pif-hoenn-discussion

[dusty arrow]

have you seen mega cacturne in insurgence

[blazing berry]

Cacturne but the Scarecrow King from Donkey Kong Jungle Beat

[mellow estuary]

It's worse than base ursaring and gf suddenly love him

[mellow estuary]

Yh he's super cool

[mellow estuary]

GF don't care abt megas anymore tho fr

Just give regular banette prankster

[white meadow]

megas were peak

[dusty arrow]

bigger version

[glacial vigil]

That doesn't change the fact there are a lot of grass types already though. Look at poor Ice for example

[silent acorn]

Multigenerational evos are peak megas were just gimmicks to not add more pokemon to future games

[naive cobalt]

I used this guy in my nuzlocke run and he immediately died in the first battle

[white meadow]

as gimmick i meant ofc

[dusty arrow]

ah

[white meadow]

if i had to say what was the best change i would say physical/special split

[glacial vigil]

I just wish that the new evos added weren't for regional variants only

[sterile spoke]

Believe it or not, Grass is underrepresented. 😅

[silk narwhal]

WHAT
CACNEA? COME ON MAN

[dusty arrow]

cope harder

[outer matrix]

Cacnea

[finite thistle]

At least they finally gave us real evolutions in Legends and gen 9

[white meadow]

hoennian obstagoon with belly drum and espeed 🔥

[glacial vigil]

I know it is, but it already has a lot of good grass types, not to mention that 12 of those not in are starters

[mellow estuary]

Cacnea is adorable

[outer matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/cacnea-sabonea-サボネア-pokémon-pokemon-gif-26171473

[dusty arrow]

and cacturne is badass

[silent acorn]

Its a little cutesy ball of spikes and love

[grand hull]

Why does cacturne have so many shades 😭

[silent acorn]

deal with it

[craggy lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/cacturne-pokemon-gif-25124751

[mellow estuary]

He's got the burger king crown

[dusty arrow]

it makes spriters their prey like in deserts
they exhaust them and then eat them

[grand hull]

im having trouble making a goodra sprite

[silent acorn]

That's the problem

[naive cobalt]

That’d the problem indeed

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cacturne-pokemon-gif-25124749

This goofy little guy
I love him.

[mellow estuary]

At this point there's gonna be more bonus pics than vote picks

[silent acorn]

I dont know why that's a bad thing. The community got what they wanted. 9 dragons.

[mellow estuary]

Not complaining ofc but goes against what bonus means tbh. Yh it's not a bad thing

[white meadow]

and that's a good thing, free stuff is always nice

[naive cobalt]

I can’t believe the guy who said 20 or so meant we were getting around 40 Pokémon was actually correct

[scenic agate]

Cacturn Ledian is going to be insane

[prisma willow]

Which regional variants would you say are just better than their original versions?

[placid pelican]

cactusss

still no luck

[silent acorn]

Plus the remaining 11 were variety enough.

[scenic agate]

Also SLAYYYY go cacturne love you king!!

[inland jewel]

Bonus picks are what the dev wants to add, community picks is what we want (I guess we want 9 dragons idk)

[dusty arrow]

people use ledian?

[scenic agate]

I use Ledian. I'm people.

[dusty arrow]

obstagoon with guts

[mellow estuary]

I want excadrill so bad he would be perfect fusion material

[silent acorn]

What samurott doing there? I love it but that's a separate thing.

[naive cobalt]

I didn’t even know ledian was in the game

[mystic crystal]

Ledian's a cool pokémon!... held back by terrible stats

[scenic agate]

Wrong! Get cacturned

[violet pawn]

actually you're just a single person☝️ 🤓

[placid pelican]

it was my original top, before knowing starters wouldnt get it

[remote crest]

Palossand fans Keep losing

[inland jewel]

to be fair, Samurott isn't happening because they specifically said No starters this time

[placid pelican]

i knoooow

[mellow estuary]

That doesn't mean 8 don't want cacturne?

[scenic agate]

it's so funny whenever I come into chat people talk about Ledian I think it's funny I don't know why though

[remote crest]

And Lycanroc fans like me too

[silent acorn]

Vikabolt and Orbeetle are the cooler power Rangers

[naive cobalt]

well your the only 1 ledian in the world

[mellow estuary]

Like??? Excadrill would be cool

[mossy parrot]

there wouldve been even more dragons in the community picks but froggo veto'd some of the lower scoring ones

[scenic agate]

Based fuck dragons

[placid pelican]

ok so im out

[silent acorn]

Thank God.

[placid pelican]

[zenith relic]

lower scoring ones?

[white meadow]

amazing

[scenic agate]

Stop the count. Here's how clawitzer can still get in

[silent acorn]

Ah fudge nooooooo!

[zenith relic]

Oh god this is the underdog votes

[remote crest]

4 reveals left right?

[dusty arrow]

fun fact: in gen 9, AMOONGUSS, GARCHOMP, AND HEATRAN, HAVE FALLEN TO UU
GARCHOMP AND HEATRAN

[gilded eagle]

update

[silent acorn]

2 ends the 6th

[remote crest]

Surely Lycanroc is one of them?

[dusty arrow]

i politely ask you to upgrade diggersby

[violet pawn]

i want buzzwole

[hushed mantle]

The power creep is crazy

[dusty arrow]

heracross better

[cinder oasis]

Where is Ludicolo bruh

[dusty arrow]

oh and ribombee stays in ou

[white meadow]

after what happened to ttar idk if that surprises me

[analog sedge]

CACTURNE IS IN IM SO HAPPY

[mellow estuary]

L

[white meadow]

they are really adding man? are they stupid?

[cinder oasis]

Ribombee staying in OU makes sense, Heatran, Garganacl and Rotom wash falling is wild to me

[dusty arrow]

and garchomp

[white meadow]

is there even a lore reason?

[cinder oasis]

Not really garchomp

[dusty arrow]

wdym garchomp has been an ou staple since gen 4 (he was ubers in gen 4)

[gilded eagle]

their in the first good tier

[glacial vigil]

Could you share which ones or rather not?

[naive cobalt]

Because wynaut

[cinder oasis]

Well it's because it's been outclassed and now that pokemon like enamorous and others absolutely destroy it, it's hard to use.

[scenic agate]

Cacnea solo'd and oulasted your faves

[feral bear]

Ok so tomorrow Tsareena for real this time

[dusty arrow]

and garganacl, a (mostly) specially weak ROCK TYPE doesnt shock you?

[winged garnet]

Come on, Golisopod-

[cinder oasis]

Im surprised garganacl fell

[clever atlas]

Would be appreciated

[dusty arrow]

oh wait nvm 90 special defense isnt weak uhhh
..rock type

[white meadow]

people that had cacnea as their fave:

[dusty arrow]

oh shit he gets hammer arm?

[cinder oasis]

It's because he has an op ability and Salt cure is morbidly op

[dusty arrow]

what happens when empoleon gets hit by salt cure

[cinder oasis]

It takes 4x more damage

[dusty arrow]

so empoleon fucking explodes?

[cinder oasis]

Salt cure does extra damage against water and Steel, so both combined will explode

[dusty arrow]

thats pretty funny

[cinder oasis]

It does like 12% per turn for normal pokemon

[dusty arrow]

speaking of empoleon, im glad he finally got competitive over defiant

[sharp nebula]

i think its still a quarter for empoleon, at least its what bulbapedia suggests

[dusty arrow]

BOOOO BORING

[scenic agate]

I love cacnea and caturne. What a fun choice /srs

[feral bear]

MEAN

[scenic agate]

their palette is so fun and I like her little crown and his hat. Ledian is going to be crazy with these

[remote crest]

I love cacnea as a pokemon

[dusty arrow]

im going to throw a pebble at ledian and laugh

[remote crest]

idk how good he will be as a fusion mon but i cant be sad that he is in

[wintry flume]

I forget how many more Pokemon revels are left on the list?

[cinder oasis]

Oh yeah but still, 25% HP per turn is devious

[scenic agate]

[dusty arrow]

4

[wintry flume]

Dang

[scenic agate]

Clawitzer time

[cinder oasis]

4 more blitz reveals, 4 more slots for community votes and another 1 reveal for the spriter pick and 1 more for this blitz sprite pick thing I think

[restive arrow]

CACTURNE LET'S GOOOOO

[sharp nebula]

4 more actual slots, 2 more blitz, then a contest winner pick and spriter poll pick

[wintry flume]

Sooo 10????

[scenic agate]

Me when I learn addition

[cinder oasis]

Like 8

[wintry flume]

Ah ok

[feral bear]

Now pleaae dear god no one do Cacturne line/sableye before i get home from work

[sharp nebula]

but the non community slots could all be 3 stages

[pale sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cacnea-sabonea-サボネア-pokémon-pokemon-gif-26171473

[cinder oasis]

Yes so it could be 7 lines or like 9 lines of pokemon

[white meadow]

Just add litten and Rowlett

[sharp nebula]

they wont be from this event, maybe in the future though

[white meadow]

I really hope so

[cinder oasis]

They might be added, but if they do it'll be a while from now

[gusty shuttle]

If I'll have to choose between starter lines in the future, 5th gen easy, by far

[sharp nebula]

nah gen 7

[tidal ridge]

Hypnotoad said they might be added if there's demand for it

[pale sparrow]

Next another ice type or a fairy please oh dear frog overlord 🙏

[gusty shuttle]

Fairies

[pale osprey]

im going 7 too

[sharp nebula]

i think the next mon will be either normal/psychic or normal/fighting

[sterile verge]

i bet my life savings on Minior getting in IF so if they don't, remember me as a hero

[gusty shuttle]

Next mon will be normal/flying 👀

[glacial vigil]

There is demand for starters

[frank oxide]

istill sad about it being the cactus

[scenic agate]

Vegas adding anything nowadays

[gusty shuttle]

Why bet life savings when you can spend life savings for Minior

[glacial vigil]

Starters will be added at a later point if they are able to

[grand hull]

I’m thinking fairy/rock

[sharp nebula]

no no, couldnt be

[grand hull]

Diancie

[sharp nebula]

no its not possible

[grand hull]

MUWAHAJAHSHD

[sharp nebula]

its just not possible, im sorry

[white meadow]

they are both 👍

[somber crow]

LESGOOO CACNEA AND CACTURNE!

Finally somebody else for the chart

[grand hull]

I would’ve rather had maructus but cacturnes fine

[somber crow]

Both are cool, Cacturne is just cooler imo

[sterile spoke]

Cacnea fans are eating good today. 😄

https://tenor.com/view/cacnea-sabonea-サボネア-pokémon-pokemon-gif-26171473

[frank oxide]

i would've rather had slurpuff

[white meadow]

someone else hoping for masquerain, amazing

[lofty spindle]

MAractus would have been nice... well I guess this one at least evolves.

Say, do we have a working Maractus sprite? Can we play pretend?

[somber crow]

Actually Surskit but Masquerain comes with it so...

[silk narwhal]

soooooooooooooo slowly......

[frank oxide]

mimikyucacnea

[fiery blade]

I love cacturne but Ludicolo PLEASE T^T

[frank oxide]

they could've made the des(s)ert joke

[scenic agate]

What's the over under on this GIF being sent here today

[sharp nebula]

okay fine ill redo my tier list geez

[silent acorn]

Nice a feathered serpent.

[civic harness]

YEEAAH

[tidal ridge]

Well here's my predictions on the remaining blitz/community vote pokemon

[civic harness]

KAAJJAJAJAJA

Anyways, another reveal

[tidal ridge]

I've lost hope for Lurantis unless they win the blitz vote

[toxic dock]

oh hell yes. we got spikey boi

[civic harness]

YESSSS

[wise citrus]

You better move my boy rockruff up >:0

[tidal ridge]

I mean realistically it's about a 50/50 chance

Blitz mon are pokemon that aren't necessarily the most popular but would add the most in terms of fusions

[craggy lynx]

May i ask why Crustle or Vespiqueen? I'm curious

[dry nest]

So no Maractus??

[tidal ridge]

Yeah no there's no chance because of Cacnea

[tidal ridge]

I feel like they'd make for some interesting fusions, which is why I think it's possible they'll be picked

[hard token]

need mosa and lurantis

[fallen loom]

I wasn't expecting Cacnea line, but It's a pleasant surprise!

[lofty spindle]

Don't believe in Ribombee?

[tidal ridge]

Sadly no

[lofty spindle]

How come?

[tidal ridge]

I mean I love the little guy but I highly doubt they'll be picked unless a miracle happens

[lofty spindle]

Even in the vote? Ribombee seems very popular.

[tidal ridge]

They do have their fans yeah but I don't know if it'll be enough

[lofty spindle]

I mean I easily see it over Vannilite and Slurpuff.

[tidal ridge]

I feel like it's possible they can be picked because we don't really have any food-related pokemon in the roster
They could very easily fit that role

[fallen loom]

I want at least 1 Gen 7 bug line to make it!

[cedar fjord]

Farfetch'd has always been in the game though?

[hexed agate]

Bananeck and the drill that will pierce the heavens hype

[fallen loom]

Types based off of Gen 7 percentages:

35/45 Dragon Types (77.8%)
33/44 Ghost Types (75%)
33/49 Steel Types (71.7%)
47/66 Poison Types (71.2%)
44/64 Ground Types (68.8%)
38/64 Fire Types (59.4%)
60/101 Flying Types (59.4%)
35/60 Rock Types (58.3%)
28/49 Electric Types (57.1%)
45/83 Psychic Types (54.2%)
25/47 Fairy Types (53.2%)
69/131 Water Types (52.7%)
25/48 Dark Types (52.1%)
57/111 Normal Types (51.4%)
17/34 Ice Types (50%)
48/97 Grass Types (47.5%)
36/77 Bug Types (46.8%)
22/52 Fighting Types (42.3%)

[frozen oracle]

There is only one gen 6 bug line

[tidal ridge]

Haha but that's not really food

[fallen loom]

I meant 7

[hexed agate]

Golisopod Hype

[lofty spindle]

For the extras, but in the vote?

[feral bear]

https://tenor.com/view/spritzee-perfume-monster-flying-pair-fluttering-birds-pokemon-gif-11135225774913555662

[tidal ridge]

I'm mainly referring to the blitz in terms of picks, because honestly we kinda already know who's gonna win the remaining community votes

[fallen loom]

should have evolved into Flamigo

[frozen oracle]

Does anyone know thw type percentage of heads and bodies in PIF?

[fallen loom]

honestly, we really do need a Gen 7 bug, since they're peak and not adding one is weird AF after adding Trubbish

[cedar fjord]

up to what point? Because there are so many spriters working on stuff this literally changes hour by hour whoops thought you were talking about sprites

[tidal ridge]

Anyways here was my top 20 when the community vote was first announced
I guess I'm happy I got about half of them

[gentle ferry]

Well throwing my prediction chart out lol.

[fallen loom]

Cacnea was a pretty random choice

[tidal ridge]

I get why they were added, the cactus mon were very highly requested

[grand hull]

I got 9 out of 20 so far

[fallen loom]

weren't Gen 7 bugs too? I hope Wimpod line or Cutiefly line come tomorrow

[tidal ridge]

Well yes, but I guess we'll just have to see

[sharp nebula]

im done

[cedar fjord]

I think Araquanid is more likely than the Wimpod line if its from the Blitz

just due to more unique mechanics that aren't actively bad

[fallen loom]

I really like that line too

[tidal ridge]

We still have two blitz lines left, a spriter pick and four community slots left

[fallen loom]

spriter pick?

[tidal ridge]

After the blitz pokemon are finished spriters can vote on one final line

[sharp nebula]

theres also gonna be a raffle for the sprite contest winners

[cedar fjord]

I thought you got put in a drawing if you did a sprite for the Blitz?

[tidal ridge]

Oh really? Didn't know about that

[thorny ferry]

They tricked us with sandygast again 😆

The cacnea line is pretty hype ngl

[fallen loom]

so 4 mystery lines left, Necrozma, Sandygast and an extra mystery mon from the vote

[gusty shuttle]

Wait why is Golisopod there alone? Am I dumb?

[lofty spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p_VVJMBwTs

[lofty spindle]

Oh hey look at what showed up in my recommendations.

[grand hull]

No I just forgot to add it just swap out wimpod with marshadow

[round light]

Exploud ain't makin it

[glass prairie]

holy crap we still have a lot more coming. W.

[toxic dock]

i think imma give up hope for lilgant

[round light]

i'm sad😕

[tidal ridge]

If Ribombee somehow makes it in I won't even care if Lurantis is gone

[fallen loom]

4 mystery lines left, Necrozma, Sandygast and an extra mystery mon from the vote

[round light]

yep, no Exploud

[tidal ridge]

Honestly I'm happy with the added mons so far
They added a ton of pokemon that absolutely deserved it

[round light]

i don't think i've been happy once with any of em, mostly cuz i'm just hoping for Exploud and idc what else gets added

[tidal ridge]

It's kind of surreal to think that before this update Mawile was in the game but Sableye wasn't

[terse fable]

Agreed, only mon I was whatever about was Dhelmise, but after seeing some Fusions that's even seemed like a good add so excited for what's next

[round light]

what's Dhelmise again?

[glass prairie]

the ship anchor

[terse fable]

The anchor thing

Looking like some seaweed

[round light]

oh that thing, i didn't even know it existed

[tidal ridge]

Honestly I've learned by now that the lamest pokemon almost always make the coolest fusions in this game

[round light]

EXPLOUDDDD

[round light]

his color palette is peak

[arctic glacier]

Golisipod has some baller colors

[terse fable]

Exploud's cool and I'd be happy with him, I personally want Drapion or Ludicolo or Regi's but legendaries might be coming in some other thing

[cedar merlin]

cactus

[marsh silo]

holy sh-

[round light]

he's amazing too

[arctic glacier]

But I’m sure they won votes

[round light]

how much did you vote Exploud?

[frank oxide]

3

[arctic glacier]

I’m not excited for more legendaries, I want more Pokemon to encounter and use in actual playthroughs

[round light]

no way, there's actual Exploud fans besides me

[cedar merlin]

i kinda feel like exploud is a bit uneccessary with noivern filling that "sound boom" niche, but i wouldn't be opposed to it

[round light]

God, be on my side with this one

[white meadow]

I have been summoned

[shell epoch]

didnt they also have startes in the choice like Greninja?

[cedar merlin]

tbf i got my sharpedo wish, so im happy haha

[tawdry cave]

Is there anything on when the new Pokémon would be implemented/available? Also big golisopod fan

[tidal ridge]

Yes but they've been ommitted from the vote

[surreal cradle]

YES, CACTURNE WOO

NOW ONLY GOLISOPOD AND CRAWDAUNT HAVE TO MAKE IT IN AND I'LL BE COMPLETELY HAPPY

[arctic glacier]

Cool fusion armor

[round light]

like who actually cares about Cacturne

[cedar merlin]

i do really want furfrou tho... would be so cool to make new styles based on other pokemon

[surreal cradle]

<this guy

[shell epoch]

what does that mean? They wont be in the game?

[unborn obsidian]

I want Espurr line and Purrloin line

[round light]

ty😁

[tidal ridge]

They were removed from the community vote because the starters were literally all that people voted for

[fallen loom]

it means an extra dark type

[tidal ridge]

So yeah they weren't up for voting

[shell epoch]

so will they get added regardless?

[white meadow]

Should've made them separate

[cedar merlin]

i mean, new starter means new triple, but yeah starters just take up too much room

[tidal ridge]

They might

[round light]

there's not enough cool dark types? also if you need a dark type move, use a dog with bite or crunch

[glass prairie]

goobers @ voters

[arctic glacier]

Honestly a W

[fallen loom]

Like Poochyena and Rockruff... oh wait

[round light]

bruh there's some good ones

[cedar merlin]

im not upset about cacturne, we don't have a cactus pokemon yet so that's a nice little niche. cactus dude also opens the door for succulent fusions 🤔

[tidal ridge]

I would agree, but so many people would've complained about missing starters

It's probably for the best that they were removed entirely

[round light]

the triple fusions too

[white meadow]

Let them mald

[tidal ridge]

Like I love the gen 7 starters but the 9 slots was not worth it lol

[fallen loom]

Not really? The main problem with starters is you can't get them right away (unless you change starter region)

[robust geyser]

I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE THE HIPPO 😭

[round light]

isn't he already in? I see him quite often in the safari zone

[arctic glacier]

We have enough water, fire, grass with torrent, blaze, overgrow

[fallen loom]

no

[robust geyser]

Hippowdon ? No

[cedar merlin]

also feel like a lot of starters sort of overlap in aesthetic/typing with previous starters

[gusty shuttle]

I tried to imagine the situation if Pidove somehow by a miracle gets in. Considering how bad Dhelmise was welcomed (to my surprise honestly), Pidove would start an absolute shitstorm of deadly size
Considering how much I'm antagonized by some just for rooting Pidove, if he gets in I'm not surviving my 23rd year of life 💀

[round light]

i swear i've seen hippowdon before, for sure in the safari zone

[fallen loom]

IF is missing 20 Ground Types (so far) from gens 3-7

[robust geyser]

It was an hallucination then

[tawdry cave]

Insert fire fighting joke here

[robust geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/turning-on-the-fire-hose-darren-ritter-chicago-fire-put-out-the-fire-extinguish-the-fire-gif-21640208

[grand hull]

Pidoves fine I just hate it’s evolutions

[round light]

nah but actually, i have never played the old gen games, but i can remember hippowdons png fully

[glass prairie]

lmaoo. as much as i think it wouldnt be worth the vote, i do agree that it makes sense that pidove is in since it's a very common pokemon

[cedar merlin]

hehe i was the hundredth cactus reaction on the new announcement

[gusty shuttle]

No but even as a bonus pick, channel would fire up 🔥 Dhelmise was bonus and it did on a worrying degree

[glass prairie]

u sure about that?

[round light]

imagine they just say: nahh we're just gonna add em all

[terse fable]

hehe i was the hundredth cactus reaction on the new announcement

[cedar merlin]

someone deleted theirs, but in my heart of hearts, they can never take it away from me

[glass prairie]

smhh idk why i keep forgetting bonus pkmn exist

[gusty shuttle]

and people be fighting over those too smh

[cedar merlin]

idk why people didn't like dhelmise. it opens up the door for so many rad fusions

all the dhelmise sprites i've seen so far have been insane

[tawdry cave]

Plus steelworker sounds fun to use in practice imo

[silk narwhal]

Exhibit A

[gusty shuttle]

I feel like Dhelmise had a decent amount of propaganda, but maybe it was just by one? Can't remember

[fallen loom]

Ground Types missing from FA:
Hippopotas line
Mudbray line
Baltoy line
Landorus
Drilbur line
Numel line
Barboach line
Gastrodon
Palpitoad + Seismitoad
Diggersby
Zygarde
Sandygast line (so far)

[sharp nebula]

you have no idea how happy this makes me

[cedar merlin]

the dhelmise/torterra fusion is also 👌

[dry nest]

i like ribombee, so cute!

[tawdry cave]

Actually now that you mention it, blue gastrodon has such good colors. I want

[clever atlas]

Nincada is in bruh

[robust geyser]

There were at least three people advocating for him, but only in the early days

[tawdry cave]

Ribombee is awesome

[fallen loom]

oh oops, I keep on thinking of Shedinja as a separate mon

[cedar merlin]

i wonder what they'll do with old fusions that resemble other pokemon if those pokemon get in. have they said yet? for example, i know raichu/rapidash is a zebstrika reference 🤔

[prisma willow]

They are indeed cute and one of the Pokemon I put at 3

[clever atlas]

I mean, Ninjask still has a preevo

[fallen loom]

I got it mixed up with Drilbur not being in

[clever atlas]

Ok fair then

[tawdry cave]

If it’s not confusing it probably isn’t a problem right? Funnier from a certain perspective

[shell epoch]

I thought one slot is the group they present you and not the amount of pokemon

[tidal ridge]

No its one slot for each individual pokemon

[shell epoch]

that sucks :/

I wish Greninja would be possible without its pre evolutions

[fallen loom]

we still have 4 lines left + leaked mon and one unknown vote mon

[shell epoch]

Froaky isnt bad, but I rather have just Greninja and have other cool mons fill up slots

[sturdy breach]

I would rather take everything but Greninja in that line

[cedar merlin]

i've never been a greninja girl, but i wish the best for the greninja supporters out there

[shell epoch]

personally I think Greninja offers a lot for fusions, I am trying to think of what kind of fusions could be done with pokemon

[clever atlas]

Hey you're alive again

[sturdy breach]

Always have been 😉

[tawdry cave]

Agree, also feel similarly with decidueye but I’m biased

[shell epoch]

nah it also has a fire design

I just want more good fusions, thats why I want certain pokemon to come to the game

[tawdry cave]

That’s so valid

[shell epoch]

a lot of my votes, I am not even a fan of, but I know the artists will work their magic with them

[tawdry cave]

Honestly, spriters have gone so hard with some really innocuous combinations also

[fallen loom]

22/54 Fighting Types = 40.7% from Gens 1-7

[tawdry cave]

Fun to see what they come up with

[grizzled cradle]

fun to make them

[cedar merlin]

that's why i voted for most of what i voted for. i want furfrou so bad because i think it'd make so many cool fusions

[shell epoch]

will the new pokemon implemented after all have been shown off?

[fallen loom]

it would too!

plus Fur Coat is broken

[tawdry cave]

Oh wait I forgot about fur coat

[shell epoch]

There are many broken combos so having one more option I dont see a problem with

[tawdry cave]

Agree, personally can’t wait to run noivern/porygonz

[cedar merlin]

not sure how furfrou's coats would be handled in game tho, maybe they could just be alts?

[tawdry cave]

Adaptability boomburst sounds funny

[fallen loom]

probably just alts, also Furfrou body fusions could have Pokémon-themed cuts

[drowsy drift]

it's a straight upgrade over porygonz/flygon

[tawdry cave]

Yeah, faster and higher spA I think even besides adaptability. Sounds so fun

[short garden]

OH cacnea! although i don't get why maractus wasnt added, it's the better cactus by far

[maiden flume]

YO! Cacnea and Cacturne are coming too! Another Grass option!

[finite thistle]

Cacturne is dual type and has better stats

[finite thistle]

I was actually thinking Pixilate Boomburst off of Sylveon, which would also give us Dragon/Fairy

[maiden flume]

While Maractus is cute, I think most people including myself prefer Cacturne

Plus Cacnea is iconic

[white meadow]

Dancing cactus or stalking cactus

[olive dagger]

Maractus would be one of my favorites in the universe where there's a Sound type

[final spire]

Does anyone know how many more new pokemon are gonna make it in?

[clear tiger]

LETSSS GOOOO I LOVE CACTUS GUY LETS G OOOOOOOOO

[wooden crag]

YES CACTURNE

[final spire]

Can't wait to see an aegislash cacturne fusion lol

[wooden crag]

Favorite pkmn of all time

[stone cliff]

Prickly boi confirmed

[tawdry cave]

That also sounds rly fun

[final spire]

Speaking of which I hope there's an easier way of getting hidden abilities onto fusions soon

[sturdy breach]

Isn't that already possible with Flygon though?

[silent acorn]

Cacnea/honedge is a prickly club so...

[tawdry cave]

I think noivern is faster and more specially offensive, so more of an upgrade

[sturdy breach]

Oh right, I didn't read up far enough... my bad

[feral bear]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-aromatisse-power-gif-17494434

[tawdry cave]

Np lol, lots of (justified) cacturne posting

[sturdy breach]

Oh! I almost forgot this

[sick robin]

After oct. 6 are there still new mons that'll potentially be added or would that be it for new mons?

[opaque ether]

Can't say I'm too hyped for the latest reveal, but it's another Hoenn Pokemon and definitely has some fusion design potential. Still hoping we can get a certain other Dark-type line from Hoenn though.

[late thunder]

There's still the last four from the survey, plus alternate forms of preexisting mons.

[tough shore]

There are still 4 mons from the polls to be announced + the contest winners raffle

And the spriter popularity pool

[glacial vigil]

I doubt poochyena will ever make it in

4 pokemon slots from the poll, 2 lines from blitz, and 2 contest votes for spriters iirc

[graceful torrent]

we really manifested cacturne into existing

[graceful torrent]

wait theyre actually doing alt-forms and regional variants?

[somber dawn]

YOOOOOOO

#CacneaSweep

[forest vapor]

Yeah, I have all but given up on most lines I like not already announced. Maybe most likely of my picks are aurorus or lycanroc, but not really very likely either. I imagine 3 of the unannounced original polls are sand castle duo/necrozma

[glacial vigil]

Not confirmed, but it is a possibility now with the introduction of Oricorio

[graceful torrent]

give me alolan ninetails plz :(

[forest vapor]

They did mention possible Giratina alt form too!

[late thunder]

#announcements message
I double checked and they said it's possible in the (far)future. Sorry for getting hopes up.

[nimble stump]

Weren’t the sand castles secretly revealed in the playtests? Or is that Trubbish and Garbodor I’m thinking of

[forest vapor]

Yeah that was playtests for sand castles

[prime dust]

at best regional variants will either be alt sprites for the base form, or an alt sprite for a fusion

[prime dust]

4 community poll mons, 1 spriter poll mon, 1 spriter raffle mon

beyond that it is kind of up in the air

[full ether]

I'm game for whatever

[glacial vigil]

If I could sprite, I would join in on all the fun, just to make fusions with the eevee line

Or a less popular one, dewgong

Ah, maybe I could try

[prime dust]

if you want to delve into it #spriting-guidelines

[sick robin]

Thanks for clarifying :)

[autumn swan]

Man where's Palossand

[sick robin]

My most wanted mon was dhelmise so I'm happy they're in
Silvally is probably the next mon I want in

[full ether]

The addition of Sivally would be neat but taxing for the the spriters

[pale flame]

Trash bin

[pale flame]

Not really? It'd probably be like Arceus Jr.

[autumn swan]

[full ether]

I guess yeah that would makes sense

[pale flame]

I mean it's a bargain bin arceus

[full ether]

True

[sullen elbow]

And arceus isn't taxing?

[pale flame]

I think they're talking about the rk disks or whatever

The thing you use to change it's type

[full ether]

Yeah

[twilit hedge]

How much Pokémon are left

[pale flame]

17

[forest vapor]

94

[sullen elbow]

How much is this asked per hour?

[forest vapor]

about the same number tbh

[forest vapor]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message

[sullen elbow]

Anyways, how many Pokemon left?

[full ether]

Ha good one

[pale flame]

17

[forest vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/this-much-tmr-gatordone-spring-playing-gif-15307732

[silent acorn]

100

At this point I think we can say the limit is rising a bit everytime. Like this is one of those things where they are checking how much they can add like a jenga tower before it falls down

[full ether]

Great analogy

[silent acorn]

Like during this blirz week we have gotten 2 one stagers and most have been 2 stagers so far. So.. If the next two are 1 stagers this could be 8 new pokemon added prevos and all.

[feral bear]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-charge-beam-aromatisse-gif-13030741

[wanton coral]

Cacturne is a lame choice

[full ether]

I think it's cool

[wanton coral]

I guess you could do technician needle arm sets, but that's only 10 more power than seed bomb

[sharp nebula]

oh no, number too small

[full ether]

Damage is still there

[rugged wedge]

hate to say it but odds are we arent getting it

[cinder oasis]

Technician boosts it by 50% so that would be 90 power

[silent acorn]

Nah I wouldn't count on that. There is 4 slots left datamined is on the air despite what the team say sometimes. But even then there would be 1 slot left that could go to meloetta or something else

[cinder oasis]

Pairing it with a kings rock or using serene grace instead would make it flinch very often

[silent acorn]

Not affected by kings rock so...

Still. 60% chance to flinch with serene grace is crazy

[cobalt coral]

man they adding some fucking bangers next update, really hopeful for Sableye and Hawlucha specially

[cinder oasis]

Though tbh cacturne isn't my favorite either, I'd prefer many many other pokemon

[cinder oasis]

Hawlucha is confirmed buddy

[silent acorn]

That's fine. Honestly cacturne is a usable cool mon, doesn't have to break people's minds.

[cobalt coral]

No yeah i mean i'm very excited to see what fusions we get with them

[cinder oasis]

Oh alright

[silent acorn]

Something fun cacturne gets is sand veil and water absorb

[cinder oasis]

Both aren't that interesting

[silent acorn]

I'd argue you could pair cacturne well with a Tyranitar or something

[silent acorn]

Doesn't have to be, just needs to be solid enough. Both abilities were essentially useless on it before

[wanton coral]

I know. That's what I said

[cinder oasis]

I guess

[cobalt nebula]

Hell yeah! Cactus Pokémon!

[wraith dew]

Comeonnnn I just want fomantis

[untold geode]

Please, she's already in the game technically. Just let me have this.

[silk narwhal]

boom

[silent acorn]

You know maractus got water absorb, Chlorophyl which as usual is kinda general on most grass mons and storm drain. But like it has the issue as cacturne in that these abilities don't protect it as is

[wraith dew]

Why didnt you make the mouth a famous luchador

[silk narwhal]

huh

[cinder oasis]

You want a human face or some shit?

[wraith dew]

Hawlucha is a luchador

[silent acorn]

Because that's essentially quetzalcoatl which is as Mexican as wrestling gets in that country

Like you want a puny humanoid compared to the serpent God of the winds?

[old kayak]

I love this

[wraith dew]

Yes

[silk narwhal]

at first it was just "theropod dinosaur" , then a terror bird, but as soon as i colored it, i realized it was basically quetzalcoatl

[silent acorn]

It is. And it's fine as is, I wouldn't change anything about it.

[cinder oasis]

That's idiotic

[sharp nebula]

youre a meloetta enjoyer right?

[cinder oasis]

That's random as hell damn

[silk narwhal]

thank youuuuu

[silent acorn]

I think Rick was going for necrozma, and what else? Gastrodon?

[silk narwhal]

of course i am. Meloetta is pretty much the reason i'm participating in the blitz

[sharp nebula]

excellent work, as you were

[silent acorn]

Good luck Rick! We need you!

[silk narwhal]

absolutely not gastrodon lmao

[silent acorn]

Lol sorry I can't remember exactly what it was.

[wraith dew]

Noivern,Goodra and Fomantis

Those where my 3 wanted mons

[silent acorn]

Well you got your dragons. Hope you are satisfied

[cinder oasis]

What I need is Torkoal and Ludicolo

[wraith dew]

All im hoping for is Fomantis and that Lurantis and Noivern get a fusion

[cinder oasis]

So like Lurantis/Noivern?

[wraith dew]

Ye

Oh yeah I also wanted Scolipede had a interest in those recently glad their in

[silk narwhal]

Necrozma, Meloetta, Golisopod are the main ones

[wraith dew]

Wasnt Golisopod announced?

[silk narwhal]

you know what, i might be putting too much effort into this blitz lmao

[sharp nebula]

no its okay, sacrifice your sanity

do it for her

[wraith dew]

I said 0 on all legends and mythicals cause i hate em(except for 2)

[mystic crystal]

I mean we have until the 20th; i'd rather people make quality sprites rather than cheap recolours I appreciate you putting in effort

[silk narwhal]

thank you (:

[opaque flare]

i gave cresselia a 2
which is the only legend i voted

[wraith dew]

Legends are weak

[honest tartan]

i gave everything a 0 😎

[grand hull]

Quite the opposite really I mean that’s the whole point of them

[opaque flare]

the only reason for cresselia was darkrai

[grand hull]

Also diancie is on top

[zealous flint]

Still no tropius and i woulda prefered maractus but still a neat addition

[wraith dew]

Why have a whole team of legends,that just shows how weak you as a person is.When 2 pokemon can beat em.

[opaque flare]

the only reason for legendaries to exist is to collect

[zealous flint]

They exist for lore

[grand hull]

So what you’re saying is they’re too strong and that makes you weak?

[opaque flare]

if you use legendaries in your team you shouldnt play pokemon

[ebon glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-rabbit-cute-gif-15676652

[wraith dew]

Ive defeated an arceus before with a vulpix.

[gusty shuttle]

WO

[zealous flint]

Ok but ogerpon is just too cute

[grand hull]

Ok doesn’t make legends bad I still like them quite a lot

[opaque flare]

whatever that is ......

[honest tartan]

updated list of the number of used pokemon types in PIF ||after Not Pallosand reveal||
ice (17). fighting (22). dark, fairy (25). electric (28).
ghost, steel (33). dragon, rock (35). bug (36). fire (38). ground (44).
psychic (45). poison (47). grass (48).
normal (57). flying (60). water (69).
Dark now ties with Fairy. Grass surpassed Poison.
Still have the funny number on water types!!!!!!!!!!

[late thunder]

You take legends for fun. If I wanted to flex and break the game with one pokemon I'd set up a prankster+spore combo, but that gets boring real quick.

[zealous flint]

New scarlet and violet DLC pokemon

[wraith dew]

I think solely depending on their stats alone makes you weak. Point of pokemon is strategy

[grand hull]

Also the things that’s good is their stats are good so if you fuse it with a bad Pokémon it’s still fine

[opaque flare]

yeah .......... i stopped after US/UM

[zealous flint]

Alr

[gusty shuttle]

I spent 15 minutes throwing my whole fucking bag on Giratina's head in pokémon plat and you don't want me to even have it in the team? smh

[ebon glacier]

how many blitz votes do you currently have?

[grand hull]

You can use strategy with legends their not that good

[silk narwhal]

is that good oor what

[marsh folio]

YESSSSS CACTURNE LETS GOOOOOOOOO

[zealous flint]

What moves was the arceus using

[honest tartan]

hmm
(mean words) (mean words)

[stiff storm]

Wait, pokemon got into the whole DLC thing? Please tell me it isnt at least day 1 dlc

[wraith dew]

It used a giant flame move forgot the name its been like 5 or more years since that act

[zealous flint]

Its been out for about 2 weeks

[grand hull]

It took me 3 hours to finish

[lapis gate]

I left for a few hours and now i see my absolut BOIS are in the game lets hec*ing (excuse the strong language) gooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[gusty shuttle]

In a scale from 0 to Pidove, it's pretty fucking Pidove ngl
I would have it on the team most likely, at least for a while
@little ibex look at this

[wraith dew]

Its been had dlc.

[zealous flint]

Theres also a part 2 of the DLC coming out in the winter

[silk narwhal]

hell yeah, i'm pidove tier

[gusty shuttle]

@little ibex at this rather

[zealous flint]

Pidove is cute

[wraith dew]

Sword and sheild had "dlc" dlc but if you can also technically add live events as dlc.

[zealous flint]

The sword and shield dlc didnt really have any story tho

[wraith dew]

Go to it get an item and unlock a new area catch the mon.

[warm prism]

hec*ing
MR. ELECTRIC KILL HIM

[zealous flint]

Hecking L censorship

[wraith dew]

Seems everyones enjoying the new mythical ogrepon

[zealous flint]

Its cute

I originally liked terapagos more but its gonna be hard for terapagos to beat ogerpon in popularity now

[wraith dew]

And yes its mythical i don't gots the dlc so the only way of obtaining it is events like normal event cards

[zealous flint]

Yuh

Cant wait to add mudkip to my team in the indigo disc

[woeful root]

I am pretty happy to see my cactus bois, but I can only guess how angry pallosand fans got

[zealous flint]

L pallosand

[honest tartan]

hot take
ogerpom is ok

[zealous flint]

As long as its not below that i respect it

[honest tartan]

below luvdisk def but i didnt want to say it

[zealous flint]

I dont respect that

[honest tartan]

some people cant handle the truth such as castform is better than ogerpom

[full ether]

Okay wait what

[onyx bluff]

Castform the jugs pokemon? O:

[honest tartan]

Castform is cool and from gen 3 and has an ice form. ogerpom does not have ice form. castform wins.

[onyx bluff]

Impossible to unsee it :/

[woeful root]

God I don't even want to know what people would try with castform

[full ether]

Well then that was a very thought out argument

[honest tartan]

unsee what? its just 3 orbs

[onyx bluff]

I mean just look at it, absolutely cursed x'D

[honest tartan]

they'lll give it a sandstorm form!!

[zealous flint]

A heart with eyes is better than this (spoilered for spoilers)

[honest tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/castform-gif-26745718

[zealous flint]

Not talking about castform

[woeful root]

I'm more referring to what would happen when it gets fused with stuff like gardevoir or loppuny

[zealous flint]

Oh i thought you said luvdisc nvm

[honest tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-group-hug-munchlax-rowlet-gif-18513209

[zealous flint]

Oh

[honest tartan]

the same thing that happened to goodra.

[zealous flint]

Its just a heart with eyes though how does that beat ogerpon

[onyx bluff]

Professor Kukui was the most sus pokemon character I have ever seen bar none. Dude was full on innuendo master in pokemon sun and moon xD

[woeful root]

I'll never understand why people do those things to the cute dragon

[full ether]

Same

[zealous flint]

Slime girls

[woeful root]

It's just a lovable friend

[honest tartan]

there are 5 goodra/lopunny in #sprite-gallery smh...

[pale sparrow]

my hunger for fighting types is satisfied for now, so its time to get back to demanding more 🧊 baby!

[zealous flint]

Whats wrong with amaura

[woeful root]

I like amaura, even if it's a bad pokemon

[pale sparrow]

nothing, at this point I'd be happy with it, but I made this picture before we got tyrunt, at which point I would have preffered neither

[zealous flint]

You demand more ice amaura is ice

O

[honest tartan]

aurorus crabominable abomasnow we need em all

[pale sparrow]

yeah not that last one

[zealous flint]

Tropius is all i need to be happy

[honest tartan]

whats wrong with abomasnow?

[sharp nebula]

except crabominable

[woeful root]

I don't like crabominable, but I do think it has fun fusion potential, although if I had to pick a crustacean crawdaunt would be my first choice

[rugged temple]

WBIDKEJFODJWNRJT I GOT MY CACTUS IN

https://tenor.com/view/turn-up-aye-hype-excited-goofy-gif-15111254

[pale sparrow]

[honest tartan]

[onyx bluff]

Would variant forms of pokemon basically act as a brand new pokemon for intents and purpose to adding it to the game? Alolan ninetales > Abomasnow 😛

[zealous flint]

Its face is its problem

[honest tartan]

Never stopped dhelmise and glalie from getting in

[zealous flint]

Glalie and dhelmise dont have ugly faces

[silk narwhal]

I now have three blitz sprites left

[honest tartan]

neither does crabominable

[obtuse silo]

I need a new fire type

[onyx bluff]

That is a face even a mother can't love D:

[honest tartan]

you are jealous of crabominable?

[zealous flint]

So your trolling or

[honest tartan]

Fighting/Ice is needed in PIF so anything we can get matters

also it is crab 🦀

[stable mango]

https://tenor.com/view/impidimp-correndo-pokemon-running-gif-15213997

[warm prism]

Look at 'em gooooooo

[zealous flint]

https://tenor.com/view/gigalith-pokemon-gif-24084788

[stable mango]

https://tenor.com/view/ducklett-pokemon-cute-gif-18010747

[obtuse silo]

Hoping for torkoal or camerupt

[honest tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-turtonator-turtle-dragon-gif-314142254059258788

[stable mango]

Biggest hope is sewaddle but I'd take any new fairy type

[fleet hull]

https://tenor.com/view/castform-sunday-castform-sunday-pokemon-gif-27445181

[surreal chasm]

If Sandygast isn't revealed tomorrow and they're just saving it to the end (they are they are) then I hope they reveal Slurpuff because yummy cake fusions

[opaque flare]

castform would be nice, but dragalge better

[cinder oasis]

Castform wouldn't be nice, it sucks

[surreal chasm]

I think Dhelmise might deconfirm Dragalge unfortunately

[lofty spindle]

She emotes like Fumo.

[stable mango]

See my big reason for wanting sewaddle besides it being my favorite bug pokemon is there is so much you could do with various clothing designs and styles based off the pokemon you fuse leavanny with

[opaque flare]

then you dont know how to use castform for its full potential

[surreal chasm]

Spriters can get really creative with castform so I think it's good

[opaque flare]

beside the fusion potential

[urban flax]

monkey's paw curls
https://assets.pokemon.com/assets/cms2/img/pokedex/full/875.png

[fleet hull]

Proof? There are no valid counterarguments you can provide

[urban flax]

although tbh it wouldn't be a horrible pick for the fusion potential, lol

[silk narwhal]

It would be fantastic if Toad coded a few fan favourite gen 8-9 mons as a little treat

Tinkaton

[urban flax]

oh wait, Eiscue is Gen 8 nevermind

[fleet hull]

They probably would have already if it wasnt extremely difficult

[stable mango]

Spinda would be fun but there is no way they could fit all the forms in the game

[urban flax]

better monkey's paw
https://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/1a/0582Vanillite.png

[opaque flare]

tbh, eiscue looks like the game devs had no idea ... so they just put an icecube on a penguin body

[fleet hull]

Vanillite would be a good thing

[stable mango]

I never got why people hate vanillite he's just a little guy

[urban flax]

it would be silly, but I feel like only the body fusions would be interesting

[honest tartan]

Voltorb and electrode are literally just pokeballs with a face

[opaque flare]

touché

[rugged temple]

As long as Claydol makes it in, the rest of the slots can be whatever

[honest tartan]

as long as claydol doesnt make it in i will be happy

[rugged temple]

This is why we dont send you cake on your birthday

[surreal chasm]

Claydol fusions would be pure nightmare fuel

[urban flax]

maybe we can get Magearna or Diancie

[lofty spindle]

If Vanillite joins can we give it Refrigerate.

[honest tartan]

i will send my own cake.

[obtuse silo]

I can see a bonus ice pokemon for christmas

[opaque flare]

abomasnow on christmas

[stable mango]

Snom

[obtuse silo]

Abomasnow wiuld make a lot of sense

[opaque flare]

abomasnow + sceptile = christmas tree

[obtuse silo]

I think right now we only have 11 fully evolved ice type mon if i didnt miscount

[graceful torrent]

Mega sceptile with a Christmas tree tail

[lofty spindle]

Think we'll see any new ones that soon after this?

[honest tartan]

delibird:

[glacial vigil]

I like Vannilite personally, just always thought the evolutions looked stupid

Still do tbh

[honest tartan]

you dont like ice cream?

[lofty spindle]

Object-mons are hated.

I do like it but such literal indpirations spark anger.

[obtuse silo]

I could only guess but i feel like holidays would be a good opportunity

[inland jewel]

Guy doesn’t like double and triple scoop ice cream

[glacial vigil]

I don't dislike the concept, just don't like the execution

[mystic rivet]

But think of all the fun ice creams. You can have a poorly made Pikachu popsicle with the slightly misplaced gumball eyes.

[glacial vigil]

I have a big love-hate relationship with gen 5

On one hand, it had some very cool pokemon and seasons

On the other, it has some very stupid pokemon and high evolution levels

[mystic rivet]

Some of the most boring pokemon overall, but some of my absolute favorites are also gen5 so it gets a pass.

Plus really good world

[glacial vigil]

Gen 5 is like... you either love or hate the pokemon, there are almost none that you feel meh about

[obtuse silo]

In terms of fusion designs vanillux would be amazing

[glacial vigil]

That is how I feel, at least

[obtuse silo]

Same with cryogonal

[stable mango]

If vanillux and clefable didn't make blue Moon ice cream I'd be disappointed

[mystic rivet]

Was never big on stunfisk, but Galarian stunfisk natural selecting into a freaking bear trap is metal af

Good ol Gnashfisk

[upper talon]

i like cryogonal its a good pokemon

[obtuse silo]

To me its lika that typical elemental monster but i like those

[opaque flare]

tbh, cryogonal shouldve been steel/ice

[obtuse silo]

I dont see the steel

[opaque flare]

dont your also see the steel in metagross...?

[feral bear]

https://tenor.com/view/sassy-aromatisse-perfume-monster-pokemon-game-gif-27404553

[obtuse silo]

I do on metagross

[opaque flare]

cryogonal is the same color :/

[obtuse silo]

The texture is like a crystal though

[opaque flare]

the shape is an average snowflake .. tho, the color hue is just wrong .... color looks like its steel type

[urban flax]

I want this just for its pre-evo, but even for the evo, the fusions could make the body look better as well

[stone cliff]

Delibird + Sceptile makes a Christmas tree lol

[stiff ibex]

Can someone come up with a fusion between garados and larion

[stone cliff]

#sprite-requests

[dusty arrow]

guys

[opaque flare]

i take everything back i said ...... abomasnow = useless crap xD

[stiff ibex]

Thanks

[dusty arrow]

ill support meloetta on one condition

[glossy osprey]

One dream one wish

[zealous flint]

You really like your guzzle huh

[stone cliff]

Guzzlord/Registeel lookin sussy

[stiff ibex]

How do I work the bot

[dusty arrow]

does she know how to make a grilled cheese

[stone cliff]

Honestly I've never used it

[zealous flint]

Try checking pins

[stiff ibex]

I want to suggest my fusion

[sand mica]

Can people please add Skuntank into the game?

[sand mica]

Guzzlord x Skuntank?

[stiff ibex]

It took me a minute but I got it

[white meadow]

Give us Gourgeist, come on...

[thorny ferry]

guzzlord heads go hard af

[glossy osprey]

It would look nice

[obtuse silo]

I still think it will be a mon for halloween

[cedar merlin]

if skunktank gets in there's going to be SO many fart joke sprites... like milktank's milk sprites lmao

[sand mica]

If it gets too much ask Hypnotoad to ban such sprites...

[cedar merlin]

i was mostly joking, i dont think it'd actually be THAT bad, but im sure it's bound to happen haha

[autumn radish]

I do wonder if the Mr.Mime and Skuntank fusion would make Mr. Tank (and it's sprites of tanks, the tank from L4D and other stuff. MAG agents from Madness Combat, even)

[cedar merlin]

although, im not sure Hypnotoad would care that much. if they were going to ban weird sprites, im sure 99.9% of miltank sprites would be thanos snapped in an instant haha

[stone cliff]

They're working on that actually

[opaque flare]

together with the spriter 😄

[cedar merlin]

ohhh, i didn't know that! i dont use miltank fusions much for that exact reason, so that's cool!

[raw bison]

Yeah they've expressed concern about other mons enabling problematic sprites. Which I disagree with on principle, but like, I get it

[loud depot]

Screw that, creepy fusions are great

[glacial vigil]

Miltank really was a joke getting out of hand

[silent acorn]

Yes

[honest tartan]

"Yoo hes drawing a lopunny fusion!!! Rule 2!!! Execute him!!!" (brings out guillotine)

[loud depot]

Miltank fusions are hilarious

[glacial vigil]

A lot of them ended up NSFW, and people either agreed or doubled down

And the miltank spriters were encouraging eachother

[silent acorn]

Love how a lot of people haven't watched anime where ladies battle with cosplay on

This gens need to watch power Rangers or something

[glacial vigil]

No, it was very bad. You had to be around and have seen them before they got edited

[loud depot]

NSFW stuff is obviously no good but creepy designs are fun

Like Mr mime

[glacial vigil]

An intervention was needed

[honest tartan]

we here at PIF headquarters are lactose intolerant, so milk is automatically a rule 2 violation

[silent acorn]

Ok what was it? Put it into words

[loud depot]

Mr mime parasect da god

[silent acorn]

You know there are a lot of people who make disturbing art online nothing gory just enough to freak people out

[cedar merlin]

i mean, miltank is fine most of the time, but some of them were really pushing it with the... placement of the "udder"

[honest tartan]

milk everywhere coming out of every pore

[glacial vigil]

I remember udder limps as well

[honest tartan]

Pokemon Go Miltank:

[silent acorn]

Well what do you want the "udder" is the very essence Miltank just like how Cradily has the interesting "petals" on its head

[glacial vigil]

It was really, really uncomfortable, to put it lightly

[cedar merlin]

the milk isn't the problem, it's placing it around/on the crotch, and pretending it wasn't done on purpose lol

[silent acorn]

I Just would wish people would draw them as cartoonish as they can

[loud depot]

Udders on armaldo are pretty great

Udder arms

[glacial vigil]

Before vc got removed, a child in VC was getting a panic attack over them

[silent acorn]

Udders and um babs are usually around the belly so sometimes you gotta put them delicately in their spot

[loud depot]

Why are kids on here

[rugged temple]

^

[glacial vigil]

They were like 13 or 14

[honest tartan]

tbh where else were they supposed to put it?

[silent acorn]

Why are kids here?
No seriously why are kids here?

[loud depot]

Ban em

[rugged temple]

Remove the child destroy the child

[honest tartan]

Kids on a pokemon server??? what a surprise!!

[loud depot]

Obliterate the child

[rugged temple]

Any situation in which I'm exposed to the voice and opinion of a minor is a human rights violation

[glacial vigil]

They were allowed in here, and even I, an adult, don't want anything to do with the abomination that were the old miltank sprites

[honest tartan]

there were also sprites in the game that violated rule 2 by a person who's name shall not be spoken but some of their sprites are still in the game

[cedar merlin]

its sad because i feel like miltank has so much potential beyond "hehe nipples". the miltank/mareep fusion is such a cute way to incorporate the milk aspect of miltank

[glacial vigil]

Rule 2 is very opinion based tbh, and people like to push it. I know there are sprites that ick me out because they feel fetishy

[honest tartan]

its kinda just broad and for some reason people cant get their head out of the gutter for a second when looking at a sprite

[silent acorn]

Can't use that fet word cuz minors and stuff

[brisk vessel]

Server full of minors
Puberty
Hormones

[rugged temple]

I thought you had to be an adult to use discord anyways

[stuck cave]

https://tenor.com/view/30rock-liz-lemon-tina-fey-youths-oh-god-gif-3938118

[honest tartan]

if a slaking or snorlax sprite has its eyes half closed is it tired or seductive
according to us in PIF, its seductive somehow

[honest tartan]

13+...

[cedar merlin]

i think it's 13+? don't quote me on exact age, but it's pretty young

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-whats-that-horrible-sound-children-gif-11724543

[brisk vessel]

I think in that case it's more a problem with sprite limitations and miscommunication

[gusty shuttle]

hehe nipples

I want to see some silly joke fusions for the new pokémon

And some creepypasta style Sableye of course
Even though base Sableye is already creepypasta material

[honest tartan]

we need more horror pokemon... Mr.Sir and Gyaraturn arent enough to combat the children

[gusty shuttle]

Mr. Sir haunts my dreams

I don't remember Gyaraturn tho, probably never saw it

[honest tartan]

Gyarados/lanturn

[dull root]

You mean Lanturn/Gyarados?

[gusty shuttle]

Bot command to show sprite doesn't work :(

[gusty shuttle]

Ah
Not Mr. Sir level, but still

[dull root]

None of the other sprites are even approaching horror. This one is just the most. Still normal. Not like Mr Sir at all lol

[glossy osprey]

if you want horror just wait until my guzzlord spiritomb ahaha

[gusty shuttle]

Ratras was another nightmare fuel, sadly now it has a new main sprite

[gusty shuttle]

Wait until guzzlord period

[honest tartan]

pinsir/charizard can fix that

[stone cliff]

Personally a huge fan of Pinsir/Charizard

[gusty shuttle]

BROOO

Reference to Gaping Dragon
I love it

[stone cliff]

Gaping dragon references always welcome

[gusty shuttle]

I need a gargoyle reference with Druddigon 🙏

I don't have many hopes for him tho

Druddigon/Gliscor maybe

[sand mica]

Don't let them make fat sprites then.

[terse falcon]

is that a pisaca

[silent acorn]

You mean like a demon?

[terse falcon]

yeah but specifically thinking of the smt interperation

[silent acorn]

Rule number 4 No Fart Joke fusions and no doodles of kids

Kids in my IF freaking out because this is their first step into the internet

[prime dust]

that's note rule 4

[terse falcon]

man i wish i knew how to sprite
i'd love to make a few

[glacial vigil]

Same

My new pokemon wishlist so far

[forest timber]

Wait, Lilligant was added? I probably forgot. Also, Cacturne is a cool addition!

[feral bear]

"tHaTs nOt RuLe 4"

[glacial vigil]

Not added, just ones I want

The top row all got confirmed so far

[forest timber]

Oh okay!

[lean wing]

Isn’t Cresselia a legendary so shouldn’t they go in the bottom row?

[forest timber]

basically waiting for Slurpuff and Combee to be added so I can do a personal run with Altaria/Slurpuff and Tyranitar/Combee

[glacial vigil]

Cresselia is an exception

I want her because I think she is really elegant and pretty, but also because she is the counterpart to Darkrai

I think she also has various fusion potential, but alas, she's not popular

[forest timber]

Most of my faves have low popularity

But at least Trubbish and Toxapex was added in

[glacial vigil]

I can live without any legends being added tbh, but if any would get added, it should be Cresselia imo

[forest timber]

My list from like two months ago

[glacial vigil]

The others are just some I personally like

[silent acorn]

Why cresselia cuz it's the counterpart of Darkrai?

This is the kind of reason why I support standalone legends and mythicals

[feral bear]

I have predicted with GREAT CERTAINTY that the last four picks are the cosmog family soooo theres our legends lol

[silent acorn]

To be honest. I wouldnt mind whatsoever I would just like to use cosmog from early game

[feral bear]

Yea it would be cool if we could have cosmog as like a fun story encounter early on

[cedar merlin]

i wouldn't necessarily mind some more space/planetary themed fusion opportunities tbh

cosmog family probably has the most fusion potenital of the remaining legendaries

[feral bear]

Theyre also veeery popular and if theyre adding necrozma then his box legends are kind of a shoe in

[feral bear]

People love nebby

[gloomy kiln]

I like the 2nd one better but what yall think ?

[neon tusk]

Second one.

[marsh yew]

Lanedo will be a kickass fish ngl

[thin thicket]

Know it's not gonna happen but it be cool

[marsh yew]

Necrozma, Zygarde and Cresselia are the legends I'd like to get

[cedar merlin]

i got my sharpedo wish, so now im just chilling and happy with whatever they give us

[gloomy kiln]

Imagine Zygrade and aegislash fusion

[raw bison]

My personal most desired legendary is Thundurus (therian fooooooorm) but when I consider actual game value I put the XY(Z) legendaries at the top. True rainbow aesthetic, fairy type with legendary stats, red lugia bacon bird

[gloomy kiln]

That would be amazing

[brisk vessel]

I only have one mon I really want and if she gets in I will be happy with anything else

[marsh yew]

I remember the old meme of Zygardifyed 'mons, before Zygarde got actual lore...

Dragalge, Toxicroak, Lilligant, Lurantis... hell, Amoonguss and Shiinotic could be neat!

Flying/Poison "Noibat" looks neat

[honest tartan]

Nobody knows this but Dynamax and Gigantamax are what happens when you can combine pokemon like zygarde does

[proud lion]

Hoping a few bonus mons after the bonus blitz and all the contests would be secretly added in

Like a surprise Amourus line

[honest tartan]

im just hoping amoonguss doesnt get in, and for more ice/fighting/fairy type representation

[obtuse silo]

What is the most boring pokemon in terms of fusion potential to be added?

[polar crown]

I mean, the blitz is adding bonus mons already. Most of the lineup is already set in stone.

[proud lion]

Like even hidden from announcement surprises

[honest tartan]

marshadow

[proud lion]

Watchdog/Yungoose line

[polar crown]

So... you want the Frog to just add Pokemon to the game without telling anyone?

[obtuse silo]

Hm..for me it would be something like audino i think

[prime dust]

I mean he kind of did that already with Trubbish/Garbodor

we only found them thanks to debug

[tidal ridge]

Wym by this? Do they just plan on nuking most Miltank sprites or something

[stone cliff]

I've heard that they've been censoring them, although tbh I haven't heard it directly from anyone of note. Just that some sprites have been changed or removed

Mostly on the subreddit, but I think I've seen people mention it here

[stuck cave]

Skuntank for IF never I guess

[tidal ridge]

As someone who thinks some people take Rule 2 way out of proportion sometimes, I will admit that some Miltank fusions do feel a little out of place lol

[honest tartan]

some people just throw on their "things they like a lot" as rule 2 sometimes soo

[proud lion]

It would be a neat surprise

[polar crown]

I'll suggest it to the Frog.

[brisk vessel]

I hope it's

[tidal ridge]

True that

[honest tartan]

someone made a sprite where lopunny was just giving you an innocent hug, and someone tried to flag it as rule 2

[stuck cave]

If Lopunny and Machoke were non-IF right now do you think they'd block them from being added tbh

[honest tartan]

if they just abandoned the lopunny part and just doubled the ears and turned them into fists then probably

[tidal ridge]

It honestly kind of annoys me how some people lose their shit over the slightest bit of thigh being shown, which like
Why do you think Game Freak designed the base pokemon the way they did

Lopunny is literally based on playboy bunnies, like calm down lol

[honest tartan]

some people cant control themselves when a tiny bit of skin is showing tbh

[tidal ridge]

Obviously fetish sprites shouldn't be allowed but still

[honest tartan]

thats obvious
moving on tho
Thoughts on uhh Wishiwashi

[loud depot]

Fish r cool

[tidal ridge]

Wishiwashi could be a cool pick

Though I have no idea how they could implement the School Form ingame

[stone cliff]

Depends on the day

[obtuse silo]

I would love Wishiwashi

Body fusions would propably a bunch of the head pokemon stuck together to make bigger on

[lethal plaza]

how many more announcements are left?

[proud lion]

3 for Bonus Blitz

[tidal ridge]

Two blitz lines, four community slots, a spriter vote and a raffle pick

So we still have quite a bit to go

[polar crown]

The blitz could be up to... I guess 8, if the frog chose two lines of four (like Cosmog or Rockruff), the community pick is hard capped at 4 (but it could be a mix of lines), and the spriter vote/raffle pick will vary depending on the actual mon picked by them.

(Lycanroc has 3 forms, similar to Oricorio).

[brisk vessel]

I really hope the last 4 are the legendaries since I feel like they're being saved for last so it would make sense

[polar crown]

The game does have a lot of legendaries already though.

[brisk vessel]

(I can't really start getting excited for any of these mons until the legends start getting added)

[brisk vessel]

But we don't have THE Mikumon

[fleet hull]

made a list ya'll dont need to make them anymore just copy this one

[polar crown]

Was it popular? I don't recall how it was doing in the votes (also I wasn't staff at the time of the votes).

[silent acorn]

We had plenty of talk so maybe

Also Miku event going at the time

[polar crown]

Hmmm... but did people associate Miku with Meloetta? That's the question.

[silent acorn]

I want that dark drip on my Miku ripoff ok?

[hazy pine]

@fleet hull I don't think we're getting minior into the game, but at least it not completely forgotten by its fans.

[silent acorn]

It is a musician pokemon, a singular slot one, and has some nice features to her on top of being easily able to go with anything.

[slate gazelle]

[zealous flint]

The fact you ranked gigalith on the same rank as luvdisc is confusing

[fallen loom]

yes, people with taste like Furfrou

I disagree with Rockruff though

[zealous flint]

Mid list bruxish is at the top instead of the bottom

[fleet hull]

Bro you gotta actually read the ranks, like obviously Gigalith is better but I feel both things the mons would provide are done better than others so they go into that tier

[zealous flint]

I know but like gigalith is the best regional rock imo

[dusty arrow]

FUN FACSTS
UNBURDEN WAS DRIFBLIMS SIGNATURE ABILITY IN GEN 4

YEAH IM NOT KIDDING

[silent acorn]

No mon in the game gives you crystal spikes. Golem is very bad

[fallen loom]

it was until salt, though that can't be added

[dusty arrow]

https://gyazo.com/b0e436b5c7995bde4815fb397f894fd2

[zealous flint]

Salt is cool but gigalith cooler

[silent acorn]

Also gigalith is a way better tank design wise and stat wise

[fleet hull]

Thats true but we already got regional rocks already so adding even more aint gonna a help much

[brisk vessel]

Almost everyone went "I can't wait for all the Hatsune Miku fusions"

Not to mention it was the very first partner revealed for the Miku collab (even before the starter types)

[fleet hull]

carbink and diancie could easily provide that niche, and you can easily already do it with steelix by utilizing elements from its mega

[zealous flint]

Bruxish??

I know its not the regional fish but why

[silent acorn]

Ok you got a point there but... Just cuz steelix has that mega you can't use that snake all the time. It's limiting

[fleet hull]

Unique color palette, currently unseen ability + another uncommon ability, also I like it >:^)

[silent acorn]

Like steelix is cool but not perfect for everything

[zealous flint]

I hate bruxishes face

[silent acorn]

I like bruxish cuz it has haters

[brisk vessel]

Funny

It would be hilarious if Bruxish was the final blitz mon

[zealous flint]

No it wouldnt

[white meadow]

It would definitely be entertaining.

[brisk vessel]

I hope golisopod is next

Golisopod or Archeops those are the non mythicals Im rooting for

[fleet hull]

Well yeah that applies to practically every pokemon with a unique design gimmick, but id rather have more mons that do new things then more mons that can do the same thing. And if we do get more for that role I again think carbink/diancie would be better

[white meadow]

I appreciate you

[zealous flint]

I hope tropius releases on a weekend so i can get my tropius/meganium into the gallery asap (id be at school if it releases during the middle of the week)

Anyway my main three mons i want are yveltal, tropius, and gigalith

[stone cliff]

I want my bois Ludicolo, Claydol and Clawitzer

[zealous flint]

I like clawitzer too

[proud lion]

Tsereena Thoughts?

[zealous flint]

Pretty nice but i think we have enough women in the game (i think)

[velvet atlas]

Honestly I kinda want Melmetal, that would make for some awesome fusions

[stone cliff]

Honestly not sure how I feel about it, I feel like it's fairly unique, but "feminine grass type" is something I feel like other mons do better

[silent acorn]

I Wonder does a tropius fan gasp when they learn there is people who either don't care about tropius or are Indifferent to it?

[zealous flint]

no lmao i know how underrated it is

[silent acorn]

Ah ok thats better.

[stone cliff]

I like Tropius but I get it, even playing gen 3 I kept forgetting it was a pokemon

[silent acorn]

I mean there is people who gasp when they hear someone doenst like goodra or noivern

[zealous flint]

Gen 9 has tropius in it

Goodra and noivern are pretty cool but i prefer kommo-o by a lot

[silent acorn]

Tropius wasn't very good on its own Gen lol

[zealous flint]

Tropius is upgraded meganium (by design)

[silent acorn]

Suffered safari zone syndrome

The thing with tropius is thats typying hasnt been attempted as much since it's debut

[stone cliff]

Honestly I prefer Meganium. I can't put my finger on it, but for some reason Tropius feels like a fakemon to me

[zealous flint]

Meganiums design would be so much better if it had the leaf that bayleef had instead of antenne

[silent acorn]

I think it makes up for it with the pretty flower

[stone cliff]

I think the leaf may have made it too busy personally.

[zealous flint]

Wh

[stone cliff]

Maybe if it had a leaf or two below the flower, but otherwise it feels weirdly out of order

[silent acorn]

The thing I don't like with meganium is that's a slow grass tank thats... Well mono Grass isn't very defensive let's say