pif-hoenn-discussion

[eternal timber]

I dont want the elemental monkey trio in if tho. They would just feel so samey

[eternal timber]

Oh those are awesomw

[knotty ore]

I was shitting my pants the moment I saw them

[dark moth]

yooo thats sick

[molten latch]

Monkes

[rain locust]

would be cool but also ag so im pretty lukewarm on it

[acoustic tartan]

a remainder for yall to vote for scraggy

https://tenor.com/view/scraggy-danca-gif-10689742

[static oyster]

A reminder for you that o won’t vote on scraggy

[acoustic tartan]

noo

[bitter comet]

The chat is dead lol

[dense whale]

Ah, that was a big vote

I hope noone votes for the monkes

[sour sigil]

I had a long think about if wishiwashi wins...about how fusions would work

and it's insane but maybe it would just be pokemon made of fish 💀

could you imagine they just duplicate the sprites but tiny to make the same shape as wishiwashi

💀

[analog stag]

Monki propaganda is based

[mild sedge]

I come graciously asking you to give a good vote on eelektross, funny eel boi. The following presentation will give reasons why you should

he is certifiably silly, might I add.

[acoustic tartan]

hows the banner?

[finite reef]

Vote Golisipod for a new ability, a signature move, great stats and movepool!

[hexed agate]

Imagine not voting for cool bugs

And Relicanth

[knotty ore]

I gave out several 3s, but if I could give 4, it'd be Malamar and Scrafty :>

[bitter comet]

THE SWARM

[hexed agate]

We love Scrafty in this household

[bitter comet]

Bioluminescent Eldritch squid supremacy ✊

[knotty ore]

some other 3s of mine included Carbink, Spheal, Solrock + Lunatone, Minior, Swoobat, and Leavanny

[wooden walrus]

I need skitty

[hexed agate]

All solid options except Spheal and Swoobat

[knotty ore]

if Heatmor and Durant were connected, I'd give them 3 as well Heatmor my beloved

[hexed agate]

I love Spheal, but sadly it evoles

[hexed agate]

Based

[bitter comet]

TBH I like it’s final evo

[knotty ore]

I like the Sealeo much more than Spheal

[bitter comet]

I feel like it has cool fusion potential

[hexed agate]

It's so ugly

[knotty ore]

Sealeo is just a peak of cuteness

[hexed agate]

I can get behind Sealeo

[knotty ore]

and Swoobat is my fav gen 5 mon

[hexed agate]

At least no one is vouching for Swalot or Mightyena

[bitter comet]

Eh, I’ve seen worse

But I can see your point

[hexed agate]

There's a lot of miscellaneous good picks left, especially the later gens

[bitter comet]

Agreed.

[knotty ore]

whatever gets picked, I just hope it's not yet another Dragon type we've got too many of those the last time

[hexed agate]

What do you guys want most that's not in the vote

[hexed agate]

What, you don't like having 55/65 dragons in?

[bitter comet]

Things that can be added into the game or generation 8+?

[hexed agate]

Though I do like Drampa and Dragalge

[knotty ore]

you mean the mons that can't be added cuz they're gen 8+ or something?

[hexed agate]

Either or

[knotty ore]

hm

[hexed agate]

Like, fusion-wise I'd be stoked for Kartana

[bitter comet]

OK for me it’s either the silly little origami ultra beast, Corvknight or fire centipede

[hexed agate]

Origami fusions would be fun

[knotty ore]

from gen 8+, I'd absolutely love to see the mons that set up the terrains with their abilities

[hexed agate]

Eiscue my beloved

Falinks is an easy pick

[knotty ore]

terrains are fun to use

[alpine rune]

that or a second coming of aegislash like fusions

[alpine rune]

SAME

[hexed agate]

[alpine rune]

Finally someone agrees!

[knotty ore]

but hell, Cramorant would make the most hillarious of fusions

[hexed agate]

I'd like the Tapus tbh

The shells are actually peak material

[alpine rune]

People call me a mad man for wanting the Tapus and terains in general

[knotty ore]

the same vibe as Kangaskhan and Mantine including the other mons in them, but much more cursed

[hexed agate]

Daschbun is one of the popular guys I want

[bitter comet]

Oh also the sabertooth ice weasel thing from gen 9

[knotty ore]

I used Dachsbun in my playthrough cuz I can't stand leaving doggos behind

[acoustic tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-defence-escavalier-escavalier-uses-iron-defence-gif-24340606

[hexed agate]

You mean mach punch target #1

[hexed agate]

[knotty ore]

I was like "shit I so hope that the evo is not pure fairy" and then turned out it is and I was like "OK WHATEVER"

[bitter comet]

I mean, I’ve never played gen 9 or really know anything about it so I’m assuming so

[knotty ore]

I'm using it anyway!!

[hexed agate]

I was hoping for a fire type out of it tbh

[hexed agate]

Bread dog

[bitter comet]

I am not talking about the bread dog

[hexed agate]

Saber tooth cat is ice/dark

[stuck bane]

Ah yes, Dachsbun, my favorite new Pokémon for infinite fusion

[bitter comet]

Yeah, definitely match punching material

[knotty ore]

Rellor and Rabsca could make some funny fusions too, just replace the "dirt " ball with something else

[hexed agate]

That'd be fun

[stuck bane]

Unless I missed the craziest code fix someone found of all time while I was watching a movie

[hexed agate]

Me when Volcarona lays down:

I'd love to see Ribbon just populate Diancie's sprites with their collection

[finite reef]

Dusclops/Rabsca where the Rabsca body doesn't have normal eyes, but it holds one giant eye

[blazing gull]

OMG YES I just saw the announcement
I've been waiting for Pelipper for YEARS!

My #1 pick, finally 😭🙏

[stuck bane]

Ribbon has single handedly carried diancie to a most wanted

[knotty ore]

it's not guaranteed to be included yet

it just gets into a special vote

[stuck bane]

Don’t get your hopes up, it’s just a chance, like the raffle

[blazing gull]

It's made it this far, I take what I can get
I'm desperate LOL

[stuck bane]

Still a 1/12 chance

[knotty ore]

still needs to get voted for

[knotty ore]

fair enough

[blazing gull]

Just knowing that Pelipper made it this far is good enough for me lmao

[ornate isle]

how do we vote

is it on this discord somewhere

[stuck bane]

Oh wait it’s not a raffle? It’s an actual special VOTE?

[stuck bane]

Pins

[knotty ore]

#announcements message

[blazing gull]

Check the pinned messages in this channel

[ornate isle]

cheers

[hexed agate]

Wingull is one of my highest picks

[blazing gull]

Pelipper has always been one of my fav pokémon, especially after it got its buff

[hexed agate]

And I've grown to like toilet bird

[stuck bane]

I considered Pelipper on my team as a kid, never chose it but I like it

Also Pecko or whoever it is from the Gen 3 games

[knotty ore]

I'd prefer some other weather setters cuz we already have Politoed and Kyogre for rain, buuut Pelipper isn't bad

[hexed agate]

Torkoal and Pelipper, and this vote would be stacked

[blazing gull]

^

[ornate isle]

i want escavalier so bad bro

[stuck bane]

I suppose 100% hoenn in that case wouldn’t be the worst, as I’d be happy with 50% of the mons chosen

[hexed agate]

I firmly believe in cool bugs

[blazing gull]

The 100% hurricane from pelipper though is just

[knotty ore]

just fuse Politoed or Kyogre with a flying type

[hexed agate]

But you could have unburden belly drum with Sllurpuff

[stuck bane]

Gen 5 and 7 still have so many stacked bug types

[finite reef]

Araquanid for Choice Band Water Bubble Rain boosted water attacks

[knotty ore]

Castform would be peak for designing fusion sprites, but it'd be a little too much

[ornate isle]

bug gang 🔥

[knotty ore]

choise band + a special attack? aight I see

[stuck bane]

Well, Pelipper was chosen by a showdown player right? They must see something in it I imagine

[knotty ore]

oh wait

[hexed agate]

Altaria 2: Electric Boogaloo

[knotty ore]

water bubble is an ability right?

not a move

[finite reef]

Yes

[knotty ore]

my bad, dies of cringe

[blazing gull]

Aside from Noivern, I can't think of any non-legendary flying type though that is specially attacking & uses hurricane 🤔 Noctowl through breeding I guess??

[stuck bane]

Yes water bubble is like, cracked, it would make kyogre stronger than the light ball Pikachu fusion

[finite reef]

Water Bubble is insanely good

[knotty ore]

true

[bitter comet]

Hey what happens if the mon chosen by the first vote is some thing that somebody chose for the second?

[hexed agate]

Water bubble is Adaptability+stab

[bitter comet]

Do they have to choose a new mon or?

[hexed agate]

Caveat on it being restricted to a type

[blazing gull]

Araquanid/Marowak adamant nature with water bubble & thick club

[finite reef]

No, its an addition 2x boost IN ADDITION to STAB

[knotty ore]

Altaria too

[blazing gull]

Altaria doesn't get hurricane in IF

[finite reef]

Also prevents you from being burned and halves damage from fire moves

[blazing gull]

Hurricane is gen 8 for altaria

[knotty ore]

oh and Butterfree

[hexed agate]

Scarf Kyogre in the rain with water bubble water spout

[knotty ore]

I don' remember what does in IF tbh

[stuck bane]

It sounds like it’ll just be the same choice, so it takes away one slot that might draw people away from the Mon you want, but again we don’t know who’s deciding the special vote

[hexed agate]

Say hello to fishious rend 2

[blazing gull]

https://tenor.com/view/nuke-gif-8044239

[knotty ore]

I don't play the actual game that often 💀

[sullen elbow]

Butterfree also doesnt get It I think

[knotty ore]

I still have a bug monorun lying there

[finite reef]

Barely anything gets Hurricane in gen7

Mewtwo gets it????

[hexed agate]

I have to finish my 20 runs for the role

[bitter comet]

Man, I’m still trying to find the motivation to complete a second run 💀

[stuck bane]

Frog changed some moves/abilities around, so like darkrai gets white smoke and other stuff, gigas gets something that isn’t slow start, etc.

[bitter comet]

I keep getting sidetracked lol

[blazing gull]

Yeah I even made the Politoed/Altaria sprite hoping that it'd get access to hurricane since I planned on using it in a run, bc I forgot that it doesn't until gen 8

So now I'm hoping to replace it with pelipper lmao

[knotty ore]

I wanna record a speed paint of my starter's final evo sprite before continuing, and I have, like 0 free time for this

[hexed agate]

My motivation is getting my profile to clip the discord window

[blazing gull]

And most mons who get it can't even make proper use of it

[finite reef]

Poor flying types

[blazing gull]

Like yeah, lemme just slap hurricane on my gyarados lmao

[knotty ore]

ammateurs use hurricane with rain
gigachads use hurricane with compound eyes

and still miss from time to time

[dark moth]

join the hivemind or wimpods will be in your bed tonight

[bitter comet]

What happens if you use it with both?

[knotty ore]

your consciousness gets elevated and you gain a psychic type

[bitter comet]

Man, aren’t you worried that this might deter people from voting Golisopod? After all if you don’t vote you get Wimpods in your bed and they would probably be comfy in there which would be nice./j

It’s like a situation with cats. The cats are comfy in your bed so you give them the bed.

Man, I am so tired. I am just rambling about nonsense I believe.

I should probably sleep

[marble meadow]

i see this will make things interesting

can’t wait to see what is the next after the next showdown or what it was

[dark moth]

wait you make a good point.

[zinc prairie]

What’s the point of the rare typing if you can just make it

[blazing gull]

Honestly yeah lol
ngl I'd rather have like a rare type/stat combo

Like a specially attacking fighting or flying type

[finite reef]

Defensive bug is rare

[blazing gull]

Shuckle, Forretress & Armaldo to some extend

[zinc prairie]

Volcarona

[blazing gull]

idk, volcatona has good SDEF, but 65 DEF while being a bug/fire type.. idk if I'd call that defensive 😬

[mild sedge]

slideshow post at 2 in the morning :D
give Eelektross a 3 if u wanna

[finite reef]

Improved the propaganda (First Impression > Wide Guard)

[mild sedge]

nice :D

[finite reef]

Also Eelektross isnt the only electric type with Levitate, rotom exists

[mild sedge]

yeah I learnt that after I recorded and edited

[blazing gull]

It's the better one though (at least imo) lol

[mild sedge]

At least electric is guaranteed

[marble meadow]

yeah levitate is good for ground and electric type I always gives those types levitate when fused with missmagius

and beside how many mons know levitate

[finite reef]

A lot

Cresselia, Flygon, Haunter, Hydreigon, Latias, Latios, Mismagius, Rotom, Weezing ~~ and Duskull~~

[acoustic tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/scraggy-danca-gif-10689742

[zinc prairie]

This is what the prayers are for

Hit the Flame Body

[marble meadow]

Fire bug is a solid type combo and bug ice too hence why I fuse bug types with ice or fire types

and my fav bugs are volcarona golissipod and vikavolt

[knotty ore]

https://tenor.com/view/scrafty-pokemon-pokémon-axew-kidnapping-gif-11682153139040908107

yoinks yuor vote

[marble meadow]

and my fav types are ghost and dark

[acoustic tartan]

fr

[marble meadow]

Oh and psychic

[knotty ore]

https://tenor.com/view/inkay-gif-23593654

[mild sedge]

final post of the night, too eepy to keep going
have a gn and consider the following

[haughty plover]

i thought there were no plans to add more pokemon

[simple bolt]

Uh

[deft obsidian]

There is golisopod kecleon and gogoat golisopod too

[civic harness]

Hello there

[sinful smelt]

Ummm I don't get it

So the winners of the contest choose new Pokemon?

What about the votes?

[civic harness]

Yes

[civic harness]

That the normal vote

The eventes are the SPECIAL votes

[sinful smelt]

I guess they count a lil more than usual then? Not sure about the ruling

Like, do they account for like 100 votes themselves, or just are used as a tiebreaker

[civic harness]

When the list is complete, it will be put into a roulette wheel and it will be seen which line or pokemon will enter to the IF

[sinful smelt]

Also, do I understand correctly from the schedule, there is a movie night, and IF tournaments on voice channels?!

[sullen elbow]

No, the normal votes add a Pokémon. And the winners vote for another or something

[sinful smelt]

Too bad I'm during a trip, I won't be able to join, but that's cool

[sinful smelt]

THIS MEANS WINGULL IS IN LET'S GOOOOO

[sullen elbow]

Not yet

[civic harness]

They say to me that is going to be an roulette wheel

[sullen elbow]

Only one from what the winners choose

[civic harness]

So yes

[sullen elbow]

I wasnt sure because they said vote and not raffle

[civic harness]

Wingull is just one of the posibilities in the SPECIAL vote now

[knotty ore]

We did the same thing last time we added a bunch of mons. Aside from the main vote, several chosen people added their picks into the raffle, and one of these picks got into the game

[civic harness]

For now only we know about the normal vote and the raffle

We dont know if there are going to be manager vote or something similar to the last votes

[knotty ore]

Actually, even I'm not sure what exactly this special vote will be

[civic harness]

Oh great

[knotty ore]

just wait and u guys will see it all

[sullen elbow]

There is also the misterious 50k members bonus

[zealous flint]

oh this chats back

[civic harness]

Something more than just a new pokemon maybe?

[civic harness]

Welcome back

[civic harness]

I know that you know THINGS

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-hop-on-bubungus-bubungus-morellul-gif-22292795

[trail hull]

Wingull is the first Pokémon in the list , wonder if luck will be on its side

[acoustic tartan]

people who won events, give scraggy line a 3

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-scraggy-victini-dancing-high-five-gif-17290668

[finite reef]

Is the second choice a raffle or a vote?

[marble meadow]

if Malamar gets in I will call my seija wich is a carackter from touhou

or a fusion if one mon has it as ref alt

[molten latch]

I knew it

It was Victini all along

Cheeky Tart tryna finna join the Vote

https://tenor.com/view/xenoverse-goku-super-saiyan-angry-dbz-gif-1416275111944307575

[trail hull]

Time for some luvdisc propaganda

[molten latch]

Boutta swim

[acoustic tartan]

victini likes scraggy, so if u like victini give scragggy a 3

[fair atlas]

Looks more like anti-propaganda to me. ( ono)

[trail hull]

[terse fable]

Luvdisc is great, I Luv dis(c) pokemon

[drowsy moss]

https://tenor.com/view/scraggy-pokemon-beloved-gif-22142886

[sullen elbow]

butt leaf

[trail hull]

why the "()"?

[fair atlas]

Luvdisc is filler in underwater backgrounds. It is a source of heart-scales that was overfished to near-extinction. It is a peripheral accessory, not an actual creature.

[terse fable]

Because the C didn't fit in with my "luv dis" pokemon line I said, so got put in timeout loll

[trail hull]

ok

anyways , I wonder what pokemn will join the event winner choice list

[terse fable]

I'm still rooting for Slurpuff/drampa/drapion/gourgheist/ludicolo and probably others I'm forgetting lol

oh and Spheal line

[trail hull]

I think spheal and gogoat are the most likely candidates to come from the votes

[molten latch]

Round Boi

[terse fable]

Round boi do be nicee

[trail hull]

yee

[kind forum]

Good Morning Chat
I am once again asking for your support

[terse fable]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-scott-scott-rick-upside-down-smile-gif-13397387

[kind forum]

#other-pokemon-games

[simple bolt]

Answer

[kind forum]

[simple bolt]

🤮

[sharp nebula]

lilligant
thank you for your time

[prime dust]

he is my best argument for why we should have Shpeal

[oblique lotus]

reason to vote for toucannon

[kind forum]

good argument tbf

[molten latch]

Round and Spherical

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/drakeandjosh-spherical-present-take-this-offer-gif-5396234

if we don't factor in possible "extras" that get thrown in, the least amount of mons we get is 2 [one from the community vote, and one from the special vote], the most we can get is 11

[unkempt kernel]

6 of which being the monkeys, which no one wnats lol

[prime dust]

yeah

still mini convinced Frog will throw them in as a joke

[unkempt kernel]

Bruxish

[terse fable]

Give me monkeys, give me luvdisc, get all joke mons out the way lol

[prime dust]

well, outside of legendaries anyway looks over at the useless thing that is heatmor

[unkempt kernel]

Joke mon you say?

[prime dust]

pachi isn't a joke, just kind of a weird middle ground

some like it, some hate it, others just want to avoid having the pikachu clones as long as possible

[unkempt kernel]

Id rather have all the pika clones then the monkeys tbh

Since all of the pika clones are somewhat uique

[terse fable]

Monkeys aren't THAT bad design wise

I'd say luvdisc is still worse for that

[unkempt kernel]

They are 6 nearly identical mons

[prime dust]

in base stage yes

when they evo there is more difference

[terse fable]

Enough difference in look, hair styles to make different mons

[unkempt kernel]

In body not really

[terse fable]

Even in facial features

[unkempt kernel]

They just seem like copy paste mons to me

Where as the Pikaclones are all diff animals and have diff body shapes

[terse fable]

No, that's sawk/thro

lollll

[unkempt kernel]

Nah those two are diff enough

[white meadow]

Man i remember all the pokemon propaganda posted last year

[unkempt kernel]

One is bulky

One is slender

[terse fable]

Saying those have big differences but monkeys don't is a bit wild, monkeys have about as much difference evo'd

which is not much lol

[prime dust]

and that is the issue with the monkeys

[white meadow]

Rn i think i just want Golisopod and Maractus

[terse fable]

Again I don't like monkeys, but for fusion purposes it's not the worst

[unkempt kernel]

Which is why i said nearly identical, not truly, the diff's for the monkeys is very minor lmao, whereas say, Sawk and Thro, have different body shapes from one another its not as much as a copy paste

[prime dust]

two things gamefreak screwed up on
making it so alomomola wasn't an evo of luvdisc, and making it so marcactus wasn't an evo of cacnea

[terse fable]

Sawk/thro is good for muppets fusion wise which I think is nice, that's a niche we don't have

[unkempt kernel]

Bert and Ernie

The gothitelle line would be cool to

[terse fable]

off mon design, I'd still say the difference between sawk/thro is worse then monkeys, for fusions though the latter is better I'll agree

[prime dust]

we lack the goth look

[unkempt kernel]

Tbh just more humanoid mons in general would be nice so i dont have to defualt to garde for most things

[terse fable]

I agree with that

Want hariyama for big boned guys

sumo/wrestler ref sprites

Too many skinny humanoid mons

[fresh salmon]

Oh new Pokémon again

[unkempt kernel]

Liek yeah we have Meloetta, Gardevoir, Lopunny, Gallade etc but most use Gardevoir or a mythical, plus more non mythical or legend psychic mons would be nice

[prime dust]

eh, for fighting types my choices are either the timbur line or the komo'o line

[unkempt kernel]

Komo-o line is cool, just wish it wasnt 4 times weak to fairy

[terse fable]

Timbur is fine too, just thinking more for new kinds of fusions

Timbur would make some cool new ones

[prime dust]

sudowoodo/timburr = a timburr carrying around a mini sudowoodo

[unkempt kernel]

The conceldurr just has 2 full Sudowoodo's instead of the concrete pillars

[terse fable]

Claydol would be fire obv but only some spriters would touch it

[prime dust]

concrete statues of sudowoodo

[terse fable]

so prolly would take awhile for quality sprites to be available

[marble meadow]

claydol line clay figures

[prime dust]

i'mm try to make an objective tier list on how easy-difficult to sprite mons would be

[full star]

I only really want the Malamar, Zebstrika, Mightyena, Linoone, and/or the Kommo-o lines in ngl
I see a lot of potential with them and I love using them

[prime dust]

granted i have 0 spriting knowledge so we'll see how well this goes

[fresh salmon]

So only 2 new Pokémon

[kind forum]

just one more before i go out for the day

[terse fable]

ooohh like the idea lol

[full star]

Malamar is such a cool design and concept, it'd be a huge waste if it wasn't included

[terse fable]

I like Malamar, but I always prioritize cute/funny over cool mons

[full star]

I love cool mons more than cute/funny mons, but we can agree to disagree :D

[terse fable]

That's fair! I feel cool usually gets in anyway going off last poll results loll, just like my lil silly guys 🙂

[velvet root]

Good morning

[full star]

Inkay is also pretty cute
The lil' scrimblo,,,
https://tenor.com/view/inkay-gif-23593654

[terse fable]

Cringe, don't see klefki fusion

[velvet root]

I could add it
But than people wouldnt have a reason to look in the sheets

[terse fable]

ahhh I seee, fair then

[velvet root]

But yeah he is nice

[terse fable]

It's so silly I love it lol

[prime dust]

again, I have no knowledge on spriting, so this may be horribly off; but it is my opinion

the monkeys will always either be near the bottom or in their own tier

[unkempt kernel]

Bruh Pach being in actual torture lol

[terse fable]

I feel most of your "actual torture" ones aren't so much difficult to make sprites for as they are difficult to have inspired ideas for them lol

[prime dust]

design is just too simple, i don't really see much happening there

[terse fable]

which is the same essentially

[prime dust]

that was kind of the idea

[unkempt kernel]

Fair lol, but sometimes simple is fine

[prime dust]

the list is a mix of difficulty spriting it and coming up with ideas

im also worried that with the pika clones we'll just get the whole "pikachu" thing but now with that mon instead

[terse fable]

I feel Golisodod is harder to sprite than you gave credit for

Just popular

[prime dust]

difficulty wise probably but inspiration wise

there's a lot to work with there

for the evo anyway

[terse fable]

yea that's fair

[prime dust]

that brought it up, but it could be pushed down into heaven because of the base mon

[velvet root]

Omg ribombee is such torture as a body
You have like no space for the fusion when its the body

[full star]

Wimpod fusions would be so goofy, they'd be loved

[prime dust]

yeah no ribombee was the easiest to slot in

[cobalt river]

ribombee would be so fun though

[prime dust]

its so smol that i was like "how the f is anyone going to sprite this"

[terse fable]

some of the spriter hell picks I'm wondering why you put there

[full star]

Ribombee would be great for a lot of fairy-like fusions and at least one reference to Earthbound, but it'd be so hard to fit everything without making larger bases

[terse fable]

Like the jellyfish mon or ice bear

[prime dust]

i just don't really see much being done there, it may be sort of easy to work with, but i feel like inspiration will be short

[terse fable]

ahhhh okay I see

[prime dust]

originally the list was just about difficulty in spriting but as I did it I had to factor in how spriters would come up with ideas for the mon in a fusion because maybe the mon is easy to sprite but it would take forever to come up with stuff that works

[cobalt river]

kommo and golisopod are cool but theyre so detailed they seem like legit hell to work with

[velvet root]

Heads yes

[velvet root]

I know Goliso is alright

[prime dust]

yeah, but i still feel like what comes out of them will be worth that hell

[full star]

Ribombee/Heracross would be a great Buzz-Buzz ref sprite, but other than that, it'd be pretty hard to work with

[cobalt river]

it will not be for me but i suppose tohers can try tackling them i just dont wanna do customs for those things

[prime dust]

that's more than fair

[terse fable]

Yea I'd move Goli to like the middle of the tier list personally, another one of those only some spriters will mess with it kind of thing

[prime dust]

ok i moved goli and komo to the top of earth

[terse fable]

One of those "need inspiration" prior to making the sprite

like claydol but not as hard imo

[rancid lily]

wait is wingull in?

[cobalt river]

no, its being added to the special raffle though

[prime dust]

though we never know what frog or some of the other staff will "sneak" in

[terse fable]

Most of the mons in peak perfection are on point

[prime dust]

i was going to say "I love how no one questioned spheal being up there with the humanoid mons"

[terse fable]

I'd slip Slurpuff in their myself personally loll

Spheal peak, best one up there XD

[prime dust]

slurpuff kind of has the same issue the vanillite line has, only so much you can do with dessert/cake

[terse fable]

Slurpuff just adds a niche of mons we're missing right now, food mons, that's why I vouch for it, same reason I wouldn't be upset if Sock/thro got added

[deft obsidian]

They are also looks hard for custom pose
Big hands, just like zekrom or necrozma.

[terse fable]

Like how Mimikyu or Porygon added their own sprite style/kind of mons basically

[prime dust]

i moved vanillite and slurpuff lines to near the top of earth right behind goli and komo, which i feel is a fair compromise

food stuff is needed a bit more

[terse fable]

I feel a lot of other mons would be cool, but some of them we already have sprites in similiar style to them, like some of the skinny humanoid mons

[terse fable]

yee I dig that

[deft obsidian]

Imagine someone add monkeys to spacial raffle

[terse fable]

based af honestly lol

Spheal line is honestly so perfect cause all 3 evo's you can work with and do something different with imo

[prime dust]

as for the "skinny humanoid" stuff, that is pretty much just to have variance against gard and lopunny

[terse fable]

fair, I'd be fine with some of them as long as they added more variance, like maybe medicham line lol

[prime dust]

updated

yes I just made a tier lower than actual torture and put the monkeys in it

[dense onyx]

That is exactly where the monkeys belong

[terse fable]

"monkeys" I'm dead lolll

[prime dust]

but yeah, i feel like at least with this early morning crowd that gives reasonable compromises to my original list, stuff got shifted around a little

[fathom ridge]

What do you mean ribombee is actual torture?!?!

[prime dust]

you missed that convo

[terse fable]

Yea, just wait till everybody starts waking up and doesn't see their favorite mon at the top of the list 😂

[prime dust]

body wise it is going to be pain

only way for body to be doable is if you guys decide to just make the sprite as big as you can

and even enlarged it is still going to be pain

[terse fable]

They'd have to give it the reverse Joltik treatment loll

[prime dust]

joltik makes up for smol by being adorable

[fathom ridge]

Also why is avalugg so low, just curious

[fathom ridge]

But the bee is also adorable

[molten latch]

Lurantis on 2nd not bad

[terse fable]

I can see it, head sprites would be rough and body would have to be done well to not make them too similiar to Torterra and his niche already

[velvet root]

I just rememberd
If we vote Aromatisse than a lot of Grass types can have a Lavender theme

[fathom ridge]

I think gamefreak should give aromatisse an evolution tbh

[acoustic tartan]

scraggy line should be peak perfection

[velvet root]

true
But than the cotton candy dog would need one too

[acoustic tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/scraggy-gif-10636033

[prime dust]

i just remembered something, since frog changed the evo stuff for gallade and froslass...that means it would change for salazzle

oh god that's going to confuse so many people if it gets added and we tell them "oh, you don't need a female salandit for salazzle"

[terse fable]

Yet another permanent question that #gameplay-help will have to answer 😂

[prime dust]

the only other weird evo thing is inkay/malamar which i feel like is going to just be level

oh wait no, i forgot about combee and vespiqueen

same logic as salandit and salazzle

[acoustic tartan]

i was just gonna mention them

[prime dust]

male combee will actually be useful

[fathom ridge]

Frogman could add a special location like an upside down house or something

[prime dust]

oh, wait...there is one far worse than all of those

wumple line

that's just pure rng if memory serves on if it evos into Silcoon or Cascoon

that's...racking my brain on how that'll get sorted

[velvet root]

We gave Frogman some ideas yesterday

[prime dust]

that's good

but that still leaves the horror of Wurmple

[trail hull]

#1272157186205683722

[acoustic tartan]

btw, is dusk lycanroc impossible?

[prime dust]

no

[velvet root]

Only bad thing for Wurmple is the middle evo as body

[trail hull]

dawn lycanroc is just a recolor of day lycanroc

[prime dust]

less that more the whole rng aspect of how it evos

[velvet root]

I think thats actually a lil fun
Well if we can find the middles on another route for the easy dex

[trail hull]

Silcoonand cascoon will be a pain or fusions

[acoustic tartan]

the fur style is diferent right

[trail hull]

almost the same body and heads

[prime dust]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message

[trail hull]

no

[prime dust]

day and night are different, dusk is the problem child

but frog answered that last vote

[trail hull]

modrid you should try to become a spriter

[acoustic tartan]

👍

[velvet root]

I mean thats theyr whole deal
I think it is interesting tbh

[prime dust]

i lack art skills

i may try my hand with the upcoming dex entry thing

[terse fable]

making dex entries is fun

for creatives who suck at art creating lol

[prime dust]

despite my issue with creative writing, i do get occasional bursts of nonsense

[trail hull]

everyone starts somewhere 😄

[prime dust]

yeah the last time i drew art was more than 10 years ago, and it took several months to finish that piece

[velvet root]

Learning to sprite isnt so bad

and if you can sprite you can draw kinda

just over draw your pixels

[prime dust]

and that bit of art was freehand

[fathom ridge]

If you use a base and read the #spriting-guidelines is actually really easy

[terse fable]

Drawing of any caliber is too strong for me

probably cause of past experiences regarding it loll but what can ya do

[trail hull]

you use an already existing sprite or your fusion unless you feel confident enough

[prime dust]

eh, i'll stick to testing my luck with creative writing, i can do that more easily

[velvet root]

WHAT DID I JUST FIND???

[prime dust]

i'll just need to find a fusion that:

• lacks a custom dex entry
• and strikes inspiration

[velvet root]

"Why did the Smurfs not stop WW2" 💀

[velvet root]

Im sure you find something

[bold atlas]

so if one of the entrants of the Exclusive Second Poll ends up winning the Open Poll, what do?

[velvet root]

They get asked wwhat other mon they want

[bold atlas]

fair enough

[green laurel]

cipher, i has a request, can i dm you??

[velvet root]

sure

[earnest mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-kommo-o-kommoo-kommo-o-gif-8121977202858861076

[fathom ridge]

What do you think or this one

[prime dust]

not even sure what that is

[molten latch]

So

Anything new

[velvet root]

Ah yes requests can be fun

[molten latch]

Nice

If so then, is it ok if I can?

[velvet root]

Maybe

[velvet root]

You can try it

[molten latch]

Well I could but no one will pick up

[velvet root]

Just ask XD

[molten latch]

Sorry but someone already told me that its weird to DM

Adonis

[velvet root]

Than write it in here

[molten latch]

Ok

Anyways

Which pokemon in the vote is gonna make it

There is too many.

[velvet root]

I hope Gogoat

[green laurel]

i meant if you just dm them without asking first

[molten latch]

I did ask first

Am I missing out?

[velvet root]

Also if they are not okay with it than its a bad idea to dm too

[green laurel]

^^^ this is what i mean
its "better" to find them in here and ask, and then if they say you can dm. go there

[velvet root]

Or just ask nicely in here if someone wants to make the fusion (if its non if)

[molten latch]

Ok

[worn coyote]

ok who's on this vote

[velvet root]

Also I did it for Adonis without a second thought cuz I know him from my community run and without the Tyrantrum/Mantine the Nuzlock would have ended wayyy earlyer

[molten latch]

Sorry for the convenience

Ok

[velvet root]

I recommend to vote 3 on Gogoat
It has a lot of sprites already
a team
and lots of potential

[molten latch]

Lets just get it on topic before this gets off topic.

I dont want to cause an arguement

[velvet root]

also I asked him for a favor back (wasnt a have to but its nice) he had to give gogoat a 3

[worn coyote]

honestly it's gogoat tho, not a gogoat supporter

[velvet root]

Why if I can ask

[worn coyote]

forgettable honestly

[velvet root]

But just cuz its forgettable in the normal game its not bad

[worn coyote]

hell I'd say I don't like msot of these options

[stuck bane]

Ok which options do you like?

[worn coyote]

my big ones to get in are Kommo-o and Drapion

[velvet root]

Our Vote pic and sheets wont change your mind either right?
#1213539303876206643 message

[velvet root]

Good ones tho

[worn coyote]

the chandelure one looks dope, but that'd mean we have to put that bruxish one into reality, houndoom and chandelure should make up for bruxish

[velvet root]

I mean obv a Bruxish one would appear sooner or later cuz its in the Infinite fusion dex

[worn coyote]

imo the reason most of these mons don't do much for me is the... less than stellar pre-evos, shellmet and Roggenrola are the most egregious examples

[deft trout]

Goboat

[velvet root]

Yeah for that part you have to trust the Spriters to do good work

[worn coyote]

this is peak fiction, moving gogoat to 3 for this sole reason

I need goboat in my bloodstream ASAP

[velvet root]

isnt that Skidboat 🤔

[deft trout]

It is

[worn coyote]

who cares, peak either way, goboat just rolls off the tongue easier

[deft trout]

I need to make Goboat

[velvet root]

True

[deft trout]

That's gonna be Thousand Sunny tho

It'll be the sickest Evo line no one will ever see

Since Skiddo evolves before Sandygast

[worn coyote]

why is that an issue??

[deft trout]

Since this is Skiddo/Palossand

It'll be Gogoat/Sandygast before it becomes Skiddo/Palossand

[worn coyote]

just press x to cancel evolution

[deft trout]

Does that work when it evolves twice

[velvet root]

yes
when it evolves into palo you get asked what side should evolve first

[worn coyote]

I voted gogoat 3 for the peak fiction that is goboat

[velvet root]

Love to hear that!

[worn coyote]

I voted torkoal 3 for the sole reason I want victreebel to not be utter garbage

[velvet root]

Torkoal is sick for fusions too

[worn coyote]

though it's mostly gonna be in the game for drought

[silent acorn]

What's funny is that the vanilla fusions look ok

[worn coyote]

a japeal fusion that doesn't look horrifying?

https://tenor.com/view/benefishial-beneficial-shrimple-grouper-clamplicated-gif-26440220

[silent acorn]

Here is some examples of how one can use Torkoal
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1212205746276540456
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1213376866866696232
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1213726378869137438
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1214576883291660299
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1218348342338125914
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1219069360203763812
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1234443609751949363

Personal favorite the Steelix, Mamiswine and the Jynx looks good

[molten latch]

Epic Fail

You can see it but we dont lol

[silent acorn]

Click it

I dont know why you say that, but the links works

I am seeing them lit blue over here same as I saw when others had the #unknown thing

[fleet leaf]

Victreebel does lots of dmg, 490 BST is not really garbage

[molten latch]

Indeed

Victreebel is better than most grass types like Tangela in the late game.

This is Gen 1 Only BTW

[fleet leaf]

plus Atk and SpAtk are almost the same, making it versatile in fusions

[molten latch]

Indeed

Even tho all I remember is James using it but ended up being eaten by Victreebel

https://tenor.com/view/james-teamrocket-jessie-gif-5801873

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/james-team-rocket-inkay-hug-pokemon-gif-25091089

[worn coyote]

it's too slow to get much done especially without sun

[molten latch]

Sunny Day?

[worn coyote]

a turn? with these stats?

not happening

torkoal's drought is the most consistent sun for Victreebel to get work done

[fleet leaf]

There is definitely a good fusion with a more speedy one

[marble meadow]

James is best boy

[worn coyote]

too slow and too frail to get sun up itself

[molten latch]

Indeed

[marble meadow]

who many mons of him he owned or has are in if

[molten latch]

Would be funny if Inkay or Carnivine won

[velvet root]

Inkay is a big fav for many on the server lol

[molten latch]

Heck even I have it as a favorite because of that one episode

See

[fleet leaf]

If your mon is too slow, just fuse with faster mon. I thought the whole point of fusions is to get the best out of 2.

[marble meadow]

plus I see potential for some ref fusion with it like the skwardsward boss

[molten latch]

Or Squidward Meme fusions

Even tho joke alts has been limited.

Because of game space

[fleet leaf]

where did you make that list?

[velvet root]

How is Feraligatr your fav but not on your fav team?

[molten latch]

Because nostalgia

Totdile has been my childhood ever since

He's a small lovable guy

https://tenor.com/view/totodile-pokemon-dance-two-frame-gif-gif-617466149287403534

Also

[molten latch]

https://cajunavenger.github.io/

Here ya go

[velvet root]

Btw what did you talk about with a request someone didnt accept?
Im really curious

[fleet leaf]

thanks, but i just googled it and found it immediately 😂

[molten latch]

If you want to talk about it, then DM me. But no promises on DM me back.

[fathom ridge]

Yeahhh clodsire supremacy

[molten latch]

Indeed

Either Golisopod or Malamar or Dragalge

As I'm now on the "Alliance"

Despite I was sided with Spheal

[marble meadow]

well u can never go wrong with derp round or no though mons

and my fav are the sire aka quagsire and clodsire

[next sapphire]

we need greninja

and marshadow

and kommo-o

done

[acoustic tartan]

a remainder to give scraggy line a 3 (i wont stop )

https://tenor.com/view/scraggy-danca-gif-10689742

[next sapphire]

don't

[acoustic tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/scrafty-pokemon-pokémon-flying-zoomies-gif-17244249425392771398

[next sapphire]

good

[acoustic tartan]

noo

scraggy needs u

your vote

[next sapphire]

wear some pants that fit

then I'll see to it

[molten latch]

Why do people hate Marshadow BTW?

[next sapphire]

idk

cute lil boost robber

[acoustic tartan]

those pants are the ones which makes it special

[next sapphire]

oh and ubers for eternity

[next sapphire]

machamp with scraggy will not end well

[acoustic tartan]

ayo

no

[molten latch]

I mean he will be a hooded body builder

Like a jogger

Or a boxer

[next sapphire]

without pa-

[molten latch]

Boxers wears hoodie during training

[acoustic tartan]

https://discordapp.com/channels/302153478556352513/1214228566233980978

[next sapphire]

boxer without boxers

[acoustic tartan]

we got this

[acoustic tartan]

lol

[molten latch]

His 2nd pair of arms can hold it

Scrachamp

[next sapphire]

then machoke will be next

oh and don't forget gallade

or gard

yk what

scrafty better

[acoustic tartan]

then holding the pants would be his priority

[next sapphire]

then he can't fight

:<

[acoustic tartan]

yeh

[molten latch]

What about Slowbro?

[next sapphire]

wait we're missing something

[next sapphire]

they're 50/50 gender ratio lol

[next sapphire]

he dont care

[acoustic tartan]

bruh

[acoustic tartan]

thats the problem

[next sapphire]

he'll wear the shell

[molten latch]

Would be funny of the Baggy pants will be slowbro's tail

[next sapphire]

lmao

anyways I wish there were a cool lugia sprite that can hit hard too

the best one I've found so far is dialgua

[molten latch]

Gengar is a good one

Being a literal cave

With Lugia and the elemental birds

[sturdy frost]

Fuse it as a head with a strong atk body and you got yourself a decent setup for physical lugia with HUGE sp. def

[fleet leaf]

I noticed you didn't put any legendaries in places other than legend

[sturdy frost]

rampardos comes to mind, STAB Zen headbut on a tanky fusion is no joke

Same for metagross, only that typing isnt great

I personally think lycanrock midnight as a body is the nicest lugia sprite. and has pretty damn good stats too at 600 total bst

[molten latch]

Pardon?

[rugged temple]

If Claydol got in and Blasephalon did too, you could have a floating Blas head with hands that shoot confetti

[prime dust]

well legendaries will likely be in a future vote

[molten latch]

Same goes as UB?

[prime dust]

yes

[molten latch]

Nice

Now Guzzlord can scream

[prime dust]

since frog wants to make events for stuff like that it takes more time

its why he eliminated them from the voting this time around

and the community knows why he didn't include the starters

[molten latch]

Indeedee

[viscid fossil]

Dang it you made the joke before I could

[rugged temple]

Either way we need the clay doll

[molten latch]

But im pretty sure my prediction is that the Kalos starters will win because Legends ZA

[prime dust]

going off the last vote

you'd be right

[molten latch]

Indeed

Because Kalos is back baby

[rugged temple]

Fuse Claydol with chandelure or drifblim, acquire ultimate power

[molten latch]

Maybe fused it with Chestnaught for a freaky Oathbreaker Paladin.

Its D&D related

[rugged temple]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-burning-hell-gif-1773731824984430627

No even better

[viscid fossil]

Kalos starters are just dnd classes so that works

[rugged temple]

https://tenor.com/view/power-aladdin-disney-unlimited-cosmic-power-genie-gif-5266474

Cosmic powers Claydol

[molten latch]

LETS FREAKING GOOOOO!!!

Downside Braixen

[viscid fossil]

But cosmic power isn't a good move

[molten latch]

Thats it

[rugged temple]

Sh

Ush

[fleet leaf]

i mean in you favorite list. You only put non-legends into every slot

[rugged temple]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-freak-boss-jafar-disney-gif-12988227

[prime dust]

rolls nat 1

your wish spell has backfired horribly

[rugged temple]

It's okay it's Disney anyways

[stuck bane]

Have you actually read 5e wish? It’s basically Magikarp splash but with the downsides of memento and double edge, there’s literally a line that says “the spell may outright fail (at DM’s discretion), it’s literally the worst spell

[molten latch]

Ah I understand

Because to make thing quite fair.

[rugged temple]

As long as komo-o doesn't get in : )

[prime dust]

but we need both moar fighting and dergin

[rugged temple]

#NotAnotherDragonPsuedo

[rancid drift]

How many are being added

Just one?

[unkempt kernel]

2 lines maximum

[stuck bane]

This is a fair point, we already have so many dragons, and gens 6-7 got so much love last vote. If anything, legends ZA is proof that other gens (5) should get more love

[prime dust]

barring possible extras, minimum 2, max 11

if you mean actual mons

but yeah, 2 lines max

[rugged temple]

Btw when IS the result gonna be announced

[prime dust]

probably next month

[rugged temple]

Personally I expect pokemon with three stages to be most likely included

[stuck bane]

Voting ends on the 29th or something, and then after all the fusion week events the special vote will be held

[prime dust]

the voting ends on the 29th

[rugged temple]

Gotcha

I'll have to see if I'm not being held up around that time

Btw vote Claydol, we could have floating golden psychic idol Claydol/cofagrigus

[prime dust]

i already set my votes, no desire to alter them, i think claydoll either got a 0 or 1

[rugged temple]

Perish

[rugged temple]

[rancid drift]

I think exadrill has great fusion potential

[rugged temple]

#AvoidADragonDisaster

[prime dust]

i reserved my 3 votes mostly for mons with 3 stages

[rugged temple]

...3 votes?

[prime dust]

the score of 3

[rugged temple]

Oh you mean pointe

Yeh

[high haven]

Wait he's not already in?

[prime dust]

nope

[rugged temple]

I gave drilbur and excadrill 2 points because I hated the black/white gym with it and no other reason

[next sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/excadrill-excadrill-uses-metal-claw-metal-claw-pokemon-metal-claw-pokemon-excadrill-uses-metal-claw-gif-24444453

[alpine rune]

So you're saying cancel Clay(dol)?

[rugged temple]

I gave your drilling rat a 2 chill

[strange ether]

https://tenor.com/view/shellos-gastrodon-pokemon-gif-11254155363993368953

[stuck bane]

“Clay’s excadrill traumatized me as a child so he will never receive a 3 from me ever no matter what”

Excadrill: mole fusions, only steel type with sand rush, and the only ground and steel type that gets mold breaker, great attack and good hp, and fully evolves at level 31 (can be obtained directly after surge on hard mode with level caps), also the only steel type that learns horn drill, and only steel type that naturally learns rototiller, and the only steel type body to naturally learn mud slap, and the only steel type body to naturally learn mud sport, and the only steel type body to learn drill run naturally, and the only steel type body to learn earthquake naturally, and the only steel type to learn fissure naturally

[strange ether]

vote him

[eternal timber]

I think the trauma is a reason to vote something in tbh

Because that trauma is likely due to it being a decent Pokemon for battles

[molten latch]

Jaiden and her Blaziken

[stuck bane]

IKR?!?! No matter of I have excadrill or my enemy does it will make nuzlockes so much fun

[eternal timber]

I hope you gave glameow at least a one then

That one purugly is gen 4s miltank

[viscid fossil]

Totem lurantis traumatized me and I gave it a 3

[rugged temple]

Claydol:

[molten latch]

Laughs in fire types

[rugged temple]

shiny Claydol is golden

[stuck bane]

I never said claydol was bad, but in terms of ground types excadrill takes the cake

[strange ether]

https://tenor.com/view/gastrodon-he-falled-over-shellos-pokemon-gif-9503925717678619675

vote gastrodon or he will nuke you

[stuck bane]

Oh but Gastrodon being a ground type with storm drain is good too

[rugged temple]

Fair, but it's main design aesthetic is a drill, and we have a main one for that

[strange ether]

and hes js a goofy guy

[rugged temple]

Hard to reasonably give it a 3 for me

But steel types woul dbe good

[stuck bane]

Beedrill probably doesn’t fit drill as much as it does bee though

[rugged temple]

True, it's more of a needle

[eternal timber]

Who said beedrill is the drill

Rhydon and rhyperior

[stuck bane]

Oh right those guys exist

[rugged temple]

I mean to be fair its literally in the name so it's most memorable for it

[stuck bane]

Been a while since I played Pokémon, it’s been nonstop palworld for the past half a year for me

[rugged temple]

Glad palword wasnt just a once and done thing

[stuck bane]

I still think the drill on rhyperior is too small to be considered its main selling point in fusions, most people I’ve seen use the armor and arm cannons it has as the main design things , excadrill could still work for giant drill fusions

[molten latch]

Palworld is good

[eternal timber]

Excadrill isnt even a drill design tbh

That describes their behavior, not their design

[stuck bane]

I’m glad most of the Pokémon community has gotten over this war against palworld, competition breeds innovation and we’ll both be better off for it

[eternal timber]

I’m still not sure if palworld is stable enough on my steam deck for me to not get frustrated at crashes

[molten latch]

Anyways

Who should I vote besides Spheal or Gogoat?

[eternal timber]

Cat

[stuck bane]

All of unova

[molten latch]

Dragalge is a good one

[rugged temple]

Exactly, and Nintendo/Game freak can't sue their way into owning the entire idea behind monster companions

[stuck bane]

It literally turns into a giant drill as part of its design

[rugged temple]

But they'll try if they can. Spineless cowards

[eternal timber]

Throw skitty a bone for normalize or throw glameow a bone for the galactic admin fight

[rugged temple]

Why would you throw a bone to a cat

[eternal timber]

Except they didn’t try, and the concern was designs not the genre

[eternal timber]

Because cats like to play with anything

[stuck bane]

Both at least get one point, but normalize is walled by any ghost type and purugly making Garfield fusions can only go so far, there’s better options to give 3s to

[high haven]

If we're doing that, throw Seviper a bone for having an entire section of the battle frontier dedicated to them

[eternal timber]

Normalize is walled by any ghost type? Just have a team of more than one Pokemon

Oh, i also love the zangoose/seviper pair but those dont usually need my help as much

[stuck bane]

No, the main issue is that ghost is THE MOST POPULATED TYPE RIGHT BEHIND DRAGON, in a game of fusions you need type variety and can’t have one slot dedicated to one type that can’t even hit SE on anything

[rugged temple]

Claydol regigigas

Claydol cofagrigus

[eternal timber]

It still brings something new to the game. An ability nothing else has

[rugged temple]

Darkrai Claydol

[high haven]

May I present to you: Seviper + Tyrantrum

[rugged temple]

I respect it

arahabaki Claydol

[eternal timber]

Also i dont want garfield fusions. I want legitimate bulky cats

[stuck bane]

Yes, but those are the same arguments for stuff like luvdisc, yes it is the only water type with heart stamp, and it is a reason to be in the game, but there’s plenty to pick up before it

[prime dust]

got it, garfield fusions it is

[earnest mortar]

lets bring musical birb for a good chatot meloetta musion

[eternal timber]

I just want a fully domestic and fully quadropedal feline evo line

[molten latch]

We already got a fusion by Aegislash

[rugged temple]

Sorry, curse of Lasagna upon ye

[molten latch]

But yeah sure

[eternal timber]

Meowth isnt even fully domestic

Persian is a puma

[stuck bane]

Are reactions banned in this channel now? Not working for me

[rugged temple]

[eternal timber]

That individual may have you blocked

Yeah they aint banned

[deft obsidian]

Someone blocked you

[stuck bane]

Huh must be my phone gonna brb

[eternal timber]

If you can react to me it aint your phone being the issue

[deft obsidian]

Try reacte me, I didn't blocked you

[stuck bane]

Huh, you’re right, idk what I did to deserve being blocked but it is what it is

[eternal timber]

Different people curate their experiences differently

It could be as simple as a pfp or a minor difference of opinion

[stuck bane]

Ye, like the 4k or something people that left after the @ everyone ping, some people do crazy stuff over the littlest of things

[eternal timber]

At least wait to see if that becomes a habit or if it’s just a one time thing

[velvet root]

Meow #1272211599796736151

[stuck bane]

…. Should I tell him or?

[high haven]

Fair enough, but Seviper could work better.

[molten latch]

Indeed

So

[eternal timber]

Espeon is the most feline eeveelution, meow is fine

[molten latch]

Which Legendary or UB will be in?

Once Votes are ended

[velvet root]

Wait they think Eeveelutions arent partly cat?

[eternal timber]

Idk, but espeon is literally a nekomata

[molten latch]

It can be anything

Eeveelution can be a cat, dog, fox or bunny.

[velvet root]

Tbf Eevee is a amalgam of cute mammals cuz that is its whole deal
a cute Mammal

[molten latch]

In-seedot

[deft obsidian]

They probably have phobia to long text

[stuck bane]

Hmmmmm, XY legends are popular, shaymin and victini have bases, diancie has gotten super popular after ribbon’s sprites, but I think it’ll be sun moon legends or Zygarde since those two are so popular

[stuck bane]

Well it’s not my fault unova is so goated that it’s mons have so many reasons to be added!

[high haven]

I think that's why they're not in the vote.

[molten latch]

Kalos Starters will also be dominated in the voting

Due to Legends ZAza

[stuck bane]

Nah someone was asking what legends I thought would make it after these votes

[sturdy frost]

Legends are kept for other additions, as they will have in game content associated with them.

[deft obsidian]

Tbf kalos legendary are really great material for fusion

[stuck bane]

I argue legends za should be reason to give love to other gens, especially with how gens 3/6/7 dominated last poll, but yeah legends za is probably gonna guarantee Zygarde gets in because new form or something

[molten latch]

Indeed, I also voted 4 for furfrou because its on the Legends ZA tralier

Indeed

[high haven]

I voted frufrou because customizable hair

[stuck bane]

Furfrou has good reasons this vote too, fur coat is a pretty crazy ability and trims can give good fusion material

[molten latch]

We're not the same -Gus Fring

[molten loom]

In before we get Megas of Yvetal and Xerneas

[eternal timber]

The trims let you pick from a variety of accent colors for heads

[crimson robin]

if you want options, minior is right there

[eternal timber]

Each minior is a boring monocolor

[molten latch]

Indeed, I do Imagine if Furfrou's fur is design to be other pokemon which will make it cute, funny or cool.

[stuck bane]

I still don’t think that will put them above Zygarde, people love their dragons, it was already popular in the last vote, and because it’s legends ZA it’s probably gonna get a mega form that spriters will want to reference through fusions

[molten loom]

or Vivillon with its 20 patterns

[eternal timber]

Vivillon is ridiculous tbh

[crimson robin]

on the other hand, tropius has no options, but it's a flying dinosaur, which is pretty freaking cool

[eternal timber]

But also furfrou has a really good ability

[stuck bane]

I think vivillion patterns will be more for the spriter to choose which pattern is used, kind of like us not adding 2 billion slots for spinda patterns

[eternal timber]

Furfrou will be too

Because the trim effects nothing except visuals

[stuck bane]

I’d be happy with tropius, it has a bit of a following here

[deft obsidian]

Btw, you all think is there any limitation for new pokemon? Like cap is 500 dex number(we are in 470 rn)

[crimson robin]

I was always meh on Tropius until I realized that its gen 6+ model shows it using its leaves as wings for flying which is freaking dope

[molten loom]

Oh of course, but imagine what could be done with some of the color palettes with them

[velvet root]

Nope

[stuck bane]

Ok, technically, there is no limit, beyond any potential weird code like wishiwashi ability that we haven’t encountered yet, it is possible to get every Mon in, but they take time no matter what, and this is a passion project so frog can only devote so much time to it

[stuck bane]

Pokémon either stop getting added when all of Gen 7 is added, or frog decides to stop adding mons and pursue other projects

[stuck glacier]

I want Shiftry already, the combos would be so cool

[eternal timber]

The limit is how much rpgmaker can handle. They just increased the limit when someone made the code better

[crimson robin]

There's also the limit of how much people are willing to put on their devices - they're already pruning alts to reduce filesize

[eternal timber]

Well thats why we have two different versions

[stuck bane]

Well, it’s not that they increased the limit, they condensed down how Pokémon are coded, there’s a screenshot from the last vote saying there’s now like, thousands of slots to add Pokémon, but it will still take time

[eternal timber]

The one that auto updates and the one that you download everything

[crimson robin]

At some point, there will be no more pokemon added, or at least they will be added far less frequently. That's why I personally don't like stuff like the elemental monkeys. Those six slots could be multiple unique evo lines. Monkey with fire-poop-swirl on its head and monkey with broccoli on its head aren't really going to generate many concepts that the other one couldn't

[eternal timber]

I said they increased the limit by improving the code. That’s what they did. I just didn’t specify how they fixed it

The limit was caused by rpgmaker shitting itself

[molten latch]

Ye

No fun

[crimson robin]

If they end up adding every pokemon from gen 1-7, that's... 651 000 fusions. Goodness gracious

[molten latch]

If only this was like idk, Unity Engine

Or Unreal Engine

It would run smooth and fast

Or any good RPG Maker

Anyways

[stuck bane]

Also speaking of, this uses Pokémon essentials right? Didn’t they get in hot water with Nintendo or something for using assets, leading to the shutdown of relic castle? Whatever happened with that? Are we still safe to keep building this up?

[molten latch]

@placid pelican
You wanna see something cool?
Art by Snejkha.

Also these Lurantis Variants looks kudos

But Dragalge does works well 2 times

[viscid fossil]

It one-shot my growlithe
I had to train it until it outsped and could do the fire z-move

[red ledge]

Mhw mentioned 😱

[molten latch]

Oof

[coarse sluice]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1272220917547925586 guys go for the [REDACTED] lizard

[molten latch]

Basically Juri Han the Lizard

https://tenor.com/view/juri-han-juri-juri-street-fighter-juri-sfv-gif-15611923

If Salazzle was in Pokken 2 (Which it wont happen) it will have the moveset of Zafina from Tekken.

[proud lion]

Palworld Moment

[placid pelican]

Oooooooooooooo

Thats very pretty

:]

[autumn radish]

Heeeey, that looks gooooooood.

[molten latch]

Indeed

[muted ruin]

The one slot is because i did this for the other vote jajaja

[molten latch]

Wait-trell

You can change vote?

[muted ruin]

yes

[molten latch]

Welp

I guess I can change now

Putting Gumshoos to 0

Because Trump

Scraggy and Scrafty is 3 because of the youtuber Hoodium

@grave jolt I hope you're happy

[unkempt kernel]

If Pachirisu does get it thish should be an alt sprite lol or the self fusion joke alt

[deft obsidian]

Isn't she from street fighter?

[molten latch]

I've officially- Oh uhm. . .

[molten latch]

Yes

[grave jolt]

[molten latch]

Whenever I think of her suit in SF5 I always think of Salazzle

[deft obsidian]

Then why did you said tekken

[molten latch]

Because Zafina's moveset is so freaky

At the same time with the powers of Azazel it's a huge surprise in the Tekken 7 DLC

Anyways

[trail hull]

today there is a tournament and the winner gets to add a pokemon of its choice into the second pool

[molten latch]

Oof

[trail hull]

or was it yesterday

[molten latch]

As I was saying, I've officially fullfilled everyone's votes. You can't make me.

[trail hull]

Nevermnd it was already added

[molten latch]

I wonder what happened to Eternal Floette

🤔

[outer matrix]

Possible future event for it considering how it's a special (and currently unobtainable) Pokémon

[trail hull]

plza is its chance

[unkempt kernel]

Maybe something in ZA would have something to do with it? Would be a cool alt sprite for floette tho

[molten latch]

Indeed

Still

What do you think of the list changes?

[trail hull]

they were change in the list?

[unkempt kernel]

?

[molten latch]

I did I mean

The Votes

[trail hull]

no luvdisc

[molten loom]

I'm just going to assume ZA will have a lot about the war

[unkempt kernel]

Probs

[deft obsidian]

Wow~

[molten loom]

And a lot to do with AZ

[stuck bane]

Where literally anything from Gen 5

[molten loom]

You know the guys that's over 3000 years old and 9+ ft tall

[molten latch]

Well. . . . . . . . Lets pretend that the male luvdisc is about to buy milk ||and never come back||

[trail hull]

[velvet root]

Thats perfection ngl

[velvet root]

Would be cool to have it in PIF

[humble lance]

vote gogoat for one more pokemon in pif that can learn milk drink : >

[molten latch]

Thanks