so ugly

[clear lichen]

I still don't know why they gave this motherfucker Terastalisation

[dusty arrow]

and let him dynamax

[clear lichen]

And removed its best check

[gray vine]

cause every mon has it

[dusty arrow]

and give him HIGHER SPEED THAN ZACIAN-C

[sleek hornet]

Can I just vote horsey? :3

[dusty arrow]

AND A 120 BASE POWER STAB MOVE COMING FROM 165 SPECIAL ATTACK

[clear lichen]

Like bro the only thing keeping Calyrex-S not bannable (it was already broken) was Yveltal

[bitter comet]

Figure out how to code them in and you can

[clear lichen]

And then they remove Yveltal

And just in case they gave it full coverage and type changing

They shouldn't have let Calyrex into SV

[gray vine]

i didnt know it was

still a big uggo

[clear lichen]

Bow to the new strongest Pokemon of all time, I guess

[sleek hornet]

Yveltyl, Y?

xd

[clear lichen]

Nope, Calyrex-S in Gen 9

[dusty arrow]

more speed or better type

(grass/psychic compared to psychic/steel)

[clear lichen]

Depends on the context

[sleek hornet]

Oh no I’m not saying Yveltyl is in, I knew that part, just making a joke.

[dusty arrow]

this context

[clear lichen]

It wouldn't stand a chance either ways with Tera Fairy

[clear lichen]

Steel/Psychic and Grass/Psychic are about equally bad offensively

Just go Grass/Psychic

[dusty arrow]

counter point

meteor mash stab

[sleek hornet]

True dat.

[clear lichen]

Any Deo-A is instantly dead to a calm breeze anyways

[clear lichen]

I'd honestly rather use Leaf Blade

Since it can't miss

[dusty arrow]

fair

[clear lichen]

And both types are rather inept offensively

[bitter comet]

Man, imagine if one of these days when somebody says “figure out how to code it in“ or something like that and the other person just does that somehow lol

[stuck bane]

It’s bound to happen

Legend speaks of a chosen one

Who will climb the mountain of code

[dusty arrow]

this could just be funny

[stuck bane]

Just for frog to say

[sleek hornet]

Ngl I would like to see them try. I can’t code, me brain can’t handle it. xd

[stuck bane]

“Thanks for the effort, but to me, Gen 8+ isn’t canon and I’m not adding them, I’ll let you add diancie tho”

[bitter comet]

Yeah, same lol

[sleek hornet]

XD

[oak owl]

emolga?

[sleek hornet]

I always wonder what the limit is with Infinite fusion.

[stuck bane]

It’s at least up to all mons in Gen 7, I know that for sure, but it still takes time coding them in if they even can be coded in

[sleek hornet]

yeah…I always wondered how that program works. 🤔

And what its limit is.

[dusty arrow]

WHAT HAVE I DONE

[clear lichen]

A little bit of trolling

[stuck bane]

Diggersby tho

[dusty arrow]

extreme killer arceus aint got shit on diggersxys

[dusty arrow]

exactly

diggersby

[clear lichen]

Tasty STAB Extreme Speed off 138 Attack

And then add Huge Power

[dusty arrow]

and band

[sleek hornet]

Too bad its design is…meh (at least to me) Well actually, it looks pretty cool.

[clear lichen]

And that's probably over base 400 by then

[dusty arrow]

and tera normal for even more funny

[clear lichen]

Which doesn't even exist

And then Choice Band as well

[sleek hornet]

But yeah Diggersby is the BOMB

[dusty arrow]

and it also has a pretty good typing

[sleek hornet]

Ghost and Electric immunity

:3

[dusty arrow]

normal/psychic is really good (which doesnt really matter on account of deoxys-attack defenses)

[sleek hornet]

Oh wait nvm you meant the fused

Xd

[dusty arrow]

fun fact

max speed diggersby with choice scarf reaches 420 speed

[clear lichen]

I wouldn't say so

It lacks resistances

[dusty arrow]

it is

[sleek hornet]

Tf, YOOOO that’s OP

[rain locust]

not really you just get walled by shed

[clear lichen]

And resistances really matter when analysing a type defensively

However, for something like Deoxys, all that matters are immunities

On that front, Ghost is good

Overall though it isn't a good type

[dusty arrow]

i say that because normal and psychic remove most of their weaknesses (save for bug and dark)

[rain locust]

gonna be real with you this is the best mon in the meta of if national dex ag hands down

[dusty arrow]

plus i like my lil farigiraf

[clear lichen]

(I meant Ghost immunity but Ghost just gives 2 immunities as well so lol)

[rain locust]

(well not this mon specifically but wonder guard in general)

[sleek hornet]

doesn’t ghost have like 1 immunity, and a weakness to iself and Dark?

[clear lichen]

Magoatstiff

[sleek hornet]

Oh wait yeah nvm

[clear lichen]

Also imo the erdtree burial watchdog looks more like a cat

[rain locust]

yeah i know i just couldnt find a dog looking boss

[dusty arrow]

theres that one thing zacian is based off-

[clear lichen]

Red Wolf of Radagon fr

(Ignore the fact that it is red and this is not)

[rain locust]

i have this on the same team back when it didnt have a sprite so its sprite was just hooh

[clear lichen]

Bro isn't even Electric, Rock or Dragon type

[rain locust]

Red, Blue, and Yellow Wolf of Radagon

[rain locust]

My bad.

its a loose nickname

[dusty arrow]

what should i fuse with my favorite pokemon (armaldo)

[clear lichen]

I wonder how many Fromsoft references there are actually

[sleek hornet]

I’m gonna fuse archeops and Garchomp and then Archeops with Hydreigon. :3

[clear lichen]

Archeops doesn't exist yet

[sleek hornet]

Ik the sprites not there yet but I would like to imagine how cool it would look.

[clear lichen]

Slaking and Regigigas do though

Technically, Palafin's ability isn't a drawback

[dusty arrow]

thanks for an idea

[clear lichen]

Since it starts in the weaker form

[dusty arrow]

DO NOT NAME HIM

DO NOT

[bitter comet]

?

[rain locust]

best thing i can think of for ou (melop fixes everything)

[sleek hornet]

I might just do that hol up

[dusty arrow]

armaldo my beloved

[sleek hornet]

I love Armando and Cradily. T-T

Flower boi. :3

Cool ancient bug boi.

https://tenor.com/view/armaldo-pokémon-armaldo-berry-yellow-berry-wild-life-gif-26745831

He so cute. ☺️

[dusty arrow]

armaldo is best pokemon

i made ursaluna even more busted

[sleek hornet]

Holy mother of-

Deer Gosh that’s Busted!

[dusty arrow]

also wont get walled by any shedinja fusion

[sleek hornet]

Yeah it would be SO OP

[clear lichen]

Ghost/Normal

[dusty arrow]

except for that one

[clear lichen]

There are a lot of Shedinja type configurations

[sleek hornet]

yeah except that nvm

[clear lichen]

As one may expect

[dusty arrow]

by alot you mean
dark/ghost
normal/ghost
bug/steel

...
thats it essentially

[sleek hornet]

I wish the shell was ghost, so many cool fusions with the shell. T-T

[high haven]

Seviper/Kingler becomes that one boss from another crabs treasure with the guillotine

[clear lichen]

Technically that's basically it but some guy might just pull up to you with one that has more than 1 weakness specifically for the reason that just popped up

Tbf that's more problematic with Tera Shedinja in NatDex Ubers

Tera Electric Air Balloon is the ultimate noobtrap

Everyone runs HDB

[high haven]

Sorry but that connection came to my head and I really wanted to share it

[silent acorn]

AHHHH NOOOOOO

It's too late another fairy type revealed

[small tiger]

to be fair we might not see this project finished in our lifetime as it is now, let alone with 200-300 more pokes

[silent acorn]

Damnit now it's 4/6

[small tiger]

what

for the tourneys?

[sleek hornet]

I don’t think it can fit that much. Might need to make a sequel for that.

[clear lichen]

Anyways obviously in Gen 7 that isn't an option

[silent acorn]

[clear lichen]

I'm still somewhat surprised Shedinja can work when it has to worry about hazards

[sleek hornet]

Yeah one HP be like. 💀

[clear lichen]

I mean I guess it already did but it was very inconsistent

I know Magic Bounce can be distributed more now but so can Mold Breaker

And you can't exactly keep the Magic Bouncer on the field 24/7

[dusty arrow]

i wanted an excuse to make my favorite type

i love fire/electric

(assault vest variant)

[clear lichen]

It still suffers a lot of problems Shedinja has

Is what I'm trying to say

Though it does fix one of the bigger ones

[sleek hornet]

Look at my boi😭

[silent acorn]

@dusty arrow oh yes electric type

The best type

[clear lichen]

I can already imagine the mindgames

[sleek hornet]

Eelektross baby!

[dusty arrow]

bug is my favorite stand alone type but fire/electric is my favorite combo

[sleek hornet]

Fire electric with lavitato

[clear lichen]

"Is this Desolate Land, or is it Levitate?"

[silent acorn]

Ah eelektross Charizard

[dusty arrow]

well tbf desolate land comes out right as it gets swapped in

[clear lichen]

Well you won't know until it gets swapped in

[dusty arrow]

true

that is pretty funny now that i think about it

because both abilities could have different uses

[sleek hornet]

I love fire/electric it’s just the 4x ground weakness that bothers me T-T

[dusty arrow]

true

but think about it, fire/electric could be a really good physical sweeping type

no burn or para

[clear lichen]

Hahahahaha

Nice joke

[dusty arrow]

:(

[sleek hornet]

XD 😭

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-rotom-heat-electric-fire-gif-16404502250513412589

get in the oven

[clear lichen]

Nah, I'd Wash

[dusty arrow]

bro thinks he gojo

[clear lichen]

No (I'm not about to get offscreened)

[dusty arrow]

you bout to become legend/dragon

[clear lichen]

Nah, I'm not Gojo

[dusty arrow]

fair enough

[clear lichen]

Gamefreak should distribute Volt Tackle honestly

[dusty arrow]

YES

[silent acorn]

More like Jogo

[dusty arrow]

jogoat*

[silent acorn]

@dusty arrow hehehehhe HEHEHE HEHEHE HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[dusty arrow]

so remember my solar blade thing

[clear lichen]

4x weaknesses are so overrated ngl

[dusty arrow]

wait hold on why tf did i put flare blitz on sash

[clear lichen]

Idk

[dusty arrow]

fixed it

(i aint using fucking fire fang)

[clear lichen]

Simply run Loaded Dice+Scale Shot

Or something idk

[dusty arrow]

x-scissor or sacred sword on a sharpness mon

mmm

ill go sacred

[clear lichen]

Imo Sacred Sword is almost always the play

[dusty arrow]

yes behemoth blade is boosted by sharpness

[clear lichen]

Unless you somehow have coverage for every other Pokemon Fighting hits already

[silent acorn]

You guys be coping

[dusty arrow]

what

[dusty arrow]

oh yeah look at this ice type magikarp fusion

[clear lichen]

That's Kyurem-W/Kyurem btw

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-harder-cope-sir-cope-sir-american-psycho-gif-26276799

[dusty arrow]

no it isnt

its ice type magikarp/kyurem

[silent acorn]

Man those defenses be weak... Wait is it really ice type magikarp when the head is Dragon Type? :0

I FOUND OUT YOUR SECRET

[dusty arrow]

wdym

[silent acorn]

EXPOSED

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125/90/96 is weak??

[clear lichen]

Yeah idk what he's on about

Kyurem's bulk is established as good

[silent acorn]

ICE TYPE MAGIKARP ISN'T PURE IT ISNT MONO ICE

ITS A DRAGON TYPE

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what is this man on about

[clear lichen]

But yeah for those who are actually curious this is in fact Kyurem-White/Kyurem

Like all jokes aside

[silent acorn]

Head part determines first type of the fusion

[silent acorn]

That's nice to know for the Stats

But man that's one hell of a slip

My man has been gaslighting the whole server this entire time

His magikarp is a dragon

[dusty arrow]

no it isnt-

[silent acorn]

We been ripped off

PROOF RIGHT HERE

ITS CANON NOW

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FINE ILL SHOW YOU THE REAL IMAGE

i put the dragon type in so it would look better even though its really just pure ice

[sleek hornet]

????

[silent acorn]

What's with it knowing Dragon Pulse?

[dusty arrow]

thats the kyurem part

[silent acorn]

I am unhinged don't mind me

[sleek hornet]

XDDDDDDD

I be like that too :3

[silent acorn]

NOICE >:3

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the funny

[silent acorn]

I was actually laughing because technically speaking Fire/Electric is viable if Eelektross gets in

Because it knows levitate hence ground inmunity

It's a nice possibility

[sleek hornet]

Ah, yeah true, I literally said that earlier. 💀

How could I forget. XD

[clear lichen]

Electric Fire doesn't seem too bad ngl

[silent acorn]

It's just a pretty good thing 💀

[clear lichen]

3 bad weaknesses but a bunch of good resistances

[sleek hornet]

Yeah it’s actually pretty good

[silent acorn]

Since it can shoot back at a water type that's pretty neat

[clear lichen]

Definitely viable on the correct Pokemon

[dusty arrow]

4x steel resistance, fairy resistance, electric, grass..

it could be used as a decent fairy/steel counter

[clear lichen]

On a fusion though you probably can do better

[sleek hornet]

Absolutely!

[clear lichen]

Notably also cannot hit Dragon for neutral with STABs

[sleek hornet]

Especially with Eelektross.

[low dock]

The heck is going on here

[silent acorn]

I mean sure but most of the time if you wanted fire/Electric you'd be screwed because of the ground weakness unless you had the balloon

[dusty arrow]

discussing my eelektross fusion

[silent acorn]

Ice types that aren't what you might think

[clear lichen]

Unhinged stuff

[sleek hornet]

Yesh

:3

[dusty arrow]

this one

[clear lichen]

In a fusion format yeah

[low dock]

ok, so normal stuff. Carry on

[clear lichen]

But in regular Pokemon you'd definitely make do

[silent acorn]

True

[clear lichen]

It seems like a B tier type combo to me (or higher)

Bad weaknesses, but has a lot more resistances, a lot of them are good

[sleek hornet]

Mhmm hmm

[silent acorn]

I remember when I try going with Jynx/Arbok I was struggling

And I had a Jynx/Lycanroc and she wasn't doing any better

[clear lichen]

Not bad offensively but watch out for dragon types

[sleek hornet]

Indeed. Ooo boi

[silent acorn]

Anyway gotta rest, have fun folks

[sleek hornet]

Gn :3

[clear lichen]

I'd prefer Fire/Ground overall which is one of the fire type combos I think about the most because of how much wasted potential Camerupt has

[dusty arrow]

i have a cool idea for a kecleon fusion, specifically its ability

[clear lichen]

Imagine having a good type but then having the worst stat spread and terrible BST

Slow frail mixed attacker curse strikes again

[sleek hornet]

They did camerupt dirty T-T

He’s one of my favorite fire types

😭

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it would start off as normal/(insert type here)
but its ability would be like protean, but it only changes its first typing

[clear lichen]

Why

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the funny

[clear lichen]

Would this even be better?

It loses so much SpA and Speed

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adaptability though

[clear lichen]

Speed in particular is important

Adaptability somewhat makes up for the SpA loss

[dusty arrow]

plus it becomes normal/ghost

[clear lichen]

But losing Speed is always bad

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cries in being a mega garchomp fan

[sleek hornet]

Thankfully I’m not a fan of mega Garchomp, just the regular.

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GARCHOMP WILL GET DRAGON DANCE ONE DAY

AND MEGA CHOMP WILL BE A MENACE IN NAT DEX

[sleek hornet]

Indeed. 😭

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<--- coping

[sleek hornet]

JUSTICE TO THE CHOMP copes and seethes

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MR KRAAABS IVE GOT AN IDEAAAA

[sleek hornet]

Ah yes!

[dusty arrow]

and then tera ghost it to make up for no adaptability

[sleek hornet]

Hmmmm, that’s actually pretty good. 🤔

[dusty arrow]

fairly bulky combined with dark/ghost

i could make a bulky assault vest or leftovers variant too-

[honest tartan]

i had that same idea 6 months ago except its speed is so low compared to other threats in the meta that scarf and max speed + nature doenst save it so you either use lorb or band...

[dusty arrow]

im not even using the teams im just making up silly shit

[sleek hornet]

‘Twas a joke

:3

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dog

[sleek hornet]

Doggo :3

I love doggo

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it was originally scizor instead of ndm but then i realized "wait it would be even funnier if this dog had the power of a god"

regigigas/slaking is the devil lol

(it has 666 bst)

[sleek hornet]

Oh yeah it has XD 💀

I wonder who made the…forbidden (meant as a joke) fusion. 🤔

Oooo, I was thinking Dogo for head and Hydreigon for body and see what happens XD

[sleek hornet]

😮

Noice

[dusty arrow]

what have i done

[sleek hornet]

Holy-

Monstrosity

🤯

Dear gosh that can blow a casket!

Wait! I’m gonna fuse it with hydrei rq.

[rain locust]

scrollin through the sets like "this gets beat by dark/ghost shed, this gets beat by bug/steel shed, this gets beat by normal/ghost shed"

[dusty arrow]

you get beat by regular shedinja

this isnt possible but its funny

[hexed agate]

I will remind you guys that this is for possible additions

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https://tenor.com/view/unfortunate-omori-basil-omori-basil-sad-gif-22343061

[hexed agate]

Might I suggest trying the Showdown channels?

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live me reaction

anwyaty

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oh ok

[sleek hornet]

Yeah Ik my apologies

[hexed agate]

No worries

[sleek hornet]

Buuuuuuuut can we do the fusions with ifs

I was doing that earlier with Archeops.

And slurpuff

[hexed agate]

As long as the fusions are pertinent to the channel, knock yourselves out

[sleek hornet]

Okeiiiii ty! :3

[dusty arrow]

this means ice type magikarp is completely valid to fuse mons with

this is so epic

[sleek hornet]

XD

[rain locust]

ill fight you for the rights to add REAL mons (legendaries/starters/mythicals)

[sleek hornet]

Wait. I’ve been meaning to test this: Florges and Hydreigon. :3

[hexed agate]

Please do (I have no power to add them )

[rain locust]

https://tenor.com/view/jet-bean-killer-bean-ragdoll-ragdoll-fall-gif-23762382

[trail hull]

Cutifly is a nice pick

[wide ridge]

oooh my one friend would be sooo happy if cutiefly makes it!

[static oyster]

Is there a winner yet for the new added Pokemon?

[molten latch]

https://tenor.com/view/lurantis-gif-24017255

Idk

Also I need to spread some Lurantis love.

[twin phoenix]

I'm currently spriting my own Lurantis~

Hope people will like it.

[molten latch]

Very noice

[bitter comet]

Man, all the minior sprites I’ve seen are really selling me on the mon

[humble lance]

good

[high haven]

Here's my list now
Slurpuff
Lurantis
Carbink
Ribombee
Pelipper
That's what it is right now