pif-hoenn-discussion

[molten latch]

Same

[brisk vessel]

I saw what you deleted

[molten latch]

We know

She was once a good friend all the more.

[simple gulch]

ok then , just hope she is fine

[molten latch]

Yeah

We miss her

[simple gulch]

u did?

[brisk vessel]

why did she remove you

[simple gulch]

:v idk

[molten latch]

Wait what

You dont know

But why?

[molten latch]

Atleast give us a reason

[simple gulch]

yeah, i never ask her about it either, but anyways, lets not talk about it

but dont worry we r still in good term

but guess i have to make on hold my 9 collab with her, since we agreed to post them side by side

[molten latch]

Ok

[simple gulch]

:v vote for pant

[humble lance]

pant

[simple gulch]

pant

[molten latch]

https://tenor.com/view/scrafty-pokemon-pokémon-axew-kidnapping-gif-11682153139040908107

Yoint

[simple gulch]

so thats how luxio wear pant

[humble lance]

ye

[simple gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-hot-ones-jennifer-lawrence-hot-ones-gif-6061851644677030250

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-scraggy-pidove-headbutt-hello-gif-17290670

[molten latch]

https://tenor.com/view/scraggy-danca-gif-10689742

Its a pant takeover

[simple gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/scraggy-gif-26563046

[molten latch]

SUS

[simple gulch]

thats official animation

[molten latch]

Indeed, Idk why Pokemon Company make this animation

[simple gulch]

:v they did a lil trollin

[molten latch]

Yeah like Dudunsparce

[humble lance]

jamesbeachepisode.gif

[molten latch]

pokemonpointgun.gif

[simple gulch]

dawnturningintofurry.mp4

oh wait it was serena

[molten latch]

Epic fail

Anyways

Back to Scraggy

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-scraggy-training-jump-gif-17848427334707867793

[sullen elbow]

That's not oficial tho

[molten latch]

We know

[simple gulch]

it wasnt?

i dont know

[molten latch]

Dr. Crafty/MTC Studio made this cool Scrafty Evolution.

[simple gulch]

very edgy

[molten latch]

Indeed

[simple gulch]

he might use pot of greed and draw 2 cards

[molten latch]

But it works because its a punk rock

[humble lance]

pot of greed fusion when

[simple gulch]

what combo

[humble lance]

uhhhhhhhhhhh

bruxish cofagrigus?

[simple gulch]

bruxish galie?

[molten latch]

Maybe Gengar idk

[humble lance]

bruxish lileep might also work

[molten latch]

I see

[humble lance]

or bruxish victreebel

[simple gulch]

weepinbell?

[humble lance]

[inland geyser]

how do you see dying and not sleeping?

[grave jolt]

Evening all

How are the Pachirisu crew doing?

[hot hamlet]

I got won over by pastry dog. Squirrel still in the maybe category

[dim sparrow]

Who is that

[dim sparrow]

I always thought it was spelled "Pachurisu"

[terse fable]

I always thought it was PachEWrisu

[dim sparrow]

Learning it was Pachirisu made me have to pronounce the emphasis differently too lol

[hot hamlet]

Pory's responding to a pic of Mightyena

[inland geyser]

TODAY IS GIGALITH DAY PASS IT ON

[dim sparrow]

Mightyena is not a dog
It's literally a hyena

[simple gulch]

bc no z z z z Z

[dim sparrow]

gigalith is one of the few mons I really dotn want
It's just a boring rock, 3 times

because its a 3 stage line

I think the colors change a bit on evolution but still they're really boring

[hot hamlet]

Nah, just getts bigger geode

[dim sparrow]

The colors are the same?

that makes it impossible to tell the difference for head fusions

[hot hamlet]

I mean heads are different shapes

[simple gulch]

poliwag moment

[hexed agate]

That's Mightyena

[dim sparrow]

Well roggenrola has different colors at least
But for the other 2 you are forced to add the head things

[inland geyser]

Crystals

thats what im ready for

Druddigon same exact colors

not boring to me as a head mon

[hot hamlet]

Very least, you need to differentiate between the section between the eyes being blue or red

[hot hamlet]

Looks like an oni

[humble lance]

two of them

[hexed agate]

even then, the amount of orange should be drastically different

• crystal size ofc

[dim sparrow]

Dragonfruit

[inland geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dragonfruit-eat-sauce-kitten-eating-gif-24483121

Meowth used bite

[dim sparrow]

Nom

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/drampa-pokemon-thinking-confused-gif-22448973

be good, 3 drampa 🙂

[hot hamlet]

Dragrampa

[velvet root]

Reminds me of a bearded dragon

[hot hamlet]

Please tell me the pun was intentional

Because it is amazing

[velvet root]

Yes
Sure
What pun...

[hot hamlet]

The dragon grampa is a bearded dragon

[velvet root]

True

Even tho I meant the druddigon/bulba looking a lil like one

[hot hamlet]

oh whoops. Thought you were responding to the Drampa propaganda

[humble lance]

dangronpa

[hot hamlet]

Dragonronpa

[velvet root]

Hes funny tho

[molten latch]

Anyways

Guess I'm gonna change my tierlist.

[feral bear]

Shes included, she just isnt in the picture 😔

[simple gulch]

smh Mushana slander

[simple gulch]

also what about mandibuzz

girl slay

all the corpses

[feral bear]

Mandibuzz is not on the team sadly she has fleas

[spiral musk]

what about slurpuff? not a girlboss?

she has her own business

[feral bear]

Slurpuff can be a girlboss yes!!! With her sister aromatisse hehe

[stuck bane]

Ooo I don’t think I’ve posted musharna yet, but if she’s on team girlboss I’ll accept it:

Musharna: it’s already an overworld mon, can make dream fusions, floral pattern fusions, and you can get one extremely early since it’s a moon stone evolution, also serves as an amazing head with good hp, special attack, and special defense, only psychic type with access to defense curl, and the only non-legendary psychic type to learn lucky chant naturally

[humble lance]

mushy

[simple gulch]

mushy

look like she has pinkneyes

vote for pant thou, where r the pant fusion???

[stuck bane]

Was not expecting so many musharna sprites already made but it’s a welcome one

[surreal chasm]

SLURPUFF

[stuck bane]

Ok you gotta clarify when you say pant which Mon are you referring to scrafty or lunrantis

[surreal chasm]

SLURPUFF

[simple gulch]

pant is pant

[feral bear]

Erm

Pant

[hexed agate]

I see the Palossand propaganda has moved to Slurpuff

[simple gulch]

lurabtis doesnt wear pant

[stuck bane]

Ok Ty for clarify

[surreal chasm]

I NEED TO MAKE A CAKE PALACE

[stuck bane]

Scrafty: adds more fighting types and dark types, baggy pants fusions, Mohawk fusions, and is a Mon used on ash’s team, only fighting and dark type with access to shed skin, also the only fighting type to naturally get moxie, and good attack/defense/special defense, also the only dark type with access to brick break naturally, and the only dark type head with access to chip away, and the only dark type with access to facade naturally

[simple gulch]

where is the candy kingdom

[hexed agate]

[surreal chasm]

YESSSSSS

[surreal chasm]

SLURPUFFFFFFFFF

[simple gulch]

i will make it say slur

[surreal chasm]

OURRGHH I LOVE TOXICROACK SO MUCH

[humble lance]

slurpuff 🤝 cofagrigus
slurs

[stuck bane]

Slurpuff will have the slurp/uff naming convention:

[surreal chasm]

My croagunk plushie doesn't lie!!!

[simple gulch]

why the coffin?

[stuck bane]

There’s a word inside

Very bad word

[simple gulch]

seem like he worked over time

[stuck bane]

Don’t change your cofagrigus name on black and white you won’t be able to change it back

[simple gulch]

why it has nutty speed and atk

[stuck bane]

Similar to if you delete weedle in I think SM you can’t change it back it has to be wedle

[civic harness]

Hello there

[surreal chasm]

I needddd slurpuff in the game I neeeddd ittt

[simple gulch]

cofferigus

[simple gulch]

seem like it will win

[stuck bane]

Belly drum, sitrus berry, unburden, acrobatics, then play rough and drain punch for coverage

[surreal chasm]

HOORAY

[civic harness]

You need a cake?

[simple gulch]

just from all the cavity

[surreal chasm]

Yes

[stuck bane]

Yes that is exactly the case

[surreal chasm]

I need to make Giratina into a cake

Yall don't get it

[civic harness]

[simple gulch]

with jelly worm tentacles?

[molten latch]

Just gonna blocked you because I dont like that antagonist from persona 4

[simple gulch]

or frosting

[molten latch]

It gives me PTSD

[simple gulch]

big moolar

[civic harness]

Hey Luxio, dont forget to add credits

I love the work of Boo

[simple gulch]

no credit is kil

[civic harness]

So I need to add it

[civic harness]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1273201698210316318

[velvet root]

Greetings

[civic harness]

Hello there Zero

[civic harness]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1272098687690084352

[civic harness]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1272381987432304640

[velvet root]

How is everyone doing
What we talk about

[simple gulch]

:v no more sprite i gave up,… after the rule2 challenge, i still need to make 4 more sprotes

[humble lance]

all the credits will eventually be in my non pif folder

[simple gulch]

crab

[humble lance]

in the process of sorting rn

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/crabominable-pokemon-crab-liberal-gif-1385230762298204206

[stuck bane]

We were talking about musharna then the chat sped up a ton, I think scrafty and Crabominable were in there?

[simple gulch]

what mon will pant replace in if dex mon

[velvet root]

What did i just found in the gif search

[humble lance]

havent decided yet

[simple gulch]

politics

[civic harness]

The BEST for your family

[simple gulch]

what about weavile

[velvet root]

I still like them
Also Crabominable looks less ugly in sprite form

[simple gulch]

it has a bra

[velvet root]

Tell that to Jynx and Nidoqueen

[stuck bane]

Nidoqueen moment?

[simple gulch]

so braboninable is a queen

she slay

@feral bear

[velvet root]

Yeee shes beauty and the beast at the same time

[civic harness]

KAJAJAJAJ

Abominable beauty

[stuck bane]

I’m not part of this

I have nothing to do with this

[velvet root]

Yufika made more concept art and it looks like a Lilo and Stitch experiment

[simple gulch]

its the eye

[civic harness]

Youre still a good investigator

[simple gulch]

not thinking abou it, this also work for pau’ body

[stuck bane]

You give Crabominable one good reason in ice hammer plus a couple others and then it spirals into pissing off one of your Allies in the propaganda wars

[velvet root]

Kinda
Could do a Hula duo

[civic harness]

Im not trying to piss off someone

[velvet root]

Omg its the face who makes it look like that
The nose, eyes etc

[stuck bane]

You’re not, not to mention pinging Jojo

[civic harness]

Oh

[stuck bane]

You’re touching a real hornets nest trying to say Crabominable is a girlboss, considering she just turned down mandibuzz

I’m not part of that

I’m over here

Watching a PowerPoint

[kind forum]

morning chat, i am once again asking for your support

[stuck bane]

I have an alibi

[velvet root]

Beheeyem is a girl boss
Cuz
Yes

[civic harness]

Hello there Gastly

[stuck bane]

Unfortunate no

But still has reasons: great special attack and good special defense, only pure psychic type (head and body) that naturally learns telepathy, also the only pure psychic type that gets analytic, can also bring unique looking alien fusions

[kind forum]

[civic harness]

How did you sleep?

[kind forum]

i didnt really, too hot you doing okay?

[civic harness]

Yes

[feral bear]

She has filled out an application every year and showed up to every meeting, but sadly she has not been approved by the higher ups 😔

[velvet root]

Talking about Girl boss
She is one

[simple gulch]

we need to fight for her debut

[stuck bane]

Golisopod wearing diamond armor from Minecraft?

Golisopod Minecraft diamond armor fusions?

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/georegenotfound-gnf-dream-dream-team-minecraft-gif-22683732

[simple gulch]

regiice

[velvet root]

Golisopod be like

[stuck bane]

||”I heard there were miners here”||

[feral bear]

Golisopod is a soft girl actually

She doesnt respect the grind and thats okay

[velvet root]

[stuck bane]

That makes sense, Wimpod, emergency exit

[simple gulch]

shy girl

[feral bear]

Exactly, shes kinda the soft girl poster child tbh

[simple gulch]

but shy girl cant win mean girls

so she was eliminated

[feral bear]

They can always be converted but its rare. She didnt make the cut sadly 2😔

[kind forum]

ununun

[simple gulch]

what about meostic

[feral bear]

The biggest crime is that beautifly is not on the girlboss poster smh what was i thinkinggggg

[simple gulch]

thats regirock

[feral bear]

Meowstic is girlypop

[kind forum]

true, i see anything regi and just feel the need to ununun

[stuck bane]

But I thought ununun was only rock

[simple gulch]

ün ün ün

[stuck bane]

This is a good point

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/random-gif-15302861858491552517

[stuck bane]

@feral bear permission for Lillipup to be in team Girlboss not as an actual girlboss, but to serve as the puppy in the purse of the girlbosses

[feral bear]

Yes she can be in gorebyss' purse

[stuck bane]

Ok Ty

[feral bear]

Shes girlypop but we let lilligant into the core group so i guess anything is possible lol

Let me stop, before the liligant mafia snipes me from across the street 👀

[stuck bane]

Nah you made Lilligant a core member we’re cool with you

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-cock-gif-26965664

[velvet root]

So you bring it back to Unova?

[stuck bane]

Home. That means back to the house. Imagine if I told gogoat to “go back home to kalos” and tell me what that most sounds like

[hexed agate]

you could get a strong attacker with fake out to abuse normal gem

[velvet root]

It isnt even somewhere in Kanto qwq

Not even as a Overworld sprite

Reminds me
I could change the bike assets to Gogoat

[stuck bane]

This is true but I wanted to include meloetta since she’s OU in IF showdown to prove Slurpuff can be used with it

[hexed agate]

I mean fair

[stuck bane]

I also think Melo gets acrobatics when slurpuff doesn’t

[velvet root]

Nah I meant that it kinds sounds wrong
Goku could say he beings its family to it

[hexed agate]

CC + white herb would also work

[stuck bane]

You don’t know goku then

[deft obsidian]

The chicken hunter

[hexed agate]

[stuck bane]

Do you think goku is out here saying “you Namekians need to go back home to your own planet you’re not welcome here”

Like really is that your argument

The downsides of being mainstream and nobody having watched DB

Anyways

[velvet root]

I solo Goku tho

[stuck bane]

Goku killed a goat once

[velvet root]

I solo him blindfolded

[stuck bane]

He tried sparing it, but the goat wasn’t having it, so he killed him in the dirt

[feral bear]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1273228724426375190 New girlboss propaganda just dropped

[worldly sail]

Goku gets soloed to a needle tbh

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/sweater-marcia-wholesome-gravity-falls-gif-18592343

[stuck bane]

This is true, I didn’t say he was immortal

[velvet root]

I just saw a gif I wish I didnt

[worldly sail]

yeah..same

[stuck bane]

Did it say “remove your votoat from gogoat”?

[worldly sail]

You can remove your votes?

[velvet root]

It was bill cipher showing faces of characters getting... A diglett yes

[stuck bane]

Oh

Oh wow that’s really bad

[velvet root]

Yes

[stuck bane]

Glad I don’t surf gifs then

[velvet root]

Yeah

[deft obsidian]

I think so

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/ciphercore-bill-cipher-among-us-sus-sussy-gif-23085408

But i found that too

[stuck bane]

I would ask who do we propaganda next, but I think we know where that will go

[velvet root]

You can change them yes

[velvet root]

Go... Lisopod

[stuck bane]

I still think team GoGo would’ve been an amazing name/slogan for you instead of GG

cause gogo makes you think like, go vote, and GG makes it seem like “good game I accept my fate”

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

Its GoGo
What you talk about

I dont act like I ever called it gg

Naaah

[stuck bane]

Hold up

[velvet root]

(GoGo is great ngl)

Also it reminds people of GoGo Gadget

[stuck bane]

@velvet root I have receipts

[deft obsidian]

Btw what is this screenshot you post? Is this in game? (I reraly played IF)

[stuck bane]

You can choose not to believe me, but that is a real screenshot frog himself made

[civic harness]

And how did you get it? He just post it here before?

[stuck bane]

||(it was from a dragonball April fools game of IF he made where Petilil is still around)||

[velvet root]

Cant remember that at all

[civic harness]

Epic

[stuck bane]

So that’s how I got both the screenshots

[deft obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-shocked-wwe-gif-11948661

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-thats-twisted-twist-gif-13024562

[stuck bane]

“You did kill petilil, frogman, but not in every timeline”

Then I just kinda posed goku to be in good screenshot range and there ya go

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-goat-black-eye-gif-17526489

https://tenor.com/view/baby-goat-goat-murder-evil-goat-goat-gif-25598026

[civic harness]

Gogoat/Mimikyu

Or Skiddo

[velvet root]

True

[deft obsidian]

Skiddo/mewtwo

[civic harness]

It works too

[velvet root]

Or Goat/Marshadow
Cuz it stands around creepy and emotionless

[velvet root]

Teue

[civic harness]

They use Marshadow for only fumos

Or warriors

[velvet root]

Sadly I already work on Gotwo

[civic harness]

So... Mimikyu?

[velvet root]

Maybe

[hexed agate]

finally, someone who's down with the Clamperl agenda

[stuck bane]

It has been, Clamperl and gorebyss are on the propaganda poster of team girlboss:

[worldly sail]

I can't tell what the top right and left are

[stuck bane]

Top left: Florges

Top right: Clamperl (face inside the shell)

[prime dust]

you know that reminded me, the tierlist thing we have linked doesn't have all the mons in the vote

pretty sure it is missing comfey and the clampearl line at minimum

[stuck bane]

Yeah, clamperl was missing last time, it’d be nice if someone remade it

Not including legends or mons already in, just for ease of use

[night remnant]

Zeraora is one of my all time favorite, so it would be really nice to see in the game

[prime dust]

also the last time we had starters in a vote it uh

yeah

[deft trout]

Chespin deserves it

Anyways
Vote Seismitoad

[sturdy frost]

Yeah the top spots all being starters is why it was excluded this time

poor others stood no chance

[civic harness]

Classic Greninja attack

[velvet root]

I hope we get a trio this time tbh

[sturdy frost]

Naaaaaah relicanth, torkoal, numel, clampearl for life. (I guess clampearl kinda is a 3 line)

[velvet root]

Clampearl is sadly not one of my top pics

But the rest is a big agree

[sturdy frost]

Not everyone can have immaculate taste in pokemon /j

[velvet root]

Ik
Team GoGo moment...

[civic harness]

What type of taste?

[hexed agate]

Tbf, when you offer 3 distinct well liked lines per vote, it becomes hard not to vote for them

9 new sprites and Pokémon people like

[civic harness]

Greninja

[hexed agate]

Vs. the dilemma of either more sprites bust less people, or single sprite mons

[civic harness]

Anyways, Pory, what do you think about the fact that only one pokemon or line can do it in the two votes of this month?

Its seems that Pory is not here anymore

Oh well

[prime dust]

i'm really hoping people are smart and don't push for a single mon to win the vote, i feel like that is such a waste for something like this

so far the other side has chosen 2 stage mons which im fine with [would prefer 3 but]

[civic harness]

The problem is that are users that dont read the chats and still voting without info

[prime dust]

yeah

[hexed agate]

so by your logic, you're an avid monkey supporter

[prime dust]

i get that there are some single stage mons that might be good picks but that is better left for a big vote when we get more than 2 lines

[prime dust]

no, monkeys stay at 0

[hexed agate]

I'd like more, but it's better than none

Wormadam is a cool bug and is worth 5 slots

[civic harness]

Well, some manager say that we need to wait for more info about the votes so...

[hexed agate]

mayhaps

[prime dust]

this is what my current voting looks like [minus the few mons not on this tierlist but are featured in the vote]

[civic harness]

You dont like Abominable Claw Cakes I see

[prime dust]

yeah they don't really interest me

[civic harness]

But you like boss girls I see

[hexed agate]

Zangoose and Seviper are honestly overhyped in my opinion, but it's not like I don't see what people like in them

love the Croagunk and Swadloon placement though

[silent acorn]

I like Clawitzer but I can't stand for crabominable sorrs

[civic harness]

At least 1 point for charity

[silk narwhal]

Hello fellas

[silent acorn]

Fusions in between could be crazy, they have very different palettes on the same vote. Personally I'd like to have Furfrou more, but if Zangoose or Seviper get in I wouldn't mind and id be happy

[silk narwhal]

I have decided to make some sprites for the elusive pokedex event

[silent acorn]

Give the goose and sevi one charity point

[silk narwhal]

I don't think I'll be making many tho

[hexed agate]

Zangoose's palette is meh, but Seviper's is cool

[silk narwhal]

I don't have a lot of time lately

[silent acorn]

Good luck Rick

[hexed agate]

also free blade to use in spriting

[silk narwhal]

Thanks man

[silent acorn]

It's pure white as opposed to Amoomguss grey

[silk narwhal]

There might or might not be some old concepts i can still use if i can find them

[hexed agate]

use Vigoroth

[civic harness]

Zangoose usually is choose because they want a duo with Seviper

[silent acorn]

Actually even better... Red

[hexed agate]

I mean, I like the red accents, but not worth an entire slot imo

I'd rather have something like Wormadam

[civic harness]

I already do it when I vote

[silent acorn]

Actually right except this one evolves and like why would you keep vigoroth when you can have slaking without truant

[civic harness]

Dont make call the competitive guys /j

[silent acorn]

then again it has potential for this

[silent acorn]

400 something vs 600 something is this even a question?

[civic harness]

[unkempt kernel]

For Serviper, i hope theres a sprite of a fusion using the snake tail as a blade or smth, or like, one arm is just a serviper

[hexed agate]

Relicanth actually has a really cool design for fusions (if you like maps)

[hexed agate]

most definitely will be

[silent acorn]

We playing digimon now XD

Power Rangers SENTAI fusion

[unkempt kernel]

Yes, not like theres, a million digimon sprites

[silent acorn]

Fair

[unkempt kernel]

Trying to remember which Megazord has a snake zord, i think Hyper force (A table top rpg stream set after timeforce) did with its green ranger

[silent acorn]

minimum effort zangoose

[silent acorn]

There was one with A table top? Cool!

[unkempt kernel]

Yeah it was streamed on Twitch and featured youtubers like Christina Vee etc

[silent acorn]

Ah homebrew I dunno who that is

[unkempt kernel]

Also Serviper + Bisharp could make this from kamen Rider Build (Blood Stalk. Really need to do that toku run but im waiting for a sprite)

[unkempt kernel]

She voices Marionette from Miraculous

[silent acorn]

I feel like people really underestimate the Mongoose

[unkempt kernel]

And did the english cover for Bad Apple

[silent acorn]

Ah that lady I do know

[unkempt kernel]

Yeah she was in a PR thing lol as the black ranger

[silent acorn]

Kurostina Deez

[unkempt kernel]

Anyway thats off topic, have a squirrel

[silent acorn]

here have a biblically accurate Zangoose fusion

That moment when they have the same BST yet one is more specialized

[civic harness]

Hey Quan, did you make some propaganda for the prevo?

[silent acorn]

That moment when , Zangoose doesn't need Eviolite

what a good move dude

[prime dust]

wrong channel

[silent acorn]

This is discussing Zangoose mordrid

It's a new mon, it's moves are a feature of it

[civic harness]

It count if is about new pokemon

[silent acorn]

It's crazy this is the physical equivalent of Stored Power and yet has less distribution

Hone claws fury swipes are moves a lot of people combo since they synergize very well

it's crazy how few pokemon get crush claw

It'd be fun Serene Grace, Normal Stab on crush claw

[hexed agate]

true

Zangoose/Pirouette wouldn't be bad

[silent acorn]

Since you would also be using Power Trip to take out ghosts i think it works out great

Like gain boosts and use that extra oomph agaisnt ghosts or tanky types

[finite reef]

It also means you can't really touch ghosts without prior setup

[silent acorn]

Piruette/Zangoose more like, since Piruette would need to be head for max optimization

[silent acorn]

So? In competitive is not like people aren't gonna try to figure out what you using with protect

[hexed agate]

really? I thought Pirou was faster and stronger

[silent acorn]

Ah piruette has inverse. Maybe I am getting regular twisted

[finite reef]

Protect isnt that common in singles
Pirouette should be body

[hexed agate]

yeah

[silent acorn]

Yeah you are right

[hexed agate]

especially as it lets you keep fighting

[silent acorn]

Sorry screw up on me.

Actually what difference does piruette have besides stats?

[finite reef]

Compared to what?

[silent acorn]

To regular

[finite reef]

Different stats and typing, regular is Normal/Psychic

[silent acorn]

Piruette was fighting I think right?

[finite reef]

Just saw this, nobody is using Fury Swipes under any context

[silent acorn]

Hmmm gotta use showdown to see

[silent acorn]

I am Just saying it's a synergy not the only one tho

I heard people used hone claws on purugly to beef up hypnosis

Like if you have the chance to miss with a move Hone claws helps

[spiral island]

Ok, that looks pretty cool and makes me think of a Typhlosion fusion with H. Zoroark

[white meadow]

I just realized i'm still in the treasure hunt reveal server

[placid pelican]

No one thinks about the real synergies:(

Body press with everything

Lets get the most defense no one has ever seen and slap bodypress

[silent acorn]

Can't have it since it is Gen 8

Like I love moves dependant on stats but... Why does gamefreak only learn to make them 4 generations later? Even though they had stuff like psyshock forever

[placid pelican]

Showdown

Showdown can slap moves "fusion only" so body press is a good option

[silent acorn]

God why must you do this to me

Well anyway showdown also has insurgence and like weird crap

this is 100 uranium

Delta, so like.... We can fuse them?

[rugged temple]

Been hunting for a second job so not yet

[spiral island]

Wait, you can fuse Nuclear Pokemon from Uranium?

[stuck bane]

In showdown only I think, they’re basically a showdown for multiple fan games iirc

[clear lichen]

Yes, Pokeathalon has multiple fangames in it

As well as custom fakemons if my memory serves me correct

Infinite Fusion is either the 3rd or 4th fangame to be included

I cant remember if there was another one lmao

[velvet root]

Funny enough you can even use the fakemon for fusions

[silent acorn]

Yes. It's very balanced

[odd hamlet]

Does anyone voted 3/3 on Conkeldurr?

[merry shale]

Are Galarian and Hisuian Pokemon added?
And how about Paldean Pokemon?

[prisma willow]

Why does it have those weird veins?

Also justice for the Celedon City Petil!

[marble meadow]

u really want this to exist

[hexed agate]

I did

[stuck bane]

Me

[stuck bane]

Fucking hell yeah I want that in

It’s so funny

Also if you need more convincing:

Conkeldurr: adds more fighting types, wood, steel, and concrete fusions, only fighting type to naturally get sheer force, also brings a great attack stat with good defense and hp, and the only pure fighting type to learn chip away naturally

[stuck bane]

No, see pins

[marble meadow]

litwick should make him holding wax candles or something spooky beastly

[stuck bane]

I can tell you if he’s fused with lampent he’ll just be dual wielding lamp posts

[prisma willow]

But it's ugly though. Why does it have those weird veins?

[marble meadow]

anyway this week i take a break from if but before the next mon gets added i want to do and finish a omastar run

[stuck bane]

Why does castform have honkers? Gamefreak is why

[marble meadow]

oh omastar and malamar would be perfect for an eldrich horror fusion

[prisma willow]

Listen, I don't feel I'm asking for much when I say I don't want my pokemon to have spider veins.

[clear lichen]

The entire National Dex should be in Pokeathalon

[stuck bane]

That’s fine

But also unova was done dirty last vote so I’ll take whatever I can get, be it conkeldurr or Lilligant

[marble meadow]

true

[marble meadow]

liligant pre evo should be quick cuz overworld sprite

[stuck bane]

Not anymore, it was removed, that’s why we want justice for it

[prisma willow]

It is a cruel thing to have a Pokemon be an overworld sprite but not be catchable in game

[marble meadow]

oh i see did,nt notice i never go in houses

[molten latch]

Here's my Tietlist (Final)

There are mons that I've voted 3 and some that I've voted 0

[stuck bane]

1 row of unova in S is acceptable

[molten latch]

Indeed

Some Unova mons didn't make it like Bouffalant

[unkempt kernel]

Why are the unova monkeys so high?

[prisma willow]

You can fuse Liligant with physical attacking mon with no problem because it knows Petal Blizzard in addition to Petal Dance.

[molten latch]

Because its a surprise

[stuck bane]

What unova Mons do you need convincing on bumping up

[molten latch]

Oh well I've my mons in regional order

[stuck bane]

Cause I’m not showing the 10 lists of reasons

[molten latch]

Not by how high or low

[stuck bane]

For everything in F

[molten latch]

I see

[stuck bane]

May as well start off with Bouffalant: Afro fusions, only normal type to naturally learn reckless, only normal type body with natural access to sap sipper, and good attack, hp, defense, and special defense, and gets the unique move head charge which is double edge with less recoil

[molten latch]

I put Braviary high because America

[prisma willow]

To be fair, while I do like a good deal of Unova Pokemon, I just really want Liligant in so I'm hyper focusing on her.

[molten latch]

I see

Indeed

I put Lilligant high to make yoh feel happy

Imagine fusing it with Murkrow

For a Touhou reference

[clear lichen]

Let me guess

Uhhhhhhhhh

Utsuho Reiuji?

[molten latch]

On Rei's PFP

[clear lichen]

Eyyy

[stuck bane]

Lilligant is probably also my biggest want, it deserves it so badly

I’m only also rooting for Eelektross because I was mentioned in a power point

And then team unova and team girlboss obv, but Lilligant is at the top

[molten latch]

Correct

[stuck bane]

Lilligant: it WAS an overworld Mon, adds more grass types, it’s counterpart is already in the game, good special attack and speed, only pure grass type that gets own tempo (for grass type head and body fusions), and it also learns petal dance unlike ludicolo, and is the only pure grass type with access to entrainment, Lilligant also has the highest special attack of any pure grass type that can learn petal dance

[clear lichen]

Does Lilligant have Quiver Dance yet?

[prisma willow]

Eh... I don't really see it.

[clear lichen]

I know Oricorio doesn't

I think Oricorio only got QD in Gen 9

[prisma willow]

Yes, it is actually the Pokemon that learns quiver dance the earliest.

[stuck bane]

Ooo that’s another good reason

[clear lichen]

Quiver Dance is instantly a massive boon for any Pokemon

That's why I hyperfixated on it

[molten latch]

Anyways

[clear lichen]

It isn't the only Grass to learn Quiver Dance, since Bellossom also learns it in Gen 7

[prisma willow]

I see more Yuuka, Hina, and the Aki sisters more as references.

[clear lichen]

Gen 7 is actually the first generation it learns Quiver Dance

[molten latch]

Ah I see

[clear lichen]

Bellossom I mean

[prisma willow]

It is one of two grass types that learn quiver dance and also one of two non-bug type Pokemon that learn it.

[unkempt kernel]

Going off bad apple i'd assume they're the 3 playing the instruments

[stuck bane]

Ok I actually can’t use the quiver dance argument since some Pokémon learn it at level 1 and buying earlier level up moves is very easy

[clear lichen]

Oricorio doesn't have Quiver Dance yet so I can't dispute it

[clear lichen]

You can use the argument of the undisputed best Quiver Dance user being evolved at level 59

So your competition until then are the likes of Masquerain and Butterfree

Except Butterfree doesn't learn it at level 1

Masquerain and Wormadam

[stuck bane]

Yeah but that doesn’t really apply to Lilligant, Veno learns it at level 1 too

[clear lichen]

And Mothim

Venomoth is actually competition

That isn't fully incompetent

[stuck bane]

Same speed too

[clear lichen]

Because Tinted Lens is funny

Tinted Lens is such a peak ability

[prisma willow]

Yuuka is the green haired sunflower lady with the red dress and umbrella. Hina is the green haired misfortune goddess with the red ribbons. The Aki sisters are a pair of harvest goddess with blonde hair and dress in orange.

[next sapphire]

I don't like shorts

I roam bear

[unkempt kernel]

Tbh only characters i can remember are Reimu, Sakuya, Flandre, Cirno

[clear lichen]

Tbh whatever characters I remember at the given moment is completely random

[molten latch]

Alice and the pink hair girl is a good one.

[acoustic tartan]

a remainder for yall to give scraggy line a 3

https://tenor.com/view/scraggy-danca-gif-10689742

[molten latch]

Indeed

Le pant

[stuck bane]

Scrafty: adds more fighting types and dark types, baggy pants fusions, Mohawk fusions, and is a Mon used on ash’s team, only fighting and dark type with access to shed skin, also the only fighting type to naturally get moxie, and good attack/defense/special defense, also the only dark type with access to brick break naturally, and the only dark type head with access to chip away, and the only dark type with access to facade naturally

Moxie is HUGE tho

[acoustic tartan]

fr

[molten latch]

Courage, have you even been on Smogon?

[stuck bane]

Not really, beyond looking at a few reviews

[molten latch]

I see

[clear lichen]

Does Scrafty get Dragon Dance yet?

I'm pretty sure it gets Dragon Dance

I'm not sure if it does in Gen 7

[acoustic tartan]

yes

[prisma willow]

While I like Scrafty, it's not enough for me to give him a 3 and risk Liligant not getting in

[stuck bane]

I just gathered this data from looking at Pokémon database Gen 7 learn set and comparing it with serebii to see what reasons I could find

[clear lichen]

I'm voting whatever I want to vote a 3 for with a 3 without any regard for how it lowers the chance of the upper end of 3 getting in

Simply because why not

[molten latch]

Indeed

[stuck bane]

It does get dragon dance in gen 7 as an egg move

[molten latch]

Surprisingly, I puy Audino in 3 for some no reason

[stuck bane]

Audino has reasons 1s

[molten latch]

Maybe because of the magical girl aspect?

[stuck bane]

Audino: good hp, and the only normal type with access to regenerator (bulky normal ghost with regenerator?), also the only pure normal type with access to Misty terrain

[molten latch]

Nice

Is it good for double battles

[stuck bane]

Idk I just look at the unique aspects idk anything competitive really

[clear lichen]

I will never understand Mega Audino losing Regenerator

Why

Just why

[acoustic tartan]

this hits hard af

no flying stab tho

[molten latch]

Ouch

[clear lichen]

Sometimes I wonder why Scrafty only has 90 attack but then has 115 defences

And then only 65 HP

[stuck bane]

It’s tough out in the unova streets

[clear lichen]

A bit weird since it's a Fighting type

[sharp nebula]

lilligant
thank you for your time

[stuck bane]

Gotta stay on guard, defenses up

SHES BACK

[clear lichen]

And it isn't exactly a special attacker, with that 45 speed

I'd kinda expect at least 100 attack from a fully evolve fighting type

And preferably more since Fighting is the physical attacking type

[prisma willow]

Sometimes I wonder why they keep making ice type Pokemon tanky and slow when it's one of the worst defensive types in the game.

[acoustic tartan]

yes, his gangster theme and his stats dont match

[clear lichen]

The average attack stat for Fighting is about 120

(Fully evolved)

I'm pretty sure including NFEs lowers it to about 100

So Scrafty is far below the Fighting Type Average

But it does have high defences and Dragon Dance

And I love using bulky set up sweepers

[prisma willow]

When they should make them glass cannons like Weavile and Froslass since they're an amazing offensive type.

[clear lichen]

So I wouldn't be against it

[clear lichen]

Ice is an amazing offensive type but those 2 are like some of the only Ice types that are actually fast glass cannons

[prisma willow]

?

[clear lichen]

Actually Froslass doesn't even count as a glass cannon

It isn't very cannon with 80 offences

Fighting has less problems with that sort of thing than Ice does

[acoustic tartan]

typing is good tho

[clear lichen]

Fighting also has yknow

An existent defensive profile

[stuck bane]

Melo supremacy was a HUGE person from the old days of the vote, many say she helped will meloetta into existence (after xeno made it possible)

So a Lilligant endorsement when she mostly led the charge for meloetta is really big

[clear lichen]

Probably worse offensively overall

[celest bobcat]

New Pokemon Discussion is back?
Is there a new Pokemon?

[clear lichen]

No it's just voting rn

[stuck bane]

2 lines, 1 main vote and 1 special vote

• Tourney #1 Infinite Fusion Random Battles: Wingull / Pelliper
• Dog Days Winner: Swirlix / Slurpuff
• Role icon contest: TBD
• Emote Contest : TBD
• Elusive Pokedex Event: TBD
• Dex Entry Contest #2 : TBD
• Speed Spriter Contest : TBD
• Tourney #2 IF Singles : TBD
• Tourney #3 Gen Lock : TBD
• Concept Art Contest : TBD
• Tourney #4 IF Doubles : TBD
• Tourney #5 Big Boss : TBD
• Tourney #6 Monotype: TBD

[celest bobcat]

Wait I willed Melo into existence
Lol

[stuck bane]

Fixed it my apologies

[celest bobcat]

Ooo Swirlix is back on the table

[stuck bane]

Yeah, same guy too, datorre, slurpuff would be a nice one

[celest bobcat]

Cotton Candy dog hmm
Such a pastel color scheme

[prisma willow]

Eh, it's not that cake mon from galar.

[clear lichen]

Alcremie legally cannot exist rn

And also, if you've ever made a Pokemon tierlist

You'll know how many forms Alcremie has

And idt anyone wants to sprite that many

[celest bobcat]

And Alcreamie would lead to cursed fusions. As cursed as Miltank's

[stuck bane]

Ye but that’s not possible here so we’ll accept Slurpuff (I would prefer alcremie if I had a choice tho)

[chrome belfry]

What pokemon will probably be added?

[clear lichen]

There are so many alcremie forms that the Galar section of the tierlist is easily the largest

[prisma willow]

Would it though? Would it really?

[stuck bane]

These things are really hard to predict, so don’t take this as fact, but likely ones are kommo-o, archeops, or Golisopod (based on previous vote data), but again opinions wildly fluctuate and it’s been like a year

[celest bobcat]

I'm thinking Staraptor and Watchog

[stuck bane]

Watchog!!

Watchog: meerkat fusions, only normal type that gets access to illuminate (combo it with scyther for STAB false swipes with double chances of finding wild Pokémon, in addition to watchogs great level up movepool of confuse ray, sand attack, hypnosis, super fang, mean look, etc.), also has an early level up at level 20 (can be obtained directly after Brock on hard mode with level caps), also brings the names Mr. Hog and Mr. Rat, and the only normal type to naturally learn low kick, and the only pure normal type to learn mean look (see normal ghost wonder guard mean look baton pass strats)

[clear lichen]

Alcremie has 63 forms

[chrome belfry]

out of the three I would like golisopod best

[celest bobcat]

Wow you were prepared for that moment Lol

[clear lichen]

For reference, Unown has 28 forms

[stuck bane]

I got these for all unova mons (except starters), ask and you shall receive

[celest bobcat]

Do you think the elemental monkeys would come as a trio?

[stuck bane]

Yes

Prob a triple fusion too

[clear lichen]

I need to vent about having to move every single fucking Alcremie form in the tierlist somehow

[celest bobcat]

So we can get 6 pokemon with 1 vote

[stuck bane]

Yes

1s I’m casting wall of text

[celest bobcat]

Simisage would make a nice base tbh

[stuck bane]

Elemental monkeys: would make a hilarious prank if your system date says April 1st your starters are always these guys no matter what settings you’re playing on, other than that they’re kinda underrated, simipour has been a surprising champion of multiple nuzlockes, all 3 bring good speed, attack, and special attack, simisage is the only grass type to naturally get gluttony, and simipour is the only water type to get gluttony, and they could potentially bring a triple fusion, simisage is also the only pure grass type with access to acrobatics naturally, and the only pure grass type with access to fling naturally, and the only grass type able to learn grass knot naturally, and the only grass type able to learn recycle naturally, and the only pure grass type able to learn scratch, and the only pure grass type able to learn torment naturally, and the only pure grass type with access to fury swipes, and the only pure grass type with access to lick, simisear is also the only pure fire type with access to acrobatics, and the only fire type with access to fling naturally, and the only pure fire type with access to natural gift naturally, and the only fire type with access to play nice, and the only fire type with access to recycle naturally, and the only pure fire type with access to scratch, simipour is also the only water type with access to acrobatics naturally, and the only water type with access to fling naturally, the only pure water type with access to natural gift naturally, and the only water type with access to recycle naturally, and the only pure water type with access to lick, and is also the only Pokémon besides Volcanion able to learn scald naturally

[clear lichen]

Does anyone want to see a stupid analysis I made partially as a joke (non Pokemon related)

[prisma willow]

The problem is that they're early game Pokemon

[clear lichen]

(I'd post it in #off-topic )

[stuck bane]

Simipour has championed a few BW nuzlockes, but yeah there’s better options

[celest bobcat]

Wrumple brings 5 pokemon

[stuck bane]

Burmy also brings 7

[celest bobcat]

Oooo Moths

[stuck bane]

(As far as we know, if burmy needs forms to still determine what it evolves into)

[celest bobcat]

What pokemon ends with -Ra?

We can make a fusion called Mothra

[prisma willow]

looks at Volcarona

[stuck bane]

No he means like the name mothra

[prisma willow]

We already have mothra though

[stuck bane]

Oh we do?

[celest bobcat]

I mean it makes sense

Mothra is a famous monster

[stuck bane]

Oh wait Abra I’m dumb

[celest bobcat]

Oooo

[clear lichen]

Screw it I'm posting the random off topic analysis

[prisma willow]

I'm pretty sure we have a pair of Volcarona fusions that are classic and legendary mothra

[clear lichen]

In #off-topic obviously

[celest bobcat]

What would Audino bring to IF?

[clear lichen]

Regenerator on a Normal type

[prisma willow]

And Dustox is just a worse Venomoth.

[stuck bane]

I gotchu

Audino: good hp, and the only normal type with access to regenerator (bulky normal ghost with regenerator?), also the only pure normal type with access to Misty terrain

[clear lichen]

It also has a decent movepool

[celest bobcat]

Thanks
Thinking of what would be the worst one to add tbh

...
Luvdisc?

[stuck bane]

1s

I put a luvdisc comparison with Alomomola

Alomomola: one of the highest hp stats in the game with access to regenerator, and the only water type with access to healer, and is the only water type that can learn healing wish
(Luvdisc Comparison):
Only water type with access to heart stamp, and luv/disc named fusions

[celest bobcat]

Ooo no
I got it

[stuck bane]

So far luvdisc has the least mechanical reasons besides silvally who is budget arceus with 0

[prisma willow]

Luvdisc exists solely to provide the player with heart scales in gen 3

[clear lichen]

I'd argue Silvally has more mechanical reasons

[celest bobcat]

I think Plusle and Minunb might be the worst choice due to how similar they are in design

At least Luvdisc can be used to make Valentine fusions

[clear lichen]

It's actually a functional Pokemon

Luvdisc on the other hand is not

[stuck bane]

Name 1 arceus doesn’t get I’ve tried, it only got buffed in Gen 8

[clear lichen]

And of course Arceus is better than it

But if we ranked things based on how much Arceus outclasses them half the dex would be worth jack shit

[stuck bane]

It literally, literally, has nothing it can do that arceus can’t

0 nada

I’ve tried

[clear lichen]

A lot of Pokemon can say the same

[stuck bane]

Nothing from unova can at least, they ALL have reasons

[celest bobcat]

It can be obtained without catching

[clear lichen]

Arceus' movepool is wide and it has every type at its disposal

A lot of Pokemon would get negated by it

[stuck bane]

Depends on how frog implements it

If

[clear lichen]

Unless you have some extremely niche situation like idk using Barrage

Idk when you'd use Barrage but hey

Technically Arceus can't do that

[celest bobcat]

I say give it for free and feel the pain of having to use Discount Arceus instead of the real one Lol

[clear lichen]

Also you aren't exactly gonna be finding Arceus in the tall grass

[stuck bane]

Randomized mode

[clear lichen]

You probably can only get one outside of Randomisers

Same probably goes for Silvally but hey

[stuck bane]

I think there’s a shedinja dupe in game, but yeah you’re prob right

[clear lichen]

Luvdisc on the other hand would add Swift Swim at the cost of removing every other stat you have

[celest bobcat]

Would Volbeat and Illumise be a good Mon? You'd get Tail Glow yes but you'd still be a bug type they're pure bug only right?

[molten latch]

Hello Xenophacilus. Long time again.

[clear lichen]

Yeah they're pure Bug

[stuck bane]

Yes they’re both only bug

[celest bobcat]

Hallo

[clear lichen]

Using them for only Tail Glow is probably a bad idea but hey it'd work better than other things probably

[molten latch]

What are you guys talking?

[clear lichen]

They also have Prankster

Which is nice

[celest bobcat]

Pros and cons of new pokemon

[stuck bane]

Anyways I gtg, if you need info on a unova reject just @ me or DM me if you don’t want to swim through an entire sea of discussion

[clear lichen]

Idk why Reshiram gets Tail Glow as a fusion move

[celest bobcat]

Like the pros of Luvdisc being added into the game...

Heart themed pokemon

[clear lichen]

And Zekrom doesn't get like idk Shift Gear

[molten latch]

Okie

[clear lichen]

Zekrom also gets Tail Glow but it benefits a lot less out of it than Reshiram

[molten latch]

https://tenor.com/view/maractus-pokemon-anime-hi-look-gif-22368298

Oh look a Maractus

[clear lichen]

Tbf Reshiram getting Tail Glow in the first place, while thematic, is a wee bit unbalanced

[celest bobcat]

Hello Maractus

[clear lichen]

Oh look a Maractus

I wasn't even trying to repeat what you said that was literally the first phrase that came to my mind

[celest bobcat]

The pokemon everyone thought would be cut in Sw/Sh

[clear lichen]

:/

[molten latch]

Yeah

Both Sw/Sh and S/V are banned generations for now.

Because we cant go further to the fusions sadly

[celest bobcat]

Wonder if I should participate in these events and try to get a slot to get a Pokemon I want in again...
Or would there be a bias to not vote for my Mon since I won the raffle last time?

[molten latch]

Well you can just dont tell

[celest bobcat]

They will know who submitted the mon

[molten latch]

Only the mods buy never everyone.

Unless fine then. Lets say everyone can see it.

[celest bobcat]

The winner of the events submits the new mons for voting

[molten latch]

Ye

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/wimpod-wednesday-gif-22971655

[molten latch]

https://tenor.com/view/golisopod-evil-evil-smile-gif-19275451

[pallid talon]

Can't go further to the fusions?

[weak trellis]

we can with alts but only sprites at most

[molten latch]

From Gen 8 and 9

Sadly we will never gonna see some other pokemon like Hatterene or Tinkaton.

[pallid talon]

Is it like legal reasons?

[stuck bane]

Code reasons, until someone figures it out all Gen 8+ mons have to be added manually which takes forever

[pallid talon]

Ah ok.

[stuck bane]

Also fair warning, it’s not a raffle like last time, each of the 12 winners vote on the listed mons (can’t vote for their own) and whoever wins that vote gets in the game

Not impossible for a meme pick to win, but far less likely

[silent acorn]

... I am the biggest victim here

I got robbed

[stuck bane]

Which did you want?

[silent acorn]

of this...

[molten latch]

So Beautiful

[silent acorn]

[molten latch]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-game-pink-pokemon-tinkaton-pokemon-café-remix-pk-pokemon-café-remix-gif-14202100788577392824

[stuck bane]

I am a firm believer that Gen 8+ is non-canon (the next canon installment was palworld) but hatterene and Alcremie would’ve been nice to have (tinkaton too)

[molten latch]

I will never gonna see this Bonker Goober

[silent acorn]

GOD WHY

[silent acorn]

We have a head and body design for It...snifff

The Lilligang is inmortal we shall raise until our demand is met!

[stuck bane]

I mean..

If we assume we get like 10 slots per year (2 from this every year and then other holidays like Halloween Christmas and new years)

Let’s say 5 lines per year

66ish lines missing, round up to 70

70/5=14 years

Then maybe frog decides to manually add a Pokémon per year (or more likely somebody figures out the code to add Gen 8+ up to Gen 14 or 15 or whatever we’re at at the time)

[deft obsidian]

I doubt if they add more legend, mythical maybe but they said there is too much box legendary, and all of them have low sprite(except ho oh)

[inland jewel]

I like to remind people that if people do make the time to get the code for gen 8-9 and make it IF friendly, then Frogman may add their choice of mon

[stuck bane]

Yeah but… if we had the ability to make our own PIF the way we wanted we wouldn’t be here

[inland jewel]

this includes but not limited to,

Learnsets, move data, ability data, pokemon data, egg groups, TMs, Held items, key items, sprites for them,

pokedex entries, and much much more

[inland jewel]

no, im not saying for them to code a new IF

[stuck bane]

We cross that bridge when we get to it, if at all, (frog isn’t the biggest fan of Gen 8+ anyways)

[inland jewel]

what im saying is. Get the data for those mons, and make it compatible with the current IF

like we don't have the move data for Body Prss or the Ability data for Sharpness

we don't have the item data for the Ability Shield

[weak trellis]

I was gonna say I remember the new moves/abilities being the big ones

[stuck bane]

Yeah, I’m saying someone could do that

But if someone was that good at code to make it happen it’s unlikely they’d be here

[inland jewel]

i mean, someone that good at code remade the fusion system as a proof of concept to show Frogman, and thats why we had a dex expansion last year

it only took 5 years and passion. IF someone was determined they do it again

[stuck bane]

Here

[inland jewel]

I can't say anything since I'm sitting here

[stuck bane]

Fair enough

[inland jewel]

but there are precidents of people putting in the work and Frogman adding it in

[inland jewel]

yeah, Frogman doesn't care for anything past gen 7, so he isn't going to put in the passion/work to make it happen

so someone else has to do it

[stuck bane]

And he MIGHT add it, if he feels like it

[viscid fossil]

tl;dr
current version of game engine supports up to gen 7
the code for fusing breaks if the enginie is updated

[stuck bane]

He might dislike Gen 8+ enough to say “yeah I appreciate the work, but nah, I’ll still let you choose a Pokémon from Gen 7 or below though”

[inland jewel]

i know, what im saying is for someone to translate the code from the new engine into the old engine

[stuck bane]

Everything that happens to the game is up to him and we’re entitled to nothing

[inland jewel]

whcih i hae stressed requires learning 2 programing languages but it works

[pseudo wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/clawitzer-pokemon-water-gif-20652305

[velvet root]

I need 4 non if mons for the elusive dex

[stuck bane]

Like I said, random number generator

[pseudo wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/clawitzer-pokemon-water-gif-20652335

[hot hamlet]

Vaniluxe

[inland jewel]

I know, i remember way back when the first dex exapnsion was happening someone went and got the Gen 8-9 pokemon data and was asking who to send it to

[stuck bane]

Or you could ask me to roll dice and I give you a unova Mon

[marsh yew]

That's not belief, that's denial

[velvet root]

sure

[hot hamlet]

Solrock or Lunatone
Stunky

Slurpuff

[velvet root]

btw no guarantee that I use one

[stuck bane]

1 slot, 2 slot, 3 slot, 4 slot, or 6 slot

[velvet root]

but naming them gives ideas to me

2 slot ig

[stuck bane]

19 options, roll a d20

Or I can

[velvet root]

roll it

[stuck bane]

The dice gods rolled 19 and said Mienshao

[velvet root]

even one if my fav picks

[stuck bane]

The dice gods also want it to be Mienfoo by flipping a coin

[acoustic tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-scraggy-headbutt-training-gif-10765319732519831217

[half needle]

may i make a suggestion

[stuck bane]

Somebody who paid for $60 games and $40 DLCs instead of $30 for palworld says what?

[inland jewel]

Let him in plz- New move, New ability, last Psuedo we can add, Fighting type (lowest type in the game at 13 species)

[velvet root]

tell me

[stuck bane]

To be fair, kommo does help the contrary meta completion:

Pushing the contrary meta to the absolute limit

Spinda: only normal type with contrary
Malamar: only psychic/dark with contrary
Lurantis: highest attack with contrary
Serperior: highest speed/defenses + contrary

Magearna: access to fleur cannon
Victini: access to v-create
Crabominable: access to ice hammer
Kommo-o: access to clanging scales
Hoopa: access to hyperspace fury

[analog stag]

Fighting is actually tied with Fairy iirc

[stuck bane]

Pokémon by how many of each type in the game by percentage:
29/47 Fairy Types (61%)
29/48 Dark Types (60.4%)
52/97 Grass Types (53.6%)
38/77 Bug Types (49.3%)
29/56 Fighting Types (51.7%)

By number of slots, yes it’s tied with fairy, but only 51% of fighting types vs 61% of fairy types

Oh wait I didn’t see message about species hold on

[velvet root]

My head is in such a perfection mode that I cant get a idea I like enough qwq

[inland jewel]

iirc the number is tied to 13 Fighting species and 13 fairy species

[stuck bane]

Fighting: primeape, poliwrath, machamp, hitmon, heracross, blaziken, breloom, Infernape, lucario, gallade, meloetta pirouette, Hawlucha, bewear

Fairy: clefable, wigglytuff, Mr mime, togekiss, azumarill, Granbull, gardevoir, mawile, whimsicott, sylveon, mimikyu

13 vs 11, am I forgetting some?

I def have all fairy type heads

[inland jewel]

Meloetta

[stuck bane]

Oh right Ty

(Also pirouette being unova’s only fighting type when we have like 14 others is absurd)

[simple gulch]

vote for pant

[inland jewel]

They might be tied to ice then if its not fairy

[simple gulch]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1273333811069059072

[stuck bane]

Idk I’m not checking serebii again

[inland jewel]

i mean you coudl just check daena

[stuck bane]

But… I have nothing better to do

[acoustic tartan]

i need more sprites to advertise that guy

[inland jewel]

since it has ONLY IF mons on there

[stuck bane]

Does daena sort by type?

[simple gulch]

:v 1 sprite

[inland jewel]

no, but you can scroll down and take note of them

[stuck bane]

Nah serebii sorting by type is easier

Ice: dewgong, cloyster, Jynx, Lapras, articuno, weavile, mamoswine, delibird, snorunt, regice, glaceon, kyurem, aurorus

13, yeah must be ice

[stuck bane]

Theres a bunch of scrafty and scraggy in spritework, just use the search bar

[half needle]

slurpuff of course

[clear lichen]

Excluding Legendaries there's less Dragons in the game than Fairies, however there are like 10 Legendary Dragon types in the game

Unless you're playing a randomiser you'll have less Dragons than Fairies for most of the game

Just saying

[inland jewel]

most dragons are also post game, where a casual player will do the league then quit.

randomizer players also only do up to the league some tiems as well

[outer matrix]

I can support with this fusion
|| #1273043432692256970 ||

[half needle]

guuuuuuuuys i have too many ideas can someone take some

i have 9 so i will giv 4 ideas

[velvet root]

Unexpected sick fusion! #1273338064755757086

[half needle]

Seviper/Rayquaza
Reshiram/Sawsbuck-W
Cherrim-S/Meloetta
Cinccino/Venomoth

someone use these

pls

[knotty ore]

https://tenor.com/view/scrafty-pokemon-pokémon-getaway-running-away-gif-1367625946072480739

[deft obsidian]

That's just fusion name, where is idea?

[knotty ore]

https://tenor.com/view/inkay-gif-23593654

okay baiii

[kind forum]

its that time again

[half needle]

sighhhh people cant get inspired these days
Seviper/Rayquaza - rayquaza if he was cool
Reshiram/Sawsbuck-W - more WHITE FLOOF
Cherrim-S/Meloetta - pretty sakura girl with pigtails!!!
Cinccino/Venomoth - fluffy browh nmoth like real moth

my 5 chosen ideas are SEKWET

[half needle]

4 reactions and i'll doodle them

[kind forum]

[rancid nymph]

I feel like people are less likely to read your propaganda if it’s upside down

[half needle]

i know you want to see em

[kind forum]

then they dont deserve too

[kind forum]

already reacted

[half needle]

i didnt read it but i dont read any of the propoganda

guess i might as well

[warm skiff]

tbh I've kinda warmed up to furfrou's potential

[half needle]

contrary is cool but i havent actually seen a single stat lowering move in this entire game

[rancid nymph]

Your propaganda isn’t going to be effective if people don’t read it

[kind forum]

it do be like that

[half needle]

i can read upside down

we dont need no topsy turvy let that propoganda burn

[kind forum]

[half needle]

time to draw my super awesome ideas

[hollow creek]

15 more days

[half needle]

ima start with the easy one

[half needle]

i just noticed my broth is in 3 days i thought it was at least 5 or something

[hollow creek]

Since malamar seemed to be brought up, if I somehow win elusive pokedex im gonna pick it

[hollow creek]

Your broth? Like chicken broth for chicken noodle soup?

[simple gulch]

hear me out

[simple gulch]

buff liligant

[analog stag]

That’s 4

[simple gulch]

vvote for pant

[half needle]

this image i just found on google is my propoganda have a nice day

[half needle]

[sharp fox]

yveltal

[dire crane]

https://tenor.com/view/skitty-slapping-gif-27207112

[paper shuttle]

Has it happened? Is it real?

[deft trout]

V-Create can be learned by a couple fire types from the rare moves tutor

Minus Def, Sped Ef, and Speed
Which now becomes a positive stat

Our only Contrary user is Shuckle tho
Which limits the usage
But Malamar has a higher attack stat which would help with the strat

[wooden shadow]

Oh is snivy not a contrary option?

[outer matrix]

Go on...

[simple gulch]

🙏 whaat if we make buff liligant

[simple gulch]

unaware

[simple gulch]

hear me out

[outer matrix]

Will it also be on a ice cream tray just like the tsareena one?

[simple gulch]

:v diffrent theme

liligannt isnt fruit

[outer matrix]

ok

[twin phoenix]

Is this a collab in the making?

[simple gulch]

[outer matrix]

Idk what's the theme with this one tbh

[half needle]

first lad

any seviper fans feel free to use this

[feral bear]

Oh seviper is kinda a girlboss i forgor

The council has decided

[prisma willow]

Liligant is blooming onion

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/onion-oignon-look-at-that-big-onion-gif-14815442

[coarse karma]

my phone rotates so I cant even read it sadly.

[coarse karma]

I love this seviper rayquaza!

[coarse karma]

I want that plushie now.

[coarse karma]

I love ur Gardevoir line btw.

[half needle]

what do i spy,,,,

[coarse karma]

more skitty :3

[stuck bane]

Not quite yet, but based on the competition so far it has a really good shot

[stuck bane]

It is, it’s just starters aren’t in the vote, so all these options minus Serperior are choices for those who want to push the contrary meta:

Spinda: only normal type with contrary
Malamar: only psychic/dark with contrary
Lurantis: highest attack with contrary
Serperior: highest speed/defenses + contrary

Magearna: access to fleur cannon
Victini: access to v-create
Crabominable: access to ice hammer
Kommo-o: access to clanging scales
Hoopa: access to hyperspace fury

[small tiger]

No slurpuff is fuckin’ ugly, Tsarenna all the way

[velvet root]

Slurpuff has a ton of potential

[stuck bane]

Jojo still hasn’t told me if Tsareena or aromatisse are the face of team girlboss, but much like team unova there isn’t a favorite that’s much higher than all the others

[velvet root]

Yes the normal version is ugly af
But the potential is awesome

[small tiger]

Tsarenna’s first evo covers most pastry fusions and is more varied with 2nd and final evos

[velvet root]

In what way does tsareena line cover pastry

[stuck bane]

Bounsweet

In the name

Idk if I agree but that’s what it has

[small tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-sweet-scent-bounsweet-gif-12955606