pif-hoenn-discussion

[marble meadow]

i got one bingo for my if bingo table

let’s see if the final one gives me another bingo

[lofty spindle]

What would it need to be to achieve one?

[inland jewel]

The thing about triples is that Frogman is down to add them anytime, the criteria is that if you make one and post it, you have to give a justifiable reason as to why they are at triple, and have a sprite for it. THEN he will add it to the game

[lofty spindle]

Hm... do we have a third pollution Pokémon to fit Muk and Garbodor?

[white meadow]

doesn't weezing count?

[clever atlas]

Yeah Weezing, Muk and Garbodor make the trio

[white meadow]

Swalot.

[prime dust]

not in the game

and he isn't really pollution related so...

[lofty spindle]

Oh yeah perfect, could make for a triple-mon I was thinking.

[high haven]

Today might be the last day, this whole event has been pretty fun

[upper talon]

🥲 it may be

[brave vapor]

Should have the "it's just a bird" trio.
Pidgeot, Noctowl, Swellow

[prime dust]

small issue there

[junior notch]

Would have to be Fearow as pideot is 3 stage

[prime dust]

ignores the fact Swellow isn't in the game

[lapis gate]

yet

[silent acorn]

I love you bro sniff

[white meadow]

I really hope to get the update today

[high haven]

Sniff Love you too brah

[cobalt nebula]

Will they rid this channel, archive it? Delete it? will all we said be lost to the void.

[prime dust]

they'll prob keep it around til the winner's raffle reveal

[next orchid]

Wait, are no new pokemon ever being added to the game after this?

[prime dust]

nothing is set in stone

we have one more reveal waiting, and then after it is pretty much just as Hypnotoad has time/wants to add mons

[next orchid]

Well, I can't be mad. We already have far more than I ever anticipated so I appreciate all the work that's went into this

[inland jewel]

finally, we will have more than a mainline switch pokemon game

[rotund loom]

and that game is?

[inland jewel]

all of them without dlc

[cobalt nebula]

My theory? They will allow 1 set of starters in the future

[rotund loom]

Alola would be FIRE

[inland jewel]

they explicitely stated they're gonna add all the starters from 5-7

[lofty spindle]

My theory about starters is that we'll see a fun nod to Legends and see Rowlet, Oshawott and Fennekin introduced together.

[rotund loom]

Greninja is good but delphox and chestnaught arent that great

[inland jewel]

so the next batch will probably be them + what frogman wants

[rotund loom]

Add Eisuce-
(RIP EISUCE)

https://tenor.com/view/eiscue-pokemon-pmex-angry-angwy-gif-24180526

[prime dust]

um no...the wording was they might add the starters

#pif-hoenn-discussion message

[inland jewel]

they might add the other pokemon from gens 3-7, its just a matter of time until they do

might is choice wording to save people from expecting it right away

[peak zealot]

Hopefully we eventually get all 800 or so from gens 1-7.

[inland jewel]

with the amount of room for pokemon, its very much possibl

the only thing preventing this from happening is solo dev team with 0 time

[remote crest]

I dont think the Game quite needs it

But eh people always think more is better

[inland jewel]

unforunately people be expecting the thing where all pokemon get into a game.

they just want to use their favorite mon in a franchise that had always said "gotta catch them all" and with a slogan like that, there are a few people attactched to specific mons that don't always get into the mainline games
(Glameow absent since Platinum)
(Minior since Alola)
Furfrou since Kalos
And Venomoth until SV

[peak zealot]

I’m not even asking for all the Pokémon- I am under the impression that the game can only do gens 1-7.

[inland jewel]

yeah, and people be asking for all pokemon from gens 1-7

doubts are saying, don't add them

[sullen elbow]

when was the last time they actually used that slogan?

[marble meadow]

for another bingo i need pumkaboo or liligant

[inland jewel]

the SwSh anime

is the most recent example i can think of, but i sort of swore off official pokemon media since so.

[sullen elbow]

oh yeah, Goh

[frosty dagger]

I mean technically it could do all 9 but I think it would require a ton spriting and coding

[white meadow]

who cares about later gens anyway, gen 7 is already enough 👍

[inland jewel]

I want Copperajah, and Espathra

[frosty dagger]

Cause other games can but the first 7 are perfectly fine

[marble meadow]

gen4 was peak and also had the best champ in my opinion

[inland jewel]

anything past 7 was a miss.

[eager token]

gen 5 best gen

[marble meadow]

i stilll get ptsd fighting her in bw bw2

[frosty dagger]

I want rillaboom but it wasn't a choice so what ever the other 2 in my top 3 are in tho

[marble meadow]

but the hardest on was volo

[frosty dagger]

Well volo did cheat a bit and fought you with 8 pokemon

[marble meadow]

speaking of if some of the old and new mons could be mario wonder refs

[white meadow]

well palossand is literally a castle soo

[mystic rivet]

oh interesting. not that i would ever end up making one, but i wonder what "justifiable" means exactly?

[inland jewel]

starter trio,
Legendary bird trio
Legndary dogs trio
The hitmons
The kanto eevees
Manmade themed
The creation trio

[mystic rivet]

but that should mean the regis have a pretty good shot at it, seeing as they were popular enough to get in from the raffle in the first place.

noticed i repeated myself. i literally just woke up like 60 seconds ago lol

[inland jewel]

someone just needs to create a regi trio fusion

[meager python]

What is your guys opinion on the WORST new mon introduced (including mod and spriter choices)

[mystic rivet]

i've seen a couple in this discord alone, but nothing that really stands out.

[inland jewel]

lycanroc

[mystic rivet]

for triple regi sprite i mean. not the new mons lol

[meager python]

That is one burning hot take

[inland jewel]

that or goodra

no, its just that golisopod was right there.

[meager python]

Everyone seems to hate goodra, for what reason?

[eager token]

Goodra is adorable

[meager python]

Golisopod woulda been fire

[inland jewel]

most boring psuedo, from the general concensous

[mystic rivet]

but yeah, lycanroc was pretty lackluster for me. dogs are cool and all, but we had so many more interesting pokemon to choose from. but that's why it wasn't part of the initial vote winners i suppose.

[eager token]

One of the top dragons, I will hear nothing to the contrary

[meager python]

Dragonite…

[craggy lynx]

In general, the most overrated gen 6 mon, would rather have someone like Golisopod over Goodra

[inland jewel]

Dragonite got the gen 1 stans backing it, Nobody liked Goodra till the Hisuian version came out

[meager python]

Dragonite was unique in gen 1 when it was the ONLY dragon type

[meager python]

Genwunners dont get opinions

[inland jewel]

agreed

[mystic rivet]

i always liked goodra line, but pure dragon is pretty boring as a typing.

[craggy lynx]

wait genwunners still exist?
I thought that they vanished after the gen 5 hate cooled down

[meager python]

Water dragon is what it shoulda been

[eager token]

Goodra is basically the only gen 6 pokemon I really like

[orchid flare]

Straight up, I hadn't even noticed that Altaria didn't exist up until now

[mystic rivet]

water dragon would have made so much sense, and combined with the hisuian form, it would have been really cool to share the typing with both palkia and dialga.

though i never understood why palkia was water to begin with.

[meager python]

Tbf there were better options then goodra…

Like Kommo-o

[white meadow]

So close

[meager python]

Cool anchor fusions tho

[eager token]

Kommo-o is lame.

[meager python]

You probably think bruxish has a good design

[mystic rivet]

i'd have made it psychic dragon or something. maybe it makes sense with pearls, but the pokemon itself doesn't feel water at all.

[eager token]

I'm not a fan of most of the Alolan pokemon

[meager python]

Its a swamp dragon…

[eager token]

Rowlet is the only reason I bought the game, but god does it's move pool suck

[fallen loom]

sooo... when's the update out?

[meager python]

This offends me on so many levels. Only one I “dislike” is crabominble

[mystic rivet]

soon™️

[inland jewel]

don't they normally announce stuff 12-4 est?

so not for another few hours

[meager python]

Why do you hate gen 7?

Like genuine question

[marble meadow]

malamar would be cool cuz contrary ability

[inland jewel]

if you takeout the cutscenes and hand holding, its a genuinely good game

[fallen loom]

cutscenes?

I mean that is a good reason to hate it

[inland jewel]

which is why i start my playthroughs of it from my after-trainer school save state

[meager python]

But he specified that he didnt like the mons

[fallen loom]

Gen 7 is the last Gen before dexit ruined everything (I know LGPE started it, I just mean main, main games)

[inland jewel]

which makes it the last good gen

[eager token]

Gameplay, none of the designs really stuck out, the mechanics are just overall lame? Plus, the story itself just sorta... stopped half-way through, then you have two big battles before they demand more money to finish the story they were telling.

[inland jewel]

i mean, don't play SM, you play USUM

[fallen loom]

USUM is worse because of a plothole

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-james-team-rocket-pokemon-gif-25091008

[meager python]

Yea thats what the rule of thumb was before gen 8… wait for the 2nd games to be released

[fallen loom]

I wish that was still a thing

[meager python]

the Ultra necrozma fight is a good enough reason by itself to get the game

[eager token]

X and Y/Omega & Alpha were the last games I enjoyed, and then X/Y had a really lame late-game. But megas were cool enough for me to like it

[fallen loom]

DLC doesn't fix the base region being bad, unlike 3rd versions

[meager python]

Thats a fair opinion.

[marble meadow]

platinum was peak

[eager token]

Platinum was real good, but I put the most hours into B/W 2

[fallen loom]

B2W2 were the best

[meager python]

I liked platinum but I think im biased to 3d games

[white meadow]

First time agreeing to you

[eager token]

The switch to 3D is half the reason I dislike the new games tbh

Because the early 3D makes all the designs... bad. The textures aren't there and they clearly haven't figured out how to make use of actual 3D art

[marble meadow]

speaking of thinks i just want another pokemon fighting game i like pokemon tekken

[meager python]

X/Y and alola was good, then they completely switches tunes in gen 8.

[fallen loom]

SV has better textures on Pokémon

[meager python]

My primary issue with 3d is the attack animations…

[eager token]

Yeah, with Legends they started to figure it out, there's some really good ones. But I just dislike SV designs in general. None of them make me go "I want that"

[meager python]

They are just so… bland?

[fallen loom]

funny, because LA solved it

[white meadow]

aaand they proceded to take a step back with sv

[meager python]

Then they backtracked in gen 9

[fallen loom]

too bad they didn't delay SV another year so they could make more DLC for LA

[meager python]

But it’s probably 2 different dev teams for spinoff and main series

[eager token]

I'm also just a major sucker for good pixel art.

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-teal-mask-teal-mask-dlc-pokemon-dlc-ogerpon-gif-18190853017296523044

[meager python]

Truly an IF player

[meager python]

I hate ogrepon cuz competitive

[fallen loom]

too bad they removed those from Pokémon menus (no thanks to BDSP)

[mint grotto]

bdsp was just insultingly bad a remake

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-malamar-anime-laugh-gif-9694741

oh and malamar would give me a bingo

[meager python]

They make a banger remake with ORAS then do that

[eager token]

I've been replaying PMD: Sky lately, and some of the scenes they managed to pull off are genuinely super pretty

[fallen loom]

ORAS is an OK remake, they really needed to add in Gym rematches and the BF

[marble meadow]

i want a pmd sky remake with new bonus episodes

[fallen loom]

bonus Chatot episode

[eager token]

ORAS was a good remake... only because Megas are cool, and it's the last time we really got them

[fallen loom]

SM and USUM had them

[mint grotto]

i want to beat up team skull in a sky remake mainly stunktank

[eager token]

They did, yes. But no new ones. Unless I'm misremembering

[white meadow]

they could have totally made at least a cool gmax looking form for the creation dragons (idk the trio name), it would even made sense since they are basically reality warpers

[fallen loom]

but ORAS was the only game to implement Megas in properly (as in all over the region from the start)

[white meadow]

then again ig implementing gmax would more complicated than megas

[fallen loom]

turn GMax into Megas

[white meadow]

since even on swsh you couldn't even use them on any route

[eager token]

More than anything, I want a sequel or at least a game in that style again. The latter MD games just completely dropped the tone and mysticism that made that game really fun. I want it back so bad.

[marble meadow]

ultrabeast where neat

[eager token]

UBs were... okay

[mint grotto]

i wasent a fan of the UBs but i liked the idea of space pokemon

[eager token]

They were like. Meh. Some of them are cool. But it doesn't really change the game much.

[fallen loom]

I like the Paradox Pokémon more than UBs

[eager token]

Feels like they could have done more with UBs than they did

[cyan hare]

Final reveal today of the raffle?

[coral solar]

I really liked the concept of alternate-dimension Pokemon that were just weird.

Though I do wish their abilities were more diverse, seeing as they're all supposed to be from different worlds.

[marble meadow]

yeah i also hope we get a few more convergent mons in the 2nd dlc and more regional variants

[fallen loom]

the second DLC is mostly Gen 1-4 Pokémon and starters

[marble meadow]

anyway i like the concept of regional and convergent forms

[fallen loom]

the issue with convergent forms is they have the same BST as Gen 1 Pokémon, making them competitively dead unless they have a better type or moveset

[marble meadow]

i know what i will shiny hunt its gonna be zebstirka

[balmy bison]

AYO

AYO?!

LYCANROC REAL?!?!?!111?!12?1

[mint grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/lycanroc-pokemon-wet-hair-shake-it-off-dirty-gif-13798618

[coral solar]

Man it's so weird seeing people just now hopping into the server and pogging at Lycanroc a week after the fact

[outer matrix]

But with no dusk form

[coral solar]

Stop malding, man

[mint grotto]

quick question whay does malding mean

[coral solar]

Being mad

[mint grotto]

ah thanks

[coral solar]

Well, specifically

It's being mad about sudden or excessive hair loss

But most people use it for just being angry in general

[inland jewel]

you do know they were different teams right?

[eager token]

Uh... yeah? I never inferred they were the same team? I said that the pokemon games started to use proper texturing for the mons starting from Legends? And I dislike gen 9 designs?

[marble meadow]

anyway goota go playing mk 8 gonna check whats new later

[feral bear]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-remake-cloud-strife-tifa-lockhart-aerith-gainsborough-cloti-gif-27060423

[inland jewel]

Does he

[smoky fractal]

not really tho, I enjoyed it. Could they have done some things better, yeah. But it wasn't really a bad remake

[sullen elbow]

Can you not spoil?🥺

[feral bear]

I did not elaborate! That could mean anything

[sullen elbow]

True I don't know what that means but please don't elaborate

[feral bear]

I wont, i promise 👁️👄👁️

[white meadow]

So... Is there going to be the Reveal Today?

[high haven]

Possibly

[mossy reef]

I didn't even know the 2nd DLC got leaked already. Now I'm curious though...

[slim bone]

Same, I even looked at Reddit & can’t find any mon leaks for indigo disk lol

[mystic rivet]

how lucky you are to be oblivious to spoilers

[outer matrix]

It's mainly stubbed out dex entries for Pokémon that are planned to return in dlc 2

[cyan hare]

Chances of the final line being revealed today?

[junior notch]

I mean dont we only have discoblob's decision left?

[inland jewel]

no, their choice was added to winner's raffle, which is most likely revealed today or tomorrow

[sharp nebula]

small, the raffle pick will be announced after the update

pick one, lilligant or froslass?

[junior notch]

Seeing how the update releases tomorrow, I assume today

[inland jewel]

Frogman sorta said that it would be released today though

[sharp nebula]

its coming after the update

[feral bear]

Discoblob already decided

[inland jewel]

sure they can announce it this weekend, but it'll be implimented after the update

[junior notch]

They said this weekend didnt they

[inland jewel]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message

also, doesn't Saturday count as, this weekend?

[sharp nebula]

.

pick one, lilligant or froslass?

[inland jewel]

lilli

[junior notch]

Yeah, I was just unsure when they said today

[wanton coral]

But not dusk form unfortunately

[junior notch]

Kk yeah this makes sense now, back to gentle madmaning

[inland jewel]

well, its getting near when they normally announce mons for the whole reveal thing, but then again they also went as late as 9 at night

[hollow quest]

lilligant is the only possible one, unless you're just trollin

[sharp nebula]

i didnt say what its for

[hollow quest]

[sharp nebula]

just pick one

[silk narwhal]

Froslass

[umbral river]

Is the Infinite Fusions Calculator gonna be updated tomorrow with the new Pokemon along with the game update? I don't usually play the game but my friends and I love to just look up the Pokemon fusions using that

[sterile verge]

so is the update out?

[umbral river]

Tomorrow I think is when it releases

[sharp nebula]

do you see it in #announcements ?

[tardy flame]

we don't know exactly what day its going to update, either today or tomorrow, and we don't know if other things are going to update or when

[umbral river]

Gotcha

[sharp nebula]

one for each

[inland jewel]

since the tools use the game files, we have to wait for the game update to be released before the tools change to add the new stuff

[sterile verge]

sir i havent existed in this server long enough to know how they do updates in this game, save your sass for someone who cares 🙄

[sterile verge]

kk

[outer matrix]

The daena website is getting itself ready for the new update as they are inputting the website data for the Pokémon

[umbral river]

The Daena website?

[sharp nebula]

the last update was in september but whatever

[tardy flame]

there was a gentle implication that the update would happen today but it isn't hard confirmed so just wait and see with da rest of us at this point we don't have all of the info

[outer matrix]

anyone know how to do the bot tag for the daena website?

[inland jewel]

you'd have better chance seeing it in #ask-a-bot

[mossy reef]

Haha, yep. I went to the usual internet place that leaks Pokemon stuff, and...there's literally nothing being datamined RN, so I don't know what that one guy was going on about, as much as I want to see the new Entei/Terrakion forms.

[hollow quest]

it's a month away, i wouldn't be surprised if somethin is leaked

[outer matrix]

I remember saving the supposed list of part 2 Pokémon somewhere in my phone gallery

[inland jewel]

i mean, on that list Swanna was regulated to part 2, but no, we got it in part 1

[mystic rivet]

gonna get some lunch i think, hopefully update out by the time i'm done.

[silent acorn]

||#announcements||

[mystic rivet]

yeah, what about it?

[silent acorn]

Did you have a nice lunch?

[ruby breach]

I still can't believe regirock got more votes than meloetta or gen 6 legendaries

[mystic rivet]

haven't actually gotten up to make anything yet cuz i'm easily distracted

[mint grotto]

as much as i love the regi trio thematicly for the game i was hopeing for meloetta as i had so many ideas for music based fusions like a conductor gardivior or like a ninetails made of musical notes

[sharp nebula]

i love the meloetta appreciation in this place, pretty much everyone agrees that its a great pick

[hollow quest]

well yes, it has extreme potential with its heavy music themes, and to top it all off, it's just a little cutie

[weak trellis]

yea I think the sound fusions are currently going to the Puffs which slaps you with a pink/white color scheme as well

[proud lion]

Un un un

[ruby breach]

Wut

[proud lion]

The Regirock ununun meme

https://youtu.be/-ufLh2QOowc?feature=shared

[white meadow]

yes

[proud lion]

If Purplecliffe ever returns to Infinite Fusion, he should do a new LP with the started being the legendary UNster

[high haven]

I can

[mint grotto]

i wonder what the regi triple fusion will be like

[crude vortex]

i genuinely hadn't seen any meloetta fans until i joined this server

[tardy flame]

I absolutely love the regis and barely know who meloetta is, I wouldn't vouch for them

[ruby breach]

Aren't Nintendo pushing out something that doesn't allow content creation for romhacks?

[vagrant mountain]

Is there any more info on when the new mons will be introduced ?

[ruby breach]

Today or tomorrow

[outer matrix]

Infinite Fusion isn't a romhack

[vagrant mountain]

oh, si they are planned for the next udpate then

[ruby breach]

Not just romhacks. Anything that is fan made

I don't know the word for it

[hollow quest]

fangame?

[white meadow]

They'd have to Shut down Pokemon Showdown for that, so I doubt that Nintendo would do that. Besides, Gamefreak is the group that runs Pokemon, not Nintendo

So there's no need to worry about it

[prime dust]

the last big fangame they shut down was Uranium

at this point i think they might have realized it isn't worth attempting to fight every fan game out there [because there are a lot]

[lament cypress]

Will there be dusk form lycanrock

[prime dust]

there's a pinned comment for that

[lament cypress]

oh

[mint grotto]

and to be fair uranuim just poped up elsewhere

[mystic rivet]

yes "shut down"

[stiff storm]

Did Uranium try to make money off pokemon or something? Or did they get targeted just because?

[hollow quest]

just because

[mystic rivet]

they were scared they couldn't make as good a game

[prime dust]

well if the first was an issue, there are other games they would have gone after

most of the pokemon mmos have microtransations

[mint grotto]

like if they did take downs on those id get it but not games with no monitsation

[white meadow]

Wouldn't that strike down Pokemon Unite too?

[hollow quest]

unite was published by TPC and Nintendo, why would that be struck down

[prime dust]

be funny if they hit their own game

[upper talon]

like punch

[prime dust]

no like "How dare you make money off Pokemon" and then file a massive lawsuit

[upper talon]

ok

[timid sorrel]

Nah, I think they're putting it in writing to avoid future public scenarios.

[white meadow]

Because Unite is also an mmo too, so they'd cancel their own games with Lawsuits against Pokemon Mmos

[timid sorrel]

I don't think they're actually going to take any different steps than they're taking currently. It's just future proofing, basically.

[prime dust]

yes but that was endorsed by nintendo, the other ones aren't

[white meadow]

Okay. But is Pixelmon endorsed by Nintendo?

[prime dust]

that already got hit once

[white meadow]

And it's still not down, no matter how it gets hit.

[hollow quest]

clearly didn't do much though, they're still kickin

[prime dust]

i know

thus why I said I think they kind of gave up

[zenith relic]

Can't wait for today's update!!

[prime dust]

it just takes too much time and money to try and take the stuff down

[mystic rivet]

god forbid they let fans show passion for their franchise

[silent acorn]

That's more like a mod, they can keep bringing it down unless the creator goes somewhere where that's not as likely

[white meadow]

Nintendo, seriously: just take a page out of Sonic or Dragon Ball, and let the people do what they want

[outer matrix]

But what about Sonic?

[silent acorn]

Dragon ball be awesome

You can make fan mangas and parodies and they are like "ok but don't make it worse"

Like dragon ball evolution. Is what happens when you do worse In dragon ball

[mint grotto]

we do not speak of dragonball evolution

[prime dust]

what ever you are smoking pass it around, that doesn't exist

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cant-handle-the-truth-a-few-good-men-silence-the-truth-jack-nicholson-handle-the-truth-gif-16921393

[prime dust]

we can and have, its on the list of movies we don't mention

[silent acorn]

But yes I am smoking vileplume is really wicked

[white meadow]

GT exists but Evolution doesn't?

[mint grotto]

gt has good ideas it was just poorly done

[prime dust]

see there's non-canon and stuff that doesn't exist

[silent acorn]

Gt is awesome what nonsense are you spewing

[prime dust]

GT exists but isn't canon

[silent acorn]

Granted it has annoying bits but goddamn if for its time it wasn't fun.

Like I love how the dragon balls were the final villains. Omega shenron has my favorite villain design

Definetely felt right for its time compared to say beers

They didn't recycle much back then

[mint grotto]

it makes me wonder what would have happened if those dragonballs were over used for evil wishs

[silent acorn]

Bulma made the selfish wishes which apparently overcharged them from overuse, and she still at it in Super

[tardy flame]

dang, the waiting room for the update has turned to hard off topic while I was gone?

[mint grotto]

when is this room ever on topic

[silent acorn]

Thing is GT had some really dark themes such as betrayal from brothers, body fraud with oceanus, goku going blind.

[silent acorn]

Going a bit off topic ain't gonna blow up the server

[mint grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-gt-dance-gif-8211372867866993176

[silent acorn]

Also the days of this one are counted anyways.

[bitter pier]

If I started a new game and the update comes out afterwards, will I have to restart to incorporate the new mons?

[mint grotto]

i dont think so but i plan on restarting

[tardy flame]

I would recommend waiting

[potent venture]

oim planning on doing a goomy only team when the update is released since goomy is my favorite pokemon

[mint grotto]

i might do an ice only run

with debug only for the hm replacements as i hate hms

[silent acorn]

I am Just gonna do a zero run.

I messed my files too much trying to update the old way.

Also... Need to replace the ugly hag with the nice doggo

[hushed mantle]

Let’s pray they don’t decide to make a trainer use blissey/toxapex on the new update

[outer matrix]

Why?

[tardy flame]

I hope my child toxapex causes many problems

[hushed mantle]

Two of the worst pokemon to face against

[mint grotto]

it would be a mean fusion

[stiff storm]

I mean, Blissey head makes anything fat

[tardy flame]

blissey fat head like that work out in the library meme

[marble meadow]

good that it comes out next month cuz i gonna be busy with mario rpg i may also do an mario rpg themed run with some of the old and new mons

[potent venture]

@marble meadow it comes out today or tomorrow not next month

[grand hull]

Hopefully it comes out today

[white meadow]

I wish the update would be there already

[marble meadow]

i mean the sv dlc but i will play the if update in the weekend but during my work days i play mario rpg

[grand hull]

I just wanna see my sprites in the game (and use them)

[marble meadow]

can,t wait to see more ref sprites with new mons beeing added

[grand hull]

Wait is luvdisc in the game?

[thorny ferry]

Yes

[hollow creek]

same

[sullen elbow]

Maybe

[hollow creek]

gotta wait next month till me REAL good sprites are in the game

[grand hull]

I wanna make a luvdisc lycanroc fusion

[thorny ferry]

Just wait till they release the update and every mon in the poll is there

[grand hull]

That would be so funny (I hope it’s true)

[thorny ferry]

It's true (trust)

[grand hull]

I’m trusting (I’m manifesting)

I’m gonna shiny hunt in sv now

While I manifest

[thorny ferry]

Hope you find a shiny luvdisc

[grand hull]

Honestly me too I wouldn’t be mad

[thorny ferry]

Luvdisc for the win 🗣️

[sullen elbow]

Shiny luvdisc is kinda cool

[grand hull]

The gold/yellow is really nice

II thought I saw a shiny salandit 😔

[clever atlas]

You find a shiny salandit:
It's male:

[mystic rivet]

i have 6 shiny male combee in Legends. and even skipped a few.

[sullen elbow]

Just wait till gen 25 when they add a male salandit evo

[clever atlas]

Yeah the 7 to 1 gender ratio for both combee and salandit is a massive kick in the groin by GF

Even if lorewise it makes sense for both

[outer matrix]

I literally have 4 male ones

[sullen elbow]

Just transfer it to swsh to do that glitch (did they even patch it out?)

[white meadow]

pokemon patching glitches?!?!?

[weak trellis]

at least salandit can be an alright pokemon with eviolite. combee on the other hand is a "helpless" pokemon which means it basically gets no TMs or anything outside of its level-up movepool

[white meadow]

oh well ig they do patch the useful ones

[feral bear]

Im naming my dorter Gorgonzola

[silent acorn]

Ever watched miss frog say that

[silent acorn]

That's a very good point actually. But I want it for vespiquen and nothing else

I can wait though, it's not essential since the team gave attack order to Beedrill anyway

Hmmm well with fusions you could technically make radically different versions of them

[weak trellis]

plus you can also just make any vesp fusions alts for beedrill ones until then

[silent acorn]

By the way gonna be positive and since we are close to done, I wanna ask everyone to come up with their best luvdisc fusion ideas since the horror is inevitable

Gonna make a compilation so future generations have more of an idea how to survive it.

I am starting the "Painful Luv Book" , so everyone can have something to reference to if they try fusing the most unfusable pokemon ever conceived

[pure flower]

It still kind of rubs me wrong that Beedrill has attack order but none of the pack pokemon can gain it via fusing with a bug type

[silent acorn]

Can't do much about it without vespiquen, now give me your luvdisc idea

[pure flower]

you use half of the Luvdisc body as the head, in a sideways V, and the rest as the tail.

for whatever fusion

[high haven]

Might not be today

[silent acorn]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BbZSsUqNKcQNEt6GRgIcaEd5sNXy3WJpqt19aWjHMPk/edit?usp=drivesdk

Ok I think there is the link, can everyone access it?

Its just a luvdisc idea compilation. Basically, a mental challenge

[inland jewel]

wouldn't this be better in #spriter-general ?

there is a ton of people who actually could put it into practice

[sand mica]

Skuntank needs to be in.

[silent acorn]

Can you tell me if it's open to everyone? Like can you write anything in it?

[white meadow]

When is the update

[silent acorn]

I'll tell them over at spriter general but I would like to know if it works

[inland jewel]

no, requires access to view/comment/etc

you just have to set it to public,

[silent acorn]

Ok let me do so

[tranquil path]

This is when we find out the raffle winner got an oc into the game

[silent acorn]

Ok I change it, frost can you write anything on the doc I shared?

[silent acorn]

This one.

[clever atlas]

Ok im going to sleep, hoping i can update tommorow

[silent acorn]

Help me out man.

[inland jewel]

viewed, edit, and can add

[silent acorn]

Ok thank you

I saw you, yeah I think it works

Just gonna write some little rules there. Mostly for order

[graceful torrent]

ready for the update any second now

[tough tapir]

Anyone knows if we'll be getting sprite pack update along with game update?

[junior notch]

The update will have a bunch of new sprites with it, especially for the new mons

For example, a lot of the necrozma fusions from the contest will be in it

[tough tapir]

Ah, okay, that's great

Thanks

[proud lion]

Did this as an alt a while ago to paralell Calrex who is banned from the IF roster

[silent acorn]

Well there it is... Man it's never easy proposing anything

I left my luvdisc idea compilation thing at #spriting-discussion

[hollow creek]

update probably isnt coming till tomorrow

[south sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-20100527

[radiant briar]

https://tenor.com/view/angai313-spongebob-sad-spongebob-crying-gif-21679826

[fickle rain]

https://tenor.com/view/mickey-mouse-mickey-mouse-clubhouse-mickey-mouse-clubhouse-sad-mickey-mouse-clubhouse-mickey-sad-mickey-mouse-club-house-mickey-sad-walking-gif-13206007519278579488

[whole nimbus]

Aww oh well. Hey if it's an extra day that means it's an extra day of dev time. I think it'll be worth it

[hushed mantle]

Who knows, maybe it comes later today

[radiant briar]

Respectfully, I do not think the devs have Flash time. Any changes made in 1 day would prolly just be very minor tweaks

[hollow creek]

Maybe later tonight

[steel bramble]

Thanksgiving weekend!

[whole nimbus]

I'm sure but it means there could be less bugs on release

[grand hull]

Honestly I’m guessing it’s gonna come out at 8:00

[hollow quest]

why 8 specifically

[hollow creek]

frog said it was coming out in 2 days, 2 days ago but maybe there's some timezone im not aware of

[hollow quest]

idk what time zone dizzy means

[grand hull]

I forget what timezone im in wait

EST is my timezone

And I have a weird feeling it’s coming out at 8:00 cause it’s calling out to me

[hollow quest]

lol okay

[lofty spindle]

Which timezone?

Ah, I see you posted.

So uh... what was the Discord thing you can do where it shows a time while considering timezone?

[grand hull]

No idea

[white meadow]

When is Thanksgiving? I'm Spanish

[mystic rivet]

i think the 27th? i don't celebrate holidays really. the only reason i know at all is because the buses don't run on certain ones so i need to request off for it.

[radiant briar]

23rd

[white meadow]

I tought it was 4 of November lmao

Wasn't there a party there that's on the 4 of July or so?

[prime dust]

yes, but thanksgiving is always on thurdsday; the last thursday of november

thus leaving the last friday of the month as the worst day for you to shop

[silent acorn]

Woooooooooooooo update is not coming today

[stone cliff]

There's still a lot of today left

Although I have no idea what time zone Mr. Frog is in

That being said, he also said "like two days", so I definitely wouldn't take that as a definite date lol

[grand hull]

Depends on timezone

[silent acorn]

Update is coming today ||somewhere||

[white meadow]

While we wait here have my new fav Pizza

[upper talon]

dude it's 5:35 pm how long are we going to wait

[white meadow]

Pov me who waits since 7 am now its 11.30 pm

[silent acorn]

Until Cipher oyster pizza gets moldy

Or you pass me 5 bucks to twist the earth's magnetic pole

[white meadow]

Bad that I ate it so it cant get moldy

[silent acorn]

Until you ||oopsie daisy||

[inland jewel]

That’s relative to you, I still have 8 hours left

[white meadow]

And its actually Shrimp, mussels, octopus and Garlic

[silent acorn]

And once those 8 are up?

[inland jewel]

Then I’ll join you

[upper talon]

comedy

[silent acorn]

In ||bed||? No

[inland jewel]

I’m saying no update today

[silent acorn]

Alrighty

[whole nimbus]

Bro I'm checking the updates every hour lol

[silent acorn]

Actually I got like 4 to 6 ish hours before full sleep hits me.

[whole nimbus]

I'm so ready to be able to fuse my boi

[silent acorn]

Trust me I wanna download this beash to my laptop so I can start grinding

Wonder what the location for doggo is gonna be.

[grand hull]

Post game

[silent acorn]

They mention mareanie and dhelmise was the post-game one didn't they?

[grand hull]

I hope not

[inland jewel]

It is since it sequence breaks a bit of the game

Since he said that instead of the marenie doll you need marenie to scare away corsola

[grand hull]

Well looks like I’m doing an only new Pokémon run randomized

[silent acorn]

Too bad for you it is.

[grand hull]

Wait does that mean in randomized mode you can get through sevii islands early

[silent acorn]

Also like lycanroc is not game breaking. Come on now

[silent acorn]

Apparently. Well no idea how will randomized work with this.

I get to make mareanie gardevoir eventually

[hollow creek]

Toxapex pre-elite 4 would be broken af

[silent acorn]

Would be fun

[grand hull]

Good thing I’m gonna use it fused with froslass

[white meadow]

for what? it's not like people want to make a stall playstyle against npcs, right?

[tardy flame]

you don't need to make a stall playstyle against npcs, you can fuse merciless onto something that retains good attacking stats after fusion

[silent acorn]

I was making a Blissey/Froslass I can tell you that by my calculations it would be broken AF

Yes should be broken

[stiff storm]

I fuse with the hope that one day, one day, battling/trading with other players will be a thing. Then 6 blissy head stall teams will be my greetings 😄

[hollow creek]

oh crap with all the new mons available pre elite 4 i might actually be able to do my run of only using my own sprites for each gym + elite 4

[prime dust]

it won't

RPG Maker isn't exactly the best game engine to use for multiplayer games; there is 1 plugin I have been able to find for 2 other variants of the engine...and it's been "dead" [no development progress] for 1 year (and it's in beta)

that should give you a rough idea of how complex it is

[alpine inlet]

Guys the update is coming today I swear

[wanton coral]

Bro playing against other players would become so toxic

[prime dust]

the closest this game has gotten to multiplayer was an unofficial pokemon showdown

that is currently, dead

the person who made it put the project on indefinite maintenance mode because it was buggy a f

[hollow quest]

also probably because it was a total shitshow

[prime dust]

no the person outright stated it got shunted because it was too buggy

[hollow quest]

well it was a total shitshow of wonder guard, mold breaker and that stuff too

[prime dust]

that's just showdown in a nut shell

[hollow quest]

yeah but it's especially amplified in IF's case

[prime dust]

beyond that, just do a search via google or bing for RPG Maker multiplayer, you'll likely find the same stuff I did, the 1 instance of a beta plugin for 2 variants of the game engine [which is dead] and a bunch of discussions on forums saying it is doable but just highly improbable due to time/money

[stiff storm]

yeah, we'd need rulesets or something to play by, otherwise why wouldn't competetive peeps just fuse the best BST/broken comboes.

[prime dust]

now imagine trying to keep rulesets in place when this server has...the amount of people it does

double/triple that at minimum if mp became a thing

I'm good never having multiplayer be a thing here; if you want a pokemon fangame with multiplayer, there are plenty that already exist

[white meadow]

For all that want a nice Dragon/Water mon in the update

[silk narwhal]

I want my three favorite children in the update

[white meadow]

They will be

[silk narwhal]

Yippee

[sterile spoke]

Everything until the Rockruff line will be in the next update. 🙂

[white meadow]

We know and thats awesome

[sterile spoke]

It's the raffle Pokémon that won't be, due to the raffle coinciding with the update itself. 😅

[hollow creek]

My boy cactophlosion

[wanton coral]

Well fusing the best BST isn't even that good, it's more about synergy of stats/abilities/moves etc

[cerulean wing]

I fuse to make cool fusions

[wanton coral]

But yeah you wouldn't really be appreciate "omg this fusion is strong!" Anymore because you'd get the toxic shaming for using it and so on

[mystic rivet]

this game is 90% aesthetics for me

[tardy flame]

same, looks beat everything else

[hollow quest]

50/50 for me

if it performs badly but looks great, i probably won't use it. but, if it looks bad but performs well, i probably won't use it either

[white meadow]

Talking about Probably bad but look good
You guys wanna look at my fusions when the new version is there?
(I can send it cuz it has new mons)

[hollow quest]

registeel/yanmega chillin in the top right like the little beast it'll be

[hollow creek]

LEZ GOOOO collageposting

[white meadow]

Omg another one with a Family pic XD

[hollow creek]

oh crap that looks awful

[sterile spoke]

Nice work on the Togekiss / Hawlucha!

[white meadow]

A friend of mine gave me the idea with sending me this

[hollow quest]

what was the other calc that people use for fusions

[white meadow]

All my sprites in the pic are 96x96 sized but on a big space

[white meadow]

Fusion calc and daena exist

[hollow quest]

ah i can see that daena is a WIP still

[hollow creek]

A made a 300% size one to see if it looks better

[steel bramble]

Which mon are the raffle mon? I'm gonna check pinned

[white meadow]

Maybe give them less space
Discord probably shrinks it atm

[hollow creek]

we live in a society... (its probably cause the space is large so i can edit in all the new ones

[steel bramble]

Is it the bonus picks?
"Bonus Picks: Sableye, Cacnea, Cacturne, Venipede, Whirlipede, Scolipede, Trubbish, Garbodor, Amaura, Aurorus, Hawlucha, Oricorio, Rockruff, Lycanroc, Mareanie, Toxapex, Stufful, Bewear, Sandygast, Palossand, Dhelmise"

[silent acorn]

Hello Rick did your pc die for a bit?

[hollow creek]

HERE we go

[white meadow]

Stuffle
Hawlucha
Amaura
Cacnea
Dhelmise
Mareanie
Sandygast
All those lines are
(Thought he means the blitz mons)

[silent acorn]

No raffle is the people who won contests and discoblobbo

[white meadow]

Perfect

[hollow quest]

hehehehehe big nose steelix

[steel bramble]

Thanks

[silent acorn]

Its yet to be revealed what the raffle results in

[white meadow]

Oh wait I thought you mean the blitz mons sorry

[silent acorn]

Looks like a red squidward

[steel bramble]

Ohhh

[white meadow]

I really like them

[whole nimbus]

Wait why are these in a raffle? Weren't they already shown to be included? What did I miss?

[white meadow]

I misread I thought he means the blitz

[hollow quest]

those are not the raffle mons, we'll see that around the same time as the update. nobody except the higher ups/raffle winners know the possibilities on that

[hollow creek]

Thankies

[whole nimbus]

So we don't know who's part of the raffle?

[white meadow]

Sadly no

[hollow quest]

90% sure it'll be some useless/stupid mon though

[tranquil path]

The winner gave hints but they could always not tell the truth for the bamboozle

[silk narwhal]

Wait, when?

[hollow quest]

it's many possible mons for the different winners, only one will end up makin it though

[white meadow]

I dont think they all voted Marshadow

[whole nimbus]

Aww he would be awesome

[grand hull]

More like bruxish

[hollow quest]

meloetta or lurantis would've been my pick

[grand hull]

Atleast marshadow has a zen “form”

[whole nimbus]

Ew I hope not

[silk narwhal]

Please meloetta if mythicals are allowed
Otherwise, golisopod or lurantis PLEASE

[grand hull]

Mine would be diancie or minior

[white meadow]

Marshadow is my least favorite Vote mon and its one of my least favorites of all time

[silk narwhal]

Zenith

[grand hull]

Same difference

[white meadow]

For me its Golisopod, Gogoat or Salazzle

[hollow quest]

minior is fine, the propaganda was too much though, i think it turned some people away

[whole nimbus]

I dunno, I've gotten pretty much everyone I wanted during the community votes outside of if the Kalos starters made it in

[white meadow]

But I would have rolled a Randomizer to decide

[violet current]

lurantis is my pick but i think lilligant deserves more bc petilil been in for so long

[grand hull]

Eh I mean it got 4th place so

[silent acorn]

Was searching for comments with you thinking "Huh weird haven't seen Rick in a while" then suddenly I find one in spritework where you say "my discord is acting up" so I assumed your pc must have died or something.

[hollow creek]

I would've picked turtonator because I like it and I just dont see it being voted in by any future update

[silk narwhal]

Nah i was on mobile
Usual discord mobile brainfart

[silent acorn]

Ah yes I get those often

[whole nimbus]

Greninja is my favorite Pokemon and it sucks because if the whole set didn't make it, they wouldn't put in just one of them. Otherwise, if I had to pick another one, it would probably be vikavolt

[grand hull]

Fair although z-crystals make turtonator 100 x better

[white meadow]

Actually add Torkoal to the randomizer

I think those 4 would make amazing and sick fusions

[hollow quest]

torkoal, more like drought didn't make it that much better honestly

[whole nimbus]

I would love to see what electric effects they could do with vikavolt, it could look so badass

[silk narwhal]

It's so joever. I wanted meloetta so bad dude

[silent acorn]

I would've picked lilligant because I am basic like that. But exdended I would go all in on Cosmog. If not then I basically pick Yveltal

[white meadow]

I never felt Ribombee but mainly cuz I didnt see a good sprite of it yet

[hollow creek]

Turtonator just has such a nice color palette + a unique body shape + neat typing and moveset

[hollow quest]

i don't pick any legendaries really because i know they'll probably be in later, same with the starters

[whole nimbus]

Oh yeah the kalos legendaries too, I love Xerneas

[sterile spoke]

One thing I will say is that they're funky. Really funky.

[silent acorn]

I like to entertain of going full run with cosmog

[hollow quest]

that gives me little hope

[whole nimbus]

That would be near impossible-

[silent acorn]

Anything from your list you see?

[sterile spoke]

You are right to think this way. 🙂

[grand hull]

Funky, like minior

[sterile spoke]

Not a one, to my knowledge. 😢

[hollow creek]

I want a funky pokemon

[whole nimbus]

Could possibly be interesting

[white meadow]

The element monkeys
Watchog
The orangutan from gen 7

[hollow quest]

it's probably luvdisc or bruxish

[hollow creek]

Ill freak if turtonator or alomamola actually get in

[silk narwhal]

If it's bruxish I'll go fucking insane

[sterile spoke]

Funky as in "came 132nd on my unofficial and old Spriter-only poll of 199 lines". 😅

[hollow creek]

WAIT NO THATS GOOD

[sterile spoke]

No, it's not. 😛

[white meadow]

Btw can we see the top 10 or top 20 of your list?
It dont matter

Like the unofficial Blaquaza poll

[silent acorn]

Do you see anything disgustingly annoying?

[sterile spoke]

Oh yes, very. 😦

[silk narwhal]

WHAT

[silent acorn]

Well nuts and crackers blaqman

[grand hull]

I’ll jump (not in joy) if the elemental monkies get in

[hollow creek]

sawk and throh could happen guys

[whole nimbus]

Bruxish would be real bad, although I've seen some bad Pokemon in IF make some sick fusions that redeem them easily

[white meadow]

Weird cuz most Blaquaza disliked I heard of are in

[hollow quest]

actually if you say really funky and it's not like bottom 10 of your list, i'll throw a very wild guess and say sigilyph

[silk narwhal]

Sawk my nuts and throh you in a ditch

[silent acorn]

Since he said yes I am assuming tropius is not in

[tranquil path]

https://tenor.com/view/mexican-dancing-pokemon-ludicolo-gif-8176036

[grand hull]

That would be a really hard body to do

[sterile spoke]

The only addition I'm fully unhappy with is Necrozma. 😛

[hollow quest]

oh we know

[silk narwhal]

[white meadow]

Did you ever finish your Regice/Necrozma

[silent acorn]

Necrozma is OK, not the worst thing we could have gotten

[hollow quest]

it's literally THE fusion legendary, it had to come sooner than later

[silent acorn]

I actually got one of the best ones with infernape, my boy looks like a super saiyan

[sterile spoke]

Of the other ones I remember, they came 14th, 47th, 56th, 58th and 62nd. Then the jump to 132nd. 😛

[silk narwhal]

Jesus Christ

[sterile spoke]

That's Kyurem, though. 😂

[hollow creek]

im guessing 14th place is larauntus or however you spell it

[whole nimbus]

Wish we would've gotten Lunala instead of necrozma though

[sterile spoke]

If the 132nd line gets in, there will be a massive stink, I suspect. 😂

[silent acorn]

I bet the 132nd has to be discoblob he said he would pick something no one would have wanted

[hollow creek]

I feel like accelgor could be in there too

[sterile spoke]

I am neutral, erring towards dislike. 😅

[white meadow]

Funny enough if we know the community we can kinda see what range of Pokemon they are

[hollow quest]

they're both the same idea, i think S/M did it a bit better

[hollow creek]

Stuntank bros...

[sterile spoke]

Skuntank was much higher than you'd think. 😉

[hollow quest]

but of course the splicers are based on gen 5 so...

[hollow creek]

As he should be

[silent acorn]

Drop one clue is it multistage?

[white meadow]

I kinda like Skuntank as a option
It has cool hair and a beautifull purple

[sterile spoke]

Yes, which is even worse. 😦

[silent acorn]

Hmmmm... Might be... Mighyena is disliked by many... Relicanth is kinda meh

[silk narwhal]

Gonna go to bed now
Wake me up when september ends 🎵

[hollow creek]

If skuntank gets in imma make a jirachi skuntank thats farting a space cloud

[hollow quest]

well thankfully that means no bruxish

[sterile spoke]

The Poochyena line was 111th, so it's noticeably less popular. 😛

[white meadow]

But I cant remember what happend in September

[silent acorn]

Hmmmm... It is... Can't be castform as that one isn't disliked or evolves actually

[silk narwhal]

THAT'S LITERALLY THE PROBLEM WITH SKUNTANK
THE FART FUSIONS

[sterile spoke]

I'll give you no more hints. 😛

[silent acorn]

Huh... Well it's no down on the 150s atleast

[white meadow]

Makes me sad

[hollow quest]

can't be luvdisc or alomomola either

[grand hull]

Id like to see luvdisc

[whole nimbus]

OH YES MULTI STAGE MEANS NO BRUXISH

[sterile spoke]

The Patrat line was the bottom of the unofficial vote, by the way. 🙂

[silent acorn]

Oh my god... Don't tell me 132 is burmy oh god no.

[white meadow]

Btw am I the only one who likes MLP fan songs?
September
20% cooler
Discord

[cerulean wing]

Thank god hate patrat 😭

[sterile spoke]

It was the only one nobody, not one of the 200 Spriters that filled out the survey, gave a 3 to. 😛

[whole nimbus]

Yo wait what if it's Kricketune? I'd be cool with that

[white meadow]

I hate the series but the songs are nice

[hollow quest]

so it's total shite

or, alternatively, so mediocre that no one cares about it

[hollow creek]

I feel like the 132nd is bunnelby

[silent acorn]

Watchog is very very bad even as a moemon I hate it

[white meadow]

I can see Patrat being interesting fusion material tho

[hollow creek]

does anyone have a way to view the old poll?

[silent acorn]

Its just very ugly

[silent acorn]

Hasn't been revealed unfortunately, probably because it would be easy to trigger a shitestorm

[hollow creek]

no no i meant an unedited copy of the old form

[silent acorn]

If Blaquaza says 132 is so bad it gets in would be a complete stinker I believe him his taste is pretty based honestly

[sterile spoke]

Also, just remember that it's not guaranteed to get in. 😉

[silent acorn]

Nope.

[sterile spoke]

I like the line somewhat, but it's a waste of a slot. 😦

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-not-always-the-case-kenny-jo-its-not-always-like-that-thats-not-the-point-gif-22477094

[mild sedge]

I Wonder what the poll results looked like tbh

[woven maple]

Can you tell us the generation? (Did gen 4 get completely shafted?)

[sterile spoke]

The main poll would be really interesting to see in full. 😮

[silent acorn]

Hm if you like it a bit but it's a waste I wonder what kind of thing it is... Please don't tell me my babies Drapion or vespiquen are that hated

[sterile spoke]

No, I won't tell you that, it's too specific. 😛

[plucky bobcat]

Still wishing for Kommo-O and Jellicent

[woven maple]

So that means it is gen 4?

[hollow quest]

i'm more curious where salazzle ended up, it had too many fans for it not to be top 10 in my eyes

[white meadow]

Okay a Pokemon from gen 3-7 got in the raffle

[hollow quest]

what console?

[silent acorn]

No

[woven maple]

Damn

[sterile spoke]

Still too specific. No more hints. 😉

[woven maple]

Literally just Froslass from gen 4 then

[white meadow]

The Pokemon is alive

[mild sedge]

Hints ruin surprises, makes it too specific.

[woven maple]

Do we know when it's going to be revealed?

[white meadow]

The Pokemon has colors and a pokemon type

[hollow quest]

well if this is a disappointing reveal i think people just want to be disappointed quicker

[sterile spoke]

That's why I just mostly wanted to give you an abstract number of a vote with a very small sample. 😂

[silent acorn]

I like it but it's a waste of a slot, multistage. And considering blaquaza's taste... Is it... Pachirisu?

[white meadow]

Pachi isnt multistage

[woven maple]

Multistage? And not gen 4

[sterile spoke]

I thought it'd be today, but it wasn't. It'll be whenever the update comes. 🙂

[sterile spoke]

I didn't (and won't) say what generation it was from. 😛

[silent acorn]

Brian farted because of pressure lol

[plucky bobcat]

Excadrill?

[woven maple]

Excadrill would not be unpopular I don't think. Higher than 112th at least.

[sterile spoke]

And again, it's just one candidate. It's not confirmed to be getting in by any means, it's literally down to chance. 😅

[silent acorn]

I dont know how it would be a waste of a slot, Excadrill is awesome.

[sterile spoke]

And isn't even the worst of the options. 😛

[white meadow]

Blaquaza agrees with me that its not a gen 1,2,8 or 9 Pokémon

[hollow quest]

you kinda worded it like it was already decided

[silent acorn]

No more clues huh...
Mr. Riddler lol

[hollow creek]

I think the least voted one is mothim line

[sterile spoke]

No I didn't, I listed the raffle candidates and saidf that was one of them. 😛

[plucky bobcat]

Wait are we voting for Popular or unpopular candidates? I am confused. I think I missed some important info during the chat

[hollow quest]

if it's just one of several options then yeah that's one thing

[sterile spoke]

I already said it was Patrat. 😂

[silent acorn]

Its something only someone who hates all over pokemon would want.

[sterile spoke]

Unless you mean least voted of the raffle ones. 😮

[woven maple]

You don't understand Blaquaza.
We have been waiting for the update all weekend, and it seems like some of us won't even get the chance to play it before going to work on Monday.
We will take literally any scrap of information, even if it's a completely baseless assumption based on a slight detail of your phrasing.

[silent acorn]

Opinion on burmy blaquaza for posterity

[sterile spoke]

Don't put words in my mouth, because then the chaos spirals further. 😛

[grand hull]

It could be makuhita

[hollow creek]

no no i meant whatever one was 132nd

[sterile spoke]

Burmy is a Pokémon. That's my verdict. 🙂

[hollow quest]

is one of the raffle options something people really want

[woven maple]

The chaos is all we have right now

[sterile spoke]

Blaziken is also a Pokémon. So is Enamorus. 😄

[hollow quest]

i just wanna hear that now

[white meadow]

Gogoat is a Mon Blaquaza dont mind but thinks is a waste of a slot

[silent acorn]

Got it thanks for the interview Mr blaquaza 👍

[woven maple]

Whoops wrong reply

[plucky bobcat]

I am so confused right now.

[woven maple]

Claydoll maybe? Doesn't seem like it'd be 112th though.

[hollow creek]

I feel like claydol would be top 50

[radiant briar]

Nah it's gonna be spheal trust me

[woven maple]

That's a little high. 100 yes, but gen 3 nostolgia isn't a thing for everyone

[potent venture]

I actually think the update is tomorrow

[mild sedge]

I’m still grateful we (hopefully) didn’t get fishy Mc lips over here

[white meadow]

Its 1 am

[woven maple]

Don't jinx it

[radiant briar]

TRUE!!!!

[hollow quest]

could be another winner's choice though

[silent acorn]

I know I gave bruxish a 3 so it wouldn't be that low

[hollow creek]

probably

[lethal reef]

Still holding out hope

[white meadow]

Btw I wont sleep until the update is here

[silent acorn]

Wurmple couldn't possibly be that low because nostalgia dictates it would be top 100 atleast
Vivillion on the other hand yeah I could see it.

[radiant briar]

Spheal spheal Spheal spheal Spheal spheal Spheal spheal

[grand hull]

B ready to pull an all nighter

[silent acorn]

Aromatisse and slurpuff aren't super pop, but they have enough following to be lower than 100

[white meadow]

Wurmple would be interesting tho
I like Wurmple as a bug designe (obv not more than Venipede)

[silent acorn]

Nostalgia dictates, if it's old gens, it will always be top 100 minimum

[woven maple]

Oh what about Vanillish?

[white meadow]

Thats why I can see that Blaquaza actually means Gogoat

[silent acorn]

Probably still top 100, has enough of a following and isn't too bad, it's actually a good hail setter

[woven maple]

Ducklett?

[plucky bobcat]

Swoobat?

[white meadow]

I like it but idk the Potential

[silent acorn]

That one... Yeah I could see duck being lower Than a 100 and swoobat maybe? It's harder because bats are popular

[white meadow]

I see the potential haveing Cute bats

[plucky bobcat]

Avalugg?

[silent acorn]

Cryogonal looks nice enough, I think maybe above 100, avalugg kinda sucks ass so maybe below 100

Like avalugg looks nice but it's a very bad ice tank

[hollow quest]

kinda sucks? it just sucks period

[woven maple]

Cryogonal is single stage

[plucky bobcat]

The Binacle Line?

[silent acorn]

...
There was once an ugly barnacle the end

I am pretty sure memes maybe save it from below 100 or maybe not

[hollow quest]

they even made it worse in hisui

[white meadow]

Here have five nights of Cannabis Freddy while we wait

[silent acorn]

What avalugg? Yeah
Thanks Cipher God knows I need the weedy bear

[sterile spoke]

I have created chaos, and shall retire to sleep for the night.

[plucky bobcat]

Shiinotic

[sterile spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-time-gif-2822468507363798988

[silent acorn]

Good night bringer of ragnaroc

[silent acorn]

Shiinotic it creepy so above 100

[hollow quest]

blaquaza will wake up with a tomato on his pillow

why? nobody knows

[white meadow]

I come watching you in your dreams
I will be the guy that doesnt stand out but always looks in your direction

[silent acorn]

Its blaquaza nobody knows shet about him

[plucky bobcat]

Seismitoad?

[weak trellis]

shiinotic would be an astounding addition just for the faces alone

[silent acorn]

Hmmmm now seismistoad is interesting, 3 stages but it's not appealing maybe below 100

[weak trellis]

just pink and : ) on everything.

[plucky bobcat]

Liepard?

[sterile spoke]

I am good friends with Tomate. 🙂

[mild sedge]

Wait RyS what clues do we have

[silent acorn]

I freaking love liepard top 60 easy

[plucky bobcat]

What about Helioisk?

[white meadow]

Here Cat
(Not mine but from the girl I like)

[silent acorn]

Multistage, Blaq considers it a waste of a slot, he somewhat likes it, it's spot 132 on the poll, it would cause a big stinker if it was picked, not the absolute worst

Blaq mentioned it being multistage was even worse

[mild sedge]

Hm…

[silent acorn]

Heliliosk above 100 but not by much

[plucky bobcat]

Wait on the poll, how high was Spheal?

[hollow quest]

think the line was top 10?

[silent acorn]

They haven't revealed what was in which spot of the poll, the poll results aren't out probably to troll us

[grand hull]

I genuinely hate spheal

[idle siren]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-gif-27442765

[silent acorn]

I like spheal easy top 50

[plucky bobcat]

So Below 100, what about Toucannon?

[hollow quest]

from the list i saw earlier, the line was #5 on the spriter poll, unless you mean somethin else

[grand hull]

It’s a ball not much to do with bodies and it’s evos are so similar it would be hard to tell what the head was

[grand hull]

Id enjoy toucannon

[silent acorn]

Probably very close to 100

[plucky bobcat]

How do you think Jellicent or Gastrodon did?

[white meadow]

Spriter poll top 10

[silent acorn]

Kinda interesting but I know it's kinda meh

[sterile spoke]

This isn't the poll I'm referring to, for reference. 😛

[white meadow]

I know

Sleep I wanna watch you in your dreams

[sterile spoke]

My dreams have been very weird recently, so you don't. 😂

[plucky bobcat]

Guys, what about Jellicent or Gastrodon, how well do you think they did in the poll?

[silent acorn]

I ask you answer I appreciate, have a good sleep

[white meadow]

Gastrodon is a mon people love

[plucky bobcat]

And Jellicent?

[white meadow]

I dont care I will watch you

[silent acorn]

Jellicent Is nice top 70

[white meadow]

Idk
I mean people who like joke sprites voted it im sure

[plucky bobcat]

Bottom 100, the Pidove line?

[silent acorn]

.... I have used Pidove and I was sad, so around 120ish

Out of 199 by the way

[plucky bobcat]

out of 199...

[white meadow]

I had a Unfezant in Pixelmon
It was fine

[sterile spoke]

Pidove was 11th lowest. 😛

[plucky bobcat]

Did anyone do Druddigon or Vikavolt?

[glossy osprey]

what was the least voted legendary

[silent acorn]

It took me a second you said 11th worst

Yeah Pidove is just not very good. I did do druddigon I gave it a 3, although it's mostly 110th material I think.

[hollow quest]

yeah pidove was like the most forgettable bird line

[hollow creek]

I gave both 3

[plucky bobcat]

How about Espurr?

[hollow creek]

I gave espurr 0

[white meadow]

I like the Lego dragon

[silent acorn]

Staraptor i would say as a combination of nostalgia, being Gen 4 and just looking badass as usual I would say top 40 maybe

[hollow creek]

I think I gave it 1 on the first poll but then 0 on spriters choice

[plucky bobcat]

Lego Dragon...Are you talking about Eternatus?

[white meadow]

Druddigon

[silent acorn]

No that's druddigon

[hollow quest]

espurr is the goofiest lookin mfer i swear, it looks constantly traumatized

[silent acorn]

It is a really goofy cat

[white meadow]

It probably is

[plucky bobcat]

Wait, what about Clauncher and Dragalge?

[hollow quest]

thankfully it gets over its trauma with its evo mostly

[white meadow]

Forget Clauncher I ate him

[silent acorn]

Clauncher is easy top 40 I believe, Dragalge maybe top 70

[plucky bobcat]

NGL that looks tasty.

So uhhhh...next shot: Garbador

[white meadow]

It was fantastic its my Favorite Pizza now

[silent acorn]

There is... Basculin easy top 180

[hollow creek]

Both got 4

[white meadow]

He is inalready

[silent acorn]

4 what?

[hollow creek]

Garbodor is in because he's awesome

[hollow quest]

seems kinda trashy

[plucky bobcat]

Oh. Alright then. So...wait is Drapion in too?

[silent acorn]

Garbodor ain't bad not gonna lie

[hollow creek]

a 4 out of 4 for me on the poll

[hollow quest]

[silent acorn]

sobs like a cat not it isn't sadly, easy top 90 though as much as I hate to say it.

[white meadow]

My Favorite Garbodor line fusion (made by my friend sadfrog)

[silent acorn]

I mean i don't know others had priorities I had mine.

[plucky bobcat]

Is that supposed to be Garbodor-or-Trubbish/Archen?

[silent acorn]

What would you say Drapion is? Personally I would place it top 50

[hollow creek]

These two are my fav garbodors i made, super good addition to the game imo

[silent acorn]

Nope aerodactyl

[hollow quest]

drapion is fun, i like it. i just don't use it much

[plucky bobcat]

That was my second guess.

[white meadow]

Trubbish/Aerodactyl and Garbodor/Aerodactyl
Its from Sadfrogs Pterosaur lines

[hollow creek]

drapion would be a nice addition

[plucky bobcat]

How low was Crabominable?

[white meadow]

Wasnt Drapion weirdly small

[hollow creek]

Probably not as low as you'd think

[white meadow]

I know in Pixelmon its tiny

[silent acorn]

Oh yeah that one... The betrayer of crabs... Top 160

[plucky bobcat]

Carracosta line?

[hollow creek]

Dude I used to be all about pixelmon

[silent acorn]

As far as I know it's pretty big almost as big as the trainer

[hollow quest]

drapion is 4'3/1.3m

[hollow creek]

Probably did worse than archeops

[silent acorn]

I like carracosta, I know others not as much, probably top 110

[hollow creek]

im surprised archeops wasnt in the blitz now that i think

[white meadow]

Like he is tiny

[silent acorn]

Actually was top 10 on spriters pick. So maybe not that far behind

[outer matrix]

Classic minecraft?

[plucky bobcat]

Wait: The Bronzong line

[white meadow]

Modded so no ig

[silent acorn]

Thats pixelmon compression though

[silent acorn]

Hmmm bronzong I like but others not as much, probably top 120

[white meadow]

True some mons are massiv some are microscopic

[silent acorn]

Chingling is probably top 160.just not interesting.

[plucky bobcat]

Hippowdon?

[silent acorn]

My man I love Hippowdon probably top 80

[plucky bobcat]

Do we have Vespiquen?

[hollow creek]

I would like hippowdon a lot, its sprites before gen 6 are awesome

[silent acorn]

Muppets are probably around 160 too. No we don't have vespiquen, I like it others not probably 130

[plucky bobcat]

The Fomantis line?

[silent acorn]

Turtonator is ugly top 140

[hollow quest]

wonder where salazzle landed, because i was really damn sure it'd make top 10 at least

[silent acorn]

Fomantis is easily on the top 10s or 30s

[plucky bobcat]

Ribombee?

[hollow creek]

Very popular, is most likely on the raffle

[silent acorn]

Mostly about the same 20s or 30s

[plucky bobcat]

Wait are you talking about Fomantis or Ribombee?

[silent acorn]

Blaquaza mentioned one who was 14 out of all lines

[hollow quest]

lurantis was #3, salazzle had to be top 25 from what i imagine

[silent acorn]

They are kinda close, but fomantis is easily higher

[plucky bobcat]

Dedenne?

[silent acorn]

Oh yeah in spriters it was 3.

Dedenne is a pikaclone a decent one though top 140

[plucky bobcat]

Emolga?

[silent acorn]

Emolga falls back on 160 it just basic

[plucky bobcat]

Swanna?

[silent acorn]

Swanna enter but only reached 150

[plucky bobcat]

Scrafty?

[silent acorn]

Scrafty popular one, maybe top 70

[outer matrix]

Minior?

[plucky bobcat]

I swear if Hawlucha isn't top 50 I will be upset.

[silent acorn]

Minior I easily top 10s or 30s is very good

[silent acorn]

To toad it is top 20s apparently

[plucky bobcat]

Ok good. What about Florges?

[silent acorn]

Probably top 70s, interesting but not by much

[white meadow]

• Lycan are all mons we have

[plucky bobcat]

Wait were they added yet or not?

[silent acorn]

They are added already, we are waiting for update to drop

[white meadow]

They will be in the update we get soon

[outer matrix]

All ultra beasts are probably at the 100s

[plucky bobcat]

How about Trevenant?

[silent acorn]

Already in. Top 10s on poll really

[hollow quest]

doubt that

[white meadow]

I showed a pic with all new mons

[silent acorn]

Ultra beast can easily jump around 40s to 70s

[plucky bobcat]

Oh oops.

[hollow quest]

yeah some are very well loved

i think they're all bundles of fun, idk about their application in IF but they are very unique specimens with great creative potential

[silent acorn]

They are quite nicely designed, very otherworldly, and very distinct so it's easy to place them high as safe bets

[hollow quest]

also people would drool over more mons with beast boost

[outer matrix]

I guessed that number because of how most people said that they would most likely be post game exclusive

[silent acorn]

Beast boost is just ridiculous even more than moxie

[plucky bobcat]

Do you think we could get the Unova, Kalos or Alola starters one day, or is that too much to ask for?

[hollow quest]

starters will come later

[silent acorn]

It might be, but it's easy to go with them

[hollow quest]

developer basically stated they would be in, just not right now

[plucky bobcat]

Alright cool!

[hollow quest]

soul-heart

[silent acorn]

Top 10s if they were, but since they aren't they don't count.

[plucky bobcat]

How were Durant and Heatmor in the poll?

[outer matrix]

Beast boost + Raquaza?

[hollow quest]

soul-heart is unbelievably busted in doubles

[silent acorn]

Mythicals I bet are 100s with clones around 130 and keldeo sitting at 110

Except meloetta, victini, Diancie, zeraora, marshadow and cresselia

[hollow quest]

also magearna has a great special movepool/tm list, it can use its ability super well

[silent acorn]

Swords are ruined by just not being their thing and being linked to keldeo so they fall around 110s probably

[hollow quest]

it would be busted to put it on more mons

[silent acorn]

You know what's lame about sky dudes is thay just like swords they also have a 4th member

[plucky bobcat]

So wait, how were Heatmor and Durant in the poll? Were they about about 100? Maybe a bit higher?

[hollow quest]

never cared much for the legendary beasts or swords or genies

[outer matrix]

Meloetta at top 10s?

[silent acorn]

Probably heatmor 130s and Durant 120s?

[plucky bobcat]

Okay, I can see that.

[silent acorn]

Like I think they are OK, but not very good