pif-hoenn-discussion

[oak plover]

Yet you still love Milktank? How tolerant 💕

[sand mica]

If I was the creator of the game I would have put in Skuntank, Grumpig, Mandibuzz, Aromatisse, Amaura, and Gogoat by now.

[iron quartz]

Why couldnt they call it uhh Frogman picks?
:>

[pale osprey]

and then they announced dhelmise, independently

[green vapor]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand this design. The reference is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the design will go over a typical viewer's head.

[rugged temple]

Jokes on you the human body doesn't need that much calcium post infancy anyways, it's literally just a meme made by nutritionists

[oak plover]

Because it is being announced each day, a blitz

[pale osprey]

dhelmise has no comment saying its part or of this bonus blitz, its a vote pick

[muted shoal]

Stufful? That better not make it over Greninja smfh

[iron quartz]

So now 3 spots left....

[sturdy jungle]

I just like the funny steering wheel, you don’t need to be scientific you weird nerd

[prime dust]

its a bonus

[rugged temple]

It's a bonus

[iron quartz]

Did golisopod get revealed or nah btw?

[glacial vigil]

I have arachnophobia and I love Joltik

[prime dust]

also they've already said the starters might get in later due to fan desire for them

[sterile verge]

it is literally a bonus mon

[rugged temple]

Read the announcement channel

[oak plover]

Just a little guy your honor!!

[iron quartz]

I keep forgetting

[prime dust]

so far its just been stufful/bewear and dhel

[silent acorn]

Gonna have to wait until tomorrow

[green vapor]

IF community when a bonus pokémon get added but its not the pokémon they wanted

[iron quartz]

So not yet revealed?

[prime dust]

for bonus picks, rest of the mons are in the pins

[sterile verge]

if it wasn't a part of the bonus blitz, then we'd have another mon get revealed today besides dhelmise

[silent acorn]

True!

[feral bear]

Reading is so fun i love it!!!

[glacial vigil]

You can read?

[green vapor]

when you get a free cookie but its not your favorite flavor

[oak plover]

Me when the information is in front of me 🙈

[sterile verge]

same energy

[silent acorn]

It was kinda obvious to be honest lol

[pale osprey]

to be clear:

1. bear line is one of seven that is part of the bonus blitz
2. dhelmise is not part of the bonus blitz
3. there is an 8th new pokemon that is designer only where votes are weighted by the number of sprites you design

[muted shoal]

I just assume a lot of people avoided starters because of the amount of spots they take. But if there was enough spots for a bonus then we should be free to critique these extra spots if they’re mid af

[feral bear]

Give it up delishis

[iron quartz]

Zeke
Has golissopod been revealed?

[silent acorn]

Yep we get the Spriters to have their own poll for that

[sterile verge]

no dhelmise is

[glacial vigil]

Dhelmise is part of the bonus blizt though

[green vapor]

dont crucify me but starters are boring

[pale osprey]

show me the comment, maybe im reading it wrong. screen shot it

[sand mica]

https://www.deviantart.com/pokesmashbros/art/Afro-Guzzlord-Afromon-963652249

[iron quartz]

Where

[feral bear]

The girls are TROLLING tonight

[pale osprey]

i dont think so

[rugged temple]

Show me a screenshot saying it's not free

[oak plover]

They literally had the teaser for Dhelmise, just like Stufful

[iron quartz]

Hmmmm

[glacial vigil]

All the pokemon recealed for 7 days in a row will be bonus

[prime dust]

scroll up

[sand mica]

Vote for Skuntank!

[silent acorn]

Dhelmise is free

[pale osprey]

screen shot it, i already scrolled up and read it. screenshot so its obvious to all of us

[slate gazelle]

^

[prime dust]

they said that from sat sept 30th til oct 6th, its all bonus mons

[agile olive]

yeah where are you getting that it's not part of blitz, it's one of the daily reveals

[oak plover]

I HATE when we get bonus free things >:((((

[rugged temple]

Cute your sources you clowns unless you're baiting

[pale osprey]

the daily reveal of bonus blitz was the bear duo

[glacial vigil]

That was yesterday

[sterile verge]

ok so:
the bonus blitz reveals 1 pokemon line every day until Oct 6th
dhelmise has been revealed today
there hasnt been any other mons revealed today
they said they wouldn't do reaction reveals for the bonus blitz mon

[agile olive]

no lol that was yesterday

[feral bear]

Reading is so fun and easy i love it so much!!!

[sterile verge]

that was yesterday

[pale osprey]

OH LOL ah ok that makes sense

[rugged temple]

God you people have no information retention

[muted shoal]

I mean if Delibird was inserted as a bonus, we as a community should still be able to say if it’s goofy or not.

[oak plover]

So the key word is daily

[fleet hull]

theres no way yall arent trolling

[rugged temple]

They better be.

[agile olive]

https://tenor.com/view/not-listening-blah-blah-bored-gif-7431117

[pale osprey]

i was out for a few days i didnt see the annoucements were multiple days

[silent acorn]

One guy is unaware that it is bonus blitz until 6th

[green vapor]

The Pokémon I want most right now is Torkoal so this can be real

[feral bear]

Two weeks dungeon

[terse fable]

Arguing over nothing, that's the internet

[rugged temple]

doesn't read announcements first thing

[iron quartz]

Stop.

[oak plover]

Im@sobinng

[sterile verge]

man got the right answer showing the wrong work

[agile olive]

torkoal would be neat, I voted for it, bu tI don't think we're getting it :<

[rugged temple]

Still a better miltank fusion than I normally see

[green vapor]

I feel like hes popular enough? Ash had one and hes solid in comp thanks to drought

[sand mica]

Skuntank and Grumpig need to be added so I can use this!

[silent acorn]

Not baabs is usually a better one

[pale osprey]

well im glad dhelmise is an extra, it was one of my 3s

[fleet hull]

castform tomorrow 🙏

[terse fable]

Need someone to make me a luvdisc/Bruxish sprite so I can slap that bad boi in here

[silent acorn]

Dood if it's castform i swear

[feral bear]

Torkoal was def very popular for a while, its not out of the running for sure! Frog seems to like goofier mons anyway

[glacial vigil]

No, Aurorus D:<

[fleet hull]

Aurorus can be Tuesday

[feral bear]

I would not mind casting and forming tbh

[sterile verge]

i'd be elated if its castform

[pale osprey]

i think the last few will be mythicals / legendaries why he is doing his own "normal mon" group to add variety

[green vapor]

I feel like Dhelmise obliterates the "it has to be popular" argument

[fleet hull]

legendaries as in regirock regice registeel and regigigas2

[glacial vigil]

Bewear already did

[silent acorn]

If dhelmise is limited body then show me what's castforms body

[terse fable]

People like Bewear, at least I thought they did

[fleet hull]

boobie

[glacial vigil]

Most people here mentioned they didn't

[fleet hull]

I did i have good taste

[sterile verge]

there shouldn't be any argument for that since they literally said so in the blitz post lol

[fleet hull]

bewear is the homie

[green vapor]

Watch Volbeat and Illumise make the cut

[terse fable]

Plusle and minun right after

[feral bear]

How tf do you say llumise

[oak plover]

GameFreak was correct giving it the unnerve ability bro is menacing yet adorable

[fleet hull]

I pronounce it "Filth"

[green vapor]

Illuminate misery

[feral bear]

I stg i heard ash himself say "ill ew mew say"

[fleet hull]

Volbeat is the goat though he needs a cooler GF

[green vapor]

illu meesay

illumice is definitely not the right pronounciation

[sterile verge]

illuminate this di||glett||

[terse fable]

Eyelamysaa

[thorny ferry]

day 1: bewear
day 2: dhelmise

it's going in alphabetical order

[green vapor]

day 3 corkoal

[fleet hull]

skuntank would be an absolutely stupid and braindead inclusion that would be nothing but fart jokes, so heres hoping it gets added 🙏

[green vapor]

wait c comes before d doesnt it

[fleet hull]

etorkoal

[oak plover]

day 3: GUNK

[sterile verge]

can't wait till they add just cosmog

[feral bear]

I wish there was a chicken nugget pokemon

[terse fable]

The chicken nugget pokemon is the friends we made along the way

[feral bear]

Im calling it right now the last 4 community picks are gonna be the cosmog line

[sterile verge]

farfetch'd nuggets with a side of sligoo jam

[oak plover]

Torchic is in the game

[feral bear]

Poor torchic 😭

[sterile verge]

im glad pokemon dont exist irl i would not survive

i would keel over eating a cherubi that knows toxic

[thorny ferry]

it isn't, don't be silly || ||

[silent acorn]

I like bewear it's a nice mon

[feral bear]

So gastropod when, I need ALL of these

[honest tartan]

blaziken and moltres are self frying chickens

[feral bear]

Spicy

[sick robin]

let's goooo dhelmise

[alpine rune]

is it fried or grilled?

[honest tartan]

if there is no charcoal and grill it cant be grilled so it has to be fried

[rugged temple]

It's seared

[scenic agate]

LOL making it so each new Pokémon gets a surge of new sprites with the event is so smart

[honest tartan]

Tbf it would have happened anyways

[scenic agate]

maybe

But still smart

[zinc terrace]

Dhelmise + Klinklang, or Dhelmise + Jirachi sounds real fun

[scenic agate]

• Jirachi sounds real fun
  FTFY but great ideas

Jirachi is such a fun Pokémon. The palette + celestial theme, ugh

[zinc terrace]

100% true

You know, I wonder if the Move Expert list is gonna be updated anytime in the future

maybe add a couple new mons to it or something

Maybe some of the missing signature moves, like Aeroblast, or Glaciate

[stiff ember]

THERE IS HOPE FOR SKUNTANK STILL!!!

Excellent news in announcements as always. Unneeded slowmode as always.

[dusty arrow]

honestly, klinklang/scizor is still better

technician boosted stab boosted gear grind

[zinc terrace]

hey, even dhelmise/scizor could be cool if you wanted a bulky curse + gyroball sweeper

(you'd have to not be ghost type though)

[dusty arrow]

oh true i never thought of gyro ball and curse before

[zinc terrace]

But yeah klinklang/scizor is probably the most immediate power

[dusty arrow]

dont forget shift gear to make up for lack of bullet punch priority

[zinc terrace]

the advantage dhelmise/scizor has is that it has access to body press and earthquake

[dusty arrow]

i dont think body press is in this game since thats a gen 8 move

[zinc terrace]

right, forgot about that

i'm still thinking maybe dhelmise/jirachi could work, but it'd have to be some choice specs giganuke thingy

and even then, its probably not the best spatk to work with

wait oh my god. did calcs based on jirachi + dialga (133 spatk) and jirachi + noctowl (92 spatk + steelworker)

252+ SpA Abomasnow Doom Desire vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Abomasnow: 578-684 (150.9 - 178.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Steelworker Abomasnow Doom Desire vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Abomasnow: 674-794 (175.9 - 207.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

dhelmise/jirachi is back on the menu boys, since it has the same spatk as noctowl

[brisk vessel]

Jirachi doesn't run Doom Desire though

It runs Iron Head for Steel STAB

[rugged temple]

Jirachi dhelmise fusion should turn the anchor pure gold and silver

[drowsy drift]

skill issue

[sterile verge]

imagine if moushold got in theoretically

fuse it with a mon that has skill link and give it a choice band

population nuke

[dusty arrow]

no technician is better

pop bomb always hits ten times, just it has 90 accuracy which is why it runs wide lens

[sterile verge]

ah

[drowsy drift]

compoundeyes + kingsrock

[dusty arrow]

galvantula

[sterile verge]

Tinkaton would be down right devious

[dusty arrow]

stinkaton

[sterile verge]

gigaton hammer on a mon with an actual atk stat

[dusty arrow]

just use ursaluna-bloodmoon smh

[drowsy drift]

dhelmise with the steel worker ability

STAB gigaton hammer + steel worker + 100+ attack stat

[dusty arrow]

if mega lucario was in the game it would be better

adaptability + 145 attack + high speed

[drowsy drift]

wouldn't be 145 when fused

[dusty arrow]

yeah but it would be higher than dhelmises attack

[sterile verge]

ahem
Calyrex

[drowsy drift]

fusionStat = 2* bodyStat / 3 + headStat / 3

[dusty arrow]

who?

[brisk vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/pokémon-pokemon-pokemon-swsh-calyrex-spin-gif-27107458

[dusty arrow]

...
who?

[sterile verge]

https://tenor.com/view/weekend-treadmill-steal-evil-smile-stealing-meme-gif-16602461

[dusty arrow]

didnt know they added suleiman the magnificent

[sterile verge]

bro imagine minior
that'd be crazy

[drowsy drift]

imagine dragons

[sterile verge]

the amount of "drampa burning a house down" sprites would be legendary

[old kayak]

LETS GO DHELMISE!!!! really didn't think it would get in but let's goooooo

[old kayak]

Radioactive Demons Enemy Believer

[sterile verge]

realistically no more dragons tho
they wouldn't do an entire event around 3 diff dragon evo lines and then add even more

[hazy pine]

I actually kind of hope kommolo (thats not it name but you know what i mean) gets added, because its currently the only psuedo mon that's not in the game, or at least up to the available generations for the game.

[sterile verge]

unless its like a legendary or smthin

[old kayak]

I'm down for any gen 7 mons added

[sterile verge]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-dracovish-dragon-rush-dragon-gif-12040481121727909614

[drowsy elm]

Komo would be cool

But I want some mons more, such as lycanroc or diancie

[sterile verge]

is there an official reasons they won't do gen 8?

[hazy pine]

Apparntly the engine can't support pokemon generations past seven, for some technically reason that i have no knowledge about to even guess.

[sterile verge]

that doesn't sound real
that sounds like a tired mom telling their child why they cant get ice cream

[drowsy elm]

The version of pokemon essentials used only goes up to gen 7

[sterile verge]

i seeeeeee ee eee

[drowsy elm]

It would take a fuckton of effort to update it, including possibly having to redo the entire fusion system

[sterile verge]

sad noises

[drowsy elm]

so maybe eventually, but not in the forseeable future

[drowsy drift]

pokemon essentials only added gen8 moves/items/abilities/evo methods last year, I believe the version IF heavily modifies is older than that

https://essentialsdocs.fandom.com/wiki/Change_log/v20

[pale osprey]

dev has confirmed he wont do it, this is way too heavily customized to support it

[drowsy drift]

hopefully he backports the overhauled AI code from verison 21 though

[dusty arrow]

the tired mom thing reminds me of nidoqueens rby sprite

[vivid merlin]

when we getting toedscruel, would kill for my boy to be in the game

[dusty arrow]

never

[inland jewel]

When someone creates a sequel or new fusion game

[drowsy drift]

infiniter fusion

[vivid merlin]

noted

[inland jewel]

I know Amalgam has up to gen 8, idk about gen 9

[vivid merlin]

F, such is life, I'll never see my boy without mycelium might on his "own"

[drowsy drift]

there's also the issue of needing to create movesets for any gen8+ pokemon with gen7 rules

7 was the last time every single pokemon had an official moveset list

[wheat carbon]

still no vivillon

ill wait

[dusty arrow]

vivillion? really?

[wheat carbon]

i love vivillon its my fav pokemon

[wheat carbon]

think about it all of the butterfree fusons are cool right?

[dusty arrow]

meh

[drowsy drift]

I know you're being sincere here but I can't help but read it as a joke

[dusty arrow]

but its the devil

[drowsy drift]

can I ask what makes it your favorite? genuinely curious, not looking to make fun of

[wheat carbon]

i love all the different patters

[drowsy drift]

very fair point

[wheat carbon]

and its so pretty

i also think scatterbut is a funny looking cute little guy

and competively its fun to use and actually not that bad

[drowsy drift]

totally forgot it gets friend guard, that's pretty good

[wheat carbon]

also how funny is it that a cute little bug got to be 666

[drowsy drift]

I get it now

[wheat carbon]

ive been playing pokemon sense 1998 and the second i saw this guy i new i had to have him and the tine i spent breeding for a shiny and collecting all the patters he just become my favorite pokemon

so happy his is back in the new games

[drowsy drift]

the gen6 event only form being back as a regular catchable form was pretty cool

[wheat carbon]

yeah and he went strait into my team

[drowsy drift]

nice

[cinder oasis]

Bruh

[wide ridge]

Dhelmise my beloved, you finally get the recognition you deserve

[brisk vessel]

I could probably see Minior being a blitz mon

[sturdy jungle]

Dhelmise is a very underrated mon imo. Never really seen many people who like it

[wide ridge]

it is sad, since once you find out what exactly it is, its SOOO dope!

[cinder oasis]

It also has surprisingly high stats

[sturdy jungle]

I’ve never cared what it’s really based on, I just like the funny steering wheel anchor that gets 3 STAB types pretty much

[cinder oasis]

I really hope torkoal gets in

[toxic dock]

I kinda hope for wishcash an barbroach to get in

[feral fiber]

I like dhelmise but I never expected it to get in lmao

[cinder oasis]

Neither did I, it was just a lucky bonus

[feral fiber]

I just want clawitzer and dragalge to get in

[cold fog]

Y'know something I REALLY wish the devs won't forget? To update this absolute madlad's line in the game. 😄

[drowsy elm]

Heres hoping

[reef pivot]

I will count to that number.

[slate osprey]

Oh snap more new pokemon?

[drowsy drift]

guessing dhelmise will be in the deep diving parts which currently only have gyarados

[inland mason]

Dragapult anyone?

[round matrix]

We need to add Elgyem or roggenrola

[inland mason]

Ehhhhhhhhh. Do we REALLY need elgyem.

[round matrix]

.....no but i like him 👉👈

[inland mason]

That’s reason enough

[cold fog]

Only one reason for Elgyem and Beheeyem: Sick ALIEN fusions. 😄

[round matrix]

BEHEEYEM AND GOLURK FUSION

[inland mason]

As long as I get dragapult and Greninja I’m good

[round matrix]

Greninja and beheeyem

[cold fog]

heeeehhh. It's already dead for Dragapult. Gen 7 is the limit, and Dragapult is gen 8

[jade cape]

starting to feel like pokemon go's release scheme

[inland mason]

Because I want to fuse them so bad

Say it ain’t so😭😭😭

[jade cape]

i'm gonna vote for whoevers next in pokedex order, im a completionist like that

[inland mason]

Okay well Greninja would still be a nice addition

And noivern

[jade cape]

Delphox...

[cold fog]

Good news then. Noivern is already in. (Or it WILL be in the game whenever it updates with all new 'mons)

[inland mason]

YAY

You know what fusion is needed

[jade cape]

chesnaught would be neat too
imagine they'd release all three starters at once tho, it makes sense

[inland mason]

Garbodor Muk

[jade cape]

the Hudson river

[inland mason]

BP oil spill

[jade cape]

my grandma

[chrome maple]

When are new pokemons added in the game?

[drowsy drift]

Soon™️

there's like 3 rapidash dhelmise fusions in the spritework channel right now. I didn't predict it being such a popular combo

[sturdy breach]

Kelpie 🙂

[drowsy drift]

trueee

[cold fog]

Well, first they'll have to announce all new 'Mons that will be added. This part is not over yet. Not until late October at the earliest I think, because of the Bonus Blitz Spriter Award. (And October 20th is the day the contest ends, so of course it won't be on October 20th).

[sharp sphinx]

also the drawing is based on contests winners which can't happen until all the non bonus blitz ones have their contests

[lost dome]

very excited to see fusions with Dhelmise

[sharp sphinx]

ntm the one that's for the trevenant rush which is through halloween

[cyan hare]

Man I woke up and its not q dream. My boy is actually in the game

[drowsy drift]

I didn't know dhelmise had such a strong following until this vote. i honestly forgot it was a pokemon

[mossy finch]

Wooooo it made it

[mossy finch]

The shipwreck and pirate fusions are on the way

[brisk vessel]

shelmise makes for some pretty great head fusions

[native onyx]

had a question while looking through the HoF, do mega-evolved pokemon stay mega-evolved?

[cyan hare]

So which pokemon am I gonna nag for now?

[steep glen]

Hmmm shovel knight fusions

[pure flower]

Gotta say, I'm really happy with how creative the Delmise fusions are getting

I never voted for Delmise, but at the least I can respect the artwork

[drowsy drift]

the ultimate Gyro Ball user is now creatable

[wheat carbon]

What?

[cyan hare]

IVE CHANGED MY MIND

WE ARE STANNING NECROZMA'

[cold fog]

Power Trick Gyro Ball Shuckle+Dhelmise drools

[agile olive]

mega evo isn't in the game, but many self fusions look like megas

[zenith relic]

https://pa1.aminoapps.com/5720/22527f909db89cd351dc4bc1e82d1cfa4f93df27_00.gif

[shut carbon]

i just saw the new picture for the server, are we getting tyrantrum and sharpedo??

[zenith relic]

Yes

[drowsy drift]

correct. check #announcements for all the announced pokemon so far

[shut carbon]

thanks homie

[drowsy drift]

👍

[tough grotto]

Whoever does this one better do it justice 🙂

[drowsy drift]

look though #1050404143807873157

[nocturne otter]

would dehmise + hitmontop be a beyblade

[drowsy drift]

https://if.daena.me/237.329/

[nocturne otter]

k e k

[cinder oasis]

Vivillion being your number 1 pokemon is crazy

[gilded stone]

i will play the game again if samurott is in

[cinder oasis]

In like a year I guess then

[gilded stone]

[wheat carbon]

Every Pokémon is someone’s # 1

[wheat carbon]

And vivillon isn’t crazy it has its specialty and everything

[sterile spoke]

Very pillowshaded, though. 😛

[brisk vessel]

how

[sterile spoke]

Overshaded is perhaps the better term, but yes. 😅

[brisk vessel]

i just stole all the colors from one of the dhelmise bases in #assets-gallery but fair enough

[sterile spoke]

Colours have nothing to do with shading. 😛

[brisk vessel]

tbf i think the base was also overshaded

[sterile spoke]

The base doesn't really have an overshading issue at all. 😮

[tame flax]

well

[brisk vessel]

idk i just used the colors that were on the base

[tame flax]

looks like i was right about there being more bonus mons

[sterile spoke]

And again, colours =/= shading. I'm saying it's overshaded, not that the colours are wrong. 😛

[brisk vessel]

mmk

[tame flax]

cant wait for necrozma and pallosand

[surreal chasm]

So far only 23% of the Dhelmise fusions posted to the gallery are body fusions

[sterile spoke]

Who saw that coming? 😅

[brisk vessel]

i can definitely see Palossand being a blitz mon

[surreal chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-give-me-hope-dont-what-hawk-eye-black-widow-gif-15368548

[brisk vessel]

im on hopium i just really want the funny singer lady to get in

[tame flax]

its possible

[brisk vessel]

i will spread the hopium with others if it means getting them on board with me

[tame flax]

who knows, literally every single other time they said no more bonus mons they gave us more bonus mons, and i think this week ought to serve as definitive proof of that now, so if not this week, perhaps after the last slots are revealed

[brisk vessel]

im pretty sure the blitz is our last hurrah so we end on like 460 or 470 depending on the lines that get added

[olive dagger]

So if I'm understanding right, we will be getting five more bonus blitz reveals, a spriters pick, and the final 4 winners? so there should be at least 8 families of pokemon forthcoming

[tame flax]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-john-cena-are-you-sure-gif-5783187

when someone says no more bonus mons like 4 times and adds more, can you really take their word after the fifth?

[brisk vessel]

idk its good to hope but that might be too much hopium for my body to handle

but i'll do whatever it takes to get my one and only added

[tame flax]

its not a matter of hope, its a matter of not being able to believe there will be no more when theyve said that multiple times now

[brisk vessel]

blows you up with my mind

[tame flax]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i should not have been the only one to see something like this coming

[olive dagger]

yknow i'm surprised there haven't been any pikaclones added yet. i know they're not usually that popular and of course we've got the og pichu-pikachu-raichu line, but i think either pachirisu or emolga would make for some pleasant looking fusions :0

[tame flax]

togedemaru would be neat

[cold fog]

Togedemaru or Emolga would be the most interesting of the Pikaclones to be added, IMO. The others? Meeeehhhhh.

[tame flax]

imagine how cringe itd be if plusle and minun got in

[olive dagger]

for me i think emolga is #1, pachirisu is #2 purely for the color scheme, dedenne probably ranks above togedemaru just for the fairy typing, and plusminus definitely are at the bottom rung

[cold fog]

True. Plusle and Minun whole schtick is the polarity, which is already covered by Magnemite line.

[south basin]

I see whoever wanted dhelmise got their wished granted, im looking forward to the pirate designs because you know that will happen for quite a few pokemon lol

[olive dagger]

To be fair, every Pikaclone's schtick is already basically covered by... well, Pikachu lol

[cold fog]

true that.

but Plusle and Minun are even WORSE somehow. Other Pikaclones are other rodents. Plusle and Minun are.... Electric mice, lol.

[tame flax]

i am curious as to how these bonuses are picked though

are they just mons frog wanted in, or are they mons who placed below the 20th place threshold?

[south basin]

Dunno, im just hopeing for either lilligant or petilil lines. Regardless if those don't get in im at least content with altaria and bewear lines

[cold fog]

..... those 2 'mons are.... the same line, lol. You REALLY want Lilligant in the game, huh? (I do too, don't worry 😛 )

[south basin]

I meant tsareena instead of petilil, it's 5am and im working off 4 hours sleep again due to my insomnia lol

[woven maple]

Watch as the last addition to the blitz week are the gen 5 starter chains.

And everyone makes 9 sprites to get that voting power

[silver shadow]

Honestly i want dondozo and tatugiri then ill be happy

[tame flax]

gen 5? werent they the least popular of the starters?

[woven maple]

Pretty sure the base pokemon stuff they use is only up to gen 7

[south basin]

Fuse them for the ultimate brains/brawn combo

[silver shadow]

i believe so but i can dream

[woven maple]

Did we ever see the poll results for the starters before they were removed?

[south basin]

I want tinkaton for the giant hammer and cute potential in fusions but im pretty sure someone said the game would only have up to gen 7 selections

[tame flax]

yes, specifically them

[thorny ferry]

This isn't a matter of dreaming, they straight up aren't in the poll

[tame flax]

i think it was 6, 7, 5

[olive dagger]

they're next in line tho, since gens 1-4 starters are in already... tbh if they do add another starter set i think gen 7's would get the most hype

[woven maple]

Oh, anyone got a link?

[tame flax]

pins

[south basin]

I want fennekin and popplio

[tame flax]

greninja really carrying those gen 6 votes

[silver shadow]

gimmie decidueye and i can only imagine some of the slazzle or shiinotic fusions

[south basin]

Greninja fused with poliwrath or politoed: A poliwrath/politoed poorly cosplaying a ninja

[tame flax]

gen 6 was the most popular of the 3 in the vote

[south basin]

Alolan vulpix would be nice, they did add support for actual alternate forms after all and other typed pokemon/regional variants would be neat for fusions

[silver shadow]

fusion the regionals with the originals would be so cool

[south basin]

Indeed. Imagine mixing a alolan and kanto vulpix for a fire ice type one lol

Or a fire fairy ninetails when they evolve

[lapis gate]

It's not that they don't wanna, it's something about them not being able to. Pretty sure it's pinned in one of the channels but don't remember which

[marsh silo]

I will not elaborate further

[silver shadow]

yes

^^^^ This wins

[south basin]

Unfornunate since gen 8 and 9 have some pokemon evolutions for ones that needed them to be better all around

Yeah gen 8 sucked but pokemon like sir fetched at least made farfetched useful

[tame flax]

it was too bri'ish

[olive dagger]

truly i want EVERY ultra beast in here. i think the ones i'd be most excited to actually use are nihilego, pheremosa, buzzwole and blacephalon, but all of them are incredible and would make great fusion fodder

[south basin]

Farafarig could make some neat fusions too and make girafarig fused with stuff useful if it evolved lol

[lapis gate]

You can make surfetch'd, just slap a png of it in the battlers folder as the farfetch'd farfetch'd fusion, ez 4Head

[marsh silo]

having the ultrabeasts to fuse with would go hard tbh

Imagine fusing the so unorganic and mechanical designs of ultrabeasts with normal pokemon

[south basin]

Won't have the right stats or typing let alone farfetched itself is weak. main reason if got a evolution, it just sucked by default

[lapis gate]

No need to bully the bird, he's trying his bes

[marsh silo]

or maybe mewtwo with naganadel having the brain (yes, the "thorax" is the brain) on the head with a massive stinger tail

[south basin]

Pheremosa/buzzwole, not sure what that would make but im guessing a buff pheremosa that didn't skip leg day

[lapis gate]

His best might not be enough but he's trying damn it

[south basin]

lol

[silver shadow]

mewtwo and necrozma would be sick

[marsh silo]

that would go hard, yeah

[silver shadow]

and EVERY LUNALA FUSION

[marsh silo]

specially with the necrozma body being a dragon skull

[south basin]

Necrozma anything would be neat if it follows the way it fused in the ultra sun and moon games. I imagine with mewtwo it would look like a cooler armored mewtwo

[marsh silo]

Something that I think would go hard too would be type: null and silvally

[cold fog]

I'd just like to see the Regis so that Regigigas doesn't stay alone in the game. Very sad to be alone D:

[marsh silo]

The regis need to be in the game

[south basin]

Silvally and arceus. It finally completed it's journey to become god and wants everyone else to know that fact

[marsh silo]

I want a triple fusion of the og regis

[silver shadow]

i would like to see them all fused together though limiting it to just two feels like a waste

[south basin]

Triple fusion with the og regi's leads to regigigas would be hilarious and disappointing

[silver shadow]

you right

[lapis gate]

Ngl, the spriters can do some fun, but i feel like you don't really need more than one. I'd rather have almost anything else than a block of ice with hands added

[olive dagger]

hmm since the system only goes up to gen 7... does that include Meltan and Melmetal? cause they'd be fun (although we have a good few slimes already so wouldn't mind missing out on them)

[south basin]

To be fair, logically speaking they could possibly fuse together without DNA splicers or 'normal' methods. They are literally golems, who says someone like regigigas who has the know how couldn't take them apart and mix them together after discovering pokemon fusion is a thing?

It's in regigagas lore that it likes to create after all. Imagine seeing regi fusions would inspire it in a picaso way lol

[marsh silo]

Now, for pokémon I would genuinely want to do fusions with. Toxel and Toxtricity, specially Toxtricity. because Duskull + Toxtricity could be based on a death metal singer

[tame flax]

yes, they were in the poll

[silver shadow]

be a really cool way to see some mecha versions of pokemon

[south basin]

Gardevoir + Melmetal = The T-1000 from terminator

[silver shadow]

Melmetal and wailord = BattleCruiser hahaha

[lapis gate]

We need more freaky little weirdos like beheeyem
Big ass head trench coat wearing ass looking like it ate a tentacool but couldn't swallow so it's stuck in its mouth

[south basin]

Shoot, maybe lucario melmetal makes the T-1000 reference but the gardevoir + melmetal makes a metroid reference by giving gardevoir armor that looks like a mix of melmetal and the chozo power suit?

[lapis gate]

Btw the next little freak should be announced in like what, 8 and a half hours? Or do they not come out at the same time everyday?

[silver shadow]

real talk thoug, no idea how they would do it but we need megas in this game

[olive dagger]

self fusions

[silver shadow]

thats the end product i wanna fuse the megas with stuff

[gusty shuttle]

Pidove would be beneficial to the game
Well, at least to my game

[marsh silo]

Every pixel artist reading this had a cold sweat

[silver shadow]

it would be soo much work

[brisk vessel]

Tbf there are already like thousands of sprites that use Mega bases

Now Eternatus
That would be hilarious

[mossy finch]

Anyone thought of any dhelmise fusions yet

[brisk vessel]

There's hundreds already

[silver shadow]

Eternatus and wailord would never fit on the screen haha

[craggy lynx]

I can already imagine how much of a pain in the ass it would be to make Eternatus fusions

[mossy finch]

i havent looked at spritework im an idiot

[marsh silo]

Yeah but think about this: if we added the mega mechanic, first of all, how would it work, only fusions with 2 mega capable pokémon can megaevolve? does only 1 part megaevolve? You basically added like 3 more sprites into the equation

[brisk vessel]

If i can I will make Eternatus fusions because it has already been proven possible

[marsh silo]

no.

[high haven]

I gotta say Ultra Necrozma & both Eternatus forms have got to be the most over the top Pokémon designs period

[brisk vessel]

(at least when Eternatus is the head)

[marsh silo]

White and Black Kyurem

[mossy finch]

THis is why i wanted my ghostly anchor friend. thats soo coool

[silver shadow]

i didnt even think of combining them two that would be sick !!!

[marsh silo]

I effin hate white kyurem

[silver shadow]

how does kyurem work in this can you fuse them with the other legendaries as per base game then use White/black kyrem to fuse with again ?

[high haven]

Damn, this is really good

[marsh silo]

I mean, just like the other fusions, just that if you fuse it with zekrom or reshiram you get the black or white variant sprites as a nod

(and to work less but we don't talk about it )

[subtle flame]

Dhelmise is in the game... I won in life

[marsh silo]

Achsually, it's not yet in the game 🤓

[high haven]

I still have 5 days to see if Seviper ends up joining

[marsh yew]

The Fusion trio should have dominant types IMO;|| the Reshiram/Zekrom fusion you fight having the same type as Zekrom is kinda off, IMO it being Electric/Fire would be more appropiate.||

[marsh silo]

Anyway, I want Chatot and Exploud in the game, not because of potential cool fusions, I just really like those two. :^)

[subtle flame]

Shush, it's already in the game for me

[brisk vessel]

That's a nice argument
Unfortunately

[silver shadow]

i just think it would be cool if you could get the white/black kyrem then fuse them to finish the first dragon haha

[marsh silo]

TOTSUGE-

[high haven]

I just thought for like a teaser image for the possible reveal of Zangoose & Seviper they just put the box art of Scarlet & Violet and nothing else

[marsh silo]

why tho

[brisk vessel]

I didn't want to make May Guilty Gear so my Dhelmise is just Treasure Knight from Shovel Knight

[alpine rune]

DAMN

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/grumpig-pig-happy-bouncing-anime-gif-11003947071816019780

[olive dagger]

here's my First and Second tiers of most wanteds, basically any of these would be wellcool for me

not within any particular order within the tiers

[short garden]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-brother-true-smoke-gif-23157983

[brisk vessel]

I can agree with this

[short garden]

musharna, aromatisse, drampa, audino, maractus, etc

[sharp nebula]

meloetta is at the top of course

[alpine rune]

If meloetta comes into the game I'm going ham with Touhou fusions

[olive dagger]

not for me, i do like her for fusion material but i think my #1 of them all is prrrobably between swirlix and sandygast?

[high haven]

Happy to see my boy on there

[marsh silo]

no, just, no.

[brisk vessel]

Darkrai/Meloetta and it's just BAD APPLE

[marsh silo]

I love Spoink but Grumpig is plain stupid

[short garden]

fusion

[alpine rune]

You go do that, I want to make the drum waifu

[marsh silo]

no

[brisk vessel]

It will be funny

[olive dagger]

grumpig is half baked, i do quite love spoink tho

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/play-ddc-smile-smile-touhou-raiko-horikawa-dreadsoul-gif-27173497

[brisk vessel]

A big black silhouette of Darkrai with a white silhouette of Meloetta in the middle

[marsh silo]

But something I'm happy to be informed of, Bellibolt is impossible to be added into the game. Yes. keep that thing deep into the abyss where it deserves

[high haven]

Out of all of the mons being added so far we have no new Steel types, Ground types or Psychic types joining

[sterile spoke]

I don't think we're getting every Ultra Beast. I think we'll be lucky to see one, let alone much more than that. 😮

[olive dagger]

agreed, but i didn't say i think every ultra beast will be added! just that i want all of them. or i guess you could say, i'd be pleased with any of them!

[high haven]

What are some cool or strange teaser image ideas you guys have?

[sterile spoke]

I think the Ultra Beasts are honestly my least favourite collection of Pokémon. 😦

Making sprites for all of them would be a special kind of hell. 😢

[south basin]

Same, except for pheramosa and buzzwole. I like those two

[olive dagger]

I can understand that, they're very different from what Pokemon tend to be. I'm just a weird girl who loves freaks

Like the amount of them without visible faces makes me squee lmao

[sharp nebula]

theyre probably one of my favourites, the only one i dont like is buzzwole

[sterile spoke]

They'd be two of the best, yeah. I'd also be fine with Naganadel, and to a lesser extent, Nihilego. 🙂

Though we have too many Dragon-types getting added as is, which is a point against Naganadel. 😢

[south basin]

Buzz swole

[high haven]

Yeah..yeah

[alpine rune]

Xurkitree T-Pose Base

[gusty shuttle]

Buzz whole deez nuts

[olive dagger]

Pa'u Oricorio is Psychic, right?

[south basin]

Slugma.
If you know you know

[gusty shuttle]

Slugma what

[high haven]

Is it? I thought it was Fairy

[south basin]

Slugma is a crappy pokemon, what did you think I would say?~

[gusty shuttle]

Slugma is a great pokémon

[clever atlas]

Steel, Ground and fairy types are missing

[olive dagger]

i think that does mean we haven't seen any new fairy types yet, which would be really good for game balance tbh

[south basin]

Speaking of slugma.. magcargo is apparently as hot as the the sun so do kalos natives eat it as a delicacy or not?

[high haven]

Qh, well than we don't have any new fairies yet instead of Psychic types

[gusty shuttle]

You're hotter than the sun <3

[olive dagger]

swirlix gang rise up

[sterile spoke]

Magcargo makes for fantastic fusion material, honestly. 🙂

[south basin]

I mean, it's a snail. Fuse it with goodra for fire type hisuian goodra lol

[olive dagger]

magcargo is my favorite gen 2 pokemon and mine is currently fused with nidoqueen :3

[high haven]

Oh yeah I don't think I've seen this thrown out there, but what mon do you want to see most in the game?

[gusty shuttle]

Fuse it with goodra so goodra can finally die melting

[south basin]

Speaking of which, goodra made it so did hisuian make it too? I can't remember and don't feel like hunting for the announcment post

[gusty shuttle]

Hot queen

[sterile spoke]

Right now, Ribombee and Manectric. 🙂

Manectric's almost definitely not getting in, but Ribombee stands some semblance of a chance. 😄

Toxicroak's pretty high on my list too, and so is Pangoro, though Bewear kind of scuppers Pangoro's chances. 😦

[south basin]

Misdreavius is my favorite gen 2 pokemon. Just wish it fused better with some of my other favorites in the game

[gusty shuttle]

Pidove's beating all that I'm sure

[high haven]

Fair enough.

[alpine rune]

I'm predicting tomorrow is going to be golisopod (trust)

[south basin]

He already made it didn't he?

[sterile spoke]

If Pidove gets in during this wave, I will permanently change my username to Quablaza, Famed Idiot. 😛

[alpine rune]

no?

[high haven]

Not yet

[south basin]

I could fo sworn it did

[gusty shuttle]

Oh god
Please toad please

[south basin]

One sec, guess im looking though the announcment posts anyways

Not sure if it's my sleep deprivation but I could fo sworn golisopod already got announced

[gusty shuttle]

It's your sleep deprivation

[alpine rune]

Yea, Golisopod got confirmed in my dreams as well

[high haven]

Don't need to, just check the pins in this channel to see who's in or not

[marsh silo]

Yeah, having all the ultra beasts would be too much, still cool to see tho

[civic harness]

Well... another day, another reveal?

[high haven]

That's the case, yeah

[marsh silo]

I would love buzzwole in the game, another excuse to make buff pokemon.

[south basin]

Huh, guess I mixed up scolipede then. Unfortunate, golisopod could of put machamp fusions to shame lol

Well, at least theres frosslass. One of my favorite ghost ypes

[civic harness]

I wonder what will come next

[marsh silo]

Me: Pwease, give me chatot, I love my silly little bird

[south basin]

Man, I remember gen 4 chatter in the og games. That was fun

[honest tartan]

If we get chatot can we get our pokemon to yell slurs at trainers and other pokemon?

[alpine rune]

I wanna know what happens if you fuse buzzwole with machamp

[high haven]

I don't know about you, but I'm really hoping for Seviper.

[alpine rune]

Yo dud same

[marsh silo]

More buff

[honest tartan]

It turns blue

[south basin]

Omega swole. Muscles so large you could cut a watermelon on them

[civic harness]

How many reveals are left? In addition to these 5 that will be there day after day

[sharp nebula]

this would be the only thing that would get me to want chatot

[alpine rune]

yea day by day but who knows how many left tbh

[gusty shuttle]

You can cut a watermelon on any muscle, you just have to be patient and willing to lose a lot of blood

[high haven]

Aside from the 5 Blitz days, there are 4 slots remaining

[south basin]

Pfft, how about this then? Buzzwole+machamp = machamp becoming a jojo reference with buzzwole a stand behind it

[tame flax]

We have jojo machamp at home

[civic harness]

So I could say more than 5 more revelations, 7 if they are 2 and 2 or 1 and 3

[marsh silo]

JoJo mentioned

[south basin]

Is that a jojo reference?

[marsh silo]

no, obviously

[south basin]

It's so menacing

[high haven]

When I say 4 slots I mean 4 individual mons, so if a 2 stage line were added they would take up 2 slots

I may have misunderstood what you just said

[civic harness]

Exactly, thats why I said 2 and 2, but then there are the slots of 3 and a sot of a single pokemon

[high haven]

Okay I did misunderstand what you said

[civic harness]

And a slot of 4, so...
More than 5 reveals

[south basin]

I reveal my trap card.
It was mr sir. Run.

[honest tartan]

Man we need more eldritch horror pokemon to fight the evil children invading PIF

[high haven]

What do they think this is? A children's game?

[south basin]

I love me some good world eating cosmic entities or eldritch horrors

Wait.. goodra + ditto = tsathoggua reference

Or formless spawn. Both work

[runic flame]

Hi guys I've already seen a beautiful fusion with Bewear, whoever put this Pokemon is great, the fusions with this Pokemon are too cute

[high haven]

Thank the almighty frog man

[south basin]

Bewear + mimikyu = A bewear that's falling apart at the seams. Literally.

Zombie plushie

Shoot, bewear and banette work too

[alpine rune]

Not sure if i want a badass Bewear fusion or a cute bewear fusion

[high haven]

Why not both?

[south basin]

Bewear looks cute but thing can break almost any bone in the human body in seconds like a frickin terminator

Im going to be so disappointed if fusing bewear with kilink or magnemite don't make a termiantor reference lol

[lofty spindle]

There is a Cassette Beasts monster like that, may be a possible rference.

[marsh silo]

haur haur haur haur...

[south basin]

Bewear, the robots are coming

[high haven]

What Mon would be perfect to fuse with Seviper to get Rattlesnake Jake?

[marsh silo]

Murkrow/Honchkrow

[high haven]

Ooh good call

[covert tiger]

would like to add Bergmite Pumpkaboo Clauncher Binacle Elgyem Tynamo Timburr Hippopotas Bronzor Claydol Cacnea Linoone Seedot Pikipek Surskit any one of them will be cool

[sterile spoke]

I don't think many of those are likely, sorry. 😦

[sharp nebula]

claydol maybe

[high haven]

When ever I see a long list of pokemon names one after the other, I read it like the Pokérap

[south basin]

Man, the pokerap was my childhood

[alpine rune]

Just add the whole gen 3 dex while youre at it

[terse fable]

I did the same thing reading that list 😂

[high haven]

I'm down with that

[cyan hare]

Now stanning necrozmaaaaa

[sterile spoke]

[sharp nebula]

necrozma is a good value pick, because its pretty much 2 pokemon for the price of one

[silk narwhal]

There's a third one

[alpine rune]

I require lasagna jon

[silk narwhal]

This is the alt

[high haven]

Beautiful

[silk narwhal]

Ikr

[mystic rivet]

Wouldn't mind a setting to disable joke sprites in the game

[silk narwhal]

Yeah that's called "choosing the main sprite"

[marsh silo]

magnificent

[silk narwhal]

Indeed

[marsh silo]

Now I'm in the mood of doing a gorefield sprite, but I gotta do the octobit challenge first

[silk narwhal]

gorefield
Hell naw

[marsh silo]

Sorry that Lumpy is one of my biggest inspirations

[silk narwhal]

Ok if it's lumpy its fine

He's so based

[marsh silo]

Anyway. Mods? Can you put Chatot in the game? K, thnks.

[silk narwhal]

He's in the server too

Or at least he was

[high haven]

He made a few sprites with this being one of them

[silk narwhal]

Holy fucking shit

[marsh silo]

His style is just so heckin' cool

[frigid anvil]

The amount is detail is stunning

[silk narwhal]

He's insane

[sterile spoke]

It is, but it's not the BW style. 😛

[marsh silo]

anyway, should I do a cursed persian/mr.mime?

[silk narwhal]

How does it have just 20 ish colors

[frigid anvil]

So true

[silk narwhal]

BW style is overrated

[high haven]

Now is that so bad?

[sterile spoke]

Considering we're a DS-styled game that is at least vaguely aiming to have consistency with sprites, yes. 😂

[sterile spoke]

You continue to be unbased. 😅

[silk narwhal]

Thanks, you too

[frigid anvil]

Most based evolution line

[marsh silo]

Blaq? Can you add chatot in the game? k thanks

[high haven]

I have to respectfully disagree with your given opinion

[frigid anvil]

Dawg really wants chatot

[marsh silo]

no joke, my favourite flying type

[frigid anvil]

I'm happy with anything in the game at this point tbh

[marsh silo]

honestly same, except Bellibolt

[frigid anvil]

Well gen 9 isn't an option

[marsh silo]

good.

[high haven]

I only want one Mon, I'm happy with everything else

[frigid anvil]

There's 1 I moderately want but that's it

[sullen elbow]

Luvdisc right?

[marsh silo]

Thinking about it, Furfrou with the styles could go hard for fusions

[dense inlet]

with the recording feature right?

[frigid anvil]

Cause Victini is my favorite mythical so thatd be cool to see in the game, but I'm not gonna get mad about other reveals lmao

[marsh silo]

Yes, so I can make my chatot fusions scream: AMONG US

[high haven]

https://tenor.com/view/doctorwho-how-do-you-know-gif-5915112

[frigid anvil]

Luvdisc/alomamola fusion

[sterile spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[sterile spoke]

In my one instance of gatekeeping, that doesn't mean much considering you're not a spriter. Stylistic consistency is really important for the purposes of making things look like they come from the same game. 😛

[spice sage]

Hmm tempting 🤔

[terse fable]

Feels weird to defend what you're defending, so to keep an artistic style we need to make worse sprites? Doesn't make much sense to me, that's why people make alts, and that sprite would be a fine alt

[sterile spoke]

No, because BW sprites aren't bad. It's a different style. A more extreme instance would be making, for example, a Gen II sprite a main. It's very clearly going to stand out from the Gen V-styled ones. 😮

[agile olive]

[sterile spoke]

It would be a fine alt, yeah. As a main though, the stylistic inconsistencies are worth bringing up. 🙂

[terse fable]

Okay well that makes more sense to me, and yea I agree it should be an alt not a main, I understand what you're saying now and agree

[high haven]

You know what that's fair enough, but I still don't necessarily have to agree with you on this. Because as you said: I'm not a spriter, so it doesn't really matter all too much

[violet pawn]

I agree completely

[frigid anvil]

Making a genuine argument and not just screaming at people is something I don't see too often on discord lmao

[terse fable]

It's a rare occurrence for sure lol

[prime dust]

do you need someone to scream pointlessly for it to be normal?

[sharp nebula]

i can definitely do that

[frigid anvil]

Nah I've just adapted to toxic ass servers it's unusual to see people not being psychopaths

[sharp nebula]

heres one anyway

[prime dust]

everyone is crazy, the difference is the level of crazy

[high haven]

I mean there was nothing to scream about. He's got a really good point there so it's hard to really defend against it.

[frigid anvil]

True

[frigid anvil]

In a server where anyone states an opinion and gets bombarded with "Kys"

[high haven]

Even with the spats we have, I never got the feeling of toxicity. Just felt like people discussing they're own point of view while respecting the others opinion.

[prime dust]

it gets a bit heated every now and then, but yeah I don't really see "toxic" stuff

[frigid anvil]

Awesome tame server

[sharp nebula]

ngl some of the releases have brought out some very... angry stuff shall we say

[robust roost]

I just want necrozma ngl

[silent acorn]

Can't agree on everything. After a while of letting salt out everything goes back to normal usually

Also you try to bring up why you don't like something and someone is already like "OH YOU MAD BLUD?! SHUP UP AND ENJOY IT". Even though it's just talking about the mon itself.

[ruby breach]

surely salazzle today

[high haven]

Could be anyone

Cause at this point it's all frog picks

[violet pawn]

there are 4 community picks left too

[high haven]

That too

At this point I'll take a few fairies as well as mah boi

[terse fable]

Kinda want slurpuff

[proud lion]

Even if Pokémon don’t get chosen, it doesnt mean they can’t be fused via Non-IF. It can be just for fun

[graceful torrent]

Bewear is normal/fighting right?

[dull summit]

I just realized that fusions of the Nacli line and the Porygon line would be salty gamers.

[terse fable]

Drapion, Slurpuff, Guzzlord and Hawlucha are my mains for fusion potential, Ludicolo line and Regi's are just mons I want cause it feels weird they're not in the game already, but honestly I'm happy with whoever, give me luvdisc, fuck it

Oh and Drampa for old grandpa/grandma mons 👵

[high haven]

Maractus, Sawk & Throh, Celesteela, Heatmor
Mienshao, Cryogonal, Bronzong, Seviper!
These are my top pick for the game

[terse fable]

Almost no one around here likes Sawk and Throh and it's so sad, like we can have Kermit in a Gi

[prime dust]

its hard to explain why people dislike them

[lofty spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/ribombee-pokemon-fairy-cute-gif-22197024

[high haven]

Bewear/Tangrowth makes the Blob from FNaF:SB

[prime dust]

best I can maybe come up with is that unlike a lot of the other mons that are just pure fighting type, they lack movement

[lofty spindle]

Imagine, Ribombee/Machamp for a ripped-bombee.

Personally I'd dislike Sawk and Throh because they are single-stages.
I dislike using single stages since their progression is very satic, a lack of movement in a different way.

[prime dust]

pretty much every other fighting mon has something that makes them stand out, but sawk and throh don't...outside of the outfits they feel so stationary so there isn't much that draws attention to them

[prime dust]

and yet until Tyrogue became a thing, so were Himonchan and Hitmonlee, yet people enjoyed them

[high haven]

My brother thought of a lot of Sawk fusions for the closest we can get to normal human fusions and after a while they grew on me

[lofty spindle]

This suggests I am not in the majority, but I can at least attest to my consistency,
since I am only interested in them due to their pre evo.

[prime dust]

fair

[terse fable]

I've seen people saying the design for Sawk and Throh is weak, and I can kind of agree with that, but it's not any weaker then like Meloetta or any other human-like mon that people are foaming at the mouth for so I dunno, I think Muppet mons would be interesting

[prime dust]

ok the Meloetta argument in the game is more for music/dance inspiration

[dull summit]

Hitmonlee at least has a weird head body.

[prime dust]

we never said he was perfect, let him be the weird head body mon

[terse fable]

I guess, but if we're talking about dancing and music mons it's Ludicolo all the way lol

[dull summit]

I'm saying that's what makes him good.

[high haven]

In my opinion Mienfoo & Mienshao would be the coolest fighting type to add to the game. But what do you guys think?

[prime dust]

outside of the timbur line, yeah

[solar crystal]

Have you seen the dugtrio and onix combo? It hurts my soul

[hexed agate]

No more fighting types please

[high haven]

Why not?

[prime dust]

you do realize they are some of the lowest slots of mon typings?

[hexed agate]

We're over the official game's ratio for fighting types and we just got one

[terse fable]

Let me guess, you want dragons huh

[prime dust]

bewear doesn't count...he's too fluffy

[hexed agate]

Fuck no

[solar crystal]

Idk who designed the spirit tomb fusions but that mans went all out on every single one

[hexed agate]

Cacturne has to be a top pick for me

[prime dust]

Im fine with that

[solar crystal]

Out of curiosity has anyone ever tried to download pokemon fusion on their phone?

[terse fable]

Still want more fighting types, but yea Cacturne is a good option as well

[prime dust]

wrong channel to ask

[terse fable]

#general

[hexed agate]

I want more fighting types as well, but I also want type variety

[solar crystal]

Gotcha thanks

[hexed agate]

Something like Vespiquen would slap though

[cold fog]

I know it's not a popular choice, but I really would like to see Furfrou. That sweet sweet Fur Coat ability, and all them Hair Trims would make for great fusions across all Pokémon.
Also, Hairy versions of Pokémon, what's not to love?

[terse fable]

I'm more worried about type representation, I can understand ice being low, but at least one or 2 more fighting lines would give good options to mix things up for that type coverage

[high haven]

Agreed

[hexed agate]

Gen 5 has all the fighting types

Crabominable would be cool though

[high haven]

Gen 5 has the best fighting types to me. All of them are so cool looking I love them

[hollow cosmos]

Steelworker hype

[prime dust]

its fighting, fairy, ice and....what was the other low count type?

[clever atlas]

Yall ready for lycanroc reveal today?

[terse fable]

That being said though, Bewear was a pretty big W and I'll be happy with whatever mons we get, just think one or 2 more fighting lines, maybe another ice type like aurorus and we'd be looking pretty good, there's mons I'd prefer for fusion potential specifically as well, there's a lot I'll be happy with basically lol

[clever atlas]

Dark

[hexed agate]

Relicanth or bust

Also I thought rock was low?

Gigalith would be gaming

[cold fog]

35 rock types in IF. Mostly thanks to the numerous rock/ground types

[clever atlas]

Rock is okay with representation

[cold fog]

Something kinda surprising is the fact there's only 28 Electric types in IF

[clever atlas]

Eelektross time

[cold fog]

That I would LOVE. Eelektross is my all time favorite Pokémon.

[clever atlas]

Yeah im surprised I've seen barely any eelektross support too

[lofty spindle]

I'd be down, ready for the Ribombee reveal tomorrow?

[high haven]

God like every Gen 5 Mon slaps.

[clever atlas]

Basculin:

[cold fog]

except the Elemental Monkeys

[high haven]

The vast majority of Gen 5 slaps

[jade night]

Lumineon gang rise up

[cold fog]

Now I can get behind that statement.

[clever atlas]

Yeah lumineon is nice too
Weak but pretty

[high haven]

Stats don't matter, looks do

[fast ruin]

Fusing Dhelmise to Aggron so I can demolish everything with STAB-Steelworker-Choice Band Iron Head

[cold fog]

Power Trick Gyro Ball Shuckle/Dhelmise with Steelworker is gonna WRECK everything. XD

[prime dust]

irony given it is often considered the black sheep of the pokemon games barring the nonsense the new ones have done

[fleet hull]

Steelworker Dhelmise/Registeel will go crazy with the drop of the Regis today!

[prime dust]

it also killed the 3 games per generation

[cold fog]

I loved the sequel though. Wish the other gens would've done this, TBH.

[lofty spindle]

I love that we have all begun coping things into existence now.

[fleet hull]

Every desired Pokémon here is coping let’s be honest

[lofty spindle]

Absolutely.

[high haven]

Seviper head & Dhelmise body would unironically look amazing

[lofty spindle]

Well, I shall continue coping until SWEET LITTLE RIBOMBEE, I KNOW WHAT YOU WANT FROM ME

[silent acorn]

I see people checked my and the others discussion on dhelmise cuz now we got a bunch of custom and cool dhelmise fusions. I can feel proud of myself now

To make a mon good you need to contribute ideas, concepts and help, is not enough to just believe it's good for fusions. You have to search for a way to make it good.

Assist in materializing the concepts and ideas from the aether like Azreal said

[fleet hull]

Idc bout all that I just get dopamine from seeing dhelmise in anything ever

[silent acorn]

If you don't care you are not getting that dopamine as often. Sloths don't get their food without moving

[terse fable]

Hoo wee can't wait for the [insert all my favorite mon's here] reveal today!

[remote hornet]

Dhelmise is the last one right?

With him they are 20

[terse fable]

Read #announcements scroll up till you see bonus blitz

[remote hornet]

Oh ok thx, I read it. Nice

[silent acorn]

Gotta massage the Brain to supply ideas in case is another one that's hard lol

[high haven]

I wonder if any of our discussions have influenced Toads decisions

[arctic sail]

Probably not—at least when it comes to the Blitz. After all, the announcement said that they weren’t being picked for popularity.

[high haven]

I wasn't thinking for popularity, but rather if Toads opinion on any given Mon were altered for better or for worse.

[fleet hull]

It’s mighty handy and dandy that I am not a sloth

[arctic sail]

Ahh, in that case… maybe? I still doubt it tho.

[oak plover]

I'm realizing it is really easy to convince me to support any Pokémon being in the game

[high haven]

Alright, good for you

[clever atlas]

Im feeling a doggo reveal today

[oak plover]

:D

[arctic sail]

What do you guys think is gonna be the new Pokémon announced today? Given that Stufful/Bewear have their own potential plushie niche and Dhelmise has its own deep-sea/pirate/shipwreck niche, plus what was said in the announcement about how it would include “Pokémon being beneficial to the game for reasons other than popularity”, I suspect we’re gonna get even more Pokémon with specific niches. And more specifically… My bet is on Swirlix/Slurpuff. The food and dessert themed fusions would be incredible.

[high haven]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-nervous-i-dont-know-sweating-sweat-gif-18456744

[cold fog]

https://tenor.com/view/furfrou-pokemon-anime-pissed-asking-politely-gif-1221705422168701093

[hollow cosmos]

I like it when they add pokemon with specific niches, especially abilities

[cold fog]

I'd like another doggo

[clever atlas]

Also passable

[high haven]

I wanna snek

[surreal chasm]

It dropped to 16%

[dull root]

I'm willing to bet Steelworker (Dhelmise's ability that grants it steel type STAB) was a bit part of it getting picked. It's possible whatever is announced today will be similar

[clever atlas]

Ooh malamar vibes

[high haven]

By this logic that means Pokémon like Zygard & Wishiwashi are more likely options since they have multiple forms while technically being 1 Pokémon.

[fleet hull]

Wishiwashi I think is super likely here tbh

[dull root]

I mean, usefulness for fusions is also important but yeah, your logic tracks

[fleet hull]

Not too sure about zygarde since we don’t know how legends will be handled yet

[sterile spoke]

Wishiwashi's also a mono-Water type rather than addressing any of IF's type gaps, so I don't know if it's too likely. 😮

[fleet hull]

Wishiwashi is also super creative for a lot of fusions, which is why I think it’s likely since it offers in both departments

[cold fog]

I don't think Wishiwashi has a big possibility TBH. Unless they can figure out the coding of Big Wishiwashi only being available in battles with over 25% HP while LVL 20 +. It's not something like Aegislash's stance change,

[high haven]

I said those two specifically because they change both form and stats depending on their current HP

[dull root]

I also think Bewear was notable for being another fighting type (people have been begging) and Fluffy. I think it's the first mon with Fluffy?

[cold fog]

It is. Hence why I want Furfrou. Fluffy is Dollar-store Fur Coat D:

[fleet hull]

I’m pretty sure it’s the only Pokémon available with Fluffy

[dull root]

So pokemon with unique/interesting abilities. And or mons that fill a specific niche I think

[high haven]

Isn't Fluffy like the physical defence version of Huge Power?

[fleet hull]

Fur Coat is

[dull root]

Also gives you weakness to fire

[cold fog]

Fluffy also takes double damage VS Fire

[dull root]

"Fluffy reduces damage from contact moves by 50%, but Fire-type moves do double damage. Fire-type moves that make contact do regular damage."

[fleet lantern]

That seems like a nightmare for Scizor and ferrothorn

[cold fog]

And yes, Stufful/Bewear will be the only Fluffy 'mons, since the others who get it are gens 8 and 9 (Dubwool and Greavard)

[graceful torrent]

Honestly I want Bronzong in the game

[hollow creek]

Ight guys whose gonna be the new reveal today

[graceful torrent]

Give me a steel type with TWO good ass abilities to remove one of its two weaknesses

[high haven]

Who knows aside from Toad

[fleet lantern]

Yes

[surreal chasm]

I just found out Houndstone's hidden abillity is fluffy
Why. It's a SKELETON

[dull root]

So Golisopod is surprisingly likely i think

[fleet lantern]

Steel rock type with levitate

[hollow creek]

I agree

[graceful torrent]

You’re gonna have to elaborate on this one chief

[fleet lantern]

Fur innit

[white meadow]

moldy skeleton

[hollow creek]

I think a lot of these blitz Pokémon will be coming from the spriter poll results

[fleet lantern]

Probs should have been given to dachsbun

[high haven]

Moldy skeleton with hair

[dull root]

It's covered in fluff tho??? Super shaggy

[surreal chasm]

Last time I checked Skeletons aren't fluffy

[fleet hull]

It’s not just made of bone though lmao it literally is covered in fur

[graceful torrent]

Oh I totally misread that sentence

[high haven]

What did you read it as?

[fleet hull]

Also I’m on board with Golisopod but I think Araquanid is slightly more likely due to having a more impactful ability

[dull root]

Wait what the heck, Araquanid gets 3x damage with water moves?

Am I getting that right?

[fleet hull]

Yes Water Bubble is comedic

[surreal chasm]

Oh yeah. Still though, it's fur reads to me as kinda dry and thin, not very pleasant to the touch

[fleet hull]

As well as Fire resistance and Burn immunity just because

[sharp nebula]

it would burn well tho

[surreal chasm]

Can't argue with that lol

[fleet hull]

And I doubt Pokémon want to use contact moves on that

[dull root]

Fluffy does mean you go up in flames lol

[eternal garden]

doing Rotom/Dhelmise

[sharp nebula]

based

[surreal chasm]

But why out of all the pokemon with fur, of which there are many, the chose to give fluffy to houndstone?

[dull root]

Looking at the list of possible mons; Archen would be an interesting pick. Defeatist is actively terrible but I think it'd be funny

[high haven]

Is this wheel weighted?

[eternal garden]

It will have an anchor. I'm not sure I know what you mean though lol

[high haven]

Zangoose gives the abilities Immunity as well Toxic boost. There may be a chance for my boy

The only other Mon to share immunity with Zangoose is Snorlax and Toxic Boost is only held by Zangoose

So with all of this in mind Zangoose has the technical stuff while Seviper has the looks

[dull root]

I can see it I suppose. Zangoose doesn't really have much in the way of fusion goodness though

[surreal chasm]

Imagine if they added the loyal three and we had access to toxic chain for every pokemon 💀

Salazzle's Corrosion would be pretty neat

[cold fog]

I forgot about Corrosion. Definitely agree, I would love to see this. Or Toxapex' Merciless, that can be another option.

[fallen loom]

WHY did they add Dhelmise over the LITERAL PUMPKIN POKÉMON on the FIRST OF OCTOBER? It's easier to sprite for than the anchor/seaweed/ghost/steering wheel

same typing SMH

[sharp nebula]

dont

[fallen loom]

do

[brisk vessel]

Cuz we have Trevenant for the funny halloween mon

[fallen loom]

what's more halloween-esque? a dead tree or a pumpkin?

what do they sell in shops during October? dead trees? no?

[idle prairie]

Cope

[vivid merlin]

I mean they do sell dead trees throughout the year

[brisk vessel]

They do though (as props)

[fallen loom]

that's a christmas thing

[vivid merlin]

lots of things are made of wood

[sterile spoke]

You seem angry a lot of the time. 😮

[fallen loom]

I'm not, I just think it's dumb

[sterile spoke]

I'm not keen on it either, but I'm not getting bent out of shape. 😅

[idle prairie]

You're rather vocal about this for someone not angry

[fallen loom]

so only angry people can be vocal?

[hollow creek]

Im honestly loving the dhelmise fusions so far

[vivid merlin]

I mean it's pretty uncommon for someone not angry to be as vocal as you are tbf

[hollow creek]

Also warming up a lot to bewear I think i love it now

[fallen loom]

I'm discussing the weird and dumbness of it

[idle prairie]

Your tone sounded angry

[hollow creek]

The bewear/tyrantrum in spritework is chefs kiss

[fallen loom]

Bewear was a good choice

[vivid merlin]

Discuss is a strong word

[brisk vessel]

My only bewear is a joke sprite cuz they never said joke sprite's don't count towards the blitz thing

[surreal chasm]

That would be really great for a mono poison team

[brisk vessel]

(Well it still has effort but it's definitely more reference than fusion)

[vivid merlin]

merciless salazel/toxapex venoshock would be a banger, or gengar, or really any solid special attacking poison type

[fallen loom]

Pokémon in IF based on Gen 7 totals (excluding forms, Megas and reginal variants, except for Oricorio)
35/45 Dragon Types (77.8%)
33/44 Ghost Types (75%)
33/49 Steel Types (71.7%)
44/64 Ground Types (68.8%)
45/66 Poison Types (68.2%)
38/64 Fire Types (59.4%)
59/101 Flying Types (58.4%)
35/60 Rock Types (58.3%)
28/49 Electric Types (57.1%)
45/83 Psychic Types (54.2%)
25/47 Fairy Types (53.2%)
57/111 Normal Types (51.4%)
67/131 Water Types (51.1%)
24/48 Dark Types (50%)
17/34 Ice Types (50%)
46/97 Grass Types (47.4%)
36/77 Bug Types (46.8%)
21/53 Fighting Types (39.6%)

[idle prairie]

Why are there so many water types?

[fallen loom]

yet only 51.1% of them are in game

[surreal chasm]

We really need more fighting types huh 💀

[sharp nebula]

theres a lot of water

[fleet hull]

Because water types are common

[golden acorn]

Some more ice and fighting mons would be nice

[fallen loom]

Grass, Bug and Fighting are the most lacking

[golden acorn]

Especially those with Snow Warning

[mystic crystal]

Pokemon always has a lot of water types because of water routes; since you can't fill the encounters with most mons that can appear on land

[idle prairie]

So that's what IGN meant by "Too much water"

[lofty spindle]

What similiar things do we have?

[prime dust]

that pretty much sums up the hoenn region

[surreal chasm]

Oh Palossand really wouldn't help to balance out the typings at all lol

[fallen loom]

No, no it wouldn't... but Leavanny and literally any Fighting Type would

[prime dust]

yeah but...sandcastle

[hollow creek]

I really hope we get abomasnow

[surreal chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[sterile spoke]

I think joke sprites do count. 🙂

[dull root]

It was discussed a little back in this thread, but golisopod has a unique ability, Zangoose/Marinie also have interesting things going on. You'll have to back read to see the rest of the discussion

[fallen loom]

Golisopod should get in because Gen 7 bugs are peak

[white meadow]

gen 7 is peak

[sharp nebula]

golisopods ability is terrible, did you mean araquanid?

[fallen loom]

I like Araquanid too

[prime dust]

unique does not equate to terrible

[dull root]

Just because an ability is bad doesn't mean it's interesting

[surreal chasm]

Honestly I was quite suprised Vikavolt isn't already in the game

[idle prairie]

You could do some interesting things with Golisopod's ability

[lofty spindle]

Hm... Golisopd's ability but on a Pokémon that actually benefits from it...

[idle prairie]

like turning recoil moves into a pivot move

[dull root]

I also think Archen is possible

[fleet hull]

Golisopods ability is not terrible

[white meadow]

doesn't work with self damage

[idle prairie]

ah, unfortunate

[frozen remnant]

Don't do that don't give me hope

[surreal chasm]

Imagine Archeops but with a good abillity

[idle prairie]

Archeops with an ability that doesn't hamstring it

[fleet hull]

Tbh I don’t want any more fossils until Aurorus is added

[dull root]

Imo ease of spriting has very little influence on what sprites should and shouldn't get in. What it comes down to for me is, Dhelmise is just plain more interesting than Gourgeist

[sterile spoke]

I disagree. 😦

[surreal chasm]

But... Pumpkins... Halloween themed pokemon!

[prime dust]

but we could have had double spoopi for halloween with gourgeist and trevanant

[sterile spoke]

I can already think of a good few different pumpkin-themed fusions. 🙂

[fallen loom]

these are the top 5 most lacking types (percentage speaking):
Dark
Ice
Grass
Bug
Fighting

[dull root]

Fair, Maybe I just don't like Gourgeist, idk

[sterile spoke]

Whereas anchors are much more obscure. 😮

[lofty spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/ribombee-pokemon-fairy-cute-gif-22197024
And you know what helps with bug?

[fleet hull]

I like Gourgeist more than Dhelmise but I think Dhel was still an overall better pick

[prime dust]

wouldn't even need to be all pumpkin...you could maybe do other big fruit/veggies as well

[fallen loom]

Fairy is 8th most lacking

[surreal chasm]

Dhelmise is a cool pokemon but it isn't exactly the best fusion material out there

[dull root]

I don't know why everyone is so obssessed with having equal amounts of every type. Some types are supposed to be more rare

[lofty spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperors-new-groove-its-all-coming-together-gif-12813012

[prime dust]

like maybe gourgeist + ??? equals a James and the Giant Peach reference

[idle prairie]

I don't know, I've been seeing some pretty cool dhelmise fusions

[fallen loom]

It's why I do it percentage-wise, since it makes the overabundance of Dragon and Ghost types even more obvious

[dull root]

References are the bane of good sprites (only half joking)

[surreal chasm]

Yeah and they're all head fusions

Only 16% of the Dhelmise fusions currently in the gallery are body fusions

[frigid anvil]

I just saw all the awful reactions on the dhelmise reveal, y'all really aren't happy with anything

[dull root]

I guess technically it's not in the gallery but:

[marsh silo]

Mods, can you program gen 9 into the game? I really like Kingambit. K thanks.

[fallen loom]

NGH

[fleet hull]

Erm could we add Annihilape and Bellibolt please and Ty

[idle prairie]

I mean, he only just came out, there aren't going to be that many fusions of him, so it wouldn't be surprising to see it skewered towards the head fusion