pif-hoenn-discussion

[white meadow]

L school

[alpine rune]

why are you not using VPN?

[white meadow]

Naw my school mid

[alpine rune]

L device honestly

[graceful torrent]

yeah dude im sure most middle schools are mid

[white meadow]

Middle school?

[alpine rune]

Just use VPN kekw

[white meadow]

Ok

[analog perch]

I hope they add the purple and red armor guys, although they got added in S&V so it’s a long shot but the amount of mega man fusions would be amazing

[graceful torrent]

they cannot; the game engine only has pokemon up to gen 7

[sick charm]

i really hope slurpuff gets in

[vast sail]

what even happened that expanding the dex was even considered

i remember reading a very definitive announcement that the dex would be finalized at 420

[stone cliff]

They revamped how fusions are done

[feral bear]

No, I believe its a stylistic choice, so it could change in the future. The implementation of pokemon and fusions was recently changed to allow for more, so thats no longer an issue

[graceful torrent]

the game engine's information for pokemon is from generation 7

[zealous flint]

tropus cool

[wraith dew]

Just 1 more pokemon on the list i want in..

[prisma willow]

Liligant please

[sharp sphinx]

I believe it's rather youg et added to the drawing to choose 1 for trevenant rush

same as the winners of each mini contest get to

[sand mica]

Is Swoobat coming to the game?

[sharp sphinx]

confirmed stuff is pinned

[sand mica]

Wait, when was Noivern confirmed? I don't remember it in #announcements at all.

I would rather have this please.

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-swoobat-gif-27580265

[white meadow]

istg if minior doesnt get in 🥹

[sand mica]

Skuntank and Grumpig better get in now so this can happen:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1137892936915361942/1142491047012859934/Skunpig.png

Wait, how is Pyukumuku in but not Pinurchin?

[formal blade]

I believe pinchurin was added in swsh but pyukumuku was sun and moon

[trail hull]

They use an add-on of rpg maker that adds the Pokémon up to gen 7 tho the add-on is up to gen 9 they are still on an older version (maybe they can’t port it over)

[fleet halo]

Yea pincurchin was pyukumuku 2, not its counterpart

[sand mica]

Yeah but why Pykumuku even got in? It's not good, Pincurchin was good.

[odd summit]

I can’t imagine hating Noivern and Pykumuku

[sand mica]

Well, I don't hate either, but I like other related Pokémon more.

[finite thistle]

I love Pyukumuku, used one in a mono-water type playthrough of Ultra Moon and it spewed all over Ultra Necrozma. Fuse this thing with a Wailord and it gets that massive HP stat that its always wanted

Mind you, even I never considered it to be the most popular Pokemon, so the fact that it was considered in the same breadth as Mimikyu for the only gen 7 reps for now is amazing

[finite thistle]

We do need some Hail/Snow somewhere in this game. Especially since Abomasnow didn't get in

And also, it's partner in crime is getting all the love, which is pretty rough for my Amargasaurus buddy

[steep glen]

Anchor, Singer and anohter Ice Type. I would rather have the cute kimonoh bug but their are so few ice types

[clever vigil]

Snover's cry do be like "awewwew" tho

[alpine rune]

Dont need to imagine because i hate everyhting

[frigid stream]

Nwovren

[tender edge]

this is me when people shit on goodra by the way

[tender edge]

I just needed to use this image tbj

[white meadow]

omg it's internet explorer!

[half quarry]

is tyrantrum in the newest update?

[lofty spindle]

It was a pick reward for someone back in the day.

[safe depot]

I haven't tried yet but I wonder which fusions with Pyuk are really good

[clever vigil]

A stupid Pyukumuku killed my starter in my randomized nuzlocke so I kinda despise it now

[hasty glacier]

What’s the Pokémon in the server’s thumbnail? Tyrantrum mixed with…sharpedo? Don’t we not have Sharpedo?

[agile olive]

You're a bit behind on #announcements man

[hasty glacier]

Oh oh wow

[viscid mica]

predictions on the last 4 pokemon? my guess is golisopod line, necrozma, and i have 0 clue for the last one

[sturdy breach]

Lurantis, Aurorus. Not predictions but strictly what I would want 🙂

[viscid mica]

isnt that 5 mons

[sturdy breach]

both 2 stage lines

[viscid mica]

lurantis is a 2 stage?

[sturdy breach]

Yup

[viscid mica]

i never think about its existence so i always assumed it was a 3 stage

also if aurorus was added wouldnt they group it with tyrantrum?

[sturdy breach]

No, they were very clear that they didn't want to set a precedent that counterparts are linked together.

[viscid mica]

fair enuf

i wouldnt mind either being added, lurantis has contrary, and i like aurorus' design

i just feel like they're not the most likely to be added considering the whole nsg campaign

[surreal chasm]

Palossand Palossand Palossand Sandygast

[mossy finch]

Pallosand needs to make it in

Same with torkoal

[dim sparrow]

It will, no way they troll but not end up adding sandygast later on

[alpine rune]

would be funny if they did

[white meadow]

I mean someon said that there is no explanation for the rumble

[alpine rune]

it was golisopod digging up trust

not coping whatsoever

[white meadow]

I hope it is Golisopod

[dim sparrow]

Toxapex also lives on beaches

[alpine rune]

what it turned out to be:

[clever atlas]

I mean it was most likely noivern's Boomburst
Though my theory before noivern's reveal was that it's clawitzer shooting

[mossy finch]

Yeah that would just be annoying

[surreal chasm]

It's just teasing it's just teasing

[white meadow]

Im jokeing im 99% sure that Palosand gets in

[surreal chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-reaction-good-gif-13088713

[sterile spoke]

I personally asked Frogman to not add Sandygast and Palossand and just tease you all continuously. 😛

I didn't, I actually really want them in as well. 🙂

[mossy finch]

How dare you

My first games were gen 7 and I love ghost types, so naturally sandy ghast is one I would love to see make it in

Does anyone know how many slots are left?

[sterile spoke]

4 vote slots are left, that's all we know. Bonuses are up in the air, though there will be at least 1-3 more depending on the contest winner raffle. 🙂

[agile olive]

at this point I wouldn't be surprised haha. I expected them and necrozma from the playtest stuff but I now think it's an elaborate troll

[trail hull]

If they choose wurmple we’re getting 5 slots

Which hurts

Even tho it’s a free pick

[unique rock]

i knew it was you all along

[sharp nebula]

dancing meloetta

[karmic pawn]

I hope Pikachu gets in

[clever atlas]

I hope for my bois

[iron glen]

Can i get a tldr for how voting works or seeing which pokemon are being added please

[alpine rune]

hope? what's that?

[clever atlas]

Voting is closed and confirmed mons are in pins

[iron glen]

Cheers

My bois noivern and sableye less goo

[cunning seal]

At this point I won’t mind guzzlord to be in

[viscid mica]

anything but Furfrou

[white meadow]

Anything but Bruxish

[jovial glacier]

Sableye feels like it's gonna have a ton of fusion material potential, just by giving anything a gemstone motif

[craggy lynx]

4 slots are left right?

[sterile spoke]

4 vote slots, yes. 🙂

[craggy lynx]

Well either way, we're close to the end of this channel

[sterile spoke]

The number of bonuses, however, is unknown. 😄

[craggy lynx]

👁️

[ebon glacier]

Spriter pick when?

[craggy lynx]

Well it's been a while since a bonus pick has been announced

[clever atlas]

Imma guess at least 2

[sterile spoke]

9 of the top 10 from the Spriter-only poll already got in. 😛

[craggy lynx]

so there's 1 yet to be revealed, or at least that's what i'm understanding

[sterile spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

The Spriter-only poll is not affecting any decisions about additions to the game. 😅

[craggy lynx]

Oh, i see

[sterile spoke]

It was just done by me for fun. Frogman hasn't even looked at it. 😂

I wanted to see how it aligned with the vote, and the additions we end up getting. Right now, it's actually pretty accurate. 😮

[ebon glacier]

Nawh, that’s staff pick. Whatchu mean?

[sterile spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-what-emote-gif-23702501

[ebon glacier]

Wait, so you’re telling me there’s a spriter poll? Where?

[sterile spoke]

It's closed now. 😛

It closed when the official one did. 😅

[surreal chasm]

Did the spriter poll have any significance over the regular one?

[brisk vessel]

Nope

[alpine rune]

I think its Blaqs way to weed out which people who voted Tsareena

The one that draws that is

But hey, that's just a theory

[sterile spoke]

It was just for fun (and to try and lobby for some unpopular picks of the Spriters wanted them in). 🙂

[white meadow]

What would be tge rest in the spriter one

[livid geyser]

it’s so Glameover for us purugly gang

[craggy lynx]

It's so gogover for us Gogoat fans, all 20 of them

[pale sparrow]

(Huge L for the spriter community, turns out even they are corrupted by dragon go brrr)

[brisk vessel]

Its gogover

[brisk vessel]

I just want my green mikumon

[sterile spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-monkey-chimp-smart-gif-22251726

[brisk vessel]

Idc about anything else

[sterile spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-what-emote-gif-23702501

[brisk vessel]

Melo

[pale sparrow]

ah

eh

[brisk vessel]

It would be perfect considering the Miku Pokemon collab ongoing right now

The timing literally could not be better (besides when they released the first art I guess)

[craggy lynx]

wait there's a hatsune miku collab with pokemon?

[brisk vessel]

It's my one and only wish

Yea it's been ongoing for like the past weeks
They've been doing "a Miku of every type"

Fighting type Miku just released today and her partner is Sirfetch'd

[white meadow]

Imagine they show Miku with a new Mon introducing a 19th type

[sullen elbow]

Wouldn't it be the 20th

[white meadow]

How many types are there again

[sterile spoke]

How does this relate to this channel? 😮

[tame flax]

47

[sullen elbow]

I forgor to reply to the person on top

[sharp nebula]

Dude the dark one is so nice

[glossy osprey]

the dark one?

[violet pawn]

no.

[terse fable]

*yes

[violet pawn]

that is just simply not what was being talked about

[terse fable]

Don't be hating, we can like the Miku/pokemon stuff and Guzzlord too

[violet pawn]

I Don't hating

[terse fable]

I'm playing lol, so what pokemon are people really dying for these next couple reveals? I already know some people's preferences here but wondering if things changed or if there's other mons that you've considered, what we thinking?

[mystic rivet]

Still have fingers crossed for regis

[sharp nebula]

I'm sure you can guess

[mystic rivet]

Bruxish?

[feral fiber]

victini

[sullen elbow]

Hmm manectric

[terse fable]

Saaaaaaame, that's definitely one of my top 3 when it comes to Mons I want added, just so the set can feel complete for me

[mystic rivet]

Except not really cuz no regieleki or regidrago

[sharp nebula]

Honestly I'd be kinda disappointed if the Regis make it

[terse fable]

Meloetta is cute, I'm cool with her getting in, just hope it's soon the spots are so few now

[mystic rivet]

Curious what the potential still is for staff picks

[sharp nebula]

Is the contest winner raffle still happening? I haven't seen it mentioned in a while

[feral fiber]

speaking of melo why are almost all the mytichals small lmao

[terse fable]

I think it's supposed to be, but know knows when they'll announce that one

[mystic rivet]

Because mythical means illusive so they gotta be small and good at hiding. That's my logic anyway.

[sullen elbow]

I pesonaly want minior dhelmise and diancie. Well dhelmise a little less now that we got a grass ghost already. Oh and marshadow would be cool I guess but like that's ever gonna happen

[terse fable]

Actually kinda makes sense lol, like the reasoning

[sharp nebula]

It'll most likely be the last one, seeing as every addition is getting a contest

[feral fiber]

then what be with the deoxys and the arceus

[mystic rivet]

One is from space and the other is literally god. Sounds pretty illusive to me.

[sharp nebula]

And darkrai is just a shadow

[feral fiber]

ok what about volcano

[terse fable]

I can also agree the Regi's might be boring picks compared to other mons that can be added, there's a lot of options after all, it's really more of a "feels like they're missing" thing for me, the game probably doesn't NEED them though I can admit that, as sad as it is

[mystic rivet]

There's so many legends and tucked away areas, plus randos you get in a randomizer, it's hard to remember which you've cleared checks for in PIF.

[sharp nebula]

Volcanion is lame we ignore it

[mystic rivet]

I actually really liked Volcanion in the movie.

And having a fire/water type is fun. Still would have liked that beta gen2 fire/water seal though.

[little island]

Did the Goodra line count as 3 entries?

[mystic rivet]

Yup

[sharp nebula]

Anyway I have trash signal so I'll be off

[little island]

So anything left is either 2 solo legendaries or a 2step?

[terse fable]

Well there's 4 slots left, so add a couple mons to that and yep

[little island]

Turns out i can't count, thank you

[feral bear]

Ideally it will be all fairies or fighting types, even though fighting types are less thematically compelling (TO MEEE)

[marsh yew]

https://tenor.com/view/toxicroak-frog-pisn-gif-26863503

[loud depot]

Just no more fucking dragons

[alpine rune]

next reveal: Zygarde

[lethal reef]

We just get bruxish with 3 new variants, just for IF

[violet pawn]

different forms don't take slots

[marsh yew]

So, regionals maybe incoming?

[violet pawn]

IIRC frog said that it's possibly happening later, but definitely not in this update

[marsh yew]

Excellent; great if in eventually, no big deal if not

[unique rock]

ice or fighting

[glacial vigil]

Alolan ninetales dreams

Also, general is scary

[alpine rune]

man i wish

[oblique sigil]

what region is infinite fusion in anyways?

[violet pawn]

bro

[feral fiber]

its the new region coming in scarlet and violet dlc

[lean lily]

My favorites to get in would be Amaura and Aurorus. Great visual designs, underrepresented abilities and typings, fun stats and movepools, and something that can bring a lot of good to a fusion while also needing fusion to mitigate their flaws. I think they perfectly represent what the game is about.

[oblique sigil]

why would it be the kitakami region

also I don't think theres regional forms in kitakami

[sullen elbow]

crabobinable so you can get both

[glacial vigil]

I wish. They are my favourite fossils

[lean lily]

Right? Speaking of which, aren't there an odd number of fossil lines now? Or did I miss what's getting paired with Tyrunt/Tyrantrum?

[feral fiber]

i also really like them but i think the community was more excited about getting tyrunt and tyrantrum

[outer matrix]

4x Weakness to fighting

[feral fiber]

pairs dont necessarily enter the game together i think

[lean lily]

Yeah, so, it needs fusion to give it a better typing. Part of my main point.

[marsh yew]

I'd take Archen before Amaura, but the full fossil set would be great

[feral fiber]

i dont think we need so many fossils tbh

[lean lily]

Fair point, but I'd advocate for Aurorus whether it was a fossil or not.

[marsh yew]

Better than starters

[rough hound]

KRUSTY KRAB IS UNFAIR, HYPNOTOAD IS IN THERE

[feral fiber]

starters didnt count to the numbers

[rough hound]

im trying to actually advocate for a cause but the silliness just takes over sometimes lmao

[marsh yew]

https://tenor.com/view/medicham-gif-18360594

[lean lily]

Meditite and Medicham would be really fun, too.

[outer matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/unfair-not-fair-spongebob-angry-annoyed-gif-20421612

[marsh yew]

The second coming of Azumarill

[rough hound]

YES

[lean lily]

I just find the game is its most fun when I'm coming up with creative ways to fuse flawed Pokemon to bring out the best in them - not when I'm playing with the most powerful or rare individual Pokemon.

[outer matrix]

Sunkern only run

[marsh yew]

Toxicroak, Medicham, Dragalge, Gothitelle, Lilligant, Pyroar, Gogoat, Cresselia... plenty of stuff that would be great

[lean lily]

Ooh, I'd be happy with any of those!

We already have a ton of dragons, but I'd still go to bat for Dragalge.

[rough hound]

yknow, if we all banded together and got staff picks for all the mods we have a great chance at a bunch of those mons

especially dragalge. if all the mods get picks, dragalge is a garuntee

[naive cobalt]

praying for no more dragons

[lean lily]

Dumb question time: how does that "staff pick" stuff work?

[white meadow]

Actually no cuz Aerodactyl

[marsh yew]

Praying for no Marshadow 🫠

[rough hound]

basically, they get to pick a free mon that doesnt count toward the 20. but only a few of the mods actually got staff picks

[lean lily]

Yeah, I thought of that a few minutes after I posted, but the rest of the fossils I know of have been paired up. Still, Aerodactyl sets the precedent that pairing up isn't necessary.

[spice void]

what are the 20?

[rough hound]

seriously tho, whats the worst that could happen if we all start making propoganda for giving the mod team their own picks.

at worst, nothing. at best, all the mods get appreciation for their work and we get more pokemon

[brisk vessel]

Aerodactyl was added cuz the game was in development by the time Jurassic Park came out

[rough hound]

the 20 pokemon we're getting for the votes

[spice void]

is there somewhere i could see them?

[lean lily]

Oh, you mean which ones have been picked toward the 20 so far?

Also, yes, it does seem only fair that all of the mods get to have staff picks - assuming the game can handle that many extra Pokemon.

[rough hound]

the ones we have so far are in the pins

[spice void]

ahh thank you!

[lean lily]

(Also, Jellicent would be amazing.)

[rough hound]

i think with the updates that have happened over the course of the votes its very possible that the game can handle it

[spice void]

a few dragons there lmaooo

[lean lily]

(Imagine all the Pringles-face fusions.)

[outer matrix]

The dragon types were the most popular in the votes I think

[lean lily]

To be fair, it does feel awesome to have a fused dragon-type in your party.

I'm curious about the distribution of typings in IF compared to the official games.

[rough hound]

cmon yall, join the cause. we can all make propoganda and get more people to help

let the mods cook

[outer matrix]

I heard somewhere on this channel that dragon type has the most in this game, and fighting & another typing had the least

[lean lily]

Without directly looking at the numbers or anything, that does feel about right.

[naive cobalt]

water is the most but we got 8 god damn dragons from this vote

[lean lily]

I want to say Ice is also underrepresented.

[naive cobalt]

and 3 of them are pure dragon

[rough hound]

btw, if yall wanna edit your faces onto this heres it without me on it

[white meadow]

The problem is that they wanna take theyr time so that not everyone expects that every pair gets added together instantly

[outer matrix]

In terms of dragon types about to be added, we got:

• Cloud Birb
• Slime snail dragon
• T-rex
• Bat with very large ears

[inland jewel]

to be fair, the mods that got staff pick have been doing this work for years, since this server started in like 2018 or something

[lean lily]

When's the cutoff?

[rough hound]

ok, and the newer mods dont deserve appreciation?

[lean lily]

I mean, I could see why staff pick wouldn't go to mods that joined after the dex expansion was announced, but what is the cutoff point?

[prime dust]

for what?

[inland jewel]

maybe in a few years from now

[lean lily]

For how long you have to have been a mod to get staff pick.

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/forever-sandlot-the-sandlot-gif-13526090

[rough hound]

i think that being a mod of this server in the first place makes them more than deserving enough of their own picks

[sand mica]

Skuntank needs to be in the game.

[rough hound]

quiet heathen

[sand mica]

https://tenor.com/view/no-donkeys-shrek-gif-16041065

[inland jewel]

Reason why people were chosen to be staff pick
Kiwi: She was the main head for sprite packs every month ever since the game started.
Kuray: Revamped the entire fusion system so we can get more mons
Charbud: Dev of the game

As opposed to giving staff pick to someone who signed up like last month.

[outer matrix]

The hardwork for moderating should be rewarded

[inland jewel]

this would also severely inflate the mod signups

since they would just sign up to be mod, get their pokemon in and then just quit.

[rough hound]

ok, let me phrase it in a different way. why tf dont you want more pokemon in the game? like, i wanna do this for the mods bc theyre cool, but it gives you more pokemon to fuse so why are you arguing it

[lean lily]

Is there a middle ground? Maybe the mods (who have been mods since before the dex expansion was announced) can have their own separate vote to put in a few extra Pokemon?

That would be a way to reward them without it being the same "tier" as the staff picks.

[rough hound]

ive summoned hypnotoad again

[spice sage]

Smh @stark wolf taking all the credits for revamping the fusion system >.<

[sand mica]

The whole point of the game is to fuse your favorite Pokémon, but a lot of my favorites aren't even in!

Just look at how many are on the list that I want.

Hypnotoad, can you promise Skuntank will be in the game?

[prime dust]

no

[inland jewel]

lmao, sorry if i get that point wrong, i just know you mentioned them when you talked about the fusion revamp

[rough hound]

my brother in arceus this aint about you

[stark wolf]

I gave the idea, froggy did the revamp himself, I was supposed to do it but I didn't had time and he beated me to it

[spice sage]

Kuray helped by downloading the new autogen sprites 😛 (which I am extremely grateful for)

[inland jewel]

ok ok, now i know who to credit

[stark wolf]

smh getting pinged by the hypnotoad

[spice sage]

And motivated me to do the fusion revamp xd

[sand mica]

Just look at all these cool Pokémon that deserve to be in the game.

[prime dust]

some of them will be

[lean lily]

You know what else I'd like to see get in? Salazzle.

[drifting orchid]

Lilligant Medicham Pangoro and Zangoose/Seviper deserve some love too🗣️

[prime dust]

and thus that list is invalid

[stark wolf]

"motivated" and "convinced"

[rough hound]

hypnotoad, since youre here, why not give the mods their own picks? like, i know its extra work and all but theyre doing great work here.

if it seems like too much work, you could always place restrictions on them like limiting things to 2 slot lines

[stark wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-gun-suspense-meme-gif-26303307

[outer matrix]

Where's lurantis and meloetta?

[spice sage]

I did do that and they picked Scolipede.

[rough hound]

i mean individual picks =P

[stark wolf]

have you seen the number of mods ?

[lean lily]

Or at least more than one pick, right?

[spice sage]

Getting a bit greedy there lmao

[lean lily]

What about, say, five evolution lines between the mods? That would feel a lot more representative of their wishes than one.

[prime dust]

it could have been a mod vote

[rough hound]

i just think the mods around here work hard enough to deserve it

[spice sage]

Yes and that's why I gave them a staff pick

[stark wolf]

nobody said it was the last time new mons were getting added. but the more pokemons to be added you'll ask, the more you'll have to wait for them to be in-game.
so just let it be the current planned numbers, and perhaps have more mons coming in the future.

[drowsy elm]

The frogs word is final

[rough hound]

but why just one? from the ones ive talked to, it seems like most of them didnt get their top picks in

[prime dust]

because reasons

[lean lily]

I'm saying, maybe there's an answer in between "the entire group gets one pick collectively" and "the entire group gets one pick each".

[lean lily]

That's a fair point. I'm not trying to be greedy or come across like I don't appreciate what we already have. IF is an amazing game.

[stark wolf]

there isn't why can't you be happy that new pokemons get introduced to begin with

[marsh yew]

Down the road, let's see if more slots are viable and the like, and all that, for instance

[lean lily]

The comment immediately before that addresses that.

[inland jewel]

As they said October is the earliest the new mons will be added to the game

Each new mon makes the wait longer.

[sterile spoke]

All of the Pokémon being added will probably have been revealed before the update that introduces them. 🙂

[rough hound]

ive gotta know, why do you CARE. what do you have against them getting bonus picks? its just more pokemon for you

[sterile spoke]

Unless Frogman is devious and adds some hidden bonus friends.

[stark wolf]

I hope frogman will take more time to like november, just because it would be better for me to come back during november, but oh well we'll see

[marsh yew]

Oh, Eelektross and Drapion, those would be also neat

[rough hound]

and there isnt enough content rn to keep you busy for a little longer anyways?

[oblique sigil]

what if us spriters got our own vote, after all, we're the ones making the art of the game /j

[sterile spoke]

I did a Spriter-only poll and the top 9 are all already in IF anyway. 😛

[stark wolf]

because adding pokemons isn't a matter of just adding pokemons. you have to also think about custom sprites / artists.
all pokemons could get added within like 6 months, but that would make like 1% of the entire fusions having custom sprites, and 99% of the rest being just garbage

[oblique sigil]

XD

[sterile spoke]

Unofficial poll, might I add. 😂

[spice sage]

I mean, there's the contest winners raffle 😄

[oblique sigil]

all of them?

[stark wolf]

adding pokemons into PIF slowly, patch by patch, is the best approach.

[sterile spoke]

Just for fun to see how well the Spriter view aligned. 🙂

[outer matrix]

New (unofficial) vote where already voted in Pokémon are excluded to get better results?

[sterile spoke]

Yes. 10 is the first one that's not confirmed to be getting added. 😅

[rough hound]

youre gonna have to rephrase that because i simply cannot decipher what youre trying to say here

[lean lily]

I honestly assumed everything would be added in a few at a time regardless of the number that got announced.

[oblique sigil]

hello hypnotoad

[lean lily]

I'm happy to wait as long as necessary.

[spice sage]

And something else I can't talk about yet

[sterile spoke]

This man continues to prove he is a wizard. 😂

[oblique sigil]

also to be fair, not everyone that submits a contest entry is a spriter, so TECHNICALLY a non-spriter could theoretically win the contest

[sullen elbow]

or you could just wait till the next update instead of begging to frogman after all isnt there enough content rn to keep you busy anyways?

[feral bear]

I think that we should all just be satisfied that we are getting any new mons at all especially when the opposite has always been indicated. Also, the prospect of getting more than just the 20 picks in the future is very high, so theres really no reason to be upsey or go super hard on this lol

[stark wolf]

stop using this emote, they'll end up knowing we're the same person

[spice sage]

[stark wolf]

anyway I'm out, cya guys 🍕

[sterile spoke]

Like you said, the fact that it's happening at all is a miracle. We all thought this had a 0% chance of happening this time a few months ago. 😅

[oblique sigil]

hey hypnotoad, unrelated question but have you seen the new episodes of Futurama yet?

[trail hull]

So Guys even tho we 4 slots left here are the slots that we got told they might come: 27 from gen 5-7 starters , 4 from rotom forms, the 3deoxys forms and 1 from origin giratina we come to a total of 36

[sterile spoke]

Deoxys would presumably also be included in the forms list. 😅

[lean lily]

I don't think people are in this to be greedy or mean or unappreciative. We're just simultaneously excited to see that more things can make it into the game (which gives the potential for our favorites) and anxious to see that something we've only dreamed of can happen - and unfortunately, every Pokemon is someone's favorite, so there's bound to be some disappointment that comes with something like this. It's not anyone's fault and it doesn't mean we aren't happy to see the expansion.

[spice sage]

I have! (Except the last 2). I'm really enjoying them so far

[sand mica]

Yeah, I'm interested in my favorites so I will be most excited if Skuntank gets in now.

[brisk vessel]

Is this the Triple Dragon surprise

[trail hull]

Included them thank you

[prime dust]

they already said forms just take 1 slot

[lean lily]

Inevitably, people are going to get their hopes up.

[spice sage]

Nop something else

[prime dust]

and would apply to the mon they already belong to, despite the new dex entries

[brisk vessel]

I wish i could participate but college is too time consuming and my Goodra was made before the contest announcement so gg

[feral bear]

Some people are just being really intense about this tho, which needs to be addressed and dealt with on a personal level lol

[trail hull]

Let me introduce you to oricorio (and it got told in the announcement of oricorio that they might add others forms)

[rough hound]

i honestly dont understand all the people getting pressed about something that doesnt hurt anyone. like, if he didnt like it he could just tell me to shut up

anyways...

[lean lily]

That is a fair point.

[oblique sigil]

I love how they managed to make it basically the same as before... also episode 9 is a little different than most episodes of Futurama, and episode 10 is a good season finale tbh not gonna spoil anything for you though dw

[brisk vessel]

Tbf those are "permanent" form changes

[trail hull]

And so are the one listed

[sand mica]

Oricorio is a pretty good Pokémon.

[feral bear]

I just dont want to impact the people working hard to implement new content by being overly pushy or negative or even demanding yaknow?

[sterile spoke]

It does take 1 slot in terms of if Meloetta got in its 2 forms would only count as 1 slot, despite both getting added. 😄

[marsh yew]

Just gonna mention a Hitmon triple fusion lol

[brisk vessel]

Stuff like Origin Forms and Aegislash Blade wouldn't count
Whereas stuff like Midday/Midnight Lycanrock and Oricorio do count as separate slots

[oblique sigil]

imagine if after you beat the game, you unlock the ability to fuse three pokemon 🤔 that would be cool tbh. but a lot of work for us spriters XD

[brisk vessel]

Unless im getting the whole numbering thing wrong

[sand mica]

For all Pokémon and not just a few legends? That would be cool.

[spice sage]

Yeah I was lowkey expecting it to be really bad but I was really pleasantly surprised. A lot of it felt like the early seasons which are my favorites

[white meadow]

Obviously they pick the perfect Pokemon

[marsh yew]

Triple fusion for a select few is a good enough approach

[trail hull]

Also I learned that if got updated to a more recent version of pokemon essential , that means the next update might run smoother

[sand mica]

Skuntank x Grumpig x Aromatisse?

[lean lily]

Totally reasonable. I haven't seen this discussion cross that line, but I've seen very little of this discussion, so.

[outer matrix]

But this is more unlikely

[trail hull]

Maybe

[oblique sigil]

I wasn't expecting it to be bad tbh, but I expected it to have a different feel to it. which I don't really blame the creators of shows that have had that happen over time, since its really hard to keep a consistent vibe tbh

[ebon glacier]

:o looks like I got 2 days to create a masterpiece

[white meadow]

Wasnt the reason he didnt update that the game breaks

[sterile spoke]

Let's say the new max ends up being 450 (purely speculation); That'd mean there are 202,500 fusion possibilities, plus the current triple fusions. With your suggestion, that number would go up to 91,125,000.

[white meadow]

I win tho

[sterile spoke]

All of the changes like the fusion system would have to be ported over, yes. 😅

[ebon glacier]

what would you pick if you win the contest?

[feral bear]

I got 91 million problems and they all bruxish

[trail hull]

Lol

[white meadow]

Unsure
Gogoat or Torkoal

[lean lily]

I'm honestly regretting even speaking in this discussion now because the mods seemed to get the impression that I wasn't happy with what we already have, despite me stating the contrary multiple times.

[sterile spoke]

Also, just worth saying that any contest winners choices aren't guaranteed to be in. They'll enter a draw, and one of those will be included. 🙂

[trail hull]

I’m never gonna win a contest so my hope is to the sprite rush

[feral bear]

I think youre good, theres just been an obscene amount of discussion about this lately

[white meadow]

I know

[oblique sigil]

exactly XD I would NOT enjoy that XD. although to be fair, I'm not really a full on spriter. I only really ever make sprites for IF when I have ideas tbh. pixel art in general is what I mainly do

[white meadow]

I was close once

[lean lily]

I appreciate that. Still gonna bow out.

[feral bear]

I was ROBBED by sharpedo/lickitung in the last contest

[sand mica]

There's no way the new max is only going to be 450, the dynamic database will make all Pokémon eventually in the game.

[sterile spoke]

If it does, that won't be for a very, very long time. I was referring specifically to this update. 🙂

[white meadow]

I think he means in the new update

[outer matrix]

On every contest, it seems like I'm near 30-35th place on the spreadsheets

[sterile spoke]

That's pretty good! 😄

[feral bear]

I debuted at 51 smh

[white meadow]

I always get pretty diffrent places
But in my first I ever joined I was like 5-6

If I remember corectly

[sterile spoke]

That's solid for a debut, honestly. 😄

If it were the old contests and we only got 51 entries, then it'd be more worrisome. 😛

[sand mica]

I haven't even tried spriting anything for this game. The most I did was a few fusions in 2010 or so. When they were just called sprites.

[outer matrix]

Then again, I treat my placements in contests as a way to improve the next time

[white meadow]

I also have ideas for onr of my other 2 additions

[white meadow]

Btw @ebon glacier seems like you dont like them
What would you vote in

[spice sage]

No chance lol

[sand mica]

I'm sure it can have all 800 Pokémon in the game.

[inland jewel]

Or I cannot wait to see what Pokémon makes it into the contest raffle

[prime dust]

you say all, but anything past Gen 7 just isn't really viable

[sand mica]

The whole point of the dynamic database is to not load all data at once. So all Pokémon up to generation seven is viable.

[inland jewel]

To be fair the current version that IF uses of essentials doesn’t have the data for anything past gen 7

[prime dust]

exactly

[inland jewel]

So if someone wanted to take the time to make that in the version that frogman uses then maybe they could

[prime dust]

i don't know code in any capacity... so the eliminates me

[mystic crystal]

I mean, regardless of if it's even possible to cram all the pokémon in the game, you'd also have to program where they'd be encountered in-game, add new trainers etc... it's a lot of work to add each pokémon in, so I don't think there's a chance we'll get anywhere near all the pokémon

[keen gorge]

I just want Druddigon

[sand mica]

It would be good to appear in the game too.

[violet pawn]

For that many pokemon to make sense there would probably have to be a new region too, and there is map limit that prevents it, right?

[inland jewel]

Let finish adding the dragon types

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/druddigon-petting-pet-druddigon-pokemon-rough-skin-gif-13024017315206678110

[spice sage]

don't we have enough dragons already?

[sand mica]

But not all of my favorite dragons are in. Druddigon should be in...

[prime dust]

the game is practically at the map limit, but they can add stuff into encounter tables

[inland jewel]

Not enough according to the polls

[keen gorge]

Drudd would just be a really good fusion package

[sand mica]

https://tenor.com/view/druddigon-pokemon-dragontail-spin-rotate-gif-17602823

[spice sage]

I'll nickname the new update Pokemon infinite fusion: Skyrim edition

[drowsy elm]

This, y'all broke the limit for pokemon, now break the map limit

[keen gorge]

Rough Skin, Sheer Force, Mold Breaker, solid stats, cool design, diverse move pool, Dragon typing

[sterile spoke]

Yes, and not enough Fighting-types or Pokémon called Ribombee. 😛

[spice sage]

What's a Ribombee?

[sterile spoke]

[drowsy elm]

I realize I replied to the wrong message

[prime dust]

so it will include giants that can send us to space?

[inland jewel]

For real my only real problem with the reveals so far is no new fighting type

[keen gorge]

Mamoswine can now learn Fly

[sterile spoke]

I can't wait for Broggy and Dorry to be added to IF. 😄

Pretty obscure choices for our first One Piece characters, but still. 😮

[keen gorge]

Solution: delete Goodra, add Kommoo

[inland jewel]

I mean realistically we could just have one giant map that’s just all the new Pokémon

All the new mons on one map

[sterile spoke]

Modern Mode's trying to plop all of the new encounters into the game fairly early and in places that would make sense. 😄

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[sterile spoke]

So keep an eye out for the Modern Mode version that comes with this update. 😉

[sand mica]

I can't wait for Modern Moder!

[mystic crystal]

I don't know whether to play Modern or Classic mode first once this big update comes out, it's exciting

Although as a Spriter I suppose the correct answer is to not play it at all

[drowsy elm]

I'll most likely stick with classic (because I'm boring)

[sterile spoke]

What's your favourite new addition? 🙂

[sand mica]

Oricorio...

[drowsy elm]

Oricorio was so unexpected and now it's my favorite addition

[mystic crystal]

Of the mons currently revealed, Probably either the Snorunt line or Altaria 😄

[loud depot]

Aurorus ugly

[sterile spoke]

Swablu's going to be available extremely early in Modern Mode. 😄

Snorunt might be Mt Moon or Rock Tunnel as a rare encounter, then more common especially in the Seafoam Islands. 🙂

[inland jewel]

It may be but it’s fusions won’t be

[mystic crystal]

Ooh then I guess that decides which mode i'll play

[sand mica]

Aurorus is the definition of pretty to me.

[feral bear]

Sableye BAR NONE

[sterile spoke]

Sableye will be in Mt Moon. 🙂

[feral bear]

Also goodra because it made sll my eureka 7 alt ideas possible

[white meadow]

Same for Noibat probably

[feral bear]

YES EARLYYYY

[sterile spoke]

Noibat's going to be no later than Route 9. 🙂

Maybe Diglett Cave? 😄

[sand mica]

If Skuntank was added right now, where would you put it and Stunky?

[loud depot]

Good riddance to aurorus and I'm glad it didn't come with the actual cool Dino from that generation

Tyrantkino

[sterile spoke]

Probably a night encounter. 🙂

[sterile spoke]

Any need to be so negative? 😮

[white meadow]

Mt moon would work cuz Noibats bst is shit

[sand mica]

In what routes?

[keen gorge]

Cycling Road with the other poison types

[sterile spoke]

Now that I don't know. 😛

Modern Mode is basically a catch 'em all mod in that we want everything to be there decently early. 🙂

[sand mica]

The best mod.

[drowsy elm]

Praying for oricorio in the secret garden

[sullen elbow]

hypothetically where would minior be? Mt. moon?

[sterile spoke]

I think we have Phantump and Venipede in Viridian Forest, Carvanha as an Old Rod encounter, and then I don't know about Trubbish or Oricorio. 😮

[sterile spoke]

Potentially, though Mt Moon is getting pretty densely populated. 😦

[last pecan]

trubbish i believe is a garbage can encounter

[keen gorge]

Fitting

[last pecan]

kinda like rotom with tvs

[sterile spoke]

It is, but we can make it a little less of a hassle. 🙂

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-jump-attack-gif-24628203

[loud depot]

[keen gorge]

Tyrantrum overrated

[prime dust]

nah, leave him there; that's his home

[loud depot]

[keen gorge]

"my pokesona is a fossil trex that is also a dragon aren't I cool"

[loud depot]

Yes t Rex are cool

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-t-rex-going-down-gif-14964095

[loud depot]

Pokesona people are weirdos too

[sterile spoke]

Let's stop this unproductive discourse right now, please. 😅

[loud depot]

Does everything need to be productive

[sterile spoke]

Yes.

[keen gorge]

Carracosta best fossil

[hushed mantle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137892936915361942/1155341135988936714/20230806_225802_2_1.png?ex=65159808&is=65144688&hm=882756e5082a2655f04d10b7b2106564e01c3604e366b793f54ec42bf9311677& anyways I’m posting my list again just pretend minior and blacephalon are replaced by the noibat line

[loud depot]

I dunno what to tell you then, video game isn't something productive

[sterile spoke]

You seem like a rather angry young man. 😅

[loud depot]

Bideo gams peak unproductivity

Which is why they're great

[silent acorn]

That writing unproduces any interest I had understanding it

[loud depot]

Good

[silent acorn]

Which is why it's so bad it's good

[feral bear]

I am manifesting aromatisse with all of my powets

[silent acorn]

I find it funny that the two winners in the sharpedo contest were body fusions with a head fusion 3rd. I guess that shows you can make anything.

[loud depot]

Tier list

S tier:
The actual fossilmon

F tier:
those shitty fake fossilmon from sw/sh

[silent acorn]

I find it dumb that alolan didn't have fossils

[silent acorn]

Too young they say.

[keen gorge]

Spot the person who's been swept by a Dracovish

[feral bear]

Yess omg

My lil fat bih

[loud depot]

Ye
The argument is "Hawaii doesnt have any fossils"
But that didn't matter for the other gens in places

[keen gorge]

Johto didn't have fossils either

[silent acorn]

I dunno. They could have like added some insects or birbs or something recent

[hushed mantle]

WRONG! TRIPLE DRACOVISH FISHIOUS REND ATTACK

[loud depot]

Japan doesn't have a monopoly on all the fossils in the world, Hawaii can have something

[silent acorn]

Not gonna lie... The design leaves a lot to be desire to me in Gen 8

[loud depot]

I don't play competitive

[silent acorn]

Like the concept of whacko pokemon because they were put wrong is fine. But the design itself it's where it falls apart a bit for me

[sullen elbow]

neither did paldea

[hushed mantle]

I wish we get more fossils like the arctos and dracos

[fallen loom]

why is it that all Oricorio fusions are the Sensu one?

[loud depot]

The color palette on them is bad and makes them look like they don't belong as Pokémon dinos is mainly my thing

[silent acorn]

If you mean the put wrong thing yes. If you mean the design no.

[keen gorge]

Just weird to me that people complain about some newer gens not getting fossils but no one complains about gen 2 not having them

[hushed mantle]

There’s fusions of all the oricorios except pa’u

[keen gorge]

Nostalgia is a powerful drug ig

[loud depot]

I don't like that either

All gens
All dinos

[silent acorn]

like this chart shows each possible variation if we had all the pieces. but like... for the most part body anatomy feels like it fell on the leftover list.

[fallen loom]

RIP, I guess no-one likes Hawaiian Pokémon... despite it and Bellossom being a great fusion

[silent acorn]

Like I like the concept but they could have given us this many instead of the weird miss match we got.

Actually Pa'u did get a nice amount of fusions

[sullen elbow]

you really want 16 pokemon dedicated to the gimmick?

[silent acorn]

Not as much as sensu and baile but still doable

[high haven]

Who do guys think will be the last mons to be added?

[silent acorn]

Hey if they are gonna bring up a gimmick they should go all the way not just mid way. I am not gonna applaud them for not going that extra mile

[feral bear]

It will be aromatisse and ribombee

[silent acorn]

Honestly next mon vote I need to get my priorities in order I voted too sparcely and open on this one

[high haven]

Nah it's gotta be volbeat, Illumise, Comfey & Bruxish

[silent acorn]

Gonna make my hitlist of avoids

[hushed mantle]

But if that happens the gimmick would be overwhelming and get boring quickly

[silent acorn]

Eh. May as well not try that gimmick that way again and only have two body and head missmatches

Feels odd how you can't find the rest of the pieces

[balmy bison]

Heyo what's new

[sullen elbow]

yeah they are all too similar to be worth comiting

[feral bear]

I would be super satisfied if the 20 community picks became an annual thing, like the hunger games

[hushed mantle]

Would be funnier if they selected 20 random people and made them choose what pokemon should be next

[silent acorn]

I'll kill ya choice with logic and an analystic review. Full of memes

[feral bear]

Have it be merit based, watch the chaos ensue lol

[high haven]

That would be the only way Volbeat & Illumise get added in

[silent acorn]

Nah I think community is fun for propaganda and stuff

[sullen elbow]

Isn't that the idea, they are mismached because the complete fossil hasnt been found

[silent acorn]

Fully incompetent. Immersive, but it's realistic.

[untold spire]

Wdym body anatomy felt like on the leftover list?

[silent acorn]

One of them has the head backwards

[untold spire]

Ye cause it’s meant to be like that, cause it comes from the real life thing where fully “finished” fossils had the wrong bones for wrong dinosaurs, and sometimes in completely different orientations

[sterile spoke]

We do have a merit system that we use to rank all of our members. 🙂

[feral bear]

sweats profusely

[untold spire]

I’m on the bottom for my failure to not make something sound dirty

[high haven]

Walking Wake & Raging Storm (I think) are Dracovish & Dracozolt but better

[untold spire]

Sure jan

[silent acorn]

Still don't love it honestly. Honestly they should have like grabbed the other two heads to not repeat them like that. Would have been funnier

[sterile spoke]

None of those will be getting into IF, though. 😛

[spice sage]

you guys are trying to kill me

[high haven]

Never said they would

[untold spire]

I thought we already did when Phantump was revealed

We had to crack a few Kiwi’s to make a Ghost tree omelette

[marsh yew]

Just watch us getting Throh and Sawk lol

[silent acorn]

Do it! Do it! Do it!

And we'll give you a free discount for a therapy session.

[naive cobalt]

Do you accept bribes

[silent acorn]

So for next mon vote I am deciding what to exclude. I wanted to support zangoose but it was stuck with seviper, so what should I do? Keep it or remove it?

[untold spire]

I have a single Outback Steakhouse coupon for 50% off a Blooming Onion if bribes work

[spice sage]

depends how much

[silent acorn]

So like I like snakes. I like what zangoose is... But I don't like you have to take them together what to do... Something has to give... Some heads have to roll

Hmmmm. Ok so immediately in the no bin goes marshadow.

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/marshadow-spectrum-gif-20994495

[silent acorn]

Still nah.

[trail hull]

YES

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/helluva-boss-gif-19508616
Same energy

[high haven]

I would say that aside from legendary pokemon, Zangoose & Seviper are the best pokémon that are seperate pokémon but are grouped together. To me every other group of mons are too similar (Sawk & Throh, Volbeat & Illumise, Solrock & Lunatone, ect.) But with Zangoose & Seviper they are intentially so distinct from eachother that getting them means two unique designs.

[silent acorn]

Hmmm

Honestly like liepard... Should I crucified Espurr? I am so uncertain as to whether they count as 2 or 3

[sullen elbow]

forms dont count

[silent acorn]

Hmmm. Yeah you are right about that. How about gameplay what they both bring us that would make them particularly great?

[silent acorn]

I dunno. There were three Sprites as if saying 3 slots or something.

[sullen elbow]

worse guts

[naive cobalt]

What about corviknight and tinkaton

[silent acorn]

Fusing solves that :v

[white meadow]

Imagine Hypnotoad is be like "okay everyone I got one little suprise for you all" when the Update comes ||next gif||

[trail hull]

They weren’t group until gen 9

[naive cobalt]

mawile and sableye

[silent acorn]

Got em.

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/garchomp-gif-26393176

[naive cobalt]

The surprise is that all revealed pokemon aren’t actually getting in

[silk narwhal]

it was a social experiment

[silent acorn]

Ok. So... I do like seviper and zangoose, what would be fair for them? I am saving this info for later

[naive cobalt]

and then they put in the starters instead that originally dominated the vote

[naive cobalt]

hypno toad reacted it’s confirmed

[silk narwhal]

holy shit i didn't even realize lmao

hey Toad, are we getting a new playtest update?

[white meadow]

Pokemon infinite fusion 3d and knuckles

[clever atlas]

Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series

[marble meadow]

i see i have some ideas when the update with all new mons comes out before october31st if not i still have that one horror/creepypasta run im about to do at halloween

[high haven]

Well Zangoose has Immunity so they can make non Steel/Poison type pokémon immune to being poisoned. As for Seviper I would say moves like belch, haze, poison tail and more can be used alongside stronger mons can give it an edge. Not to mention both Zangoose & Seviper have really good designs like using Zangoose's original White|Red|Purple colour scheme and Seviper's Black|Red|Purple|Gold colour scheme as well as their own design principles like scars, personality and claws/fangs/blades

[marble meadow]

for my new mons list i have sabyleye altaria sharpedo and goodra run

[silent acorn]

Hmmmm.... I am feeling a 2. Anything else? Perhaps a 3.

[marble meadow]

when it comes to grass type mons my fav are nocturne shiftry and ludiccollo

[high haven]

I don't have any examples for Zangoose fusions, but I have made a couple Seviper fusions during the vote with these being my favorites

[marble meadow]

but the type i like to use are ghost normal and dark

[white meadow]

I think you meant Cacturn

[marble meadow]

yeah

[silent acorn]

Between picking shiftry and ludicolo for fusions the choices are very hard

[marble meadow]

i can,t remember the english names and its hard to type them right

[marsh yew]

Ludicolo x Shiftry

Dancing sombrero tengu

[silent acorn]

Each take like 3 slots... I dont know which gives the most in terms of potential

[marsh yew]

Croagunk and Toxicroak would be quite neat ngl, been giving them a look and they are interesting alright

[silent acorn]

I could give them both 3, but then I end up with the situation where they either both gets in or the one I like a bit less gets in

[marble meadow]

oh wait i forgot maractus is a thing i like this mon too

[marsh yew]

Lilligant would be great, mostly because Whimsicott is already in, and it is just 2 stages

[silent acorn]

So like there is this thing with dark pokemon. So I could give both cacturne a 3 and then shiftry a 2 maybe.

[marsh yew]

Solgaleo and Lunala without Cosmog and Cosmoem would work IMO

[silent acorn]

Granted they would. Cosmog and Cosmoem kept the same are mostly a hindrance. Like it would be sweet if they had a basic moveset atleast but no they dont

I like that cosmog makes the pokemon space matter and them Cosmoem armored

[marsh yew]

I can never remember that Xerneas and Yveltal have the exact same stats, AND a distribution that is pretty much "Kyurem, but with some bits here and there to bring the total from 660 to 680"...

[marble meadow]

if shelmet and Karrablast would get added how would they evolve

[trail hull]

Link cable

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-defence-escavalier-escavalier-uses-iron-defence-gif-24340606

[untold spire]

Could perhaps be like the way Mantyke evolves

[marble meadow]

yeah and i like those fusion wich gives mons armour or weapons and with escavalier the get both i saw a nice nidoking escavalier fusion art it had a knight helmet and wields two lances

[mint grotto]

im pictureing the excavalior and lucario fusion looking like an authorian knight

[stone cliff]

I know we already have some good armor mons but being that I fucking love armor mons I wouldn't mind Escavalier

[mossy finch]

Yes!!!!

[finite thistle]

Dang, these look real cool. Though I'm also really excited for Zangoose, Toxic Boost on more Pokemon is always a treat

[restive arrow]

hot take: use metal coat on karrablast to get escavalier, and reaper cloth on shelmet to get accelgor

wait
or just the linking cord

[white meadow]

Or level up

[neat hemlock]

Neat we getting tyrunt

[neat hemlock]

The real fusion mon

[finite thistle]

I think one of the cool things about Infinite fusion is that most special evolutions have multiple ways to evolve. You can either use the special technique like leveling up Shelmet with Karrablast in this case or you could wait until level 40 where they'd just evolve

[ebon glacier]

Torkoal is good but gogoat? I would pick zygrade or meloetta

[finite thistle]

Gogoat would make for a great Pyukumuku partner thanks to that high HP. Mind you, I'd love to see Meloetta, but I'd imagine having every fusion being able to form change mid battle would be tricky

[white meadow]

whats the problem with gogoat

[ebon glacier]

Funny, I think there’s just better options

The body structure is really meh

[white meadow]

I mean its a goat
Thats like saying a bear or horse mon has a meh body structure

Oh btw here is the old Gogoat Propaganda

[stone cliff]

I think Gogoat is fine, not a favorite of mine but I don't think we have a goat yet?

[white meadow]

Gogoat ie the only goat in Pokemon

[stone cliff]

Huh, I guess you're right. That's kinda interesting

[finite thistle]

I've always been more interested in the mechanical parts of a Pokemon and Gogoat has a few very interesting traits that'll make it interesting to use

[white meadow]

Like battle wise?

[finite thistle]

Though, one of those traits is unfortunately not super well realized without terrain setting abilities

[white meadow]

But atleast a imunity with a ability

[ebon glacier]

Cobalion

[white meadow]

Cobalion isnt a goat

[finite thistle]

Man gets Milk Drink and a nice HP stat, which is cool considering how well Grass fuses with a number of types

[ebon glacier]

Then what is it?

[acoustic locust]

it's a cringe

[stone cliff]

Idk what it is about the swords of justice but I just find them uninteresting

[neat hemlock]

Milk drink gotta get added to spinda

New move: Twisted Milk.

[silk narwhal]

It might sound insane but i think the future paradoxes of the swords of justice are so much better than the originals

Which is weird, since all other future paradoxes are much worse than their original counterparts

[neat hemlock]

I feel like origin vs paradox should be mode swaps

[white meadow]

Also horn leech and pretty solid coverage

[white meadow]

More like a Antelope

Btw if we get the Zebra pokemon and fuse it with Girafarig we have a Okapi

[finite thistle]

If we get Zebstrika in this game I am immidiately fusing it with Rapidash to give it the evolution it should've always had

I just want a Fire/Electric horse, IDC who gets it

[stone lodge]

how many pokemon are left to reveal?

[finite thistle]

Also, i just noticed the Aurorus fusion and it looks really good. So does the Eternatus fusion though there ain't no way we're getting a gen 8 Pokemon any time soon I guess

[white meadow]

Thanks I made the eternagoat

[finite thistle]

Eterna as a prefix sounds very funny actually

[frank oxide]

would 5 bucks be good

[golden lintel]

Eternadoof

[frank oxide]

im losing hope for dhelmise

[white meadow]

You still have hope?

My hopes for him and golisopod are gone

[inland jewel]

its 4 slots left

Saturday is almost here, its only 3 days away

[frank oxide]

technically

dhelmise can still get in

[frank oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/cinna-speech-bubble-cinna-moment-just-a-week-away-gif-26094614

[cinder oasis]

Never back down never what?

[frank oxide]

NEVER GIVE UP

https://tenor.com/view/nick-eh-30-never-back-down-never-give-up-gif-15938629783250590873

[cinder oasis]

Exactly

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-roll-rick-ashley-never-gonna-give-you-up-gif-22113173

[frank oxide]

name one pkemon

[silent acorn]

Kingler

If you have kingler then fuse it with grumpig you get Kingpig neat huh?

[white meadow]

Kingpin fusion real

[loud sorrel]

That’s cause of slow mode
They have a thing on this channel where posting messages has a cooldown
If you try to post again while in cooldown mode it rumbles the screen

[silent acorn]

Its an inconvenience so the mods can feed on our frustration

Such as writing the name of the fusion of Goodra/Muk.

[white meadow]

mudra

oh wait nvm

just name it goku 👍

[silent acorn]

Failed minus 10 social credit

Nah but seriously it seems it's an auto thing where basically the system finds out the word even if you weren't trying.

I didnt know it was a bad one but now I do, so now I shall perform evil acts with this knowledge

I know that Xerneas fusion suffixes would be like Xer- for head and -neas for body right? What about Yveltal?

Would yvel- be the suffix to head and -tal to body suffixes?

So... If you fuse Fraxure with Yveltal body do you get... Fraxtal?

[robust geyser]

Can't wait for the bruxish reveal

[silent acorn]

Bruxpig. Hehehe

[robust geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/justin-fish-uk-fish-teeth-fish-justin-discord-justin-fish-pokemon-gif-22340848

[silent acorn]

Bruxzard, Bruxdra, Grooish, Brixoise, Blastish.

[sullen elbow]

oddish

[robust geyser]

you may not accept it, but this is what the ideal male body looks like

[silent acorn]

OK let me do something you all are gonna hate, I am grab your mons and fuse them with bruxish for names

[white meadow]

hello grab your mons and fuse them with bruxish for names, im bren

[marsh yew]

So Bruxish x Relicanth would be an actual hag fish?

[silent acorn]

Bruxanth and Relicish

If Reli-
Then that would be reliish

Ok let me mess Dhelmise
Bruxmise pretty neat

OK this is funny: Dhelish

[sullen elbow]

minior + oddish/bruxish= minish

[sullen elbow]

oddish would work better for the reference maybe

[silent acorn]

If you fuse Serperior
Bruxperior or Bruxerior depending both awesome.

Serpish or Serpeish would be both funny lol

If people want kommo-o they have to suffer because of
Bruxmo-o. It was the brux it was always MO.
Komish. I dont know whether to laugh or awe at this name.

Ok next victim Marshadow will fall.

Bruxadow: oh yes. My favorite way to pronounce darkness. Xadow.

Marshish: not quite from mars innit?

Ok here is a challenge. Make 500 unique Sprites for different pokemon for fusions with marshadow, not duplicates or alts, just Sprites of pokemon and I'll give marshadow a 3 without blinking. How about it?

Or I mean whoever reaches 200 unique Sprites of the voting candidates and I'll vote theirs without doubt.

[white meadow]

im gonna give marshadow a 3 too!

i can totally change my votes!

[silent acorn]

I mean as long as there is variety by then I don't see why not, y'know?

Since I am posting this here today there is time until next year or next mon vote to do it! I'll change my votes for you.

[frank oxide]

yooo cristata acceped minecraftdog

[sand mica]

https://tenor.com/view/swoobat-bat-flying-pokemon-anime-gif-6315797064876754590

[silent acorn]

Hey hang on a second. Isn't it usually impossible to add something of a mon not in the game?

To like make a request with one of the uncorfimed mons?

[flat herald]

Ik how much of a hot shart Gen 9 was at launch, but imagine Armarouge being a new mon option. Humanoids have some great fusion material at hand, with some great ideas. Totally not me pitching this so I can see someone make sprite art of Soul of Cinder

[cosmic thunder]

Wondering, does the current version of the game include the mons from the "expansion"?

[frozen oyster]

I don't get the appeal of Armarouge and ceruledge tbh. That said, I like Slurpuff, drampa and diggersby so I don't think I have much room to cast stones lmao

[flat herald]

No judgement casted on my end. I just wanted sum Dark Souls rep. Armarouge/Ceruledge aren't close to my favorite mons either, but the fusions possible would be quite great.

Crustle gang

[white meadow]

there are no added pokemon yet, they only got confirmed

[finite thistle]

Lol, I do too. Slurpuff is my second favorite dessert Pokemon next to Appletun and Drampa is just great

[inner night]

hypnotoad could troll everyone by writing a sentence in braille

[frozen oyster]

Appletun was such an unexpected pokemon but delightful. Friend shaped apple dragon

[silent acorn]

Hypno could do all cryptography alongside reaction alongside puzzle. Mygod the toad is gonna make us beg for the last one.

[spice sage]

⠠⠊⠀⠺⠳⠇⠙⠀⠝⠑⠧⠻⠀⠙⠕⠀⠎⠥⠡⠀⠁⠀⠹⠊⠝⠛

[inner night]

But you would

[high haven]

I see what you did there

[ebon glacier]

oh shit, hint to the next mon

[prime dust]

its gibberish

[ebon glacier]

nah, no way

[hushed mantle]

He w|Id nev} do su* a ?ing

[ebon glacier]

I wild never do sue asking

[spice sage]

The auto converter failed me

[prime dust]

lol

i think it is supposed to be I would never do such a thing

[ebon glacier]

you solved the puzzle

[pale flame]

No way is that the frog being... ACTIVE IN THE SERVER???

Unheard of.

[silent acorn]

No no, I think he said "I will never do sus a thing"

[tribal peak]

I... I am legitimately upset that we didn't get the sand guys

[spice sage]

nah

[pale flame]

Pensive emoji

[prime dust]

Amoongus confirmed

[toxic dock]

hypnotoad secretly confirmed to be in the game

[ebon glacier]

he is in the game

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/tipsy-frog-pokemon-politoed-gif-14299396

[mystic rivet]

Well at least Hyptoad

[finite thistle]

He has come to rain on your metagame

[lofty spindle]

The frog behind the slaughter.

Me holding up a picture of Ribombee:

It's been so long...

[lavish wadi]

[silent acorn]

I ponder. Should I drop the not bee or the not mantis?

You know ribombees biggest issue is a lot of bug pokemon issue of being smol

Like ribombee head for fusions would be great but like the body would mostly stick to pixie stuff wouldn't it?

While lurantis is both good head and body. So I wonder about that.

This is the hunger games so only one gets in with votes the other seats backstage

[finite thistle]

Lurantis's head on a more plant-like body would be very fitting

Never liked the legs

[prime dust]

pants

[finite thistle]

Yeah, the pants feel a bit cringe

Lurantis also has Contrary, which is something that we really don't have great targets for as of yet

Ooh, it also has good mixed offensive stats too

If we do get Lurantis in, then I'm totally fusing it with a Typhlosion and teaching it V-create

[prime dust]

i feel like either way it'd be an issue unless the mon is small

so maybe for baby mons it might be good...but otherwise it just would end up weird

[silent acorn]

Infernape close combat negative stat changes meaning defensive buffs

Although malamar gets it directly rather than lurantis having it as an HA

The funny this is that chuckle has contrary

Have I mentioned how Ribombee has honey gather? One of the worst abilities a pokemon can have?

Honestly leafguard is more handy than honey gather. But not more useful than Shield Dust. They both have trade offs

[prime dust]

i feel like abilities are secondary considerations

the biggest thing is always going to be "how well can this be utilized in a fusion"

Riombee is kind of bottom barrel because outside of baby mons; its the smallest mon

[silent acorn]

Hmmmm. Ok so maybe that one should get like what? 1 or 0?

[covert pumice]

I mean honestly I'd prefer Malamar if only because it adds another dark type into the game.

[rancid lily]

My only hope now is that spheal gets in, thats all I need in life at this point

[silent acorn]

Well yeah but I am discriminating and deciding stuff now for later. Malamar is a good one to make eldritch stuff

[rancid lily]

If spheal doesn't get in I will cry

They should give all the mods and sprite managers picks. They work so hard

[silent acorn]

like this is cool

[silent acorn]

Its been confirmed none of them like round chunky pokemon

[glossy goblet]

would it be funny if the last 4 are just two mythics and two legendaries?

[rancid lily]

respectfully shut up

I need this for my ego

[silent acorn]

Irrespectfully I will not

[rancid lily]

imma start my villain arch to get spheal in

[silent acorn]

I would want walrein to make this.

[alpine rune]

Its Regitrio

[rain gust]

NO WAY VICTINI IS IN THE GAME NOW?

[stone cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/what-why-huh-steve-harvey-confused-gif-17449734

[silent acorn]

Victory is blind

[ebon glacier]

that's worse than bruxish

[glossy osprey]

registeel is a megagigachad

[sand osprey]

add blud moon esaloona

[silent acorn]

Regice is a very chill dude

[lusty oxide]

I hope frogman is /j

[north jolt]

Regis are underrated

[lusty oxide]

On the contrary Regis are overrated

[glossy osprey]

reminds me of a certain registeel gigachad meme

that is forever engraved into my mind

[lusty oxide]

What

[rancid lily]

https://tenor.com/view/this-man-crab-react-him-discord-crab-react-gif-26387284

[finite thistle]

Unfortunately, Shuckle's stats are very specialized. Not well suited for offense

[honest tartan]

or defense

[finite thistle]

I mean, Shuckle works the best with another Pokemon with high HP or an ability that can make good use of those defenses

[honest tartan]

230 defenses arent so hot when its protecting TWENTY HP

[finite thistle]

Hence why you fuse him with something like Blissey

[honest tartan]

also its typing also sucks

[honest tartan]

normal/rock is an excellent defensive typing until you run into a fighting type

[lusty oxide]

[atomic furnace]

Why do u think its regi trio?

[finite thistle]

Dang, passing around Rock is rough

[lusty oxide]

Honestly having a X4 weakness to fighting is rough because a LOT of Pokémon learn fighting type moves

[finite thistle]

Rock unfortunately doesn't get great defensive type combos. The only one I can think of is Grass/Rock, which is really good

Gogoat will be real nice

[fleet halo]

I found bug/rock to be alright

But that's in comparison to pure bug and pure rock type, which isn't really a high bar

[finite thistle]

IKR, this is exactly my opinnion

I wish Rock resisted itself

Also, bug type generall don't have good HP

[alpine rune]

braile?

Its a joke, cuz yknow frogman said something in braille, and the way you unlock regi trio is... by reading puzzles in braille

[alpine rune]

Regitrio or Regiquad fusion would have 8x and 16x weakness to fighting

[lusty oxide]

Aka die

[alpine rune]

dies from 1st hit 10 BP triple kick from full hp

[atomic furnace]

I thought its japanese. The dots looks like katagana

[ebon glacier]

[alpine rune]

HOW THE FFFFFU-

Here i am thinking that I'm legally blind

[atomic furnace]

I mean if u look it from far and commecting the dots. Its look like katagana

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-booing-me-im-right-gif-10368876

Honestly if we get regitrio i'd also be happy

even if it's not top 20 in my list

But that's an impossible dream considering theres only 4 slots, 1 if you count the leaks to be true

[ebon glacier]

plz be zygarde or meloetta

[naive cobalt]

1 slot? marshadow is definitely getting in then ‼️

[atomic furnace]

It will be legendary but i dont know which. Its a no brainer if there is no new legendary that will be put in.

[alpine rune]

That would be preferable yes

[atomic furnace]

They put in low stats and medium stats in. And the last 1 was pseudo. So the next 1 will definitely be legendary

[naive cobalt]

the last one was noivern and altaria

[alpine rune]

We havent got a confirmation if pallossand leak was true tho. Honestly people would riot if the doesnt come in... Not me personally, but i know one who does

[glossy osprey]

the next ill be pseudo

[naive cobalt]

surely it wont be a dragon type

[atomic furnace]

Hope not. We already have a lot in the new addition

Even t-rex is a dragon

[naive cobalt]

we really did not need 8 god damn dragons with 3 of them being the exact same type combination and 3 pure dragon

[flat herald]

Pallossand would be 100% dope. I am a ground/steel user so this definitely isn’t bias

[atomic furnace]

Artwise, i want pochi and mighty for its head and body part.

[finite thistle]

Really looking forward to Altaria for better Perish Song access. Both Dragon and flying are very useful typings for Chandelure and Dugtrio

[alpine rune]

I want zygarde to make pokemon MEgazords

[finite thistle]

Zygarde would be good for Glare access. Most other Pokemon with the move don't have the best stats

[atomic furnace]

I m ok if we get zygarde. It have 3 different form so the art will be very creative

[glacial vigil]

I agree we did not need that many dragons, but I don't want to hear anything bad about Altaria D:<

[atomic furnace]

We do lack ice type. So i think regitrio have the highest possibility of getting pick. Even if they lack of votes.

[glacial vigil]

I got one of the ice types I wanted in

The other was Aurorus

[glossy osprey]

I need him

[finite thistle]

Would love to see Aurorus because we don't have a hail setter. Not that that's too great with gen 7's Aurora Veil access

[spice sage]

I was just responding to the guy before who was talking about braille lol. You guys are looking too hard into it

[white meadow]

add the regis so I can put registeel onto klefki and fucking decimate

[atomic furnace]

U are a rare encounter. So anything u say will be put under microscope

[white meadow]

regidraco + noivern (: nothing bad will happen

[alpine rune]

yes... that's the joke

[glossy osprey]

guzzlord + rotom = skibidi toilet

idk why I just thought of that

[lethal roost]

SO I'VE BEEN GONE FOR A COUPLE DAYS AND I COME BACK

AND I'M STILL ALWAYS RIGHT 😎

[thorny ferry]

this won't go unpunished

[latent sage]

I'd be so happy if golisopod got in

[sand mica]

https://tenor.com/view/amaura-ice-dinosaur-pokemon-running-chasing-gif-7713673335067919370

[latent sage]

perish

[sand mica]

https://tenor.com/view/sunflora-sunflower-hyper-beam-pokemon-battle-battle-gif-10266420642380350003

[alpine rune]

i got nothing correct

[lethal roost]

ooof damn

also what'd pyroar do to deserve that? curious

[glossy osprey]

your guzzlord placement got me like

[lethal roost]

i think guzzlord has a thing its just not a thing i want

thats why its not in explicit trash tier

[latent sage]

So how many slots are left or is that it for new pokemon?

[lethal roost]

3 i think

[steep glen]

I thought it was 4

[lethal roost]

possibly more if an evo line overflows a bit, also the contest winners or trenvenant or w/e might help

[alpine rune]

PTSD

[lethal roost]

oh the lion guy. got it

[latent sage]

So once all the new mons are decided the updated game will release when?

[alpine rune]

pretty sure only 4 slots left, 3 are leaks

[tiny seal]

can we get claydol just so we can put 20000 eyeballs on every fusion

[alpine rune]

the sableye become staff pick

[sand mica]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-swoobat-gif-27580265

[steep glen]

The sand castle was a misdirect

[ebon glacier]

biblical accurate fusion

https://tenor.com/view/eyes-gif-25519499

[sand mica]

https://tenor.com/view/swoobat-bat-it's-so-fluffy-happy-bat-chuckling-bat-gif-9416160252714225573

[lethal roost]

i mean sandygast was still in the playtest tbf

i think the misdirection was that we weren't getting sandygast at that exact moment

[steep glen]

I want that Damn anchor

[lethal roost]

or hell maybe dev had a change of heart and we're not getting sand

[ebon glacier]

I like sand

[lethal roost]

goddamn mystery idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[steep glen]

Wonder if we will get more at some point after this

[lethal roost]

i will say that this whole dragon thing makes me think that type balance is not being considered. i would've expected a fighting type by now if it was

[steep glen]

I just want more ice types. but no on seem to have voted for any other than froslass line

If Snom was in we would have another

[ebon glacier]

spheal line is pretty popular

[lethal roost]

still holding out for aurorus, cryogonal/avalugg

[ebon glacier]

man, I want cryogonal so badly, lol

[lethal roost]

wouldnt want both cryo and avalugg sadly

[sand mica]

https://tenor.com/view/amaura-ice-dinosaur-hugging-pokemon-anime-gif-27404824

[ebon glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/cryogonal-whatisthispic-pokemon-heart-locket-my-beloved-gif-15671008797800063476

[steep glen]

I suppose this has the best design of all of them

[mortal egret]

we need more pokewaifus uwu

[steep glen]

but as a gen 4 guy i want my yeti

[mortal egret]

it is difficult to complete a decent team

[sand mica]

So where are they saying Noivern was even confirmed? I didn't see an announcement.

[fleet halo]

Did u not ?

[alpine rune]

???

[fleet halo]

Looks pretty confirmed to me

[sand mica]

Oh wait, it was a double announcement? I thought they only announced Altaria into the game?

[fleet halo]

They announced Altaria and then on the Altaria announcement they asked for 1k more reacts or smth and then after that they announced Noivern

[sand mica]

Can Swoobat be next?

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-swoobat-gif-27580265

[thorny ferry]

SWEEPBAT

[hidden anvil]

I'd like to see another bug or electric type. Or both in one

[inland jewel]

That would only leave Vikavokt for that

[latent sage]

Fuck type balance

[silk furnace]

I just want to see something with snow warning. I'd love to run some hail stuff, but like.

[sharp sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/xerneas-yveltal-legendary-pokemon-aura-trio-pokemon-gif-12199712193062540298

[sharp sphinx]

delibird does have it in this albeit low stats

https://tenor.com/view/shiny-yveltal-gif-5801824

[silk furnace]

Huh, didn't know that.

[finite thistle]

Lol, the Yveltal isn't even shiny

[sharp sphinx]

yeah cause it's cooked

[silk furnace]

I'd still love icecreams though they'd be cool from both a design and gameplay standpoint

[cinder oasis]

It has the second lowest stats just behind Smeargle for not being able to evolve or have anything special

[sharp sphinx]

hence the aside, it's just an option for people who really want something, ad if no others get added

[cinder oasis]

I wouldn't even consider it

[sharp sphinx]

fuse it with a legendary 🤷

that's fine still nice for people to be aware, don't need to ping me for these

[cinder oasis]

That's still gonna have like a 470 bst

[sharp sphinx]

aurorus's refrigerated also synergize really well with noiverns boomburst

[sharp sphinx]

exactly, eg still not absurd