#pif-hoenn-discussion
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I imagine more like a street fighter
Zangoose 😍
fat
wide bone
KAJAJAJAJ
I want a bugg, a very cute one with a cute line
furries zangoose uwu
hiya here
it a hell to code thou
frogman dislike every hard coding mon if u looking about it
I want a cute heart fish , but burmy is funny too
Me knowing if a bug gets in i'll have to find a way to turn it into a rider sprite with bisharp
scolipede?
it's bugging mich to do it
mm but moth 🙂
venomoth?
When I think of cute bug line where all members are cute, I think of Ledyba.
also today we get the 3rd mon on the list
venomoth is the boy too
cutiesfly
but mothim is the cuter line
Both can coexist, a street gang 
Lol, tbh i look at a mon and think, can i turn this into x kamen rider with bisharp or gallade? Sadly none of the mons this vote would work lol
Hello chat it's time for me to have nothing to say until thinking of something to say
:v i wonder
Usually I have nothing to say most of what I say is just on the spot typing
talk about pant
remember to give love to doggos as well
Haha Dragon Dance goes brrrrr
before addign a ref sprite into th game youll have to apply for a spriter
I just request them lol
But thats not what i mean (Obvs, i dont sprite), i just look at the mons and see if it could make for whatever thing i can think of
Like i look at Excadrill and Tyrantrum, drill dinosaur...Abaren-Oh ref (At least the t-rex component)
crawdaunt is a a good mon to 3 as welll
True, its my go to Hoenn water mon
:v buff luv… oh what am i can even do, hope for valentines
I can't wait to see buff luv then
it too simple
both these mons lines would be nice, really want Stoutlandd
Bri ish mon
there's so many good picks
Bru ish
👄🐟
cor ish
add peeko
is that guzma animation
is that Bruxish/Huntail fusion???
if we talk about overworld sprites then we should also get munna
i hope they add bunnelby 🙂 id like another huge power pokemon so that would be nice
unlikely but who knows
Theres also mincinno
I didn't know about that one
I want a useable Contrary user
would you prefer serperior or malamar? (or lurantis i guess...)
Lurantis
Serperior isnt an option for now tho
Malamar is better tbh
But I want to make pants lol
i saw earlier that they dont wanna add the new evolutions but i hope they change thier mind cus i like ursaluna
gen 8+ is highly unlikely to ever be added
and i think thats a gosh darned shame
you are welcome to make your own infinite fusion game that can make use of those gens
but the reason Frog has makes sense
whats the reason?
ah i see. i did not know that
yeah
and honestly the community is generally fine with that, we'd rather get more stuff from gens 3-7 before we even entertain the idea of gen 8+
epecially given Frog is the only dev for the game
i know this is petty but i hope they add in less legendaries lol, they just arent as usable as an early route mon thats quick to find
stuff like that isn't as common because frog wants the game to have special events for them, which take more time to add in
thu why this time with the vote there's no legends/mythicals/ultra beasts
starter mons sort of fit into the ame avenue
also Frog knows if the starters were in the vote this time they would dominate like they did last time
and if you add in 1 starter you kinda need to add in the other 2
along with new pokemon i also want them to increase move distribution for certain moves the way they did with shellsmash and quiver dance (idk if they did that with the new update) id love to see more power trip users so i can run speedboost stored power but physical
game uses gen 7 movepools/learn sets
Speaking of moveset expansion how come Zekrom can’t learn ddance?
because it doesn't dance
It did in gen 8 apparently
and it ain't no friend of mine
With a tr
we dont do gen 8
yeah see the earlier convo
Oh ok
that would require frog to manually add it in, high chance of borkage
i feel like move adding specific distribution wouldnt be too messy, though it would probably be tedious lol
i mean theyve done it before
Frog should just add gen 10 already jeez
why hasnt frog added gen 11 yet?
Fakemons and digimon only
i made an oc can frog add it? its arceus mecha and it has 250 in each stat
my 3 picks of pokemon to be added would be diggersby, burmy, and pelipper
It would be cool if some of the last poll additions got Expert Tutor moves, to my knowledge none of them did
Oricorio would be so much better with Quiver Dance
if it can learn it via gen 7 move pool then you can make a #game-suggestions for it, might want to do just a blanket suggestion of "newer mons added to the game from 6.0+ should be able to learn move tutor, egg tutor, or expert tutor moves where applicable"
Musharna would also be hype: it’s already an overworld mon, can make dream fusions, floral pattern fusions, and you can get one extremely early since it’s a moon stone evolution, also serves as an amazing head with good hp, special attack, and special defense, only psychic type with access to defense curl, and the only non-legendary psychic type to learn lucky chant naturally
Cinccino is a good one too that I haven’t posted yet: it’s already an overworld Mon, and good attack and speed, also brings chinchilla fusions, is the only pure normal type to learn bullet seed, and the only pure normal type to learn rock blast, and is the only Pokémon to naturally learn tail slap
Gen 5 overworld sprites added plz
Ugh i want musharna so bad
It can only learn it in Gen 9 via Mirror Herb with one of the other Quiver Dancers iirc (Volcarona for example)
then you are SoL
Yeah it's a gen9 exclusive, but Quiver Dance is a Move Tutor
anything move/ability wise from gen 8+ requires more work from Frog
Expert Move Tutors are 100% custom anyway
i know but i figured i'd add it in just in case since there are likely some fusions where expert moves could be used but can't be learned
as I already posted earlier, this would apply for that situation:
I think what was meant is coding new abilities and moves instead of adding new moves to a Pokemon learnset
I could be wrong though
Correct
Is Chandelure still having Shadow Tag an oversight
Or did they decide to give it a bone
you can try for a #game-suggestions but don't get your hopes up, a lot of people have made suggestions for mons to get gen 8 or 9 moves they have then and as far as i know almost nothing has come of it
Theoretically the change from Gens 5 to 7 should replace it with Infiltrator
Shadow Tag is better by like 50 times
But still
Yeah I'll make a request tomorrow, Oricorio kinda sucks atm
Quiver Dance is a Gen 5 move
Oricorio got it in Gen 9, is all
I dont see why they'd show favouritism for specifically Oricorio and no other mon though so I wouldn't expect it to change
already been suggested, granted it was late last year but
Unless they did something like
Give Shell Smash to Blastoise
Which is also only post Gen 7
Which in that case I'd say you could attempt to push for it
(And also Encore to Gengar)
Those 2 are the ones I can remember the best because in NatDex formats where megas and these new moves coexist, Mega Blastoise and Gengar got massive boosts from these moves
Mega Blastoise going from an RU mon to Ubers and Mega Gengar going from Ubers to AG
Mega Gengar was banned alongside other top tier AG mons like Caly-S
So that one's particularly memorable
Since that puts it above Mega Rayquaza in viability
That's why it doesn't exist
Because it's broken
Consider CARCINIZATION 🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀
Krabby's good enough
Man
You know I like it.
Reminds me of naked Mr. Krabs but in a good way
When a pokemon in showdown says it's illegal what exactly does that entail?
Since we do have deltas and some of uranium mons?
I mean isn't the vote more so for like... Playthrough fangame mons?
Like the singleplayer?
Because I don't think we are getting a vote for delta mons lol
The vote is for existing Pokemon
Fakemon exist simply because Pokeathalon is a multi-purpose server
Yes...
Then... How come we discuss competitive mons even though technically they aren't locked at pokeathlon?
Because some people don't play NatDex
And some people want to have their horrifying meta destroyers in game
And also for them to have sprites
Stuff like that I'd imagine
Alright so basically there is no point to discussing the competitive since what matters in this vote is the ones getting designs
So like you can say they can do X and Y but in reality you want them for the sprites
Like I said, some people don't play the NatDex formats on Pokeathalon
And some of them want to use these fusions in game
Instead of just on Showdown
Ok thats fair, but that means anything is viable in game
It's fun to steamroll NPCs without thinking
Because in game there isn't competitive side more like experimentation
What is competitive if not experimentation taken to another level?
That moment when you make weird strats
Alright that's better
The people in the second vote will be a roughly even split between people whom have won Showdown tournaments (spriting skill not required, competitive interest required), and people who have won spriting contests (spriting skill required, competitive interest not required). People who only care about in-game playthroughs aren't really represented.
I'm personally looking for both good designs and potential in competitive
Sadge but then again cheaters are common
The better in Competitive something is the more fun and effortless it is to completely and utterly steamroll NPCs with it
Either someone wants a mon in so they can use it for their Showdown teams, or they want to see it sprites. Probably with plenty of overlap.
Not in competitive, in game playthroughs I mean
On Showdown? How would one cheat there?
Oh nvm
You can't it's a server
There is mods but they are detectable
Some people want to use weaker Pokemon, others want to use stronger ones, personally it isn't gonna be difficult either ways so just do goofy shit
Yeah, I was like "if you have a level 200 mon people will notice" haha
Single playthrough gives wayyyy too much manipulation to players to be fair for competition or tournaments regarding these desicion
I'd argue you should bring the competitive and like what good Power it has for sprites, since well that's the thing connecting the two
Even though I do love exploiting strats and game mechanics
I like both
Just sad we can't have more than Gen 7s moves
And thankfully the Pokemon I like usually have some key points that can be exploited to make into something insane
Even if the Pokemon itself isn't very good
Gigalith is an exception :(
Alright I respect that. Sometimes I was wondering "hey what does competitive matter in this" since well it let's you do weird combos, whilst saying illegal, but hey I get it now. It's a fair point to consider
yeah if it's the best competitievly but a pain to sprite it's not gonna have a lot of strong fusions sprited
I think the best way to explain this is an example
Darmanitan isn't an extremely great performer in Pokemon battles
It doesn't struggle with power, it has PLENTY of that
But its speed is a bit lacking
Not quite Rampardos levels of lacking though, and hence it can be easily saved
What do you get when you combine Darmanitan's sky high attack and Sheer Force with speed?
Probably something terrifying
Which is what I want to see
And also obviously I'm bringing up Darmanitan because I'm personally a fan of it
Otherwise why would I use it as an example of a Pokemon I like that has a stat spread that can be rather easily turned into something deadly
My girl is energetically playing piano x)
95 was not fast in Gen 5 and it definitely isn't fast in Gen 7 unfortunately
Darmanitan's bulk is also poor, apart from the high HP allowing for the spamming of Flare Blitz
I sometimes wish more pokemon moves had secondary effects
How could would a move that does 40BP but doubles if you move first would be? Like forcing you to find a way to outsped or lower the enemy speed
Or a move that the more drag on the battle is the more deadly it becomes?
in 30 minutes elusive pokedex entries closes which means that we might get the 3rd pokemon revealed soon
Oh nice
By the way how did we see the elusive? I try a link but it only showed me like 10 entries
there's no way to see the entries for the current one yet
It's probably closer to the monotype Smogon format
it's a spriting team , the goal of this team is to sprite mono type fusions
Where you can only have 1 type per team
Ah......
we finished a few types but it's currently dead
Wow I phrased that poorly
All your Pokemon would need to share 1 type is what I mean
Well there is the ones in spritwork i guess :v
that would be cheating fo the other contestants but don't worry it close in 20 minutes
The other types can be different
And I'd imagine team monotype would work similarly/the same
nope just fusiosn with 1 type only
Then we get to see em? Thatd be pretty nice
yes
Ngl I think I prefer normal Monotype
How would you win against a bad matchup here?
we're just spriting fusions

Oh
Mb team monotype sounds like a competitive format
Yknow with the fact that a format literally called monotype exists
Wait there literally is a monotype tournament
I assume that's a different thing to this though
team monotype existsince longer then the tournament announcements
I think the effects of staying awake for 22 hours are getting to me
not everythign is centered around competitive
But my brain is wired to think that way so if I see the word monotype and know that the server's hosting tournament events I'm instantly gonna assume that
At least, when I've been awake for 22 hours
A mon with an fighting move?
Otherwise I probably wouldn't have
I'd be funny to have the normal championship and everyone running substitute with Recover and leftovers
Nobody plays like that
You aren't sleeping
The potential for is there XD
Sleeping people don't type zzzzzzzz
Gn
You're gonna get hit by actual damaging moves and die if you try
it doesn't seems like this from the announcement
What, you think people are gonna let you set up Substitute for free?
And then spam Recover
For free?
They aren't stupid
At least I'm assuming
wait it's because it's an other event ending toay
Thank you term I was confgused
todayI think it's the icon contest ending
yep it's today
If you only play normal monotype both you and enemy... You are gonna have a bad time
it gonna be a struggle competition (the slowest wins)
Normal monotype isn't a very common monotype to run
Turut turururu
You aren't getting me man, I am saying Normal V Normal competitive
Fairy and Dragon have -1 options
Not single run, not different types, both you and enemy forced to use only monotype normal
Even in that case I don't see why it'd end up being substitute+recover spam
No other type, just normal types allowed imagine that
Attacking moves exist
People will use them
And you will be losing HP every time you click Substitute and it gets immediately destroyed
Because it's the way to endure the hits then hit back then heal then rinse and repeat
I hope to win the icon mini contest (very unlikely)
Or even worse, you click Substitute then get hit by Boomburst and die
n
I hope you like spam clicking Substitute as your opponent instantly breaks it down
This is a fair point except... Aside from Exploud what other normal type gets boom burst?
And then once you try to Recover, you realise "hey wait they're outdamaging my Recover"
And then you die
Substitute takes hit you heal rinse and repeat
Idk, depends on if we allow Normal/Flying or something
No. Only normal
You'd be stuck setting Substitute and having it break over and over
Is that not obvious enough?
Well you can fuse the ones with normal but only normal monotype
If Substitute+Recover was an easy infinite loop people would use it
But any sane player would just spam an attacking move and instantly break Substitute as soon as you try setting it up
Leading to nothing but a HP loss for you
Reminder that I said this wouldn't be fun and it just be a torture method to get a vote
You try to Recover and they hit you again
If you want to torture someone, you use Funbro
Which is banned from AG
Funbro?
Any actually efficient torture methods are banned even from AG
Leppa Berry Slowbro with Block, Heal Pulse, Recycle and Slack Off
The idea is you trap your opponent, keep your PP up with Leppa Berry and Recycle, and heal your opponent when they Struggle
For all eternity
Once they get trapped there is 0 way out other than forfeiting
It's banned
Because Competitive is about competing and having fun
And not about torturing other people with non literal toxicity
We aren't fucking psychopaths
This is like some next level competitive player disrespect
Oh kk
BTW I'm playing Pokemon Blue Nuzlocke and my Pikachu died because the poison was active during out of battle.
Unfortunate
It was my fault for using Kakuna because in my rules.
I can't let my starter died.
If so, then I'll start over as I have to use either charmander or bulbasaur.
If I lose all of my starters during the run, its game over.
the event is over so now we wait for the results
which event is over now?
Icon contest in like 33 minutes
Third special vote event
Guys, can we please add chatot and exploud? They're some of my favourite pokémon k thanks 
I think every time there's a vote i feel the same way about something on it
I'm at work and haven't submitted my elusive Pokedex entries yet, you almost gave me a heart attack
lol sorry
I worked so hard on my crustle Meachoke haha
On a serious note tho, wish that everyone's happy with the new pokémon added, wish we could add everyone's favourite but that's pretty much impossible
except if your favourite is bellibolt
screw you if it is
Speaking of, I found a wild shiny Tadbulb in Scarlet by complete accident. I was just running out of the city Iono is at when I saw the guy. I paused for a minute thinking "Is that thing shiny?" And sure enough it was.
burn it
those things deserve to be extinct
I wonder if there are people that actually want the Gothita line in the game, for the right reasons
(on a serious note, congrats on the shiny, that was a very hard spot)
Yeah no I had to take a good long look.
Never really cared about gothita myself but having the gothic lolita theme could be interesting to do fusions with ngl
I've finally evolved my Kakuna into a Beedrill in my Nuzlocke.
Man my sister loves Lolita. Dislikes Gothorita but likes Gothitelle.
Yessss exactly my thought! Bodies would probably be Gardevoir line 2
She said Gothorita creeps her out.
Well at least it isn't her least liked Pokémon anymore. That goes to Perrsurker.
Dies from unbased
I wonder why she dislikes it, being fully honest
Anyways what's Brock's level cap?
depends on the difficulty and mode
In Blue
Oh in blue
It's just generally unpleasing to the eye for her is all.
i can check that real quick
Just doesn't like Perrsurker.
14, Mordred
Ok thanks
Oof tough question.
trick question, I can make it cursed anyway
Mr. Mime can make anything cursed
specially in my hands
Either Conkeldurr
Or Barbaracle

real talk though yea barb since it already looks mime-like
Yeah
conkeldurr would work but in a non cursed way
like make conkeldurr into a circus strongman
seismitoad would also be turbo cursed if they leaned into the sound pods
Same goes as Conkeldurr because a clown being ripped is kinda cursed enough.
kinda like mime/machoke currently is
pretty much
Indeed
yeah, I'll do more mimes with the new mons :)
ok that eelektross trevenant goes so hard

you call that eldritch?
Nice sprites
mine is an avatar of Nyarlathotep
I love it
literally
cthulhu is the most well known
Personally I like Nyarlathotep more and I find him even more horrifying
yeah, but i legit prefer the design of Cthulhu over Nyarlathotep
because unlike cthulhu, he understands humans and well, he infiltrated human society
The Black Pharaoh
But i think Azathoth is really "nice" too
until he eepy no more x)
then we die
@humble lance @craggy nexus salazzel color is so bad lol :v
but we have salazzle in the game already
i LOVE this dagger !
see?
whats that

ekans/charmeleon alt
mockup mon is cool
Also, that fusion goes hard, as usual with your spritework
I wonder how you would do buff chatot now
ccollab?
this fusion does not spark joy
my string cheese man
:v why do u want the bird thou
sorry, I had enough ptsd from PokeRogue and SV combined
unironically one of my favourite pokemon of all time
goldengold is busted with contrary
But to be completely honest and not wanting to hurt anyone's feelings
the choices are very solid all around in the vote
I fear for Shiinotic to make it in though
That shroom is an absolute menace
I'm talking moveset wise more like design wise here
and i think people prefer Belroom for fast sporer
yeah but shiinotic is a bit tankier and well, you could add prankster to it
leech seed, spore, synthesis and make your opponent die of cringe
grass type when spore
damn
Like I had a Trevenant/Registeel fusion in showdown that was basically killing people with cringe
more ideas for Tsareena though!
Harvest, Sitrus Berry. Leech Seed, Curse, Substitute and Protect
You literally killed people with cringe
ok I love the honedge one tho
even tho Tsareena is not one of my prefered pokemon, I see the vision
I kinda want to try doing some furfrou or chimecho fusions for potential ideas
:V suddenly Bayo
somebody give me a random pokemon
chatot
do it

one that's in game
buff chimecho
But Shiinotic doesn’t naturally get prankster, so it would have to be fused with something that has it and those options are limited
Meanwhile Amoongus is statistically less tanky, but comes with regenerator, allowing for far more versatility
amogus
I mean yeah but Amoonguss is our ally against incineroar
Shiinotic would kill 80 orphans if it could
im not doing machoke body I can't draw buff people that well
machoke head fusion though...
ayo
fuck man... tsareena all the way (or gourgeist)
what did u just said
its very shrimple
sry, your sprite had me reconsidering switching sides lol
Honestly, if chatot or exploud make it, I will be extremely happy
just from one baddest to another
so u like music
chatot is boring to me ngl
like I get it's aesthetics but as a body mon...
I just like him, not really a reason
vote for monkies
yeah man, especially seeing the potential of salazzle divorced from more unfortunate aspects
buff salazzles be cool and sheeit
I would but I don't want Simisear in the game

Simipour and Simisage, I allow those, they are the cool guys
Simisear can die in a waterfall
he been dong thats jazz hand
It’s unlikely,
The main vote will probably be kommo, it would’ve made last vote but was vetoed, so unless public opinion has drastically changed or another veto occurs, it will be kommo
As for the special vote, for now, it is predicted slurpuff will win, as it provides unburden belly drum and dessert fusions, enticing to both competitive players and spriters. If you wanted to compete with Slurpuff, you would need something just as crazy as Slurpuff that also appeals to both main sets of winner votes
Kommo-o would be fun to do fusions with
specially with the shiny material of its scales
I’m sorry, I say it as it is, as much as I love unova
I do not like kommo-o sorry im a hater but it's design bothers me
Slurpuff... brotha ewww
it's ok
Listen, I want to fuse Kommo-o with a grass type and make him jamaican, man. Is that too much to ask, man?
There is a chance for another veto, and maybe winners will pick things out of left field, but this is how things will likely go
hopefully
hi infamous shakira dragon hater here
EEL?
Eel?
Eelektross
Ngl, Eelektross making it in the game would be based
yeah
Eelektross: electric type with levitate guaranteed (it’s an electric type no matter if it’s a head or body fusion, unlike rotom), eel fusions, and good attack and special attack, also the only electric type to learn acid spray, and the only electric type able to learn bind naturally, and the only electric type to learn acid, and the only electric type to learn coil, and the only electric type to learn crush claw, and the only pure electric type with access to gastro acid, and also the only electric type able to learn headbutt naturally
Tsareena mostly 'cause decent stats and desert fusions w/o slurpuff
I was mentioned in a PowerPoint therefore I am rooting a bit more for eelektross than all the other unova mons, Lilligant is still my #1 tho
I don't like lilligant
I don’t like you
I generally don't like excessively femenine pokémon
But hey, I at least tolerate lilligant more than gardevoir
we have bellossom anyways
Yeah, you like chatot and Exploud. What sort of person says “yes my favorite Pokémon are the noise ones”
Makes more sense for flowers since they are associated with beauty, Garde and Gothitelle are hard to excuse with that logic
My favourite pokemon of all time is Kecleon, I'm silly like that
Like my favourite regional form is Galarian Stunfisk
But Kecleon is already in tho
gothitelle is just weird
agreed
You’re a Gothitelle?
your mother is a gothitelle
I have made a mistake
I’ll let you have that one I walked into it
My favorite pokemon is serperior, is not in if and can't vote. Kinda funny
Gothita and Gothorita went in a nice gothic lolita route, then gothitelle came in and is like expand
Gothitelle is so stupid
Same, i want serp so bad but it’s not available
its a crying shame
Serperior would go so hard for sprites, I'll be completely honest
show ur mistake
Wait isn’t Gothitelle like, super lore heavy or something?
I'm talking design wise, like the dress is actually its entire body
and it has little feets
its the elegant daughter of rayquaza, an already fantastic poke for sprites
TBF they said they aren’t adding the starters to vote because they are aware of their popularity after the last vote and they feel they could do better than a popularity vote to get them in. Same with legends and such
Fuzzy Quetzy
I wanted Xurkitree 
Yeah but that’s a funny subversion from all the other questionable designs gamefreak has made
But then people hated BW and we then got salazzle
ok honestly it just looks like a dick i don't even think I can post it here
I wanted gothorita to evolve into a lil silly thing with a beautiful dress
blur it
AYO
Sprite bingo going steadily
Idk if I could make one of the vote pokemon in here
with a mr.mime
I found it, some psychopath did an entire Google doc on Gothitelle lore, I think the original doc is gone but bits of it are preserved in this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T76drKDMiqw&feature=youtu.be
I couldn’t even tell you half of what that info is, but it’s deeper than just tall
And that’s why gamefreak never put effort into anything ever again
I once finished bingo with 2 empty slot
(kinda impossible for me to finish it)
I appreciate you sharing the link but I just don't care enough about gothitelle 
I’m unova man, I have to rep all the rejects that get slandered so much here
I don’t hate Gothitelle, I just want a million other things first
:v what theme u can give to buff chatot
true
at least it isn't luvdisc or castform
Punk, or a very angry cockatiel
Or it could be a conductor, like from an orchestra
i want buzzwole so bad 😭
BASED
:v hmm, i kinda used those theme alreadyy
honestly most single stage mons for this vote need to be a 0 or 1, it just isn't worth bringing them in when we're only getting two lines [not factoring possible extras]
anyways
like a DnD Bard
Also, I don't like gorebyss
come on yall, of COURSE maractus is on the team, u already knowww
I don't want a bloodthristy and cruel killer on the loose
sound good
fusing her with sableye only makes her crueler
no, it makes her tamer
she will suck ur blood but not without putting in her lipgloss
Fusing gorebyss would dissipate her bloodshed
mosquitoes
wait is palosand in the game i forget
yyes
dope
yep
love that sand castle dude
yeah, palossand is cool
though i feel his fusions for stage 0 & 1 would be extremely similar
An absolute menace to society and one of the most evil pokemon around, but cool
he gets forgiven for eating a pikachu
:v is this a bard ? he does sing
I guess
but bards in DnD also use spells
that is a traditional bard
he is not a minstrel
he needs a little cap
and a little lyre
but i think u already used a lyre?
;v i didnt
With a DnD bard you can do a lot of things
i think u were planning on that, i remember talking about instruments w u
there are bards that go melee with a sword
seducction
a heavy metal bard, some people made those
oh i rember
Gunslinger bards too
have only made 2
Have you used a Mandolin, though?
and limbo
;v i havent
oh ok ;v but will u colllab
yeah
the only collab I've done has been the double regigigas, someone sent me a sketch and I made the sprite so Idk how this collab would go
The collab works with you doing all the work and ntm scamming you
That’s the champ difference
since u already good ,, i would just make the concept and touch up
deal with the devil
Well, he can fight against, Cthulhu, Nyarlathotep and Satan if he wants it
hey would u guys agree that sableye is still considered a new pokemon????
btw did u made marowak + machoke as Goti?
Depends, how long has PIF been around?
I made Alex Terrible if you mean that one
i mean like, in the context of this being new pokemon discussion
I mean, they shut down the channel for 6 months, and sableye was a year ago
I think by this channel’s standards, sableye isn’t new, but speak your piece I’m curious
plug them anyway 
Nope
I don’t see why not, although everyone in this channel already knows sable is in unless a new guy who’s been gone for over a year appears in 3…2…1…
wait sableye is in?!
#1050404143807873157 or #fusions wouod work lul
fusions is perfect i didnt even think of that!
Yeah! You must’ve been making Kecleon sprites nonstop while on do not disturb for a year! There’s a ton you’ve missed!
Tbh I can only see Medichan
But yeah I like the giratina sableye
medicham slays so its a compliment hehe
How? None of the medicham pants are there
Those are like anti-medicham legs
Twigs
Skipping leg day every day
Got them mixed up
Ok I see it now
onion
onio
Also if I’ve got it right this should be the schedule we care about:
Role icon contest closed, awaiting winner (dog days took 6 days to determine winner, give it a week or so for each spriter contest?)
IF singles today in about 3 hours
Emote contest and Elusive Pokédex end in 3 days
And Pokédex entry contest ends in 4 days
Right? Barring the other tournaments which already have listed times on later days
I know normal/flying is overused but isnt that better than pure flying because an extra immunity to ghost is way better than a resistance to fighting?
I think fusions with normal flying types are special in that they always carry over flying, but maybe that was changed in the update that made starters not only carry over their typings (aka: charizard carries over flying too instead of only fire)
Idk I don’t really know the guy, does he like his Gastly smoke in fusions
the normal flying thing still exists
I dont know
So they still only carry over flying or was that changed?
yes only flying
I love it so much but the flat head looks so weird qwq
Ok Ty, then yeah that’s why nobody is picking normal flying types
I was just asking a random non fusion related question lol
I need a idea for the Goat of the day
Then why are you in new Pokémon discussion we’re discussing potential options to be added for fusions
Tried my hand at making a Tsareena/Machomp with some others lol

looke like dragon ball char
anyone wanna use my base?
her on her own (with fixed eyes)
some does
beerus
Beerus does not look like that, I know he has baggy pants but his legs don’t look like that
Yeah I don’t see it tbh, I had to look it up cause I thought it might’ve looked like the Lorax guy from dbs, but yeah I still don’t see it
look alike, ,but not extract 100
It said pokemon discussion so Im discussing about Pokemon
Read description
Also the new part is pretty important
We’re getting another added to the 2nd vote today
Im new so idk where that is
Ooh more options? 👀
Buzzswol+Machamp. Pheremosa+Gothitelle.
the second vote is only for spriters i think
I really hope Crabominable makes it in
I have some nice ideas and I'm a crabominable enjoyer
Man I thought wimpod/golisopod won as one of the pokemon last year
I hope they get into the game this time
clearly it was outside the top 20 the community voted on
No second vote is in announcements, it includes spriters but also dex entry and showdown players
And it’s a vote only done by winners as well
(and you don't necesseraly need to be a sprtier to win an event)
Not exactly, it made it in the spriter only vote (see below) that Lycanroc ended up barely winning
If the second vote were just spriters, it’d be pretty clear cut that Golisopod has extremely good odds of winning this time around, but the opinions of non-spriters may differ drastically, and goliso may not be as popular with the other groups to win the second vote
Or, special vote is a better way to call it since that’s what it is in announcements
Wasnt that like one vote of
I think it was a few, but yes it was insanely close iirc
Damn tbh I would have taken golisopod over the doggie
It wouldn’t be unprecedented, but it’s 1 dev (frog) and he decides what does or doesn’t make it in. It’s his game, he decides what he wants to add, but it wouldn’t be out of place to throw spriters a bone since they clearly want to make sprites of it
Man Gen 7 top 3
I’m just happy unova appeared on the list, even if it were near the bottom
New one is after the tourney
I plan a Chimecho fusion
Tourney starting in like hour and a half, I won’t be able to be there (dnd night) but I assume by the end of the tournament/a little after we learn the next mon
Also icon contest ended, so results for that and that Mon will be in a week or so (if we’re going off of dog days)
And have to make my Goat of the day in 1 hour and 30 minutes if I wont do it I fail myself
Also imagine frog is like
" Welp lets add all the winners favs"
Would be funny
But wont happen
There’s also the issue of “no dupes so lemme pick something like monkeys since somebody else picked my #1 already and I want my #1 to have less competition”
Someone still could do that, xeno almost picked wurmple last time, and this time around it’s a genuine Strat winners could use
True
Ugh man this again
This
I was like ain't no way it's being discussed that much again but nope.
Tropius is great
im glad they finally fixed his 3d model in the new games too
no longer stuck flying
...
as a kid i always took Tropius as the male version of Magenium
and kid is an age
Kid is goofy and empty headed
indeed
Tropius is nice tbh, I liked it as a kid too, mechanically not much but spriters seem to love it
I am Just gonna assume is like a perpetual denial of it not being what people hope it is
If you’re worried about it winning either vote.
It’s not winning the main vote
It has design reasons, but not mechanical ones, meaning it’s unlikely to beat slurpuff in the winner’s votes, who appeals to both competitive and spriting
It's not just them, it's the entire internet I just don't see any criticism of it
appearntly you have some
I do like slurpuff but it's for widely different reasons
i didnt like its 3d model before so thats a critisism
I am Just not as hype about banana Dino, I don't get it
also it being single stage is also boring
That has nothing to do here because this is all 2d
No...
Being single state isn't what's bad about it
And they hope it would evolve like dunsparce but like that ain't happening either
It's always been like a weird one off mon
There is worse
It's just... Like meganium is there with the plan Dino thing
I like gogoat so I am not confused about it nowadays
Tropius tho
Tropius is awesome
Like... If it was competitive cream I would believe but nope
Banana Dino. Is that it? Is that all?
It should have either a good ability or better stats
Do we really need this right now?
Go goat
But it doesn't. That's wishful thinking I can't understand
It simply doesn't, it simply hasn't and it probably won't
Yeah
Anyways, hello again
Gamefreak keeps moving onto other things all the time
Tell me one thing it has no other plant we have in has?
Dancing dino
Venusaur, Meganium and Torterra all deal on nature
I used to have this one too
I always wanted one
Hey 
Leaf wings
Bananas
I think it’s only flying type with leaf tornado or something niche i don’t remember
Mixed up my leaf moves
My b
So many grass type fusion do that with flying it ain't special for this
The fruit sure
But the palm wings eh
You know I played Platinum when I was a kid too. And that thing never fascinated me
Yeah but this naturally brings leaf wings, meaning there’s more potential for fusions with other typings instead of needing to fuse a grass type with a flying type
I was like. Oh cool a weird thing, moving on
But what happens to said wings when fused with another type? Are they still palm wings or just become normal wings?
That’s dependent on the creativity of the spriter. Palm wings on fire when fused with a fire type is one that comes to mind off the bat
It’s also probably dependent on the fusion as well and those design elements
Hmmm alright that's a good point
good tier list, vikavolt is fairly high 
I just feel like questions need to be asked on that one rather than just "OH I REMEBER FROM WHEN I PEED MY PANTS AGE"
Anyways I gtg get ready for dnd, may your #1 choice of Mon be chosen by the winner of the tournament
I like the mechanic geometrical design I also am pro bug types
Except for like... Burmy and vivillion
also new vikavolt propaganda, this is the one i like the most so far that i´ve made
I love when thunder is visible on the mon
@stuck bane NEEDS HIGH CREATIVITY means that to use it you need to think real hard because visualizing it ain't easy
I am Just saying... Tropius can wait
Great job in the electricity
Much like many other mons unfortunately
the only weird thing i your list is the funny aliens, why are they so low?
i think furfrou would be interesting
Gimme a sec I'd get back to you on that
i specially furfrou for the tophat pattern, i like the idea of giving mons tophats
Aw I like the little aliens
okay one hour for the skiddo I wanna make
Can’t wait to see who the simple singles winner picks
I wonder how long those tourneys last
cant wait for some good goat propaganda 
Our best propaganda is that part of our thread
#1213539303876206643 message
||Go Go GoGoat StompStomp StompStompStomp||
But Nyeah, could use furfrou as an excuse to doll up other pokemon i suppose.
... Furret in a wig comes to mind for some reason.
Skiddo is the body
What should be the face?
pawniard
hmm, grubbin for vikavolt propaganda?
should i lock in and make convincing monkey sprites?
ima do it bois
lemme start with cute
Alright imm back what aliens?
Aaaaaaah beeheeyem
Quite frankly... I put it there because I couldn't quite figure out something
Hmmmm... Alright show me
Hmmmm I can see it
Tri color fusions?
from @velvet root
someone did that with necrozma and klinklank
damnit we missing blue
Still 3 colors is nice
Yo imagine 3 different colored light sabers at the same time.
you could add the blue from the pre evo
HEY
Thats not the funal sprite
Thats the final version
I think it has a unique body shape with the hat and the coat, I bet you could do something cool with it
Hey is that amon-
Not gonna put it as high as ease of use, but hey it has uses with thought
Ummm cheese
There is also a UFO and my initials
ZC
and its a slight ref to the moon cubes from mario odyssey
i had that one
Ohhh I took me a second to see the letters, so creative!
sasdly when we moved i forgot to check our basement so the dino was never taken with me
And now its a regional Banette
only robot of my childhod i still have is
Planned fusion for the event!
I search for autogens to inspire myself and found the sickest Goat autogen
The reverse is kinds cool too!
Not if I do it before you
(I won’t)
Any fusion idea I should look at the autogen of?
gogoat and rayquaza
Fantastic!
which routes would skidoo and gogoat be on if they were added? Near rock tunnel?
Hmmmm no there is not right
Gogoat isn't that good
I expect near rock tunnel
Maybe before misty after mt moon
And def on the farm left of fuchsia
AYYYYY LMAOOOOO IT IS BETTER THAN A 3 ITS A 10
I think that we should consider pokemons that specific types need, for example we have lots of great normal types mons but when you want to build a really strong team, then it's lacking. Maybe adding pokemon like Exploud could add more variaty to the most lacking type in my opinion
Cipher has become immune to my gaslighting lol
Have my hidden ability
Immunity
Question have you voted

Also for grass, for fast physical attackers we have only sceptile and leafeon, adding pokemon like Shiftry or leavanny would be really useful
actually it's my first event that i want to participate more but i dont know how to vote
i could use some help
Isnt shifty special
he is actually both 100 physical and 90 special
Also a good mon doesnt mean it gets many sprites
but you catch my drift
Making it a Bad pick potentialy
Alright well. First of all what you voting for? How is lilligant?
Fully non if but wow
considering its stats and look i think it may be in a middle tier,
that has a really good color scheme 
O Kommo-o is quite a good pick i think
And the other half?
Gogoat is nice, Skiddo would be perfect for some cute fusions
I know there are many, many, many aspects of the ideal pokemon to be added but I have quite a specific way of playing rn
So that's why I would like there were more mons that are actually strong but they dont have much epic, cute or disguisting fusions
If you want to see some fusions we also have spread sheets #1213539303876206643 message
Here is the team!
Shuckle @ Mental Herb
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Sticky Web
- Encore
- Final Gambit
Lilligant @ Normalium Z
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Hyper Beam
- Giga Drain
- Sleep Po...
Yeah... I agree
Strong plant princess
Good job
I gave clay a 3, does my Lilli get a 3 or 2
3
I already do it 

Clayclay shall get the high ground
new escavalier propaganda dropped https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1274134479820296193
hello guys so have you heard of the 774th pokemon found in the alola region called minior? it’s pretty cool actually idk just vote for it
ive got a sab for that!! minior propaganda
Jojo is the sableye lady, she has one for nearly everything /jk
i remember seeing that before
A year ago yeah
i lichrally do HEH
Hello Mr done and gone
ive got em all in my trenchcoat and I myself am 3 sableyes stacked on top of each other in said coat
Sableye fused with komala and he's holding a crystal shaped like a bonzai tree
no one likes komala ;-;
funny koala
its actually really interesting how conceptually similar komala and mega sableye are
i will add it to my list
oh it could hold a big log in place of the gem or something
komala has potential, it has the one super good ability thats sleep immune with some other benefit right?
hello chat
Do you have one of these for Malamar, Golisopod, Excadrill or Eelektross?
hit me with propaganda
malamar please please please
y know minior is a pretty cool pokemon with good fusion potential and yeah 👍
it’s also severely underrated…
you want drampa
celesteela please please please
You can use Malamar for cool Eldritch fusions with bioluminescence and I believe he’s the only dark or psychic type to get contrary
Made a lil sumthin sumthinfor sableye

