pif-hoenn-discussion

[sterile verge]

vote minior in the spriter poll or you'll make this big guy sad

[dull root]

Good

[sterile verge]

[stone cliff]

I should sprite my Minior/Tyranitar idea just in case

[feral bear]

Imagine we dont get the announcement this weekend 💀

[shut escarp]

Maybe a dumb question but I am reinstalling and updating after not playing for like 6 months and I saw that tyrunt and tranytrum were approved for the pokedex but I don't see them in the game file. Have they not been added yet?

[prime dust]

nope

the mons that have been announced are all upcoming and won't be added in until the next update [which we do not have a set date for as of yet]

[shut escarp]

ah bummer still that will be a fun run when it does come out. Thanks for letting me know

[stone cliff]

Update should be coming before the end of the year, but stuff happens

[prime dust]

Soon™️

[cinder oasis]

It seems like it's going to be next month but who knows

[shy hearth]

me still wanting chatot to get in

[meager smelt]

on god same

[stone cliff]

The most I've seen was frogman saying he was hoping for an October release, but was only confident that it would be done before January

[feral bear]

Regardless, i think we can expect a playtest this month at the very least

[prime dust]

we already have a playtest

not an updated one, but it does exist...[burried in the #announcements ]

#announcements message

[feral bear]

Im aware, i meant a new one

[meager python]

Agreed, dont make big guy sad :(

[cinder oasis]

Nuh uh

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/idgaf-dont-care-gif-12665479

[stone cliff]

Y'all making Minichamp upset

[lofty spindle]

I'm here to bring... Ribomb...

https://tenor.com/view/ribombee-pokemon-gif-25622771

[clever atlas]

Get accelerocked noob

[lofty spindle]

Not gonna sugarcoat it:
Pollenpuff into heal.

[clever atlas]

Accelerock again and you dead

[prisma willow]

Still hoping for Liligant

[clever atlas]

Yeah lilligant would be decent too

[stone cliff]

Alternatively

[clever atlas]

Ludicolo would be 100 times better if Lombre didn't exist
One of the ugliest Pokémon imo

[sterile spoke]

Lombre is great, don't be mean. 😛

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-lombre-dancing-spinning-gif-9431404363276505606

[clever atlas]

Ew

[coarse karma]

Battling Mirror B made me love both Lombre and Ludicolo, the way they groove to his theme.

I just love Colosseum and Gale of Darkness' ost

[white meadow]

Thats what she said🥲

[vapid citrus]

mudkip is just thinking:wth is he doing

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/regidrago-regieleki-regirock-registeel-regice-gif-25856039

[white meadow]

Smol

[brisk vessel]

Isn't regidrago meant to be huge

Bro does NOT look 6'11

[lofty spindle]

II read that the other way around and was like "Yeah that's a valid take".
Now I read it correctly and shall remove you.

[lofty spindle]

Maybe it measures width.

[brisk vessel]

Regice is only 5'11 so I don't think so

[lofty spindle]

I mean for Drago specifically.

[marble meadow]

funny if this mon gets in

[sterile spoke]

I think there's a 0% chance of Bouffalant getting in. 😛

[civic harness]

Hello there

It seems that people are showing fusions taken from Google again

[red plaza]

I See thag deviantartwayermark

[brisk vessel]

But why would they only measure Regidrago by width specifically

It doesn't make sense if all the other Regis are measured by Height

[civic harness]

How many spaces are there in these votes?

[lofty spindle]

It is the broadest of all Regis, thanks to its dragon skull thing.

[brisk vessel]

That still doesn't really explain why they would measure a member of the Regis differently than all the other Regis

[sterile spoke]

4 vote spaces are left, and an undisclosed amount of bonuses that varies depending on what lines get chosen. 🙂

[civic harness]

Oh

Oh no

[simple gulch]

why not make it 4 lines?

[prime dust]

because that's not how the vote results work

[simple gulch]

but we vote for each line, not a singular mon(for some), 4 evo lines/ combo would be fitting

[prime dust]

each mon in that line takes up a dex spot, that is more of what we are voting for

or voted for correction [i just woke up, brain not 100% function]

only form variations don't actually take up multiple dex slots [in-game they do, but for the purpose of these new mons being added they don't]

[simple gulch]

yeah i d wish for 4 line rather than just 4 mon, cus example the 2 evos ( 3 slots) line would carry less unique feature to make new and distinguish ideas,

[prime dust]

the only listed future extras outside the 4 remaining community votes are the spriter poll mon/line and the spriter raffle mon/line

beyond that Blaq is correct

[simple gulch]

morganar is my main

[prime dust]

curse other languages

[zealous flint]

We can literally do this exact thing with tauros

[simple gulch]

0% panda

[prime dust]

i wouldn't say the exact thing, since Tauros is a Bull...Bouffalant is a Buffalo [w an Afro]

[marsh yew]

Bouffalant was meant as a Tauros equivalent, not as an evolution

In hindsight, should had been a different color, as to avoid bad arguments

[robust geyser]

Honestly a lot of pokemon in 5g disappointed me because i thought they were gonna be evo of old pokemon

Like Alomomola

How can it NOT be a lovdisk evo

[silent acorn]

Because alomola is better than luvdisc anyway, stop rage quitting on the poor new pokemon that want nothing to do with the old ones.

It has happened many times before anyway, won't stop happening

[silent acorn]

The argument on bouffalant having to be an evo is so dumb, like it's a Buffalo, Miltank a cow and Tauros a bull, like they aren't even the same things, also Buffalo tend to look the same different to how bulls grow to be most muscular and bulky than cows.

[robust geyser]

I'm not raging on the pokemon
But it's the same pokemon

And that's a problem i have with a lot of 5G mon that are just there to replace old mon because they wanted a 100% new pokemon game

[robust geyser]

Yeah but we're talking about pokemon, not real life animal. It's not about reality it's about design. If you create a new pokemon, and it's the exact same concept as an old one, than why ?

[robust geyser]

Like the elemental monkeys kind of replace the eeveelution, but that's cool they do it in a new way

[silent acorn]

Why not? There is no rule or reason they can't to that they were doing that on smaller scales before. Also there is the fact that in pokemon whilst it's true that some become a bit of a different type of something they tend to follow real life logic. The Buffalo didn't descend from the bull nor did the bull descend from the Buffalo, boufallant makes sense because it is a species native to another place, doing the opposite and saying bulls become buffalo would be far worse

[silent acorn]

You still evolve them with stones which is basically the same and in a way the monkeys are worse because they are redundant 2 stages of the same thing. Eevee on the other hand is 8 more things that are different from one another. The monkeys were there to teach kids about type matchups because this was a soft reboot to attract new people.

[marsh yew]

I mean, cows and bulls are kinda the same species

[silent acorn]

Yeah but that's different in the cows and bull is more sexual dimorphism at play there

[fossil trail]

I mean isnt miltank supposed to be the female counterpart of tauros

[silent acorn]

Like you only figure out the difference between female dogs and male dogs when they are born because of their little udders

[silent acorn]

Well yeah, I mean tauros is a bull. You cant milk a bull

Teaching kids about how Miltank milk is originated is like subtlety explaining sexual dimorphism

Actually one of the lines that do the worse is back in gen 4, with mothim and crap

[robust geyser]

Why not? There is no rule or reason they can't to that they were doing that on smaller scales before.
Well, there is one, it's boring like most of the Pika-clone tend to be.
Also there is the fact that in pokemon whilst it's true that some become a bit of a different type of something they tend to follow real life logic. The Buffalo didn't descend from the bull nor did the bull descend from the Buffalo, boufallant makes sense because it is a species native to another place, doing the opposite and saying bulls become buffalo would be far worse
**There is a boar evolving into a mammoth my man. **But still it makes sense because of the cold theme and groin/trunk theme. It would make perfect sense for a bull to evolve into a more stronger buffalo. That is pokemon logic.

[fossil trail]

If only this were like digimon...

Just strap some guns on them and call it a day

[silent acorn]

Its still a pig on the last one dude, read the description
Like yeah it evolves becomes a bit different still a pig

[robust geyser]

Anyway, everyone in this debate know that i'm right about absolutely everything and that i'm the best man ever

[silent acorn]

Nah you are the most disagreeable ever
Anyway pika clones is the repeated crime on repeating concept on pokemon and yet everyone wants pachirisu

[violet current]

you can tell a lot of them exist to be replacements for gen 1 mons in unova

honestly? i prefer audino by a mile. same with alomomola

[silent acorn]

Its kinda why mimikyu is fun cuz it's making fun of that shet

[violet current]

the best pika clones are the unique ones

emolga is a good example of a variation on the electric rat, so is pawmot

[silent acorn]

Well yep. Pachirisu is kinda just a squirrel same with emolga, atleast dedenne and togedemaru picked other rodents
I don't even know what morpeko is

[robust geyser]

BRUH, you're just being bad faith, it's design is one of the mammoth, and even its name reference it. But even then, it's one of many example, a fish evolves into a squid, seagull evolving into pelicans, do you really need more example ?

A bull evolving into a buffalo would have made perfect sense

[silent acorn]

Ugh you really wanna have that be like a Bible or something? It's not gonna always be the same the designers aren't gonna make nukes out of a flower on the last stage every single gen

Like gen 5 is fine because it doesn't pray to Gen 1 or any other Gen. Geesus

[robust geyser]

Because sometimes it's good because pachirasu was different enough, the geodude clone of 5G was cool too because he was different enough

[violet current]

gigalith is infinitely cooler than golem

[silent acorn]

Well there you go that's all that's needed. Gigalith is a million times better

[violet current]

power miners ass pokemon

[silent acorn]

Like I kinda like sandlash for fusing but I much rather have Excadrill

[robust geyser]

But i was never saying "5G SUCKS AND SHOULDNT HAVE EXISTED"

[silent acorn]

5g is great. I hate people bringing up the fact it sucks because it had to fix others gens problems

[violet current]

it was my first pokemon game

[robust geyser]

Still, there are things in it i didn't like, and i have objective argument to back it up

[robust geyser]

It was my first new gen to me too, yet i can criticize it

[violet current]

what would you consider objective faults of gen 5

[robust geyser]

The will of a soft-reboot which created a lot of unnecessary clones

[violet current]

i dont think that's an objective fault

if anything that's a lot of people's favorite part

[silent acorn]

Sure it brought its own with basculin but like that's gamefreak fault at the end. They could have just made I dont know another sigilyph esque mon

[robust geyser]

Well it's objective that it was a lot of reboot and that there were pokemon created to fill a spot that was already occupied by pre-existing pokemon

sometimes there were good, sometimes not

[silent acorn]

Yeah but they made so many good one stagers I don't know why they had to go with that one

[violet current]

we got basculegion out of it so im not mad

[silent acorn]

Basculin is just sad because in a region with so many good stuff there is this dumb ass fish that can't do anything. Base basculin doesn't evolve

Its still there, still as lame as luvdisc

[violet current]

which is ironic because the actual luvdisc counterpart is great

[silent acorn]

Like they could have just made it a bit more inspired like come on its a bass could have made something more with that

What was it again?

[violet current]

alomomola

[silent acorn]

Oh yeah, that's what I mean like they came up with that nice creature and all they come up with for the last one is a really basic fish.

Did I expect luvdisc to use the power of love and be beautiful why yes they brought it to the table

That's like bringing chips and saying you brought salsa and only bringing some butter

[weak trellis]

does get adaptability tho

[violet current]

honestly i dont think anyone used a water type other than either samurott or seismitoad in gen 5 anyway

[silent acorn]

We talking about the design not about if it's usable or not.

[weak trellis]

the teams in gen 5 all feel pretty samey yea

[violet current]

oh im talking abt usability

[silent acorn]

I can tell you 100% when I played that I either used Samurott, Seismitioad, Carracosta. And you even have access to jellicent, Simipour and Alomomola so freaking basculin has no excuse

[weak trellis]

starter and either seismitoad/jellicent, chandelure/darmanian, or leavanny/lilligant, maybe fossil and probably stoutland

[white meadow]

Wasnt the jellyfish good?

[silent acorn]

Jellyfish is very good

[weak trellis]

still less stagnant than xy teams tho

[violet current]

sigilyph seismitoad starter excadrill krookodile chandelure the staple bw team

[silent acorn]

I mean gen 6 sounds depressing because you got repeats, just adding fairies to old ones and then semi interesting mons

[weak trellis]

which were almost always starter/talonflame/aegislash/eeveelution/lucario and a pick 1 of fossil, lapras, gengar/ampharos/areodactyl, florges, pikachu, snorlax, or a rare wildcard of a new gen 6 mon

[violet current]

i mean, they give u lapras and megaluc for free

[weak trellis]

the biggest dex and yet the in-game teams were all super similar lol

[silent acorn]

I used unfezant male, not as bad as people say, Samurott, Excadrill, Simisear (god no), Sawsbuck, Haxorus, and then switch Simisear with Reshiram

[weak trellis]

tbh, unfezant's fine for in-game use

[silent acorn]

It is fine, not as fun as Staraptor tho

[weak trellis]

it's just that fly isn't good in comp like it is in maingame so its shafted

[white meadow]

In my run I had a starter and Krookodile
The rest of the team was
Swoobat
Elektross
Ferrothorn
Druddigon

I only didnt use my boi Scoli cuz he was in my XY team and I played through xy before I replayed White 2

[silent acorn]

Boy you waited a long time to get druddigon didn't you

[weak trellis]

I think mine was uuuh emboar, audino, simisage, cinccino, galvantula, and I forget the final member

[white meadow]

Yes I ran with 5 pokemon through the whole Region until victory road

[silent acorn]

Was audino fun?

[weak trellis]

I forget but it was hilarious when I got it in my last xy nuz

[violet current]

my team for my white playthrough was samurott lilligant krookodile sigilyph chandelure cofagrigus

[silent acorn]

I just saw axew and wanted a piece of that, I actually wanted hydra but couldnt get it until like waaaaayyyyyy later

[white meadow]

I only did cuz I really wanted to use one once
And guess who safed my Ass in the league

[weak trellis]

power-up punch and defenses are a potent mix

[silent acorn]

That's based that's an epic team

Man I only know Excadrill is so fun, you get to have a one on one duel with the ground gym

[violet current]

my (current) team for my white 2 shinylocke is emboar chandelure lilligant pelipper magneton and mienshao

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/slurpuff-good-morning-wake-up-pokemon-gif-27675576

[violet current]

im hunting metang rn, its my last hunt for the run

[silent acorn]

Good morning nasho

[white meadow]

Talking about XY I think it was my Favorite team I had
Greninja
Scolipede
Flygon
Chandelure
Gardevoir
Gogoat

[silent acorn]

I been wanting to do a run of the hacked black for nostalgia

[silent acorn]

Of course gogoat is the last one lol

[violet current]

im still not over losing my lucario tho, thats my fault for not doing research. (this is my first playthrough of the bw sequels)

[silent acorn]

I honestly didnt want to get those, I enjoyed my time with black

[white meadow]

What else would you expect
It was the main reason I didnt pick the Armadillo starter

[silent acorn]

To be honest... Chesnaught has to be one of my least favorite starters ever. I just... Dont like it. Like I don't love greninja but that does its bit better

[violet current]

delphox is my fav gen 6 starter

[silent acorn]

I like the aesthethic of delphox, going magician and stuff

[violet current]

i wish she had a hat tho. big floppy witch hats are the best

[white meadow]

I think its fine
My problem is his armor looks too big

[silent acorn]

The fluffy ears do ruin the balance, I would have liked the hat

[white meadow]

I saw a redesigng some days ago and I was in love

[silent acorn]

Yeah I think the armors is a bit too big

[silent acorn]

Do you have it?

[violet current]

im like. #1 big hat fan

if there is an option to be wearing a big floppy hat i will take it. i dont care if it puts me at a disadvantage

[silent acorn]

ignoring the sexualixed bits I like this one.

[silent acorn]

Like lighter more delicate looking like a plant. Like Serperior did that being just regal looking

[silent acorn]

Man this is amazing. So good... So sad this isn't the actual one

[violet current]

THIS IS SO COOL

[white meadow]

It still has ear fluff
I think the orange is it

And Braixens stick became a staff

[violet current]

this is like. exactly what i hoped delphox would be when i first played gen 6

[silent acorn]

Yeah but its more balance and less overwhelming and feels more in line with braixen as a line

[violet current]

we need a real wizard!! stop teasing me with delphox and meowscarada

[silent acorn]

Meowscarada does have the magician and feels more like this one

[white meadow]

It also makes the dress look less weird

[violet current]

meowscarada is more stage magic than fantasy magic

[silent acorn]

Like only greninja got to look slender back in 6 and that sucks

[silent acorn]

I am pissed because they tried to do the same nonsense in Gen 7 for intelleon and the others. Thankfully it hasn't stuck

[white meadow]

Intelleon is gen 8

I forgot what minior’s ability was, but do you think it’ll still work in IF?

[white meadow]

Probably but without form change

[silent acorn]

Oh sorry miscalculation on my part. But yeah they tried to do the same nonsense on Gen 8 and everyone looking like seels clapping their fins. Thank God gen 9 nails aesthethics better

[white meadow]

something something shields down and it’s sent into battle with the brown shielding, but then takes a hit and then the coating goes away and it’s the colorful center, but there’s maybe stat changes? I’m talking about what minior’s ability does

The only gen 8 starter I kinda like is Intelleon

[silent acorn]

Basically raises attack

[obtuse silo]

Similar to aegislash but also gets speed

[silent acorn]

Whilst lowering armor and making it immune to status

[sterile verge]

When sheild form is up it has 60 atk/special atk, and 100 def/special def and 60 speed.

When it becomes core form it's atk/special atk and def/special def Stats swap, and it's speed becomes 120

[silent acorn]

Basically does both jobs kinda like what zen Mode what's supposed be

[white meadow]

That might make for some interesting fusions

[silent acorn]

for the love of God don't keep zen Mode the same

It sucks on battle, it's better to allow change outside of it. Gives us more Sprites anyway

[white meadow]

Idk I’m thinking like for example the minior/espeon in the bottom. Maybe there’s two sprites for it, and it’s the shielded form, but then there’s an alt sprite and it’s the unshielded form

[obtuse silo]

Propably interesting ..but realistically worse than just a sweeper than gengar or alakazam

[white meadow]

considering that Aegislash has fusions that are kinda blade form and shield form

[obtuse silo]

You are better of taking a fast hard hitter than a mon that needs to get hit first

[silent acorn]

I want people to make hell planet infernape and then I'll agree it's worth it

[silent acorn]

Its all about strats

[white meadow]

me personally, I just use attacking moves, making my Pokémon immune to taunting

[obtuse silo]

There is no point in starting with a low offensive stat

[silent acorn]

Yes there is.

[obtuse silo]

No

[silent acorn]

Well in fusions it could get messed up thinking about it.

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-gif-21984965

[obtuse silo]

Whats the point in waiting to get hit first before your mon can hit hard

[sterile verge]

Then fuse with skarmory for body press into rock slide or something when shield go down

[obtuse silo]

The idea is cool but its like zen mode

[silent acorn]

Nah zen Mode sucks so much more lol

[obtuse silo]

Or you just use a sweeper

[silent acorn]

No I don't want to granpa

[obtuse silo]

Und hit hard and be fast from the get go

[sterile verge]

For real, zen mode flopped around so Shields down could fly

[silent acorn]

Basically yeah.

Well what is the realistic scenario it works well... Unless your mon has monstrously high defense of which there is good choices

[frank oxide]

wrong chat

[silent acorn]

You went through 3 reference at once
You earned the achievement

GTFO WE TALKING SERIOUS BIZ HERE

[silent acorn]

Nah but seriously why

[frank oxide]

nice

[silent acorn]

That image is so weirdly high res

[frank oxide]

dw just wrong chat,but too late now

dw

anyways slurpuff

[sterile verge]

Slurpuff is like oricorio
I would hate it until people make the most out of pocket insane fusions

But as a body.... I don't see it working out

[oblique sigil]

what Pokemon are y'all wanting the most, spriters?

[sterile verge]

Dracovish Minior

[frank oxide]

slurpuff

[frank oxide]

dhelmise and trevenant:

[oblique sigil]

slurpuff is pretty cool

[sterile verge]

Those are freebies, they make any fusion hit hard as head

[frank oxide]

i could think of some good ones

like magcargo where the rock is the body and the magma the ice cream (?)

[oblique sigil]

also what's y'all's voting power? (how many blitz Pokemon you made sprites for)

[frank oxide]

4x

[sterile verge]

Maximum

[oblique sigil]

you made sprites for all 12? nice

[frank oxide]

i think 4x,idk i made 2 blitz so idk

i rzlly dont know how it works lamo

[sterile verge]

My right hand is broken in 17 different places and I will never financially recover

[formal vector]

I have not been in the discord in forever, what are all the new pokemon added

[frank oxide]

chekc pinned

[sterile verge]

These

[formal vector]

Ofd

[frank oxide]

no legends yet,scared for yveltal

[oblique sigil]

xd

[formal vector]

Not a single legendary, very odd. I would have expected like solgaleo, did mot expect skmething like carvanaha

Considering carvanha made it in i think some people might have made votes specifically to ruin the vote

[sterile verge]

There's 4 unrevealed 1's, 1 is guaranteed necrzma

[formal vector]

Cause that do not make a lot of sense tbh

[frank oxide]

no,it can be 2,3 or 4's

[formal vector]

I pray to god they add diancie

[sterile verge]

Ppl theorizing the last 3 besides necrozma are all legendary

[frank oxide]

no,i think it can be golisopod and necrozma but for last one idk

[oblique sigil]

I voted the elemental monkeys very low, but for a good reason: they weren't together, and only one line would win. it would be out of place for one to be added but not the other two tbh

[frank oxide]

but they did say they would add more bonuses

[formal vector]

Why woild anyone vote elemental monkeys bruh

[oblique sigil]

they look kinda cool tbh

[formal vector]

Diancie could make a lot of cool fusions, monkeys could do nothing

[frank oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[sterile verge]

Only simmisage looks even remotely OK in my opinion

[formal vector]

Ghis vote had to have been ambushed by people tryna troll bruh

[oblique sigil]

diance is just a bigger carbink

[coarse venture]

I am just waiting for spheal and evos.

[formal vector]

But its pink, and a princess. So it looks cool

[sterile verge]

Is like carbink, but better in all the ways

[formal vector]

Ah whatever, I barely play the game anyways, i just have a hunch a lot of people were trolling, cause like how in gods name did carvannah make it in

[sterile verge]

Mega form, better design, better body fusion potential, pink

[formal vector]

Yea

[oblique sigil]

yeah I know, but that doesn't really mean anything in the game. anyways my point isn't that I don't want diance, just that I don't care which one gets in if either of them get in at all

anyways gtg

[formal vector]

Honestly i just wsnt stuff that would look cool, if i cant get disncie stleast i will hopefully get scollipede

[prime dust]

Diance is the only other option for Steven Universe fusions outside Sableye [yes i know there is one alt that exists for Garnet, but we need more]

[formal vector]

Carvanah and monkeys and stuff just are so weird, if they difnt add them trolls would have nothing to use

Well i mean like trolls would have nothing to vote for

[obtuse silo]

Wait carvannah and sharpedo are really cool

[formal vector]

Wait im dumb

Im thinking of basculin, not carvannah. Thats my bad bruh 💀

[obtuse silo]

Oh i see

[frank oxide]

#1152721122907926539

[formal vector]

I forgot thst carvanah was sharpedo pre evolution, mb yea ths lretty cool

[frank oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/basculin-fish-flop-pokemon-anime-gif-5391386002298953918

i dont like basuclin

[formal vector]

Fr

[frank oxide]

but this gooberoo ? hell yeah

[formal vector]

Basculegion us dope, but basculin is so dumb

[silent acorn]

You don't get basculegion only basculin. Because this Is unovan basculin the sucky one. We don't get stuff past the gen 7 game

[formal vector]

Exactly why it sucks

[silent acorn]

Scolipede is in game by the way check the pins to see what's getting in.

[formal vector]

W

[frank oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-legends-arceus-pokemon-the-pokemon-company-nintendo-an-antique-gif-25074890

[sterile verge]

Vote Minior 3 in the new Spriter Poll!

[silent acorn]

I want someone to make planetoids. People better get creative

Hang on hold the wonderful thought

[hushed mantle]

Minior reminds me of those super mario galaxy star bits

[silent acorn]

If we have this stars and shields down doesn't that mean that for consistency we would need twice the sprites on the forms?

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/luma-stars-animated-gif-17639836

[silent acorn]

I like those but with its ability it's a bit confusing.

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/luma-hungry-luma-mario-galaxy-feeding-gif-18118822

[silent acorn]

Cuz you could have the shields up form, if it doenst change the form when shields down happens wouldn't that mean it is stuck with the form that looks less offensive?

[hushed mantle]

I mean aegislash doesn’t change form either in the game

[silent acorn]

True. Maybe it won't be a problem. I mean atleast minior looks different in both in a good way

Maybe the head fusion with shields down is the hollow form and the star forms just an alt. Would be neat could make several designs like that

like this for example

[white meadow]

Ooooh now I like it

Now I want Minior a bit

[silent acorn]

That's what I mean the shields up part can work to make ancient, archaic or rocky designs and the star form to make space, star theme and just nuclear looking fusions

[obtuse silo]

Still sad that deoxys doesnt have different forms

[white meadow]

But I see many that already made fusions be frustrated

[white meadow]

It will get them probably

[lofty spindle]

Say... would Aurorus get a stronger fusion with Flygon or Noivern?

[obtuse silo]

Perhaps at some point where alle the mons are added and most sprites are done

[hollow quest]

very fortunate thing this doesn't have subtitle text

[sterile verge]

Godamn that aurorus core form is 💯

[frank oxide]

as a wannabe astropyhisicist,i vote minor 3

[obtuse silo]

I saw the eevee fusions with minior they looked very retro with the minior colors.. i liked that

[white meadow]

Probably Noivern

[grizzled cradle]

imagine minior doesn’t added after all the preemptive sprites

[white meadow]

Frogman confirmed it that old mons get theyr forms too

[obtuse silo]

Ohh nice!

[lofty spindle]

Which ones would that involve?

[obtuse silo]

Rotom could be so much better with forms

[lofty spindle]

...Arceus?

[white meadow]

Probably Deoxys
Rotom
Giratina

(Cant think of more atm)

[white meadow]

Too less diffrence

[azure beacon]

even though basculin is doodoo, it has some things going for it, like adaptability and a decent speed and atk stat for what it is. pair it with something that has good stats and you can make it not suck. and if it gets in (which is probably still not gonna happen), somebody will make a basculegion sprite anyways

[last pecan]

MINIOR BASED

[azure beacon]

do I still wish that we would have just gotten basculegion instead? absolutely. but knowing the limitations of the engine, its not gonna happen

[mystic rivet]

I mean it'd likely just be double basculin right?

[azure beacon]

possibly. or basculin with gengar maybe

[hollow quest]

yeah unfortunately basculegion only came about with gen 8

[mystic rivet]

That could work. Maybe not basculegion exactly, but a stylized version.

[hollow quest]

so we will not be receiving it as an actual mon

[azure beacon]

unfortunately.

if gen8 was included, it would probably be a definitive winner. good typing, good stats, good design and adaptability, which is not something a lot of mons have in infinite fusion

[obtuse silo]

Or the sheep

[mystic rivet]

I don't think we need all 1000+ pokemon but it would be cool to at some point complete all cross-gen evo lines. Even if they're the only ones from that gen. Of course, then you get people complaining "well these gen9 pokemon got in so why not this?!"

[hollow quest]

there are more i'd rather have, like hisuian zoroark, toxtricity, hatterene and others, but it's not bad

[azure beacon]

as a matter of fact, it seems like there are only three pokemon with adaptability, two of them being dogshit

porygon Z, eevee and feebas

[obtuse silo]

Porygonz is nice

[hollow quest]

also to put things in perspective, 420 mons gives ~176k sprites

1000 mons gives 1 million unique sprites

[azure beacon]

not counting in different variants

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/crawdaunt-coming-gif-19275440

[hollow quest]

load times are already pretty slow, imagine it now with that many sprites

[obtuse silo]

At some point ai is so good that it can make all the sprites

[weak trellis]

bascs too

[azure beacon]

who is not in IF, unfortunately. unless I missed something

[thorny ferry]

Carvanha is the prevolution of sharpedo

[sullen elbow]

ah, in IF ok

[hollow quest]

i absolutely do NOT want ai to even come close to that

the whole appeal to me is the unique custom sprites by the spriters, ai only serves to provide the necessary filler mons

[obtuse silo]

If the sprites look aqesome i dont mind if its ai

[sullen elbow]

(they won't)

[obtuse silo]

Yet

[azure beacon]

btw. idk if Im allowed to do that, but the blue stripes on crawdaunts underside look like voluptuous lips. you are welcome for ruining crawdaunt for you

[thorny ferry]

So far, AI makes pixel art with a ton of half-pixels too

[hollow quest]

they are not goin to want to send full ai on this

[thorny ferry]

Nah I don't think so either

[hollow quest]

and yes, even the most advanced of AIs have issues still, it'll take a long time for this ai to even reach that level

[obtuse silo]

Yeah up to them..if there are still a lot of spriters like now i don think so either

I dont think it will take long. Idk how it is with pixel art but regular art they are already pretty damn good

[hollow quest]

pixel art has a lot more issues, because the ai struggles with makin it look right on the pixels

[azure beacon]

atm AI is more useful as a tool, rather than being the creator. And imo thats how it should stay. It should be used as a tool that enhances already existing stuff a bit, and not create something new from scratch

[red plaza]

Ai sucks doodoo

[obtuse silo]

Atm yes

[red plaza]

“Ai, make a fusion of sylveon and hoopa”
Yeah sure here’s your nigh illegible image (we stole 90 percent of it from other artists btw)

[obtuse silo]

Well infinite fusions literally taking stuff from gamefreak

But i was talking more about the appearance

[hollow quest]

yeah the appearance will not be as good as you hope for a long time

[red plaza]

Using sprites from an official company in order to make a fanwork isn’t the same as ai art? Especially considering the fact ai art DOESNT Credit the artists they yoink from for their “training algorithm”

[obtuse silo]

I think ai is on a rapid growth

Dont think its a long time at all

[hollow quest]

still a stupid idea for this project, i wouldn't even bother thinkin about it

unless you want the soul sucked out of the project within a week

[crude vortex]

fuck ai

[sterile verge]

Guys this is getting off topic

[white meadow]

Sure when

[obtuse silo]

In terms of fusion it would take the official sprites and throw them together..not crediting the artist who actually design the pokemon is not something we do either

At least i have never credited the original creatot of the pokemons i used

[obtuse silo]

True

[warm skiff]

oh man ai conversation again, ai sucks. sorry just gotta put my opinion in here.

you're also saying this in a server with an entire section for artists making custom sprites for this. by using ai to do the spritework, you'd be pushing out people in this community who like the artistic side of this fangame, alongside it just being scummy in general to use ai for meaningless designs with no intent while it uses art from artists who don't want their work used in this way (gamefreak owns the official pokemon sprites, while it would be cool to know the artists, using them is different than people posting fanart for fun and having their work used by a software)

sorry, tired, ai bothers me

[hollow quest]

i like how a registered spriter is arguing for ai

[coarse karma]

I feel like this is up your alley. https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=W3id8E34cRQ&pp=ygUTYWkgcGxheXMgcGFqYW1hIHNhbQ%3D%3D

On topic, I'm so excited to see what mons win on the 20th

[tidal ridge]

Wait just asking this out of curiosity, am I allowed to vote on the spriters choice poll now and still be able to finish the rest of the blitz mon later for credit?

[coarse karma]

yes but you have until the 20th.

[sterile verge]

Fellas, we gotta get back to what really matter.

We gotta get back to the good and important topics, like voting for minior in the new Spiter's Choice Poll.

[tidal ridge]

Yeah I know, I just wanna know if I can still get them done later until then

[coarse karma]

https://tenor.com/view/tess-spheal-gif-22641311

[sterile verge]

Until the 20th you can do that, yes

[ebon glacier]

cryogonal ❄️

[obtuse silo]

I neever said they should, just that they could if spriters are low and that wouldnt be bothered if the end result is actualky good

[crude vortex]

anyway zangoose for IF

[sterile verge]

Zangoose mid, seviper based

[obtuse silo]

Its a double so nice either way

[crude vortex]

well good thing you get both then

[coarse karma]

https://tenor.com/view/yopipeye-nami-chat-gif-26053186

My brother was always a Seviper fan while I liked Zangoose, i'd love if they ended up getting in.

[crude vortex]

seviper has a nice palette for fusions

[ebon glacier]

I prefer salazzle

[obtuse silo]

I like both

Zangooose has stab facade+toxic boost

[frank oxide]

my fruend wants yveltal

[obtuse silo]

Yveltal has also a nice palette

[hollow quest]

no legendaries right now, maybe later

[obtuse silo]

I think hoopa unbound is underrated...could look cool

[high haven]

I have no doubt that Seviper will join. They're just too cool to leave out

Same goes for Zangoose, both have their own strengths and back up each other's weaknesses

[white meadow]

Exactly why I gave them 36 points

[obtuse silo]

Same they are nice

[white meadow]

Do you have the 12 booster?
Can I see your blitz fusions

[high haven]

https://tenor.com/view/m-bison-street-fighter-yes-gif-12390538

[obtuse silo]

Honestly dont see a point where you would say no to a double

No gave them 3 points but dont have 36...no time 😅

[white meadow]

You still have 2 days

Its understandable tho

[obtuse silo]

I really have 0 time and when i come from work im too tired

I did like 6 blitz

[high haven]

At least try to get as many more as you can at your own pace no rush

[white meadow]

What do you do ?

[obtuse silo]

I did dhelmise twice, palossand, bear line, toxapex line

But to be honest i didnt really feel like spriting beware and toxapex line..

[high haven]

That's fair

[white meadow]

Same on Bewear thats why its trash

Like, literally

[obtuse silo]

I am a bit ashamed about the quality of those fusions i made

[obtuse silo]

Still better than mine lol

[white meadow]

Your fusions look nice (most of them)

[obtuse silo]

I only like dhelmise and palossand

[white meadow]

All my sprites - alts - one I will remake - the 2 bases I did

[obtuse silo]

Damn thats a lot

[white meadow]

Yeah

[obtuse silo]

How long do you sprite?

[white meadow]

Since december last year

[high haven]

So going on almost a year now

[white meadow]

Yep

[obtuse silo]

Oh still quite a lot

[white meadow]

The pic with all sprites is for one year
I Pixel a Frame after the year and add another layer for year 2

[ebon glacier]

wow, you have a lot of babies

[white meadow]

Or I make a whole new pic than you can see more

[white meadow]

Yes I do and Im happy to have made them all

[obtuse silo]

If there is a really cool mon released i might make one other than that just sprite requests

[white meadow]

But one goal seems impossible that I had when I started it
Makeing a sprite including all 420 pokemon
I just dont have the time

[obtuse silo]

Yeah that is insane

Unless you do recolors

[ebon glacier]

what's your fav pokemon to sprite with?

[white meadow]

Cant tell but I love useing my top 3 fav mons even tho I didnt do many sprites for them yet
Torterra
Noivern
Scolipede

Gogoat is nice too I made some sprites for the propagandas

[obtuse silo]

Love noivern aswell

Never seen torterra as a favourite

[ebon glacier]

I haven't try spriting with any of those 😂, noivern is a interesting one

[still lantern]

where can I find this?

I mean the questions

[sharp nebula]

become a spriter

[arctic sail]

#announcements message

[sterile verge]

Its a Spriter only poll

[still lantern]

oh ok

[ebon glacier]

there's a community poll, but it's closed

[sterile verge]

I would like to request a lycanroc

[silent acorn]

If lycanroc wins will you take my request
Its not sus I swear

Ok maybe a little bit

[ebon glacier]

zekrom/lycanroc when

[arctic sail]

Probably lol. I’m open to Lycanroc or Rockruff requests any time as long as the other Pokémon in the fusion is already in the game

[lofty spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/ribombee-pokemon-fairy-cute-gif-22197024

[sterile verge]

I would like 1 Minior/Lycanroc

[lofty spindle]

Would be funny if the winner of the spriter vote would have made it anyway.

[silent acorn]

Lycanroc/Jynx I want a lady werewolf
Its not gardevoir and it's lycanroc head so....

[lofty spindle]

May as well go with Lopunny.

[silent acorn]

No because that just becomes a furry

[obtuse silo]

I wanted to do lycanroc night form/ursaring but i lost interest

[sterile verge]

Not entirely true

[arctic sail]

#event-general message
Kiwi actually mentioned that already!

[silent acorn]

Not entirely wrong

Also I want lycanroc/Jynx so I can have a nice rock/psychic type on my team

[hollow creek]

I ain’t finishing my sprite rush fellas

[silent acorn]

Sadge

[hollow creek]

What are some mons you voted 3 for

[obtuse silo]

I voted 3 for a lot of mons

[weak trellis]

all I can think of with this is some kind of yeti tbh

like "la creatura you witness on the mountain trail for a second before it ominously flees"

[high haven]

I voted 3 for Zangoose/Seviper, Heatmor, Mienfoo/Mienshao, Cryogonal, Celesteela, Maractus & Spritzee/Aromatisse

[thorny ferry]

Bruxish because of personal taste and sigilyph

[sterile verge]

This is how I feel every time you post a sprite for Lycanroc

[hollow quest]

personal taste?

[last pecan]

lycanroc mid

[thorny ferry]

I like making fusions with it

[last pecan]

minior superior in every way

[obtuse silo]

Oh damn

[high haven]

He said it, not me

[sterile verge]

https://tenor.com/view/odin-is-with-us-magnus-bruun-izuniy-assassins-creed-valhalla-viking-gif-17554992

[last pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-rockruff-fighting-tired-anime-gif-16420684

[last pecan]

me when lycanroc

[obtuse silo]

Question @arctic sail what is it that makes you like lycanroc? And which form do you likw the best

[silent acorn]

Lycanroc cannot die as long as there is a dog in my house

[last pecan]

what frog thought spriter vote would be: "man i hope my mon gets in"
what it is: "MINIOR OR LYCANROC, YOURE WITH US OR AGAINST US"

[sterile verge]

Literally a Civil War

[high haven]

Seviper adds cool design
Zangoose adds unique/extremely rare abilities

[red plaza]

Simipour!!!!!!!!:3

[obtuse silo]

I dont even have a favourite mon i think

[weak trellis]

guts but no burn/paralysis

[last pecan]

MONKEY MOMENTTT

[red plaza]

I LOVE THE ELEMENTAL MOBKEYS

[weak trellis]

xy start moment

[low ether]

Based viewpoint

[weak trellis]

(tbh I do like how the monkies were handled in xy)

[last pecan]

monkey gang gang up

[sterile verge]

https://tenor.com/view/minior-minior-pokemon-pokemon-i-only-stand-for-one-flag-minior-nation-gif-23996712

[obtuse silo]

Where is torkoal gang?

[last pecan]

@vague oar and @vague oar only

[high haven]

https://tenor.com/view/pokmon-kill-me-im-out-gif-18142494

[obtuse silo]

Im will join him

[coarse karma]

@alpine rune

[white meadow]

Than do a Torterra/Noivern fusion

[coarse karma]

least i rm them sending torkoal gif in this channel the other day lol

[obtuse silo]

Oh didnt see..

We must bring the drought

[sterile verge]

Torkoal fans on their way to fight the Golisopod fans

[red plaza]

Slowly crawling from my grave

[coarse karma]

@slim otter i think, as they were saying Torkoal's better than Turtonator. 👍

[white meadow]

Peace

[last pecan]

(im with monkey for the memes, theyre genuinely so shit as both mons in general and for IF)

[obtuse silo]

I honestly good votes

[coarse karma]

I voted pansage/Simisage, for funny broccoli and Josuke Pompadour fusions.

[red plaza]

I’m with monkey seriously

[hollow creek]

Sigilyth based

[white meadow]

Btw I got a idea for a reference alt useing Salazzle

[red plaza]

Simipour is genuinely my favorite Pokémon :3

[sterile verge]

Imagine if the monkeys got in the normal vote?
Literal hell would've broken loose because of the slot loss

[ebon glacier]

:o interesting, I have an idea for it

[white meadow]

Komodo Rhino

[red plaza]

Whoever reacted to that with the eyebrow raised emoji I will get you!

[white meadow]

Ping me when you do it

[obtuse silo]

Wouldnt that be komo-o?

[slim otter]

I don't remember saying that, but it's true
However, I'm not a huge fan of Torkoal; I just don't like Turtonator.
I gave turtonator the minimum score, and Torkoal was one above Turtonator

[hollow creek]

I’m hoping for elekross, torkoal, minior or crawdaunt

[obtuse silo]

Or whatever that lizars is named

[hollow creek]

I gave turtonator 3 even though he has zero chance of winning

[sterile verge]

Kommo-o

[white meadow]

I dont accept Kommo-o its the worst way to give us a Komodo lizard
Also it dont even has real Komodo aspects except the english name

[arctic sail]

Everything. I’ve literally been a Rockruff/Lycanroc fan since it was first leaked in corocoro. I love rocks, I love dogs, I love wolves, I love fluffy manes, I love the celestial day and night theme, I love that it’s a fast and well-designed rock type. It was the first shiny Pokémon that I actively worked for. I made an entire clay statue of Rockruff in middle(?) school art class for a project that I went way too in over my head for and stressed about for the whole year because I’m an idiot perfectionist. My favorite form is Dusk because I love the mane, the color changing eyes, the connections to a real-life phenomenon, and the dusk theming itself, but honestly, Gamefreak could’ve done so much more with Dusk’s design than they did.

[ebon glacier]

oh yes, I'll prob ping you next month or 2 😂

[coarse karma]

I rm the most random comments

[slim otter]

Yes, it's better, but it's not great like some other mons

[coarse karma]

agreed.

[slim otter]

Lycanroc>Torkoal>Turtonator

[ebon glacier]

love your lycanroc fusions! I hope it gets in 🐺

[slim otter]

Only spriters can vote, I'm afraid

[sharp nebula]

thats the funny thing, you dont! (the community vote has ended)

[slim otter]

The non-spriter polls already finished

[hollow creek]

Oh I voted 3 for hippowdon too

[sterile verge]

Minior>Lycanroc>Seviper/Zangoose>Torkoal>Turtinator

[white meadow]

Lets add my Komodo dragon fakemon

[coarse karma]

Non spriter poll ended, if you want to vote in the final poll that ends on the 20th (in 2 days) you need to have the spriter role.

[hollow creek]

And seviper and zangoose

[slim otter]

Sounds nearly impossible

[obtuse silo]

That is some dedication. Love dogs too...always loved houndoom and arcanine. I honestly think dusk and day look decent..i just dont like the eyes shape.. kind off ruins it for me..never liked the night form tho.

[arctic sail]

Well, technically you could also just be applying and have a moderator submit your fusions for you I think

[white meadow]

Ngl I would love if someone makes a fusion only because he likes him😂

[coarse karma]

Just sharing
Also, what pokemon do you hope will win Real? :)

[sterile verge]

Spriter role + at least one mon in the gallery for a mon revealed during the blitz

[coarse karma]

Had no clue, that's smart!

[slim otter]

I'm torn between Lycanroc and Scraggy, since scraggy is my second-favorite mon and Lycanroc would be fun to sprite

[hollow creek]

I voted 3 for scrafty too

[obtuse silo]

But think about it torkoal has 4 legs just like a dog...it has the same type as akanine...it essentially is a dog

[red plaza]

Hopefully they add Jerma !

[sterile verge]

Elden Ring Enjoyers be like:

[hollow creek]

But torkoal is funny smoke turtle

[red plaza]

Torkoal is a ourtle !

[obtuse silo]

Turtle dog

[high haven]

S hi ts getting heated

[arctic sail]

Honestly, I have to agree that Midnight is the weakest of the three, mainly due to how similar it is to Zoroark. It does have a funky mane and a good color scheme though!

[red plaza]

Where ?

[obtuse silo]

Yeah i think midnight has the most potential when you fuse it

[sterile verge]

If midnight was on all 4's it'd be my favorite, current favorite is the dawn one tho

[red plaza]

I love midnight’s mane mostly because it just reminds me of hyenas and I LOVE hyenas

[obtuse silo]

Mightyena?

[high haven]

Either I'm a dumbass or its back to being how it was back in august

[slim otter]

I somehow like midday more than dusk form

[obtuse silo]

I love mightywna too

[slim otter]

It's just a regular wolf mon
We need a regular wolf mon

[obtuse silo]

Midnight just looks like a skinny esgy carton character not my style

[arctic sail]

SAME!!! I LOVE HYENAS!!! My favorite animal is the aardwolf which is actually a small striped hyena that eats termites!!!!! It’s scientific name is Proteles Cristata! And yeah, that’s a large part of why I love Dusk so much lol

[mystic crystal]

As someone who never played USUM, I forget Dusk form exists but I love Lycanroc anyway, they'd be a great addition

[red plaza]

I wasn’t in here during august uh . Sans Garfield ?

[simple gulch]

how long till the vote are off? i havent vote yet

[obtuse silo]

But day and dusk have decent ohysique

[slim otter]

You have until the 20th

[high haven]

That's T minus 2 days from now

[slim otter]

I can use stufful for friend-shaped fusions

[sterile verge]

Stufful ain't got nothing on my main rock Minior

[red plaza]

stufful is malicious friend shape

[arctic sail]

I use Stufful to make all of my favorite childhood plushies into sprites—that’s about as friend-shaped as it gets IMO

[simple gulch]

🌞 🌛

[red plaza]

It’s >:3 shaped

[slim otter]

Yeah, I've done that too

I've done Infernape/Bewear and Stufful/Kyogre like that

[simple gulch]

volorb is friend shaped

[arctic sail]

Voltorb is Orb.

[hushed mantle]

Voltorb is angy

[slim otter]

Joltik is friend-sized

[simple gulch]

thus fren

[slim otter]

Why else do you think kirby is so friendly?

[obtuse silo]

Spheal is friendly

[arctic sail]

Pink.

[simple gulch]

untill he feel hungry

[hushed mantle]

Because kirby is not angy

[sterile verge]

Jigglypuff is literally peak friend shape

[simple gulch]

friends = emergency food

[red plaza]

Pink makes everything either friendly or a sass-filled gremlin (jigglypuff is in the middle)

[slim otter]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-kirby-poyo-gif-27164307

[obtuse silo]

Is it actually confirmed that 8-9 gen will never come,

[sterile verge]

I have a huge plush of it and I love them

[arctic sail]

Kirby isn’t angy, it’s HANGRY

[hushed mantle]

As a smash player, jigglypuff is NOT a friend

[feral bear]

Is jiggly, is puff

[red plaza]

Oh but they’re just so sleepy! Surely you won’t mind if it just.. uses rest? Right?

[white meadow]

My mind is so corrupted that those 2 emoties remind me of Digital Circus

[simple gulch]

sab is friend

[feral bear]

He will eat ur wedding ring smh

[simple gulch]

not FNAF?

[high haven]

https://tenor.com/view/seviper-attack-zangoose-pokemon-tag-team-gif-11563019

[slim otter]

Can we also take a moment to appreciate lotad and its kin

[red plaza]

I LOVE LOMBRE

[sterile verge]

Digital Circus was hype ngl

[white meadow]

Nah weird cuz I love sun and moon too

[slim otter]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-lotad-hang-gif-21504228

[slim otter]

He is like a funny ghibli creature

[simple gulch]

i made a Jax sptite

[white meadow]

Its just crazy, literally
In a good way

[red plaza]

YOU WHAT

[sterile verge]

Rip lotad, overshadowed by the fact any water or grass mon can get the other type via fusion

[slim otter]

Ludicolo looks like marsh reeds
It's a great wetlands pokemon

[white meadow]

Btw I feel like PZ/Arceus could work for a Abstracted charakter

[hollow creek]

Nuzleaf rocks though

[simple gulch]

cus of the nip

[slim otter]

He might be hard to moderate

[hollow creek]

Are we thinking about the same Pokémon

[slim otter]

I don't wanna deal with gardevoir/nuzleaf or nuzleaf/gardevoir

[white meadow]

No everyone gives all mons just nipples if we get him

[high haven]

We already have miltank for that

[hollow creek]

The grass dark dude with leaf wings and white hair?

[red plaza]

😦

[slim otter]

I feel like shiftry is a hard face to work with, anyways

[obtuse silo]

I think its super weird to sexualize a miltank

[sterile verge]

I only really care for seedot ngl

[white meadow]

Exactly why we dont need a second one

[red plaza]

We could hypothetically get a geno reference fusion though

[hollow creek]

Yeah there we go Shiftry, I love Shiftry

[obtuse silo]

Never even thought about this..maybe im just too old for this

[sterile verge]

Gimme a branch Evo where he becomes an acorn tree

[high haven]

Agreed

[slim otter]

Vanillite for dessert fusions

[red plaza]

BASED!

[obtuse silo]

100%

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/seedot-gif-25300951

[red plaza]

vanillite x sylveon sounds so silly (in a positive way)

[obtuse silo]

We still dont have that many ice type mons

[slim otter]

Mime Jr./Vanillite with a cherry for a nose

[simple gulch]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1163803166027042837 jax

[slim otter]

And a cone hat

[hollow creek]

What the freak I literally just now noticed nuzleaf has those two dark spots

[simple gulch]

can it rlly 1 shot?

[slim otter]

The conversation must've been confusing 😅

[sterile verge]

Yea they gave just nuzleaf nips

[simple gulch]

nipsleaf

[red plaza]

Frowns

[sterile verge]

Well I assume
Shiftry might have them under the beard hair

[high haven]

Literally everything can one shot given the right circumstances

[red plaza]

Even YOU could one shot ! I believe in you

[coral solar]

gasp

[coarse karma]

Changed my votes.

[obtuse silo]

You gave torkoal a 3?

[high haven]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[sterile verge]

The fact I have zero idea what you mean by this scares me

[red plaza]

Did you vote for me to be added (I am a secret option hidden beneath 3000 pages)

[obtuse silo]

I meant torgoat

[coarse karma]

edited/resubmitted on the googledocs form.

[red plaza]

Correct!

[sterile verge]

Guys I have an idea
Add blaquaza to IF
Against his will

[sullen elbow]

+6 252+ Atk Seedot Explosion vs. -6 0 HP / 0 Def Arceus: 2029-2388 (532.5 - 626.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[red plaza]

You’ve got my vote

[slim otter]

Dowload him directly into the game
He can no longer sprite
He is sprite

[high haven]

You saying that means any of the stated Pokémon in the last 2 hours have either increased or decreased in value in your charts

[sterile verge]

Thats not what I meant and you know that

[slim otter]

It suggests it

[coarse karma]

I decided there were some i actually didn't care as much for and add some votes to others.

[coarse karma]

What? :( I'm confused

https://tenor.com/view/catsad-gif-10975270751505630184

[obtuse silo]

That rock mon which looks like a mincraft character would be cool

[sterile verge]

Oh no I'm sorry don't cry

[coarse karma]

Was I not actually allowed to do it, it gave me the option?

[slim otter]

When they said they didn't know what that meant, they meant that they didn't know what it meant for the votes

[sullen elbow]

No gen 9

[coarse karma]

ah. Thanks for clarifying

[high haven]

No that's completely fine do what ever you feel is right

[obtuse silo]

Yesh sad

[slim otter]

That is the sceond most confusing sentence I have typed

[coarse karma]

Yes.

[obtuse silo]

Would 100 pyroars win against a solgaleo?

[coral solar]

If I could ask for any one Gen 9 mon to get in via special privilege and ONLY one Gen 9 mon…

It’d have to be

[slim otter]

https://tenor.com/view/chi-yu-fishie-tiny-pokemon-gif-1712513170322551993

[coarse karma]

Tinkaton is great.

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-dance-quotes-pokemon-dance-goldengho-gif-27490580

[coarse karma]

https://tenor.com/view/totodile-fuecoco-jacaré-pokemon-gif-25216924

[high haven]

I think I'm despite & increasingly nervous

[slim otter]

Every time I see that mon, the back of my brain goes, "cheese string man"

[coral solar]

Wacky flailing inflatable arm cheese man

[obtuse silo]

Reevavroom would make interesting sprites

[coarse karma]

Lol I scared my sleeping cat cause i sneeze

[sterile verge]

He feels like he'd be on the front of a Capri Sun

[high haven]

https://tenor.com/view/cheesestrings-dancing-suave-cool-as-ice-sax-gif-14867393

This was the only gif I could find

[slim otter]

Is this not gholdengo

[coarse karma]

Omg

[simple gulch]

there he is

[obtuse silo]

I woukd sue

[simple gulch]

we can never have string cheese man

[slim otter]

We can never have Chi-Yu

[coarse karma]

Not too bad considering i've only made 5 sprites so far in the blitz. and only 4 are in the gallery. so my votes are puny in comparison to others lol.

[simple gulch]

maybe i can make mock up fuse. what closest to string cheese?

[slim otter]

Ekans? Tangela?

[agile sun]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-lycanroc-rock-slide-attack-gif-14910470347510032215

[sullen elbow]

we can never have toxtricity or centiskorch

[simple gulch]

try spiritomb/goldeen

[high haven]

In times like these every point counts

[agile sun]

vote for lycanroc

[slim otter]

But that's goldeen and not seaking
I don't know if I could bring it through a playthrough

[simple gulch]

it doesnt when all point are 0

[simple gulch]

evolite, horn drill

[high haven]

https://tenor.com/view/cookie-monster-mind-blown-cookies-shook-amazed-gif-11675652

[slim otter]

It doesn't if all points are equal, regardless of which value it is

[coarse karma]

Could always copy paste the Spiritomb/Goldeen sprite file in the game folder and rename it the Spiritomb/Seaking #'d file so you can keep the sprite from changing.

[silent acorn]

Grammar doesn't matter when you can be understood right eviolite mr

[simple gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-ltg-have-a-nice-day-good-ending-gif-25395445

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-kys-miraidon-koraidon-pokemon-gif-25844792

[sterile verge]

XD

[sullen elbow]

I love how there is also a miraidon version that's the opposite

[obtuse silo]

Did anyone vote high for vespiqueen?

[sterile verge]

i would but the idea of getting a female comby immediately made me lower it to 1

[sullen elbow]

You mean male? Or do you mean the idea of having to farm for a female

[slim otter]

Male combee added to IF; no females

[obtuse silo]

I think its okay tbh

Unless its like a 1% chance

[coarse karma]

Tomorrow I get money, i've been enjoying cereal, crackers,water, soup and ramen the last 2 weeks. But I can't wait to get actual filling food. Sadly this involves an hour bus ride to a location only 15 minutes away by car.

[coarse karma]

lmao

[sullen elbow]

And male salandit

[slim otter]

Real struggles

[obtuse silo]

What about relicant?

[slim otter]

I would actually like that
Salandit is a cute little lizard guy, and I don't care for salazzle

[obtuse silo]

Relicant gang?

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/togedemaru-pikachu-marowak-alola-eevee-gif-2114594990032671965

[slim otter]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-salandit-love-hearts-gif-13428074

[coarse karma]

Ppl talking about how Pokemon being real would be dangerous, honestly wouldn't mind living in the world from the anime version. Could just ride pokemon around lol.

[red plaza]

Lurantis is silly :3

[red plaza]

All of the population when yveltal awakens:

[still lantern]

anime is a thing, but rl is another.

[slim otter]

Pokemon being real in our world would be dangerous
Us being real in the pokemon world would be great

[coarse karma]

true. rip

[hollow creek]

Would you lose both of your legs if it meant Pokémon existing as long as they were in a papa johns

[sullen elbow]

And humans resist every Pokemon attack aparently

[red plaza]

Yeah politicians would use Pokémon for a war that woudl immediately end the world

[still lantern]

skill issue

[slim otter]

Nah, we've just got tanky hp

[hollow creek]

This is a real hypothetical I’ve had in my mind for a while

[slim otter]

What does Papa Johns have to do with it?

[hollow creek]

They’re only real if they’re in the papa johns

[red plaza]

Yes bevause papa johns has the best pizza and as such I will not mind going in there a lot

[slim otter]

No, that's a very underpowered wish

[hollow creek]

If they leave they stop existing

[red plaza]

Sounds eldritch and moderately existential for the Pokémon

[slim otter]

Also, Papa Johns would stop making pizza to focus on profiting off of the pokemon

[hollow creek]

That’s true

[red plaza]

NOOOOOO

[hollow creek]

There’d be a lot of people you couldn’t even get in

[red plaza]

I CANT be Left with domidnoes

[slim otter]

Sbarro's is great; I wish there was one nearby

What pokemon fused with appletun would make pizza pie?

[high haven]

I looked away from this chat for 3 minutes how did we get to pokemon In papa John's?

[slim otter]

Pansage? Gholdengo?

[red plaza]

Me 🔥

[sullen elbow]

Ground wormadam

[frank oxide]

if pokemon were in the real world,we could just make laws that:you can get some as pets,must not be abused (even tho tht actually happens in pokemon im pretty sure),no slvery (obv) and no weaponizing them

[slim otter]

Three minutes is entirely too long

[coarse karma]

chuckie cheeses would make more sense, they'd replace the animatronic for performing pokemon

[obtuse silo]

Stunfisk for the dough

[red plaza]

Stunfisk and appletun make a comedically large meatloaf that takes up your entire screen and cannot be released or unfused

[slim otter]

Pie fusions

Porygon makes a pi fusion, though

[red plaza]

Insert miscellaneous ASDF movie fusion references

[sterile verge]

If the Papa Johns is in a mall doesn that mall also count as Papa Johns?

[sullen elbow]

Turtonator is pretty much a mine turtle

[slim otter]

But having pokemon would garner so much money, Papa Johns could buy out the mall

We're planning for vanillite
Pokemon now correspond to flavors. What flavors are they?

Vulpix is cinnamon

[coarse karma]

yeah in both the anime and manga, take pokemon indigo league with charmander or diamond/pearl's injured and emotionally damaged chimchar for example. 💔

[sullen elbow]

Pikachu is vanilla

[coarse karma]

it's always the poor poor fire types lol, even a tepig was left to starve.

[slim otter]

Turtwig is matcha

[sullen elbow]

No sinistcha moment

[coarse karma]

Treecko is Lime.

[slim otter]

Grimer is grape
Like, that really medicinal-flavored grape

Graveler is rocky road

[coarse karma]

Wouldn't Jigglypuff/Chansey line be bubblegum flavored? I'd see clefairy as more strawberry.

[slim otter]

Jigglypuff would definitely be bubblegum

[slim otter]

Chansey is French Toast?

[coarse karma]

there's french toast ice cream?! Yum

[slim otter]

I didn't say the flavors had to be ice cream, but I've also heard of some crazy ice cream flavors

I've heard of shark fin ice cream 💀 for your sharpedo, I guess

[sullen elbow]

Vileplume is corpse flavor 😋

[coarse karma]

I once had ice cream flavor called cookie butter. then i found out it was a limited flavor and it vanished from the local stores in my area 3-4 years ago rip.

[slim otter]

Unown is alphabet soup

Goomy is lavender flavored

Actually, maybe sensu oricorio is lavender

[sullen elbow]

Gee, I wonder what favor would cherim be

[coarse karma]

cranberry of course /s

[slim otter]

Victreebel is lemongrass
Herbal and sour

[slim otter]

Bellsprout is still sweet, though

[sullen elbow]

Orgerpon is lime

[silent acorn]

It would favor plants of course

[weak trellis]

crabrawler is pop tart wildberry flavor

[high haven]

Beedrill could be Honey
Trevenant is like a dark forest cake
Seviper is black licorice
& Hypno is lemon with a hint of a strong sleeper agent

[silent acorn]

Lycanroc is brown chocolate with black chocolate chips, the night snack one is cranberry sauce

[slim otter]

I don't think you know what a sleeper agent is?

[silent acorn]

Oh we talking slurpuff or pokemon flavors?

[slim otter]

It's not a sedative

[red plaza]

If vanillite gets added i wouldn’t be surprised if a bad icecream reference alt makes its way in

[high haven]

Wrong guy and I think your right

Just spit balling here

[silent acorn]

He missed his shot what were we doing with pokemon flavors?

[slim otter]

A sleeper agent is a secret agent who doesn't do anything until called upon

Hypno tastes like people

[weak trellis]

i dunno I've never tasted a hypno before

[thorny ferry]

I did, it def tasted like a human

[obtuse silo]

There is a dhough dog that would fit right in

[silent acorn]

Dude that's gross

[obtuse silo]

I dont remember its name lol

[silent acorn]

Fidough?

[obtuse silo]

Oh yeah

[thorny ferry]

Ikr? Imagine never having eaten a hypno before

[silent acorn]

No I mean you eating an Hypno without the coin along with it, that crap taste like metal

[thorny ferry]

The pendulum is the tastiest part of it ngl

[silent acorn]

By the way I have eating muk before, tastes squishy, sticky and a bit like cu-

[frank oxide]

slurpuff would be every taste of ice cream

[thorny ferry]

Gross

[silent acorn]

Damn phone muk tastes like cucumber

[thorny ferry]

Damn goodra looks like a tasty meal

[frank oxide]

for having tasted a reshiram,its like spicy yogurt

[thorny ferry]

How tf did you manage to kill a reshiram AND eat it

[frank oxide]

would aromatisse just be spice

[silent acorn]

Goodra is a Bon repas

[frank oxide]

dont worry

[thorny ferry]

The embodiment of yass food

[slim otter]

This has gotten away from me

[sullen elbow]

You guys are starting to sound like Louie

[frank oxide]

oh boy i sure do wonder what relicanth or stunfisk would taste like

[silent acorn]

Man Giratina is something I would not recommend for the faint of heart. It's like tasting black pepper and then a ghost pepper the eating bland food only to loop back

[thorny ferry]

Man imagine eating a jellicent

[high haven]

I feel like eating a snail

[frank oxide]

what would drflim taste like

[silent acorn]

Oh you can't jellicent is translucent

[frank oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-react-fish-react-him-thanos-gif-26859685

[silent acorn]

Like you put it in your mouth and if you breath poof it's gone

[thorny ferry]

Glass is translucent but you can bet I can eat it

[slim otter]

Do you mean... transient?

[frank oxide]

i eat the opponents light wall

[silent acorn]

No I mean its very light and translucent like a plastic bag

[slim otter]

Like a fruit peel

[silent acorn]

trans·lu·cent
/tranzˈlo͞osənt,tran(t)sˈlo͞osənt/
adjective
(of a substance) allowing light, but not detailed shapes, to pass through; semitransparent.
"the back is made from a translucent material"

Yes like a fruit peel that's too thin

[frank oxide]

it taste like zekrom 😋

i eated kyurem

[slim otter]

Solid glass is translucent
It doesn't necesarily mean thin

[sullen elbow]

are you a Mr. rime?

[frank oxide]

and bacon bird 😋

[high haven]

Infiltrator says: "Fuck your Reflect, Light Screen and Substitute"

[frank oxide]

i eated the opponents haze

[silent acorn]

Will you eat my weezings smog?

[frank oxide]

"i ate them now ehehahhahahha"

-Gento

[sullen elbow]

screen cleaner says: yum (except for sub 😔 )

[silent acorn]

Guess not haha

[frank oxide]

already did

[frank oxide]

coward

https://tenor.com/view/koffing-pokemon-feliz-laughing-gif-7569181

https://tenor.com/view/munchlax-pokemon-food-eat-eating-gif-18413064

literally me ^

[obtuse silo]

Between bronzong sigilyph and claydol how many points did you give them ?

[high haven]

All of them are good picks, I'd be happy if any of them joined

[cinder oasis]

Probably 0-1

[obtuse silo]

Id say Sigilyph, cladyol then bronzog..even though it has heatproof

[obtuse silo]

Not a fan of object mons i assume

[high haven]

Honestly I think it was 7/9 between them all with Bronzong/3, Claydol/2 and Sigilyph/2

[obtuse silo]

Thats fair like them all tbh

[sullen elbow]

2,2,0

[lost blade]

Do we have any info on whether trevenant is staying ghost/grass or being switched to grass/ghost to fit the fusions better?

[obtuse silo]

I think i had 2,2,1

I heard trevenant will be flipped

[buoyant haven]

how do i get the protector item for rhyperior?

[lost blade]

Yeah, just realized I could search in the trevenant event chat and found people saying that, thanks

[obtuse silo]

So if floette line would be added..would eternal flower floette be included?

[white meadow]

doubt

[hushed mantle]

would voting 0 for a mon still make it 0 with the multipliers?

[obtuse silo]

Yes

0 times x equals 0

[prime dust]

i would assume voting 0 with any modifier would make it 0

since...0 x anything is 0

[obtuse silo]

Figured..altough it does have stats and s showdown sprite

[white meadow]

basically all gen >7 do already

[obtuse silo]

Yeah i mean despite it beeing a special form

[white meadow]

also it's such a forgotten form that even gamefreak never made it obtainable

[obtuse silo]

Yeah would be coul if we could still get light of ruins

[high haven]

Outside of the obvious, which mons do you not want in the game?

[obtuse silo]

Mons that dont have much to offer in terms of fusions..if the abiliry is interesting maybe its okay

[prime dust]

the stuff i don't want is a long list

[obtuse silo]

Like audino

[prime dust]

i'd have an easier time putting it into a tierlist [which I may do]

[obtuse silo]

Like bland mons basically

[obtuse silo]

What would you say?

[sharp nebula]

i dont want spheal or the regis personally

[high haven]

I've said this before, but the Mon(s) I don't want are Meditite & Medicham

[obtuse silo]

I thought they where in the game lol

[high haven]

Nope

[obtuse silo]

What do you not like about them?

[sharp nebula]

i dont think they add anything to the game

[obtuse silo]

Because they arent interesting?

[feral bear]

I like medicham, but only because its needed to give sableye recover

[obtuse silo]

What does add to the game mean?

[heavy bison]

Walrein?

[obtuse silo]

Like for fusions aestethics?

[sharp nebula]

dewgong

[sullen elbow]

Dont really care for hedge hedgehog (shaymin)

[weak trellis]

salazzle but that means we miss on salandit

[sharp nebula]

yeah, everything they do is already covered by other mons

[weak trellis]

type:null and silvally as well

[heavy bison]

But isn't walrein better

[weak trellis]

both are just a mess to look at visually which is normally fine but in IF's context...

[obtuse silo]

I can see where you are coming from though regis are quite unuque i feel

[cinder oasis]

Fr

[heavy bison]

Sprite wise at least

[cinder oasis]

Walrein is better in every single way

[coarse karma]

Reminds me it's been a while since I made another non-if Spheal, time to go add on to my pile

[heavy bison]

Exactly, so why not spheal

[weak trellis]

and also +17 more items to hunt for

[white meadow]

hate furfrou simply because of the gts 🔥

[coarse karma]

global trade station?

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/caine-the-amazing-digital-circus-bubble-gif-14167354232996577406
Obviously jokeing

yeh

[weak trellis]

its the new level 9 & under legendary

[sharp nebula]

dewgong is boring, but walrein is hideous, i dont like either but dewgong is already in the game

[weak trellis]

since one form in home is exclusive to irl egypt and can't be deposited over level 50 in any trim but normal since you can only deposit trims from GO

[heavy bison]

https://tenor.com/view/walrein-pokemon-sealeo-rolling-gif-25539626

[sullen elbow]

There is quite a few mons that that I feel are just somewhat better than other mons but are just redundant with that other mon in the game already

[dry nest]

https://tenor.com/view/gastrodon-tritodon-spinning-okayu-nekomata-okayu-gif-24088570

[obtuse silo]

I honestly like my fusion lol

[coarse karma]

[sharp nebula]

like maractus is better than cacturne, but now we have cacturne maractus is unnecessary

[silent acorn]

That's pretty cool

[heavy bison]

Darmanitan?

[silent acorn]

How about gothitelle

[white meadow]

And that my Friend is where you wrong

[sullen elbow]

I like cacturne more lol but yeah like that

[heavy bison]

YES