pif-hoenn-discussion

[unkempt kernel]

The mistake with escavalier is that you don’t get shelter

[hazy fable]

Make it happen if Malamar gets added. You have to flip your monitor to evolve inkay HAHAHAHAHAHA

[grave jolt]

Not a fan of Eelektross, but it's good enough I wouldn't have a problem with it getting in.

[dark moth]

wait we had a tierlist?!
bruh I just threw all my 3stars into a group photo 😭

[kind forum]

tbf though malamar would be really cool, for sprites and strong fusions with contrary

[silent acorn]

Ultra based on all these

[mild sedge]

3 starred eelektross 👍

[grave jolt]

Malamar is a Steamdeck exclusive

[bitter comet]

Do you plan on making Eldritch sprites for propaganda?

[hazy fable]

Based, but Darmanitan 💀

[silent acorn]

3 star ESCAVALIER

[kind forum]

i cant sprite

[rugged temple]

BASED CHINGLING ENJOYER

[dark moth]

I will defend chingling till the day I die lmfao

[analog stag]

Where da monkeys

[bitter comet]

We really need to find someone who can sprite so we can get Eldritch propaganda. Seriously I have hardly seen any propaganda sprites for Malamar.

[hazy fable]

NO MONKEYS

[unkempt kernel]

Waste of 6 slots tbh

[rugged temple]

Now brb gonna make a tier list that gets me ratiod

[grave jolt]

god I wanna do that now lmao

[kind forum]

so true, malamar would be freaking awesome

[rugged temple]

No monkey business allowed

[unkempt kernel]

This could be taken out of context very badly

[grave jolt]

No Monkeying around!

[silent acorn]

Gimme 3 on golisopod and Lilli and I'll bring propaganda

[analog stag]

https://tenor.com/view/simisear-saturday-simisear-gif-23454367

[mild sedge]

the eels electrocuted the monkeys via discharge

[inland jewel]

sinec we're getting one line, the lines with the most value are the monkeys and wrumple

[bitter comet]

Already got three on Golisopod so it will be an easy task

[inland jewel]

for 6 and 5 mons repsectively

thats like so much value 🙂

[grave jolt]

I gave Goli and Lilli 2s if that counts

[analog stag]

Exactly

[grave jolt]

Vivillion

[unkempt kernel]

Nah the monkeys are a waste of 6 slots since they are near identical to one another

[analog stag]

1 vote 6 mons with the monkeys

[unkempt kernel]

A d all look horrid

[silent acorn]

Hmmmmmmm gimme a 3 on that Lilli and you get 2 on pachi

[hazy fable]

did any voted Cherrim with 3?

[mild sedge]

already 3s on goli and lilli. I’m on teams who support them so I’m legally bound to

[silent acorn]

[mild sedge]

Plus I genuinely like goli

[analog stag]

New triple fusion monkey

[silent acorn]

the shark hydra bois

[hardy tartan]

sell me on cherrim

[silent acorn]

Fair i love stoutland

[inland jewel]

thats the fun part, There are no slots this time, the vote is entirely. (one line gets in) so the worst value mons currently are single stage mons

[analog stag]

Simisagepoursear

Triple fusion

[inland jewel]

and the most values are the ones with as many pokemon in them

[unkempt kernel]

I was referring to dex slots

[silent acorn]

there it's done

[hazy fable]

I wont, I voted 0 on it

[hardy tartan]

quantity over quality?

[inland jewel]

thats the fun part, the reason why we are limited on slots is not becaues of space in the game. Its becaues the dev only has so much time to code in new pokemon

[analog stag]

Yes

[bitter comet]

@silent acorn Done.
(Eldritch bioluminescent Malamar/Gyarados pls)

[grave jolt]

Thought I rated Goli 2 lmao, it keeps its 3

[silent acorn]

Gonna be honest I would cherrim more if it wasn't because it form change is chibi

[dark moth]

I think I gave it a zero
was tempted to give it 1 for the pvz potential

[mild sedge]

Eelektross - two stage, awesome

Monkeys - one stage, three of them, not awesome

[dark moth]

🤝

[hardy tartan]

they're both two-stagers? unless i'm missing what you mean by "stage" here

[grave jolt]

Imagine Samuri Meloetta

[unkempt kernel]

Exactly which is why coding a single stage mon would be better instead of 6, nearly identical mins that do really have much value

[analog stag]

6 mons in one vote - awesome

[mild sedge]

Amount of evos

[hazy fable]

Iirc theres no need to worry about slots since Frogman managed to extend its limits until it hits the error again

[dark moth]

top left

[hot hamlet]

Eelektross is a 3 stage. Monkeys are 2 stage

[inland jewel]

that the thing though, Frogman will add the single stage mon, and then won't ask to add mons till August next year

[silent acorn]

not Gyarados but hey we have a Milotic design and it looks majestic

[unkempt kernel]

Still, the monkeys don’t add anything of value

[finite reef]

You should add First Impression to the propaganda

[hardy tartan]

how do you know that, though

[hot hamlet]

Honestly that’s worse for the 3 stage given the “Awkward Teen Phase”(tm) already seen in mons

[unkempt kernel]

And I’m fine with that if it’s Pachirisu

[mild sedge]

Probably should’ve rephrased that lol
Plus eelektrik looks pretty cool

[inland jewel]

Past precedent looking at last years vote

August: opens up polls to add a mon." Thosemons get added. And then nothing till August this year

[hardy tartan]

plus, i mean, we have a [REDACTED]-ton more pokemon to sprite with them

[grave jolt]

He did that last time and the time before

[unkempt kernel]

Also yeah, adding 6 new monsters means more work for the spriters

Who still have a lot of mind to get through

[silent acorn]

oh this one is sick

[hot hamlet]

I repeat: Most 3 stage mons do not account for the middle form and fusions involving said middle form as a half, even in the same line!
So a 3 stage is actually a detriment

[bitter comet]

Love the second

[hazy fable]

Just a PSA: Please Dont Vote the Monkeys tysm!! Your contribution is much appreciated!!

[hot hamlet]

Can do without the teeth on Luxio

[silent acorn]

It's the middle of both so yeah....

[silent acorn]

Sorry I can't back you up I did. It's one for 6 man

[hot hamlet]

That Tynamo on the other hand

[bitter comet]

This should be pinned

[silent acorn]

Remember the team does what it puts in there LOL

[grave jolt]

Most of last years picks aren't even half sprited yet

[dark moth]

we need anti elemental monkey propoganda

[hardy tartan]

yeah, that's my main drawback with unfezant
pidove? great sprite potential. unfezant? great sprite potential. tranquill? ehhhhh

[inland jewel]

Bruxish knowers rubbing hand in glee

[hot hamlet]

(Still waiting for Uptra Necro to be 50% sprited so I can do a Single Species run)

[bitter comet]

“vote for the monkeys so we never have to vote for them again”/j

[finite reef]

I think drawing attention to them is the worst thing we could do

[analog stag]

Yeah so vote for 3 2 stages instead, like the monkeys

[mild sedge]

Honestly tho what’re people even gonna make with em besides a triple fusion

[inland jewel]

thats the fun part, we vote the two stages, and only one of them get added

[fathom ridge]

I mean is there enough trolls to even begin to make a difference?

[silent acorn]

They have different enough hair, different stats and are kinda fine they are usable atleast

[grave jolt]

Necrozma isn't even fully sprited!

[inland jewel]

since thye have said. Only one Row gets in from the poll

[analog stag]

Last year added 40+ Pokémon

This is 2 picks

[eternal timber]

The monkeys are just kinda boring

[hardy tartan]

again, if it were one monkey, i'd be more interested
disco monkey bruxish fusion!
as opposed to making three different designs based on hippie, greaser, and .... idk the third

[grave jolt]

50 total, across 20 picks

[finite reef]

Bodies would be so hard to differentiate

[eternal timber]

Also there’s quite a few pairs that should be paired

[inland jewel]

people said that about Pyukumuku, but look at the creativity people have done

[unkempt kernel]

Even so adding 6 new, nearly identical mons isn’t the move

[fathom ridge]

I wonder what will happens with the server when all 200.000+ sprites are done

[grave jolt]

simple; we add more pokemon

[bitter comet]

Gen 8+ gets added

[unkempt kernel]

Plus it adds to the sprite bloat

[eternal timber]

Pyukumuku isnt 3 lines of Pokémon that only really gives 2 body shapes

[hot hamlet]

Already above 200k

[unkempt kernel]

Tbh I feel like this whole vote was a bad move

Like maybe it should have waited a bit longer

[fathom ridge]

In daena it says over 100.000 custom sprites tho

[analog stag]

This is plusle and minun slander

[grave jolt]

When all is said and done we will have 651249 sprites

[hardy tartan]

sell me on them

[unkempt kernel]

No, monkey slander

[analog stag]

Math fusions

[eternal timber]

So the oddly unpaired pokemon are

Braviary and vullaby
Durant and heatmor
Shelmet and karrablast
Spritzee and aromatisse
Lilligant and whimsicott (separated by one being in if)

[analog stag]

People can get really creative with math stuff with them tbh

[unkempt kernel]

Plus Pachirisu is a better addition than plusel and minuin

[inland jewel]

Gothitelle is Reuni's counterpart

Drampa and Turt are also counterparts

[analog stag]

What does Pach add besides pikaclone, at least plusle and minun have a gimmick

[finite reef]

They aren't really counterparts

[grave jolt]

Mods/frog havent played Gen 5+ confirmed

[eternal timber]

See i don’t know all the counterparts

[unkempt kernel]

Diverse movepool

[grave jolt]

More fairy type moves

[hazy fable]

PREACH

[hardy tartan]

eh, braviary/vullaby are more version counterparts
durant and heatmor are true pairs

[unkempt kernel]

Cuteness

[inland jewel]

well in this case they are counterparts due to being version exclusives

[analog stag]

With the scarce amount of fairy mons we already have?

[eternal timber]

Considering frog used that as why he wanted sableye in. It counts

[finite reef]

You should vote 3 for Manectric... it's an electric dog? Idk

[analog stag]

Not many mons to benefit from stab

[hardy tartan]

not that scarce tbh

[unkempt kernel]

^

[inland jewel]

only 13 fairy lines iirc, tied with Fighting

[analog stag]

Yeah the least in the game iirc

[grave jolt]

There's 4 total damaging fairy moves in the game

[analog stag]

Fighting and fairy

[inland jewel]

we need more fighting types plz

if i win the tourney tomorrow Ima add Meinshao or Hariyama. (Or

[hazy fable]

then add Sawk and Throh

[unkempt kernel]

We need Pachirisu

[grave jolt]

And if yall would like there's a Fairy Type pikaclone right there

[hardy tartan]

ribombee?

[analog stag]

Dedenne > Pachirisu

[hazy fable]

Yes its named DEDENNE

[analog stag]

Who also adds more fairy moves

[bitter comet]

Meinshao is my favorite fighting type tbh

[eternal timber]

Meinshao plz lol. I dont like the fighting types that are basically people

[unkempt kernel]

Factually incorrect

[analog stag]

And adds a fairy

[hardy tartan]

muppets would offer interesting design possibilities ngl

[unkempt kernel]

Did Dedenne win worlds? NO

[analog stag]

Machamp jumpscare

[unkempt kernel]

Pachirisu did

[bitter comet]

SAME

[hazy fable]

Yeah 10 years ago

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/machamp-low-kick-squirtle-pokemon-anime-gif-23083636

[unkempt kernel]

Ok and? Dedenne still hasn’t in those ten years either

[eternal timber]

Honestly give them back the tail they had as a baby and they’re fine

[analog stag]

Do plusle and minun have gimmicks making for good fusion potential? Yes. Does pachirisu? No.

[hot hamlet]

You’re telling me Machamp can use legs too???

[unkempt kernel]

Only for double battles

[eternal timber]

This game isnt exactly great for double battles

[unkempt kernel]

Which most ppl don’t do

[analog stag]

Math gimmick for fusions

[grave jolt]

Minus and Plus are terrible abilities

[silent acorn]

No idea why they even exist

[hardy tartan]

explain?

[eternal timber]

They also are just, almost exactly the same body wise, i think the only difference is the tail

[autumn swan]

Literally

[hazy fable]

Floating Eel is still better for Fusions, not some world champ 10 years ago

[inland jewel]

they wanted to make pikaclones a tradition

[grave jolt]

to slightly boost Plusle and Minun

[unkempt kernel]

And the accent colours

[eternal timber]

Yeah, gen 2 got pichu, gen 3 got plusle and minun

[analog stag]

https://tenor.com/view/minun-and-plusle-gif-22976988

[eternal timber]

Colors means nothing on a body fusion

[inland jewel]

Gen 2 was Marill

[unkempt kernel]

True

[grave jolt]

How many squirrels are in IF?

[eternal timber]

0

[unkempt kernel]

Marill is not a pikaclone as it’s not an electric type

[hazy fable]

Gen 2 Pika Clone is actually Marill 🤓

[stable coral]

was hoping missingno would get added. could use the icon000.png for the icon

[unkempt kernel]

Wrong

[analog stag]

So that makes it easier for spriters to make body fusions for them, shouldn’t ease and being able to make sprites quicker be a plus?

[eternal timber]

Man yall are pikablu believers huh

[unkempt kernel]

Pikaclones have to be electric type

It’s why Mimikyu isn’t one

[bitter comet]

Man, I have been jump scared by a person replying to a message from yesterday.

[hardy tartan]

according to whom?

[inland jewel]

When Gen 2 was coming out, they marketed Marill as if it was the next pikachu, it failed miserably so they stuck to electric types going forward

[grave jolt]

Gen 1 pikaclone is Raichu

[unkempt kernel]

Game freak iirc

[hazy fable]

Pikaclones need to be bead eyes NO THOUGHTS HEAD EMPTY

[eternal timber]

No actually, bodies still have to be clear what they are. This is a problem already with the latis

[vague lintel]

Another one

[hazy fable]

Marill fits

[hardy tartan]

then Game Freak is wrong 😌

[analog stag]

I 3’d solroc and lunatone

[unkempt kernel]

Not really

[analog stag]

They need a triple fusion with minior

[stable coral]

I searched missingno just to see if it was something that was considered

[bitter comet]

I kind of suggested it as a joke. Apologies.

[inland jewel]

I'm going to laugh when people vote for several pokemon, and then find out only the top vote gets in

[inland jewel]

since people thinking its the 20 slots from last year

[analog stag]

Voting for the weird ass designs like Claydol is based

[stable coral]

aww they have tongue in cheek stuff already in game, why not 🙂

[eternal timber]

We can vote for our faves still

[hardy tartan]

what value is the assignment, then?

[analog stag]

Give us more weird fusions

[eternal timber]

I voted 3 on everything i really really want

[analog stag]

Weird shit like Claydol is good

[unkempt kernel]

What?

[rugged temple]

Claydol sweep

[analog stag]

Sigilyph etc

[rugged temple]

Claydol was the pokemon that actually made me consider that psychic types might be cool

[silver stratus]

I love the various propaganda posters and such

[rugged temple]

I avoided them until I caught a claydol

[hardy tartan]

what is the value of the term "pikaclone" that it is an official(?) prescriptive Game Freak term?

[analog stag]

Someone make monkey propaganda. We’re not monkeying around.

[bitter comet]

Same, just a bunch of people screaming into the void hoping their voice matters in the infinite amount of people who won’t even look at this channel and just vote first

[inland jewel]

you do! Please consider my boy. Gives new ability, new move, the lsast pseudo that can be added. and gives Fighting Type, the lowest represented type in the game

[rugged temple]

I'll spend my last days gatekeeping another psuedo from getting in

[unkempt kernel]

Cute electrical rodent with similar features to pikachu so that would be

Pikachu, Raichu
Pichu
Plusel, Minun
Pachirisu (The goat)
Emolga (Satan)
Dedenne
Togedamaru

[rugged temple]

Dragon psuedo*

[silver stratus]

If anything, they SHOULD vote first. It's their opinion and interest it shouldn't matter to them what someone else says.

[unkempt kernel]

For ones that can be added to PIF YOFC

[hardy tartan]

i didn't ask what it meant; i asked what the value of the category was

[unkempt kernel]

Marketable

[rough hound]

Consider the following:

[rugged temple]

Y'know what also makes baltoy and Claydol really good? You don't see it ABSOLUTELY EVERYWHERE

[inland jewel]

Tier list of pokemon (Based on adding NEW things to the game)

[bitter comet]

Do you have a version with higher resolution?

[inland jewel]

no

[rugged temple]

So you don't get constantly blasted by a fantastic pokemon being an annoying blight in the wild

[inland jewel]

i mean theres this but....

[rugged temple]

also rip I can't find the tiermaker that's up to date in the pins

[molten latch]

I have a crazy fusion idea for Dragalge. Fuse it with Rayquaza and you get a sick looking poison dragon.

Its a suggestion.

[rough hound]

Im on my break at work but i will surely keep you in mind bc dragalge makes SUPER cool fusions

[rugged temple]

Can anyone link me the up to date tiermaker

[molten latch]

Only if it wins

[rugged temple]

because it isn't in the pins afaics

[sterile talon]

Exploud is my favorite. It'll never happen, but man I wish it would

[rough hound]

Speaking of which

[lament tree]

I just wanna say two things. If either araqunaid, ribombee or florges wins. I'll be happy

[rugged temple]

Combee would be fantastic

[unkempt kernel]

We need the squirrel

[rugged temple]

Nah

[hardy tartan]

meh. If GameFreak wants to add "Electric-type" to their category, that's fine i guess, but i mean it as a term of disparagement
the best pikaclones are the ones that aren't, then

[rugged temple]

We need corphish

[rough hound]

Im saving this

[eternal timber]

Wait what abilitiy does skitty line add

[rugged temple]

Good

[eternal timber]

That’s good info for my skitty propaganda

[inland jewel]

Normalize

[rugged temple]

[inland jewel]

again, this is to add NEW things, not Good things

[eternal timber]

Oh yeah, that ability makes skitty amazing in pmd

[rough hound]

Forgot these dudes

[eternal timber]

But also we have no fully domestic cat line

[unkempt kernel]

We have 0 squirrels so it’s a unique body shape spriters can work with

[eternal timber]

So fusion wise skitty adds a fully domestic child

[unkempt kernel]

Meowth line?

[eternal timber]

Meowth becomes a puma

[analog stag]

So does castform come alone? Or with his 3 other forms as seperate dex entries? It’s an oricorio situation with the different forms having different types.

[rugged temple]

Claydol has one of the singular most unique bodies

[inland jewel]

If Castform gets added thats 4 pokedex slots

[hardy tartan]

no idea. i'm guessing it's gonna be an unown situation, but i don't know

[analog stag]

But it doesn’t show that on the google form

[eternal timber]

Add a red gem and this is basically persian

[unkempt kernel]

Castforms forms I’d imagine it’s battle only but like ultra necro have dex entries

[rough hound]

All of you have good points, but can your pokemon do this?

[rugged temple]

vote Claydol to get ARAHABAKI

[unkempt kernel]

Pachirisu can

[eternal timber]

My Pokemon can overkill in pmd

[inland jewel]

Good ole Physical null guy

[hardy tartan]

yeah. how castform will work, how wishiwashi's Schooling will work, how deerling's seasons will work... 🤷 i don't know

[rough hound]

🤝

[unkempt kernel]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/stealthrockpedia/images/f/f9/Pachirisu.png/revision/latest?cb=20151218213154

God mode

[eternal timber]

Ah, must have been a salamence draco meteor

[inland jewel]

Wishiwashi = Aegislash in how it works.
Deerling = Unown
Castform = Necrozma

[eternal timber]

How is salamence in terms of sp atk

[hardy tartan]

yeah, but is that confirmed or just speculation

[rugged temple]

Imagine if you came in with a claydol that had sturdy

[unkempt kernel]

Again Castform is battle only

[rugged temple]

200power explosion

[inland jewel]

If the type changes, it gets its own entry

If the type does not change, then it doesn't

If the stats change, then its battle only

[eternal timber]

Does sturdy stop explosion death tho? I doubt it

[rugged temple]

shhhh

Also, it just looks badass

[eternal timber]

Listen realistically i know skitty isnt likely. But i can still shill propaganda

[unkempt kernel]

Well it only assumes it’s forms in battle, even if over world weather is occurring

[eternal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/skitty-happy-pokemon-chasing-tail-gif-8563162

Propaganda

[rugged temple]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokememes-funny-cute-frikoid-gif-23774684

[eternal timber]

Also meowth is a bipedal domestic and i want a baby that has paws on the ground

[silver stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/cryogonal-cry-about-it-pokemon-cryogonal-about-it-gif-8982074869133840720

[ionic hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/tess-spheal-gif-22641311

[rugged temple]

[ionic hawk]

The objectively best choice.

[analog stag]

https://tenor.com/view/simisage-pokemon-pokemon-black-and-white-gif-832835787561791742

[rough hound]

Idea: give your propoganda without the name of your pokemon and see who can guess it

[unkempt kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-cute-squirrel-gif-26992616

[ionic hawk]

the others are very cool too tho

[unkempt kernel]

Look at the silly squirrel he’s so silly

[eternal timber]

Ok, lets do propaganda for something else

[rugged temple]

Your choice is nice but can it roll around like a ball

[hardy tartan]

to make it easier to punt?

[analog stag]

🔥🚰🍀

[ionic hawk]

Yes.

[rugged temple]

You kick your pokemon???

[unkempt kernel]

The monkeys

[ionic hawk]

You monster...

Joke

[eternal timber]

They have two really nice palettes and an amazing rivalry theming. Also offering 2 unique body shapes

[analog stag]

🙉🙈🙊

[hardy tartan]

way ahead of you 😌
if you've already seen it you can't comment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLnbiTkj1TQ

[unkempt kernel]

Again, the monkeys

[hardy tartan]

nah
i'll make my hitmonlee do it

[rugged temple]

🗿 🪆

[rough hound]

Knife hands, large bubble on the chest, unique body shape, one of a kind smug face, cool typing. Who wants it

[silver stratus]

cryogonal would literally just be a snowflake so, 🐍🗡️

[analog stag]

🔍🫗💆‍♂️

[ionic hawk]

I'll stick with my round friend ball.

[eternal timber]

Oh, i think you’re shilling for the same as mine but you forgot the other half

[hardy tartan]

alternately
wonderful body horror potential. imagine dugtrio but more, except they're hands with eyes in them
perfect

[rugged temple]

Levitating psychic high damage output type that isn't a psuedo and isn't stupid rare, offers very unique body, and ancient art themes, plus biblically accurate

[brazen onyx]

These votes always make me realise how many Pokemon I gaslight myself into thinking were already in

[analog stag]

Cascoon Silcoon fusions would be funny

Vote Wurmple

[silver stratus]

🗡️🐍🔪 🟪 I have no other idea to put into emojis

[rugged temple]

👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️

Also we really gotta consider the fact that people are gonna be making legendary fusions with whatever gets in. That's why I really want to see Claydol in

So the things I can easily imagine cool fusions for are the ones I gave top votes to

[high haven]

⬛🟨⬛🟨⬛🟨⬛🟨⬛🟨⬛🟪⬛🟥🟥

Guess

[mild sedge]

Biblically accurate necrozma

[deft trout]

Tbf

[rugged temple]

Ain't it already?

[deft trout]

Monkeys give us twice the amount of mons as a regular vote

And Simisage is cool

[hardy tartan]

point's already been brought up
multiple times

[rugged temple]

Who gonna sprite all that? Not meeeeee

[deft trout]

I am

For Simisear

[rugged temple]

Then you might as well only have one of the monkey lines

[mild sedge]

Still holding out hope on eelektross
it may have downsides but it’s still sick

[deft trout]

But I want all of em

[hardy tartan]

sell me on 'em

[deft trout]

I just put in the grind for the lest popular one

[grave jolt]

Pachi #1

[deft trout]

Gives more use for the Leaf Stone

They'd most likely be available early game allowing for more new fusions to be shown off

[rugged temple]

I kinda hate to say it but I've never been a fan of pokemon that NEED a stone to evolve

Even eevee

[deft trout]

Stones are pretty early to get
You only need two badges and a dream

[rugged temple]

Rip me trying to get clamperl to evolve

[analog stag]

How will we evolve Inkay

Force us to turn our pcs upside down

[rugged temple]

Teach it trick room lol

[deft trout]

I can turn my Steam Deck upside down pretty easy

Just spend 300 dollars to evolve Inkay

[analog stag]

Steam Deck exclusive mon

[rugged temple]

Invert controls lol

All of them. Every single one

[deft trout]

Also
Monkeys would be one of two pokemon to have Gluttony as a non HA

The other being Shuckle

[silver stratus]

Laughs in laptop

[mild sedge]

guys you actually evolve it by trashing a rare candy

[rugged temple]

lol
lmao

[deft trout]

Wait

Evolve it by using the RageCandyBar

And going down a level at 31 and above

[crimson robin]

Wouldn't monkeys being 6 Pokedex slots be a downside? Less room for other stuff. I assume there's still an upper limit.

[hardy tartan]

limit's been broadened

[remote ibex]

Monke

Is monke

[proud lion]

A Generation Starter Roster takes 9 slots

Munki takes 6

[hardy tartan]

people actually like the starters, though

[remote ibex]

There's a difference toad

Monki ain't based enough

[proud lion]

I like both starters and da monki.

[deft trout]

Monki is based tho

[remote ibex]

This the only time where monki get chance

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-munkidori-esteemed-monkey-top-hat-gif-852932682465505849

[high haven]

Ignore the starters, we aren't considering them

[proud lion]

This monki ain’t based

[remote ibex]

Otherwise monki fall down again

[hardy tartan]

sell me on the monkeys
Orange is offering metagame reasons, not fusion potential

[rugged temple]

Pick Claydol, it means more space for something else too

[remote ibex]

Honestly

[rugged temple]

Better than a mono stage and much better than a 6 slot

[deft trout]

Also
Overgrow/Torrent/Blaze on Non-Starter mons means that you can get the abilities earlier and guarantee that type since starters don't keep base type

It's a small niche but it's pretty neat

[proud lion]

Simipour Scald

[analog stag]

There are no “slots” anymore

[remote ibex]

Solrock and the tone

[deft trout]

We already have Clefable for Moon Based fusions

[remote ibex]

What about the

[analog stag]

Lunatone is based though

[deft trout]

Sunflora

It's the Sun Pokemon

[remote ibex]

Sunflora

[deft trout]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-gif-25116980

[remote ibex]

SUNFLORA?

[analog stag]

Sunflora sucks

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pelipper-gif-14579972070807294169

[deft trout]

But it's the sun pokemon

[analog stag]

https://tenor.com/view/sunflora-sunflower-energy-beam-solar-beam-group-of-sunflora-gif-27404614

[remote ibex]

Godamm you you obvious pvz knockoff

[deft trout]

Solrock is a metorite

Not a sun

Therefore it's not needed

[high haven]

To me Lunatone and Solrock aren't different enough to justify adding them both, since design wise people will do the same thing that other pokemon already fill.

[deft trout]

Because Minior is a better Meteor Pokemon

[analog stag]

We choose Solrock and Lunatone, the other pick is Minior, and we get a triple fusion of them

The based

[remote ibex]

Minior

Rise

RISE

[rugged temple]

Okay, we get Claydol in, then we get solrock/Lunatone after so we can fuse them to Claydol

RISE

[deft trout]

Nah
We have Hitmontop

[remote ibex]

I command you to fight for your meteor brethren

[deft trout]

It already spins

[remote ibex]

Let the stars fall

[deft trout]

Therfore we do not need top

Made of clay

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/heatran-stark-mountain-sinnoh-pokemon-generations-gif-7396061

[rugged temple]

We do, hitmontop is lame

Also everything does hitmontop job better

[deft trout]

Ain't no way bro said that bout my boi

[high haven]

Claydol does more than spin, it has multiple eyes and kind of looks like an owl

[rugged temple]

I'll say it again too

In bold

[deft trout]

We have unown for multiple eyes

[remote ibex]

Claydol is a creepy fusion

[remote ibex]

Huh

Nk

No

[rugged temple]

Who wants to tell them

[remote ibex]

That's the abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

[deft trout]

Have you seen the Biblicy Acurate Angel Fusions

[rugged temple]

WHO WANTS TO TELL THEM

[deft trout]

It's all unown

[high haven]

Counterpoint: they're built like twigs

[rugged temple]

What's the harm in another?

[remote ibex]

Counterpoint: 12 gauge

[rugged temple]

Surely a baltoy is also easier to evolve

[deft trout]

Unown doesn't evolve tho smh

[rugged temple]

Or do you wanna hunt down a tyrogue

And then spend all that fine tuning to evolve it

Hitmontop still has to know a specific move to evolve right?

[deft trout]

No

[hardy tartan]

no?

[deft trout]

Equal attack and defense

[rugged temple]

I mean tyrogue into hitmontop

[hardy tartan]

no

[high haven]

It evolves by having an equal attack and defence stat

[rugged temple]

That's awful

[deft trout]

Not really

[rugged temple]

Never catch me with that kinda nonsense

[deft trout]

If you have an xp share

[rugged temple]

Id rather just get a better fighting type

[deft trout]

Since the stats are equal as long you have the sameish IVs EVs you're chilling

Nah

[rugged temple]

Anyways Claydol has levitate, immune to electric, and has a bit of 500 so it's a solid choice for gameplay, plus fun fusion aesthetics

[deft trout]

Machamp is cool but not as cool as Hitmontop

[slim otter]

Well, I've got one east sea gastrodon-head fusion

[high haven]

Machamp can chuck hitmontop from here to Timbuktu

[slim otter]

Maybe I should make a west sea fusion tomorrow

[rugged temple]

Ferrothorn/Claydol could have the ferrothorn head, levitating, and with little ferroseed hands that shoot LASERS

[high haven]

Machamp is cooler

[analog stag]

Man I wish we could get Gen 9 mons so we could vote Rellor. Giving mons balls of shit or incorporating the shit into their design is funny as hell.

[rugged temple]

Tbh I always thought hitmontop was evolved with speed stat or rapid spin.

[deft trout]

Hitmontop isn't even that fast

Base 70

[high haven]

I'd like to get the gen 9 cross gen evos like Annihilape & Kingambit

[rugged temple]

Ah so it dies even easier to bird pokemon that naturally have high speed

[deft trout]

Which is less then both it's counter parts

[dark moth]

awesome design

[analog stag]

Farigiraf

[slim otter]

People like dragons
Maybe I should make another dragon fusion

West Sea/Reshiram?

[rugged temple]

Kingambit can come from bisharp and golisopod lol

[deft trout]

Tbf
If you had Machamp out against a flying type it's dying to

[dark moth]

pink jelly haxorus

[deft trout]

That thing does not have the speed or sped ef to take an air slash

[rugged temple]

Claydol does

[slim otter]

It does have about the same shape as garchomp

They would go well together

[rugged temple]

Claydol craze in full force

[crimson robin]

Right, but it still exists. So 6 monkeys cluttering the slots seems bad. Better to have a variety of different things

[slim otter]

I'll consider it
Reshiram is still very cool

[dark moth]

yummy

[rugged temple]

lol

Sushi

[bitter comet]

What is an ice type magicarp?

[dusty arrow]

its in the image

[rugged temple]

An ice type magic duh

[hardy tartan]

a tired running joke

[bitter comet]

Ah

[dusty arrow]

ignore worm

they dont respect it

[dark moth]

agreed

[bitter comet]

They have color in their name

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-pokemon-gif-19673550

[rugged temple]

Can't hear the haters over the sound of Claydol hyperbeam

[dusty arrow]

claydol is pretty cool, unown/claydol could be spooky

[rugged temple]

🙂

[split bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[proud lion]

I wonder if some secrets (from announcements) are revealed starters/legendaries/UBs? As to why they are not in the poll for secrecy.

[hardy tartan]

imagine
jynx fusion

they're not in the poll because they'd swamp the results

[rugged temple]

Stackataka claydol

[slim otter]

They're not in the poll because Frog thinks that legends and UB deserve enough time to code an in-game event for them and because he thinks the starters are boring

[rugged temple]

STACKATAKA CLAYDOL!!!

Oh, or nihilego Claydol

That could be really cool

[trail quiver]

i just like sigiliph because he carried me a while back and i have not forgot that

[rugged temple]

Fair

[gray vine]

the good boy

[mellow stirrup]

IMO Wishiwashi would be a good base for cool fusions art wise.

[finite reef]

Agreed, there's a lot of good alolan water types left

[rough hound]

progress has begun on the absol base sprite, if anyone wants to see its in spritework =P

(this is for an eventual toxicroak/absol)

[abstract gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/cinderace-pokemon-shocked-angry-blushing-gif-20810361

[robust niche]

Solgaleo or lunala in if would be amazing

[somber crow]

Yes, sadly not in the vote

[robust niche]

Ik it’s sad

cries

[vague lintel]

Another one

[clever slate]

SCRAFTY!! the design just lends itself too well to creative designs

[molten latch]

Zelda reference

Angry Ahh Doomsday Moon

Even If I like Spheal, I support everyone's opinion on their favorite mons.

[vague lintel]

I, also, am hoping for spheal line

Bruxish/Walrein :V

[molten latch]

Freaky 👁️ 👄 👁️

[coarse karma]

Vote for happy seel boi.

[cloud flume]

ngl I would make propaganda for who I want to win but

1. I have too many I want to win
2. I have forgotten

[rough hound]

look at all these croagunk/toxicroak base sprites already made by people in spritework.

[molten latch]

Plus

He's even in Pokken Tournament

[median sphinx]

Medicham, has a mega too, great fusion potential artwise (: (biased, one of my fave pokemon)
Would love to see Golisopod too.
Happy Bewear made it into the game.

[coarse karma]

I've been making a lot of non-if spheal (and a couple sealeo) this past year

[molten latch]

Round Boi

[median sphinx]

He,s a baby

[vague lintel]

Too many great options

[coarse karma]

I'd love if crogunk got in, I actually have a crogunk fusion I made last summer but never finished once I realized it wasn't in the game. I'd love to go back and finish it.

[cloud flume]

ikr? I'd put in like 10 at minimum if I had the power to

[coarse karma]

Technically speaking the best option here is a line that evolves at least once or twice. Last year there were 20+ open slots but we were told each evolution in a line counts towards the limited 20 something spaces. this time it's a good thing for us players cause even though they said 1 pokemon, we could technically get 2-3.

[upbeat swift]

Please vote for Spheal

[coarse karma]

I rm seeing you make everyone of these. had luxio share some of your fusions here yesterday night too :3

[cloud flume]

ngl I feel like spheal is probably gonna win, just a hunch

[coarse karma]

Be wild, it was ranked around 12th place last poll.

[upbeat swift]

I need to update that Walsire. The base I used should be be used anymore

[coarse karma]

opions sure have changed tho

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-pokemon-gif-19673516

[cloud flume]

midchirisu

[vague lintel]

I recognize that fusion lol

[grave jolt]

GOATchirisu

[upbeat swift]

Which one?

[cloud flume]

we've got 2 better pikaclones on the list alone

[upbeat swift]

https://youtu.be/_BHkndCP2Rg?si=31UoNoGymBvnaL-E

Spheal is happiest

[grave jolt]

Incorrect

[vague lintel]

You posted your quagsire/walrein in my reddit thread a little while ago d:

[upbeat swift]

Oh lol. I just want to spread the word of the blubby doofus

[coarse karma]

Whatever fusion wins expect us Zigzags to be going on a posting spree most likely next month when the winner is revealed lol.

[cloud flume]

look into togedemaru's stupid beady eyes and deny it the victory ||(I will, gigalith stays winning)||

[coarse karma]

if by a slim chance spheal ever does win i'll make sure to let the other zigzags know that you're wanting to fix up your walsire

[median sphinx]

See the potential (old drawing), but I'm kinda new here, so I'll vote for the people.
With meditite you can give pokemon a diaper though

Which pokemon is in first place now?

[coarse karma]

how have I never seen this b4

[vague lintel]

Medicham is my number three. Lunatone/Solrock, Shiftry, Medicham. I have a toooon of ideas for Medicham

[coarse karma]

we dont know only those running the poll do. usually get shown who placed what after everything is over.

[median sphinx]

All awesome pokemon to make fusions off

[median sphinx]

Ah, makes sense. I did see someone talk about spheal being 12th last time

[coarse karma]

yeah I saw another user share a doc here last year but dont have it on hand, i'm going by memory.

[coarse sluice]

can I ask someone something in dms

[cloud flume]

If I had to pick a top 3... uh... vikavolt, kommo-o, and gigalith, with an honorable mention to zangoose and seviper for being the best package deal (this was way too hard to decide)

[vague lintel]

Kommo-o and Vikavolt are up there on my wishlist

[coarse karma]

we have a joke alt gigantamax spheal in the game some electrode fusion.

[cloud flume]

I feel like they have a pretty good shot at winning, especially kommo-o cause pseudo privilege

[coarse karma]

some other lil spheal cameos

[vague lintel]

Agreed

[coarse sluice]

can I ask someone something in dms pls

[median sphinx]

I would love to make ball kirby as meme for spheal, the blue one from I think amazing mirrors

[coarse karma]

I'd love kommo-o, I wouldn't be good at working with it's final evo's scales cause but the first and 2nd stages look easy enough to sprite with, for those still getting the hang of spriting.

[coarse karma]

is it to do with the poll?

[median sphinx]

I think you can make some sick armor with his scales

[coarse sluice]

yes, and a base sprite I have in mind

[cloud flume]

good point, it would probably lack sprites for a long while, but those sprites are going to look godly

[coarse karma]

for real, i'm so excited for all the creative spriters to make fusions with it! :D

[coarse sluice]

I want to talk in dms bc it's a Salazzle sprite and I don't want to break rule 2 accidentally

[coarse karma]

could always show it off in #spriting-discussion or #spriter-general

[coarse sluice]

I want to talk in dms bc it's a Salazzle sprite and I don't want to break rule 2 accidentally

[silk cedar]

gastroodon must win, we need our squishy

[coarse karma]

your first comment is directly above my previous, no need to copy paste 😅

[coarse sluice]

yeah Ik

[coarse sluice]

so can I dm real quick

[serene narwhal]

Hear me out: ribbombee

[silk cedar]

im hearing you out

[cloud flume]

why are there so many good gen 7 mons??? WHY DO I ONLY GET TO PICK ONE?????

[silk cedar]

an explanation as to why would maybe sway me

[serene narwhal]

I DONT KNOW

[silk cedar]

fair enough

[cloud flume]

is very cute

[silk cedar]

okay but hear me out

so is shellos

[cloud flume]

also the lil scarf could be good for fusions

[serene narwhal]

It's a good fairy/bug type pokemon

[cloud flume]

in any other scenario I would agree, but I don't really think gastrodon needs to be added

[silk cedar]

do we have any other storm drain pokemon?

[serene narwhal]

It also has moves such as dazzling gleam, moon last, quiver dance for set up, draining kiss for stab/ recovery

[silk cedar]

did you also know that cutiefly is based off of a real animal?

[cloud flume]

ok if we're talking abilities yea, but I'm care more about fusion potential, and I don't see that much in gastrodon

[cloud flume]

yes why?

[silk cedar]

it is also very cute

[serene narwhal]

There's arguments for both honestly

Isn't swampert the only water/ground?

[silk cedar]

theres quag

and wooper

[serene narwhal]

Oh yeah

[silk cedar]

but the ground/water argument could be made for the whiscash line and the seismitoad line as well

[hardy tartan]

HA Cradily?

[cloud flume]

unique typing doesn't matter too much to me cause you can just fuse stuff to get unique types

[silk cedar]

good point

[cloud flume]

common cradilly W

[serene narwhal]

But still, a quiver dance fairy type that has good fusion material is nothing to laugh at

[silk cedar]

realistically id like to see the diggersby line, i think theres a lot of fussion potential there, either that or the escavalier line or the excadrill line

[cloud flume]

yea, slap that on a bibarel and you just kinda... win

[steep cliff]

but what about Toxicroak

because I like him

[cloud flume]

not a bad choice, but not my favorite

[serene narwhal]

Bibarel?

[cloud flume]

simple qdance

[steep cliff]

yeah he usually isn't most peoples favorite (toxicroak)

[serene narwhal]

Oh god

[cloud flume]

I like conkeldurr, I understand

[silk cedar]

i think in terms of fusion potential carbink might have the best odds

[serene narwhal]

Carbink is just a rock who's a lil guy

[cloud flume]

true, but... its carbink, I don't think it has the best odds

[steep cliff]

yeah I would have to agree. not peoples top choice.

[silk cedar]

i mean it actually makes for a really good utility pokemon that could be found early on in MT moon that can set up screens and stealth rock

[serene narwhal]

Wouldn't we end up with a spore/prankster situation?

[cloud flume]

that is true, but it has to get over the massive hurdle of being generally really forgettable

[silk cedar]

i mean yeah but its kinda just there on the form, anyone whos gonna vote for it can already see all the gem-filled fusions

[steep cliff]

@cloud flume facts

[silk cedar]

i feel like sygiliph would have better odds were it not for unown existing

[serene narwhal]

I can see sygiliph for the sprites alone

[silk cedar]

or the walrein line could win because everyone wants speal

[silk cedar]

yeah thats what i was saying, there would sadly be a lot of overlap in sprites with unown

[serene narwhal]

Oh

[cloud flume]

also gigalith could also have really good gem based fusions GIGALITH SWEEP FIRST EVER POKEMON TO EARN 4S ACROSS THE BOARD!!!!!!!!!!!

[silk cedar]

another pokemon that could have some really cool fusions would be dragalgae

[steep cliff]

I'd be down with both of those

[cloud flume]

true, dragalaglaligadingdong is pretty cool

thats how you spell it right?

[silk cedar]

sadly i think we all know its gonna end up being Komo-o

[silk cedar]

of course

[steep cliff]

yeah dingdong is pretty sick

[serene narwhal]

Ribbombee sweep

[cloud flume]

idk, I feel like its way to early to bet on anyone rn

[steep cliff]

true, but it's still fun to brainstorm

[cloud flume]

true

[silk cedar]

i feel like top contenders right now are Komo-o, Gigalith, Carbink, Dragalgae, and Walrein (solely for spheal)

the only reason i didnt put ribombee is because i dont see much fusion potential

[serene narwhal]

But da scarf

[cloud flume]

GIGALITH SWEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPP

[silk cedar]

you could make that argument for aromatisse

[cloud flume]

there is a very key difference between the two tho

aromatisse sucks and ribombee doesn't

[serene narwhal]

*Mostly quiver dance

[silk cedar]

OH MY GOD I FORGOT LEAVANNY

[serene narwhal]

Wait hold up let him cook

Leavanny is actually pretty cool

[cloud flume]

true leavanny is amazing

[silk cedar]

its ability would make it amazing for sun teams too

along with swords dance

false swipe learned naturally to catch pokemon easier in the early game

also 500 BST

[stuck bane]

Leavanny: mantis fusions (that are actually bug type unlike lurantis) and sewing fusions, also adds more bug and grass types, and is a mon used on ash’s team, good attack and speed, only grass type to get swarm, and the only bug type to get chlorophyll (fuse with Durant for super speedy chlorophyll boosted scizor?), the only grass type that can learn endure naturally, and the only bug type that can learn grass whistle, and the only grass type to learn sticky web, and also the only grass type to learn string shot, and is also the only grass type able to learn struggle bug, and gets entrainment (it’s the only grass type to get it besides petilil, but also all of leavanny’s body stats are better than Lilligant’s, so it still makes for the better grass type body), and the only grass type with access to fell stinger naturally, and Swadloon also brings the best head fusions in the whole game

[silk cedar]

Leavanny sweep

[stuck bane]

Yeah leavanny is a good one, kinda underrated next to lurantis but I still like it

[serene narwhal]

LET HIM COOK

[silk cedar]

only grass type to learn sticky web is crazy too

[serene narwhal]

Chlophile fire type would go nuts too

[stuck bane]

Yeah some crazy combos would be possible with it

[silk cedar]

essentially a chlorophyll centiskorch with swords dance and sticky web

if only we had ceruledge

ceruledge + leavanny would go crazy

[cloud flume]

I read that as chipotle and... wasn't really confused at all honestly

[silk cedar]

thats just capsakid

[gray crow]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[silk cedar]

im also seeing the leavanny + aegislash fusion, bug/steel type, chlorophyll, kings shield, swords dance, iron head, razor leaf with an occa berry

[cloud flume]

true, overall I feel like spheal has good odds

[silk cedar]

it would also just look absolutely sick

[serene narwhal]

Spheal wins because it's just a straight up orb

[silk cedar]

yeah its kinda crazy how good of a shot it has just because spheal exists lmao

[gray crow]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[cloud flume]

ngl occa berry doesn't hold up with 4x weaknesses, sash would probably be better

[silk cedar]

tru, you can grow occa berries tho

[cloud flume]

fair

[serene narwhal]

It remains the same type

[silk cedar]

i can see the sewing fusions too, like gardevoir + leavanny

oh my god i just realised

leavanny has a shot because of gardevoir/lopunny factor

[serene narwhal]

OH GOD NO

[silk cedar]

ITS CURSED BUT ITS TRUE AND I HATE IT

[median sphinx]

Castform 👀

[serene narwhal]

LEAVANNY ISNT EVEN THAT HOT

[median sphinx]

You can give every pokemon a front butt

[silk cedar]

ITS NOT BUT YOU KNOW SPRITERS ARE GONNA SEE IT

[cloud flume]

to you mayhaps ||/s||

[silk cedar]

i can see the fusions but i dont think so just because of how notoriously bad castform is

[serene narwhal]

insert Gardevoir joke here

[cloud flume]

insert copypasta, y'know the one

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/leavanny-pokemon-nintendo-pokemon-sun-and-moon-walk-gif-25086299

[median sphinx]

It would be for memes, that's fot sure

[serene narwhal]

"hail yeah" for example

[shut stag]

https://tenor.com/view/sigilyph-pokemon-unova-pokemon-black-and-white-ccccc-gif-20754394

[silk cedar]

i definately saw sygiliph but it has too much fusion overlap with unown

[median sphinx]

A ManJTV viewer, hail yeah

[shut stag]

some of my favorit mons are on the list its a shame probably sont see any 😭

[shut stag]

idk i think more could be done with him than unown

unconventional design, would make for som pretty weird fusions & id love to see how people go about it

[silk cedar]

i think so too, i just dont think so much more that it warrants being the one pokemon thats added

[shut stag]

is t really just one being added

[silk cedar]

i think so, someone correct me if im wrong on that

[serene narwhal]

So we have either funni bug or orb

[silk cedar]

or the pseudo

im going for funny bug tho

[serene narwhal]

Honestly agreed

[silk cedar]

i can see the fusions already, it would be so sick

[shut stag]

the way it sounds it seems only one is getting added

[silk cedar]

like even sewaddle and swadloon fusions

[serene narwhal]

Swadloon just gives pokemon giant blankets

[silk cedar]

it would be adorable, like togepi in a little leaf burrito

[serene narwhal]

YES

[cloud flume]

leavanny/mimiku is gonna be... something good, idk what exactly but it will be

[silk cedar]

I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING

its gonna be a hard one to crack but itll be cool once it is

im thinking like leavanny in mimikyu cloth sewing its costume mid-battle

[serene narwhal]

Needle monstrosity

[coarse karma]

i'm back went to work on a fusion.

[cloud flume]

there are two types of mimikyu spriters

[silk cedar]

eldrich horrors and mini pokemon with dot eyes

[coarse karma]

as a swadloon enjoyer i'd love if leavanny got in.

[silk cedar]

@coarse karma

[coarse karma]

I made a swadloon last year when snorunt first got in.

[silk cedar]

adorable

now we need the boy in the flesh

[coarse karma]

yes.

[serene narwhal]

Absolutely

[silk cedar]

by the end of the vote we will convince the server that the leavanny line is the best choice

and it would also be a relatively early final evo for the BST and learnset bc it would be like 38 or whatever the friendship evos are set at

[serene narwhal]

Honestly agreed, leavany just seems like a good choice

[stuck bane]

It’ll be some tough competition, but I’d love it if it were leavanny, I’ll be pleasantly surprised if it’s a unova Mon, but mostly I have those little reasons list for each unova pal (Mon, guess which game I’ve been playing too much) just to get people considering them so they’re not just waved off because “high level evo”

[silk cedar]

we'd dodge that stigma tho bc friendship level evo

[coarse karma]

sadly skitty been hitting it low in votes cause of it's bad BST and bad learnset/

[prisma willow]

Any love for Liligant?

[coarse karma]

yes.

https://tenor.com/view/pokémon-spin-speen-lilligant-grass-type-pokemon-gif-5875405386001547453

[cloud flume]

i'm going to bed, its almost 11 for me rn

[stuck bane]

Absolutely, we haven’t forgotten what happened to the petilil in celadon

[silk cedar]

liligant is good, it has leverage because it has some good fusion potential, however its waved off a little because its a stone evo

[prisma willow]

I love the cute, little southern belle

[coarse karma]

almost 2am here, im so shleepy

[stuck bane]

Yeah but that doesn’t change most people assuming “oh they must all be rediculously high levels and I don’t even bother to check”

[coarse karma]

gn toblerone u sleep well :P

[prisma willow]

It's also learns quiver dance really early

[serene narwhal]

Leavany lilligent fusion

[silk cedar]

tru

[silk cedar]

if only, that would be sick

[stuck bane]

Lilligant: it WAS an overworld Mon, adds more grass types, it’s counterpart is already in the game, could bring the hilarious Pokédex entry “as soon as it finds a male partner,…” “it lives along lakes” (turtwig), “it can barely stand up” (ponyta), “it blows up at the slightest stimulation” (weezing), “their bodies are covered in wounds” (Deino), “it takes cover if it senses any hostility” (ralts), “they use all three heads to consume and destroy everything” (Hydreigon), good special attack and speed, only pure grass type that gets own tempo (for grass type head and body fusions), and it also learns petal dance unlike ludicolo, and is the only pure grass type with access to entrainment

[silk cedar]

couragestar, your local pokemon encyclopedia

[stuck bane]

Nah, just the unova mons, can’t be asked to do more

[silk cedar]

fair lol

[coarse karma]

still better than sunkern as a stone evo, who's idea was it to allow sunflora in the game in the very beginning of this project. could of had lilligant from the get go. then again they had no clue how far and long this project would actually go.

[prisma willow]

Isn't Liligant also one the handful of pokemon that can learn Quiver Dance? Right now it's just Butterfree, Venomoth, Bellossom, and Volcarona.

[serene narwhal]

Ribbombee too but the ship long has sailed

[twin phoenix]

Yeh, she's the queen of dance moves.

[stuck bane]

I made the list a while ago, but since it competes as a pure grass type quiver dancer against bellossom, I didn’t include it. These were just unique reasons the Pokémon could bring to the table

[prisma willow]

And it can't get confused by Petal Dance

[coarse karma]

https://tenor.com/view/hisuian-lilligant-pokemon-gif-13978849623923142488

[stuck bane]

Still a very good reason, and probably better than bellossom, but not a unique reason unfortunately

[twin phoenix]

TIL Pheromosa can learn Quiver Dance.

[serene narwhal]

I just realized

What about salazzle

[royal tree]

If you wan more grass types go for something like lurantis

[serene narwhal]

Hear me out, fire/poison type lizerd

With the unfortunate female stuff in there

The worst fusion material mon

[uneven geyser]

What about that g5 mushroom one?

[serene narwhal]

Foongus?

No

Just no.

[uneven geyser]

Or toxicroak?

[serene narwhal]

Toxicroak is cool

But I feel like leavannys a better fit for the game

[uneven geyser]

I can work with that too

The silk seamstress

I was only thinking foongus because maybe if fused with shroomish it’d make a goomba lol

https://tenor.com/view/super-mario-goomba-walking-walk-mad-gif-17716403

[serene narwhal]

Oh

[serene narwhal]

I was thanking of a...certain other game ..

[coarse karma]

talking about goombas is making me think of the stacked shroomish fusion

which is indeed inspired by the stacking goomba

[royal tree]

are they ever thinking of adding gen 5 starters?

Or more starters in general

[coarse karma]

currently no. it was sadly stated last fall the same as well.

I'm thinking it's cause they want to give non starters a chance, last year when the polls opened on the first day gen 5-7 starters were all outvoting everything so they removed them on the 2nd day, and are still holding off on releasing them until a later date.

That being said, Popplio actually still almost got snuck in last winter as a person who won a contest got the chance to add a new pokemon into a coin flip draw, meloetta ended up winning it though. here are the other 11 that meloetta was against and could have just of easily have won the final round.

[analog stag]

Two chances for Archeops and fate said no

Come on man

[coarse karma]

the reason why there are two archen is cause two seperate contest winners asked for it.

[coarse karma]

unfortunately oof.

[analog stag]

I was rooting for Xurkitree tbh

And Slurpuff

[coarse karma]

i was about to share a cool ice pop slurpuff fusion here.

[analog stag]

I gave Slurpuff a 3 cause we need more fairies and it has really good fusion potential

[coarse karma]

even if Eiscue will never be in the game could easily pass off as a Slurpuff/Piplup or prinplup alt fusion. as I showed earlier I have a swadloon in the game listed as a "metapod" lol.

[coarse karma]

honestly.

hehehe rattata spotted

@true wadi it's that time of the year again (not a real yearly thing, i'm just making a joke. and odd it happened twice in one year.), praying Slurpuff gets in for that cool lycanroc midday fusion u made.

[mild sedge]

time for my timely reminder to give eelektross a 3 :D

[hexed agate]

https://tenor.com/view/togedemaru-pikachu-marowak-alola-eevee-gif-2114594990032671965

[mild sedge]

relicanth is pretty nice ngl
(Autocorrect sucks 😭)

[edgy dune]

I would like to once again begin canvassing for Deerling and Sawsbuck. My primary argument is simply that they are my son's favourite Pokémon and he would be thrilled if they were added. If it sways you further it is in fact his birthday in a week, and if you were to give them at least a two you would be giving a child a nice birthday kindness.

[unkempt kernel]

Once again here to advocate for Pachirisu. Not only is it a cute mon with it being a pikaclone, but it also has a diverse movepool and offers more fairy type coverage for mons who could benefit from it. It’s also a squirrel, which gives a unique body type for spriters as PIF doesn’t have a squirrel Pokemon in it. As for using it as a head fusion, it does give mons its colour scheme and “squirrelification” so to speak, but you could probably do some unique things with it, such as blue lightning ambient effects or background effects, as most I see are yellow. That brings me to another point, it gives a unique colour scheme in white and blue for electric types, who are mostly yellow. Pachirisu would be a very versatile addition to PIF and would also not take as much time to add and sprite as say, the elemental monkeys who are 6 nearly identical Pokemon with very minor differences between them and don’t offer much else than red, green and blue

[remote spire]

My birth is also in 5 days so Liligant should be added please and thank you

[next sapphire]

WOAH A NEW CHANNEL

[remote spire]

It’s the LEAST you can do if tinkaton has no chance . . .

[next sapphire]

I MUST INFILTRATE IT

[unkempt kernel]

You should vote for Pachirisu

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-squirrel-pokemon-pokemon-pachirisu-adorable-gif-17099886384054803802

[remote spire]

Looking through the list just made me sad like there’s so many peak mons that won’t get added

[next sapphire]

Shuckle: The Unsung Champion
Don't be fooled by Shuckle's unassuming appearance. This tiny bug-rock type Pokémon is a strategic mastermind hiding in plain sight. With the highest Defense and Special Defense stats in the game, Shuckle is an impenetrable fortress. Imagine a tank so sturdy, even the most powerful attacks bounce off harmlessly.
But Shuckle's brilliance extends beyond defense. Its ability to learn a variety of support moves, like Power Split, Skill Swap, and Encore, makes it a versatile team player. Share your defenses with a teammate, steal an opponent's ability, or force them to repeat a move – Shuckle can turn the tide of battle in an instant.
While its offensive stats may seem underwhelming, don't underestimate Shuckle's potential. With moves like Power Trick, Acrobatics, and Rollout, it can surprise opponents with unexpected power. And let's not forget the strategic possibilities – imagine a Shuckle with Power Trick, transforming its incredible defenses into devastating offense.
Beyond its in-game prowess, Shuckle has captured the hearts of fans worldwide. Its underdog story and unique design have made it a beloved member of the Pokémon community.
So, next time you're building your team, don't overlook Shuckle. This unassuming little Pokémon is a strategic genius, a defensive titan, and a potential offensive powerhouse. It's time to give Shuckle the recognition it deserves.

haha

speed typing wins

[next sapphire]

where is it ?

I need to see it

[unkempt kernel]

In the announcement

[next sapphire]

where

I'm kind of blind

so dont mind

[remote spire]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jump-camera-cat-jumping-cat-rocket-gif-17784539269799085416

[unkempt kernel]

#announcements

[next sapphire]

just give a sign

for my mind

[unkempt kernel]

.

[next sapphire]

thanks man

don't know where I'd have ran

[unkempt kernel]

Vote 3 for Pachirisu btw

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-squirrel-pokemon-pokemon-pachirisu-adorable-gif-17099886384054803802

[next sapphire]

hmm

[remote spire]

https://tenor.com/view/lilligant-happy-smile-gif-529187512381127051

[unkempt kernel]

Here’s my argument for it

[remote spire]

She deserves it

[unkempt kernel]

Nah

[next sapphire]

I couldn't find the doc

for it

[remote spire]

Men hate it when girls want to have fun

[worldly sail]

oh

lilligant is a female lol

I thought it could be male too

[dark moth]

the hivemind needs YOU 🫵

[next sapphire]

nuf evah ot tnaw slrig nehw ti etah neM

[dark moth]

:malamar:

[next sapphire]

I'm never using the ability ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[next sapphire]

Wamen*

[worldly sail]

Ramen?

[next sapphire]

[next sapphire]

csm reference

[next sapphire]

where

[unkempt kernel]

It’s literally in #announcements

[next sapphire]

I saw it

[unkempt kernel]

Click the link then

[next sapphire]

I'd get hecked

[unkempt kernel]

No

It’s to a Google form

[next sapphire]

I can't go to it

[remote spire]

This guy is awesome

[agile olive]

you know if you click on it it says where it goes to before you go to it lol

[next sapphire]

im on phone

[unkempt kernel]

I did it on phone

[next sapphire]

when ur on a scammer website it says that too

[agile olive]

but this is discord app

you can't change the actual link lol

[next sapphire]

who knows

not me

[remote spire]

Ip grabber set up by the woke radical pachirisus

[unkempt kernel]

Nuh uh

[remote spire]

Rigging the election once again

[unkempt kernel]

It was those elemental monkeys

[worldly sail]

voted meh for them

[unkempt kernel]

Good

Anyway back to reminding ppl to vote for Pachirisu

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-uses-thunder-discharge-uses-discharge-gif-26992641

We don’t get blue lightning often

[hushed mantle]

No pikaclones pls

[unkempt kernel]

This one unique tho

[remote spire]

Peaked in 2015

[unkempt kernel]

Better then whatever slop the elemental monkeys probably make

[unkempt kernel]

2014 actually

[hushed mantle]

Anything is better than the monkeys to be fair

[unkempt kernel]

True

But Pachirisu offers a unique colour scheme for electric mons

[remote spire]

Wowwww you beat out literally the least popular mons

[unkempt kernel]

Like, how many electric mons in PIF are there that aren’t yellow?

[hushed mantle]

Luxray, zekrom, electrode

[unkempt kernel]

Ok that’s 3

And Luxray has some yellow

[remote spire]

How many mons have adorable grass dresses and hats?

[worldly sail]

does stunfisk count

[hushed mantle]

I think there is more, they just aren't in my head tho

[dark moth]

stunfisk

[unkempt kernel]

Stunfisk has yellow

[dark moth]

hes orage : )

[hushed mantle]

So does pachi

[unkempt kernel]

It has yellow

[remote spire]

Electrode

[unkempt kernel]

Yes but it’s not the main colour is my point

[dark moth]

magnezone

[unkempt kernel]

He’s brown and yellow

[dark moth]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-magnezone-draft-zone-gif-7166465271830634660

w h a t

[unkempt kernel]

That has a bit of yellow

[remote spire]

Zebstrika

[hushed mantle]

Not in if

[dark moth]

okay no ignore the yellow

[unkempt kernel]

Talking about stunfisk

[dark moth]

where is the brown 😭

[remote spire]

Dawg you lost

[dark moth]

oh

[remote spire]

https://tenor.com/view/lilligant-happy-smile-gif-529187512381127051

[unkempt kernel]

Not really, as there’s not very many

[remote spire]

We gave you like 8

[unkempt kernel]

And Pachirisu gives a unique body type

[dark moth]

is the lil urchin fucker from gen 7 in the game?

[remote spire]

And 0 against liligant

[unkempt kernel]

Yeah, and there’s probably triple that for primarily yellow in PIF

[unkempt kernel]

It’s gen 8 if you mean Pinchurchin

[dark moth]

that thing is gen 8???

[worldly sail]

snom is in gen 8

[dark moth]

holy shit we have have achieved a new "most forgettable pokemon"

[unkempt kernel]

Yes

[hushed mantle]

It's so forgettable not even future paradoxes want it 😭🙏

[worldly sail]

lmao

[mild sedge]

still holding out on eelektross

[worldly sail]

pyukumuku is gen 7

[remote spire]

No

[unkempt kernel]

Pachirisu is a better electric mon

[dark moth]

okay now you are pushing it

[unkempt kernel]

Did electross win a world championship?

Ofc I’m going to push for my favourite mon

[mild sedge]

I don’t blame you

[remote spire]

https://tenor.com/view/petilil-l-ratio-pokemon-cope-a-lil-gif-12913430428020201534

Dude

[unkempt kernel]

It’s like cold pushing for Liligant