pif-hoenn-discussion

[hot hamlet]

Though Ik one person who will crucify you over Pachirisu's placement

[eager jungle]

did you kept the template?

[silent acorn]

Hang on where is my shrimp and lance bug

[obsidian berry]

No but I can make one really quick

[stuck bane]

It’s in pins, but I think it’s missing clamperl and Comfey

Because there weren’t in the first vote

[obsidian berry]

Can someone send images to put on this for those 2

[stuck bane]

Uhhh I can try lemme find where to vote again

[silent acorn]

Could be higher honestly

Lemme show what I believe in

[eager jungle]

I'll do one tomorrow because it's a pain on phone

[silent acorn]

GOD

[rain locust]

carbink would never be f

[silent acorn]

The possibilities of these two

[clear lichen]

I feel like Gigalith's mountain blasting laser crystal things could probably make for good head fusions

[silent acorn]

Don't matter for the voting fight

[obsidian berry]

Fair enough

[silent acorn]

It has to fight on its own

[silent acorn]

Hmmmm alrighty

[rain locust]

who got the tier maker imma make my own

[silent acorn]

Gimme a sec

[eager jungle]

I love the design but it's kinda just a clawtizer in the armor of lance bug

[clear lichen]

And Gigalith body fusions could probably also look cool, like imagine Metagross except objectively cooler (I am biased towards Gigalith)

[obsidian berry]

Should I keep the not voteable tier

[clear lichen]

(Like very biased)

(Very very biased)

[silent acorn]

You have not see the power of it

[muted ruin]

https://tiermaker.com/create/infinite-fusion-demands-16091507

[hot hamlet]

True but now I'm adding Lance/Cannon to my list of weapons for my book lol

[eager jungle]

Nah, I love design of both but it's kinda just an armored clawtizer x)

[hot hamlet]

First line of mons repeat

[stuck bane]

You might need to edit Clamperl line into one image, but o just got these from the vote link

[obsidian berry]

Ty :3

Ok give me like 5 minutes

[clear lichen]

If I were to make a tierlist I'd probably just include the legendaries and UBs anyways

[muted ruin]

yeah i know is the only one I found jajaja

[clear lichen]

Since its a demands tierlist

Not a "hey this is what I'm voting" tierlist

[silent acorn]

YOU DEMAND POTENTIAL I'LL GIVE YOU POTENTIAL

Think Bisharp but more Knightly

[hot hamlet]

More Gladiatorily more like it

[silent acorn]

TyrantLance

[muted ruin]

the 1 slot is because i did this for the other vote jajaja

[rain locust]

im gonna get shit on for this but heres my tier list

[high haven]

...how dare you.

[rain locust]

95% of these decisions were made based on comp viability

[stuck bane]

I’m shocked a competitive player put spore immune web setter in F

[rain locust]

just use espeon galv for that

spore is banned btw

[stuck bane]

Oh then that’s fair

That’s probably the biggest crime besides flying type with motor drive

[rain locust]

ppl use no guard hypnosis stuff instead but its just not great

[stuck bane]

Wait is water bubble bad why is araquanid F?

[rain locust]

water bubble would instantly be banned

[stuck bane]

Fair

[rain locust]

the moment araquanid gets actual physical offense is the moment it becomes extremely broken

not as egregious as in nd because no urshifu to abuse surging strikes but still ridiculous

[obsidian berry]

it wont let me save the blank one as a template whyyy

[stuck bane]

Thank you for your attempt

[high haven]

I don't care about how competitively viable a Mon is for a fan game, I care about the visual design.

[hollow creek]

Oh hey it’s the carbink guy

[rain locust]

im the carbink guy

[hollow creek]

If carbink wins I’ll make nice fusions of it

[rain locust]

yippee

[stuck bane]

As much as you try to deny it, IF has a showdown side, competitive should have a voice

Also the visual design argument falls apart when you realize sprites are determined by the creativity of the spriter, not the Mon

[hollow creek]

Thanks for not picking meinshau

[obsidian berry]

Wait i got it working you just need to manually add clamperl and comfey

give me a sec to format a pinnable meaage

[high haven]

You're right. But I'm sharing how I feel

And also there are more than just spriters making designs for these mons

Just saying

[feral bear]

Like concept artists?

[high haven]

Exactly

[civic harness]

Crabomimable is not in Tier F 🎉

[rain locust]

it has the slightest niche of ice hammer iron fist on tr teams

[obsidian berry]

Blank Tierlist https://tiermaker.com/list/video-games/pokemon-infinite-fusion-new-pokemon-16034815/4272606
clamperl + comfey images

[feral bear]

I love clamperl so much

[zealous lichen]

I went for my favorites honestly

[rain locust]

the world if i could add ZYGARDE or MAGEARNA

or STAKATAKA

[rain locust]

its the other way around

shorten then link

[obsidian berry]

blocked by automod though

[rain locust]

oh

wacj

[outer matrix]

I forgot how many ads are on the tier list maker website

[obsidian berry]

Sawsbuck in "NO", opinion invalid /j

[eager jungle]

Yeah, we blocked it because it's used by scammers

[rain locust]

surely ppl want alomomola doublade in their if ou meta

[civic harness]

Crabominable is not in the end of the list 🎉

[hollow creek]

Really hoping the next tourney winner picks gastrodon

[obsidian berry]

im not the one to decide but methinks this should be pinned

[civic harness]

Tier A

[eager jungle]

?

[rain locust]

tier a weezing

[civic harness]

Look youre tier A

[high haven]

Nice, I'm cool with B tier

[eager jungle]

Yes and?

[hot hamlet]

B tier is what I voted 2 on in the actual vote. A and S were my 3's

[civic harness]

You know

[fathom ridge]

Yesss vikavolt in S as it should be

[eager jungle]

I don't read minds so please give more words

[rain locust]

theyre happy you voted crab a

[hollow creek]

Turtonator in S as he belongs

[high haven]

I'm cool with that. That's the same way I operate

[civic harness]

Crab

[obsidian berry]

Now that I know comfey and clamperl aren't there I would but them in C and B tier respectively

[eager jungle]

Yes, and?

[civic harness]

Im happy to see more acceptance for Crabominable

[high haven]

Nice

[hollow creek]

Comfey is 3, clamperl line in 2 mainly for huntail

[spice sage]

There

[civic harness]

FROG IS WATCHING

[eager jungle]

I've forgot to pin so thx x)

[spice sage]

Always am

[eager jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/hypnotoad-futurama-gif-20673964

[fathom ridge]

Ohhh I was just going to ask for the tierlist, thank frogman

[rain locust]

has anyone made golisopod fusion sprites

[hot hamlet]

Lots have

[rain locust]

im interested

[obsidian berry]

Elemental monkey haters will get autism exploded in my head

They would make great head mons

And Eeveelution-like bodies

[hot hamlet]

I think Simisage at least would be a good bodymon

Rocker aesthetic

[eager jungle]

I have

[barren lion]

I don't dislike the monkeys, but there are many others I would see included over them personally

[eager jungle]

#1274020544638877830

[outer matrix]

I think that there should be a version of the tierlist that doesn't include the starters in it since they are confirmed to appear in a future update

[rain locust]

crazy

[eager jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274020544638877830/1274109006633500774/trailer.gif

[high haven]

Oooh gif

[barren lion]

eelektross body-fusions have epic potential
then again, snake-themed pokémon are always hype

[proud lion]

All my entries

[high haven]

Can confirm

[hot hamlet]

Lamprey but same idea

[rain locust]

i like the magikarp

[hot hamlet]

Yummy crab

Also Plague doctor bunny

[proud lion]

Aromatisse Representation as to show that not all of these fusions are bad

Same with Simipour

[barren lion]

is that simipour and bayleaf? or meganium? Either way, kinda cool and cute AF

[proud lion]

Meganium

[steel meadow]

I know im late with the tierlist but just wanted to do one. S is 3 points, A 2 points, B 1 point, C adds something to the game for me but not worth a point, D completely unintrests me.

[high haven]

Here's some of the designs I did this year. Metang, Eelektross, Mawile, Wobbuffet & Yamask in that order

[steel meadow]

That yamask goes so hard.

[barren lion]

Seviper has some epic potential for fusions.

[terse fable]

Mawile one is amazing, very cool horror esque fusion, reminds me of Junj Ito almost

[outer matrix]

my tierlist I guess

[hot hamlet]

Foodmons at top. I approve

[steel meadow]

wait toxicroak wasnt in my tierlist thingy

id put that guy in S too

[stuck bane]

Was it confirmed starters would be coming at a later date? The message in pins says they might be added later

[outer matrix]

it might be me misremembering as well

[hot hamlet]

Nope. Just they're not in this roound

[steel meadow]

I think its a case of "eventuaaaaally they'll be added but who knows when"

[astral oyster]

Golisopod is one of my favorite mons but emergency exit is an ability

[next flare]

Were the Mawile and Wynaut made with a base pose that just has a really small head?

[astral oyster]

Ruined my UM play through

[barren lion]

luckily that can be removed with fusions.
Also why Slaking is beast in this game

[steel meadow]

yeah emergency exit is a sad ability, especially on a slow speed pokemon

[astral oyster]

This why I’m super glad it’s part of the vote

My favorite mon can be useful

[steel meadow]

although first impression helps alot

[astral oyster]

True

[stuck bane]

Golisopod might be able to win the special vote if it makes it on, defensive water type with spikes for competitive players, and spritework/getting 2nd place in the spriter vote proves spriters want it too. Very good chance of making it in

[high haven]

Wobbuffet, and that's how it turned.

[stuck bane]

But for now, nothing is competing with Slurpuff in the special vote

[steel meadow]

only reason i didnt vote golisopod that high is because i cant for the life of me sprite it myself

[barren lion]

also am wondering, is it only 1 pokémon from the entire selection that makes it in the game? or several?

[steel meadow]

its like the anorith line

[astral oyster]

It’s actually very good for fusion potential

[next flare]

1 from each vote
The group counts as 1 if they are compiled together in the vote

[high haven]

Right now for me it's
Slurpuff
Carbink
Pelipper
In that order

[steel meadow]

based carbink enjoyer

[rain locust]

based carbink enjoyer

[barren lion]

admittingly I have a soft spot for Pelipper. Helping me greatly during a water-mono type run once.

[stuck bane]

1 line per vote

So there’s a main vote, where we all fill out the form with 0-3 and the winner of that gets in

Then a special vote, there’s 13 events that people in the discord can participate in. Each winner is added to this special vote. They each choose a Mon, and vote amongst themselves. The winner of that vote makes it in as the second line added to the game

[rain locust]

I Saw What You Deleted

[stuck bane]

I only saw a glimpse, but considering the Pokémon I saw I think there’s a reason he deleted it

[steel meadow]

yes we love fennekin

[obsidian berry]

people can love a humanoid mon without thinking that 😭

[stuck bane]

You must be new, welcome to the Pokémon fandom

[clear lichen]

Don't need to be so negative I'm sure you're just overreacting

Surely

[stuck bane]

But in all seriousness delphox isn’t bad, mystical fire and magician fusions, it has reason to be added

[rain locust]

btw couragestar if i win another tour ill add mienshao next probably

[clear lichen]

(I didn't see the image)

[barren lion]

so as I understand it, there are two pokémon-lines that are gonna be added to the game by the end?

[stuck bane]

Yes

[obsidian berry]

yeah

(unless its volbeat/illumise or orangoru/passimian)

[barren lion]

god I hope someone doesn't add volbeat/illumise to the second vote...

[stuck bane]

Honestly, my unova bias aside, if you win another your best odds are probably Golisopod, spriters love that one and you’ve rated it pretty high on your lists as well

[rain locust]

hmmmm

could

[next flare]

That’s more of thing I would expect the staff to do
A troll addition like Bruxish

But much, much worse

[stuck bane]

Good news is it’s a vote, not a raffle, so it’s far less likely for troll picks to win unless all 13 winners decide “yes, let’s do a little trolling”

[barren lion]

yeah, still would be a waste of a good slot in a vote to be wasted on a troll-pick

[obsidian berry]

The only redeeming quality is tail glow imo

[high haven]

I would honestly hate that

[drowsy moss]

if the winners are the ones voting, wouldn't they just vote for the one they picked?

[gray vine]

bruxish is still good for fusions tho so eh

[stuck bane]

That’s partially a strategy as well, if let’s say anaconja won every single tournament from here on out, he could fill out his picks with hated ones like monkeys, wurmple, burmy to guarantee Golisopod and Carbink get less competition

[next flare]

Maybe the second vote opens up to everyone with those as the only options

[stuck bane]

No, winners can’t vote for their own, that’s the only caveat, so it’s winners picking everyone else’s and the one who got the most of everyone else’s votes making it in

[drowsy moss]

ok that makes more sense lol

[fathom ridge]

tierlist

[high haven]

That's what I was thinking

[stuck bane]

It doesn’t, frog has confirmed it’s a vote between winners only

[obsidian berry]

Crustle in S, opinion valid 👍

[stuck bane]

It’s similar to the vote that cresselia won where a handful of staff did the same voting process and decided on cresselia

[high haven]

Solid, neat is a good tier

[hidden relic]

Movie Night is about to begin, hop in if you were interested in watching Hoopa and the Clash of Ages

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1148785825178460241

[analog stag]

I’m hoping for the 13 way tie lol

Every coordinates to vote for each others

[eager jungle]

Well...

[stuck bane]

By that point, frog probably hand picks one from the list

It’s also unlikely that everyone would coordinate like that considering competitive vs spriter (idk if they could possibly be more different) and people want their Mon in so human selfishness kicks in

[eager jungle]

In #announcements

[analog stag]

Ok but the last point shouldn’t really matter cause you can’t vote for yourself

[stuck bane]

Yeah but if everyone is agreeing “vote for all options a 3” it just takes one person to attempt to sabotage that and guarantee their pick makes it in

[rain locust]

alo hate is craaazy youre telling me you dont want this

[stuck bane]

IKR??? That’s what I’m sayin!

[high haven]

Ooh, I got it! The winners talk it out. They're put into a seperate room/server/whatever and between them they decide what Mon should get added.

Just an idea

[stuck bane]

Good idea, but there’s this neat highly advanced tech humans invented called “lying”

[terse fable]

I don't want this

😂

[barren lion]

I still hold firm that Alomomola and Luvdisc should have been in the same evolution line. Both were done dirty by not doing this.

[high haven]

What's there to lie about?

[stuck bane]

Gen 5 was a soft reboot, and their stats are nothing alike, speedy luvdisc evolving into tanky Alomomola just doesn’t make sense, as similar as they are

[eager jungle]

A fish (gun) can evolve into an octopus (tank) so....

[stuck bane]

My apologies, I misunderstood you, I thought you were gonna put them in a room before they voted, yeah that could work

[stuck bane]

Yeah but don’t they still have similar stats? Lemme check

[barren lion]

not the first time speedy has evolved into tanky, but I see your point

[stuck bane]

It loses speed but still keeps its attacking stats, id argue that’s not as bad as a supposed speed turning into only massive HP

[analog stag]

Many Pokémon lose their speed when they evolve

[stuck bane]

Yeah but in most cases speed isn’t the ONLY thing that Mon has, and it isn’t replaced by a completely different playstyle after evolving

Like, Octillery loses speed, but it still has better attacking stats like remoraid did

Besides, no point in really arguing it, gamefreak made their choice, and frog almost certainly won’t cave into the demands of making luvdisc evolve into alo

[clear lichen]

Idk, slow offence is rather difference to fast offence

[hollow creek]

I think it looks nice

[clear lichen]

And Luvdisk is neither its kinda just fast shitmon

[hollow creek]

You can count on me to make Alo sprites

[clear lichen]

I doubt they'd make Luvdisk evolve into Alomomola

But just saying

Also I do think Alo has better offences than Luvdisk

[stuck bane]

In competitive, but as we’ve stated competitive isn’t the only dictator of everything ever. And luvdisc has good speed comparable to its other stats, not good speed in general

[clear lichen]

God damn I can't stop typing it as Luvdisc

I dont even know if its spelt luvdisk or luvdisc

[stuck bane]

Only with a c

[clear lichen]

I'm pretty sure disc is spelled differently in multiple languages

[hollow creek]

a lot of competitive mons just look cool

[clear lichen]

It's so confusing

By multiple languages I mean multiple English languages

Why do we have multiple Englishes anyways

[stuck bane]

Because communication was difficult in the old days and everyone assumed their way was the correct one

[clear lichen]

I don't feel like worrying whether Armour is spelt Armor or Armour in whatever game I'm playing

Whatever

[barren lion]

the way I understand it is, 'armor' is the american way of spelling it, 'armour' is the british way.
Same with a lot of other words that has 'o' or 'ou' as options

[stuck bane]

This too

[clear lichen]

Anyways, Alo is 75/40 while Luvdisc is 30/40

I wasn't kidding when I called it a fast shitmon

[stuck bane]

A lot of words have been simplified, some to the point of seeming ironic

[barren lion]

America rebelled and said 'we will live without u' and removed u from a lot of words lol

[clear lichen]

Luvdisc also has higher defences than offences

So Luvdisc evolving into Alo would've made sense, but it is what it is

[weak trellis]

incidentally I think most people sitill use alo's 40 special attack anyway because using 30% accurate will-o-wisp generally outclasses any damage the 75's gonna be doing

at least prior to gen 7 (?) anyway

[silent acorn]

Alomo is so good as a standalone It gave luvu the middle finger and said : "NO"

[weak trellis]

convergent evolution

[silent acorn]

"I don't need your lamo ass on my history"

[weak trellis]

tbh

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nooo-nope-eat-fingerwag-gif-12358308896192153975

[weak trellis]

if I did want something in alomola's asthetic ballpark I'd actually vote aromatisse but that's just me

[silent acorn]

People are like luvdisc they just can't accept rejection

[weak trellis]

mostly because it's not a water type rofl

actually I'm home RN I may as well make my tier list

[stuck bane]

Ironically, it’s fins do kinda look like hands…

[silent acorn]

Hand vs no hands

Just shows Alomo evolved smart whilst Luvdisc swims with farts

[analog stag]

Eviolite Luvdisc

[weak trellis]

back, whooo boy that's a tall one

real talk I'm bascially fine with anything that isn't in red or maybe orange being added rofl (orange is mostly that we have enough water, normal psychic, rock, flying, and to an extent grass types that don't do anything else notable)

[clear lichen]

Melmetal is Gen 7

Not Gen 8

[weak trellis]

I refuse

can't go into S/M/US/UM, not gen 7

[clear lichen]

Can go into LGPE

[weak trellis]

(see also: me counting hisuian mons as gen 9)

[clear lichen]

Gen 7

[weak trellis]

I don't count LGPE as a gen 7 game if that makes sense (I see it as the start of gen 8) but I'd rather not get into that debate

[clear lichen]

L:A being a main line game simplifies things even further

Hisuian mons are Gen 8

Even if they can't be used against other players there

Pokemon GO being a spinoff makes the Melmetal debate actually exist

[weak trellis]

but yea to elaborate on some things

[clear lichen]

Also Kommo-O is up for voting even if people want to vote a 0 for it for being the 12th non legendary Dragon line because we almost have the max number of dragons, which I still find a dumb argument

Or would it be the 11th?

[weak trellis]

castform gets undermined a bit by spriters having to account for all forms and not having a sandstorm form
Vanilluxe and Abomasnow are basically the same reason I'm not sure why I didn't put them both there as hail setters
Endgame crustle is an absolute hellspawn but at least I'll only have to fight them in randos?
I'm not sure how addable the ultra beases are but I ranked them as I normally would

[clear lichen]

Idk I forgot

[weak trellis]

I put kommo-o there because I figured it'd get in at some point rofl

also the only difference between silvally (worse arceus) and purugly (worse but faster snorlax)'s placements is that I actually like the latter rofl

[clear lichen]

I guess you don't want to fight Gigalith because its 2 non HAs are Sand Stream and Sturdy?

[weak trellis]

...I forgot it even got sand stream ROFL

[clear lichen]

It didn't in Gen 5

And it's probably the worst of the Sand Stream mons in battle

Buuuutttt I am biased towards it

So it's my favourite of the 3 anyways

[weak trellis]

my bias there is mostly against tyranitar for being a filthy 600 BST cheater with an extra 1.5x special defense boost

so if either hippo or lith get in I'd appreciate

[clear lichen]

Fun fact: My opinions of the Sand Stream mon is completely opposite of how good they are in battle

With Gigalith as my favourite of the 3 and Ttar as my least favourite of the 3

[weak trellis]

I mean gigalith feels servicable for what it's worth

[clear lichen]

They're all solid Pokemon though

[weak trellis]

I like hippo the most since it feel like it was designed with sand stream in mind but giga's also decent

[clear lichen]

In terms of how much I like them but I cannot stress enough that Gigalith is trash in Competitive

[weak trellis]

also I'm gonna move eelek since I just remembered that rotom heads exist rofl

[clear lichen]

Hippowdon is definitely designed with Sand Stream in mind its official art is it completely surrounded by sand

[analog stag]

I hope someone adds Minior to the 2nd vote

[weak trellis]

(just down to "not like but good fusions")

[clear lichen]

And it also constantly talks about how it starts sandstorms

It also is the only Sand Stream mon to start with Sand Stream

[analog stag]

Minior has a lot of potential with all the colors

[clear lichen]

Ttar got it in Gen 3 with the introduction of abilities

[weak trellis]

yea my absolute top pick is crabrawler/crabdominable but I can support anything in top

[clear lichen]

Gigalith got it in Gen 6 iirc

[idle owl]

when cinderace tho?

[clear lichen]

After adding every remaining Pokemon

[weak trellis]

even if vikavolt gets smacked a bit by how (understandably) late eviolite is for charjabug

[clear lichen]

AKA probably like 10 years minimum lmfao

[weak trellis]

gen 8 isms but I feel like you can probably get a cinderace evo by having lopunny alt with something

[grave jolt]

good afternoon all

[clear lichen]

Good morning

[weak trellis]

also evenin'

[clear lichen]

It is 7 am for me in 1 minute

[weak trellis]

actually I'm tempted to move volbeat down to "please don't" for one simple reason:

I forget if frog's tying lunge on the one island tutor to volbeat ROFL

[grave jolt]

I just heard about Pachirisu making another showing at worlds this year

[weak trellis]

since I legit what else gets it in vanilla

[clear lichen]

Illumise has Tail Glow tied to it I think

[weak trellis]

also yea I did see that. pachirisu usually means that electric types are popping off hard

[clear lichen]

Miraidon is simply too oppressive probably

[weak trellis]

(I think Miraidon and Iron Hands this time)

[clear lichen]

Apparently VGC players thought Miraidon would be dogshit

Which is hilarious to someone who plays Singles

Because it's arguably the most broken Pokemon not named Calyrex Shadow Rider

[high haven]

Based, Seviper is high up there

[analog stag]

Oh yeah the tapus would be good for fusions

But that’s 4 legendaries Frog has to figure out what to do with

[clear lichen]

Tapus would look cool and hand over their surge abilities

Idk why Buluboom is included there and not Tapu Rilla though

[weak trellis]

tapus also add four fairies and the ability to give koko and bulu some play rough so good on them

[grave jolt]

New bosses for the Sevii Islands

[weak trellis]

WAIT HANG ON

[analog stag]

Oh that’s a good idea

[weak trellis]

moved them up to unique because of the surge abilities

[clear lichen]

I will not stop joking about Tapu Bulu being inconceivably worse than Rillaboom you can't make me

[weak trellis]

(swapped with heatran since you can make steel + flash fire anyway via other fusions)

I mean a vast majority of that is "one gets grassy glide, one does not."

[clear lichen]

Pretty much, and it very clearly matters a lot

[analog stag]

When I was a kid I considered Darkrai, Cresselia and Heatran a trio

[clear lichen]

What is Heatran doing there

Bro thinks he's part of the team

My favourite phase of the moon is volcano

[viscid fossil]

What is Heatran doing anywhere

[clear lichen]

In volcanos? Sleeping, probably

Anywhere else? He probably wants food

[snow scroll]

heatran

more like

[clear lichen]

Give him some he won't bite

[snow scroll]

"weighs less than a sedan"

why is it so LIGHT

[grave jolt]

hetrans?! ?

[clear lichen]

Better than Archaludon probably

[snow scroll]

😳

[viscid fossil]

I want Heatran because bug/steel flash fire shedinja would be the ultimate mind game
No other reason

[analog stag]

Bro is thinking in 4D chess

[clear lichen]

Archaludon is less dense than water and it isn't even close

60 KG :/

[viscid fossil]

It would need a type swap tho

[grave jolt]

honestly, at that point it's a coin flip. Did your opponent choose wonder guard, making it immune to everything but fire or flashfire making it immune to fire? One wrong slip might lose you the game!

[snow scroll]

fun fact: dialga weighs less than a toyota corolla

if it weren't for their magic

half of all pokemon would probably die to vehicular manslaughter

[snow scroll]

😭

that is fiendish

[clear lichen]

"If Pokemon weren't Pokemon they'd die to a car"

[snow scroll]

correct and proven

[clear lichen]

I feel like that's a bit obvious

You wouldn't even need to kill them

Take the Treasures of Ruin

[snow scroll]

watch as my prius turns raichu into roadkill

[clear lichen]

They're literally just ancient artifacts now

They aren't even living anymore

[snow scroll]

the treasures of ruin are

funny tbh

you'd think they would be ghost types or smth

[clear lichen]

Treasures are the best legendary group

You cannot change my mind

[snow scroll]

it's true though

I love the way they're designed

ESPECIALLY THE FISH

[clear lichen]

Peak design, peak in competitive (except Wo-Chien :() and work extremely well as a group conceptually

And peak backstory

Wo-Chien is unfortunately Grass/Dark

And thus doomed to fail

[snow scroll]

😔

[civic harness]

Thank you so much

[grave jolt]

Certainly not the worst. (those are the ultra beasts)

[glass patio]

i see minior on top, i approve

[proud lion]

We need monki supremacy

[fathom ridge]

I respect you did monkey propaganda toad

[proud lion]

Barely saw any entries for them so I did one

[outer matrix]

I know that simipour shows the "see no evil" part in it's design with the eyes, but what about simisage & semisear with the "speak or hear no evil"?

[rain locust]

ones deaf ones mute

you just cant see it

[outer matrix]

All 3 have gluttony as their main abilities?

didn't expect them to have it

[analog stag]

Monkey propaganda is based

[civic harness]

Macaco

[leaden lintel]

CHAT

w or l?

[civic harness]

#playthrough-talk

[outer matrix]

The 3 monkeys also have the regular starter Pokémon abilities as their hiddens

[civic harness]

Want to see crab propaganda?

[civic harness]

Voting starters without voting starters

[outer matrix]

Definitely seems like it tbh

[analog stag]

The derpy ice crab yes

[novel bough]

the guy with torkoal has made top 4

[civic harness]

[analog stag]

LMAO

[fathom ridge]

Now this is top tier propaganda, the text font is absolutely perfect

[civic harness]

Want to see the second one?

[clear lichen]

Hard disagree, not only are they not legendaries but they are also peak

Also I wasn't looking at Discord so that's why I didn't answer earlier

[grave jolt]

While they weren't technically legends in their home generation, they are considered legendaries in current gen.

[clear lichen]

I'm pretty sure they're listed as "special Pokemon" in Home

They went from being ambiguous to being definitely not legendaries

[grave jolt]

They are filtered by the legendary filter.

[clear lichen]

The closest Pokemon to them are the Paradoxes, which are also not legendaries unless you include Koraidon and Miraidon

[clear lichen]

In which game, I can fact check that

I have both the 2 games they are in, as well as HOME

[clear lichen]

Yeah so it's under special Pokemon

Seems simple enough to me

If they were Legendaries, they wouldn't have to specify "other special Pokemon"

They may be as strong as some of the weaker legendaries in terms of BST

But mechanically, they are not legendaries

[grave jolt]

It really seems they're their own category, and I still hate them regardless.

https://fxtwitter.com/SciresM/status/799322666079551488

[quaint mauve]

That feels like a whole lot of pedantry quite bluntly.

[clear lichen]

And also that isn't a rebuttal to the statement that they are peak

I will die on this hill

Most people randomly swapped sides a while after the UBs released and I am not one of them nor will I swap to the other side

[grave jolt]

Ultra Beasts and their consequences have been a disaster for pokemon, and I will die on that hill.

[clear lichen]

Tf you mean "their consequences"

[snow scroll]

I thought UBs were good

[clear lichen]

In what way did they even cause a disaster directly

[snow scroll]

[clear lichen]

I mean apart from canonically

[grave jolt]

It's a reference to a book

[clear lichen]

Like 2 of the UBs were broken in Singles and I don't think any of them were broken in Doubles

They don't stand out as a broken group competitively and I don't see how else they'd be a disaster

[quaint mauve]

We're pokemon players, do you expect us to read?

[clear lichen]

I actually do read :/

Just clearly haven't read whatever book she's referring to

There's a lot more than 1 book

I also read not books

Like yknow texts on discord

[quaint mauve]

headdesk
I realize sarcasm is hard to convey over text but i thought that was a fairly well known meme at this point.

[clear lichen]

Yeah but most people say it unsarcastically

Because a good portion of people really just don't read about what they're talking about

Obviously not literally everyone but still

It is a meme but it's also not entirely untrue, is what I'm saying

But yeah TLDR Ultra Beasts are cool, I guess this is opinion based but they have objectively done nothing to hurt the franchise in any way

Which you can't really say about some other additions

cough cough Baby Pokemon cough cough Mega Evolutions of terrible Pokemon that should've gotten an evolution

[quaint mauve]

If we're considering mainline games the biggest contender for long term damage is the mega evolution system, because now those pokemon cant get a base form buff without the mega being suspect.

[hollow creek]

Gen 5 had done awful mythicals/legendaries

[grave jolt]

I lump necrozma into the UB category, and that power creep is evident everywhere

[clear lichen]

Necrozma forms are typically more similar to Landorus-Therian

By Necrozma forms I mean NDM

Because Ultra Necrozma got thanos snapped

And NDW is outclassed

[quaint mauve]

Necrozma is literally just 'What would max stats look like', i don't really consider it an actual, valid pokemon.

[clear lichen]

NDM keeps the tiers it is in from falling apart

[grave jolt]

Honestly, Gen 5 and Gen 7 "special pokemon" are the very few I actively dislike.

[clear lichen]

Also do people even use Necrozma in VGC

[quaint mauve]

it doesn't help it literally looks like a lost gundam.

[clear lichen]

Necrozma is a top tier Pokemon in terms of design IMO

Though once again that's opinion and there's 0 point arguing over it

[grave jolt]

Disagree

[clear lichen]

But it hasn't really done anything to harm Competitive either and is honestly doing the opposite if you ask me

[grave jolt]

People like the ultra beasts design because of the reason I dislike them.

[glossy jewel]

You should fight to the death over pokemon opinions

[clear lichen]

The duality of mankind

[glossy jewel]

they are the most important thing in the history of human kind

if you dislike the pokemon I like

I hate you with my entire being

[clear lichen]

Why is it usually called mankind anyways

[grave jolt]

UBs don't even look like pokemon

[glossy jewel]

My first thought was "history of man"

but decided against it

[clear lichen]

It feels a bit discriminatory in both ways somehow

[quaint mauve]

Celesteela is just space age bronzong.

[viscid fossil]

Isn't that kinda the point

[clear lichen]

Like whatever shit humans do males get blamed and whatever good humans do males get praised it's stupid

But I'm going off a tangent here

[glossy jewel]

best not to discuss such topics here

[clear lichen]

Yeah probably

Back to Pokemon

I really despise some of the babies for just doing nothing except making its evolutions worse

[glossy jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-dancing-grooving-gif-18057803

[quaint mauve]

Mankind is just Humankind but no one wants the extra syllable. Its not that deep.
That being said, Buzzwole looks like something we would have made for a Machoke/Machamp fusion if any pokemon had a probuscus.

[clear lichen]

Who decided Wigglytuff didn't need an evolution

But that its prevo needed a prevo

????????

????????????????????

[glossy jewel]

someone at gamefreak probably

[glass patio]

…huh

[clear lichen]

They're about as bad as Megas in my eyes

Or well megas of Pokemon that needed an evolution instead

[grave jolt]

Blacephalon is described to slither

[quaint mauve]

Boom Clown is a fun seeking landmine.

[glossy jewel]

this is official pokemon art

I had imagined all ultra beasts to be extremely aggressive

[clear lichen]

Yes and it's amazing

[grave jolt]

Yes, I grabbed it off bulbapedia

[civic harness]

Hello Milian

[glossy jewel]

hllo

[clear lichen]

Blacephalon is probably extremely dangerous on accident

That's what I imagine

[glass patio]

so if this is true then ok so if you don’t like minior you are simply wrong 👍

[grave jolt]

the watermark is still on the image lmao

[rain locust]

necrozma is fine in dex ou maybe even kinda mediocre

[clear lichen]

Like Blacephalon doesn't really mean any harm

[rain locust]

necrozmium goes hard in theory but in practice psychic is quite bad as a type

[clear lichen]

Base Necrozma is terrible in OU

Ultra Necrozma and NDM are good

[rain locust]

also forces you to run photon which is real bad if ur using it as head

[quaint mauve]

I'll be proudly wrong then, Minior is a Luma that escaped from one nintendo franchise to another

[civic harness]

How is everything?

[clear lichen]

NDW is too strong in OU but outclassed by Lunala and NDM in Ubers

[glossy jewel]

Trying to do better

[rain locust]

ubs would def powercreep the tier rn even if i like them

[clear lichen]

NDM in particular is cruel since species clause prevents the usage of NDW

[glass patio]

…i think i once saw a smash mod that turned luma into a minior

[civic harness]

And how is going that?

[glossy jewel]

Decent

[clear lichen]

??? Bro there's like 2 of them that would perform well

[grave jolt]

is psychic actually bad?

[clear lichen]

Actually tbf Kartana probably would be banned, Tera fixes its problems

[clear lichen]

Yes

[quaint mauve]

Psychic is effectively a worse version of fairy these days.

[clear lichen]

It's poor offensively and defensively without many standout factors

[rain locust]

are you talking about gen 9 or fusions

i thought this convo was about the hypothetical of adding ubs to fusions

[clear lichen]

I would definitely like UBs in IF it'd be funny

Kartana would probably be the most broken I'd imagine

[grave jolt]

same lmao, I'd never get a dex completion if I got the UBs in IF

[glossy jewel]

no legendaries this time around

[glass patio]

i remember we could’ve had xurkitree hol up

[clear lichen]

Because it just loses the one weakness it struggles with the most

[clear lichen]

1: I know
2: Not a legendary
3: UBs are excluded anyways

[glass patio]

yea #announcements message and meloetta won it was entirely random

[clear lichen]

UBs are technically not legendaries but may as well be

[glossy jewel]

I can not be bothered distinguishing legendaries, ubs and mythicals every time I mention it

[clear lichen]

UBs are quicker to type so I distinguish between them for that reason

[glossy jewel]

they fall under the same category

of being "unique"

[quaint mauve]

Ultra beasts are legendary in all the ways that matter. there being more than one of them is just lore.

[rain locust]

blacephalon instant ban bc zam/nidoking exist
xurkitree instant ban bc 173 spa with tg
kart instant ban bc 181 atk with sd
pheromosa probably instant ban bc 137/137/151 offenses with qd
naganadel probably instant ban bc plot + beast boost
buzzwole/staka might warp the def meta idk
nihilego would be bad
celesteela would be uh mediocre

did i forget any

[grave jolt]

They're sub legendaries, same program category as pokemon like the legendary birds.

[clear lichen]

I'd disagree due to Home having to elaborate that they're "other special Pokemon"

[quaint mauve]

... the legendary bird trio aren't legendaries

[clear lichen]

But this is a dumb argument because let's be honest they're as strong as a legendary anyways

[glass patio]

does strong always have to equal legendary

i dont think it should be like that

[clear lichen]

Nope!

[grave jolt]

Posted earlier, but here's the list Bulbipedia used for a source again
https://fxtwitter.com/SciresM/status/799322666079551488

[clear lichen]

Pseudo Legendaries are as strong as some of the strongest sub-legendaries in BST

[glass patio]

yep

[clear lichen]

Well then clearly this would contradict with HOME

[exotic steppe]

Hi!
I’m not sick any more

Anyways
Clauncher

[clear lichen]

So either this is not entirely accurate, HOME isn't entirely accurate, or it doesn't fucking matter

Because they're basically the same thing anyways

[quaint mauve]

1. Didn't ask to be pinged there.
2. Can we just agree home was probably put together by a egg carton full of interns?

[clear lichen]

I just like arguing slight semantics

[glass patio]

ubs aren’t legendaries problem solved 👍

[grave jolt]

It's the list used for comp restrictions

[clear lichen]

That are meaningless

[exotic steppe]

It seems like I have arrived in the middle of a very… interesting argument….

[clear lichen]

Yeah pretty much

[exotic steppe]

You all have fun with this I guess

I’m going to go

[clear lichen]

Hey wait actually why do they just ban all legendaries but not like Pseudos

[stuck bane]

The “legendary” birds are commonplace enough to be known throughout multiple regions

It doesn’t matter

[clear lichen]

Pseudos have stats extremely close to legendaries

[glass patio]

pseudos are different

man you really like to argue about minimal things

[clear lichen]

You can't say "oh Psuedos are generally worse" either

Because like

Articuno

Legendary Beasts

[grave jolt]

it's simple: they look like legendaries, they act like legendaries, and Gamefreak treats them like legendaries.

[clear lichen]

Legendary Titans

They're terrible yet they're still banned anyways

[quaint mauve]

goodra has a higher bst than most of the ultra beasts. Its just not hyper specialized towards one stat

[glass patio]

look it’s probably because even if ubs arent legendaries you cant just put them in the wild there has to be something special for them

[clear lichen]

Yknow what I probably shouldn't question it

[glass patio]

but you can put pseudos in the wild

[glass patio]

Frick i typed that wrong

[clear lichen]

Goodra is definitely better than Guzzlord or Stakataka tbf

[glass patio]

hol up

[clear lichen]

It sucks but they're worse

And Goodra is the worst Pseudo by a long shot

[quaint mauve]

Didn't Stak have a niche in doubles anyways?

[clear lichen]

Well in Singles I'm not sure about Doubles,

[glass patio]

fixed

[clear lichen]

And ik Stakataka is good in Doubles

But Guzzlord definitely isn't

[glass patio]

wait r we talking about pvp or what

i dont think i understand

am i dumb

[clear lichen]

Yeah we're talking PVP these are competitive level restrictions

For Doubles

AKA VGC

[glass patio]

…oh

yes im dumb

ignore what i said

[quaint mauve]

I gave up trying to understand the topic a while ago, im just posting here while trying to duct tape an Oath of Ancients Paladin together

[clear lichen]

If they're banning all Pokemon with that level of BST then why would Pseudos not be banned as well?

It's not like they have a restriction on them like something akin to Slaking or Wishiwashi

They just have that high BST

[grave jolt]

It's not BST, it's just all legends, Sub Legends, and Mythicals

and ursaluna

[quaint mauve]

Pseudos evolving as late as they do is supposed to be their restriction, to be fair.

[clear lichen]

Yeah but why ban those but not similarly strong Pokemon is what I'm saying

[grave jolt]

Testing the waters

[clear lichen]

Like what's the reasoning for banning Legendaries if it isn't BST?

Availability I guess?

[grave jolt]

GF wants to see how a restricted-less meta plays.

[clear lichen]

We've had no restricted metas in the past

[quaint mauve]

Perish Song memes id imagine

[clear lichen]

So it's not like this is new for them

Though I doubt the weaker legendaries are restricted

Either ways I don't see mf Regirock anywhere

So I don't know for sure

[quaint mauve]

I mean, thats less its fault and more the fact rock moves are, to limited exception, not perfectly accurate.

[clear lichen]

Rock Slide is great in Doubles though

[viscid fossil]

The one good rock move we have is barely on 10% of pokemon who would want it

[clear lichen]

So you'd expect Regirock to see some usage in Doubles if anywhere

[grave jolt]

oh right, I forgot they also banned the totally-not-legendary-pokemon in the Paradox and Ruins

[clear lichen]

Ruins are definitely legendaries

[rain locust]

stakataka would be a top tier fusion fodder

[clear lichen]

Paradoxes are definitely not though, I'd say this is backing proof that Paradoxes and UBs are both technically not legendaries

[rain locust]

it shows in nd

[clear lichen]

But still treated as such due to their high stats

Stakataka would go from dogshit to broken so fast when entering Infinite Fusion

NO MORE ROCK/STEEL TYPE YIPPEE

[grave jolt]

The height of Fluttermane being 90% usage shows why it's a bad idea

[clear lichen]

Flutter Mane is the worst

I hate that bitch

None of the Paradoxes except like Bundle in Singles are quite as broken

[quaint mauve]

... I know that emote from somewhere.

[grave jolt]

The Paradox pokemon are basically Mythicals under a different name.

[clear lichen]

But Flutter Mane gets to be broken in 2 formats instead of 1

How about mf Brute Bonnet

Why is he terrible in 2

[rain locust]

how to make pidgeot instantly decent 101

[clear lichen]

While Flutter gets to be broken in 2

[quaint mauve]

55 speed 7 weaknesses?

[molten latch]

Morning everyone.

[clear lichen]

I meant as in why did they make it 55 speed 7 weaknesses

[rain locust]

nvm noivern just edges it out back to f tier it goes

[grave jolt]

Would Stakataka/Gardevoir just be that one princess from the game Slay the Princess? 🤔

[clear lichen]

And make Flutter Mane absurdly broken with 135 SpA 135 Speed and the best offensive type combo in the game

Except maybe something like Ghost/Normal for neutral hits

Or maybe Ghost/Fighting?

[rain locust]

waiit a minute noivern doesnt have brave bird

pidgeot wins again

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pidgeot-pigeon-pokemon-anime-gif-17250550

[clear lichen]

Noivern isn't a bird Crobat isn't real

[quaint mauve]

Flutter mane being popular would just bring scizor back to meta comps

because bullet punch is a thing that exists

[clear lichen]

And so is Terastalisation, or switching

[rain locust]

bring back pursuit fr

[clear lichen]

Or predicting the switch with Mystical Fire and wiping Scizor from this plain of existence

[quaint mauve]

its still 55/55 taking a tech-stab priority move.

[clear lichen]

Scizor's no Ferrothorn

Obviously it OHKOs what I'm saying is that it is easily played around

[rain locust]

252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Fire Flutter Mane: 113-134 (45 - 53.3%) -- 35.2% chance to 2HKO

[clear lichen]

And resisted Tera means you lose Scizor and Flutter Mane is still around

[viscid fossil]

"Oh I bet you're feeling lucky we no longer learn pursuit"
-great tusk

[rain locust]

TUSK KNEW PURSUIT ⁉️

[grave jolt]

God miss the banned moves 😔

[clear lichen]

Give Pawniard line back Knock Off and Pursuit so that we can remove Kingambit from OU pls

[quaint mauve]

... This shit is why i stopped playing mainline games after UsUm, you used to need weird shit like Trick or fucking Treat to change your typing

[clear lichen]

Donphan might have

[rain locust]

does not

[clear lichen]

SV is my least favourite new generation competitively

Because man the powercreep is insane

We turned Eternatus slow

[grave jolt]

I hate everything except Gen 6 😌

[clear lichen]

It's over

130 speed is now difficult to play with

[grave jolt]

What we really need is Eternamax Eternatus

[molten latch]

Does that mean you hate gen 4?

[high haven]

Pachirisu isn't gen 6

[clear lichen]

Anyways non competitively It's like my favourite or 2nd favourite

But I cannot get over just how absurd Gen 9 Competitive is

[viscid fossil]

Pursuit isn't in gen 9

[grave jolt]

Sad

[viscid fossil]

It's just a line from a meme song parody, "more usage than you"

[clear lichen]

I've been considering learning Gen 7 Ubers to kill time while waiting for Gen 10

Mainly because I'd get to use Lunala without it being balls

Idk who at Gamefreak made Ghost types untrappable but thank you I shall now swap out against Mega Gengar threatening to blast me into non existence

... is what I would say if Lunala wasn't the GOAT

252 SpA Gengar-Mega Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 12 SpD Shadow Shield Lunala: 300-354 (72.2 - 85.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Shadow Shield gaming

(Ignore the fact that Stealth Rocks exist)

Lunala would probably be obscene in IF actually

Shadow Shield gives it a free turn and it can shed its quad weaknesses to Ghost and Dark

Finally, Fairy/Ghost Lunala

[rain locust]

would def be a p solid ag pick

cause moongeist beats sheds

[clear lichen]

I'd imagine most people would run Normal/Ghost Shedinja though, no?

Or Ghost/Normal whatever

[high haven]

Does the order matter?

[rain locust]

its an option but its weak to stuff like toxic and pursuit

[clear lichen]

Also simply just set up Stealth Rocks fr

[clear lichen]

It depends on what order Shedinja's type is

Because idk if it is Bug/Ghost or Ghost/Bug

It doesn't matter tbf

[high haven]

Pretty sure it's bug/ghost

[quaint mauve]

I'm gonna say bug/ghost for the sake of its evolution line.

[clear lichen]

It only matters if you need to fuse with a dual typed Pokemon with Normal type

[quaint mauve]

nincada's bug/rock

[clear lichen]

But just fuse with Slaking or Regigigas or something

[quaint mauve]

or, ground. whatever

[clear lichen]

It's Bug/Ground

Damn you corrected yourself before I corrected you

It's so over for me

I am gonna be executed for my sins now

Xerneas/Lunala with Geomancy would be so funny actually

[rain locust]

slaking/regigigas are not good

this is though

[clear lichen]

Ah, Endeavor strats

[rain locust]

with uturn/bp/wisp as other options in last slot

[clear lichen]

I forgot those existed

Would the game actually allow the fusion to go above 1 HP?

[rain locust]

no it sets it to 1 hp

[clear lichen]

I'd assume not

[quaint mauve]

Willo-the-wisp

[clear lichen]

Anyways, simply bring out a Ghost type, click Stealth Rock then click Roar frfr

[rain locust]

shed teams always load magic bounce

[clear lichen]

Yeah I guess that's obvious

Simply use Lunala fusion and Moongeist Beam fr

[high haven]

Wonder Guard is already busted as is on a Mon with 1 HP, adding any more would be ludicrous

[rain locust]

before regigigas got mold breaker shed was major king in the meta

[clear lichen]

That's why we need Lunala in the game trust

Solgaleo works too, Sunsteel Strike can't even be negated by any type

[rain locust]

its still v good but not as much anymore

[clear lichen]

So no Shedinja shenanigans on its watch

[rain locust]

shed would just go to the steel resist anyway

fat water or even just imposter

[clear lichen]

And then get OHKOd by Sunsteel Strike because of 1 HP?

Or you mean as a teammate

[rain locust]

no i mean the player using shed would switch out shed into the steel resist

[clear lichen]

So you mean as a teammate

[rain locust]

yeah

[clear lichen]

See, that's why hazards are used

Force switches force chip

Simply uhh

KO magic bounce user fr

[rain locust]

riight

[clear lichen]

Actually just say "Agency Agency" and use Stealth Rock on the Magic Bounce user switching out

Simple

Idk how much I like the idea of using Shedinja since if you don't keep hazards off your field Shedinja is worthless

And even after that you still need to play cautious of status

Or the 1 type that hits you for SE

Or Mold Breaker

But those problems aren't as bad in IF due to being able to cut the number of weaknesses to 1

And also due to magic bounce not being exclusive to bad mons anymore

Alongside hazard clearing

Which always existed

Ferrothorn no diffs fr

Leech Seed W

[finite thistle]

Tauros is actually faster, so he works better for any Endeavor strats

[rain locust]

its actually better to be slow so the opp ends with 1 hp last

to get priod the next turn

so ig igglybuff is the best? lol

[finite thistle]

Yeah, that's a good point. Was thinking about it in terms of getting it off, but being slower does avoid heal stalling

[rain locust]

yeah exactly

too fast means opp can just spam recover

[glass patio]

rahhhh shedinja mentioned 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[finite thistle]

Igglybuff Shedinja does indeed look real cursed

[silent acorn]

I swear anaconja and dragon are enough reason to have the new-competitive-pokemon-discussion channel

Like really they could fill the whole channel with just hows

[noble spade]

Shedinja darkrai fusion would be op if you do dark ghost + wonder guard

[outer matrix]

besides that one USUM lilligant clip, what does the regular unovan lilligant bring into the competitive scene for fusions?

[analog stag]

I do hope we eventually get the alolan forms in the game

[terse fable]

alolan forms would be pretty nuts

[novel bough]

TORKOAL

[grave jolt]

So do I, even as alternate forms like oricorio.

[twin phoenix]

Same, Alolan Ninetales would be incredible to make fusions with.

[rough hound]

Obligatory toxicroak propoganda. Vote my man hes cool

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-cute-shiny-pokemon-squirrel-gif-26992650

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-pokemon-gif-19673550

[gray vine]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-squirrel-pokemon-pokemon-pachirisu-adorable-gif-17099886384054803802

[molten latch]

Hey Silverr

Can we be friends?

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-happy-dance-hyper-gif-25491309

[rain locust]

naw darkrai is outclassed by sableye bc the latter has pain split

[high haven]

https://tenor.com/view/seviper-treeko-poison-fighting-fast-gif-4747963

[grave jolt]

ah neat, treeko propoganda!

[rigid igloo]

I would love to see crogunk line, scraggy line, impidimp line, toxel line

[gray stream]

impidimp and toxel will never be in the game unfortunately

[rigid igloo]

Y not

[gray stream]

no pokemon past gen 7

[rigid igloo]

Oh

[grave jolt]

gen 8+ are banned because of code restrictions

[rigid igloo]

I must miss read then I thought it said up to gen 8

[grave jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1137892936915361942/1195306820680556565/image0.png?ex=66c26f79&is=66c11df9&hm=133e9b775120984c688b7d0bbf4439eb9ac97071e3b54759fa9272ab5511454a&

[real nymph]

throh and sawk,need more mario and luigi fusions

[shrewd ginkgo]

What do you mean?

Is this like where Minecraft used to only have so many id limits for blocks?

[high haven]

Finally, someone who gets me

[terse fable]

The game's engine it runs on is only up to gen 7, so anything after isn't as easy to do

[shrewd ginkgo]

?

You mean that's only how many slots it has for pokemon? Enough to hold up to Gen 7?

Or is it using code from pokemon games or something? I'd assume not

[terse fable]

Anything from gen 1 to 7 is feasible. gen 8 onwards is not, at least for now

[terse fable]

It's using code from pokemon Essentials, and the version it's on is gen 7

[shrewd ginkgo]

Ooooooh I see

[civic harness]

Hello there

[shrewd ginkgo]

Gen 7 is the Alola season right?

[molten latch]

If it was run by a stronger engine, it would be 2x better

Without lags and such.

[shrewd ginkgo]

General Kenobi!

insert machamp joke here

[civic harness]

Oh well

How is everything?

[shrewd ginkgo]

OK good

That's the last Gen I'm familiar with LOL

[civic harness]

What pokemon could you want?

[terse fable]

I'm just hanginn, debating sleeping or playing game loll

[shrewd ginkgo]

Simultaneously have COVID and bronchitis

[civic harness]

Im just making the concept for the last request

[terse fable]

ooohh fun!

[shrewd ginkgo]

I was actually about to ask if I could post a list of pokemon I'd love to see added solely because I feel like it

[shrewd ginkgo]

Otherwise I'm alive, you?

[molten latch]

I've survived

In this server.

[civic harness]

Yes, you can do it

[molten latch]

Anyways

https://tenor.com/view/skitty-pokemon-cute-gif-15574812

[civic harness]

Time to wait and see that list

[molten latch]

Can we talk about something?

[molten latch]

Skitter baby goober yippee!!!

[civic harness]

Do you like crabs?

[molten latch]

Crustle is underrated, Crabomidable is hated.

And Klawf is DNI.

[civic harness]

Oh

I know

[molten latch]

So sad that these crab pokemons are rarely rated

Except Crawdaunt (Despite being a crawfish) and Kingler

Tho I understand that my zodiac is cancar

Thats why Crustle needs a 2nd chance.

[civic harness]

At least I see that Crabominable is a little more acceptable than before, in the tier lists made by users is not in the end

[high haven]

Dude Crawdaunt is cool, I'd be happy with crawdaunt

[shrewd ginkgo]

In no particular order Greninja Tynamo and Rowlett are my top three, Manectric is up there too

[molten latch]

Idk

Should I put Crustle or Crawdaunt to 2?

I only can move 1 pokemon for now.

[craggy lintel]

What new pokemon are being added?

[civic harness]

We dont now for now, but there are two slots for lines

One for the normal votes

And the other for the raffle

[craggy lintel]

can we ask for a starter line?

*vote

[civic harness]

No starters this year

That are 9 pokemon in one slot

[craggy lintel]

I was going to vote for the froakie line

[civic harness]

If you vote that one, you are voting for the other two lines

Starter packs

[craggy lintel]

I see

that's fair, but is also kind of a shame

[civic harness]

Meanwhile, you can see what pokemons are join to the raffle, is about events, if you win you can add one pokemon or line to the raffle
#announcements message

[agile olive]

Yeah as mentioned in the announcement, starters and legendary/mythicals are not included this time

[wide trout]

Rip no Dragapult vote

[hushed mantle]

No iron treads vote 😔

[latent karma]

I hope Musharna Makes the cut

[sullen elbow]

No tera normal shiny yellow squakabilly vote 😔

[hexed agate]

You can get Diet Iron Hands

[hexed agate]

Chatot diff

[sharp nebula]

lilligant
thank you for your time

[grave jolt]

Using a sprite for Pachirisu/Emolga from Luna in my current game
#1225623607091396692 message

[civic harness]

Hello there

[grave jolt]

Howdy

[civic harness]

What do you think?
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1274629199449165864

[grave jolt]

Unique idea, I like it

[civic harness]

How is everything?

[grave jolt]

can't complain

[civic harness]

Good

[molten latch]

I get it that it won the pokemon tournament since 2014

Because it has follow me.

It's also Dawn's Pokemon along side with Mamoswine.

[slow arch]

For real though, the Gen 6 starters should totally be in the game. I could see so much potential for magical looking ones with the Delphox fusions

[molten latch]

You mean Gen 6?

Gen 7 only has Robin Hood, Wrestler and a Mermaid

[slow arch]

Yeah, I did

I'm tired lmao

[velvet root]

Greetings everyone

[sinful smelt]

Greetings!

Havin a good time?

[molten latch]

Morning

https://tenor.com/view/skiddo-gif-5097636

[velvet root]

yeeee
my new pc is up
and now I only transfer stuff from my old Laptop to my pc

Sadly that means I had no time to do a Goat yesterday

[sinful smelt]

Yeah! What PC? Why the upgrade if I might ask?

[velvet root]

My Laptop is 14ish years old

[molten latch]

Yikes

[velvet root]

And I wanna play the games I bought you know

[molten latch]

What is it?

[sinful smelt]

What exactly? I did the same in may!

[molten latch]

[velvet root]

The pc or games?

[sinful smelt]

Going through all Assassin's now, pillars of eternity and then moving to BG3

[sinful smelt]

What games :3

[molten latch]

The game

[velvet root]

Planet Zoo
Prehistoric Kingdom
Little nightmares 1+2
House Flipper
Cult of the lamb
Undertale
Minecraft

I wanna play thosw with more fps than 10

[molten latch]

Nice

[sinful smelt]

Oooh

[molten latch]

I recommend to play cobblemon

[sinful smelt]

I'd play the frick out of Minecraft if I had a server I would really feel the vibe with, I feel like

[velvet root]

Yeah now im stuck on what modpack I wanna play XD
I bring my old ones over for example the one with my 100 days world but yeah

[sinful smelt]

Although chronically not having enough free time hurts too

[molten latch]

Yeah

[sinful smelt]

If RPGs are your thing, I recommend wynncraft

[velvet root]

Problem is
Many stuff is my thing
But I love modpacks that bring more animals and creatures in the game

[molten latch]

I see

Anyways, I'm playing a Nuzlocke

[velvet root]

Its so sick to open curse forge and not have to wait 4 minutes

[velvet root]

nice

how is it going

[molten latch]

Fine so far

[simple gulch]

:v so many sprite, so lil time to make

[molten latch]

But I accidentally catch a poisoned pikachu

And died.

Its my Kakuna's fault.

Because Idk that walking may continue the poison effect.

[prime dust]

it does continue it

been a thing since gen 1

stopped mechanics wise in like gen 5 i think, but IF uses it if you aren't on easy difficulty

[molten latch]

Yeah I'm stupid
R.I.P. Thorfinn the Pikachu.

I'm now gonna fight Dwayne (The) Brock Johnson.

[sinful smelt]

I played a ruby nuzlocke, but stopped at gym 6 being salty over losing my swampert

[molten latch]

Oof

Winona ain't no joke

As she can be too tricky to outclass if you aren't keen.

BTW, I may still use Repels and Escape Ropes if the battle gets so tighten.

[near galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/tropius-pokemon-gif-27432751

Vote for the bestest boi Tropius

[viscid fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/royal-pear-clone-pear-best-clone-in-the-arg-best-clone-pear-ever-like-fr-tho-best-shorts-creator-aka-clone-pear-gif-9711582399352512063

[simple gulch]

bana

[molten latch]

Tropius and Meganium are underrated Dinomons

[sinful smelt]

That's the guy who killed my swampert in nuzlocke. I hold a grudge against it. You came into the discussion just in time xD

But to be fair, that's a cool mon to sprite, I'd be down for tropius, although it doesn't have any evos, so less new mons this way

[near galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

[earnest mortar]

these COULD be a Smeargle/Tropius Fusion if Tropius gets added

[simple gulch]

thats low pory. so porygon

[molten latch]

Armada the Squirtle Solo'd Dwayne (The) Brock Johnson.

I know its the wrong channel, but I want to post it here.

[molten latch]

Do you have something to say?

[prime dust]

mid...a true chad/chadette would pick charmander and suffer in the first 2 gyms

lying through his teeth as he used Butterfree for the first gym and Pikachu for the second, despite picking Charmander

[deft obsidian]

A pokemon with one stage, probably make frogman happy

[clear lichen]

Finally, Tropius buff

[molten latch]

Yeah. . . I understand.